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Speaker 1: There's nobs. It's crazy. I looked up a little bit

426
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Speaker 1: of his history and James Connor was a star running

427
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Speaker 1: back in high school obviously, and a star defensive lineman.

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Speaker 1: Think about that combination. And then he comes in as

429
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Speaker 1: a true freshman at Pitt and he broke Tony Dorset's

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Speaker 1: record for rushing in a Bowl game. I mean, so

431
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Speaker 1: yere's a guy with size and speed able to move.

432
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Speaker 1: You have that element, the one two punch. And then

433
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Speaker 1: what was interesting in the offseason, coach, is that Sean

434
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Speaker 1: Coogler was promoted to run game coordinator. Obviously you're a

435
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Speaker 1: big part of that. And then Cliff Kingsbury. Obviously, how's

436
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Speaker 1: that going to go this year? The game planning and

437
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Speaker 1: formulating the run game from week to week? How's that

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Speaker 1: going to go? Well? I think coach does a great job,

439
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Speaker 1: you know, putting this plan together and you know, and

440
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Speaker 1: allowed coaches to work and you know, Coogs is a

441
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Speaker 1: great human being. It's gonna be easy to work with him.

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Speaker 1: Steve Hyde and Jim Dre you know, Can Turning, all

443
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Speaker 1: these guys that we uh were as an offense was

444
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Speaker 1: working together. But it's gonna be fun, you know. Um,

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Speaker 1: But you know, I hadn't worked with a guy you know,

446
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Speaker 1: let coos Um. He's about as good as you ever

447
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Speaker 1: want to get. He makes coming to work fun. You know.

448
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Speaker 1: Coach Kingsberry has done that with everybody and stuff. We've

449
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Speaker 1: got a great group of group of coaches and everybody

450
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Speaker 1: enjoys being around each other and that makes it easy working.

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Speaker 1: And then h so we're looking forward to getting this thing. Sorry,

452
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Speaker 1: So James, you gotta help me out here, I mean

453
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Speaker 1: the rest of the running back room and say, tell

454
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Speaker 1: me who I should be talking off as we get

455
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Speaker 1: ready to go into training gap right here? Is there

456
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Speaker 1: a guy you know? Yeah? Ahead. I think that the

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Speaker 1: group that we have is is as good as E's. Um.

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Speaker 1: You know, I think that all six of these guys

459
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Speaker 1: have you know, qualities that you can give to a

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Speaker 1: team that make it help. I'm and again, I'm I'm

461
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Speaker 1: just looking. I'm excited for every guy's opportunity and it's

462
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Speaker 1: gonna be fun again, like I said, it'd be fun

463
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Speaker 1: to watch. I tell you one of my takeaways from

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Speaker 1: watching three days a mini camps that you know, Benjamin

465
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Speaker 1: ran every single drill, I mean, even the warm ups.

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Speaker 1: He was going one hundred and ten percent. He he

467
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Speaker 1: was out there seemingly to make a statement with every

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Speaker 1: single rep. Honestly, even when guys are just going half

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Speaker 1: speed and warm it up, he was seemingly going full

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Speaker 1: speeded he catch your eye a little bit, you know, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's you know, anybody who've got the obviously you want.

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Speaker 1: All these kids have ability. I mean, he's got great ability.

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Speaker 1: He's just having It's gonna be time for him. He's

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Speaker 1: just gonna have to take advantage of whatever opportunities to

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Speaker 1: get the greatest one play here. Maybe it's Can who knows,

476
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Speaker 1: but he's gonna have to be prepared to be available

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Speaker 1: number one and number two, to be able to execute

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Speaker 1: properly the things we're gonna ask him to do. He's

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Speaker 1: an exciting you. And Claire Johnson Moore's extremely exciting you,

480
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Speaker 1: and Claire Taby and Feast, a guy who's you know,

481
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Speaker 1: bounced around a little bit in California, Muhammad, who Coops

482
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Speaker 1: had and never deavor with him. I mean, skee to.

