1 00:00:09,360 --> 00:00:13,680 Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George 2 00:00:13,720 --> 00:00:19,040 Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Gatty, Armstrong and Jetty. 3 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:30,000 Speaker 2: And Armstrong Gutty Strong not live from Studio c Armstrong 4 00:00:30,080 --> 00:00:32,479 Speaker 2: and Getty. We're off for taking a break. 5 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:36,599 Speaker 3: Come on enjoy this carefully curated Armstrong and Getty replay. 6 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:38,479 Speaker 3: And as long as we're off, perhaps you'd like to 7 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:41,360 Speaker 3: catch up on podcasts, subscribe to Armstrong and Getty on 8 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 3: demand or one more thing. 9 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:45,760 Speaker 4: We think you'll enjoy it, sir, So if you. 10 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:48,080 Speaker 2: Have a new feature you've been mentioning Katie, where do 11 00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:49,400 Speaker 2: people find Katie's corner? 12 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:52,080 Speaker 5: Go to Armstrong Getty dot com. It's across the top. 13 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:54,920 Speaker 2: Okay, And you decided to spell it with a K. 14 00:00:55,440 --> 00:00:59,320 Speaker 5: I did because you both had conniption fits because I 15 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:00,720 Speaker 5: spelled it like a regular person. 16 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:03,400 Speaker 2: Feel that may make a big deal. And how do 17 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:05,320 Speaker 2: you spell your name? Katie is with a wire and 18 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:07,160 Speaker 2: I E an I E. Okay. Do you put a 19 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:10,160 Speaker 2: heart above the eye? No? Yeah, I did when I 20 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 2: was like twelve. 21 00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 3: I'm cute Katie's corner as woman you're talking to's corner 22 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:18,200 Speaker 3: with a heart over the eye and a K for 23 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:18,720 Speaker 3: a corner. 24 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:21,200 Speaker 2: It sounds pretty good to me. On et Sea to 25 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:22,920 Speaker 2: sell your Doiley's you make it home. 26 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:26,559 Speaker 5: I will say there is a restaurant in San Ramon 27 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:29,080 Speaker 5: in the Bay Area in California that's called Katie's Corner, 28 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:31,119 Speaker 5: and they have the best eggs Benedict. 29 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:32,800 Speaker 2: I'll write that down. 30 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:36,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, and it's spelled Katie's with a Y, corner with 31 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 5: a K. 32 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:40,399 Speaker 2: I take breakfast places more seriously than any other kind 33 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 2: of restaurant. Love a good breakfast place. 34 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:45,919 Speaker 5: Oh it's hard, it's hard to mess up breakfast, I feel. 35 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:50,040 Speaker 2: But man, the good, the great from the good. Yeah. 36 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like they say about pizza and sex. I 37 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 3: mean it's gonna be fine from the male. 38 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 4: Point of view. 39 00:01:56,960 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 2: If you had sex and you burnt the roof of 40 00:01:58,480 --> 00:01:59,720 Speaker 2: your mouth, that's no good. 41 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 4: What are you. 42 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:03,000 Speaker 2: Doing but breakfast? 43 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:07,560 Speaker 3: Yes, to achieve a solid B is practically effort true. 44 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:10,400 Speaker 3: But to get up to the AA plus ranking, then 45 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:12,480 Speaker 3: you're talking some really good food. 46 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:13,960 Speaker 4: I mean crazy good. 47 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:19,480 Speaker 3: I mean you get you spend twenty dollars on your breakfast, 48 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:23,639 Speaker 3: you have had deliciousness on par with a seventy dollars 49 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 3: meal for dinner. 50 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 2: Tell me, I'm wrong. No, that's absolutely right, that's absolutely true. 51 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:32,120 Speaker 2: You know I want to go to Katie's. Yeah, to 52 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:34,639 Speaker 2: get today, to get the best steak, you're gonna have 53 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:36,720 Speaker 2: to spend one hundred bucks. To get the best breakfast, 54 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:38,080 Speaker 2: you can spend twenty bucks. So you're right. 55 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:42,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, breakfast all day. That's got to be 56 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:44,640 Speaker 3: my new restaurant. But I'll spell it with a like 57 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:48,360 Speaker 3: Oh no, I gotta have a clever spelling, spell. 58 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 5: It like an adult. 59 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 3: Shoe. 60 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 6: I remember you're going to have a restaurant called Walk 61 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:54,520 Speaker 6: this Way and you were in spell at w Ok. 62 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:57,320 Speaker 4: That's right. Yeah. One of my many ideas. 63 00:02:57,080 --> 00:02:59,519 Speaker 2: Ye Chinese rest breakfast over Chinese. Yeah. 64 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 4: Maybe I'll just have a whole food court. 65 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:05,080 Speaker 3: I'll like offer a suite of restaurants, like I'll buy 66 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 3: out a strip mall and I'll have Walk this Way 67 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:10,640 Speaker 3: and then I'll have breakfast all day. 68 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:12,959 Speaker 4: And then I don't know, I'll come up with some more. 69 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 3: Ideas, probably not as great as those two, it'll be good. 70 00:03:20,919 --> 00:03:21,839 Speaker 4: Ah. 71 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 2: Oh. 72 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:24,880 Speaker 3: Speaking of which, one final side before we get into 73 00:03:24,919 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 3: the horrifying Ray Pee story from Nature and it's. 74 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:33,919 Speaker 2: Worse than you think. Okay, lady, lady. 75 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 3: So, my old friend Drew, who worked in Mexico for 76 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 3: several years, a. 77 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 5: Sombrero. 78 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:49,280 Speaker 2: It's not catching. No, have you ever been to Mexico. 79 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 4: Not everybody wears the sombrero. 80 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 2: You raises culture, not a costume. 81 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 3: Anyway, but he became aware of and this is very 82 00:03:57,080 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 3: popular in rural parts of Mexisco, especially or people of 83 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:04,640 Speaker 3: of or not rich. Discatta it is the disc from 84 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 3: a plow that they just change a little bit with 85 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:12,280 Speaker 3: welding and sometime it's referred to as the cowboy walk 86 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 3: in the United States, and it's essentially an outdoor you 87 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:19,720 Speaker 3: put it over a fire walk to cook up your 88 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:23,720 Speaker 3: meat and taters and vegetables or whatever. And Drew would 89 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:25,279 Speaker 3: make this for a big party once a yar or so, 90 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:28,680 Speaker 3: and it's just absolutely fantastic, and partly because we're going 91 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 3: to get our kitchen room modeled if the permitting ever 92 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:37,920 Speaker 3: comes through. I bought one, but I need like really 93 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 3: good discatta recipes, including if people were like, dude, just 94 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 3: go to a Chinese cookbook and that's what you do, 95 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:45,880 Speaker 3: or put anything in there. 