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Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, welcome to another episode of I Saw What

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Speaker 1: You Did. My name is Millie to Jericho, I'm Danielle Henderson,

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Speaker 1: and yes.

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Speaker 2: It is us.

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Speaker 1: We are back again to talk about movies as we

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Speaker 1: always do.

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Speaker 2: What's up? How you been doing? Okay? Ye doing?

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Speaker 3: Okay?

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Speaker 4: No house updates today because I've gotten some overwhelming news

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Speaker 4: that I don't want to talk about.

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Speaker 3: Oh God, how are you doing.

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Speaker 2: I'm good, you know, just how I'm hanging in there.

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Speaker 1: I actually went to the movies again, and yeah, I

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Speaker 1: went to the movies again and fell asleep in it.

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Speaker 2: So I don't know what to I don't know what

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Speaker 2: that means.

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Speaker 4: So you ventured out in these COVID streets to see

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Speaker 4: a movie and then.

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Speaker 2: Just fell asleep? Yes, what was the movie?

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, it's like, I don't even want to

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Speaker 1: say it because it's outrageous. It's this movie called The

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Speaker 1: Holy Mountain, which was made in the seventies by this director,

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Speaker 1: Alejandro Yodarowski. So, you know, I'm not sure if anybody

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Speaker 1: out here is a Yadoroski fan or not. I would

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Speaker 1: be willing to venture that maybe some people haven't heard

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Speaker 1: of him, or maybe some people have only seen El Topo,

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Speaker 1: which is kind of his I would say, maybe his

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Speaker 1: most famous movie. It was basically the original Midnight Movie.

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Speaker 2: And you know, it's kind of this like surrealist Western.

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Speaker 1: But Holy Mountain is this I don't even know what

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Speaker 1: to say. It's this kind of like biblical allegory about

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Speaker 1: it's real weird.

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Speaker 2: But it's also just.

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Speaker 1: Like you know how it is with like certain films,

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Speaker 1: Like you know, when you go in watching like a

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Speaker 1: David Lynch film, for just as an example, right, like

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Speaker 1: when you go to watch like a Raserhead, You're like, Okay,

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Speaker 1: I know I'm in for a thing. I know that

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Speaker 1: this isn't gonna be this like necessarily like cohesive narrative

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Speaker 1: experience and I'm probably not gonna know what's happening.

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Speaker 2: And that's fine.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes you want that, right right, And sometimes when you

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Speaker 1: do want that, it delivers in a really like big way,

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Speaker 1: and sometimes it delivers in a kind of boring way.

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Speaker 2: Now, the Holy Mountain is not boring.

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Speaker 1: It is when it comes down to it, it's like

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Speaker 1: an avant garde movie that isn't boring.

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Speaker 2: The editing is really quick. There's a lot of shit

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Speaker 1: There's loud noises, there's bright colors, there's like gross shit happening.

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Speaker 2: There's nudity. I mean, as a kind of non linear.

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Speaker 1: Sort of storytelling type of film, it is exciting to

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Speaker 1: look at. So what I'm saying is that I shouldn't

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Speaker 1: have fallen asleep in it. I should not have, but

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Speaker 1: apparently that's what I did. And what time did you go?

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Speaker 2: Okay, here's this. Here's another thing. The movie started at

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Speaker 2: nine point thirty, which let's put that's.

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Speaker 3: We're playing with fire there already.

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Speaker 1: Okay, thank you, because I don't know what's happening to me.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if this is old age, but I'm like, yo,

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Speaker 1: the later a movie starts, the less I can be

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Speaker 3: I just can't completely.

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Speaker 4: If I'm if I'm going to a movie that starts

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Speaker 4: after six pm, I would say after seven pm, because

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Speaker 4: then when you figure, you know, going home, getting like

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Speaker 4: the travel all that you're home by like tennish. Any

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Speaker 4: movie that starts after seven pm, I really have to

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Speaker 4: think about it, like is it really is it really

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Speaker 4: something I want to see enough.

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Speaker 3: To fuck up my circadian rhythms.

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Speaker 1: Okay, exactly, because if we if you do the math

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Speaker 1: and you assume that if a movie starts like seven ish,

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Speaker 1: seven thirty at the latest, if it's a two hour film,

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Speaker 1: which most films these days are two hours, right, we

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Speaker 1: talk about this all the time, Like even fucking you know,

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Speaker 1: buddy comedies are like over two hours long. You're out

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Speaker 1: of there by like ten at the latest, I would say.

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Speaker 1: And that's including like fucking you know, the commercials at

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Speaker 1: So you're like, okay, like seven thirty to nine thirty ish.

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Speaker 2: Maybe ten ish at the latest is doable.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but a movie starting at nine thirty means that

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Speaker 4: If I'm on a regular day, I go to bed

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Speaker 4: at eight pm, like even us recording, Yes.

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Speaker 3: At eight pm. I'm like, oh man, like this is

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Speaker 1: I'll do it. This is the activity of the day

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Speaker 1: for me completely. This is all I'm doing today. And

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Speaker 1: I had to take a nap to make sure that

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Speaker 1: I could. This is this is my recording day.

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Speaker 4: I work then I take a nap and then we

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Speaker 4: at least for an hour and a half so that

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Speaker 4: we can record, because if I don't take that nap,

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Speaker 4: I'm fun of fall asleep.

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Speaker 2: Listen, it's a shock.

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Speaker 1: I mean, we're gonna maybe talk about like our lives

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Speaker 1: as young people in this episode, maybe, but it in

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Speaker 1: my younger days, motherfucker, I was like not going out.

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Speaker 2: I was not leaving the house until like eleven pm.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, right, thank you, Because.

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Speaker 1: If you showed up at a club before ten, but

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Speaker 1: really before like eleven, you were not having fun. It

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Speaker 4: The only reason to show up at a club pre

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Speaker 4: have able and just record, you know, just request to

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Speaker 4: echo on the fucking bunnyman and practice their moves for

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Speaker 4: an hour before everyone.

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Speaker 3: Else got there.

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Speaker 4: But I also feel like I know I've known this

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Speaker 4: I was always anxious. When we're like, oh, we're gonna

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Speaker 4: leave it like nine and then we didn't leave till midnight,

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Speaker 4: and I'm like, we're missing three hours.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, of shit.

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Speaker 3: And it wasn't like we were pre gaming or anything,

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Speaker 3: And I'm like, well, if we're gonna hang out, we'll

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Speaker 2: Yeah. And because that's the other thing too, you don't

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Speaker 1: There too late, because then you do experience that whole

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Speaker 1: so made out with so and so's boyfriend and this

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Speaker 4: That was my whole life in Northern California, was waiting

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Speaker 4: for my friends who were drunk and high to get

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Speaker 4: having a great time no matter where we went.

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Speaker 3: If we went to a club, if we went to the.

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Speaker 4: Garbage depot, like they would have a great time no

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Speaker 4: matter where we went. Look, I've never been a party er.

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Speaker 4: I've never figured out how to do it well. But

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Speaker 4: I do believe that there are certain times at the

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Speaker 4: very delicate balance when you're going out to dance or

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Speaker 4: going out to drink with your friends. You can't arrive

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it is definitely a balance.

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Speaker 3: And now you're just falling asleep.

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Speaker 2: Having said any of.

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Speaker 1: This, Yes, I fell asleep in a movie, in a

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Speaker 1: cool surrealist seventies counterculture movie.

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Speaker 2: I fell asleep.

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Speaker 4: What do you think, Like, what were the criteria that

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Speaker 4: asleep in a psychedelic, loud seventies movie.

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Speaker 3: And what I'm guessing is a mostly empty theater.

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Speaker 1: No, it was actually pretty crowded, which is even more embarrassing.

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Speaker 2: Because I was just.

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Speaker 1: Sort of like, you know, it's like there's all these

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Speaker 1: everyone's like kind of hip or like wearing their like

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Speaker 1: like this grandma who ordered.

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Speaker 2: A giant popcorn.

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Speaker 1: The popcorn that I ordered was so humongous, and it

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Speaker 1: was just for me. My friend Vanessa, who who first

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Speaker 1: of all, okay, old people, like we talked about in

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Speaker 1: the episode where we talked about showing up to the party.

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Speaker 1: I think it was the episode about California where I

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Speaker 2: So I went technically went to.

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Speaker 1: The movie alone because two of my friends also went

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Speaker 1: and they all drove. We were like, after nine thirty

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Speaker 2: Let's drive three cars to this movie theater. Let's increase

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Speaker 1: Fuck it, fuck it, because I think we were all

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Speaker 1: God forbid, you have to sit through something that you

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Speaker 2: You don't want to root it for somebody else, right.

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Speaker 4: Or also, God forbid, somebody's like, let's go out for

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Speaker 2: Yes, uh uh.

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Speaker 1: But so it was just embarrassing because it was this

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Speaker 1: like this giant wardo in the back with a giant popcorn.

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Speaker 1: I did the thing where I take I got the

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Speaker 1: like plenty of movie theater popcorn and sugar. So I

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Speaker 1: don't understand what happened. I think it was just because

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Speaker 1: I was I went to dance class that morning, well

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Speaker 1: there you go, and I was exhausted from simply doing exercise.

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Speaker 1: So I had woken up early on a Saturday to

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Speaker 1: errands and like you know, I was like doing all

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Speaker 1: this stuff.

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Speaker 2: So I think I just had a full day, right,

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Speaker 2: and you did.

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Speaker 4: I'm not hearing anywhere in there that you took a

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Speaker 4: precautionary nap.

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Speaker 2: No, I didn't.

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Speaker 1: I didn't do a disco nap, which is big time

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Speaker 1: and I should have.

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Speaker 2: But it's just what I was just doing stuff.

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Speaker 1: I just was You're busy, right, But I'm telling you

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Speaker 1: right now, if the movie had started even an hour earlier,

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Speaker 1: I would have made it because I was fine the

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Speaker 1: first hour. The second hour of the movie is when

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Speaker 1: I was starting to like, you know, nod off a little.

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Speaker 4: Bit, and look, I gotta say, I can totally understand

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Speaker 4: how this happened. You had a busy day, you had

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Speaker 4: I again, these are just tiny badges of honor that

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Speaker 4: I'm making TCM business cards for you to say that,

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Speaker 4: I feel like we have people in our pod team

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Speaker 2: But you give me, like a single do drop on

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Speaker 3: Like it was not I'm telling you.

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Speaker 4: There's not a single person who works with this podcast

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Speaker 3: After seven pm. Yeah, and we all know it.

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Speaker 4: But I do agree with you there, Adalyse that when

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Speaker 4: Thank you for telling us your how the how you

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Speaker 5: I'm happy to share the stories of my my slumber

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Speaker 1: So gosh, thanks, thank you Onalise, Analise our amazing engineer.

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Speaker 2: They're the best. Thank you so much. Well, but honestly,

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Speaker 1: If you have a story, what's the most outrageous movie

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Speaker 1: email us at Oh I saw what.

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Speaker 3: You did, pot at Gmail.

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Speaker 1: I thought you were gonna say I thought it was

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Speaker 3: Let me say my home earlier.

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Speaker 1: Well, honestly, I would be curious to know there have

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Speaker 3: Yes, everyone, cool?

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Speaker 1: Actually, you know, as Autolius was speaking, I was sitting

446
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Speaker 1: here thinking, honestly, the best.

447
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Speaker 2: Time for me to watch a movie is in the morning.

448
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Speaker 4: Now, I have done so many of our double features

449
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Speaker 4: in the morning.

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Speaker 3: Yes, and it's a whole different world.

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Speaker 1: I mean, listen, I'm a morning person now, I'm a

452
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Speaker 1: alerts I get the coffee going.

453
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Speaker 2: I would watch a movie at.

454
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Speaker 1: Nine thirty in the morning, not nine thirty pm.

455
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Speaker 3: So it's it's who we are now.

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Speaker 4: And speaking of who we are now, let's think about

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Speaker 4: who we were then as we get into our theme

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Speaker 4: for this week.

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Speaker 2: Segue did it? Segue?

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Speaker 4: Boo boo boo, boom baby baboo.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, this week's theme is unstoppable if you

462
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Speaker 1: ask me.

463
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Speaker 4: Oh my goodness. So we decided way back when when we.

464
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Speaker 3: Were picking this theme.

465
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Speaker 4: I just I have such vivid and wonderful memories of

466
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Speaker 4: us building our theme calendar.

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Speaker 3: Yes, and this one made that this laughs so hard.

468
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Speaker 3: I will be so.

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Speaker 4: Impressed if anyone guesses it. But our theme this week

470
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Speaker 4: is the late fees cost more than the rental because

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Speaker 4: we couldn't just do a theme called video stores.

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Speaker 3: That's not who we are, right, Like when we.

473
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Speaker 4: Did the Floris Lava and people were guessing, like the

474
00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:24,520
Speaker 4: theme is volcanoes. Give us some credit, y'all. It's never

475
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Speaker 4: gonna be just like a one word theme. Well I shouldn't.

476
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Speaker 4: I shouldn't say that. We try to put a little

477
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Speaker 4: more thought and effort into the theme than that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we like to think of ourselves as very complex

479
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Speaker 1: and textured individuals, so it wouldn't just be video stores.

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Speaker 1: But for the most part, people are pretty good at guessing.

481
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Speaker 1: I mean they've come up with some really good guesses lately.

482
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Speaker 1: I think they're onto us.

483
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Speaker 3: For sure, which I love.

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Speaker 4: I love that we're like in sync with people where

485
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Speaker 4: they're like, I know what y'all are going to do

486
00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:56,320
Speaker 4: with this, yeah, and then they pick out the nugget

487
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Speaker 4: and there they go.

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Speaker 3: I love connecting with our audience that way.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And sometimes they suggest themes that are like sometimes

490
00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:05,720
Speaker 1: better and I'm always like fuck.

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Speaker 4: Like a lot, Like that's Shelley Winters the fuck Boys episode,

492
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Speaker 4: which was great. I still stand by the fact that

493
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Speaker 4: we chose good fuck boys for the boy episode.

494
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Speaker 3: But there were two people in.

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Speaker 4: The comments on Instagram who were like, the see the

496
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Speaker 4: theme is Winters or Shelley in Winters, and I was like, fuck,

497
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Speaker 4: that's good. And there was another one that gets the

498
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Speaker 4: theme leave Shelley alone.

499
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Speaker 3: And I was like, goddamn, that's good too.

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Speaker 2: Shelley's can't catch a break?

501
00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:36,000
Speaker 3: No shit, Shelley's can't catch a break.

502
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Speaker 2: Well.

503
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Speaker 1: I appreciate all of the fucking whiz kids out there

504
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Speaker 1: that are really guessing, but yeah, if you guess the

505
00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:47,440
Speaker 1: late face costs more than the rental, then you win.

506
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Speaker 2: And if you didn't, you didn't.

507
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Speaker 1: You came up with that because honestly, the idea of

508
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Speaker 1: so first of all, want to ask you, have you

509
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Speaker 1: ever worked in a video store or what are your

510
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Speaker 1: memories of video stores?

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Speaker 3: Okay, I never never worked in a video store.

512
00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:06,239
Speaker 4: We did have a local video store growing up, and

513
00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:09,280
Speaker 4: it moved locations but kept the same owner and the

514
00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:13,960
Speaker 4: first location it was in kind of this this little

515
00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:16,960
Speaker 4: building near the creek that runs through our town, and

516
00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:19,280
Speaker 4: it was always really weird to go in there because

517
00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:21,360
Speaker 4: it's very small and cramp they didn't have a ton

518
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Speaker 4: of space. But then they moved to a spot under

519
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Speaker 4: the clock tower in the middle of town, and that

520
00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:30,800
Speaker 4: just was a little bit almost too heightened for what

521
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Speaker 4: we were doing, Like just a little bit too heightened

522
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Speaker 4: to rent Bill and Ted's for the tenth time in

523
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Speaker 4: a row.

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Speaker 3: But like, the video store was my life.

525
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Speaker 4: And because it was eighties nineties, once the account was open,

526
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Speaker 4: I didn't have to I was I was a child.

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Speaker 3: No one asked for ID.

528
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Speaker 4: No, they just let us rent movies unless they were like,

529
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Speaker 4: you know, super duper R rated pornos or something like

530
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Speaker 4: X rated pornos.

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Speaker 3: We could rent anything.

532
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Speaker 4: It was just like the library, where it's like, here's

533
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Speaker 4: your library card, go.

534
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Speaker 3: Ahead and do what you want to do.

535
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Speaker 4: So I loved going to the video store, and then

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Speaker 4: as an adult, video stores were a huge part of

537
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Speaker 4: my life until at least mot Mocking I'm mid almost

538
00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:12,080
Speaker 4: late twenties. Yeah, because you know, DVDs, even when DVDs

539
00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:14,320
Speaker 4: became like a thing, I didn't jump on that train

540
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Speaker 4: ride away because I still had so many video cassettes

541
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Speaker 4: at a huge library. So yeah, I love a video store.

542
00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:27,879
Speaker 4: I've experienced everything from the rude video store clerk who

543
00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:30,040
Speaker 4: will not answer any of your questions and things you

544
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Speaker 4: are an idiot, to the overly friendly video store clerk

545
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Speaker 4: who recommends things that are so bonkers because they just

546
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Speaker 4: want someone to talk to to, like the middle of

547
00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:41,400
Speaker 4: the road mom and pop who were just like, give

548
00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:43,240
Speaker 4: us your three dollars. We're trying to send our kids

549
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Speaker 4: to college. Yep, yeah, I love video stores. Miss them great,

550
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Speaker 4: Oh my god, I missed them too.

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Speaker 1: We still have one here in Atlanta, the wonderful, great

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Speaker 1: Epic Video Drome, which I worked at briefly, so I

553
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Speaker 1: have actually worked in a video store. But honestly, video

554
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Speaker 1: stores were my entire life. They shaped who I am,

555
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Speaker 1: you know, back from my childhood where my parents never

556
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Speaker 1: took us to first run fucking.

557
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Speaker 2: Movies because they were too cheap.

558
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Speaker 1: So they only let us rend like dollar videos at

559
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Speaker 1: the local video store in my town which was called

560
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Speaker 1: Blackwell Video. But then we also we used to rent

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Speaker 1: them from the fucking grocery store too.

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Speaker 3: Yes, yes, that was a big deal.

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Speaker 2: That was a big deal.

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Speaker 1: And then eventually when I moved downtown, when you make

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Speaker 1: the move downtown. There was a video store. I actually

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Speaker 1: wrote about this. I did a piece for a twenty

567
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Speaker 1: four's blog maybe like a few years ago. I was

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Speaker 1: about kind of my video store memories and stuff. But

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Speaker 1: so I hope if anybody has read that, I'm repeating

570
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Speaker 1: what I wrote.

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Speaker 2: So I'm plagiarizing myself.

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Speaker 3: If you haven't read it, you should because it's a

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Speaker 3: beautiful place, Thank.

