WEBVTT - #520 - Bobby Answers the Most Asked Questions on a Live Stream

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to episode five twenty of the Bobby Cast, and

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<v Speaker 1>we are streaming this live on our YouTube channel, and

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<v Speaker 1>if you guys want to be a part of the

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<v Speaker 1>live stream, just go to Bobby Bones channel on YouTube

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<v Speaker 1>and you can watch. We'll start with Karen Reed trial

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<v Speaker 1>which just happened. And I watched the documentary on HBO

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<v Speaker 1>Max is great. I think it was like four or

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<v Speaker 1>five parts, and I had only heard about the trial,

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<v Speaker 1>and so I went and I watched the thing, and

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<v Speaker 1>I just watched the verdict from the second trial, and

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<v Speaker 1>I guess it's not a spoiler because it's news, but

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<v Speaker 1>the first trial she was not hung, as I have

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<v Speaker 1>not been, but it was a hung jury. So second trial,

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<v Speaker 1>which just happened, it's weird at how they were announcing

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<v Speaker 1>her verdicts. So three one was like second degree murder,

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<v Speaker 1>one was another one one was a duy basically, But

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<v Speaker 1>at some point they should just do it like on television,

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<v Speaker 1>because it was kind of confusing. They get everybody in

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<v Speaker 1>the courtroom and they're like, okay, for Hearth, who is

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<v Speaker 1>it in thal? Does the court acknowledge guilty not? I'm

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<v Speaker 1>completely confused about what's happening and somebody says not guilty.

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<v Speaker 1>But I mean, at this point in our lives, shouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>they just go, we find you of charge A, not guilty.

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<v Speaker 1>We find you on charge B not guilty. It turns

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<v Speaker 1>out she was not guilty of secondary murderer. She was

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<v Speaker 1>not guilty of I think leaving the scene. I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>mess some of this up. And the third one was guilty,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was basically driving under the influence, and that

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<v Speaker 1>was based on an estimate from way after the fact

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<v Speaker 1>when they tested her and I followed the trial a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit. I'm not gonna do twenty minutes of material

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<v Speaker 1>here on the Karen retrial. But so she's not guilty

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<v Speaker 1>of second degree murder. That was the big one, So

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<v Speaker 1>now what are they gonna do? It seemed to me

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<v Speaker 1>like there was very much some sort of cover up

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<v Speaker 1>within the system. The system meaning the police force that town,

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<v Speaker 1>right outside of Boston's police force. But they were so

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<v Speaker 1>hell bent on making her guilty. So what do they

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<v Speaker 1>do now? Do they just stop looking for John o'keef's killer.

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<v Speaker 1>It's bizarre. And if they don't, because again they don't

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<v Speaker 1>have a second suspect. She's been on trial for two

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<v Speaker 1>or three years at this point. If it's really justice

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<v Speaker 1>for John, which is what they're saying, then they should

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<v Speaker 1>actually go and continue to try to find who killed

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<v Speaker 1>them because they're only I don't know seven or eight

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<v Speaker 1>people that were around that night. But I didn't think

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<v Speaker 1>that they would find her guilty, especially if you watched

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<v Speaker 1>any of the trial this time, you could almost say

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<v Speaker 1>last time. But those jurors are supposedly not affected by

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<v Speaker 1>the first trial at all. But I don't know how

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<v Speaker 1>you lived in that area and completely consumed by the trial.

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<v Speaker 1>But watch the series. I'm sure they're gonna have a

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<v Speaker 1>new documentary up on the second one as well. But

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<v Speaker 1>she was not not guilty, So I just watched that.

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<v Speaker 1>It was just really confusing at how they announced it,

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<v Speaker 1>because I think it should just be announced like on television.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm taking your questions as we go as well. We

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<v Speaker 1>can start with this one. What is a moment in

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<v Speaker 1>your career you still can't believe actually happened. I have

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<v Speaker 1>a few of these. Number one is way back in

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<v Speaker 1>the day when I worked in Hot Springs, Arkansas. My

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<v Speaker 1>very first job was at a radio station called one

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<v Speaker 1>oh five point nine k e Z. That was a

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<v Speaker 1>pop radio station. And when I very first started, I

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<v Speaker 1>worked on the weekends, and I only got a job

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<v Speaker 1>on the air because they fired a guy that was

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<v Speaker 1>working on the air, but we also had to do

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<v Speaker 1>these things called sound and light shows, and he was

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<v Speaker 1>fired because I think they caught him stealing station equipment.

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<v Speaker 1>So last minute they had to throw me on the air.

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<v Speaker 1>My name was name of Bobby Bones. At the time,

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<v Speaker 1>it was just Bobby. I didn't have a name. I'd

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<v Speaker 1>never been on the air. But they had hired me

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<v Speaker 1>to clean the front office where the secretary or any

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<v Speaker 1>of the office people sat. People come and get their prizes.

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<v Speaker 1>That was the area that I was hired to clean

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<v Speaker 1>and switch out these weekly top forty count of down

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<v Speaker 1>and so I'm hired at KLAZY to do that. Before

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<v Speaker 1>my first day of cleaning, I'm put on weekends. I

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<v Speaker 1>have no experience whatsoever. I moved from weekends to weeknights

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<v Speaker 1>after just a couple of months because the guy who

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<v Speaker 1>I still know named Kramer, who is still in radio,

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<v Speaker 1>was doing nights and he left to go to another station.

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<v Speaker 1>So it was a small town, so it wasn't like

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<v Speaker 1>they were doing a national search for the job, so

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<v Speaker 1>they just give me the job. Like I showed up,

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<v Speaker 1>I was on time. I wasn't particularly good, but I

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<v Speaker 1>was young, available in cheap, so they just give me

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<v Speaker 1>the job. And I'm going to get to my point

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<v Speaker 1>here of you know, one of these things that I

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<v Speaker 1>can't believe happened, because all this I can believe. If

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<v Speaker 1>you just show up on time all the time and

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<v Speaker 1>they trust that you're going to be there when you say,

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<v Speaker 1>there are a lot of opportunities that are going to

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<v Speaker 1>open up for you just because now, as somebody who

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<v Speaker 1>hires people, if the people that I hire just show

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<v Speaker 1>up consistently on time, emotionally, physically, like, that's ninety five

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<v Speaker 1>percent of it. And I was that guy. But when

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<v Speaker 1>I was working at Kla Z and I was going

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<v Speaker 1>to college because I wanted to graduate college. Nobody in

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<v Speaker 1>my family had graduated college. I thought, as soon as

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<v Speaker 1>I finish here, I'm going to try to go and

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<v Speaker 1>get a bigger job. And I had had some offers

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<v Speaker 1>when I was at Kayla Z. I mean I remember

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<v Speaker 1>flying out to the Tri Cities, which is in East Tennessee.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like Bristol, Virginia, a couple other in that. Try

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<v Speaker 1>forgive me to the other two that aren't being mentioned

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<v Speaker 1>in the try, but so I go out. I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>take that job a couple other ones. I just wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to graduate college. And there was a station in Little

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<v Speaker 1>Rock called Q one hundred. They had just flipped two

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<v Speaker 1>top forty from whatever format they were, and I really

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<v Speaker 1>wanted that job because to me, Little Rock was a

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<v Speaker 1>massive city. That was where they had a couple big buildings,

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<v Speaker 1>that's where the news was shot. Like Ned Perme, my

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<v Speaker 1>favorite weather man, lived in Little Rock. I thought that

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<v Speaker 1>was the coolest thing ever, and so I always wanted

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<v Speaker 1>My dream was to work in Little Rock. They had

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<v Speaker 1>a minor league baseball team. And when you're coming from

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<v Speaker 1>Mountain Pine, which is where I'm from, population seven hundred,

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<v Speaker 1>or Hot Springs, which was town which is where my

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<v Speaker 1>radio station was, which was twenty thousand, like Little Rock's

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<v Speaker 1>massive because it was a half million people. So Q

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred flips on and I remember getting a call

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<v Speaker 1>on the request line and I said, Hey, do you

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<v Speaker 1>think you might want to come in do nights at

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<v Speaker 1>Q one hundred, And I thought it was a prank call,

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<v Speaker 1>but the guy high identified hisself as a guy named

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<v Speaker 1>Ted Striker, and I was like, Yeah, this is really you.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that would be super cool. He said, cool,

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<v Speaker 1>call me tomorrow in the daytime because my shift was

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<v Speaker 1>at like eight pm. And so I called him the

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<v Speaker 1>next day and he's like, I would love to try

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<v Speaker 1>you out. Well, the problem was I was on in

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<v Speaker 1>hot Spring because that it was about hour drive, but

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<v Speaker 1>you could hear both stations, and I would say a

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<v Speaker 1>little more than faint, but not all the way, but

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<v Speaker 1>you could hear both stations. And he was like, I'd

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<v Speaker 1>love to get you on the air at night and

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<v Speaker 1>give you a tryout. And I'm thinking, I can't really

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<v Speaker 1>go and try out for your station because I'm on

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<v Speaker 1>a station right down the road. And if I go

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<v Speaker 1>and try out, if I quit my job to try out,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't get the job. That sucks for me. And

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<v Speaker 1>I told him that, I said, I don't think I

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<v Speaker 1>can do it, Like, can you not just listen to

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<v Speaker 1>me here and make your mind out because it's basically

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<v Speaker 1>the same thing. We're just you know, playing Britney Spears

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<v Speaker 1>and inn Sinc. CDs. Hey, everybody number twenty two Britney Spears.

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<v Speaker 1>We're just doing that all night. And he was like, now,

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<v Speaker 1>I really need you on the station, So I said, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So what I do. I'd drive at two o'clock in

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<v Speaker 1>the morning and I get on Q one hundred under

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<v Speaker 1>the name and I thought, I was so funny Robbie

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<v Speaker 1>Johnson because it sounds like Bobby Bones and it was

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<v Speaker 1>Bobby Jones and his Robbie Jones. So I went Robbie

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<v Speaker 1>Johnson on Q one hundred from like two to five AM.

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<v Speaker 1>That was my tryout on a Sunday night, knowing that

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<v Speaker 1>if I got caught, I was going to get fired,

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<v Speaker 1>but thinking that there is no chance anybody is going

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<v Speaker 1>to hear me on this station in Little Rock two

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<v Speaker 1>to five AM from my station in Hot Springs, because

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<v Speaker 1>who's even awake. I remember opening the phone lines and

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<v Speaker 1>radio names are so dumb. My name is dumb. It's

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<v Speaker 1>Bobby Bones. It's not even my real name, so when

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<v Speaker 1>I say these names, it's funny. But my program director's

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<v Speaker 1>name was Jack and his radio name was Jack Frost.

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<v Speaker 1>And I remember Jack Frost calling the request line at

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<v Speaker 1>three o'clock in the morning, going, Bobby, is that you

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<v Speaker 1>on the air now? Again? I'm Robbie Johnson at this time,

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<v Speaker 1>and I know it's Jack of my program director, and

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<v Speaker 1>so I just hang up. It was almost like when

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<v Speaker 1>they say, if you're being questioned by the cops, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't say anything. You know, if you say nothing, you'll

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<v Speaker 1>at least remain in the same amount of trouble. If

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<v Speaker 1>you say anything, it could get worse. So I just

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<v Speaker 1>hung up, and then I blocked the phone lines. You

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<v Speaker 1>could push one button, he goes and it blocks all

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<v Speaker 1>the lines. And I went into work the next Monday

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<v Speaker 1>and just denied it. I was like what, I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>are you crazy? And he was like, I could have

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<v Speaker 1>swore it was you. I was like, on a Sunday night,

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<v Speaker 1>three am, anyway, it was me. Never really admitted that

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<v Speaker 1>till right now. I for one night was Robbie Johnson.

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<v Speaker 1>I got the job, and I left Klazy and went

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<v Speaker 1>to Q one hundred, probably three weeks later, and it

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<v Speaker 1>was great. I was there for like six months or

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<v Speaker 1>so before I moved to Austin. But I cannot believe

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<v Speaker 1>that happened. When I think back, I'm not even thought

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<v Speaker 1>of that story and so long. I can't believe that

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<v Speaker 1>I took that risk. That's not a chance, that risk

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<v Speaker 1>of getting fired. And then I can't believe that Jack

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<v Speaker 1>Frost was freaking listening and he called in and got

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<v Speaker 1>through and then I answered, and then I just hung up.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh that was totally weird. What I really think happened

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<v Speaker 1>was I think Jack Frost knew it was me, understood

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<v Speaker 1>what I was doing, and I think he just got

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<v Speaker 1>it and never brought it up again. So I appreciate

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<v Speaker 1>that Jack Frost is not alive anymore. But I appreciate that.

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<v Speaker 1>And think of all the dumb radio names. Bobby Bones.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't pick my name, by the way, like I

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<v Speaker 1>picked it out of a choice of like three, but

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<v Speaker 1>Bobby Bones, Ted Striker, who I mentioned Jack Frost, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think I was Kevin Cruz who hired me at

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<v Speaker 1>kay lazy Man. Podcasters have un lucky then I have

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<v Speaker 1>to come up with stupid names like we had to.