96 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 4: You can't screw it up. I'm just curious. I want 97 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 4: to make the most out. 98 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:52,680 Speaker 3: Of it, but it's the food is delicious, stew is 99 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 3: in its own juice. 100 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 2: The fact that it was on a disc was a 101 00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:58,520 Speaker 2: farm implement. Does that help the food or is that just. 102 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:03,560 Speaker 3: Is that I think in the same way, like like 103 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:07,240 Speaker 3: a cast iron frying pan cooks food a little differently, 104 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:09,799 Speaker 3: and you don't like wash it with soap, you'd wipe 105 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:11,920 Speaker 3: it out and it cures with the oils and stuff 106 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 3: like that. 107 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 4: It's one of those things. Why are you looking at 108 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:15,840 Speaker 4: me like that? 109 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:18,080 Speaker 5: Because you're like, oh, man, I just need some recipes. 110 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:20,520 Speaker 5: I wish there was something like a like. 111 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:22,720 Speaker 2: A box electronic and you could. 112 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:28,520 Speaker 5: Type in de scotta recipes and then there would be lists. 113 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 4: You know what, girl, I wish there was like this thing. 114 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:36,799 Speaker 4: It's like a box. 115 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:41,839 Speaker 3: I don't know, some way to put letters and words 116 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:43,400 Speaker 3: into the box and then. 117 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:45,560 Speaker 2: Ask it I want stuff. 118 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:47,840 Speaker 3: People have actually chided, I'm not gonna go out into 119 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:48,720 Speaker 3: the freaking internet. 120 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:49,640 Speaker 4: I've already done that. 121 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:52,359 Speaker 2: It's like, I don't know anyway, but you're not wrong. 122 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:53,440 Speaker 2: So here's the deal. 123 00:05:56,000 --> 00:06:01,120 Speaker 3: A locally famous sea otter in Canada, and you ask 124 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 3: how does an otter become famous? 125 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:06,520 Speaker 2: Well, do you know honors? Have you seen honors. They're 126 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:07,880 Speaker 2: cute as can be. Mm hmm. 127 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:10,599 Speaker 3: You ever go to the Monterey Bay Aquarium or the 128 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:15,120 Speaker 3: aquarium most convenient to you where you live. They're unbelievably 129 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:18,800 Speaker 3: charming and charismatic. And Ali the Otter, oh, he even 130 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:23,279 Speaker 3: has a cute name, has his own Facebook fan page, 131 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:25,960 Speaker 3: Chuck full of adorable photos. 132 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:31,240 Speaker 2: But here's the deal. So, like that squirrel, Yeah, like 133 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:32,680 Speaker 2: Peanut the squirrel. 134 00:06:32,760 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 3: Oh that the State of New York killed for being 135 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:35,880 Speaker 3: a conservative squirrel? 136 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:36,480 Speaker 2: Right right? 137 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:39,159 Speaker 3: He saved his nuts for winter. He didn't like go 138 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:41,560 Speaker 3: to the government and say, Oh, it's winner, I'm hungry. 139 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:42,799 Speaker 4: You gotta give me nuts. 140 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:45,880 Speaker 2: It's not my fault. Oh he's gaved them like a squirrel. 141 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 2: Should they killed him for it? 142 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 4: Anyway? 143 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:54,359 Speaker 3: So Ali is a sea otter, and like sea otters, 144 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:59,920 Speaker 3: sometimes he hangs out in rivers. But he's the only 145 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:03,839 Speaker 3: only see otter in the immediate area. And evidently, unlike 146 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:06,720 Speaker 3: my people, the Neanderthals that would get with Homo sapiens 147 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:11,240 Speaker 3: and you know, make sweet caveman love, sea otters don't 148 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 3: get with with uh usually with river otters, huh okay, 149 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 3: unless they murder them first and then have sex with 150 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:27,600 Speaker 3: their corpses. Whoa okay, says wildlife educator Molly Cameron. He's 151 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:29,880 Speaker 3: the only sea otter in the immediate area. So the 152 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:32,160 Speaker 3: assumption is that he does this. He kills the river 153 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 3: otters then sort of had his has his way with 154 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:38,120 Speaker 3: them for multiple days to release the sexual tension of 155 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:42,400 Speaker 3: being the only sea otter around. So ish sea otter 156 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 3: snuff films a regular thing? Or is it just this 157 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:49,040 Speaker 3: one aberant sea otter that's not well? The nature expert says, 158 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:51,040 Speaker 3: it's known to happen. I mean, they don't put a 159 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:51,880 Speaker 3: number on it. 160 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:53,960 Speaker 2: But Ali the otter. 161 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:57,760 Speaker 3: Oh look at him, is suspected of murdering at least 162 00:07:57,800 --> 00:08:02,680 Speaker 3: twenty river otters over the last decade and having sex. 163 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 4: With their corpses. 164 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:12,320 Speaker 2: Barbaric, it is, sir. So for days? Do they still 165 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 2: have the website for the necrophiliac lord? 166 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:23,480 Speaker 3: He will carry his victims around, they say, according to 167 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:27,120 Speaker 3: this nature educator, like a Teddy Bear for days. 168 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:31,560 Speaker 2: So it's like a Jeffrey Dahmer sea otter. It's very 169 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:32,439 Speaker 2: much like that. 170 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:40,679 Speaker 3: Yeah, wow, says CBC News. That's uh, that's the network 171 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:44,559 Speaker 3: up there in Canada. They have TVs now by the way. Uh, 172 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:47,680 Speaker 3: and they will have all the modern conveniences when they 173 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 3: become our fifty first state. But CBC News talking to 174 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:54,720 Speaker 3: another ottero researcher, male seatters without access to females become 175 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:59,840 Speaker 3: sexually frustrating and frustrated, and the results often aren't pretty. Yeah, 176 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:03,360 Speaker 3: he's what sometimes is referred to as a satellite male. 177 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 3: He's sitting there just hoping he's made a territory that's 178 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 3: going to have females in it, and it doesn't, so 179 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 3: instead he murders the innocent river oppers and then does 180 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:13,600 Speaker 3: what I. 181 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:16,479 Speaker 2: Said in cell sea otter exactly. 