1 00:00:02,480 --> 00:00:03,040 Speaker 1: Good morning. 2 00:00:03,080 --> 00:00:05,920 Speaker 2: I'm Nathan Hager and I'm Karen Moscow. Here are the 3 00:00:05,960 --> 00:00:07,440 Speaker 2: stories we're following today. 4 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:11,160 Speaker 3: We begin with the fighting between Israel and Hamas. Israel 5 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:13,920 Speaker 3: is trying to maintain international support for its aim to 6 00:00:13,960 --> 00:00:17,799 Speaker 3: destroy the Palestinian militant group, but global leaders continue to 7 00:00:17,840 --> 00:00:22,200 Speaker 3: express concern about civilian lives. Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyah, 8 00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:25,360 Speaker 3: who had a fifty minute call yesterday with Russian President 9 00:00:25,480 --> 00:00:29,920 Speaker 3: Vladimir Putin, He criticized Israel for the humanitarian cost in Gaza, 10 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 3: while Netanyahu went after Russia over its cooperation with Iran. 11 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:37,640 Speaker 3: Secretary of State Anthony Blincoln says he is also urging 12 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:40,520 Speaker 3: Israel to do more to protect Palestinian civilians. 13 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:43,559 Speaker 4: There's a gap between the intent and the results, and 14 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:45,199 Speaker 4: that's the gap that we're trying to make sure it 15 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:48,360 Speaker 4: is closed. Look, this could be over tomorrow. This could 16 00:00:48,400 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 4: be over tomorrow if a moscot out of the way 17 00:00:51,159 --> 00:00:53,199 Speaker 4: of civilians instead of hiding behind them. 18 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:55,880 Speaker 3: Secretary of State Anthony blinkn spoke on ABC's This Week 19 00:00:55,960 --> 00:00:59,040 Speaker 3: Heard Sundays on Bloomberg Radio. The Hamas run Health Ministry 20 00:00:59,080 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 3: says nearly eighteen one thousand Palestinians have been killed in Gaza. 21 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:05,759 Speaker 3: It does not differentiate between civilian and combatant deaths. 22 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:09,240 Speaker 2: Well back at home, Nathan, President Biden's facing a waning 23 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:12,679 Speaker 2: support for his stance on Israel from within his own party. 24 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 2: A new poll from CBS News and you gov shows 25 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:18,760 Speaker 2: thirty eight percent of Democrats think the President has shown 26 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 2: too much support for Israel's war with Hamas. That's a 27 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 2: from twenty eight percent in October. Progressive Senator Bernie Sanders 28 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:28,479 Speaker 2: says the White House faces a tough balancing act. 29 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 5: What the President is trying to do is trying to 30 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 5: make clear to NEThing Yahoo and his right wing extremely 31 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:38,360 Speaker 5: extreme with government is yet, you can go to war 32 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:42,560 Speaker 5: against Kamak, but you cannot go to war against the 33 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 5: Palestinian people and cause the horrific damage to human life 34 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 5: that we are seeing right now. 35 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 2: Senator Bernie Sanders made the comments on Face the Nation 36 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:55,520 Speaker 2: from CBS, which you can hear every Sunday on Bloomberg 37 00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:56,160 Speaker 2: Radio I. 38 00:01:56,200 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 3: Meanwhile, Karen Top two universities remain under intense scrutiny for 39 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 3: their sponsors to anti Semitism on their campuses. University of 40 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 3: Pennsylvania President Liz McGill announced her resignation on Saturday, after 41 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:11,160 Speaker 3: her testimony last week to Congress, which she and the 42 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:14,920 Speaker 3: presidents of Harvard and MIT struggled to say directly that 43 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:18,720 Speaker 3: calling for the genocide of Jews violates school harassment policies. 44 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:22,079 Speaker 3: McGill will remain at Penn's Law school this tenured faculty. 45 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 3: Harvard's president has apologized for her testimony, while MIT says it. 46 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 1: Is currently standing by its president well Nathan. 