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Speaker 1: I know is because I've and receiving testimonies from hundreds

427
00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:06,680
Speaker 1: and hundreds of people who said I listened to Kevin

428
00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:09,439
Speaker 1: Samuel's and I stayed with my baby's father. I just

429
00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:12,960
Speaker 1: it made me re evaluate my women. I reevaluated my

430
00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:15,840
Speaker 1: my marriage and decided to stay. I myself was through

431
00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:22,760
Speaker 1: with American women, not just black, all American women. Yes,

432
00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:30,840
Speaker 1: the system that we live in is unfair. Truth. Why

433
00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:33,800
Speaker 1: would I get married and then risk half my wealth

434
00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:37,240
Speaker 1: and then have to go through another divorce again? It's

435
00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:40,399
Speaker 1: not worth it. But so so what I'm saying is

436
00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:44,360
Speaker 1: now because of Kevin Samuel's I've gotten engaged and I

437
00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:47,800
Speaker 1: was done. You see, I mean, I'm telling you when

438
00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:50,240
Speaker 1: I was done, I would I had a fifty thousand

439
00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:56,879
Speaker 1: dollars airline bill fifty dollars because I didn't even want

440
00:26:56,920 --> 00:26:58,840
Speaker 1: to be here anymore. I dropped out of the dating

441
00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:01,480
Speaker 1: scene and used in as a nice dating thing. Right.

442
00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:07,240
Speaker 1: But but my whole point is he's giving man, he's

443
00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:19,320
Speaker 1: giving person. He's giving men hope again, men who have options,

444
00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:22,280
Speaker 1: who have the world at their feet, that they're fit,

445
00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:26,240
Speaker 1: beautiful women. What do you call FBI fit beautiful? Is?

446
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:28,359
Speaker 1: I couldn't keep up with these academs if I want,

447
00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:30,399
Speaker 1: But you know what I mean, And so you know,

448
00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:32,280
Speaker 1: I said, I'll give it a shot. I joined this

449
00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:35,080
Speaker 1: mixed Facebook group and next thing you know, he was

450
00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:37,560
Speaker 1: on the Facebook dating same time man. I wasn't on

451
00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:39,639
Speaker 1: the day I was done. But he got him a

452
00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:43,440
Speaker 1: white woman. Absolutely not she she's she's black and black

453
00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:45,719
Speaker 1: as me. You know what I mean. But but bottom

454
00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:47,760
Speaker 1: line is, I'm not the only one this man has

455
00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:51,800
Speaker 1: putting people back together again. You know, he by putting

456
00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:53,879
Speaker 1: other people back together again. And I talked to his

457
00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:56,960
Speaker 1: best friend Jeff, probably like ten times over the past week.

458
00:27:57,320 --> 00:28:00,320
Speaker 1: He was proud of what he did, putting people active.

459
00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:02,760
Speaker 1: And it's not just black people. I got people from

460
00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:05,800
Speaker 1: Australia saying I stayed in my marriage. I got people

461
00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:08,560
Speaker 1: from India calling me saying I got back with my husband.

462
00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:11,120
Speaker 1: I have a better understanding of men now I see

463
00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:14,040
Speaker 1: it from the man's perspective. I'm a young man, He

464
00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:16,399
Speaker 1: told me to get off my button start working eighty

465
00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:18,919
Speaker 1: hours a week if I had to stop waiting around

466
00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:21,320
Speaker 1: and be the best man I can be. He called

467
00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:24,159
Speaker 1: him Henry's men, young men who are a blue collar

468
00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:26,960
Speaker 1: electric and he loved blue collar guys. He said, look,

469
00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:28,840
Speaker 1: you know, white collar guys, y'all ain't nothing. That's the

470
00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:31,879
Speaker 1: blue collar men that make this world keeping. The ladies

471
00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:34,000
Speaker 1: need to stop passing these men up. These are good,

472
00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:36,480
Speaker 1: solid man and you're pass them up because they made

473
00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:41,560
Speaker 1: a lot of money too. And whether you like it

474
00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:43,520
Speaker 1: or not, he was effective. He worked and had he

475
00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:46,600
Speaker 1: been able to continue going more years, he had been

476
00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:49,600
Speaker 1: more effective. But you know, the most high took him.

477
00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:51,680
Speaker 1: It is what it is, and it's left upon us

478
00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:55,000
Speaker 1: to continue his legacy and protect it so that others

479
00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:57,640
Speaker 1: don't come along and malign him because what he did

480
00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:00,840
Speaker 1: that was effective will go away and be diminished. And

481
00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:03,920
Speaker 1: we allow these outsiders who are angry because their feelings

482
00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:06,360
Speaker 1: are hurt. Right, And then so we said, well we

483
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:09,200
Speaker 1: can't listen to him anymore, you see. So this is

484
00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:11,080
Speaker 1: where we are. And on top of that, man, like

485
00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:13,480
Speaker 1: I said earlier at the top of the broadcast, here,

486
00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:16,400
Speaker 1: the man had plans for making hundreds of millions of

487
00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:20,800
Speaker 1: dollars and revitalizing you know what was once Wall Street.

