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Speaker 1: Welcome to episode five twenty of the Bobby Cast, and

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Speaker 1: we are streaming this live on our YouTube channel, and

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Speaker 1: if you guys want to be a part of the

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Speaker 1: live stream, just go to Bobby Bones channel on YouTube

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Speaker 1: and you can watch. We'll start with Karen Reed trial

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Speaker 1: which just happened. And I watched the documentary on HBO

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Speaker 1: Max is great. I think it was like four or

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Speaker 1: five parts, and I had only heard about the trial,

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Speaker 1: and so I went and I watched the thing, and

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Speaker 1: I just watched the verdict from the second trial, and

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Speaker 1: I guess it's not a spoiler because it's news, but

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Speaker 1: the first trial she was not hung, as I have

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Speaker 1: not been, but it was a hung jury. So second trial,

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Speaker 1: which just happened, it's weird at how they were announcing

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Speaker 1: her verdicts. So three one was like second degree murder,

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Speaker 1: one was another one one was a duy basically, But

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Speaker 1: at some point they should just do it like on television,

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Speaker 1: because it was kind of confusing. They get everybody in

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Speaker 1: the courtroom and they're like, okay, for Hearth, who is

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Speaker 1: it in thal? Does the court acknowledge guilty not? I'm

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Speaker 1: completely confused about what's happening and somebody says not guilty.

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Speaker 1: But I mean, at this point in our lives, shouldn't

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Speaker 1: they just go, we find you of charge A, not guilty.

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Speaker 1: We find you on charge B not guilty. It turns

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Speaker 1: out she was not guilty of secondary murderer. She was

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Speaker 1: not guilty of I think leaving the scene. I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: mess some of this up. And the third one was guilty,

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Speaker 1: and it was basically driving under the influence, and that

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Speaker 1: when they tested her and I followed the trial a

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Speaker 1: little bit. I'm not gonna do twenty minutes of material

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Speaker 1: here on the Karen retrial. But so she's not guilty

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Speaker 1: of second degree murder. That was the big one, So

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Speaker 1: now what are they gonna do? It seemed to me

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Speaker 1: like there was very much some sort of cover up

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Speaker 1: within the system. The system meaning the police force that town,

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Speaker 1: right outside of Boston's police force. But they were so

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Speaker 1: hell bent on making her guilty. So what do they

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Speaker 1: do now? Do they just stop looking for John o'keef's killer.

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Speaker 1: It's bizarre. And if they don't, because again they don't

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Speaker 1: have a second suspect. She's been on trial for two

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Speaker 1: or three years at this point. If it's really justice

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Speaker 1: for John, which is what they're saying, then they should

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Speaker 1: actually go and continue to try to find who killed

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Speaker 1: them because they're only I don't know seven or eight

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Speaker 1: people that were around that night. But I didn't think

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Speaker 1: last time. But those jurors are supposedly not affected by

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Speaker 1: the first trial at all. But I don't know how

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Speaker 1: But watch the series. I'm sure they're gonna have a

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Speaker 1: new documentary up on the second one as well. But

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Speaker 1: she was not not guilty, So I just watched that.

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Speaker 1: It was just really confusing at how they announced it,

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Speaker 1: because I think it should just be announced like on television.

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Speaker 1: I'm taking your questions as we go as well. We

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Speaker 1: can start with this one. What is a moment in

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Speaker 1: your career you still can't believe actually happened. I have

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Speaker 1: a few of these. Number one is way back in

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Speaker 1: the day when I worked in Hot Springs, Arkansas. My

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Speaker 1: very first job was at a radio station called one

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Speaker 1: So last minute they had to throw me on the air.

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Speaker 1: My name was name of Bobby Bones. At the time,

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Speaker 1: it was just Bobby. I didn't have a name. I'd

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Speaker 1: never been on the air. But they had hired me

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Speaker 1: So it was a small town, so it wasn't like

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Speaker 1: here of you know, one of these things that I

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Speaker 1: there are a lot of opportunities that are going to

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Speaker 1: open up for you just because now, as somebody who

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Speaker 1: up consistently on time, emotionally, physically, like, that's ninety five

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Speaker 1: get a bigger job. And I had had some offers

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Speaker 1: It's like Bristol, Virginia, a couple other in that. Try

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Speaker 1: forgive me to the other two that aren't being mentioned

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Speaker 1: that's where the news was shot. Like Ned Perme, my

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Speaker 1: My dream was to work in Little Rock. They had

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Speaker 1: I think that would be super cool. He said, cool,

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Speaker 1: I don't get the job. That sucks for me. And

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Speaker 1: I told him that, I said, I don't think I

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Speaker 1: We're just doing that all night. And he was like, now,

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Speaker 1: So what I do. I'd drive at two o'clock in

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Speaker 1: That was my tryout on a Sunday night, knowing that

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Speaker 1: radio names are so dumb. My name is dumb. It's

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Speaker 1: Bobby Bones. It's not even my real name, so when

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Speaker 1: I say these names, it's funny. But my program director's

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Speaker 1: three o'clock in the morning, going, Bobby, is that you

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Speaker 1: and I know it's Jack of my program director, and

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Speaker 1: to Q one hundred, probably three weeks later, and it

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Speaker 1: Oh that was totally weird. What I really think happened

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Speaker 1: And think of all the dumb radio names. Bobby Bones.

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Speaker 1: I didn't pick my name, by the way, like I

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Speaker 1: picked it out of a choice of like three, but

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Speaker 1: Bobby Bones, Ted Striker, who I mentioned Jack Frost, I

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Speaker 1: don't think I was Kevin Cruz who hired me at

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Speaker 1: kay lazy Man. Podcasters have un lucky then I have

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Speaker 1: to come up with stupid names like we had to.

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Speaker 1: That was one and my second one is probably winning

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Speaker 1: Dancing with the Stars, not even just going on Dancing

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Speaker 1: for ABC. And that story is a bit bizarre because

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Speaker 1: Here's another question, what is the most impactful song of

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Speaker 3: forget it. I'll never forget it.

431
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Speaker 1: What would you say our feeling was when we heard

432
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Speaker 1: that song?

433
00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:14,200
Speaker 3: Huh. I don't think we talked about it, just looked

434
00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:20,360
Speaker 3: at each other. We looked at each other and when huh.

435
00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:20,440
Speaker 1: Okay, I just wanted to see if you remember that's

436
00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:23,680
Speaker 1: the same way I did. Yeah, all right, buddy, see later.

437
00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:31,400
Speaker 1: Impactful but Thomas, right, I love you body. I want

438
00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:33,159
Speaker 1: you to be offended by this. But that's the truth.

439
00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:35,520
Speaker 1: And the third one is probably when it comes to

440
00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:39,280
Speaker 1: impactful songs, probably Chris Stapleton and I'm gonna say Tennessee Whiskey,

441
00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:42,720
Speaker 1: and not because of the song, but in the history

442
00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:45,240
Speaker 1: of the Bobby Bone Show, there have only been a

443
00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:48,000
Speaker 1: few people that I've called and like said, hey, you

444
00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:51,000
Speaker 1: gotta come on the show. I'm a big fan way

445
00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:53,359
Speaker 1: before they popped, and then when they popped it worked

446
00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:55,960
Speaker 1: out to be super beneficial to me. One of those

447
00:22:56,240 --> 00:23:00,679
Speaker 1: was Chris Stapleton, and I remember calling him at his house.

448
00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:03,360
Speaker 1: He was in the shower and at this point he

449
00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:05,760
Speaker 1: was a songwriter and he had some hits of a songwriter,

450
00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:10,439
Speaker 1: but he wasn't a known artist, and he said, let

451
00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:12,640
Speaker 1: me call you right back in the shower, all live

452
00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:16,040
Speaker 1: on the air, and I'm like, dude, come up, You're awesome.

453
00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:19,480
Speaker 1: He's like, okay, he comes up, he plays boom, it's great.

454
00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:23,920
Speaker 1: He does. Josh Turner maybe turned him lots down because

455
00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:26,840
Speaker 1: he wrote that song and it has like eight million

456
00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:29,160
Speaker 1: views now on YouTube. But that was before Tennessee Whiskey.

