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Speaker 3: Yang Bowen, Welcome to I said no good, thank.

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Speaker 1: You so much. I feel like it would not have

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Speaker 3: Actually, I'm now recalling a food poisoning situation that lasted

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Speaker 3: I haven't played Pokemon maybe since Game Boy Advance. I

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Speaker 1: Guess what it's because it's been the same game since

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Speaker 3: Okay, okay, okay, Well you're throwing balls of its favorite

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Speaker 3: Look, Pokemon is one of the most successful gaming game

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Speaker 1: I'll never understand that, neither will I. Did you play

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Speaker 3: And I love to collect the Pokemon.

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Speaker 1: Oh, it's been more fun than ever. I really am

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Speaker 3: Make no mistake, and of course, yeah, I think we

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Speaker 3: It should be Yes, absolutely, do you name your Pokemon?

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Speaker 3: It was very early gay behavior naming every Pokemon with

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Speaker 3: This game is absolutely robbing the pokemon of their dignity.

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Speaker 1: Look into that. I did see someone on Instagram name

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Speaker 4: I'm glad we both checked ourselves that could that path

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Speaker 1: and yet it feels like so many things have happened,

434
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Speaker 1: and I'm sure, like.

435
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I haven't had a chance to talk to anyone

436
00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:51,880
Speaker 3: about I mean, the most famous moment with Lisa Barlow,

437
00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:54,560
Speaker 3: the Darkness.

438
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Speaker 1: Of the Darkness Bridger, I want you to think about

439
00:22:57,240 --> 00:23:00,800
Speaker 1: a friend you've had for ten years that about you.

440
00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:04,560
Speaker 1: Isn't that wild? I mean yeah, even someone that you

441
00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:10,119
Speaker 1: don't know calling you a garbage wore? What? What? What? Also,

442
00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:14,359
Speaker 1: my friend's pointing out something very very interesting, which is

443
00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:17,720
Speaker 1: that like multiple house ives have done this thing of

444
00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:20,280
Speaker 1: saying she doesn't she doesn't even own her house or

445
00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:22,800
Speaker 1: like you know, she doesn't even have a house. And

446
00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:24,919
Speaker 1: that's never like the burn that they think it is

447
00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:26,920
Speaker 1: because for most of us, watch for most of us

448
00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:30,960
Speaker 1: non homeowners were like, yeah, neither do I.

449
00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:34,680
Speaker 3: She's renting a place that is beyond my imagination. Yes,

450
00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:39,200
Speaker 3: so that rental, Yeah, that rental is like insane. It's

451
00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:42,000
Speaker 3: in like Park City, that's a very expensive place to

452
00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:45,520
Speaker 3: mental exactly. My I just had this explain to me

453
00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:47,679
Speaker 3: because I was so I was like, who is Lisa

454
00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:50,760
Speaker 3: barlow talking to? I mean, I was imagining her, like

455
00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:54,240
Speaker 3: my in my hopes of hopes was that she entered

456
00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:56,800
Speaker 3: that room. There was kind of like a mysterious mirror

457
00:23:56,840 --> 00:23:58,879
Speaker 3: that suddenly there was an evil version of her in

458
00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:02,200
Speaker 3: and she was having conversation with you know, the other

459
00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:03,320
Speaker 3: Lisa Barlowe.

460
00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:05,520
Speaker 1: But apparently like the producer.

461
00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:07,600
Speaker 3: Is in that room and she's talking to him as

462
00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:11,879
Speaker 3: she's like disrobing. I don't understand what's going on. Yeah,

463
00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:13,960
Speaker 3: I mean the explanation that was made to me was

464
00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:17,040
Speaker 3: there are producers. I hope I'm not, you know, ruining

465
00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:19,440
Speaker 3: the show for anyone, but like when someone storms off

466
00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:21,320
Speaker 3: that they try to talk them down because they could

467
00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:23,440
Speaker 3: get in the way of the storyline.

468
00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:26,760
Speaker 1: Because they're because the stories are being produced by someone.

469
00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:30,080
Speaker 3: Right, so there's somebody waiting there. Although for the producer

470
00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:32,040
Speaker 3: that must be like, well, this is way better than

471
00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:35,280
Speaker 3: our storyline. Sure, so I guess that you kind of

472
00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:37,160
Speaker 3: prod and poke and say, well, what do you think

473
00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:41,960
Speaker 3: about Meredith's infidelity, and then you just let her get into.

474
00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:45,960
Speaker 1: It totally, totally. I just feel like I'm surprised that

475
00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:49,879
Speaker 1: they haven't done this more often in the past, because

476
00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:52,840
Speaker 1: it feels like someone that that's just like a perfectly

477
00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:59,959
Speaker 1: rife territory for people to just like unload. Yeah, yeah,

478
00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:00,480
Speaker 1: I do you have.

479
00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:02,840
Speaker 3: I don't know that I've ever heard I mean outside

480
00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:05,879
Speaker 3: of you know, like the leaked Mel Gibson tapes audio

481
00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:07,399
Speaker 3: that violently angry.

482
00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:10,280
Speaker 1: It's like we're going to compare Lisa to Mel Gibson.

483
00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:13,480
Speaker 1: She's just kind of a mel Gibson type. Yes, yes,

484
00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:19,240
Speaker 1: it's absolutely you know, I feel like I still relate

485
00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:23,239
Speaker 1: to Lisa more than ever really how so well, I

486
00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:26,600
Speaker 1: just I just think it's really flipped this year, this season,

487
00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:30,800
Speaker 1: where last season I was really on Meredith's side, and

488
00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:35,840
Speaker 1: this season I find Meredith to be as a little

489
00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:38,320
Speaker 1: bit unhinged as the rest of the women, and now

490
00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:40,240
Speaker 1: that they're all on like an even playing field, I

491
00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:47,880
Speaker 1: find Lisa to be charming compared to the other women. Wow.

492
00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:53,320
Speaker 4: Completely disagree. Okay, Okay, I accept that. I accept.

493
00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:56,159
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm obviously you know, the one thing she

494
00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:59,400
Speaker 3: and I have in common is the diet soda consumption.

495
00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:03,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, but other than that, I just can't get on

496
00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:06,720
Speaker 1: board with Lisa anymore. Are you are you? Are you

497
00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:09,920
Speaker 1: pro Meredith? I'm not pro Meredith, but I do love

498
00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:10,840
Speaker 1: she does.

499
00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:13,159
Speaker 3: I mean, she's the one person with like a I

500
00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:18,840
Speaker 3: feel like an operating intelligence, I'll say, sure, sure. And

501
00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:21,720
Speaker 3: the fact that you know her saying she submitted everyone

502
00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:24,399
Speaker 3: to a private investigator, I mean, just whatever's going on

503
00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:27,439
Speaker 3: in her life. She I love how much better she

504
00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:30,359
Speaker 3: thinks she is than everyone else on the show. That

505
00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:32,240
Speaker 3: comes through loud and clear.

506
00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:37,919
Speaker 1: And you like that. I love it. I find someone

507
00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:43,040
Speaker 1: like a Whitney or a Heather very sympathetic because they

508
00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:46,960
Speaker 1: are also clearly much more emotionally intelligent than anyone on.

509
00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:51,440
Speaker 3: The shop emotionally intelligence certainly, well, Whitney, I don't know Whitney,

510
00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:53,080
Speaker 3: I don't know Heather certainly.

511
00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:55,720
Speaker 1: Oh but the way Whitney was just rattling off all

512
00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:59,560
Speaker 1: these all like the not legal ees, but she was like, well,

513
00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:03,280
Speaker 1: you know, on the first bus to Veil, which she

514
00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:06,760
Speaker 1: was like, fraud, fraud, and she was just like like

515
00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:09,640
Speaker 1: like like Whitney knew the lay of the land immediately.

516
00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:11,480
Speaker 1: She like she like she like got it, and she

517
00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:13,560
Speaker 1: was explaining this to the other women in a way

518
00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:16,320
Speaker 1: that I was like, oh, no, Whitney. I've always found

519
00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:19,440
Speaker 1: Whitney to be very smart and obviously like she's bubbly

520
00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:21,560
Speaker 1: and she's you know, she kind of like turns on

521
00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:25,600
Speaker 1: some sort of persona, but I feel like she is

522
00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:33,480
Speaker 1: very intelligent. Her draining her savings notwithstanding for no reason

523
00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:35,960
Speaker 1: at all, for no reason at all, absolutely no reason.

524
00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:38,280
Speaker 1: Bo And I I mean I would be I would

525
00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:42,040
Speaker 1: happily happily talk to you about the housewives and Pokemon

526
00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:46,040
Speaker 1: for another hour. But look, I mean Housewives are a

527
00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:49,800
Speaker 1: nice segue into this next thing I'd like to get

528
00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:52,040
Speaker 1: into because I'm just going to say, you've been rude.

529
00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:54,639
Speaker 1: There's something I need to talk to you about. Okay,

530
00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:56,439
Speaker 1: just gonna end up with one of us calling the

531
00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:59,800
Speaker 1: other a garbage whore. It's impossible to say, who do

532
00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:02,040
Speaker 1: you think would do that? I'm sorry, I'm cutting you off.

533
00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:04,000
Speaker 3: I feel like you're going to I feel like you're

534
00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:07,520
Speaker 3: very likely to storm into another room at this point

535
00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:11,160
Speaker 3: as their one right, and then Annaalis has to talk

536
00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:14,760
Speaker 3: you off the cliff. Bowen come back to the podcast,

537
00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:17,560
Speaker 3: and then you come back. I'm in tears.

538
00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:21,879
Speaker 1: Whatever I do, have a mirror version of myself that

539
00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:22,600
Speaker 1: I'm speaking to.

540
00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:26,920
Speaker 3: You agreed to be on this podcast a little while ago.

541
00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:30,720
Speaker 3: I was so happy. I thought, Bowen's so funny. We're

542
00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:33,760
Speaker 3: going to have a nice time. We'll talk, and then

543
00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:36,960
Speaker 3: it'll be over, we'll move on. So I was a

544
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:40,800
Speaker 3: little surprised. You know, the podcast is called I said

545
00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:44,000
Speaker 3: no gifts. You knew that when you agreed. I knew

546
00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:47,840
Speaker 3: that when I made the offer. I was a little

547
00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:51,640
Speaker 3: surprised the other day when I opened the door and

548
00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:54,200
Speaker 3: found a package.

549
00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:57,720
Speaker 1: Would you can say where it's from. I'm not going

550
00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:00,360
Speaker 1: to say where it's probably I'm not going to say

551
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:03,080
Speaker 1: where it's from, not because I want to protect you.