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<v Speaker 1>That was one and my second one is probably winning

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<v Speaker 1>Dancing with the Stars, not even just going on Dancing

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<v Speaker 1>with the Stars, because that was more of a strategy

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<v Speaker 1>for ABC. And that story is a bit bizarre because

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<v Speaker 1>I had started on American Idol and I did a season,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was going back for the second season, which

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<v Speaker 1>was going to be at my first full season because

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<v Speaker 1>I did like three quarters of a season that year

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<v Speaker 1>that I went on the first time, and things were

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<v Speaker 1>going pretty good at that time because I had an

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<v Speaker 1>offer to judge The Mass Singer, which I didn't know

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<v Speaker 1>what the show was. I think it was only on

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<v Speaker 1>in Japan or whatever country it started in. So they

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<v Speaker 1>called said, hey, do you want to be one of

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<v Speaker 1>the judges on The Mass Singer And it was that

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<v Speaker 1>versus there was a show on USA Network and the

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<v Speaker 1>show had Travis Trutt, Jacoen, Shania Twain as like the judges,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was some kind of singing show here in Nashville,

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<v Speaker 1>and they offered me the host of that job, or

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<v Speaker 1>it was option see, which was stay on American Idol,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was going to sign a two year deal

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<v Speaker 1>with American Idol and go do Dancing with the Stars

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<v Speaker 1>as promotion for American Idol. That was kind of part

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<v Speaker 1>of my deal, meaning I had I didn't have to,

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<v Speaker 1>but they encouraged me to accept that if I were

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<v Speaker 1>to take the Idol deal because they needed someone to

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<v Speaker 1>go on that show to promote American Idol. So I

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<v Speaker 1>never had the ambition to go on to American Idol

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<v Speaker 1>and excuse me, dancing with the Stars, Like I never

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<v Speaker 1>had the dream to go on Dancing with the Stars

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<v Speaker 1>and just dance. I never really watched the show, at

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<v Speaker 1>least not all the way through. I had seen clips

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<v Speaker 1>and stuff because it was a you know, definitely a

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<v Speaker 1>piece of pop culture in American television history, especially when

0:12:36.320 --> 0:12:41.920
<v Speaker 1>it started. But I took the ABC Disney offer, which

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<v Speaker 1>was American Idol Dancing with the Stars, and then I

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<v Speaker 1>want to Dancing with the Stars, and they told me

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<v Speaker 1>that this show will be four or five weeks and

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<v Speaker 1>we'll have you back over to American Idol on time.

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<v Speaker 1>And I remember telling one of the producers, if you

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<v Speaker 1>think I'm only gonna last four weeks, I have a

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<v Speaker 1>feeling that's not going to be the case. So we

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<v Speaker 1>should start to figure out what happens if I'm still

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<v Speaker 1>on this show and American Idol is taping. And it's

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<v Speaker 1>not that they laughed. It wasn't like, you know, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>so I got a text, Dang, I'm so important right now.

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<v Speaker 1>You would never believe what that text was. The text was,

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<v Speaker 1>can you take the dog out? So you guys think

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<v Speaker 1>that I'm some kind of podcast superstar and I just

0:13:27.200 --> 0:13:28.520
<v Speaker 1>got a text going, can you take the dog out.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he's got a poop. So what happens is

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<v Speaker 1>I go on that show and they're like usually people

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<v Speaker 1>that can't dance and have never danced. They last four

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<v Speaker 1>weeks and I wasn't in the bottom three. I wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>in the bottom three, and it came to that point

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<v Speaker 1>where I had to make a decision do I leave

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<v Speaker 1>the show to go to American Idol or keep dancing

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<v Speaker 1>on Dancing with the Stars. And it wasn't even that

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<v Speaker 1>I loved dancing, because I didn't know how to dance,

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<v Speaker 1>but I respected all the work that my partner put

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<v Speaker 1>in Sharna. I didn't want her to be off the

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<v Speaker 1>show just because I decided I needed to go back

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<v Speaker 1>to Idle and they were paying me a lot of money.

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<v Speaker 1>But I stayed on Dancing with the Stars and we

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<v Speaker 1>won the freaking thing. And when it comes to one

0:14:06.679 --> 0:14:09.920
<v Speaker 1>of the craziest things ever, it's standing there and there

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<v Speaker 1>were three I think maybe there were four of us

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<v Speaker 1>that were still remaining, and Tom Bergeron and Aaron Andrews.

0:14:17.360 --> 0:14:20.920
<v Speaker 1>They go to that card and he's like, and the

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<v Speaker 1>winner of Dancing with the Stars Season twenty seven. I

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<v Speaker 1>remember it so vividly, and I remember in that time

0:14:27.960 --> 0:14:33.880
<v Speaker 1>because there's music playing, it sounds like a heartbeat. My

0:14:33.960 --> 0:14:36.760
<v Speaker 1>heart wasn't going bam bam, bam bam bam. Oh, I wonder,

0:14:36.800 --> 0:14:39.880
<v Speaker 1>I wonder. It was mostly like I was about to

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<v Speaker 1>die and I was like reliving my life. It was

0:14:42.000 --> 0:14:44.240
<v Speaker 1>flashing before my eyes. But it was just all my

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<v Speaker 1>Dancing with the Stars' history, like all those ten weeks

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<v Speaker 1>of just grinding it out, and I was kind of

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<v Speaker 1>seeing all that flashed by. And I remember when he

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<v Speaker 1>said boo, because that's what he said, Bobby and Sharna

0:14:57.840 --> 0:15:02.000
<v Speaker 1>that boo, And I was like, this is the craziest

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<v Speaker 1>thing ever. It wasn't like I won like the World

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<v Speaker 1>Series or the super Bowl, because those guys worked their

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<v Speaker 1>whole lives to do that, Like they honed those skills

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<v Speaker 1>since they were six years old and went up through

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<v Speaker 1>all the levels. Like I got thrown on a show

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<v Speaker 1>because I took another job, But it was cool because

0:15:18.280 --> 0:15:20.520
<v Speaker 1>I had the lowest odds because Vegas put out the

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<v Speaker 1>odds I worked. I don't think there's a question I

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<v Speaker 1>worked way harder than everybody else because I had a

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<v Speaker 1>normal job as well, and I was touring and I

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<v Speaker 1>was living in a city I didn't live in, and

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<v Speaker 1>I was just doing that show and training extra. So

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<v Speaker 1>I do think that I work harder than anybody else,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's because I had to. I was coming from

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<v Speaker 1>such a detriment when it came to my dance experience.

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<v Speaker 1>But I remember one of that show and just being

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<v Speaker 1>like this is wild and they lifted me up like

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<v Speaker 1>Rudy and I remember that and they lifted me up

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<v Speaker 1>and they were like yeah. So that was a crazy

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<v Speaker 1>time because like the show was out there, Amy was

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<v Speaker 1>out there, Eddie had come out stay with me for

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<v Speaker 1>some of that show, and Mike Dean and I lived together.

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<v Speaker 1>But that was a bizarre time, And not that I

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<v Speaker 1>went on the show. It wasn't the craziest thing to happen,

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<v Speaker 1>but the fact that I won that freaking show, like

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<v Speaker 1>I won a reality show, a reality competition, Like that's

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<v Speaker 1>weird because I don't feel like I really went on

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<v Speaker 1>a reality show. But they do record you all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a microphone on your body all the time when

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<v Speaker 1>you do that show, when you're training, they're always trying

0:16:25.880 --> 0:16:28.000
<v Speaker 1>to catch something, catch you doing something, saying something. They

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<v Speaker 1>want something romantic, something dramatic, and Sharna and I made

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<v Speaker 1>a deal. Wearily they weren't getting any of that from us,

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<v Speaker 1>And mostly it is because I was so focused on

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<v Speaker 1>just trying to get to even so she could then

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<v Speaker 1>teach me that there was no room for me to

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<v Speaker 1>really have any sort of human emotion. It was just grind, grind, grind, grind.

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<v Speaker 1>But that was bizarre. And then they had the party afterward.

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<v Speaker 1>And I've told this story before, but after the show

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<v Speaker 1>has finished, they have like a quick winning party for

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<v Speaker 1>like the champion and everybody. That season, I didn't get

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<v Speaker 1>to go to it because I had to get my

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<v Speaker 1>car immediately and drive to work and then spend the

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<v Speaker 1>next hour and a half doing that next morning's radio show.

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<v Speaker 1>And as soon as that's over, I drove to the

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<v Speaker 1>airport we hold on a plane that flew across the

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<v Speaker 1>country to go do Good Morning America. And I remember

0:17:12.040 --> 0:17:14.119
<v Speaker 1>getting on the plane and everybody being irritated that I

0:17:14.200 --> 0:17:15.679
<v Speaker 1>made them late, and I was like, guys, I have

0:17:15.760 --> 0:17:20.359
<v Speaker 1>a job. But that was bizarre and cool. And I

0:17:20.359 --> 0:17:23.320
<v Speaker 1>still have the mirror ball. It's down here and I

0:17:23.320 --> 0:17:26.000
<v Speaker 1>don't think about it as much as I used to,

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<v Speaker 1>meaning it's not like a part of my identity anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>But when I think of like bi wildly absurd, bizarre things,

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<v Speaker 1>that whole experience makes that list.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's take a quick pause for a message from our sponsor, Wow,

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<v Speaker 2>and we're back on the Bobby Cast.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's another question, what is the most impactful song of

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<v Speaker 1>your life? I think I probably have three of these.

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<v Speaker 1>I think number one it's John Mayer Stopped This Train.

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<v Speaker 1>That's my favorite song of all time. I think because

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like that was the first song that I

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<v Speaker 1>ever heard sang by anybody that I felt like, whoever

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<v Speaker 1>wrote that song wrote it in my voice, and I

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<v Speaker 1>think that's what a great songwriter is. It's not just

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<v Speaker 1>somebody who can rhyme words and have a reallyquol melody.

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<v Speaker 1>At least it's not just that. And when he was

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<v Speaker 1>singing stop this Train, because the whole song's about you know,

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<v Speaker 1>time just goes by and if you don't like stop

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<v Speaker 1>the train occasionally and like appreciate it, like you're not

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<v Speaker 1>going to appreciate it ever. And there's a line in

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<v Speaker 1>the song that says, I don't I may butcher this

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<v Speaker 1>because I haven't thought about this in a long time.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so scared of getting older. I'm only good at

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<v Speaker 1>being young, And like, I resonated with that because forever

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<v Speaker 1>I was like the young guy in this medium radio especially,

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<v Speaker 1>I was like the youngest by ten fifteen years doing

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<v Speaker 1>it at the level that I was doing it. And

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<v Speaker 1>so yeah, that line hit me pretty hard. I would

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<v Speaker 1>still say probably my favorite song ever. So that was

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<v Speaker 1>one where I started to appreciate songwriting. Another one of

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<v Speaker 1>the songs I think I have three is Thomas Rhett

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<v Speaker 1>Beer with Jesus. I love Thomas Rhett, but I thought

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<v Speaker 1>that song was so stupid, and it was when I

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<v Speaker 1>was considering coming to country music. Stupid is not the

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<v Speaker 1>word corny, because Eddie and I were playing golf in

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<v Speaker 1>Austin and that was trying to get Eddie to move

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<v Speaker 1>to Nashville with me. And this whole thing is not

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<v Speaker 1>a shot at that song, but just our feeling about

0:19:31.040 --> 0:19:33.400
<v Speaker 1>that song when we turned it on, because what happened

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<v Speaker 1>was Eddie and I are playing golf in Austin and

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<v Speaker 1>I am like, dude, you gotta come and move to

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<v Speaker 1>Nashville with me. Because he had turned down offers to

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<v Speaker 1>be on the morning show in Texas. He was like,

0:19:45.520 --> 0:19:46.959
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to wake up that early. He had

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<v Speaker 1>a job of the news, like he was doing pretty good.

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<v Speaker 1>And I said, do come to Nashville, move your family.

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<v Speaker 1>I will pay you really well, and you'll run cameras

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<v Speaker 1>and you'll edit and you'll be on the air. And

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<v Speaker 1>I don't really know what your role is going to be,

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<v Speaker 1>but you're my best friends. Oh, come on, And my

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<v Speaker 1>whole thing, my whole career has been find my friends.

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<v Speaker 1>Find my friends that show up on time every time

0:20:05.520 --> 0:20:08.080
<v Speaker 1>that I can depend on, and let's go and build

0:20:08.119 --> 0:20:11.080
<v Speaker 1>something cool. And he wouldn't say yes. He wouldn't say yes,

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<v Speaker 1>and I said, well, let's I said, let's just turn

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<v Speaker 1>on a song. And we turned on the Big ninety

0:20:18.080 --> 0:20:22.680
<v Speaker 1>eight in Nashville, which is, I guess our flagship station here.

0:20:22.760 --> 0:20:24.840
<v Speaker 1>We're not really working from that studio, but it's in

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<v Speaker 1>our building and we're in Nashville, so we'll call it flagship.

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<v Speaker 1>And I turned it on and the song that was on,

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<v Speaker 1>and it may have been Thomas Strutt's first single is

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<v Speaker 1>if I could have a beer with Jesus. I'd tell

0:20:36.840 --> 0:20:38.960
<v Speaker 1>him and I was like, this is the worst song ever.

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<v Speaker 1>To try to get Eddie to move to Nashville, and

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know Tiar's relationship with that song right now.

