Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning.
Speaker 2: The breakfast Club Morning, everybody.
Speaker 3: Is d J n V just hilarious, Charlamage, the God
Speaker 3: we all the breakfast Club. La La Rosa is here
Speaker 3: with us, and we got some special guests in the
Speaker 3: building this morning.
Speaker 4: The host of the new show Friday Night Vibes on
Speaker 4: TV as on a new host Friday Night Vibes on TVs.
Speaker 2: Dina Palker Kevin on stage.
Speaker 4: I walked that up because you know, keV didn't talk
Speaker 4: about that last time he was here. And I saw
Speaker 4: Nina and Cans and Nina was like. Nina was like,
Speaker 4: I don't know why he was up there and did
Speaker 4: not mention that we're in a new home.
Speaker 5: Friday Night may be having tunnel vision, so you got
Speaker 5: all these other projects he was. I watched the interview
Speaker 5: and I was so excited, like, I can't wait till
Speaker 5: he mentions Friday Night VIOX because we were in the
Speaker 5: middle of filming Friday Night.
Speaker 1: About it Man, Friday Night Friday Night Vines.
Speaker 5: And I had just did Taron Hall. I was like, Keith,
Speaker 5: I mentioned you and shouted you out and showed your
Speaker 5: picture on the.
Speaker 1: I'm being ghastling, I said. At first so it means
Speaker 1: it's true.
Speaker 2: Maybe that's just not who you are. Because you know,
Speaker 2: one of your best friends was up here right just like.
Speaker 3: Just right here, and when we told him that you
Speaker 3: were coming, he was like, he didn't even tell me
Speaker 3: he was here.
Speaker 2: In New York. He was like, we were playing pool
Speaker 2: and friendship.
Speaker 5: We saw Tony just in the ground.
Speaker 2: And I was like, what are you doing?
Speaker 1: Tony didn't tell me he was doing the breakfast club.
Speaker 5: But men don't share details like that. Like if it
Speaker 5: would have been me and my homegirl, we would have
Speaker 5: been like at the hotel having breakfast before we came over.
Speaker 5: I feel like, y'all just see each other when you see.
Speaker 2: Tony had a show in New York.
Speaker 1: I didn't know that I got tickets to a show, surprising.
Speaker 6: I was gonna pull up.
Speaker 7: Ticket, always buy my tickets. I don't even play that.
Speaker 7: I'm not trying to hear it. Don't hear me because
Speaker 7: people you ain't even cool with, like what's up on
Speaker 7: the ticket? Kevio states dot com.
Speaker 1: It's what I'm talking of them. My parents buy tickets
Speaker 1: to my show. I want to support, but.
Speaker 5: Then they want you to give up the ticket.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that ain't support.
Speaker 2: Parents buy tickets to your shop.
Speaker 7: Parents refuse to get free tickets. They're like, I believe
Speaker 7: in you and what you're doing. I'll go get tickets.
Speaker 6: They want to make sure they got loan you no
Speaker 6: money ever again.
Speaker 1: No, well yes exactly like you keep doing good. So
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I need you to make it.
Speaker 4: You know they're not just testing you just to see
Speaker 4: if you're gonna say no, no, no, you'll have done enough.
Speaker 1: I got you.
Speaker 7: No, they buy them, they support for the next show.
Speaker 2: My friends, I don't mind.
Speaker 7: It's people I don't know. We ain't got a relationship.
Speaker 7: You trying to get the free tickets. Manna, okay, it's
Speaker 7: like a hookup. When I work in Popeye's, I get
Speaker 7: my friends a hookup. Not everybody, some of the biscuits.
Speaker 7: If you see the price, that's true. How did this
Speaker 7: come together?
Speaker 5: You know what's crazy? We actually chem tested together. Kevin
Speaker 5: and I knew each other only on social media, like
Speaker 5: I was a fan of his work, but we had
Speaker 5: never met, so we would you know, exchange on social
Speaker 5: media and then you know the show used to be
Speaker 5: hosted by Tiffany Hattish and Dione Cole. They were revamping
Speaker 5: it and so they did like a big casting call.
Speaker 5: So when we got called, and sometimes when you get
Speaker 5: to a certain level, you're like, oh, I still got
Speaker 5: a kym test. I was like, So we did the
Speaker 5: kym test and it was it was actually like a
Speaker 5: family reunion. It was about twenty about what, fifteen women,
Speaker 5: fifteen men, Yeah, and we were kim testing with our friends.
Speaker 5: So it was like a big day. We got in trouble.
Speaker 1: It took all day long.
Speaker 7: Yeah, it was like you you spend five minutes with
Speaker 7: this person and okay, y'all done and this person and
Speaker 7: when Nina and I went, it was like this sounds cliche,
Speaker 7: but I was like, I forgot we were even auditioning.
Speaker 1: We were just chopping it up and they stopped us.
Speaker 1: We were like, okay, cool.
Speaker 5: I was like this, we got this. Like there's sometimes
Speaker 5: I feel like you get that little voice you know
Speaker 5: when you're when you're in this industry, you just know
Speaker 5: when something is magic. And we were sitting next to
Speaker 5: each other and it was so easy with him. And
Speaker 5: I've had a lot of co hosts over the years,
Speaker 5: and keV is by far like the easiest person I've
Speaker 5: ever worked with.
