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Speaker 1: Like the percentage of college football players they get drafted

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Speaker 1: in the NFL, I think it's like two. It is

429
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Speaker 1: a tiny, tiny number. The fraternity year end, whether you

430
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Speaker 1: ever play it down in the actual NFL or not

431
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Speaker 1: to have your name be drafted by a team, and

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Speaker 1: obviously the first second rounds were great players, but I'm

433
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Speaker 1: even talking about the six seventh rounds. Some of these

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Speaker 1: guys from schools that you've never heard of. It's just

435
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Speaker 1: such an incredible accomplishment that is really cool to watch.

436
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Speaker 1: And I don't think we have enough moments like that,

437
00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:06,159
Speaker 1: not just in sports, but in life anymore. Everything is

438
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Speaker 1: just so negative that and I trust me, I'm kind

439
00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:13,280
Speaker 1: of a negative person to that is really cool to watch. Okay,

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Speaker 1: the Big Story where I where I live. When I

441
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Speaker 1: say Big Story arguments on Twitter, the forty Niners drafted

442
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Speaker 1: a punter in the fourth round, and you know, obviously

443
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Speaker 1: I cover and talk about the forty Niners a lot.

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Speaker 1: People freight my I had a pretty simple take. I

445
00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:36,159
Speaker 1: don't care what you do in the fourth round. I

446
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Speaker 1: don't view fourth, fifth, six, and seventh round picks anywhere.

447
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Speaker 1: To the degree of first round is in the world

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Speaker 1: by itself, and same I'd say even the second round,

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Speaker 1: because again this is if you want to sit at

450
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Speaker 1: the big boy table for this conversation. Money matters, and

451
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Speaker 1: when I worked in the NFL, I drove a lot

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Speaker 1: of four, fifths, six, and seventh round picks to the

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Speaker 1: airport during training camp. When we cut them, there is

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Speaker 1: zero financial obligation to keep them on the team if

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Speaker 1: they're not giving up. Now, I'm not arguing that you

456
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Speaker 1: can't find really good players in the middle rounds, but

457
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Speaker 1: at the time of the draft, I got no clue.

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00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:22,280
Speaker 1: I know stats show we all know anyone with the brain,

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Speaker 1: especially like after the fourth round. It's a crapshoot, and

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00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:29,320
Speaker 1: we see every year fifth, six, and seventh rounders consistently

461
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Speaker 1: get beat out by undrafted free agents. So By said,

462
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Speaker 1: you can do whatever you want on Saturday, literally, do

463
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Speaker 1: whatever you want. And I don't think it's a bad pick. Now,

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Speaker 1: that doesn't mean it won't become a bad pick when

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Speaker 1: that guy can't play. But I don't view the two

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Speaker 1: things the same. And you can give me all Richard

467
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Speaker 1: Truman went in the fifth, Brady went in the six. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we can give examples, but I could give you way

469
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Speaker 1: more examples of guys you've never heard of that are

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Speaker 1: selling insurance. By the time they're twenty five, we're playing

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Speaker 1: for the uh the Orlando Apollos or the Memphis who

472
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Speaker 1: was us in the Charlie Eversaul fire fire Festival XFL

473
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Speaker 1: league whatever he called it. So when you take a

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Speaker 1: punter in the fourth round, I don't care. My quote

475
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Speaker 1: unquote value stops after the third round. I don't view

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Speaker 1: any value of picks. Now, if you take a punter,

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Speaker 1: if you draft a punter, he better be the starting punter.

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Speaker 1: He has to be the starting punter, and he has

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Speaker 1: to be a good starting punter. Because when you draft

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Speaker 1: a guy, he's gonna be your punter, but he better

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Speaker 1: be a good player. Now, if you had drafted the

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Speaker 1: punter in the third round, then John middlecoff I just

483
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Speaker 1: went third person has a problem with it because I go,

484
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Speaker 1: you know, that's not great business because consistently and in

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Speaker 1: the NFC West, for example, two of the best putters,

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Speaker 1: Johnny Hecker, who is the Rams punter, was an undrafted

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Speaker 1: free agent and I forget his name, but the Seattle

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Speaker 1: punter who was a fifth round pick last year from Texas,

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Speaker 1: I think Dickinson or something. He's a he's Australian. It

490
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Speaker 1: is one of the best partners in the league. So

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Speaker 1: if you draft a guy, you better hit on it.

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Speaker 1: But the reason that the Bucks got so much ship

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Speaker 1: a couple of years ago because they used a second

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Speaker 1: round pick on Roberto Aguayo and then the guy was terrible.