552
00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:05,840
Speaker 1: I want to protect me, and I don't sure. You know.

553
00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:08,920
Speaker 3: I saw a package, and I, you know, occasionally ordered

554
00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:11,800
Speaker 3: from this company, and I so, you know, I forgot

555
00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:15,400
Speaker 3: so I ripped it open in my greedy way, and

556
00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:19,000
Speaker 3: immediately upon seeing what was inside, seeing that it was,

557
00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:22,520
Speaker 3: you know, an object that I had not ordered, averted

558
00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:26,000
Speaker 3: my eyes. I thought, obviously Bowen has sent some sort

559
00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:27,840
Speaker 3: of surprise to the podcast.

560
00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:29,920
Speaker 1: I don't know what it is.

561
00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:33,920
Speaker 3: I still don't, you know, the listener knows that I'm

562
00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:37,520
Speaker 3: very honest about this. I like a surprise. I will

563
00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:39,480
Speaker 3: say I saw a flash of pink. That's all I

564
00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:39,840
Speaker 3: can say.

565
00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:47,760
Speaker 1: That's all. It's now kind of in this gorgeous bag.

566
00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:52,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's like a floral print some clearly used tissue

567
00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:54,640
Speaker 3: paper inside.

568
00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:58,200
Speaker 1: Bowen, is this a gift for me? It is a

569
00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:01,080
Speaker 1: gift for you. I know a lot of guests typically

570
00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:04,000
Speaker 1: write cards. I didn't know such a thing, because I

571
00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:07,800
Speaker 1: knew that would have probably incensed you even more. Thank you.

572
00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:11,680
Speaker 3: I appreciate that you're welcome. Uh, well, should I open

573
00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:13,200
Speaker 3: it here on the podcast.

574
00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:16,560
Speaker 1: I you might as well. I mean, we've gone this far.

575
00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:24,960
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I apologize.

576
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:27,480
Speaker 3: Thank you for your apology, Thank you a thousand times.

577
00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:31,360
Speaker 3: And now we're ripping in here tissue. Now here's the

578
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:35,640
Speaker 3: offending package, and we're going to finally find out what's happening.

579
00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:40,920
Speaker 1: What's in it? Okay? Are we ready? Oh? What is this?

580
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:44,800
Speaker 1: This is on send powder? And I should have I

581
00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:48,360
Speaker 1: should have inquired whether or not you had a bathtub,

582
00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:50,959
Speaker 1: because this is just a lovely little bath powder you

583
00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:54,640
Speaker 1: put in to simulate the experience of being in a

584
00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:55,600
Speaker 1: Japanese hot spring.

585
00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:59,400
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I do have a bathtub, and I've

586
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:02,880
Speaker 3: ever been to an so this is perfect.

587
00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:05,920
Speaker 1: Have you been to Japan. I've not been to Japan.

588
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:10,520
Speaker 1: I just have this weird just fascination with the culture,

589
00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:12,880
Speaker 1: right right, I think?

590
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:15,960
Speaker 3: I mean, I would say probably you might have a

591
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:18,400
Speaker 3: similar thing to me that playing up, growing up, playing

592
00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:22,520
Speaker 3: video games and consuming Japanese pop culture exactly, it probably

593
00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:25,800
Speaker 3: has led to that, what this is fascinating?

594
00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:26,400
Speaker 1: So how did you?

595
00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:29,400
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm familiar with the idea of an onsense,

596
00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:32,040
Speaker 3: but I've never I wouldn't be able to tell you

597
00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:33,600
Speaker 3: that there's a special powder there.

598
00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:37,240
Speaker 1: There's a powder for it. This is something that again

599
00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:41,080
Speaker 1: the first pandemic summer. I'm sorry to bring that up again.

600
00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:44,240
Speaker 1: I'm sorry to remind you of your the whiplash back

601
00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:50,480
Speaker 1: to this of our chronology. I'm sorry, but we I

602
00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:56,040
Speaker 1: looked up bath stuff because I was like, before the pandemic,

603
00:31:56,840 --> 00:32:00,520
Speaker 1: very anti bath, but you had nothing else to do.

604
00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:03,480
Speaker 1: So then I got really into bath and then I

605
00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:06,160
Speaker 1: read somewhere I forget where it was, but someone did

606
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:10,280
Speaker 1: sort of check this item as something that they enjoyed,

607
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:12,080
Speaker 1: and I was like, I'm going to order that, And

608
00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:13,960
Speaker 1: since then I got to say, I really, this is

609
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:17,640
Speaker 1: sort of an essential component of my bath ritual.

610
00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:21,880
Speaker 3: So is it like a like a bubble? Bath is

611
00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:26,160
Speaker 3: just a light film what's happening and the powder? Yes,

612
00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:32,400
Speaker 3: the powder is just a light fragrance. A color.

613
00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:35,000
Speaker 1: Sometimes. I think there's an assortment of colors in that

614
00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:37,920
Speaker 1: box that I've given you. So there's gonna be like

615
00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:42,719
Speaker 1: a very chemical, unnatural green, a pink, a yellow, but

616
00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:45,600
Speaker 1: it will feel really nice on the skin. It will

617
00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:48,280
Speaker 1: not foam or bubble. So if you want that to

618
00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:53,000
Speaker 1: be part of your sensory thing, like you gotta buy

619
00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:57,080
Speaker 1: your own bubble bath. So do you do a combination

620
00:32:57,440 --> 00:32:59,360
Speaker 1: or did you just do the powder? I always do

621
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:03,520
Speaker 1: a combination, okay, And I find that it really kind

622
00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:06,600
Speaker 1: of is a complete bath experience for me.

623
00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:10,120
Speaker 3: Now, listener, I'm just to describe what I'm looking at.

624
00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:12,280
Speaker 3: It's essentially like a little pink box. There's like a

625
00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:15,440
Speaker 3: little I think a Japanese woman on the front, and

626
00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:19,000
Speaker 3: then obviously all of the texts and Japanese. But it

627
00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:23,040
Speaker 3: looks like there are multiple powders or something in this

628
00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:26,360
Speaker 3: because multiple powers. I was expecting basically like a small

629
00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:28,760
Speaker 3: plastic bag that would not be where I would accidentally

630
00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:30,840
Speaker 3: dump into the bath and then it would all be gone.

631
00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:34,240
Speaker 3: This are individual almost like a yeah.

632
00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:35,040
Speaker 1: How would you describe it?

633
00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:37,800
Speaker 3: It's almost like a you could drop this in a

634
00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:39,560
Speaker 3: to go bag at a restaurant and someone would poured

635
00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:42,160
Speaker 3: this on their food. It's like a small ketch packet

636
00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:43,800
Speaker 3: like a large ketchup packet.

637
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:46,360
Speaker 1: I mean if you were at you know, if that

638
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:48,320
Speaker 1: was with you at lunch today, you would have just

639
00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:50,600
Speaker 1: tore it and open and it would have sort of

640
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:55,320
Speaker 1: just popped all of your clothes. I each individual package

641
00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:56,200
Speaker 1: is good for one bath.

642
00:33:56,520 --> 00:34:02,440
Speaker 3: Oh, this is treat it as you would cash, Yes, yes, okay,

643
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:03,600
Speaker 3: So how often are you bathing?

644
00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:06,360
Speaker 1: I'm not, I don't do it that often. I'll keep

645
00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:09,600
Speaker 1: it to like once a week or once every two weeks.

646
00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:12,920
Speaker 1: It's more, it's more actually accurate, to say once every

647
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:13,920
Speaker 1: ten days or so.

648
00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:16,719
Speaker 3: Oh, that's pretty frequent, though, the rice a month? Is

649
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:20,040
Speaker 3: it to take a full bath every ten days? I

650
00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:24,280
Speaker 3: would say maybe, I'm I'm taking a bath once every

651
00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:27,359
Speaker 3: five weeks. I want to isolate all this audio and

652
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:29,880
Speaker 3: release it. So it just sounds like you and I

653
00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:32,719
Speaker 3: are either bathing every ten days or every five weeks,

654
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:36,280
Speaker 3: and then the rest of the time we're filthy. Yes, yes,

655
00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:39,200
Speaker 3: we don't do any sort of cleaning. Yeah, there's no showering,

656
00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:41,719
Speaker 3: there's nothing. I'm just covered in grime. And then every

657
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:44,040
Speaker 3: five weeks I get hosed down and I consider that

658
00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:46,880
Speaker 3: a fou No I will I will fill a bath

659
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:49,200
Speaker 3: once every five weeks, and it's incredible.

660
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:53,960
Speaker 1: Yes, what keeps you from doing it more often? Well?

661
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:56,280
Speaker 1: I don't like to enjoy myself. It is wasteful.

662
00:34:57,280 --> 00:35:00,200
Speaker 3: Okay, Okay, I actually don't think a bath is wasteful.

663
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:03,280
Speaker 3: I think a shower is probably more wasteful than a bath.

664
00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:06,880
Speaker 1: I've been recently told the opposite, and I don't know

665
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:10,239
Speaker 1: who to believe, because I'm so willing to believe you,

666
00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:14,280
Speaker 1: to believe you to do Yeah, I just I wish

667
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:18,000
Speaker 1: that the baths weren't. But I'm someone told me on

668
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:19,960
Speaker 1: good authority that it's more wasteful.

669
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:23,960
Speaker 4: Who told you this? The water? The water, the water,

670
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:31,439
Speaker 4: the force? Water force knocked on your door? Yes that, Hey,

671
00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:35,600
Speaker 4: you know what. We know you like this, but I

672
00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:36,200
Speaker 4: don't do it.

673
00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:39,920
Speaker 3: I just feel like I take long showers and that

674
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:43,520
Speaker 3: water's just going down the drain NonStop. You know I'm

675
00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:46,440
Speaker 3: in there for twenty twenty five minutes. Well, oh, okay,

676
00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:50,239
Speaker 3: that's not that long. That sounds like someone's having a breakdown.

677
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:52,560
Speaker 3: I'm not in there for twenty five minutes, Okay, I

678
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:56,120
Speaker 3: believe you ten I would say probably ten to thirteen

679
00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:58,440
Speaker 3: minutes when I was growing up or not.

680
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:00,440
Speaker 1: When I was growing up. I remember going up and

681
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:03,920
Speaker 1: watching an episode of Seinfeld, and I think, like Kramer

682
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:09,360
Speaker 1: has is pulling everybody like how long their showers are?

