1
00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:04,120
Speaker 1: First date of follow up powered by the Advocates Injury

2
00:00:04,120 --> 00:00:06,800
Speaker 1: Attorneys online at advocateslaw dot com.

3
00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:08,920
Speaker 2: Bree is on the phone today for a first date

4
00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:12,240
Speaker 2: follow up and she's getting ghosted by a dude named Jeff,

5
00:00:12,440 --> 00:00:14,280
Speaker 2: and so we're about to see if we can get

6
00:00:14,320 --> 00:00:16,680
Speaker 2: another date and find out why she was ghosted by

7
00:00:16,680 --> 00:00:18,960
Speaker 2: calling him in a second. But first let's find out

8
00:00:18,960 --> 00:00:20,599
Speaker 2: about the date. Brie, how long has it been since

9
00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:21,360
Speaker 2: you heard from Jeff?

10
00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:25,599
Speaker 3: I have not heard from him in four days for

11
00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:26,800
Speaker 3: a very long date.

12
00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:30,200
Speaker 1: When did you last talk to I mean, like, what

13
00:00:30,280 --> 00:00:31,560
Speaker 1: was your last interaction with him?

14
00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:34,600
Speaker 3: Like, so it was our date with our last interaction,

15
00:00:34,680 --> 00:00:37,080
Speaker 3: I've not heard from him since the date, and I'm

16
00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:38,800
Speaker 3: not sure what happened.

17
00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:40,520
Speaker 4: Did you reach out to him since?

18
00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:44,640
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, I'm starting to look a little bit crazy.

19
00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:51,239
Speaker 4: So you guys, okay, fair, well, let's talk about the day.

20
00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:51,879
Speaker 2: How did it go?

21
00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:57,280
Speaker 3: Okay? So we met on Hinge. He ticks all of

22
00:00:57,360 --> 00:01:00,560
Speaker 3: my boxes. It was a great first date. So he

23
00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:04,440
Speaker 3: basically picked everything out. He has his favorite neighborhood spots.

24
00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:08,080
Speaker 3: So we went to this really really nice Battalion restaurant

25
00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:11,280
Speaker 3: and all the Italian food was really thoughtful. He asked

26
00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:13,560
Speaker 3: me before we went what my favorite food was, so

27
00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:16,960
Speaker 3: we had that in common, which was really cool. And

28
00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:20,360
Speaker 3: then we went to another little cute spot to get

29
00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:23,240
Speaker 3: some drinks and there was a tooth box there, which

30
00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:27,080
Speaker 3: I thought was pretty cool, and he gave me money

31
00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:30,600
Speaker 3: so I could pick out my favorite songs. I thought

32
00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:35,160
Speaker 3: it was very thoughtful. Yeah, like just really a low key, sweet,

33
00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:38,440
Speaker 3: sweet thoughtful date. And we sat next to each other

34
00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:43,560
Speaker 3: and we sang like my favorite songs and uh like,

35
00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:53,400
Speaker 3: we accidentally brushed elbows a couple of times, and it

36
00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:56,600
Speaker 3: was like the best dates I've ever been on. So

37
00:01:57,320 --> 00:02:00,880
Speaker 3: I'm kind of confused. We had a lot in common,

38
00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:05,880
Speaker 3: like we talked about sunny movies, like like our childhood.

39
00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:08,560
Speaker 3: I was telling him I was interested in self dancing

40
00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:11,640
Speaker 3: and he said he was like open to going because

41
00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:13,679
Speaker 3: I was trying to test the waters because pee, we'd be,

42
00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:18,360
Speaker 3: you know, interested in the mother hang. We both are

43
00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:22,720
Speaker 3: mediocre cooks. There was just like a lot of commonalities

44
00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:25,560
Speaker 3: and laughter and just I thought it was good vibes

45
00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:28,560
Speaker 3: and then I don't know, I thought it was perfect,

46
00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:35,280
Speaker 3: like yeah, we closed down the bar and then Ricky

47
00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:38,880
Speaker 3: walked me home and then we kissed and I thought

48
00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:41,880
Speaker 3: it was magic. And then I have not heard from

49
00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:47,480
Speaker 3: him since, so I don't know I've been We texted

50
00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:50,880
Speaker 3: that night and that was fine, but then I tried

51
00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:54,680
Speaker 3: to keep texting to like, you know, I'm going to

52
00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:56,760
Speaker 3: the salta Cross. We're gonna hang out. How is your day?

53
00:02:56,840 --> 00:02:57,840
Speaker 3: How is work? Any of that.

54
00:02:58,320 --> 00:03:01,239
Speaker 2: I've got nothing, any idea of why he's ghosts to

55
00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:01,639
Speaker 2: you at all.

56
00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:06,160
Speaker 3: My friends have a prediction. Okay, so I talk a lot.