182 00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 5: So I'm looking at an article on vox and apparently 183 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:29,240 Speaker 5: they're referring here to otters as the necrophiliac serial killing 184 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:30,920 Speaker 5: fur monsters of the sea. 185 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:34,719 Speaker 3: Okay, some that's a good phrase right there. 186 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:36,400 Speaker 2: I appreciate that they. 187 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:41,120 Speaker 5: Rape baby seals and hold others pups hostage for food. 188 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:44,720 Speaker 3: I was just gonna mention that twenty ten scientific paper 189 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:48,400 Speaker 3: documented cases of forced copulation between male sea otters in 190 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:50,040 Speaker 3: California and young arbor seals. 191 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:54,719 Speaker 2: This, this is wrong. They can't the baby rapers. They 192 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:57,320 Speaker 2: can't be that cute and act like this. That's an 193 00:09:57,320 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 2: interesting stance. Well, like somebody who fills carneather king that 194 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:10,679 Speaker 2: is that is interesting. So I am a third of 195 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:13,640 Speaker 2: the way through the book Sapiens. I keep jumping back 196 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:16,720 Speaker 2: and forth in it, and he explains in that book 197 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:21,520 Speaker 2: what's unique about humans and they're evil from the animal world, 198 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:27,319 Speaker 2: taking into the account that sometimes monkey's murder and dolphins rape, 199 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:29,120 Speaker 2: and then you get the sea otter thing. It's something 200 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:33,680 Speaker 2: to do with animals generally do it to gain something, 201 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:37,840 Speaker 2: as opposed to the way people sometimes just do it 202 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:42,680 Speaker 2: for to be cruel. Usually in the animal world it's 203 00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:47,079 Speaker 2: like to take over a you know, a chunk of 204 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:50,120 Speaker 2: the jungle, or drive them out of it or whatever, 205 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:52,959 Speaker 2: or to get your odd rocks off in this case. 206 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:58,720 Speaker 3: Now there are cases of dolphins doing what really looks 207 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:01,480 Speaker 3: like toying with their victims before they end them. But 208 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:05,320 Speaker 3: in general, though, I'm sure he's right. 209 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:07,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. I don't remember. I'll have to 210 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:12,000 Speaker 2: find that again, because I thought it was really interesting you, So, 211 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:14,600 Speaker 2: does anybody have a lighter or more humorous note? 212 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:16,800 Speaker 3: Tend this with If I'd been thinking ahead, I would 213 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:18,160 Speaker 3: have come prepared with them. 214 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:21,079 Speaker 5: I apologize if after hearing that you want to hand 215 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:24,120 Speaker 5: feed an otter, you can go to SeaQuest in fulsome 216 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:26,200 Speaker 5: because I've done that there. Or you can hand feed them. 217 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:28,240 Speaker 5: They stick their little arms through a hole in the 218 00:11:28,280 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 5: glass and they grab the shrimp out of your hand. 219 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:32,520 Speaker 2: And that is that's got to be cute as heck, 220 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:35,600 Speaker 2: it's so cute. But now that I know they do this, 221 00:11:36,080 --> 00:11:39,360 Speaker 2: barbaric our otters are cute. They have the advance and 222 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:42,280 Speaker 2: some animals just have the advantage of being cute. Wow. 223 00:11:42,360 --> 00:11:46,240 Speaker 3: So but I mean they murder and then have sex 224 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:48,400 Speaker 3: with the corpse, but they're cute. 225 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 2: Oh boy. 226 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:54,080 Speaker 6: Don't forget when animals attack, which was on Fox at. 227 00:11:54,600 --> 00:11:57,199 Speaker 2: The most horrifying comedy attack ever caught. 228 00:11:57,040 --> 00:12:00,559 Speaker 6: On tap if you remember that, that's true story, Katie, 229 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:03,559 Speaker 6: and also on Family Guide when they advertise the Fox 230 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:08,360 Speaker 6: show Fast Animals, Slow Children another comedy classic. 231 00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:15,120 Speaker 1: Yes, Jack Armstrong and Joe, The Armstrong and Getty Show, 232 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:23,720 Speaker 1: Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty, The Armstrong and Getty Show. 233 00:12:25,640 --> 00:12:28,120 Speaker 2: I guarantee I'm not the only person who's had this happen. 234 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:34,240 Speaker 2: They recommend that if you're hiring well practically anybody really, 235 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:37,600 Speaker 2: but I'm hiring sitters in a college town tends to 236 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:42,200 Speaker 2: be college girls. Everybody recommends check their social media to 237 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:44,560 Speaker 2: try to get an idea, you know, whether or not 238 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:46,760 Speaker 2: you you know, you check their references, you check their 239 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 2: social media, that sort of stuff. Yeah, this has happened 240 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 2: multiple times where I'm hiring the college girl, I meet her, 241 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:54,720 Speaker 2: she comes to my house dressed in normal clothes and 242 00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:57,120 Speaker 2: everything like that, like a normal person. And they and 243 00:12:57,240 --> 00:13:02,079 Speaker 2: in this case, they've turned out to be incredibly re sponsible. Great, 244 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:04,640 Speaker 2: everything you'd want sitters. But I go to the social 245 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:09,280 Speaker 2: media and I see them in ways that I don't 246 00:13:09,400 --> 00:13:12,120 Speaker 2: need to know that is there. There should be I 247 00:13:12,160 --> 00:13:13,920 Speaker 2: don't know how you would do this. There should be 248 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:15,800 Speaker 2: some sort of social media. This is for the people 249 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:18,080 Speaker 2: who want to hire me social media for the people 250 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:20,000 Speaker 2: that want to date me. This is my social media. 251 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:23,160 Speaker 2: There should be two different versions. I don't like to 252 00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:26,480 Speaker 2: see you in a thong bikini with your back toward 253 00:13:26,559 --> 00:13:29,280 Speaker 2: me bent over in the pool, and then I have 254 00:13:29,360 --> 00:13:34,400 Speaker 2: to agree with you. Do you have those links handy, No, Joe, stupid, 255 00:13:34,559 --> 00:13:37,839 Speaker 2: don't do that. I'm not criticizing it. That's fine. You're 256 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:40,480 Speaker 2: a twenty one year old girl. That's what you're supposed 257 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:46,120 Speaker 2: to do with your life and whatever. I guess now. 258 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:49,880 Speaker 3: Showing your naked ass is what you're supposed to be doing. 259 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:50,560 Speaker 2: The thong. 260 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:52,840 Speaker 5: I have been a twenty one year old girl and 261 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:53,720 Speaker 5: did not do that. 262 00:13:53,880 --> 00:13:56,240 Speaker 3: Well, some do, some don't, but again I'm not judging 263 00:13:56,280 --> 00:14:00,280 Speaker 3: that at all. Incredibly responsible and professionally dressed, am I house. 