Speaker 1: Oh, that's an ultimate compliment.
Speaker 5: By the way, it's not it's not to him, it's
Speaker 5: to his wife, Mulissa, right, because his wife is he
Speaker 5: knows how to there is a there's a dance, as
Speaker 5: you guys know. And then when you have like a
Speaker 5: co host who knows how to communicate in a healthy
Speaker 5: way with a woman, it's just like even like he'll
Speaker 5: be like you need to sit. I'm like what because
Speaker 5: I'm used to people being like, get off the way,
Speaker 5: and it's just he's very kind. So it just makes
Speaker 5: it so easy to work with.
Speaker 1: Nina Ahead, I tell you that all the time.
Speaker 4: When somebody says you're easy to work with, that's beautiful.
Speaker 4: When somebody says you're a pleasure to work with, you
Speaker 4: always work, yeah, because.
Speaker 1: It's the work is hard.
Speaker 7: So talent is evenly distributed, you know in La New York,
Speaker 7: but good people to work with is not so much.
Speaker 7: And then it's already stressful. You got early call times
Speaker 7: and all that stuff. If you're also a jerk on
Speaker 7: top of that, it's like, bro, I don't even want
Speaker 7: to do it.
Speaker 5: It's life be lifing, as you know. So it's like
Speaker 5: it's hard to get on it and have to like
Speaker 5: turn all of that off, you know, in filming. So
Speaker 5: when you have somebody that's like keV is really like
Speaker 5: my real life brother, you know, I really love him.
Speaker 5: I love his wife, like we have dinners. Like it's
Speaker 5: so it's just it doesn't it truly doesn't feel like work.
Speaker 5: So we just be cutting up and you know, this
Speaker 5: show really allowed me to be funny and like really
Speaker 5: tap into cause I feel like I've done so much
Speaker 5: formal journalism. This was like a different This was more vulnerable,
Speaker 5: and keV is more of my coach sometimes where he's
Speaker 5: like just say it, Like no, you know, cause I'm
Speaker 5: so trained that sometimes it's a little bit more stiff,
Speaker 5: so he's like, just say it. They ain't gonna care.
Speaker 7: Yeah, And Needa helped me too because I had never
Speaker 7: done official TV, never worked off a prompter before. So
Speaker 7: the first day I was like, dang, man, like there's
Speaker 7: a lot of pressure and you can't really mess up.
Speaker 7: It's time for you to do your job right. And
Speaker 7: he was like, oh, it's all good. There's all You're
Speaker 7: doing this. Run through it once and Nina, man, let
Speaker 7: me tell you what she big sis for real because
Speaker 7: I don't want to do stuff. She'd be like, ah,
Speaker 7: we ain't doing that, y'all. We are doing this. Like
Speaker 7: you can tell she's been in the game for a
Speaker 7: long time, never rude or anything like that, but she
Speaker 7: she knows how to assert herself and people respect her
Speaker 7: for that. And I'm more of like, I never done this,
Speaker 7: so whatever y'all say is cool.
Speaker 5: But also when you've done it a long time, you
Speaker 5: know when people are padding time, like you're like, we
Speaker 5: don't need we we got this. We can just roll
Speaker 5: through this, like y'all ain't got a babys Like we're
Speaker 5: gonna come in, we're gonna knock this out, and we're
Speaker 5: gonna go home. Everybody gonna get home on time. Y'all
Speaker 5: got pill over time stop.
Speaker 4: Is it hard for you, keV being on a production
Speaker 4: that you don't control.
Speaker 7: No, low key, Actually it's free, because, oh my god,
Speaker 7: there's a certain amount of stress when you control it,
Speaker 7: Like the talent is just one aspect. Then you gotta
Speaker 7: worry about the budget and the controlling, the editing, the delivery.
Speaker 7: Friday night vibes, brother. When it's over all right, y'all,
Speaker 7: and it's it is, It is a welcome reprieve from
Speaker 7: having a due. I don't want to have to worry
Speaker 7: about post edit deliveries, time code you know s and
Speaker 7: p leave it at the door coffee.
Speaker 1: Yes, what time is lunch? Okay?
Speaker 7: Perfect, see y'all tomorrow. I just come on time, do
Speaker 7: my job. Chopping up with Nina, I knew he was cool.
Speaker 7: Need to let me she was getting braided down, like
Speaker 7: y'all friends, man, you let me see the The breakdown
Speaker 7: is intimate anybody. No, That's why I think that camaraderie
Speaker 7: and chemistry from the audition through the show, it just
Speaker 7: carries on throughout. And then that's why the show feels
Speaker 7: so natural. Our guests come on, they feel really natural
Speaker 7: with us, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: So, and it doubled the ratings. So we did the
Speaker 5: first season, we only had like twelve episodes, so it
Speaker 5: was just the first Friday of every month, which right now,
Speaker 5: you know, TV is very difficult. They actually doubled our
Speaker 5: episode order because they were saying that our interviews with
Speaker 5: each other and with our guests were spiking over the movies. Yeah,
Speaker 5: so I mean listening to get a double order during
Speaker 5: this time, we feel very blessed.
