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Speaker 1: You were tuned about Drive on Home of the Black

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Speaker 1: and Goal Steelers Nation Radio. Welcome back. I'm Dale Ally

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Speaker 1: here with Matt Williamson. We got, as Matt said in

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Speaker 1: the previous segment, a little bit of breaking news there. Uh,

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Speaker 1: the Browns trade quarterback Baker Mayfield to the Panthers for

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Speaker 1: a conditional fifth round draft pick. They also pick up

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Speaker 1: ten point eight million dollars of his contract and Mayfield

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Speaker 1: agrees to a restructured contract with the Uh the Panthers.

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Speaker 1: The Panthers will pay him five million dollars this year. UM,

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Speaker 1: so he doesn't get he gets fifteen point five million

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Speaker 1: dollars he was supposed to get eighteen point eight six.

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Speaker 1: That kind of made that deal. The Panthers didn't want

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Speaker 1: to pick up more than five million because they're paying

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Speaker 1: They're already paying Sam Donald team point eight six million

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Speaker 1: dollars when they picked up his fifth year option, so

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Speaker 1: that you know, they didn't want to tie up too

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Speaker 1: much money in that. UM. But that means that the

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Speaker 1: Steelers will see Baker Mayfield again this year because they

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Speaker 1: play the Panthers. But guess who opens the season in Carolina? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you send this off the air one o'clock September eleven,

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Speaker 1: Brown's at Panthers. Yeah, that's awesome. I mean you said

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Speaker 1: off the air, I mean better if it was in Cleveland.

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Speaker 1: But it doesn't get much better than that. That's pretty great,

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Speaker 1: you know. I mean, I'm sure the way Baker even

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Speaker 1: holds himself and holds grudges and things like that, I mean,

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Speaker 1: he's gonna be playing out of his mind. I mean

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Speaker 1: good or bad, but he's gonna be juiced up for

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Speaker 1: that one. And I bet some Brownie fans make the track. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: probably so and and yeah, that's gonna be an interesting

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Speaker 1: one for sure. And so you know, now we know.

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Speaker 1: And I didn't think this was going to happen, but

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Speaker 1: people were trying to I coul late, well, if if

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Speaker 1: DeShawn Watson does get suspended, they still a Baker Mayfield

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Speaker 1: under contract, and they could they could force him to play. No,

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Speaker 1: they couldn't. They realized that that wasn't gonna happen. They

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Speaker 1: burned that bridge, right, they burned it. Yeah, they burned it.

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Speaker 1: They set it on fire because they their love affair

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Speaker 1: with Watson and didn't do their homework or what I mean.

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Speaker 1: There's a rash decision to say the least, um, and

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Speaker 1: then let's start with the Panthers if you want, If

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Speaker 1: you don't mind, yeah, go ahead. I mean in a

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Speaker 1: nutshell giving up a conditional fifth, and I don't know,

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Speaker 1: can it turn into a three? You know, what's the

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Speaker 1: best that that that could turn into. I don't know,

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Speaker 1: if they win the Super Bowl he's m D P

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Speaker 1: and plays every snap and they turn into a four

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Speaker 1: to turn into a three, I I don't know, Um,

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Speaker 1: but a conditional fifth and five million in cap space

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Speaker 1: is a bargain to me, you know, for an NFL

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Speaker 1: starting quarterback who isn't our favorite. You know, we rarely

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Speaker 1: say good things about Mayfield, but I do believe that

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Speaker 1: this guy tore his labor m in his off shoulder,

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Speaker 1: I think the second or third week of the year,

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Speaker 1: and then had like five other subsequent injuries. You know.

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Speaker 1: So if you're getting the two years ago version of Baker,

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Speaker 1: which I expect them to be, which I think is

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Speaker 1: the nineteenth best quarterback in the league, or so for

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Speaker 1: five million and a conditional fifth with the option of

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Speaker 1: you could extend him after that, he could leave and

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Speaker 1: get you a compic, you know. And I think the

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Speaker 1: Panthers are noticeable better team now than they were an

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Speaker 1: hour ago. Yeah, I can agree with that. I mean,

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Speaker 1: certainly he's better than Sam Donald oh Man. How about that?

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Speaker 1: They know how the what was it the first and

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Speaker 1: they've rebuilt their old line, neither by them, by the way.

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Speaker 1: They Yeah, the Panthers the first and third overall picture draft,

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Speaker 1: neither of which were drafted by them. Yeah, you'd rather

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Speaker 1: have Josh Allen and Lamar, but I guess they're both

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Speaker 1: I think this is good news for like d J.

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Speaker 1: Moore fantasy owners, and I think Carolina's defense and offense

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Speaker 1: combined could make them a right around five type of team.

