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Speaker 1: Paul Calvci. Welcome to July, otherwise known as the last

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Speaker 1: month of freedom for Paul and others. Here at the

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Speaker 1: Dignity Health Arizona Cardinals Training Center, Holly veterans report to

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Speaker 1: training camp in exactly three weeks. Craig, did you know

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Speaker 1: that Americans typically one hundred and fifty million hot dogs

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Speaker 1: one holiday for beer sales in the US according to

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Speaker 1: the National Beer Wholesale Association. And I can only anticipate

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Speaker 1: you now saying that you put a dense into that

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Speaker 1: Yes I did. Indeed, I can't confirm as much sources

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Speaker 1: in a Seats training Camp. Yes, it is right around

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Speaker 1: the corner. And there are questions. There are big questions,

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Speaker 1: big big questions, and there might even be a few

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Speaker 1: concerns as well. The biggest question that fans want to know, Paul,

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Speaker 1: is Kyler Murray going to be getting that contract extension

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Speaker 1: prior to veterans reporting to training camp or does it

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Speaker 1: drama surrounding this team when they report to State Farmstead.

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Speaker 1: You just can't keep it simple, can't. You cannot just

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Speaker 1: ask the question will he get the contract or not

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Speaker 1: he will? The question is when and how much, and

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Speaker 1: to that we don't have an exact answer now, Dowey, Now,

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Speaker 1: if you were to tell me that on the EVA

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Speaker 1: on July twenty six, and somewhere on July twenty fifth,

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Speaker 1: or maybe on the twenty six itself, there's a big

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Speaker 1: the largest and franchise history. Sure, i'd believe that. However,

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Speaker 1: as to a timetable. It should. I should sort of

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Speaker 1: We're not sending a sort of precedence to let it

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Speaker 1: But as history has shown us Buddha Baker contract extension

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Speaker 1: We talked about concerns, and it is for me, Paul,

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Speaker 1: Vinks will fork probably close to four hundred pounds. So

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Speaker 1: these are the type of freaks you get on the nose.

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Speaker 1: You have to worry about all that. You have to

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Speaker 1: be stout at the point of attack. And then, oh,

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Speaker 1: by the way, Kyler is primarily in the gun, and

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Speaker 1: we saw last year minus Rodney Hudson, there were some

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Speaker 1: snaps that went awry and all of a sudden you

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Speaker 1: get just a bit outside and that snap, all of

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Speaker 1: a sudden, it discombobulates the entire play. If it gets

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Speaker 1: you behind the sticks, it can snuff out an entire drive.

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Speaker 1: So it is a big deal. This whole center position. Now,

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Speaker 1: does this mean that maybe Rodney Hudson is looking for

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Speaker 1: more money because he realizes the value of a center.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, justin few you can hear there it's

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Speaker 1: almost negotiating and saying, you know what, if I am

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Speaker 1: the center, maybe I deserve a little more money, because

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Speaker 1: that's how demanding the position is. Well. Right now, Hudson

446
00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:24,080
Speaker 1: is the only offensive lineman, starting offensive lineman under contract

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Speaker 1: for next season, let alone, we're talking about this season

448
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Speaker 1: and hey, going into the draft, Steve Kim said, And

449
00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:31,600
Speaker 1: he wasn't even really asked about it. He just brought

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Speaker 1: up on his own his newfound appreciation for the center

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Speaker 1: position after watching Rodney Hudson last year, to the point

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Speaker 1: where he would consider taking a center in round one

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Speaker 1: of a draft going forward, whereas before he probably would

454
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Speaker 1: not have. That's how much he's learned to appreciate the

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Speaker 1: center spot. And this is coming from a guy who

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Speaker 1: played offensive line. Hopefully it's a question that gets answered

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Speaker 1: sooner rather than later, as in like right now, like

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Speaker 1: sooner before everyone reports to State Farm Stadium and the

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Speaker 1: start of training camp. Arizona Cardinals season tickets are available now.

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Speaker 1: Hit your seats any seats here on the Arizona Cardinals

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Speaker 1: Radio network hands it off, no running room, off the

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Speaker 1: right side and back of loss up two on the play.

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Speaker 1: Saban Collins the first guy there, and that is a

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Speaker 1: big man coming down from the week's side, shooting the gap.