488
00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:23,280
Speaker 1: This man from Oklahoma, he knows very well what happened

489
00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:26,400
Speaker 1: in the Tulsa race riots. You understand what I'm saying.

490
00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:29,160
Speaker 1: What were some of those plans, you guys? O man,

491
00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:31,120
Speaker 1: We went up to New York and look, I don't

492
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:34,120
Speaker 1: just go because people call me. We went to New York.

493
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:36,959
Speaker 1: We went to New York and we met Jose's Anega.

494
00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:41,080
Speaker 1: He's a famous YouTuber. His brother is a lawyer. He

495
00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:43,760
Speaker 1: has his whole family working in a warehouse in Brooklyn,

496
00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:47,720
Speaker 1: multimillion dollar complex that they read. He started off in

497
00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:53,800
Speaker 1: his mother's house in Florida doing YouTube videos, moved forward

498
00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:56,800
Speaker 1: in his college dorm room, did that, and basically what

499
00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:59,480
Speaker 1: he's done, he's been advertising hey, building himself up in

500
00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:02,000
Speaker 1: his popular alreity on YouTube. His brother went to law school,

501
00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:05,360
Speaker 1: he came back, and now they got this complex in

502
00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:08,560
Speaker 1: Brooklyn that they revitalized and they mark it to the

503
00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:11,120
Speaker 1: same people that have been watching them on YouTube for years,

504
00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:14,800
Speaker 1: making tens of millions of dollars a year. And this

505
00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:17,040
Speaker 1: is the same thing Kevin had in mind for us.

506
00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:20,560
Speaker 1: The members of the black YouTube Black Mannisphere. He brought

507
00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:23,520
Speaker 1: me in for infrastructure purposes, and he had two other

508
00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:28,000
Speaker 1: guys engineers, another attorney, and and basically we were gonna

509
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:33,080
Speaker 1: put this together. But you know, he's dead, you know,

510
00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:36,200
Speaker 1: and so nothing's gonna happen. But this is something that

511
00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:39,720
Speaker 1: that could have happened. I mean, you know, so, is

512
00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:42,080
Speaker 1: there anything that you can share with us about his memorial?

513
00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:44,720
Speaker 1: I would prefer not to because this know, there's a

514
00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:46,800
Speaker 1: lot of quacks out there on the internet, you know,

515
00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:48,959
Speaker 1: but I know it's gonna be private, and I just

516
00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:51,080
Speaker 1: want to. I wanted his mom to be able to

517
00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:52,640
Speaker 1: get through this. I want his daughter to be able

518
00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:55,840
Speaker 1: to get through this. Um. You know, they they're very

519
00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:59,040
Speaker 1: they're strong women. I mean they're a good, strong Oklahoma

520
00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:05,080
Speaker 1: raised sisters, you know, and um, you know, I just

521
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:10,880
Speaker 1: I just feel really bad for his mom. I didn't

522
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:14,960
Speaker 1: reach out to them. His best friend, Jeff called hit

523
00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:18,320
Speaker 1: me up on my office line, and you know, I'm

524
00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:20,720
Speaker 1: still sulking in kind of in mourning. He said, I

525
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:23,560
Speaker 1: need help. You know, you got these people calling and

526
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:26,320
Speaker 1: they're trying to talk to his mother and she's frantic

527
00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:29,400
Speaker 1: and the little girl is crying and I'm just trying

528
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:31,040
Speaker 1: to figure out what to do. Is my best friend.

529
00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:33,520
Speaker 1: We never met before, but he talked about you and

530
00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:35,880
Speaker 1: some of his other friends, and so he reached out

531
00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:38,160
Speaker 1: to help me. So, you know, I started making phone calls.

532
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:40,840
Speaker 1: I put the notice out, hey, don't call this woman,

533
00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:43,400
Speaker 1: call me. And some of the people who did call,

534
00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:47,240
Speaker 1: like some of the newspapers. You know, I gave him

535
00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:49,920
Speaker 1: a few choice words, you know, legal words, of course,

536
00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:53,280
Speaker 1: no threats, and UH made him back down, you know,

537
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:55,840
Speaker 1: because they need time to to to breathe. But as

538
00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:58,520
Speaker 1: far as memorial service, the thing you need to understand

539
00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:00,600
Speaker 1: is that Kevin has been returned home to his mother.

540
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:06,920
Speaker 1: Is his worldly assets are with his mother. Everything is

541
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:10,160
Speaker 1: with his mother and his daughter. And what we need

542
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:12,600
Speaker 1: the public to do is just to leave these people alone.

543
00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:15,160
Speaker 1: You can argue with Kevin about the merit to what

544
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:18,640
Speaker 1: he said, He would argue to to death. He believed

545
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:21,240
Speaker 1: in what he was doing. But leave this woman alone.