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<v Speaker 1>He may love it and still think and it's not

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<v Speaker 1>even about Jesus, So don't hit me up and be like,

0:20:49.280 --> 0:20:52.040
<v Speaker 1>I can't believe. Well, I'm I don't drink beer, so

0:20:52.080 --> 0:20:53.960
<v Speaker 1>I definitely wouldn't have a beer with Jesus. And if

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<v Speaker 1>Jesus like tried to give me a drink beer for

0:20:55.560 --> 0:20:58.720
<v Speaker 1>the first time, is that even Jesus? Or is it

0:20:58.800 --> 0:21:02.119
<v Speaker 1>the devil in disguise about that? Probably haven't thought about that,

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<v Speaker 1>But that song was very impactful because I think that

0:21:05.760 --> 0:21:08.760
<v Speaker 1>song probably kept Eddie from almost moving to Nashville. I'm

0:21:08.760 --> 0:21:12.239
<v Speaker 1>gonna call him real quick, and he doesn't know I'm

0:21:12.280 --> 0:21:16.520
<v Speaker 1>talking about this obviously because it was a question from

0:21:16.520 --> 0:21:18.679
<v Speaker 1>you guys live. Let's see if he answers on FaceTime.

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<v Speaker 1>He may even answer. I guarantee you he knows the song,

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<v Speaker 1>and if he doesn't, I'll be shocked. Hey, dude, can

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<v Speaker 1>you hear me? Yeah? What up? Okay, I'm recording right now,

0:21:34.200 --> 0:21:35.920
<v Speaker 1>so you're on and I'm telling a story and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna tell you what it is. I just want

0:21:37.440 --> 0:21:40.760
<v Speaker 1>you to tell me if you remember. Okay, okay. Whenever

0:21:40.920 --> 0:21:44.280
<v Speaker 1>we were playing golf in Austin, Texas and I'm trying

0:21:44.280 --> 0:21:47.040
<v Speaker 1>to convince you to move to Nashville to do this

0:21:47.080 --> 0:21:48.679
<v Speaker 1>show with me, and I'm like, dude, just come on,

0:21:48.840 --> 0:21:51.639
<v Speaker 1>just bring your family, move across. And we decided to

0:21:51.680 --> 0:21:54.240
<v Speaker 1>turn the radio on to kind of get the temperature

0:21:54.280 --> 0:21:56.560
<v Speaker 1>and be like, is this cool or not? What song

0:21:56.680 --> 0:21:57.080
<v Speaker 1>was playing?

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<v Speaker 3>Thomas Frrett, if I can have a beer, I'll never

0:22:04.160 --> 0:22:05.840
<v Speaker 3>forget it. I'll never forget it.

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<v Speaker 1>What would you say our feeling was when we heard

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<v Speaker 1>that song?

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<v Speaker 3>Huh. I don't think we talked about it, just looked

0:22:14.200 --> 0:22:20.360
<v Speaker 3>at each other. We looked at each other and when huh.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I just wanted to see if you remember that's

0:22:20.440 --> 0:22:23.680
<v Speaker 1>the same way I did. Yeah, all right, buddy, see later.

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<v Speaker 1>Impactful but Thomas, right, I love you body. I want

0:22:31.440 --> 0:22:33.159
<v Speaker 1>you to be offended by this. But that's the truth.

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<v Speaker 1>And the third one is probably when it comes to

0:22:35.560 --> 0:22:39.280
<v Speaker 1>impactful songs, probably Chris Stapleton and I'm gonna say Tennessee Whiskey,

0:22:39.320 --> 0:22:42.720
<v Speaker 1>and not because of the song, but in the history

0:22:42.760 --> 0:22:45.240
<v Speaker 1>of the Bobby Bone Show, there have only been a

0:22:45.280 --> 0:22:48.000
<v Speaker 1>few people that I've called and like said, hey, you

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<v Speaker 1>gotta come on the show. I'm a big fan way

0:22:51.040 --> 0:22:53.359
<v Speaker 1>before they popped, and then when they popped it worked

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<v Speaker 1>out to be super beneficial to me. One of those

0:22:56.240 --> 0:23:00.679
<v Speaker 1>was Chris Stapleton, and I remember calling him at his house.

0:23:01.280 --> 0:23:03.360
<v Speaker 1>He was in the shower and at this point he

0:23:03.400 --> 0:23:05.760
<v Speaker 1>was a songwriter and he had some hits of a songwriter,

0:23:05.800 --> 0:23:10.439
<v Speaker 1>but he wasn't a known artist, and he said, let

0:23:10.480 --> 0:23:12.640
<v Speaker 1>me call you right back in the shower, all live

0:23:12.680 --> 0:23:16.040
<v Speaker 1>on the air, and I'm like, dude, come up, You're awesome.

0:23:16.080 --> 0:23:19.480
<v Speaker 1>He's like, okay, he comes up, he plays boom, it's great.

0:23:19.920 --> 0:23:23.920
<v Speaker 1>He does. Josh Turner maybe turned him lots down because

0:23:23.960 --> 0:23:26.840
<v Speaker 1>he wrote that song and it has like eight million

0:23:26.880 --> 0:23:29.160
<v Speaker 1>views now on YouTube. But that was before Tennessee Whiskey.

0:23:29.560 --> 0:23:34.320
<v Speaker 1>So it was very beneficial to me that I heard

0:23:34.320 --> 0:23:37.160
<v Speaker 1>his amazing voice before he blew up. Because I didn't

0:23:37.160 --> 0:23:39.600
<v Speaker 1>make him good, I didn't find him, I didn't make

0:23:39.680 --> 0:23:41.800
<v Speaker 1>him famous, I didn't put him add justin turberlate together.

0:23:42.040 --> 0:23:45.439
<v Speaker 1>But as soon as he popped like he did, he

0:23:45.560 --> 0:23:49.600
<v Speaker 1>had this really cool loyalty to me, which still to

0:23:49.640 --> 0:23:51.879
<v Speaker 1>this day, for some reason, he holds anytime I ask

0:23:52.000 --> 0:23:54.280
<v Speaker 1>him to do anything It is a very quick yes.

0:23:54.920 --> 0:23:58.080
<v Speaker 1>I love Chris. Chris doesn't do a whole lot like

0:23:58.160 --> 0:24:00.560
<v Speaker 1>publicly as far as interviews, but he's always on the

0:24:00.560 --> 0:24:02.960
<v Speaker 1>show when I call him. He did the Million Dollar

0:24:03.040 --> 0:24:05.120
<v Speaker 1>Show with Eddie Knight at the Rhyme and he came

0:24:05.160 --> 0:24:07.960
<v Speaker 1>and played it. But I would say that song because

0:24:08.000 --> 0:24:10.760
<v Speaker 1>that created that relationship with Chris Stapleton and I. I

0:24:10.800 --> 0:24:14.160
<v Speaker 1>got very fortunate there those three songs, but mostly beer

0:24:14.200 --> 0:24:19.280
<v Speaker 1>with jeez, it's crazy that Eddie remembers that. Here's another question.

0:24:19.640 --> 0:24:26.040
<v Speaker 1>What's the most misunderstood part of your job? One? How

0:24:26.080 --> 0:24:28.199
<v Speaker 1>difficult it is to wake up every morning. It's not

0:24:28.280 --> 0:24:30.760
<v Speaker 1>difficult like my stepdad who worked at the Middle difficult.

0:24:31.000 --> 0:24:35.639
<v Speaker 1>It's different kind of difficult. I would much rather do

0:24:35.680 --> 0:24:37.119
<v Speaker 1>what I'm doing because I chose to do what I do,

0:24:37.160 --> 0:24:38.680
<v Speaker 1>and I built all the avenues that I get to

0:24:38.760 --> 0:24:40.760
<v Speaker 1>drive down every day to do what I do, meaning

0:24:40.800 --> 0:24:43.800
<v Speaker 1>this podcast, meaning the radio show, meaning any of the

0:24:43.800 --> 0:24:45.920
<v Speaker 1>television projects that I do. So I did it all once.

0:24:45.960 --> 0:24:48.240
<v Speaker 1>I remember I was doing Breaking Bobby Bones on nat

0:24:48.280 --> 0:24:51.600
<v Speaker 1>GEO and I was injured a lot because that show

0:24:51.640 --> 0:24:55.119
<v Speaker 1>had me catching myself on fire as a stuntman falling

0:24:55.119 --> 0:24:59.960
<v Speaker 1>off houses, climbing in the middle of winter in Iowa,

0:25:00.359 --> 0:25:06.840
<v Speaker 1>a like wind turbine, like all this stuff, and I

0:25:06.880 --> 0:25:09.159
<v Speaker 1>was always hurt and I would complain about it. My

0:25:09.160 --> 0:25:13.000
<v Speaker 1>wife would go, I get it that you're hurting, but

0:25:13.080 --> 0:25:15.600
<v Speaker 1>you created all this stuff that's hurting you, so you

0:25:15.640 --> 0:25:18.640
<v Speaker 1>can only be so upset. And that's how I feel

0:25:18.640 --> 0:25:20.919
<v Speaker 1>about the morning show, right It sucks to wake up

0:25:20.920 --> 0:25:26.399
<v Speaker 1>early in the morning. That being said, how difficult that is.

0:25:27.359 --> 0:25:31.880
<v Speaker 1>I would say, the constant pressure to be on all

0:25:31.920 --> 0:25:34.359
<v Speaker 1>the time. Now again, I did this because I'm the

0:25:34.359 --> 0:25:39.199
<v Speaker 1>one that decided to do the radio show, the NFL podcast,

0:25:39.600 --> 0:25:45.280
<v Speaker 1>twenty five Whistles, the Bobby Cast, I did the Yellowstone Podcast.

0:25:45.480 --> 0:25:47.399
<v Speaker 1>I'm trying, So I did all this. So when I

0:25:47.440 --> 0:25:52.479
<v Speaker 1>say this, it's all my fault. But there really is

0:25:52.600 --> 0:25:55.159
<v Speaker 1>so much energy you have, and that's it. You hit

0:25:55.200 --> 0:25:57.600
<v Speaker 1>a point. And I think, as I record this, like

0:25:57.640 --> 0:26:01.160
<v Speaker 1>I've kind of hit that pointly have a few days

0:26:01.200 --> 0:26:03.520
<v Speaker 1>off coming out vacation in the next few weeks. But

0:26:03.560 --> 0:26:07.840
<v Speaker 1>I think that's a misunderstood part that And I'm not whining,

0:26:08.720 --> 0:26:11.200
<v Speaker 1>but you can actually like fry your brain. I think

0:26:11.200 --> 0:26:15.359
<v Speaker 1>my brain's fried right now. I think in like the

0:26:15.440 --> 0:26:20.400
<v Speaker 1>radio part of it. It used to be be relatable. Relatability

0:26:20.480 --> 0:26:24.679
<v Speaker 1>is key, and I think Nember something to that, but

0:26:25.680 --> 0:26:30.480
<v Speaker 1>it's not even that anymore. I think being entertaining is

0:26:30.560 --> 0:26:37.320
<v Speaker 1>number one. Being authentic or telling the truth is number two,

0:26:37.680 --> 0:26:40.320
<v Speaker 1>because if you're being entertaining, you can't stay in character

0:26:40.520 --> 0:26:43.120
<v Speaker 1>or remember your lies. That's why I don't lie more.

0:26:43.160 --> 0:26:45.879
<v Speaker 1>I can't remember them, and I'm on like seven places

0:26:45.960 --> 0:26:49.320
<v Speaker 1>doing seven different things. I don't think I lie at all.

0:26:50.640 --> 0:26:54.800
<v Speaker 1>If I do, you're gonna hear me contradict myself not

0:26:54.920 --> 0:26:57.480
<v Speaker 1>knowing it because I'm saying things in all these different places.

0:26:57.960 --> 0:27:00.640
<v Speaker 1>So I think number one is entertaining, Number two is

0:27:03.240 --> 0:27:07.280
<v Speaker 1>being honest and authentic, and then number three is being relatable.

0:27:07.720 --> 0:27:11.639
<v Speaker 1>Like I think relatability's fine and it's good, but like

0:27:11.680 --> 0:27:13.560
<v Speaker 1>your neighbors relatable, Do you want to listen to them

0:27:13.600 --> 0:27:16.399
<v Speaker 1>talk for an hour on a podcast? Probably not? I

0:27:16.400 --> 0:27:20.159
<v Speaker 1>mean maybe, but relatability was such a two thousands thing

0:27:20.200 --> 0:27:21.800
<v Speaker 1>where it was number one, and we still get this

0:27:21.840 --> 0:27:24.960
<v Speaker 1>research sometimes it's like you're not being relatable enough. I'm like, good,

0:27:25.160 --> 0:27:28.359
<v Speaker 1>does that mean I'm being way more entertaining because I

0:27:28.400 --> 0:27:31.280
<v Speaker 1>don't want to be fake relatable. If I were to

0:27:31.320 --> 0:27:33.920
<v Speaker 1>come on now and say the things that I said

0:27:33.960 --> 0:27:36.240
<v Speaker 1>fifteen years ago, you guys would know it was a lie.

