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But yes, super excited for the Brian 0:03:23.880 --> 0:03:26.560 Miller beat Out Miller podcast that's coming out to kind 0:03:26.560 --> 0:03:29.040 of just wrap up twenty twenty as a whole. But 0:03:29.160 --> 0:03:33.200 first Black Zach on the podcast Turn This Up Yo 0:03:33.320 --> 0:03:40.200 Boutlet Cap podcast Black Zach in here South Carolina's own Zach. 0:03:40.440 --> 0:03:42.400 First of all, let's talk about all this jewel you 0:03:42.440 --> 0:03:46.000 got on bro. Yeah, that's a lot, my g you 0:03:46.120 --> 0:03:48.520 got the ovency, You've got the custom band on there 0:03:48.560 --> 0:03:51.560 with your name on it, and shit, I never saw that. Yeah. 0:03:51.880 --> 0:03:55.080 So Iviani he made this life from scratch, like he 0:03:55.200 --> 0:03:57.040 got the d M ME and it died with You 0:03:57.080 --> 0:03:59.720 got a Rolex, He has a role he cousin. I'm 0:03:59.720 --> 0:04:02.240 playing like one twenty four. I probably overpaid for it, 0:04:02.280 --> 0:04:04.360 but I just wanted to be the first one with 0:04:04.440 --> 0:04:06.600 some shit like that. That's one hundred and twenty thousand 0:04:06.600 --> 0:04:10.320 dollars watch twenty thousand? Damn what so what about the 0:04:10.360 --> 0:04:13.280 other one? Something lighter? Yeah? My brother, My brother brought 0:04:13.280 --> 0:04:15.560 this from me for my birthday. He brought us from 0:04:15.560 --> 0:04:18.400 my things like this is Jubilee. It's like thirty something 0:04:18.440 --> 0:04:21.760 like that. Man, your brother's a nice guy. Yeah for 0:04:21.839 --> 0:04:24.720 so Yeah, and then obviously you got every I mean, 0:04:24.800 --> 0:04:27.480 how many change you got on, bro? I only got 0:04:27.480 --> 0:04:29.400 like three. I ain't really like when I travel, I 0:04:29.400 --> 0:04:32.400 already like bringing all my jerks that's very smart. Yeah, 0:04:32.440 --> 0:04:34.440 I don't like bringing all this shit because this just 0:04:34.480 --> 0:04:36.200 be too much of a hassle. If you had to 0:04:36.360 --> 0:04:41.880 estimate how much money you have invested in jewelry, what 0:04:41.920 --> 0:04:46.000 would be your estimation, like selling fifty eight hundred thousand. 0:04:47.040 --> 0:04:50.559 Do you look at jewelry as an investment? At first, 0:04:50.560 --> 0:04:51.960 I was just I ain't even gonna lie to you. 0:04:52.000 --> 0:04:53.839 I was just doing it because at first I seen 0:04:54.000 --> 0:04:58.240 like but just before, like all the rappers was really 0:04:58.279 --> 0:05:00.360 really getting it to it. I remember used to see 0:05:00.360 --> 0:05:03.400 like the Migos and shit all the time, like they'll 0:05:04.200 --> 0:05:05.800 be at the jury Stone. I'm like, damn, this is 0:05:05.800 --> 0:05:07.360 what the roper was about to get into, like Juris. 0:05:07.440 --> 0:05:10.280 So I just started buying it. But then as I 0:05:10.360 --> 0:05:13.279 learned it, I had to learn like watches is what 0:05:13.440 --> 0:05:16.760 keep value watches and Cuban links and shit like that. 0:05:16.839 --> 0:05:18.320 So I was like, man, I'm about to just start 0:05:18.920 --> 0:05:22.040 buying like watches and Cuban links and stuff like that. 0:05:22.520 --> 0:05:25.200 I heard that if you flood your watch, though, it 0:05:25.240 --> 0:05:27.839 takes away from the long term values. That true, yeah, 0:05:27.880 --> 0:05:31.120 it do takeaway for some watch, but