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Speaker 3: Hi ros Lends.

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Speaker 1: Please, Hey boo, it's me Roz. Welcome to this month's

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Speaker 1: Listener phone call Extravaganza, the twenty eighth one if you

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Speaker 1: my new weekly podcast where I learn about paranormal phenomena

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Speaker 1: and I get real loose on there. I do about

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Speaker 1: forty minutes a week, and I don't know. I cracked

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Speaker 1: myself up. I think it's fun and I'm learning and

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Speaker 1: you can learn with me. Anyway, here we go. We

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Speaker 1: Phone Call Extravaganza, Part twenty eight. On with the show

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Speaker 1: A Tessa in Oakland, California. How are you?

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Speaker 2: I'm great?

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Speaker 3: Are you?

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Speaker 1: I'm so good? You've had some freaky stuff happened to

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Speaker 1: you and I want to hear it. So where do

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Speaker 2: Do you want to start with my ghost story or

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Speaker 2: like my childhood weirdness?

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Speaker 1: I don't know. You tell me.

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Speaker 2: Let's let's do the ghost story because it's it's a

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 2: So I was at this guy's house and he went

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Speaker 2: And I was like, oh, hi, could you not talk

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Speaker 2: And when he came back, I told him about it,

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Speaker 1: Wait a minute, Okay, this is like like a movie

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Speaker 2: It was just a dream. I've been there before in

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Speaker 1: You're in the future.

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Speaker 1: Oh my, Kathy, that's the whole reason I called. Well,

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Speaker 4: Oh?

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Speaker 1: Okay, was it a ghost child or what was it?

441
00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:58,520
Speaker 3: Well, I don't know. It was like and so things

442
00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:02,159
Speaker 3: just got a little bit weird and weird, and I personally, like,

443
00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:06,760
Speaker 3: I kind of blame my my boyfriend at the time

444
00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:11,480
Speaker 3: because he kept antagonizing it. So every time he stayed

445
00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:13,879
Speaker 3: over and every time he heard something or saw something,

446
00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:17,040
Speaker 3: he he would just start yelling at the ghost and

447
00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:20,000
Speaker 3: be like, get the f out of here and go

448
00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:22,280
Speaker 3: away and all this other stuff, and then as he

449
00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:25,320
Speaker 3: was doing that, like a ghost brow or something, it

450
00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:26,560
Speaker 3: would end up getting worse.

451
00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:31,280
Speaker 1: And so yeah, I feel like that's usually what you

452
00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:34,080
Speaker 1: do when the cameras are rolling and you want to

453
00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:37,240
Speaker 1: try to get a ghost or a demon to scratch you.

454
00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:40,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I kind of wish it would have, like

455
00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:43,080
Speaker 3: it would have probably actually given me some red flags

456
00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:45,040
Speaker 3: about him at the time and probably would have kind

457
00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:49,000
Speaker 3: of changed the next few months. But like, but yeah, no,

458
00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:53,760
Speaker 3: unfortunately it didn't attack him. Instead, it just kind of

459
00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:59,240
Speaker 3: made bigger kind of gestures and probably maybe not even

460
00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:01,680
Speaker 3: It was like ap and my mom had already left,

461
00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:04,440
Speaker 3: and then with my dog, and then my friends from

462
00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:08,560
Speaker 3: high school came to visit. They were sleeping in my

463
00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:12,560
Speaker 3: living room and they woke up screaming because all of

464
00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:16,920
Speaker 3: the knobs in my apartment were shaking, just randomly shaking,

465
00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:20,520
Speaker 3: and they were like, what is going on here? And

466
00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:23,080
Speaker 3: then I was like, okay, I things are getting a

467
00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:25,399
Speaker 3: bit escalated here. I don't know what's going to happen.

468
00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:31,080
Speaker 3: After they left, I was like, okay, maybe let's like

469
00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:34,119
Speaker 3: just kind of chill for a bit, like this is

470
00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:37,040
Speaker 3: my space, this is your space, like, let's keep it cool.

471
00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:41,119
Speaker 3: And then again my partner was just kind of yelling

472
00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:45,840
Speaker 3: at it, making it worse. And then one night like

473
00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:49,080
Speaker 3: this is probably this still gives me chills when I

474
00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:52,560
Speaker 3: think about it, because this is what really tips me

475
00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:56,960
Speaker 3: over the edge with it. So I'm sitting at my

476
00:27:57,040 --> 00:28:02,640
Speaker 3: apartment and like, all of a sudden, I hear this

477
00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:06,439
Speaker 3: massive crash in the kitchen and like almost there's just

478
00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:10,359
Speaker 3: the cabinet broke and all my dishes crashed, like just broke,

479
00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:12,560
Speaker 3: and I was like, oh my god, what is happening here.

480
00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:18,120
Speaker 3: I go into the kitchen and rab I opened the cabinet.

481
00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:25,000
Speaker 1: Nothing has moved, Kathy, How did that happen?

482
00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:29,679
Speaker 3: I don't know. It's like it's like it decided to

483
00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:33,439
Speaker 3: make the sound of like clanking all my plates together.

484
00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:35,439
Speaker 3: I don't know if it picks up my plate, I

485
00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:38,840
Speaker 3: don't but it sounded like all the plates had dropped

486
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:39,520
Speaker 3: and smashed.

487
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:44,200
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm extra freaked out because I didn't want to

488
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:47,800
Speaker 1: cut you off earlier, but I heard something fall in

489
00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:54,520
Speaker 1: my shower like five minutes ago. Now I did just

490
00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:56,880
Speaker 1: take a shower, so I don't know what it was.

491
00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:59,080
Speaker 1: Maybe it was some shampoo or I don't know, but

492
00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:01,600
Speaker 1: I'm really freaking out, Kathy.

493
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:04,240
Speaker 3: I'm so sorry.

494
00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:09,720
Speaker 1: That's literally what I asked for. So was that the

495
00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:11,360
Speaker 1: last thing that happened.

496
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:16,040
Speaker 3: Yeah. So after that, I was like, I have to go.

497
00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:20,920
Speaker 3: I can't. But like the problem is like with leases,

498
00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:23,200
Speaker 3: like if you try and leave your leaf, like you

499
00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:25,880
Speaker 3: get charged for it or like you sti't say no

500
00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:28,520
Speaker 3: and you have to pay a big feat And so

501
00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:30,960
Speaker 3: I had to make up this wild story because I

502
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:33,960
Speaker 3: couldn't like I had a wild story, but I couldn't

503
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:36,280
Speaker 3: go to the agent and be like this place was

504
00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:41,479
Speaker 3: haunted and I have to go. So I ended up

505
00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:44,040
Speaker 3: making out a story that I had to move across

506
00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:48,640
Speaker 3: the world for work and it was out of my control.

507
00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:53,600
Speaker 3: And so the agent like, yeah, totally, that's fine.

508
00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:54,040
Speaker 2: I'm fine.

509
00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:56,240
Speaker 3: I totally get it, and like didn't charge me anything

510
00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:57,640
Speaker 3: for it because she was just like, hey, you have

511
00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:00,520
Speaker 3: to move out of the country, that's the thing. And

512
00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:02,960
Speaker 3: I was kind of always wondering did I manifest that

513
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:05,200
Speaker 3: because less than three years later, my work actually did

514
00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:06,480
Speaker 3: transfer me to Australia.

515
00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:11,440
Speaker 1: Oh my god, the ghost did that? Wait? So but

516
00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:15,520
Speaker 1: you stayed in town, right, Well, I.

517
00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:18,600
Speaker 3: Ended No, I ended up moving in with my boyfriend

518
00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:23,520
Speaker 3: that was yelling at the ghost to Wooster, which was like, also,

519
00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:25,800
Speaker 3: probably not a good idea, Maybe I should Maybe the

520
00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:27,840
Speaker 3: ghost was trying to warn me. I have no idea.

521
00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:31,040
Speaker 1: Now, yeah, it seems like the ghost didn't like your boyfriend.