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Speaker 1: Saban Collins again throws over the middle, tipped into the

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Speaker 1: air and in complained he was going for his tight

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Speaker 1: end pass was off the mark. Xavan Collins at coverage

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Speaker 1: that time and it's fourth down. Saban Collins bats that

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Speaker 1: fall into the air with all of that great length.

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Speaker 1: Use check in motion. It is a quarterback drop the middle.

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Speaker 1: Lance's head drives the legs forward, gonna be close. The

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Speaker 1: forty nine ers a short Savan Collins with the tackle.

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Speaker 1: Savan Collins, the rookie at two sixty playing downhill, came

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Speaker 1: in and laid some lumber baby well. As we continue

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Speaker 1: the question portion of the Cardinals Red Seat Report presented

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Speaker 1: by sea keep getting your seats in a seat. I'm

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Speaker 1: not sure, Paul, if it's the biggest question of the defense,

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Speaker 1: but maybe individually there is no player on that defense

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Speaker 1: who has a bigger question mark next to their name

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Speaker 1: than Savan Collins, the Cardinals first round draft pick who

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Speaker 1: did not see a lot of playing time in year one. Well,

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Speaker 1: we could have that debate. It would be a legitimate

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Speaker 1: debate as to the biggest question on defense. If you're

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Speaker 1: talking about the guy they hope will be calling the defense,

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Speaker 1: making all the checks, replacing the guy who played the

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Speaker 1: most defensive snaps of anyone on that defensive you're agoing

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Speaker 1: Jordan Hicks, and oh, by the way, was your second

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Speaker 1: leading tackler and voted a team captain. That's the sort

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Speaker 1: respect he had in that locker room, and is known

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Speaker 1: as a high football IQ kind of guy. Those are

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Speaker 1: some big cleats to fill, no doubt, if you're saving

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Speaker 1: Collins and you figure he's gonna get every single imaginable

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Speaker 1: chance as a first round pick. But if Vance Joseph

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Speaker 1: can't trust him out there, he will not see the field.

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Speaker 1: And we saw that a year ago. We've seen that

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Speaker 1: with other players, obviously rookies or otherwise. If you don't

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Speaker 1: earn the trust to these coaches, they're not willing to

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Speaker 1: risk a big play touchdown, gifting an offensive touchdown because

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Speaker 1: you made a mental error. The Jordan Hicks obstacle is

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Speaker 1: out the way. Now it falls on Zavan's shoulders, and

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Speaker 1: he's got broad shoulders six four two sixty. He is

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Speaker 1: measurably he is a better player than a Jordan Hicks

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Speaker 1: and Greig. You know, you stand next to guy like

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Speaker 1: this guy plays middle linebacker? Are you kidding me? He

507
00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:55,280
Speaker 1: is enormous and he moves and you realize why he

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Speaker 1: was taking sixteenth overall because he has the skill set.

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Speaker 1: He has those measures. The question is does he have

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Speaker 1: the intangibles, because you need those to be out there.

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Speaker 1: You can be as athletic as any linebacker in the world,

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Speaker 1: but if you take a false step the wrong way

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Speaker 1: and now you're behind the play, you're never the guard

514
00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:16,639
Speaker 1: will be on you with a block. You will be

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Speaker 1: impeded from getting to the ball carrier. Luke Keikley, Luke Keikley,

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Speaker 1: who was I mean just a generational inside linebacker, yeah,

517
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Speaker 1: yead athleticism, yeah yeah, the physical side of the game.

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Speaker 1: But he was so intuitive. The reason to Larry Foote

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Speaker 1: was able to play until age fifty eight on the

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Speaker 1: Cardinals defense was because he could anticipate and he used

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Speaker 1: those instincts. At the end of his career, when he

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Speaker 1: didn't have the athleticism. So if you can get the

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Speaker 1: combination of what he brings physically and then get him

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Speaker 1: to the point mentally where is able to seek and

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Speaker 1: destroy and really discern some of these plays, well, now

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Speaker 1: you have a guy that could be the epicenter of

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Speaker 1: your defense. React. Don't think ye know where you're supposed

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Speaker 1: to be once that offense has and if there's some motion,

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Speaker 1: some movement, you are now able to react to that.