483
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Speaker 1: Those guys got something different that makes them all valuable. Coach,

484
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Speaker 1: what are your thoughts on Kyler Murray as a young

485
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Speaker 1: quarterback developing and his develop meant this year? What do

486
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Speaker 1: you expect from Kyler? You know, I think that everybody

487
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Speaker 1: expects something from him, But I think the guy can't

488
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Speaker 1: get any better coaching than coach. He's there um and

489
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Speaker 1: he is. His kid is going to light it up

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Speaker 1: even more. I'm just I'm just I think we're all

491
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Speaker 1: in a position if we're gonna sit here, you know,

492
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Speaker 1: wash out. His kid develops and grows into everything, and

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Speaker 1: everybody expects me to be um And that's not putting

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Speaker 1: pressure on him. Eat. I'm sure he understands that better

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Speaker 1: than anybody. But it's just gonna it's gonna be fun

496
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Speaker 1: just to see how coach takes him and he begins

497
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Speaker 1: to grow into exactly what everybody believes he can be.

498
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Speaker 1: Your days is elite blocking back. Who was your toughest battle?

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Speaker 1: Who was your toughest battle you had to meet in

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Speaker 1: the whole Coach, You know there's a lot of guys, man,

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Speaker 1: I mean fullback. We don't remember when we were running

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Speaker 1: into you. Just you just appreciate the activity. Could I

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Speaker 1: say Harry Carson? Can I say Mike Singletary? Can I say, oh, hey,

504
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Speaker 1: though Mike Singletary is the only lineback, well, he's one

505
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Speaker 1: of two linebackers I've ever blocked that. After play was over,

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Speaker 1: I got coached the field, James. I love you man,

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Speaker 1: Thank you brother, Thanks coach. We appreciate it. No problem.

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Speaker 1: You guys have a great week. Yeah, that's awesome. There

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Speaker 1: you go, Cardinals running Backs coach James Saxon, and uh,

510
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Speaker 1: maybe that's where his coaching career started right there actual field.

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Speaker 1: Carl Banks in there as well, Paully Mike Singletary had

512
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Speaker 1: an impression amount him. He went on to be a

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Speaker 1: twenty year coach in the NFL back with more in

514
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Speaker 1: the Big Red Rage. After this, Brady gets a stamp

515
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Speaker 1: from Andrew Falco's trying to get the accepted. Coming back

516
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Speaker 1: up the field, it's Robert Albert Albert forty Bertie twenty fifteen,

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Speaker 1: ten five and he will walk into the internal at

518
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Speaker 1: eighty one yard big six. He knows if he's healthy, man,

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Speaker 1: he's a big party his defense and when you're speaking

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Speaker 1: about leaders and guys, that's pushing guys man. He is

521
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Speaker 1: on top of our listens Ford leaders. Yeah, when he's healthy,

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Speaker 1: he can play. And when he's out in that field,

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Speaker 1: you can't miss him. Just his style of play, how

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Speaker 1: vocal he is. He was a can't miss guy. In

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Speaker 1: the last three days at mini camp Bans Joseph there

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Speaker 1: on Robert Alford who has missed the last two years

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Speaker 1: with injury. So some advice from Vans Joseph there. We

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Speaker 1: got coached up by James Saxon in the last segment,

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Speaker 1: Cardinals running backs coach, and I guess that's what I

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Speaker 1: get wolf huh. Here on the Big Red Race presented

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Speaker 1: by Santan Ford and Gilbert, I ask, you know, Ken,

532
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Speaker 1: a two hundred and thirty something pound running back, catch

533
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Speaker 1: the ball? And then what was this quote? What was

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Speaker 1: the response to me? It was something about us you

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Speaker 1: don't put an elephant in a sailboat, paul I believe

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Speaker 1: that was what he said. That's you know, I mean,

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Speaker 1: where's to live by him? Like, very profound right there,

538
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Speaker 1: don't put an elephant on a sailboat. If there's no

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Speaker 1: doubt about that. I got to write that down, Paulie,

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Speaker 1: and remember that, I'm gonna use it to morning. Don't

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Speaker 1: overthink it. Basically, it's what he's saying, okay, right, which

542
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Speaker 1: is what I was guilty of doing right there. So

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Speaker 1: now look, I don't think I'm overthinking it when I say, okay.