457
00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:34,320
Speaker 1: So it was very beneficial to me that I heard

458
00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:37,160
Speaker 1: his amazing voice before he blew up. Because I didn't

459
00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:39,600
Speaker 1: make him good, I didn't find him, I didn't make

460
00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:41,800
Speaker 1: him famous, I didn't put him add justin turberlate together.

461
00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:45,439
Speaker 1: But as soon as he popped like he did, he

462
00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:49,600
Speaker 1: had this really cool loyalty to me, which still to

463
00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:51,879
Speaker 1: this day, for some reason, he holds anytime I ask

464
00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:54,280
Speaker 1: him to do anything It is a very quick yes.

465
00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:58,080
Speaker 1: I love Chris. Chris doesn't do a whole lot like

466
00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:00,560
Speaker 1: publicly as far as interviews, but he's always on the

467
00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:02,960
Speaker 1: show when I call him. He did the Million Dollar

468
00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:05,120
Speaker 1: Show with Eddie Knight at the Rhyme and he came

469
00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:07,960
Speaker 1: and played it. But I would say that song because

470
00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:10,760
Speaker 1: that created that relationship with Chris Stapleton and I. I

471
00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:14,160
Speaker 1: got very fortunate there those three songs, but mostly beer

472
00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:19,280
Speaker 1: with jeez, it's crazy that Eddie remembers that. Here's another question.

473
00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:26,040
Speaker 1: What's the most misunderstood part of your job? One? How

474
00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:28,199
Speaker 1: difficult it is to wake up every morning. It's not

475
00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:30,760
Speaker 1: difficult like my stepdad who worked at the Middle difficult.

476
00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:35,639
Speaker 1: It's different kind of difficult. I would much rather do

477
00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:37,119
Speaker 1: what I'm doing because I chose to do what I do,

478
00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:38,680
Speaker 1: and I built all the avenues that I get to

479
00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:40,760
Speaker 1: drive down every day to do what I do, meaning

480
00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:43,800
Speaker 1: this podcast, meaning the radio show, meaning any of the

481
00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:45,920
Speaker 1: television projects that I do. So I did it all once.

482
00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:48,240
Speaker 1: I remember I was doing Breaking Bobby Bones on nat

483
00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:51,600
Speaker 1: GEO and I was injured a lot because that show

484
00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:55,119
Speaker 1: had me catching myself on fire as a stuntman falling

485
00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:59,960
Speaker 1: off houses, climbing in the middle of winter in Iowa,

486
00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:06,840
Speaker 1: a like wind turbine, like all this stuff, and I

487
00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:09,159
Speaker 1: was always hurt and I would complain about it. My

488
00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:13,000
Speaker 1: wife would go, I get it that you're hurting, but

489
00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:15,600
Speaker 1: you created all this stuff that's hurting you, so you

490
00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:18,640
Speaker 1: can only be so upset. And that's how I feel

491
00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:20,919
Speaker 1: about the morning show, right It sucks to wake up

492
00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:26,399
Speaker 1: early in the morning. That being said, how difficult that is.

493
00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:31,880
Speaker 1: I would say, the constant pressure to be on all

494
00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:34,359
Speaker 1: the time. Now again, I did this because I'm the

495
00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:39,199
Speaker 1: one that decided to do the radio show, the NFL podcast,

496
00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:45,280
Speaker 1: twenty five Whistles, the Bobby Cast, I did the Yellowstone Podcast.

497
00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:47,399
Speaker 1: I'm trying, So I did all this. So when I

498
00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:52,479
Speaker 1: say this, it's all my fault. But there really is

499
00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:55,159
Speaker 1: so much energy you have, and that's it. You hit

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Speaker 1: a point. And I think, as I record this, like

501
00:25:57,640 --> 00:26:01,160
Speaker 1: I've kind of hit that pointly have a few days

502
00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:03,520
Speaker 1: off coming out vacation in the next few weeks. But

503
00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:07,840
Speaker 1: I think that's a misunderstood part that And I'm not whining,

504
00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:11,200
Speaker 1: but you can actually like fry your brain. I think

505
00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:15,359
Speaker 1: my brain's fried right now. I think in like the

506
00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:20,400
Speaker 1: radio part of it. It used to be be relatable. Relatability

507
00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:24,679
Speaker 1: is key, and I think Nember something to that, but

508
00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:30,480
Speaker 1: it's not even that anymore. I think being entertaining is

509
00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:37,320
Speaker 1: number one. Being authentic or telling the truth is number two,

510
00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:40,320
Speaker 1: because if you're being entertaining, you can't stay in character

511
00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:43,120
Speaker 1: or remember your lies. That's why I don't lie more.

512
00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:45,879
Speaker 1: I can't remember them, and I'm on like seven places

513
00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:49,320
Speaker 1: doing seven different things. I don't think I lie at all.

514
00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:54,800
Speaker 1: If I do, you're gonna hear me contradict myself not

515
00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:57,480
Speaker 1: knowing it because I'm saying things in all these different places.

516
00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:00,640
Speaker 1: So I think number one is entertaining, Number two is

517
00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:07,280
Speaker 1: being honest and authentic, and then number three is being relatable.

518
00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:11,639
Speaker 1: Like I think relatability's fine and it's good, but like

519
00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:13,560
Speaker 1: your neighbors relatable, Do you want to listen to them

520
00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:16,399
Speaker 1: talk for an hour on a podcast? Probably not? I

521
00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:20,159
Speaker 1: mean maybe, but relatability was such a two thousands thing

522
00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:21,800
Speaker 1: where it was number one, and we still get this

523
00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:24,960
Speaker 1: research sometimes it's like you're not being relatable enough. I'm like, good,

524
00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:28,359
Speaker 1: does that mean I'm being way more entertaining because I

525
00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:31,280
Speaker 1: don't want to be fake relatable. If I were to

526
00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:33,920
Speaker 1: come on now and say the things that I said

527
00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:36,240
Speaker 1: fifteen years ago, you guys would know it was a lie.

528
00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:40,440
Speaker 1: If I came on and said things like, man, i

529
00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:43,640
Speaker 1: went to the vet and that bill was so high,

530
00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:45,639
Speaker 1: I'm thinking about not even like paying it and just

531
00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:47,920
Speaker 1: seeing what happens. That's a real thing that happens with people.

532
00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:49,600
Speaker 1: But you guys know I have money now because I've

533
00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:51,560
Speaker 1: been doing this for so long. Or if I'm like

534
00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:52,960
Speaker 1: I had to go buy a new set of tires

535
00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:55,080
Speaker 1: that's really really got me strapped this month, you guys

536
00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:57,360
Speaker 1: would know I was full of crap now. I had

537
00:27:57,359 --> 00:27:58,840
Speaker 1: to live a big part of my life like that.

538
00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:03,639
Speaker 1: But that's the relatability part that I understand because I

539
00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:05,000
Speaker 1: had it. But I don't have it anymore, so I

540
00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:09,399
Speaker 1: don't lie about that part anymore. So those are probably

541
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:11,320
Speaker 1: and by the way, those aren't even that big of

542
00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:14,720
Speaker 1: a deal. Like, my job is pretty cool. I put

543
00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:15,879
Speaker 1: a lot of time and effort into it and a

544
00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:19,200
Speaker 1: lot of strategy, but my job's pretty cool, So I

545
00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:21,480
Speaker 1: don't complain about it much. Mostly if I do complain

546
00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:23,680
Speaker 1: about it, it's only if I'm complaining about beer with

547
00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:25,760
Speaker 1: Jesus and that song that almost kept me from coming here.

548
00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:39,120
Speaker 4: The Bobby Cast will be right back. This is the

549
00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:39,920
Speaker 4: Bobby Cast.

550
00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:46,840
Speaker 1: What do people assume about your success that isn't true?

551
00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:52,760
Speaker 1: I think you probably assume everything that's correct about this.

552
00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:56,560
Speaker 1: It is a lot of being on but who cares.