522
00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:35,520
Speaker 1: But I see. I would be just afraid that I

523
00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:39,080
Speaker 1: would run into that landlord and they'd be like, uh,

524
00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:41,400
Speaker 1: I thought you were supposed to be out of the country.

525
00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:44,160
Speaker 1: I'd be looking for that fee.

526
00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:47,160
Speaker 3: I was always kind of a bit worried about that

527
00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:51,080
Speaker 3: because she did also like Facebook friend me, and I

528
00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:53,040
Speaker 3: was like, she's going to catch on at some point,

529
00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:55,840
Speaker 3: but I'm not place.

530
00:30:57,400 --> 00:30:59,640
Speaker 1: Oh my god, you would have to photoshop pictures of

531
00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:03,160
Speaker 1: you in Ja town or something. I bet you that

532
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:09,280
Speaker 1: the landlord had probably heard it before, like you know,

533
00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:13,080
Speaker 1: like if the house is haunted, she's probably like, well,

534
00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:15,200
Speaker 1: here we go again. What's the excuse going to be

535
00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:17,640
Speaker 1: this time? Why someone wants to move out?

536
00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:21,520
Speaker 3: Could bee? But actually, so this is even this is

537
00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:28,040
Speaker 3: also really strange. I was catching up with my mom

538
00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:31,360
Speaker 3: about a month ago. We met we went back in

539
00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:34,920
Speaker 3: the state, and I just randomly brought it up, being like, hey,

540
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:37,320
Speaker 3: if you ever had a paranormal kind of experience and

541
00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:39,760
Speaker 3: stuff And she's like, no, I don't think so. And

542
00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:42,160
Speaker 3: then I told her about this and I was like,

543
00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:44,480
Speaker 3: do you remember that, Like did you get me weird

544
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:47,920
Speaker 3: vibes during experience from this building? And she was like no,

545
00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:51,560
Speaker 3: I just remember your landlord coming down the stairs and

546
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:54,000
Speaker 3: saying that dogs aren't allowed when I have soar with me.

547
00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:58,520
Speaker 3: And I was like my landlord and she goes, yeah,

548
00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:01,040
Speaker 3: and she describes this woman and I was like, I've

549
00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:02,920
Speaker 3: never seen that woman in my life.

550
00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:09,800
Speaker 1: Mom, Oh my god. Did she say if the woman

551
00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:11,280
Speaker 1: shuffled when she walked?

552
00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:15,160
Speaker 3: She just she was walking down the stairs at the

553
00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:15,680
Speaker 3: time when she.

554
00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:20,440
Speaker 1: Saw That's who it was. That was That was the

555
00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:29,600
Speaker 1: lady so insane? Oh my god. Would you have other stories?

556
00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:31,160
Speaker 5: I do?

557
00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:32,920
Speaker 3: I have some strange wines?

558
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:35,560
Speaker 2: Oh I have.

559
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:42,880
Speaker 3: Oh that? What's that one where you're sleeping and you can't.

560
00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:44,840
Speaker 1: Move sleep paralysis?

561
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:47,280
Speaker 3: Sleep press? I know you hate this wrong. I'm so

562
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:50,880
Speaker 3: farry hate what sweet paralysis?

563
00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:54,760
Speaker 1: Oh no, I love hearing about it. I don't want

564
00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:55,680
Speaker 1: to have it myself.

565
00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:00,880
Speaker 3: So I've never had sweet paralysis before or except this

566
00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:06,160
Speaker 3: one time, and my previous apartment here in Sydney, and

567
00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:10,000
Speaker 3: it freaked me out. I don't know because I was

568
00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:13,560
Speaker 3: maybe listening about it or it was only like like

569
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:19,760
Speaker 3: a year ago. But I was sleeping in bed and

570
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:22,280
Speaker 3: then I hurt. I was I kind of thought. I

571
00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:25,520
Speaker 3: woke up a bit because I heard this like really

572
00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:28,720
Speaker 3: close to my ear, like a like a almost like

573
00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:34,920
Speaker 3: an angry growl, like a raw sound, and so I

574
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:39,120
Speaker 3: woke up, but I couldn't move, and then in my

575
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:41,960
Speaker 3: mind I was like, oh my gosh, there was like

576
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:44,840
Speaker 3: a demon or or something like what do I do?

577
00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:48,200
Speaker 3: And I couldn't move and I tried to say, like

578
00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:52,560
Speaker 3: get off of me, stop, couldn't talk, and so in

579
00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:56,280
Speaker 3: my panic, I was like, what what do people do

580
00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:59,760
Speaker 3: in this sense? I don't know. I grew up Catholic,

581
00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:02,440
Speaker 3: but I like stopped going to church at the age

582
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:06,080
Speaker 3: of eight, and so I couldn't remember anything like prayers.

583
00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:07,920
Speaker 3: I was like, people just say prayers.

584
00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:08,480
Speaker 2: Maybe that will work.

585
00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:13,560
Speaker 3: And so I'm just like in my mind, going, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus,

586
00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:14,640
Speaker 3: is this gonna work.

587
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:18,960
Speaker 1: In the cadence of a prayer?

588
00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:23,000
Speaker 3: And then I was like God, God, God, no, no, no,

589
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:25,399
Speaker 3: still and I still felt like I was being held

590
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:28,359
Speaker 3: down as struggling, and I was just like, I don't

591
00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:35,560
Speaker 3: know any prayers, so I don't Mary, is there can we?

592
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:37,680
Speaker 3: And then it just like it felt like it was

593
00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:42,360
Speaker 3: forever and I was so scared think of like prayers.

594
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:45,759
Speaker 3: I just kept yelling like God and Jesus in my head,

595
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:55,840
Speaker 3: thinking that myself, and then it privately stopped. But it was, Yeah,

596
00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:58,000
Speaker 3: it was bizarre.

597
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:06,120
Speaker 1: I mean, I know it's a it's a very controversial

598
00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 1: topic of is it paranormal is it not? But I

599
00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:12,800
Speaker 1: think that it is. I think I don't see why

600
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:15,160
Speaker 1: being in your dream state does not open you up

601
00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:18,520
Speaker 1: to the other side. I mean, you're not really like

602
00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:26,040
Speaker 1: mentally in this dimension for a moment. Why wouldn't it

603
00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:30,400
Speaker 1: open you up to to other entities?

604
00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:35,279
Speaker 3: I think so too. I mean that time, I'm not

605
00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:38,200
Speaker 3: sure I do that times sticked out to me just

606
00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:40,560
Speaker 3: because it was like the only time I can remember,

607
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:44,200
Speaker 3: And after it ended, I did hear like a like

608
00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:47,719
Speaker 3: a release and that's when I can move again. So

609
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:51,480
Speaker 3: then I was like, something is not right here. But

610
00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:54,600
Speaker 3: it would wouldn't you because if they say, like your

611
00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:57,680
Speaker 3: relatives can visit you in your dreams, it's because you're

612
00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:01,040
Speaker 3: more relaxed and open, So why wouldn't any other paranormal

613
00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:02,080
Speaker 3: experience happened?

614
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:09,520
Speaker 1: I would think absolutely, I agree, seems like that, Well,

615
00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:11,239
Speaker 1: do you have others or should I let you go?

616
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:16,799
Speaker 3: I just I don't really have like full stories like

617
00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:22,399
Speaker 3: I have, like, like just I know one my mom

618
00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:25,080
Speaker 3: was really hopeful for she she got disappointed at the

619
00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:29,200
Speaker 3: end of the story about it was just like sometimes

620
00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:34,360
Speaker 3: I could like smell my grandma, and my grandma passed

621
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:37,000
Speaker 3: away years and years and years ago, but I would

622
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:39,239
Speaker 3: just get this phantom smell and be like, Grandma, are

623
00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:43,360
Speaker 3: you here? Like are you lingering? And it was happening

624
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:46,200
Speaker 3: quite a lot actually around the time of that that

625
00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:51,600
Speaker 3: sleep paralysis thing happening, And so I like, I just

626
00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:53,640
Speaker 3: wonder if she. I always kind of felt like maybe

627
00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:55,960
Speaker 3: she was here, because like her, it was just a

628
00:36:56,040 --> 00:37:00,799
Speaker 3: random really get that phantom like sense, like that that

629
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:03,960
Speaker 3: perfume that just kind of okay to you. You're like,

630
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:04,920
Speaker 3: there's no reason why I.