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Speaker 1: And then if he is calling the defense, and that

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Speaker 1: can be a totally other conversation. He just needs to

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Speaker 1: be on the football field. Find a spot for him

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Speaker 1: to play as a first round draft pick. But if

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Speaker 1: he is calling that defense, now all of a sudden,

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Speaker 1: not only does he have to know where he's supposed

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Speaker 1: to be, but get everyone else where they're supposed to be.

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Speaker 1: And you know, maybe he's not that guy to start

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Speaker 1: the year. Maybe it's a Nick Vigil, Maybe it's a

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Speaker 1: Buddha Baker who might be calling the defense. And I

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Speaker 1: had this argument with Wolf and we hashed it out.

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Speaker 1: I said, you know, that wouldn't be the end of

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Speaker 1: the world to me. As long as he's on the field,

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Speaker 1: As long as he's one of those eleven and he's

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Speaker 1: going sideline to sideline or he's just bomb rushing through

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Speaker 1: the amp gaps and stuff in the run. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you got to run defense. At a year ago there

547
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Speaker 1: were there were five games where they allowed one hundred

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Speaker 1: and fifty yards rushing or more. So the run defense

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Speaker 1: needs to improve. He needs to be part of that solution.

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Speaker 1: He can't be part of the problem. If he is,

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Speaker 1: then he's not on the field. Well, you need to

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Speaker 1: receive a return on investment in order. In other words,

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00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:06,400
Speaker 1: snaps defensive snaps. He was only talking about Zaven Collins

554
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Speaker 1: only on the field for twenty percent of the defensive

555
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Speaker 1: snaps Hicks ninety seven, Simmons ninety two. And it was

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Speaker 1: who else was on the field as well, Craig, When

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Speaker 1: you're there in the last half of the season and

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Speaker 1: a Tanner Vallejo is getting snaps over your first round rookie,

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Speaker 1: when a Joe Walker off the street was getting snaps

560
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Speaker 1: instead of your first round rookie. Now, how much of

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Speaker 1: that had to do with the shoulder injury that he suffered.

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Speaker 1: How ready was he to go? He mentioned himself he

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Speaker 1: had had a couple of bad practices which didn't help

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Speaker 1: his bid for playing time in the second half of

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Speaker 1: the year. And maybe he's trying to compensate for the

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Speaker 1: shoulder injury. Nobody truly knows exactly what was involved, but

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Speaker 1: you did see other players ahead of him not named

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Speaker 1: Jordan Hicks. Well, let's hear from Zaven Collins on exactly

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Speaker 1: what he went through his rookie season. Obviously, you know

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Speaker 1: last year didn't go as you know everyone would want.

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Speaker 1: But that's that's part of life, just learning from those mistakes,

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Speaker 1: applying to now and trying to get better, which I have.

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Speaker 1: I think that I've done a really good job in

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Speaker 1: some of the areas that I've messed up as far

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Speaker 1: as you know, mental errors or you know, stuff like that.

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Speaker 1: He has the right mindset, Paul, which you like. Now

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Speaker 1: it's okay, we need to see it much like we

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Speaker 1: did with Isaiah Simmons from year one two year two

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Speaker 1: and that jump. Now two different players as far as

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Speaker 1: what they're asked to do as an inside linebacker, but

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Speaker 1: we always talk about that jump from rookie year to

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Speaker 1: year to regardless of position. Zaven Collins now needs to

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Speaker 1: follow suits and be Isaiah Simmons. This year. He has

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Speaker 1: the work ethic. Okay, we know that many people have

585
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Speaker 1: told stories him coming in early, staying late, working with

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Speaker 1: the Jordan Hicks, who was actually giving up his time

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Speaker 1: a year ago. One of the reasons he had the

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Speaker 1: respect of everyone in that locker room. They drafted a

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Speaker 1: guy to replace him, and he's still given him an

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Speaker 1: extra time before practices advanced Joseph inside linebackers coach Bill

591
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Speaker 1: Davis working with him after practice. He has the work ethic.