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Speaker 1: The biggest question looming over this team, the biggest answer

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Speaker 1: they need out of training camp is cornerback agree or disagree? Oh, Polly, yeah, yes,

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Speaker 1: I think on the defensive side of the ball, I

547
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Speaker 1: definitely think from a positional perspective. And it's tough, Polly,

548
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Speaker 1: because I know Robert Alfred. You can't bank on Robert

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Speaker 1: Alford the last two years. I understand he's suffered severe

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Speaker 1: injuries that have ruined his seasons for two years. You

551
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Speaker 1: got to go all the way back to twenty eighteen

552
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Speaker 1: to watch him on tape in a game. For the

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Speaker 1: most part, I understand that. But if you tell me

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Speaker 1: Robert Alford is going to be healthy, I think they're

555
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Speaker 1: going to be fine out there. For me, it's the

556
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Speaker 1: inside linebacker position. That is the one position that I

557
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Speaker 1: am going to be looking at and watching very closely

558
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Speaker 1: with Zaven Collins and Isaiah Simmons. Yeah, and I get

559
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Speaker 1: it absolutely. Alfred, as we know, was having a great

560
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Speaker 1: camp twenty nineteen and then oh man, he broke his

561
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Speaker 1: lower leg out for the season. Last year. He was

562
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Speaker 1: bawling ye and then out of nowhere a torn pack

563
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Speaker 1: and so miss the season again. And the question of

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Speaker 1: Robert Alfred today, Wolf was did you ever consider retirement?

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Speaker 1: Not at all? Man, Nah, I'm not ready to hang

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Speaker 1: him up at all. So, um, you always gonna have

567
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Speaker 1: dark times, man, in anything that you do. Um, I mean,

568
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Speaker 1: if you love what you do. I mean, you're gonna

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Speaker 1: use that to motivate you. And that's what I use

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Speaker 1: these past two years as get better at studying film.

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Speaker 1: Um something that I could get out of it that

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Speaker 1: was positive for me. Man, That is music to my

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Speaker 1: ears right there, Polly. Just the fact that he said

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Speaker 1: that he wasn't ready to retire ball, not like you,

575
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Speaker 1: he wasn't ready to retire ball. Make me an offer.

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Speaker 1: Where's the golden parachute. I'm ready to sign the line

577
00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:00,800
Speaker 1: that has dotted, there's no t That's what I want

578
00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:04,280
Speaker 1: to hear out of my potential starting corner. I want

579
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Speaker 1: to hear somebody that has resolved and love of the game.

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Speaker 1: And that's the one thing you hear about Robert Alford.

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Speaker 1: You hear it from his teammates, you hear it from

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Speaker 1: his coaches, you hear it from the guys in the

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Speaker 1: front office ball. He loves ball. He loves everything about it.

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Speaker 1: He's an alpha, He's an alpha male. He's a dog,

585
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Speaker 1: and he's very similar in mentality and very similar in

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Speaker 1: his soul. Paul to a guy that the Arizona Cardinals

587
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Speaker 1: brought in, Malcolm Butler. Yeah, I mean job number one

588
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Speaker 1: was one in the offseason, Steve Kind wanted to get

589
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Speaker 1: everybody now more physical. Yes, well, you didn't have to

590
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Speaker 1: go out and get Robert Alford. He was already from

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Speaker 1: the roster now. Cliff Kingsbury interestingly told the media this

592
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Speaker 1: week that Robert Alford literally told management, told the decision makers,

593
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Speaker 1: I owe you guys one. So they cut him. They

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Speaker 1: resigned him to a bargain basement deal. And he's out

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Speaker 1: there and he's playing, and you mentioned the respect he

596
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Speaker 1: gets from his teammates. Will speaking of Buddha Baker was

597
00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:04,440
Speaker 1: asked this week about Robert Alford. Those of you who

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Speaker 1: do not know Robert Alfred, He's a big talker, a

599
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:10,080
Speaker 1: guy who loves the game, a guy who you know

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Speaker 1: last year and would still go to meetings, would still

601
00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:16,160
Speaker 1: go to practice and watch practice and help young guys

602
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:19,040
Speaker 1: out or help you know, older guys out and seeing things.