683
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:13,359
Speaker 1: And everyone answers him ten minutes, And I was like,

684
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:17,680
Speaker 1: I guess I should be taking longer showers, and to

685
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:21,200
Speaker 1: this day, I still only take like a three minute shower.

686
00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:22,560
Speaker 1: And you know how he can tell is because I'll

687
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:25,279
Speaker 1: put on a song before I get in, and by

688
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:26,960
Speaker 1: the time i'm out, I'm like, the song is still on.

689
00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:30,000
Speaker 1: Oh and that is way too short. I'm hearing two

690
00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:34,160
Speaker 1: songs at least. Okay, have you I don't know, so

691
00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:37,000
Speaker 1: I let me just walk you through what my typical

692
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:42,040
Speaker 1: shower is. I'll get in, do do shampoo, then conditioner

693
00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:44,880
Speaker 1: because I leave the conditioner in for a minute or so. Okay,

694
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:48,600
Speaker 1: but that whole process takes what two minutes? Sure? Then

695
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:51,839
Speaker 1: that third minute, I'm just slathering on some shower gel,

696
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:55,520
Speaker 1: some body wash, rint it off, and then I'm out.

697
00:36:56,080 --> 00:37:00,160
Speaker 1: This is so joyless. What else are you doing in there? Look? Okay,

698
00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:02,200
Speaker 1: this is me. I put on the music. Yeah.

699
00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:04,040
Speaker 3: And also I'll say that when you're in the shower's

700
00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:05,960
Speaker 3: a good time to listen to new music or like

701
00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:08,560
Speaker 3: music that you're like you would like to get used to,

702
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:11,280
Speaker 3: because you know, there's less pressure on the music.

703
00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:12,200
Speaker 1: It can just be noise.

704
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:16,080
Speaker 3: Yes, I get in there, the first probably three minutes

705
00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:20,160
Speaker 3: are just getting my hair wet and just you know,

706
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:26,040
Speaker 3: releasing my cares. Okay, then I'm you know, I'm getting

707
00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:29,239
Speaker 3: the whatever. That's three minutes of nothing, three minutes of

708
00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:35,760
Speaker 3: absolutely nothing, okay, great, just truly being wet and letting

709
00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:40,040
Speaker 3: the temperature rise. Then I'm let's see what's happening next.

710
00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:42,560
Speaker 3: I'm getting the what what is this? What is the

711
00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:44,320
Speaker 3: little poo poof?

712
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:47,560
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, it's a lufa technically something else.

713
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:51,800
Speaker 3: It's like a plant that's then dried, which I've learned recently.

714
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:55,640
Speaker 3: I'm using the plastic one that is probably contributing to

715
00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:59,640
Speaker 3: some sort of ecological nightmare. Or sure, put the soap

716
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:05,719
Speaker 3: on it, wash up, rinse off. Okay, So then what

717
00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:07,920
Speaker 3: we're five minutes into showering.

718
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:09,000
Speaker 1: I'm then.

719
00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:13,160
Speaker 3: I'll spend another two minutes just kind of dicking around,

720
00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:18,440
Speaker 3: just doing nothing with myself. I will then shave, okay,

721
00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:24,120
Speaker 3: which takes considering that my face barely has any facial hair.

722
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:29,200
Speaker 1: Maybe two minutes. Great, what are we looking at here?

723
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:32,439
Speaker 1: I'm already dressed it, I'm already dressed. I'm already out

724
00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:36,560
Speaker 1: the door. I'm out of my apartment at this point.

725
00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:39,200
Speaker 1: What are you doing? Okay? Then I you know I

726
00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:41,040
Speaker 1: lost the shaving cream.

727
00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:44,640
Speaker 3: Uh, huh, maybe another, And then it really depends on

728
00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:47,560
Speaker 3: where I am mentally, because then the course we're done,

729
00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:51,640
Speaker 3: we're done, but that could then we've got a minute too,

730
00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:56,279
Speaker 3: I would say five minutes left of truly nothing, just

731
00:38:57,160 --> 00:39:01,000
Speaker 3: enjoying the spa atmosphere of the shower.

732
00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:04,640
Speaker 1: How are you standing? Can I ask? Are you like

733
00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:07,640
Speaker 1: during those moments of idling, like are you like just

734
00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:09,279
Speaker 1: kind of like limbs down.

735
00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:13,560
Speaker 3: Just kind of like like my soul just left my body?

736
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:15,920
Speaker 1: Or are you like rubbing on yourself like I'm just

737
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:20,000
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm sorry to ask, but I'm dan you're dancing.

738
00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:24,200
Speaker 3: I am absolutely dancing. No, that's a really good question.

739
00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:27,880
Speaker 1: What am I doing? I don't want to know. That's

740
00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:30,480
Speaker 1: a vulnerable question. That's I'm sorry, that's a vulnerable I don't.

741
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:33,920
Speaker 4: Think it's a vulnerable, and vulnerability is crucial when it

742
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:35,280
Speaker 4: is talking about showering.

743
00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:39,120
Speaker 3: But I truly don't know what. I've never even thought

744
00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:41,720
Speaker 3: about because I'm not really moving.

745
00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:45,719
Speaker 1: I guess I'm kind of you. Yeah, I'll do mine

746
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:47,719
Speaker 1: for you. Okay, this is this is this is mean

747
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:50,240
Speaker 1: just doing nothing in the shower. I'm kind of like

748
00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:51,759
Speaker 1: like my my, I think my I think I'm just

749
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:54,880
Speaker 1: doing like this. My arms are on my on my biceps,

750
00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:57,879
Speaker 1: just kind of like just kind of keeping holding myself close.

751
00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:01,239
Speaker 3: Like you've been through so thing. Yeah, do you need

752
00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:02,640
Speaker 3: a shock blanket or something?

753
00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:03,160
Speaker 1: Yes?

754
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:06,719
Speaker 3: I wonder am I I'm not doing this? I might

755
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:09,480
Speaker 3: be like, you know, running my fingers through my hair.

756
00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:12,319
Speaker 3: I mean, this is the most erotic this podcast will

757
00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:16,640
Speaker 3: ever be. I love it, but I yeah, I'm now

758
00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:19,760
Speaker 3: I'm going to be so self conscious, so self conscious

759
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:20,840
Speaker 3: the next time I'm in the shower.

760
00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:23,960
Speaker 1: I don't want to make you like that. I just

761
00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:27,000
Speaker 1: I'm just curious because you're spending a long stretches of time,

762
00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:32,279
Speaker 1: relatively speaking, just fate rabbit state, not doing anything. The

763
00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:36,759
Speaker 1: La River is hurting for water and you're taking all

764
00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:37,120
Speaker 1: of it.

765
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:39,799
Speaker 3: Oh what a shame. I mean, I guess I'm just

766
00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:41,520
Speaker 3: gonna have to figure out what I'm doing in there.

767
00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:45,919
Speaker 3: You know, this is such an excellent question. Occasionally I'll

768
00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:49,200
Speaker 3: sit down really Oh yeah, depending on your mental state,

769
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:51,719
Speaker 3: right absolutely, in like level of fatigue.

770
00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:56,560
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yeah, I don't know. No, that's that's totally fine.

771
00:40:56,600 --> 00:41:00,279
Speaker 1: I think American beauty scared me out of spending too

772
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:01,759
Speaker 1: much time in the shower. That's what it was. It

773
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:04,239
Speaker 1: was a Seinfeld in American beauty being like Sinfall being

774
00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:07,040
Speaker 1: like you should spend more time, and American Beauty being

775
00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:09,000
Speaker 1: like you should spend less time because otherwise you're like

776
00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:11,359
Speaker 1: Kevin Spacey and you're like, you know, this is like

777
00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:14,560
Speaker 1: it's all downhill from here. Whatever. He said, Oh my god,

778
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:18,279
Speaker 1: I'm Kevin Spacey. You're Kevin Spacey. This is all right.

779
00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:21,120
Speaker 4: Oh no, beginning of a very dark road for me.

780
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:23,080
Speaker 4: I don't like.

781
00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:24,080
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, but.

782
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:26,560
Speaker 3: I think you should add two extra minutes to your shower.

783
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:28,600
Speaker 3: That's all I'm saying. Five minutes feels like.

784
00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:31,920
Speaker 4: Not five much. Five is not too much. I will

785
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:34,480
Speaker 4: do five, I promise. There's so much water in New York.

786
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:39,680
Speaker 1: There is. There's plenty wor an island. You've got use

787
00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:41,080
Speaker 1: it up. That's what I said.

788
00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:44,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, So I have my ons and powder, I

789
00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:45,600
Speaker 3: dump it in the hot water, and then I.

790
00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:49,080
Speaker 1: Just sit there for a while. Light some candles, absolutely

791
00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:53,359
Speaker 1: play some music. I did buy. I did invest in,

792
00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:56,400
Speaker 1: like one of those bathtub trays. And what are you

793
00:41:56,440 --> 00:42:01,360
Speaker 1: putting on the tray. There's a candle sort of holder. Okay,

794
00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:05,000
Speaker 1: there's an iPad a little like rack if you want

795
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:08,359
Speaker 1: to like lean your iPad on, right, But let me

796
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:12,920
Speaker 1: tell you something. Within days immediately it developed mold. How

797
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:13,560
Speaker 1: to throw it out?

798
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:18,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, because you're only doing it every ten days. I

799
00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:20,919
Speaker 3: feel like if you were bathing every single day, maybe

800
00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:21,799
Speaker 3: it wouldn't get the mold.

801
00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:24,239
Speaker 1: I think no. I think it's because I'm bait. I

802
00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:27,920
Speaker 1: bathed too frequently or more frequently than you whatever, But

803
00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:31,080
Speaker 1: like it was, I think it's because I left it wet,

804
00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:33,160
Speaker 1: or there are more opportunities for it to get wet

805
00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:35,400
Speaker 1: and to pretain moisture so that they're for the mold.

806
00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:38,520
Speaker 1: And where we're restoring it, does it just stay on

807
00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:41,120
Speaker 1: the bath? I think I made a mistake of leaving

808
00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:41,680
Speaker 1: it on the bath.

809
00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:44,719
Speaker 3: Okay, but I feel like you kind of have no

810
00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:46,120
Speaker 3: what are you going to do? Put it in a

811
00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:49,839
Speaker 3: dark cupboard, it's going to be it'll walk away. I mean,

812
00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:51,320
Speaker 3: they're not a mold on that.