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Speaker 1: That's a disaster. It's a disaster when a player's bad

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Speaker 1: at second round. It's extra disaster when a kicker or

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Speaker 1: putter is bad. But people freak because I'm like, you

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Speaker 1: know what, I don't really care who you draft in

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Speaker 1: the fourth through seventh round. Middle Koff. You're a scout.

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Speaker 1: You should be. That's when the scouts make their money.

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Speaker 1: You know what my personal take when I worked in

502
00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:36,600
Speaker 1: the NFL was, we spend way too much time talking

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Speaker 1: about fifths and six rounders. You better know the first

504
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Speaker 1: and second rounders like the back of your hand. You

505
00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:46,479
Speaker 1: better understand the rankings and the values of those guys

506
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Speaker 1: to no end, because those are the guys that make

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Speaker 1: or break your team. Those are the guys that consistently

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Speaker 1: become Pro bowlers and all pros. Those are the guys

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Speaker 1: you pay the most money. You better get that right.

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Speaker 1: I would spend if I ran a team of my

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Speaker 1: time on the higher end guys first, second and third rounds,

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Speaker 1: then on the other rounds. Now, I'm with you. The

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Speaker 1: scouts spend some time they can bang the table for

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Speaker 1: those guys. That's where you lean on them. But I

515
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Speaker 1: don't lose that much sleep if some guard you draft

516
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Speaker 1: in the fifth round is not that good, because I'll

517
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Speaker 1: just cut him. Now. You can say it's wasted draft capital. Sure,

518
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Speaker 1: but if I find an undrafted free agent that's better

519
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Speaker 1: with that guy, who cares? I mean, seriously, who cares.

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Speaker 1: But if I miss on my second round pick and

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Speaker 1: then the following second round pick is Juju Smith and

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Speaker 1: I took a receiver, we got a problem. We got

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Speaker 1: a problem. If I took a linebacker and the next

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Speaker 1: second round pick is Bobby Wagner, we got issues. But

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Speaker 1: if that's the same thing in the six or seventh round,

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Speaker 1: I'm not as mad, but I'm piste off if that's

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Speaker 1: in the high rounds. Two fold. One, I'm depending on

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Speaker 1: those guys, and two, I'm paying them a lot of money.

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Speaker 1: It matters, It really does. Look at why the Dallas

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Speaker 1: Cowboys got pretty good overnight, you know, not overnight, but

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Speaker 1: during the latter Tony Romo years in the Dak Prescott

532
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Speaker 1: they hit on a bunch of first second round picks.

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Speaker 1: All those guys became impact players. That's where you get

534
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Speaker 1: the majority of your impact players. Now you can give

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00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:20,400
Speaker 1: me the stats that in the league is later round picks. Yeah,

536
00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:25,280
Speaker 1: those are average, replaceable starters. Those are replaceable players. Now

537
00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:28,720
Speaker 1: they're starting, they're playing. But the core of Belichick's team

538
00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:31,600
Speaker 1: and Brady's an outlier. Gronkowski is a second round pick.

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00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:34,280
Speaker 1: Mccordy was a high round pick. High Tower was a

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Speaker 1: higher round pick. Edelman's you know, an outlier. Yeah, they

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Speaker 1: got a great player in the seventh round, right, he's

542
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Speaker 1: an outlier. Gilmore, who they signed for forty million, was

543
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Speaker 1: the first round pick. The majority of their core good players,

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Speaker 1: Sony Michelle last year crushed it in the UH in

545
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Speaker 1: the postseason, first round pick, and they got Belichick. I

546
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Speaker 1: even say Belichick's kind of an outlier. That team's an outlier.

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Speaker 1: Most of the time. Your best players are higher round

548
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Speaker 1: draft picks, your impact guys. So yeah, if you take

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Speaker 1: a fifth round pick, I don't view it like middle

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00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:11,040
Speaker 1: colf I got a lot of this. Why aren't you

551
00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:13,640
Speaker 1: giving the forty Niners ship. They took a potter, Well,

552
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Speaker 1: if the potter sucks, I'll destroy him. But as of

553
00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:18,320
Speaker 1: right now, I don't care. Like, take a potter in

554
00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:20,800
Speaker 1: the fourth round. He just better be good. But I

555
00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:24,359
Speaker 1: don't really have an opinion. My my takes and opinions

556
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:27,720
Speaker 1: on value and stuff, and when Saturday morning of the

557
00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:30,960
Speaker 1: draft starts, that will never change. And that's because all