553
00:28:56,600 --> 00:29:01,160
Speaker 1: Like again, my stepdad worked at the mill, like I've

554
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:04,560
Speaker 1: seen real work before, and I think this is real work,

555
00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:07,920
Speaker 1: but it's definitely not the same. So not to not

556
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:10,240
Speaker 1: spend time on that question. But that was a little

557
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:11,320
Speaker 1: bit like the last one. I didn't even why I

558
00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:13,960
Speaker 1: picked it, but thank you for sending it. Which moment

559
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:16,720
Speaker 1: felt more like you made it your first big check

560
00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:23,320
Speaker 1: or your first big opportunity. That's interesting, my first big

561
00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:28,880
Speaker 1: check or my first big opportunity. Well, the first thing

562
00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:31,920
Speaker 1: I bought with what I felt was my first big

563
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:35,280
Speaker 1: check was a pair of Jordans, white Jordans. I didn't

564
00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:37,560
Speaker 1: have nice shoes growing up, and if I did, I

565
00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:38,920
Speaker 1: got them at a yard sale. So I thought, the

566
00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:40,840
Speaker 1: first time I make money and I have money that

567
00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:42,479
Speaker 1: is more than just week to week, I'm gonna buy

568
00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:44,640
Speaker 1: me the coolest Jordans. And I bought a pair of

569
00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:49,880
Speaker 1: white Jordans. Sixes, like that's cool, that's special because I

570
00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:51,479
Speaker 1: still remember that. I still remember going to the mall.

571
00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:57,120
Speaker 1: I'm buying those. I bought my mom a trailer and

572
00:29:57,360 --> 00:30:00,320
Speaker 1: two acres of land before she died like that. From

573
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:03,880
Speaker 1: another big check, like I signed a contract in Austin

574
00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:05,920
Speaker 1: I think for like four hundred thousand dollars a year.

575
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:10,080
Speaker 1: Just walking back through my checks and what I made

576
00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:15,479
Speaker 1: per year. When I started in radio full time, I

577
00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:20,280
Speaker 1: made like sixteen thousand a year, and that was all hourly,

578
00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:22,920
Speaker 1: so it was sixteen thousand, but it was based on

579
00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:27,200
Speaker 1: nine dollars an hour or something like that. When I

580
00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:31,720
Speaker 1: went to Austin to do nights full time because I

581
00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:34,400
Speaker 1: went from Little Rock to Austin, I went for thirty

582
00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:37,000
Speaker 1: two thousand dollars a year and that was two thousand

583
00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:42,200
Speaker 1: and three. Late two thousand and two. When I got

584
00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:46,440
Speaker 1: the morning job in Austin and they paid me fifty

585
00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:48,800
Speaker 1: thousand dollars a year, I was rich. I really felt

586
00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:51,000
Speaker 1: like I was rich. It was the I think of

587
00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:53,960
Speaker 1: any of the Hey, we're going to sign a new contract.

588
00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:56,840
Speaker 1: There was more joy in that one than any other

589
00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:59,720
Speaker 1: deal that I had ever signed because it was the

590
00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:02,520
Speaker 1: first time that there was this entirely new feeling of

591
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:12,719
Speaker 1: I don't feel fundamentally like I am just swimming as

592
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:16,520
Speaker 1: hard as I can to stay above water. And that

593
00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:19,160
Speaker 1: fifty thousand dollars a year was crazy. I could not

594
00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:23,920
Speaker 1: believe it. So that job, and you know, by the

595
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:27,960
Speaker 1: time I left Austin, it was four or five hundred

596
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:32,000
Speaker 1: thousand dollars a year, and that's pretty good. But that

597
00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:34,000
Speaker 1: was also like bonuses, like we were number one for

598
00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:39,400
Speaker 1: like five years in a row. And when I say that,

599
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:42,280
Speaker 1: I mean every quarter. They would have a ratings book,

600
00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:46,800
Speaker 1: and if I hit for four quarters in a row,

601
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:49,840
Speaker 1: I got a bonus of like seventy five thousand dollars,

602
00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:51,280
Speaker 1: and four years in a row, I hit that freaking

603
00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:56,040
Speaker 1: bonus like we would crush in Austin. And so when

604
00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:59,440
Speaker 1: you ask the question, first big check or first big opportunity, like,

605
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:01,760
Speaker 1: those are the checks that I think of. The other

606
00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:06,160
Speaker 1: check that I think of. I had gone and I

607
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:08,560
Speaker 1: had done some episodes on American Idol that first season,

608
00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:15,040
Speaker 1: and they had me come in for one episode and

609
00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:17,880
Speaker 1: it was really to talk to kids, kids, young adults,

610
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:21,000
Speaker 1: but mostly kids on this show about what it was

611
00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:26,040
Speaker 1: like to be interviewed by multiple people and walk them

612
00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:28,280
Speaker 1: through the process of like how to start over at

613
00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:32,880
Speaker 1: the next interview and how to have your your microphone

614
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:34,280
Speaker 1: close to your mouth. But really that's what it was.

615
00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:36,200
Speaker 1: It was like how to be interviewed. So I go

616
00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:38,080
Speaker 1: when I do that. But what I found, and what

617
00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:42,840
Speaker 1: they found too, was that I understood what a lot

618
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:44,760
Speaker 1: of those young adults and kids were going through because

619
00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:47,000
Speaker 1: until I had been sent to New York or Los

620
00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:48,760
Speaker 1: Angeles for work, I'd never been to New York or

621
00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:51,000
Speaker 1: Los Angeles. And then when I got there, I was like, Wow,

622
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:53,160
Speaker 1: this is like television. I was overwhelmed a bit, as

623
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:55,760
Speaker 1: were they, and so they kept me on. I did

624
00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:59,080
Speaker 1: multiple episodes, and I've told the story and I talked

625
00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:01,560
Speaker 1: about it, I think in my seal, which is not

626
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:04,480
Speaker 1: even available because once CMT air did, I put it

627
00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:10,040
Speaker 1: on YouTube and then never pushed load. I guess I

628
00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:14,000
Speaker 1: loaded it. I just never made it public. I talked

629
00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:16,240
Speaker 1: about that and how I lost money for like three

630
00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:18,640
Speaker 1: episodes because American Idol didn't even know that I didn't

631
00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:20,720
Speaker 1: live in Los Angeles. They thought I lived there. Because

632
00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:22,760
Speaker 1: I didn't want them to use that as a reason

633
00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:24,800
Speaker 1: not to hire me for another episode. So they were

634
00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:26,760
Speaker 1: paying me union minimum, and by the time I was

635
00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:28,480
Speaker 1: paying for my flights at my hotel, I was losing

636
00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:30,760
Speaker 1: hundreds of dollars, just hundreds of dollars, but still money

637
00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:34,840
Speaker 1: an episode. So for like three episodes, I lost money,

638
00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:36,760
Speaker 1: and so they asked me to come back and do

639
00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:39,120
Speaker 1: more episodes, and I was like, Okay, I have to

640
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:41,720
Speaker 1: make a confession to you. Guess I don't live here.

641
00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:45,520
Speaker 1: And so my manager at the time was like, we'll

642
00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:47,360
Speaker 1: get you a higher rate, and so they paid me

643
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:49,280
Speaker 1: for like the last couple episodes fifty thousand dollars an

644
00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:52,320
Speaker 1: episode on American Idol that first season. So first season ends,

645
00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:54,560
Speaker 1: and this is pre we're doing a prequel here to

646
00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:59,360
Speaker 1: that story. I told earlier that first season ends, and

647
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:01,520
Speaker 1: I had heard they were going to offer me a

648
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:04,840
Speaker 1: deal for another season, maybe two, And I'm thinking, if

649
00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:06,840
Speaker 1: they just pay me like that fifty thousand dollars an episode,

650
00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:09,520
Speaker 1: that's going to be awesome. And so they made an

651
00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:11,720
Speaker 1: offer to me, and it was like three hundred thousand dollars.

652
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:16,040
Speaker 1: I would have said yes immediately, my manager, whose name

653
00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:19,240
Speaker 1: is Corn Capshaw, who's the owner of Red Light Management,

654
00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:22,960
Speaker 1: he said, don't take it, I love. What are you

655
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:26,200
Speaker 1: talking about? He goes, if you just say no, they're

656
00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:29,040
Speaker 1: going to offer you more. And I said, are you sure?