right now, like 0:05:31.160 --> 0:05:34.320 how to how to like how the pandemic and stuff 0:05:34.360 --> 0:05:35.920 is from what the jewelers tell me, Like he was 0:05:36.000 --> 0:05:38.039 trying to buy my ap from me. He be trying 0:05:38.040 --> 0:05:39.440 to buy it back. Yeah, he be trying to buy 0:05:39.440 --> 0:05:41.839 it back just for saying like everything lo on everything 0:05:41.920 --> 0:05:45.960 right now? Oh wow, that's crazy. Do you know? It's 0:05:46.000 --> 0:05:49.159 interesting because we're in a point in time in the 0:05:49.160 --> 0:05:51.320 world where there's people out here that are real desperate 0:05:52.160 --> 0:05:54.039 to hit a lick. Does that make you You just 0:05:54.040 --> 0:05:55.840 said that you don't move around a lot when you 0:05:55.880 --> 0:05:58.880 travel with all your jewelry. Are you worried about, like 0:05:59.520 --> 0:06:01.279 you know, being out of state or being out of 0:06:01.279 --> 0:06:04.479 town and like you know, ship in Texas, Benny got shot, 0:06:04.600 --> 0:06:08.440 Boozie got shot. You know, Yeah, it's been crazy. Are 0:06:08.480 --> 0:06:10.560 you like, does that make you change the way you 0:06:10.600 --> 0:06:13.240 move around? Because you're kind of known to have a 0:06:13.279 --> 0:06:15.120 lot of that's kind of like you know, a thing 0:06:15.120 --> 0:06:16.719 a lot of people know has that. Has that made 0:06:16.720 --> 0:06:19.120 you reevaluate that at all? I mean, I feel like 0:06:19.240 --> 0:06:22.040 nobody untouchable, but I just feel like, you know, it's 0:06:22.080 --> 0:06:24.120 it's all about like what you're gonna do after your 0:06:24.160 --> 0:06:26.520 shit get took or something, Like anybody can get some 0:06:26.640 --> 0:06:28.560 jud took or something. But you gotta just handle it, 0:06:28.600 --> 0:06:31.160 how to come and you got to know how to move, 0:06:31.279 --> 0:06:33.040 like I don't be in places where I don't got 0:06:33.080 --> 0:06:35.520 no beatings or why I don't why I shouldn't be 0:06:35.560 --> 0:06:38.080 there at the time. So, have you ever had any 0:06:38.120 --> 0:06:40.080 sort of incident happened like that where maybe someone trying 0:06:40.080 --> 0:06:43.920 to catch you slipping no knock on? Yeah, yeah, we 0:06:43.960 --> 0:06:48.840 can knock on what? Yeah, you got the project out? 0:06:48.960 --> 0:06:50.680 First of all? You drop two projects this year, right, 0:06:51.360 --> 0:06:54.040 Caroline Knocko. I dropped Caroline Knocker like as soon as 0:06:54.080 --> 0:06:57.159 the Yeah, it's like, as soon as I dropped Caroline 0:06:57.200 --> 0:06:59.960 knock On the Pandemic hit. It was crazy, Like I was. 0:07:00.320 --> 0:07:02.280 I had so much shit like lined up because I 0:07:02.279 --> 0:07:06.960 did a short film. I had like the money bag 0:07:07.080 --> 0:07:09.960 your tour set up yep, yeah, the Baby tour was 0:07:09.960 --> 0:07:12.240 set up in my own tour as soon as it happened, 0:07:12.240 --> 0:07:15.800 like the Pandemic hit, and just so much live money 0:07:15.800 --> 0:07:18.840 taking away from everybody, so much live money, especially someone 0:07:18.920 --> 0:07:20.600 like Baby who was about to have a crazy festival 0:07:20.680 --> 0:07:23.680 run for so yeah Baby, no Baby gonna make that 0:07:23.720 --> 0:07:27.160 money regardless, Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, so yeah, I 0:07:27.200 --> 0:07:29.080 mean I think that that's also a dope thing. It's 