631
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:07,680
Speaker 1: Would smell that, uh huh.

632
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:10,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, So it was I thought it was her for

633
00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:12,759
Speaker 3: the longest time, and then it would happen at my

634
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:15,359
Speaker 3: new place, and then I realized that my new place

635
00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:18,960
Speaker 3: was actually because my trash bags were road scented and

636
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:21,480
Speaker 3: it was not my grandma. It's just the trash bags.

637
00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:31,440
Speaker 1: Are you saying that your grandma smelled like scented trash?

638
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:35,040
Speaker 3: No, I swear it's not like her at my old place.

639
00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:38,279
Speaker 3: But no, it's just the new place. It just had this. Yeah,

640
00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:38,920
Speaker 3: I don't know.

641
00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:53,080
Speaker 7: Okay, there's a ghost in my house.

642
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:58,520
Speaker 1: Aaron And Ohhio, what's going on?

643
00:37:59,560 --> 00:37:59,759
Speaker 2: Oh?

644
00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:00,560
Speaker 3: No much.

645
00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:02,120
Speaker 4: I'm really excited to be here.

646
00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:07,200
Speaker 1: I am excited too. You're in Ohio, Ohio.

647
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:11,800
Speaker 4: Well, weird places, doing weird things. Even the weather, even

648
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:13,400
Speaker 4: the weather is weird.

649
00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:18,000
Speaker 1: Well, I feel like the weather's weird everywhere at this point,

650
00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:23,279
Speaker 1: and it's only going to get weird, unfortunately. But I

651
00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:27,040
Speaker 1: want to hear your stories. So where do we start?

652
00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:33,600
Speaker 4: So I want to start in Wooster, Ohio. It's a

653
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:39,120
Speaker 4: it's a small little town. It's well, it's growing now.

654
00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:42,240
Speaker 4: But I went to college there back in the early

655
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:45,799
Speaker 4: two thousands. I went to the College of Worcester. And

656
00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:48,560
Speaker 4: it's if you didn't know where you were, you would

657
00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:51,720
Speaker 4: think that you were on you know, like Princeton's campus

658
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:53,680
Speaker 4: or something. It's like they plucked that up and just

659
00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:57,680
Speaker 4: stuck it down in the middle of a cornfield in Ohio. Okay,

660
00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:01,359
Speaker 4: so brick buildings just has like that really, you know,

661
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:02,960
Speaker 4: like stately feel to it.

662
00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:04,840
Speaker 2: So I.

663
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:09,560
Speaker 4: Went to college there from two thousand and two to

664
00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:14,600
Speaker 4: two thousand and six, and there were a couple of

665
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:19,480
Speaker 4: ghost encounters that I had. My freshman dorm room had

666
00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:23,200
Speaker 4: two ghosts. That was a lot of fun.

667
00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:27,600
Speaker 1: Wait, two ghosts in the actual dorm room.

668
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:29,799
Speaker 4: Yes, in my dorm room.

669
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:34,040
Speaker 1: Oh my god. I mean unless you had a big,

670
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:37,760
Speaker 1: unusual dorm room, those are pretty small, so that's uh

671
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:39,799
Speaker 1: to have two ghosts in there.

672
00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:43,880
Speaker 4: Yes, No, it was your average sized, pretty small dorm

673
00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:50,080
Speaker 4: room for me and my roommate. Yeah, there was one

674
00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:52,320
Speaker 4: that would stand kind of like right at the door

675
00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:55,719
Speaker 4: and you would just like be at your desk and

676
00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:58,279
Speaker 4: you would just feel something looking at you. Not not

677
00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:01,520
Speaker 4: you know, harmful or thing, just kind of like, oh, hey,

678
00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:03,760
Speaker 4: I'm curious your hair, what you're doing homework?

679
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:04,120
Speaker 3: Cool?

680
00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:06,880
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, you're on your bed trying to sleep, okay, cool,

681
00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:11,640
Speaker 4: Just just stand there and you would just just feel

682
00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:15,279
Speaker 4: a presence. And my roommate thought I was crazy, but

683
00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:19,000
Speaker 4: there was definitely something there. And anytime it started to

684
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:21,520
Speaker 4: creep me out. I just tur around and be like, Okay,

685
00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:24,800
Speaker 4: it's cool, but I would actually like to be alone now,

686
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:30,760
Speaker 4: and they and it would obligingly leave us. But yeah,

687
00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:36,040
Speaker 4: the really creepy one was in our closet we were

688
00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:38,520
Speaker 4: We were in one of the older dorms that hadn't

689
00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:41,799
Speaker 4: been renovated, so we had an actual walking closet. It

690
00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:45,200
Speaker 4: was tiny, but it was still a walking closet. This

691
00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:49,480
Speaker 4: closet had a door and it creaked all the time,

692
00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:52,840
Speaker 4: but it had this thing where it would never stay shut.

693
00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:56,920
Speaker 4: You had to like close it and like shoulder check it,

694
00:40:57,640 --> 00:40:59,919
Speaker 4: you know, and like really get it to lock into place.

695
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:03,279
Speaker 4: Otherwise that thing was constantly opening up. That wasn't the

696
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:09,360
Speaker 4: creepy part. Whatever was in that closet was not happy.

697
00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:11,920
Speaker 4: It was just like just seemed like whenever I walked

698
00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:14,279
Speaker 4: in there, I just got this feeling it's just sitting there,

699
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:16,280
Speaker 4: like in the back of the closet, just like staring

700
00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:22,560
Speaker 4: at me, like get out. And sometimes I would be,

701
00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 4: you know, in my room, and I would feel it

702
00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:27,799
Speaker 4: like if it could stare daggers through the wall at me,

703
00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:32,680
Speaker 4: like get out. And there was one time a couple

704
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:38,279
Speaker 4: months in, I was in my room alone and I

705
00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:40,160
Speaker 4: went into the closet to get something, and I just

706
00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:43,319
Speaker 4: had this feeling if I turned.

707
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:45,440
Speaker 5: My back on the door when I'm in the.

708
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:49,200
Speaker 4: Closet, that door is going to slam shut and I

709
00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:52,640
Speaker 4: will not be able to get it open. Like just

710
00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:56,600
Speaker 4: just this feeling of this door is going to shut

711
00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:59,520
Speaker 4: and I'm going to be stuck in my room in

712
00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:03,160
Speaker 4: the dark with this thing, and my roommate isn't coming

713
00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:04,280
Speaker 4: back until tomorrow morning.

714
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:06,480
Speaker 7: Yeah, oh my god.

715
00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:09,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, the one time in history that the door will

716
00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:09,720
Speaker 1: stay shut.

717
00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:15,560
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, I have nothing about this door, you know,

718
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:18,040
Speaker 4: said that it would ever swing shut. It was always

719
00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:21,120
Speaker 4: swinging open. But I just felt if I take one

720
00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:23,160
Speaker 4: step in, this door is going to slam shut, and

721
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:25,880
Speaker 4: that's going to be it. So I just said, okay,

722
00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:26,759
Speaker 4: you know what, that's it.

723
00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:27,239
Speaker 2: I'm done.