558
00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:34,320
Speaker 1: my opinions on value and takes on players early in

559
00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:38,720
Speaker 1: drafts are all financial based. That's what That's what we

560
00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:41,680
Speaker 1: talk about at the Big Boy NFL table. How does

561
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Speaker 1: the economics this? This is not you know, peewee football

562
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:49,400
Speaker 1: in Sacramento, California. This is the National Football League where

563
00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:51,600
Speaker 1: you have a salary cap and you pay players millions

564
00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:55,920
Speaker 1: of dollars, and you allocate certain numbers to certain players,

565
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Speaker 1: and when you draft a guy in the first round,

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Speaker 1: especially high in the first round, you at a lot

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00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:05,520
Speaker 1: of money to them. So the financial implications matter. Now,

568
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:08,040
Speaker 1: if you're paying certain guys a lot of money, you

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Speaker 1: have to hit on third, fourth rounders, for sure. I'm

570
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Speaker 1: not denying that, but I I worry most about your

571
00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:16,880
Speaker 1: first round pick. You get your first round picks right.

572
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Speaker 1: If you hit on your first round picks for the

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Speaker 1: most part, your team's gonna be Okay. Okay, let's get

574
00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:27,360
Speaker 1: into Tyreek Hill, who I think was the big news

575
00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:33,400
Speaker 1: of this weekend off the field. Your story broke right

576
00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:37,200
Speaker 1: before the draft. Actually the tape came out. I haven't

577
00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:39,720
Speaker 1: even heard it yet, just seeing the highlights of him

578
00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:42,000
Speaker 1: talking to his ex girlfriend or his wife or I

579
00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:44,920
Speaker 1: don't even know who about how he beat his child.

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00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:52,680
Speaker 1: The quotes I heard are you know, disgusting, disturbing. Again,

581
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Speaker 1: we all agree on this ship I always struggle with

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Speaker 1: There is not a human in my life that can

583
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Speaker 1: read the quotes from coming from Tyreek hills fiance girlfriend

584
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Speaker 1: whatever about his son and not be deeply disturbed. Literally,

585
00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:12,800
Speaker 1: not a human. But everyone's crushing the chiefs, everyone crushing

586
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Speaker 1: the NFL, and they suspended him indefinitely. First off, the

587
00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:20,160
Speaker 1: number one thing that should happen here is society and

588
00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:23,680
Speaker 1: the laws in Kansas City should arrest him or find

589
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Speaker 1: a way to get him in trouble like this is

590
00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:29,720
Speaker 1: not the NFL is not the law, so it starts there. Now,

591
00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:33,040
Speaker 1: you can have the Flourios of the world pearl clutching

592
00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:37,400
Speaker 1: and claim that they'll quit their job if Tyreek Hill

593
00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:39,480
Speaker 1: is allowed to play again. It's a bull face lie.

594
00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:42,040
Speaker 1: They like their money too much. But it's cool to

595
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Speaker 1: tweet that, you know, and get on your moral high

596
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Speaker 1: horse and act like you're better than everyone else. I

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00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:50,000
Speaker 1: get it, and I think the Chiefs, you know, could

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Speaker 1: they have cut him immediately? Do I understand where in

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00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:55,760
Speaker 1: a perfect world they want this to play out, that

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Speaker 1: he's innocent, because at the end of the day, non quarterback,

601
00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:04,400
Speaker 1: you know, he might be the best non quarterback offensive

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00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:07,959
Speaker 1: player in the NFL, easily, the most dynamic and probably

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00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:11,960
Speaker 1: the most unstoppable. Now, if any of that stuff is true,

604
00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:14,880
Speaker 1: and it seems like he was in the video, it

605
00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:16,920
Speaker 1: feels like it's true, I don't see how he ever

606
00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:20,560
Speaker 1: plays in the NFL again. Now, when you're that good,

607
00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:24,040
Speaker 1: it's hard to ever say never. And I'm never comfortable

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00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:28,160
Speaker 1: saying never. I also, I'm not a father yet, but

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Speaker 1: I can't even imagine. I think the parents probably look

610
00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:33,840
Speaker 1: at this. You know, this guy was broke the kid's arm.

611
00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:36,040
Speaker 1: He had him like spread his arms so we could

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00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:39,840
Speaker 1: punch him in the chest. I mean, just disturbing, disturbing stuff.

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00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:43,360
Speaker 1: If this stuff is true, Tyreek Hills as big of

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Speaker 1: a piece of ship as we have in America, and

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00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:48,040
Speaker 1: I don't know where you live, we got a lot

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00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:51,320
Speaker 1: of them, so we we have an abundance of him.