Speaker 8: I was going to ask you, Nina, because for us
Speaker 8: in the journalism where you talk about broking and hard journalism,
Speaker 8: I know you come from TMZ. Your career and how
Speaker 8: you've been able to diversify your resume. We all watch
Speaker 8: it like how because it is hard when you're such
Speaker 8: a journalist to do things where they allow you to
Speaker 8: show your personality. What was your first lesson in like
Speaker 8: I even want to try to diversify.
Speaker 5: Well, my first lesson was I got fired. And you know,
Speaker 5: as you know, it's like.
Speaker 1: You got fired from TMG.
Speaker 5: Well I got fired my first week from TMZ.
Speaker 1: I didn't know it.
Speaker 5: So my first.
Speaker 6: I'm gonna let her talk her story.
Speaker 5: So the first time I got fired was my first
Speaker 5: week in TMZ. I had just moved to LA and
Speaker 5: I was not even a PA yet. I was a runner.
Speaker 5: I didn't know anybody in LA. I literally got the
Speaker 5: job by emailing contacts they used to have like a
Speaker 5: contact TMZ, and I just emailed and was like, I
Speaker 5: got a degree, can I like you know? And they
Speaker 5: were like, you've been out the game for a little bit,
Speaker 5: because I had stopped working in journalism and so they
Speaker 5: were like we'll make you a runner. You can get
Speaker 5: the lunches. But this was before GPS, so I had
Speaker 5: like a Thomas Guide.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, yeah, I'm aging.
Speaker 5: Myself, but I was. I got lost. La is very
Speaker 5: difficult to navigate. You like, why is there too?
Speaker 7: Sam?
Speaker 5: So I got lost, So Paris Hilton got arrested and
Speaker 5: I had to go get the tape from the paparazzi
Speaker 5: of her coming out of CNN for her first interview
Speaker 5: with Larry King.
Speaker 6: Oh my heart just dropped for you. Yeah, I got
Speaker 6: lost with that tape.
Speaker 5: And I got lost, and if you know, CNN was
Speaker 5: on sunset, and I took Highland to get back to
Speaker 5: the valley, and Harvey was.
Speaker 2: Like, why would you take Hiland and not Kawanga? What's
Speaker 2: wrong with you?
Speaker 5: Your fire in front of everybody?
Speaker 2: Choice.
Speaker 6: Do you understand how that is?
Speaker 5: It's very different, and you know, like this is before
Speaker 5: you could transfer digitally. You had to have the tape.
Speaker 5: So I cost them like fifteen twenty minutes and they
Speaker 5: wanted it up first. So he fired me in front
Speaker 5: of the whole newsroom and I went to the bathroom.
Speaker 5: I had only been in La like three months. I
Speaker 5: went to the bathroom and I was crying, like ego
Speaker 5: kicked in. It was like at this place, go somewhere else.
Speaker 5: You don't need this place. And there was this really
Speaker 5: quiet voice with that was like, just go apologize. And
Speaker 5: I went to my managing editor and Harvey was in
Speaker 5: his office. I went to the managing editor and I
Speaker 5: had been staying late every day and I would just
Speaker 5: ask her she needed anything, so if she needed her
Speaker 5: trash taken out, whatever, I would just stay late for hours,
Speaker 5: just helping her, not getting paid. And I said, hey,
Speaker 5: you know, I'm really sorry if I and work with
Speaker 5: you in the fure. She was like, what are you
Speaker 5: talking about? And I said, Harvey just fired me. And
Speaker 5: she goes girls sit down and she went in his
Speaker 5: office and yelled at him, and I heard him say
Speaker 5: will you take her? And she came back out and
Speaker 5: offered me a year contract and was like, do you
Speaker 5: want to be my writing pa?
Speaker 2: Wow?
Speaker 5: And then that was in June of two thousand and seven.
Speaker 5: The show started in September of two thousand and seven,
Speaker 5: and by then he had heard me just talking. I
Speaker 5: would do my stories and talk out loud, and he
Speaker 5: thought I was funny, and he was like I want
Speaker 5: you to pitch for the show, and I was like, no,
Speaker 5: I just want to write. He was like, I'm not
Speaker 5: asking you. You're gonna get on the show. And that's
Speaker 5: really how it started. That was the first time I
Speaker 5: got fired, and I was just like, I'm gonna just
Speaker 5: go for it. And I just was like, I'm not
Speaker 5: going to allow like one person to have the keys
Speaker 5: to like drive my car. Like I got to have
Speaker 5: these options open, and I have to like eat my
Speaker 5: ego a little bit. And I think our ego gets
Speaker 5: us in a lot of trouble in this industry. There's
Speaker 5: a lot of misunderstandings that happened that you take it
Speaker 5: the wrong way. And I just learned to like drop
Speaker 5: that and it's helped me.
Speaker 1: Well, we got you fired, for real.
Speaker 5: I didn't. I was fired from CBS. Okay, they didn't
Speaker 5: renew my contract. So the contract, well you're just kind
Speaker 5: of fire, you know. You're like, it's like we don't
Speaker 5: we're not having you back. I had like a two
Speaker 5: year contract and I had it was the most money
Speaker 5: I had ever made. Because now I'm an official course
Speaker 5: spind and I'm doing the red carpets and I made
Speaker 5: all this money and I blew it. I was buying bags.
Speaker 5: I remember I went on my first check and bought
Speaker 5: a Gucci and Louis Vuitton bag, both just both because
Speaker 5: I have been I was making four to fifty a
Speaker 5: week at TMZO before taxes, so I wasn't making any money.