724
00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:30,560
Speaker 4: I walked out. I went and stayed somewhere else that

725
00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:35,799
Speaker 4: night on campus, and the next day I walked you know,

726
00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:39,080
Speaker 4: I went back to my room and didn't tell Like,

727
00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:41,560
Speaker 4: my roommate thought it was crazy. She didn't think there

728
00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:45,759
Speaker 4: was anything in the closet, but it was definitely there

729
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:48,680
Speaker 4: was definitely something there, but a couple of days later,

730
00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:50,040
Speaker 4: I went back into the closet to guess some me

731
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:54,440
Speaker 4: and I felt that like malevolent thing, and I was like,

732
00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:57,000
Speaker 4: you know what, I've had it. This is my room.

733
00:42:57,239 --> 00:42:58,920
Speaker 3: I actually have to live here.

734
00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:04,120
Speaker 4: Plus I'm eighteen, I'm a college freshman. I am indestructible.

735
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:10,000
Speaker 4: So I simply, uh, I put my back to the closet,

736
00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:11,960
Speaker 4: so I was keeping my eye on the door. I

737
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:16,440
Speaker 4: walked all the way back into the closet, took something

738
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:20,680
Speaker 4: off the shelf, walked straight out, and I never felt

739
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:21,600
Speaker 4: that presence again.

740
00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:27,759
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's what it needed. It needed to be

741
00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:28,680
Speaker 1: put in its place.

742
00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:30,200
Speaker 3: Yeah.

743
00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:33,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, so that was that was pretty crazy.

744
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:38,160
Speaker 1: Do you know of any history or anything that would

745
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:42,080
Speaker 1: lend itself to there being you know, death, sir, I

746
00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:44,240
Speaker 1: don't know anything like that in that room.

747
00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:47,719
Speaker 4: No, I don't. It wasn't the It was one of

748
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:51,000
Speaker 4: the older buildings on campus, but it was a newer

749
00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:53,399
Speaker 4: addition to the building. When I say now, I mean

750
00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:59,560
Speaker 4: like seventy years okay, yeah, this uh the Yeah, the

751
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:03,319
Speaker 4: the campus was founded in like the eighteen sixties, so

752
00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:10,600
Speaker 4: it's old. And then our art building definitely had some

753
00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:13,160
Speaker 4: ghosts on it and there were a lot of stories

754
00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:18,600
Speaker 4: floating around about the ghosts that, you you know, maybe maybe.

755
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:19,120
Speaker 3: They didn't happen.

756
00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:24,080
Speaker 4: But I took a ceramics class and it was down

757
00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:29,360
Speaker 4: in what they said used to be the pool, so

758
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:31,879
Speaker 4: of course there, you know, people would talk about, oh,

759
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:33,560
Speaker 4: you know, people drowned in the pool. And then I

760
00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:35,680
Speaker 4: had other people saying there was never for a pool

761
00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:40,800
Speaker 4: here because they're building Stroe the gymnasium. And whenever I

762
00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:44,360
Speaker 4: would be in there at night working on my projects

763
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:47,960
Speaker 4: by myself, I would just feel like there was just

764
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:50,520
Speaker 4: someone standing in one of the doorways watching me, and

765
00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:53,759
Speaker 4: it would get kind of creepy, you know. You would

766
00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:56,160
Speaker 4: turn around, thinking like, oh, you know, it's you know,

767
00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:59,440
Speaker 4: someone playing a prank. There wouldn't be anyone there, uh.

768
00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:02,240
Speaker 4: And I was good friends with the person who watched

769
00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:04,960
Speaker 4: the door, and I would come up and be like, did.

770
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:05,440
Speaker 5: Someone come down here?

771
00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:06,960
Speaker 4: They're like, no, there's no one else in the building.

772
00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:13,480
Speaker 1: Did you I gotta ask? Did you ever have like

773
00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:17,919
Speaker 1: the pottery wheel moment? Is that what they call those

774
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:19,240
Speaker 1: things from the movie Ghost?

775
00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:23,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, the pottery wheel? No, I never had. I never

776
00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:26,400
Speaker 4: had an instance like that. I've never actually seen anything.

777
00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:32,160
Speaker 4: I've only ever felt, only ever felt things. Yeah, there

778
00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:34,279
Speaker 4: was one. And there was one time I stayed there

779
00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:37,880
Speaker 4: late with a friend of mine who was an art major,

780
00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:39,440
Speaker 4: and she was finishing something up and we were the

781
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:41,960
Speaker 4: last two people in the building and we were in

782
00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:43,920
Speaker 4: the area that used to be the track on the

783
00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:46,880
Speaker 4: first floor, and there was like kind of that wrap

784
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:49,319
Speaker 4: around like mezzanine that you see on like you know,

785
00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:54,440
Speaker 4: above tracks, uh huh, and she and just out of it.

786
00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:56,640
Speaker 4: We were both talking about something and she was cleaning up,

787
00:45:56,640 --> 00:45:58,799
Speaker 4: and all of a sudden, we both just stopped and

788
00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:02,839
Speaker 4: stared up at this shadowy area on the track and

789
00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:06,799
Speaker 4: my friend was like, oh my god, you feel it too,

790
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:12,520
Speaker 4: And we were like, okay, that is just creepy. We're gone,

791
00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:15,239
Speaker 4: We're gone. And I swear as we were walking out

792
00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:19,440
Speaker 4: of there, you could hear someone start to walk toward

793
00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:22,040
Speaker 4: us and then start running toward us. And we were like,

794
00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:25,040
Speaker 4: that's it, we're gone, We're gone, and we ran out

795
00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:25,359
Speaker 4: of there.

796
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:34,759
Speaker 1: No running ghosts allowed. Yeah. Wait, you were telling me

797
00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:36,600
Speaker 1: that you had cat ghosts.

798
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:43,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, so I had two. I had two cats, the

799
00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:46,359
Speaker 4: loves of my life. Unfortunately I lost both of them

800
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:50,240
Speaker 4: in the last two years. From from old age and illness.

801
00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:56,359
Speaker 4: And I definitely, uh, I definitely see them around occasionally

802
00:46:56,360 --> 00:46:59,480
Speaker 4: out of the corner of my eye. I have two,

803
00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:02,759
Speaker 4: I have two kittens now, and it's it's definitely not

804
00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:05,800
Speaker 4: them different coloring. I mean, I'll see something out of

805
00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:08,680
Speaker 4: the corner of my eye. I'll turn around and both

806
00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:13,080
Speaker 4: of them are in front of me, definitely not over

807
00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:19,200
Speaker 4: behind me. Sometimes a I will feel a cat jump

808
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:23,120
Speaker 4: up on the bed and then I will hear both

809
00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:27,840
Speaker 4: of my cats, often in another room. Uh. And the

810
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:34,680
Speaker 4: night I had to put my first baby down, uh,

811
00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:39,000
Speaker 4: I was heartbroken. It was it was it was completely

812
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:42,200
Speaker 4: out of the blue and I had never had to

813
00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:45,880
Speaker 4: put my own animal down before. And I was just sobbing.

814
00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:50,319
Speaker 4: And you'll probably have to put a trigger, a little

815
00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:52,000
Speaker 4: bit of a trigger warning him for this. But as

816
00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:55,759
Speaker 4: I was, you know, holding him, as you know, they

817
00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:59,040
Speaker 4: were putting him to sleep, I told him, you know, uh,

818
00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:00,960
Speaker 4: you know, I love you. I'll never let you go.

819
00:48:02,120 --> 00:48:06,359
Speaker 4: And then later that night in bed, I felt him

820
00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:08,239
Speaker 4: because he would do this, like he would jump up

821
00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:11,240
Speaker 4: and like head butt you. And my other cat didn't

822
00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:13,920
Speaker 4: do that, but I felt him jump up on the

823
00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:16,759
Speaker 4: bed and head butt me, and I told him, when

824
00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:19,160
Speaker 4: I said I'd never let you go, I did. I

825
00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:22,479
Speaker 4: meant that I would always love you. I didn't mean

826
00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:24,759
Speaker 4: that you always had to stay with me. I want

827
00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:27,120
Speaker 4: you to move on if that that's what makes you happy.