603
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Speaker 1: So now that he's on the field and I know

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Speaker 1: he's very excited, he still looks like the great Robert Alford.

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Speaker 1: Fresh Robert Alford. Wolf. If Robert Alford is healthy, to

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Speaker 1: your point, he's out there. And then Malcolm Butler, mister

607
00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:35,920
Speaker 1: more than one hundred tackles a year ago, as a corner.

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Speaker 1: I had a chance to talk with Rob Moore. Do

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Speaker 1: you remember Rob Moore, former Cardinals receiver. Of course I do, Paul,

610
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Speaker 1: he's now the Titans receivers coach. And I mentioned Malcolm

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Speaker 1: Butler just in conversation and he reacteds at all. He'll

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Speaker 1: fight you now, he'll fight you. So you're gonna have

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Speaker 1: two physical corners, potentially Byron Murphy on the inside. Okay,

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Speaker 1: but once again it's predicated on Alfred stand healthy and well,

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Speaker 1: if you know, on the big Red rage a few

616
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Speaker 1: weeks ago at Greg Williams and I want you to

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Speaker 1: ract once again when we fresh your memory on the

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Speaker 1: cornerbacks coach, and he's Scott a report. You guys saw

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Speaker 1: Robert Alfred from a training camp standpoint over the last

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Speaker 1: two years. We were expecting big things from him he

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Speaker 1: the last two years just from his performance in what

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00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:22,160
Speaker 1: he brings from a tenacity level to our team into

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Speaker 1: our secondary. I mean, this guy is energy in a bottle.

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Speaker 1: You know what I mean? If you if you're ever

625
00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:30,040
Speaker 1: around how he is always on and he's a dog

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Speaker 1: in the appear to the other words. Samy just listened

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Speaker 1: to that, Paul. It's one of the reasons why I've

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Speaker 1: been talking about Robert Alfred for how many years, I

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Speaker 1: mean just years waiting to see Robert Alfred out there

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Speaker 1: playing on the field, and Paul, to your point, in

631
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Speaker 1: training camp, he was the best player on the field.

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Speaker 1: He was. He was out there absolutely bawling. And that's

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Speaker 1: why if this guy can stay healthy, it's really going

634
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:54,880
Speaker 1: to change a lot for the Arizona Cardinals. And Paul,

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00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:58,640
Speaker 1: by the way, the passing defense for the Arizona Cardinals

636
00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:03,120
Speaker 1: not nearly as bad is purported by everybody. Everybody has

637
00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:05,960
Speaker 1: a perception they were awful last year. They were number

638
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:08,240
Speaker 1: ten as a matter of fact, and yards per game

639
00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:11,640
Speaker 1: number seven and yards per play. Paulie, you put those

640
00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:14,600
Speaker 1: two things together right there, that's very, very tough. That's

641
00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:19,000
Speaker 1: a top ten past defense, number five in sacks per attempt,

642
00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:23,840
Speaker 1: number twelve on third down defense, and a defensive quarterback rating.

643
00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:26,240
Speaker 1: And you know that this is big to me because

644
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:28,640
Speaker 1: you go ahead with a quarterback rating, you look at

645
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:31,000
Speaker 1: it year in and year out, the best quarterbacks in

646
00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:34,280
Speaker 1: the NFL, they're in the top ten every year. That

647
00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:38,400
Speaker 1: that quarterback rating has got to be accurate to some degree.

648
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:41,480
Speaker 1: It's a decent measurement of how a human being plays

649
00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:45,600
Speaker 1: that position. Will now flip it over a defensive quarterback rating.

650
00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:48,640
Speaker 1: They were in the top half of the league, number fourteen.