813
00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:54,080
Speaker 1: I know, I know, I guess, I guess there's it's

814
00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:59,080
Speaker 1: a flawed invention. It's a terrible invention. I mean, yeah,

815
00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:05,040
Speaker 1: I I feel like mankind will never hack it. That

816
00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:07,880
Speaker 1: feels like an impossible mountain to climb. It is, it is,

817
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:09,360
Speaker 1: it is. So do you read in the bath? What

818
00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:12,400
Speaker 1: are you doing? Just relaxing? No, I'm just I'm just

819
00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:16,719
Speaker 1: like truly, it's my one place to Maybe the reason

820
00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:19,719
Speaker 1: I do it so often is because outside of the

821
00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:21,839
Speaker 1: walls of my bathroom, I feel like I okay, so

822
00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:27,520
Speaker 1: see this is we have a similar relationship with our tubs, showers, whatever,

823
00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:34,160
Speaker 1: because I do feel like I have no control and

824
00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:36,359
Speaker 1: I don't want to make this like a self care thing.

825
00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:39,560
Speaker 1: It's but it's just literally that like I feel like

826
00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:43,799
Speaker 1: outside of the bathroom, I don't I cannot achieve this

827
00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:45,719
Speaker 1: level of relaxation.

828
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:48,359
Speaker 4: Right, yeah, right, So you're just going for it when

829
00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:51,440
Speaker 4: you're in the bath exactly, although you were bringing your

830
00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:52,120
Speaker 4: iPad in.

831
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:55,399
Speaker 1: I know, do you judge me for this?

832
00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:57,239
Speaker 3: I don't judge you for it, but I just feel

833
00:43:57,280 --> 00:43:59,160
Speaker 3: like that's such an opposite end of the spectrum as

834
00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:02,600
Speaker 3: far as relax goes. I mean, like, oh, but to

835
00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:05,520
Speaker 3: put on a show or something, I can't have I

836
00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:07,040
Speaker 3: have to have the outside world removed.

837
00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:08,480
Speaker 1: I mean the only thing I can do is read,

838
00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:09,600
Speaker 1: maybe read a book.

839
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:13,719
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, but like the one thing that appeals to

840
00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:16,319
Speaker 3: me about a wet environment. Is that my phone can

841
00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:20,279
Speaker 3: be nowhere near me iPad computer? Sure, I mean, I

842
00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:23,759
Speaker 3: just can leave that to the rest of my life.

843
00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:26,680
Speaker 1: If I were to be electrocuted by an electronic device

844
00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:28,640
Speaker 1: while I was in the path like that, that makes

845
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:32,359
Speaker 1: the most sense to go that way. That would be

846
00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:36,160
Speaker 1: your end, Yes, to be killed by an electronic because

847
00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:42,399
Speaker 1: I feel like they've slowly, you know, just corroded my soul, right, I.

848
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:44,279
Speaker 3: Mean, I think I can see myself playing Pokemon in

849
00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:47,719
Speaker 3: the path. Sure, I could probably get into that. Wait,

850
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:51,720
Speaker 3: like like like on the switch, like see that? Okay,

851
00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:53,640
Speaker 3: do you mean that? Because I can never do that?

852
00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:56,879
Speaker 3: That sounds very relaxing to me because video games has

853
00:44:56,920 --> 00:44:59,080
Speaker 3: nothing to do with what I do in my life, right,

854
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:03,600
Speaker 3: it's entertaining. I mean, my my fear would be I

855
00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:04,920
Speaker 3: was going to destroy my switch.

856
00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:08,920
Speaker 1: Of course, we'll see. I should be specific that the

857
00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:12,800
Speaker 1: only TV I watch in the tub is reality TV

858
00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:16,799
Speaker 1: because because I have no relationship to it, because I'm

859
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:19,359
Speaker 1: not like, well, they must have. I must have taken

860
00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:21,200
Speaker 1: forever to say, you know, like I'm never thinking about

861
00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:25,359
Speaker 1: the production for it. You know, Yeah, that makes sense.

862
00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:29,000
Speaker 3: That's I mean, basically the only television that feels remotely

863
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:32,600
Speaker 3: relaxing to me anymore is reality because of that exact reason,

864
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:36,840
Speaker 3: I'm not thinking about that people behind it exactly.

865
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:39,120
Speaker 1: But I guess I'm sorry to make this like an

866
00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:43,440
Speaker 1: industry convo, but like, does this does this apply to Like,

867
00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:47,000
Speaker 1: I don't know, does this make you? I feel like

868
00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:50,560
Speaker 1: I'm a bad student of my medium if I'm not

869
00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:53,640
Speaker 1: like constantly like up to speed on like what's out there.

870
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:56,080
Speaker 3: It's a horrible line to have to walk. I know,

871
00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:57,799
Speaker 3: I don't want to fall behind. I need to know

872
00:45:57,840 --> 00:45:58,520
Speaker 3: what's going on.

873
00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:00,080
Speaker 1: It's you.

874
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:04,280
Speaker 3: You know, it's valuable to see what other people have created, sure,

875
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:06,360
Speaker 3: but it's also miserable.

876
00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:07,840
Speaker 1: You have to protect yourself.

877
00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:11,520
Speaker 3: Yes, So yeah, it's like, I mean, I try to

878
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:13,759
Speaker 3: walk a nice line. And I feel like the pandemic

879
00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:16,279
Speaker 3: has helped in like really increasing the amount.

880
00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:19,080
Speaker 1: Of reality TV I've watched. So I always have like a.

881
00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:22,200
Speaker 3: Shark tank of housewives these things to fall back on

882
00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:25,520
Speaker 3: where my brain is at. You know, working at half

883
00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:28,440
Speaker 3: speed feels incredible.

884
00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:30,040
Speaker 1: Feeling the best feeling have you? Are you a ninety

885
00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:31,000
Speaker 1: dight fiance person?

886
00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:34,840
Speaker 3: I was for quite I mean I think maybe five

887
00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:36,400
Speaker 3: seasons at the beginning of the pandemic.

888
00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:39,200
Speaker 1: Okay, great, great, great, do you watch it? I am

889
00:46:39,239 --> 00:46:42,480
Speaker 1: only sort of picking and choosing which seasons, and it's

890
00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:46,880
Speaker 1: mostly before the Many Days. It's not the other one.

891
00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:50,960
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, I think that I have only seen ninety

892
00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:55,759
Speaker 3: Day and there's so many spinoffs, too many, one might say, yeah,

893
00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:58,640
Speaker 3: I mean there are They've diluted the brand in a

894
00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:01,359
Speaker 3: way that is I've never seen before. There's like one

895
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:03,640
Speaker 3: where I think that the couples just watched the show.

896
00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:07,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I did watch one of those episodes last night.

897
00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:11,040
Speaker 1: How did that feel? Kind of insane? I was like,

898
00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:15,800
Speaker 1: what am I watching? Exactly? It's them react, it's them reacting,

899
00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:18,879
Speaker 1: it's them watching themselves on the show. And then it's

900
00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:24,040
Speaker 1: them responding to tweets, like really horrid tweets about themselves.

901
00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:27,720
Speaker 1: And I'm like, this is actually not I'm watching someone

902
00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:30,759
Speaker 1: be like actually hurt by something, you know.

903
00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:33,960
Speaker 3: On the top of Yeah, they're not making any money,

904
00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:36,239
Speaker 3: it's not like they're this was making them rich?

905
00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:41,360
Speaker 1: Well can I say that? I did ask one of

906
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:44,799
Speaker 1: the producers, a friend who I later found out worked

907
00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:46,440
Speaker 1: on one of these seasons. I was like, how much

908
00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:48,839
Speaker 1: money do they make? And he did say that they

909
00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:51,200
Speaker 1: make as much money as a first year cast member

910
00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:54,960
Speaker 1: on SNL, so I was kidding me. I feel like

911
00:47:55,960 --> 00:47:58,080
Speaker 1: it makes total sense because you want to incentivize them

912
00:47:58,080 --> 00:47:59,320
Speaker 1: being on the show.

913
00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:02,480
Speaker 3: Right, and the people are so out of control. Sure,

914
00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:03,920
Speaker 3: do you just think that they would like work for

915
00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:05,000
Speaker 3: a bag of French fries?

916
00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:08,480
Speaker 1: Yeah that's true. Oh yeah, yeah, which is what I

917
00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:12,160
Speaker 1: get paid my first season. Yeah. This is not to

918
00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:15,680
Speaker 1: say that, like, no, famously, the contracts are not that

919
00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:18,400
Speaker 1: great for people working at the show starting out, and

920
00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:22,680
Speaker 1: I can comfortably say that anyway. Yeah, but it's not

921
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:23,839
Speaker 1: bad money as well.

922
00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:26,680
Speaker 3: I mean I just feel like for a ninety day

923
00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:30,799
Speaker 3: fiance person to be making over four dollars an hour

924
00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:31,880
Speaker 3: is shocking to me?

925
00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:32,560
Speaker 1: Is shocking?

926
00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:36,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely shocking because these people seem completely depraved and

927
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:40,840
Speaker 4: desperate in every aspect of their lives.

928
00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:44,680
Speaker 1: But I can't stop watching.

929
00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:49,480
Speaker 3: Sorry, Oh of course that I started watching Survivor.

930
00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:53,440
Speaker 1: Do you watch Survivor? I have also only picked and

931
00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:57,360
Speaker 1: chosen my Survivor's seasons, but I do love it.

932
00:48:57,360 --> 00:49:00,200
Speaker 3: It's incredible. I mean, there are how many seasons at

933
00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:03,440
Speaker 3: this point, thirty forty forty one, forty one did you watch.

934
00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:05,400
Speaker 1: This most recent this most recent season.

935
00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:09,120
Speaker 3: This is my experience with the show we watched, and

936
00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:13,120
Speaker 3: my detailing of this is going to be so painfully vague.

937
00:49:13,160 --> 00:49:15,279
Speaker 3: There were like two seasons on Netflix we didn't watch

938
00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:20,080
Speaker 3: Heros and Villains. Watched like something from twenty fourteen. Okay, great,

939
00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:24,200
Speaker 3: loved it, then jumped back to season two. I loved it,

940
00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:28,440
Speaker 3: Season three, loved it. I will say the seasons where

941
00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:30,160
Speaker 3: they don't have access to an ocean, I have a

942
00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:33,840
Speaker 3: hard time watching because everyone is so dusty.

943
00:49:33,640 --> 00:49:35,920
Speaker 1: All the time. Yeah, yeah, I need.

944
00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:38,120
Speaker 3: To know these people who are like getting into like

945
00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:40,560
Speaker 3: salt water and scrubbing themselves off.

946
00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:41,720
Speaker 1: It's yeah.