828
00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:33,279
Speaker 4: And I felled him jump down and just every and

829
00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:35,160
Speaker 4: now I'll I'll see both of them kind of out

830
00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:37,240
Speaker 4: of the corner of my eye, just kind of keeping

831
00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:37,880
Speaker 4: tabs on me.

832
00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:44,760
Speaker 1: Oh, first of all, sorry, that is that is horrendous

833
00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:48,919
Speaker 1: to have to go through that. Thank you, But it's

834
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:53,440
Speaker 1: so sweet. It's so sweet that there's still checking in.

835
00:48:56,880 --> 00:49:01,560
Speaker 1: I love that. And so the other one too might

836
00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:03,520
Speaker 1: be the one that jumps on the bat as well,

837
00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:04,840
Speaker 1: or what do you think.

838
00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:08,879
Speaker 4: I don't know who will jump up on the bed.

839
00:49:09,640 --> 00:49:11,800
Speaker 4: One of them was a big snuggler, the other one

840
00:49:11,840 --> 00:49:14,680
Speaker 4: wasn't quite as much. But I will see both of

841
00:49:14,719 --> 00:49:17,200
Speaker 4: them out of the corner of my eye. And they

842
00:49:17,239 --> 00:49:20,880
Speaker 4: were both different colorings from the two cats that I

843
00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:26,640
Speaker 4: have now, and they were different sizes. So it's yeah,

844
00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:29,360
Speaker 4: I have definitely seen one out of the corner of

845
00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:33,200
Speaker 4: my eye while I am looking directly at my two

846
00:49:33,239 --> 00:49:34,759
Speaker 4: living cats.

847
00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:43,000
Speaker 1: Oh, I do love that, though, I mean, it's it's not.

848
00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:47,200
Speaker 1: It's not really it's not like creepy ghosts or you know,

849
00:49:47,520 --> 00:49:51,080
Speaker 1: anything like that. It's like, really, it's just sweet and

850
00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:55,160
Speaker 1: it's I mean, animals are so they're especially you know,

851
00:49:55,239 --> 00:49:59,439
Speaker 1: pets are there just to love. Like they're just they're

852
00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:02,080
Speaker 1: they're not there to judge or whatever. They just they're

853
00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:09,279
Speaker 1: just filled with love. And it's just like that love lingers. Yeah,

854
00:50:09,320 --> 00:50:11,600
Speaker 1: what about your experiences with your grandmother?

855
00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:16,839
Speaker 4: So I was really close to my grandma, and unfortunately

856
00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:22,080
Speaker 4: she died of cancer when I was eleven, and I

857
00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:26,400
Speaker 4: wasn't able to say goodbye to her. She died in hospice,

858
00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:32,240
Speaker 4: and a couple days after she died, I just woke

859
00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:34,759
Speaker 4: up in the middle of the night and I just

860
00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:39,480
Speaker 4: sat up and I just for some reason, I stuck

861
00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:41,520
Speaker 4: out my hand like next to the bed and just

862
00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:45,760
Speaker 4: kind of slowly moved it. And there was a patch

863
00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:50,480
Speaker 4: of cold air about the width of a person like

864
00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:52,640
Speaker 4: standing next to my bed. I just like felt my

865
00:50:52,719 --> 00:50:53,799
Speaker 4: hand move through it.

866
00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:55,320
Speaker 5: And the air.

867
00:50:55,200 --> 00:50:58,719
Speaker 4: Condition wasn't on, the heat wasn't on, the you know,

868
00:50:58,760 --> 00:51:02,440
Speaker 4: the windows were closed, there was no air moving and

869
00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:05,480
Speaker 4: I was just like, oh, my grandma, and I just

870
00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:10,520
Speaker 4: turned over and went back to sleep. And from then on,

871
00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:15,640
Speaker 4: I will just occasionally feel like you need to do

872
00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:18,239
Speaker 4: something or you need to not do something, and it

873
00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:22,080
Speaker 4: will be like it's either intuition or it was just

874
00:51:22,120 --> 00:51:24,879
Speaker 4: like Grandma watching out for me. You know. Sometimes you'll

875
00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:27,200
Speaker 4: like turn around and you'll be like, wow, I almost

876
00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:33,000
Speaker 4: took out my eye with that cabinet door that I was,

877
00:51:33,120 --> 00:51:36,719
Speaker 4: you know, I kind of clumsy growing up, and that

878
00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:40,479
Speaker 4: happened to me all the time, And suddenly I wasn't

879
00:51:40,520 --> 00:51:46,600
Speaker 4: banging my head on cabinet doors after she died. And

880
00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:49,480
Speaker 4: I love to read, so I would I would stay

881
00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:52,799
Speaker 4: up really late at night reading like you know, I

882
00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:55,160
Speaker 4: have to wake up in three hours, too bad, I'm

883
00:51:55,200 --> 00:51:59,239
Speaker 4: going to keep reading. And I would feel like someone's

884
00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:02,680
Speaker 4: hands like cold, you know, like kind of the air

885
00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:04,680
Speaker 4: around my hands where I was holding the book with

886
00:52:04,840 --> 00:52:08,239
Speaker 4: like chill, like someone was putting their hands over it

887
00:52:08,239 --> 00:52:10,520
Speaker 4: and saying, okay, you need to close the book and.

888
00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:11,000
Speaker 2: Go to bed.

889
00:52:11,520 --> 00:52:14,720
Speaker 4: And I would say, okay, Grandma, let me just finish

890
00:52:14,719 --> 00:52:17,600
Speaker 4: this chapter. The you know, the coolness would go away.

891
00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:23,319
Speaker 4: And and if I actually, you know, finished the chapter

892
00:52:23,320 --> 00:52:25,080
Speaker 4: and closed the book, that would be the end of it.

893
00:52:25,120 --> 00:52:27,680
Speaker 4: But if I didn't and I kept reading, that coolness

894
00:52:27,680 --> 00:52:30,000
Speaker 4: would come back until I actually closed the book and

895
00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:30,680
Speaker 4: went to sleep.

896
00:52:32,760 --> 00:52:37,560
Speaker 1: Oh my god. I've talked about this too, Like I

897
00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:43,239
Speaker 1: think that I have Grandma Guardian Angels. I don't know

898
00:52:43,239 --> 00:52:46,759
Speaker 1: what you want to say, but I feel that kind

899
00:52:46,800 --> 00:52:52,160
Speaker 1: of presence as well. And I've had certain situations that

900
00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:56,680
Speaker 1: I think could have been really could have been the

901
00:52:56,800 --> 00:52:59,239
Speaker 1: end of me, and then something intervenes and I'm like,

902
00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:04,120
Speaker 1: I think it was my Grandma's I don't know, yeah,

903
00:53:04,280 --> 00:53:05,239
Speaker 1: I know, I.

904
00:53:05,200 --> 00:53:08,920
Speaker 4: Don't know if it's you know, if it's a spirit

905
00:53:08,920 --> 00:53:13,279
Speaker 4: guy Guardian Angel or you know, Grandma watching out for me.

906
00:53:14,760 --> 00:53:20,239
Speaker 4: But you know, it definitely it definitely feels like, you know,

907
00:53:20,560 --> 00:53:23,239
Speaker 4: my grandma, even though she.

908
00:53:23,280 --> 00:53:25,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, that's it's just like pets. It's it's

909
00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:29,640
Speaker 1: sweet that, like, you know, we all play different roles

910
00:53:29,640 --> 00:53:34,719
Speaker 1: in our different relationships, and like I've felt that my

911
00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:39,280
Speaker 1: grandmother's spirit was still a grandma, like when she passed,

912
00:53:39,320 --> 00:53:43,200
Speaker 1: she would still intervene in ways that were grandmotherly and

913
00:53:43,640 --> 00:53:46,040
Speaker 1: it's just kind of I don't know, it's comforting.

914
00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:50,839
Speaker 4: I think, yeah, it really is. It. It gave me

915
00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:52,799
Speaker 4: a lot of comfort to think that, you know, she

916
00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:57,680
Speaker 4: was just kind of there watching over me, because yeah, I'm.