0:07:29.200 --> 0:07:31.280 like a lot of people have taken advantage of the 0:07:31.320 --> 0:07:34.200 fact during the pandemic, like and just have been dropping 0:07:34.320 --> 0:07:37.119 even more music than they usually would, because it's almost 0:07:37.200 --> 0:07:39.440 like you got to make up for the lost bread, 0:07:39.520 --> 0:07:41.240 Like why sit on the music people? I feel like 0:07:41.320 --> 0:07:43.480 now right now people are listening to music more than ever, 0:07:43.480 --> 0:07:45.880 and they're listening to it differently, if that makes sense exactly. 0:07:46.000 --> 0:07:48.400 I guess they appreciate it more. It ain't nothing else 0:07:48.400 --> 0:07:53.840 to do but make music. Yeah, eight or three legend 0:07:55.000 --> 0:07:59.760 South Carolina. You're from Columbia. Columbia, Yep, that's where Charlamage 0:07:59.760 --> 0:08:03.480 started his radio career, right, yeah, first early on he was. 0:08:03.840 --> 0:08:05.320 I don't know if that's where he necessarily started, but 0:08:05.560 --> 0:08:07.760 I thank you from on like something to South Carolina 0:08:07.880 --> 0:08:10.520 or something like that, Monk's Corner something. Yeah, I think 0:08:10.560 --> 0:08:13.600 that's close to something Charleston. It's about Charleston. Maybe he 0:08:13.640 --> 0:08:17.120 was in Charleston, not yeah, Charleston, but yeah, he most 0:08:17.120 --> 0:08:21.240 definitely was. He got ties in Colombia for so. Yeah. Yeah, 0:08:21.560 --> 0:08:25.000 I was just talking to Carter about kind of like 0:08:25.040 --> 0:08:29.120 the Carolinas in general, being they're such an important part 0:08:29.160 --> 0:08:34.160 of rappers careers. That we don't even acknowledge because of 0:08:34.200 --> 0:08:36.440 all the radio stations that are in both of those states. 0:08:37.280 --> 0:08:40.520 And it's almost like you can't really find an artist 0:08:41.000 --> 0:08:48.880 that has really popped like without having that region on lock. Yeah. Yeah, 0:08:48.960 --> 0:08:53.280 And it's crazy because like like the Carolinas there, you know, 0:08:53.360 --> 0:08:57.120 they'll go crazy like when like anybody else come, but 0:08:57.200 --> 0:08:59.000 it's like it's it's kind of weird, like when you're 0:08:59.040 --> 0:09:01.640 from there. I guess it's it's like that everywhere. Yeah, 0:09:01.640 --> 0:09:03.679 I don't really use that as excuse, but most definitely, 0:09:03.679 --> 0:09:06.640 like Carolina would be one of the first places where 0:09:06.640 --> 0:09:09.120 all the people come and make their money for so 0:09:09.280 --> 0:09:11.440 because they're gonna they're gonna book them, the promoter's gonna 0:09:11.440 --> 0:09:14.080 book them, and people gonna show up and go crazy 0:09:14.080 --> 0:09:16.760 for them. What do you how do you compare North 0:09:16.800 --> 0:09:19.360 Carolina versus South Carolina? Is it? Like, what's the big difference? 0:09:19.800 --> 0:09:23.360 If any like no Carolina a little bit more kind 0:09:23.360 --> 0:09:26.640 of advanced, Like we don't even got no NFL team, 0:09:27.320 --> 0:09:31.040 Like the biggest I just claimed the Panthers because Carolina, Yes, 0:09:31.120 --> 0:09:33.880 Carolina Panthers the street. So that's all we got in it. 0:09:34.160 --> 0:09:38.280 Only thing like Columbia got is like the game Cocks, 0:09:38.400 --> 0:09:40.840 like the US. I remember seeing those hats as a 0:09:40.920 --> 0:09:44.880 kid and it would just say cox on it, and 0:09:44.920 --> 0:09:48.320 I'd be like, Yo, fam, what is going on? What 0:09:48.360 --> 0:09:51.120 is this? Yeah? Yeah, I'd be at the lids and 0:09:51.160 --> 0:09:52.760 it'd be a hat to just said cox on it. 0:09:52.840 --> 0:09:54.520 I'd be like, bro, what the fuck? Oh this South 0:09:54.520 --> 0:09:57.120 Carolina game Cocks. They should put the whole thing on there. 