Speaker 5: So when I was getting the CBS money, I lost
Speaker 5: my damn mind. And I had no I had bad credit.
Speaker 5: I had no financial literacy at all. It had to
Speaker 5: be And so when I lost the job, I was
Speaker 5: broke because I had I was, you know, even though
Speaker 5: I had money, I was spending every check. I was
Speaker 5: you know, I was at the at the brunches, spending
Speaker 5: money like a drug dealer. I was just like, come on,
Speaker 5: let's let's get the bottles, you know. And just and
Speaker 5: what I realized was, I thought to myself, I had
Speaker 5: to downsize everything. I got a car accident, I lost
Speaker 5: my car, so I had to get a used car
Speaker 5: with the red light always on. And I had to
Speaker 5: get into a smaller apartment that was like a little
Speaker 5: bit more, you know, in a bad neighborhood. And I
Speaker 5: told myself, I was like, when I get my next thing,
Speaker 5: because I knew it was going to come. I educated
Speaker 5: myself on how to get good credit. I fixed my credit,
Speaker 5: I figured out what I needed to save. I was like,
Speaker 5: I need multiple income. I was talking to Kevin Fraser
Speaker 5: who was at CBS, and he was kind of telling me, like,
Speaker 5: you acting crazy. You know. I talked call him my
Speaker 5: toxic mentor because he would give me advice, but it
Speaker 5: was always like really harsh. And I was like, the
Speaker 5: next time, I get it, and I got love and
Speaker 5: hip hop reunions and I just started saving everything. I
Speaker 5: started living under my means. So I was like, let
Speaker 5: me build this so that, like I can have two
Speaker 5: years of income so that with the next time, I'm
Speaker 5: not going to let this network decide like whether I
Speaker 5: eat or not.
Speaker 6: Do you when you left? To go back a little bit,
Speaker 6: when you left TMZ, were you seen your news producer?
Speaker 5: Were you when I left TMC, I did not have
Speaker 5: a job. I quit because they did not want to
Speaker 5: pay me.
Speaker 6: Okay, because there's always been a conversation. I don't know.
Speaker 6: I was told this before I went there.
Speaker 8: Okay, so not even just internally, but just in the
Speaker 8: journalism world, that you had been offered news director or
Speaker 8: something like that. But they didn't want to, like they
Speaker 8: didn't you thought you should have news director, but they
Speaker 8: didn't want to give it to you.
Speaker 5: It was a news director. But what actually happened, I've
Speaker 5: never told anybody this. I accidentally got my coworker's check
Speaker 5: and we were sitting next to you. You know, TMZ would
Speaker 5: have the desks where there wasn't a divider, and they
Speaker 5: said his check next to me, and I was just
Speaker 5: opening it blindly. And he was making six figures. I
Speaker 5: was not. I was making well under that. And I
Speaker 5: have been there and I was contributing. I was breaking stories.
Speaker 5: I was a part of Michael Jackson's death being broken.
Speaker 5: I was a part of major store is Bernie mc dyan.
Speaker 5: I was the managing editor on weekends, so it was
Speaker 5: just me and Harvey in that office and a PA.
Speaker 5: I was in there working. I only had Wednesdays off.
Speaker 5: I gave up my weekends for three years and I
Speaker 5: was like, I put in work. I was it was
Speaker 5: my life. I didn't have a boyfriend, I didn't have friends.
Speaker 5: I wasn't going to the club, and I felt like
Speaker 5: I was old this money. I think I was maybe
Speaker 5: making like fifty k Jesus and I just wanted what
Speaker 5: he was making.
Speaker 2: He was a white male, yes he.
Speaker 5: Was, and they were like no. And I was on
Speaker 5: every show and I was just like, y'all not gonna
Speaker 5: pay me. And we went into a little negotiation and
Speaker 5: I think maybe they offered me like ten more percent.
Speaker 5: I did not have another job. I did not have
Speaker 5: an agent, and I was like, I quit. I didn't
Speaker 5: have nothing, but I knew people liked me. And I
Speaker 5: reached out to a woman who used to be at
Speaker 5: Telepictures and she had just got an SBP job at CBS,
Speaker 5: and I was like. She was like, hey, we have
Speaker 5: the Insider once you come test for the Insider, and
Speaker 5: so I went tested for that and I got the Insider.
Speaker 5: But I didn't have anything when I left TMC, I
Speaker 5: didn't know what I was going to do. And a
Speaker 5: good thing about being young is because I was still
Speaker 5: in my twenties at the time, you little crazy. So
Speaker 5: you know, had I been this age, I might have
Speaker 5: been like, let me just figure something out. But now
Speaker 5: you know, I got bills and big bills. But back
Speaker 5: then I was like, it ain't nothing for me to
Speaker 5: pack up the studio apartment. I get on that couch,
Speaker 5: that area was like you ain't trap men, And it
Speaker 5: was the best decision I could have made. I mean,
Speaker 5: I left really at the Pinnacle van had just started,
Speaker 5: like it was really a good time to be there,
Speaker 5: and everybody told me not to quit. Everybody like socially
Speaker 5: TMC was really hot and like, cause this is the
Speaker 5: Paris Hilton Britney Spears era, So people were like, you're
Speaker 5: crazy to leave, but I was just like, this is
Speaker 5: not serving me. And they not only that, Like this
Speaker 5: was before paid disparity was really a thing, so it
Speaker 5: was just accepted that the women take less. And I
Speaker 5: was like, I work harder than all these people up
Speaker 5: in here, and I'm a black woman. And I mean
Speaker 5: when you guys started the Breakfast Club, that's how we met.