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Speaker 1: He also, you know, I think if you look at

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Speaker 1: the passion for the game, you know he wants to

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Speaker 1: be good. He's not in denial. He needs he realizes

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Speaker 1: he needs the improvement. He needs to work and so

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Speaker 1: all that is there. Now the question, to your point, Canny,

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00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:16,360
Speaker 1: navigate that learning curve and make that jump from year

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Speaker 1: one to year two. And there is an expectation not

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Speaker 1: only Isaiah Simmons, but Zavan Collins. These two were drafted

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Speaker 1: in back to back years to play a large part

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Speaker 1: of the defense, not just for this season, the upcoming seasons,

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Speaker 1: but maybe long term being those anchors in the middle

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Speaker 1: of the defense. Here is on Simmons and Collins, defensive

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Speaker 1: coordinator Van's Joseph. It's their time, you know. Isaiah's going

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Speaker 1: into his third years. Avan's going into a second year

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Speaker 1: to first round picks to have to help us, you know,

607
00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:48,000
Speaker 1: and it's heading that way. You know. I've been proud

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Speaker 1: of his Zaven, how much time he's put in. Isaiah

609
00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:52,520
Speaker 1: has always been a good worker, you know. It's the

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Speaker 1: next step for him. Obviously watching him last year, he

611
00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:57,360
Speaker 1: made plays, you know, but now he has to make

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Speaker 1: consistent plays and not give what play. You know, that's

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Speaker 1: this next challenge. And for Xavan to stand healthy and

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00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:07,120
Speaker 1: keep learning. But both guys are physically gifted, you know,

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00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:08,800
Speaker 1: so we have to get those guys ready to play

616
00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:12,320
Speaker 1: because we need them. The one big difference that those

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Speaker 1: two now have going into this year is a full offseason.

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Speaker 1: In other words, Isaiah Simmons didn't have it. He had

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Speaker 1: limited work, but now being able to utilize this quote

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Speaker 1: unquote free time if you will, not only during OTAs

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Speaker 1: a mini camp on the field and in the classroom,

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Speaker 1: going back and looking at film from last season, where

623
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Speaker 1: were the mistakes made, and then also highlight the positives

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Speaker 1: as well, this is what we liked. We need to

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Speaker 1: see more of this and whether it's fans, Joseph or

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Speaker 1: another coach, a position coach, or a teammate. These guys

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Speaker 1: need and they have been putting in the work. Now

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Speaker 1: it's just okay, Well, now you need to see a

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Speaker 1: reward for that work that gets put in. And only

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Speaker 1: the coaches know if the if a Xavan Collins, for example,

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Speaker 1: is regular season ready and how do you tell, look,

632
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:03,600
Speaker 1: the all season is great. Obviously, there's a lot of restrictions.

633
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Speaker 1: You get into training camp. You gotta go five practices

634
00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:08,680
Speaker 1: before you can even get in pads. So now, once

635
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Speaker 1: you get into training camp, you're going to I would

636
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:15,479
Speaker 1: presume ask Cliff Kingsbury to run some pretty advanced offense

637
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:18,120
Speaker 1: to see if your inside linebacker is ready, if he

638
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:21,000
Speaker 1: can really make those checks and mentally is he equipped

639
00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:23,080
Speaker 1: right now to handle it and call that defense, because

640
00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:24,760
Speaker 1: guess what, you're not going to see it in the

641
00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:28,400
Speaker 1: three preseason games. The opposing offenses will be running vanilla stuff.

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Speaker 1: It'll be nothing like the regular season. So you got

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Speaker 1: to make your determinations in practice at Cardinals camp is

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Speaker 1: he ready to go or not, and then structure your

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Speaker 1: defense accordingly for that opener Week one against oh By

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Speaker 1: the way, Patrick Mahomes in Kansas City. While you've got

647
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Speaker 1: the Chiefs, you got the Raiders, you got the Rams.

648
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Speaker 1: Those are your first three games out of the gates,

649
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Speaker 1: three very very capable offense. Think about the offensive coordinators

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Speaker 1: and the offensive minds you're going against if you're a

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Speaker 1: Zaving Collins and Andy Reid and Patrick Mahomes. Think about

652
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Speaker 1: Josh McDaniels and what he's going to bring to the Raiders,

653
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Speaker 1: and a lot of that is going to be an unknown.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know, Cliff Kingsbury advance Joe's are like, man,

655
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Speaker 1: what exactly is McDaniel's offense going to look like? Thank

656
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Speaker 1: goodness it's week two or not week one. And then

657
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Speaker 1: of course Sean McVeigh and we know what a Sean

658
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:16,440
Speaker 1: mcvayh offense can do to any defense. It's very advanced,

659
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:19,000
Speaker 1: and there's always going to be a ton of eye

660
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:22,719
Speaker 1: candy and distractions to mess with a young linebacker's eyes.

