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Speaker 1: Welcome to the solid verbal hull. That for me, I'm

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Speaker 1: a man, I'm for it. I've heard so many players say, well,

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Speaker 1: I want to be happy. You want to be happy

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Speaker 2: Is that?

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Speaker 1: Woo whoo? And Dan and Tie.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to the solid Verbo boys and girls. My

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Speaker 2: name is Ty Hildebrandt, joining me as always. Still way

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Speaker 2: over there, Dan Rubinstein in sunny southern California, Sir, how

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Speaker 2: you doing. I'm great, Ty, I am great, and thank

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Speaker 2: you for asking. We've been planning this show for a while.

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Speaker 2: We have a lot to get to, both in the

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Speaker 2: present tense, both in the past tense. Then we'll go

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Speaker 2: into the future. I'm excited to check off as many

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Speaker 2: of these stories and honestly awkward moments and if there's

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Speaker 2: anything that I feel like we've lost, maybe these past

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Speaker 2: couple years, as I've transitioned away from the daily grind

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Speaker 2: of working for a media company, one of those big

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Speaker 2: I can't wait, good good good mom listens, knowing that

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Speaker 2: perhaps people at your secret day job listen.

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Speaker 1: Maybe friends listen. Thanks could follow up and give additional

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Speaker 1: information fill in some blanks. I love all of this,

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Speaker 1: so I want to get back to our roots here.

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Speaker 2: Generally, I like to say that we're not just co hosts.

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Speaker 2: We're very good friends. But yeah, tonight, depending on the

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Speaker 1: Lie hm, I like it. This is we got to

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Speaker 1: push ourselves, Tiele. That's what we have to do always

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Speaker 2: for some of you who may be listening bright and

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Speaker 2: into our two show per week format, right, because these

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Speaker 2: are weird times, perhaps end times, who knows. We have

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Speaker 2: today you've got a show. This is Wednesday, this is

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Speaker 1: Dan. Yes, So for the time being, two shows a

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Speaker 1: week Wednesday and Friday, released at six am. And then

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Speaker 1: we're ramping up even more with we hope the season

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Speaker 2: on in the verbowlerhood is by following us on social media.

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Speaker 2: We've got Twitter, We've got Facebook, We've got an Instagram account,

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Speaker 1: WK very hot right now. It's equal parts. I've taken

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Speaker 1: People are sick of the details I give about my life.

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Speaker 1: But you're, you're, it's that JJ abrams. What's in the box? Yeah, okay,

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Speaker 1: what's in Entie's brain? You're given people? You're you're, you're

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Speaker 1: give them that sweet sugar water Tie that they want

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Speaker 2: Well, the topic of tonight's show. The main topic of

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Speaker 2: the situation at Oklahoma State. Mike Gundy pictured as part

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Speaker 2: a news network. That news network set off Cuba Hubbard,

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Speaker 2: CHEWBA tweeted out about how that was unacceptable. He would

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Speaker 1: It would have been nice to me speak for myself

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Speaker 1: I don't care your ideologies. I don't care where you

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Speaker 1: Yes, And I remember owning La Gears because my parents

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Speaker 1: The fact that he wears this shirt knowing that coaches

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Speaker 1: it's obviously quite tone deaf, and there is you know,

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Speaker 1: this point should understand what happens in terms of media

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Speaker 1: and then sees that I get the enough is enough thing,

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Speaker 1: you know, point to, Well, if he were wearing a

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Speaker 1: Maybe maybe, And there is definitely a bigger conversation to

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Speaker 1: I think that's a conversation that could be had by

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Speaker 1: and we saw it with I think it's Brendan Eagles

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Speaker 2: considered a quote unquote big winner.

433
00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:08,960
Speaker 1: Yeah. Even the games they lost last season, I don't

434
00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:11,080
Speaker 1: know what they were, and they think they got just

435
00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:16,160
Speaker 1: trounced by Utah, But otherwise they lost decisively to Oklahoma State.

436
00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:20,600
Speaker 1: But Hawaii is close, Stanford is close, Washington is close.

437
00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:23,000
Speaker 1: Even the Oregon loss in the Civil War, I think

438
00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:25,280
Speaker 1: they held him to seventeen offensive points. They gave up

439
00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:28,639
Speaker 1: a touchdown on a kickoff return, And obviously Wazoo was

440
00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:31,240
Speaker 1: that crazy last second. It was fifty something to fifty

441
00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:34,399
Speaker 1: something in a loss. So in terms of it's not

442
00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:36,440
Speaker 1: just five and seven and losing three or four games

443
00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:41,000
Speaker 1: by seventeen points. It's in or impressive in all of

444
00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:44,920
Speaker 1: those losses. Perhaps other than that Utah game, which you're

445
00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:47,440
Speaker 1: talking about things going another way. They're seven and five

446
00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:50,639
Speaker 1: hayten four, So they're trending in such a direction that

447
00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:53,200
Speaker 1: the degree of difficulty, even though he has fewer wins

448
00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:55,920
Speaker 1: than some other names on this list, from where they're

449
00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:58,479
Speaker 1: coming from and how he himself has stocked the program

450
00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:01,680
Speaker 1: a lot of transfers, He's hired really well coaching wise, Yeah,

451
00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:03,320
Speaker 1: I'm good with them as a big winner.

452
00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:07,240
Speaker 2: Now our second question, I'm just going to do this. Okay, okay,

453
00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:11,000
Speaker 2: who isn't winning big? But who at least feels like

454
00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:12,400
Speaker 2: they're trending in the right direction?

455
00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:16,280
Speaker 1: I e. Who do you think feels a little poke

456
00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:22,720
Speaker 1: coming through? In? I don't like that that phrase who's poking? True?

457
00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:27,080
Speaker 1: In who's getting close? A little too close? You said

458
00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:29,760
Speaker 1: you got a couple stories about that with your dance history?

459
00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:35,520
Speaker 1: Incorrect Continue, I'm certain Jeremy Pruett is in this category

460
00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:39,600
Speaker 1: with correct. How Tennessee ended their season last year, and

461
00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:42,280
Speaker 1: let's be clear, they were not at all prepared to

462
00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:46,520
Speaker 1: begin their twenty nineteen campaign losing the way they did

463
00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:51,320
Speaker 1: those first two weeks, but they won their final you know,

464
00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:54,560
Speaker 1: the tennisans their final slew of games and became ball

465
00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:59,000
Speaker 1: eligible and have momentum, especially on the recruiting trail going

466
00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:02,800
Speaker 1: into the twenty twenty season. And you know, Jared Guarantano

467
00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:05,639
Speaker 1: has an offensive coordinator back for the first time in

468
00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:08,440
Speaker 1: his career, and Jim Cheney and defensively, they certainly took

469
00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:11,439
Speaker 1: steps forward. They are one of the teams and this

470
00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:13,520
Speaker 1: is how I like to think about it. They're a

471
00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:17,320
Speaker 1: team that is drafting right behind. This is drafting in

472
00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:19,000
Speaker 1: terms of like how you would like run or bike

473
00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:21,600
Speaker 1: right behind the person in front of you, drafting behind

474
00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:27,359
Speaker 1: the opportunity truck. They're not ready to trounce anybody really

475
00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:30,800
Speaker 1: good right now in the SEC, but they're ready behind

476
00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:33,879
Speaker 1: that opportunity truck if something were to fall off. If

477
00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:35,439
Speaker 1: something were to fall off, we can pick it up.

478
00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:38,520
Speaker 1: They're ready. They're ready for that. If Jamie Newman and

479
00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:42,400
Speaker 1: the Georgia offense it doesn't click, Tennessee's ready to take

480
00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:46,120
Speaker 1: advantage if Alabama has more injury trouble at quarterback, if

481
00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:49,080
Speaker 1: for whatever reason they can't replicate what their offense was

482
00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:51,840
Speaker 1: with all of those receivers, those great receivers from last year.

483
00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:53,200
Speaker 1: Tennessee's ready.

484
00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:57,080
Speaker 2: So they're not like the Apex predator, but they're no

485
00:25:57,160 --> 00:25:59,720
Speaker 2: the Turkey vulture. They're the scavenger, just waiting for the

486
00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:00,480
Speaker 2: dead carcass.

487
00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:03,199
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's I think you have to be that

488
00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:07,240
Speaker 1: before you become a team of killers. And so I

489
00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:08,879
Speaker 1: don't ever think that they're going to be an eleven

490
00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:12,280
Speaker 1: and one team with this current roster, especially on offense.

491
00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:15,520
Speaker 1: You know, Jared Garantano's nice when he's playing well, but

492
00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:18,280
Speaker 1: I don't think he is that Apex as like as

493
00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:20,480
Speaker 1: you like to say. So I think they're putting themselves

494
00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:22,280
Speaker 1: in a nice position. They have a quarterback of the future.

495
00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:24,200
Speaker 1: I think his name is Harrison Bailey. Will be a

496
00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:26,840
Speaker 1: freshman this year, and he comes pretty well regarded as

497
00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:29,920
Speaker 1: a blue chip guy. They have talent all over the place,

498
00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:32,760
Speaker 1: really good corners on defense, the linebackers are promising. So

499
00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:36,800
Speaker 1: where Jeremy prue It has this Tennessee program is impressive.

500
00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:40,120
Speaker 1: But we could have said that about the last guy

501
00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:42,880
Speaker 1: too in year three. So they have to I think

502
00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:44,639
Speaker 1: in looking at their schedule this year, and we'll get

503
00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:46,760
Speaker 1: into it in the preview. They have to split like

504
00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:50,000
Speaker 1: either beating Florida at home or winning in Norman against

505
00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:52,000
Speaker 1: a first year quarterback, that there has to be that

506
00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:54,280
Speaker 1: step forward to me that they start the season. I

507
00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:56,040
Speaker 1: think it's either three and one or four in one.

508
00:26:56,760 --> 00:27:00,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've got Prewet here as well. And you know,

509
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:03,480
Speaker 2: I think you added a lot of detail there that

510
00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:05,119
Speaker 2: is meaningful and needed.

511
00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:07,800
Speaker 1: Thank you for this. Ye're welcome for this conversation.

512
00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:11,160
Speaker 2: But I would just add that I remember talking about

513
00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:14,040
Speaker 2: the Tennissance towards the end of last year and Tennessee,

514
00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:18,359
Speaker 2: you know, maybe it's not all where it needs to

515
00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:21,160
Speaker 2: be right now to be any kind of SEC East contender,

516
00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:25,000
Speaker 2: but they did play hard and it does feel as

517
00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:27,520
Speaker 2: if things are going in a good drig A little

518
00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:29,760
Speaker 2: poked in, I would say, just a little poke.

519
00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:33,720
Speaker 1: You're starting to feel it, starting to feel out tie

520
00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:36,840
Speaker 1: who they beat down the stretch last year? Doesn't that

521
00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:40,320
Speaker 1: feel like an opportunity truck stretch where you have Miszoo

522
00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:43,280
Speaker 1: completely careening out of control. You got to beat Miszoo.