546
00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:24,840
Speaker 1: Let this old woman who had one son who died,

547
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:29,800
Speaker 1: leave her alone. Who wants to die, who wants their

548
00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:33,120
Speaker 1: children to die before them? Put yourself and out. You

549
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:35,400
Speaker 1: say you love black women, all these black women's I

550
00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:37,840
Speaker 1: love black women. Why are you doing this black woman

551
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:40,000
Speaker 1: like that? Because you don't know what your son is

552
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:42,959
Speaker 1: gonna do. You don't know what you don't know what

553
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:45,520
Speaker 1: what just and and Kevin didn't have a criminal record.

554
00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:48,760
Speaker 1: Why we don't have the same energy for Dylan Ruf.

555
00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:52,480
Speaker 1: We don't even know who Dalan Ruf is anymore. Why

556
00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:54,480
Speaker 1: we don't have the same roof for that boy who

557
00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:57,040
Speaker 1: shot that man who shot Trayvon Martin? Where is that

558
00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:59,960
Speaker 1: energy for this? You're attacking this black man who didn't

559
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:01,880
Speaker 1: often but love you guys enough to scream and how

560
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:04,920
Speaker 1: let you and say getting married? Lawyer expectation, that's what

561
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:07,440
Speaker 1: I want to know. That's that's I hope will be

562
00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:13,240
Speaker 1: his legacy. Maybe not lawyer expected, have realistic what's the difference,

563
00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:16,680
Speaker 1: But that's that's I don't want to you know, that's

564
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:21,960
Speaker 1: it part right there that you shared. Everybody won't get

565
00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:26,520
Speaker 1: the luxury of knowing that part where this is all

566
00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:29,000
Speaker 1: premises from, like where it all started from, you know,

567
00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:33,280
Speaker 1: and listening to you speak about it, I think can

568
00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:38,520
Speaker 1: impact the way people receive him because he definitely didn't

569
00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:42,440
Speaker 1: expel or expose that part of him, you know, because

570
00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:46,440
Speaker 1: in listening to you and talking about like his relationship issues.

571
00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:48,560
Speaker 1: It sounds to me like there's a place of hurt

572
00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:51,880
Speaker 1: where a lot of this is could be coming from

573
00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:55,040
Speaker 1: um where the intent is good. He's heard just like Willie,

574
00:33:56,400 --> 00:34:01,000
Speaker 1: he sees our culture agreement, I mean, And so his

575
00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:05,000
Speaker 1: voice is used in a way to help to be

576
00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:09,359
Speaker 1: expressive and to motivate women to do better based off

577
00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:12,759
Speaker 1: of his hurt and his past and what he's seen

578
00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:15,239
Speaker 1: and what he's experienced. But I don't think a lot

579
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:18,880
Speaker 1: of people will have no, not necessarily you don't. But

580
00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:21,640
Speaker 1: I based on what I'm hearing, I'm only speaking off

581
00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:24,400
Speaker 1: of what I just I'm speaking from what it sounds like,

582
00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:26,399
Speaker 1: you know, and it makes it makes sense, It makes

583
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:29,279
Speaker 1: it makes sense. We won't get the same all of

584
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:33,000
Speaker 1: all Black Americans. That's why he had the man advocated

585
00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:36,759
Speaker 1: therapy so much. All Black Americans are dealing with some

586
00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:39,800
Speaker 1: sort of trauma degree, especially growing up in the past

587
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:42,719
Speaker 1: fifty or sixty years. Most of these men have not

588
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:45,359
Speaker 1: had their fathers and not had decent men around them

589
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:46,920
Speaker 1: to teach them how to deal with their emotions. They

590
00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:50,160
Speaker 1: don't know anything about themselves, much less a woman. And

591
00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:52,600
Speaker 1: so you know, the man said get therapy. But you know, like,

592
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:54,759
Speaker 1: here's a crazy thing, and I'm I'm gonna say this.

593
00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:58,400
Speaker 1: It seems like people from other races and ethnicities they

594
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:01,400
Speaker 1: understood him better than his own. Hmm. That's what I

595
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:04,440
Speaker 1: find And that was probably one of the most disturbing

596
00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:07,919
Speaker 1: things to him. But you have to understand that there

597
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:12,680
Speaker 1: was no explanation. It was just coming out the gate um,

598
00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:16,200
Speaker 1: you know, reacting to women and telling women this in

599
00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:21,200
Speaker 1: an aggressive way. You used. You can't talk about a

600
00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:23,400
Speaker 1: lot of his own personal experience, so it's hard to

601
00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:26,080
Speaker 1: really give someone the benefit of the doubt that they're

602
00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:28,840
Speaker 1: intend is good or just listen to what you got

603
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:31,440
Speaker 1: to say. Yeah, and most people did. I would say

604
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:34,640
Speaker 1: they did listen. But when it's offensive sometimes and but

605
00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:38,239
Speaker 1: it's coming from a good place. Sometimes having that background

606
00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:41,440
Speaker 1: is helpful because people listen with different years, it's not

607
00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:43,680
Speaker 1: so offensive. At this point, you can say the exact

608
00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:46,200
Speaker 1: same thing. But because I know where you're coming from,

609
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:48,520
Speaker 1: it's it's really not going to bother. So let me

610
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:54,160
Speaker 1: ask you a question. I educated women right with with

611
00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:57,520
Speaker 1: with what was the highest level education you've achieved? I

612
00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:00,520
Speaker 1: have a bachelor Okay, so you've had professed that you

613
00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:06,160
Speaker 1: probably didn't like right. You might not have liked that.