657
00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:33,720
Speaker 1: And he said, well, you really can't be sure of anything.

658
00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:38,600
Speaker 1: And I thought, if I say no to this, they're

659
00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:41,600
Speaker 1: offered me a full time job on this show. They're

660
00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:44,160
Speaker 1: offering me three hundred thousand dollars or something like that

661
00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:47,960
Speaker 1: all in, and if I say no, they may go, well,

662
00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:50,319
Speaker 1: there's eleven of you here in La more than that

663
00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:51,799
Speaker 1: that we can hire to put on the show. And

664
00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:54,319
Speaker 1: he said, if I were you as your manager, I

665
00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:57,040
Speaker 1: can't say no. But I'm going to say you should

666
00:34:57,040 --> 00:35:00,920
Speaker 1: say no to this. And so I trusted them and

667
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:03,719
Speaker 1: I said, guys, I don't feel like you're paying me enough.

668
00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:06,000
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say no. Their next offer was one point

669
00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:09,040
Speaker 1: two million dollars and I said, yes, immediately, that's a

670
00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:12,839
Speaker 1: big check. That's a big that's a big check. That's

671
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:15,800
Speaker 1: pretty cool. And then I don't know what the weird

672
00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:18,799
Speaker 1: part about that question is your first big opportunity. I

673
00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:21,160
Speaker 1: don't feel like I ever just had this massive opportunity

674
00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:24,480
Speaker 1: that came to me out of nowhere, or this opportunity

675
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:26,839
Speaker 1: that just showed up because they're like, we think you're

676
00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:29,719
Speaker 1: so great, here's a big opportunity. Everything that I've been

677
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:33,560
Speaker 1: doing has been one small ladder rung and then one

678
00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:35,319
Speaker 1: small ladder rung, and then I fall down a couple

679
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:37,520
Speaker 1: of lodder rungs, and then I climb up three small

680
00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:39,520
Speaker 1: ladder rungs. Like, I don't really feel like I've ever

681
00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:42,239
Speaker 1: had a massive jump that either didn't have a lot

682
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:46,560
Speaker 1: of risk involved or really wasn't that massive because I'd

683
00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:48,560
Speaker 1: been working on it for so long behind the scenes.

684
00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:54,799
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna say you made it was the big

685
00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:58,799
Speaker 1: checks because there was never just a massive opportunity that

686
00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:05,919
Speaker 1: presented itself that I wasn't either killing myself to get. Yeah,

687
00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:09,719
Speaker 1: it's the money, And I've never really done anything just

688
00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:13,319
Speaker 1: for money. I've probably taken a couple speaking engagements, but

689
00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:15,799
Speaker 1: that's one day, and those pay really well. If it's

690
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:19,160
Speaker 1: a private speaking engagement or a private like just me

691
00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:23,160
Speaker 1: going up to do some jokes, that's significant. So I've

692
00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:24,759
Speaker 1: done that for money, but I've never like taken on

693
00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:27,400
Speaker 1: a whole project for money. I did the Yellowstone podcast,

694
00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:29,759
Speaker 1: and I thought that was a good relationship builder. I

695
00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:31,920
Speaker 1: kind of regret doing that. It wasn't that Yellowstone was

696
00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:33,080
Speaker 1: bad to work with. It wasn't the Paramo I was

697
00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:35,120
Speaker 1: bad to work with. That production company was terrible, and the

698
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:38,040
Speaker 1: producer of that was just really awful. And when he

699
00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:39,759
Speaker 1: sent the email that was like, you're not famous enough

700
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:43,960
Speaker 1: to get big guests, because I said, hey, why don't

701
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:45,839
Speaker 1: we get Kevin Costner? Why don't we get and he

702
00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:47,359
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, if you were famous, we could get them,

703
00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:50,479
Speaker 1: but you're not famous enough. And I was like, okay, cool.

704
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:52,720
Speaker 1: I had Costner on my show like four weeks prior.

705
00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:55,799
Speaker 1: I felt pretty good about sending that email off. But

706
00:36:55,880 --> 00:37:01,600
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go checks. Is AI going to run creativity

707
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:05,160
Speaker 1: or is AI going to enhance it? That's the question.

708
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:08,040
Speaker 1: My answer is going to be the AI is going

709
00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:13,400
Speaker 1: to enhance it. I think everything has always been enhanced

710
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 1: by things that were going to ruin creativity. And I

711
00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:20,680
Speaker 1: can walk you through this. I've thought about it this

712
00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:23,960
Speaker 1: a bit because I love AI. I make AI teasers

713
00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:28,040
Speaker 1: for upcoming guests on the Bobbycast. So if we go

714
00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:35,040
Speaker 1: back the printing press in the fourteen hundreds, people said

715
00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:39,000
Speaker 1: that the printing press would kill memory, it would kill

716
00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:43,160
Speaker 1: oral tradition, like just telling stories into your buddy's ear,

717
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:47,600
Speaker 1: and Papa would tell grandkids' stories, and it would kill

718
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:51,880
Speaker 1: the sacred art of hand copying texts. So the printing

719
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:55,319
Speaker 1: press was going to ruin creativity in the fourteen hundreds.

720
00:37:55,880 --> 00:38:00,400
Speaker 1: In the eighteen hundreds, photography was going to run create activity.

721
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:07,279
Speaker 1: Painters were pissed at photography, and so people were like,

722
00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:11,359
Speaker 1: that's it, it's over. These machines are taking pictures. It's

723
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:15,120
Speaker 1: not the human hand anymore. Why paint when you can

724
00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:22,600
Speaker 1: just click? Then, recorded music in the nineteen hundreds, live

725
00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:29,839
Speaker 1: musicians panicked. Sheet music aficionados I don't even know what

726
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:33,799
Speaker 1: you call that, like publishers, they went ballistic. The whole

727
00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:37,680
Speaker 1: thought was if music is put on a vinyl or

728
00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:39,520
Speaker 1: on a way that people will not go to live

729
00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:44,440
Speaker 1: shows anymore, that was ruining creativity. You can go to

730
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:48,520
Speaker 1: the nineteen seventies or the nineteen eighties synthesizers and drum machines.

731
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:54,000
Speaker 1: Traditional musicians said it was fake, it was robotic, it

732
00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:59,200
Speaker 1: was soulless. That's not real music. Now, that's so much

733
00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:01,839
Speaker 1: a part of real music. Pop, hip hop, dm even

734
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:06,399
Speaker 1: country sampling in the eighties and the nineties, like old

735
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:11,200
Speaker 1: school purists said that borrowing other clips of other songs

736
00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:15,960
Speaker 1: was just theft, not art, that it was just noise

737
00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:21,320
Speaker 1: not music. Are you seeing the patterns here? Auto tune

738
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:24,400
Speaker 1: in the nineties, I think Share Believe was the first

739
00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:26,879
Speaker 1: auto tune song that was a hit. T Paining gets

740
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:28,560
Speaker 1: all the credit because that he made it his thing,

741
00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:30,680
Speaker 1: which is weird because Tea paink could really really sing,

742
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:32,880
Speaker 1: so it was a stylistic choice for Tea pain more

743
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:38,440
Speaker 1: than anything else. YouTube and social media in the two thousands,

744
00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:41,279
Speaker 1: people said it was just kids making dumb videos, and

745
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:44,080
Speaker 1: then when it started to catch on, it was it's

746
00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:46,239
Speaker 1: not really television. But then when it got so big,

747
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:48,239
Speaker 1: it was like television's done. Everything's gonna be done on

748
00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:54,560
Speaker 1: YouTube for a nickel streaming services. So my only point

749
00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:59,840
Speaker 1: here about that question is every generation thinks that the

750
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:03,799
Speaker 1: the next part of technology is killing creativity. But the

751
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:07,080
Speaker 1: thing about creativity is it doesn't die, it adapts. It

752
00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:13,160
Speaker 1: always has AI isn't the end of originality. It is

753
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:16,680
Speaker 1: just a really cool tool in the box, and I

754
00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:18,880
Speaker 1: think all of those have been tools in the box

755
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:24,520
Speaker 1: so far. It can't replace human emotion or experience or taste.

