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Speaker 1: best of the Colin Coward Podcast. Great week. Buccaneer head

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Speaker 1: coach Bruce arians terrific conversation. Talked about the real perk

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Speaker 1: of coaching Tom Brady and the story when Patrick Mahomes

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Speaker 1: blew his mind at a pre draft workout. Nick Wright

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Speaker 1: and I talked about two of the NBA's biggest question marks,

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Speaker 1: Kyrie Irving and Russell Westbrook and Chad Millman and our

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Speaker 1: best bets. NFL Week seven. It is a turbulent Week seven,

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Speaker 1: but first my top takes of the week. All sports

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Speaker 1: leagues copy each other to some degree. They steal little ideas.

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Speaker 1: The NFL stole some of the Instagram and social media

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Speaker 1: momentum the NBA had. They lightened up the post touchdown

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Speaker 1: celebrations for players. Let players do dances, and they've been

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Speaker 1: rewarded by it. They get a lot more free pub

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Speaker 1: a lot more love on social media for younger consumers.

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Speaker 1: The NBA, which is consumed with being cool, could do

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Speaker 1: themselves a favor and borrow something from the NFL, and

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Speaker 1: that would be a backbone. There's only four hundred and

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Speaker 1: fifty roughly current NBA players, but you have three stars

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Speaker 1: and James Harden with Houston last year that have gone

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Speaker 1: total diva and held their team's hostage. The NFL has

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Speaker 1: over four times as many current players, and there is

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Speaker 1: not a single advantage of a player going al diva.

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Speaker 1: Why because the NFL doesn't tolerate it. The NFL doesn't

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Speaker 1: coddle the football culture in America. You can be in

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Speaker 1: vaxed like Josh Allen. You can be a conservative like

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Speaker 1: team if you take a more conservative worldview. I have

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Speaker 1: lots of friends that work in the NFL and lots

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Speaker 1: of friends that work in the NBA, and my NFL

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Speaker 1: friends are overwhelmingly happier people. I know two NBA beat

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Speaker 1: writers who quit this past year, really talented, one covering

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Speaker 1: the Warriors, one covering the Oklahoma City Thunder. You have

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Speaker 1: to align in the NBA with players beliefs, which is

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Speaker 1: due broadcasters do executives do. In fact, they're sort of

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Speaker 1: an inside joke. NBA head coach is the world's worst

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Speaker 1: great job. So the NBA and the basketball culture in

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Speaker 1: general in America is about coddling. Ben Simmons has been

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Speaker 1: coddled at AU, coddled at LSU, coddled his first several

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Speaker 1: is where the NBA really struggles. I'm all for players

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Speaker 1: for the executives, football or basketball for the executives. That

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Speaker 1: doesn't mean I relinquish total power to the labor force,

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Speaker 1: to kids. What you're seeing in the NBA is a

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Speaker 1: result of how basketball's culture is shaped and how basketball

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Speaker 1: stars are coddled. Three stars last year have held their

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Speaker 1: team's high hostage. You know, when you're coddled as a

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Speaker 1: perspective or self awareness. You know, Matthew McConaughey, for years

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Speaker 1: So he did the Dallas Buyers Club. He had to

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Speaker 1: a self awareness to know and acknowledge I'm not taken

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Speaker 1: what happens to James Harden, what happens to Kyrie Irving,

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Speaker 1: They don't understand the architecture of a business, in architecture

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Speaker 1: the highest of levels, but you can't let the employees

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Speaker 1: The media is rooting overwhelmingly against urban Meyer. They don't

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Speaker 1: urban Meyer, out coach Brian Flores. I watched every snap

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Speaker 1: He was fine. Urban Meyer out coach Brian Flores with

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Speaker 1: urban Meyer out coaching Brian Flores, and I understand that

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Speaker 1: And I'm not saying he's a top ten fifteen coach.

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Speaker 1: But Belichick can't win now, Okay, Belichick can't win. Now.

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Speaker 1: You need a quarterback, you need personnel. New England doesn't

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Speaker 1: me defend Urban Meyer. The football part is not the

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Speaker 1: You have to coach NFL players differently. I don't think

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Speaker 1: when I watched them play, they're competitive. They're as competitive

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Speaker 1: just perpetually happy, aren't you. That's that time you're going

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Speaker 1: you can lighten up Tom's intense. But Bruce, it looks

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Speaker 1: You know, Bruce were you will read it all that.