614
00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:09,040
Speaker 1: I had plenty of professors I didn't like. I didn't

615
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:11,360
Speaker 1: like their tone, I didn't like the way they came across.

616
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:14,120
Speaker 1: They might have been had a bad day, they might

617
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:16,799
Speaker 1: be racist. Whatever. I go in front of judges all

618
00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:19,400
Speaker 1: the time and I don't like what they say. But

619
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:21,960
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter because I'm a grown up and I

620
00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:24,880
Speaker 1: understand that I have to separate the bones from the

621
00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:27,600
Speaker 1: meat and take and do what I No. It's not

622
00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:30,000
Speaker 1: just it's about being an adult, and it's about having

623
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:33,239
Speaker 1: an adult conversation, and so we have to be more mature.

624
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:37,399
Speaker 1: So it's not just to accept that right because that's

625
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:39,439
Speaker 1: how you pay your bills. I don't. I could quit.

626
00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:42,040
Speaker 1: You could, but it would impact your life significantly. I

627
00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:43,839
Speaker 1: could if it meant that much to me, I could.

628
00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:46,440
Speaker 1: But if it's helping me achieve my goal, and that's

629
00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:49,800
Speaker 1: what he was trying to you, it's not just about

630
00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:53,280
Speaker 1: that because they are police officers. The police officers, it's

631
00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:55,880
Speaker 1: just like being a business for yourself. There are police

632
00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:57,640
Speaker 1: officers that will pull you over on the side of

633
00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:01,040
Speaker 1: the road and they will purposely try to prove, and

634
00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:02,759
Speaker 1: what we as black men of learning is that we

635
00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:05,399
Speaker 1: can't respond to otherwise we might get shot or billy

636
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:08,279
Speaker 1: club At some point. You have to just listen and

637
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:11,800
Speaker 1: follow instruction. I get that, But we're talking about a

638
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:15,719
Speaker 1: man trying to get married personality that you're talking You

639
00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:18,600
Speaker 1: call him for advice, right, I get that, that's part.

640
00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:25,360
Speaker 1: I get that you and he and you don't like

641
00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:28,640
Speaker 1: the way he's giving you that advice. What I'm saying,

642
00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:32,000
Speaker 1: when people know where it's coming from, it's easier to hear.

643
00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:39,200
Speaker 1: Are always going to hit everybody differently, and again they're

644
00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:42,360
Speaker 1: not for everybody. But the good thing is his messages

645
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:44,440
Speaker 1: are still there. So for those of us that didn't

646
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:47,600
Speaker 1: hear everything, we can go back and listen, you know.

647
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:51,520
Speaker 1: But again, it started these conversations, which for a man

648
00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:54,000
Speaker 1: that says this was of such importance to him and

649
00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:56,560
Speaker 1: he was pushing this movement and there was this bigger picture,

650
00:37:56,960 --> 00:37:58,840
Speaker 1: then it's still there for us to go back and

651
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:03,080
Speaker 1: revisit these conversations. And so I can have different conversations

652
00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:05,160
Speaker 1: with women when they are like, oh I don't like him,

653
00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:08,120
Speaker 1: I can I can bring something to that conversation. Now

654
00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:11,120
Speaker 1: that's a little more valuable, and and that's what these

655
00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:15,120
Speaker 1: conversations can do is help us really press his intent

656
00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:19,319
Speaker 1: and really kind of stabilize how women are thinking about him,

657
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:22,760
Speaker 1: because I think it's it's it's being perceived very negative

658
00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:27,239
Speaker 1: and it doesn't have to be. Podcast will be right

659
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:37,080
Speaker 1: back after. I want to ask a quick question. So

660
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:39,440
Speaker 1: you say, you listen to Kevin, right, and you've got

661
00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:42,040
Speaker 1: some out of it, right, So what is it that

662
00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:45,120
Speaker 1: Kevin Sammus least for all the one they said they listened,

663
00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:48,920
Speaker 1: What did he say that you will apply to your

664
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:53,000
Speaker 1: life now dating life? And I don't have an answer

665
00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:55,360
Speaker 1: for you. I just said that I didn't disagree with

666
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:57,640
Speaker 1: a lot of things that he said. So you don't

667
00:38:57,719 --> 00:39:00,879
Speaker 1: learn anything from what he said. That's nothing that you learn.

668
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:03,719
Speaker 1: Where you could say, I will now apply this, or

669
00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:06,000
Speaker 1: I would when I look at it man, or I'll

670
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:10,480
Speaker 1: you know this will helped me through this, I'm already

671
00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:13,839
Speaker 1: applying it, I would say, I'm I'm already applying those

672
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:20,200
Speaker 1: things right, just in general, even from what I said earlier.