264 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:02,600 Speaker 2: I only know this because I went to the social media, 265 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:04,760 Speaker 2: but that's what they recommend, and there was nothing on 266 00:14:04,800 --> 00:14:06,400 Speaker 2: there that was like a red flag in terms of 267 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:08,520 Speaker 2: wanting to hire them or whatever, and all the reference 268 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:10,960 Speaker 2: was good and they've been good, so I have no complaints. OK, 269 00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:13,559 Speaker 2: It's just I feel weird that I've seen your ass. 270 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:15,480 Speaker 2: Just words me. 271 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:18,439 Speaker 3: Out that's on you that says You've said that sounds 272 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:20,720 Speaker 3: like you prom I think. 273 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:22,400 Speaker 5: This would make it more comfortable. Just casually bring it 274 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:24,440 Speaker 5: up in conversations. So what about that picture? 275 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:24,880 Speaker 1: Yeah? 276 00:14:25,280 --> 00:14:27,280 Speaker 2: Confront them with pictures. Yeah, I'd be like, so what 277 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:30,520 Speaker 2: is this? Where were you? And why this is it? Hey? 278 00:14:30,520 --> 00:14:32,160 Speaker 4: That looks like a really cool beach. 279 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:35,000 Speaker 2: Where is that that? Yeah, that's the way I do it. 280 00:14:35,680 --> 00:14:38,080 Speaker 2: That's the way I do it. That lamp that lamp 281 00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:39,600 Speaker 2: over there? Do you have any idea where I would 282 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:41,000 Speaker 2: get that because that's a cool lamp. 283 00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:42,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, that would fit in beautifully. 284 00:14:42,920 --> 00:14:45,240 Speaker 5: Here you can see like an inch of the beach. 285 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 2: It's just all ask where was that? This sand looks 286 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:54,560 Speaker 2: very nice and solid. Yeah, you're right. Not everybody goes 287 00:14:54,640 --> 00:14:57,720 Speaker 2: that far, but it's fairly common though. I mean I've 288 00:14:57,720 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 2: had a quite a few over the last five years. 289 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:05,440 Speaker 2: It's pretty damn common. Certainly a bikini shot that's almost guaranteed, 290 00:15:05,720 --> 00:15:08,240 Speaker 2: almost guaranteed, you're gonna see them in a bikini. And well, 291 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:09,160 Speaker 2: I find that weird. 292 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:11,560 Speaker 3: My dad never saw any of we had like two 293 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:13,880 Speaker 3: babysitters my whole life, but I guarantee you my dad 294 00:15:13,880 --> 00:15:16,880 Speaker 3: never saw pictures of them in a bikini. Yeah, you know, 295 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:21,640 Speaker 3: I have been on beaches, both coasts, various lakes, Tahoe, 296 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:22,200 Speaker 3: et cetera. 297 00:15:22,560 --> 00:15:24,040 Speaker 2: And yeah, that's sort of. 298 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:28,720 Speaker 3: Where the tiny bikini that's butt floss whatever is is 299 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:29,320 Speaker 3: fairly common. 300 00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:31,280 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I wouldn't make a big deal of that. 301 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:33,400 Speaker 3: I didn't, and I'm not. I just think it's weird 302 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:35,320 Speaker 3: that I've seen this. I wish there was a way 303 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:37,520 Speaker 3: I could not I. 304 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:41,560 Speaker 5: Think wearing the bikini versus taking a photo of yourself 305 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:43,200 Speaker 5: in it and putting it on the internet is two 306 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:44,359 Speaker 5: very different. 307 00:15:47,160 --> 00:15:47,480 Speaker 4: Katie. 308 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:50,680 Speaker 2: Let me let me step in here, please. 309 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:54,280 Speaker 3: We have a society that overvalues the woman's physical form, 310 00:15:55,040 --> 00:15:57,160 Speaker 3: and so young women get the idea that that's an 311 00:15:57,200 --> 00:16:00,800 Speaker 3: important measure of their womanhood. And if they happen to 312 00:16:00,880 --> 00:16:04,120 Speaker 3: be like what's the term crazy hot and in the 313 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 3: best shape they'll ever be in in their lives, they 314 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:09,320 Speaker 3: might want to, you know, display. 315 00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:12,040 Speaker 2: That little you're blaming in the patriarchy, I am, I 316 00:16:12,080 --> 00:16:12,920 Speaker 2: am quite. 317 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:17,480 Speaker 5: Quite so, yes, yeah, yeah, I mean i'd like you'll. 318 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:19,400 Speaker 2: See it overthrown guilty as charged. 319 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:23,280 Speaker 5: There may be a bikini or two photos out there 320 00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:26,720 Speaker 5: of you, uh huh, yeah, but I was twenty one 321 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:28,640 Speaker 5: and I'm never gonna look like that again. 322 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 2: So exactly. Yeah. Well, like I said, I'm not condemning it. 323 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:35,840 Speaker 2: It just seems like, well, it's an interaction that didn't 324 00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:39,880 Speaker 2: used to exist, but between employer employee when it comes 325 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:41,560 Speaker 2: to hiring, consider no doubt. 326 00:16:41,760 --> 00:16:45,520 Speaker 5: I have another question. Is it a photo with intention 327 00:16:45,640 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 5: to be provocative or is this just like she was 328 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:50,000 Speaker 5: on the beach with her friends. 329 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:52,000 Speaker 2: Hey, we're I'd say it's more of the latter than 330 00:16:52,040 --> 00:16:55,480 Speaker 2: the former. He can't help but be provocative. You're hot 331 00:16:55,520 --> 00:16:58,560 Speaker 2: in a thong. Yeah, I mean, it's just no matter 332 00:16:58,640 --> 00:17:01,400 Speaker 2: what you're doing, provoke diseasy. You could be throwing out 333 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:05,320 Speaker 2: your taxes. It's still kind of provocative. Actually, that's double 334 00:17:05,359 --> 00:17:07,919 Speaker 2: hot to me. Wait a minute, you look like that 335 00:17:08,040 --> 00:17:10,880 Speaker 2: and you're good at doing taxes. Here's a ring. 336 00:17:11,359 --> 00:17:12,040 Speaker 4: Just think about it. 337 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:15,760 Speaker 2: Quick question for you. What if you happen to miss 338 00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:17,760 Speaker 2: this unbelievable radio program. 339 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:21,240 Speaker 3: The answer is easy, friends, Just download our podcast, Armstrong 340 00:17:21,280 --> 00:17:23,119 Speaker 3: and Getty on demand. 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In that a lot, a lot, 351 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:16,480 Speaker 2: a lot of Americans aren't in the stock market, and 352 00:18:16,960 --> 00:18:19,960 Speaker 2: it's it's I'd like to know what percentage of the 353 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:23,480 Speaker 2: audience that watches mainstream evening news is in the stock market. 