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Speaker 1: for Tommy's intensity? Was there ever a moment you worried

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Speaker 1: But the one thing about Tom I didn't know how

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Speaker 1: it made it easier for you? Do you find yourself

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Speaker 1: going from I'm a coach. I mean, you're always coaching,

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Speaker 1: but sometimes you're almost now managing because Tom does is

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Speaker 1: You know what I mean. It's interesting you've built it's

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Speaker 1: Brown Well documented had some issues before Tampa. Did you

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Speaker 1: and Tom you trusted Tom? Tom trusted ab. Was that

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Speaker 1: a difficult acquisition? Was that a difficult moment? Did you

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Speaker 1: have long discussions on you know, Tom tends to put

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Speaker 1: give guys second You'll give guys second chances. Was the

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Speaker 1: had a great conversation with him. Obviously, are you knew

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Speaker 1: know it's I tell friends the draft outside of the season,

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Speaker 1: I love college football. I can make it. I make

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Speaker 1: I don't know why it is. Maybe it's the culture.

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Speaker 1: It matters more to them. But when you do you

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Speaker 1: are you looking for a different kind of player offensively

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Speaker 1: to have a little dynamite in him, like he's okay

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Speaker 1: to just lead head first. Are there different personalities for

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Speaker 1: Jordan right, he played great there. But I thought to myself,

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Speaker 1: with Russell Westbrook is, I actually think he works for

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Speaker 1: the Lakers. They need thirty seven minutes tonight, they need energy.

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Speaker 1: It's an old roster. I actually thought to myself, you

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Speaker 1: know what if he plays here three years and I

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Speaker 1: think he can add he can be a little bit

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Speaker 1: like a more talented Alex Caruso. He gives you incredible intensity.

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Speaker 1: He'll get along with Lebron. He's a good hang that

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Speaker 1: you know, the part of this league is are you

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Speaker 1: a good hang? But I just I felt kind of

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Speaker 1: sympathy when he said I think I'm in the league's villain,

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Speaker 1: and I thought, that's usually like a guy who gets

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Speaker 1: into fights or he's a jerk, And I'm like, Russell's

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Speaker 1: not a jerk. He's a flawed player, right, So that's

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Speaker 1: I think an important distinction. He's never been in trouble,

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Speaker 1: He's never been a bad never He's one of the

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Speaker 1: few NBA super duperstars that doesn't have like a big

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Speaker 1: group of people around him. By the way, now there's

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Speaker 1: anything wrong with it, but like people, you know, it's

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Speaker 1: his wife. I think it's his brother. You know, he

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Speaker 1: has a very small circle sums intense family guy and

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Speaker 1: a private guy. Who's the only thing we know about

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Speaker 1: him off the court is he's super into fashion. Now

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Speaker 1: people might not like his fashion. I think it's I

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Speaker 1: think he's pretty courageous with it, to be honest, I

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Speaker 1: think he takes risks to it that and I think

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Speaker 1: that's cool. But yeah, so Russ has Russ has always

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Speaker 1: been a guy who is polarizing because of his style,

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Speaker 1: and he has there is a lot of iverson to him,

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Speaker 1: and that there are some deeply devoted fans that ignore

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Speaker 1: some of the pretty obvious flaws in the game. But

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Speaker 1: then the flip side of that is the analytics community

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Speaker 1: that will argue that iverson, you know, the analytics crush

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Speaker 1: iverson and that does at some point what the guys

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Speaker 1: who play the games say about someone has to matter

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Speaker 1: at least a little. And when they like, you don't understand, no,

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Speaker 1: because let me, I'm putting this wrong, analytics say, well,

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Speaker 1: if anyone put up that many shots, they would score

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Speaker 1: a ton of points. And when the players say is yeah,

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Speaker 1: but most guys literally can't put up that many shots.

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Speaker 1: They don't have the stamina. They don't they do you

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Speaker 1: know how hard it is to shoot the ball thirty times.

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Speaker 1: And so with Russ, people are like, oh, you know,

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Speaker 1: if anyone was really focused on getting triple doubles, my

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Speaker 1: argument would be I would imagine in the last forty

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Speaker 1: years there have been other guys who are like, I'd

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Speaker 1: like to get triple doubles, but nobody's gotten them at

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Speaker 1: the rate of Russ anywhere close to it since Oscar Robertson.

