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Speaker 1: This is the Benn and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast

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Speaker 1: with her Radio. This is another episode of the Almost

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Speaker 1: Famous podcast. Ashley is going to be joining us today, yes,

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Speaker 1: for our interview with a very special guest. Spencer Swice

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Speaker 1: is gonna be here. Uh you might remember. Spencer's from Chicago,

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Speaker 1: Illinois's gonna catch up with us on everything he's doing

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Speaker 1: in his life, what life has looked like post Bachelor.

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Speaker 1: I know they've made some good friends along the way.

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Speaker 1: Ashley is gonna sit in for that interview, but before

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Speaker 1: we do, I want to take a second to hang

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Speaker 1: out with you all and tell you about Wells Adams

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Speaker 1: and Sarah Highland's wedding. I just got back from it.

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Speaker 1: Actually I'm still a little tired. But it was an

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Speaker 1: incredible event and you can read all about it and

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Speaker 1: see the pictures in Vogue, which was there to cover

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Speaker 1: the wedding. It's a pretty good magazine to have cover

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Speaker 1: your wedding. But a lot of Bachelor Nation guests were there.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm gonna forget some of them, but you

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Speaker 1: can read about him. But it's Nick Vile. It was

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Speaker 1: Chris Souls, Chris Harrison was there along. Gael was also

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Speaker 1: there obviously, I was there along with Daniel Maltby. She

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Speaker 1: is a friend of Wells is from Nashville. Uh, Courtney

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Speaker 1: Dober was there. Uh. Joe a grocery store. Joe. That

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Speaker 1: was a big old list. I want to forget somebody, Oh,

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Speaker 1: Caitlin Bristow, Jason tart Ik. There's a lot of people.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna forget somebody that I really love and care about.

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Speaker 1: I really enjoyed my time with every person from bachel

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Speaker 1: Nation that was there. Were I was kind of talking

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Speaker 1: to Jessica about that. Is it's always good to have

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Speaker 1: a reunion with people from the show and just have

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Speaker 1: a second to get to know them a little better.

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Speaker 1: After I get to know these people better every time

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Speaker 1: I go. Man, I just I'm very fairly like these people. Okay,

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Speaker 1: so here's the deal. The wedding, uh was just outside

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Speaker 1: of Santa Barbara, a little town called Solving. Solving is

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Speaker 1: a really cute town if you're ever up in that

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Speaker 1: area to stop by. It was at a vineyard, one

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Speaker 1: of the most incredible settings I've ever seen. The flower

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Speaker 1: arrangements were spectacular, And I'm not a big like flower

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Speaker 1: their flower arrangements were spectacular. The food, we had some

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Speaker 1: miso sea bass, which everybody was talking about when we

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Speaker 1: had some beef tenderloin. The food was was out of

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Speaker 1: this world, the best wedding food I've ever had. UM

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Speaker 1: A live band. Obviously, a lot of the Modern Family

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Speaker 1: cast was there. Sean White, Nina doughb Ever also there.

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Speaker 1: Jessica really loved getting to see Kalin Kalin was there

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Speaker 1: from Bachelor Nation, uh, and also meeting Debbie Ryan. Jessica

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Speaker 1: really liked those two girls a lot, spent a lot

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Speaker 1: of time with them. I got to hang out with

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Speaker 1: him and uh. And so the setting was this was

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Speaker 1: a three day event. There was a like a welcome party,

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Speaker 1: there was the wedding, and then the brunch the next day. Uh.

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Speaker 1: The wedding UM was what you would typically um I

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Speaker 1: think a wedding would be like. It was just like

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Speaker 1: like the nicest wedding I've ever been to. And then

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Speaker 1: that evening we had an after party, a lot of celebration,

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Speaker 1: a lot of love. You obviously know from this podcast

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Speaker 1: that I love Wells. Wells is a good buddy of mine. UM.

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Speaker 1: And you know they're obviously tears shared just in celebration

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Speaker 1: of the two of them. They've had an incredible story

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Speaker 1: along engagement. UM. They've definitely understood the meaning of being

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Speaker 1: special people, um, for for different reasons. UM, but they

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Speaker 1: both are that their specialness, their uniqueness makes them an

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Speaker 1: can read all about it again in Vogue magazine. Also,

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Speaker 1: I think People magazine we're covering some things. UM, but

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Speaker 1: that's my experience. Jessicin I had a great time. We

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Speaker 1: stayed out late, we celebrated hard. Uh, we got to

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Speaker 1: with them that we don't always get to see in person,

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Speaker 1: and then obviously got to meet some new friends as well.