57
00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:11,560
Speaker 3: I don't know if she's noticed. They think maybe I

58
00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:15,800
Speaker 3: over did. I was talking about like pillar talk and

59
00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:19,519
Speaker 3: intimacy and like, I don't know. Maybe they think I

60
00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:22,520
Speaker 3: just I was too hardcore for flirting. I came, I'm

61
00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:25,880
Speaker 3: too strong with Hey, let's go salt the dancing, I'm

62
00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:27,919
Speaker 3: looking too far into it. I don't know. They're thinking

63
00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:31,920
Speaker 3: I did maybe too much flirting or too much like

64
00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:33,960
Speaker 3: where are we going?

65
00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:34,040
Speaker 1: With?

66
00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:36,120
Speaker 3: Are the next step? How do you feel about this?

67
00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:36,400
Speaker 1: Or that?

68
00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:39,920
Speaker 2: Maybe when your elbows brushed, did you guys have long

69
00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:42,480
Speaker 2: sleeves on bare elbows?

70
00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:45,600
Speaker 3: I rolled my sleeves up. He did not.

71
00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:48,520
Speaker 2: Oh, that's why we thought you were a little risky

72
00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:52,800
Speaker 2: going in Barlow like that. Is quite all right, skin

73
00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:55,040
Speaker 2: to skin, Well, we'll see if we can figure it

74
00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:57,200
Speaker 2: out for you. We'll play a song come back, and

75
00:03:57,240 --> 00:03:59,200
Speaker 2: then call him and see hotells why he's ghosting you

76
00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:02,640
Speaker 2: and hopefully getting another date. Okay, all right, we'll get

77
00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:05,280
Speaker 2: your first date follow up next. Right in the middle

78
00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:07,320
Speaker 2: of your first date follow up, if you're just joining us,

79
00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:09,400
Speaker 2: a breeze on the phone and she's getting ghosted by

80
00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:11,880
Speaker 2: a dude named Jeff. So we're about to call him

81
00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:13,640
Speaker 2: and see if you'll tell us why he's ghosting her

82
00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:15,840
Speaker 2: and maybe get her another date. But before we do that, Lee,

83
00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:17,880
Speaker 2: why don't you catch everybody up on your situation?

84
00:04:18,520 --> 00:04:21,520
Speaker 3: Okay? Because name is Jeff. We met on Hinge, best

85
00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:25,000
Speaker 3: date of my life, very thoughtful, very kind. Now has

86
00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:27,520
Speaker 3: been ghosting me for four days. My friends think it's

87
00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:31,560
Speaker 3: because maybe over shared, Maybe I like came on too strong.

88
00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:35,800
Speaker 3: I don't know. Yeah, I don't know.

89
00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:39,800
Speaker 2: Ye that must have been what it was? All right, Well,

90
00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:41,160
Speaker 2: are you ready for us to call him?

91
00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:42,760
Speaker 3: Yes? Please? All right?

92
00:04:42,880 --> 00:05:02,159
Speaker 2: Here we go, Hello him, I speak to Jeff. Please, yeh, Jeff,

93
00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:04,039
Speaker 2: how are you? My name is Jeubel, and I host

94
00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:05,440
Speaker 2: a radio show. It's called The Jewbel Show.

95
00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:08,360
Speaker 4: Hi, Jeff, the whole show's here. I'm Nina. Hi, I'm Victoria.

96
00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:12,479
Speaker 2: Hi. Good. How are you?

97
00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:13,880
Speaker 5: What do I owe the honor?

98
00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:16,800
Speaker 2: Have you ever listened to the show before?

99
00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:18,240
Speaker 5: Once or twice?

100
00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:20,240
Speaker 2: We do a segment on the show it's called the

101
00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:21,960
Speaker 2: first Date follow up. So that's where if you go

102
00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:24,320
Speaker 2: out on a date with somebody and end up ghosting them,

103
00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:26,839
Speaker 2: that person can have us get you on the phone

104
00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:29,280
Speaker 2: to ask why you're ghosting them. So we got an

105
00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:35,840
Speaker 2: email about you, sucka. You need to be very nice,

106
00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:38,920
Speaker 2: like coaxing, but we got an email about you.

107
00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:42,760
Speaker 5: I think I see where this is going. Yeah. About

108
00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:48,200
Speaker 5: about Kaylen. No, I'm sorry, her.

109
00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:48,760
Speaker 2: Name is Bree.

110
00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:52,040
Speaker 4: You busy? You're busy, Jeff?

111
00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:56,040
Speaker 5: Never mind about that Calen.

112
00:05:57,520 --> 00:05:58,800
Speaker 2: Okay, and I heard it.