0:27:36.720 --> 0:27:40.440
<v Speaker 1>If I came on and said things like, man, i

0:27:40.480 --> 0:27:43.640
<v Speaker 1>went to the vet and that bill was so high,

0:27:43.720 --> 0:27:45.639
<v Speaker 1>I'm thinking about not even like paying it and just

0:27:45.640 --> 0:27:47.920
<v Speaker 1>seeing what happens. That's a real thing that happens with people.

0:27:47.960 --> 0:27:49.600
<v Speaker 1>But you guys know I have money now because I've

0:27:49.640 --> 0:27:51.560
<v Speaker 1>been doing this for so long. Or if I'm like

0:27:51.600 --> 0:27:52.960
<v Speaker 1>I had to go buy a new set of tires

0:27:52.960 --> 0:27:55.080
<v Speaker 1>that's really really got me strapped this month, you guys

0:27:55.080 --> 0:27:57.360
<v Speaker 1>would know I was full of crap now. I had

0:27:57.359 --> 0:27:58.840
<v Speaker 1>to live a big part of my life like that.

0:27:58.960 --> 0:28:03.639
<v Speaker 1>But that's the relatability part that I understand because I

0:28:03.680 --> 0:28:05.000
<v Speaker 1>had it. But I don't have it anymore, so I

0:28:05.000 --> 0:28:09.399
<v Speaker 1>don't lie about that part anymore. So those are probably

0:28:09.600 --> 0:28:11.320
<v Speaker 1>and by the way, those aren't even that big of

0:28:11.320 --> 0:28:14.720
<v Speaker 1>a deal. Like, my job is pretty cool. I put

0:28:14.760 --> 0:28:15.879
<v Speaker 1>a lot of time and effort into it and a

0:28:15.920 --> 0:28:19.200
<v Speaker 1>lot of strategy, but my job's pretty cool, So I

0:28:19.240 --> 0:28:21.480
<v Speaker 1>don't complain about it much. Mostly if I do complain

0:28:21.520 --> 0:28:23.680
<v Speaker 1>about it, it's only if I'm complaining about beer with

0:28:23.760 --> 0:28:25.760
<v Speaker 1>Jesus and that song that almost kept me from coming here.

0:28:26.720 --> 0:28:39.120
<v Speaker 4>The Bobby Cast will be right back. This is the

0:28:39.200 --> 0:28:39.920
<v Speaker 4>Bobby Cast.

0:28:40.520 --> 0:28:46.840
<v Speaker 1>What do people assume about your success that isn't true?

0:28:48.200 --> 0:28:52.760
<v Speaker 1>I think you probably assume everything that's correct about this.

0:28:53.640 --> 0:28:56.560
<v Speaker 1>It is a lot of being on but who cares.

0:28:56.600 --> 0:29:01.160
<v Speaker 1>Like again, my stepdad worked at the mill, like I've

0:29:01.200 --> 0:29:04.560
<v Speaker 1>seen real work before, and I think this is real work,

0:29:04.600 --> 0:29:07.920
<v Speaker 1>but it's definitely not the same. So not to not

0:29:08.000 --> 0:29:10.240
<v Speaker 1>spend time on that question. But that was a little

0:29:10.240 --> 0:29:11.320
<v Speaker 1>bit like the last one. I didn't even why I

0:29:11.320 --> 0:29:13.960
<v Speaker 1>picked it, but thank you for sending it. Which moment

0:29:14.000 --> 0:29:16.720
<v Speaker 1>felt more like you made it your first big check

0:29:16.800 --> 0:29:23.320
<v Speaker 1>or your first big opportunity. That's interesting, my first big

0:29:23.400 --> 0:29:28.880
<v Speaker 1>check or my first big opportunity. Well, the first thing

0:29:28.920 --> 0:29:31.920
<v Speaker 1>I bought with what I felt was my first big

0:29:32.000 --> 0:29:35.280
<v Speaker 1>check was a pair of Jordans, white Jordans. I didn't

0:29:35.320 --> 0:29:37.560
<v Speaker 1>have nice shoes growing up, and if I did, I

0:29:37.560 --> 0:29:38.920
<v Speaker 1>got them at a yard sale. So I thought, the

0:29:38.960 --> 0:29:40.840
<v Speaker 1>first time I make money and I have money that

0:29:40.960 --> 0:29:42.479
<v Speaker 1>is more than just week to week, I'm gonna buy

0:29:42.520 --> 0:29:44.640
<v Speaker 1>me the coolest Jordans. And I bought a pair of

0:29:44.680 --> 0:29:49.880
<v Speaker 1>white Jordans. Sixes, like that's cool, that's special because I

0:29:49.920 --> 0:29:51.479
<v Speaker 1>still remember that. I still remember going to the mall.

0:29:51.480 --> 0:29:57.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm buying those. I bought my mom a trailer and

0:29:57.360 --> 0:30:00.320
<v Speaker 1>two acres of land before she died like that. From

0:30:00.360 --> 0:30:03.880
<v Speaker 1>another big check, like I signed a contract in Austin

0:30:03.920 --> 0:30:05.920
<v Speaker 1>I think for like four hundred thousand dollars a year.

0:30:07.400 --> 0:30:10.080
<v Speaker 1>Just walking back through my checks and what I made

0:30:10.120 --> 0:30:15.479
<v Speaker 1>per year. When I started in radio full time, I

0:30:15.560 --> 0:30:20.280
<v Speaker 1>made like sixteen thousand a year, and that was all hourly,

0:30:20.360 --> 0:30:22.920
<v Speaker 1>so it was sixteen thousand, but it was based on

0:30:24.160 --> 0:30:27.200
<v Speaker 1>nine dollars an hour or something like that. When I

0:30:27.280 --> 0:30:31.720
<v Speaker 1>went to Austin to do nights full time because I

0:30:31.720 --> 0:30:34.400
<v Speaker 1>went from Little Rock to Austin, I went for thirty

0:30:34.440 --> 0:30:37.000
<v Speaker 1>two thousand dollars a year and that was two thousand

0:30:37.040 --> 0:30:42.200
<v Speaker 1>and three. Late two thousand and two. When I got

0:30:42.200 --> 0:30:46.440
<v Speaker 1>the morning job in Austin and they paid me fifty

0:30:46.480 --> 0:30:48.800
<v Speaker 1>thousand dollars a year, I was rich. I really felt

0:30:48.800 --> 0:30:51.000
<v Speaker 1>like I was rich. It was the I think of

0:30:51.080 --> 0:30:53.960
<v Speaker 1>any of the Hey, we're going to sign a new contract.

0:30:54.800 --> 0:30:56.840
<v Speaker 1>There was more joy in that one than any other

0:30:56.960 --> 0:30:59.720
<v Speaker 1>deal that I had ever signed because it was the

0:30:59.800 --> 0:31:02.520
<v Speaker 1>first time that there was this entirely new feeling of

0:31:05.240 --> 0:31:12.719
<v Speaker 1>I don't feel fundamentally like I am just swimming as

0:31:12.760 --> 0:31:16.520
<v Speaker 1>hard as I can to stay above water. And that

0:31:16.560 --> 0:31:19.160
<v Speaker 1>fifty thousand dollars a year was crazy. I could not

0:31:19.280 --> 0:31:23.920
<v Speaker 1>believe it. So that job, and you know, by the

0:31:23.960 --> 0:31:27.960
<v Speaker 1>time I left Austin, it was four or five hundred

0:31:27.960 --> 0:31:32.000
<v Speaker 1>thousand dollars a year, and that's pretty good. But that

0:31:32.080 --> 0:31:34.000
<v Speaker 1>was also like bonuses, like we were number one for

0:31:36.600 --> 0:31:39.400
<v Speaker 1>like five years in a row. And when I say that,

0:31:39.440 --> 0:31:42.280
<v Speaker 1>I mean every quarter. They would have a ratings book,

0:31:44.520 --> 0:31:46.800
<v Speaker 1>and if I hit for four quarters in a row,

0:31:46.880 --> 0:31:49.840
<v Speaker 1>I got a bonus of like seventy five thousand dollars,

0:31:49.880 --> 0:31:51.280
<v Speaker 1>and four years in a row, I hit that freaking

0:31:51.320 --> 0:31:56.040
<v Speaker 1>bonus like we would crush in Austin. And so when

0:31:56.080 --> 0:31:59.440
<v Speaker 1>you ask the question, first big check or first big opportunity, like,

0:31:59.480 --> 0:32:01.760
<v Speaker 1>those are the checks that I think of. The other

0:32:01.920 --> 0:32:06.160
<v Speaker 1>check that I think of. I had gone and I

0:32:06.200 --> 0:32:08.560
<v Speaker 1>had done some episodes on American Idol that first season,

0:32:09.760 --> 0:32:15.040
<v Speaker 1>and they had me come in for one episode and

0:32:15.080 --> 0:32:17.880
<v Speaker 1>it was really to talk to kids, kids, young adults,

0:32:17.880 --> 0:32:21.000
<v Speaker 1>but mostly kids on this show about what it was

0:32:21.360 --> 0:32:26.040
<v Speaker 1>like to be interviewed by multiple people and walk them

0:32:26.040 --> 0:32:28.280
<v Speaker 1>through the process of like how to start over at

0:32:28.280 --> 0:32:32.880
<v Speaker 1>the next interview and how to have your your microphone

0:32:32.880 --> 0:32:34.280
<v Speaker 1>close to your mouth. But really that's what it was.

0:32:34.320 --> 0:32:36.200
<v Speaker 1>It was like how to be interviewed. So I go

0:32:36.240 --> 0:32:38.080
<v Speaker 1>when I do that. But what I found, and what

0:32:38.080 --> 0:32:42.840
<v Speaker 1>they found too, was that I understood what a lot

0:32:42.880 --> 0:32:44.760
<v Speaker 1>of those young adults and kids were going through because

0:32:44.840 --> 0:32:47.000
<v Speaker 1>until I had been sent to New York or Los

0:32:47.000 --> 0:32:48.760
<v Speaker 1>Angeles for work, I'd never been to New York or

0:32:48.840 --> 0:32:51.000
<v Speaker 1>Los Angeles. And then when I got there, I was like, Wow,

0:32:51.040 --> 0:32:53.160
<v Speaker 1>this is like television. I was overwhelmed a bit, as

0:32:53.200 --> 0:32:55.760
<v Speaker 1>were they, and so they kept me on. I did

0:32:55.840 --> 0:32:59.080
<v Speaker 1>multiple episodes, and I've told the story and I talked

0:32:59.080 --> 0:33:01.560
<v Speaker 1>about it, I think in my seal, which is not

0:33:01.640 --> 0:33:04.480
<v Speaker 1>even available because once CMT air did, I put it

0:33:04.520 --> 0:33:10.040
<v Speaker 1>on YouTube and then never pushed load. I guess I

0:33:10.080 --> 0:33:14.000
<v Speaker 1>loaded it. I just never made it public. I talked

0:33:14.040 --> 0:33:16.240
<v Speaker 1>about that and how I lost money for like three

0:33:16.240 --> 0:33:18.640
<v Speaker 1>episodes because American Idol didn't even know that I didn't

0:33:18.680 --> 0:33:20.720
<v Speaker 1>live in Los Angeles. They thought I lived there. Because

0:33:20.720 --> 0:33:22.760
<v Speaker 1>I didn't want them to use that as a reason

0:33:22.840 --> 0:33:24.800
<v Speaker 1>not to hire me for another episode. So they were

0:33:24.800 --> 0:33:26.760
<v Speaker 1>paying me union minimum, and by the time I was

0:33:26.760 --> 0:33:28.480
<v Speaker 1>paying for my flights at my hotel, I was losing

0:33:28.640 --> 0:33:30.760
<v Speaker 1>hundreds of dollars, just hundreds of dollars, but still money

0:33:31.240 --> 0:33:34.840
<v Speaker 1>an episode. So for like three episodes, I lost money,

0:33:35.320 --> 0:33:36.760
<v Speaker 1>and so they asked me to come back and do

0:33:36.800 --> 0:33:39.120
<v Speaker 1>more episodes, and I was like, Okay, I have to

0:33:39.800 --> 0:33:41.720
<v Speaker 1>make a confession to you. Guess I don't live here.

0:33:42.760 --> 0:33:45.520
<v Speaker 1>And so my manager at the time was like, we'll

0:33:45.520 --> 0:33:47.360
<v Speaker 1>get you a higher rate, and so they paid me

0:33:47.400 --> 0:33:49.280
<v Speaker 1>for like the last couple episodes fifty thousand dollars an

0:33:49.280 --> 0:33:52.320
<v Speaker 1>episode on American Idol that first season. So first season ends,

0:33:52.320 --> 0:33:54.560
<v Speaker 1>and this is pre we're doing a prequel here to

0:33:54.600 --> 0:33:59.360
<v Speaker 1>that story. I told earlier that first season ends, and

0:34:00.040 --> 0:34:01.520
<v Speaker 1>I had heard they were going to offer me a

0:34:01.560 --> 0:34:04.840
<v Speaker 1>deal for another season, maybe two, And I'm thinking, if

0:34:04.880 --> 0:34:06.840
<v Speaker 1>they just pay me like that fifty thousand dollars an episode,

0:34:06.840 --> 0:34:09.520
<v Speaker 1>that's going to be awesome. And so they made an

0:34:09.520 --> 0:34:11.720
<v Speaker 1>offer to me, and it was like three hundred thousand dollars.