523
00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:46,160
Speaker 1: You have Mississippi State going through the issues that they had,

524
00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:48,280
Speaker 1: and that was not a pretty game. Tennessee wins it

525
00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:50,760
Speaker 1: Kentucky doesn't have a quarterback. They have Linn Bowden junior,

526
00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:53,639
Speaker 1: who's arguably scarier than a quarterback, but they don't have

527
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:57,480
Speaker 1: a passing threat. Tennessee takes advantage. Tennessee is drafting off

528
00:27:57,520 --> 00:28:00,000
Speaker 1: the opportunity truck pretty well right now, and I'm curious

529
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:02,359
Speaker 1: to see where it goes. I got Jimbo Fisher in

530
00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:03,960
Speaker 1: this category, as.

531
00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:09,720
Speaker 2: Do I Jimbo Fisher right now again through two seasons.

532
00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:12,679
Speaker 2: Is that seventeen and nine had a killer schedule a

533
00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:17,439
Speaker 2: year ago. Frankly, it was comical how difficult that schedule was.

534
00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:22,000
Speaker 2: But I still believe in Jimbo. He has done a

535
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:24,680
Speaker 2: really good job on the recruiting trail, and I think

536
00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:27,520
Speaker 2: before long that'll start to pay dividends in big way.

537
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:30,840
Speaker 2: We actually got a question here about Jimbo, which we'll

538
00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:33,520
Speaker 2: get into momentarily, asking where he I think where he

539
00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:35,680
Speaker 2: ranks in the pecking order in the SEC West.

540
00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:36,440
Speaker 1: We'll get there, but.

541
00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:42,520
Speaker 2: It's just so tough to rate teams in the SEC West,

542
00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:46,280
Speaker 2: knowing how loaded it is. But I feel confident in

543
00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:48,280
Speaker 2: what he brings to the table. I feel confident in

544
00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:50,840
Speaker 2: what we've seen, the returns we've seen on the recruiting trail,

545
00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:55,480
Speaker 2: and I know in this era of when now we're

546
00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:57,800
Speaker 2: go home, I just think it's going to take him

547
00:28:57,800 --> 00:28:59,600
Speaker 2: a little bit of time to get his guys in there,

548
00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:02,120
Speaker 2: to get us system in there, and I would fully

549
00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:05,440
Speaker 2: expect they're going to be competing fairly regularly for the

550
00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:06,200
Speaker 2: SEC West.

551
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:09,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, their last two full recruiting classes were number four

552
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:11,760
Speaker 1: and six nationally. I don't know where it stacks up

553
00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:14,640
Speaker 1: in terms of average recruit rating, but they've put together

554
00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:18,840
Speaker 1: really impressive classes, pretty complete, thorough classes these past couple

555
00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:21,400
Speaker 1: of years, and I imagine they will this round as well.

556
00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:24,520
Speaker 1: They have two blue chip quarterbacks behind Kellen Mond, and

557
00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:26,680
Speaker 1: their youth is stacked. I think you have to be

558
00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:29,640
Speaker 1: encouraged if you're an A and M fan about potentially

559
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:31,840
Speaker 1: what this depth chart looks like these next couple of years.

560
00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:34,840
Speaker 1: Their offense did get worse last year. They ran the

561
00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:36,960
Speaker 1: ball really well a couple of years ago, culminating in

562
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:39,600
Speaker 1: that blowout of a Bowl game after they had that

563
00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:45,360
Speaker 1: crazy seven overtime game against LSU, but they were generally

564
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:47,520
Speaker 1: decent and losses a couple of years ago that was

565
00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:50,480
Speaker 1: the two point Clemson loss at home. They blew that

566
00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:53,840
Speaker 1: Auburn game Bama wasn't pretty, but it wasn't as bad

567
00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:57,160
Speaker 1: as other teams fared against Alabama and then they just

568
00:29:57,200 --> 00:30:00,400
Speaker 1: got boat raced completely by LSU this past c But

569
00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:03,920
Speaker 1: we're close against other really really good teams like Georgia,

570
00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:08,360
Speaker 1: So I think you are correct in your analysis. This

571
00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:11,440
Speaker 1: year is a little bit is I guess it's new

572
00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:13,480
Speaker 1: for Texas A and M because the offense needs to

573
00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:16,240
Speaker 1: get better. They have experience a quarterback. They bring in

574
00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:19,440
Speaker 1: James Coley, who I think is a good position coach,

575
00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:22,200
Speaker 1: but not necessarily a good coordinator. He's coming into coach

576
00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:23,880
Speaker 1: tight ends. They have a new running backs coach who's

577
00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:27,080
Speaker 1: super well regarded, a new linebackers coach, a new cornerbacks coach.

578
00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:30,280
Speaker 1: So there is a bit of refreshing, which I actually

579
00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:32,880
Speaker 1: look at as a positive. Take a couple of years,

580
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:35,560
Speaker 1: you see what and who is working, what's not really working,

581
00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:39,840
Speaker 1: and then sort of reprogram things, update your firmware, tie

582
00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:41,840
Speaker 1: and I think Jimbo's done a pretty good job of that.

583
00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:44,720
Speaker 1: But you're also right that's it's just going to be

584
00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:48,760
Speaker 1: an uphill battle. Forget LSU, forget Mississippi State, forget Ole

585
00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:52,000
Speaker 1: miss forget you know, you can forget Arkansas. That's fine.

586
00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:54,720
Speaker 1: Just you're in the same division as Alabama and Auburn,

587
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:58,360
Speaker 1: and that's just any year that's going to be an

588
00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:01,800
Speaker 1: extremely difficult, as you like to say, a poke breakthrough.

589
00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:07,160
Speaker 1: So sure, I'm encouraged by where Jimbo Fisher is. I

590
00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:10,880
Speaker 1: need a better if he's an offensive guy, ty, I'm

591
00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:13,440
Speaker 1: gonna need a twenty top twenty offense here. Right, Well,

592
00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:14,320
Speaker 1: let's let's.

593
00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:16,320
Speaker 2: Talk about that much talent me let me stay with that,

594
00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:19,680
Speaker 2: and I want to move to the next category. We've

595
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:23,200
Speaker 2: labeled it basically, who's not a nightmare, but who's trending

596
00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:25,120
Speaker 2: in like an iffy direction.

597
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:28,840
Speaker 1: By the way, I also have HERM trending in the

598
00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:30,200
Speaker 1: right direction. Yeah, I have HERM there?

599
00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:33,200
Speaker 2: Can we can we save him until we get to

600
00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:36,800
Speaker 2: guys that were shot a couple crossover categories, Yeah, yeah,

601
00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:41,600
Speaker 2: shocked AARs succeeding. Let's save HERM for after this next

602
00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:45,680
Speaker 2: bit here, which is again guys who they're not a nightmare,

603
00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:49,080
Speaker 2: but we're not really sure which direction they're going sort

604
00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:52,800
Speaker 2: of an iffy territory right now, right, I've got both

605
00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:57,320
Speaker 2: Scott Frost and Kevin someone now I said, they're both

606
00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:01,520
Speaker 2: nine and fifteen in two years. Where do you standing

607
00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:04,560
Speaker 2: these two guys? Hey, who do you feel better about?

608
00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:10,120
Speaker 1: I would not qualify quantify Arizona as an iffy direction

609
00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:13,680
Speaker 1: right now. I think it's plummeting in Tucson. Really, so

610
00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:17,400
Speaker 1: I just have Scott Frost in this territory just because

611
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:20,680
Speaker 1: there were moments in year one with Adrian Martinez where

612
00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:23,080
Speaker 1: there appeared to be so much promise. You rewatch that

613
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:25,320
Speaker 1: Ohio State game. I want to say it was in Columbus.

614
00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:28,520
Speaker 1: The step back was pretty pronounced. Though they do finish

615
00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:31,840
Speaker 1: the season losing very close to Iowa in some weird,

616
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:35,040
Speaker 1: awful weather, and so that's at least a respectable way

617
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:38,040
Speaker 1: to finish out year two. I mean, if there are

618
00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:41,600
Speaker 1: moral victories, I guess. I just I'm not encouraged by

619
00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:44,480
Speaker 1: what the future of Nebraska football looks like as compared

620
00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:47,120
Speaker 1: to where things left off at UCF, which we can

621
00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:50,600
Speaker 1: get to. I can, we can. Yeah, I would qualify.

622
00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:53,760
Speaker 1: I would. I would count Kevin Sumlan as plummeting when

623
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:55,520
Speaker 1: you look at the recruiting, when you look at the results,

624
00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:58,400
Speaker 1: when you look at what happened with having Khalil Tait

625
00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:01,000
Speaker 1: and JJ Taylor in your backfield being able to generate

626
00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:03,480
Speaker 1: a I know, I don't understand the receiver and offensive

627
00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:06,640
Speaker 1: line issues, but you can't figure something out there after

628
00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:09,600
Speaker 1: what they did together before he arrived. That to me

629
00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:14,240
Speaker 1: is even with a promising quarterback in Grant Gunnell. Gunnell,

630
00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:17,800
Speaker 1: I'm just out. You know, we have a question about

631
00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:20,840
Speaker 1: Kevin someonin and what might happen this fall. I just

632
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:22,240
Speaker 1: don't I don't see it getting revert.

633
00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:24,520
Speaker 2: Let me, let's let's go to some of those questions.

634
00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:26,040
Speaker 2: We'll start to weave them in a little bit here

635
00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:28,320
Speaker 2: because I think, yeah, I think this is a good

636
00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:32,440
Speaker 2: place to do it. Okay, you got a question here

637
00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:36,960
Speaker 2: that says, considering the diametrically opposed responses to their hires,

638
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:40,000
Speaker 2: what has been the difference in herm Edwards being a

639
00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:44,440
Speaker 2: relative success at ASU and someone being a relative failure

640
00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:49,440
Speaker 2: in Tucson. So a few things for me here. First,

641
00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:52,880
Speaker 2: on the Someone front, last year, the defense was a

642
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:56,400
Speaker 2: total disaster. And that's on top of it being pretty

643
00:33:56,400 --> 00:34:00,320
Speaker 2: bad in twenty eighteen. I don't know if that's new

644
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:04,320
Speaker 2: to anything. Kevin Someblan's touched as a football coach, right

645
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:07,200
Speaker 2: like defense has not necessarily been the calling card there.

646
00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:11,160
Speaker 2: What jumps out at me the most about him at

647
00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:15,000
Speaker 2: Arizona is how much the offense has actually struggled. As

648
00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:18,560
Speaker 2: he said Khalil Jate JJ Taylor, you would expect a

649
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:22,200
Speaker 2: little bit more, and especially if you go back and

650
00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:24,360
Speaker 2: look what they did against the better teams in their schedule,

651
00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:28,560
Speaker 2: they got destroyed. Offense was supposed to be the calling card,

652
00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:31,480
Speaker 2: and I don't think that's been the case, even with

653
00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:36,240
Speaker 2: some decent talent at Arizona for someone so that jumps

654
00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:39,160
Speaker 2: out at me about him, and on the Herm front, Look,

655
00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:42,879
Speaker 2: I had Herm in my category, which maybe we can

656
00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:46,000
Speaker 2: get to about who I'm shocked to succeeding. And look,

657
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:48,680
Speaker 2: we all talked a good game, we all yucked it

658
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:53,080
Speaker 2: up with him taking over and maybe not knowing what

659
00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:57,160
Speaker 2: the mascot was and saying some strange things at his

660
00:34:57,239 --> 00:35:00,520
Speaker 2: introductory pressor. But I do think it's fair to say

661
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:06,160
Speaker 2: it's been a relative success. The offense and defense sort

662
00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:08,200
Speaker 2: of traded places in years one and two. For her

663
00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:09,640
Speaker 2: first year, the.