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Speaker 1: And UH, and we're just so happy. Uh. Jessica and

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Speaker 1: from what I know I can say because I don't

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Speaker 1: my experience from the wedding, which was something very very special.

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Speaker 1: Hi Ben, I'm here. Um, thank you for telling us

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Speaker 1: about Sara Mill's wedding. I just caught the end of that.

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Speaker 1: It looks looked stunning and her dresses were amazing based

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Speaker 1: on what I saw on Instagram, dresses four four, Oh

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Speaker 1: That is amazing. Wow, that's what like a real celebrity kid.

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Speaker 1: You not almost famous? You can have four dresses. That's

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Speaker 1: so amazing. Um okay, well, I am here in Nantucket.

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be special. Thanks for taking the time to

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Speaker 1: sit down and chat about everything going on in Batchel Nation.

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Speaker 1: Obviously there's a lot, as I just mentioned. I just

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Speaker 1: talked about Saren Wills's wedding. Uh, we also have Spencer

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Speaker 1: then also do Bachelor headlines. A lot to talk about,

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Speaker 1: So I'm glad you're here to talk about it with

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Speaker 1: know you could. Uh. Now we're gonna get Spencer on

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Speaker 1: But before we do have Spencer, and I have to say,

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Speaker 1: can you think of his name without hearing Gabby say it,

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Speaker 1: Spent Spent, Spencer, sp Spencer. Yeah, I'm doing my best.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us today. And there's so much to

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Speaker 1: How did it feel to watch an episode knowing that

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Speaker 1: You guys have been there before, way more so than me. Um.

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Speaker 1: But we felt really bad for you guys know it actually,

425
00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:17,360
Speaker 1: So it was a super strange day to walking on

426
00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:19,080
Speaker 1: And I think some of the memes about me were

427
00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:22,080
Speaker 1: like so funny, um because I was like like what

428
00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:25,000
Speaker 1: the like, what is this? Like? What is going on?

429
00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:27,520
Speaker 1: But it actually ended up being fun because we got

430
00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:31,160
Speaker 1: to like at least show the audience some like personality

431
00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:33,960
Speaker 1: and for me, as someone who's like pretty non talkative,

432
00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:37,880
Speaker 1: that was fun for me to watch back. Um, but yeah,

433
00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:40,000
Speaker 1: it was. It was a lot. It was interesting. Group

434
00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:43,640
Speaker 1: dates are are never perfect. Um, so I think jet

435
00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:46,840
Speaker 1: skiing uh in Paradise would be a little bit, um,

436
00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:50,600
Speaker 1: a little bit more intimate or enjoyable, especially you know,

437
00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:52,800
Speaker 1: with someone like Teddy who's just like adorable and it

438
00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:56,040
Speaker 1: just seems like a really sweet person Um. That's you know,

439
00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:58,720
Speaker 1: you know something I would enjoy a well, I'm wishing

440
00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:03,119
Speaker 1: that you were there. You're there too, man. Hey uh Spencer,

441
00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:06,479
Speaker 1: it's really great to have you on. Thank you for

442
00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:11,160
Speaker 1: giving us uh your time. I know that you're around

443
00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:13,439
Speaker 1: a lot during the season. We were excited to have

444
00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:15,280
Speaker 1: you on to get to hear more from you. We

445
00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:18,800
Speaker 1: hope to see more of you in the future. But

446
00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:21,399
Speaker 1: until we get to do that, until you come on again,

447
00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:24,440
Speaker 1: thanks for coming on this fast podcast. It means a lot, dude.

448
00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:27,160
Speaker 1: Of course, Thank you guys. You guys are super amazing.

449
00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:29,399
Speaker 1: I appreciate everything you guys do. Everyone I've talked to

450
00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:31,520
Speaker 1: is like, oh my god, they're the best. You know,

451
00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:33,840
Speaker 1: x y Z. So you have a bunch of fans

452
00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:37,520
Speaker 1: within the community, so that means a lot that is

453
00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:42,439
Speaker 1: going to I know. Um, yeah, please come back and

454
00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:44,679
Speaker 1: give us all the details about the cruise ship and

455
00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:47,680
Speaker 1: all the other things that you weren't able to say today.