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Speaker 1: I think they'll pick contending for a playoff spot in

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Speaker 1: the NFC. I don't know if they're much worse than

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Speaker 1: the Vicis now or a team like that, right, I mean,

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Speaker 1: So you seven teams go. They could be one of

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Speaker 1: two of the top three picks. If you're the Panthers,

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Speaker 1: are you shopping Donald and picking up like eighteen million

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Speaker 1: I think maybe the book at this point on Sam

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Speaker 1: Donald has been written. Does anybody want them? I don't think.

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Speaker 1: overall what he has done unbelievably bad. Yeah, I mean

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Speaker 1: he's he's a career fifty nine percent passer, fifty four

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Speaker 1: You look at he's the worst in the league for

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Speaker 1: like every bunch of sacks I mean a hundred thirty

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Speaker 1: percentage of seven point six. It's just not good. It's

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Speaker 1: really bad. I mean the ship may have even sailed

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Speaker 1: on his for his stars for a temper his career

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Speaker 1: six point five, it's horrible. All the above is bad.

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Speaker 1: I mean it's there's not a category he's good at. No, No,

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Speaker 1: mean there's talent. Yeah. Would he be an okay back

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Speaker 1: I mean, could he have a Trabisky in Buffalo type

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Speaker 1: and need five million of Baker and eighteen million of

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Speaker 1: darn older you know, But I think I think more

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Speaker 1: often than not, you're gonna you're just gonna look and say, now, well,

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Speaker 1: we'll take our chances and play what's behind door number

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Speaker 1: the Steelers though, to guys to give Donald reps. Right,

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Speaker 1: you know you're not win the Super Bowls here? If

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Speaker 1: you're Atlanta, I want every snap to go to Ritter

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Speaker 1: the field though, right, you know that's a sticky point.

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Speaker 1: But I mean I guess he's better than I keep

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Speaker 1: with this move now being made, is the forty Niners.

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Speaker 1: That's why I think Jimmy somehow's gonna end up in Cleveland.

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Speaker 1: But you brought up a really good place a couple

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Speaker 1: And do you really do you throw them? I just

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Speaker 1: cut Jimmy Garoppolo. I think they actually can, Like the

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Speaker 1: you're not gonna trade him to That's yeah, that's why

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Speaker 1: they're not going to come. Because if I'm Jimmy, if

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Speaker 1: gonna have to answer DeShawn Watson questions all year long.

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Speaker 1: you're a team like Houston. Like I'm a Mills believer.

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Speaker 1: But if you look at see, I don't think Jimmy's

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Speaker 1: job this year, right and right. And for folks Steeler fans, no,

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Speaker 1: having that conversation because again, you don't have to do

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Speaker 1: anything kind of a precedence set with the Mayfield trade.

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Speaker 1: I mean, do you think he's worth more than Baker? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I do. Both are on a one year deal. I

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Speaker 1: think I think I think Jimmy's worth more than Baker

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Speaker 1: because I can finangle that contract if I had to.

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Speaker 1: Here's the thing, it's the twenty four million million. If

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Speaker 1: I trade for him, all I gotta do is convert

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Speaker 1: that into signing bonus and give it to him now.

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Speaker 1: And that well, I guess you'd have to extend him

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Speaker 1: maybe a year. And I don't think the Browns want

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Speaker 1: to do that. They're not going to do that. But

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Speaker 1: if somebody else could, I just want to write someone else,

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Speaker 1: could Houston or somebody like that? Yeah, I mean, I

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Speaker 1: don't know, back up Ryan for a year and be

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Speaker 1: the guy next year in India. Year about how about

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Speaker 1: Tampa Tree, how about Tampa trades for him and makes

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Speaker 1: it say you're gonna be our guy when when Brady retires. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we've seen this show before. We're Indianapolis. As you just said,

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Speaker 1: I mean that I can see why those two guys.

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Speaker 1: It's not bad because he's I mean, he's still only

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Speaker 1: thirty one right now. Mhm. You'll get you'll get some

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Speaker 1: years out of him. But back to the Steelers in

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Speaker 1: the offseason, you want better than him, though, I mean,

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Speaker 1: you're settling if you think if you're gonna make him

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Speaker 1: your starter next year. Well, the Colts have settled a

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Speaker 1: lot though, oh every year, every year, every year. I

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Speaker 1: don't know. I think he'll end up in Cleveland. You

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Speaker 1: could be right, I mean that that would that would

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Speaker 1: make the most sense, But again, I I just don't

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Speaker 1: doesn't move the needle that much for me. I don't

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Speaker 1: know that any any of the NFL teams right now

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Speaker 1: are are super inclined to do the Browns a favor. No,

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Speaker 1: I don't think anybody is at all. So you're gonna

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Speaker 1: have to They're gonna have to pay for that. They're

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Speaker 1: gonna have to over beat. Like just like the the