917
00:53:57,480 --> 00:54:10,920
Speaker 1: Mister hello Elisa, Ohio. How's it going, Hi?

918
00:54:11,120 --> 00:54:11,920
Speaker 5: Ros I'm good.

919
00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:15,480
Speaker 1: How are you so good? You're telling me you have

920
00:54:15,520 --> 00:54:17,440
Speaker 1: a ton of stories. Where do we start?

921
00:54:18,120 --> 00:54:18,359
Speaker 3: Well?

922
00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:22,040
Speaker 5: I think the best one to start is the one

923
00:54:22,040 --> 00:54:25,160
Speaker 5: that I sent over my email, which is when I

924
00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:28,200
Speaker 5: moved to California. I had a crazy experience in my

925
00:54:28,239 --> 00:54:34,120
Speaker 5: new apartment there, which is funny because you live Riverside, Okay,

926
00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:37,520
Speaker 5: so like kind of near La, like an hour southeast.

927
00:54:38,280 --> 00:54:40,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, but there's great antique stores there.

928
00:54:41,239 --> 00:54:43,440
Speaker 5: Oh I bet. I just didn't have a car, so

929
00:54:43,520 --> 00:54:46,120
Speaker 5: I didn't get to go around that much. But I

930
00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:50,080
Speaker 5: just went there for a job. But yeah, I moved

931
00:54:50,080 --> 00:54:53,439
Speaker 5: into this apartment there and it was like the job

932
00:54:53,560 --> 00:54:56,759
Speaker 5: was through like a program, right, So I moved into

933
00:54:56,880 --> 00:54:59,920
Speaker 5: a student dorm, so it was like furnished, but it

934
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:01,920
Speaker 5: it was like sterile, you know what I mean, Like

935
00:55:02,200 --> 00:55:05,240
Speaker 5: nobody was living there. There was nothing like left behind.

936
00:55:05,239 --> 00:55:07,959
Speaker 5: All my roommates and I were just moving in and

937
00:55:09,360 --> 00:55:13,960
Speaker 5: I just started having truly the most horrifying dreams when

938
00:55:13,960 --> 00:55:17,160
Speaker 5: I moved in there, like watching people get tortured, like

939
00:55:17,440 --> 00:55:22,799
Speaker 5: horrible horrible dreams, right, So yeah, not great. And I

940
00:55:22,880 --> 00:55:24,600
Speaker 5: was talking to my roommates about it, and they were

941
00:55:24,640 --> 00:55:27,560
Speaker 5: all pretty they were all pretty religious, and they were like,

942
00:55:27,640 --> 00:55:30,000
Speaker 5: I don't know, like something's up. And I was like,

943
00:55:30,080 --> 00:55:32,840
Speaker 5: I don't know, maybe it's just like a neurochemical imbalance

944
00:55:32,920 --> 00:55:35,879
Speaker 5: or whatever. I don't know, So I kind of ignored it.

945
00:55:36,880 --> 00:55:41,279
Speaker 5: And then it kept happening, and then one night I

946
00:55:41,360 --> 00:55:44,480
Speaker 5: woke up in the middle of the night and it

947
00:55:44,600 --> 00:55:46,920
Speaker 5: like I had like blood in my face, but like

948
00:55:47,360 --> 00:55:50,799
Speaker 5: not like a terrifying, like gushing amount, just like just

949
00:55:50,800 --> 00:55:52,680
Speaker 5: like a little bit like I'd popped a pimple or something,

950
00:55:52,719 --> 00:55:57,120
Speaker 5: you know. So I get up and I go to

951
00:55:57,120 --> 00:55:59,240
Speaker 5: the mirror to like, you know, wipe it off or whatever,

952
00:55:59,640 --> 00:56:04,440
Speaker 5: and there is literally nothing on my face, like no spit, nothing.

953
00:56:04,480 --> 00:56:06,280
Speaker 5: And I was like, Okay, that's terrifying.

954
00:56:07,239 --> 00:56:09,200
Speaker 1: So wait, wait, but why do you think that there

955
00:56:09,239 --> 00:56:11,279
Speaker 1: was blood on your face? Did you did you like

956
00:56:11,360 --> 00:56:13,279
Speaker 1: touch your face and it was on your hands or

957
00:56:13,400 --> 00:56:13,839
Speaker 1: what do you mean?

958
00:56:13,920 --> 00:56:16,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was just like that consistency, you know what

959
00:56:16,440 --> 00:56:18,680
Speaker 5: I mean, Like it's like kind of sticky and like

960
00:56:19,160 --> 00:56:21,439
Speaker 5: it was just I don't know, like it just felt

961
00:56:21,440 --> 00:56:22,880
Speaker 5: like there was blood in my face, like I had

962
00:56:22,880 --> 00:56:25,799
Speaker 5: a nosebleed or something. I don't know, I just I

963
00:56:25,880 --> 00:56:26,839
Speaker 5: just knew, I guess.

964
00:56:26,920 --> 00:56:27,400
Speaker 3: And then.

965
00:56:29,120 --> 00:56:31,440
Speaker 5: The next day I was talking to my roommates about it,

966
00:56:31,760 --> 00:56:33,520
Speaker 5: and I was like doing a deep dive because I

967
00:56:33,560 --> 00:56:37,920
Speaker 5: was like, this is weird, right, So I did some

968
00:56:37,960 --> 00:56:41,000
Speaker 5: research and I found that you know, like bad energies

969
00:56:41,040 --> 00:56:44,360
Speaker 5: and whatnot can attach themselves to objects. And I was like,

970
00:56:44,480 --> 00:56:47,320
Speaker 5: that's but there's no way, like there's stuff in this apartment,

971
00:56:47,360 --> 00:56:51,680
Speaker 5: but it's like sterile, like it is like student dorm

972
00:56:51,880 --> 00:56:55,040
Speaker 5: cut and paste furniture, right, But I just give it

973
00:56:55,080 --> 00:56:58,600
Speaker 5: a go. And I searched the apartment up and down,

974
00:56:58,680 --> 00:57:01,800
Speaker 5: and then under my bed I find this like little

975
00:57:01,840 --> 00:57:05,880
Speaker 5: painted box and it didn't have anything in it. It

976
00:57:05,920 --> 00:57:07,960
Speaker 5: was just like someone had like decorated his box and

977
00:57:08,040 --> 00:57:10,400
Speaker 5: left it under my bed. And then I threw it

978
00:57:10,440 --> 00:57:12,360
Speaker 5: out and then like nothing ever happened.

979
00:57:12,360 --> 00:57:16,680
Speaker 1: Ever again, what was this was the box for?

980
00:57:17,640 --> 00:57:19,920
Speaker 5: I don't know, maybe they like trapped something in it

981
00:57:19,960 --> 00:57:22,120
Speaker 5: and it did like me, I don't know, it was.

982
00:57:22,120 --> 00:57:29,160
Speaker 1: So weird, weird. Yeah, okay, so then it all stopped

983
00:57:29,200 --> 00:57:29,800
Speaker 1: after that.

984
00:57:30,040 --> 00:57:33,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, like like someone snapped and it went away and

985
00:57:33,200 --> 00:57:36,439
Speaker 5: I mean, like, I have dreams pretty regularly, but these

986
00:57:36,480 --> 00:57:39,640
Speaker 5: were like like dreams that were so horrible. I've never

987
00:57:39,680 --> 00:57:44,520
Speaker 5: had anything like them, like beyond nightmare. It was really strange,

988
00:57:44,560 --> 00:57:46,320
Speaker 5: and I thought maybe for a second it was like,

989
00:57:47,160 --> 00:57:49,120
Speaker 5: I don't know, like stress dreams or something. But I

990
00:57:49,200 --> 00:57:51,160
Speaker 5: was like, I have no reason to be stressed, Like

991
00:57:51,200 --> 00:57:54,080
Speaker 5: I like my roommates and moving to California. Who can

992
00:57:54,080 --> 00:57:54,800
Speaker 5: complain about that?