0:34:12.480 --> 0:34:16.040
<v Speaker 1>I would have said yes immediately, my manager, whose name

0:34:16.120 --> 0:34:19.240
<v Speaker 1>is Corn Capshaw, who's the owner of Red Light Management,

0:34:20.120 --> 0:34:22.960
<v Speaker 1>he said, don't take it, I love. What are you

0:34:23.000 --> 0:34:26.200
<v Speaker 1>talking about? He goes, if you just say no, they're

0:34:26.239 --> 0:34:29.040
<v Speaker 1>going to offer you more. And I said, are you sure?

0:34:31.239 --> 0:34:33.720
<v Speaker 1>And he said, well, you really can't be sure of anything.

0:34:36.040 --> 0:34:38.600
<v Speaker 1>And I thought, if I say no to this, they're

0:34:38.600 --> 0:34:41.600
<v Speaker 1>offered me a full time job on this show. They're

0:34:41.600 --> 0:34:44.160
<v Speaker 1>offering me three hundred thousand dollars or something like that

0:34:44.200 --> 0:34:47.960
<v Speaker 1>all in, and if I say no, they may go, well,

0:34:47.960 --> 0:34:50.319
<v Speaker 1>there's eleven of you here in La more than that

0:34:50.320 --> 0:34:51.799
<v Speaker 1>that we can hire to put on the show. And

0:34:51.840 --> 0:34:54.319
<v Speaker 1>he said, if I were you as your manager, I

0:34:54.360 --> 0:34:57.040
<v Speaker 1>can't say no. But I'm going to say you should

0:34:57.040 --> 0:35:00.920
<v Speaker 1>say no to this. And so I trusted them and

0:35:00.960 --> 0:35:03.719
<v Speaker 1>I said, guys, I don't feel like you're paying me enough.

0:35:03.760 --> 0:35:06.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna say no. Their next offer was one point

0:35:06.040 --> 0:35:09.040
<v Speaker 1>two million dollars and I said, yes, immediately, that's a

0:35:09.040 --> 0:35:12.839
<v Speaker 1>big check. That's a big that's a big check. That's

0:35:12.840 --> 0:35:15.800
<v Speaker 1>pretty cool. And then I don't know what the weird

0:35:15.880 --> 0:35:18.799
<v Speaker 1>part about that question is your first big opportunity. I

0:35:18.840 --> 0:35:21.160
<v Speaker 1>don't feel like I ever just had this massive opportunity

0:35:21.160 --> 0:35:24.480
<v Speaker 1>that came to me out of nowhere, or this opportunity

0:35:24.480 --> 0:35:26.839
<v Speaker 1>that just showed up because they're like, we think you're

0:35:26.880 --> 0:35:29.719
<v Speaker 1>so great, here's a big opportunity. Everything that I've been

0:35:29.760 --> 0:35:33.560
<v Speaker 1>doing has been one small ladder rung and then one

0:35:33.600 --> 0:35:35.319
<v Speaker 1>small ladder rung, and then I fall down a couple

0:35:35.280 --> 0:35:37.520
<v Speaker 1>of lodder rungs, and then I climb up three small

0:35:37.560 --> 0:35:39.520
<v Speaker 1>ladder rungs. Like, I don't really feel like I've ever

0:35:39.520 --> 0:35:42.239
<v Speaker 1>had a massive jump that either didn't have a lot

0:35:42.280 --> 0:35:46.560
<v Speaker 1>of risk involved or really wasn't that massive because I'd

0:35:46.560 --> 0:35:48.560
<v Speaker 1>been working on it for so long behind the scenes.

0:35:49.840 --> 0:35:54.799
<v Speaker 1>So I'm gonna say you made it was the big

0:35:54.920 --> 0:35:58.799
<v Speaker 1>checks because there was never just a massive opportunity that

0:35:58.840 --> 0:36:05.919
<v Speaker 1>presented itself that I wasn't either killing myself to get. Yeah,

0:36:06.600 --> 0:36:09.719
<v Speaker 1>it's the money, And I've never really done anything just

0:36:09.719 --> 0:36:13.319
<v Speaker 1>for money. I've probably taken a couple speaking engagements, but

0:36:13.560 --> 0:36:15.799
<v Speaker 1>that's one day, and those pay really well. If it's

0:36:15.840 --> 0:36:19.160
<v Speaker 1>a private speaking engagement or a private like just me

0:36:19.320 --> 0:36:23.160
<v Speaker 1>going up to do some jokes, that's significant. So I've

0:36:23.160 --> 0:36:24.759
<v Speaker 1>done that for money, but I've never like taken on

0:36:24.800 --> 0:36:27.400
<v Speaker 1>a whole project for money. I did the Yellowstone podcast,

0:36:27.880 --> 0:36:29.759
<v Speaker 1>and I thought that was a good relationship builder. I

0:36:29.840 --> 0:36:31.920
<v Speaker 1>kind of regret doing that. It wasn't that Yellowstone was

0:36:31.960 --> 0:36:33.080
<v Speaker 1>bad to work with. It wasn't the Paramo I was

0:36:33.120 --> 0:36:35.120
<v Speaker 1>bad to work with. That production company was terrible, and the

0:36:35.200 --> 0:36:38.040
<v Speaker 1>producer of that was just really awful. And when he

0:36:38.080 --> 0:36:39.759
<v Speaker 1>sent the email that was like, you're not famous enough

0:36:39.760 --> 0:36:43.960
<v Speaker 1>to get big guests, because I said, hey, why don't

0:36:44.000 --> 0:36:45.839
<v Speaker 1>we get Kevin Costner? Why don't we get and he

0:36:45.880 --> 0:36:47.359
<v Speaker 1>was like, yeah, if you were famous, we could get them,

0:36:47.360 --> 0:36:50.479
<v Speaker 1>but you're not famous enough. And I was like, okay, cool.

0:36:50.640 --> 0:36:52.720
<v Speaker 1>I had Costner on my show like four weeks prior.

0:36:53.640 --> 0:36:55.799
<v Speaker 1>I felt pretty good about sending that email off. But

0:36:55.880 --> 0:37:01.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna go checks. Is AI going to run creativity

0:37:02.000 --> 0:37:05.160
<v Speaker 1>or is AI going to enhance it? That's the question.

0:37:06.200 --> 0:37:08.040
<v Speaker 1>My answer is going to be the AI is going

0:37:08.080 --> 0:37:13.400
<v Speaker 1>to enhance it. I think everything has always been enhanced

0:37:13.520 --> 0:37:19.000
<v Speaker 1>by things that were going to ruin creativity. And I

0:37:19.040 --> 0:37:20.680
<v Speaker 1>can walk you through this. I've thought about it this

0:37:20.719 --> 0:37:23.960
<v Speaker 1>a bit because I love AI. I make AI teasers

0:37:24.360 --> 0:37:28.040
<v Speaker 1>for upcoming guests on the Bobbycast. So if we go

0:37:28.200 --> 0:37:35.040
<v Speaker 1>back the printing press in the fourteen hundreds, people said

0:37:35.040 --> 0:37:39.000
<v Speaker 1>that the printing press would kill memory, it would kill

0:37:39.239 --> 0:37:43.160
<v Speaker 1>oral tradition, like just telling stories into your buddy's ear,

0:37:43.400 --> 0:37:47.600
<v Speaker 1>and Papa would tell grandkids' stories, and it would kill

0:37:47.600 --> 0:37:51.880
<v Speaker 1>the sacred art of hand copying texts. So the printing

0:37:51.920 --> 0:37:55.319
<v Speaker 1>press was going to ruin creativity in the fourteen hundreds.

0:37:55.880 --> 0:38:00.400
<v Speaker 1>In the eighteen hundreds, photography was going to run create activity.

0:38:01.400 --> 0:38:07.279
<v Speaker 1>Painters were pissed at photography, and so people were like,

0:38:07.400 --> 0:38:11.359
<v Speaker 1>that's it, it's over. These machines are taking pictures. It's

0:38:11.400 --> 0:38:15.120
<v Speaker 1>not the human hand anymore. Why paint when you can

0:38:15.239 --> 0:38:22.600
<v Speaker 1>just click? Then, recorded music in the nineteen hundreds, live

0:38:22.719 --> 0:38:29.839
<v Speaker 1>musicians panicked. Sheet music aficionados I don't even know what

0:38:29.880 --> 0:38:33.799
<v Speaker 1>you call that, like publishers, they went ballistic. The whole

0:38:33.800 --> 0:38:37.680
<v Speaker 1>thought was if music is put on a vinyl or

0:38:38.200 --> 0:38:39.520
<v Speaker 1>on a way that people will not go to live

0:38:39.560 --> 0:38:44.440
<v Speaker 1>shows anymore, that was ruining creativity. You can go to

0:38:44.480 --> 0:38:48.520
<v Speaker 1>the nineteen seventies or the nineteen eighties synthesizers and drum machines.

0:38:50.160 --> 0:38:54.000
<v Speaker 1>Traditional musicians said it was fake, it was robotic, it

0:38:54.080 --> 0:38:59.200
<v Speaker 1>was soulless. That's not real music. Now, that's so much

0:38:59.200 --> 0:39:01.839
<v Speaker 1>a part of real music. Pop, hip hop, dm even

0:39:01.840 --> 0:39:06.399
<v Speaker 1>country sampling in the eighties and the nineties, like old

0:39:06.440 --> 0:39:11.200
<v Speaker 1>school purists said that borrowing other clips of other songs

0:39:11.840 --> 0:39:15.960
<v Speaker 1>was just theft, not art, that it was just noise

0:39:16.040 --> 0:39:21.320
<v Speaker 1>not music. Are you seeing the patterns here? Auto tune

0:39:21.360 --> 0:39:24.400
<v Speaker 1>in the nineties, I think Share Believe was the first

0:39:24.520 --> 0:39:26.879
<v Speaker 1>auto tune song that was a hit. T Paining gets

0:39:26.920 --> 0:39:28.560
<v Speaker 1>all the credit because that he made it his thing,

0:39:28.719 --> 0:39:30.680
<v Speaker 1>which is weird because Tea paink could really really sing,

0:39:30.880 --> 0:39:32.880
<v Speaker 1>so it was a stylistic choice for Tea pain more

0:39:32.880 --> 0:39:38.440
<v Speaker 1>than anything else. YouTube and social media in the two thousands,

0:39:39.560 --> 0:39:41.279
<v Speaker 1>people said it was just kids making dumb videos, and

0:39:41.280 --> 0:39:44.080
<v Speaker 1>then when it started to catch on, it was it's

0:39:44.120 --> 0:39:46.239
<v Speaker 1>not really television. But then when it got so big,

0:39:46.280 --> 0:39:48.239
<v Speaker 1>it was like television's done. Everything's gonna be done on

0:39:48.239 --> 0:39:54.560
<v Speaker 1>YouTube for a nickel streaming services. So my only point

0:39:54.640 --> 0:39:59.840
<v Speaker 1>here about that question is every generation thinks that the

0:40:00.000 --> 0:40:03.799
<v Speaker 1>the next part of technology is killing creativity. But the

0:40:03.840 --> 0:40:07.080
<v Speaker 1>thing about creativity is it doesn't die, it adapts. It

0:40:07.120 --> 0:40:13.160
<v Speaker 1>always has AI isn't the end of originality. It is

0:40:13.400 --> 0:40:16.680
<v Speaker 1>just a really cool tool in the box, and I

0:40:16.719 --> 0:40:18.880
<v Speaker 1>think all of those have been tools in the box

0:40:18.920 --> 0:40:24.520
<v Speaker 1>so far. It can't replace human emotion or experience or taste.

0:40:25.920 --> 0:40:29.719
<v Speaker 1>It can only reflect it based on what it's built on.

0:40:30.560 --> 0:40:34.680
<v Speaker 1>So I can understand people getting upset about AI at times,

0:40:35.840 --> 0:40:38.399
<v Speaker 1>but remember people got upset the printing press. And that's

0:40:38.400 --> 0:40:40.160
<v Speaker 1>what I want you to say. The next time someone's

0:40:40.160 --> 0:40:42.520
<v Speaker 1>like AI is ruining music, Say ah, you sound like

0:40:42.520 --> 0:40:46.480
<v Speaker 1>someone in fourteen eighteen complaining about the printing press. But

0:40:46.560 --> 0:40:49.080
<v Speaker 1>I think AI is great and if you don't use it,

0:40:49.080 --> 0:40:51.440
<v Speaker 1>you're going to get crushed by someone else. That is,

0:40:51.760 --> 0:40:59.080
<v Speaker 1>because again it's a tool. Next question, what's one story

0:40:59.120 --> 0:41:02.880
<v Speaker 1>from behind the scenes Bobby Bone show you've never told?

0:41:03.840 --> 0:41:06.719
<v Speaker 1>I guess I'm feeling a bit nostalgic. So there was

0:41:06.800 --> 0:41:09.440
<v Speaker 1>a point during the show when I knew we were

0:41:09.440 --> 0:41:12.279
<v Speaker 1>moving to Nashville, but I could not tell anybody else

0:41:12.320 --> 0:41:14.600
<v Speaker 1>on the show we were moving to Nashville because I

0:41:14.640 --> 0:41:17.239
<v Speaker 1>hadn't even decided who I was gonna take because it

0:41:17.280 --> 0:41:18.680
<v Speaker 1>was so new to me. But they said, you can't

0:41:18.680 --> 0:41:21.960
<v Speaker 1>tell anybody because legally there are people that can't know.