113
00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:03,520
Speaker 5: Okay, I'm going to give you a short answer. Relie

114
00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:07,960
Speaker 5: to me be a liar about what about her age?

115
00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:11,040
Speaker 5: I mean she was I liked her. I liked her

116
00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:13,120
Speaker 5: a lot. So I went and you know, I did

117
00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:18,320
Speaker 5: the the proverbial scouting technique where you go on you know,

118
00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:21,960
Speaker 5: social media, find out things about them. And I found

119
00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:24,599
Speaker 5: out that actually she told me she was thirty three.

120
00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:27,600
Speaker 5: The app that she was thirty three. I'm thirty years old.

121
00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:32,520
Speaker 5: Turns out she thirty eight? What and yeah, yeah, kind

122
00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:35,280
Speaker 5: of like comes to me for a loop. I was like, well,

123
00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:37,520
Speaker 5: we had a lot in common, we shared a lot

124
00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:39,160
Speaker 5: of stuff, we had it. I had a great day.

125
00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:41,560
Speaker 5: I thought we had a good time. But I just

126
00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:44,400
Speaker 5: don't do well with liars. How do you know she

127
00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:47,400
Speaker 5: was lying about her age? Well her because her birthday

128
00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:49,320
Speaker 5: on her on her social media page?

129
00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:52,120
Speaker 2: Okay, and then you asked her her real birthday or

130
00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:54,080
Speaker 2: something like how'd you find out the real birthday?

131
00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:56,600
Speaker 4: Yeah? It shows on apps like how old they are

132
00:06:56,760 --> 00:06:57,520
Speaker 4: on what a right?

133
00:06:57,560 --> 00:06:59,280
Speaker 2: But then so she said she's.

134
00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:02,039
Speaker 5: And Jay said she was already great, okay, so it.

135
00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:04,919
Speaker 2: Said she was. But then you saw her birthdate on what.

136
00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:07,039
Speaker 5: On her social media? On her face?

137
00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:07,400
Speaker 3: Okay?

138
00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:10,600
Speaker 2: Oh okay, So you didn't ask her about that?

139
00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:13,920
Speaker 5: Well, I didn't really need to ask her anything, as

140
00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:15,720
Speaker 5: I mean, she already lied to me. She's gonna lie

141
00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:18,320
Speaker 5: to me again. What do you ask? You're not supposed

142
00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:19,520
Speaker 5: to have a woman her age, right.

143
00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:22,040
Speaker 1: I mean, maybe it's like an accident. Maybe it was

144
00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:23,920
Speaker 1: like a typo all of a sudden you put in

145
00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:25,320
Speaker 1: the wrong number, and you're thirty eight.

146
00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:27,960
Speaker 4: I don't know. I just feel like, does it matter

147
00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:28,600
Speaker 4: how old she is?

148
00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:28,880
Speaker 3: Though?

149
00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:31,320
Speaker 4: Like, does is that really what bothers you?

150
00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:33,679
Speaker 5: No, don't get it twisted. It's not about her age, okay,

151
00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:37,280
Speaker 5: It's about the fact that she was she wasn't forecoming.

152
00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:40,320
Speaker 5: It's about I've had my own pass experience that some

153
00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:44,000
Speaker 5: my lives about the little thing, the next thing, you know, everything.

154
00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:46,720
Speaker 5: So it's just it's just kind of a deal breaker

155
00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:47,200
Speaker 5: for me, you know.

156
00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:49,240
Speaker 4: So we spiral a little bit. That kind of makes sense.

157
00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:52,840
Speaker 2: Okay, well, thanks for telling us, Jeff, I appreciate that.

158
00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:54,280
Speaker 5: Thank you.

159
00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:57,400
Speaker 2: Also, Brie is on the phone. She's been listening to

160
00:07:57,400 --> 00:07:58,520
Speaker 2: this whole time and wants to talk to you.

161
00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:07,200
Speaker 5: Oh oh okay, three Jess agree.

162
00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:14,840
Speaker 3: Yes, the age on hinge is not correct. However, you

163
00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:17,360
Speaker 3: would not have met me if I didn't fudge the

164
00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:18,320
Speaker 3: number a little bit.

165
00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:20,120
Speaker 2: Oh so you know you did?

166
00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:21,920
Speaker 5: O did?

167
00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:25,880
Speaker 3: There's so many it's not people normally don't bump the

168
00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:28,440
Speaker 3: age up to thirty five. So I've noticed that the

169
00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:32,800
Speaker 3: pool is much smaller. So I just reduced my age

170
00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:35,400
Speaker 3: by a little bit. An age is nothing by that

171
00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:37,760
Speaker 3: but a number, So I didn't think it was a

172
00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:40,440
Speaker 3: big deal, and I didn't realize he was googling me.