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00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:53,600
Speaker 1: He's right up there he should not play in the

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00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:58,440
Speaker 1: NFL again. But first and foremost, before the floorials of

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Speaker 1: the world start freaking out about are Hunt of the

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00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:05,280
Speaker 1: Chiefs and they've suspended them indefinitely. It is on society

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Speaker 1: and the judicial system, which I don't know that much about,

622
00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:11,040
Speaker 1: but I know enough that that's a legit crime and

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Speaker 1: this guy should go to jail, and if the girl

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00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:15,200
Speaker 1: had anything to do with it, she should go to jail.

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00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:18,960
Speaker 1: Two Like, they are a threat to society if that's

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00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:21,440
Speaker 1: what they're doing with the kid. Again, I don't know

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00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:25,400
Speaker 1: who doesn't have that opinion. Now, the Chiefs, you have

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00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:29,000
Speaker 1: to understand this when you are that's their employee, and

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Speaker 1: he is beside Mahomes, their most talented employee. So in

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Speaker 1: a perfect world, I get where they're keeping their fingers crossed.

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Speaker 1: This is all made up, And really it's an easy

632
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:39,760
Speaker 1: thing to do because it's the off season. You just

633
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:43,200
Speaker 1: suspend them indefinitely. But I think it's fair to say

634
00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:45,240
Speaker 1: because they've already done it with Kareem Hunt the video

635
00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:48,520
Speaker 1: came out they kicked him off the team that if

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00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:51,920
Speaker 1: this stuff is true, and first and foremost, society and

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00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:55,080
Speaker 1: the law should do something about it. Don't get rid

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Speaker 1: of them, and then it'll be like, would anyone else

639
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Speaker 1: ever sign this guy again? I think we all look

640
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:03,320
Speaker 1: at John Dorsey and go, he might. I wouldn't put

641
00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:07,320
Speaker 1: it past him. But I think that our first reaction,

642
00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:10,600
Speaker 1: and maybe it's just social media and Twitter and the

643
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:13,600
Speaker 1: Floridas of the world, is we love pointing the finger.

644
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:18,640
Speaker 1: Like the NFL they just believe in domestic violence of

645
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Speaker 1: beating children. No they don't, but there that's not their job.

646
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:25,520
Speaker 1: That their job is to not play moral compass of society.

647
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Speaker 1: Their job is to figure out a way to win

648
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Speaker 1: football games. So I understand it, and I and I

649
00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:35,520
Speaker 1: see so many people in the media constantly say this

650
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:39,120
Speaker 1: is not okay. It isn't not okay. Yeah, I would agree,

651
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:42,360
Speaker 1: but it doesn't. People still watch and at the end

652
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:45,560
Speaker 1: of the day, like every Kansas City Chiefs fan with

653
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Speaker 1: half a brain would admit, if this stuff is true,

654
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Speaker 1: he's one of the biggest scumbags on earth. Like, there's

655
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Speaker 1: not We're not arguing over that. I just hope that

656
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Speaker 1: the people in Kansas City, the law can get to

657
00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:02,520
Speaker 1: the boy him of this and arrest someone. If someone's

658
00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:04,959
Speaker 1: beating the ship out of this kid, that's not okay.

659
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Speaker 1: But that's I got news for you. I I'm not

660
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Speaker 1: trying to be like some Andy Reid or Vach defender here,

661
00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:14,600
Speaker 1: but it's not like their job to really dive into

662
00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:17,960
Speaker 1: all the details. Like just like Luke Walton right now,

663
00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:20,600
Speaker 1: right up the street from me is being accused of

664
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Speaker 1: pinning this girl down, trying to kiss her, sexual assault.

665
00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:26,640
Speaker 1: Like all even defend the NBA here, who gets a

666
00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:29,719
Speaker 1: pass on everything, But it's not necessarily their job to

667
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Speaker 1: figure out whether he did it or not. That's the

668
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Speaker 1: police's job. Like, that is the police's role in this world. Now,

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Speaker 1: if it's clear that he did it, and the chiefs

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Speaker 1: keep him on the team, then yeah, I'll say, you know,

671
00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:45,840
Speaker 1: it's pretty messed up. Clearly they don't care. Then no

672
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Speaker 1: longer can they get on their moral high wars. But

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Speaker 1: I think right now they had their information. I've known

674
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Speaker 1: Brett Vach for ten years. He said, we found out

675
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Speaker 1: we heard the audio when you were the audio. I

676
00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:59,239
Speaker 1: think we often think that all these teams have all

677
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Speaker 1: this secret inform. Sometimes they do, sometimes they don't. Like

678
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:06,799
Speaker 1: sometimes the journalists, local journalists and whoever are just good

679
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:09,240
Speaker 1: at getting the information. They're able to find it before

680
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Speaker 1: anyone else does. And that's what it kind of feels

681
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:15,280
Speaker 1: like happen. Now, if he's guilty of this, you shouldn't

682
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Speaker 1: just be cut from the team. He should go to jail.