756
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:29,719
Speaker 1: It can only reflect it based on what it's built on.

757
00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:34,680
Speaker 1: So I can understand people getting upset about AI at times,

758
00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:38,399
Speaker 1: but remember people got upset the printing press. And that's

759
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:40,160
Speaker 1: what I want you to say. The next time someone's

760
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:42,520
Speaker 1: like AI is ruining music, Say ah, you sound like

761
00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:46,480
Speaker 1: someone in fourteen eighteen complaining about the printing press. But

762
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:49,080
Speaker 1: I think AI is great and if you don't use it,

763
00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:51,440
Speaker 1: you're going to get crushed by someone else. That is,

764
00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:59,080
Speaker 1: because again it's a tool. Next question, what's one story

765
00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:02,880
Speaker 1: from behind the scenes Bobby Bone show you've never told?

766
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:06,719
Speaker 1: I guess I'm feeling a bit nostalgic. So there was

767
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:09,440
Speaker 1: a point during the show when I knew we were

768
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:12,279
Speaker 1: moving to Nashville, but I could not tell anybody else

769
00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:14,600
Speaker 1: on the show we were moving to Nashville because I

770
00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:17,239
Speaker 1: hadn't even decided who I was gonna take because it

771
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:18,680
Speaker 1: was so new to me. But they said, you can't

772
00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:21,960
Speaker 1: tell anybody because legally there are people that can't know.

773
00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:26,000
Speaker 1: And I'm not sure if it was because they needed

774
00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:27,880
Speaker 1: to be moved, because a lot of the shows that

775
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:29,839
Speaker 1: were on in the mornings when we came on around

776
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:32,400
Speaker 1: the country either got moved to like middays or afternoons

777
00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:34,040
Speaker 1: or some of them were like go before we even

778
00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:36,160
Speaker 1: came on, Like I didn't have any control over any

779
00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:39,080
Speaker 1: of that. But because of that, I couldn't talk about it,

780
00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:41,600
Speaker 1: couldn't tell anybody about it. And so there were a

781
00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:44,920
Speaker 1: couple of stories specifically that come to mind. Amy was

782
00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:49,200
Speaker 1: trying to buy a house in Austin and she had

783
00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:52,719
Speaker 1: moved to North Carolina. She worked remotely from North Carolina

784
00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:54,640
Speaker 1: for a couple of years because her husband at the

785
00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:57,319
Speaker 1: time now our ex husband, was in the military, and

786
00:41:57,600 --> 00:41:59,680
Speaker 1: she worked on the show with us in Austin. I'd

787
00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:02,719
Speaker 1: built that whole syndication company myself in Austin, and so

788
00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:05,120
Speaker 1: because I did that, I had the leverage to say

789
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:06,880
Speaker 1: we're keep an Amy. And it was kind of unheard

790
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:08,600
Speaker 1: of to have a co host that wasn't in the

791
00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:12,600
Speaker 1: same room with you. And so Amy was working in

792
00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:15,960
Speaker 1: North Carolina moving back to Austin. Everybody was pumped because

793
00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:17,200
Speaker 1: she was gonna be back in the room with us.

794
00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:19,319
Speaker 1: But if she was moving back and looking for a house,

795
00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:21,839
Speaker 1: that's when it's okay, I'm taking the Nashville job. I said,

796
00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:23,440
Speaker 1: I gotta tell Amy she's gonna buy a house, and

797
00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:27,759
Speaker 1: like a week. They wouldn't let me do it. And

798
00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:29,800
Speaker 1: I said to them, she may not take the job

799
00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:32,840
Speaker 1: if she buys a house. They would not let me

800
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:36,640
Speaker 1: do it. She put an offer in on a house,

801
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:41,080
Speaker 1: they accepted the offer, and for some reason, part of

802
00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:46,560
Speaker 1: the contingency fell through and the house was never able

803
00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:48,080
Speaker 1: to be bought. It was just like taking off the

804
00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:51,759
Speaker 1: market or something. And thank god that happened, because I

805
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:53,400
Speaker 1: don't know that Amy would have come to Nashville with this,

806
00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:56,520
Speaker 1: not because of me, but because her and her husband

807
00:42:56,520 --> 00:43:00,719
Speaker 1: had just bought a house. So that one. And then

808
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:02,880
Speaker 1: Ray Mundo where Ray Mundo had come to me, and

809
00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:06,360
Speaker 1: Ray was an intern for me. And the way that

810
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:11,480
Speaker 1: I met Ray was he was doing internships for different

811
00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:13,600
Speaker 1: radio stations in the building and he was an intern

812
00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:18,040
Speaker 1: for the sports station called thirteen hundred Zone in Austin,

813
00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:21,200
Speaker 1: and they asked me if I would fill in on

814
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:23,200
Speaker 1: like a holiday or two, and I was like, that's cool.

815
00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:26,400
Speaker 1: I love sports, why not? And I needed a producer

816
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:27,759
Speaker 1: and he was producing and I said, hey, man, do

817
00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:29,520
Speaker 1: you want to produce this sports show? I didn't know him,

818
00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:31,160
Speaker 1: and he was like, yeah, I would love to. That's

819
00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:33,120
Speaker 1: how we knew each other. Then he came as an

820
00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:36,040
Speaker 1: intern on the show. He was never a paid employee

821
00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:39,160
Speaker 1: in Austin before I moved to Nashville, but I knew

822
00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:41,520
Speaker 1: he wanted to be, and I was trying to help

823
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:43,279
Speaker 1: him find a job in some other city anywhere, because

824
00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:44,680
Speaker 1: Ray just wanted to go and work and make a

825
00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:48,000
Speaker 1: living out of doing radio. And I called him in

826
00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:49,960
Speaker 1: the office and I knew I was going to Nashville,

827
00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:51,719
Speaker 1: and I said, hey, man, I think I got you

828
00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:55,399
Speaker 1: an offer in a different city. Do you care where

829
00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:57,040
Speaker 1: it is? But I can't tell you right now? And

830
00:43:57,120 --> 00:43:59,520
Speaker 1: he's like, I don't care. I'm going. Said, okay, I

831
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:02,360
Speaker 1: can tell you that city where the offer is, but

832
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:05,959
Speaker 1: I can't tell you really the show because of some legals.

833
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:07,719
Speaker 1: He's like, it's fine. I said, I really trust this

834
00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:09,480
Speaker 1: show and I think you're gonna do great there, and

835
00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:11,400
Speaker 1: they want you as like the head audio producer and

836
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:14,000
Speaker 1: he's cloud nine, like is the most exciting thing ever

837
00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:15,799
Speaker 1: to him, and I get it because I know what

838
00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:17,960
Speaker 1: that felt like. And I said, the show's in Nashville,

839
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:20,239
Speaker 1: but I can't say much else, and he's like, this

840
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:22,080
Speaker 1: is awesome. I'm moving to Nashville. And it was a

841
00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:23,560
Speaker 1: while before I coul tell him the show was actually

842
00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:26,680
Speaker 1: me and that he was going to move with us,

843
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:29,719
Speaker 1: and his first paid job was with me in Nashville

844
00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:38,120
Speaker 1: and now paid. Ray has been thirteen years man looking

845
00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:40,919
Speaker 1: back at all the guys on the show, like Amy

846
00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:45,600
Speaker 1: and Lunchbox, about just about twenty years, Ray thirteen years,

847
00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:49,399
Speaker 1: Eddie thirteen fourteen years. Like our crew has been together

848
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:51,680
Speaker 1: a long time. But I would say that's a behind

849
00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:54,799
Speaker 1: the scenes story that really doesn't get shared a whole lot.

850
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:58,600
Speaker 1: I haven't really thought about it. I'll do a couple more.

851
00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:01,400
Speaker 1: We're just doing fifty minutes. Oh, this is full fifty

852
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:05,000
Speaker 1: minutes club here. What's the most overrated artist of all time?