673
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:24,200
Speaker 1: As far as you know, you you date, who you're among,

674
00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:31,200
Speaker 1: you know, So example, she she may not know all

675
00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:33,600
Speaker 1: the people she's not in my circle. She's not around

676
00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:36,279
Speaker 1: the people that I know, so she can we can

677
00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:39,600
Speaker 1: have the same job, we can both be tens, you

678
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:43,400
Speaker 1: know whatever. But because we're not in the same circles,

679
00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:47,680
Speaker 1: she might date, you know, somebody else, and I might

680
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:50,040
Speaker 1: date you know, like, the people that we date are

681
00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:53,040
Speaker 1: going to be different. I'm aware of that. I know that,

682
00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:57,359
Speaker 1: and I so I'm going to carry myself a certain

683
00:39:57,400 --> 00:39:59,560
Speaker 1: type of way, and I'm going to expect a certain

684
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:03,000
Speaker 1: type of sing I've never said you was like a number. No,

685
00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:05,560
Speaker 1: I never said I gotta have somebody that's making you

686
00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:09,080
Speaker 1: know this million dollars, but you definitely have to match

687
00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:11,960
Speaker 1: me or more. Period. That's a number. I think you

688
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:13,719
Speaker 1: should be real. I think you should if you learned

689
00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:16,480
Speaker 1: anything from him, you should live in that truth. That

690
00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:20,040
Speaker 1: is my trip and saying that you just you don't

691
00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:22,040
Speaker 1: have to make a certain number, but you require a

692
00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:25,960
Speaker 1: certain type of lifestyle. You've already established I have a

693
00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:28,719
Speaker 1: great lifestyle. I don't need that. That's that's not what

694
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:37,920
Speaker 1: I need to accomplish. When you say fial, match doesn't

695
00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:41,000
Speaker 1: exactly match does not have to be all about money.

696
00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:55,760
Speaker 1: So she her lifestyle because you're so so saying keeping

697
00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:58,120
Speaker 1: this because this is one of the things that my

698
00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:00,920
Speaker 1: platform talks about, is that with a lot of themselves

699
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:03,040
Speaker 1: every day, and that's why you can't get where you

700
00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:07,120
Speaker 1: need to get. If you date a guy, you should

701
00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:10,480
Speaker 1: have some number in place. And listen, I got sisters

702
00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:12,920
Speaker 1: and I tell them all the time, you should have

703
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:16,360
Speaker 1: a number in place because that allows you to know

704
00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:19,360
Speaker 1: what what you know, where you need to be. It

705
00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:22,279
Speaker 1: focuses what you where you need to go. And if

706
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:24,279
Speaker 1: you're saying, well, I don't have to have a guy

707
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:27,480
Speaker 1: make more money than less, he could make less than

708
00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:30,080
Speaker 1: me because he asked you said, he has made as

709
00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:32,160
Speaker 1: much as you are more than she chimed in with

710
00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:35,840
Speaker 1: a good girl. They mean, I don't know how men

711
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:44,520
Speaker 1: call hypergamy. Hypergam that's the term all that's when women's

712
00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:46,919
Speaker 1: when women date up as opposed to down. You would

713
00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:50,040
Speaker 1: not as a woman, we would not as a human race,

714
00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:53,239
Speaker 1: have survived that women picked men who were lower than

715
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:56,040
Speaker 1: them in status and wealth and the ability to provide

716
00:41:56,360 --> 00:42:00,040
Speaker 1: your designed to date up accepted. If you didn't, we

717
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:01,719
Speaker 1: would have died off a matter of fact, in the

718
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:04,440
Speaker 1: Black community. And I think if Kevin was here, he

719
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:07,680
Speaker 1: would agree with we need more hypergamy. We need women

720
00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:09,960
Speaker 1: to choose to date up as opposed to down. But

721
00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:17,359
Speaker 1: but the problem, the problem is, the problem is if

722
00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:21,440
Speaker 1: you're average, right, or if you're a woman who and

723
00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:24,520
Speaker 1: this is where this is where the controversy came in,

724
00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:26,840
Speaker 1: Like this is it. This is the problem. The crux

725
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:30,239
Speaker 1: of the problem is no woman has a problem with hypergamy.

726
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:32,200
Speaker 1: They have a problem when they're locked out of the

727
00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:36,160
Speaker 1: top level of men because they have children outside of wedlock,

728
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:40,120
Speaker 1: because they have weight issues, because they have made certain

729
00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:42,520
Speaker 1: decisions in their life that have caused for them to

730
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:45,479
Speaker 1: finally be able to date. But there past a certain age.

731
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:47,800
Speaker 1: That's the problem. The women who have locked out of

732
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:49,759
Speaker 1: that high level of men are have a problem with it.

733
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:53,040
Speaker 1: So he's saying, look, don't believe what these feminists told you.