0:09:57.320 --> 0:10:07.840 That's so crazy. It is, so you aligning yourself with UH, 0:10:07.880 --> 0:10:11.480 with Carter and Arnold and those guys, what point in 0:10:11.520 --> 0:10:15.520 time did you sign Because you were making noise prior 0:10:15.559 --> 0:10:17.960 to that, obviously, but at what point in time did 0:10:18.000 --> 0:10:22.240 you make that affiliation official? I'd say about I've been 0:10:22.280 --> 0:10:26.280 signed like the SMC as far as like probably like 0:10:26.320 --> 0:10:28.880 a year and a half. So yeah, it's something like that. 0:10:29.120 --> 0:10:30.560 So it's been a while. I think it's dope. I 0:10:30.600 --> 0:10:31.960 was just telling Carter this. I was like, Yo, the 0:10:32.000 --> 0:10:35.360 fact that like all of the artists over there are 0:10:35.360 --> 0:10:39.160 from the Carolinas. Yeah, it's so special. See, I think 0:10:39.200 --> 0:10:41.560 on a planet that shit. Like, I think he just 0:10:41.559 --> 0:10:44.160 wanted like all his artists to be from Carolina, whether 0:10:44.200 --> 0:10:46.840 it's South and North Carolina, Like he wants all his 0:10:47.000 --> 0:10:49.680 artists to be from Carolina. Yeah, because if you're in 0:10:49.720 --> 0:10:51.960 his position, you could sign anybody. Yeah, yeah he can, 0:10:52.080 --> 0:10:54.800 and anybody probably be with him to sign. Yeah. And 0:10:54.920 --> 0:10:57.840 now it's like just the fact he's that there's just 0:10:57.880 --> 0:11:02.160 such an intentional effort to put on the Carolina is 0:11:02.160 --> 0:11:05.960 a special bro Like I think it's super dope. Now, 0:11:06.160 --> 0:11:09.160 you're obviously you obviously have a lot of money that 0:11:09.280 --> 0:11:15.200 might not necessarily be rap money. What like, what would 0:11:15.240 --> 0:11:20.440 you you know, there's up and cooming artists who make 0:11:20.480 --> 0:11:24.240 mistakes who you know, yeah, got one foot in, one 0:11:24.240 --> 0:11:26.880 foot out, you know what I'm saying. Like, you seem 0:11:26.920 --> 0:11:29.120 to be doing very well for yourself, and you seem 0:11:29.120 --> 0:11:30.960 to be fully entrenched in the rap game now. But 0:11:31.000 --> 0:11:33.319 what would be some advice you would give to some 0:11:33.679 --> 0:11:35.440 up and coming artists that might be watching this that 0:11:35.559 --> 0:11:37.679 might kind of, you know, still have one foot in 0:11:37.679 --> 0:11:39.440 the streets one foot out, Like you know what I'm saying, 0:11:39.480 --> 0:11:43.360 Like what basically I tell them just invest their money, 0:11:43.400 --> 0:11:45.960 like don't be cheap, like you know what I'm saying, 0:11:46.000 --> 0:11:49.120 don't be like if you're gonna do the rap, like, 0:11:49.160 --> 0:11:53.920 you gotta put like at least ninety in that shit, 0:11:54.520 --> 0:11:57.199 you seem like reinvest your own money into your wrap. Yeah, 0:11:57.240 --> 0:11:59.959 put your money, like reinvest your money into your career, 0:12:00.160 --> 0:12:02.360 like because you got to show people that you said 0:12:02.640 --> 0:12:06.320 before they