Speaker 5: We started emailing, like dude, was like I got this
Speaker 5: new show. I was like, we're gonna put you on
Speaker 5: the show. And I made a lot of contacts because
Speaker 5: I would reach out to black media and be like,
Speaker 5: get on our bloc row, let me send you the
Speaker 5: breaking news. Like I really cultivated. I still have all
Speaker 5: those relationships because I really was like I can't prevent
Speaker 5: them from putting this story out about black people. But
Speaker 5: I can at least give our side and if you
Speaker 5: call me, I'm gonna give your side out there because
Speaker 5: they didn't care. They would just put it up. And
Speaker 5: so that was really for me, like my time. So
Speaker 5: I was like, you're not gonna pay me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, when you think about it, there wasn't. There hasn't
Speaker 1: been too many faces of TMZ, right of course, Harvey.
Speaker 1: But then when I think about it, maybe I don't know,
Speaker 1: maybe because I'm.
Speaker 4: Black, Yeah, and that's historically toxic though was it toxic
Speaker 4: working there?
Speaker 6: Indeed?
Speaker 5: What I mean, listen, this is I've heard it's not
Speaker 5: like that anymore. I don't know. Uh, And this is
Speaker 5: this is one of the reasons you and I haven't
Speaker 5: talked because I checked out of all things TMZ, I
Speaker 5: never watched the show again. When I stopped like, I didn't,
Speaker 5: I stopped community. I didn't even I'm not communing with
Speaker 5: people I knew, but anything like, I just kind of
Speaker 5: shut that part of my brain off because I had
Speaker 5: a lot of PTSD and it was you have to
Speaker 5: think about it. This was like the birth of new
Speaker 5: age media. There were no rules, so we would work
Speaker 5: like fourteen hours a day. You would get in trouble
Speaker 5: for taking a lunch. You couldn't leave, like your desk.
Speaker 5: You had to answer your phone at four in the morning.
Speaker 5: It was you would work weekends and you couldn't say no.
Speaker 5: We would rock. People would walk around with their laptop.
Speaker 5: We would go to a concert. You have to have
Speaker 5: your laptop in your back because if you got a
Speaker 5: call it for you didn't answer, you would get fired
Speaker 5: for it was over for you. So and I made
Speaker 5: the decision to participate in that because I didn't have anybody.
Speaker 5: I didn't have anything else. I didn't have a team.
Speaker 5: We were kind of deterred from getting a team, like
Speaker 5: you know, so the things I know now.
Speaker 6: This is this is I got.
Speaker 5: There was no HR.
Speaker 8: No HR was very new, and there was the union.
Speaker 6: Things that come in when you have in your protection.
Speaker 5: They got rid that didn't exist back then. Like they
Speaker 5: had Telepictures that was the parent company that technically you
Speaker 5: could go, but you didn't know anybody there because they
Speaker 5: weren't You only knew who was in the building. So
Speaker 5: it was it was really the wild West. And I
Speaker 5: probably I mean when Michael Jackson died, I didn't leave
Speaker 5: the office for three days, like we slept there.
Speaker 2: And that was your salary of fifty thousand dollars or less.
Speaker 5: What I mean, I think I was still making like
Speaker 5: the PA salary thing, which was I think I had
Speaker 5: got boosted to like six fifty a week.
Speaker 3: Crazy thing is when Lauren started working here. You ever
Speaker 3: see that dog that they I'm not comparing you to
Speaker 3: a dog, but that dog that when you get out
Speaker 3: the shelter right and you put your hand up to
Speaker 3: pettit and the skin.
Speaker 2: That's how Lauren was working.
Speaker 3: Lauren was like, wait a minute, you guys just said
Speaker 3: good job like it was. I'm like, what I thought
Speaker 3: she was joking? Then I realized, no, she was traumatized.
Speaker 1: How were you there?
Speaker 6: How was that TMC? For eight years?
Speaker 8: And when you come in you hear well from the
Speaker 8: black people there, you hear so much about you. Van
Speaker 8: was always really big about, you know, talking to me
Speaker 8: about you. He was there when I was, when I
Speaker 8: was there, so was Raquel. And then they left, and
Speaker 8: when they left it was me and I was.
Speaker 5: Like, what, at least you had the camaraderie.
Speaker 8: But then they left right, and then George Floyd and
Speaker 8: Aubrey happened and it was like oh.
Speaker 5: And you're fighting by yourself because there's a lot of
Speaker 5: micro aggressions. There's macro too, And one of the things
Speaker 5: that was hard for me was like, at the time,
Speaker 5: and this was before Van even got there, I was
Speaker 5: the only black person on camera, and so you are yes, yes,
Speaker 5: the story is, she tell me, and you feel an obligation,
Speaker 5: but sometimes you're tired. Right, But the thing is with
Speaker 5: black talent, especially, you don't have the luxury of being
Speaker 5: silent when it's a black issue, because they're gonna look
Speaker 5: at you in this room full of white people and
Speaker 5: wonder why you just say anything. They're not going to
Speaker 5: think about Like I've been doing this every single day.