734
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:56,920
Speaker 1: You're gonna find you a husband your years from eighteen

735
00:42:57,000 --> 00:42:58,680
Speaker 1: to twenty two. You need to be finding the best

736
00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:01,799
Speaker 1: man you can possibly find. Don't wait till you thirty five.

737
00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:04,440
Speaker 1: And you got it with a PhD. You got a PhD.

738
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:09,960
Speaker 1: And now but that's my issue though, because if you

739
00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:12,040
Speaker 1: don't be honest with yourself, I think one of the

740
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:14,440
Speaker 1: probably want to get married and I think the biggest

741
00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:16,719
Speaker 1: problem with women that they're not honest with them. Says

742
00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:20,960
Speaker 1: the woman that you're speaking of, that thirty PhD and

743
00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:23,839
Speaker 1: the dog right if she wants to get married, are

744
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:26,960
Speaker 1: her choicest slimmer because of all those things that she had.

745
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:29,439
Speaker 1: I don't think. I think what I think what Kevin

746
00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:33,640
Speaker 1: was pointing out is doesn't really help qustions lest in

747
00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:37,080
Speaker 1: the sexual marketplace about about don't don't If a man

748
00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:39,959
Speaker 1: had a PhD and that translated to him making more money,

749
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:43,120
Speaker 1: that probably would help him, But as far as the woman,

750
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:46,080
Speaker 1: it doesn't really help. You don't believe these lies the

751
00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:51,000
Speaker 1: society has told you you being fit, feminine, sweet, beautiful,

752
00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:54,920
Speaker 1: cooperative and intelligent and having a PhD. Oh, that's awesome

753
00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:57,520
Speaker 1: if if you're at a certain age. But if you're

754
00:43:57,560 --> 00:44:00,640
Speaker 1: fifty with a PhD and you're not get treated like

755
00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:03,920
Speaker 1: and all those other things, you know, well, if you're

756
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:06,080
Speaker 1: fifty and you're with a PhD, you're not gonna get

757
00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:08,640
Speaker 1: treated like and you're making a hundred fifty thousand dollars

758
00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:10,359
Speaker 1: a year, you're not gonna get treated like a man

759
00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:16,799
Speaker 1: who's fifty PhD making dollars a year. This doesn't matter

760
00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:20,400
Speaker 1: to you. Then, Um, Let's say a woman is between

761
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:25,879
Speaker 1: the age of thirty five and she's doing pretty good.

762
00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:30,920
Speaker 1: Let's say she makes like sixty Yeah, she's okay for

763
00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:38,920
Speaker 1: just her right? Yeah? Does getting her body done enhance

764
00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:43,520
Speaker 1: your interest in her? Or does it subtract is natural?

765
00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:50,680
Speaker 1: Does natural still matter? Yeah? I think you know it

766
00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:58,560
Speaker 1: depends on you know, I mean, right pace? Does that

767
00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:06,160
Speaker 1: enhance the mark? More checks now look different on social

768
00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:09,040
Speaker 1: media alone? A lot of it is not the gym

769
00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:14,200
Speaker 1: body fit, right, I'm asking just natural matter anymore? Or

770
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:16,759
Speaker 1: as long as you have this society standard of what

771
00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:19,560
Speaker 1: beautiful is? I think I think that that's a good question.

772
00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:22,080
Speaker 1: But I think that's more on the guy. I think

773
00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:25,920
Speaker 1: that's a matter. That's something that like that whole made up,

774
00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:30,040
Speaker 1: you know, Nicki Minaje, Cardi B. And why is we

775
00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:33,800
Speaker 1: trying to put people's names in this. I'm not saying,

776
00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:38,040
Speaker 1: I'm not saying overly done. But for a lot of women,

777
00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:49,120
Speaker 1: they feel they need to keep up up, who have

778
00:45:51,640 --> 00:46:01,680
Speaker 1: what point? Here's the thing, Here's here's what you're saying.

779
00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:04,440
Speaker 1: They have to have that surgery because they're trying to

780
00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:07,080
Speaker 1: keep up, because they've lost ground. Over the past fifteen

781
00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:09,600
Speaker 1: years from you know you're having a certain let's say

782
00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:11,560
Speaker 1: they have it at thirty five. They're not the same

783
00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:13,800
Speaker 1: person they were at twenty or twenty five. That's what

784
00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:16,719
Speaker 1: they're trying. They're trying to keep up. Well, I don't know,

785
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:32,880
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. That's not honest with yourself.

786
00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:41,840
Speaker 1: This is what honest and what you actually can't have.