664
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Speaker 1: Offense was okay, the defense is bad. Last year it

665
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:14,560
Speaker 1: was it was the opposite.

666
00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:16,440
Speaker 2: It does feel like they play with a lot of

667
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:19,080
Speaker 2: fight though, and if you look last year, I think

668
00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:21,839
Speaker 2: what for of their five losses something like that were

669
00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:25,080
Speaker 2: one score games, And it feels like they've got a

670
00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:27,600
Speaker 2: nice piece to build around now with Jayden Daniels. He

671
00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:30,240
Speaker 2: had a really good freshman campaign only through two picks,

672
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:33,319
Speaker 2: ran for over five hundred yards. Like I don't know,

673
00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:35,680
Speaker 2: it feels like that team has played well as a unit,

674
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:41,040
Speaker 2: albeit an ugly fashion here and there, but they've played

675
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:45,319
Speaker 2: motivated football, which is something I like to look for.

676
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:47,240
Speaker 2: And I do feel good about some of the talent

677
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:50,440
Speaker 2: that's on that roster as opposed to Arizona, which I

678
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Speaker 2: like you said, I'm not sure I know which direction

679
00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:52,920
Speaker 2: is headed.

680
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:57,160
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure, Okay, So what I see is the

681
00:35:57,239 --> 00:36:00,880
Speaker 1: difference is what we generally see from successful coaches when

682
00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:04,680
Speaker 1: they arrive at a school, is the successful coach says,

683
00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:07,239
Speaker 1: here's what I want our program to be. I'm going

684
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:09,640
Speaker 1: to go out and find the people on a coaching

685
00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:12,120
Speaker 1: staff and on the football staff and in an athletic

686
00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:15,200
Speaker 1: department that can help me realize my vision. This is

687
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:18,600
Speaker 1: what I want the program to be. Xyz and Herm

688
00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:21,400
Speaker 1: Edwards went to Arizona State and said and maybe we

689
00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:23,440
Speaker 1: laughed at it. I mean, I'm sure we probably had

690
00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:25,160
Speaker 1: a couple chuckles at it. He said, I want to

691
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:28,600
Speaker 1: run this like an NFL franchise. I wanted to be

692
00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:30,879
Speaker 1: top down. I wanted to you know, I want this

693
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:34,080
Speaker 1: kind of structural operation going on here, and this kind

694
00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:36,360
Speaker 1: of structural operation going on here. I want to recruit

695
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:38,880
Speaker 1: southern California. I want to hire people who can recruit

696
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:42,480
Speaker 1: southern California. I admire like what Danny Gonzalez is doing

697
00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:45,319
Speaker 1: at San Diego State. I admire that San Diego State

698
00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:47,719
Speaker 1: three three five. So I'm going to institute that. I'm

699
00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:50,160
Speaker 1: going to bring in, you know, the coordinator they brought

700
00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:52,720
Speaker 1: in now his name escapes me from cal and Kansas,

701
00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:54,920
Speaker 1: who was pretty well regarded in the industry. I'm going

702
00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:57,279
Speaker 1: to recruit Jaden Daniels and I'm going to close that

703
00:36:57,440 --> 00:37:00,520
Speaker 1: deal to have a blue chip, promising young quarterb We're

704
00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:02,120
Speaker 1: gonna bring him in and we're going to empower him

705
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:04,400
Speaker 1: and we like him and surround him with smart people.

706
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:09,240
Speaker 1: At Arizona, it was Kevin Somemlan saying, well, I worked

707
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:12,239
Speaker 1: with these people before. I'm gonna have I'm gonna keep

708
00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:14,880
Speaker 1: Marcel Yeates on because I you know, he was moderately

709
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:16,960
Speaker 1: successful at Textas A and M when they overlap there,

710
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:19,520
Speaker 1: and for continuity's sake at Arizona, we're going to keep

711
00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:21,960
Speaker 1: him on as the defensive coordinator. I'm gonna bring in always.

712
00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:24,120
Speaker 1: I never remember if it's Nolan Mazon or Nolan MAZONI,

713
00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:26,120
Speaker 1: and I don't think I want to know Tie, but

714
00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:28,520
Speaker 1: I'm gonna bring him. I'm gonna bring him from College

715
00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:31,759
Speaker 1: Station as well with me. And it just felt like

716
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:35,239
Speaker 1: there was not a in Kevin Someone's mind. I am

717
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:38,719
Speaker 1: rebooting after my experience at Texas A and M. This

718
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:41,360
Speaker 1: is everything I screwed up. This is how I'm starting

719
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:44,279
Speaker 1: over where it just seems like he's just sort of

720
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:48,080
Speaker 1: continuing everything that was questionable at Texas A and M,

721
00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:51,480
Speaker 1: continuing that same path without really self evaluating. And so

722
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:54,880
Speaker 1: he hasn't recruited Southern California, well, he hasn't recruited anywhere

723
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:58,040
Speaker 1: all that well, after everything that we learned about what

724
00:37:58,120 --> 00:37:59,480
Speaker 1: he was doing at A and M, with how well

725
00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:02,160
Speaker 1: he recruited in East Texas and the swag copter and

726
00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:07,319
Speaker 1: everything like that, that completely ended, and so it just

727
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:10,400
Speaker 1: seemed like he wanted a job to have a job,

728
00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:13,200
Speaker 1: whereas Herm Edwards was motivated to do things in a

729
00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:16,920
Speaker 1: very specific way. Will it pay off in a like

730
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:22,160
Speaker 1: PAC twelve championship or a Pack twelve South A Division championship.

731
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Speaker 1: I'm not crazy confident, but at least you know, they

732
00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:28,800
Speaker 1: beat Oregon, a top ten team last year in dramatic

733
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Speaker 1: fashion on Saturday night on National TV. They beat Michigan State,

734
00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:34,719
Speaker 1: a not great Michigan State team, but that had an

735
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Speaker 1: audience and they win that game in an ugly way

736
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Speaker 1: two years in a row, and so they're at least

737
00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:43,799
Speaker 1: performing to bigger stages and first comes that and then

738
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:48,880
Speaker 1: comes potentially consistency because they're recruiting. I think they're like

739
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Speaker 1: a top four recruiting team. There's a kind of a

740
00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:56,399
Speaker 1: golf right now after Oregon, Washington and USC, but the

741
00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:59,160
Speaker 1: focus is there. I think that's the big difference that

742
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:02,080
Speaker 1: ASU is trying in a very real way.

743
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Speaker 2: Well, and we got a question from Josiah who says,

744
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Speaker 2: do you think Arizona State can be a PAC twelve contender?

745
00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:12,640
Speaker 2: Can Herm build them into a contender?

746
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Speaker 1: And you know.

747
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:17,600
Speaker 2: Everyone always asks this question, Sure, do you think so

748
00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:21,600
Speaker 2: and so can make so and so a contender? Do

749
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Speaker 2: I think he can make it to the PAC twelve

750
00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:25,080
Speaker 2: South title game?

751
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Speaker 1: Yeah? Sure?

752
00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:31,680
Speaker 2: I mean Utah is I guess, the top dog in

753
00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:34,000
Speaker 2: the South. They're certainly the most stable at this point.

754
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:37,400
Speaker 2: But the South is kind of a mess. Even in

755
00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:40,400
Speaker 2: the North is kind of a mess. It's somewhat destabilized

756
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:43,799
Speaker 2: now with both of the Washington schools turning over their

757
00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:47,719
Speaker 2: coaching situation, Stanford maybe taking a step back. So you know,

758
00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:51,000
Speaker 2: I'm not saying there by any stretch like the favorite

759
00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:54,120
Speaker 2: to make that game, but I think they're a contender

760
00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:57,520
Speaker 2: insofar as yeah, they can make that PAC twelve title game.

761
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Speaker 1: Sure, who is I guess I was just thinking about

762
00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:02,839
Speaker 1: this while you were saying this. The person that might

763
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Speaker 1: decide the PAC twelve South is Jake Bentley. Is you

764
00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:10,000
Speaker 1: took quarterback Jake Bentley? You generally know? Is it Todd

765
00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:14,759
Speaker 1: Orlando new coordinator at SC. I don't know how many

766
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Speaker 1: names there are that could be a kind of disappointment

767
00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:21,520
Speaker 1: or a really nice breath of fresh air. Although we

768
00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:24,040
Speaker 1: really did like watching Tyler Huntley during the regular season

769
00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:28,520
Speaker 1: last year. So Utah has has you know, recent quarterback success,

770
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Speaker 1: But I think those are two of the bigger names.

771
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:35,320
Speaker 1: Jaden Daniels was inconsistent but rose to the occasion against

772
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Speaker 1: a team like Oregon rate season only through two picks,

773
00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:42,520
Speaker 1: but made some huge, huge throws. And I think it

774
00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:44,680
Speaker 1: had a good game against Oregon and Oregon States, so

775
00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:47,480
Speaker 1: two teams that you know, as Oregon State was not

776
00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:50,239
Speaker 1: a great team, but you know, if you're peaking later

777
00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:52,560
Speaker 1: on in the season, that's something I take into account.

778
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Speaker 1: So yes, I think ASU is in that opportunity truck

779
00:40:57,800 --> 00:41:02,080
Speaker 1: lane that Tennessee is in. They have positioned themselves to

780
00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:04,719
Speaker 1: be more solid across the board than they were at

781
00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:07,480
Speaker 1: the end of the Todd Graham era, and that's how

782
00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:10,600
Speaker 1: you position yourself when USC is going through the changes

783
00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:14,040
Speaker 1: and you know, taking a gap year recruiting that they

784
00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:17,680
Speaker 1: took in UCLA, not having upper level talent and perhaps

785
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:21,960
Speaker 1: not a defense that's worth anything, and Utah folding on

786
00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:24,879
Speaker 1: a big stage against a talented team. So I think

787
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:27,480
Speaker 1: they can absolutely compete for the division. I don't think

788
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:31,160
Speaker 1: they're on a conference championship caliber level, but they beat

789
00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:34,759
Speaker 1: the last year's champion, so sure, you know, opportunity truck.

790
00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:37,240
Speaker 2: Let me go back for a second to Scott Frost

791
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:39,040
Speaker 2: before we move on and talk about some of these

792
00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:41,520
Speaker 2: other coaches, because we did get a question about him,

793
00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:44,160
Speaker 2: and I think it's fair to ask at this point,

794
00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:48,840
Speaker 2: is Scott Frost a good coach? Or was Central Florida

795
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:54,440
Speaker 2: just a really fertile opportunity to succeed? Yeah, so all right,

796
00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:57,840
Speaker 2: let me take a step back here for a second,

797
00:41:57,920 --> 00:41:59,399
Speaker 2: because take that step back.

798
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:02,080
Speaker 1: This is going to be what year three for Scott

799
00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:05,240
Speaker 1: Frost and he's on our junior prom episode.

800
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:06,919
Speaker 2: I think you got to give these guys some time.