456
00:24:47,720 --> 00:25:00,919
Speaker 1: Of course, of course, actually thank you guys. Alright, this

457
00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:04,480
Speaker 1: week's episode is hometowns. Obviously there is a lot to

458
00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:08,479
Speaker 1: discuss because there's a lot of hometowns. Ashley, let's get

459
00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:12,560
Speaker 1: it started. What do you think at Jason's hometown? Jason's hometown?

460
00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:18,880
Speaker 1: My My major takeaway is he doesn't seem like super

461
00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:23,840
Speaker 1: into it. He's not super into it. I haven't feel

462
00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:26,880
Speaker 1: like into it all season. You don't think that he's

463
00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:29,679
Speaker 1: been into like Gabby that much. No, I think he is.

464
00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:31,960
Speaker 1: I don't know if he knows how to express it.

465
00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:33,640
Speaker 1: He's into I said that, I think after their first

466
00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:36,240
Speaker 1: one on one where it's like maybe everybody here is

467
00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:39,239
Speaker 1: seeing something I'm not, But I just don't see it.

468
00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:42,359
Speaker 1: Like I think he's probably a great dude, and I

469
00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:47,080
Speaker 1: think they have some chemistry. I just don't I don't

470
00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:53,280
Speaker 1: see like the flirtation that you would expect when we're flirtation.

471
00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:56,960
Speaker 1: I feel no chemistry. I was I feel weird about

472
00:25:56,960 --> 00:26:01,120
Speaker 1: this because when they were together in France, loved him,

473
00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:04,560
Speaker 1: thought that he was the front runner, and then all

474
00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:09,960
Speaker 1: of a sudden, I felt nothing. With his hometown. He um,

475
00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:13,359
Speaker 1: he seems like he's a nice family. That that house

476
00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:16,520
Speaker 1: was really opulent and fun to look at. But that

477
00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:19,159
Speaker 1: was my biggest takeaway. That and the fact that his

478
00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:24,360
Speaker 1: mom is the absolute opposite of your typical bachelor mom.

479
00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:28,600
Speaker 1: She was like, Oh, you're not ready to get engaged,

480
00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:31,680
Speaker 1: but I want you to get engaged in this girl tomorrow.

481
00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:35,560
Speaker 1: It was hilarious and it made me think, this mom

482
00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:38,879
Speaker 1: is a Bachelor fan mom. She signed him up for

483
00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:42,360
Speaker 1: the show. Now her her son is close to that

484
00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:45,840
Speaker 1: like Pinnacle Final Rose, and he doesn't really care about it,

485
00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:48,480
Speaker 1: and she's like, no, you should care about it. I

486
00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:53,119
Speaker 1: want you to be happy. Oh yeah, well it was

487
00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:54,800
Speaker 1: fun to watch. Like you said, it is a good family.

488
00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:58,959
Speaker 1: New Orleans is always amazing. Uh, don't see the flirtation

489
00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:00,800
Speaker 1: between the two of them. Definitely would have put it

490
00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:03,720
Speaker 1: up there in my top hometown date. So let's move

491
00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:09,280
Speaker 1: on then to Zach's hometown, which took place in Anaheim.

492
00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:14,320
Speaker 1: Zach's hometown was nice. It was probably obviously with Rachel. Yes,

493
00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:19,719
Speaker 1: Zack's hometown, to put it briefly, was probably the family

494
00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:22,000
Speaker 1: that you most want to meet out of all the

495
00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:25,720
Speaker 1: families we saw today, the family that like it went

496
00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:29,520
Speaker 1: according to ideal plan. You know, I'm gonna go meet

497
00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:34,399
Speaker 1: the parents, and it went quite smoothly. They're very warm.

498
00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:37,480
Speaker 1: I feel like they're warm, but dad was a little intimidating. Okay,

499
00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:41,000
Speaker 1: but but I think overall like they accepted her. Yeah,

500
00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:43,920
Speaker 1: I mean, I think I think it's I mean, I

501
00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:47,720
Speaker 1: would say this. The beauty of hometowns is the uniqueness

502
00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:51,360
Speaker 1: of each family. And so some people might see, for example,

503
00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:53,280
Speaker 1: and we're going to get to it like Tino's family

504
00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:56,119
Speaker 1: and be like, wow, that was really bad, you know,

505
00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:59,399
Speaker 1: And every season kind of has the family that doesn't

506
00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:04,040
Speaker 1: enjoy the process and doesn't enjoy the idea of what's happening.