787
00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:45,680
Speaker 1: And I think that's worth women. Missy miss him said,

788
00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:48,120
Speaker 1: that's why they're unhappy. Like, that's why a lot of

789
00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:50,719
Speaker 1: women are unhappy. When I asked his sister, because she

790
00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:53,000
Speaker 1: what she did to do that makes fifty thou kept

791
00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:56,120
Speaker 1: talking around it, right if you don't, but something that

792
00:46:56,600 --> 00:47:02,520
Speaker 1: makes every black man makes it album. You said you

793
00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:04,800
Speaker 1: didn't have a number, So that's a number, right, No,

794
00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:11,080
Speaker 1: I said more than member. That's her number. Right, So

795
00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:13,880
Speaker 1: she does have a number, and we know it starts

796
00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:17,359
Speaker 1: at overtollars. No, the thing is an average black man

797
00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:20,319
Speaker 1: in America makes forty two dollars a year. Average man

798
00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:23,839
Speaker 1: that the average white man in America makes fifty one

799
00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:28,200
Speaker 1: dollars a year. How so that's value. No, that's an average,

800
00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:34,160
Speaker 1: isn't the average? Guys? Because that's on the spot and

801
00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:37,120
Speaker 1: because then we're gonna in that be simone category, like

802
00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:42,719
Speaker 1: we're like shipping on the average man. Or I think

803
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:47,920
Speaker 1: that's not you're not shipping on the average man. If

804
00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:50,600
Speaker 1: you're honest with yourself about saying you need an average man,

805
00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:54,120
Speaker 1: maybe you need an average man, that's what he was saying.

806
00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:56,640
Speaker 1: If you be honest with yourself, you might be like

807
00:47:56,800 --> 00:48:10,680
Speaker 1: I might not mean average around a woman average. You

808
00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:14,360
Speaker 1: go around and asked women the magic numbers six figures.

809
00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:17,879
Speaker 1: Most women have six figures in their head. They may

810
00:48:18,080 --> 00:48:22,480
Speaker 1: not say it, but they need would don't belong to you?

811
00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:27,560
Speaker 1: How gonna give you that right? But most women? But

812
00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:34,640
Speaker 1: if that's what most women, I might. But if that's

813
00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:39,720
Speaker 1: what you're looking that's what you're looking for. Never be settled.

814
00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:44,120
Speaker 1: You'll never be settled for less. If you always wanted

815
00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:47,480
Speaker 1: something that you can't have, you'll never be really comfortable

816
00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:52,120
Speaker 1: with something less. If you're honest with yourself and say this,

817
00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:57,480
Speaker 1: maybe where I need to be right like her her situation,

818
00:48:57,600 --> 00:48:59,239
Speaker 1: she might need to mess with her brother to make

819
00:48:59,320 --> 00:49:02,320
Speaker 1: fifty bucks right, because that might be the dude that

820
00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:08,480
Speaker 1: works well in her situation. Because if you because if

821
00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:10,600
Speaker 1: you mess with the dude. They say, make a hundred

822
00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:15,160
Speaker 1: and sixty Do that make a hundred and fifty bucks

823
00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:18,719
Speaker 1: or two hundred bucks? Then that that guy, that guy,

824
00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:22,840
Speaker 1: that guy has more women coming at him because everybody

825
00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:26,200
Speaker 1: wants that. And the more you check those boxes, the

826
00:49:26,360 --> 00:49:29,960
Speaker 1: more women are in his pool. So you saying, well,

827
00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:31,960
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go in with the pool with all the

828
00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:36,319
Speaker 1: women if you six four, two hundred fifteen pounds, make

829
00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:38,640
Speaker 1: five hundred grand of the year, you know, saying, have

830
00:49:38,760 --> 00:49:41,960
Speaker 1: a nice will educated. You know what I'm saying, You're intelligent.

831
00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:45,200
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Everybody want that dude, right,

832
00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:48,200
Speaker 1: everybody won't that dude. I know that for show. Everybody

833
00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:50,439
Speaker 1: want that dude. So if you go after that dude,

834
00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:55,080
Speaker 1: his pool is this big right where you where your

835
00:49:55,120 --> 00:49:57,359
Speaker 1: pool go down. You know what I'm saying, you might

836
00:49:57,400 --> 00:50:00,400
Speaker 1: need to be fishing in the pool, just like speak.

837
00:50:00,719 --> 00:50:03,560
Speaker 1: But most women like them shales about what they want.

838
00:50:04,520 --> 00:50:08,640
Speaker 1: You know what, those people don't even try to talk

839
00:50:08,680 --> 00:50:12,960
Speaker 1: to me. And he said that too, He said, what

840
00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:19,960
Speaker 1: the under they don't even I don't want to say that.

841
00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:26,800
Speaker 1: I don't where you ain't normal places. I go to

842
00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:31,560
Speaker 1: Davenport most of the cat said that makes it be

843
00:50:31,640 --> 00:50:36,759
Speaker 1: some unders what I said, most of the I don't care.

844
00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:38,680
Speaker 1: How do you know when you look at them? Man?

845
00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:43,880
Speaker 1: How much money he may really? Hedn't say that. I said,

846
00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:54,320
Speaker 1: who tries to talk to me? I know the people

847
00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:57,560
Speaker 1: who who try to talk to me? So with me,

848
00:50:57,719 --> 00:50:59,480
Speaker 1: no on who's trying to talk to me? I know

849
00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:03,080
Speaker 1: who you are. Those people don't even approach me. And

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying what do you think? Is the what

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Speaker 1: do you think of this percentage? Its father? The women

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Speaker 1: of men that make a hundred bucks more a hundred thousand,

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Speaker 1: it's not a lot like what just anywhere? Just what

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Speaker 1: I don't know about to ask you to guess, I

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Speaker 1: can't tell you what you know? What do you think? Women?