947
00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:44,560
Speaker 3: I think like the Africa season was very hard because

948
00:49:44,760 --> 00:49:47,560
Speaker 3: they just hadn't they were so dirty all the time.

949
00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:50,560
Speaker 1: They were just covered and orn't give these people an ocean.

950
00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:54,000
Speaker 1: Same with China, they were just really dirty the whole time.

951
00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:57,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, please please please give them access to something that

952
00:49:57,760 --> 00:49:59,879
Speaker 3: they'll be able to watch themselves. But I will say

953
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:03,160
Speaker 3: season two and three are shocking to watch because it's

954
00:50:03,160 --> 00:50:06,120
Speaker 3: like a different show. I mean, like it's brutal. They're

955
00:50:06,200 --> 00:50:08,760
Speaker 3: killing animals. A guy falls into a fire and burns

956
00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:13,200
Speaker 3: his hands off, it's really wild to watch. Have you

957
00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:14,560
Speaker 3: seen any of the early seasons.

958
00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:17,239
Speaker 1: I think I watched the first when I was in

959
00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:21,719
Speaker 1: like I don't know, elementary school, right, and I must have,

960
00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:24,399
Speaker 1: just I don't remember a single thing from them because

961
00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:29,319
Speaker 1: it probably was so shocking as a child to see, right.

962
00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:34,520
Speaker 3: My only experience with Survivor up until Pandemic was the

963
00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:40,640
Speaker 3: finale of season one. We watched Richard hatch Win, and

964
00:50:40,680 --> 00:50:42,640
Speaker 3: then I moved on with my life and so I'm revisiting.

965
00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:47,400
Speaker 3: But yeah, this most recent season, I was maybe two episodes,

966
00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:49,799
Speaker 3: and I had to give the amount of rules and

967
00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:52,320
Speaker 3: games that are now being played on this show. Yeah,

968
00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:54,520
Speaker 3: it has become like a puzzle box.

969
00:50:56,080 --> 00:50:58,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, it is a little bit. It is. But Jeff

970
00:50:58,680 --> 00:51:04,480
Speaker 1: Probe's fascinating person. I really admire him. I find him

971
00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:07,600
Speaker 1: to be so good at what he does and hens it.

972
00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:13,280
Speaker 1: He loves it. But he his job requires so many

973
00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:15,359
Speaker 1: skill sets, and I feel like he excels in all

974
00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:15,719
Speaker 1: of them.

975
00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:18,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's I mean, I'm sure his hosting of the

976
00:51:18,560 --> 00:51:21,560
Speaker 3: show was basically kind of by accident. He was kind

977
00:51:21,560 --> 00:51:23,960
Speaker 3: of kind of a no and he's just perfect for

978
00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:24,680
Speaker 3: the job.

979
00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:28,120
Speaker 1: Somehow, Like I don't either he was like born to

980
00:51:28,160 --> 00:51:30,200
Speaker 1: do it, or if like he just picked up these

981
00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:32,480
Speaker 1: things as he went right, like you know what I

982
00:51:32,520 --> 00:51:36,759
Speaker 1: mean whatever he's I mean, dream job, dream job, and

983
00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:39,320
Speaker 1: like the I've I have not seen this season, but

984
00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:41,200
Speaker 1: I think this is one of them on Netflix where

985
00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:47,120
Speaker 1: Zeke Smith gets outed at tribal council. I am not

986
00:51:47,160 --> 00:51:50,560
Speaker 1: familiar with this for Okay, So there's this big controversy

987
00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:54,480
Speaker 1: where Zeke Smith, who incidentally was a friend of mine

988
00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:58,279
Speaker 1: before he was on the show, he was outed by

989
00:51:58,280 --> 00:52:02,400
Speaker 1: one of his tribe mates. Oh my god in the

990
00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:04,840
Speaker 1: tribal council and it was shocking and it was this

991
00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:08,120
Speaker 1: incredible moment of television that was just so painful obviously

992
00:52:08,120 --> 00:52:11,000
Speaker 1: for Zeke, but he handled it sort of so so well.

993
00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:14,040
Speaker 1: And Jeff also knew exactly what to do in that

994
00:52:14,080 --> 00:52:17,120
Speaker 1: conversation where he was like wait, like this is this

995
00:52:17,200 --> 00:52:19,879
Speaker 1: is insane and like basically asked this person to leave.

996
00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:22,279
Speaker 1: Was just like oh, he was like, we don't even

997
00:52:22,320 --> 00:52:24,960
Speaker 1: have to do the voting, like we all know what's happening.

998
00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:28,480
Speaker 1: My god, I have to see this. It's actually it's

999
00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:31,880
Speaker 1: it's pretty riveting. I will it's obviously like it should

1000
00:52:31,880 --> 00:52:35,279
Speaker 1: not have happened, and Zeke has like really talked at

1001
00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:38,359
Speaker 1: length about this, but there's something in the way that

1002
00:52:38,480 --> 00:52:42,600
Speaker 1: Jeff like steers the conversation and is able to like

1003
00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:45,320
Speaker 1: really make sure that Zeke is taken care of. Before

1004
00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:48,080
Speaker 1: he's able to he opens up a door for everyone

1005
00:52:48,120 --> 00:52:50,920
Speaker 1: to be like, why the fuck would you do that? Wow,

1006
00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:54,480
Speaker 1: it's pretty incredible. Yeah, well I need to see it. Yeah. Anyway,

1007
00:52:54,520 --> 00:52:57,800
Speaker 1: I haven't seen the whole season, but even lacking that context,

1008
00:52:57,800 --> 00:52:59,200
Speaker 1: it's it's very interesting to watch.

1009
00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:02,000
Speaker 3: I mean, I mean the contestants on the show, I

1010
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:04,240
Speaker 3: mean they're all over the place, especially these early seasons.

1011
00:53:04,280 --> 00:53:06,520
Speaker 3: Like you go back, you're like, oh, I wonder what

1012
00:53:06,560 --> 00:53:08,640
Speaker 3: happened to that person? You look them up twenty years later,

1013
00:53:08,719 --> 00:53:11,560
Speaker 3: it's like, oh, they're like a child molester now, yeah.

1014
00:53:12,080 --> 00:53:14,920
Speaker 1: Or they're Elizabeth Hasselback. Yeah, Oh, I mean that what

1015
00:53:15,080 --> 00:53:16,000
Speaker 1: a thing.

1016
00:53:16,080 --> 00:53:19,040
Speaker 3: That is the fact that she's like a seventeen year

1017
00:53:19,080 --> 00:53:21,120
Speaker 3: old or whatever in that season and is now the

1018
00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:26,080
Speaker 3: devil is now the devil. Very interesting transformation. Is there

1019
00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:28,799
Speaker 3: anything else we need to say about Hansen Powder? We

1020
00:53:28,880 --> 00:53:30,959
Speaker 3: don't Okay, we.

1021
00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:33,399
Speaker 1: Really don't think. I think you've I think we've really

1022
00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:36,880
Speaker 1: sort of done an expository look at like shower and

1023
00:53:36,960 --> 00:53:40,759
Speaker 1: bath culture. So I think I think we've covered all

1024
00:53:40,760 --> 00:53:41,280
Speaker 1: our bases.

1025
00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:44,400
Speaker 3: I'm so excited about it. I think it's time to

1026
00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:47,080
Speaker 3: play a game. Okay, do you want to play? Actually,

1027
00:53:47,120 --> 00:53:48,919
Speaker 3: that's play Gift to a Curse. I'll tell you how

1028
00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:50,719
Speaker 3: how to play it when we get into it. I

1029
00:53:50,760 --> 00:53:54,040
Speaker 3: need a number between one and ten six. Okay, I

1030
00:53:54,080 --> 00:53:57,839
Speaker 3: have to do some light calculating. You can recommend something,

1031
00:53:57,880 --> 00:53:59,600
Speaker 3: you can promote something, do whatever you want.

1032
00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:04,440
Speaker 1: I'll be right. I recommend Pokemon Legends Archaeists, now available

1033
00:54:04,480 --> 00:54:10,880
Speaker 1: on Switch. You can watch your sindqual evolve into a Quilava,

1034
00:54:10,920 --> 00:54:14,880
Speaker 1: which then evolves into a Typhlosion, which in this redesign

1035
00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:19,480
Speaker 1: looks so crazy, like why did they make this choice

1036
00:54:19,520 --> 00:54:26,640
Speaker 1: to make typhlosion look again like depressed and stoned. I

1037
00:54:26,680 --> 00:54:29,880
Speaker 1: don't know. I just really have a lot of questions.

1038
00:54:29,920 --> 00:54:31,719
Speaker 1: I'd love to sit down with the people at game

1039
00:54:31,760 --> 00:54:35,759
Speaker 1: freaking Nintendo to really ask them to explain some of

1040
00:54:35,800 --> 00:54:37,960
Speaker 1: these design choices. Beautiful.

1041
00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:42,400
Speaker 3: Wait, I didn't ask you what Pokemon you your starter Pokemon.

1042
00:54:42,080 --> 00:54:44,399
Speaker 1: Was, It was, in fact a Sindequila. What about you?

1043
00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:47,360
Speaker 1: Is that the fire one yes, that's who I picked.

1044
00:54:47,560 --> 00:54:51,360
Speaker 1: Oh great, it looks great looking little creature. Very sweet,

1045
00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:52,160
Speaker 1: Thank you.

1046
00:54:55,080 --> 00:54:56,880
Speaker 4: Bo. When this is how gift or a curse works,

1047
00:54:57,120 --> 00:54:59,480
Speaker 4: I'm going to name three things you're gonna tell me

1048
00:54:59,480 --> 00:55:02,120
Speaker 4: if they're a gift to our curse and why there

1049
00:55:02,120 --> 00:55:04,480
Speaker 4: are absolutely correct answers to this game.

1050
00:55:04,560 --> 00:55:05,360
Speaker 1: You can lose.

1051
00:55:06,560 --> 00:55:08,960
Speaker 3: So many people have lost this game, and it's just

1052
00:55:09,080 --> 00:55:10,920
Speaker 3: shattering to think about.

1053
00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:13,480
Speaker 1: So be careful. Okay, okay.

1054
00:55:13,560 --> 00:55:16,520
Speaker 3: Number one, this is a listener's suggestion. Somebody named Doug

1055
00:55:17,040 --> 00:55:21,040
Speaker 3: has written in gift or a curse. Chance encounters.

1056
00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:28,800
Speaker 1: Gift. I feel like a chance encounter implies like welcoming something.