Speaker 5: I got a migraine. I'm tired, Like I'm tired of arguing.
Speaker 5: I know their race baiting me. There, they bait you
Speaker 5: on purpose. But at the same time, I'm like, I
Speaker 5: got to think about the people who are watching that
Speaker 5: look like me, that are like, you know, why didn't
Speaker 5: you speak up? But you know, you know, as you age,
Speaker 5: fighting every day gets exhausting. And also when you're getting
Speaker 5: baited because it's like I don't mind having a healthy discussion,
Speaker 5: but you're purposely trying to bait me to have this
Speaker 5: conversation so you can have content, and I'm not really
Speaker 5: with that, And so you get tired of being used.
Speaker 5: You get tired of like women being talked about. You know,
Speaker 5: you feel like I'm in this space. When I was there,
Speaker 5: it was very toxic, like we would get they had
Speaker 5: a relationship with Vivid because you know Kim Kardashian sex tape,
Speaker 5: and they Vivid would send like sex tapes in and
Speaker 5: sometimes people would just watch him in the office, you know,
Speaker 5: and it was like you were like, what am I
Speaker 5: What's going on? But then also you're like, well, what
Speaker 5: are my other options? And that's when you start to
Speaker 5: build these relationships. So you're like, I got to make
Speaker 5: an exit plan.
Speaker 8: I had a I just wanna say this real quick,
Speaker 8: and then we can move away from TIMC because you
Speaker 8: have moved away.
Speaker 1: But I met.
Speaker 7: About this.
Speaker 8: I met you a long time ago in LA and
Speaker 8: our interaction you weren't rude, but it just wasn't the best.
Speaker 8: And one I was about to leave, Ban was like,
Speaker 8: you should call me, and I was like, I don't
Speaker 8: think she cares for me that much, and he was
Speaker 8: and I was like, well, and I told him, But
Speaker 8: now here in your I don't know if you even
Speaker 8: knew who I was, but if so, I'm thinking like
Speaker 8: maybe that I had nothing to do with that. But
Speaker 8: I never thought about this because when you're in that environment,
Speaker 8: you think it's regular, you think it's okay. I never
Speaker 8: thought about, like what your post life felt like mentally
Speaker 8: having to go through and deal with all of that.
Speaker 2: I think that I got to you telling the world
Speaker 2: that Nina was no.
Speaker 1: I said.
Speaker 8: You know, the reason why I want to say that
Speaker 8: is because now I'm sitting here and I felt your
Speaker 8: emotion just now when you're talking about your experience, and
Speaker 8: I identify with it so much, and it made me
Speaker 8: think about if I were to run into someone right
Speaker 8: in that same predicament unknowingly, I might not like, you know, do.
Speaker 5: You know what I'm trying to Well, you're reacting to
Speaker 5: the place, not the person, yes, And so you you know,
Speaker 5: it's like if someone brings up a relationship that hurts you,
Speaker 5: you're kind of like, especially if you're not in the
Speaker 5: space to like say, you're not thinking about it, and
Speaker 5: it jars you for a second where you're just like
Speaker 5: And also, I'm very media trained, right, so sometimes I
Speaker 5: don't want to speak bad on a place, and I
Speaker 5: don't know if my experience will be your experience. So
Speaker 5: there's a lot I can't say to you without saying
Speaker 5: it right where I can. It's like, how do I
Speaker 5: tell this person there in the in the trenches and
Speaker 5: like get out quickly, yes, because that may not be
Speaker 5: your journey. So how do I say that to you?
Speaker 5: Because it's so nuanced. So it's just such a layered thing.
Speaker 5: So sometimes if like people come up and be like
Speaker 5: I'm at TMZ, I'm kind of like and I'm like, yeah, don't.
Speaker 5: I don't know what to tell you, because this is
Speaker 5: it's only something you understand if you've been there. It's
Speaker 5: like being in a sorority. But at the same time,
Speaker 5: and I think I've just healed from being there probably
Speaker 5: within the last like four years, four or five years.
Speaker 5: You I have this thing now where I'm my friends
Speaker 5: say I'm the fastest responder because you had to be
Speaker 5: this thing, right I always Even now I'm not really
Speaker 5: in news anymore, like I'm a host for shows, and
Speaker 5: even now I feel like I got to look at
Speaker 5: these headlines, I'm like, what am I doing? I am
Speaker 5: posting about no news. I'm the first to post a
Speaker 5: tweet about it, like what am I? So you have
Speaker 5: these things. So I don't remember the the the interaction,
Speaker 5: but I'll say that it was so traumatizing that sometimes
Speaker 5: it was hard to react positively about about it. And also,
Speaker 5: you know, as you grow, you learn how to temper
Speaker 5: that a little bit better. But I think probably when
Speaker 5: we met, I hadn't really quite learned how it.
Speaker 8: Wasn't nothing crazy, but I just I felt shock. I
Speaker 8: just didn't I didn't sh Yeah, I didn't understand what
Speaker 8: I felt until this moment I was.
Speaker 5: Dealing with.
Speaker 8: But I didn't know because when when we hear about
Speaker 8: your journey, then we just hear, well, I've.