47 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:32,360 Speaker 2: Turning to the world's other major conflict, in Ukraine, President 48 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:36,120 Speaker 2: Vladimir Zelenski will visit Washington tomorrow. He'll meet with President 49 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:39,120 Speaker 2: Biden and congressional leaders to push for continued support for 50 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:42,240 Speaker 2: his country's fight against Russia. But on Capitol Hill there 51 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 2: remains a big gap and talks over funding for both 52 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:47,680 Speaker 2: Ukraine and Israel, and Bloomberg's at Baxter joins us with 53 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:48,560 Speaker 2: those details. 54 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 6: The sticking point has been and still is aid for 55 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:55,520 Speaker 6: closing the US southern border. Lead Democrat negotiator Chris Murphy 56 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:58,840 Speaker 6: on NBC has heard on Bloomberg says dangerous. 57 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 7: Vladimir Putin is right now in Republicans insistence that we 58 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:05,680 Speaker 7: get a deal on immigration reform and if we don't, 59 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 7: then they are going to allow Vladimir Putin to march 60 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 7: into Ukraine and perhaps into Europe. I think this is 61 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 7: one of the most dangerous moments that I've ever faced 62 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:14,640 Speaker 7: in American politics. 63 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 6: Murphy says, they are still in the room trying, but 64 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 6: it is difficult. Meanwhile, the White House says it has 65 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:23,760 Speaker 6: found a way to send some tank supplies to Israel. 66 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:26,799 Speaker 1: Ed Baxter Bloomberg Radio, Okay and thanks. 67 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:29,560 Speaker 3: We're also following politics in New York City, where former 68 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:32,280 Speaker 3: President Donald Trump says he will not testify in his 69 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 3: civil fraud trial today. 70 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 1: This is a reversal for Trump. 71 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 3: Heed earlier said he would testify a second time in 72 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 3: the case that accuses the Trump organization of inflating asset 73 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 3: values to get better loan terms. 74 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 2: Well, Nathan to markets now, and a big week for 75 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:49,400 Speaker 2: the economy. We get the November Consumer Price Index tomorrow. 76 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:52,280 Speaker 2: Producer Price Index comes out on Wednesday, and it comes 77 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 2: as the final FED meeting of the year gets under way. 78 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 2: Well here from veed cher Jerown Powell on Wednesday as well, 79 00:03:57,800 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 2: and former Treasury Secretary Larry Summers. It could be a 80 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:03,240 Speaker 2: while before Powell signals he's cutting rates. 81 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:08,240 Speaker 8: The moment they turn or announce they're going to turn, 82 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 8: is going to be a seismic moment, and for that reason, 83 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:18,760 Speaker 8: they probably need to be very deliberative and careful about 84 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 8: getting to that point and waiting until they see some 85 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 8: overwhelming evidence of inflation being locked in low or see 86 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:36,159 Speaker 8: some real evidence of the economy turning over. 87 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:39,920 Speaker 2: Former Treasury Secretary Larry Summers is speaking on Bloomberg's Wall 88 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 2: Street Week, which you can hear every Friday evening on 89 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:44,040 Speaker 2: Bloomberg Radio and television. 