1057
00:55:30,360 --> 00:55:33,879
Speaker 1: If it's an unfavorable chance encounter, then you wouldn't call

1058
00:55:33,920 --> 00:55:37,719
Speaker 1: it a chance encounter. I feel like it's a gift.

1059
00:55:37,719 --> 00:55:41,600
Speaker 1: It's usually a gift beautifully played. Okay, great.

1060
00:55:41,640 --> 00:55:41,839
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1061
00:55:41,880 --> 00:55:44,720
Speaker 3: You don't have a chance encounter with a murderer. No,

1062
00:55:45,160 --> 00:55:47,200
Speaker 3: I had a chance encounter with my attacker.

1063
00:55:47,640 --> 00:55:48,120
Speaker 1: No.

1064
00:55:48,880 --> 00:55:51,600
Speaker 3: You have a chance encounter with somebody that you enjoyed

1065
00:55:51,600 --> 00:55:55,600
Speaker 3: from your past or someone who may you know help

1066
00:55:55,680 --> 00:55:56,520
Speaker 3: you on your way.

1067
00:55:57,040 --> 00:55:59,440
Speaker 1: Yes, never with an enemy.

1068
00:55:59,520 --> 00:56:02,759
Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, no, it's definitely a gift.

1069
00:56:02,760 --> 00:56:09,480
Speaker 1: I mean, what's the word for random. Run in. Yeah,

1070
00:56:09,560 --> 00:56:11,360
Speaker 1: like run in. I think run in.

1071
00:56:11,560 --> 00:56:13,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think a run in sounds kind of violent

1072
00:56:13,800 --> 00:56:16,080
Speaker 3: and unhappy. It's like, oh, I had to run in

1073
00:56:16,120 --> 00:56:18,239
Speaker 3: with a coworker that I thought I even never see

1074
00:56:18,239 --> 00:56:21,880
Speaker 3: again exactly, and then we had to talk and his

1075
00:56:22,040 --> 00:56:24,799
Speaker 3: husband was there and I hate him too. That kind

1076
00:56:24,800 --> 00:56:30,719
Speaker 3: of thing. Chance encounter, Yeah, lovely, absolutely. Okay, Okay, you

1077
00:56:30,800 --> 00:56:31,839
Speaker 3: got one out of one so far.

1078
00:56:32,040 --> 00:56:38,799
Speaker 1: Very nice. Number two gift or a curse? Bucket hats. This,

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00:56:39,080 --> 00:56:44,560
Speaker 1: I will say, is a curse, because there is I'm

1080
00:56:44,600 --> 00:56:49,239
Speaker 1: going to say it, there is an able ism to

1081
00:56:49,400 --> 00:56:56,560
Speaker 1: bucket hats for people with large skulls. And there's no

1082
00:56:56,920 --> 00:56:59,000
Speaker 1: such thing as a bucket hat large enough to make

1083
00:57:00,040 --> 00:57:04,960
Speaker 1: someone with big head like me look good. So it's

1084
00:57:05,000 --> 00:57:09,440
Speaker 1: a curse. Oh my god, I'm not gonna let you

1085
00:57:09,480 --> 00:57:11,680
Speaker 1: win this game, but you have gotten two out of

1086
00:57:11,680 --> 00:57:12,359
Speaker 1: two so far.

1087
00:57:13,160 --> 00:57:16,640
Speaker 3: The return of the bucket hat. You know who is

1088
00:57:16,680 --> 00:57:19,720
Speaker 3: famously worn. It's like, uh, it's a curse. Okay, let's

1089
00:57:19,720 --> 00:57:24,280
Speaker 3: be clear, it's a curse. It's like Woody Allen Jamiroquai.

1090
00:57:25,080 --> 00:57:27,280
Speaker 3: Are these the two most famous bucket hat wearers?

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00:57:28,120 --> 00:57:31,400
Speaker 1: And I can't think of anyone else, the guy on

1092
00:57:31,440 --> 00:57:35,840
Speaker 1: Gilligan's Island. Oh, honly is it's saying something, would she says, Oh,

1093
00:57:35,880 --> 00:57:38,680
Speaker 1: the guy from the New Radicals, of course. Oh yes,

1094
00:57:38,800 --> 00:57:41,480
Speaker 1: the cover on the cover. Yes, that's maybe the most

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00:57:41,480 --> 00:57:44,080
Speaker 1: famous bucket hat of all. I can't think of anyone.

1096
00:57:44,600 --> 00:57:47,360
Speaker 1: Did Harriet the Spy wear one. Oh that's an interesting

1097
00:57:47,440 --> 00:57:51,000
Speaker 1: I feel like, uh, you know, teen and tween girls

1098
00:57:51,040 --> 00:57:51,440
Speaker 1: can wear a.

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00:57:51,400 --> 00:57:54,560
Speaker 3: Bucket hat, but for the rest of us, let it go.

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00:57:54,800 --> 00:57:58,400
Speaker 3: It's a hideous looking thing. It makes everyone look bad,

1101
00:57:58,480 --> 00:58:01,400
Speaker 3: and we're gonna regret it. I've we did it before

1102
00:58:01,440 --> 00:58:05,120
Speaker 3: in nineteen ninety eight. For years, everyone regretted it, and

1103
00:58:05,160 --> 00:58:07,480
Speaker 3: now they're back. We're gonna regret it again.

1104
00:58:07,800 --> 00:58:10,200
Speaker 1: Oh god, yeah, they look.

1105
00:58:10,320 --> 00:58:12,000
Speaker 3: I mean now I'm thinking I feel like I've seen

1106
00:58:12,000 --> 00:58:13,800
Speaker 3: Diane Keaton and a bucket hat.

1107
00:58:14,160 --> 00:58:18,440
Speaker 1: No, it's not a bucket hat like like you mean

1108
00:58:18,440 --> 00:58:23,320
Speaker 1: in like something's gotta give, right everyone. I'm picturing her

1109
00:58:23,720 --> 00:58:26,160
Speaker 1: when she's walking down the beach with Jack Nicholson. Yeah,

1110
00:58:26,200 --> 00:58:28,320
Speaker 1: she might be wearing a bucket hat. I guess hers

1111
00:58:28,360 --> 00:58:31,960
Speaker 1: is more of like a beech hat, a woman's beach hat. Yeah, yeah,

1112
00:58:32,000 --> 00:58:33,760
Speaker 1: hold on, because I'm looking this up too.

1113
00:58:35,280 --> 00:58:38,040
Speaker 3: I can't imagine her in like a bucket hat. She

1114
00:58:38,120 --> 00:58:42,200
Speaker 3: bought a pack son, you know right, well, she is okay,

1115
00:58:42,200 --> 00:58:46,040
Speaker 3: she's wearing a white bucket hat. She absolutely is well,

1116
00:58:47,200 --> 00:58:49,360
Speaker 3: but did it look good on her? She looks good

1117
00:58:49,400 --> 00:58:49,720
Speaker 3: at it?

1118
00:58:50,400 --> 00:58:55,160
Speaker 1: I think, And this is this is the Nancy Meyers thing,

1119
00:58:56,280 --> 00:58:59,320
Speaker 1: is that the store, the plot point was turtlenecks in

1120
00:58:59,320 --> 00:59:03,480
Speaker 1: that movie. Do you remember? Have you seen this? No? Okay,

1121
00:59:04,720 --> 00:59:06,920
Speaker 1: it's a whole narrative device that she wears that her

1122
00:59:07,000 --> 00:59:10,720
Speaker 1: character loves turtlenecks, and so to add one more sort

1123
00:59:10,720 --> 00:59:14,160
Speaker 1: of polarizing, not that tournaments are that polarizing, but for

1124
00:59:15,000 --> 00:59:19,160
Speaker 1: her character to wear this other really distinct piece of

1125
00:59:19,200 --> 00:59:21,000
Speaker 1: clothing as I think too much.

1126
00:59:21,560 --> 00:59:24,640
Speaker 3: It's but I think you put that much on and

1127
00:59:24,680 --> 00:59:27,520
Speaker 3: you come back around and it works. Maybe I think

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00:59:27,520 --> 00:59:29,160
Speaker 3: that may be the intended.

1129
00:59:29,600 --> 00:59:31,800
Speaker 1: The fact that we're having this discussion, the fact that

1130
00:59:31,840 --> 00:59:35,439
Speaker 1: we're arguing about whether or not this bucket hat works

1131
00:59:35,480 --> 00:59:37,680
Speaker 1: on her, means that it doesn't work. It means it

1132
00:59:37,680 --> 00:59:40,240
Speaker 1: means that bucket hats don't work on anybody.

1133
00:59:40,520 --> 00:59:45,800
Speaker 3: Curse, curse for everybody. That's the final word. I absolutely agree.

1134
00:59:45,960 --> 00:59:48,120
Speaker 3: I'm you know this will be the beginning. I'm hoping

1135
00:59:48,160 --> 00:59:51,040
Speaker 3: that we can kind of just nip bucket heads bucket

1136
00:59:51,040 --> 00:59:54,080
Speaker 3: hats in the This is such a difficult thing to say,

1137
00:59:54,480 --> 00:59:57,200
Speaker 3: nip it in the bud with the bucket hats. Let's

1138
00:59:57,200 --> 01:00:00,600
Speaker 3: just get them out, move on fashion, can you know,

1139
01:00:01,200 --> 01:00:01,880
Speaker 3: leave it alone?

1140
01:00:02,080 --> 01:00:02,680
Speaker 1: Leave it alone?

1141
01:00:02,680 --> 01:00:06,000
Speaker 3: Two out of two this is terrific. I mean whatever, Okay,

1142
01:00:06,120 --> 01:00:09,240
Speaker 3: Number three gift or a curse? Now, this is an

1143
01:00:09,280 --> 01:00:13,960
Speaker 3: interesting one. Pop culture cookbooks, I e. Recipes from Harry Potter.

1144
01:00:14,200 --> 01:00:16,440
Speaker 3: You go out and buy a cookbook and it's like

1145
01:00:17,040 --> 01:00:19,320
Speaker 3: Harry Potter's stew or whatever.

1146
01:00:20,360 --> 01:00:28,440
Speaker 1: Harry Potter stu sounds disgusting. I feel like it's I

1147
01:00:28,480 --> 01:00:30,800
Speaker 1: feel like there. I feel like you're you're feeding me

1148
01:00:30,840 --> 01:00:35,160
Speaker 1: easy ones because I feel like these are pretty randomly chosen. Okay,

1149
01:00:35,280 --> 01:00:37,640
Speaker 1: that's why you take the number. I feel like it.