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Speaker 1: A large spotlight, A bright spotlights on both Collins and Simmons.

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Speaker 1: JJ Watts, a guest on The Day Pash podcast, asked

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Speaker 1: by hash about success for those two young inside linebackers.

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Speaker 1: I think it's all about time you put in and

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Speaker 1: I think it's about repetition and just consistency. I think

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Speaker 1: that the more time that you're able to commit to

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Speaker 1: the job and that you're able to learn and grow,

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00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:49,840
Speaker 1: and the more time that you have to learn the

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Speaker 1: playbook and the plays and see as many looks as possible,

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Speaker 1: whether it's walkthroughs, whether it's practice, whether it's offseason program,

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Speaker 1: training camp, whatever it may be. And being able to

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Speaker 1: do those things over and over and over again, that's

673
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Speaker 1: when you really get good. I think that having an

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Speaker 1: off season program is going to help him a lot,

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Speaker 1: because we haven't had one, a true off season program

676
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Speaker 1: for a few years, especially since they've been in the league.

677
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Speaker 1: So everything is trending in that direction. But going back

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Speaker 1: to what you mentioned earlier as we began this segment, Paul,

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Speaker 1: as far as okay, how long do you put those

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Speaker 1: two in position to make plays? If they're not making plays,

681
00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:25,759
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, the worry is, all right, yeah,

682
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:28,440
Speaker 1: they need to develop, they need reps. But I'm sorry,

683
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Speaker 1: we need to win this game. We need to win

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Speaker 1: games plural to get where we want to go as

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Speaker 1: a team. I'll give you two quick examples. Brandon Williams

686
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Speaker 1: season opener twenty sixteen, third round rookie corner out of Texas.

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Speaker 1: A and M had been a former running back, so

688
00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:46,560
Speaker 1: he was green. He was raw as a corner, unbelievably athletic.

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Speaker 1: He was on the field for that Jimmy g touchdown

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Speaker 1: pass to Chris Hogan. If I remember, that went the

691
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:56,120
Speaker 1: length of the field fifty yards plus. That cost the

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Speaker 1: Cardinals this season opening game, and Bruce Arians continue to

693
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:01,080
Speaker 1: cite that through the rest of the season to just

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Speaker 1: set things off on the wrong tone. Now go to

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Speaker 1: Isaiah Simmons debut twenty twenty in an empty Levi Stadium

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Speaker 1: in Santa Clara because of the pandemic, and he had

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Speaker 1: the wildfire and it's all smoky, it's surreal, and then

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Speaker 1: what happens. Raheem Mooster comes out of the backfield. I

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00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:17,080
Speaker 1: believe was rheem Mooster and it was the Niners running

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Speaker 1: back who boom on that wheel route. Smokes Isaiah Simmons,

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Speaker 1: who had a bit of a mental era there he gone.

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00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:26,279
Speaker 1: Cardinals got down early, came back won that opener. It

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00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:29,960
Speaker 1: was close, but that was costly. Two rookies in their

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Speaker 1: regular season debuts as a starter on defense and the offense.

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Speaker 1: It's a game of matchups. They targeted both guys to

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Speaker 1: great success. And for Simmons, it was a while before

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Speaker 1: we saw him consistently back on the field as a defense.

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Speaker 1: It's one thing again here is we talk about patients

709
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Speaker 1: in July. How patient can you be in September when

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Speaker 1: all of a sudden the lights are on for real

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Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, it's okay. We need these

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Speaker 1: games to make the playoffs. And that's why I think

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Speaker 1: that determination will be made at least midway through camp,

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Speaker 1: because the preseason games won't tell you much. They'll know

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Speaker 1: in camp and then go adjust accordingly, and we'll be

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Speaker 1: out there and the open portions of practice, everyone will

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Speaker 1: see what exactly is Zaven Collins being tasked to do well?

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Speaker 1: I'm burst down, wants to throw going deep looking for

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Speaker 1: Hollywood Brown and Zoe touched up Hollywood Crow surprise. He

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Speaker 1: is a guy that makes sense for a number of reasons.

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Speaker 1: Number one, two years of control costs, getting a dynamic

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Speaker 1: where he's played inside outside, Obviously, the chemistry with our quarterback.