0:41:23.480 --> 0:41:26.000
<v Speaker 1>And I'm not sure if it was because they needed

0:41:26.040 --> 0:41:27.880
<v Speaker 1>to be moved, because a lot of the shows that

0:41:27.880 --> 0:41:29.839
<v Speaker 1>were on in the mornings when we came on around

0:41:29.880 --> 0:41:32.400
<v Speaker 1>the country either got moved to like middays or afternoons

0:41:32.680 --> 0:41:34.040
<v Speaker 1>or some of them were like go before we even

0:41:34.080 --> 0:41:36.160
<v Speaker 1>came on, Like I didn't have any control over any

0:41:36.200 --> 0:41:39.080
<v Speaker 1>of that. But because of that, I couldn't talk about it,

0:41:39.120 --> 0:41:41.600
<v Speaker 1>couldn't tell anybody about it. And so there were a

0:41:41.600 --> 0:41:44.920
<v Speaker 1>couple of stories specifically that come to mind. Amy was

0:41:44.960 --> 0:41:49.200
<v Speaker 1>trying to buy a house in Austin and she had

0:41:49.200 --> 0:41:52.719
<v Speaker 1>moved to North Carolina. She worked remotely from North Carolina

0:41:52.840 --> 0:41:54.640
<v Speaker 1>for a couple of years because her husband at the

0:41:54.680 --> 0:41:57.319
<v Speaker 1>time now our ex husband, was in the military, and

0:41:57.600 --> 0:41:59.680
<v Speaker 1>she worked on the show with us in Austin. I'd

0:41:59.680 --> 0:42:02.719
<v Speaker 1>built that whole syndication company myself in Austin, and so

0:42:02.880 --> 0:42:05.120
<v Speaker 1>because I did that, I had the leverage to say

0:42:05.160 --> 0:42:06.880
<v Speaker 1>we're keep an Amy. And it was kind of unheard

0:42:06.880 --> 0:42:08.600
<v Speaker 1>of to have a co host that wasn't in the

0:42:08.600 --> 0:42:12.600
<v Speaker 1>same room with you. And so Amy was working in

0:42:12.600 --> 0:42:15.960
<v Speaker 1>North Carolina moving back to Austin. Everybody was pumped because

0:42:15.960 --> 0:42:17.200
<v Speaker 1>she was gonna be back in the room with us.

0:42:17.600 --> 0:42:19.319
<v Speaker 1>But if she was moving back and looking for a house,

0:42:19.360 --> 0:42:21.839
<v Speaker 1>that's when it's okay, I'm taking the Nashville job. I said,

0:42:21.840 --> 0:42:23.440
<v Speaker 1>I gotta tell Amy she's gonna buy a house, and

0:42:23.560 --> 0:42:27.759
<v Speaker 1>like a week. They wouldn't let me do it. And

0:42:27.800 --> 0:42:29.800
<v Speaker 1>I said to them, she may not take the job

0:42:29.960 --> 0:42:32.840
<v Speaker 1>if she buys a house. They would not let me

0:42:32.880 --> 0:42:36.640
<v Speaker 1>do it. She put an offer in on a house,

0:42:37.280 --> 0:42:41.080
<v Speaker 1>they accepted the offer, and for some reason, part of

0:42:41.120 --> 0:42:46.560
<v Speaker 1>the contingency fell through and the house was never able

0:42:46.600 --> 0:42:48.080
<v Speaker 1>to be bought. It was just like taking off the

0:42:48.120 --> 0:42:51.759
<v Speaker 1>market or something. And thank god that happened, because I

0:42:51.760 --> 0:42:53.400
<v Speaker 1>don't know that Amy would have come to Nashville with this,

0:42:53.760 --> 0:42:56.520
<v Speaker 1>not because of me, but because her and her husband

0:42:56.520 --> 0:43:00.719
<v Speaker 1>had just bought a house. So that one. And then

0:43:00.800 --> 0:43:02.880
<v Speaker 1>Ray Mundo where Ray Mundo had come to me, and

0:43:04.200 --> 0:43:06.360
<v Speaker 1>Ray was an intern for me. And the way that

0:43:06.400 --> 0:43:11.480
<v Speaker 1>I met Ray was he was doing internships for different

0:43:11.560 --> 0:43:13.600
<v Speaker 1>radio stations in the building and he was an intern

0:43:13.680 --> 0:43:18.040
<v Speaker 1>for the sports station called thirteen hundred Zone in Austin,

0:43:19.040 --> 0:43:21.200
<v Speaker 1>and they asked me if I would fill in on

0:43:21.280 --> 0:43:23.200
<v Speaker 1>like a holiday or two, and I was like, that's cool.

0:43:23.239 --> 0:43:26.400
<v Speaker 1>I love sports, why not? And I needed a producer

0:43:26.480 --> 0:43:27.759
<v Speaker 1>and he was producing and I said, hey, man, do

0:43:27.760 --> 0:43:29.520
<v Speaker 1>you want to produce this sports show? I didn't know him,

0:43:29.680 --> 0:43:31.160
<v Speaker 1>and he was like, yeah, I would love to. That's

0:43:31.160 --> 0:43:33.120
<v Speaker 1>how we knew each other. Then he came as an

0:43:33.160 --> 0:43:36.040
<v Speaker 1>intern on the show. He was never a paid employee

0:43:36.080 --> 0:43:39.160
<v Speaker 1>in Austin before I moved to Nashville, but I knew

0:43:39.160 --> 0:43:41.520
<v Speaker 1>he wanted to be, and I was trying to help

0:43:41.560 --> 0:43:43.279
<v Speaker 1>him find a job in some other city anywhere, because

0:43:43.360 --> 0:43:44.680
<v Speaker 1>Ray just wanted to go and work and make a

0:43:44.719 --> 0:43:48.000
<v Speaker 1>living out of doing radio. And I called him in

0:43:48.040 --> 0:43:49.960
<v Speaker 1>the office and I knew I was going to Nashville,

0:43:50.040 --> 0:43:51.719
<v Speaker 1>and I said, hey, man, I think I got you

0:43:51.760 --> 0:43:55.399
<v Speaker 1>an offer in a different city. Do you care where

0:43:55.400 --> 0:43:57.040
<v Speaker 1>it is? But I can't tell you right now? And

0:43:57.120 --> 0:43:59.520
<v Speaker 1>he's like, I don't care. I'm going. Said, okay, I

0:43:59.520 --> 0:44:02.360
<v Speaker 1>can tell you that city where the offer is, but

0:44:02.400 --> 0:44:05.959
<v Speaker 1>I can't tell you really the show because of some legals.

0:44:06.000 --> 0:44:07.719
<v Speaker 1>He's like, it's fine. I said, I really trust this

0:44:07.800 --> 0:44:09.480
<v Speaker 1>show and I think you're gonna do great there, and

0:44:09.520 --> 0:44:11.400
<v Speaker 1>they want you as like the head audio producer and

0:44:11.440 --> 0:44:14.000
<v Speaker 1>he's cloud nine, like is the most exciting thing ever

0:44:14.040 --> 0:44:15.799
<v Speaker 1>to him, and I get it because I know what

0:44:15.840 --> 0:44:17.960
<v Speaker 1>that felt like. And I said, the show's in Nashville,

0:44:18.000 --> 0:44:20.239
<v Speaker 1>but I can't say much else, and he's like, this

0:44:20.400 --> 0:44:22.080
<v Speaker 1>is awesome. I'm moving to Nashville. And it was a

0:44:22.080 --> 0:44:23.560
<v Speaker 1>while before I coul tell him the show was actually

0:44:23.600 --> 0:44:26.680
<v Speaker 1>me and that he was going to move with us,

0:44:26.760 --> 0:44:29.719
<v Speaker 1>and his first paid job was with me in Nashville

0:44:30.080 --> 0:44:38.120
<v Speaker 1>and now paid. Ray has been thirteen years man looking

0:44:38.160 --> 0:44:40.919
<v Speaker 1>back at all the guys on the show, like Amy

0:44:40.960 --> 0:44:45.600
<v Speaker 1>and Lunchbox, about just about twenty years, Ray thirteen years,

0:44:45.800 --> 0:44:49.399
<v Speaker 1>Eddie thirteen fourteen years. Like our crew has been together

0:44:49.440 --> 0:44:51.680
<v Speaker 1>a long time. But I would say that's a behind

0:44:51.680 --> 0:44:54.799
<v Speaker 1>the scenes story that really doesn't get shared a whole lot.

0:44:55.000 --> 0:44:58.600
<v Speaker 1>I haven't really thought about it. I'll do a couple more.

0:44:58.680 --> 0:45:01.400
<v Speaker 1>We're just doing fifty minutes. Oh, this is full fifty

0:45:01.400 --> 0:45:05.000
<v Speaker 1>minutes club here. What's the most overrated artist of all time?

0:45:05.880 --> 0:45:08.160
<v Speaker 1>We talked about this on the radio show recently. I

0:45:08.160 --> 0:45:10.200
<v Speaker 1>can go into a little more depth on mine. I

0:45:10.200 --> 0:45:12.719
<v Speaker 1>think the most overrated artist of all time is a band,

0:45:12.800 --> 0:45:16.279
<v Speaker 1>and I think it's Youtwoe. Now that doesn't mean I

0:45:16.280 --> 0:45:18.319
<v Speaker 1>don't think they're good or even great, because I do

0:45:18.400 --> 0:45:22.840
<v Speaker 1>really like you too, but I think it's okay to

0:45:22.920 --> 0:45:26.759
<v Speaker 1>say you two is really good, but also feel they're

0:45:26.760 --> 0:45:29.760
<v Speaker 1>a bit overrated, and I can give you some reasons

0:45:32.280 --> 0:45:37.120
<v Speaker 1>they get classic airplay consideration, like on classic rock stations

0:45:37.120 --> 0:45:40.759
<v Speaker 1>for songs that weren't even hits, like Vertigo wasn't even

0:45:40.760 --> 0:45:42.680
<v Speaker 1>a hit. It plays on classic rock, like just because

0:45:42.680 --> 0:45:46.200
<v Speaker 1>they're you two, they just play their songs and I

0:45:46.200 --> 0:45:47.839
<v Speaker 1>can get it more to that just because they're you two.

0:45:48.080 --> 0:45:50.839
<v Speaker 1>But even like Elevation, that's not sweet Child of Mind

0:45:50.880 --> 0:45:52.960
<v Speaker 1>and that's not smells like teen Spirit, So it gets

0:45:53.000 --> 0:45:55.360
<v Speaker 1>played on like classic rock and even alternative stations they

0:45:55.360 --> 0:45:57.680
<v Speaker 1>won't even hit back in the day. Okay, that's a

0:45:57.719 --> 0:46:00.920
<v Speaker 1>dumb one, but I'll put it there. Bono at times

0:46:01.080 --> 0:46:04.239
<v Speaker 1>is so annoying that his persona, the character he plays,

0:46:04.239 --> 0:46:07.160
<v Speaker 1>gonna overshadow the music and make you not like the band. Now.

0:46:07.200 --> 0:46:10.800
<v Speaker 1>I think it's great to be an activist, but I

0:46:10.840 --> 0:46:14.000
<v Speaker 1>feel like he's activist first, and maybe his glasses just

0:46:14.040 --> 0:46:17.040
<v Speaker 1>pissed me off. Like those glasses aren't even real sunglasses.

0:46:17.040 --> 0:46:19.719
<v Speaker 1>I'm wearing sunglasses right now because I got lights right

0:46:19.719 --> 0:46:21.879
<v Speaker 1>in my eyeballs, but like he wears the clear ones,

0:46:21.880 --> 0:46:27.120
<v Speaker 1>they're not even sunglasses. But I feel like Bono's like

0:46:27.239 --> 0:46:29.920
<v Speaker 1>Messiah complex even at times, and I don't know them,

0:46:29.960 --> 0:46:34.839
<v Speaker 1>but that can dominate the narrative of youtwo. So even

0:46:34.840 --> 0:46:38.319
<v Speaker 1>if the music's good. People that really love Bono are like, no, no,

0:46:38.400 --> 0:46:42.640
<v Speaker 1>it's different. It's different. The iTunes thing still hits people

0:46:43.120 --> 0:46:47.960
<v Speaker 1>because back in the day twenty fourteen ish, it was

0:46:48.000 --> 0:46:49.799
<v Speaker 1>before the Couple in the World Series, but not way

0:46:49.840 --> 0:46:53.760
<v Speaker 1>before the Couple in the World Series, that album Songs

0:46:53.800 --> 0:46:59.560
<v Speaker 1>of Innocence was put on everybody's freaking iPod or iPhone.