801
00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:11,080
Speaker 2: I think you contin everybody got to take a breath here,

802
00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:15,799
Speaker 2: give him a chance to build the system. All right,

803
00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:18,799
Speaker 2: just chill. I like Scott Frost. I think he's a

804
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:21,120
Speaker 2: good coach. I think the answer here is a little.

805
00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:22,600
Speaker 1: Bit of both, to be honest.

806
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:29,239
Speaker 2: It's it's partially like, Okay, UCF was very fertile opportunity.

807
00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:33,200
Speaker 2: They certainly didn't play a big ten West schedule, and

808
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:36,840
Speaker 2: I think that's in large part why the whole UCF

809
00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:39,960
Speaker 2: National Championship thing was like haha, tongue in cheek, right,

810
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:45,279
Speaker 2: mm hmm. But he's still a good coach and I

811
00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:47,640
Speaker 2: like what he is trying to do.

812
00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:49,480
Speaker 1: See a good coach. Why is he a good coach?

813
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:55,360
Speaker 2: I think he's incredibly I think he's incredibly innovative on offense.

814
00:42:56,719 --> 00:42:58,200
Speaker 2: And I know or.

815
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Speaker 1: Think it's a Chip Kelly guy. No, I think he's

816
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:04,879
Speaker 1: innovative on offense. Okay, I do, and I.

817
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:09,080
Speaker 2: Know Nebraska fans make attend that point after what they've seen, but.

818
00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:11,040
Speaker 1: He's calling the plays, this is his offense.

819
00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:13,520
Speaker 2: I still feel like he's an innovative guy on the

820
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:18,240
Speaker 2: offensive side the ball, and I am maybe more willing

821
00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:21,440
Speaker 2: than most to give him, give him some time. The

822
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:23,399
Speaker 2: truth of the matter is he did do a really

823
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:26,000
Speaker 2: good job at UCF. He did build that program up

824
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:30,000
Speaker 2: to a large extent and got them at least into

825
00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:33,080
Speaker 2: that national conversation because they were so high powered on offense.

826
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Speaker 2: Could have been partially the schedule, could have been partially

827
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Speaker 2: because it's a fertile opportunity, as our question asker worded it.

828
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Speaker 2: But I do think he deserves more time in Lincoln.

829
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Speaker 2: Let's see what he can do with another year of

830
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:50,080
Speaker 2: Adrian Martinez, and you know, maybe the benefit of some

831
00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:50,720
Speaker 2: more recruiting.

832
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Speaker 1: I would have hoped to have been that this is

833
00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:58,600
Speaker 1: such a bad grammar tie, I apologized to all of

834
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Speaker 1: our English teachers out there. I wish I were more

835
00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:04,760
Speaker 1: optimistic going into year three, and Scott Frost has always

836
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:08,520
Speaker 1: been extremely realistic about there is a lot of work

837
00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:10,840
Speaker 1: to do. I don't see a lot of guys on

838
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:13,759
Speaker 1: this roster things like that. He would start sentences in

839
00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:16,880
Speaker 1: that fashion a lot, So it's not as if he

840
00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:21,000
Speaker 1: has been publicly disappointed with what he thought he had. God,

841
00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:24,279
Speaker 1: this grammar's all over the place, ty, But to the

842
00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:30,160
Speaker 1: listener's point, the twenty seventeen American Athletic Conference, Ty, you

843
00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:33,600
Speaker 1: have year one Cincinnati four and eight, year one Luke Fickle,

844
00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:37,240
Speaker 1: Cincinnati four and eight, year one Jeff Collins, seven and six,

845
00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:39,839
Speaker 1: you have a good South Florida year, a ten wins

846
00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:42,359
Speaker 1: South Florida year and the other side, Memphis is good,

847
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:44,680
Speaker 1: but it's year one Major Apple White seven and five.

848
00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:47,360
Speaker 1: You have Navy as a five hundred team. They finished

849
00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:50,040
Speaker 1: season seven and six. I think it's the final season

850
00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:54,000
Speaker 1: of Chad Morris seven and six SMU. So certainly that

851
00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:58,680
Speaker 1: conference has come, even in just a couple years, a

852
00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:02,279
Speaker 1: pretty long way with the really strong coaching hires and performances.

853
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:05,040
Speaker 1: Even though Jeff Collins is now left. He did good

854
00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:08,720
Speaker 1: things at Temple. Temple keeps winning games, Temple beat Memphis

855
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:13,040
Speaker 1: this past year. I just maybe with only two years

856
00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:15,439
Speaker 1: at UCF, you have one year to just get turn

857
00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:18,200
Speaker 1: things around and they finish what six and seven year one,

858
00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:21,319
Speaker 1: and then they go undefeated. I'm not saying he did.

859
00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:24,239
Speaker 1: Anybody could have done that job because the steps at

860
00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:27,759
Speaker 1: that offense took with Mackenzie Milton and just putting up

861
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:30,280
Speaker 1: points and finishing the year that they did beating Auburn.

862
00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:34,600
Speaker 1: He did a flat out really good job. But also

863
00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:37,759
Speaker 1: the situation was pretty good. The situation was pretty good

864
00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:41,520
Speaker 1: for UCF, and coming into the situation he came into

865
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:45,520
Speaker 1: at Nebraska with the talent that Mike Riley left behind

866
00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:49,520
Speaker 1: or lack thereof, with the coaching that those guys had,

867
00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:53,759
Speaker 1: with the depth chart, with the malaise I feel like

868
00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:56,600
Speaker 1: in well, not Malays, but the expectations that were way

869
00:45:56,600 --> 00:46:01,400
Speaker 1: out of whack given where Nebraska fans general are. I

870
00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:04,360
Speaker 1: think it's such an uphill battle and for him to

871
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:07,480
Speaker 1: go into year three and say, I don't know who

872
00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:10,840
Speaker 1: we have playmaker wise on offense beyond Wandale Robinson, I

873
00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:13,400
Speaker 1: don't know who we're going to stop up front on defense.

874
00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:16,160
Speaker 1: That's a problem to me. Year three is when you're

875
00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:19,440
Speaker 1: supposed to have like a concept for how all of

876
00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:22,040
Speaker 1: the gears and pistons are going to be firing tie

877
00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:22,799
Speaker 1: and I don't see it.

878
00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:28,760
Speaker 2: I'm looking at their schedule for this coming season, and.

879
00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:31,040
Speaker 1: I know, I know you seven and L seven.

880
00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:34,080
Speaker 2: And oh, seven and oh feels like it is on

881
00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:38,080
Speaker 2: It is, it is on the table. It is possible.

882
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:40,000
Speaker 2: First seven games. You ready, you want to hear it.

883
00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:45,839
Speaker 2: I would love to Purdue, Central, Michigan, South Dakota State,

884
00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:53,640
Speaker 2: Jack Rabbits, Cincinnati, Northwestern Illinois, and Rutgers to first seven games.

885
00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:55,719
Speaker 2: Feel okay about those?

886
00:46:56,480 --> 00:47:00,799
Speaker 1: Not about Cincinnati once again, No, but the other ones.

887
00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:04,000
Speaker 1: You feel pretty good about six and one. You're strong team.

888
00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:07,680
Speaker 1: Final five relatively, I mean, we're gonna have a much

889
00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:11,280
Speaker 1: healthier Purdue team. All right, don't go through early on Okay,

890
00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:14,080
Speaker 1: you just did. No, final five games.

891
00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:18,640
Speaker 2: Go through these at Ohio State, home against Penn State,

892
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:24,040
Speaker 2: right at Iowa at Wisconsin and then home to close

893
00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:25,400
Speaker 2: out the year against Minnesota.

894
00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:31,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, don't. I don't feel great if Scott Frost goes

895
00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:31,879
Speaker 1: seven and five.

896
00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:34,600
Speaker 2: Even if you goes six and six with that schedule,

897
00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:39,200
Speaker 2: you think that'll be a success or will Huskers fans

898
00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:39,720
Speaker 2: be upset?

899
00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:42,560
Speaker 1: Oh, it will definitely not be a success. And if

900
00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:44,279
Speaker 1: they go six and six and seven and five and

901
00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:47,279
Speaker 1: lose games by thirty five, well that's different. They're gonna

902
00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:48,040
Speaker 1: be furious.

903
00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:50,480
Speaker 2: All right, let's move on here. I want to talk

904
00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:55,400
Speaker 2: about Charles chip Kelly. Okay, we've got a category on

905
00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:59,400
Speaker 2: our list here for coaches were shocked?

906
00:47:59,440 --> 00:47:59,919
Speaker 1: Aren't six?

907
00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:04,439
Speaker 2: I've got Charles chip Kelly in that bucket. My hunch

908
00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:06,800
Speaker 2: is that you don't. You've never thought he's going to succeed.

909
00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:08,319
Speaker 2: I became a.

910
00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:11,279
Speaker 1: Broken record, a broken record of I don't know. I

911
00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:14,160
Speaker 1: forget an organ chip, I don't know, forget an organ ship.

912
00:48:14,239 --> 00:48:15,400
Speaker 1: I said that a lot early on.

913
00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:21,479
Speaker 2: We got a question in this regard from Marcello. He asks, good, good,

914
00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:23,480
Speaker 2: dear friend of the show, dear friend of the show.

915
00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:27,120
Speaker 2: Now he wants to know, has Charles chip Kelly been

916
00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:31,680
Speaker 2: a fraud this whole time? Or is he ruined post

917
00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:36,480
Speaker 2: NFL or is UCLA just a poisonous place for anyone

918
00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:40,279
Speaker 2: trying to succeed there? The answer could be affirmative to

919
00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:43,879
Speaker 2: all of those questions. Frankly, but I'm going to defer

920
00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:45,560
Speaker 2: to you. I know you're the Charles chip Kelly, the

921
00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:49,400
Speaker 2: CCK expert here of the show. I'm gonna let you

922
00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:52,880
Speaker 2: take it. But just let me say this. In prepping

923
00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:57,000
Speaker 2: for this podcast, I believe I've discovered that I am

924
00:48:57,040 --> 00:48:59,120
Speaker 2: a Charles chip Kelly apologist?

925
00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:00,480
Speaker 1: Are you?

926
00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:04,799
Speaker 2: I think I am? I think it takes a man

927
00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:08,000
Speaker 2: to admit that. I can't come to grips with the

928
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:09,439
Speaker 2: fact that maybe he's not that great.

929
00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:16,160
Speaker 1: I cannot comprehend it. Here are some problems with I

930
00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:19,640
Speaker 1: think fully believing in UCLA short, medium term, maybe long term.