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Speaker 1: thing with Mayfield. They wanted they wanted somebody to take

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Speaker 1: on all of Mayfield's contract. Well they still hadn't eat

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Speaker 1: almost eleven million dollars of it. You know they got

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Speaker 1: was a conditional fifth round draft pick, right, I would

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Speaker 1: handle Like when the Browns did that deal making the

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Speaker 1: trade for with the with the Texans, they gave up

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Speaker 1: a second round draft pick to get who was the

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Speaker 1: quarterback again, Osweiler. Osweiler. They gave up a second round

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Speaker 1: pick to take on that contract. Houston gave up a

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Speaker 1: two and Osweiler for like a seven, But they got

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Speaker 1: rid of the money. That's that. Oh yeah, they pay

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Speaker 1: the Browns to take off while they're off their hands

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Speaker 1: because he was so bad and so in this in

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Speaker 1: this situation, they won't do that with Jimmy. No, that's

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Speaker 1: not happening. No, No, the Niners aren't in that situation

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Speaker 1: where we'll pay you to take him. In the Mayfield situation,

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Speaker 1: the Browns still had to eat eleven million dollars in

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Speaker 1: contract space in caps face, I should say, and still

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Speaker 1: had to give up a fifth. What if you made

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Speaker 1: a deal like this between the Niners and Browns? The

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Speaker 1: Niners say, we'll give you Jimmy for a conditional fourth,

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Speaker 1: but if he plays of the snaps or you guys

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Speaker 1: go to the playoffs whether he plays a snap or not,

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Speaker 1: which I think was how they worded, like the went

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Speaker 1: trade to when he went to Indy, then you give

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Speaker 1: us a two and Cleveland sitting there going if we

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Speaker 1: can get to the playoffs, maybe he is worth the

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Speaker 1: future too. If not, we gave up a fourth or

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Speaker 1: even a future third. You know, see, I would start

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Speaker 1: at a three and go up from there. I'm not

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Speaker 1: taking a fourth for a starting quarterback. M I just said, Well,

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Speaker 1: why I said fourth, It's because it was kind of foggy.

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Speaker 1: If the Browns have that third or not? Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: don't know. I mean I would say I would. My

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Speaker 1: My price tag will be the two period. I want

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Speaker 1: your second round draft pick. When the quarterback carousel opened,

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Speaker 1: I think I might want to. I might want a

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Speaker 1: too and in the conditional pick in in Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: might do that if the brown because if I'm the

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Speaker 1: forty niners, I can also hold on to Jimmy g

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Speaker 1: this year. I had the cap space. When he signs

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Speaker 1: with somebody next year, I'm getting I'm getting a third

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Speaker 1: round compenstory pick. Yeah, he's a signed for big money.

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Speaker 1: I'll make at least twenty million next year. So I

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Speaker 1: know right now I've got a three in hand. So

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Speaker 1: why would I take a four M unless you could

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Speaker 1: turn into a two, right, it would have to be

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Speaker 1: something that that that not even turned into I wanted to.

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Speaker 1: It's it would be too because yes, two years from now,

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Speaker 1: here's the other thing that you have to factor into this.

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Speaker 1: This is why I saw a report out there or

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Speaker 1: when the report it was speculation that the Steelers will

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Speaker 1: trade the Ante Johnson to the Cowboys first first second

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Speaker 1: round draft pick. Well, first of all, you used the

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Speaker 1: second pick in the third round when you took the

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Speaker 1: Ante Johnson in m If you think the Cowboys are

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Speaker 1: going to be decent this year, you're that the second

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Speaker 1: round draft pick is essentially a third round draft pick.

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Speaker 1: It's the end of the second round, right right. If

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Speaker 1: you think they're a playoff team, yeah, it's pick or

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Speaker 1: later basically, So I'm not interested in that. No, I

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Speaker 1: wouldn't look at it. You know, I wouldn't do it

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Speaker 1: if you'd have been a seventh round pick. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I don't care what I invested in right right at

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Speaker 1: this point though, I mean, he's worth X no matter

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Speaker 1: what I paid for him, right, And then it would

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Speaker 1: have to be more than a two from a play

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Speaker 1: off team for me, unless it was at the trade

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Speaker 1: deadline and the Steelers had one win at that point

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Speaker 1: and won't make the playoffs and pick it looks great,

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Speaker 1: you know, and give me future picks, you know, sure,

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Speaker 1: But right this minute. I'm not doing it for the

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Speaker 1: Dallas second. No no, no, I mean if I would Dallas,

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Speaker 1: I would. Yeah. All interesting, but he's willing to do

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Speaker 1: it for today's show. So for my partner Matt Williamson,

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Speaker 1: I am Dale Lelly. We thank you for listening to

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Speaker 1: this edition of the Drive on Steelers Nation Radio