683
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Speaker 1: Should go to jail. So we should stop wasting time

684
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Speaker 1: like Chiefs right or wrong, this guy should be in jail.

685
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:26,080
Speaker 1: It should be that simple. And I think it's a

686
00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:28,520
Speaker 1: big blow for the Chiefs from a football standpoint is

687
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Speaker 1: this guy is the most dynamic player in the league

688
00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:33,640
Speaker 1: and there's no way Pat Mahomes throwing fifty touchdowns with

689
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Speaker 1: this guy gone. They drafted I brought the name up here.

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Speaker 1: His name is McCole Hardman. Yeah, the chief draft in

691
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Speaker 1: the second round, pick pick of the second round. He

692
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Speaker 1: ran a four three And the way lanzer Line, who

693
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Speaker 1: does all these write ups for NFL dot Com, he

694
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Speaker 1: Hardman could develop into a lesser version of Tyreek Hill.

695
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Speaker 1: And this was before the draft. So the Chiefs are

696
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Speaker 1: kind of even acknowledging this guy's probably gone. Their lines

697
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:08,880
Speaker 1: comparison in here was Tyler Lockett, so that it's pretty

698
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Speaker 1: clear that Tyreek kills Day's more than likely are numbered.

699
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Speaker 1: And again back to what I've said a million times

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Speaker 1: so far. If he's guilty, he shouldn't just be out

701
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Speaker 1: of the NFL, he should be in jail. And again,

702
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Speaker 1: I think everyone listening will share that opinion. Okay, let's

703
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Speaker 1: go a little middlecoff mail bag, a little draft middlecoff

704
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Speaker 1: mail bag. I banged out so many questions the last

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Speaker 1: couple of weeks. Uh, And I've answered a lot of

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Speaker 1: you guys personally since the draft started. So we just

707
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:39,480
Speaker 1: got a couple here. You can always the way I

708
00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:42,080
Speaker 1: do this for you, you guys that are new, I

709
00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:45,280
Speaker 1: go to Instagram. My d m s are wide open,

710
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Speaker 1: and I'll let you slide right into those d m

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00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:52,960
Speaker 1: s and then I answer your questions. Okay, one question, uh,

712
00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:56,160
Speaker 1: to overlook the Giant saga. I really feel they're building

713
00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:58,400
Speaker 1: a team, a real team now that they have a

714
00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:01,080
Speaker 1: young quarterback and running back of the future. I think

715
00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:04,279
Speaker 1: people are overlooking the process of team building. Yeah, they

716
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:06,799
Speaker 1: missed out on Sam Donald, that's pretty big mess, but

717
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:09,280
Speaker 1: they also but he has also unproven in the league.

718
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Speaker 1: What do you think? Go Chargers? So this is an

719
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Speaker 1: even Giants fan. I get it in theory, but I

720
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Speaker 1: just I'm not a believer in Daniel Jones and I

721
00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:22,680
Speaker 1: don't like overdrafting Daniel Jones. Think about this, how many

722
00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:26,920
Speaker 1: players when January first hits? So we have the entire

723
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Speaker 1: college football season and we know the quarterbacks that are

724
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Speaker 1: coming out, do we go, yeah, that guy? Are we

725
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Speaker 1: not talking about his first round picks at quarterback? And

726
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:40,680
Speaker 1: I don't think anyone was talking about Daniel Jones quarterback

727
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Speaker 1: in the NFL on social media. I just I don't know, man.