90 00:04:44,279 --> 00:04:47,240 Speaker 3: In corporate news, Macy says it has received a five 91 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 3: point eight billion dollar buyout offer from Arc House Management 92 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:53,320 Speaker 3: and Brigade Capital Management. It's about the retailer can execute 93 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 3: it's turnaround better as a private firm. Source to say 94 00:04:56,279 --> 00:04:59,279 Speaker 3: investors offered twenty one dollars a share for the department 95 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:03,080 Speaker 3: store giant. These shares have fallen sixteen percent this year. 96 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:06,920 Speaker 2: We also have economic news in Japan. Nathan Bloomberg News 97 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 2: is reporting the Bank of japan' sees little need to 98 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:12,800 Speaker 2: end its monetary policy of negative interest rates. Sources the 99 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:15,599 Speaker 2: officials have yet to see enough evidence of wage growth 100 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:19,719 Speaker 2: to support sustainable inflation. It contradicts the market's recent view 101 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:23,000 Speaker 2: that the BOJ could scrap negative rates this month, and. 102 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:26,720 Speaker 3: In sports news, sources say a Fenway Sports Group consortium 103 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:29,440 Speaker 3: was chosen to enter into final negotiations to be a 104 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:31,520 Speaker 3: co investor in the entity that's being formed by the 105 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:36,159 Speaker 3: PGA Tour and Saudi Arabia's public investment fund. PGA Tour 106 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:39,880 Speaker 3: Policy Board unanimously decided to work with Strategic Sports Group, 107 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 3: which includes New York Mets owner Steve Cohen's family office 108 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:46,520 Speaker 3: and billionaire Mark Lazry. Over the weekend, Saudi Arabia signed 109 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:49,160 Speaker 3: one of the world's top golfers, John Rahm. 110 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:50,880 Speaker 1: To its Live Golf League. 111 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:52,920 Speaker 3: Now, let's get a check out what else is happening 112 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:55,680 Speaker 3: in the world. For that, we turned to Bloomberg's Amy Morris. 113 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:57,120 Speaker 3: Good morning, Amy, Good. 114 00:05:56,880 --> 00:05:58,679 Speaker 1: Morning, Nathan. Restrictions are in place. 115 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 9: More precautions are being taken because of the stormy weather 116 00:06:01,839 --> 00:06:05,120 Speaker 9: moving through the Northeast region. Empty tractor trailers and tandem 117 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 9: trucks on MTA bridges and tunnels are scheduled to be 118 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:10,880 Speaker 9: banned on MPTA bridges and tunnels until six this morning. 119 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 9: Governor Hochel is warning residents to stay alert, saying that 120 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:16,839 Speaker 9: in some areas. The rain is changing to wet heavy 121 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:19,680 Speaker 9: snow now. That stormy weather also moved through the southern 122 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 9: United States over the weekend, creating powerful tornadoes and causing 123 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:27,920 Speaker 9: a lot of damage. Tennessee Governor Bilde says charities are 124 00:06:27,960 --> 00:06:31,200 Speaker 9: already stepping in and he is asking the federal government 125 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:31,600 Speaker 9: for help. 126 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:36,680 Speaker 6: We also, of course, have begun the formal process of 127 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:40,719 Speaker 6: emergency declaration and of pursuing. 128 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 1: Relief through that federal government. 129 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:47,480 Speaker 9: Six people died at least three dozen were hurt in 130 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:51,279 Speaker 9: those tornadoes that touch down in Tennessee. In a new 131 00:06:51,320 --> 00:06:55,320 Speaker 9: court filing, Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton says a mother 132 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:58,160 Speaker 9: of two should be forced to carry her baby to term, 133 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:02,479 Speaker 9: even after doctors say there are severe risks involved. Paxton 134 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:06,080 Speaker 9: won a temporary restraining order against Kate Cox, stopping her 135 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:09,239 Speaker 9: from carrying out her abortion after doctors set her twenty 136 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:12,760 Speaker 9: week fetus has a severe abnormality and no chance of survival. 137 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 9: Jonathan Stone is a special counsel for the Texas Attorney General, 138 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 9: linus have not. 139 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 1: Shown that they will suffer an im media interrreparable injury. 140 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:22,480 Speaker 9: Both sides of the debate rallied this weekend outside the 141 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 9: Texas Supreme Court protester Karen Bergman expressed her main concern. 