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Speaker 2: You very much. But and that's not a plug for

575
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Speaker 2: my writing.

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying I'm going to repeat something that's already online. So,

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Speaker 1: but there was this video store called blast Off Video

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Speaker 1: that was in little Five Points, which it was kind

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Speaker 1: of the like Saint Mark's Place or something of Atlanta, right,

580
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Speaker 1: And the whole fucking vibe of that place like set

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Speaker 1: me on a path because it wasn't just the movies there,

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Speaker 1: which the whole the whole video store was essentially like,

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Speaker 1: you know, anything that was like esoteric, weird, transgressive. They

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00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:45,800
Speaker 1: did a you know, some independent stuff, you know, kind

585
00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:49,560
Speaker 1: of these like big kind of indie directors, but for

586
00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:53,040
Speaker 1: the most part it was all just like cool, trash,

587
00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:54,920
Speaker 1: psychotronic underground.

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00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:55,440
Speaker 2: That film.

589
00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:59,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it was the guy that owned it looked

590
00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:02,920
Speaker 1: like a sixties fucking mop top rocker.

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00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:06,840
Speaker 4: He looked like, see this is this is key, because

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00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:09,480
Speaker 4: this is something that I don't think comes up enough

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Speaker 4: when people reminisce about video stores or have nostalgia about

594
00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:14,080
Speaker 4: video stores.

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Speaker 3: The owner was the gatekeeper.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god.

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00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:20,480
Speaker 4: So what they had in that store, their tastes were

598
00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:23,400
Speaker 4: what was available to you. Absolutely like the mom and

599
00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:26,520
Speaker 4: pop shop that I used to go to in town.

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00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:30,960
Speaker 4: They didn't have esoteric stuff. They didn't they weren't, you know,

601
00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:33,479
Speaker 4: fucking with Robert Altman and with Steelman. It was just

602
00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:35,760
Speaker 4: like what you could get And then the only way

603
00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:38,360
Speaker 4: you can get that stuff is by what one of

604
00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:40,800
Speaker 4: our movies mentions today, by special orders.

605
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:43,760
Speaker 3: But you had to know what you wanted mail order.

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00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:46,680
Speaker 2: That's oh my god. We could do an entire episode

607
00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:49,480
Speaker 2: about mail order video catalogs from our youth.

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Speaker 1: Yes, and actually to the original point of our two movies.

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Speaker 1: There are two video store owners in these films, which

610
00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:00,280
Speaker 1: are very interesting and I'm sure we'll talk about them.

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Speaker 1: But the guy that ran Blosstyle Video Sam a total legend.

612
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Speaker 1: I mean, he just it was the kind of thing

613
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:09,320
Speaker 1: where like he was the first like kind of bohemian guy.

614
00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:13,360
Speaker 1: I ever met, like he burned incense in the fucking

615
00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:17,520
Speaker 1: video store. They were showing like Betty Page films and

616
00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:19,960
Speaker 1: like Russ Meyer movies, like on the screens in the

617
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Speaker 1: video store. And it was like this little hole in

618
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Speaker 1: the wall video store in an alleyway, and it was

619
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Speaker 1: my everything.

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Speaker 2: It totally made me who I was.

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Speaker 1: And so by the time I worked in a video store,

622
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Speaker 1: I was already like much older, and I felt like, Okay,

623
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Speaker 1: now I'm in this position sort of where I'm I'm

624
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Speaker 1: the guy that I went to and how am I

625
00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:42,080
Speaker 1: going to handle this responsibility?

626
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Speaker 4: But the issue is I want to know, That's what

627
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Speaker 4: I want to know. What kind of clerk were you?

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Speaker 3: Considering all of this in your background?

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Speaker 1: Well, I'll tell you right now, I was not a

630
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Speaker 1: clerk in the high video store era.

631
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Speaker 2: So it's kind of null and void, right was.

632
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Speaker 1: I worked in a video store within the past ten years,

633
00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:03,960
Speaker 1: So it's like the Internet happened, and I feel like,

634
00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:06,480
Speaker 1: I mean, I think that's the big part of what

635
00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:10,040
Speaker 1: video store culture is about, is sort of like a

636
00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:14,760
Speaker 1: it's a pre internet meeting spot for people who like shit,

637
00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:19,280
Speaker 1: and you have that's a very powerful role in that era.

638
00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:20,800
Speaker 2: That's a powerful role.

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Speaker 1: The one thing that I did as a video store

640
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Speaker 1: employee was I was real judge about people's activities on accounts. So, like,

641
00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:33,080
Speaker 1: we had this little kid who had come in, he

642
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:35,920
Speaker 1: was probably in his early twenties, who was always renting

643
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:39,040
Speaker 1: under his ex girlfriend's account.

644
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:41,880
Speaker 3: Oh uh uh, police that police this.

645
00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:46,600
Speaker 1: And I remember specifically like telling him to his face,

646
00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:50,040
Speaker 1: I was like, be a man and get your own video.

647
00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:52,960
Speaker 2: Account, like, don't keep running under this ex girlfriend.

648
00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:57,160
Speaker 1: And then the shocking part was that he was renting

649
00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:02,160
Speaker 1: with the new girlfriend under the ex girlfriend's account, and

650
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:04,520
Speaker 1: I was like, this motherfucker.

651
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:06,120
Speaker 2: Needs a lesson. And I told him that. I told

652
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:06,720
Speaker 2: him straight up.

653
00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:10,080
Speaker 1: I was like, don't come in here renting under the

654
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:12,120
Speaker 1: ax's account with your new girlfriend.

655
00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:14,120
Speaker 2: Get your own account. It's free.

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Speaker 4: Did you say that in front of the new girlfriend,

657
00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:17,360
Speaker 4: because that's epically good.

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00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:18,920
Speaker 1: No. I didn't say it in front of her because

659
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:20,720
Speaker 1: I wasn't trying to be super embarrassing, but I said

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Speaker 1: it to him like when he came in, I was like, look,

661
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:24,240
Speaker 1: get your.

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00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:25,120
Speaker 2: Own account, dude.

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Speaker 1: So if I wasn't able to judge their taste, I

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Speaker 1: was able to judge. You know, they're ethical choices when

665
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Speaker 1: it came to this.

666
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Speaker 2: But I'm so excited to talk about these movies. Oh

667
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Speaker 2: my god, me too.

668
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Speaker 4: And look, I am going to have to make a

669
00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:43,040
Speaker 4: federal case for mine being included in the late fees

670
00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:45,480
Speaker 4: costs more than the rentals, because but.

671
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:46,840
Speaker 3: I will do it. I will do it.

672
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:50,000
Speaker 4: I might have been reaching a little bit with my choice,

673
00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:51,200
Speaker 4: but I'm going to justify it.

674
00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:57,000
Speaker 1: No, it is absolutely a part of this canon because

675
00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:58,840
Speaker 1: there's so many things about that video store I want

676
00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:00,800
Speaker 1: to talk about, Okay, good, And I know that it's

677
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:03,480
Speaker 1: not like the center of the film, but by god,

678
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:05,320
Speaker 1: it's a part of that story.

679
00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:07,000
Speaker 2: And I will defend that shit with you.

680
00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:08,479
Speaker 3: So that's thank you.

681
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:11,120
Speaker 2: That's what friends are for. Am I Right? Well?

682
00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:15,680
Speaker 4: This is that just warms my goddamn heart because I'm

683
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:16,680
Speaker 4: just gonna get right into.

684
00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:19,640
Speaker 2: Till you're going first woo, get ready to help me

685
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:20,120
Speaker 2: defend this.

686
00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:27,440
Speaker 4: My movie was released in nineteen eighty seven. It was

687
00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:32,600
Speaker 4: directed by Joel Schumacher and written by Jan Fisher and

688
00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:34,000
Speaker 4: James Jeremiahs.

689
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:37,000
Speaker 3: And my movie is The Lost Boys.

690
00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:40,840
Speaker 1: Michael and Sam have just moved to Santa.

691
00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:42,760
Speaker 4: Carla, California.

692
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:45,080
Speaker 2: They're about to discover its secret.

693
00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:51,320
Speaker 1: Oh my god, damn this movie. Damn getting into it.

694
00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:54,400
Speaker 4: We're getting into it because I have not watched this

695
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:57,640
Speaker 4: movie from start to finish since I was a child. Yes,

696
00:33:57,960 --> 00:33:59,840
Speaker 4: and I know this was a big This is a

697
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:01,640
Speaker 4: heavy hitter in our bracket.

698
00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:02,040
Speaker 3: Is it good?

699
00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:05,240
Speaker 4: Or was I horny? It was a generational divide a

700
00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:09,080
Speaker 4: kind of a movie. It was a splitter, spilit the audience.

701
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:13,400
Speaker 4: And I'm just gonna come out up top and say,

702
00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:17,640
Speaker 4: this movie is so fun and I'm so glad I

703
00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:19,680
Speaker 4: got to watch it again at forty four.

704
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:21,800
Speaker 3: But this movie is not good.

705
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:28,719
Speaker 2: It is so fun, it is not good.

706
00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:31,520
Speaker 1: I almost had the exact same words written down in

707
00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:31,960
Speaker 1: front of me.

708
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:41,280
Speaker 4: I cannot believe how popular the persistence of this movie.

709
00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:45,400
Speaker 2: I can and I can't. But you know what, like,

710
00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:46,799
Speaker 2: I am with you, I'm with you.

711
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:49,719
Speaker 4: Thank God you're with me so far. Because I was

712
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:51,719
Speaker 4: just like, I gotta come out up top and say it.

713
00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:54,320
Speaker 4: I can't. I can't talk about this movie without talking

714
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:56,840
Speaker 4: about how bad it is, but how fun it is.

715
00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:58,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm gonna.

716
00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:00,279
Speaker 4: Give a little synopsis for those who may not have

717
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:02,120
Speaker 4: seen it or haven't seen it in a while. I'm

718
00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:05,360
Speaker 4: gonna give you a one sentence SYNOPSI all right, so

719
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:11,040
Speaker 4: we have a recently divorced mother moves her teen sons

720
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:16,239
Speaker 4: in with her lovably deranged father, only to find out

721
00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:22,200
Speaker 4: that the coastal town is infested with teen vampires on motorcycle.

722
00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:28,400
Speaker 1: Teen vampires on motorcycles is a russ Meyer movie.

723
00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:33,920
Speaker 4: Maybe it's a hidden gym, it's an unseen classic. This also,

724
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:38,080
Speaker 4: I was gonna do another one sentence synopsis, which I

725
00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:41,560
Speaker 4: think actually sums up this film, which is a single

726
00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:44,000
Speaker 4: mom tries unsuccessfully to go on a date.

727
00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:48,680
Speaker 2: Yes, just depends on your angle.

728
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:48,960
Speaker 1: You know.

729
00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:51,960
Speaker 2: I love it. I love it, love it.

730
00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:54,279
Speaker 4: So we're gonna talk about a couple things up top.

731
00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:57,320
Speaker 4: First and foremost, we got to talk about Santa Carla.

732
00:35:57,440 --> 00:36:02,000
Speaker 4: So this movie was filmed in Santa Cruz. And again

733
00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:05,759
Speaker 4: the director Joel Schumacher, who has given us such classics

734
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:10,000
Speaker 4: as DC Cab, Incredible Shrinking Woman, and he's the person

735
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:13,200
Speaker 4: who gave Batman nipples Yes on the suit.

736
00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:18,200
Speaker 1: Absolutely one hundred percent a legend in my mind for that.

737
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:21,200
Speaker 4: Oh, a true legend in so many ways, which you

738
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:23,400
Speaker 4: were blowing my mind with before we started recording.

739
00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:25,759
Speaker 2: Everybody go read about Joel Schumacher.

740
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:30,680
Speaker 1: Just re read the Wikipedia, read the IMDb trivia or whatever.

741
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:32,640
Speaker 2: Just go and just do like a real.

742
00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:37,840
Speaker 1: Light research of Jewel Schumacher, because he's so interesting. He's

743
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:42,640
Speaker 1: worked in film forever. You know, he has passed. He

744
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:45,640
Speaker 1: passed like kind of recently, like within the past like

745
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:47,799
Speaker 1: five years. I think he had his hand in a

746
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:50,720
Speaker 1: lot of fucking great movies of the seventies and eighties,

747
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:54,200
Speaker 1: and then he started directing, and he directed like the

748
00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:58,600
Speaker 1: Batman movies that everybody thinks are like contentious or you know,

749
00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:02,440
Speaker 1: the flops that I'm like, fucket their genius. To be honest, like,

750
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:04,640
Speaker 1: I mean.

751
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:08,680
Speaker 4: Far be it for me to place a hierarchy on

752
00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:12,640
Speaker 4: Batman movies from the eighties and nineties. But again, I

753
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:14,839
Speaker 4: will say, and this is something that I think could

754
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:18,160
Speaker 4: be said for a lot of his career. They were fun. Yes,

755
00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:20,400
Speaker 4: they were fun goddamn movies.

756
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:21,240
Speaker 2: Yeah.

757
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:24,359
Speaker 1: And he was a gay director that made Batman gay.

758
00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:28,799
Speaker 1: Put nips on the fucking suit, got a lot of

759
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:29,840
Speaker 1: buns shots.

760
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:32,279
Speaker 2: Hello, this is to me is what I like.

761
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:37,040
Speaker 4: He subjected Batman to the male gaze, absolutely absolutely heroic.

762
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:38,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, for that alone.

763
00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:42,080
Speaker 1: Well, and his career is great, you guys need to

764
00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:45,800
Speaker 1: really research and he's a he had a really interesting life,

765
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:49,120
Speaker 1: a really interesting childhood. It's just there's a lot to

766
00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:51,960
Speaker 1: discover with Joel Schumacher. So I just encourage everybody to

767
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:53,960
Speaker 1: do it. But yeah, he made the fuck out of

768
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:55,000
Speaker 1: this movie, Am I right?

769
00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:56,120
Speaker 2: He truly did.

770
00:37:56,239 --> 00:38:00,759
Speaker 4: He went ham on this movie, starting with where it

771
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:03,480
Speaker 4: was set. So this movie again filmed in Santa Cruz,

772
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:08,040
Speaker 4: Santa Cruz Boardwalk area, but the town is called Santa Carla.

773
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:11,240
Speaker 4: And here's what you need to know about Santa Carla.

774
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:15,720
Speaker 4: As soon as you arrive, based on how we've seen

775
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:19,640
Speaker 4: this family arrive, and again real quick, the cast Jason

776
00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:23,719
Speaker 4: Patrick playing Michael, teenage son, Corey Haynes playing Sam kind

777
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:27,160
Speaker 4: of a tween ager son. Diane Weist plays Lucy. So

778
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:29,480
Speaker 4: as soon as this family starts rolling into town, what's

779
00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:32,680
Speaker 4: the first thing they see? A woman French kissing a rat.

780
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:38,680
Speaker 4: Here's Santa Carla, a woman French kissing a rat.

781
00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:43,160
Speaker 1: It was really like I've been to the Santa Cruz

782
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:46,520
Speaker 1: boardwalk before. I mean, it is like a circus. It's

783
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:48,920
Speaker 1: just like any boardwalk you've ever been to. It's like

784
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:54,200
Speaker 1: going to Venice It's like you've got like weirdos, freaks, goths,

785
00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:57,520
Speaker 1: you know, a lot of like street you know people

786
00:38:57,600 --> 00:39:00,600
Speaker 1: who are like Karen erotic, exotic, adam not that kind

787
00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:03,160
Speaker 1: of stuff, but like, yeah, kiss it a rat.

788
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:06,880
Speaker 4: Look, you drop into any city with a boardwalk and

789
00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:09,640
Speaker 4: you're like, I wonder where I can see someone dangling

790
00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:11,160
Speaker 4: cinderblocks from their nipples.

791
00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:15,080
Speaker 3: You're going to the boardwalk, That's where you're gonna see it.

792
00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:17,440
Speaker 3: And Santa Carla is no different.

793
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:22,280
Speaker 4: Also, as soon as Michael, they're they're walking the boardwalk again.

794
00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:24,120
Speaker 3: Just kind of getting the feel for this town, and

795
00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:25,600
Speaker 3: he says to someone.

796
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:28,600
Speaker 4: Are there any jobs, like any jobs in the area,

797
00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:31,200
Speaker 4: and the guy replies, nothing legal.

798
00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:34,520
Speaker 3: Are you now getting in your car driving away?

799
00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:40,000
Speaker 4: Are you, like, mom, sincerely talk us through your decision

800
00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:42,480
Speaker 4: to come here French kissing a rat?

801
00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:43,480
Speaker 2: You have any jobs?

802
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:45,680
Speaker 3: Nothing legal? Okay, I gotcha.

803
00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:49,680
Speaker 4: Also, Santa Carla is the kind of place where you

804
00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:52,200
Speaker 4: can buy a leather jacket, because when you.

805
00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:53,640
Speaker 3: Want a leather jacket, where do you go?

806
00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:57,120
Speaker 4: The fucking boardwalk next to a beach, which is always

807
00:39:57,120 --> 00:40:00,200
Speaker 4: associated with being hot and sweaty.

808
00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:03,880
Speaker 1: That truly has it all. And if you want to

809
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:08,520
Speaker 1: become a local badass. Just go to the boardwalk. You

810
00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:11,560
Speaker 1: can get your ears pears, you can get your leather.

811
00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:16,480
Speaker 4: Jacket, you can dangle a cinderblock from your tongue, and

812
00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:18,120
Speaker 4: then just pick up the love of your life and

813
00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:21,800
Speaker 4: go home and have tons of babies with teased mullets.

814
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:29,160
Speaker 4: This place is incredible, and you get the feeling people

815
00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:31,880
Speaker 4: are being hunted right off the bed. There's lots of

816
00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:35,800
Speaker 4: sweeping shots from the air, you know, showing the movement

817
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:40,040
Speaker 4: of vampiers as they swoop down to kind of catch

818
00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:42,279
Speaker 4: their prey. But then let's go google a little bit

819
00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:43,480
Speaker 4: more into the movie, because this is where we're going

820
00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:45,800
Speaker 4: to start to make my case for the video store

821
00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:47,839
Speaker 4: before we get to the vamps. I'm gonna save the vamps,

822
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:50,120
Speaker 4: maybe even for less, because I think the video store

823
00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:53,040
Speaker 4: is more important than the vamps. So the video store

824
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:57,480
Speaker 4: that Lucy goes into as she's again cruising the boardwalk,

825
00:40:57,520 --> 00:41:00,359
Speaker 4: she sees this little kid he's lost his mom, and

826
00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:02,959
Speaker 4: she helps him find his mom, and the video store

827
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:05,719
Speaker 4: owner is like so taken with her kindness that he

828
00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:06,680
Speaker 4: offers her a job.

829
00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:09,960
Speaker 1: And the guy that owns the video store, it's the

830
00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:12,720
Speaker 1: grandpa from Gilmour Girls.