651
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:51,360
Speaker 1: As a matter of fact. How much better can they

652
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:54,719
Speaker 1: be with a healthy Chandler Jones? How much better can

653
00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:57,640
Speaker 1: they be with JJ Watt? How much better can they

654
00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:02,520
Speaker 1: be with JJ Watt, Jordan Phillips and Chandler Jones. I'm

655
00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:06,480
Speaker 1: bullish on this defense getting better, in particular if Robert

656
00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:10,040
Speaker 1: Alford is healthy, if you can believe in Jalen Thompson

657
00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:15,160
Speaker 1: as well staying healthy, Yes, along with and I'll tell

658
00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:17,160
Speaker 1: you these two rookie corners who have been getting a

659
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:19,839
Speaker 1: lot of reps and they look the part, and Tay

660
00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:22,560
Speaker 1: Gollen and Marco Wilson, one of those guys can just

661
00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:25,600
Speaker 1: be counted on to contribute at some point and get

662
00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:28,920
Speaker 1: into that rotation because well, if you know fas Joseph,

663
00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:32,800
Speaker 1: his base defense is three corners. He's going five dbs

664
00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:35,400
Speaker 1: more than half the time. You need at least a

665
00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:38,440
Speaker 1: trio of corners. Yeah, there's no doubt about it, Paulie.

666
00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:41,239
Speaker 1: You do. And yet at the same time, you can

667
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:45,080
Speaker 1: leave two linebackers on the field that are never gonna

668
00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:48,360
Speaker 1: come off and Zaven Collins and Isaiah Simmons. I can't

669
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:53,640
Speaker 1: wait to see that grows strong grasshoppers. Well, I'll tell

670
00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:55,720
Speaker 1: you what, Well, before you go out running down the street,

671
00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:57,919
Speaker 1: we have one segment to go here and we're talking

672
00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:02,000
Speaker 1: about Isaiah Simmons, those inside linebackers. What exactly did the

673
00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:04,919
Speaker 1: Cardinals see so far? It is the big red rage

674
00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:12,240
Speaker 1: presented by Satan four in Gilbert shotguns, snapped to Wilson,

675
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:15,080
Speaker 1: straight drop back, steps up in the pocket, takes off

676
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:18,200
Speaker 1: running far side of the forty and drilled by Simmons

677
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:21,840
Speaker 1: at the forty one. Isaiah Simmons is balling. How you

678
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:24,680
Speaker 1: do things outside of the facility and off the field,

679
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:27,840
Speaker 1: like going home, and how long you choose to study,

680
00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:30,040
Speaker 1: what you choose to do extra, what you choose to

681
00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:33,560
Speaker 1: do after practice is over. That's something that I've always,

682
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:36,480
Speaker 1: you know, done, but you know, it's just a whole

683
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:38,880
Speaker 1: new level when you're a pro, just because at this

684
00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:42,360
Speaker 1: level where everybody's physically gifted, everyone's an athlete, and I

685
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:44,800
Speaker 1: feel like where people separate themselves as the mental aspect

686
00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:47,480
Speaker 1: of the game, and then you throw in what Bill

687
00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:50,680
Speaker 1: Davis Cardinals linebackers coach told us last week here on

688
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:53,280
Speaker 1: the Big Red Rage presented by satan Ford and Gilbert,

689
00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:56,520
Speaker 1: how many different positions did the coaches ask the rookie

690
00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:59,880
Speaker 1: Isaiah Simmons to play last year without an off season?

691
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:03,120
Speaker 1: Was it six? Paul? I mean half dozen? You're absolutely right.

692
00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:07,680
Speaker 1: We think about that, right Ding. So he's gonna be now, look,

693
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:10,600
Speaker 1: are they going to use him as a wildcard? Absolutely,

694
00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:13,640
Speaker 1: at least that's my expectation. Not to the degree though

695
00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:16,960
Speaker 1: a year ago, because now he's needed on an every

696
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:20,880
Speaker 1: down basis to be alongside Zavian Collins and so, but

697
00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:23,520
Speaker 1: you know, that threat will still be there. But I

698
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:25,839
Speaker 1: think he'll be able to go ahead and streamline things

699
00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:27,640
Speaker 1: a little bit. We'll be able to focus on the

700
00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:31,160
Speaker 1: one position and then you know, hopefully now with an

701
00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:34,000
Speaker 1: offseason and being out on that field and year one

702
00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:37,600
Speaker 1: under his belt, Wolf, what are your expectations Rizaiah Simmons Man,

703
00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:41,080
Speaker 1: I expect Isaiah Simmons to explode this year. I think