728
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Speaker 1: Sae Kwon Barkley is a stud. If you are going

729
00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:52,960
Speaker 1: to pass on a quarterback for a running back, he

730
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Speaker 1: better be Sae Kwon Barkley. So they hit on, but

731
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Speaker 1: no one last year argued that Sae Kwon Barkley wasn't sweet,

732
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Speaker 1: Like that wasn't our issue with thanking Sake When we

733
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Speaker 1: get taken Sakewon Berkley, it was taking a running back

734
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Speaker 1: over quarterback. So and here's the other thing. Dave Gettleman

735
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Speaker 1: said that he might sit three years now if they're

736
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Speaker 1: out of it. I would imagine this guy's gonna play,

737
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:15,239
Speaker 1: you know, this year, but he's not beating out of

738
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Speaker 1: Eli Manning. Even as terrible as Eli Manning is. I

739
00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:21,319
Speaker 1: just to me just taking him at six and not

740
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Speaker 1: take it you could add Josh Allen and Daniel Jones

741
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Speaker 1: or you know whoever and Oliver. Instead, you have Daniel

742
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Speaker 1: Jones and a three pound defensive tackle that can't rush

743
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Speaker 1: the pastor so. I don't know, man, I hear you

744
00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:39,279
Speaker 1: in theory. Yeah, building a team the right way. I

745
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:41,320
Speaker 1: don't love their coach. I don't like their GM. I

746
00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:45,920
Speaker 1: think the Giants are screwed. Saints GM Mickey Loomis is

747
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:48,440
Speaker 1: highly regarded, but he has always trades up in the

748
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:51,399
Speaker 1: draft and has one good draft in the past five

749
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:54,520
Speaker 1: plus bad free agent moves. Jerious Bird, what do you

750
00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:57,879
Speaker 1: think of the Saints drafting strategy and Loomis? Overall? Love

751
00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:02,520
Speaker 1: the pod? Thanks man uh up. I thought last year

752
00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:04,160
Speaker 1: he just took a bold swing, and I think he

753
00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:06,920
Speaker 1: might have missed because I thought that they thought they

754
00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:09,959
Speaker 1: were a player away. Now they're gonna be very good

755
00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:13,520
Speaker 1: this year, and sometimes it takes a guy a little

756
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:17,120
Speaker 1: bit of time to take a step. Marcus Davenport was

757
00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:19,279
Speaker 1: unique in the sense that he was what was he

758
00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:23,040
Speaker 1: from Texas El Paso or I mean Texas and Antonio.

759
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:27,920
Speaker 1: He wasn't coming from Alabama or Oklahoma or USC. He

760
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:30,120
Speaker 1: was coming from a tiny school so I'm gonna give

761
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:32,239
Speaker 1: him one more year to judge him. But that was

762
00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:34,879
Speaker 1: a big freaking move because that cost him a first

763
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:36,680
Speaker 1: round pick, and they're a team that spends a lot

764
00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:38,600
Speaker 1: of money, so that first round picks kind of big.

765
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:43,440
Speaker 1: To me, they swung for the fences. Now you can

766
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Speaker 1: say they kind of got screwed this year by the call,

767
00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:50,080
Speaker 1: which they did, but like to me, they had a

768
00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:52,080
Speaker 1: two or three year window. Drew Brees still playing at

769
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Speaker 1: a high level, kind of had some signs last year

770
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Speaker 1: of decline. But if they win it this year, it'll

771
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Speaker 1: be it'll be worth it. But they gotta win. They

772
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Speaker 1: at least got to get to the super Bowl. So

773
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Speaker 1: if in two years they went to the conference championship

774
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:07,239
Speaker 1: game and then a super Bowl, I think it will

775
00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:08,879
Speaker 1: be worth it. I think he does a good job,

776
00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:11,680
Speaker 1: but I also think you can take some crazy swings

777
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Speaker 1: when you have, you know, a top three or four

778
00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:18,040
Speaker 1: head coach in the league and you know a top

779
00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:20,440
Speaker 1: three or four quarterback in the league, and like you said,

780
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Speaker 1: he did just come off a really good draft. Lattimore

781
00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:26,680
Speaker 1: is a stud. Uh, the safety from from Utah that

782
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:30,120
Speaker 1: screwed up the game. A couple of years ago against Minnesota. Uh,

783
00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:33,760
Speaker 1: what's his Name's Mike Williams or something, Williams, Stevie Williams,

784
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:36,440
Speaker 1: whatever his name. He's a good player. Obviously, the tackle

785
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Speaker 1: they got at the end of the first round is

786
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Speaker 1: a good player. They got a really good team. Uh,

787
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Speaker 1: seems like you have a really good work ethic. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean something might say that. Any advice you'd give

789
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Speaker 1: a young hustler trying to make it, you know, it

790
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:55,200
Speaker 1: just depends what you're doing. Just keep hustling. I mean,

791
00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:57,960
Speaker 1: every day I'm shooting out emails, I get a lot

792
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Speaker 1: more nose than I do. Yes, is you know, whether

793
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:03,359
Speaker 1: it's chasing business for my other podcast, whether It'ssassin Girls Out,

794
00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:05,680
Speaker 1: whether it's you know, trying to grow a business. Whatever.