931
00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:23,360
Speaker 1: Though there's something there. He hasn't really made changes. He

932
00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:26,000
Speaker 1: made a change in the I think the secondary coach

933
00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:29,080
Speaker 1: he brought over from Navy. I like the fact that

934
00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:31,800
Speaker 1: Jimbo made changes at Texas A and M. I like

935
00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:35,480
Speaker 1: that Mario Christabaul made changes at Oregon. He you know,

936
00:49:35,520 --> 00:49:37,759
Speaker 1: these guys aren't necessarily happy with standing pat if a

937
00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:41,120
Speaker 1: specific unit isn't performing, or if a specific coach isn't

938
00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:45,120
Speaker 1: recruiting and pulling his weight. In that way, the offense

939
00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:49,200
Speaker 1: and defense, I guess improved from okay and bad to

940
00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:54,640
Speaker 1: from bad and the disaster. They're investing a whole lot

941
00:49:54,640 --> 00:49:59,319
Speaker 1: in Dorian Thompson Robinson, who I think is okay. I'm

942
00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:01,680
Speaker 1: not super high on him. I usually by this time,

943
00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:04,520
Speaker 1: by year three like to see something encouraging. I don't

944
00:50:04,520 --> 00:50:07,719
Speaker 1: feel like I've seen that. They're not recruiting all that well,

945
00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:10,480
Speaker 1: and that's sort of by design because Chip Kelly wants,

946
00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:14,239
Speaker 1: you know, that buy in toughness, you know, smarts, and

947
00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:17,239
Speaker 1: he's offering the blue chip guys who have that, but

948
00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:20,719
Speaker 1: for whatever reason, they're not interested in UCLA. So the

949
00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:24,399
Speaker 1: talent level isn't great. The dudes on offense aren't great,

950
00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:27,200
Speaker 1: which is very strange to see from what we perceive

951
00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:30,320
Speaker 1: to be a very smart offensive mind. I still believe

952
00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:34,520
Speaker 1: he is. They beat Wazoo in the crazy comeback. Last year,

953
00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:37,960
Speaker 1: they beat Stanford. They gave up fifty to Oregon State

954
00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:42,280
Speaker 1: in a loss. They lost San Diego State destroyed by Utah.

955
00:50:42,719 --> 00:50:44,719
Speaker 1: They battled with USC a little bit, but they lose

956
00:50:44,719 --> 00:50:47,600
Speaker 1: that game comfortably. I think they give up fifty plus

957
00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:51,200
Speaker 1: in that one as well. So I've seen a lot

958
00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:53,440
Speaker 1: of you know, our friend Bruce Feldman had along rite

959
00:50:53,520 --> 00:50:56,799
Speaker 1: up about UCLA, and he seems pretty optimistic. About the

960
00:50:57,040 --> 00:50:59,120
Speaker 1: depth and the type of talent. They have a lot

961
00:50:59,120 --> 00:51:01,160
Speaker 1: of track speed. This is high on track speed.

962
00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:01,399
Speaker 2: Tie.

963
00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:02,960
Speaker 1: I don't know if you know about that. I do.

964
00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:08,360
Speaker 1: I just watched UCLA football last year, and I understand

965
00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:10,360
Speaker 1: it's going to be a big climb. And I understand,

966
00:51:10,440 --> 00:51:12,440
Speaker 1: you know, I think Marcelo is a USC fan. So

967
00:51:13,239 --> 00:51:15,880
Speaker 1: take the term poisonous or whatever with a grain of salt.

968
00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:19,440
Speaker 1: Ucla is just generally gonna be an uphill climb football wise,

969
00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:21,160
Speaker 1: I don't think there's full buy in there. You're playing

970
00:51:21,160 --> 00:51:24,200
Speaker 1: in front of a third full stadium in the Rose Bowl.

971
00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:26,680
Speaker 1: It's just the football tradition is not there. That's a

972
00:51:26,680 --> 00:51:29,240
Speaker 1: basketball school, so that's always going to be that's always

973
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:31,560
Speaker 1: going to be difficult. I thought he would have this

974
00:51:31,600 --> 00:51:34,840
Speaker 1: team in a bowl in year two, No three and

975
00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:37,640
Speaker 1: nine to four and eight schedule this past year, though

976
00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:41,160
Speaker 1: it gets easier this year. Yeah, but not in a

977
00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:46,040
Speaker 1: bowl year or two in a down pack twelve Herm Edwards,

978
00:51:46,120 --> 00:51:51,040
Speaker 1: Kevin Sumlin. Yeah, David Shaw taking a step back Oregon State,

979
00:51:51,080 --> 00:51:55,120
Speaker 1: rebuilding Oregon with a brand new coach. I mean, Oregon

980
00:51:55,160 --> 00:51:59,799
Speaker 1: had the talent, but Colorado going through a ton can't

981
00:51:59,800 --> 00:52:02,839
Speaker 1: get into a bowl. I don't know. I'm I am

982
00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:05,560
Speaker 1: surprised they're not in a bowl. I'm not surprised they're not.

983
00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:06,319
Speaker 1: Ten and two.

984
00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:11,719
Speaker 2: Very difficult schedule last year they had an Oklahoma game

985
00:52:11,719 --> 00:52:15,480
Speaker 2: in there, some tough road spots at Utah.

986
00:52:15,520 --> 00:52:17,640
Speaker 1: Yeah. They opened at Cincinnati and they were super they

987
00:52:17,680 --> 00:52:19,400
Speaker 1: were they were shorthanded, they were missing a ton of

988
00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:21,279
Speaker 1: players against Cincinnati and lose that game.

989
00:52:21,560 --> 00:52:24,680
Speaker 2: But this year I do think it comes back a

990
00:52:24,719 --> 00:52:25,720
Speaker 2: little bit in their direction.

991
00:52:26,560 --> 00:52:28,879
Speaker 1: So we'll see. Are they in a bowl game? We'll

992
00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:31,000
Speaker 1: preview and you know a little bit. But are they

993
00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:33,120
Speaker 1: in a game? I think Scott, yeah, I think so.

994
00:52:33,640 --> 00:52:36,160
Speaker 1: All right, I think so. I don't know about eating four,

995
00:52:36,320 --> 00:52:39,359
Speaker 1: but six and six, yeah, I think. I don't think

996
00:52:39,360 --> 00:52:41,399
Speaker 1: they're an opportunity truck team yet though, I don't think

997
00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:44,440
Speaker 1: they're built for that. I like Kyle Phillips, but outside

998
00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:45,520
Speaker 1: of that, I don't know.

999
00:52:45,719 --> 00:52:47,719
Speaker 2: Some other questions here, by the way, are there any

1000
00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:50,680
Speaker 2: other coaches on this list that you want to throw

1001
00:52:50,719 --> 00:52:52,520
Speaker 2: out there? Are there any other coaches that you're shocked

1002
00:52:52,560 --> 00:52:53,360
Speaker 2: aren't succeeding.

1003
00:52:54,680 --> 00:52:56,920
Speaker 1: I was pretty that was pretty shocked that Joe Morehead

1004
00:52:56,920 --> 00:52:59,920
Speaker 1: couldn't make it work. In Mississippi State. He clearly wasn't

1005
00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:02,759
Speaker 1: the answer for all parties, I suppose, but I was

1006
00:53:02,800 --> 00:53:05,760
Speaker 1: surprised by that. I was pretty surprised Willie Taggart couldn't

1007
00:53:05,760 --> 00:53:09,840
Speaker 1: get Florida State to operational. I'm surprised with talent on

1008
00:53:09,880 --> 00:53:12,880
Speaker 1: both sides. Given, yes, there were some very specific weaknesses.

1009
00:53:13,120 --> 00:53:16,720
Speaker 1: I see you former Florida State offensive line, but that, yeah,

1010
00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:19,200
Speaker 1: that was surprising me. Chad Morris not as much. I

1011
00:53:19,239 --> 00:53:21,120
Speaker 1: wasn't that impressed with what he did at SMU and

1012
00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:23,520
Speaker 1: Arkansas is going to be a heavy lift. Matt Luke.

1013
00:53:23,640 --> 00:53:26,080
Speaker 1: I liked the coordinator hires last year, but that was

1014
00:53:26,520 --> 00:53:28,399
Speaker 1: sort of a situation that seemed like he was set

1015
00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:29,000
Speaker 1: up to fail.

1016
00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:35,000
Speaker 2: The Taggart one is I think the big one to me, because, yeah,

1017
00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:39,120
Speaker 2: especially if you consider the situation the manner in which

1018
00:53:39,160 --> 00:53:42,239
Speaker 2: he left Oregon to go to Florida State. Florida State

1019
00:53:42,360 --> 00:53:45,600
Speaker 2: was deemed as his dream job, you know, the dream job.

1020
00:53:45,640 --> 00:53:47,879
Speaker 2: Those two words they bring a lot of gravitas.

1021
00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:50,680
Speaker 1: If he doesn't take it now, when will it come

1022
00:53:50,719 --> 00:53:53,160
Speaker 1: open again? Yeah? He seemed like such.

1023
00:53:52,920 --> 00:53:56,760
Speaker 2: A sure thing, and in reality it was anything but it.

1024
00:53:56,760 --> 00:54:00,840
Speaker 2: It failed spectacularly. We'll see where they go now with

1025
00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:09,040
Speaker 2: Mike Norvelle. But Willy Taggart is coaching elsewhere, and that

1026
00:54:09,080 --> 00:54:10,759
Speaker 2: one will forever remain a surprise to me.

1027
00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:14,520
Speaker 1: Just don't get it. Yeah, I mean, he is just

1028
00:54:14,680 --> 00:54:17,719
Speaker 1: not a major power five head coach. That is is

1029
00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:20,480
Speaker 1: what I have learned well from watching him coach at

1030
00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:22,920
Speaker 1: Oregon and at Florida State. And you know, perhaps he

1031
00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:25,960
Speaker 1: will succeed at FAU and we'll get some good football

1032
00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:26,880
Speaker 1: from the owls.

1033
00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:32,759
Speaker 2: Are there any Are there any buy low candidates in

1034
00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:35,600
Speaker 2: this field? So maybe coaches that aren't doing as well

1035
00:54:35,600 --> 00:54:39,680
Speaker 2: as you'd expect, but you could still buy low on them.

1036
00:54:39,719 --> 00:54:43,320
Speaker 2: Are there any coaches that maybe you want to sell

1037
00:54:43,440 --> 00:54:47,439
Speaker 2: high where it's looking good now but you doubt it's

1038
00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:48,080
Speaker 2: going to last.

1039
00:54:48,600 --> 00:54:52,840
Speaker 1: I'll throw Billy Napier out there. Are you buying high?

1040
00:54:53,560 --> 00:54:55,839
Speaker 1: I would? I love him.

1041
00:54:56,520 --> 00:55:00,880
Speaker 2: I'm selling high because I think a lot. Yeah, I

1042
00:55:00,920 --> 00:55:01,319
Speaker 2: love them.

1043
00:55:01,520 --> 00:55:01,919
Speaker 1: I do.

1044
00:55:03,200 --> 00:55:06,120
Speaker 2: I think he's not long for that job at Louisiana.

1045
00:55:06,840 --> 00:55:08,399
Speaker 1: I think because he's going to get a bigger job

1046
00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:11,880
Speaker 1: because I go to South Carolina or something. Yeah, okay,

1047
00:55:12,360 --> 00:55:14,359
Speaker 1: I think he did cojah Clemson. It didn't end well.

1048
00:55:14,520 --> 00:55:17,680
Speaker 2: The South Carolina move could be interesting if it falls

1049
00:55:17,800 --> 00:55:19,759
Speaker 2: if it falls through with wil mush Champ at some

1050
00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:22,680
Speaker 2: point in time. But that's the only reason I would

1051
00:55:23,040 --> 00:55:24,480
Speaker 2: I would sell high on him. I think he's a

1052
00:55:24,520 --> 00:55:25,200
Speaker 2: really good coach.