354 00:18:23,840 --> 00:18:26,520 Speaker 4: Other are you including four one ks in that? 355 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:30,800 Speaker 2: Maybe maybe not. I don't know investment, but certainly the 356 00:18:30,880 --> 00:18:33,320 Speaker 2: average person watching the evening news is not into the 357 00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:36,080 Speaker 2: daily ups and downs of the stock market. True, they're 358 00:18:36,080 --> 00:18:43,320 Speaker 2: in the the long you know, the long game, and 359 00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:48,000 Speaker 2: and and very little context ever around any of this 360 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:51,159 Speaker 2: stuff anytime. And I'm not just like now, just always 361 00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:57,200 Speaker 2: there's almost no context. Biggest point, drop whatever, Sometimes they 362 00:18:57,320 --> 00:19:01,280 Speaker 2: use points because it's more dramatic. Sometimes percentage whatever, and 363 00:19:01,320 --> 00:19:05,040 Speaker 2: to go back and forth, and it's all very it's 364 00:19:05,119 --> 00:19:07,560 Speaker 2: designed to make it sound as great or as awful 365 00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:09,879 Speaker 2: as possible, to make it more exciting. But anyway, New 366 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:12,920 Speaker 2: York christ and on. This has been a big down 367 00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:15,520 Speaker 2: for the last week and a half or whatever since 368 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:17,680 Speaker 2: the Tarif announcement. No doubt about that. New York Post 369 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:21,679 Speaker 2: headline today, buckle up Nasga, DAX suffers biggest loss in 370 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:25,359 Speaker 2: three years, Dal falls eight ninety after Trump recession dodge, 371 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:28,840 Speaker 2: after Trump didn't absolutely just flat out say no to 372 00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:32,520 Speaker 2: the recession question. It's amazing how much news that made 373 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:35,680 Speaker 2: that one answer. And he knew that, like I said yesterday, 374 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:39,480 Speaker 2: he's aware of that, and he doubles down on Air 375 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:43,720 Speaker 2: Force one. Essentially, the significance of it is he didn't 376 00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:46,639 Speaker 2: say we will do everything we need to to avoid 377 00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:47,200 Speaker 2: a recession. 378 00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:50,040 Speaker 3: That's why that's significant, right, which gets to what we 379 00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:52,000 Speaker 3: were saying last hour. I wish he would give some 380 00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:54,560 Speaker 3: sort of speech where he explained what his long game 381 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:57,240 Speaker 3: is and why I think he can get more people 382 00:19:57,280 --> 00:20:00,199 Speaker 3: on board or calmed down. I think that is so 383 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:03,760 Speaker 3: obviously a great idea. It is shocking to me it 384 00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:04,760 Speaker 3: hasn't happened yet. 385 00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:10,359 Speaker 2: Drudge hates Trump, but his headlines economy cracks, stocks lose 386 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:13,120 Speaker 2: four trillion dollars. Oh, that's one of the things about 387 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:15,920 Speaker 2: the news reporting. I feel like it's for people who 388 00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:19,800 Speaker 2: don't understand that that money didn't actually disappear, never to 389 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:22,160 Speaker 2: come back. It's that the stock is down and yeah, 390 00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:25,479 Speaker 2: adds up to four trillion, But unless you sold yesterday, 391 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:27,159 Speaker 2: you didn't actually lose the money, and it could be 392 00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:29,200 Speaker 2: back up in two weeks and nothing happened. 393 00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:31,840 Speaker 3: I mean, well, and you quote unquote lost the money 394 00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:34,240 Speaker 3: from if you would have sold it three weeks ago. 395 00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:36,960 Speaker 3: So it's all, yeah, imaginary, it's not even on paper, 396 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:37,840 Speaker 3: it's in the ether. 397 00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:41,119 Speaker 2: Any who so, getting to Mark Alprin's newsletter today, I 398 00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:43,000 Speaker 2: think he is a fair arbiter of these sorts of things, 399 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:46,760 Speaker 2: and he gets a lot of He has a lot 400 00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:51,399 Speaker 2: of connections in left and right, Republican and Democrat. He 401 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:55,520 Speaker 2: wrote this Monday, when job boning by all Trump economic 402 00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:59,000 Speaker 2: advisors could not stop a market selloff or deter business leaders, 403 00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:03,800 Speaker 2: economic analysis analysts, Paul's and Trump supporters from calling, texting, 404 00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:06,760 Speaker 2: and emailing me to say the sky is falling, and 405 00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:10,600 Speaker 2: it is in their collective view explicitly and unambiguously Trump's fault. 406 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:14,479 Speaker 2: In my career, I don't recall anything quite like Mundy 407 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:17,800 Speaker 2: as Whoosh, Team Trump lost the confidence of a bunch 408 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:21,159 Speaker 2: of key actors in one fell swoop. Thought that was 409 00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:22,520 Speaker 2: interesting that behind. 410 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:25,040 Speaker 3: The scenes a lot of people that normally really really 411 00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:27,760 Speaker 3: big on Trump werecalling Mark Aperton saying what the hell 412 00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:33,040 Speaker 3: is he doing? The business world, the American business world, 413 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:37,240 Speaker 3: was absolutely confident that Trump would slash regulations and make 414 00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:40,720 Speaker 3: permanent tax cuts and that would be his main thrust. 415 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:45,280 Speaker 3: This whole call it protectionism, you know, seeking a new 416 00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:48,280 Speaker 3: global norm for trade, whatever you want to call it, 417 00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:50,640 Speaker 3: is surprising to them and it's led to a great 418 00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:51,480 Speaker 3: deal of uncertainty. 419 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:53,200 Speaker 2: Business hates uncertainty. 420 00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:56,080 Speaker 3: Right, And then I got to get to what I 421 00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:59,040 Speaker 3: was talking about yesterday, which I fully fully believe. I mean, 422 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:02,600 Speaker 3: don't well feel like the Wall Street journal crowd has 423 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:05,359 Speaker 3: your best interest in mind. They have the best interest 424 00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:08,400 Speaker 3: of like what's gonna make the Dow close higher today 425 00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:10,720 Speaker 3: for a lot of the crowd who actually does day 426 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:14,200 Speaker 3: trade or certainly this quarter not what's best for America 427 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:17,200 Speaker 3: long term. And you know, fortunately or unfortunately, I guess 428 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:20,080 Speaker 3: Anne Ryan would say, that's the way it's supposed to work. 429 00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:22,040 Speaker 3: You know, they're looking out for themselves. That's what drives 430 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:25,200 Speaker 3: the whole thing. But yeah, I would say, as a 431 00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:28,400 Speaker 3: guy who reads practically cover to cover the journal every 432 00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:33,879 Speaker 3: single day, they have a wide range of opinions and 433 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:38,200 Speaker 3: writers there. Not all of them are merely chasing quarterly profits. 434 00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:43,440 Speaker 3: But I wanted to get to this, and I didn't 435 00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:43,679 Speaker 3: know this. 436 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:45,840 Speaker 2: So Mark Alpernan has a bunch of links to a 437 00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:49,719 Speaker 2: whole bunch of different newspaper articles talking about the how 438 00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:52,719 Speaker 2: much damage has been done, whether it's temporary, long term, 439 00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:55,439 Speaker 2: blah blah blah. Then this team Trump came in with 440 00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:57,560 Speaker 2: the theory of the case that they could rebalance the 441 00:22:57,600 --> 00:23:01,479 Speaker 2: economy by shifting economic activity back to the private sector 442 00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:04,359 Speaker 2: from the public sector. It's part of the whole doge 443 00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:08,240 Speaker 2: thing and tariffs together. Trump advisors have said they think 444 00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:12,240 Speaker 2: the government is now twenty five percent of the economy. 