704
00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:43,560
Speaker 1: he is going to have a huge year. We loved

705
00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:45,840
Speaker 1: him when he was taking number eight overall by the

706
00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:50,040
Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals. We absolutely loved his game, his skill set,

707
00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:53,120
Speaker 1: of course, Pauly, but I think he's on the prescipice

708
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:55,200
Speaker 1: right now of having a huge year. And the reason

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00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:57,880
Speaker 1: why I say that is because of what Bill Davis

710
00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:01,839
Speaker 1: has told us this offseason and including the last time

711
00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:04,719
Speaker 1: he was on he was talking about the intelligence of

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00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:08,720
Speaker 1: Isaiah Simmons and just listening to Isaiah Simmons right there, Paulie.

713
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:13,080
Speaker 1: The mental side of it is critical. It's what separates

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00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:16,759
Speaker 1: one player from the next player. And this is going

715
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:18,759
Speaker 1: to be the challenge Isaiah Simmons is gonna have to

716
00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:21,000
Speaker 1: go out improve it now. I mean, this is a

717
00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:23,880
Speaker 1: prove it league. This is the great thing about it.

718
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:27,879
Speaker 1: We're gonna have front row seats to two inside linebackers

719
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:32,160
Speaker 1: with incredible skill, incredible talent that both are going to

720
00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:33,759
Speaker 1: have to go out and improve it. Paul that he

721
00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:36,239
Speaker 1: would play in the NFL. That's the last box that

722
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:39,000
Speaker 1: needs to be checked, right obviously, as lay athleticism, just

723
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:42,560
Speaker 1: break he proved to you this time a year ago.

724
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:45,759
Speaker 1: You were wondering, Okay, does he have the physicality. He's

725
00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:48,080
Speaker 1: got it, PAULI stick his face into the fire. I've

726
00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:50,320
Speaker 1: seen him do it. So now do you have the

727
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:54,240
Speaker 1: mental aptitude to play the prussion, the instincts the football

728
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:57,279
Speaker 1: IQ and and let's be honest, is Son Reddick never

729
00:37:57,400 --> 00:37:59,640
Speaker 1: quite got it and that was the difference. He had

730
00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:02,359
Speaker 1: a lot of athleticism him as well. He was hard nosed,

731
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:06,600
Speaker 1: but making the transition from edged inside linebacker he never

732
00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:09,000
Speaker 1: quite caught on. He was always a half step slow,

733
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:10,879
Speaker 1: and that was enough to get him beat and get

734
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:13,719
Speaker 1: him out of the rotation. Now he's in Carolina, so

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00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:17,160
Speaker 1: you have these two young linebackers advanced. Joseph the decordinator

736
00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:20,520
Speaker 1: this week was asked about Isaiah Simmons impairing him with

737
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:23,840
Speaker 1: the rookie Zavin Collins. I think as a coach, you

738
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:25,960
Speaker 1: have to understand it's going to be some bad downs,

739
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:29,120
Speaker 1: but also on a flip side, it's gonna be played

740
00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:31,480
Speaker 1: that those two guys can make that other guys can't make.

741
00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:34,719
Speaker 1: It's our job as a staff mine, especially to put

742
00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:37,279
Speaker 1: players first, in scheme second, you know, and to let

743
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:40,080
Speaker 1: those guys unlock those bodies and just play. You know,

744
00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:42,480
Speaker 1: So when you're playing with two young backers, and I

745
00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:44,759
Speaker 1: did it in Sam fran We had Pat Willis and

746
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:47,000
Speaker 1: Navarro Bowman when they were young guys, and you know,

747
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:48,839
Speaker 1: we kind of simplify things, and a lot of those

748
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:52,200
Speaker 1: guys are running hit. Was that you that just pounded

749
00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:54,719
Speaker 1: the tables? Pounded the table right there? Because I was

750
00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:58,920
Speaker 1: thinking of Navarro Bowman and Patrick Willis. You've mentioned those

751
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:01,320
Speaker 1: guys numerous times. Have you been talking advanced Joseph? I

752
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:03,759
Speaker 1: have not been talking to vance Joseph Paully, but that

753
00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:06,759
Speaker 1: I mean those guys right there. When I think of

754
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:10,160
Speaker 1: some of the best linebacking tandems the NFL has ever

755
00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:14,480
Speaker 1: known on the inside, I think of those guys, There's

756
00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:19,040
Speaker 1: no doubt about it. Luke Keekley and Thomas Davis as well, PAULI.