1053
00:55:25,600 --> 00:55:27,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean he was at He's coached I guess

1054
00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:29,400
Speaker 1: in a couple different areas of the country. He was

1055
00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:33,200
Speaker 1: at ASU for a little while, obviously spent time at Alabama. Man,

1056
00:55:33,960 --> 00:55:36,359
Speaker 1: his timing could work out. I think he's still it's

1057
00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:38,960
Speaker 1: still probably too big a jump from the rage in

1058
00:55:39,040 --> 00:55:42,680
Speaker 1: Cajun's to the Tide. If he goes twelve and oh

1059
00:55:42,719 --> 00:55:45,359
Speaker 1: this year and finally gets overapp State, I think they

1060
00:55:45,440 --> 00:55:50,600
Speaker 1: lost to the Mountaineers twice last year. He could position

1061
00:55:50,680 --> 00:55:53,879
Speaker 1: himself well, but that seems still like a pretty big

1062
00:55:53,960 --> 00:55:57,680
Speaker 1: leap to Alabama. If a Sabin retirement is imminent, that's

1063
00:55:57,719 --> 00:56:00,200
Speaker 1: a huge lee. I don't know about that. Yeah, No,

1064
00:56:00,239 --> 00:56:03,799
Speaker 1: it's big. It's definitely big. But that job, and I

1065
00:56:03,840 --> 00:56:06,080
Speaker 1: know we have questions about you know, who would take

1066
00:56:06,080 --> 00:56:08,320
Speaker 1: over at Alabama's that Mario Cristobal is at Jeremy Prue

1067
00:56:08,280 --> 00:56:10,240
Speaker 1: and you know Billy Napier also on the sab And tree.

1068
00:56:10,360 --> 00:56:12,399
Speaker 1: Would they go outside of the tree and really try

1069
00:56:12,400 --> 00:56:15,560
Speaker 1: to go after Dabo kind of thing, although it's Alabama Tree,

1070
00:56:15,560 --> 00:56:20,000
Speaker 1: not sab And Tree. It's a lot of pressure. It's

1071
00:56:20,040 --> 00:56:22,719
Speaker 1: a lot of pressure to be the guy after the

1072
00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:27,839
Speaker 1: capitalist t the guy. So I don't know specifically if

1073
00:56:27,880 --> 00:56:31,400
Speaker 1: that's attractive to these competitive dudes or they're going to

1074
00:56:31,480 --> 00:56:34,319
Speaker 1: have to find a guy who's willing to do it.

1075
00:56:34,440 --> 00:56:37,360
Speaker 1: So No, I've been crazy impressed with what billiy Napier

1076
00:56:37,360 --> 00:56:39,640
Speaker 1: did at Louisiana. They go I think seven and five

1077
00:56:39,680 --> 00:56:42,279
Speaker 1: to ten and two offense is nice. So he's a

1078
00:56:42,320 --> 00:56:45,440
Speaker 1: good coach, I really do it definitely is and I

1079
00:56:45,480 --> 00:56:49,120
Speaker 1: think unless there is something we don't know about him

1080
00:56:49,160 --> 00:56:53,719
Speaker 1: from a personality standpoint or a previous relationship with ads

1081
00:56:53,840 --> 00:56:57,160
Speaker 1: or agent's standpoint, almost like they were like whispers about

1082
00:56:57,200 --> 00:56:59,040
Speaker 1: Mike Norvell and why wasn't he getting a bigger job

1083
00:56:59,080 --> 00:57:02,800
Speaker 1: until he got Florida State eight. I think Billy Napier

1084
00:57:02,920 --> 00:57:04,600
Speaker 1: is set to get something interesting.

1085
00:57:04,800 --> 00:57:09,040
Speaker 2: Question here from Phil Dan Yes, have the Gators topped

1086
00:57:09,080 --> 00:57:13,960
Speaker 2: out at New Year's Six Bowls? This is a real question.

1087
00:57:14,520 --> 00:57:17,280
Speaker 2: Have the Gators talked out at New Year New Year?

1088
00:57:17,320 --> 00:57:20,360
Speaker 2: I can't even say New Year's Six Bowls?

1089
00:57:20,480 --> 00:57:23,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, with Mullen at the Helm.

1090
00:57:23,440 --> 00:57:25,840
Speaker 2: This is a ridiculous question, Phil, and I love you

1091
00:57:25,880 --> 00:57:27,240
Speaker 2: for listening, Thank you for asking.

1092
00:57:27,360 --> 00:57:29,280
Speaker 1: No, I don't think this is a ridiculous question. I

1093
00:57:29,320 --> 00:57:32,560
Speaker 1: think that's a good question. I think relative relative to

1094
00:57:32,680 --> 00:57:36,080
Speaker 1: how Florida fans feel about Dan Mullen, like he is

1095
00:57:36,200 --> 00:57:39,000
Speaker 1: going to be a good coach but never a great coach,

1096
00:57:39,080 --> 00:57:41,280
Speaker 1: that they're worried that he has a very specifically, you're

1097
00:57:41,320 --> 00:57:44,200
Speaker 1: looking at this from a different perspective than I am.

1098
00:57:44,240 --> 00:57:48,040
Speaker 1: Here within the context of Florida expectations and recent Florida

1099
00:57:48,080 --> 00:57:50,960
Speaker 1: history winning two national championships in the mid odds.

1100
00:57:52,800 --> 00:57:54,680
Speaker 2: I mean, they're not going to get Tim Tebow walking

1101
00:57:54,760 --> 00:57:58,080
Speaker 2: back through that door. But I feel like they are

1102
00:57:58,080 --> 00:58:00,800
Speaker 2: building in a very responsible way. I feel like Dan

1103
00:58:00,880 --> 00:58:04,840
Speaker 2: Mullen is going to fully harness that offense and that Okay,

1104
00:58:05,320 --> 00:58:08,560
Speaker 2: Florida will be a top the SEC East before long.

1105
00:58:08,840 --> 00:58:10,920
Speaker 2: I feel very good about their chances there. And No,

1106
00:58:11,040 --> 00:58:13,600
Speaker 2: I don't think they're topping out in a New Year's

1107
00:58:13,640 --> 00:58:14,360
Speaker 2: six Bowl game.

1108
00:58:15,920 --> 00:58:19,040
Speaker 1: The context for Florida right now to me is urban

1109
00:58:19,120 --> 00:58:22,560
Speaker 1: Meyer built and succeeded and had top one, two, three

1110
00:58:22,640 --> 00:58:27,280
Speaker 1: national recruiting classes when Nick Saban didn't exist at Alabama

1111
00:58:27,600 --> 00:58:31,160
Speaker 1: and when Kirby smart for even not being a champion

1112
00:58:31,320 --> 00:58:35,640
Speaker 1: yet in terms of national or you know, an ongoing

1113
00:58:35,760 --> 00:58:39,480
Speaker 1: SEC threat for five, six, seven years. He's recruiting like

1114
00:58:40,080 --> 00:58:43,440
Speaker 1: crazy there. Georgia is a massing talent in a crazy

1115
00:58:43,480 --> 00:58:46,840
Speaker 1: impressive way. Dan Mullen's recruiting classes have been fourteen, nine

1116
00:58:46,840 --> 00:58:49,280
Speaker 1: to nine, and I think the incomplete one right now

1117
00:58:49,360 --> 00:58:53,040
Speaker 1: is seven. They're top He is putting together top ten classes.

1118
00:58:53,480 --> 00:58:56,760
Speaker 1: Year one was pretty good. They The lost to Kentucky

1119
00:58:56,840 --> 00:58:59,240
Speaker 1: is probably going to ring louder for Florida fans and

1120
00:58:59,280 --> 00:59:03,520
Speaker 1: any win that's season. They weren't great against LSU last year,

1121
00:59:03,520 --> 00:59:05,720
Speaker 1: but they were competitive. They closed the gap against Georgia

1122
00:59:05,760 --> 00:59:09,480
Speaker 1: from where they were. The question to me is because

1123
00:59:09,480 --> 00:59:12,760
Speaker 1: he's recruited well enough, especially on defense, a lot of

1124
00:59:12,800 --> 00:59:16,520
Speaker 1: speed on the roster. You know in the depth chart

1125
00:59:16,600 --> 00:59:21,680
Speaker 1: right now backups that the youth is encouraging. I don't

1126
00:59:21,680 --> 00:59:24,800
Speaker 1: know what the quarterback situation of the future looks like.

1127
00:59:24,840 --> 00:59:27,520
Speaker 1: If it's Emery Jones, it's I think Anthony Richardson is

1128
00:59:27,560 --> 00:59:31,280
Speaker 1: the true freshman this season. I don't know that they

1129
00:59:31,320 --> 00:59:34,000
Speaker 1: have in the way that those great Florida teams did

1130
00:59:35,080 --> 00:59:38,160
Speaker 1: the crazy speed and talent at running back and receiver.

1131
00:59:38,720 --> 00:59:40,160
Speaker 1: That to me, I like their tight end. I like

1132
00:59:40,240 --> 00:59:43,720
Speaker 1: Kylie Pitts. Yet yes, yet, but again, if I'm gonna

1133
00:59:44,440 --> 00:59:47,440
Speaker 1: if I'm going to hold this against Scott Frost within

1134
00:59:48,160 --> 00:59:52,400
Speaker 1: you know the Gaiter binoculars that you know Florida fans wear.

1135
00:59:53,240 --> 00:59:57,360
Speaker 1: Not having that going into year three a depth there,

1136
00:59:57,800 --> 01:00:01,240
Speaker 1: given where Florida is, given what Florida has built up

1137
01:00:01,240 --> 01:00:05,080
Speaker 1: its brand to be, it's a concern. And as we've

1138
01:00:05,080 --> 01:00:08,160
Speaker 1: seen as things trend more and more towards offenses, Alabama

1139
01:00:08,200 --> 01:00:11,480
Speaker 1: and Clemson load up on these amazing receivers and running

1140
01:00:11,520 --> 01:00:13,480
Speaker 1: backs that are in New York that are getting drafted

1141
01:00:13,480 --> 01:00:17,360
Speaker 1: in the first round, and Florida doesn't have anything near that.

1142
01:00:18,000 --> 01:00:19,760
Speaker 1: But those are the teams that they have to go

1143
01:00:19,800 --> 01:00:21,920
Speaker 1: through to take that next step. Now, having been a

1144
01:00:21,920 --> 01:00:27,600
Speaker 1: new year six champ, I'm worried and maybe seven of

1145
01:00:27,640 --> 01:00:30,760
Speaker 1: them emerge this year, but we haven't consistently seen it

1146
01:00:30,800 --> 01:00:33,320
Speaker 1: these first couple of years. So that's again, I like

1147
01:00:33,360 --> 01:00:35,000
Speaker 1: the tight end. I like Kylie Pitt's, but all right,

1148
01:00:35,000 --> 01:00:38,960
Speaker 1: settle down, settle down. So that's my concern about are

1149
01:00:39,040 --> 01:00:40,840
Speaker 1: Florida fans going to get sick of ten and two.

1150
01:00:41,000 --> 01:00:41,880
Speaker 1: I think they might.