831
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:16,800
Speaker 4: Yes, it is ed Herman rest in Peace King who

832
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:20,319
Speaker 4: is This was the play the Richard the grandfather on

833
00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:23,280
Speaker 4: the Gilmore Girls for our younger generation of listeners.

834
00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:25,600
Speaker 3: But he was the video store.

835
00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:27,879
Speaker 4: He's the kind of video store owner where he had

836
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:30,000
Speaker 4: the flock of seagulls swoop, he had a pair of

837
00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:32,960
Speaker 4: clear glasses on. He had a shoulder pad in a

838
00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:36,040
Speaker 4: jacket like he was kind of like that kind of

839
00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:39,640
Speaker 4: eighties cool guy sort of look that he was affecting.

840
00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:43,239
Speaker 4: But he's also very tall. So whenever like very tall

841
00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:46,040
Speaker 4: people dress incredibly trendy, I always think it's like part

842
00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:47,680
Speaker 4: of a show or a costume or something.

843
00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:51,399
Speaker 1: And I'm including myself in that. I'm six foot tall. Yeah,

844
00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:53,920
Speaker 1: his video store, So let's talk about it.

845
00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:56,040
Speaker 4: Oh my god, tell me everything you think about this

846
00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:56,760
Speaker 4: video store.

847
00:41:56,840 --> 00:41:59,960
Speaker 3: It is a true eighties video store. Yeah, in every sense.

848
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:03,680
Speaker 1: This so this video store, it's like it's it's on

849
00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:07,440
Speaker 1: the boardwalk. But then it also it looks like it

850
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:10,600
Speaker 1: almost looks like I referenced.

851
00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:12,960
Speaker 2: This store gad Zooks a lot.

852
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:15,680
Speaker 1: On those podcasts, which Daddy I was never heard of,

853
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:19,640
Speaker 1: But like I guess it was a regional store that

854
00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:22,920
Speaker 1: was super trendy in like the eighties and nineties that

855
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:25,359
Speaker 1: it was sort of like it had like this this

856
00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:28,719
Speaker 1: video store and the Lost Boys had like neon squiggles.

857
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:33,280
Speaker 1: It looked like fucking gadzooks meets the store that everybody

858
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:33,879
Speaker 1: works at.

859
00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:37,720
Speaker 2: In Facts of Life, it was called over our Heads.

860
00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:38,560
Speaker 2: It was just just like.

861
00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:43,040
Speaker 1: So it kind of looked like a clothing store Memphis style,

862
00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:46,000
Speaker 1: with like lots of like eighties squiggles, but then it

863
00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:48,759
Speaker 1: had like a giant kiss of the Spider Woman cut out.

864
00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:51,279
Speaker 2: I was just like this fucking video store. And then

865
00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:54,200
Speaker 2: the guy that owns it is him who looks like

866
00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:56,320
Speaker 2: a trendy coke dealer.

867
00:42:56,840 --> 00:43:00,799
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, And it also reminded me like the turquoise

868
00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:04,040
Speaker 4: of it and like the pale the pale pastels and

869
00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:07,160
Speaker 4: turquoise of it reminded me of like that place where

870
00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:08,520
Speaker 4: they used to eat and save by the Bell.

871
00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:11,680
Speaker 2: Yes, the Max or like the Max or like the

872
00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:14,520
Speaker 2: peach Pit. Yes, it was, oh my god, exactly.

873
00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:16,640
Speaker 3: It had like a cafeteria vibe for some reason.

874
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:19,759
Speaker 1: Totally, I was very unclear about how the layout of

875
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:24,960
Speaker 1: this video store happened. It was packed as fuck, tons

876
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:27,520
Speaker 1: of people, tons of traffic in the video store. And

877
00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:32,600
Speaker 1: then the weirdest part is that he offers Diane Wete

878
00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:33,560
Speaker 1: a job.

879
00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:38,400
Speaker 4: Thank you, in his trendy coke dealer, fucking peach pit store.

880
00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:41,280
Speaker 4: He's looking at Diane west two by the way, adorable,

881
00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:45,800
Speaker 4: looks incredible best, but she's in like her Laura Ashley Best,

882
00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:50,320
Speaker 4: wearing a cardigan over a long floral dress and talking

883
00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:52,640
Speaker 4: to a little kid like she's a kindergarten teacher. And

884
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:53,960
Speaker 4: he's like, you know, who needs to work in my

885
00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:55,480
Speaker 4: fucking neon squiggle store.

886
00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:57,319
Speaker 3: Diane Weste get her in here?

887
00:43:57,520 --> 00:43:58,960
Speaker 2: Is that a middle aged mom?

888
00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:03,440
Speaker 1: I see bring her into this video store to work?

889
00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:06,760
Speaker 1: So weird it was such a weird choice, right.

890
00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:11,760
Speaker 4: Progressive, a progressive choice. I applaud you at freaking herman

891
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:17,520
Speaker 4: Rest in peace, King aplogy for hiring the middle aged

892
00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:22,040
Speaker 4: mom who's in her Laura Ashley Best in a flat

893
00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:23,800
Speaker 4: in a flat on the beach.

894
00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:30,800
Speaker 1: She has a belted tunic sweater over a floor length skirt.

895
00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:33,080
Speaker 4: By the way, that's who you want in your store.

896
00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:36,080
Speaker 4: That's someone who will close up, count your register and

897
00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:37,320
Speaker 4: not take a dime.

898
00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:42,200
Speaker 1: Now I only have mentioned this video store is staffed

899
00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:43,240
Speaker 1: by middle aged people.

900
00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:50,080
Speaker 6: That's a boardwalk video store would not survive in any

901
00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:55,120
Speaker 6: other context. You hire one skater and your inventory is

902
00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:55,759
Speaker 6: wiped out.

903
00:44:56,080 --> 00:44:58,640
Speaker 4: But this is the other thing about this boardwalk that

904
00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:00,719
Speaker 4: I love, because this moment where they're all kind of

905
00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:02,880
Speaker 4: wandering around and trying to get their feel for what

906
00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:06,319
Speaker 4: the new town is, the video store becomes crucial to

907
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:10,520
Speaker 4: the story, primarily because the mom works there, and then

908
00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:13,680
Speaker 4: it becomes crucial in a very different way. So without

909
00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:16,239
Speaker 4: the mom being out of the house, these kids would

910
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:18,880
Speaker 4: not have been free to become vampires.

911
00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:22,000
Speaker 2: As it always happens. Am I right?

912
00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:25,600
Speaker 4: Blame the mom as always right, very progressive of me,

913
00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:30,680
Speaker 4: But I do think it's like, you know, who's your

914
00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:33,799
Speaker 4: prime target for becoming a vampire? A latch key kid.

915
00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:34,960
Speaker 4: No one's checking up on you.

916
00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:35,279
Speaker 2: Yep.

917
00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:37,360
Speaker 3: I could have become a vampire at any point in

918
00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:37,799
Speaker 3: my youth.

919
00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:41,640
Speaker 1: Agreed, And I really this is the one thing about

920
00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:45,000
Speaker 1: the movie too that really hit me this time, because,

921
00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:47,920
Speaker 1: like you, I haven't seen it from start to finish

922
00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:51,719
Speaker 1: in a long fucking time. Don't get me wrong, I

923
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:58,240
Speaker 1: have seen clips of fucking Tim Capello on stage many times,

924
00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:00,759
Speaker 1: but have I seen it from s to finish. No,

925
00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:04,480
Speaker 1: it's been a long time, and I was like, the

926
00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:09,440
Speaker 1: peer pressure that Jason Patrick experiences in this movie is

927
00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:12,320
Speaker 1: immediately totally disturbing, totally.

928
00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:14,759
Speaker 4: It is off the charts because we will soon come

929
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:19,520
Speaker 4: to find that this script relies heavily on people. I'd

930
00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:24,960
Speaker 4: think seventy percent of the script is just people's chanting. Michael, like,

931
00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:30,160
Speaker 4: dou dude, it is seventy percent of the fuck. Please

932
00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:32,120
Speaker 4: Lord give me a script like this where I can

933
00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:35,000
Speaker 4: make millions in Hollywood and seventy percent of the script

934
00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:36,040
Speaker 4: is me just saying a name.

935
00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:39,439
Speaker 3: I'll take the money and run any day.

936
00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:44,000
Speaker 4: So Michael is already an instantly in it because he

937
00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:48,080
Speaker 4: and Sam who is just wearing his Golden Girl's bess.

938
00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:51,000
Speaker 4: I mean, Corey Haim is dressed like b Arthur in

939
00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:53,800
Speaker 4: this movie in a way that I cannot even handle.

940
00:46:56,080 --> 00:46:57,680
Speaker 3: We got a linen jacket.

941
00:46:57,360 --> 00:46:58,360
Speaker 2: With a popped collar.

942
00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:01,040
Speaker 4: My grandma used to wear that shit to bingo, which

943
00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:04,919
Speaker 4: she went out with her friend Patsy. That is a

944
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:08,719
Speaker 4: be Arthur outfit. But they're at this concert because you know,

945
00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:12,040
Speaker 4: concerts just happened at the beach sometimes sometimes, and this

946
00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:16,200
Speaker 4: concert is now, this is a band. That's unique because

947
00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:20,440
Speaker 4: the frontman is not only wearing like wrestling spandex no

948
00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:22,840
Speaker 4: top oiled up, and he has like a wrestling hair

949
00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:25,759
Speaker 4: wrestling hairstyle also where he's got like very long hair,

950
00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:27,759
Speaker 4: but the top is slipped back and pulled into a

951
00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:29,160
Speaker 4: very tight ponytail.

952
00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:31,080
Speaker 2: It is very rare that you're going to.

953
00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:34,680
Speaker 4: Find a frontman who is a singer and a saxophonist.

954
00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:38,879
Speaker 4: It's a rarity, but somehow that's what we got going

955
00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:41,680
Speaker 4: on on the Santa Carla boardwalk. My cue to get

956
00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:42,920
Speaker 4: the fuck out of there. I'm like, I don't need

957
00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:45,480
Speaker 4: to see anymore. I've seen a lady French kissing a rat,

958
00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:51,040
Speaker 4: I've seen a pastel cover video store staffed by entirely

959
00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:54,920
Speaker 4: middle aged people, and now I'm watching basically what amounts

960
00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:59,000
Speaker 4: to Jake the Snake Roberts play a saxophone and singing

961
00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:02,200
Speaker 4: a song about still be even thrusting, thrusting with all

962
00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:02,640
Speaker 4: his might.

963
00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:06,680
Speaker 1: So much has been said about this part of so

964
00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:08,680
Speaker 1: much The Lost Boys. In fact, I think it's like

965
00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:11,480
Speaker 1: the only part that people actually talk about when it

966
00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:12,960
Speaker 1: gets down to brass tacks.

967
00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:16,080
Speaker 3: I think there's even like a Jon Hamm snl skit

968
00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:16,680
Speaker 3: about it.

969
00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:20,560
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I will say this right now. I

970
00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:26,680
Speaker 1: am legit obsessed with Tim Cappello. Like his vibe in

971
00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:29,880
Speaker 1: this movie is not a fucking joke to me. He

972
00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:33,480
Speaker 1: is selling it in a way that hasn't been sold

973
00:48:33,800 --> 00:48:36,640
Speaker 1: in a long time in a movie and is fucking

974
00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:39,840
Speaker 1: genius because the weirdest the style of the Lost.

975
00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:41,719
Speaker 2: Boys, to me is really interesting because it's this.

976
00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:47,320
Speaker 1: Like late eighties kind of it's almost like heavy metal

977
00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:50,560
Speaker 1: goth industrial. It's kind of like it's a lot of

978
00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:56,520
Speaker 1: like revolutionary war jackets with like fucking long hair, whips

979
00:48:56,560 --> 00:48:59,520
Speaker 1: and chains and jewels, and.

980
00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:04,160
Speaker 2: It's just like it's just it's so the look is

981
00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:07,279
Speaker 2: so heavy duty on all these fucking.

982
00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:13,080
Speaker 1: People, like the vampires especially, but Tim Cappello, Yes, high

983
00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:14,680
Speaker 1: wattage shit going on.

984
00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:18,280
Speaker 2: His whole body is oiled, oiled.

985
00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:21,799
Speaker 3: Who's oil in your back? That is such dedication?

986
00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:24,520
Speaker 4: Oh my god, do you have like an oil spit

987
00:49:24,560 --> 00:49:26,360
Speaker 4: at home that you just like rub against? Like my

988
00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:29,400
Speaker 4: cat has a brush that I can attach to the

989
00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:32,520
Speaker 4: corner of a wall and he just like brushes against

990
00:49:32,520 --> 00:49:34,960
Speaker 4: it to get his hair off. He's got like one

991
00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:36,399
Speaker 4: of those for oil, and he's like, let me get

992
00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:38,239
Speaker 4: my back, let me get my neck, let me get

993
00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:38,880
Speaker 4: my arms.

994
00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:43,320
Speaker 1: I just gotta say he's he's just a fucking legend.

995
00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:46,640
Speaker 1: He deserves every bit of praise that he gets. He

996
00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:51,359
Speaker 1: makes this fucking movie. His simple appearance in the film

997
00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:53,400
Speaker 1: is what makes this movie for me.

998
00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:56,640
Speaker 4: Look, let's make sure that COVID hasn't taken our sweet

999
00:49:56,640 --> 00:50:02,280
Speaker 4: Prince Resid in Peace King Preliminary and he's still alive

1000
00:50:02,360 --> 00:50:05,359
Speaker 4: and performing. We are making this happen as soon as

1001
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:10,400
Speaker 4: it's safe to go outdoors. COVID, don't take our sweet

1002
00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:12,320
Speaker 4: prints of sax tim Capella.

1003
00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:17,440
Speaker 1: But this entire concert sequence is so crazy to me

1004
00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:22,319
Speaker 1: because it's like, yes, there's lid fires happening. It's the

1005
00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:26,840
Speaker 1: moment that like Jason Patrick sees the Jamie Gertz character

1006
00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:31,240
Speaker 1: for the first time and is straight up scarily staring

1007
00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:34,600
Speaker 1: at her instant stalker, instant stalker.

1008
00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:35,560
Speaker 3: He's like, Oh, I.

1009
00:50:35,560 --> 00:50:40,320
Speaker 4: See a woman with a Stevie fucking Nick's glitter.

1010
00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:44,680
Speaker 2: Belt skirt on. That's Milady.

1011
00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:47,759
Speaker 4: She had such a sixties look compared to like the

1012
00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:51,160
Speaker 4: Russian revolutionary look that the rest of the vampires had,

1013
00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:53,520
Speaker 4: And I'm like, that's how you know she hasn't been

1014
00:50:53,560 --> 00:50:56,680
Speaker 4: turned yet, because she still has some color in her face,

1015
00:50:56,800 --> 00:50:59,719
Speaker 4: but she's dressed like, oh, I might see people in

1016
00:50:59,719 --> 00:51:03,719
Speaker 4: the day, and like, at first.

1017
00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:08,840
Speaker 1: I was like truly shocked that he was staring so hard.

1018
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:12,320
Speaker 1: Like I was like, Yo, this guy is staring too hard.

1019
00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:17,160
Speaker 1: And Jason Patrick has beautiful hypnotizing eyes, so I get it.

1020
00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:19,000
Speaker 1: But I was also like, this is a little too much.

1021
00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:21,160
Speaker 1: And it wasn't until later that I found out, Oh,

1022
00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:24,160
Speaker 1: it was because you know, she's you know, under the

1023
00:51:24,280 --> 00:51:30,680
Speaker 1: vampire story, the general story of how vampires operate, they're supposed.

1024
00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:33,000
Speaker 2: To be like alluring and they're supposed to be hypnotizing.

1025
00:51:33,239 --> 00:51:34,560
Speaker 1: So then there was a moment I was like, well,

1026
00:51:34,560 --> 00:51:37,040
Speaker 1: it's just because she's fucking hanging out with vampires where

1027
00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:41,400
Speaker 1: she's like locking them in. But I said, if anyone

1028
00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:44,000
Speaker 1: looked at me at this concert like that, I would

1029
00:51:44,040 --> 00:51:47,880
Speaker 1: be like putting the fucking pepper spray in my hand,

1030
00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:48,920
Speaker 1: being like, oh my.

1031
00:51:48,880 --> 00:51:51,440
Speaker 4: God, I'm dialing nine to one and keeping my thumb

1032
00:51:51,440 --> 00:51:57,000
Speaker 4: over the one. I will watch this concert, but I

1033
00:51:57,040 --> 00:51:59,399
Speaker 4: will always also make sure that someone can get here

1034
00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:05,560
Speaker 4: immediately if I need them to. He was being a creep,

1035
00:52:05,640 --> 00:52:07,279
Speaker 4: and she just did her thing. She's like, yeah, I'm

1036
00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:09,160
Speaker 4: gonna watch this concert. I know I'm hot whatever, I'm

1037
00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:13,400
Speaker 4: doing my thing, and uh, this is where we meet

1038
00:52:13,640 --> 00:52:14,720
Speaker 4: after the concert.

1039
00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:16,120
Speaker 3: He tries to chatter up.

1040
00:52:16,680 --> 00:52:20,440
Speaker 4: And this is where we meet the Keefer Sutherland character

1041
00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:28,120
Speaker 4: of David, which again, you're gonna be a vamp named David.

1042
00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:31,840
Speaker 2: I don't know why. That just fucks me up a

1043
00:52:31,880 --> 00:52:34,000
Speaker 2: little bit. What's your name?

1044
00:52:34,040 --> 00:52:36,960
Speaker 1: It's not like Nikolai or like fucking Morris.

1045
00:52:37,640 --> 00:52:40,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, my name's David.

1046
00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:41,000
Speaker 2: I'm Dave.

1047
00:52:41,080 --> 00:52:45,239
Speaker 1: I'm vampire, vampire out at the boardwalk. It's like a

1048
00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:47,040
Speaker 1: character from what we do in the Shadows.

1049
00:52:48,920 --> 00:52:52,680
Speaker 2: Come Dave, I vamp. Can't stop me. I'll bite your

1050
00:52:52,680 --> 00:52:56,920
Speaker 2: face right fucking now. Keifer was working that mullet man.

1051
00:52:57,000 --> 00:52:58,600
Speaker 2: Holy shit, Oh my god.

1052
00:52:58,840 --> 00:53:01,759
Speaker 4: The best thing about this manvampire gang, which consists of

1053
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:06,880
Speaker 4: Alex Winter, Billy Worth, and Brooke McCarter. The best thing

1054
00:53:06,920 --> 00:53:11,440
Speaker 4: about this vampire gang is that they automatically arrange themselves

1055
00:53:11,600 --> 00:53:14,040
Speaker 4: by the impressiveness of the mullet that they have.

1056
00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:15,279
Speaker 3: Yes, like the.

1057
00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:18,520
Speaker 4: Mullet with the big teas bangs is always right behind David.