993
00:57:55,000 --> 00:57:55,200
Speaker 3: You know?

994
00:57:55,560 --> 00:57:58,440
Speaker 5: So it's definitely the box.

995
00:58:01,560 --> 00:58:03,840
Speaker 1: You grew up in a house that has a graveyard

996
00:58:03,880 --> 00:58:04,160
Speaker 1: in the.

997
00:58:04,160 --> 00:58:07,200
Speaker 5: Backyard, Yeah, I did so.

998
00:58:07,200 --> 00:58:10,560
Speaker 1: So did that lead to ghosts walking around or what?

999
00:58:10,880 --> 00:58:14,880
Speaker 5: Oh? Yeah, absolutely? So the house that I grew up in,

1000
00:58:15,400 --> 00:58:18,960
Speaker 5: it was like like a newer development, but it was

1001
00:58:19,040 --> 00:58:21,000
Speaker 5: like you know how in the Midwest there will be

1002
00:58:21,040 --> 00:58:23,840
Speaker 5: like newer developments, but like on farmland, so you'll just

1003
00:58:23,880 --> 00:58:26,200
Speaker 5: like walk around and it's like, oh, that's like someone's

1004
00:58:26,200 --> 00:58:29,120
Speaker 5: like family plot of a cemetery or whatever. It was

1005
00:58:29,200 --> 00:58:31,880
Speaker 5: kind of like that, right, Yeah, They're just like this

1006
00:58:31,920 --> 00:58:34,360
Speaker 5: will be a great place for you to raise your kids.

1007
00:58:34,800 --> 00:58:35,360
Speaker 1: Uh huh.

1008
00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:38,680
Speaker 5: But no, it was like a full old cemetery, but

1009
00:58:38,720 --> 00:58:42,120
Speaker 5: it was like it was like an eighteen hundred cemetery

1010
00:58:42,120 --> 00:58:44,040
Speaker 5: but there were probably like fifty graves in it, and

1011
00:58:44,080 --> 00:58:46,280
Speaker 5: it's still being used today, like they're still putting people

1012
00:58:46,800 --> 00:58:49,000
Speaker 5: there or whatever. But it was like literally my backyard,

1013
00:58:49,120 --> 00:58:50,920
Speaker 5: like I could look out of the window and like

1014
00:58:51,040 --> 00:58:56,480
Speaker 5: see it. So I guess the first thing that happened

1015
00:58:56,480 --> 00:59:00,320
Speaker 5: that was really weird there was that. Okay with me,

1016
00:59:00,320 --> 00:59:02,280
Speaker 5: because this is gonna sound like, yeah, okay at least,

1017
00:59:02,400 --> 00:59:06,920
Speaker 5: but I always had this like innate understanding that like

1018
00:59:07,000 --> 00:59:10,880
Speaker 5: if the lights were off, you get completely under the covers,

1019
00:59:10,880 --> 00:59:13,160
Speaker 5: Like I would sleep covers over my head so I

1020
00:59:13,160 --> 00:59:15,360
Speaker 5: wouldn't be able to breathe and I would lie like

1021
00:59:15,400 --> 00:59:18,720
Speaker 5: completely so and it's like, yeah, okay, kids are like

1022
00:59:18,800 --> 00:59:22,840
Speaker 5: scared of the dark or whatever, but like I never

1023
00:59:22,880 --> 00:59:25,600
Speaker 5: did that anywhere else, And it was like to the

1024
00:59:25,600 --> 00:59:29,440
Speaker 5: point where I literally like would not be able to breathe,

1025
00:59:29,440 --> 00:59:32,440
Speaker 5: but I'd be like, well, it's either I stuffocate or

1026
00:59:32,440 --> 00:59:34,360
Speaker 5: get killed by a ghost, you know, one the other.

1027
00:59:35,120 --> 00:59:39,800
Speaker 5: So I always did that, and then I always like

1028
00:59:39,840 --> 00:59:42,280
Speaker 5: would see weird things, you know, like everyone says that

1029
00:59:42,320 --> 00:59:44,080
Speaker 5: and haunted houses, like you see things like out of

1030
00:59:44,120 --> 00:59:46,120
Speaker 5: the corner of your eye before things even happen. Like

1031
00:59:46,840 --> 00:59:49,480
Speaker 5: one time, I swear on my life. I was in

1032
00:59:49,520 --> 00:59:52,480
Speaker 5: the basement and I saw a fox and I was

1033
00:59:52,520 --> 00:59:55,400
Speaker 5: just like staring at it, and I like turned the

1034
00:59:55,400 --> 00:59:57,960
Speaker 5: corner and went away. I just just weird things like that.

1035
00:59:59,000 --> 01:00:02,680
Speaker 5: And then maybe when I was like I want to say,

1036
01:00:02,760 --> 01:00:07,200
Speaker 5: like seven or eight, maybe I was. I had woken up.

1037
01:00:07,240 --> 01:00:10,080
Speaker 5: It was like a Saturday morning or something, and I

1038
01:00:10,120 --> 01:00:13,480
Speaker 5: had two blankets over my head, and you know how

1039
01:00:13,600 --> 01:00:16,800
Speaker 5: like you will just like see faces and things even

1040
01:00:16,840 --> 01:00:19,280
Speaker 5: though they're not there, like in like a car grill

1041
01:00:19,400 --> 01:00:24,040
Speaker 5: or something. You know, there was like the first blanket

1042
01:00:24,200 --> 01:00:26,720
Speaker 5: I remember distinctly like seeing like the little like ruffles

1043
01:00:26,760 --> 01:00:28,960
Speaker 5: or whatever. I saw like a little face, and I

1044
01:00:29,240 --> 01:00:32,320
Speaker 5: remember distinctly thinking like oh hah, that's funny. You know,

1045
01:00:32,480 --> 01:00:35,200
Speaker 5: my brain did that. And then I pulled that blanket

1046
01:00:35,280 --> 01:00:39,760
Speaker 5: down and then there's like a shear cover I guess,

1047
01:00:39,800 --> 01:00:42,600
Speaker 5: like right on top of it so I could see

1048
01:00:42,640 --> 01:00:44,840
Speaker 5: through it, but it was still like a blanket over

1049
01:00:44,880 --> 01:00:48,360
Speaker 5: my face. And I don't know if you or anyone

1050
01:00:48,400 --> 01:00:50,480
Speaker 5: listening to the podcast knows the band ween.

1051
01:00:51,640 --> 01:00:53,360
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, okay, so you.

1052
01:00:53,320 --> 01:00:55,680
Speaker 5: Know they're a little like simple like the face. I

1053
01:00:55,680 --> 01:00:57,919
Speaker 5: don't know what it's called, but it's like the guy

1054
01:00:57,960 --> 01:00:59,040
Speaker 5: with the really spiky hair.

1055
01:01:01,000 --> 01:01:02,800
Speaker 1: I personally do not know what that is, but I

1056
01:01:02,840 --> 01:01:04,320
Speaker 1: know that I know of that band.

1057
01:01:04,720 --> 01:01:10,960
Speaker 5: Well, okay, it's has some like silly name, like I

1058
01:01:10,960 --> 01:01:14,320
Speaker 5: don't know, but there was something standing over me that

1059
01:01:14,400 --> 01:01:18,880
Speaker 5: looked exactly like that. Like basically for people who don't

1060
01:01:18,920 --> 01:01:22,760
Speaker 5: have a visual it was like like a skeleton kind

1061
01:01:22,760 --> 01:01:26,520
Speaker 5: of head, like with big eye holes and you could

1062
01:01:26,520 --> 01:01:29,120
Speaker 5: see through them, and then like it looked like it

1063
01:01:29,200 --> 01:01:32,040
Speaker 5: had crazy spiky hair, like it had been like electrocuted

1064
01:01:32,160 --> 01:01:32,600
Speaker 5: or something.