445 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:17,000 Speaker 2: Mark Awprin said, in reality, it's way higher, maybe closer 446 00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:22,560 Speaker 2: to fifty percent. Wow, what fifty percent of the economy 447 00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:25,920 Speaker 2: is the government with Medicare and Medicaid. No one wants 448 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:28,080 Speaker 2: to admit it, but to a large extent, the US 449 00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:32,000 Speaker 2: economy has really just become the US government spending in transfers. 450 00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:34,640 Speaker 2: This is evidenced by the fact that we've been running 451 00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:38,120 Speaker 2: huge fiscal deficits during strong economic times, and the new 452 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:41,439 Speaker 2: Treasury Secretary has proposed fixing this by cutting government spending 453 00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:44,679 Speaker 2: with musk combined with tariffs, to rebalance trade, to rebuild 454 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:48,119 Speaker 2: American manufacturing. But to bring it home, he gets into 455 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:50,360 Speaker 2: we live in a wah blah blah blah blah blah. 456 00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:55,840 Speaker 2: The top ten percent. Studies have shown there's a very 457 00:23:55,880 --> 00:24:01,160 Speaker 2: high correlation between their propensity to spend, with spending being 458 00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:03,679 Speaker 2: you know, two thirds of our economies people going out 459 00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:09,439 Speaker 2: and spending money and where the stock prices are for 460 00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:13,080 Speaker 2: whatever reason, when the top ten percent are feeling wealthy, 461 00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:17,159 Speaker 2: they buy stuff. But if they're not feeling wealthy, they don't. 462 00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:20,919 Speaker 2: And this especially is true now, and this could get 463 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:27,959 Speaker 2: us into a real doom loop of tariffs, negative feelings, 464 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:30,840 Speaker 2: stock market going down, people pulling back, et cetera, et cetera, 465 00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:33,920 Speaker 2: cutting the government, which is half the economy. You see, 466 00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:34,800 Speaker 2: there's the spiral. 467 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:37,600 Speaker 3: If DOGE is laying off people and cutting the government 468 00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:40,240 Speaker 3: and it's fifty percent of the economy, that automatically is 469 00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:42,400 Speaker 3: going to drop the economy, which makes the rich ten 470 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:45,000 Speaker 3: percent spend less, which drops the economy. 471 00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:46,359 Speaker 2: And it's just that, you see, it's a cycle that 472 00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:46,960 Speaker 2: could catch on. 473 00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:51,280 Speaker 3: Yeah. My only objection to that theory, or a question 474 00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:54,719 Speaker 3: I have about it, is that what DOGE is doing 475 00:24:55,720 --> 00:25:00,920 Speaker 3: is nibbling around the edges of the actual thing, fiscal pie. 476 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:04,400 Speaker 2: Sure. I don't appreciate it because I like the edges 477 00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:08,960 Speaker 2: of the pie. Oh, fiscal pie ambitious. Uh. And it's 478 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:11,160 Speaker 2: funny because you have conservatives saying. 479 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:13,960 Speaker 3: They're they're they're not attacking entitlements and that's most of 480 00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:17,400 Speaker 3: the budget blah blah blah blah. But at the same time, 481 00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:19,720 Speaker 3: it might cause a doom loop. I just I don't 482 00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:20,400 Speaker 3: I don't know. 483 00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:25,320 Speaker 2: Well, nobody ever knows on any of this stuff, as 484 00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:29,960 Speaker 2: we've said for years, because if you were the old thing, 485 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 2: if you ask you know, ten economists, you'll get eleven opinions. 486 00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:38,359 Speaker 2: Or there's only two people that understand uh, the global 487 00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:42,359 Speaker 2: economy and they don't agree, you know, any of those sayings. 488 00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:44,600 Speaker 2: And but you know, if you could predict this stuff, 489 00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:47,960 Speaker 2: well you'd be the richest person on planet Earth, you know, immediately, 490 00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:51,120 Speaker 2: so that you know, there's a lot of moving pieces 491 00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:53,400 Speaker 2: and theory and everything like that. But I do find 492 00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:57,040 Speaker 2: that very troubling. Yeah, all of it's troubling. 493 00:25:57,640 --> 00:26:00,119 Speaker 3: I find myself imagining if Trump were to craft the 494 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:04,520 Speaker 3: sort of message you've suggested, explaining exactly what his goals are, 495 00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:07,480 Speaker 3: why it's going to be worth enduring a bit of 496 00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:10,920 Speaker 3: pain or upheaval for a while, be it two years 497 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:13,320 Speaker 3: or more likely five or ten or fifteen or twenty years, 498 00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:19,440 Speaker 3: because that would get the popular support. Doing something difficult 499 00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:23,240 Speaker 3: would require, because there's one thing democracies are terrible at, 500 00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:27,359 Speaker 3: that's doing what is difficult. Like in your family, you 501 00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:31,360 Speaker 3: could say, hey, we are going to severely restrict spending 502 00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:34,159 Speaker 3: for this year to get a down payment together to 503 00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:37,000 Speaker 3: buy the house, or make the investment, or open the 504 00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:38,159 Speaker 3: business we've long dreamed of. 505 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:39,000 Speaker 4: You can do it. 506 00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:40,639 Speaker 3: You're on the wall of a house with a pool 507 00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:42,000 Speaker 3: and say this is why we're doing it. 508 00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:43,159 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know. 509 00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:45,520 Speaker 3: I've always been a fan of the like the thermometer 510 00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:49,040 Speaker 3: thing where you actually track your savings, because it gives 511 00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:50,240 Speaker 3: you enthusiasm for it. 512 00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:51,920 Speaker 4: Judy and I used to do that when we were young. 513 00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:56,000 Speaker 3: Anyway, as a family, you can do that. But democracies 514 00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:59,199 Speaker 3: are famously horrible at saying all right, we're all going 515 00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:02,119 Speaker 3: to endure some pain for a while an austerity plan, 516 00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:02,960 Speaker 3: it happens. 517 00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:04,560 Speaker 4: I don't think we're it's hard to get going. 518 00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:07,480 Speaker 2: I don't think we're grown up enough for this. I 519 00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:10,639 Speaker 2: think we're too used to easy sale in smooth saleing. 520 00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:14,680 Speaker 3: But even if Trump were to do that, though, Wall 521 00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:18,160 Speaker 3: Street would probably freak out for a while, and then 522 00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:21,280 Speaker 3: people would see it, would check their four one ks 523 00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:26,040 Speaker 3: and freak out, and I just I don't know if 524 00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:31,119 Speaker 3: we have the right stuff to institute what Trump's talking 525 00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:35,199 Speaker 3: about before it's a horrible emergency. 