Speaker 5: Never talked about this is the first time. I think
Speaker 5: you always said things positively because ultimately it was a
Speaker 5: positive experience because I have never learned. You learn kind
Speaker 5: of when you're in that because it's like the army.
Speaker 6: But I tell people it was the best boot camp
Speaker 6: I've ever been.
Speaker 5: To, the best book camp you'll never And one thing
Speaker 5: I will say about Harvey is he to this day
Speaker 5: probably the hardest work ethic of anyone I have ever
Speaker 5: known in the industry. But you you get a lot
Speaker 5: of trauma from it, and it's very difficult to express
Speaker 5: if you haven't been there. And then also it's like,
Speaker 5: I don't want to make that my story. So you know,
Speaker 5: when I'm meeting somebody and we in a social setting,
Speaker 5: it's like it's it's still now. Some people say, oh,
Speaker 5: I know you from TMZ, and I cringe a little bit,
Speaker 5: not because I'm a aimed of it, but I've done
Speaker 5: so much, but it's still something that's always associated with
Speaker 5: you and will always be, as you will know it
Speaker 5: will always be, and there's going to be a time
Speaker 5: where you just don't want to hear about it because
Speaker 5: you've accomplished so much more. And so it's a little
Speaker 5: triggering when someone comes up to you and wants to
Speaker 5: talk about it and you're just like bringing up an
Speaker 5: X that you don't do it anymore.
Speaker 1: Because what you really wanted to say to her fabbly
Speaker 1: was good luck.
Speaker 5: Yeah, what am I supposed to say if you're in it? Yeah?
Speaker 6: I mean I needed the money, but I forget what
Speaker 6: was going on at the time.
Speaker 8: But I think this was one of the times where
Speaker 8: I've been wanted to quit and I just didn't. People
Speaker 8: think you're crazy, we can say that, And I was like, oh, Nina,
Speaker 8: I could talk to her.
Speaker 5: And then I wish we would have been introduced through
Speaker 5: VAN because there I would have loved to have talked
Speaker 5: to you one on one, like privately and just really
Speaker 5: give you a good download, because I know that you
Speaker 5: did reach out and DM and I never even saw
Speaker 5: them because we weren't. I wasn't following you and I
Speaker 5: didn't even see him until I followed you, and I
Speaker 5: was like, dang, there's DMS in here, and I didn't
Speaker 5: even see this cry out for help. You were you weren't.
Speaker 4: And then y'all went through two different boot camps becau.
Speaker 4: Laura ain't come here with nothing, I.
Speaker 2: Said, lie let me.
Speaker 6: We literally have to move on from with this but
Speaker 6: this morning and you'll understand it.
Speaker 8: So I live doing the show, but I tease her segment.
Speaker 4: So she's supposed to come in sure and tease what
Speaker 4: she got coming the ladies with Lauren.
Speaker 1: But she couldn't do it.
Speaker 4: This morning has a person news she.
Speaker 1: She just sneaks in the.
Speaker 2: Door and whispers in my ears with somebody else.
Speaker 1: I'm thinking something crazy walk.
Speaker 8: In together, I said, Okay, I was like, so one
Speaker 8: of the founder members of the Whispers died and I know,
Speaker 8: like all these outs are saying it I.
Speaker 2: Kind of twelve hours ago.
Speaker 5: It was seven and.
Speaker 8: Overnight, and I was like, but I want to get
Speaker 8: the statement myself before I say all right, he so,
Speaker 8: can you just like tell them that I'm going to
Speaker 8: come with the latest I came back here. They was like,
Speaker 8: you did that all of that for that and I
Speaker 8: was like, you never said but the statements right now?
Speaker 8: I'm like no, But if you don't receive it yourself,
Speaker 8: sometimes you just don't know a.
Speaker 4: Statement that went all the urban seas across the Marriat, we.
Speaker 8: Don't because there when someone's accidentally killed, you don't understand.
Speaker 5: Yeah, she was.
Speaker 2: Trying to call the phone and make sure he's really dad.
Speaker 5: I'm like, yeah, and you know what, this is gonna
Speaker 5: be my last thing about the the PTSD. What I
Speaker 5: found is a lot of people who leave only find
Speaker 5: their worth in posting news because they that's how you
Speaker 5: were rewarded. Then you were only you were You could
Speaker 5: have been fired for not producing enough, So you find
Speaker 5: like you're worth in producing stuff. That's why, like when
Speaker 5: I left, I would be posting breaking news and I
Speaker 5: didn't even have an outlet to attribute it to. And
Speaker 5: what is what it allowed me to do when I
Speaker 5: took a step back, was starting to put more worth
Speaker 5: in like me, what I'm saying and the other things,
Speaker 5: because I was like, I don't even know if I
Speaker 5: really like news anymore, Like I don't know if this
Speaker 5: is something I even enjoy anymore, like I enjoy talking
Speaker 5: to people, I enjoy x Y, Like what else can
Speaker 5: I dive into? And for you, what I would like
Speaker 5: to say is and I think you're very good at it,
Speaker 5: but you know, and I know you have other things
Speaker 5: that you like to, you know, get into, and I
Speaker 5: just don't want you to get caught up in this
Speaker 5: thing of like I have to produce to be value
Speaker 5: because it's like what who you are that brings the value,
Speaker 5: not being first because we're we kind of are taught
Speaker 5: to like we got to be first. I'm just saying
Speaker 5: that the value is not in being first anymore, because
Speaker 5: this is what I have learned. It's what you're going
Speaker 5: to talk about that is valuable because you're not technically
Speaker 5: in the news place that has to be first.