507
00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:09,080
Speaker 1: I actually like it and I respect it, uh to

508
00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:12,320
Speaker 1: the point of where I'd say, yeah, smoothness is cool,

509
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:16,000
Speaker 1: but it's not one. It's not great viewing pleasure. And too,

510
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:19,159
Speaker 1: we don't get to learn as much about the family

511
00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:21,480
Speaker 1: as maybe I would ideally want. We didn't get to

512
00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:23,560
Speaker 1: learn as much as this family because they weren't they

513
00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:26,000
Speaker 1: didn't have as much of an in your phase dynamic. Yeah,

514
00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:29,359
Speaker 1: i'd say that. Yeah, I get that. I totally understand that.

515
00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:31,320
Speaker 1: But they did have a cute pre date when they

516
00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:33,360
Speaker 1: went and they watched the airplanes. I think that really

517
00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:36,720
Speaker 1: kicked it off for me. I think this guy, Zach

518
00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:41,280
Speaker 1: seems like this is just a prediction on my part. Seriously, guys,

519
00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:43,880
Speaker 1: we are not spoiled. I haven't been spoiled for seasons

520
00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:47,120
Speaker 1: and seasons. Um. My prediction is that they're really setting

521
00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:50,000
Speaker 1: him up to be the heartbroken one, kind of like

522
00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:53,440
Speaker 1: a Blake hurtsman. I feel like he's probably the one

523
00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:56,520
Speaker 1: that she should pick in the end um and I

524
00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:59,240
Speaker 1: think she's going to pick Tino, even though it seems

525
00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:02,360
Speaker 1: like Zach and my opinion is way more genuinely invested.

526
00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:05,800
Speaker 1: I'm a I'm a Zach fan, I'm on I'm on

527
00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:09,320
Speaker 1: Zax team, and I agree with you. I'm on Zack's

528
00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:13,200
Speaker 1: team now too. I think what he's showing h is

529
00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:18,800
Speaker 1: that one he respects his his family, that he respects Rachel,

530
00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:22,720
Speaker 1: and then he also has this creativity around wanting to

531
00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:25,959
Speaker 1: have these experiences with Rachel that will be memorable and

532
00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:28,680
Speaker 1: meaningful and he's going out of his way to do that,

533
00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:31,000
Speaker 1: and so I do. I'm I like Zach a lot. Well,

534
00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:35,640
Speaker 1: Gabby has her next hometown. It's Johnny's hometown. Johnny's an

535
00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:39,240
Speaker 1: interesting character to me. It's Florida, but he's kind of

536
00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:41,200
Speaker 1: one that's snuck up just to share my thoughts. He

537
00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:47,320
Speaker 1: snuck up on me. I can't quite fully read him,

538
00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:51,960
Speaker 1: but he obviously has Gabby's interest, but he kind of

539
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:55,040
Speaker 1: came out of nowhere from me. I think she's really

540
00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:57,240
Speaker 1: physically attracted to him, and I think they have good

541
00:29:57,280 --> 00:30:03,000
Speaker 1: like fun, flirty physical attraction band her and chemistry. I

542
00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:05,160
Speaker 1: don't know that they're like they're not like long haul people,

543
00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:07,200
Speaker 1: and I think we kind of like got a preview

544
00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:10,160
Speaker 1: of that. Like he's basically says to his parents like

545
00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:12,360
Speaker 1: I'm not ready to get engaged. I'm not going to

546
00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:15,720
Speaker 1: get engaged now, and he made it seem like it's

547
00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:17,840
Speaker 1: not even like it's not even like he was like,

548
00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:22,840
Speaker 1: it's not her. I feel like, okay, I feel like

549
00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:26,920
Speaker 1: he's not sold on the fact of being with Gabby

550
00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:29,920
Speaker 1: long term. Not sure if he's sold there, and then

551
00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:33,400
Speaker 1: I know he's not sold on getting engaged after such

552
00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:36,640
Speaker 1: a short period of time, and his parents are actually

553
00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:41,080
Speaker 1: again like Jason's parents, like they're kind of encouraging him

554
00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:46,160
Speaker 1: two go for it if he feels if he feels

555
00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:48,400
Speaker 1: like it's right in two weeks or whatever the amount

556
00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:50,959
Speaker 1: of time is that they have left. Uh, they go,

557
00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:54,720
Speaker 1: you know, I think you are like mature emotionally enough.

558
00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:57,920
Speaker 1: Financially you may not be, but that's something you can

559
00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:02,160
Speaker 1: grow together. That conversation really stuck with me. Yeah, financially,

560
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:05,080
Speaker 1: just get engaged. It's gonna work out. Don't worry about it. Uh,

561
00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:08,280
Speaker 1: there's things that can happen. No, I mean his family did.