1058
00:53:18,520 --> 00:53:21,280
Speaker 4: Because David's the leader. He's got the most serious coat

1059
00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:24,160
Speaker 4: and the most intense mullet. So he is the leader

1060
00:53:24,719 --> 00:53:26,920
Speaker 4: and they just automatically line up that way, and then

1061
00:53:27,040 --> 00:53:28,320
Speaker 4: Alex Winter comes along.

1062
00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:30,120
Speaker 3: Alex Winter looks like a little doll.

1063
00:53:30,560 --> 00:53:34,880
Speaker 4: He looks like an American girl vampire, just like a

1064
00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:36,960
Speaker 4: doll that you've let out sit outside in the snow

1065
00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:40,520
Speaker 4: for a season. He's just like, so cute, but so withered.

1066
00:53:41,640 --> 00:53:44,439
Speaker 4: I love this vampgang, and this vampgang is not fucking around.

1067
00:53:44,480 --> 00:53:47,480
Speaker 4: They're like, hey, Michael, how about you come try to

1068
00:53:47,520 --> 00:53:49,239
Speaker 4: hang with us, and I'm going to try to run

1069
00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:53,279
Speaker 4: your bike over a cliff in the fog. Which come on, now,

1070
00:53:53,400 --> 00:53:56,359
Speaker 4: what kind of sense you have where you're racing motorcycles

1071
00:53:56,360 --> 00:54:00,080
Speaker 4: and mopeds in the fog in a new town with

1072
00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:02,440
Speaker 4: people who look like they could take you out of

1073
00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:04,640
Speaker 4: the knees. Go home, Michael, go home.

1074
00:54:04,760 --> 00:54:06,360
Speaker 1: Yeah. I'm just want to say, the pear of pressure

1075
00:54:06,520 --> 00:54:10,000
Speaker 1: was so fucking strong where I questioned. I was like, yo,

1076
00:54:10,280 --> 00:54:13,239
Speaker 1: was Michael always like this? Like when he lived in Phoenix?

1077
00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:16,200
Speaker 1: Was he this impressionable? I was like, what the hell, dude.

1078
00:54:16,239 --> 00:54:18,319
Speaker 1: I'm like, you're a good looking dude. You don't need

1079
00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:19,640
Speaker 1: to be this much of a follower.

1080
00:54:19,719 --> 00:54:20,480
Speaker 2: I know these.

1081
00:54:20,239 --> 00:54:25,160
Speaker 1: Guys are technically vampires and are technically putting their vampire

1082
00:54:25,280 --> 00:54:28,000
Speaker 1: seduction on your ass, but honestly.

1083
00:54:28,280 --> 00:54:31,920
Speaker 2: Don't drive over a cliff for these guys you just met.

1084
00:54:32,320 --> 00:54:32,799
Speaker 3: Thank you.

1085
00:54:32,920 --> 00:54:35,680
Speaker 4: Also, you just got to town to day. You're gonna

1086
00:54:35,680 --> 00:54:39,640
Speaker 4: see this woman again. Calm down, it's the boardwalk. She's

1087
00:54:39,680 --> 00:54:40,560
Speaker 4: gonna show up.

1088
00:54:41,160 --> 00:54:41,680
Speaker 2: Calm down.

1089
00:54:41,760 --> 00:54:43,440
Speaker 4: If you have to go every day and wait for her,

1090
00:54:43,440 --> 00:54:44,880
Speaker 4: you're gonna see this lady again.

1091
00:54:44,960 --> 00:54:47,040
Speaker 2: I mean, it's like the Minuti sawers, like, where's the

1092
00:54:47,120 --> 00:54:50,000
Speaker 2: leather jacket? Guy, I gotta find the jacket.

1093
00:54:50,920 --> 00:54:54,279
Speaker 1: I gotta be these people this fucking like they and

1094
00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:57,040
Speaker 1: besides the fact that it's not even the right jacket,

1095
00:54:57,160 --> 00:54:59,879
Speaker 1: it's like they're all aware and their fucking like sarg

1096
00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:06,960
Speaker 1: Pepper's lonely blood sucker fucking jackets and he's just wearing.

1097
00:55:06,719 --> 00:55:07,560
Speaker 2: Like a motorcycle.

1098
00:55:07,560 --> 00:55:10,640
Speaker 1: I'm like, yo, at least get you a revolutionary war

1099
00:55:10,760 --> 00:55:11,560
Speaker 1: jacket like that.

1100
00:55:11,640 --> 00:55:12,359
Speaker 2: They would like.

1101
00:55:12,360 --> 00:55:13,600
Speaker 3: You fit the theme.

1102
00:55:13,960 --> 00:55:18,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, yes, fucking get some beads to jazz that shit up.

1103
00:55:18,840 --> 00:55:21,279
Speaker 4: Get some old pins. Go to the comic shop and

1104
00:55:21,320 --> 00:55:23,680
Speaker 4: get some fucking pins. Because this is also very cute

1105
00:55:23,719 --> 00:55:27,759
Speaker 4: and hilarious while Michael's being peer pressured into almost ending

1106
00:55:27,800 --> 00:55:32,640
Speaker 4: his life. Sam is in the comic book shop kind

1107
00:55:32,680 --> 00:55:33,400
Speaker 4: of making.

1108
00:55:33,160 --> 00:55:34,920
Speaker 3: New friends with the Frog brothers.

1109
00:55:35,040 --> 00:55:38,880
Speaker 4: So the Frog Brothers are played by Corey Feldman who's Edgar,

1110
00:55:39,280 --> 00:55:43,240
Speaker 4: and his brother Alan, who's played by Jamison Newlander Edgar

1111
00:55:43,360 --> 00:55:44,120
Speaker 4: Allan Frog.

1112
00:55:44,320 --> 00:55:45,200
Speaker 3: Oh, I love it.

1113
00:55:47,680 --> 00:55:49,360
Speaker 2: Who people's parents.

1114
00:55:51,120 --> 00:55:55,279
Speaker 4: Their parents are fucking legendary because if you go into

1115
00:55:55,360 --> 00:55:58,120
Speaker 4: that comic book shop and you see two adults constantly

1116
00:55:58,160 --> 00:56:01,600
Speaker 4: asleep behind the register, that their parents, which I never

1117
00:56:01,640 --> 00:56:03,000
Speaker 4: picked up on any time I've.

1118
00:56:02,840 --> 00:56:06,200
Speaker 2: Seen this movie. So they're basically like these two kids.

1119
00:56:06,040 --> 00:56:09,839
Speaker 4: Running this comic book shop on their own because their

1120
00:56:09,880 --> 00:56:12,360
Speaker 4: parents are just like asleep in the corner.

1121
00:56:12,520 --> 00:56:13,680
Speaker 2: Talk about not being able to.

1122
00:56:13,640 --> 00:56:14,720
Speaker 3: Be out past eight pm.

1123
00:56:14,880 --> 00:56:17,439
Speaker 4: No shit, your comic book shop has no business being

1124
00:56:17,480 --> 00:56:21,200
Speaker 4: open on a boardwalk at eight pm. If you're over forty,

1125
00:56:21,400 --> 00:56:25,239
Speaker 4: hire a teen, if you suffer from marcolepsy, do not

1126
00:56:25,320 --> 00:56:27,320
Speaker 4: own a video store, and do not let your fourteen

1127
00:56:27,360 --> 00:56:29,680
Speaker 4: year old son run it or whatever however old he.

1128
00:56:29,680 --> 00:56:32,120
Speaker 2: Was, because he will dress like Rambo First Blood.

1129
00:56:32,280 --> 00:56:34,799
Speaker 3: He's going to run it into the ground, and he does.

1130
00:56:34,960 --> 00:56:38,840
Speaker 4: Corey Corey Feldman dresses like Rambo first blood for no reason.

1131
00:56:39,280 --> 00:56:42,560
Speaker 4: His brother tries to do a very intimidating like Stephen

1132
00:56:42,640 --> 00:56:46,759
Speaker 4: Bauer and gleaming the cube yes, kind of like silent backup,

1133
00:56:47,200 --> 00:56:47,920
Speaker 4: like I'll fuck.

1134
00:56:47,719 --> 00:56:48,160
Speaker 3: You up, guy.

1135
00:56:48,200 --> 00:56:50,920
Speaker 4: But they're just their kids, their actual kids. Corey Feldman

1136
00:56:51,040 --> 00:56:53,840
Speaker 4: is doing a disturbing deep for some reason. He lowers

1137
00:56:53,880 --> 00:56:58,000
Speaker 4: his voice intentionally. It is so distracting because then you've

1138
00:56:58,040 --> 00:57:00,760
Speaker 4: got Corey Haym and he's like Mickey Mouse, Hey.

1139
00:57:00,600 --> 00:57:02,520
Speaker 2: We're the same age, and I still sound like this.

1140
00:57:02,600 --> 00:57:05,879
Speaker 4: And Corey Hume's like, I'm fucking one of the Edgar

1141
00:57:05,920 --> 00:57:08,840
Speaker 4: Allen Frog Brothers and this is how I talk like.

1142
00:57:08,880 --> 00:57:11,719
Speaker 2: That was a decision somewhere along the line.

1143
00:57:11,760 --> 00:57:13,680
Speaker 4: I don't know if he made that decision, but somebody

1144
00:57:13,680 --> 00:57:16,400
Speaker 4: made that decision. So the Frog Brothers are like, look,

1145
00:57:16,440 --> 00:57:18,520
Speaker 4: we're born and raised here. We're gonna tell you like

1146
00:57:18,560 --> 00:57:21,480
Speaker 4: it is. This town is full of vampires. Defend yourself.

1147
00:57:21,840 --> 00:57:25,560
Speaker 4: And Sam is just like, okay, weirdos and he bounces,

1148
00:57:25,560 --> 00:57:28,480
Speaker 4: but they bond because Sam also likes comic books, so

1149
00:57:28,520 --> 00:57:32,120
Speaker 4: he's made two friends in this town. Meanwhile, Michael's out

1150
00:57:32,160 --> 00:57:35,680
Speaker 4: making friends by being peer pressured into drinking David's blood.

1151
00:57:38,320 --> 00:57:42,360
Speaker 1: Okay, this is the Mother's vampire layers.

1152
00:57:42,520 --> 00:57:43,400
Speaker 3: Talk about this.

1153
00:57:43,720 --> 00:57:46,080
Speaker 4: I have like a full page of notes about this

1154
00:57:46,160 --> 00:57:49,280
Speaker 4: layer alone. First of all, nothing good is happening in

1155
00:57:49,320 --> 00:57:50,800
Speaker 4: a sunken resort.

1156
00:57:52,360 --> 00:57:54,120
Speaker 3: But more importantly, there's this.

1157
00:57:54,080 --> 00:57:58,040
Speaker 4: Little fucking kid that hangs out with them, and nothing

1158
00:57:58,120 --> 00:58:01,600
Speaker 4: good is happening. If you belong to a gang of

1159
00:58:01,680 --> 00:58:04,600
Speaker 4: people where there's a little kid hanging out with you

1160
00:58:04,760 --> 00:58:07,880
Speaker 4: after eleven pm. If you're a sibling and you brought

1161
00:58:07,880 --> 00:58:10,360
Speaker 4: your little sibling along because you have to babysit them,

1162
00:58:10,600 --> 00:58:11,920
Speaker 4: then you're being a bad sibling.

1163
00:58:12,200 --> 00:58:14,600
Speaker 2: If you're a parent, you already know.

1164
00:58:14,600 --> 00:58:16,560
Speaker 3: This kid has a bedtime. Get his ass home.

1165
00:58:16,880 --> 00:58:19,880
Speaker 4: And if you're the leader of a vampire gang, try

1166
00:58:19,920 --> 00:58:22,200
Speaker 4: to be a little more subtle. Don't be dragging this

1167
00:58:22,240 --> 00:58:24,680
Speaker 4: little kid around who's got missing posters up all over

1168
00:58:24,720 --> 00:58:25,160
Speaker 4: the place.

1169
00:58:25,720 --> 00:58:30,360
Speaker 1: This little kid is so weird, like so weird. He's

1170
00:58:30,480 --> 00:58:32,760
Speaker 1: kind of like Chaka from Land of the Loss. He's

1171
00:58:32,760 --> 00:58:36,280
Speaker 1: just just like a little creature that runs around everywhere.

1172
00:58:38,640 --> 00:58:41,000
Speaker 2: And he's also wearing one of these jackets, you know

1173
00:58:41,040 --> 00:58:41,360
Speaker 2: what I mean.

1174
00:58:41,400 --> 00:58:43,760
Speaker 1: I'm just sort of like, how are you getting a

1175
00:58:43,840 --> 00:58:46,280
Speaker 1: child size Russian Revolutionary jacket out here?

1176
00:58:46,320 --> 00:58:50,920
Speaker 2: In these fucking boardwalk streets. Again, be more subtle.

1177
00:58:51,080 --> 00:58:56,720
Speaker 4: You can't dress up a missing kid like fucking Rasputan.

1178
00:58:58,320 --> 00:58:59,360
Speaker 2: On these streets.

1179
00:59:01,120 --> 00:59:04,120
Speaker 1: Oh my god, this little kid. Every time, every time

1180
00:59:04,120 --> 00:59:08,640
Speaker 1: it comes on, the scream, I scream with laughter.

1181
00:59:09,760 --> 00:59:12,240
Speaker 2: He's so weird, He's so weird.

1182
00:59:12,360 --> 00:59:15,120
Speaker 4: So's nothing good is happening in this layer. This layer

1183
00:59:15,440 --> 00:59:17,200
Speaker 4: has a big Jim Morrison poster.

1184
00:59:17,360 --> 00:59:17,960
Speaker 2: Ups.

1185
00:59:18,440 --> 00:59:21,320
Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god, of course these vampires

1186
00:59:21,440 --> 00:59:22,760
Speaker 1: love Jim Morrison.

1187
00:59:23,640 --> 00:59:26,480
Speaker 4: Of course they're like, we are also possessed with spirits

1188
00:59:26,920 --> 00:59:31,840
Speaker 4: from a car crash we saw in the desert, Like,

1189
00:59:31,920 --> 00:59:35,280
Speaker 4: of course that's someone that you fucking venerates in your

1190
00:59:35,600 --> 00:59:40,360
Speaker 4: sunken resort layer. Basically, basically, I mean I look, I

1191
00:59:40,360 --> 00:59:42,520
Speaker 4: look through my notes even before we recorded, and my

1192
00:59:42,680 --> 00:59:47,560
Speaker 4: basic thought is I've never seen a movie with vampires

1193
00:59:47,560 --> 00:59:51,760
Speaker 4: who have so little taste. Yes, they just have bad taste.

1194
00:59:53,720 --> 00:59:57,120
Speaker 4: They look ragged, they got bad. They're choosing the wrong

1195
00:59:57,200 --> 01:00:02,560
Speaker 4: eras to dress in in order to enhance their appeal. Yes, Like,

1196
01:00:02,640 --> 01:00:04,840
Speaker 4: you won't have to, David, you won't have to mine

1197
01:00:04,880 --> 01:00:07,400
Speaker 4: mild me into thinking I'm eating worms and maggots.

1198
01:00:07,720 --> 01:00:12,200
Speaker 1: If you just brush a tooth. Oh god, just brush

1199
01:00:12,200 --> 01:00:16,440
Speaker 1: a tooth. Yeah, that that maggot.

1200
01:00:16,000 --> 01:00:20,280
Speaker 2: Worms thing used to freak.

1201
01:00:20,200 --> 01:00:22,800
Speaker 1: Me the fuck out when I was a kid. Completely,

1202
01:00:22,960 --> 01:00:23,320
Speaker 1: Oh my.

1203
01:00:23,280 --> 01:00:26,040
Speaker 4: God, Oh I hate I still can't stand that. It

1204
01:00:26,040 --> 01:00:28,919
Speaker 4: makes my skin crawl. But this is, this is really

1205
01:00:28,920 --> 01:00:30,800
Speaker 4: what I want to talk about in this layer scene,

1206
01:00:31,360 --> 01:00:37,160
Speaker 4: So Michael becomes a vampire by drinking David's blood. They

1207
01:00:37,160 --> 01:00:41,560
Speaker 4: give him this like real bejeweled like pewter vase, kind

1208
01:00:41,560 --> 01:00:42,880
Speaker 4: of like you know those stores that still like the

1209
01:00:42,920 --> 01:00:46,640
Speaker 4: Pewter wizard holding the crystal ball like it looks like that,

1210
01:00:46,840 --> 01:00:49,560
Speaker 4: except it's got wine in it. So he drinks it

1211
01:00:49,680 --> 01:00:51,920
Speaker 4: not knowing what it is, and they're all chanting Michael

1212
01:00:51,960 --> 01:00:56,280
Speaker 4: because that's half the script, and then he's a vampire.

1213
01:00:56,720 --> 01:01:02,000
Speaker 4: I do not approve of changing the vamp empire mythology

1214
01:01:02,360 --> 01:01:04,840
Speaker 4: in this way. Yes, because what we learned later on

1215
01:01:04,960 --> 01:01:08,840
Speaker 4: from Star is that he's only a half vampire, just

1216
01:01:08,960 --> 01:01:11,280
Speaker 4: like her and just like that creepy ass little fucking

1217
01:01:11,360 --> 01:01:14,880
Speaker 4: rescute and kid because they haven't made their first kill yet.

1218
01:01:15,040 --> 01:01:17,520
Speaker 4: I don't approve of this mythology changing. You get bit

1219
01:01:17,600 --> 01:01:20,080
Speaker 4: by a vampire, then you're a vampire, and.

1220
01:01:20,360 --> 01:01:24,320
Speaker 1: Of let's just figure out a way where these people

1221
01:01:24,640 --> 01:01:29,040
Speaker 1: don't become full vampires like the kid, the protagonist and

1222
01:01:29,120 --> 01:01:32,479
Speaker 1: the protagonist's girlfriend. We can't make him full vampires because

1223
01:01:32,520 --> 01:01:34,440
Speaker 1: then we'd have to kill them, and we don't want

1224
01:01:34,480 --> 01:01:37,120
Speaker 1: to kill these people. But we can kill these sarch

1225
01:01:37,280 --> 01:01:41,640
Speaker 1: Pepper guys all day exactly, so we can stake them

1226
01:01:41,720 --> 01:01:42,120
Speaker 1: for sure.

1227
01:01:42,160 --> 01:01:45,040
Speaker 4: But we got to keep this love story going.

1228
01:01:45,160 --> 01:01:48,040
Speaker 3: We gotta return this kid. Yeah we had just half

1229
01:01:48,200 --> 01:01:48,800
Speaker 3: half vamp.

1230
01:01:48,880 --> 01:01:50,920
Speaker 4: Then we gotta return this kid to his fucking parents

1231
01:01:51,000 --> 01:01:55,480
Speaker 4: looking like a feral squirrel after he's been half vampire for.