1150
01:00:37,760 --> 01:00:41,560
Speaker 1: I mean, they're always such clear marketing ploise and I

1151
01:00:41,600 --> 01:00:44,560
Speaker 1: feel like they must be considered curses. Is that your

1152
01:00:44,560 --> 01:00:51,920
Speaker 1: final answer? Yes, yeah, you're furious these is So this

1153
01:00:52,000 --> 01:00:54,480
Speaker 1: is the problem I've given you three. I mean, actually,

1154
01:00:54,480 --> 01:00:57,880
Speaker 1: there's no there's no arguing here. They're not really easy.

1155
01:00:57,920 --> 01:01:00,720
Speaker 3: But look, I can't there's there's no way I can

1156
01:01:00,840 --> 01:01:03,200
Speaker 3: argue that pop culture cookbooks are a gift. There's just

1157
01:01:03,280 --> 01:01:06,080
Speaker 3: not there's there's not an honest place to begin with

1158
01:01:06,080 --> 01:01:06,440
Speaker 3: with this.

1159
01:01:07,240 --> 01:01:10,560
Speaker 1: What anyone that buys one of these? What are you doing?

1160
01:01:10,840 --> 01:01:13,800
Speaker 1: What are you doing these things? Who is the recipe

1161
01:01:13,840 --> 01:01:16,680
Speaker 1: genius behind these? You trust? Somebody?

1162
01:01:18,160 --> 01:01:18,240
Speaker 4: What?

1163
01:01:19,280 --> 01:01:21,920
Speaker 1: I don't even know where to begin. I mean, do

1164
01:01:22,000 --> 01:01:23,600
Speaker 1: you have, like, like off the top of your head,

1165
01:01:23,600 --> 01:01:29,240
Speaker 1: like your favorite book, series, TV show, movie, video game

1166
01:01:29,360 --> 01:01:33,000
Speaker 1: of all time that I would want a cookbook from? Like,

1167
01:01:33,120 --> 01:01:34,880
Speaker 1: is there a universe? Is there a world that you love,

1168
01:01:34,920 --> 01:01:36,760
Speaker 1: a fictional world that you love so much that you're like,

1169
01:01:36,760 --> 01:01:39,160
Speaker 1: I got to eat the food from that? Absolutely not,

1170
01:01:39,720 --> 01:01:40,200
Speaker 1: there you go.

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01:01:40,280 --> 01:01:43,320
Speaker 3: There's not a single one where I'm like, I need

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01:01:43,320 --> 01:01:47,560
Speaker 3: to replicate what I'm watching a character eat, Yes, let

1173
01:01:47,600 --> 01:01:51,240
Speaker 3: alone from probably like a ninth string cookbook author who

1174
01:01:51,280 --> 01:01:52,479
Speaker 3: is ghosts written this thing.

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01:01:53,320 --> 01:01:57,200
Speaker 1: No, thank you. There's no fictional food that's that could

1176
01:01:57,200 --> 01:01:59,360
Speaker 1: be as good or better than the food that we

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01:01:59,400 --> 01:01:59,800
Speaker 1: already have.

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01:02:00,200 --> 01:02:03,400
Speaker 3: Well, and also it's just going to be disappointing. It's

1179
01:02:03,440 --> 01:02:05,240
Speaker 3: not going to be as good as what you imagined

1180
01:02:05,280 --> 01:02:08,200
Speaker 3: it would be. And it's just a sad situation. Just

1181
01:02:08,280 --> 01:02:09,760
Speaker 3: by a regular cookbook.

1182
01:02:10,040 --> 01:02:12,720
Speaker 1: There you go. If I'm making the thing, it's not

1183
01:02:12,760 --> 01:02:16,760
Speaker 1: going to turn out well. And that's like such a

1184
01:02:16,840 --> 01:02:20,440
Speaker 1: dumb like uh burn like self brand. But I mean, like,

1185
01:02:20,720 --> 01:02:22,680
Speaker 1: why would you trust yourself to make this thing? That

1186
01:02:22,800 --> 01:02:25,800
Speaker 1: was I don't know, like that that didn't exist before

1187
01:02:25,840 --> 01:02:26,960
Speaker 1: this book was written.

1188
01:02:27,320 --> 01:02:30,360
Speaker 3: Right, we saw like some prop person put together a

1189
01:02:30,360 --> 01:02:33,240
Speaker 3: piece of food. There was no recipe for that, right,

1190
01:02:33,800 --> 01:02:37,680
Speaker 3: it was just made to look good on screen, And

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01:02:37,720 --> 01:02:42,760
Speaker 3: now we're like cooking up I don't know, dumbleedore whatever

1192
01:02:42,840 --> 01:02:43,880
Speaker 3: balls meatballs?

1193
01:02:44,160 --> 01:02:48,160
Speaker 1: Right, dumble door meat on me? Actually, I take all

1194
01:02:48,240 --> 01:02:48,680
Speaker 1: this back.

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01:02:49,080 --> 01:02:51,760
Speaker 3: I would like to have a recipe for the food

1196
01:02:51,760 --> 01:02:52,920
Speaker 3: I was throwing at the Pokemon.

1197
01:02:53,680 --> 01:02:56,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, I want to know.

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01:02:54,680 --> 01:02:57,760
Speaker 3: What those balls of food that I was able to

1199
01:02:57,760 --> 01:02:59,520
Speaker 3: subdue a magical.

1200
01:02:59,120 --> 01:03:05,920
Speaker 4: Creature, a giant rock bug with scissor hands, with scissor

1201
01:03:06,000 --> 01:03:08,720
Speaker 4: axe hens axe hands. That's right, that's right, Thank you

1202
01:03:08,800 --> 01:03:11,520
Speaker 4: for keeping me honest. Well, okay, I mean look, I

1203
01:03:11,560 --> 01:03:13,400
Speaker 4: think there are like four or five people who have

1204
01:03:13,440 --> 01:03:15,959
Speaker 4: won this game before. It's disgusting that you were able

1205
01:03:16,000 --> 01:03:18,480
Speaker 4: to just kind of stomp in here and win. Sorry,

1206
01:03:18,920 --> 01:03:22,280
Speaker 4: but you know, we'll chalk it up to lock of

1207
01:03:22,360 --> 01:03:26,120
Speaker 4: the draw. Yes, bo when this is the final segment

1208
01:03:26,120 --> 01:03:29,120
Speaker 4: of the podcast, it's called I said no emails people

1209
01:03:29,200 --> 01:03:31,360
Speaker 4: right into I said no gifts at gmail dot com.

1210
01:03:32,520 --> 01:03:35,480
Speaker 4: All of them have these pathetic situations that need solving.

1211
01:03:35,800 --> 01:03:37,000
Speaker 4: Will you answer one with me?

1212
01:03:37,280 --> 01:03:39,760
Speaker 1: I'd be happy to. Okay, this is what this says,

1213
01:03:39,920 --> 01:03:44,120
Speaker 1: says Hibridger and whoever. So that's that's me. I don't know,

1214
01:03:44,160 --> 01:03:46,280
Speaker 1: that's kind of insulting. I don't know, that's okay.

1215
01:03:46,680 --> 01:03:49,360
Speaker 3: Today I got the shocking and delightful news that my

1216
01:03:49,440 --> 01:03:52,800
Speaker 3: friend Matt is now a parent. He and his husband

1217
01:03:52,800 --> 01:03:56,080
Speaker 3: adopted a foster kid two weeks ago. Congratulations to Matt.

1218
01:03:56,160 --> 01:03:56,640
Speaker 1: That's for me.

1219
01:03:57,560 --> 01:03:59,880
Speaker 3: This is a normal, normal thing for humans to do.

1220
01:04:00,160 --> 01:04:02,640
Speaker 3: But then he told me his son is nine years old.

1221
01:04:02,800 --> 01:04:03,240
Speaker 1: Okay.

1222
01:04:04,200 --> 01:04:06,479
Speaker 3: I was tickled and surprised because we're in our late

1223
01:04:06,640 --> 01:04:09,120
Speaker 3: twenties and this boy was born a year after we

1224
01:04:09,200 --> 01:04:12,320
Speaker 3: graduated from high school. Okay, this is all just the

1225
01:04:12,360 --> 01:04:16,000
Speaker 3: march of time we're talking about. You know, we're all

1226
01:04:16,040 --> 01:04:19,280
Speaker 3: in the river of time. It doesn't matter does one

1227
01:04:19,320 --> 01:04:21,000
Speaker 3: get a gift for a new parent of a nine

1228
01:04:21,040 --> 01:04:23,520
Speaker 3: year old? Is the gift for the parents or the child?

1229
01:04:23,960 --> 01:04:26,520
Speaker 3: What is a nine year old like in twenty twenty two.

1230
01:04:26,560 --> 01:04:29,040
Speaker 3: I have no idea. Matt and I were good friends

1231
01:04:29,080 --> 01:04:31,200
Speaker 3: in high school, but we lost touch for a decade

1232
01:04:31,280 --> 01:04:33,560
Speaker 3: until a few months ago when he started talking. We

1233
01:04:33,600 --> 01:04:37,000
Speaker 3: started talking again casually. All I know about his life

1234
01:04:37,000 --> 01:04:40,200
Speaker 3: these days is that he's married. He's a meteorologist, oh

1235
01:04:40,520 --> 01:04:45,480
Speaker 3: I hope on television, and his husband's name is also Matt. Well,

1236
01:04:45,960 --> 01:04:49,600
Speaker 3: his husband's name is also Matt. This is becoming. The details,

1237
01:04:50,160 --> 01:04:53,520
Speaker 3: the way that they're kind of being laid out, is interesting.

1238
01:04:54,040 --> 01:04:58,720
Speaker 3: I'll take any advice or suggestions you have. Thanks a million, Kevin. Okay,

1239
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:02,280
Speaker 3: there's so much going on here. First of all, let's

1240
01:05:02,280 --> 01:05:04,560
Speaker 3: just say, yes, you get a gift for the nine

1241
01:05:04,600 --> 01:05:07,040
Speaker 3: year old, You get a gift for the parent. Yes,

1242
01:05:08,160 --> 01:05:09,840
Speaker 3: I mean I think we get an award for the

1243
01:05:09,920 --> 01:05:13,320
Speaker 3: parent to adopt a nine year old. What a challenge,

1244
01:05:13,320 --> 01:05:17,200
Speaker 3: What an incredible thing to do. Incredible, incredible. I mean

1245
01:05:17,280 --> 01:05:20,280
Speaker 3: that said, he's kind of been mysteriously gone for a

1246
01:05:20,280 --> 01:05:22,280
Speaker 3: decade and shows up with a nine year old son,

1247
01:05:22,840 --> 01:05:26,160
Speaker 3: and we don't know what this meteorologist is up to.