Speaker 8: It just sometimes you did you hear that a sense
Speaker 8: of urgency is what makes you special because you care,
Speaker 8: and that's important.
Speaker 5: But I think people care just they want to know
Speaker 5: that these days, everybody can get.
Speaker 2: It anywhere correct.
Speaker 5: They want your take on it.
Speaker 2: So and you were correct and everybody else is wrong.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I know. I was amazing.
Speaker 6: Was correct. I said that there were no charges dropped.
Speaker 5: Again, she was.
Speaker 8: You told me I was not correct because you said
Speaker 8: it was no charges driving.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna get back. I'm not even going back.
Speaker 5: This was a side question, but it was a healing
Speaker 5: side quest. So I'm glad we were able to talk
Speaker 5: about it.
Speaker 7: I was like, noshn't been for two years and said.
Speaker 5: We talked about the like we talk about.
Speaker 6: In this new life that you have.
Speaker 8: I was to let you see there, let you see
Speaker 8: the break down, thought about.
Speaker 7: That that was underneath, that was even undereath the brand.
Speaker 2: She showed you all my life.
Speaker 1: I had to fight, but you ain't know.
Speaker 2: She was really funny.
Speaker 1: I said, you've been through some stuff's man, listen, I'm
Speaker 1: going over there. I'm talking to me the Parker CA.
Speaker 5: Now you.
Speaker 2: Yn't take ya if you don't, if you need to
Speaker 2: go there for laurens the way.
Speaker 5: No, no, don't enter me in it.
Speaker 1: Lauren sent me he whisper.
Speaker 7: Y'all.
Speaker 1: We got whisper in the world, and y'all this one less.
Speaker 2: Please, Oh my goodness god.
Speaker 4: Friday Night Vibes on TV asked many, we appreciate you
Speaker 4: guys coming up and don't be strange.
Speaker 7: You could come home. I feel like you need a girl.
Speaker 7: I was watching too. I was like, oh my god,
Speaker 7: this is really happening. They're gonna put this on teams,
Speaker 7: but I don't.
Speaker 2: Please come up. If you are in town, please come
Speaker 2: on away. Seven years to get kept. So yeah, well,
Speaker 2: y'all just had him. So this was fine.
Speaker 1: I was fullying. I was in the commage, tweeting, was
Speaker 1: in the common, was still in store.
Speaker 5: Yes, yes, I have a I have a clothing line
Speaker 5: for plus women sizes twelve to thirty is. Yes, it's
Speaker 5: and stores. It's a Macy's. It's doing very well. And
Speaker 5: so this is one of the designs. So yeah, it's
Speaker 5: do you know the multiple streams is always.
Speaker 1: Needed to parking, not the little to keep a check.
Speaker 3: Nina Parker kept on stage Friday Night Vibes on TBS.
Speaker 2: I felt like I was a good family moment Friday. Hey,
Speaker 2: we gotta leave on the prayer. Yeah, Jesus, Wait wait,
Speaker 2: wait minute, what's wrong with the prayer?
Speaker 1: I'm like, what reverence, what the path?
Speaker 7: Let me take my past my pastor was?
Speaker 4: I do want to say one thing just to bring
Speaker 4: things around for for the preyer. Yes, when keV was
Speaker 4: here last time, he didn't shout out his show with
Speaker 4: Nina Parker. Right Tony Baker was up here. Tony Baker
Speaker 4: was talking about the Tall and him and cav going on,
Speaker 4: have ain't say nothing about the Tall.
Speaker 2: The day with us.
Speaker 7: I got a protocol. I'm gonna give you the press
Speaker 7: release right now. I'm gonna tell you talking about supposed
Speaker 7: to come out till July. Okay, well, he shout, It's fine.
Speaker 5: The show is premiering tonight on Friday night, every Friday
Speaker 5: all summer long. Celebrity guests, all the games, all the things.
Speaker 1: Comes from me and Nina Man. At the end of
Speaker 1: the day, we family.
Speaker 5: Were your cousins with the show.
Speaker 7: You will not gonna do prayer, Father God, the name
Speaker 7: of Jesus, we come against tm Z right now, Father
Speaker 7: God for everything they've done to black people.
Speaker 1: From Nina to Van to Lauren, God crush him in
Speaker 1: your mic. God, break them down.
Speaker 7: You don't mean the breaking news Father, God, breaking from
Speaker 7: the inside God, and then giving Lauren and needing the
Speaker 7: breaking news.
Speaker 1: The broken news. Hey man, you hear me.
Speaker 7: God, do it in your name Jesus, nay and bless
Speaker 7: riding that bodies to guy.
Speaker 1: Let it come on every day.
Speaker 5: And it is. It is a positive environment. That's you
Speaker 5: and we get breaks.
Speaker 7: I have never been in the middle of a prayer
Speaker 7: like Wow, I got my head about God have been ignoring.
Speaker 7: That's the breakfast wake that ass up in the morning.
Speaker 1: The breakfast club.