1232
01:01:55,360 --> 01:01:56,240
Speaker 2: Like a half a year.

1233
01:01:57,160 --> 01:01:58,320
Speaker 3: You can't just go back to.

1234
01:01:58,320 --> 01:01:59,560
Speaker 2: Fifth grade after this shit.

1235
01:01:59,600 --> 01:02:02,200
Speaker 3: I concerned about this child in this movie for some reason.

1236
01:02:02,480 --> 01:02:06,680
Speaker 4: On this viewing, he became more empirically confusing to me

1237
01:02:06,720 --> 01:02:07,560
Speaker 4: than ever before.

1238
01:02:08,960 --> 01:02:12,840
Speaker 3: But they are half vampires and it's just a bad decision.

1239
01:02:12,840 --> 01:02:15,520
Speaker 4: And plus being a half vampire here's the thing that

1240
01:02:16,120 --> 01:02:18,479
Speaker 4: also gets me. So he goes, Michael goes back home.

1241
01:02:19,040 --> 01:02:22,200
Speaker 4: Sam eventually figures out that he's a vampire. But all

1242
01:02:22,280 --> 01:02:25,720
Speaker 4: being a half vampire does is it gives you a

1243
01:02:25,760 --> 01:02:29,480
Speaker 4: shitty earring and a bad attitude. You don't have any

1244
01:02:29,520 --> 01:02:31,960
Speaker 4: of the powers, like, you can't do it. You can't

1245
01:02:32,000 --> 01:02:35,840
Speaker 4: mind meld people. You're just like hungry for blood and

1246
01:02:35,880 --> 01:02:37,960
Speaker 4: you're just kind of an asshole to people now, Like

1247
01:02:37,960 --> 01:02:39,800
Speaker 4: you just had a bad attitude.

1248
01:02:39,320 --> 01:02:41,440
Speaker 2: And an earring and that was the change to be

1249
01:02:41,480 --> 01:02:42,240
Speaker 2: in a half vamp.

1250
01:02:42,400 --> 01:02:44,800
Speaker 3: Give me a full vamp who can do some shit.

1251
01:02:45,040 --> 01:02:46,640
Speaker 4: I mean, if you have even a little bit of

1252
01:02:46,720 --> 01:02:48,640
Speaker 4: vamp in you, don't you immediately go to David and

1253
01:02:48,640 --> 01:02:51,040
Speaker 4: you're like, yo, I feel sick. I'm craving blood. Can

1254
01:02:51,080 --> 01:02:52,680
Speaker 4: you just make me a full vampire so I can

1255
01:02:52,720 --> 01:02:53,160
Speaker 4: get in them?

1256
01:02:53,200 --> 01:02:53,959
Speaker 3: Because this is a.

1257
01:02:53,920 --> 01:02:58,480
Speaker 2: Horrible limbo to be in. It's like what I was.

1258
01:02:58,840 --> 01:03:00,920
Speaker 4: I was way too old when I realized, like I

1259
01:03:01,000 --> 01:03:04,040
Speaker 4: used to never buy like tampons and maxipads where they

1260
01:03:04,040 --> 01:03:05,440
Speaker 4: were on sale, and I'm like, I'll just buy like

1261
01:03:05,520 --> 01:03:08,480
Speaker 4: my usual one, my one bag by one box. And

1262
01:03:08,480 --> 01:03:10,960
Speaker 4: then my friend was like, you're not gonna stop getting

1263
01:03:11,000 --> 01:03:12,960
Speaker 4: your period for like twenty fucking years.

1264
01:03:13,240 --> 01:03:15,520
Speaker 2: Like, buy the extra, it's on sales, buy.

1265
01:03:15,400 --> 01:03:17,920
Speaker 4: One, get one free. Turn me into a full vampire.

1266
01:03:17,960 --> 01:03:21,400
Speaker 4: Give me the rest of that jugga blood. Let me

1267
01:03:21,480 --> 01:03:23,760
Speaker 4: drink that jug of blood, Bite me on the fucking neck,

1268
01:03:23,800 --> 01:03:24,800
Speaker 4: do whatever you gotta do.

1269
01:03:24,920 --> 01:03:25,640
Speaker 3: But I don't want to.

1270
01:03:25,600 --> 01:03:29,400
Speaker 4: Live in this half zone, right, But no, He's like,

1271
01:03:29,600 --> 01:03:31,920
Speaker 4: I'm content to just like float up to the ceiling

1272
01:03:31,920 --> 01:03:35,160
Speaker 4: and smash my face and be a dick to my mom. Yeah,

1273
01:03:36,120 --> 01:03:43,200
Speaker 4: Michael Michael peer pressures outside your window, Michael Michael Michael.

1274
01:03:43,680 --> 01:03:44,400
Speaker 3: Oh my goodness.

1275
01:03:44,520 --> 01:03:47,120
Speaker 4: So the other key figure in this movie we gotta

1276
01:03:47,160 --> 01:03:50,720
Speaker 4: talk about is Grandpa. Oh lord, because Grandpa is on one.

1277
01:03:50,760 --> 01:03:53,640
Speaker 4: First of all, he's an amateur taxidermist, which I love.

1278
01:03:54,040 --> 01:03:57,360
Speaker 4: I love that, Yeah, and he shows his love through taxidermy,

1279
01:03:57,480 --> 01:04:01,160
Speaker 4: like by gifting Sam things that he does not want

1280
01:04:01,240 --> 01:04:04,880
Speaker 4: every morning when he wakes up. Grandpa has a shelf

1281
01:04:04,960 --> 01:04:07,120
Speaker 4: in the fridge that is labeled old Fart.

1282
01:04:07,160 --> 01:04:09,200
Speaker 3: It's where he keeps his root beer and nobody else

1283
01:04:09,320 --> 01:04:10,160
Speaker 3: is allowed to use it.

1284
01:04:10,600 --> 01:04:14,360
Speaker 4: He wears a bandana like you know, he's Willie Nelson

1285
01:04:14,400 --> 01:04:18,040
Speaker 4: going on tour any minute now. And Grandpa is a

1286
01:04:18,080 --> 01:04:21,720
Speaker 4: little bit wild in this movie. But he has the

1287
01:04:21,760 --> 01:04:24,360
Speaker 4: best line in the movie, which is the last tie.

1288
01:04:24,400 --> 01:04:25,480
Speaker 2: Oh my god, totally.

1289
01:04:25,720 --> 01:04:28,920
Speaker 4: So I appreciate Grandpa a lot. Yeah, But basically what

1290
01:04:28,920 --> 01:04:31,280
Speaker 4: we're dealing with is a mom who's trying to go

1291
01:04:31,320 --> 01:04:34,280
Speaker 4: on a date with Ed herman rest in Peace King

1292
01:04:34,560 --> 01:04:39,520
Speaker 4: with Max, her boss and the boss, and it keeps

1293
01:04:39,520 --> 01:04:42,160
Speaker 4: getting fucked up because they're like, you know the kids,

1294
01:04:42,200 --> 01:04:44,880
Speaker 4: you know, Sam and the Frog brothers are like, we

1295
01:04:44,960 --> 01:04:47,320
Speaker 4: need to figure out if this guy's a vampire. Everyone

1296
01:04:47,360 --> 01:04:49,600
Speaker 4: seems to be a vampire. Let's just figure this shit out.

1297
01:04:49,800 --> 01:04:52,960
Speaker 4: They try these tests, doesn't work, He's not the vamp

1298
01:04:53,040 --> 01:04:55,040
Speaker 4: they need. They figure out that you have to kill

1299
01:04:55,080 --> 01:04:58,320
Speaker 4: the main vamp to turn everyone back into normal humans. Again,

1300
01:04:58,480 --> 01:05:01,360
Speaker 4: don't agree with this mythology, chain, don't agree with this,

1301
01:05:01,560 --> 01:05:03,800
Speaker 4: That's not how it works. But they're trying to figure

1302
01:05:03,800 --> 01:05:06,640
Speaker 4: this shit out. So this whole movie revolves around the

1303
01:05:06,720 --> 01:05:09,640
Speaker 4: video store because Mom's trying to date Max.

1304
01:05:09,680 --> 01:05:11,200
Speaker 3: And you know what, I think I'm gonna spoil this movie?

1305
01:05:11,280 --> 01:05:11,960
Speaker 3: Should us do it?

1306
01:05:12,160 --> 01:05:17,880
Speaker 2: Listen? This movie is so old and so ridiculous.

1307
01:05:18,360 --> 01:05:21,960
Speaker 4: If you don't want to know what's gonna happen coming up,

1308
01:05:22,560 --> 01:05:25,600
Speaker 4: just use that thirty second fast forward button until you

1309
01:05:25,600 --> 01:05:29,720
Speaker 4: feel safe, until you hear Millie's voice again. Yes, because

1310
01:05:29,840 --> 01:05:33,640
Speaker 4: essentially they kill David, the kids succeed, They do their

1311
01:05:33,680 --> 01:05:36,120
Speaker 4: whole We got a whole montage of like the garlic

1312
01:05:36,240 --> 01:05:39,200
Speaker 4: bath and the Holy Water and all that shit. And

1313
01:05:39,200 --> 01:05:43,480
Speaker 4: them steaking people. They killed David thinking he's the leader,

1314
01:05:43,960 --> 01:05:46,919
Speaker 4: so now everyone's going to turn back, but it doesn't work.

1315
01:05:47,000 --> 01:05:50,640
Speaker 4: Michael's still a vamp. And then they realize when Max

1316
01:05:50,680 --> 01:05:54,560
Speaker 4: comes over with his mom, it's Max who is the

1317
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Speaker 4: main vam.

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01:05:55,360 --> 01:05:56,959
Speaker 2: Ultimately, he's a twist.

1319
01:05:57,240 --> 01:06:01,240
Speaker 4: Ultimate Twist. Fuck Boy Nation is on flour display. I'm

1320
01:06:01,240 --> 01:06:03,240
Speaker 4: only dating you to turn you into a mother for

1321
01:06:03,360 --> 01:06:07,800
Speaker 4: my vampire children because I saw your sweetness in front

1322
01:06:07,840 --> 01:06:12,240
Speaker 4: of my video store. Ultimate Vampire Nation, fuck Boy Nation.

1323
01:06:12,840 --> 01:06:16,400
Speaker 4: This is where they meet. So because Max is the

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01:06:16,440 --> 01:06:19,400
Speaker 4: main guy, Grandpa then has to kind of step in

1325
01:06:19,440 --> 01:06:22,840
Speaker 4: and kill him. Like there's this whole big I don't

1326
01:06:22,880 --> 01:06:25,800
Speaker 4: remeruin that part. There is a whole big ending. But

1327
01:06:25,880 --> 01:06:29,160
Speaker 4: Max dies, and then Michael becomes Michael again, and the

1328
01:06:29,200 --> 01:06:31,960
Speaker 4: little kid becomes a little kid again, and Star, I

1329
01:06:31,960 --> 01:06:34,720
Speaker 4: don't know, Star just like spins a few times into

1330
01:06:34,800 --> 01:06:38,640
Speaker 4: the atmosphere and turns into dust.

1331
01:06:39,240 --> 01:06:39,840
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1332
01:06:40,000 --> 01:06:41,960
Speaker 4: I don't know what could possibly happen to these people

1333
01:06:41,960 --> 01:06:44,680
Speaker 4: after this, but it is. It is a video store

1334
01:06:44,680 --> 01:06:48,960
Speaker 4: eccentric movie because the video store owner and the video

1335
01:06:49,000 --> 01:06:51,600
Speaker 4: store where the mom works that allows these children.

1336
01:06:51,360 --> 01:06:54,280
Speaker 3: To be out in these streets like this. It's crucial

1337
01:06:54,320 --> 01:06:54,880
Speaker 3: to the plot.

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01:06:54,960 --> 01:06:59,320
Speaker 1: I mean, listen, we set up the beginning that this

1339
01:06:59,440 --> 01:07:04,880
Speaker 1: movie is fun as fuck, but it's dumb, and this

1340
01:07:05,080 --> 01:07:08,200
Speaker 1: part is what makes it dumb for me, is the

1341
01:07:08,280 --> 01:07:14,760
Speaker 1: Scooby Doo moment of Max being the ultimate Mattie like

1342
01:07:15,000 --> 01:07:20,320
Speaker 1: Max thing is the fucking final boss exactly, and the

1343
01:07:20,520 --> 01:07:22,280
Speaker 1: entire time you think it's gonna be key Forer, but

1344
01:07:22,320 --> 01:07:23,560
Speaker 1: it's not, it's Max.

1345
01:07:24,000 --> 01:07:26,120
Speaker 3: Imagine just imagine this movie.

1346
01:07:26,120 --> 01:07:29,840
Speaker 4: Because Corey Hame has an incredible line in this film.

1347
01:07:29,880 --> 01:07:31,880
Speaker 4: Also that I kind of wish he was able to

1348
01:07:32,000 --> 01:07:35,280
Speaker 4: level at Max in some way at some point.

1349
01:07:35,680 --> 01:07:37,160
Speaker 3: So Corey Hame's very upset.

1350
01:07:37,200 --> 01:07:39,160
Speaker 4: He just found out that Michael is a vampire and

1351
01:07:39,200 --> 01:07:42,040
Speaker 4: he's stomping up the steps and he says, my own

1352
01:07:42,120 --> 01:07:47,040
Speaker 4: brother a goddamn shit sucking vampire. Just imagine saying that

1353
01:07:47,080 --> 01:07:50,480
Speaker 4: to a step parent in your tween rage.

1354
01:07:51,040 --> 01:07:54,040
Speaker 1: Well, and also, what are your thoughts on there being

1355
01:07:54,640 --> 01:07:56,640
Speaker 1: sort of a runner in the film, which is that

1356
01:07:56,680 --> 01:08:02,120
Speaker 1: they play cry little Sister oh every time some vampire

1357
01:08:02,160 --> 01:08:02,880
Speaker 1: shit happens.

1358
01:08:03,400 --> 01:08:05,479
Speaker 4: I mean, if you again, this is where I feel

1359
01:08:05,480 --> 01:08:09,240
Speaker 4: like these vampires have bad taste. If you had your

1360
01:08:09,400 --> 01:08:12,280
Speaker 4: chance to pick your vampire walk up music?

1361
01:08:13,760 --> 01:08:15,680
Speaker 2: Are you choosing, cry little sister.

1362
01:08:15,800 --> 01:08:18,439
Speaker 4: Are you like gonna choose some fucking rock mononof or

1363
01:08:18,479 --> 01:08:19,719
Speaker 4: some diabolical shit.

1364
01:08:21,080 --> 01:08:24,080
Speaker 3: You're not gonna have some creepy little kid like shit.

1365
01:08:25,520 --> 01:08:26,840
Speaker 2: Give me like dun.

1366
01:08:28,280 --> 01:08:30,519
Speaker 4: Like, give me a guitar, give me sax, guy, give

1367
01:08:30,560 --> 01:08:33,879
Speaker 4: me something. Your walk up music as a vampire cannot

1368
01:08:33,880 --> 01:08:36,880
Speaker 4: be the lilting voice of a creepy little kid.

1369
01:08:37,040 --> 01:08:40,760
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I just this is the moment where

1370
01:08:40,760 --> 01:08:44,080
Speaker 1: I really thought this movie was just so over the top,

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01:08:44,160 --> 01:08:48,080
Speaker 1: Like I was, just like, I mean, I mean, yeah,

1372
01:08:48,160 --> 01:08:50,040
Speaker 1: I mean, it's a lot this movie is.

1373
01:08:50,560 --> 01:08:54,519
Speaker 2: I mean, it is so extra in so many ways.

1374
01:08:54,560 --> 01:08:57,600
Speaker 1: But just this idea that that song kicks in anytime

1375
01:08:58,160 --> 01:09:01,639
Speaker 1: Jason Patrick is faced with some sort of vampire thing.

1376
01:09:02,040 --> 01:09:05,920
Speaker 2: And it's just so goth and ridiculous.

1377
01:09:06,000 --> 01:09:10,160
Speaker 1: Like I mean, honestly, The Lost Boys as a film

1378
01:09:10,200 --> 01:09:13,519
Speaker 1: is probably one of the most goth fucking movies ever,

1379
01:09:14,200 --> 01:09:18,120
Speaker 1: beloved by goth nights all over the world. Yes, and

1380
01:09:18,720 --> 01:09:22,240
Speaker 1: for that reason alone. It makes it fun. It's a

1381
01:09:22,439 --> 01:09:28,439
Speaker 1: fun movie completely that has the worst ending ever and

1382
01:09:29,960 --> 01:09:33,960
Speaker 1: the worst vampire turns ever, the worst vampire turns. No

1383
01:09:34,000 --> 01:09:38,720
Speaker 1: One speaks about the fact that they fucking trashed this

1384
01:09:38,800 --> 01:09:44,519
Speaker 1: grandpa's house, like the entire house has been decimated by

1385
01:09:44,560 --> 01:09:46,000
Speaker 1: the time this film is over.

1386
01:09:47,040 --> 01:09:49,080
Speaker 4: This is a man who does not want you to

1387
01:09:49,120 --> 01:09:51,479
Speaker 4: take a single root beer off of his shelf in

1388
01:09:51,520 --> 01:09:54,599
Speaker 4: the fridge, but he's gonna drive his own truck through

1389
01:09:54,640 --> 01:10:02,120
Speaker 4: his house at the end of it. That is this

1390
01:10:02,160 --> 01:10:05,080
Speaker 4: is where we mind meld all over the place, because

1391
01:10:05,120 --> 01:10:08,320
Speaker 4: whenever I see a movie where someplace has been trashed,

1392
01:10:08,439 --> 01:10:10,320
Speaker 4: my first thought is, who's gonna fucking clean that?

1393
01:10:10,439 --> 01:10:11,559
Speaker 2: Exactly?

1394
01:10:11,600 --> 01:10:14,559
Speaker 4: I cannot suspend disbelief in a messy scene in a movie.

1395
01:10:14,600 --> 01:10:17,759
Speaker 4: Oh my god, like gummo makes my skin crawl.

1396
01:10:18,160 --> 01:10:20,439
Speaker 1: Oh completely, that's a movie we got to talk about

1397
01:10:20,439 --> 01:10:21,120
Speaker 1: on this podcast.

1398
01:10:21,160 --> 01:10:22,559
Speaker 3: Oh for sure, yes we do.

1399
01:10:23,120 --> 01:10:25,800
Speaker 4: But yeah, this is like cry little sister, I feel. Okay,

1400
01:10:25,800 --> 01:10:27,120
Speaker 4: what's what's your vampire?

1401
01:10:27,160 --> 01:10:27,559
Speaker 2: Walk up?

1402
01:10:27,560 --> 01:10:29,639
Speaker 3: Moved music? And it better be Garth Brooks.

1403
01:10:30,400 --> 01:10:34,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's me on Moon by Brooks and Dunn.