173
00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:42,800
Speaker 1: I think it's safe to assume that anytime you go

174
00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:43,120
Speaker 1: on a d.

175
00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:45,880
Speaker 4: At risk of being googled.

176
00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:49,480
Speaker 3: He should have asked me. You didn't even ask me.

177
00:08:49,520 --> 00:08:52,559
Speaker 3: You just assumed that I'm like a big wire because

178
00:08:52,559 --> 00:08:53,400
Speaker 3: it was hinge.

179
00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:57,959
Speaker 5: Well, I mean, honestly that that should have been one

180
00:08:57,960 --> 00:09:00,480
Speaker 5: of the things you addressed on at all on our date,

181
00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:03,440
Speaker 5: you know, I mean, maybe something about letting me know

182
00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:05,439
Speaker 5: that by the way, you know, maybe it wouldn't have

183
00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:07,680
Speaker 5: been such a such a shock to me had I

184
00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:10,960
Speaker 5: heard it from your mouth instead of finding out on

185
00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:11,440
Speaker 5: my own.

186
00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:15,679
Speaker 3: Okay, I understand that my intention was never to not

187
00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:18,360
Speaker 3: tell you. I was planning on telling you, and then

188
00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:20,640
Speaker 3: I just kind of got caught up in everything and

189
00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:23,760
Speaker 3: forgot about it and got nervous, and then it was

190
00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:26,240
Speaker 3: just in a moment. The plan was.

191
00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:29,640
Speaker 5: Never not to tell you. So have you lied to

192
00:09:29,679 --> 00:09:31,520
Speaker 5: me about anything else? Is there anything else you want

193
00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:32,280
Speaker 5: to come clean about?

194
00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:36,600
Speaker 3: Or No, that's it. I don't know why I would

195
00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:37,600
Speaker 3: lie about anything else.

196
00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:41,080
Speaker 5: So, you know, we were listening there at the jukebox

197
00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:43,360
Speaker 5: and you play all these songs. Is I mean Flowers

198
00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:45,600
Speaker 5: you know by Miley? Is that not your favorite song?

199
00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:46,920
Speaker 5: Is that? Are you lied about that too?

200
00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:52,400
Speaker 3: No, that is my favorite song. You saw me sing

201
00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:54,680
Speaker 3: to it loudly. That is definitely my favorite song.

202
00:09:55,080 --> 00:09:56,840
Speaker 5: I mean, do you did you like the food that

203
00:09:56,880 --> 00:09:59,280
Speaker 5: we had? Did you like my neighborhood spot there? Or

204
00:09:59,320 --> 00:09:59,960
Speaker 5: did you lie about that?

205
00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:00,400
Speaker 2: Look?

206
00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:04,720
Speaker 3: I hate food. I just enjoyed the food. It was great.

207
00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:08,000
Speaker 4: I think Jeff has some trust issues, and that's okay.

208
00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:11,319
Speaker 3: I'm not a liar. I'm not a bad person. I'm

209
00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:15,920
Speaker 3: not like trying to trick you. Nobody after thirty five,

210
00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:18,080
Speaker 3: Like there's a cutoff on hinge. I don't know why.

211
00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:20,800
Speaker 3: So the pool is small for dating options. So I

212
00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:24,080
Speaker 3: just made my net a little wider, and I wouldn't

213
00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:26,760
Speaker 3: have met you otherwise. I really don't think it's a

214
00:10:26,800 --> 00:10:29,720
Speaker 3: big deal. I'm not lying about all sorts of weird

215
00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:35,680
Speaker 3: things like pasta and music. Okay, I was planning on

216
00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:38,959
Speaker 3: telling you and then I just got caught up. That's all.

217
00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:41,880
Speaker 2: Jeff, would you like to go on another date with Brie?

218
00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:43,880
Speaker 2: We'll pay for it. Give it a chance. You can

219
00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:44,680
Speaker 2: griller in person?

220
00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:45,320
Speaker 3: Right?

221
00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:50,440
Speaker 5: Yeah? I would love to go on another date with Bree,

222
00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:52,880
Speaker 5: and I would love to, you know, come clean about

223
00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:54,880
Speaker 5: whatever we need to come clean about.

224
00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:58,680
Speaker 2: Okay, well, Bree, congratulations, you got another date.

225
00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:00,120
Speaker 3: Thank you.

226
00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:02,280
Speaker 4: You're going to be questioned every move you make, but hey,

227
00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:03,240
Speaker 4: more power to you.

228
00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:05,800
Speaker 3: Yet, I will be asking you who CA one is.

229
00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:09,480
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's right, I forgot about that.

230
00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:12,280
Speaker 3: You know what, screw it, I believe you.

231
00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:16,160
Speaker 2: Oh she had that in her back pocket.

232
00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:20,920
Speaker 3: Juble's first date follow up