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Speaker 1: So clearly there's some things he does well, and clearly

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Speaker 1: he's a special player. He also is if he's your

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Speaker 1: best guy, you're screwed. The Lakers are trying to figure out,

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Speaker 1: and Russ has never been in this position, is what

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Speaker 1: if he's your third best guy. We've seen him as

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Speaker 1: the second best guy, and it was really good a

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Speaker 1: couple of years, but usually more bad than good, or

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Speaker 1: mediocre than good. We've seen him as the best guy.

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Speaker 1: It's entertaining, it's exciting, but you're not going to be good.

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Speaker 1: Now we get to see him as your third best guy,

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Speaker 1: and that's fascinating to me, especially if he's never been

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Speaker 1: on a team with someone with a stronger personality. I

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Speaker 1: think he is now. I think Lebron, even if it's

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Speaker 1: a different look. Lebron is such a gravitational pull of

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Speaker 1: leadership that I think even the biggest alpha's kind of understand,

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Speaker 1: all right, I'm not Lebron. I might be that. I

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Speaker 1: might not, you know, get checked by anyone else in

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Speaker 1: the league. Kevin Durant, I wouldn't let him say it.

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Speaker 1: Sideway's word to me, but Lebron's almost in a different category.

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Speaker 1: So I do think that it can work. I do

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Speaker 1: I think it's guaranteed to work. No, And do I

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Speaker 1: think that there's a chance that the Lakers simply not

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Speaker 1: have enough shooting. Yeah, that's possible. But it's also possible

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Speaker 1: that they're going to be big and strong, and because

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Speaker 1: of Russ, they're gonna have not only they're not only

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Speaker 1: going to exhaust you defensively with their length, they're going

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Speaker 1: to exhaust you offensively because Russ is going to just

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Speaker 1: be running. It's like, oh my god, He's just a

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Speaker 1: pain in the ass to deal with. So we'll see

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Speaker 1: he listen. I'm critical of Russ, but there is your

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Speaker 1: cultural impact matters in the NBA more than any other sport.

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Speaker 1: Alan Iverson's more important culturally to the league than Karl Malone,

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Speaker 1: who drove tractors. So there are players that their cultural

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Speaker 1: imprint doctor j his importance, Alan Iverson, it's more they

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Speaker 1: matter more than Karl Malone or John Stockton. I have

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Speaker 1: no problem acknowledging that. I mean, so I think you're

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Speaker 1: right on with that. All right, let's welcome in, my buddy.

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Speaker 1: We do this every Friday. Chad Milman, chief content officer

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Speaker 1: for the Action Network. So on the year so far,

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Speaker 1: in the games we've talked about on this show, I'm

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Speaker 1: twenty two twenty six and one, which is poor. This

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Speaker 1: week is I feel like I'm lost at see these

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Speaker 1: are the worst numbers. First of all, I have a rule.

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Speaker 1: I don't bet gigantic numbers. This week, it's like college football.

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Speaker 1: There's three Bucks favored by twelve and a half, Cardinals

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Speaker 1: favored by seventeen and a half. That's awful, Rams favored

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Speaker 1: by fifteen and a half. It feels like Saturday. So Millman,

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Speaker 1: it's interesting because I feel differently about multiple games from

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Speaker 1: the beginning of the week because I think some lines

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Speaker 1: have gone in my favor. I'll throw one at you.

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Speaker 1: So initially I was leaning Baltimore over Cincinnati. But here's

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Speaker 1: why I would take the Bengals plus six. Hear me out.

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Speaker 1: I always worry about a team that is played back

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Speaker 1: to back emotional games. And you've got a team that

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Speaker 1: won on a sixty some yard field goal. You've got

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Speaker 1: a game in which Lamar Jackson comes from behind to

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Speaker 1: beat the Colts. You get a massive win over the Chargers.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I flaw a second half, and I look

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Speaker 1: at that and I think to myself, Okay, how much

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Speaker 1: can you ask of a team of my mootionally? And

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Speaker 1: I look at the Bengals here and I think to myself,

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Speaker 1: the Protections a little better. They're getting six at the

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Speaker 1: division rival. I would probably take Cincinnati here, even though

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Speaker 1: you know seven or fewer. Generally you would take the

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Speaker 1: superior team at home. But I think I like the

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Speaker 1: Bengals and the points sharper square that is one hundred

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Speaker 1: percent grade a sharp. He kind of nailed it on

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Speaker 1: the head with the Bengals, if you I mean with

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Speaker 1: the Ravens. Look at the Chiefs, there was some there

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Speaker 1: was a fumble that went their way. Look at the Lions,

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Speaker 1: they needed a miracle to get away with it. Look

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Speaker 1: at the Colts again, really really challenging game for them

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Speaker 1: that they pulled out in miraculous fashion. Look at the Chargers.