even willing to put money into you. Like 0:12:06.400 --> 0:12:10.079 most people like be like they'll go buy some cushion, 0:12:10.160 --> 0:12:12.160 not even want to go pay for studio times and 0:12:12.200 --> 0:12:13.960 shit like that, like that shit be backwards, but they 0:12:14.280 --> 0:12:16.520 want to. Yeah, they'll go buy a five hundreds a 0:12:16.559 --> 0:12:19.840 belt or get a whole Goddamn. That's when I realized, 0:12:19.880 --> 0:12:23.000 like I was doing ship backwards. Like when I realized, 0:12:23.040 --> 0:12:25.320 I was like, hold up, man, I got like on 0:12:25.760 --> 0:12:29.000 four five thousand dollars outfit and I'm I'm getting a 0:12:29.080 --> 0:12:32.120 thousand dollars video. Man I No, I got to flip 0:12:32.160 --> 0:12:34.439 that around. Yeah, Like that's if I'm willing to spend 0:12:34.480 --> 0:12:36.880 this on close, I gotta be willing to spend double 0:12:36.920 --> 0:12:39.120 that on something to take my music career to the 0:12:39.160 --> 0:12:42.280 video to the next level and exactly like but shit, 0:12:42.320 --> 0:12:46.360 people don't be understanding that, But shit, they'll figure it out. 0:12:46.600 --> 0:12:49.240 Who's the first big name or big artists that we 0:12:49.320 --> 0:12:51.319 might know that like gave you a co sign early 0:12:51.360 --> 0:12:58.640 on like PB of Young Dog that's the realist, bro. Yeah, 0:12:58.840 --> 0:13:02.360 always silid. What year is that? That probably was like 0:13:02.400 --> 0:13:07.960 two thousand and fifteen, fourteen, probably sooner than probably earlier 0:13:08.000 --> 0:13:09.800 than that. I can't really remember, but because I had 0:13:09.840 --> 0:13:12.840 did a song with him a long time ago. But 0:13:13.559 --> 0:13:15.880 you know, I was like on some young ship still 0:13:15.960 --> 0:13:18.160 one foot in, one foot out. So you know, he 0:13:18.160 --> 0:13:20.520 probably did a song with millions of people, but he 0:13:20.600 --> 0:13:24.400 probably like what I'm thinking happening is with me? Keep 0:13:24.440 --> 0:13:27.480 going up like I kept going, And we ran into 0:13:27.559 --> 0:13:29.559 each other again, and he was like, damn, that's like 0:13:29.600 --> 0:13:32.000 a different conversation. Different They were like, damn, that's a 0:13:32.040 --> 0:13:34.160 little buddy who you know what I'm saying. Because back 0:13:34.200 --> 0:13:36.800 then I paid him for the verse. Yeah, y'all catch 0:13:36.840 --> 0:13:38.400 him out for the I paid him in all fives 0:13:38.440 --> 0:13:41.320 and teens, like trap money, so he already knew like 0:13:41.840 --> 0:13:43.920 back then, so when we ran into each other again, 0:13:43.960 --> 0:13:45.880 he was like, damn, he's still grinding. And what was 0:13:46.000 --> 0:13:49.400 what was the ticket on the dolphers? Then I think, like, 0:13:49.559 --> 0:13:52.360 I think I paid like eight thousand, and then I 0:13:52.360 --> 0:13:54.440 paid him another team for the video though you gotta 0:13:54.440 --> 0:13:56.640 double up for the video. Yeah, yeah, I paid the 0:13:56.679 --> 0:13:58.439 team I was like fucking like. I used to love 0:13:58.520 --> 0:14:00.880 like giving the I used to look at everybody like 0:14:00.960 --> 0:14:03.080 rapt niggas, but now I'm a raper. I hate when 0:14:03.120 --> 0:14:04.800 somebody call me a rot nick because I feel like 0:14:04.880 --> 0:14:07.880 kind of like you're trying to discredit somebody. But just 0:14:07.880 --> 0:14:09.640 