853
00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:08,160
Speaker 1: We talked about this on the radio show recently. I

854
00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:10,200
Speaker 1: can go into a little more depth on mine. I

855
00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:12,719
Speaker 1: think the most overrated artist of all time is a band,

856
00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:16,279
Speaker 1: and I think it's Youtwoe. Now that doesn't mean I

857
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:18,319
Speaker 1: don't think they're good or even great, because I do

858
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:22,840
Speaker 1: really like you too, but I think it's okay to

859
00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:26,759
Speaker 1: say you two is really good, but also feel they're

860
00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:29,760
Speaker 1: a bit overrated, and I can give you some reasons

861
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:37,120
Speaker 1: they get classic airplay consideration, like on classic rock stations

862
00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:40,759
Speaker 1: for songs that weren't even hits, like Vertigo wasn't even

863
00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:42,680
Speaker 1: a hit. It plays on classic rock, like just because

864
00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:46,200
Speaker 1: they're you two, they just play their songs and I

865
00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:47,839
Speaker 1: can get it more to that just because they're you two.

866
00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:50,839
Speaker 1: But even like Elevation, that's not sweet Child of Mind

867
00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:52,960
Speaker 1: and that's not smells like teen Spirit, So it gets

868
00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:55,360
Speaker 1: played on like classic rock and even alternative stations they

869
00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:57,680
Speaker 1: won't even hit back in the day. Okay, that's a

870
00:45:57,719 --> 00:46:00,920
Speaker 1: dumb one, but I'll put it there. Bono at times

871
00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:04,239
Speaker 1: is so annoying that his persona, the character he plays,

872
00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:07,160
Speaker 1: gonna overshadow the music and make you not like the band. Now.

873
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:10,800
Speaker 1: I think it's great to be an activist, but I

874
00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:14,000
Speaker 1: feel like he's activist first, and maybe his glasses just

875
00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:17,040
Speaker 1: pissed me off. Like those glasses aren't even real sunglasses.

876
00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:19,719
Speaker 1: I'm wearing sunglasses right now because I got lights right

877
00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:21,879
Speaker 1: in my eyeballs, but like he wears the clear ones,

878
00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:27,120
Speaker 1: they're not even sunglasses. But I feel like Bono's like

879
00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:29,920
Speaker 1: Messiah complex even at times, and I don't know them,

880
00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:34,839
Speaker 1: but that can dominate the narrative of youtwo. So even

881
00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:38,319
Speaker 1: if the music's good. People that really love Bono are like, no, no,

882
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:42,640
Speaker 1: it's different. It's different. The iTunes thing still hits people

883
00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:47,960
Speaker 1: because back in the day twenty fourteen ish, it was

884
00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:49,799
Speaker 1: before the Couple in the World Series, but not way

885
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:53,760
Speaker 1: before the Couple in the World Series, that album Songs

886
00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:59,560
Speaker 1: of Innocence was put on everybody's freaking iPod or iPhone.

887
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:02,799
Speaker 1: I guess I had to be iphoned. And so there

888
00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:05,239
Speaker 1: was this You two album that wasn't even that good

889
00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:09,799
Speaker 1: on everybody's iPhone. That did not help their legacy. And

890
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:11,800
Speaker 1: I remember they gave You away to delete it like

891
00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:16,640
Speaker 1: a week later. That was significant. They haven't had a

892
00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:19,719
Speaker 1: really good album in like twenty years. I looked when

893
00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:21,200
Speaker 1: we were doing the segment for the show. They really

894
00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:25,880
Speaker 1: haven't had anything in twenty twenty five years. And then

895
00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:30,880
Speaker 1: it's almost like they've been treated as untouchable gods, like

896
00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:32,960
Speaker 1: rock and roll gods. They do deserve to be in

897
00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:35,040
Speaker 1: the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. I do like

898
00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:38,720
Speaker 1: you too, but they have been basically the moral compass

899
00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:43,280
Speaker 1: of rock, and that can wear thin when every album

900
00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:46,560
Speaker 1: that comes out is also like attached to a global cause,

901
00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:50,000
Speaker 1: and I love global causes. I do sign me up

902
00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:52,600
Speaker 1: for more global causes. But it's like every album that

903
00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:55,440
Speaker 1: comes out, it's like a different rainforest or something. It's like, bro,

904
00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:58,120
Speaker 1: sometimes we just want a song to sing. It's like

905
00:47:58,160 --> 00:48:00,160
Speaker 1: a Ted Talk. I don't need a Ted Talk for

906
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:03,160
Speaker 1: every song that you put out, Bono, but I do

907
00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:05,319
Speaker 1: like you too, that's the weird thing. But I would

908
00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:08,040
Speaker 1: say I think you two has absolutely earned their place

909
00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:10,280
Speaker 1: in rock and roll Hall of Fame. I just don't

910
00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:14,040
Speaker 1: think they need a throne inside the rock and Roll

911
00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:16,480
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame to sit on and look down upon others.

912
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:19,640
Speaker 2: Let's take a quick pause for a message from our sponsor,

913
00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:30,680
Speaker 2: and we're back on the Bobby Cast.

914
00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:35,920
Speaker 1: Another question, has country music lost its identity or has

915
00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:41,200
Speaker 1: country music evolved? Country music has always been losing quote,

916
00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:45,200
Speaker 1: its identity since it was even invented. There has never

917
00:48:45,239 --> 00:48:48,400
Speaker 1: been a time, there has never been a half decade

918
00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:54,640
Speaker 1: where people weren't saying that ain't real country music. And

919
00:48:54,680 --> 00:48:56,400
Speaker 1: we can walk through this too if you want. I

920
00:48:56,400 --> 00:48:58,400
Speaker 1: feel like I've done this Ted Talk one hundred times

921
00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:02,520
Speaker 1: because sin it's day one. People have said that country

922
00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:05,680
Speaker 1: music is just not what it used to be. But

923
00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:09,799
Speaker 1: country music has always been evolving and those changes are

924
00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:14,279
Speaker 1: what keeps country music alive. And you can kind of

925
00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:17,680
Speaker 1: walk through a decade by decade and look at every

926
00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:21,200
Speaker 1: time that someone said this ain't real country, which makes

927
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:22,480
Speaker 1: you look at the people that say it now and

928
00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:25,120
Speaker 1: you look at them almost with sympathy, like you're kind

929
00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:27,440
Speaker 1: of dumb because it's been said over and over and

930
00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:30,560
Speaker 1: over again to things that were told that weren't country

931
00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:33,520
Speaker 1: that actually are again fundamentally what we think are country

932
00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:38,239
Speaker 1: music now, like the nineteen thirties, nineteen forties, and that's

933
00:49:38,239 --> 00:49:40,719
Speaker 1: back when the Grand Ole Opry started broadcasting, which I'm

934
00:49:40,719 --> 00:49:44,320
Speaker 1: going to tonight, by the way, still thriving. Critics claim

935
00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:47,120
Speaker 1: that the Opry was turning country music into a vaudeville

936
00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:49,839
Speaker 1: act because of the stage, because of the talking, because

937
00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:54,600
Speaker 1: of the fun back in the thirties and forties, And

938
00:49:54,719 --> 00:49:57,680
Speaker 1: I really credit that country music documentary on PBS. It

939
00:49:57,800 --> 00:50:03,240
Speaker 1: was fantastic. Bob Will introduced Western swing and fiddles mixed

940
00:50:03,239 --> 00:50:07,360
Speaker 1: with jazz, and the whole world, the country music world

941
00:50:07,400 --> 00:50:10,480
Speaker 1: turned over. And it's they're supposed to be dead grave

942
00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:15,000
Speaker 1: because they used an electric amp on a still guitar,

943
00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:18,640
Speaker 1: like that was not country. Isn't that crazy to think

944
00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:21,040
Speaker 1: like a still guitar. At one point, Amped Up was

945
00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:23,640
Speaker 1: not country music. But again, the people now that are

946
00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:26,120
Speaker 1: going they're in a country. That was them telling Bob Wills,

947
00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:30,319
Speaker 1: you ain't country, telling the Grand Ole Opry you ain't country.

948
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:35,080
Speaker 1: In the nineteen fifties, it was too much rock and roll, Elvis,

949
00:50:35,120 --> 00:50:39,719
Speaker 1: Carl Perkins, Johnny Cash. They definitely blurred the lines with rockabilly.