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Speaker 1: They were perfect and it was the perfect spot for

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Speaker 1: them against the team that had been flawless on third

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Speaker 1: and fourth downs and was due for a regression. So

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Speaker 1: you've gotten them either getting the ball going their way,

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Speaker 1: karma on their side, or a team that was due

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Speaker 1: to sort of play regress back to the mean. You

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Speaker 1: don't have those things, and this is a Ravens minus three.

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Speaker 1: The Bengals have been playing incredibly well, and I don't

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Speaker 1: think this is a jump off the Bengals bandwagon situation.

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Speaker 1: You've got a Division game with a Bengals defense that

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Speaker 1: is significantly better than it's getting credit for. They are

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Speaker 1: fifth in this sort of fancy metric called defensive DVOA,

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Speaker 1: which measures a lot of different things according to Football Outsiders,

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Speaker 1: which I'm not going to get too deep into, but

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Speaker 1: needless to say, it's a very advanced analytic against measuring

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Speaker 1: quality of your defense. The Bengals are good. They're also

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Speaker 1: very good running plays called it. It's called fourth and

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Speaker 1: epa per play right, which is a very fancy way

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Speaker 1: of saying the defense overperforms when opponents are likely to score.

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Speaker 1: They're very good against the run, is really all you

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Speaker 1: need to say. And this Ravens team, despite Lamar Jackson's heroics,

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Speaker 1: they still are a running team. And now they're out

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Speaker 1: without Latavius Murray. So I think you're on the right

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Speaker 1: side here. You know, the Chiefs are interesting, so they're

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Speaker 1: still not hunting and they're still putting up prodigious offensive numbers.

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Speaker 1: If they can clean the turnovers up, it's still the

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Speaker 1: same team. They weren't great defensively last year. The Titans

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Speaker 1: come off a highly emotional Monday Night win in which,

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Speaker 1: by the way, they were outgained out time of possession,

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Speaker 1: they were outplayed by Buffalo Josh Allen slips they win

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Speaker 1: the game. I think Tennessee's overvalued here. I take Kansas

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Speaker 1: City to win by a touchdown. It's minus five and

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Speaker 1: a half sharper square. This to me, is a really

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Speaker 1: challenging game. Tennessee is the right side. When the number

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Speaker 1: was at five and a half, it's been bet down

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Speaker 1: to four and a half, and I think it's going

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Speaker 1: to come down even more as it gets further down.

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Speaker 1: This is a game I would wait, wait and see

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Speaker 1: if you can get a better number, because if you

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Speaker 1: like Kansas City, everything you're saying is true. We just

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Speaker 1: talked about regression with the Chargers, right The Chargers were

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Speaker 1: playing out of their minds when it came to turnovers.

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Speaker 1: They go against the Ravens, I mean, not to turnovers

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Speaker 1: to third and fourth down. They go against the Ravens,

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Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, they're not converting as much

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Speaker 1: and the Ravens win handily. The Chiefs have been turning

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Speaker 1: the ball over uncharacteristic, and uncharacterist's great for Patrick Mahomes especially.

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Speaker 1: That's going to change. So now you're getting a Tennessee

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Speaker 1: team off of an emotional win a short week, even

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Speaker 1: though they're home underdogs, which is not something professional better

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Speaker 1: it's like to do. You have to expect that the

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Speaker 1: Chiefs are going to be able to score every time

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Speaker 1: they have the ball, because at this point the Titans

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Speaker 1: defensive secondary is just washed right. They're two best players

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Speaker 1: aren't even on the field right now. They won't be

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Speaker 1: on the field for the rest of the year. The

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Speaker 1: one thing they have going for them is Derrick Henry

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Speaker 1: is basically going to make it second in three every

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Speaker 1: single series for Ryan Tannehill against a really bad Chiefs defense.

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Speaker 1: So that's the scary thing. Like you're betting that the

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Speaker 1: Chiefs are going to get one or two stops and

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Speaker 1: they're going to score on those one or two stops.

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Speaker 1: They kind of have to play the most perfect game

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Speaker 1: they've played this year. At the Volume Sports, Twitter, Instagram,

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