caut a niggas be rapping like that mean they don't 0:14:09.640 --> 0:14:12.400 mean they ain't solid. Most of these niggas some of 0:14:12.440 --> 0:14:18.439 them solid, not all of them. But obviously coming from 0:14:18.480 --> 0:14:22.320 your background, talk about what's the biggest L you've taken 0:14:22.320 --> 0:14:27.400 in the streets. Man? You know everyone's I mean not everyone, 0:14:27.400 --> 0:14:29.720 but you know, dabbling that world. You know that sometimes 0:14:29.760 --> 0:14:31.400 you take it l. Sometimes the package you get lost 0:14:31.440 --> 0:14:33.680 in the mail or so you know, whatever it is. 0:14:34.040 --> 0:14:37.560 One time, shit, I lost like two hundred and fift thousands. 0:14:37.760 --> 0:14:40.120 Shit this year I lost like one eighty, but I 0:14:40.160 --> 0:14:43.040 don't I don't trip about it. So you lost two 0:14:43.080 --> 0:14:46.680 hundred and fifty thousand one time at one time? What 0:14:46.680 --> 0:14:48.840 what can give us as much of the circumstances you 0:14:48.840 --> 0:14:51.560 can give us without snitching on yourself. I mean, just 0:14:51.720 --> 0:14:56.520 sin lost it got lost. He got lost. I guess 0:14:56.800 --> 0:14:58.920 you know what I'm saying. But we got to say 0:14:58.920 --> 0:15:01.280 it back from people don't want to you complain. Yeah, 0:15:01.360 --> 0:15:03.000 bounce it back from a two hundred and fifty thousand 0:15:03.000 --> 0:15:07.040 dollars L bros. That's that's rough. How did you like 0:15:07.040 --> 0:15:09.480 the one eighty this year? What was that same situation? 0:15:10.640 --> 0:15:15.360 Some it's some some other shit. That's some man, I got. 0:15:15.360 --> 0:15:18.240 Someone broke into my car this year. Yeah, it took 0:15:18.280 --> 0:15:20.520 fifteen thousand in cash out of my trunk. Bro while 0:15:20.560 --> 0:15:23.080 I was in a notary. Yeah, that that shit hurt. 0:15:23.360 --> 0:15:25.720 It hit different though you don't. I'll be looking at it. 0:15:25.880 --> 0:15:28.280 I don't care if I lose a thousand or one 0:15:28.400 --> 0:15:31.960 hundred thousand. That shit still hit the same. Yeah, especially 0:15:32.080 --> 0:15:35.560 someone takes it from you. If you want to kill somebody, yeah, 0:15:35.720 --> 0:15:39.560 like God damn. Like, but I guess you know, bigger 0:15:39.600 --> 0:15:41.920 risk uff the reward. But one thing about me was 0:15:41.920 --> 0:15:44.800 like when I always lose that type of money, like 0:15:45.040 --> 0:15:47.880 even when you know, because my mom and my mom recaul, 0:15:48.200 --> 0:15:50.920 I tell my mom done everything, but my mom will 0:15:50.920 --> 0:15:53.240 be like, man, every time, you always bounce back from it, 0:15:53.440 --> 0:15:55.920 and I always like I lost. I remember I took 0:15:56.000 --> 0:16:01.280 a big here. Then that's when on the call me, 0:16:01.360 --> 0:16:02.640 it was like in the scope I want to sign 0:16:03.280 --> 0:16:05.840 and he told me to know. Yeah, so every time 0:16:05.880 --> 0:16:07.840 I always take a loss, our bounce back from it, 0:16:07.960 --> 0:16:10.800 like God to bless me was way bigger than what 0:16:10.840 --> 0:16:12.360 I lost. It's like you took the l and then 0:16:12.440 --> 0:16:15.040 then you signed an interscope right after exactly like you 0:16:15.040 --> 0:16:17.080 know what, I ain't even dripping, And that was one 0:16:17.080 --> 0:16:19.880 of the biggest losses I ever took in like like 0:16:20.160 --> 0:16:23.680 