1404
01:10:35,600 --> 01:10:38,120
Speaker 4: The late fees cost more than the rental, because you

1405
01:10:38,160 --> 01:10:40,479
Speaker 4: should not have to become a vampire to fit in

1406
01:10:40,479 --> 01:10:41,519
Speaker 4: in your new beach town.

1407
01:10:42,439 --> 01:10:44,759
Speaker 1: And the guy that runs the video store is literally

1408
01:10:45,360 --> 01:10:46,960
Speaker 1: the most evil person to ever live.

1409
01:10:47,320 --> 01:10:50,480
Speaker 4: So, like I said, it's got too much power.

1410
01:10:49,560 --> 01:10:49,680
Speaker 2: Oh.

1411
01:10:50,800 --> 01:10:54,000
Speaker 1: I just have to thank you once again for picking

1412
01:10:54,040 --> 01:10:58,559
Speaker 1: this movie forcing me to watch it in a current

1413
01:10:59,200 --> 01:11:02,519
Speaker 1: phase of my life, because honestly, I just it was

1414
01:11:02,600 --> 01:11:06,479
Speaker 1: just a totally different experience, super fun movie to watch.

1415
01:11:07,120 --> 01:11:09,280
Speaker 1: Makes not a look of sense at the end of

1416
01:11:09,280 --> 01:11:11,719
Speaker 1: the day, but you know what, it's It's totally fine.

1417
01:11:12,000 --> 01:11:12,639
Speaker 3: It's so great.

1418
01:11:12,680 --> 01:11:14,760
Speaker 4: And I did not realize I was going to be

1419
01:11:14,840 --> 01:11:15,960
Speaker 4: this hyper about this movie.

1420
01:11:16,040 --> 01:11:16,559
Speaker 3: We were talking.

1421
01:11:16,600 --> 01:11:18,840
Speaker 4: I feel so hyper right, Dune, It's like I'm drinking

1422
01:11:18,840 --> 01:11:20,880
Speaker 4: a Dia coke and talking about the Lost Boys.

1423
01:11:21,240 --> 01:11:23,200
Speaker 3: My heart rate has never been higher.

1424
01:11:23,560 --> 01:11:27,080
Speaker 1: Well, let me just tell you the tone is now

1425
01:11:27,120 --> 01:11:28,400
Speaker 1: going to shift a little bit.

1426
01:11:29,200 --> 01:11:31,240
Speaker 2: Yes, bring it down before a collapse.

1427
01:11:33,880 --> 01:11:37,960
Speaker 1: We have a second movie about a video store, way

1428
01:11:38,040 --> 01:11:41,200
Speaker 1: less high key than what we just talked about, but

1429
01:11:41,479 --> 01:11:44,000
Speaker 1: ultimately a great movie.

1430
01:11:44,080 --> 01:11:45,360
Speaker 2: It's a great film.

1431
01:11:45,800 --> 01:11:46,880
Speaker 3: Yes, all right.

1432
01:11:46,920 --> 01:11:50,479
Speaker 1: So my movie for the theme of the late fees

1433
01:11:50,640 --> 01:11:53,839
Speaker 1: costs more than the rental is a movie from nineteen

1434
01:11:53,880 --> 01:11:58,519
Speaker 1: ninety six. It was directed by Cheryl Dunie and it's

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01:11:58,600 --> 01:12:00,000
Speaker 1: called The Watermelon Woman.

1436
01:12:01,080 --> 01:12:02,200
Speaker 3: You know, it's two for.

1437
01:12:02,200 --> 01:12:03,320
Speaker 2: One Monday through Thursday.

1438
01:12:03,720 --> 01:12:07,880
Speaker 4: Really, yeah, I'm having a hard time deciding what do

1439
01:12:07,880 --> 01:12:11,479
Speaker 4: you think being Patra Jones Jason's lyric or my personal best?

1440
01:12:12,320 --> 01:12:14,000
Speaker 1: Well, right off the bat, all right, I just want

1441
01:12:14,040 --> 01:12:16,759
Speaker 1: to talk about the director of The Watermelon Woman, Cheryl Dunier.

1442
01:12:17,280 --> 01:12:20,280
Speaker 1: So just to give you a little background, she is

1443
01:12:20,520 --> 01:12:24,080
Speaker 1: of African and African American descent. She was born in Liberia,

1444
01:12:24,120 --> 01:12:28,400
Speaker 1: she was raised in Philadelphia, and she's made a lot

1445
01:12:28,520 --> 01:12:30,559
Speaker 1: of short films and narrative features.

1446
01:12:30,600 --> 01:12:32,320
Speaker 2: She's directed lots of TV.

1447
01:12:33,120 --> 01:12:37,719
Speaker 1: She's acted, produced, she's been an editor, she's written, she's

1448
01:12:37,760 --> 01:12:41,599
Speaker 1: made movies for you know, bigger studios, she's made independent films.

1449
01:12:42,120 --> 01:12:44,280
Speaker 2: She just has an incredible career.

1450
01:12:44,439 --> 01:12:48,960
Speaker 1: And in The Watermelon Woman, the movie has the distinction

1451
01:12:49,400 --> 01:12:53,080
Speaker 1: of being the first feature length film that was made

1452
01:12:53,160 --> 01:12:57,160
Speaker 1: by like an out black lesbian. And you know, we've

1453
01:12:57,200 --> 01:13:00,240
Speaker 1: talked about these pioneers of black cinema before in our

1454
01:13:00,240 --> 01:13:03,439
Speaker 1: older episodes. We've talked about Kathleen Collins and Bill Gunn

1455
01:13:03,520 --> 01:13:07,160
Speaker 1: and Melvin Van Peebles, And in fact, the name of

1456
01:13:07,200 --> 01:13:10,760
Speaker 1: The Watermelon Woman is a take on The Watermelon Man,

1457
01:13:10,800 --> 01:13:13,840
Speaker 1: which is a movie that Melvin Van Peebles made, and

1458
01:13:13,880 --> 01:13:18,200
Speaker 1: we briefly talked about it in episode ten when we

1459
01:13:18,240 --> 01:13:21,559
Speaker 1: talked about Sweet Sweetbacks Badass Song. But in addition to

1460
01:13:21,680 --> 01:13:24,840
Speaker 1: that distinction of this movie being the first feature length

1461
01:13:24,880 --> 01:13:28,760
Speaker 1: film made by a out black lesbian, this film was

1462
01:13:28,800 --> 01:13:32,360
Speaker 1: also kind of part of this movement that was called

1463
01:13:32,400 --> 01:13:35,920
Speaker 1: the New Queer Cinema in the nineties. And there's a

1464
01:13:35,920 --> 01:13:38,360
Speaker 1: film critic named b ruby Rich who kind of came

1465
01:13:38,439 --> 01:13:41,360
Speaker 1: up with the term, and it was basically a way

1466
01:13:41,439 --> 01:13:45,320
Speaker 1: to describe the influx of queer filmmaking that was happening

1467
01:13:45,400 --> 01:13:48,599
Speaker 1: in the nineties. And you know, by and large, these

1468
01:13:48,680 --> 01:13:52,160
Speaker 1: movies were in the spirit of sort of the independent

1469
01:13:52,160 --> 01:13:54,479
Speaker 1: film movement of the nineties, but they were really kind

1470
01:13:54,520 --> 01:13:58,240
Speaker 1: of doing something else. They were experimenting, They were experimenting

1471
01:13:58,280 --> 01:14:02,760
Speaker 1: with and sort of challenging the notions of this like

1472
01:14:03,479 --> 01:14:07,840
Speaker 1: monolithic queer experience, right, And these are movies that were

1473
01:14:07,880 --> 01:14:11,320
Speaker 1: being made by people like Todd Haynes and Derek Jarmon

1474
01:14:11,800 --> 01:14:16,680
Speaker 1: and Greg o'raki, Gus Van Santz, you know, Jenny Livingston

1475
01:14:16,800 --> 01:14:19,559
Speaker 1: who was the director of that documentary Paris Is Burning,

1476
01:14:19,600 --> 01:14:21,679
Speaker 1: which I think we've talked about on this podcast before.

1477
01:14:22,040 --> 01:14:24,120
Speaker 2: And you know, the movies that were produced.

1478
01:14:23,760 --> 01:14:27,200
Speaker 1: By Christine Vashan, who she's a big hero of mind.

1479
01:14:27,240 --> 01:14:30,160
Speaker 1: She brought many great films to people in the nineties,

1480
01:14:30,200 --> 01:14:34,040
Speaker 1: many great independent films, and The Watermelon Woman came along

1481
01:14:34,400 --> 01:14:37,559
Speaker 1: and it was really like the first movie that shined

1482
01:14:37,600 --> 01:14:40,840
Speaker 1: a light on the black lesbian experience, which really wasn't

1483
01:14:40,920 --> 01:14:44,880
Speaker 1: addressed very much before in film, and it, you know,

1484
01:14:44,920 --> 01:14:47,879
Speaker 1: I think it really kind of interrogated a lot about

1485
01:14:48,520 --> 01:14:52,160
Speaker 1: black women in classic Hollywood, black culture in like the

1486
01:14:52,200 --> 01:14:54,599
Speaker 1: early to mid twentieth century, and just sort of those

1487
01:14:54,760 --> 01:15:00,559
Speaker 1: gaps in black historical preservation even in academia. Right, Yes,

1488
01:15:01,160 --> 01:15:05,120
Speaker 1: so I'll give it one sentence synopsis of The Watermelon Woman. So,

1489
01:15:05,320 --> 01:15:11,320
Speaker 1: a black lesbian filmmaker slash videographer slash video store employee

1490
01:15:11,920 --> 01:15:16,400
Speaker 1: who is living in Philadelphia begins a quest to search

1491
01:15:16,520 --> 01:15:21,040
Speaker 1: for a lost black classic Hollywood actor named Fay Richards

1492
01:15:21,439 --> 01:15:24,559
Speaker 1: while also navigating life and love.

1493
01:15:25,479 --> 01:15:26,839
Speaker 3: That's a great one sentence.

1494
01:15:27,280 --> 01:15:29,680
Speaker 2: Thank you so much. I worked on that. I was like,

1495
01:15:29,960 --> 01:15:31,559
Speaker 2: I'm going to write a good one this time.

1496
01:15:31,760 --> 01:15:32,679
Speaker 3: It's really good.

1497
01:15:32,760 --> 01:15:35,240
Speaker 2: I love it, thank you. So, Okay.

1498
01:15:35,400 --> 01:15:39,439
Speaker 1: The Watermelon Woman stars the director Cheryl Dunier. She is

1499
01:15:39,479 --> 01:15:43,160
Speaker 1: a woman named Cheryl. She is the filmmaker that I

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01:15:43,320 --> 01:15:46,200
Speaker 1: just mentioned, and she spends her days working at.

1501
01:15:46,080 --> 01:15:48,920
Speaker 2: A video store in Philadelphia with.

1502
01:15:48,920 --> 01:15:52,439
Speaker 1: Her best friend and business partner, Tamia, who is played

1503
01:15:52,439 --> 01:15:57,160
Speaker 1: by Valerie Walker, who I love me fucking too, love

1504
01:15:57,600 --> 01:16:01,080
Speaker 1: Tamara so much so. The two of them have this

1505
01:16:01,280 --> 01:16:05,479
Speaker 1: like videographer business where they like go shoot videos for

1506
01:16:05,600 --> 01:16:08,200
Speaker 1: weddings and you know, other kind of events and stuff.

1507
01:16:08,520 --> 01:16:11,840
Speaker 1: But they also work together at this video store, which

1508
01:16:11,960 --> 01:16:15,840
Speaker 1: I have to say, this is a video store own

1509
01:16:16,000 --> 01:16:20,599
Speaker 1: by a black man and primarily staffed by lesbians, which

1510
01:16:20,640 --> 01:16:22,920
Speaker 1: is like what a fucking world.

1511
01:16:23,400 --> 01:16:27,400
Speaker 4: Timothy shallow May could never, as my favorite person is

1512
01:16:27,479 --> 01:16:28,320
Speaker 4: fond of saying.

1513
01:16:29,840 --> 01:16:32,559
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm just like, imagine a world where a

1514
01:16:32,560 --> 01:16:35,240
Speaker 1: black man owns a popular video store and it's only

1515
01:16:35,479 --> 01:16:36,560
Speaker 1: staffed by lesbians.

1516
01:16:36,600 --> 01:16:40,400
Speaker 2: This is great, right, yes, so right off the bat.

1517
01:16:40,120 --> 01:16:44,200
Speaker 1: Okay, I was having intense feelings about this video store.

1518
01:16:44,479 --> 01:16:45,000
Speaker 2: Oh same.

1519
01:16:45,160 --> 01:16:47,040
Speaker 3: I don't know what it was, but I cannot wait

1520
01:16:47,080 --> 01:16:47,599
Speaker 3: to hear your phone.

1521
01:16:47,640 --> 01:16:49,920
Speaker 1: My god, it was like, okay, first of all, it

1522
01:16:49,960 --> 01:16:53,599
Speaker 1: was like all vhs right pre DVD.

1523
01:16:54,040 --> 01:16:55,800
Speaker 2: I didn't at least I didn't see a DVD on

1524
01:16:55,840 --> 01:16:56,120
Speaker 2: the wall.

1525
01:16:56,280 --> 01:16:59,160
Speaker 1: I could be wrong, no, but people were renting vhs,

1526
01:16:59,200 --> 01:17:02,559
Speaker 1: which I love. They were taking credit card payments with

1527
01:17:02,680 --> 01:17:07,080
Speaker 1: those old timey carbon receipt machine things.

1528
01:17:07,479 --> 01:17:10,519
Speaker 4: That's the first thing that sent me back, that sent

1529
01:17:10,800 --> 01:17:13,800
Speaker 4: me because I remember using those at my first job.

1530
01:17:14,840 --> 01:17:17,120
Speaker 3: And god forbid, you didn't press down hard enough.

1531
01:17:17,200 --> 01:17:19,280
Speaker 4: Someone is walking out of this toy store with a

1532
01:17:19,439 --> 01:17:21,720
Speaker 4: briar horse that they are not paying for because I

1533
01:17:21,720 --> 01:17:23,320
Speaker 4: don't know the last four did is in your card

1534
01:17:23,439 --> 01:17:25,280
Speaker 4: because I gave up and I didn't press it down

1535
01:17:25,320 --> 01:17:25,880
Speaker 4: hard enough.

1536
01:17:26,280 --> 01:17:26,760
Speaker 6: And do you.

1537
01:17:26,800 --> 01:17:30,120
Speaker 1: Remember I worked in a restaurant where we were we

1538
01:17:30,120 --> 01:17:32,160
Speaker 1: would take in credit card payments with those machines. And

1539
01:17:32,200 --> 01:17:34,679
Speaker 1: I remember the question, always having to ask a question,

1540
01:17:34,720 --> 01:17:36,200
Speaker 1: do I'm going to tear up your carbons?

1541
01:17:36,240 --> 01:17:38,840
Speaker 2: Like it was that thing where like you can either

1542
01:17:38,920 --> 01:17:39,320
Speaker 2: give it.

1543
01:17:39,280 --> 01:17:41,400
Speaker 1: To somebody or you could just tear it up in

1544
01:17:41,400 --> 01:17:43,800
Speaker 1: front of them. And I'm always like, that is a

1545
01:17:43,920 --> 01:17:47,519
Speaker 1: thing that no one ever does anymore, right ever, and

1546
01:17:47,560 --> 01:17:50,800
Speaker 1: north should they, because that was some shit to be

1547
01:17:50,840 --> 01:17:52,519
Speaker 1: Like now I have to go home with the smudged

1548
01:17:52,560 --> 01:17:55,519
Speaker 1: hands and serve food with the smudged hands because you

1549
01:17:55,520 --> 01:17:56,760
Speaker 1: don't want your carbons.

1550
01:17:58,240 --> 01:17:59,640
Speaker 3: I'm still keyed up. I can't help it.

1551
01:18:00,000 --> 01:18:00,680
Speaker 2: It is just like.

1552
01:18:02,160 --> 01:18:05,479
Speaker 1: Such processes of old that no one ever, like a

1553
01:18:05,600 --> 01:18:08,200
Speaker 1: twenty year old is like, what are you talking about?

1554
01:18:08,280 --> 01:18:09,680
Speaker 2: This is like a foreign language to me.

1555
01:18:09,760 --> 01:18:12,040
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, there was a time where we had

1556
01:18:12,080 --> 01:18:14,720
Speaker 1: to make carbon copies of credit cards and we had

1557
01:18:14,720 --> 01:18:17,240
Speaker 1: to tear up the shit because people were afraid of

1558
01:18:17,320 --> 01:18:18,640
Speaker 1: like credit.

1559
01:18:18,280 --> 01:18:20,719
Speaker 2: Card fraud or whatever. So dumb.

1560
01:18:20,920 --> 01:18:23,040
Speaker 4: And also, just to make it a little bit sweeter,

1561
01:18:23,160 --> 01:18:24,920
Speaker 4: the machine weighed like twenty pens.

1562
01:18:24,960 --> 01:18:29,840
Speaker 2: Oh my god, oh my god. Insane. Insane. The other thing.

1563
01:18:29,760 --> 01:18:33,960
Speaker 1: Too, was that people were giving out seven digit phone numbers.

1564
01:18:34,360 --> 01:18:34,720
Speaker 3: Thank you.

1565
01:18:36,080 --> 01:18:38,680
Speaker 1: I mean, this is a fucking world. Welcome to our

1566
01:18:38,800 --> 01:18:40,719
Speaker 1: childhood people, Jesus.

1567
01:18:41,040 --> 01:18:42,479
Speaker 3: Also the special order.

1568
01:18:42,880 --> 01:18:46,720
Speaker 4: Oh when she said not only the special order, and

1569
01:18:46,760 --> 01:18:49,280
Speaker 4: I'm sure we'll get into it, but the special order scam.

1570
01:18:49,760 --> 01:18:50,400
Speaker 2: Oh my god.

1571
01:18:51,200 --> 01:18:54,600
Speaker 1: So let's talk about it right now, because basically, basically

1572
01:18:54,640 --> 01:18:57,200
Speaker 1: the next part of this movie is that Cheryl she

1573
01:18:57,240 --> 01:19:00,479
Speaker 1: gets a shipment at the Store of phil Alms from

1574
01:19:00,520 --> 01:19:03,599
Speaker 1: this actor that she's obsessed with, Fay Richards right, whom

1575
01:19:03,680 --> 01:19:05,160
Speaker 1: she calls the Watermelon Woman.

1576
01:19:05,400 --> 01:19:06,439
Speaker 2: And already I'm.

1577
01:19:06,320 --> 01:19:11,519
Speaker 1: Like, special ordering VHS tapes, bring me the fuck back

1578
01:19:11,560 --> 01:19:14,120
Speaker 1: to my childhood, please.

1579
01:19:14,320 --> 01:19:17,519
Speaker 4: Waiting weeks to see if they could even get it

1580
01:19:18,240 --> 01:19:19,559
Speaker 4: and then more weeks to get it.