1065
01:01:34,760 --> 01:01:36,480
Speaker 1: WHOA, what do you think that was?

1066
01:01:37,440 --> 01:01:42,360
Speaker 5: I maybe like an old electric worker who was buried

1067
01:01:42,360 --> 01:01:43,080
Speaker 5: behind my house.

1068
01:01:43,160 --> 01:01:45,440
Speaker 1: I don't know electric.

1069
01:01:46,880 --> 01:01:51,160
Speaker 5: He's like, wow, the wiry in this house is crazy.

1070
01:01:51,200 --> 01:01:54,040
Speaker 5: But yeah, it was so distinct and like there's no

1071
01:01:54,080 --> 01:01:55,800
Speaker 5: way that could have been a shadow, right because it

1072
01:01:55,880 --> 01:02:00,800
Speaker 5: was like perfect circles for the eyes, hair stand straight up.

1073
01:02:01,480 --> 01:02:03,480
Speaker 5: And I just like stared at it for thirty minutes.

1074
01:02:03,560 --> 01:02:05,720
Speaker 5: I was like, all right, what do I do in

1075
01:02:05,760 --> 01:02:09,520
Speaker 5: this situation? And I just pulled down my covers and

1076
01:02:09,600 --> 01:02:11,680
Speaker 5: right away and nothing there.

1077
01:02:14,320 --> 01:02:18,760
Speaker 1: WHOA, So do you how do you feel about cemeteries

1078
01:02:18,840 --> 01:02:22,840
Speaker 1: being haunted? Because that's always like a topic of conversation

1079
01:02:22,920 --> 01:02:25,760
Speaker 1: that I have with people. People you know, assume that

1080
01:02:25,800 --> 01:02:28,760
Speaker 1: they would be haunted. But a lot of times I'm like, well,

1081
01:02:28,800 --> 01:02:31,960
Speaker 1: why would a ghost be there? Right, so you think

1082
01:02:32,040 --> 01:02:34,680
Speaker 1: that they are, well, I mean, of course they could be.

1083
01:02:35,640 --> 01:02:37,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I feel like if it is the

1084
01:02:37,880 --> 01:02:40,440
Speaker 5: last place like you're put on this earth, like that's

1085
01:02:40,520 --> 01:02:42,680
Speaker 5: kind of your home base. So maybe that's like where

1086
01:02:42,720 --> 01:02:46,320
Speaker 5: they like come from. Maybe. But I agree with you,

1087
01:02:46,480 --> 01:02:48,240
Speaker 5: like every time you said that on this podcast, like

1088
01:02:48,640 --> 01:02:50,600
Speaker 5: why would you want to stay around the cemetery, I'd

1089
01:02:50,600 --> 01:02:52,880
Speaker 5: be like in the JACUZI at like a Hilton.

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Speaker 1: I'd well, by the time you get to the cemetery,

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Speaker 1: you're already dead. You've probably been dead for a couple

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Speaker 1: of days.

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Speaker 5: True. True, I don't even think about that. But maybe

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Speaker 5: you're like not coming to terms with the fact that

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Speaker 5: like you don't really need your body anymore. So maybe

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Speaker 5: it like takes a couple of days or something. I

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Speaker 5: don't know.

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Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, it's like you don't you don't want to

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Speaker 1: move out quite yet, right, it's just like taking time.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, or like.

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Speaker 5: Maybe it's you know, it's like all for the bit,

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Speaker 5: like you're a ghost, why not stay in a cemetery

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Speaker 5: like it's already spooky. You've already got half the work

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Speaker 5: done for you.

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Speaker 1: Right well, okay, oh my god, you want to listen

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Speaker 1: to an EVP, I would love to. Okay, it's time

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Speaker 1: for EVP or ev plice. Okay, this one is actually

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Speaker 1: there's a cemetery related thing and that's why I was

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Speaker 1: thinking this would be perfect. Okay, okay. This is posted

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Speaker 1: on YouTube by somebody named Becky Vickers, and it is

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Speaker 1: at Channing Park, which is an Elgin, Illinois not too

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Speaker 1: far from you now west. Okay, so Channing Elementary School.

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Speaker 1: This is what Becky Vickers wrote on YouTube. Channing Elementary

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Speaker 1: School has the unfortunate distinction of having been built over

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Speaker 1: what remained of Elgin's first cemetery. During the nineteen forties,

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Speaker 1: most of the graves were moved to accommodate a new

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Speaker 1: sports field, but then in the nineteen sixties, when construction

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Speaker 1: crews broke around on the broke broke ground on the

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Speaker 1: new elementary school, their equipment began to uncover human remains.

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Speaker 1: Since then, the faculty and staff at Channing Elementary have

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Speaker 1: reported an elevator that seems to move on its own

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Speaker 1: footsteps on the roof, dark figures, and even scratching on

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Speaker 1: the walls. Today, a stone monument to the dead buried

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Speaker 1: at the original cemetery sits at a nearby park. Okay,

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Speaker 1: a little bit terrifying, really, but they believe I've captured

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Speaker 1: a ghost. What do you hear this ghost saying? I

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Speaker 1: need to turn it up. It is like a real

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Speaker 1: tiny little voice.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, sounds like a kid or something. It sounds like

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Speaker 5: she's saying, where are you going?

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Speaker 2: Where are you going?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: I hear that.

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Speaker 1: Let me give you some options. Is it a I'm

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Speaker 1: a little ghost. B I wouldn't do that. Oh that's creepy. Yeah, see,

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Speaker 1: I want to go or d Bowie's the best? Maybe

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Speaker 1: it was a David Bowie fan.

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Speaker 5: I wanted to be that.

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Speaker 1: But I'm going to go amazing, I'm.

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Speaker 5: Going to go with what was the third one? Like

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Speaker 5: I wouldn't go or something?

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Speaker 1: I want to go?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm going to go with that one because I

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Speaker 5: think that's closest to what I heard.

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Speaker 1: Okay, let me play it again. That is what this

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Speaker 1: ghost says. According to Becky Vickers.

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Speaker 5: I want to go, Oh my gosh, two people hear it.

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Speaker 1: It's gotta be true, No, I really did think. Okay,

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Speaker 1: here's like a little inside secret number number D, which

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Speaker 1: I know what I just said. Number D is always

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Speaker 1: what I think it is, absolutely says or it's what

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Speaker 1: I hear, which is uh. I when I originally heard it,

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Speaker 1: I thought it said Bowie's the best, but that would

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Speaker 1: make no sense. Thank you so much to a Tessa, Kathy,

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Speaker 1: Aaron Annalise. If you want to hear a little bit more,

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Speaker 1: Patreon dot com slash rosdres Falles. There is a clip

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Speaker 1: of a Tessa talking about being able to see people's thoughts,

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01:06:59,640 --> 01:07:04,360
Speaker 1: which is real fascinating. And also there's a clip from

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Speaker 1: a Lease talking about having a haunted closet. Oooooo, I

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Speaker 1: love you guys. Please subscribe to the show. Rate it

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01:07:15,960 --> 01:07:18,520
Speaker 1: five stars if you like it. If you don't leave

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Speaker 1: it alone, stop listening. I don't know what to tell you.

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01:07:22,200 --> 01:07:24,160
Speaker 1: You can leave a five star review with a ghost

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Speaker 1: story in it ooh, five stars on Spotify everywhere you

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01:07:27,720 --> 01:07:31,040
Speaker 1: listen to podcasts. I love that. Tell your friends about

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Speaker 1: the show. If you want to hear things that are

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Speaker 1: not spooky or see things that are not spooky from me,

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Speaker 1: just go to my Instagram, which is at roz Hernandez,

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Speaker 1: My TikTok and Twitter are at It's raz Hernandez. I

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Speaker 1: love you all, both living and dead. But if I

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Speaker 1: didn't ask you to haunt me, don't haunt me. Came back.

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