0:47:00.080 --> 0:47:02.799
<v Speaker 1>I guess I had to be iphoned. And so there

0:47:02.880 --> 0:47:05.239
<v Speaker 1>was this You two album that wasn't even that good

0:47:05.360 --> 0:47:09.799
<v Speaker 1>on everybody's iPhone. That did not help their legacy. And

0:47:09.840 --> 0:47:11.800
<v Speaker 1>I remember they gave You away to delete it like

0:47:11.880 --> 0:47:16.640
<v Speaker 1>a week later. That was significant. They haven't had a

0:47:16.680 --> 0:47:19.719
<v Speaker 1>really good album in like twenty years. I looked when

0:47:19.719 --> 0:47:21.200
<v Speaker 1>we were doing the segment for the show. They really

0:47:21.280 --> 0:47:25.880
<v Speaker 1>haven't had anything in twenty twenty five years. And then

0:47:26.880 --> 0:47:30.880
<v Speaker 1>it's almost like they've been treated as untouchable gods, like

0:47:31.000 --> 0:47:32.960
<v Speaker 1>rock and roll gods. They do deserve to be in

0:47:32.960 --> 0:47:35.040
<v Speaker 1>the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. I do like

0:47:35.080 --> 0:47:38.720
<v Speaker 1>you too, but they have been basically the moral compass

0:47:38.719 --> 0:47:43.280
<v Speaker 1>of rock, and that can wear thin when every album

0:47:43.719 --> 0:47:46.560
<v Speaker 1>that comes out is also like attached to a global cause,

0:47:46.600 --> 0:47:50.000
<v Speaker 1>and I love global causes. I do sign me up

0:47:50.040 --> 0:47:52.600
<v Speaker 1>for more global causes. But it's like every album that

0:47:52.680 --> 0:47:55.440
<v Speaker 1>comes out, it's like a different rainforest or something. It's like, bro,

0:47:55.520 --> 0:47:58.120
<v Speaker 1>sometimes we just want a song to sing. It's like

0:47:58.160 --> 0:48:00.160
<v Speaker 1>a Ted Talk. I don't need a Ted Talk for

0:48:00.160 --> 0:48:03.160
<v Speaker 1>every song that you put out, Bono, but I do

0:48:03.239 --> 0:48:05.319
<v Speaker 1>like you too, that's the weird thing. But I would

0:48:05.360 --> 0:48:08.040
<v Speaker 1>say I think you two has absolutely earned their place

0:48:08.080 --> 0:48:10.280
<v Speaker 1>in rock and roll Hall of Fame. I just don't

0:48:10.280 --> 0:48:14.040
<v Speaker 1>think they need a throne inside the rock and Roll

0:48:14.040 --> 0:48:16.480
<v Speaker 1>Hall of Fame to sit on and look down upon others.

0:48:17.000 --> 0:48:19.640
<v Speaker 2>Let's take a quick pause for a message from our sponsor,

0:48:28.480 --> 0:48:30.680
<v Speaker 2>and we're back on the Bobby Cast.

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<v Speaker 1>Another question, has country music lost its identity or has

0:48:35.960 --> 0:48:41.200
<v Speaker 1>country music evolved? Country music has always been losing quote,

0:48:41.239 --> 0:48:45.200
<v Speaker 1>its identity since it was even invented. There has never

0:48:45.239 --> 0:48:48.400
<v Speaker 1>been a time, there has never been a half decade

0:48:48.960 --> 0:48:54.640
<v Speaker 1>where people weren't saying that ain't real country music. And

0:48:54.680 --> 0:48:56.400
<v Speaker 1>we can walk through this too if you want. I

0:48:56.400 --> 0:48:58.400
<v Speaker 1>feel like I've done this Ted Talk one hundred times

0:48:59.600 --> 0:49:02.520
<v Speaker 1>because sin it's day one. People have said that country

0:49:02.560 --> 0:49:05.680
<v Speaker 1>music is just not what it used to be. But

0:49:05.760 --> 0:49:09.799
<v Speaker 1>country music has always been evolving and those changes are

0:49:09.840 --> 0:49:14.279
<v Speaker 1>what keeps country music alive. And you can kind of

0:49:14.280 --> 0:49:17.680
<v Speaker 1>walk through a decade by decade and look at every

0:49:17.719 --> 0:49:21.200
<v Speaker 1>time that someone said this ain't real country, which makes

0:49:21.200 --> 0:49:22.480
<v Speaker 1>you look at the people that say it now and

0:49:22.520 --> 0:49:25.120
<v Speaker 1>you look at them almost with sympathy, like you're kind

0:49:25.120 --> 0:49:27.440
<v Speaker 1>of dumb because it's been said over and over and

0:49:27.480 --> 0:49:30.560
<v Speaker 1>over again to things that were told that weren't country

0:49:30.560 --> 0:49:33.520
<v Speaker 1>that actually are again fundamentally what we think are country

0:49:33.600 --> 0:49:38.239
<v Speaker 1>music now, like the nineteen thirties, nineteen forties, and that's

0:49:38.239 --> 0:49:40.719
<v Speaker 1>back when the Grand Ole Opry started broadcasting, which I'm

0:49:40.719 --> 0:49:44.320
<v Speaker 1>going to tonight, by the way, still thriving. Critics claim

0:49:44.400 --> 0:49:47.120
<v Speaker 1>that the Opry was turning country music into a vaudeville

0:49:47.120 --> 0:49:49.839
<v Speaker 1>act because of the stage, because of the talking, because

0:49:49.840 --> 0:49:54.600
<v Speaker 1>of the fun back in the thirties and forties, And

0:49:54.719 --> 0:49:57.680
<v Speaker 1>I really credit that country music documentary on PBS. It

0:49:57.800 --> 0:50:03.240
<v Speaker 1>was fantastic. Bob Will introduced Western swing and fiddles mixed

0:50:03.239 --> 0:50:07.360
<v Speaker 1>with jazz, and the whole world, the country music world

0:50:07.400 --> 0:50:10.480
<v Speaker 1>turned over. And it's they're supposed to be dead grave

0:50:10.560 --> 0:50:15.000
<v Speaker 1>because they used an electric amp on a still guitar,

0:50:15.480 --> 0:50:18.640
<v Speaker 1>like that was not country. Isn't that crazy to think

0:50:18.680 --> 0:50:21.040
<v Speaker 1>like a still guitar. At one point, Amped Up was

0:50:21.080 --> 0:50:23.640
<v Speaker 1>not country music. But again, the people now that are

0:50:23.640 --> 0:50:26.120
<v Speaker 1>going they're in a country. That was them telling Bob Wills,

0:50:26.200 --> 0:50:30.319
<v Speaker 1>you ain't country, telling the Grand Ole Opry you ain't country.

0:50:30.400 --> 0:50:35.080
<v Speaker 1>In the nineteen fifties, it was too much rock and roll, Elvis,

0:50:35.120 --> 0:50:39.719
<v Speaker 1>Carl Perkins, Johnny Cash. They definitely blurred the lines with rockabilly.

0:50:40.920 --> 0:50:42.320
<v Speaker 1>And if you ever heard of the Nashville sound, it

0:50:42.360 --> 0:50:44.040
<v Speaker 1>was a much smoother type of country music. And the

0:50:44.120 --> 0:50:46.560
<v Speaker 1>Nashville sound comes to mind now because Brian Wilson just

0:50:46.600 --> 0:50:48.840
<v Speaker 1>died and Brian Wilson used the Wrecking Crew, and the

0:50:48.880 --> 0:50:56.440
<v Speaker 1>Wrecking Crew had, you know, these artists that were like

0:50:56.520 --> 0:50:59.080
<v Speaker 1>session players now, but the best. But that's what the

0:50:59.160 --> 0:51:03.360
<v Speaker 1>Nashville sound kind of turned into. Very slick. It was

0:51:03.400 --> 0:51:10.440
<v Speaker 1>like strings. It was an attempt to popularize pop up

0:51:10.520 --> 0:51:14.880
<v Speaker 1>country music. But old school fans called that sellout music.

0:51:16.280 --> 0:51:19.799
<v Speaker 1>But I mean, that's Patsy Klein, that's Jim Reeves, that's

0:51:19.880 --> 0:51:24.200
<v Speaker 1>things we look at now, that's country music. In the

0:51:24.239 --> 0:51:27.640
<v Speaker 1>seventies it was the outlaws are killing country music. What's

0:51:27.680 --> 0:51:29.840
<v Speaker 1>weird now is like the outlaws are man. That's my

0:51:29.880 --> 0:51:32.520
<v Speaker 1>favorite Outlaw era. But the Outlaws were told they weren't

0:51:32.520 --> 0:51:34.799
<v Speaker 1>country music by the same people. Now they're going, that's

0:51:34.800 --> 0:51:37.879
<v Speaker 1>not country music too. Insert whichever artists now they're mad at.

0:51:38.400 --> 0:51:40.400
<v Speaker 1>But in the seventies it was all about the outlaws

0:51:40.440 --> 0:51:42.520
<v Speaker 1>and how the outlaws are killing country music. Willie and

0:51:42.520 --> 0:51:46.640
<v Speaker 1>Whalen and Chris Christofferson. They rejected all of that, the

0:51:46.760 --> 0:51:53.680
<v Speaker 1>Nashville sound that was so smooth and polished. Critics called

0:51:54.000 --> 0:52:01.799
<v Speaker 1>the outlaw music disrespectful, not traditional. So the music we

0:52:01.880 --> 0:52:06.799
<v Speaker 1>look at now as what created country was looked at

0:52:06.840 --> 0:52:13.480
<v Speaker 1>then as what's ruining country. There's definitely a pattern with

0:52:13.600 --> 0:52:17.000
<v Speaker 1>annoying people going that ain't country. In the eighties it

0:52:17.080 --> 0:52:22.440
<v Speaker 1>got to pop Alabama, Kenny Rodgers, Dolly Parton, Like everybody's

0:52:22.440 --> 0:52:24.760
<v Speaker 1>like your pop artists, your pop artists, your pop artist.

0:52:25.040 --> 0:52:28.280
<v Speaker 1>I mean, heck, Kenny Rogers was actually a pop artist.

0:52:28.560 --> 0:52:32.640
<v Speaker 1>You know that song? Eh, what condition my condition was in?

0:52:33.000 --> 0:52:34.880
<v Speaker 1>That was Kenny Rogers. And I'm not gonna say he

0:52:34.920 --> 0:52:36.320
<v Speaker 1>was a failed pop artist, but he was a failed

0:52:36.320 --> 0:52:40.319
<v Speaker 1>pop artist who then came to country. Dolly bounced back

0:52:40.320 --> 0:52:45.160
<v Speaker 1>and forth because she could. Traditionalists were all pissed off

0:52:46.440 --> 0:52:49.120
<v Speaker 1>at all these pop artists that were making country. How

0:52:49.160 --> 0:52:54.120
<v Speaker 1>familiar does that sound right now? Probably very But they

0:52:54.160 --> 0:52:56.920
<v Speaker 1>expanded the country music audience. They made people listen that

0:52:56.960 --> 0:52:59.399
<v Speaker 1>normally wouldn't want to listen, while still dominated the country

0:52:59.480 --> 0:53:03.880
<v Speaker 1>charts and the Garth Garth's Gonna Run Country and a

0:53:03.920 --> 0:53:08.480
<v Speaker 1>lot of times because of his pyro stage shows, huge

0:53:08.480 --> 0:53:12.600
<v Speaker 1>crossover success. Circus. Garth does the circus, it's not even

0:53:12.600 --> 0:53:15.680
<v Speaker 1>a real tour. He became the biggest solo artist of

0:53:15.680 --> 0:53:19.360
<v Speaker 1>all time. And now we look at Garth. There's no

0:53:19.480 --> 0:53:22.200
<v Speaker 1>question Garth was country, but Garth was getting pushed back

0:53:22.239 --> 0:53:26.360
<v Speaker 1>on being country. Two thousands. That's what we kind of

0:53:26.400 --> 0:53:30.760
<v Speaker 1>got here broke country and that was beer and trucks

0:53:30.800 --> 0:53:35.319
<v Speaker 1>and girls, and country music lost its soul. But bro

0:53:35.400 --> 0:53:39.160
<v Speaker 1>country again did what some of those other generations were

0:53:39.160 --> 0:53:41.080
<v Speaker 1>they It brought new fans. The first time I heard

0:53:41.080 --> 0:53:42.880
<v Speaker 1>Nelly and Florida Georgian Line do Cruise, I was like,

0:53:42.920 --> 0:53:47.319
<v Speaker 1>that's it, And yeah, looking back, was it kind of lame? No? No,

0:53:47.400 --> 0:53:51.799
<v Speaker 1>it wasn't. It was awesome for the time. And I

0:53:51.840 --> 0:53:53.719
<v Speaker 1>think it sucks to say the word bro country to

0:53:53.800 --> 0:53:56.040
<v Speaker 1>like Luke Brian who's a friend of mine. But they

0:53:56.080 --> 0:53:58.120
<v Speaker 1>weren't doing bro country. To do bro country. That was

0:53:58.200 --> 0:53:59.920
<v Speaker 1>just a vibe at the time, And you're gonna tell

0:53:59.920 --> 0:54:03.200
<v Speaker 1>me that didn't bring tons of fans in. And it's

0:54:03.239 --> 0:54:05.719
<v Speaker 1>easy and it feels good to hate on bro country now,

0:54:06.440 --> 0:54:10.560
<v Speaker 1>but it was really good. Like it got corny because

0:54:10.600 --> 0:54:12.440
<v Speaker 1>everybody started doing it, and then it got very corny.