950
00:50:40,920 --> 00:50:42,320
Speaker 1: And if you ever heard of the Nashville sound, it

951
00:50:42,360 --> 00:50:44,040
Speaker 1: was a much smoother type of country music. And the

952
00:50:44,120 --> 00:50:46,560
Speaker 1: Nashville sound comes to mind now because Brian Wilson just

953
00:50:46,600 --> 00:50:48,840
Speaker 1: died and Brian Wilson used the Wrecking Crew, and the

954
00:50:48,880 --> 00:50:56,440
Speaker 1: Wrecking Crew had, you know, these artists that were like

955
00:50:56,520 --> 00:50:59,080
Speaker 1: session players now, but the best. But that's what the

956
00:50:59,160 --> 00:51:03,360
Speaker 1: Nashville sound kind of turned into. Very slick. It was

957
00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:10,440
Speaker 1: like strings. It was an attempt to popularize pop up

958
00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:14,880
Speaker 1: country music. But old school fans called that sellout music.

959
00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:19,799
Speaker 1: But I mean, that's Patsy Klein, that's Jim Reeves, that's

960
00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:24,200
Speaker 1: things we look at now, that's country music. In the

961
00:51:24,239 --> 00:51:27,640
Speaker 1: seventies it was the outlaws are killing country music. What's

962
00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:29,840
Speaker 1: weird now is like the outlaws are man. That's my

963
00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:32,520
Speaker 1: favorite Outlaw era. But the Outlaws were told they weren't

964
00:51:32,520 --> 00:51:34,799
Speaker 1: country music by the same people. Now they're going, that's

965
00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:37,879
Speaker 1: not country music too. Insert whichever artists now they're mad at.

966
00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:40,400
Speaker 1: But in the seventies it was all about the outlaws

967
00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:42,520
Speaker 1: and how the outlaws are killing country music. Willie and

968
00:51:42,520 --> 00:51:46,640
Speaker 1: Whalen and Chris Christofferson. They rejected all of that, the

969
00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:53,680
Speaker 1: Nashville sound that was so smooth and polished. Critics called

970
00:51:54,000 --> 00:52:01,799
Speaker 1: the outlaw music disrespectful, not traditional. So the music we

971
00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:06,799
Speaker 1: look at now as what created country was looked at

972
00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:13,480
Speaker 1: then as what's ruining country. There's definitely a pattern with

973
00:52:13,600 --> 00:52:17,000
Speaker 1: annoying people going that ain't country. In the eighties it

974
00:52:17,080 --> 00:52:22,440
Speaker 1: got to pop Alabama, Kenny Rodgers, Dolly Parton, Like everybody's

975
00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:24,760
Speaker 1: like your pop artists, your pop artists, your pop artist.

976
00:52:25,040 --> 00:52:28,280
Speaker 1: I mean, heck, Kenny Rogers was actually a pop artist.

977
00:52:28,560 --> 00:52:32,640
Speaker 1: You know that song? Eh, what condition my condition was in?

978
00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:34,880
Speaker 1: That was Kenny Rogers. And I'm not gonna say he

979
00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:36,320
Speaker 1: was a failed pop artist, but he was a failed

980
00:52:36,320 --> 00:52:40,319
Speaker 1: pop artist who then came to country. Dolly bounced back

981
00:52:40,320 --> 00:52:45,160
Speaker 1: and forth because she could. Traditionalists were all pissed off

982
00:52:46,440 --> 00:52:49,120
Speaker 1: at all these pop artists that were making country. How

983
00:52:49,160 --> 00:52:54,120
Speaker 1: familiar does that sound right now? Probably very But they

984
00:52:54,160 --> 00:52:56,920
Speaker 1: expanded the country music audience. They made people listen that

985
00:52:56,960 --> 00:52:59,399
Speaker 1: normally wouldn't want to listen, while still dominated the country

986
00:52:59,480 --> 00:53:03,880
Speaker 1: charts and the Garth Garth's Gonna Run Country and a

987
00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:08,480
Speaker 1: lot of times because of his pyro stage shows, huge

988
00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:12,600
Speaker 1: crossover success. Circus. Garth does the circus, it's not even

989
00:53:12,600 --> 00:53:15,680
Speaker 1: a real tour. He became the biggest solo artist of

990
00:53:15,680 --> 00:53:19,360
Speaker 1: all time. And now we look at Garth. There's no

991
00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:22,200
Speaker 1: question Garth was country, but Garth was getting pushed back

992
00:53:22,239 --> 00:53:26,360
Speaker 1: on being country. Two thousands. That's what we kind of

993
00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:30,760
Speaker 1: got here broke country and that was beer and trucks

994
00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:35,319
Speaker 1: and girls, and country music lost its soul. But bro

995
00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:39,160
Speaker 1: country again did what some of those other generations were

996
00:53:39,160 --> 00:53:41,080
Speaker 1: they It brought new fans. The first time I heard

997
00:53:41,080 --> 00:53:42,880
Speaker 1: Nelly and Florida Georgian Line do Cruise, I was like,

998
00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:47,319
Speaker 1: that's it, And yeah, looking back, was it kind of lame? No? No,

999
00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:51,799
Speaker 1: it wasn't. It was awesome for the time. And I

1000
00:53:51,840 --> 00:53:53,719
Speaker 1: think it sucks to say the word bro country to

1001
00:53:53,800 --> 00:53:56,040
Speaker 1: like Luke Brian who's a friend of mine. But they

1002
00:53:56,080 --> 00:53:58,120
Speaker 1: weren't doing bro country. To do bro country. That was

1003
00:53:58,200 --> 00:53:59,920
Speaker 1: just a vibe at the time, And you're gonna tell

1004
00:53:59,920 --> 00:54:03,200
Speaker 1: me that didn't bring tons of fans in. And it's

1005
00:54:03,239 --> 00:54:05,719
Speaker 1: easy and it feels good to hate on bro country now,

1006
00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:10,560
Speaker 1: but it was really good. Like it got corny because

1007
00:54:10,600 --> 00:54:12,440
Speaker 1: everybody started doing it, and then it got very corny.

1008
00:54:13,680 --> 00:54:16,520
Speaker 1: Today there's too much hip hop, there's too much pop,

1009
00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:23,399
Speaker 1: Post Malone, Diplo, Beyonce. That ain't country, But what even

1010
00:54:23,480 --> 00:54:25,640
Speaker 1: is country? And the one thing that has stayed consistent

1011
00:54:25,640 --> 00:54:28,200
Speaker 1: with country music as it's always evolving, And the one

1012
00:54:28,239 --> 00:54:30,160
Speaker 1: thing that stays consistent is people are going, well, that

1013
00:54:30,200 --> 00:54:32,279
Speaker 1: ain't country. So the next time you see somebody go well,

1014
00:54:32,280 --> 00:54:35,400
Speaker 1: that ain't country, just know they're a freaking idiot because

1015
00:54:35,400 --> 00:54:37,360
Speaker 1: it's impossible to say what's not country. There are some

1016
00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:39,840
Speaker 1: things now that could be happening that in ten years

1017
00:54:39,880 --> 00:54:43,440
Speaker 1: won't still be country because the actual gatekeepers are the people,

1018
00:54:43,480 --> 00:54:47,160
Speaker 1: the consumer. But when you see somebody or an article

1019
00:54:47,200 --> 00:54:50,640
Speaker 1: written by whomever going this ain't country music, just know

1020
00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:52,919
Speaker 1: they've called the Grand Ole Op revidable. And that same

1021
00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:55,000
Speaker 1: rider was probably doing that in the thirties and forties

1022
00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:58,280
Speaker 1: on a different timeline. They don't know anything about music

1023
00:54:58,320 --> 00:55:04,560
Speaker 1: that you don't know. So had country music never changed

1024
00:55:04,560 --> 00:55:06,400
Speaker 1: and also boxes for an hour, I'm not going to

1025
00:55:07,040 --> 00:55:09,320
Speaker 1: it would have died in a barn in the thirties.