142 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:31,760 Speaker 4: Remade control of reproduction always tortures women, and we can't 143 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 4: have it. 144 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:35,120 Speaker 9: They're hoping the State Supreme Court issues its final ruling soon. 145 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 9: As the Israel Hamas war drags on, protesters around the 146 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:41,600 Speaker 9: world continue to call for a permanent cease fire. In 147 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:45,280 Speaker 9: New York City, pro Palestinian protesters stormed the Brooklyn Bridge 148 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:49,640 Speaker 9: Saturday night, temporarily shutting the Manhattan bound side down all 149 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 9: part of the flood of Brooklyn. For Palestine. Protest demonstrator 150 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:57,400 Speaker 9: Amal Colleen, the point is everybody, any mother, any mother 151 00:07:57,480 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 9: in this world, will ask season to cease fire. 152 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:02,360 Speaker 1: Coast kids, babies, babies are killed. 153 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:05,840 Speaker 9: The UN Secretary General warn of a historic and catastrophic 154 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:10,760 Speaker 9: humanitarian crisis in Gaza without a ceasefire. Global News twenty 155 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 9: four hours a day and whenever you want it with 156 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 9: Bloomberg News. 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Jets and Texans combined 175 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 11: for eleven first half punts and no points. And then 176 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:18,680 Speaker 11: suddenly the Jets, who in their five game losing streak 177 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 11: and scored only forty five points total, put up thirty 178 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 11: three touchdowns three field goals. They beat Houston thirty to six. 179 00:09:24,640 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 11: Zach Wilson was on fire twenty seven of thirty six 180 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:28,680 Speaker 11: three hundred yards. 181 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 1: His coach is Rob Salam I. 182 00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:33,600 Speaker 12: Thought Zach probably played the best game of his career. 183 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:37,319 Speaker 12: Just the off schedule stuff. The timing and rhythm and 184 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:38,960 Speaker 12: getting the ball out to where it needed to get to, 185 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 12: being aggressive but smart at the same time scrambled. I 186 00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:45,079 Speaker 12: know he had the scramble, but just the aggressiveness of 187 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:46,800 Speaker 12: scramble and the I mean he was out there having 188 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:47,320 Speaker 12: a good time. 189 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:49,240 Speaker 11: And I think there was a report that Wilson, who 190 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 11: had been benched two week fire, didn't want to play 191 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:55,200 Speaker 11: big AFC game in Kansas City, Buffalo won twenty to seventeen. 192 00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:57,839 Speaker 11: The Chief for a moment appeared to have gone ahead 193 00:09:57,840 --> 00:09:59,400 Speaker 11: with a minute left on what would have been the 194 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 11: NFL's Players Play of the Year, a Travis Kelce catch, 195 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 11: run and lateral throw at Cadarius Tony, but Tony had 196 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:10,600 Speaker 11: lined up offside. 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Good morning. 212 00:10:59,559 --> 00:11:03,040 Speaker 3: I'm n Israel's war with Hamas is turning into a 213 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 3: fight to maintain international support as much as it is 214 00:11:06,080 --> 00:11:09,679 Speaker 3: about defeating the militant group in Gaza. The US just 215 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:13,920 Speaker 3: defeated a UN Security Council resolution calling for an immediate Ceaspire. 216 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:17,520 Speaker 3: But the latest polling in this country shows President Biden's 217 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:20,320 Speaker 3: support for Israel's fight maybe turning into even more of 218 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:24,959 Speaker 3: a political liability for the president from within his own party. 