562
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:13,200
Speaker 1: I enjoyed his family dynamics. I loved his family. Yeah,

563
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:16,400
Speaker 1: there was this, there was this back and forth, and

564
00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:19,000
Speaker 1: there was this kind of like you'd hope in a

565
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:22,320
Speaker 1: in a parent where you express one thing and they

566
00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:24,320
Speaker 1: might not agree with you, and so from a loving

567
00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:27,560
Speaker 1: place they kind of tell you what they're seeing. I

568
00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:30,480
Speaker 1: think we got that with Johnny's family, and I enjoyed

569
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:35,240
Speaker 1: that that kind of dialogue. He's still up there for me.

570
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:38,880
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't I don't know how long this lasts,

571
00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:43,360
Speaker 1: but there is still this. I would put him above

572
00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:47,920
Speaker 1: Jason now me too, me too, And like if we

573
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:52,680
Speaker 1: had to rank them, uh so, I wouldn't last week,

574
00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:55,560
Speaker 1: but now after some hometowns, I would. And I also

575
00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:57,840
Speaker 1: just want to say about Johnny's family and just the

576
00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:00,440
Speaker 1: conversation that he had with his parents was the first time,

577
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:04,040
Speaker 1: perhaps or one of the very few times that I've

578
00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:08,280
Speaker 1: watched um you know, the contestant talk to their parents

579
00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:12,680
Speaker 1: and feel like this feels really authentic. This feels like

580
00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:16,160
Speaker 1: there's a hidden camera going on. There's nothing like over

581
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:19,520
Speaker 1: the top about it. This really seems like a conversation,

582
00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:21,920
Speaker 1: a serious conversation that I would have with my parents

583
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:24,640
Speaker 1: over dinner, and it would be on air and I

584
00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:26,840
Speaker 1: wouldn't have been known it was found. I just really

585
00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:30,680
Speaker 1: really liked the vibe there. Yeah, I'm with you. I

586
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:33,840
Speaker 1: don't disagree with anything you just said. The vibe of

587
00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:39,120
Speaker 1: this hometown felt very very hometown ish on what you

588
00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:42,120
Speaker 1: would expect and want in need. There's a little drama,

589
00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:46,000
Speaker 1: they're a little intrigue, but then there's a lot of love. Well,

590
00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:49,840
Speaker 1: speaking of drama and intrigue, we have Rachel's hometown next

591
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:55,080
Speaker 1: with Tyler. This one was very unexpected. It was in Wildwood,

592
00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:59,360
Speaker 1: New Jersey. I didn't see this coming, Ashley, what in

593
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:02,560
Speaker 1: my reference seen here? You sort of saw it coming

594
00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:05,680
Speaker 1: because last week we thought it was super weird that

595
00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:07,440
Speaker 1: he didn't have a one on one and he was

596
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:10,560
Speaker 1: going into the hometowns and meeting a family. Why bring

597
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:13,040
Speaker 1: him to hometowns then? I don't know. But anyways, yeah,

598
00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:15,840
Speaker 1: lo and behold we see that he he doesn't actually

599
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:21,000
Speaker 1: she doesn't actually meet the family. They go to Wildwood Um,

600
00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:23,680
Speaker 1: which is you know, basically like a fair carnival area

601
00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:26,920
Speaker 1: on the Jersey shore, you know, a boardwalk, and he

602
00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:30,800
Speaker 1: owns one of the games there, so obviously he has

603
00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:34,120
Speaker 1: a big community there. He plays the games and goes

604
00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:35,960
Speaker 1: on rides with her. It's cute, you know, It's a

605
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:39,040
Speaker 1: cute lead up to great day date before going home,

606
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:44,760
Speaker 1: and of course the cameras waiting. Yeah, but I mean,

607
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:49,160
Speaker 1: out of anybody so far, it feels like Tyler is

608
00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:52,240
Speaker 1: sold out. I know this is my wife. I'm all in,

609
00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:55,840
Speaker 1: let's go. He says, I'm not just falling in love

610
00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:58,120
Speaker 1: with you, I am in love with you, and Rachel

611
00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:09,160
Speaker 1: is like just cringing, heartbreaking, and damn did he handle

612
00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:11,839
Speaker 1: it like the ultimate gentleman, like could he have been

613
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:14,839
Speaker 1: more perfect in that moment? No, he did really well,

614
00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:19,480
Speaker 1: I thought he. I mean, I think he's probably he

615
00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:22,239
Speaker 1: didn't even ask act embarrassed, which is probably how I

616
00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:26,200
Speaker 1: would have acted, um or like just like no, never mind,

617
00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:27,760
Speaker 1: I take it back. I don't really mean what I said.