526 00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:38,399 Speaker 2: Well imagine if Trump or somebody representing Trump came out 527 00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:41,240 Speaker 2: and gave a speech says, look, half the economy is 528 00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:41,800 Speaker 2: the government. 529 00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:44,280 Speaker 3: Do you know that half the economy the government? And 530 00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:46,200 Speaker 3: that can't be that's not sustainable. 531 00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:48,280 Speaker 2: And our debt is this, and our deficit is this, 532 00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:51,959 Speaker 2: and you know our payments are this, and blah blah blah. 533 00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:54,640 Speaker 2: And if that wasn't go ahead, sorry, there's more. 534 00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:55,639 Speaker 4: No, that's fine. 535 00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:56,440 Speaker 2: I was gonna say. 536 00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:59,240 Speaker 3: And if if that wasn't bad enough, folks, here's the 537 00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:03,040 Speaker 3: chunk of they that would collapse and you would starve 538 00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:05,439 Speaker 3: if China decides to jump ugly. 539 00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:08,040 Speaker 2: So A, we got to rain in the government. 540 00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:11,679 Speaker 3: B we've got to wean ourselves from being China junkies. 541 00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:16,160 Speaker 3: Their economic heroin is they're gonna pull it back on us, 542 00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:16,919 Speaker 3: and we're gonna be. 543 00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:19,480 Speaker 2: On our hands and knees and our economy is. 544 00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:22,840 Speaker 3: Gonna be puking and turning green and pooping on itself. Wow, 545 00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:25,040 Speaker 3: because they're gonna pull it out cold turkey. 546 00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:26,679 Speaker 2: Do you want that? Do you want that? 547 00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:29,879 Speaker 3: Huh? Okay, We're gonna restructure the economy. You would be 548 00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:31,679 Speaker 3: a disgusting economics teacher. 549 00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:36,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, but compelling hm uh, there's no way this works 550 00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:39,360 Speaker 2: because we have an election every two years. We're already 551 00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:44,520 Speaker 2: like a year away from constantly talking about the mid 552 00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:49,040 Speaker 2: terms and uh, and the Democrats are gonna run on 553 00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:51,840 Speaker 2: He says, we can't blah blah blah. We say you 554 00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:54,400 Speaker 2: we can blues with me. 555 00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:59,080 Speaker 3: Everybody says, yeah, I want everything for nothing, And there 556 00:28:59,120 --> 00:28:59,400 Speaker 3: you go. 557 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:03,480 Speaker 2: So the summarize were doomed. I'm moving along, aren't you 558 00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:04,360 Speaker 2: glad you tuned in? 559 00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:06,440 Speaker 4: Oh boy? 560 00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:10,200 Speaker 2: But everybody should me and everyone we should realize we're 561 00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:13,440 Speaker 2: not retiring today what the stock market does today unless 562 00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:16,040 Speaker 2: you are retiring today somebody listening somewhere. 563 00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:18,320 Speaker 3: And so then I hope you would have restructured your 564 00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:19,680 Speaker 3: your investments. 565 00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:22,760 Speaker 2: If somebody somewhere on our seventy stations listening is retiring 566 00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:27,320 Speaker 2: today or yesterday, he retired yesterday, I understand while you're upset. 567 00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:36,480 Speaker 1: Sorry, sorry, Jack Armstrong and Joe The Armstrong and Getty Show, 568 00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:42,480 Speaker 1: arm Strong and Geeddy Show. 569 00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:47,480 Speaker 3: So, speaking of generations, I thought this was both amusing 570 00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:53,200 Speaker 3: and slightly annoying. But it's an article about how evidently 571 00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:59,560 Speaker 3: some demographer social researcher by the name of Mark mccrindall 572 00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:02,640 Speaker 3: has been come the go to guy for naming generations. 573 00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:06,240 Speaker 2: Never heard of this guy, And the just of the 574 00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:07,280 Speaker 2: article is. 575 00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:11,680 Speaker 3: That he believes the whole like coming up with a 576 00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:15,320 Speaker 3: groovy name for the generation and seeing if it catches 577 00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:16,920 Speaker 3: on is kind of dumb. 578 00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:21,240 Speaker 2: Well, I gotta believe that he or whoever was in charge. 579 00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:24,320 Speaker 2: They came up with gen X way back in the day. 580 00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:26,880 Speaker 2: I mean, this was the eighties when they started talking gen. 581 00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:30,240 Speaker 3: X and far the coolest generation name, by the way, 582 00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:32,760 Speaker 3: not just because of my year of birth. And then 583 00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:34,840 Speaker 3: at the meeting where they came up with jen Y, 584 00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:37,280 Speaker 3: somebody should have raised their hand and say, hey, I 585 00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:40,160 Speaker 3: see like a problem coming down the road we might 586 00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:42,800 Speaker 3: want to get ahead of with this whole lettering thing. 587 00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:45,080 Speaker 2: We're running out of letters in the alphant What are 588 00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:45,520 Speaker 2: we gonna do? 589 00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:49,960 Speaker 3: Well, you got this silent generation, who weren't silent at 590 00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:53,400 Speaker 3: all at the old hodown. And then you got the 591 00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:56,880 Speaker 3: greatest generation, a fine generation, thanks for winning World War Two. 592 00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:59,360 Speaker 4: But you know there's some good spot. 593 00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:01,720 Speaker 3: Then you at the baby boomers. So there are a 594 00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:03,680 Speaker 3: bunch of babies that once and now I'm a boomer, 595 00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:07,440 Speaker 3: the most selfish generation that had ruined everything. Oh there's 596 00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:12,280 Speaker 3: that is fair criticism hippies and yeah, damn hippies. And 597 00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:15,040 Speaker 3: then then you got Generation X, again by far the 598 00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:17,760 Speaker 3: coolest name. They go through a couple more letters, and 599 00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:20,280 Speaker 3: then they, having run out of letters, they go with millennials, 600 00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:22,000 Speaker 3: and then then. 601 00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:23,360 Speaker 4: What's the next one? 602 00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:28,560 Speaker 3: It doesn't matter anyway, So this guy says, all right, 603 00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:29,680 Speaker 3: we got to quit screwing around. 604 00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:30,840 Speaker 4: We'll just use Greek letters. 