I always probably lost like a little thirty here here, yeah, yeah, 0:16:23.720 --> 0:16:25.720 but that was the biggest loss. And then right after that, 0:16:25.800 --> 0:16:28.040 I'll say, like a week later and I had a show, 0:16:28.240 --> 0:16:31.880 like when it happened, I had a show in Virginia. Man, 0:16:31.960 --> 0:16:33.520 I was about to go home, like I ain't even 0:16:33.600 --> 0:16:35.640 want to do this. Just fuck up your whole fucking 0:16:35.680 --> 0:16:38.080 move man, that shit, fuck your whole vibe, like we 0:16:38.200 --> 0:16:41.560 got girls in all around. I'm like, man, fuck the hells, 0:16:41.640 --> 0:16:44.120 Like I ain't even thinking about this shit, yo, what's crazy? 0:16:44.200 --> 0:16:46.680 Is Like the reason why I really really resonated with 0:16:46.720 --> 0:16:49.080 Babies music early on was because I felt like he 0:16:49.160 --> 0:16:52.160 did such a good job of talking about selling weed, 0:16:53.360 --> 0:16:54.800 like the packs and shit, you know what I'm saying, 0:16:54.840 --> 0:16:57.400 Like I fact, like, man, I'm talking about even before 0:16:57.400 --> 0:16:59.800 that obviously he sugar is huge. But even before that, 0:16:59.880 --> 0:17:02.280 like like I was like, yeah, I've never heard anybody 0:17:02.360 --> 0:17:05.440 rap about selling weeds that I could relate to more 0:17:05.440 --> 0:17:08.520 than like burner, you know, something like that. But but 0:17:08.560 --> 0:17:10.879 he would. But baby told me that he used to 0:17:10.880 --> 0:17:15.560 sell the He would used to vacuum seal up rabbit food. 0:17:15.960 --> 0:17:20.879 This game, right, which is dangerous. You get caught slipping. 0:17:21.560 --> 0:17:23.800 Did you ever dabble in any sort of that? Nah? 0:17:23.840 --> 0:17:26.040 I ain't never did. I did straight up business. I 0:17:26.040 --> 0:17:28.399 ain't never like I ain't really been into that world, 0:17:28.480 --> 0:17:31.840 like not knocking somebody who do it, But nah, I 0:17:31.880 --> 0:17:34.439 do straight up business. I ain't never really had the 0:17:34.520 --> 0:17:37.080 robbing for this. Yeah, because I was like, damn, bro, 0:17:37.240 --> 0:17:41.280 like I'm glad you're still here. Yeah, he made it 0:17:41.320 --> 0:17:43.119 through it because that kind of ship man, you you 0:17:43.280 --> 0:17:45.399 sells that rabbit food of the wrong people. It's they 0:17:45.520 --> 0:17:47.879 gonna kiy in South Carolina. I don't know about No Carolina, 0:17:48.040 --> 0:17:49.720 but you would have got you asked about it even 0:17:49.920 --> 0:17:53.760 right now, especially how big you is. It wouldn't work. 0:17:53.920 --> 0:17:55.800 I saw some where it said that you were the 0:17:55.880 --> 0:17:59.679 richest rapper in South Carolina. Man. The craziest thing is 0:17:59.720 --> 0:18:03.199 I ain't don't even name myself that, like the like 0:18:03.240 --> 0:18:07.080 the people was comming that like way back, just commenting 0:18:07.119 --> 0:18:10.359 on my Instagram. So I made it a song. And 0:18:10.400 --> 0:18:13.000 ever since I made a song, like that's when everybody's 0:18:13.000 --> 0:18:15.600 just been calling me that shit. But ain't nobody never 0:18:15.720 --> 0:18:19.639 challenged it. So like fucking financially, do you do you 0:18:19.760 --> 0:18:21.680 like to dabble in any sort of like real estate 0:18:21.720 --> 0:18:24.600 investing businesses, like like you got like I mean, you 0:18:24.600 --> 0:18:27.120 know you got a lot of fucking jewelry. Yeah, dang, 0:18:27.400 --> 0:18:30.400 that's a that's just like really for trophies and shit. 0:18:30.480 --> 0:18:33.639 But like I do real estate, like we got smoke shops. 