1581
01:19:19,760 --> 01:19:23,759
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I mean listen the video store. Really,

1582
01:19:24,200 --> 01:19:26,479
Speaker 1: I cannot stress enough how formative it was for me.

1583
01:19:26,600 --> 01:19:29,479
Speaker 1: But just this like it was like, Oh, I'm gonna

1584
01:19:29,479 --> 01:19:32,320
Speaker 1: go to the video store and They're gonna special order

1585
01:19:32,400 --> 01:19:35,599
Speaker 1: something that they don't have in stock. For me, it

1586
01:19:35,720 --> 01:19:39,559
Speaker 1: was like the moment of like confirmation that you were

1587
01:19:39,560 --> 01:19:41,439
Speaker 1: a person of this world, that you.

1588
01:19:41,439 --> 01:19:43,479
Speaker 2: Had good taste. It was the same thing at the

1589
01:19:43,520 --> 01:19:44,000
Speaker 2: record store.

1590
01:19:44,040 --> 01:19:46,120
Speaker 1: By the way, the record store would also order special

1591
01:19:46,240 --> 01:19:48,840
Speaker 1: order you things and they would call you when it

1592
01:19:48,880 --> 01:19:51,439
Speaker 1: came in. Oh my god, I just like love it,

1593
01:19:51,520 --> 01:19:52,120
Speaker 1: love it, love it.

1594
01:19:52,439 --> 01:19:52,759
Speaker 2: Okay.

1595
01:19:52,840 --> 01:19:55,920
Speaker 1: So basically, Cheryl gets a shipment of Fay Richards films.

1596
01:19:55,960 --> 01:20:01,200
Speaker 2: Now, Fay Richards does not actually exist in real life life, right.

1597
01:20:01,160 --> 01:20:06,320
Speaker 1: But she is reminiscent of black actors like Haddie McDaniel

1598
01:20:06,520 --> 01:20:10,840
Speaker 1: and Louise Beavers and Butterfly McQueen, who were actual real

1599
01:20:10,880 --> 01:20:15,200
Speaker 1: people working in classic Hollywood, and Cheryl's in the film.

1600
01:20:15,360 --> 01:20:18,000
Speaker 1: Cheryl's favorite movie that Fay Richards stars it is called

1601
01:20:18,520 --> 01:20:25,639
Speaker 1: Plantation Memories, which basically stars Faye in this stereotypical quote

1602
01:20:25,720 --> 01:20:30,080
Speaker 1: unquote black mammy role, right, which most of these real

1603
01:20:30,120 --> 01:20:34,040
Speaker 1: life actors like Haddie McDaniel performed in this era in Hollywood.

1604
01:20:34,240 --> 01:20:37,080
Speaker 2: Right, So it's obvious that, you.

1605
01:20:37,040 --> 01:20:41,599
Speaker 1: Know, Cheryl is trying to figure out who these women were,

1606
01:20:42,320 --> 01:20:45,240
Speaker 1: and you know, as a filmmaker, she's trying to like

1607
01:20:45,560 --> 01:20:51,320
Speaker 1: understand like why these great women were put in such

1608
01:20:52,479 --> 01:20:57,200
Speaker 1: crappy roles, right right, And shortly after Cheryl gets these videos,

1609
01:20:57,240 --> 01:21:00,599
Speaker 1: she starts this video project documentary to find out more

1610
01:21:00,600 --> 01:21:05,200
Speaker 1: about the watermelon woman Fay Richard's and so now begins

1611
01:21:05,200 --> 01:21:07,240
Speaker 1: the sort of like movie in a movie aspect of

1612
01:21:07,280 --> 01:21:10,760
Speaker 1: the film, which I think is so fresh and so great.

1613
01:21:11,160 --> 01:21:12,559
Speaker 2: I love it. Yeah, me too.

1614
01:21:12,600 --> 01:21:15,280
Speaker 1: I Mean, we're checking in with Cheryl's real life, which

1615
01:21:15,280 --> 01:21:19,240
Speaker 1: includes like hanging out with Tamara and her girlfriend, going

1616
01:21:19,280 --> 01:21:23,000
Speaker 1: on bad dates, flirting with customers at her video store,

1617
01:21:23,080 --> 01:21:26,000
Speaker 1: including this woman named Diana who is this kind of

1618
01:21:26,040 --> 01:21:30,080
Speaker 1: like artistic white woman who moves from Chicago to Philadelphia.

1619
01:21:30,760 --> 01:21:35,120
Speaker 1: And intersperse with that, we're getting pieces of the documentary

1620
01:21:35,120 --> 01:21:39,080
Speaker 1: that Cheryl's making about Fay, and she's interviewing like black

1621
01:21:39,200 --> 01:21:43,200
Speaker 1: historians who knew Faye and worked with her, And at

1622
01:21:43,240 --> 01:21:46,839
Speaker 1: some point Cheryl finds out through a series of interviews

1623
01:21:46,840 --> 01:21:51,320
Speaker 1: that Fay worked closely with this white female director named

1624
01:21:51,400 --> 01:21:55,120
Speaker 1: Martha Page, who, again, Martha Page is not a real person,

1625
01:21:55,720 --> 01:21:58,200
Speaker 1: but I saw as kind.

1626
01:21:57,920 --> 01:22:00,120
Speaker 2: Of this like she's kind of like a door the

1627
01:22:00,280 --> 01:22:01,439
Speaker 2: Rsner type or something.

1628
01:22:01,960 --> 01:22:07,320
Speaker 1: She was basically like an early classic Hollywood female white director. Okay,

1629
01:22:08,040 --> 01:22:13,560
Speaker 1: and Cheryl discovers that Fay possibly had a romantic relationship

1630
01:22:13,640 --> 01:22:18,720
Speaker 1: with Martha, despite the fact that an interracial lesbian relationship

1631
01:22:18,880 --> 01:22:22,759
Speaker 1: in like the nineteen thirties would have not been happening

1632
01:22:22,880 --> 01:22:23,800
Speaker 1: in that era. Right.

1633
01:22:24,120 --> 01:22:24,640
Speaker 2: I love this.

1634
01:22:25,000 --> 01:22:27,120
Speaker 4: I love the discovery part of this film. Like, I

1635
01:22:27,120 --> 01:22:30,520
Speaker 4: think that what she does so well with Cheryl Donye

1636
01:22:30,600 --> 01:22:35,760
Speaker 4: does so well is to layer in how difficult it

1637
01:22:35,960 --> 01:22:38,320
Speaker 4: was to find people who were preserving this kind of

1638
01:22:38,400 --> 01:22:41,280
Speaker 4: history through this narrative of looking for this actor.

1639
01:22:41,400 --> 01:22:43,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, I love that.

1640
01:22:43,200 --> 01:22:46,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, And you know, and what I think is great

1641
01:22:46,520 --> 01:22:51,240
Speaker 1: is that she is she's created a fictional universe of

1642
01:22:51,280 --> 01:22:55,360
Speaker 1: these characters that are representing real people in the world, right,

1643
01:22:55,560 --> 01:22:58,040
Speaker 1: and she's kind of making her own story. So it's

1644
01:22:58,080 --> 01:23:02,479
Speaker 1: kind of like a mockumentary or a fake documentary, which

1645
01:23:02,520 --> 01:23:06,040
Speaker 1: has been a long tradition of in cinema forever. But

1646
01:23:06,200 --> 01:23:09,920
Speaker 1: you know, she's also kind of like communicating the bigger

1647
01:23:10,080 --> 01:23:13,680
Speaker 1: points right that she wants to make, which is, you know,

1648
01:23:13,880 --> 01:23:18,400
Speaker 1: all about sort of black culture and black roles in

1649
01:23:18,520 --> 01:23:19,599
Speaker 1: classic Hollywood. Right.

1650
01:23:20,040 --> 01:23:23,840
Speaker 2: So meanwhile, while this is happening, while her.

1651
01:23:23,760 --> 01:23:28,439
Speaker 1: Documentary is being made, Cheryl and Diana start dating. And

1652
01:23:28,880 --> 01:23:32,320
Speaker 1: I should say that the woman who plays Diana is

1653
01:23:32,439 --> 01:23:36,400
Speaker 1: Gwenevere Turner, who is also herself a great lesbian filmmaker.

1654
01:23:36,680 --> 01:23:40,320
Speaker 1: She's an actor, she's a writer. She wrote and acted

1655
01:23:40,560 --> 01:23:45,520
Speaker 1: in Go Fish and American Psycho. She wrote The Notorious

1656
01:23:45,560 --> 01:23:49,400
Speaker 1: Betty Page where Gretchen mal plays Betty Page. And she's

1657
01:23:49,439 --> 01:23:53,200
Speaker 1: been in like lots of film and TV. But these

1658
01:23:53,240 --> 01:23:57,720
Speaker 1: moments of seeing this lesbian relationship play out, seeing the

1659
01:23:57,800 --> 01:24:02,599
Speaker 1: like world that is in in Philadelphia, I mean, there's

1660
01:24:02,680 --> 01:24:04,960
Speaker 1: just so much to this movie that I love, these

1661
01:24:05,000 --> 01:24:08,519
Speaker 1: little moments of you know, sort of her living her

1662
01:24:08,600 --> 01:24:12,679
Speaker 1: life is It was great because it was It's the nineties,

1663
01:24:12,720 --> 01:24:14,320
Speaker 1: and I grew up in the nineties, and I just

1664
01:24:15,000 --> 01:24:17,960
Speaker 1: to me, I just appreciated seeing this like there was

1665
01:24:18,040 --> 01:24:22,040
Speaker 1: just in this movie this big intersection of like black culture,

1666
01:24:22,479 --> 01:24:27,800
Speaker 1: lesbian and queer culture, independent film culture, academia, women's studies,

1667
01:24:28,439 --> 01:24:33,559
Speaker 1: lesbian bars, queer bookstores, queer activism, you know, the video store.

1668
01:24:33,600 --> 01:24:34,920
Speaker 1: I mean, it was just sort of like all of

1669
01:24:34,960 --> 01:24:39,719
Speaker 1: these things coming together. It really was like a really

1670
01:24:39,760 --> 01:24:42,519
Speaker 1: amazing kind of time capsule for this era.

1671
01:24:43,040 --> 01:24:45,880
Speaker 4: Right, I agree, And I think I completely agree with that,

1672
01:24:45,920 --> 01:24:47,519
Speaker 4: And I think that's one of the things that I've

1673
01:24:47,560 --> 01:24:49,479
Speaker 4: only seen this movie for the first time within the

1674
01:24:49,520 --> 01:24:53,880
Speaker 4: last few years, but it's really it's really important to

1675
01:24:53,920 --> 01:24:56,800
Speaker 4: talk about it from that historical point of view. And

1676
01:24:56,840 --> 01:24:59,040
Speaker 4: I think that there's a character in the movie that

1677
01:25:00,040 --> 01:25:03,680
Speaker 4: Cheryl is interviewing and she says, you know, make our

1678
01:25:03,800 --> 01:25:07,120
Speaker 4: history before we're dead and gone, because there's this knowledge

1679
01:25:07,120 --> 01:25:09,040
Speaker 4: that Cheryl who Again, this is where I think using

1680
01:25:09,040 --> 01:25:13,559
Speaker 4: the video store and videography is a great and fresh

1681
01:25:13,600 --> 01:25:17,760
Speaker 4: take because she's using this new method of media to

1682
01:25:17,840 --> 01:25:21,800
Speaker 4: tell these old and soon to be forgotten stories. Yeah,

1683
01:25:21,840 --> 01:25:25,120
Speaker 4: because once people are dead, the stories are going with them.

1684
01:25:25,160 --> 01:25:27,760
Speaker 4: Like she finds that one woman who was like, oh yeah,

1685
01:25:27,800 --> 01:25:30,160
Speaker 4: like I knew I knew the watermelon woman that was,

1686
01:25:30,240 --> 01:25:31,840
Speaker 4: but she called herself that when she was trying to

1687
01:25:31,840 --> 01:25:34,240
Speaker 4: get into film. I knew her as Faye Richard's and

1688
01:25:34,320 --> 01:25:36,200
Speaker 4: like I knew her as this singer, and she kind

1689
01:25:36,200 --> 01:25:39,280
Speaker 4: of tells this history that would have been not tracked

1690
01:25:39,360 --> 01:25:44,200
Speaker 4: anywhere throughout time. So it's so jarring and crucial to

1691
01:25:44,240 --> 01:25:47,960
Speaker 4: see a movie in the nineties set in these beautiful

1692
01:25:47,960 --> 01:25:52,439
Speaker 4: worlds of blackness and queerness and using new media to

1693
01:25:52,439 --> 01:25:53,439
Speaker 4: preserve that oldness.

1694
01:25:53,439 --> 01:25:55,040
Speaker 3: It just really hit me hard.

1695
01:25:54,880 --> 01:25:57,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, because you gotta know, I mean, in a pre

1696
01:25:57,320 --> 01:26:02,559
Speaker 1: internet era, I mean, it was incredibly hard to archive

1697
01:26:02,720 --> 01:26:05,800
Speaker 1: things at the rate that we do this now, and

1698
01:26:05,840 --> 01:26:09,519
Speaker 1: I mean there's still huge gaps even in the digital era.

1699
01:26:09,600 --> 01:26:13,800
Speaker 1: There's still huge sections of culture of any culture that

1700
01:26:13,920 --> 01:26:18,320
Speaker 1: are missing because there hasn't been preservation work, or there

1701
01:26:18,400 --> 01:26:21,599
Speaker 1: just hasn't been you know, the right kind of access

1702
01:26:21,680 --> 01:26:23,760
Speaker 1: the right people to get in there and really make.

1703
01:26:23,680 --> 01:26:24,080
Speaker 2: Sense of it.

1704
01:26:24,160 --> 01:26:26,000
Speaker 1: So it's kind of like it really hit me too

1705
01:26:26,040 --> 01:26:28,000
Speaker 1: in this era of like, yeah, if you didn't talk

1706
01:26:28,080 --> 01:26:30,479
Speaker 1: to the people and put them on a videotape, it

1707
01:26:30,600 --> 01:26:33,360
Speaker 1: was gone, Like it was really not it didn't exist.

1708
01:26:33,800 --> 01:26:37,200
Speaker 1: And the part of the Video Store to me, oh

1709
01:26:37,280 --> 01:26:41,120
Speaker 1: my god, I just have this. My favorite part of

1710
01:26:41,120 --> 01:26:42,800
Speaker 1: this movie, or one of my favorite parts in this

1711
01:26:42,880 --> 01:26:45,559
Speaker 1: movie is when Cheryl is actually working in the video

1712
01:26:45,600 --> 01:26:49,440
Speaker 1: store and she is recommending a double feature to Diana

1713
01:26:49,920 --> 01:26:52,120
Speaker 1: in the video store. Now, this is when they're still

1714
01:26:52,240 --> 01:26:55,120
Speaker 1: kind of like talking and they haven't started fully dating it,

1715
01:26:55,160 --> 01:26:57,799
Speaker 1: but they're just kind of like feeling each other out, okay,

1716
01:26:58,120 --> 01:27:00,960
Speaker 1: which is like, okay, come on, we have podcast where

1717
01:27:01,000 --> 01:27:03,080
Speaker 1: we recommend double features.

1718
01:27:02,600 --> 01:27:05,799
Speaker 2: Every damn week. So what is not to love about

1719
01:27:05,800 --> 01:27:07,920
Speaker 2: this scene and the movie that?

1720
01:27:08,720 --> 01:27:12,559
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I must talk about them first. Okay,

1721
01:27:12,560 --> 01:27:14,880
Speaker 1: First of all, the one thing I will say is

1722
01:27:14,920 --> 01:27:16,280
Speaker 1: there's like these little reveals.

1723
01:27:16,320 --> 01:27:16,479
Speaker 4: Now.

1724
01:27:16,560 --> 01:27:19,880
Speaker 1: I remember when we were talking to Karina Longworth a

1725
01:27:19,880 --> 01:27:23,200
Speaker 1: couple episodes ago about how she would like Show Boyfriends

1726
01:27:23,240 --> 01:27:24,880
Speaker 1: Kiss Me Stupid, and it was just sort of like,

1727
01:27:25,000 --> 01:27:26,639
Speaker 1: if you like this movie, then we can date.

1728
01:27:26,720 --> 01:27:28,120
Speaker 2: If you don't, we cannot.

1729
01:27:28,640 --> 01:27:32,960
Speaker 1: And just that whole concept came flooding back in the

1730
01:27:33,000 --> 01:27:37,160
Speaker 1: scene because Cheryl is going around recommending movies to Diana,

1731
01:27:37,400 --> 01:27:40,400
Speaker 1: and Diana's like I hate Sissy spaceic, which I was

1732
01:27:40,479 --> 01:27:42,519
Speaker 1: like shocked by that.

1733
01:27:43,439 --> 01:27:47,600
Speaker 2: I was like, you hate to Space what? But of

1734
01:27:47,640 --> 01:27:49,360
Speaker 2: course she claims it is because.

1735
01:27:49,120 --> 01:27:55,720
Speaker 1: She's true skinny, Like, okay, yeah, I got a point there,

1736
01:27:55,880 --> 01:27:57,720
Speaker 1: I guess right, I don't know.

1737
01:27:58,800 --> 01:28:01,760
Speaker 3: Uh, that's how she's kind of flirt, just.

1738
01:28:01,720 --> 01:28:04,160
Speaker 1: Try to flirt, right, that's you just got to pull out,

1739
01:28:04,400 --> 01:28:06,120
Speaker 1: pull out the information.

1740
01:28:05,720 --> 01:28:06,240
Speaker 2: That you can.

1741
01:28:06,800 --> 01:28:13,240
Speaker 1: But Cheryl ultimately recommends a double feature of repulsion and

1742
01:28:13,320 --> 01:28:19,519
Speaker 1: Cleopatra Jones was just like, what a fucking night in

1743
01:28:19,640 --> 01:28:22,200
Speaker 1: if you ask me, right, Oh that is so.

1744
01:28:22,400 --> 01:28:25,200
Speaker 4: I mean you're definitely coming back to talk to that

1745
01:28:25,240 --> 01:28:28,640
Speaker 4: person if they recommended those two movies to you. That

1746
01:28:28,760 --> 01:28:31,920
Speaker 4: was a solid move on her part across the board.

1747
01:28:31,960 --> 01:28:34,040
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I mean just the best.

1748
01:28:34,160 --> 01:28:37,840
Speaker 1: And you know what, this whole scene, it just reminded

1749
01:28:37,840 --> 01:28:40,559
Speaker 1: me of being so in addition to the kind of

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01:28:40,640 --> 01:28:42,920
Speaker 1: video store recommendation.

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01:28:42,479 --> 01:28:45,760
Speaker 2: Era, right, just of like, of that whole thing.