219 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 3: And for more on all this, we're joined by Bloomberg 220 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:30,560 Speaker 3: News Senior editor Bill Ferries. Bill, it's good to speak 221 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:32,720 Speaker 3: with you this morning. We are more than two months 222 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:37,800 Speaker 3: into this war Israel seems relentless in its determination to 223 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:42,199 Speaker 3: defeat Hamas. But that is creating this international pushback. 224 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:45,840 Speaker 14: Now you're exactly right. 225 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:50,280 Speaker 15: I mean, as you mentioned, the US vetoed this resolution 226 00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:52,560 Speaker 15: at the United Nations that was going to call for 227 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:56,439 Speaker 15: an immediate seaspire. The amazing or remarkable thing about it 228 00:11:56,520 --> 00:11:59,960 Speaker 15: was the US was the only country on that council 229 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:03,080 Speaker 15: to vote against it. And it's this is not you know, 230 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:06,920 Speaker 15: loaded with opponents of the United States. You've got You've 231 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:09,520 Speaker 15: got France, and you've got the UK. You've got countries 232 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:12,840 Speaker 15: like Japan and UH and even Ghana on there. 233 00:12:12,920 --> 00:12:13,640 Speaker 14: So it's UH. 234 00:12:14,640 --> 00:12:17,360 Speaker 15: I think at this point it's the US, UH and 235 00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:22,480 Speaker 15: Israel that look increasingly isolated internationally as this continues, the 236 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:26,120 Speaker 15: US saying it's really Israel has to has to run 237 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:29,480 Speaker 15: this war UH on its own terms and go after Hamas. 238 00:12:29,960 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 10: UH. 239 00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:33,200 Speaker 15: The US has obviously expressed a lot of frustration about 240 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:36,480 Speaker 15: the civilian death toll, and that's driving a lot of 241 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:40,079 Speaker 15: the international frustration. But I don't think the UH, the US, 242 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:44,800 Speaker 15: the Biden administration is interested in really cutting Israel off 243 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:48,040 Speaker 15: on its own and UH and and demanding that ceasefire 244 00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:49,720 Speaker 15: along with the rest of the international community. 245 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:53,079 Speaker 14: But it's something that is going to potentially hit President 246 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:55,000 Speaker 14: Biden as he heads into an election year. 247 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:58,240 Speaker 3: I mean, that is just a remarkable statement on its 248 00:12:58,280 --> 00:13:01,720 Speaker 3: own to say that the US and Israel are being 249 00:13:01,840 --> 00:13:05,320 Speaker 3: viewed as increasingly isolated on the global stage, and you 250 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:09,720 Speaker 3: have to wonder whether that support that the President has 251 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:12,400 Speaker 3: continued to show for Israel is going to be able 252 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:15,320 Speaker 3: to be maintained when we have the kind of polling 253 00:13:15,360 --> 00:13:18,800 Speaker 3: that we've seen from just this past weekend from CBS 254 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:24,319 Speaker 3: News and you gov that democratic opposition to the president's 255 00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 3: stance in regards to Israel is growing. 256 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:31,120 Speaker 14: Right, You kind of wonder what the tipping point might be. 257 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:37,160 Speaker 15: But what we a remarkable comment we got from Anthony 258 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:40,760 Speaker 15: Blincoln as well over the weekend was that he doesn't 259 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:43,600 Speaker 15: see some of the precautions that he's argued for in 260 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:48,559 Speaker 15: terms of protecting civilians being carried out. So there's definitely 261 00:13:48,559 --> 00:13:51,400 Speaker 15: been a lot of warning shots sent to Israel from 262 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:55,480 Speaker 15: the US, but they are sticking. The Biden administration is 263 00:13:55,480 --> 00:13:59,240 Speaker 15: sticking with Israel for now. But heading into twenty twenty four, 264 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:04,559 Speaker 15: I think think the monetary costs of sustaining US support 265 00:14:04,679 --> 00:14:08,000 Speaker 15: and obviously the costs on the battlefield, both on the 266 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:11,719 Speaker 15: Israeli side and the Palestinian side, will only continue to 267 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:12,199 Speaker 15: add up. 268 00:14:13,640 --> 00:14:15,480 Speaker 3: So what are you going to be looking for next 269 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:19,680 Speaker 3: Bill when it comes to how this war is playing out? 270 00:14:20,160 --> 00:14:22,560 Speaker 3: I mean, from some of the latest reporting, we're seeing 271 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:27,200 Speaker 3: the conflict is really spread out across the Gaza strip 272 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:28,240 Speaker 3: at this point. 