795
00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:09,680
Speaker 1: You know, nose aren't the worst thing you're gonna get

796
00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:13,000
Speaker 1: some nose. I get way more nose every day than

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00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:16,680
Speaker 1: I do, yeses. So it's just you'd be relentless. Whatever

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Speaker 1: you want to do. I don't even know. You want

799
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Speaker 1: to work in sports media, you want to work in

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00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:22,560
Speaker 1: Wall Street, whatever you want to do, just every day,

801
00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:26,279
Speaker 1: just just bring it. Eventually she was like, yeah, I'll

802
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:28,960
Speaker 1: go on a date with you. Yeah, we'll sponsor your podcast.

803
00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:32,160
Speaker 1: You know you'll eventually get yeses. You just gotta keep asking,

804
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:34,839
Speaker 1: you know, and keep you know, spread a wide net,

805
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:39,319
Speaker 1: you know, diversify again. You get a lot of nos

806
00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:41,520
Speaker 1: in in in any walk of life. I get a

807
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:45,200
Speaker 1: lot of nose still to this day, in business and

808
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:48,879
Speaker 1: what I'm doing. It happens literally all the time. I'm

809
00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:53,600
Speaker 1: turned down on and off the podcast. That's okay, I

810
00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:56,080
Speaker 1: got I got thick skin. Before the draft, I was

811
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Speaker 1: worried the Raiders would be the Gruden Show. After watching

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Speaker 1: Mayak at the presser at the press or, it seems

813
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:04,680
Speaker 1: like mack provided silence to the organizational chaos. Yeah. I

814
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:06,919
Speaker 1: think Max is a really high level guy. He knows

815
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Speaker 1: what he's doing. He's a good drafter, he's smart. I

816
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:13,919
Speaker 1: thought his draft was pretty basic, like they didn't take

817
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:17,240
Speaker 1: huge swings for the fences. They just tried to hit doubles.

818
00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:22,120
Speaker 1: But I think he helps come John Gruden down for sure.

819
00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:25,640
Speaker 1: Uh to me, he gives the team a spokesman. Two.

820
00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:29,279
Speaker 1: Reggie Mackenzie refused to talk in two thousand nineteen. Your

821
00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:33,000
Speaker 1: GM has to be able to speak. You can't just

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Speaker 1: hide from the media. This isn't just I'm just gonna

823
00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:37,600
Speaker 1: watch tape. I don't want to talk to the media agents.

824
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:41,680
Speaker 1: You gotta be dynamic. This is this is an entertainment league.

825
00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:44,440
Speaker 1: You know, I need your GM to be a speaker,

826
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Speaker 1: and may I can speak, and he also can evaluate.

827
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Speaker 1: So I thought Max press conference. If you like football,

828
00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:53,640
Speaker 1: you know, you don't even need to like the Raiders.

829
00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:57,000
Speaker 1: Just watch his press conference. It's just it's entertaining because

830
00:42:57,040 --> 00:42:59,400
Speaker 1: he speaks on guys. He goes in depth on guys.

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Speaker 1: He's just good man, He's just he. If Gruden gives

832
00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:07,319
Speaker 1: him the latitude, he will be successful. Hey, John, love

833
00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:09,439
Speaker 1: the pod? Me too. What are your thoughts on letting

834
00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:14,759
Speaker 1: players suspected of domestic violence here? I think my my

835
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:17,680
Speaker 1: foods here once I'm gonna pause the podcast. Well it

836
00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:21,320
Speaker 1: turns out that wasn't my food. It was the driver

837
00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:24,520
Speaker 1: saying that they canceled my order. So what a disaster.

838
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to go get some food after this.

839
00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:29,680
Speaker 1: But get back to that question. What are your thoughts

840
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Speaker 1: on letting players suspected of domestic violence continue to play

841
00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:36,800
Speaker 1: while their court cases play out If a team takes

842
00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:39,680
Speaker 1: that risk by not immediately cutting the player in question,

843
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:43,560
Speaker 1: and they are then convicted in a state or federal court,

844
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:46,280
Speaker 1: the team would lose the roster spot for the remainder

845
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Speaker 1: of the year. Wouldn't this make coaches and GM's second

846
00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:54,319
Speaker 1: guest keeping or signing a troubled player but payoff in

847
00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:57,439
Speaker 1: situations like Ruben Foster would love to hear your thoughts

848
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Speaker 1: on this kind of like, I think you're onto something here.