0:54:13.680 --> 0:54:16.520
<v Speaker 1>Today there's too much hip hop, there's too much pop,

0:54:17.920 --> 0:54:23.399
<v Speaker 1>Post Malone, Diplo, Beyonce. That ain't country, But what even

0:54:23.480 --> 0:54:25.640
<v Speaker 1>is country? And the one thing that has stayed consistent

0:54:25.640 --> 0:54:28.200
<v Speaker 1>with country music as it's always evolving, And the one

0:54:28.239 --> 0:54:30.160
<v Speaker 1>thing that stays consistent is people are going, well, that

0:54:30.200 --> 0:54:32.279
<v Speaker 1>ain't country. So the next time you see somebody go well,

0:54:32.280 --> 0:54:35.400
<v Speaker 1>that ain't country, just know they're a freaking idiot because

0:54:35.400 --> 0:54:37.360
<v Speaker 1>it's impossible to say what's not country. There are some

0:54:37.400 --> 0:54:39.840
<v Speaker 1>things now that could be happening that in ten years

0:54:39.880 --> 0:54:43.440
<v Speaker 1>won't still be country because the actual gatekeepers are the people,

0:54:43.480 --> 0:54:47.160
<v Speaker 1>the consumer. But when you see somebody or an article

0:54:47.200 --> 0:54:50.640
<v Speaker 1>written by whomever going this ain't country music, just know

0:54:50.840 --> 0:54:52.919
<v Speaker 1>they've called the Grand Ole Op revidable. And that same

0:54:53.000 --> 0:54:55.000
<v Speaker 1>rider was probably doing that in the thirties and forties

0:54:55.000 --> 0:54:58.280
<v Speaker 1>on a different timeline. They don't know anything about music

0:54:58.320 --> 0:55:04.560
<v Speaker 1>that you don't know. So had country music never changed

0:55:04.560 --> 0:55:06.400
<v Speaker 1>and also boxes for an hour, I'm not going to

0:55:07.040 --> 0:55:09.320
<v Speaker 1>it would have died in a barn in the thirties.

0:55:10.680 --> 0:55:14.000
<v Speaker 1>The only constant country music is that somebody always sucks

0:55:14.080 --> 0:55:20.799
<v Speaker 1>and it's changing it. So that's what's up. It's not

0:55:20.800 --> 0:55:24.680
<v Speaker 1>losing its identity. It's always trying to find its new identity,

0:55:25.400 --> 0:55:27.840
<v Speaker 1>is what I would say there. I want to do

0:55:27.880 --> 0:55:34.080
<v Speaker 1>two more questions. If you had one hour of uninterrupted

0:55:34.120 --> 0:55:36.439
<v Speaker 1>airtime that every American had to listen to, what would

0:55:36.440 --> 0:55:42.640
<v Speaker 1>you say? It's good? I think I would say that

0:55:42.640 --> 0:55:45.240
<v Speaker 1>we're all way, way way more alike than we are different,

0:55:45.840 --> 0:55:52.160
<v Speaker 1>and that politicians need to divide you to exist, like

0:55:52.239 --> 0:55:54.600
<v Speaker 1>they need to divide you like we need water and air.

0:55:56.320 --> 0:56:00.440
<v Speaker 1>So the politicians that you're a huge fan of, if

0:56:00.480 --> 0:56:02.560
<v Speaker 1>you are a huge fan of, they need you to

0:56:02.600 --> 0:56:06.080
<v Speaker 1>not like the other party because that's what's going to

0:56:06.120 --> 0:56:08.080
<v Speaker 1>motivate you. I watched this thing once and it was

0:56:08.080 --> 0:56:10.799
<v Speaker 1>one of those shows like twenty twenty your Nightline. They

0:56:10.800 --> 0:56:13.880
<v Speaker 1>had all these people that were trying to lose weight,

0:56:13.960 --> 0:56:17.400
<v Speaker 1>and they said, okay, we have this first group and

0:56:17.440 --> 0:56:20.920
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna give them the offer of if you lose

0:56:21.120 --> 0:56:23.759
<v Speaker 1>twenty pounds and eight weeks, we're gonna give you one

0:56:23.800 --> 0:56:26.120
<v Speaker 1>thousand dollars. We have this other group the same amount

0:56:26.160 --> 0:56:28.920
<v Speaker 1>of people, different people, but same amount. And if you

0:56:28.960 --> 0:56:32.120
<v Speaker 1>don't lose that weight, we've taken nude pictures of you.

0:56:32.160 --> 0:56:34.200
<v Speaker 1>We're gonna post them on the internet. So it was

0:56:34.239 --> 0:56:36.960
<v Speaker 1>positive versus negative reward. You know. The one that worked

0:56:36.960 --> 0:56:40.200
<v Speaker 1>that actually motivated people was the negative reward, like crazy,

0:56:40.239 --> 0:56:42.799
<v Speaker 1>because people are like, well, yeah, this sucks. I guess

0:56:42.800 --> 0:56:44.560
<v Speaker 1>I don't need the thousand. Well, people don't want their

0:56:44.560 --> 0:56:47.240
<v Speaker 1>wieners on the internet if they don't put it on there.

0:56:48.200 --> 0:56:52.040
<v Speaker 1>And so negativity always moves people. We've seen some really

0:56:52.080 --> 0:56:58.680
<v Speaker 1>bad things in history with negativity and division. So politicians

0:56:59.600 --> 0:57:06.200
<v Speaker 1>they yearn to divide generally, they need it. They need

0:57:06.239 --> 0:57:09.080
<v Speaker 1>you divided, and they need you fighting. And in that fight,

0:57:09.160 --> 0:57:14.200
<v Speaker 1>you need to fight for them. So you're more like

0:57:14.239 --> 0:57:18.760
<v Speaker 1>the person that you can't stand than you ever thought

0:57:18.840 --> 0:57:22.440
<v Speaker 1>you were. And the politicians that you know as mostly

0:57:22.520 --> 0:57:27.919
<v Speaker 1>being anti something, they're being pro something. Dirt balls. Dirt balls.

0:57:27.960 --> 0:57:30.240
<v Speaker 1>If you can think of like ten politicians and if

0:57:30.280 --> 0:57:31.800
<v Speaker 1>the first thing you think of is what they're against

0:57:31.880 --> 0:57:37.320
<v Speaker 1>instead of what they're for, dirt balls, broken system. That's

0:57:37.320 --> 0:57:44.479
<v Speaker 1>probably what I would say. One final question, what's one

0:57:44.600 --> 0:57:48.880
<v Speaker 1>conspiracy theory that you don't have to say you believe,

0:57:49.040 --> 0:57:53.440
<v Speaker 1>but you also can't let go of Epstein didn't kill himself.

0:57:55.800 --> 0:57:59.960
<v Speaker 1>There's no way Epstein kill himself. I mean there's a way,

0:58:00.040 --> 0:58:03.920
<v Speaker 1>I guess because I wasn't there, But just let me

0:58:04.000 --> 0:58:06.880
<v Speaker 1>lay out some stuff for you here. But Epstein and

0:58:07.000 --> 0:58:10.240
<v Speaker 1>supposedly now they're like, no, we saw it. I thought

0:58:10.280 --> 0:58:12.880
<v Speaker 1>the camera's broken. How can you see it now? Number One,

0:58:12.960 --> 0:58:16.040
<v Speaker 1>he was on suicide watch and then he was mysteriously

0:58:16.040 --> 0:58:19.919
<v Speaker 1>taken off suicide watch. They had him under supervision twenty

0:58:19.960 --> 0:58:22.720
<v Speaker 1>four to seven because he had already quote attempted suicide.

0:58:23.040 --> 0:58:24.800
<v Speaker 1>So he's on suicide watch, they're watching him, and all

0:58:24.840 --> 0:58:26.439
<v Speaker 1>of a sudden they take him off suicide of watch,

0:58:26.480 --> 0:58:28.880
<v Speaker 1>and that's when he kills himself because they basically gave

0:58:28.960 --> 0:58:32.360
<v Speaker 1>him the opportunity to do it. Fishy. Next up, both

0:58:32.440 --> 0:58:38.160
<v Speaker 1>security cameras malfunctioned at the same moment. The surveillance cameras

0:58:38.160 --> 0:58:39.960
<v Speaker 1>outside of a cell conveniently failed at the same time.

0:58:40.000 --> 0:58:43.280
<v Speaker 1>You're gonna tell me that they both died at the

0:58:43.320 --> 0:58:46.000
<v Speaker 1>exact same time, and that one exact time, not just

0:58:46.040 --> 0:58:47.640
<v Speaker 1>a random time where they just flipped him back on,

0:58:48.240 --> 0:58:51.120
<v Speaker 1>was the one time he killed himself. That's like your

0:58:51.200 --> 0:58:55.919
<v Speaker 1>ring doorbell cam dying right before the burglar breaks in,

0:58:56.160 --> 0:58:58.160
<v Speaker 1>like five seconds before the burglar breaks in. And that's

0:58:58.200 --> 0:59:01.520
<v Speaker 1>only one camera, not even two of them. Both guards

0:59:01.560 --> 0:59:05.280
<v Speaker 1>fell asleep at the same time as the cameras went down,

0:59:05.320 --> 0:59:07.720
<v Speaker 1>at the same time. Both guards went to sleep at

0:59:07.720 --> 0:59:14.600
<v Speaker 1>the same time. Two trained federal officers fell asleep during

0:59:14.640 --> 0:59:18.320
<v Speaker 1>the same shift, during the most high profile suicide risk

0:59:18.480 --> 0:59:21.720
<v Speaker 1>in custody. That's not just bad luck in random. That

0:59:21.840 --> 0:59:26.520
<v Speaker 1>is extremely suspicious. The other one is he was about

0:59:26.520 --> 0:59:31.200
<v Speaker 1>to name names supposedly court documents, and there was testimony

0:59:31.320 --> 0:59:38.200
<v Speaker 1>that implicated powerful people, billionaires, politicians, royalty. He wasn't just

0:59:38.240 --> 0:59:40.840
<v Speaker 1>a threat to them. He was a freaking loaded gun

0:59:40.920 --> 0:59:44.720
<v Speaker 1>pointed right out him. You know another one, his cellmate

0:59:44.800 --> 0:59:47.000
<v Speaker 1>was pulled out right before he died. So you got

0:59:47.000 --> 0:59:49.200
<v Speaker 1>two cameras to go down, you got two guards that

0:59:49.240 --> 0:59:51.800
<v Speaker 1>go to sleep, you got him taken off suicide watch,

0:59:51.920 --> 0:59:54.560
<v Speaker 1>and you got a cellmate pulled out right before he died.

0:59:56.400 --> 0:59:58.960
<v Speaker 1>That sealmate was in there for quote safety, and they

0:59:59.000 --> 1:00:01.400
<v Speaker 1>removed the one person that would have been a witness.

1:00:02.200 --> 1:00:06.680
<v Speaker 1>His injuries didn't match a hanging. The government closed the

1:00:06.720 --> 1:00:10.680
<v Speaker 1>book super fast. They're like, yeh done. Epstein killed himself,

1:00:10.680 --> 1:00:15.240
<v Speaker 1>all right. Next up, and then the really weird one

1:00:15.680 --> 1:00:18.120
<v Speaker 1>was Giselaine Maxwell. You know, you see it in all

1:00:18.160 --> 1:00:20.640
<v Speaker 1>the pictures with him. It was like his girlfriend or

1:00:20.640 --> 1:00:23.400
<v Speaker 1>like his trafficking partner or both. Like she was convicted

1:00:23.440 --> 1:00:28.400
<v Speaker 1>of trafficking kids, but to no one. She was found

1:00:28.400 --> 1:00:30.520
<v Speaker 1>guilty of trafficking underage girls to clients. But there is

1:00:30.560 --> 1:00:32.640
<v Speaker 1>no list, there's no follow up, no no names. We're

1:00:32.960 --> 1:00:37.840
<v Speaker 1>what's happening here. So that's the one. I don't know

1:00:38.040 --> 1:00:43.880
<v Speaker 1>anybody who thinks that he actually killed himself. Yeah, that's crazy,

1:00:45.040 --> 1:00:48.720
<v Speaker 1>that's crazy. Okay, that's it. We did fifty minutes fifty

1:00:48.720 --> 1:00:51.360
<v Speaker 1>minute club. We're done. We'll do it again sometime soon.

1:00:51.960 --> 1:00:55.000
<v Speaker 1>Thank you. If you enjoyed these one on ones, please

1:00:55.080 --> 1:00:58.840
<v Speaker 1>let me know. We'll do another one next week week after.

1:00:58.920 --> 1:01:00.760
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, we'll see how it goes. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>that's it for this episode of the Bobby Cast. We

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<v Speaker 1>do coming up, we have Mark Cuban coming up. We

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<v Speaker 1>have Brooks and Dunn coming up, interviews with them that

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<v Speaker 1>are super cool. I'm super excited to have. So I

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<v Speaker 1>appreciate you guys listening and we will see you guys soon.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, bye, Everyboddy, thanks for listening to a Bobby

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<v Speaker 2>Cast production