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Speaker 1: I think, guy who can be a dynamic vertical thread,

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Speaker 1: which is something we were looking for as well as

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Speaker 1: I had a very strong feeling that the board was

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Speaker 1: going to fall the way it did, and I'm awfully

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Speaker 1: glad that we made this trade. Flashback April, just a

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Speaker 1: couple of months back, General manager Steve come watching how

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Speaker 1: the twenty twenty two NFL Draft unfolded six countum six

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Speaker 1: wide receivers off the board before the Cardinals were even

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Speaker 1: on the clock. But at that point, the Cardinals had

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Speaker 1: already sent their first round draft pick to Baltimore and

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Speaker 1: exchange for Hollywood Brown and Paul I am looking forward

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Speaker 1: to knowing what Brown can do for the Arizona Cardinals,

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Speaker 1: specifically those first six weeks when you do not have

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Speaker 1: DeAndrea Hopkins, and you might know when we look at

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Speaker 1: this in two ways, the first six games and then

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Speaker 1: all right now, what we all anticipated when the trade

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Speaker 1: was made. Hey hop on one side, Hollywood on the

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Speaker 1: other would do opposing defense to specifically secondaries do against

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Speaker 1: the Cardinals in picking number twenty three. I like the

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Speaker 1: fact you cited the draft because let's just say one

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Speaker 1: of those big six receivers had been there. Guess what

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Speaker 1: they wouldn't be plug and play like Hollywood Brown is

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Speaker 1: right now. Not only does he have three years in

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Speaker 1: the league, not only does he have a thousand yard

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Speaker 1: receiving season under his belt, but he also has history

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Speaker 1: with a quarterback to the point where they're in the

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Speaker 1: OTAs and they're already making eye can't contact and adjustments

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Speaker 1: and hand signals. I mean, this is ready to go,

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Speaker 1: which you absolutely need minus DeAndre Hopkins. Look at Treylon

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Speaker 1: Burke's right, the kid out of Arkansas who went to

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Speaker 1: the Titans not only has been missing OTAs with asthma issues,

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00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:43,919
Speaker 1: but he's been struggling mentally with the playbook. He's at

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Speaker 1: best their number three receiver for tennessee AJ Brown right now.

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Speaker 1: So you can't just go get a big time talent

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Speaker 1: in round one and think he's going to contribute immediately.

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Speaker 1: But guess what that is the case with a Hollywood

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00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:58,840
Speaker 1: Brown in this offense, the known versus the unknown and

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Speaker 1: a lot of people will go with the known, and

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Speaker 1: Hollywood Brown has improved his numbers every single season. Those

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Speaker 1: numbers are only expected to be better with Kyler Murray

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Speaker 1: as his quarterback. Brown, in facts on what we here

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Speaker 1: in Arizona can expect from him this season, spent a

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Speaker 1: lot of big plays. I mean, I played with a

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Speaker 1: lot of passion, a lot of excitement. I haven't even

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Speaker 1: showcase anything I really could do in the NFL. You

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Speaker 1: whatever the team hasked me to do, I'm gonna do.

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Speaker 1: And that's what I did in Baltimore. And you know,

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Speaker 1: I'm very excited the potential that I can I can

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Speaker 1: do in this offense. And he should be Paul because

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Speaker 1: he'll be featured in this offense. He was not featured

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Speaker 1: in Baltimore. Look, the Cardinals not only wanted Hollywood Brown.

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Speaker 1: Hollywood Brown wanted the Cardinals. He wanted this offense as

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Speaker 1: much as he respects Lamar Jackson in Baltimore, he wanted

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Speaker 1: out of that offense. Greg Roman's run first, second, and

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Speaker 1: third offense, and then after that, we're gonna get it

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Speaker 1: to the tight end. And then after that, Lamar Jackson's

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Speaker 1: gonna run it. Guess what he was far from their

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Speaker 1: first option, even though he was their number one receiver.