0:18:33.640 --> 0:18:36.560 I'm about to open a restaurant restaurant for like my family. 0:18:37.000 --> 0:18:40.399 But I just built my crib like like from a dirt. 0:18:40.880 --> 0:18:43.680 I built it like it's just from the mud, And 0:18:44.040 --> 0:18:46.639 like always that was always a goal for me, like 0:18:46.680 --> 0:18:49.240 the I want to build a house. So you know 0:18:49.280 --> 0:18:51.760 what I'm saying, I be into that type shit like 0:18:51.840 --> 0:18:53.760 real estate, like I ain't no fool, Like I ain't 0:18:53.840 --> 0:18:57.680 just doing like buying Jerry doing dumb shit like that. 0:18:57.920 --> 0:18:59.760 Was there ever anything you bought that you regretted buying? 0:18:59.840 --> 0:19:02.600 Like like immediately after like something that was just like 0:19:02.640 --> 0:19:07.000 fuck man, what did I just do? Like No, I 0:19:07.000 --> 0:19:11.920 can't really think that off here, like saying something I regret. No, 0:19:12.280 --> 0:19:15.719 I can't really think how is how's your experience been 0:19:15.720 --> 0:19:18.520 so far with the Interscope situation. It's been cool, Like 0:19:18.560 --> 0:19:21.200 you know, it's still like it's a real good umbrella, 0:19:21.320 --> 0:19:24.119 you know, and a good machine to have with you. 0:19:24.480 --> 0:19:26.400 But it's like it's still on the artist. It's still 0:19:26.400 --> 0:19:29.520 on you. You still got to hat yourself up. Yeah, exactly. 0:19:29.600 --> 0:19:31.399 You know what I'm saying. I feel like, you know, 0:19:31.480 --> 0:19:34.639 a label know how to take something that's it's already 0:19:34.640 --> 0:19:36.480 moving and make it, Yeah, make it bigger than life. 0:19:37.119 --> 0:19:39.920 But you know, I signed my dial for different reasons, 0:19:39.920 --> 0:19:42.000 so you know what I'm saying, Like, I still I 0:19:42.040 --> 0:19:44.000 come from the independent game, so I just know how 0:19:44.000 --> 0:19:47.840 to I'm still move around independently like I ain't ain't 0:19:47.880 --> 0:19:50.359 with a major. Yeah. Plus that you got all your 0:19:50.359 --> 0:19:52.680 independent catalog, it's gonna keep going up, you know. Yeah, 0:19:52.800 --> 0:19:54.280 And that's a good thing they did for me too. 0:19:54.359 --> 0:19:57.640 They they let me keep all that shit. That's important 0:19:58.000 --> 0:20:02.399 because you become you know, baby or whoever, like depending 0:20:02.400 --> 0:20:06.280 analog gonna go crazy forever exactly. That's dope, man, So 0:20:06.320 --> 0:20:08.320 eight or three legend? Who else? Can you kind of 0:20:08.320 --> 0:20:10.760 give us a breakdown of like the hip hop scene 0:20:10.800 --> 0:20:15.199 in South Carolina specifically, because I feel like, like you 0:20:15.240 --> 0:20:17.400 were saying earlier a little bit like it's almost harder 0:20:17.440 --> 0:20:20.320 to like get support from your own people until you 0:20:20.359 --> 0:20:23.520 start popping. Then everybody want to come and jump on see, 0:20:23.560 --> 0:20:27.000 not like people fuck with me in Carolina like nofen South. 0:20:27.080 --> 0:20:29.120 But at first it was like I used to feel 0:20:29.160 --> 0:20:31.679 like I was it was me against everybody, but you know, 0:20:31.920 --> 0:20:35.800