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Speaker 1: I always do that. We'll just ask a lot of

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Speaker 1: a little bit. What do you think? What do you think?

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Speaker 1: What do you think? What do you What do you think?

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Speaker 1: But I think it's probably in the middle. I'd say,

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Speaker 1: what do you think? What do you think? The proceeding

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Speaker 1: if you had to get my family were talking about population.

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Speaker 1: We're talking about it general population. Maybe the proceedings the

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Speaker 1: now should know percentages about nine percent nine percent? So

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Speaker 1: if you think it is thirty percent. You I know

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Speaker 1: because they bring the W two and sure I know

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Speaker 1: what they make. Most of guys don't make a hundred bucks,

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Speaker 1: so there's only nine percent. Everybody wants someone that makes

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Speaker 1: more than fifty k. I've never approached the man I said,

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Speaker 1: you approached me, So you're saying that nationally that has

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Speaker 1: never So I'm not whatever problem not you're saying percent

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Speaker 1: of the male population you've got left. So I want

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Speaker 1: to see that. I want to see I want to

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Speaker 1: see that Google, because there's a lot of now, not

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Speaker 1: nine of the people. You know, I'm not talking about

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Speaker 1: hustle cats. Ain't something about there's a lot of drivers

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Speaker 1: make you have how many team talking about on Black

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Speaker 1: demographics dot com? He's correct, are you on it? Nine

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Speaker 1: percent of black men make a hundred men in the world?

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Speaker 1: It might be I think the number might have rose

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Speaker 1: risen to about thirteen percent of all men make of

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Speaker 1: all the men in America, thirteen percent of them making

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Speaker 1: a hunder grand, hundred grand or more, a hundred grand

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Speaker 1: or more. If we we as black people only make

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Speaker 1: up twelve thirteen percent. So if you're saying that most

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Speaker 1: of the dudes that you met, make a hunted books.

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Speaker 1: Not the question. You said that approach you make a

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Speaker 1: honey bunk. You said that the lower ones don't talk

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Speaker 1: to you. That's what all she All she addressed was

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Speaker 1: the lower She never addressed anything regarding her number lord

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Speaker 1: than her doesn't approach, That's what I said. So he

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Speaker 1: said that, now you're just talking something. I don't know

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Speaker 1: how you quantify that did because I'm like, if you

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Speaker 1: can somebody walk up to you and they started talking

894
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Speaker 1: to you, you'll be like what you looking? He was not.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, I said, I'm just I said, I'm guessing,

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Speaker 1: and she is to be guessing. She saw W two.

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Speaker 1: You know how, I date pretty much every man that

898
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Speaker 1: I've ever dated. For it, right, I've met them through someone.

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Speaker 1: That's the only for only those are the four dudes

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Speaker 1: that I talked to. Wait, wait and now you you

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Speaker 1: we've been around each other every time. Wait, every time

902
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Speaker 1: we've been out. I'm around what a group? Right, Nobody's

903
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Speaker 1: gonna approach me when I'm with this group, and I

904
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Speaker 1: don't talk to none of them. I keep when I go,

905
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Speaker 1: when I go, am I lying when I go out somewhere.

906
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Speaker 1: So you don't when I go out me, I'm talking

907
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Speaker 1: about me. I'm not talking about nobody else. When I

908
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Speaker 1: go out, I surround myself with the people that I

909
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Speaker 1: feel comfortable with going out. You know who I beat with?

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Speaker 1: You know, Okay, No, they're not toppoach you because no one,

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Speaker 1: thank you associate exactly because of association. They don't because

912
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Speaker 1: of what they're associated with you, Like they can't exactly.

913
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Speaker 1: So it has nothing to do with what I would accept.

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Speaker 1: What intimidation okay, let yeah, yeah, not even no no

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Speaker 1: no no no no, not with me, No no no,

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Speaker 1: not not eximidad with me. No, not attimidated with me,

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Speaker 1: not with me, with the situation I'm in. That's a

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Speaker 1: difference now that she's weird. Like I said, I'm not

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Speaker 1: saying it's like I'm not gonna it's like family, I'm

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Speaker 1: never whatever, but I've never t I don't know. I

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Speaker 1: don't like to go out. That's why always, always never,

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Speaker 1: But you are around were not exactly like because you

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Speaker 1: don't know who I always and I'm not with anyone,

924
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Speaker 1: but you just don't know, so not like oh you

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Speaker 1: look scary? Are you got? And it's nothing has nothing

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Speaker 1: to do See, this is what I'm talking about. That

927
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Speaker 1: is what I'm talking about. Hate UM. Kevin Samuel's death

928
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Speaker 1: has sparked the conversation among people all over the world,

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Speaker 1: and specifically men and women, about the harsh realities of

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Speaker 1: dating and relationships. R I P. Kevin Samuel's no more talk.

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