1026
00:55:10,680 --> 00:55:14,000
Speaker 1: The only constant country music is that somebody always sucks

1027
00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:20,799
Speaker 1: and it's changing it. So that's what's up. It's not

1028
00:55:20,800 --> 00:55:24,680
Speaker 1: losing its identity. It's always trying to find its new identity,

1029
00:55:25,400 --> 00:55:27,840
Speaker 1: is what I would say there. I want to do

1030
00:55:27,880 --> 00:55:34,080
Speaker 1: two more questions. If you had one hour of uninterrupted

1031
00:55:34,120 --> 00:55:36,439
Speaker 1: airtime that every American had to listen to, what would

1032
00:55:36,440 --> 00:55:42,640
Speaker 1: you say? It's good? I think I would say that

1033
00:55:42,640 --> 00:55:45,240
Speaker 1: we're all way, way way more alike than we are different,

1034
00:55:45,840 --> 00:55:52,160
Speaker 1: and that politicians need to divide you to exist, like

1035
00:55:52,239 --> 00:55:54,600
Speaker 1: they need to divide you like we need water and air.

1036
00:55:56,320 --> 00:56:00,440
Speaker 1: So the politicians that you're a huge fan of, if

1037
00:56:00,480 --> 00:56:02,560
Speaker 1: you are a huge fan of, they need you to

1038
00:56:02,600 --> 00:56:06,080
Speaker 1: not like the other party because that's what's going to

1039
00:56:06,120 --> 00:56:08,080
Speaker 1: motivate you. I watched this thing once and it was

1040
00:56:08,080 --> 00:56:10,799
Speaker 1: one of those shows like twenty twenty your Nightline. They

1041
00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:13,880
Speaker 1: had all these people that were trying to lose weight,

1042
00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:17,400
Speaker 1: and they said, okay, we have this first group and

1043
00:56:17,440 --> 00:56:20,920
Speaker 1: we're gonna give them the offer of if you lose

1044
00:56:21,120 --> 00:56:23,759
Speaker 1: twenty pounds and eight weeks, we're gonna give you one

1045
00:56:23,800 --> 00:56:26,120
Speaker 1: thousand dollars. We have this other group the same amount

1046
00:56:26,160 --> 00:56:28,920
Speaker 1: of people, different people, but same amount. And if you

1047
00:56:28,960 --> 00:56:32,120
Speaker 1: don't lose that weight, we've taken nude pictures of you.

1048
00:56:32,160 --> 00:56:34,200
Speaker 1: We're gonna post them on the internet. So it was

1049
00:56:34,239 --> 00:56:36,960
Speaker 1: positive versus negative reward. You know. The one that worked

1050
00:56:36,960 --> 00:56:40,200
Speaker 1: that actually motivated people was the negative reward, like crazy,

1051
00:56:40,239 --> 00:56:42,799
Speaker 1: because people are like, well, yeah, this sucks. I guess

1052
00:56:42,800 --> 00:56:44,560
Speaker 1: I don't need the thousand. Well, people don't want their

1053
00:56:44,560 --> 00:56:47,240
Speaker 1: wieners on the internet if they don't put it on there.

1054
00:56:48,200 --> 00:56:52,040
Speaker 1: And so negativity always moves people. We've seen some really

1055
00:56:52,080 --> 00:56:58,680
Speaker 1: bad things in history with negativity and division. So politicians

1056
00:56:59,600 --> 00:57:06,200
Speaker 1: they yearn to divide generally, they need it. They need

1057
00:57:06,239 --> 00:57:09,080
Speaker 1: you divided, and they need you fighting. And in that fight,

1058
00:57:09,160 --> 00:57:14,200
Speaker 1: you need to fight for them. So you're more like

1059
00:57:14,239 --> 00:57:18,760
Speaker 1: the person that you can't stand than you ever thought

1060
00:57:18,840 --> 00:57:22,440
Speaker 1: you were. And the politicians that you know as mostly

1061
00:57:22,520 --> 00:57:27,919
Speaker 1: being anti something, they're being pro something. Dirt balls. Dirt balls.

1062
00:57:27,960 --> 00:57:30,240
Speaker 1: If you can think of like ten politicians and if

1063
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Speaker 1: the first thing you think of is what they're against

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Speaker 1: instead of what they're for, dirt balls, broken system. That's

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Speaker 1: probably what I would say. One final question, what's one

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Speaker 1: conspiracy theory that you don't have to say you believe,

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Speaker 1: but you also can't let go of Epstein didn't kill himself.

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Speaker 1: There's no way Epstein kill himself. I mean there's a way,

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Speaker 1: I guess because I wasn't there, But just let me

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Speaker 1: lay out some stuff for you here. But Epstein and

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Speaker 1: supposedly now they're like, no, we saw it. I thought

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Speaker 1: the camera's broken. How can you see it now? Number One,

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Speaker 1: he was on suicide watch and then he was mysteriously

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Speaker 1: taken off suicide watch. They had him under supervision twenty

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Speaker 1: four to seven because he had already quote attempted suicide.

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Speaker 1: So he's on suicide watch, they're watching him, and all

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Speaker 1: of a sudden they take him off suicide of watch,

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Speaker 1: and that's when he kills himself because they basically gave

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Speaker 1: him the opportunity to do it. Fishy. Next up, both

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Speaker 1: security cameras malfunctioned at the same moment. The surveillance cameras

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Speaker 1: outside of a cell conveniently failed at the same time.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna tell me that they both died at the

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Speaker 1: exact same time, and that one exact time, not just

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Speaker 1: a random time where they just flipped him back on,

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Speaker 1: was the one time he killed himself. That's like your

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Speaker 1: ring doorbell cam dying right before the burglar breaks in,

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Speaker 1: like five seconds before the burglar breaks in. And that's

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Speaker 1: only one camera, not even two of them. Both guards

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Speaker 1: fell asleep at the same time as the cameras went down,

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Speaker 1: at the same time. Both guards went to sleep at

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Speaker 1: the same time. Two trained federal officers fell asleep during

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Speaker 1: the same shift, during the most high profile suicide risk

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Speaker 1: in custody. That's not just bad luck in random. That

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Speaker 1: is extremely suspicious. The other one is he was about

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Speaker 1: to name names supposedly court documents, and there was testimony

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Speaker 1: that implicated powerful people, billionaires, politicians, royalty. He wasn't just

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Speaker 1: a threat to them. He was a freaking loaded gun

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Speaker 1: pointed right out him. You know another one, his cellmate

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Speaker 1: was pulled out right before he died. So you got

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Speaker 1: two cameras to go down, you got two guards that

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Speaker 1: go to sleep, you got him taken off suicide watch,

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Speaker 1: and you got a cellmate pulled out right before he died.

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Speaker 1: That sealmate was in there for quote safety, and they

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Speaker 1: removed the one person that would have been a witness.

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Speaker 1: His injuries didn't match a hanging. The government closed the

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Speaker 1: book super fast. They're like, yeh done. Epstein killed himself,

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Speaker 1: all right. Next up, and then the really weird one

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Speaker 1: was Giselaine Maxwell. You know, you see it in all

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Speaker 1: the pictures with him. It was like his girlfriend or

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Speaker 1: like his trafficking partner or both. Like she was convicted

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Speaker 1: of trafficking kids, but to no one. She was found

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Speaker 1: guilty of trafficking underage girls to clients. But there is

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Speaker 1: no list, there's no follow up, no no names. We're

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Speaker 1: what's happening here. So that's the one. I don't know

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Speaker 1: anybody who thinks that he actually killed himself. Yeah, that's crazy,

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Speaker 1: that's crazy. Okay, that's it. We did fifty minutes fifty

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Speaker 1: minute club. We're done. We'll do it again sometime soon.

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Speaker 1: Thank you. If you enjoyed these one on ones, please

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Speaker 1: let me know. We'll do another one next week week after.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, we'll see how it goes. All right,

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Speaker 1: that's it for this episode of the Bobby Cast. We

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Speaker 1: do coming up, we have Mark Cuban coming up. We

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Speaker 1: have Brooks and Dunn coming up, interviews with them that

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Speaker 1: are super cool. I'm super excited to have. So I

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Speaker 1: appreciate you guys listening and we will see you guys soon.

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Speaker 2: All right, bye, Everyboddy, thanks for listening to a Bobby

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