273 00:14:29,800 --> 00:14:32,600 Speaker 15: Right, I think you know, I think you we're still 274 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:35,600 Speaker 15: looking for signs that at some point could there be 275 00:14:35,680 --> 00:14:39,960 Speaker 15: a second temporary cease fire that allows more hostages to 276 00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:44,239 Speaker 15: be freed. I think that's something both sides that at 277 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 15: some point in the last you know, in the recent 278 00:14:46,400 --> 00:14:48,800 Speaker 15: week or two have talked about. But it doesn't sound 279 00:14:48,880 --> 00:14:52,400 Speaker 15: like what we're hearing from the mediators and Cutter that 280 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:55,200 Speaker 15: that's they're making much progress on that. But that certainly 281 00:14:55,240 --> 00:14:58,200 Speaker 15: I think, you know, Israelis have said they would really 282 00:14:58,240 --> 00:15:01,040 Speaker 15: like to see all those hostages returned, So there's always 283 00:15:01,040 --> 00:15:03,000 Speaker 15: a chance I think you could have a breakthrough there, 284 00:15:03,640 --> 00:15:06,040 Speaker 15: and then I think you're gonna You're gonna keep watching 285 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:09,080 Speaker 15: this this death toll. We do get their questions about 286 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:12,880 Speaker 15: the total death toll in Gaza, but uh, they are 287 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:17,680 Speaker 15: the numbers we have. As that continues to rise. Will 288 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:20,680 Speaker 15: there be you know, will for public frustration hit a 289 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:25,360 Speaker 15: tipping point where more direct warnings are raised with Israel 290 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:27,920 Speaker 15: about how long they can prolong this conflict. 291 00:15:28,160 --> 00:15:32,960 Speaker 3: I wonder whether the UH debate around support for Ukraine, 292 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:35,880 Speaker 3: which has already gotten more complicated, is going to come 293 00:15:35,880 --> 00:15:39,600 Speaker 3: into a greater focus now when we're expecting the President 294 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:43,120 Speaker 3: of Ukraine to be in person in Washington tomorrow. 295 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:44,760 Speaker 10: Yeah. 296 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:48,240 Speaker 15: I think that's a high stakes trip for President Zelenski 297 00:15:48,400 --> 00:15:50,840 Speaker 15: coming to Washington to meet with President Biden and to 298 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:52,360 Speaker 15: meet with congressional leaders. 299 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:55,440 Speaker 14: UH. He plans to address the entire Senate. 300 00:15:56,160 --> 00:15:58,480 Speaker 15: I think it's it's hard to imagine a lot of 301 00:15:58,480 --> 00:16:02,440 Speaker 15: people changing their minds at this point as they run 302 00:16:02,560 --> 00:16:07,040 Speaker 15: up against this issue about spending for Ukraine and policies 303 00:16:07,040 --> 00:16:09,800 Speaker 15: at the border. Something is going to have to give there, 304 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:13,280 Speaker 15: potentially by Friday or Saturday this week, if the White 305 00:16:13,480 --> 00:16:16,120 Speaker 15: White House wants to see any of that funding approved, 306 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:20,000 Speaker 15: and if they want and if Republicans want to some 307 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:22,960 Speaker 15: of whom support Ukraine want to go home for the 308 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:25,600 Speaker 15: holiday break having done more to secure the border. 309 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:28,880 Speaker 3: Okay, Bill, thanks for this as always. Bill Ferries, Senior 310 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:33,480 Speaker 3: editor for Bloomberg News, with us this morning, Karen Well Nathan. 311 00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:37,720 Speaker 2: We turned now from geopolitics to a focus on artificial intelligence, 312 00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:40,360 Speaker 2: and Bloomberg's Tom mackenzie got a chance to catch up 313 00:16:40,400 --> 00:16:43,400 Speaker 2: with ARMED CEO re Day Haas. The pairs spoke about 314 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:46,720 Speaker 2: the company's future and the generative AI revolution and how 315 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:50,120 Speaker 2: Hass's role has changed since arms public listing. 