618
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:31,320
Speaker 1: I don't know what I would have done. But he

619
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:37,320
Speaker 1: he just took it in stride and then gosh, dang it, ash,

620
00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:42,600
Speaker 1: I mean, son of a biscuit. His family, his family

621
00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:46,600
Speaker 1: was so hyped, and it was like that was hard

622
00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:48,680
Speaker 1: for me. I did my awkward like I can't watch

623
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:51,759
Speaker 1: the screen. I've got to walk away because it just

624
00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:53,600
Speaker 1: was so hard for me to see how happy they

625
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:55,200
Speaker 1: were and they wouldn't let the poor boy get a

626
00:34:55,200 --> 00:35:00,200
Speaker 1: word out. I know, he is just a sweetness. And

627
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:03,840
Speaker 1: my biggest takeaway from that day was this guy is

628
00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:07,040
Speaker 1: going to be totally fine. This is not even the

629
00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:10,200
Speaker 1: kind of guy that I worry about taking Bachelor at

630
00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:13,440
Speaker 1: Fame and becoming an f boy with. I think he

631
00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:17,280
Speaker 1: just wants to find somebody to love. And he seems

632
00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:20,799
Speaker 1: to use the Ben Higgins word just so lovable. He

633
00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:23,400
Speaker 1: is lovable, and he lives in Wildwood, New Jersey and

634
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:25,560
Speaker 1: he's got to be the most eligible bachelor in Wildwood,

635
00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:28,000
Speaker 1: New Jersey, now right, I mean I even know where

636
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:30,600
Speaker 1: that's at. But I mean he's I mean, think about

637
00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:32,239
Speaker 1: what he can offer you in life. And you can

638
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:34,359
Speaker 1: always have a good time. You can play any game

639
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:36,919
Speaker 1: you want, you can ride ride just nobody else there.

640
00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:42,839
Speaker 1: And he's good looking and sweet, he's so cute. Yeah. Um,

641
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:45,279
Speaker 1: but oh it was hard to watch his family. I

642
00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:47,399
Speaker 1: just I kept I yelled at the screen. I kind

643
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:49,080
Speaker 1: of do this, I have your reactions. I was like,

644
00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:51,480
Speaker 1: let him talk, Like, let him talk. He just goes.

645
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:54,239
Speaker 1: He has to tell you you're you're you're taking the

646
00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:56,480
Speaker 1: knife and you're stabbing it in a little farther every time.

647
00:35:56,520 --> 00:36:01,319
Speaker 1: You're like Rachel, and they're like Rachel. But then he

648
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:06,520
Speaker 1: had like such incredible patients. Now, and there is something

649
00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:09,920
Speaker 1: to be said Ashley, because hometowns are wild and weird

650
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:13,080
Speaker 1: and wacky. There is something to be said about how

651
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:19,000
Speaker 1: the the contestants uh navigate and communicate with their parents.

652
00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:21,200
Speaker 1: It's also like you can see a little bit of

653
00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:25,160
Speaker 1: their character behind the scenes, and you could tell there

654
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:28,200
Speaker 1: that his character is strong, like he he obviously was

655
00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:30,560
Speaker 1: not happy. He was probably a little upset with his family,

656
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:32,640
Speaker 1: but he just let it happen and then he was like, hey,

657
00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:34,680
Speaker 1: just let you know this is what happened. And then

658
00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:37,719
Speaker 1: there then they all reacted well. But I really was

659
00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:41,359
Speaker 1: impressed with him, speaking of a man with character. Our

660
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:44,040
Speaker 1: next home date hometown date was with Gabby and it's

661
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:48,120
Speaker 1: it's with Eric, Eric's hometown. She is in New Jersey

662
00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:55,640
Speaker 1: as well. This, um, yeah, this is this hometown. Obviously

663
00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:58,120
Speaker 1: there's gonna be a headline here in a bit, um,

664
00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:00,720
Speaker 1: but just so everybody knows, Eric's father to pass away

665
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:06,000
Speaker 1: just a few weeks after this hometown date, um, which