757
00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:23,160
Speaker 1: Those two guys were incredible inside linebackers for years with

758
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:26,040
Speaker 1: a Carolina Panthers. I think of those two guys, I

759
00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:29,200
Speaker 1: think at Carolina and I think of the San Francisco

760
00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:32,920
Speaker 1: forty nine ers. What can I can I just nocalize

761
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:35,320
Speaker 1: a pet peeve here? Okay? Why why do you always

762
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:37,840
Speaker 1: fail to site last year's Super Bowl winner? Did you

763
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:42,319
Speaker 1: happen to see Devin White and Lavante David Demi? Okay, Paul, Yes,

764
00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:45,200
Speaker 1: there was a playoff game. Tom Brady threw three picks

765
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:47,360
Speaker 1: in the second half. They still won. Why because of

766
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:51,440
Speaker 1: those two linebackers. They were destroying teams in the postseason

767
00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:53,440
Speaker 1: on that side of the ball. And if it's a

768
00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:56,360
Speaker 1: copycat league, do we not have a fresh reminder of

769
00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:59,560
Speaker 1: the Tampa Bay Bucks and their dynamic young linebacking crew. Yeah,

770
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:01,680
Speaker 1: but now you're you're just piling on, Paul. Okay, you're

771
00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:04,080
Speaker 1: just piling onto my point right here in What I

772
00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:07,640
Speaker 1: love about this as well is provided that these two

773
00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:09,640
Speaker 1: guys and they got to prove it. Paul, I'm sorry,

774
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:11,680
Speaker 1: this is a prove it league. I've said it before.

775
00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:13,759
Speaker 1: You got to prove it. They're gonna stick their face,

776
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:15,359
Speaker 1: They're gonna be able to hold up at the point

777
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:17,560
Speaker 1: of attack. I think Isaiah Simmons is going to be

778
00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:20,040
Speaker 1: that guy. We need to see Zavian Collins do it

779
00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:22,640
Speaker 1: as well. He needs to be aggressive. He needs to

780
00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:25,120
Speaker 1: show that he's gonna stick his face on somebody and

781
00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:27,160
Speaker 1: he's gonna hold up at the point of attack. And

782
00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:29,560
Speaker 1: if you tell me those two guys do that. The

783
00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:32,719
Speaker 1: physicality side of it, they've got that covered and all

784
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:37,560
Speaker 1: of a sudden, the athleticism and in coverage and their length, Paul,

785
00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:41,680
Speaker 1: can you imagine there won't be two inside linebackers that

786
00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:45,680
Speaker 1: are longer or taller than those two guys in the league. Paul,

787
00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:48,879
Speaker 1: it is striking when you watch them and they're out there,

788
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:51,400
Speaker 1: whether it was seven on seven, well, I mean just

789
00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:54,200
Speaker 1: to see. First you got to get past the numbers set.

790
00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:56,279
Speaker 1: It's gonna throw this in my face that you've been

791
00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:58,520
Speaker 1: out there at practice, but first you gotta get past

792
00:40:58,520 --> 00:40:59,920
Speaker 1: the numbers. Well, if you gotta get passing on with

793
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:02,759
Speaker 1: one inside linebacker is wearing nine and the others wearing

794
00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:04,600
Speaker 1: twenty five. But as soon as you get past that,

795
00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:07,800
Speaker 1: then you realize, oh my goodness, look at the measurables

796
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:11,759
Speaker 1: out there. Zaven Collins is very vocal and look, Wolf,

797
00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:13,640
Speaker 1: we both agree. We don't agree on much, but we

798
00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:16,800
Speaker 1: both agree that players know players. And when Buddha Bakers

799
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:19,359
Speaker 1: said this week about Zaven Collins, he said, on his own,

800
00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:21,440
Speaker 1: wasn't even asked about Zamon Collins, and he offered up

801
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:23,400
Speaker 1: and he said, you know what, he gets it. He

802
00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:27,400
Speaker 1: understands football. Quote end quote. That made me a lot

803
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:30,600
Speaker 1: more bullish on the rookie handling the green dot and

804
00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:34,600
Speaker 1: calling the defense. He's very vocal out there. He's not shy,

805
00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:38,320
Speaker 1: and so look there's gonna be risk reward, There's no

806
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:40,360
Speaker 1: doubt about it with two young guys in the middle.