316 00:16:50,680 --> 00:16:54,000 Speaker 16: We've been public now for a few months. Yeah, so 317 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:55,840 Speaker 16: I would say I feel like the eyes are upon 318 00:16:55,880 --> 00:16:59,400 Speaker 16: me a little bit more than they were prior. But 319 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:01,760 Speaker 16: on the other and I try to think about it 320 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:05,480 Speaker 16: in terms of the future of roment is really not 321 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:07,040 Speaker 16: measured in what we are today. It's what we're going 322 00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:08,000 Speaker 16: to be in a few years. 323 00:17:08,040 --> 00:17:11,280 Speaker 17: And how do you balance the demands of investors in 324 00:17:11,320 --> 00:17:14,240 Speaker 17: the company now, those new investors and the legacy investors 325 00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:18,159 Speaker 17: and of course Massi Orshuysan SoftBank being the big force, 326 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:21,480 Speaker 17: gravitational force, So how do you balance those demands. 327 00:17:21,880 --> 00:17:24,040 Speaker 16: So ARM is really a company that it's hard to 328 00:17:24,040 --> 00:17:27,480 Speaker 16: look at quarter to quarter because the technology we're working 329 00:17:27,560 --> 00:17:30,639 Speaker 16: on today is really technology that's going to end up 330 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:33,080 Speaker 16: in products three years from now, four years from now. 331 00:17:33,119 --> 00:17:36,080 Speaker 16: So while the financial results are important, they're really the 332 00:17:36,119 --> 00:17:38,560 Speaker 16: results of strategies we put in place a number of 333 00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:40,600 Speaker 16: years ago, which we're quite successful. This is what we 334 00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:42,520 Speaker 16: try to do is just make sure that the investors 335 00:17:42,600 --> 00:17:45,560 Speaker 16: understand that while the near term results are very important, 336 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:47,840 Speaker 16: it's really also important to really think about the long 337 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:49,280 Speaker 16: term and where we're going directionally. 338 00:17:49,359 --> 00:17:51,439 Speaker 18: But ARM was set up in the nineteen nineties, You've 339 00:17:51,480 --> 00:17:52,480 Speaker 18: been the building. 340 00:17:52,119 --> 00:17:56,840 Speaker 17: Blocks of our digital globe, digital world, digital economy since then. 341 00:17:57,520 --> 00:17:59,840 Speaker 17: And now at this point where we're focused on generative 342 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:03,159 Speaker 17: AI and that is reshaping this digital ecosystem that we 343 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:05,000 Speaker 17: now live. 344 00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:06,040 Speaker 18: In or that we will be living on. 345 00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:11,399 Speaker 17: What role do you see ARM playing in that transformed 346 00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:13,399 Speaker 17: digital space in the years ahead. 347 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:16,560 Speaker 16: Yeah, So, ARM in the thirty plus years has just 348 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:20,240 Speaker 16: been foundational to computing in a way that no other 349 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:23,439 Speaker 16: computer architecture before it, and I dare say after it 350 00:18:23,480 --> 00:18:27,239 Speaker 16: has been seventy percent of the world's population touches ARM 351 00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:31,200 Speaker 16: today in some way. We were well known for smartphones 352 00:18:32,119 --> 00:18:34,960 Speaker 16: and for that non smartphones, feature phones, if you will. 353 00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:38,160 Speaker 16: The ARM of today is not only much more diversified 354 00:18:38,200 --> 00:18:42,159 Speaker 16: around as I mentioned before, data centers, automotive, IoT, but 355 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:45,400 Speaker 16: now as AI and AI workloads are finding their way 356 00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:49,640 Speaker 16: into every single application, whether it's your thermostat or your 357 00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:52,639 Speaker 16: data center, ARM will be there. So I think for 358 00:18:52,800 --> 00:18:54,840 Speaker 16: us in the upcoming years and decades, ARM will be 359 00:18:54,880 --> 00:18:56,600 Speaker 16: foundational to everything going on with AI. 360 00:18:56,880 --> 00:18:59,520 Speaker 17: So you can assure investors that you will remain you 361 00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:01,120 Speaker 17: were sent right now. 362 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:03,160 Speaker 18: To this digital world that we live in. You will be. 363 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:08,200 Speaker 17: Essential in that generative AI reshaped world in the years ahead. 364 00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:09,520 Speaker 18: You will continue to play that as s. 365 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:11,480 Speaker 10: You can't run AI without armor. 