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Speaker 1: Now think a Hollywood Brown more targets. Think Hollywood Brown

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Speaker 1: getting more targets down the field. Think of Hollywood Brown

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Speaker 1: once DeAndre Hopkins gets back and gets that number one

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Speaker 1: receiver attention from the defense, which Hollywood Brown used to

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Speaker 1: get with Baltimore, and now all of a sudden, if

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Speaker 1: he's single covered, look out. The potential to unlock a

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Speaker 1: lot more production on Hollywood Brown is definitely there and

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Speaker 1: stretching the defense, getting that play, that big play when

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Speaker 1: you need it, the long ball, because that is where

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Speaker 1: Kyler Murray exels. He's one of the better, if not

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Speaker 1: the best, deep ball throwers in the league. And now

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Speaker 1: he's got not just a friend, but a best friend

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Speaker 1: on one side. Talking about Hollywood Brown head coach Cliff Kingsbury,

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Speaker 1: it's up to him to figure out a way for

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Speaker 1: Kyler and Hollywood to connect. Kingsbury on the big playability

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Speaker 1: of his new wide receiver. He can stretch the defense,

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Speaker 1: There's no doubt. Vertically, I mean, he can really roll.

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Speaker 1: He had a bunch of big plays last year, could

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Speaker 1: have had more. I felt like that's an aspect, you know,

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Speaker 1: having aj Rondo him, Guys that can stretch the field

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Speaker 1: from all angles going to be good for US eleven

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Speaker 1: touchdowns of twenty or more yards since twenty nineteen. That

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Speaker 1: is what Hollywood Brown has done. And they did that

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Speaker 1: with an offense that typically doesn't like to throw the

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Speaker 1: ball down the field. Imagine now, within this offense again,

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Speaker 1: how much do we see it in the first six

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Speaker 1: weeks versus the latter half of the season. Where's some

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Speaker 1: attention diverted away from number two? And look everything Christian

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Speaker 1: Kirk was and we all love Christian Kirk, he really

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Speaker 1: excelled as an inside receiver, as a slot receiver. Hollywood Brown,

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Speaker 1: by all accounts, is a legitimate outside receiver, so he

817
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Speaker 1: can use that speed in a much better way to

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Speaker 1: stretch that defense. It was so frustrating how many times

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Speaker 1: the last two years when the Cardinals offense would bog down.

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Speaker 1: A lot of times defense had the ability to run

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Speaker 1: two high safeties keep everything underneath. Just you know you're

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Speaker 1: not going to be able to do that. Now, if

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Speaker 1: a Hollywood Brown is able just to take a deep

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Speaker 1: from the outside angle and then underneath you have a zacher,

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Speaker 1: it's a Trey McBride and some of those drag routes.

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Speaker 1: Think of last year when Deander Hopkins was on the

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Speaker 1: field and how wide open zach Ertz was. So you

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Speaker 1: hope that has that sort of trickle down effect of

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Speaker 1: what Hollywood Brown could do for everyone else. If you

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Speaker 1: worry about the five nine one eighty frame, which you

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Speaker 1: don't typically like to see as an outside wide receiver,

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Speaker 1: you want those taller wide receivers. No offense, Paul, you

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Speaker 1: want those six feet and taller pass catchers. But if

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Speaker 1: you're able to beat your man off the line of scrimmage,

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Speaker 1: get that separation. Doesn't matter how tall you are, how

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Speaker 1: short you might be. As a wide receiver, you're opened

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Speaker 1: by three or four yards. And that's what Hollywood Brown

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Speaker 1: was able to do since he entered the league, and

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Speaker 1: him and Rondale more to fine demanded of Americans. By

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Speaker 1: the way, Craig I opened that door for you. If

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Speaker 1: you look at some of the next gen stats and

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Speaker 1: the other analytics, Rondelle more and more separation per yard

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Speaker 1: and route run than virtually in your receiver out there.

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Speaker 1: So now you got to get him downfield, get that

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Speaker 1: sort of separation. Same with Hollywood Brown, who by the way,

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Speaker 1: he gets more cushioned than any other receiver in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: According to Hollywood Brownie hold Us on an episode of

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Speaker 1: The Big Red Rage that the analytics will tell you

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Speaker 1: that the corners stay off him a lot more so

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Speaker 1: great if they're going to do that, here comes James

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Speaker 1: Conner and company. We're just gonna run the ball. And

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Speaker 1: if you're gonna give us three yards in a cloud

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Speaker 1: of dust right there off the bat, we'll take advantage

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Speaker 1: of that. James Connor, of the ability to break tackles.

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Speaker 1: one of the reasons that they drafted in Andy Isabella

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Speaker 1: all curious to find out. We'll find out soon enough.

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