666
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:09,520
Speaker 1: brings the gravity of this date in this moment, and

667
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:14,839
Speaker 1: having it recorded, I feel like um to an ever

668
00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:18,040
Speaker 1: brings it to even a more real level, a heavier

669
00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:24,360
Speaker 1: level than it already was. Watching But this, I mean, actually,

670
00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:26,200
Speaker 1: I know I'm kind of like having a monologue here,

671
00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:28,960
Speaker 1: But what I found out, you know that I can't

672
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:32,960
Speaker 1: speak about things like this. I just yeah, I feel

673
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:36,520
Speaker 1: it and I can't put it into words. He seemed

674
00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:39,120
Speaker 1: like such a sweet, sweet man. Um. Do you could

675
00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:43,000
Speaker 1: tell that he was struggling? Yeah, Uh, you could obviously

676
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:45,560
Speaker 1: see he was struggling. You could see the other family

677
00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:50,040
Speaker 1: rallying around him and Eric, their excitement for Eric. Uh.

678
00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:53,480
Speaker 1: The thing that also here I didn't want to just

679
00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:58,600
Speaker 1: go unspoken is that Eric has been on this show

680
00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:03,440
Speaker 1: doing the best he can, investing them as much as

681
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:06,880
Speaker 1: he can into this relationship with Gabby, while at the

682
00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:10,080
Speaker 1: same time knowing his dad is at home now. Some

683
00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:12,480
Speaker 1: would say, like in past seasons, right, how could you

684
00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:15,120
Speaker 1: leave him? I'm sure his dad wanted him to go, Like,

685
00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:17,680
Speaker 1: I'm sure his dad said, like, you need to do this,

686
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:19,279
Speaker 1: like you need to continue to live your life. You

687
00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:21,359
Speaker 1: don't know. I could be around for the next forty years.

688
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:22,960
Speaker 1: I could be around for the next year. You don't

689
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:26,560
Speaker 1: know this. And so let's not judge Eric for leaving.

690
00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:29,560
Speaker 1: Let's give him some UM. I don't know if the

691
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:33,120
Speaker 1: word would be grace or just understanding on what his

692
00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:36,680
Speaker 1: position now has been through this whole experience. Uh, it's

693
00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:38,160
Speaker 1: had to be heavy on him, It's had to be

694
00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:39,840
Speaker 1: on his mind. Yet he has done the best he

695
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:44,040
Speaker 1: can to try to still find love. And I'm I

696
00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:45,640
Speaker 1: just I want to give him kudos for that. I mean,

697
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:48,120
Speaker 1: I left when my dad was you know, we had

698
00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:50,880
Speaker 1: an open heart surgery for my time on the Bachelor.

699
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:54,239
Speaker 1: It's really hard to be focused in the midst of that.

700
00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:58,040
Speaker 1: And so yeah, I'm i'm I'm I'm impressed with Eric.

701
00:38:58,080 --> 00:38:59,759
Speaker 1: I guess it would be how I sum all that

702
00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:05,480
Speaker 1: up me too. There was definitely a feeling of strength

703
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:11,319
Speaker 1: at that home, that hometown date, and such a such

704
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:15,480
Speaker 1: an also, um, a feeling of importance, like you knew

705
00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:17,759
Speaker 1: that moment wasn't like a TV moment for them, Like

706
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:20,520
Speaker 1: that was such a real life moment, and every moment

707
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:23,600
Speaker 1: at that point that he had with his son and

708
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:27,840
Speaker 1: he had with his dad counted so much, um that

709
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:30,239
Speaker 1: like every time, I'm sure they're like, this could be

710
00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:35,560
Speaker 1: the last time that I'm seeing him. Um, I don't know.

711
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:40,080
Speaker 1: I obviously again him having my speechless moment, but it's

712
00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:45,360
Speaker 1: just it was a really that was just a moment.