1248
01:05:27,160 --> 01:05:29,160
Speaker 1: And I will say, I agree with you, this is

1249
01:05:29,200 --> 01:05:33,520
Speaker 1: such a beautiful thing to do. I will say, to

1250
01:05:33,600 --> 01:05:37,200
Speaker 1: have two parents named Matt have a nine year old son,

1251
01:05:37,320 --> 01:05:39,240
Speaker 1: and for the parents to be in their late twenties,

1252
01:05:39,800 --> 01:05:41,680
Speaker 1: that sounds like a Sims house. It sounds like a

1253
01:05:41,720 --> 01:05:48,560
Speaker 1: Sims house. I commend these people for what they've done,

1254
01:05:49,120 --> 01:05:53,320
Speaker 1: for literally saving a life, but I don't know. I

1255
01:05:53,360 --> 01:05:55,320
Speaker 1: don't know. But of course get the gift. But also

1256
01:05:55,320 --> 01:05:58,280
Speaker 1: if you're only on a casual sort of if you're

1257
01:05:58,320 --> 01:06:00,800
Speaker 1: only on casual terms with them still, I don't know

1258
01:06:00,840 --> 01:06:03,000
Speaker 1: that that's I feel like that's that's that's up to them.

1259
01:06:03,520 --> 01:06:05,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's up to Kevin. That's up to Kevin. It's

1260
01:06:05,480 --> 01:06:07,720
Speaker 3: up to Kevin. I mean, is the gift for the

1261
01:06:07,720 --> 01:06:09,640
Speaker 3: parents of the child. I think it's for both. I

1262
01:06:09,640 --> 01:06:12,240
Speaker 3: think actually this is way better than a baby situation,

1263
01:06:12,280 --> 01:06:14,160
Speaker 3: because like a nine year old you can zero in

1264
01:06:14,200 --> 01:06:15,800
Speaker 3: on a toy, you can do you know what, the

1265
01:06:15,800 --> 01:06:18,120
Speaker 3: baby you're getting onesies or whatever. That's just like the

1266
01:06:18,120 --> 01:06:22,240
Speaker 3: most boring shit I know, I know, Action figures, Pokemon.

1267
01:06:22,880 --> 01:06:24,760
Speaker 3: What is a nine year old like in twenty twenty two?

1268
01:06:25,520 --> 01:06:27,280
Speaker 1: See I see it? This is actually I do I

1269
01:06:27,480 --> 01:06:29,560
Speaker 1: I okay, So I'm glad you're getting guidance on this

1270
01:06:29,560 --> 01:06:31,960
Speaker 1: because I don't I think I have any on what

1271
01:06:31,960 --> 01:06:34,440
Speaker 1: a nine year old likes. I mean, I just assume.

1272
01:06:34,480 --> 01:06:37,200
Speaker 1: I just think back. I don't know.

1273
01:06:37,280 --> 01:06:41,720
Speaker 3: Nine year old's like toys, right, like Transformer. I mean,

1274
01:06:41,800 --> 01:06:44,680
Speaker 3: this person has been brought into this kind of bizarre

1275
01:06:45,920 --> 01:06:49,880
Speaker 3: Matt Matt marriage, so they're probably gonna need just some

1276
01:06:50,000 --> 01:06:52,880
Speaker 3: level of comfort and security.

1277
01:06:53,520 --> 01:06:58,320
Speaker 1: A book. No, see, I'm so bad at this sleeping now.

1278
01:06:58,800 --> 01:07:01,000
Speaker 3: Probably know that Mat and that have like a pile

1279
01:07:01,040 --> 01:07:03,080
Speaker 3: of hay for this kid to sleep on. Yes, how

1280
01:07:03,120 --> 01:07:05,840
Speaker 3: about a fun sleeping bag with the nine year old's

1281
01:07:05,840 --> 01:07:13,200
Speaker 3: favorite you know character? Man, Come on, Batman, Superman, We've

1282
01:07:13,240 --> 01:07:15,120
Speaker 3: got spider.

1283
01:07:14,720 --> 01:07:19,360
Speaker 1: Man, Lego, Yeah, oh, Lego, set a Lego said, Lego's

1284
01:07:19,400 --> 01:07:24,480
Speaker 1: great children love Lego. There you go, don't. Yeah, I

1285
01:07:25,000 --> 01:07:28,440
Speaker 1: feel like they can keep it simple. Ah were and

1286
01:07:28,480 --> 01:07:30,280
Speaker 1: then and then I guess Kevin's asking what about for

1287
01:07:30,360 --> 01:07:34,560
Speaker 1: the parents? Yeah, I guess for the parents honestly, you know,

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Speaker 1: you know what I say, Late twenties parents, nine year

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Speaker 1: old kid, You get him a switch. Everybody's having a

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Speaker 1: good time. Immediately, everyone's having a good time.

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Speaker 3: Yes, although it's just I feel like Kevin's a bad

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Speaker 3: I mean, let's just put it out there. Kevin is

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Speaker 3: a bad friend, He's been out of touch. He's obviously

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Speaker 3: jealous of the meteorology. Yeah, he's probably trying to break

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Speaker 3: this up to get to one of the Mats. Kevin

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Speaker 3: is obviously just behind in life.

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Speaker 1: Sure, yeah, what do you think? How do you think

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Speaker 1: Kevin started up this rekindling with Matt chance encounter, chance encounter.

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Speaker 3: It feels close to me that, you know, he was

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Speaker 3: probably like, you know, thumbing through a book at the

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Speaker 3: bookstore and like like see something come into his periphery

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Speaker 3: and it's like, oh, who is this?

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01:08:25,280 --> 01:08:26,920
Speaker 1: He looks up. It's Matt.

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Speaker 3: It's Matt, and then Matt immediately unloads. I just adopted

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Speaker 3: a nine year old. I need your help, and this

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01:08:35,640 --> 01:08:38,600
Speaker 3: is their best bet was to write into this podcast.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I feel like best wishes to the nine

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Speaker 3: year old. I feel like the three men in this

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Speaker 3: situation are deeply irresponsible.

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Speaker 1: You mean Kevin, mattin Mat or Matt Mat Kevin, Matt

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Speaker 1: and Matt. You mean, hey, great, great great.

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Speaker 3: They're obviously relying on me and you at this point

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Speaker 3: to salvage whatever this bizarre There was obviously some sort

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Speaker 3: of rift at some point the ten years Kevin. I mean,

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Speaker 3: God knows what's going to end up happening, but this

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Speaker 3: nine year old will make it out alive.

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Speaker 1: Get him a sleeping bag. Get him a sleeping bag.

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Speaker 1: Kids love sleeping bags. They do well, they'll they'll need

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Speaker 1: them at some point for the sleepovers that they go.

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Speaker 3: Right, you can write it down the stairs. Yes, makes

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Speaker 3: you feel like you're camping. You wake up covered and sweat. Ugh,

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Speaker 3: the best, the best.

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Speaker 1: I do want to again apologize for the Sims family

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Speaker 1: comment and just do you know what I mean? It's like,

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Speaker 1: I mean, it makes perfect and it is such a

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Speaker 1: beautiful radical image of a family that like I don't

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Speaker 1: mean to like completely make it something so alien like,

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Speaker 1: but like, you know, something not real. It is. I

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Speaker 1: just think it's like something that I would have dreamed

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Speaker 1: up when I was playing the Sims exactly.

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Speaker 3: It's one hundred percent that I mean. And then I

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Speaker 3: think that the real detail here is the Matt and

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Speaker 3: Mad of it.

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Speaker 1: Matt and Matt. You simply cannot marry someone with your

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Speaker 1: first name. People do it all the time, and yet

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Speaker 1: I still find some You've got to change something. I go, what, oh,

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Speaker 1: that's interesting, what's that about? You know?

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Speaker 3: I don't know, but we we appreciate it. I mean,

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Speaker 3: of course we love this situation. We love it for

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Speaker 3: the nine year old, We love it for Matt and Matt.

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Speaker 3: I think maybe one of these Mats becomes a mart

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Speaker 3: or A he gets into his Poka decks and changes

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Speaker 3: his name.

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Speaker 1: There you go, but he has to do it himself.

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Speaker 1: Oh wouldn't it be great if you, like, you know,

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Speaker 1: married someone and then they ask you, do you want

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Speaker 1: to change its name? Do you want to give it

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01:10:30,360 --> 01:10:33,840
Speaker 1: a nickname? I would love that.

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Speaker 3: To fall in love with somebody, be with them for years,

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Speaker 3: and then for them to ask you to change your name.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you just and then and then they do it.

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01:10:43,040 --> 01:10:43,800
Speaker 1: And then the.

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Speaker 3: Ultimate sign of love, the truest sacrifice, you give up

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Speaker 3: your identity, identity.

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Speaker 1: If if you love somebody enough, you would do that.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely bo When I'm so thrilled about this powder, I'm

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01:10:58,160 --> 01:11:01,040
Speaker 3: going to take a bath. Within the next it's probably

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01:11:01,080 --> 01:11:03,559
Speaker 3: been three weeks since my last bath. Within the next

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Speaker 3: two weeks, two weeks.

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Speaker 1: There you go. Perfect.

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Speaker 3: I've had such a wonderful time with you, so.

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Speaker 1: Have I really enjoy my conversations with.

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Speaker 3: You, and I guess this is the end of the podcast,

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01:11:14,200 --> 01:11:18,040
Speaker 3: the listener, You're free to do whatever you want. I

1365
01:11:18,080 --> 01:11:21,120
Speaker 3: have no control over you at this point. Go wild,

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Speaker 3: take care, I'll talk to you soon.

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Speaker 1: Bye bye.

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Speaker 3: I said, No Gifts is an exactly right production. It's

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Speaker 3: produced and engineered by our dear friend Anna Lisa Nelson,

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Speaker 3: and the theme song is by miracle worker Amy Mann.

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Speaker 3: You must follow the show on Instagram at I said

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Speaker 3: No Gifts, that's where you're going to see pictures of

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01:11:48,840 --> 01:11:50,719
Speaker 3: all these wonderful gifts I'm getting.

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Speaker 1: You have to see the gifts weevan, did you hear.

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Speaker 2: Funamin myself perfectly clear? When you're I guess to my home,

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01:12:06,680 --> 01:12:12,920
Speaker 2: you gotta come to me empty. And I said, no guess,

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Speaker 2: you're a presences presents and I already had too much stuff,

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Speaker 2: So how do you dare to surbey me