1151
01:00:41,880 --> 01:00:45,160
Speaker 2: Orange greenow who has the best chance to win a

1152
01:00:45,240 --> 01:00:50,320
Speaker 2: national championship in the SEC West outside of Bama Auburn.

1153
01:00:51,360 --> 01:00:54,480
Speaker 2: For LSU, they're current coaches.

1154
01:00:55,240 --> 01:00:59,920
Speaker 1: Who's your favorite friend outside of Chandler Joey Rachel.

1155
01:01:01,880 --> 01:01:06,240
Speaker 2: This is also a ridiculous question because outside of Bama,

1156
01:01:06,920 --> 01:01:11,120
Speaker 2: Auburn and LSU, your options are the Mississippi schools, both

1157
01:01:11,120 --> 01:01:14,960
Speaker 2: of which have turned over their coach, Arkansas with another

1158
01:01:15,000 --> 01:01:18,240
Speaker 2: new coach in Sam Pittman, or Texas A and M

1159
01:01:18,240 --> 01:01:21,200
Speaker 2: with Jimbo Fisher. Yeah, I believe both of us are

1160
01:01:21,240 --> 01:01:23,760
Speaker 2: pro Jimbo at this point. We're a fan of Jimbo.

1161
01:01:23,920 --> 01:01:28,280
Speaker 1: Yes, I think so. But it's also similar. I'm putting

1162
01:01:28,280 --> 01:01:30,680
Speaker 1: together the puzzle pieces from the other schools I've talked about,

1163
01:01:30,960 --> 01:01:33,680
Speaker 1: when are they going to get a downfield passing game

1164
01:01:33,760 --> 01:01:37,560
Speaker 1: consistently with Jimbo Fisher quarter, you know, getting Christian Ponder

1165
01:01:37,600 --> 01:01:40,080
Speaker 1: and EJ Manu, all these guys drafted in the first

1166
01:01:40,160 --> 01:01:44,160
Speaker 1: round and Jamis to a Heisman and national championship. When

1167
01:01:44,200 --> 01:01:47,360
Speaker 1: is that going to happen? I think I feel better

1168
01:01:47,400 --> 01:01:51,360
Speaker 1: about A and M than I do Auburn you would

1169
01:01:51,400 --> 01:01:54,240
Speaker 1: take the next three years. I mean, I'm not a

1170
01:01:54,240 --> 01:01:58,560
Speaker 1: bow Knicks fan, but I don't know. Auburn keeps winning

1171
01:01:58,560 --> 01:02:02,400
Speaker 1: big games few games in Alabama. What two of the

1172
01:02:02,400 --> 01:02:03,600
Speaker 1: past three years.

1173
01:02:03,600 --> 01:02:06,320
Speaker 2: They win big games, and the recruiting has been very strong.

1174
01:02:07,080 --> 01:02:13,280
Speaker 2: But I think, just for me personally, based solely on

1175
01:02:13,400 --> 01:02:18,280
Speaker 2: anecdotal personal evidence here, I I am so tired of

1176
01:02:18,400 --> 01:02:21,360
Speaker 2: the every other year gusmells On will he won't he

1177
01:02:21,440 --> 01:02:22,200
Speaker 2: get fired? Thing?

1178
01:02:22,480 --> 01:02:25,560
Speaker 1: That No, it's play calling tie whatever it is about

1179
01:02:25,600 --> 01:02:28,080
Speaker 1: play calling. I know, no, it ever firing thing is real.

1180
01:02:28,200 --> 01:02:32,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, Jim Bow's probably not going anywhere because they gave

1181
01:02:32,280 --> 01:02:35,000
Speaker 2: him a contract that has Texas with a dollar sign

1182
01:02:35,040 --> 01:02:35,400
Speaker 2: on it.

1183
01:02:35,640 --> 01:02:38,640
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I think that's a much more stable situation.

1184
01:02:40,600 --> 01:02:44,720
Speaker 1: I just I'm worried that there's a super rich man's

1185
01:02:44,800 --> 01:02:47,920
Speaker 1: Kevin Summons situation too. At play Chip Kelly thing at

1186
01:02:47,920 --> 01:02:53,080
Speaker 1: play where this is this is his you know, cashing

1187
01:02:53,120 --> 01:02:57,680
Speaker 1: out on all of his earlier efforts stage. I don't know.

1188
01:02:57,760 --> 01:02:59,920
Speaker 1: I hope not. We got time for two more questions, Dan,

1189
01:03:00,040 --> 01:03:02,440
Speaker 1: and you get to pick him. All right, let's go

1190
01:03:02,600 --> 01:03:07,440
Speaker 1: to we've actually answered a bunch of these. Somebody asked

1191
01:03:07,480 --> 01:03:10,160
Speaker 1: who the most stylish of these coaches was. I did research.

1192
01:03:10,240 --> 01:03:12,720
Speaker 1: I don't know if you looked up these guys in

1193
01:03:12,760 --> 01:03:15,960
Speaker 1: their clothing. Scott Scott Frost with the flat brim is

1194
01:03:15,960 --> 01:03:18,200
Speaker 1: a good look. Has he worn the flat brim? Usually

1195
01:03:18,200 --> 01:03:23,080
Speaker 1: he's ultra curved. I've seen him. I think at Oregon

1196
01:03:23,120 --> 01:03:24,920
Speaker 1: he wore flat brim? Did he?

1197
01:03:25,440 --> 01:03:28,960
Speaker 2: Yeah? Okay, that was a decent I don't recall. It's

1198
01:03:29,000 --> 01:03:30,560
Speaker 2: hard for me to go against someone here.

1199
01:03:32,080 --> 01:03:35,200
Speaker 1: Someone looked good. I looked at all of their opening pressers.

1200
01:03:35,320 --> 01:03:37,120
Speaker 1: Someone look good. I think I'm actually going to give

1201
01:03:37,120 --> 01:03:39,560
Speaker 1: it to Frost. I looked at all of these coaches

1202
01:03:39,640 --> 01:03:42,160
Speaker 1: introductory press conferences where they generally have to wear the

1203
01:03:42,200 --> 01:03:46,160
Speaker 1: color tie of the school whatever. And maybe it's because

1204
01:03:46,160 --> 01:03:48,320
Speaker 1: Scott Frost is just a trimmer dude than a lot

1205
01:03:48,360 --> 01:03:51,840
Speaker 1: of these guys, But even pictures that were not introductory

1206
01:03:51,840 --> 01:03:55,840
Speaker 1: press conference shots, I think Scott Frost wins the style

1207
01:03:56,040 --> 01:03:58,680
Speaker 1: icon of the solid verbal award. I think that's right.

1208
01:03:58,760 --> 01:04:02,040
Speaker 2: Okay, speaking of which, I don't know if I've ever

1209
01:04:02,080 --> 01:04:05,560
Speaker 2: seen a picture of Jonathan Smith before. Really, we've done

1210
01:04:05,560 --> 01:04:09,760
Speaker 2: the Hudson News test with Clay Helton. If Jonathan Smith

1211
01:04:09,840 --> 01:04:11,360
Speaker 2: knocked on my door, I wouldn't know it's him.

1212
01:04:11,680 --> 01:04:15,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's Reckon. He's more recognizable to me than because

1213
01:04:15,520 --> 01:04:19,880
Speaker 1: he also played relatively recently than Clay Hilton in a

1214
01:04:19,920 --> 01:04:22,120
Speaker 1: Hudson News. But I don't think either of these guys

1215
01:04:22,120 --> 01:04:24,040
Speaker 1: are going to be in a lot of Hudson News

1216
01:04:24,200 --> 01:04:29,200
Speaker 1: is moving forward. I have one final question, ty, Yeah,

1217
01:04:29,480 --> 01:04:36,600
Speaker 1: will you walk me in detail through your school dance history?

1218
01:04:37,360 --> 01:04:40,920
Speaker 1: How you asked who you went with, how don't make

1219
01:04:40,960 --> 01:04:43,080
Speaker 1: me do this? How much you just went for it

1220
01:04:43,120 --> 01:04:46,120
Speaker 1: on the dance floor? Did you spike the punch? Just

1221
01:04:46,480 --> 01:04:49,840
Speaker 1: give me, give me an outline here. I'm not giving

1222
01:04:49,840 --> 01:04:51,040
Speaker 1: because this is junior prom.

1223
01:04:51,040 --> 01:04:52,440
Speaker 2: You're not getting an outline. I didn't go to my

1224
01:04:52,480 --> 01:04:53,920
Speaker 2: junior prom.

1225
01:04:54,160 --> 01:04:55,880
Speaker 1: We didn't have a junior problem. We had dances though,

1226
01:04:55,920 --> 01:04:57,640
Speaker 1: twice a year. So who did you go? You went

1227
01:04:57,680 --> 01:04:59,480
Speaker 1: to your senior problem? Was that the only dance you

1228
01:04:59,520 --> 01:05:03,280
Speaker 1: went to? Yeah?

1229
01:05:03,400 --> 01:05:07,520
Speaker 2: Actually it was Yeah. And on the question about going

1230
01:05:07,560 --> 01:05:10,160
Speaker 2: forward on the dance floor. At the time of my

1231
01:05:10,320 --> 01:05:14,600
Speaker 2: senior prom, Will Smith's Wild Wild West was a big hit,

1232
01:05:15,800 --> 01:05:19,040
Speaker 2: and I took it upon myself.

1233
01:05:19,560 --> 01:05:23,640
Speaker 1: With so what is this the year two thousand two?

1234
01:05:23,800 --> 01:05:27,480
Speaker 2: Yes, the year two thousand yeah, yeah, really went for

1235
01:05:27,560 --> 01:05:28,920
Speaker 2: it during Wild Wild West?

1236
01:05:29,240 --> 01:05:30,080
Speaker 1: And what does that mean?

1237
01:05:30,200 --> 01:05:33,240
Speaker 2: A circle that formed around me as I did a dance?

1238
01:05:34,000 --> 01:05:36,600
Speaker 1: What is this dance? I don't know what it was.

1239
01:05:36,960 --> 01:05:39,320
Speaker 2: It wasn't good whatever it was, but I just really

1240
01:05:39,360 --> 01:05:42,720
Speaker 2: I was into the song and I just I just

1241
01:05:42,760 --> 01:05:46,040
Speaker 2: went for it and the circle formed around me. I'd

1242
01:05:46,080 --> 01:05:48,880
Speaker 2: like to think that was my start as a performer,

1243
01:05:48,920 --> 01:05:53,800
Speaker 2: as you know, that is what we do here, and

1244
01:05:53,840 --> 01:05:55,280
Speaker 2: that was really the lasting memory.

1245
01:05:55,680 --> 01:05:58,040
Speaker 1: Who did you take to prom a friend or like

1246
01:05:58,600 --> 01:06:01,440
Speaker 1: a legitimate date of girlfriend? A friend? No, it was

1247
01:06:01,440 --> 01:06:04,200
Speaker 1: more a friend. Yeah, okay at the time, did you

1248
01:06:04,240 --> 01:06:08,680
Speaker 1: ask in a creative way? No time. No, you didn't

1249
01:06:08,680 --> 01:06:11,800
Speaker 1: even put together like a one ninety two kbps file

1250
01:06:12,200 --> 01:06:14,400
Speaker 1: to somehow include you might you might.