1752
01:28:46,320 --> 01:28:49,559
Speaker 1: It just reminded me of being like a young person

1753
01:28:49,880 --> 01:28:55,639
Speaker 1: and the notion of being attracted to good taste, right yes,

1754
01:28:55,680 --> 01:28:59,439
Speaker 1: and also wanting to let everybody know that you had

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01:28:59,520 --> 01:29:04,519
Speaker 1: good tape, right yes. But this is you're doing it

1756
01:29:04,600 --> 01:29:08,360
Speaker 1: in a pre internet eraror where essentially you had to

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01:29:08,400 --> 01:29:10,960
Speaker 1: do shit like work in video stores and record stores

1758
01:29:10,960 --> 01:29:13,519
Speaker 1: and you had to hang out all day to try

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01:29:13,560 --> 01:29:14,320
Speaker 1: to talk to people.

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01:29:14,760 --> 01:29:16,800
Speaker 4: Otherwise your friend's going to try to set you up

1761
01:29:16,840 --> 01:29:26,639
Speaker 4: on a blind double date with Evet, a vet who.

1762
01:29:25,520 --> 01:29:31,599
Speaker 1: Minie Riperton, and it's like it ain't working making bold choices.

1763
01:29:31,760 --> 01:29:32,839
Speaker 3: None of them are landing.

1764
01:29:33,680 --> 01:29:34,679
Speaker 2: I mean, but I.

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01:29:34,600 --> 01:29:37,840
Speaker 4: Agree, like this is in this movie and especially in

1766
01:29:37,840 --> 01:29:41,600
Speaker 4: this viewing, it really made me remember what it was

1767
01:29:41,720 --> 01:29:45,120
Speaker 4: like to fall in love with someone based on a

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01:29:45,200 --> 01:29:49,240
Speaker 4: shared interest or passion or just kind of like finding

1769
01:29:49,280 --> 01:29:51,720
Speaker 4: things out about someone, because nowadays, I feel like it's

1770
01:29:51,840 --> 01:29:54,800
Speaker 4: very easy if you want to to know everything about

1771
01:29:54,800 --> 01:29:58,040
Speaker 4: someone before you even go out on your first date. Yeah,

1772
01:29:58,080 --> 01:30:00,160
Speaker 4: and this is more of like like the discovery of

1773
01:30:00,880 --> 01:30:02,920
Speaker 4: love that I really liked in this movie.

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01:30:02,960 --> 01:30:04,000
Speaker 2: Well, and also too.

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01:30:04,439 --> 01:30:06,760
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not saying I'm not saying that good

1776
01:30:06,800 --> 01:30:09,599
Speaker 1: taste doesn't matter anymore to me as an older person.

1777
01:30:09,640 --> 01:30:13,519
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that necessarily, but I also feel like

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01:30:13,560 --> 01:30:14,240
Speaker 1: it doesn't.

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01:30:14,640 --> 01:30:17,880
Speaker 2: It just was so much of everything when I was

1780
01:30:17,880 --> 01:30:19,240
Speaker 2: a young person that I was.

1781
01:30:19,200 --> 01:30:21,280
Speaker 1: Like, Oh, I don't care if this guy is a

1782
01:30:21,280 --> 01:30:25,120
Speaker 1: fuck boy or has you know, like a hundred red flags,

1783
01:30:25,560 --> 01:30:28,599
Speaker 1: he likes repulsion and Cleopatrick Joes or whatever. You know.

1784
01:30:28,640 --> 01:30:30,519
Speaker 1: It was just that thing where I was like, I'll

1785
01:30:30,600 --> 01:30:33,680
Speaker 1: bypass all of the actual shit that matters and I

1786
01:30:33,800 --> 01:30:36,840
Speaker 1: just want to, you know, focus it on the movies

1787
01:30:36,880 --> 01:30:39,680
Speaker 1: that he likes in them, and in the music that

1788
01:30:39,720 --> 01:30:41,719
Speaker 1: he likes or whomever, whoever it is.

1789
01:30:41,680 --> 01:30:42,479
Speaker 3: And the fun stuff.

1790
01:30:42,720 --> 01:30:46,680
Speaker 1: Yea, even friendship, I mean doesn't it's not even just relationships,

1791
01:30:46,680 --> 01:30:48,960
Speaker 1: but it's like friendship, you know what I mean, it's like,

1792
01:30:49,040 --> 01:30:52,000
Speaker 1: oh yeah, And I just that to me was I

1793
01:30:52,040 --> 01:30:55,600
Speaker 1: think it was a heartwarming part of this movie. For me.

1794
01:30:55,640 --> 01:30:58,080
Speaker 1: It was just seeing that sort of video store interaction,

1795
01:30:58,400 --> 01:31:01,200
Speaker 1: you know. And I don't know, I mean, there's just

1796
01:31:01,240 --> 01:31:04,040
Speaker 1: so many other good little parts of this movie. There's

1797
01:31:04,040 --> 01:31:07,559
Speaker 1: so many good cameos in it, Like Camille Paglia is

1798
01:31:07,560 --> 01:31:11,320
Speaker 1: in this movie, Cheryl Junie's real life mom is in

1799
01:31:11,400 --> 01:31:13,280
Speaker 1: this movie.

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01:31:13,360 --> 01:31:17,760
Speaker 4: Camille Paglia shows up in a scene that is so

1801
01:31:18,520 --> 01:31:22,559
Speaker 4: hilariously Camille Paglio because she basically is talking about how

1802
01:31:22,640 --> 01:31:25,599
Speaker 4: black scholars are wrong about the use of a certain

1803
01:31:25,640 --> 01:31:27,280
Speaker 4: word or like oh.

1804
01:31:27,200 --> 01:31:27,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is black.

1805
01:31:27,920 --> 01:31:30,400
Speaker 4: Like that's what we need is Camille Paglia telling people like,

1806
01:31:30,439 --> 01:31:32,679
Speaker 4: you know, oh you're a black scholar, Well you're wrong

1807
01:31:32,720 --> 01:31:33,760
Speaker 4: about how you think about this.

1808
01:31:33,960 --> 01:31:35,720
Speaker 3: I just her energy sometimes is.

1809
01:31:35,800 --> 01:31:36,760
Speaker 2: Like oh yeah.

1810
01:31:36,800 --> 01:31:40,240
Speaker 1: I just was like, Okay, she's setting up a premise

1811
01:31:40,280 --> 01:31:44,720
Speaker 1: here and yes, you know, but I you know, like

1812
01:31:44,760 --> 01:31:47,280
Speaker 1: I said, Cheryl Junie's real life mom is in it.

1813
01:31:47,840 --> 01:31:51,759
Speaker 1: And I don't know if anybody like the late writer

1814
01:31:52,040 --> 01:31:54,680
Speaker 1: David Rokoff is in this movie. He plays a librarian.

1815
01:31:54,760 --> 01:31:56,679
Speaker 1: And I when I saw him, I was like, oh

1816
01:31:56,720 --> 01:31:59,080
Speaker 1: my god, this is so wonderful, right.

1817
01:31:59,280 --> 01:32:01,840
Speaker 3: So excited. I did not remember that he was in

1818
01:32:01,880 --> 01:32:02,200
Speaker 3: this movie.

1819
01:32:02,280 --> 01:32:03,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh totally.

1820
01:32:03,680 --> 01:32:06,200
Speaker 1: And I because once you see him and you hear

1821
01:32:06,280 --> 01:32:08,760
Speaker 1: him talk, you're like, oh, that's definitely him. But it's

1822
01:32:08,800 --> 01:32:11,840
Speaker 1: just listen, this movie is such a treasure. If you

1823
01:32:11,880 --> 01:32:15,240
Speaker 1: were fond of independent film of the nineteen nineties, as

1824
01:32:15,280 --> 01:32:18,559
Speaker 1: I am, if you grew up in the nineties and

1825
01:32:18,720 --> 01:32:24,040
Speaker 1: you it's just will bring back so many feelings. I mean,

1826
01:32:24,600 --> 01:32:29,080
Speaker 1: slam poetry, nights, fucking like whatever you got, it's here

1827
01:32:29,160 --> 01:32:31,280
Speaker 1: for you. And I just really appreciate this film. I

1828
01:32:31,280 --> 01:32:34,840
Speaker 1: mean it's like it's so unique, it's just so well made,

1829
01:32:34,880 --> 01:32:38,639
Speaker 1: and it's doing so much while also being like really

1830
01:32:38,680 --> 01:32:42,120
Speaker 1: heartwarming and entertaining and interesting. So it's like it's such

1831
01:32:42,120 --> 01:32:44,919
Speaker 1: a great movie. I'm just so glad that it exists.

1832
01:32:46,000 --> 01:32:47,920
Speaker 3: I am too. I'm so glad you picked it too.

1833
01:32:47,920 --> 01:32:50,160
Speaker 4: And it's I can see why because this is like

1834
01:32:50,280 --> 01:32:55,480
Speaker 4: if video stores were part of what formed your identity

1835
01:32:56,160 --> 01:32:59,200
Speaker 4: as it is now. Like this movie bridges the gap

1836
01:32:59,400 --> 01:33:03,240
Speaker 4: between I'm going to this dark cafe with my feather

1837
01:33:03,360 --> 01:33:08,200
Speaker 4: pen to write Millie and and be in the city

1838
01:33:08,240 --> 01:33:11,280
Speaker 4: as an artist Millie and the like, I'm actually a

1839
01:33:11,360 --> 01:33:17,080
Speaker 4: working artist, Millie. I love that this bridge is that gap,

1840
01:33:17,439 --> 01:33:19,920
Speaker 4: and I think it's like it's so fun and it's

1841
01:33:19,920 --> 01:33:21,759
Speaker 4: so lighthearted, but you're right, she's doing.

1842
01:33:21,680 --> 01:33:23,559
Speaker 3: So much work and so much important work.

1843
01:33:23,600 --> 01:33:27,559
Speaker 4: And there's one thing that stuns me about this movie

1844
01:33:27,800 --> 01:33:30,679
Speaker 4: that is maybe a weird thing to be stunned by,

1845
01:33:31,200 --> 01:33:34,680
Speaker 4: but if you're watching the opening credits, the opening credits

1846
01:33:34,960 --> 01:33:37,519
Speaker 4: list all the people that helped get this film made,

1847
01:33:38,360 --> 01:33:41,280
Speaker 4: and it goes on for a while, like a while,

1848
01:33:41,360 --> 01:33:45,439
Speaker 4: and it reminded me of the conversation we had where

1849
01:33:45,439 --> 01:33:49,519
Speaker 4: we were talking about how black filmmakers had to work

1850
01:33:49,680 --> 01:33:52,599
Speaker 4: so hard to be considered au toeurs and to have

1851
01:33:52,680 --> 01:33:56,640
Speaker 4: their work kind of venerated in any way, whereas you

1852
01:33:56,680 --> 01:33:58,680
Speaker 4: know that we don't see the same thing with you know,

1853
01:33:58,680 --> 01:34:01,400
Speaker 4: a white filmmaker can make one move, be one indie movie,

1854
01:34:01,439 --> 01:34:03,559
Speaker 4: and be plucked out of you know, obscurity into a

1855
01:34:03,600 --> 01:34:05,600
Speaker 4: career and they're directing Star Wars next thing, you know,

1856
01:34:06,520 --> 01:34:09,640
Speaker 4: and like that doesn't happen. So when I saw that

1857
01:34:09,640 --> 01:34:13,479
Speaker 4: that list of like how many people had to come

1858
01:34:13,520 --> 01:34:18,200
Speaker 4: together to make this movie happen, it was just really touching. Yeah,

1859
01:34:18,320 --> 01:34:20,080
Speaker 4: it just was really touching at the beginning of that

1860
01:34:20,479 --> 01:34:21,360
Speaker 4: film totally.

1861
01:34:21,439 --> 01:34:24,479
Speaker 1: And you know, as and as is with most people

1862
01:34:24,479 --> 01:34:27,479
Speaker 1: who were making independent movies in the nineties and before.

1863
01:34:27,600 --> 01:34:30,320
Speaker 1: I mean, it is like, you really it takes a village,

1864
01:34:30,360 --> 01:34:32,960
Speaker 1: like her family is in the movie, her friends are

1865
01:34:32,960 --> 01:34:33,680
Speaker 1: in the movie. You know.

1866
01:34:33,760 --> 01:34:35,080
Speaker 2: It's just sort of that thing where like.

1867
01:34:35,320 --> 01:34:38,120
Speaker 1: You don't get to just make your first feature film

1868
01:34:38,160 --> 01:34:43,439
Speaker 1: and have bankable Hollywood stars, you know, with the budget

1869
01:34:43,560 --> 01:34:45,000
Speaker 1: and distribution.

1870
01:34:45,680 --> 01:34:47,719
Speaker 3: You know, you're not getting Tim Capello.

1871
01:34:47,960 --> 01:34:53,160
Speaker 1: Yeah exactly, it's gonna cost you to get Tim. But

1872
01:34:54,120 --> 01:34:56,040
Speaker 1: you know, as a movie about a video store, it

1873
01:34:56,400 --> 01:34:59,200
Speaker 1: just brought back so many memories and this whole episode

1874
01:34:59,360 --> 01:35:03,880
Speaker 1: has been so fun, so fun. I will say for

1875
01:35:03,920 --> 01:35:06,759
Speaker 1: the record that I did have so many late fees

1876
01:35:06,800 --> 01:35:10,320
Speaker 1: that did cost more than the actual movie many many times.

1877
01:35:10,640 --> 01:35:12,720
Speaker 3: And is this before or after you worked there?

1878
01:35:12,760 --> 01:35:15,720
Speaker 2: Oh, this was before and they were clearing your own

1879
01:35:15,760 --> 01:35:16,200
Speaker 2: late fees.

1880
01:35:16,320 --> 01:35:20,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, Actually, I had my I actually forgot to return

1881
01:35:20,840 --> 01:35:26,040
Speaker 1: a videotape at the store that I eventually worked at,

1882
01:35:26,520 --> 01:35:30,040
Speaker 1: and had my membership ripped up in front of me.

1883
01:35:30,320 --> 01:35:33,520
Speaker 2: Oh and paid and paid.

1884
01:35:33,320 --> 01:35:37,360
Speaker 1: Fifty dollars for a copy of Suburbia nineteen ninety.

1885
01:35:37,120 --> 01:35:41,840
Speaker 2: Seven on VHS. Oh damn. I was shamed at the

1886
01:35:41,920 --> 01:35:43,360
Speaker 2: video store that I later worked at.

1887
01:35:43,360 --> 01:35:44,080
Speaker 3: So there we go.

1888
01:35:45,240 --> 01:35:47,080
Speaker 4: This is the other thing about the late fees that

1889
01:35:47,520 --> 01:35:49,519
Speaker 4: I think, I don't know. I think this is pretty

1890
01:35:49,520 --> 01:35:53,479
Speaker 4: standard across the board. You would return your movie and

1891
01:35:53,479 --> 01:35:56,120
Speaker 4: then you wouldn't find out about the late fee until

1892
01:35:56,200 --> 01:35:57,840
Speaker 4: the next time you went to rent a movie.

1893
01:35:57,920 --> 01:35:59,599
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, of course. So you'd go to.

1894
01:35:59,520 --> 01:36:01,240
Speaker 4: Rent a movie and they'd be like, okay, the movies

1895
01:36:01,280 --> 01:36:02,800
Speaker 4: you know, three ninety nine and your la.

1896
01:36:02,800 --> 01:36:05,400
Speaker 3: Fees are and you're like, oh shit.

1897
01:36:05,720 --> 01:36:09,960
Speaker 4: So if you have a family account, and let's say Carol,

1898
01:36:10,760 --> 01:36:14,519
Speaker 4: your grandmother wants to rent Nightmare on Elm Street and

1899
01:36:14,560 --> 01:36:16,720
Speaker 4: she has to pay twenty dollars for it because you

1900
01:36:16,840 --> 01:36:21,760
Speaker 4: have forgotten to return Gleaming the Cube, she ain't letting

1901
01:36:21,760 --> 01:36:23,080
Speaker 4: you rent on her account anymore.

1902
01:36:23,640 --> 01:36:25,360
Speaker 3: So that shit didn't play in my house.

1903
01:36:25,400 --> 01:36:29,360
Speaker 1: Shit. The video store was kind if they called you

1904
01:36:29,439 --> 01:36:31,519
Speaker 1: to tell you that a rental was late, like sometimes

1905
01:36:31,560 --> 01:36:33,479
Speaker 1: you would get a phoe like oh, by the way,

1906
01:36:33,680 --> 01:36:36,559
Speaker 1: like leaving the cube is seven days late. But yes,

1907
01:36:36,640 --> 01:36:38,800
Speaker 1: a lot of these video stores are like, Nope, it's

1908
01:36:38,800 --> 01:36:40,800
Speaker 1: going to be a complete surprise and shock to this

1909
01:36:40,840 --> 01:36:41,439
Speaker 1: person when.

1910
01:36:41,280 --> 01:36:42,679
Speaker 2: They come in the next time.

1911
01:36:43,760 --> 01:36:45,400
Speaker 4: It's either going to be the bread and butter of

1912
01:36:45,439 --> 01:36:48,120
Speaker 4: this store every time somebody pays, or we're going to

1913
01:36:48,439 --> 01:36:50,040
Speaker 4: hemorrhage customers.

1914
01:36:51,360 --> 01:36:55,120
Speaker 2: Oh my god, so this was so much fun.

1915
01:36:55,320 --> 01:36:57,800
Speaker 1: Yes, Well, do you want to tell the folks what

1916
01:36:57,840 --> 01:36:59,400
Speaker 1: the movies are for next week?

1917
01:37:00,080 --> 01:37:03,040
Speaker 4: Actually, no show next week, but there is going to

1918
01:37:03,040 --> 01:37:06,439
Speaker 4: be a bonus episode on Thursday, and we're going to

1919
01:37:06,479 --> 01:37:09,280
Speaker 4: be digging into the mailbag, so send us your questions

1920
01:37:09,400 --> 01:37:15,640
Speaker 4: when did you fall asleep during a wild movie? And

1921
01:37:15,680 --> 01:37:18,960
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01:37:19,000 --> 01:37:23,360
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01:37:23,439 --> 01:37:28,120
Speaker 4: from twenty nineteen and Old Boyfriends from nineteen seventy nine.

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Speaker 3: So you have a couple of weeks to watch those films.

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1927
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Speaker 2: Well listen, Danielle.

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Speaker 1: As always, it was a fucking pleasure, a blast.

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Speaker 4: Yes, you made me want to go and fall asleep

1950
01:38:44,120 --> 01:38:45,280
Speaker 4: in a movie theater next to you.

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Speaker 2: Well, you made me want to become a half vampire.

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Speaker 2: So here's some.

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Speaker 2: See a side by.

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Speaker 3: This has been an exactly right production.

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Speaker 4: by Tom bry Fogel, artwork by Garrett Ross. Our executive

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