366 00:19:11,800 --> 00:19:14,680 Speaker 16: It's foundational, and AI is going to find its way 367 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:18,600 Speaker 16: into every single electronics device that we use. Again, whether 368 00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:21,240 Speaker 16: it's the smallest device in your home or the largest 369 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:23,679 Speaker 16: data center that sits out in the out in the wild. 370 00:19:23,880 --> 00:19:27,000 Speaker 17: Every AI executive that I speak to, whether it's deep 371 00:19:27,080 --> 00:19:30,840 Speaker 17: mind or coher or inflection or others, say, the scramble 372 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:33,840 Speaker 17: for compute is front and center along with the fight 373 00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:36,879 Speaker 17: for talents. How do you see that fight for compute 374 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:37,560 Speaker 17: going forward? 375 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:39,560 Speaker 16: I do think for the next number of years we 376 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:42,800 Speaker 16: are going to see a increasing demand for more and 377 00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:46,480 Speaker 16: more compute. Now, I think it's also going to drive 378 00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:49,880 Speaker 16: is a high degree of need for power efficiency because 379 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:54,159 Speaker 16: these data centers require hundreds of watts megawatts up to 380 00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:57,159 Speaker 16: the gigawatts of type of energy. We don't produce that 381 00:19:57,240 --> 00:20:02,320 Speaker 16: much energy as a planet. Limitations relative to fossil fuels, 382 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:04,080 Speaker 16: limitations su sustainable. 383 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 10: So a rush to get to power. 384 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:10,159 Speaker 16: Efficiency around these compute models is going to be very, 385 00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:13,720 Speaker 16: very significant. That's great for ARM because the DNA of 386 00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:16,600 Speaker 16: our company is around power efficiency. I want to go 387 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:19,920 Speaker 16: back to twenty seventeen. You diversified the business. You broke 388 00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:25,760 Speaker 16: out these four different divisions IoT, cloud, infrastructure, autonomous vehicles. 389 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:28,359 Speaker 18: Why did you see that as necessary? 390 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:31,399 Speaker 16: You us to twenty seventeen, we would design a mobile 391 00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:35,479 Speaker 16: processor and then really attempt to squeeze it or peanut 392 00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:38,480 Speaker 16: butter it, if you will, into the server space, or 393 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:41,119 Speaker 16: into the automotive space, or into different areas of IoT. 394 00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:43,920 Speaker 16: It just wasn't sufficient, and we had a lot of 395 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:46,960 Speaker 16: questions early on, why isn't what's taking ARMS so long 396 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:51,080 Speaker 16: to be successful in the servers. Many different reasons contributed that, 397 00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:52,920 Speaker 16: but one of them was candidly, we just didn't have 398 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:56,160 Speaker 16: the right products, and we were able to create neoverse. 399 00:20:56,200 --> 00:20:59,439 Speaker 16: We were able to add custom extensions, things like confidential 400 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:03,640 Speaker 16: compute that are necessary for building high grade data centers. 401 00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:06,840 Speaker 16: We could put those in the products, and now with neoverse, 402 00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:10,280 Speaker 16: we have a world class competitive entry that you're seeing 403 00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:13,720 Speaker 16: the benefits of it, whether it's the Microsoft, Cobalt or AWS. 404 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:17,000 Speaker 16: We had to do that in twenty seventeen because it 405 00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:20,080 Speaker 16: was clear that these other markets were demanding it and 406 00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:22,719 Speaker 16: the selfware ecosystem needed to be able to support it. 407 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:25,400 Speaker 17: What kind of revenue mix would you need to see 408 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:29,439 Speaker 17: to kind of declare a success in that diversification push. 409 00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:32,080 Speaker 10: I'm going to declare some modicum of success now. 410 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:35,600 Speaker 16: We were over sixty percent revenue in smartphones, maybe even 411 00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:40,040 Speaker 16: higher prior to this change. 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