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Speaker 1: I do think this is tough though, because you're asking

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Speaker 1: these teams then to kind of play law. I don't

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Speaker 1: know how what the right or wrong way to handle

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Speaker 1: this is because I saw it with Ruben Foster. The

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Speaker 1: forty Niners cut them now they cut him for being

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Speaker 1: an idiot, not because they believe the girl, because the

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Speaker 1: girl had a history of lying. And if Ruben Foster

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Speaker 1: has proven right where it does feel like Tyreek Kill

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Speaker 1: has a proven track record of the other way right

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Speaker 1: of physically abusing people. Uh, maybe you get convicted of

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Speaker 1: domestic violence, you immediately get a five year suspension or

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Speaker 1: your banned for life. Maybe just do that you touch

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Speaker 1: another woman or I don't know if domestic violence is

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Speaker 1: that just you know, a significant other, girlfriend of wife.

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Speaker 1: You touch a woman or a child, you're suspended for life.

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Speaker 1: Maybe you just make it black and white. That way,

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Speaker 1: the teams don't need to worry about it. You just go.

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Speaker 1: If this guy is convicted of domestic violence or child abuse,

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Speaker 1: your careers over. To me, they're get in too much

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Speaker 1: like gray area. Like anytime you ask a coach to

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Speaker 1: stay in the gray area with a great player, they're

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Speaker 1: always gonna give that guy some room for error because

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Speaker 1: they want that player. So I'm never I always understand

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Speaker 1: why the guy doesn't immediately get cut in that situation.

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Speaker 1: Now I also understand why fans get mad and people

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Speaker 1: are disturbed by it, because it's disturbing maybe the league

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Speaker 1: in the next c b A. Now i'd say this

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Speaker 1: due the players union. What will they be okay with that?

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Speaker 1: Because he used to blame the league. The players union't

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Speaker 1: get a sigh off on that. You touch another woman,

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Speaker 1: your career is over. I don't know. I would lean

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Speaker 1: probably not, So that's you know. I think unions are

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Speaker 1: a joke to begin with any you know, in any place.

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Speaker 1: But I think the union in the NFL hurts players

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Speaker 1: more than it benefits the players. But I don't know

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Speaker 1: if the union will sign off on that. I'd be

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Speaker 1: off or that you get convicted of domestic violence, you

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Speaker 1: you're banned from the NFL for life. You you physically

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Speaker 1: abuse a child and convicted of it, banned for life.

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00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:13,560
Speaker 1: Those two things pretty black and white. I think the

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Speaker 1: NFL would get a lot of credit on that. Now, again,

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Speaker 1: would the union sign off on it? I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I I doubt it, to be honestly you I I

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Speaker 1: truly doubt it because they don't. They always lean on

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Speaker 1: the side of players. They don't want players to not play,

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Speaker 1: let's just call it. They want them to be able

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Speaker 1: to generate money. They probably wouldn't like a zero tolerance policy,

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Speaker 1: as crazy as that sounds, but I would lean they wouldn't.

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Speaker 1: But it's a fascinating topic and it's something the NFL

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Speaker 1: needs to think about in this next cb A just

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Speaker 1: to avoid these problems. Uh, you're convicted in the NFL,

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Speaker 1: You're you're banned for life. Because I do think some

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Speaker 1: of these situations, like Jeffrey Simmons saw the video during

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Speaker 1: the Draft that happened in high school. I am a

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Speaker 1: believer in second chances. You know what's weird about the

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Speaker 1: sports media that they tend to just skeew extreme liberals,

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Speaker 1: they never want to give any of these people's second chances, like,

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Speaker 1: and I guess I would skew a little. I'm middle

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Speaker 1: of the road, but I'm more a believer in second chances. Like,

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Speaker 1: how can you be extreme liberal and not be open

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00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:13,960
Speaker 1: second chances, yet you always want to let criminals out

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Speaker 1: of jail. I'm always kind of confused by that kind

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00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:19,799
Speaker 1: of hypocritical Uh. And maybe it's just you know, most

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00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:22,120
Speaker 1: coaches and most gems are believers and second chances now

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Speaker 1: as long as you're talented. But that's the nature of

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Speaker 1: the business. I do think the league should look into it, though.

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Speaker 1: That's that's interesting. Appreciate everyone listening. I'll be back again

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Speaker 1: later in the week. I have to figure out a

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Speaker 1: way to you know, probably started doing some interviews now,

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Speaker 1: mix it up a little bit. Excited for this time

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