1251
01:06:14,240 --> 01:06:16,040
Speaker 2: Be stunned to learn this, but this was a little

1252
01:06:16,040 --> 01:06:18,919
Speaker 2: bit before the dawn of the MP three era.

1253
01:06:19,080 --> 01:06:22,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, did you have a high school girlfriend at all

1254
01:06:23,280 --> 01:06:24,920
Speaker 1: that you would have taken to a dance had you

1255
01:06:24,960 --> 01:06:27,800
Speaker 1: been together at the time? And there was a name.

1256
01:06:30,520 --> 01:06:33,320
Speaker 1: It's called sort of a loaded question, Dan, I'm ready

1257
01:06:33,360 --> 01:06:34,120
Speaker 1: to hear the answer.

1258
01:06:34,160 --> 01:06:34,280
Speaker 2: Ty.

1259
01:06:34,440 --> 01:06:36,560
Speaker 1: People have been listening to the show for twelve years.

1260
01:06:36,600 --> 01:06:39,600
Speaker 1: They want to feel like they know you. Yeah, no, My.

1261
01:06:39,440 --> 01:06:43,840
Speaker 2: Girlfriend in high school was baseball and playing baseball twenty

1262
01:06:43,880 --> 01:06:47,520
Speaker 2: four to seven, and so no, there there was no

1263
01:06:47,560 --> 01:06:49,640
Speaker 2: special someone my senior year.

1264
01:06:50,800 --> 01:06:53,240
Speaker 1: When you say you went for it on the dance floor,

1265
01:06:53,400 --> 01:06:55,720
Speaker 1: did you do any freaking freaking no?

1266
01:06:55,720 --> 01:06:55,800
Speaker 2: No?

1267
01:06:55,880 --> 01:07:00,000
Speaker 1: Freek yeah no free You didn't do did did your friends? Did? People?

1268
01:07:00,360 --> 01:07:08,720
Speaker 1: Was it was Northampton High School? Freak forward? I remember

1269
01:07:08,760 --> 01:07:10,680
Speaker 1: people going forward in that way? Was it a physical

1270
01:07:10,760 --> 01:07:11,240
Speaker 1: dance floor?

1271
01:07:11,280 --> 01:07:15,080
Speaker 2: I remember it being very tame all these years later,

1272
01:07:15,120 --> 01:07:18,400
Speaker 2: I just I remember it being very tame, nothing exciting.

1273
01:07:19,280 --> 01:07:21,920
Speaker 1: See, we had dances twice a year. I don't think

1274
01:07:21,920 --> 01:07:25,919
Speaker 1: I went my freshman year, but I went the first

1275
01:07:25,960 --> 01:07:28,720
Speaker 1: one my sophomore year. I don't know if I went

1276
01:07:28,760 --> 01:07:30,840
Speaker 1: to the second one. Then I had a girlfriend junior

1277
01:07:30,920 --> 01:07:32,680
Speaker 1: and senior year, so I went to those dances with her.

1278
01:07:32,760 --> 01:07:35,440
Speaker 1: So there wasn't an excitement around asking questions and just

1279
01:07:35,560 --> 01:07:38,200
Speaker 1: trying to figure out creative ways because it was just assumed.

1280
01:07:38,200 --> 01:07:42,200
Speaker 1: I still tried to be this was a pre promposal era. Correct,

1281
01:07:42,240 --> 01:07:45,640
Speaker 1: this is pre promposal era. But I will say Calabasas

1282
01:07:45,720 --> 01:07:51,160
Speaker 1: High turn of the century was very freak forward on

1283
01:07:51,280 --> 01:07:54,680
Speaker 1: the dance floor. People making out, people I don't know,

1284
01:07:54,680 --> 01:07:57,640
Speaker 1: we didn't have much of the pregaming or what was

1285
01:07:57,680 --> 01:08:01,040
Speaker 1: going on. I did it sober, Tie, I went for

1286
01:08:01,160 --> 01:08:04,600
Speaker 1: it sober because you still do to this day. I do,

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Speaker 1: I really do. I drink a little more than I

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Speaker 1: did in high school. But I went for it and

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Speaker 1: it felt great. I don't know if you have the

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Speaker 1: two close music ready, yeah, please, but bring it in line,

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01:08:18,439 --> 01:08:21,599
Speaker 1: bringing in soft here in the background. It's a fine

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Speaker 1: line though, what you push yourself to do because you

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01:08:27,400 --> 01:08:30,040
Speaker 1: don't want to go to freak forward. If you know

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Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Ti, then it can get strange, the

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Speaker 1: little poke coming through. What about now, like weddings? Will

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Speaker 1: you will you go forward on the dance floor? You

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01:08:40,720 --> 01:08:43,200
Speaker 1: you won't freak with your wife on a wedding dance floor?

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Speaker 1: I mean not at this point.

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Speaker 2: No.

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Speaker 1: I try every single way, I get shut down, Tie,

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01:08:51,560 --> 01:08:53,920
Speaker 1: just trying to bring a little excitement, a little sexiness

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Speaker 1: to the dance floor. I'm bummed to hear that. Do

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01:08:57,600 --> 01:08:59,040
Speaker 1: you think if you had if you were to go

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01:08:59,160 --> 01:09:03,880
Speaker 1: back now with your current brain in a high school body, right,

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01:09:04,680 --> 01:09:06,800
Speaker 1: and that's going to a weird territory, But do you

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01:09:06,840 --> 01:09:08,760
Speaker 1: think you would be better about like asking somebody that

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01:09:08,760 --> 01:09:10,120
Speaker 1: you would want to go to the lead to it

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01:09:10,280 --> 01:09:14,720
Speaker 1: benefit of Yeah, twenty years. I don't know, I see,

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Speaker 1: I don't know, okay, man, oh man, I would. I

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01:09:23,439 --> 01:09:25,800
Speaker 1: wore a lot of gel in my hair. I did

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01:09:26,040 --> 01:09:30,599
Speaker 1: regis like tie matching the shirt thing, silver shirt, silver tie.

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01:09:30,720 --> 01:09:32,200
Speaker 1: Remember the who wants to do a millionaire?

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Speaker 2: Luck?

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Speaker 1: Totally went for that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I sort of didn't know what to do with

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01:09:37,200 --> 01:09:39,680
Speaker 2: my hair. It actually looked a lot then like it

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01:09:39,720 --> 01:09:40,240
Speaker 2: does now.

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Speaker 1: Did you do a like a post prom? Did everybody

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01:09:44,760 --> 01:09:47,400
Speaker 1: go to a hotel to get trashed? Was that a

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Speaker 1: thing at Northampton?

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01:09:49,640 --> 01:09:51,960
Speaker 2: There was a friend's house that a lot of folks

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Speaker 2: went to to get trashed.

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Speaker 1: I did not. We had a hotel, I think because

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01:09:56,960 --> 01:09:59,760
Speaker 1: parents were worried about drunk driving, so everybody just sort

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01:09:59,760 --> 01:10:04,160
Speaker 1: of had hotel rooms, which in retrospect, wow, very very

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01:10:04,160 --> 01:10:07,519
Speaker 1: out there. Forward yeah, free forward. But did you so

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01:10:07,600 --> 01:10:09,880
Speaker 1: did you go to that post prom party? We're putting

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01:10:09,920 --> 01:10:17,519
Speaker 1: a drinking nop And I went to the hotel where

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01:10:17,560 --> 01:10:21,320
Speaker 1: like maybe three quarters of our class was. And boy

1330
01:10:21,360 --> 01:10:23,439
Speaker 1: do you learn a lot about people when they no

1331
01:10:23,479 --> 01:10:27,439
Speaker 1: longer have to go to school with you whole just

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01:10:27,520 --> 01:10:33,760
Speaker 1: people roaming the hallways, just obliterated seventeen year olds obliterated

1333
01:10:33,960 --> 01:10:36,559
Speaker 1: and doing things. So you're like, I'm sorry you got

1334
01:10:36,560 --> 01:10:40,559
Speaker 1: an A in calculus and this is how Oh my god,

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01:10:41,240 --> 01:10:44,639
Speaker 1: it was great. Ty. I can still vividly see that night,

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01:10:44,720 --> 01:10:46,640
Speaker 1: and I'm sorry you didn't get to experience I have

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01:10:46,720 --> 01:10:51,400
Speaker 1: read here. Man, Ty, I could tell you. We will

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01:10:51,800 --> 01:10:54,240
Speaker 1: as soon as we disconnect, I will tell you stories.

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Speaker 2: Okay, all right, Well, thank you to everyone out there

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01:11:01,720 --> 01:11:05,160
Speaker 2: for downloading, and if you've made it this far, congratulations,

1341
01:11:05,200 --> 01:11:08,599
Speaker 2: thank you. Yeah once more for your support of the show.

1342
01:11:09,240 --> 01:11:10,679
Speaker 2: And tell us your prom stories.

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01:11:10,800 --> 01:11:13,760
Speaker 1: Tell us your stories. Yeah, people, you know, and it's

1344
01:11:13,880 --> 01:11:15,720
Speaker 1: it can be private. You can just DM us on

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01:11:16,040 --> 01:11:18,800
Speaker 1: Instagram or you can send us an email. I want

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01:11:18,800 --> 01:11:23,680
Speaker 1: to hear good, you know, crazy, embarrassing junior prom, senior prom,

1347
01:11:23,720 --> 01:11:26,759
Speaker 1: post prom, lay it all on the line, it's all.

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Speaker 1: It's all private.

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Speaker 2: I'll see if I can get a prom photo from

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Speaker 2: mom age.

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01:11:31,439 --> 01:11:33,240
Speaker 1: I'll send you my prom file. We can both post

1352
01:11:33,240 --> 01:11:36,280
Speaker 1: our prom photos. I'm finding that Instagram dot com slash

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01:11:36,280 --> 01:11:38,280
Speaker 1: solid verbal. How about how's that sound.

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01:11:38,240 --> 01:11:41,800
Speaker 2: Instagram dot com slash solid verbal. Don't forget, We've also

1355
01:11:41,840 --> 01:11:45,880
Speaker 2: got a Twitter. We've also got a Facebook, and sign

1356
01:11:45,960 --> 01:11:48,000
Speaker 2: up for that newsletter at Soliverbal dot com. You can

1357
01:11:48,080 --> 01:11:50,280
Speaker 2: find the sign up form right under the main area,

1358
01:11:50,360 --> 01:11:52,479
Speaker 2: big old yellow form. We won't spam you, but we

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01:11:52,520 --> 01:11:55,160
Speaker 2: are going to be sending one out tomorrow and in

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01:11:55,680 --> 01:11:58,679
Speaker 2: subsequent weeks talking about some of the cool and exciting

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01:11:58,680 --> 01:12:02,080
Speaker 2: things we have in the pipeline. Freaked down, good forward,

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01:12:02,840 --> 01:12:06,280
Speaker 2: I'm great for that guy over there, my good friend

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01:12:06,400 --> 01:12:09,200
Speaker 2: Dan Rubinstein, bore myself, tie Hildo Brand.

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Speaker 1: We will catch you all, yeah, two days from now.

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Speaker 1: In the meantime, stay solid, peace,