807
00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:45,279
Speaker 1: But as Van's Joseph said, players first, scheme second. Yeah,

808
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:48,120
Speaker 1: so we're seeing a bit of a philosophical change here,

809
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:49,960
Speaker 1: perhaps going all the way back to the war room.

810
00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:52,480
Speaker 1: In this selection is Zaven Collins, where Steve Kine looked

811
00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:55,560
Speaker 1: at the camera and said, hey, these he's a starter

812
00:41:55,840 --> 00:42:00,399
Speaker 1: day one book it. Yeah, yeah, they absolutely there's a doubt.

813
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:02,640
Speaker 1: But what I like is we talked to Billy Davis,

814
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:06,279
Speaker 1: the inside linebacker coach last week, right Paully, and he

815
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:10,160
Speaker 1: was talking about Isaiah Simmons, and I asked him specifically, well,

816
00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:14,120
Speaker 1: Isaiah Simmons be able to help Zaven Collins, and he

817
00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:17,560
Speaker 1: without a shadow of a doubt, without any hesitations that

818
00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:20,279
Speaker 1: that's a great thing about it. Isaiah Simmons is a

819
00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:23,920
Speaker 1: very very bright kid and knows the game and his

820
00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:26,960
Speaker 1: knows the defense and knows the calls. He'll be able

821
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:29,760
Speaker 1: to help Zaven Collins. So you know what, Paul, again,

822
00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:32,000
Speaker 1: like I say, I don't want to get out of

823
00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:35,480
Speaker 1: my lane here because you've got to prove it to me.

824
00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:37,719
Speaker 1: This is a prove it league. Raise the bar for

825
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:41,560
Speaker 1: every rookie. It's it's Paul. It's so hard to come

826
00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:45,360
Speaker 1: in from the college game and make an impact on

827
00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:48,680
Speaker 1: an NFL team because it's just the best of the

828
00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:52,880
Speaker 1: best and it's a completely different game. And I just

829
00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:55,640
Speaker 1: I think, you know, sometimes I've got to cool my

830
00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:58,480
Speaker 1: jets on these guys. You've got to prove it to me.

831
00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:01,680
Speaker 1: And that's what our expect should be. And Zaman Collins

832
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:03,840
Speaker 1: is going to be the guy. I can tell you

833
00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:07,560
Speaker 1: just conversations I've had. Jordan Hicks ain't walking through that door.

834
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:09,520
Speaker 1: He will not be a part of the Ears on

835
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:13,160
Speaker 1: a Cardinals come training camp. So that's the way. The

836
00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:14,719
Speaker 1: other thing that gave me a little bit of hope

837
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:17,320
Speaker 1: was what Buddhas said this week and he asked was

838
00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:20,239
Speaker 1: asked about this year's version of the defense, bringing in

839
00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:23,000
Speaker 1: a lot of leaders, guys like JJ Watton on that

840
00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:25,600
Speaker 1: side of the ball. And this is Buddha now, and

841
00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:28,319
Speaker 1: I quote, you know what, We're able to hold each

842
00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:31,759
Speaker 1: other accountable, and that's something that guys haven't really done

843
00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:35,640
Speaker 1: the past few years. Hold each other accountable, and quote

844
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Speaker 1: Buddha Baker, so hopefully, and let me tell you, JJ

845
00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:44,160
Speaker 1: Watt leading every single d line drill, bringing ridiculous energy

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Speaker 1: As we know, they wanted, they wanted this. This is

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Speaker 1: Oh boy, special thanks Jim Mo mondro Cody Fincher, Wolf

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