605 00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:34,680 Speaker 3: Okay, so generation alpha just happened a while back, but 606 00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:36,440 Speaker 3: now it's generation beta. 607 00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:39,360 Speaker 2: When did alpha thing? Because I never even heard generation alpha? 608 00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:43,720 Speaker 3: I know, I know, but apparently those who talk about 609 00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:47,040 Speaker 3: this crap have. But anyway, the point is now it's 610 00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:50,680 Speaker 3: generation beta. And of course beta is an insult in 611 00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:53,680 Speaker 3: the modern world, right it means, for instance, a weak 612 00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:58,640 Speaker 3: and passive man or something. And so there are parents 613 00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:03,960 Speaker 3: evidently who are offended now their children are being Can 614 00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:07,080 Speaker 3: we stop naming generations completely? 615 00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:09,160 Speaker 2: What is a generation? 616 00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:09,600 Speaker 4: Even? 617 00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:13,160 Speaker 3: I mean Generation X fans for like twenty three years 618 00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:13,640 Speaker 3: or something. 619 00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:16,760 Speaker 2: This is crazy. Well, there's a number of problems with 620 00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:19,720 Speaker 2: it that are fairly obvious. But at least back. 621 00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:24,280 Speaker 3: In the day, you know how much changed between you know, 622 00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:26,200 Speaker 3: this decade and that decade. 623 00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:31,640 Speaker 2: Not a ton, whereas now, holy crap, if you're growing 624 00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:35,120 Speaker 2: up in the smartphone world, it's completely different than the 625 00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:36,160 Speaker 2: pre smartphone world. 626 00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:40,040 Speaker 3: It just is, right, So let's go with more descriptive 627 00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:44,920 Speaker 3: names like the smartphonies or or all digital weirdos or 628 00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:50,840 Speaker 3: I don't yeah, I'm just spitballing here. Uh yeah, yeah, yeah. 629 00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:54,160 Speaker 3: The change has been so massive so quickly, you might 630 00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:57,360 Speaker 3: have to go like every five and a half years, right, 631 00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:01,160 Speaker 3: have a new quote unquote generation if because you know, 632 00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:03,880 Speaker 3: mostly I think it's useless. But if I'm a boss 633 00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:07,640 Speaker 3: and you can say, all right, this next person we've 634 00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:11,320 Speaker 3: known or we've hired is a beta zoomer, and you 635 00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:13,720 Speaker 3: look it up and you see, oh, beta zoomers are 636 00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:17,280 Speaker 3: extremely insecure and need to be coddled like little kittens. 637 00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:20,080 Speaker 3: On the other hand, they're rebellious and blah blah. It 638 00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:21,800 Speaker 3: might be a tool to help you deal with them. 639 00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:25,200 Speaker 2: Right, It seems like giant world changing events would be 640 00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:28,920 Speaker 2: better than just picking years like every so many years. 641 00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:32,200 Speaker 2: Like I mentioned, smartphones, COVID would be a good marker 642 00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:34,920 Speaker 2: if you were, you know, in if you're in grade 643 00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:38,360 Speaker 2: school during COVID, you I know, teachers say those are 644 00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:42,360 Speaker 2: different kinds of kids. How did jen X get its name? 645 00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:43,120 Speaker 4: Fat? 646 00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:45,400 Speaker 3: I mean, what a what does that even mean? How 647 00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:50,080 Speaker 3: about Watergate and Vietnam made us very cynical? Plus half 648 00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:53,640 Speaker 3: of our parents got divorced. I mean it's kind of long, 649 00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:59,719 Speaker 3: but yeah, the latch Key generation anyway, Yeah, don't call 650 00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:00,760 Speaker 3: them Generation Beta. 651 00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:05,240 Speaker 2: It's hurtful, so so dumb. 652 00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:12,000 Speaker 3: Did you know that seventy percent of TikTok's revenue comes 653 00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:17,640 Speaker 3: from live streaming gifts. When people are doing live streamy stuff, 654 00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:23,600 Speaker 3: you gifts or gifts gifts like presents. Yes, you can 655 00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:26,239 Speaker 3: give people these little things that are called what are 656 00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:28,680 Speaker 3: they called, their like little tokens. 657 00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:33,359 Speaker 4: That they can redeem into real money. 658 00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:38,120 Speaker 3: It's huge into sex live streaming. We need someone younger 659 00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:42,240 Speaker 3: than us, Katie. Well, I'm trying to explain it to you, 660 00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:44,400 Speaker 3: you old man. I need somebody who's done it. 661 00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:46,239 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, it's you. 662 00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:48,920 Speaker 5: Just go on and they have different dollar amounts so 663 00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:52,560 Speaker 5: you can send from fifty cents up to one thousand dollars, 664 00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:53,160 Speaker 5: I think. 665 00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:57,680 Speaker 3: To tip them digitally exactly. That was a digital tipsy. 666 00:34:57,760 --> 00:34:59,759 Speaker 3: Why did this catch on? Is it just easier or 667 00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:03,839 Speaker 3: more fun or well as opposed to and mowing them 668 00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:07,560 Speaker 3: or sending them a car. Oh, it's immeasurably easier. You 669 00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:09,960 Speaker 3: have an account, you click click, they get a dollar 670 00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:12,759 Speaker 3: of your money and then they can show you their 671 00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:17,200 Speaker 3: blankety blank or whatever. And TikTok allegedly has filters for this, 672 00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:20,319 Speaker 3: but they're super easy to get around. You use just 673 00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:23,279 Speaker 3: use slang terms, including local slang terms. Because it's a 674 00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:27,600 Speaker 3: global app. And so there's an enormous child porn market 675 00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:32,000 Speaker 3: on TikTok. These underage girls from all over the world, 676 00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:35,560 Speaker 3: who will you know, perform various acts or show off 677 00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:40,759 Speaker 3: or whatever, and and TikTok gets a cut of that. Well, 678 00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:42,799 Speaker 3: first of all, I'll show you whatever part you want 679 00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:44,000 Speaker 3: to see for a five spot. 680 00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:46,920 Speaker 2: If there's any demand, give you a ten not to 681 00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:49,040 Speaker 2: That's what I'll do. 682 00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:50,920 Speaker 3: I'll start a bidding war, and that's will I'll make 683 00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:52,920 Speaker 3: my money and they please don't. 684 00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:55,800 Speaker 2: Well went out, but I'll be the benefit. It's not temptation, 685 00:35:55,960 --> 00:36:00,520 Speaker 2: it's extortion. I'll it's Runny's threat. 686 00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:06,359 Speaker 1: Jack Armstrong and Joe Gatty, the Armstrong and Daddy Joe 687 00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:09,160 Speaker 2: M