713
00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:49,520
Speaker 1: It's a moment that I will remember watching being speechless

714
00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:53,839
Speaker 1: over this is really okay, And I think many people

715
00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:57,040
Speaker 1: will be speechless. And that's why, you know, I guess

716
00:39:57,040 --> 00:39:59,839
Speaker 1: I did. I wanted to show I wanted to say, like, hey, Eric,

717
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:02,480
Speaker 1: Eric was in it, like this is real life. This

718
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:04,640
Speaker 1: is one of those and we haven't had a lot

719
00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:06,560
Speaker 1: of those this season. But it's one of those where

720
00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:09,520
Speaker 1: real life kind of comes into contact with the show

721
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:12,440
Speaker 1: and it's no longer, like you said, a TV moment,

722
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:14,879
Speaker 1: and it's we have to we all have to sit

723
00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:19,560
Speaker 1: back and understand just how what was happening the sacred

724
00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:23,200
Speaker 1: space that was existing in that room, Uh, knowing that

725
00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:25,880
Speaker 1: his father was really sick, and knowing that his family

726
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:29,080
Speaker 1: was all there, and just yeah, what was being said

727
00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:32,719
Speaker 1: and not said in that moment, uh, you know, to

728
00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:36,279
Speaker 1: protect his dad and protect Eric. But it was it

729
00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:40,719
Speaker 1: was heavy, and but also I want to say it

730
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:45,000
Speaker 1: was very special because I think they grew, they grew

731
00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:49,359
Speaker 1: closer together, um from that time. Like I didn't really

732
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:51,160
Speaker 1: want to say anything along those lines either, but that

733
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:58,279
Speaker 1: is how I felt. Um. It's it just feels like

734
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:01,799
Speaker 1: his dad is learning to be like really watching over

735
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:06,040
Speaker 1: him for what he's going through right now between like

736
00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:10,279
Speaker 1: the show and whatever the after facts of the show are.

737
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:16,759
Speaker 1: F cancer. I don't like it. Nobody does sucks um,

738
00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:19,560
Speaker 1: and so many of us have had personal experiences with it,

739
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:32,880
Speaker 1: um that have affected us. Switching gears. Now to the

740
00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:35,319
Speaker 1: final hometown date, which was Tino's. Obviously this was going

741
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:36,880
Speaker 1: to be held to the end because it was the

742
00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:42,520
Speaker 1: most controversial, the most confusing. Um, we always have a

743
00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:46,680
Speaker 1: date like this every season. I'm gonna say some things

744
00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:48,560
Speaker 1: there about this day actually that I know I'm going

745
00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:50,840
Speaker 1: to get a lot of backlash for. Okay, but this

746
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:58,440
Speaker 1: happened in Santa Clarita, California. I again, and I've messaged

747
00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:00,560
Speaker 1: you know, I like Tino like I I do. And

748
00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:02,759
Speaker 1: I think he has been a fan of the show

749
00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:05,080
Speaker 1: coming into it, which is even more confusing to me

750
00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:08,000
Speaker 1: on why his hometown date went the way it did

751
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:10,000
Speaker 1: because I know his his family has watched it, like

752
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:12,800
Speaker 1: there's videos of them watching it together. I don't understand

753
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:16,440
Speaker 1: what was happening. Then in this environment, I think Tino

754
00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:19,520
Speaker 1: uh is very into Rachel, So I will put that

755
00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:21,920
Speaker 1: and say I think he just really like, actually likes her,

756
00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:24,399
Speaker 1: believes that it could be his wife. But I would

757
00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:26,680
Speaker 1: say this is two weeks in a row where Tino

758
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:30,640
Speaker 1: has been hasn't had his best weeks, uh And and

759
00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:32,800
Speaker 1: I say this, and this is where people will probably

760
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:35,480
Speaker 1: get upset with me. I am confused on why his

761
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:38,360
Speaker 1: family was so against the process, considering they knew what

762
00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:39,960
Speaker 1: he was getting into and their fans of the show

763
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:41,879
Speaker 1: I don't know what that where that was coming from.

764
00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:45,120
Speaker 1: They would have to explain that. But it was his

765
00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:49,279
Speaker 1: dismissal of his family's opinions that I felt like, maybe

766
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:50,919
Speaker 1: rubbed me the wrong way. Tell me if I'm wrong,

767
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:53,319
Speaker 1: tell me if you disagree with me. But I felt

768
00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:59,560
Speaker 1: like he almost was like unlike maybe Johnny's like Johnny's reaction,

769
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:02,000
Speaker 1: he just wasn't listening to what his family even was

770
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:07,279
Speaker 1: trying to say, am I wrong? You're not wrong, But

771
00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:10,840
Speaker 1: there's definitely just like different family relationships, Like my family

772
00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:14,600
Speaker 1: is so close, you know, close close clothes can't get

773
00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:18,839
Speaker 1: much closer. And we talked to each other, like if

774
00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:20,680
Speaker 1: you heard the way that we talked to each other

775
00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:26,799
Speaker 1: sometimes each other. Yeah, I remember one time I got

776
00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:30,040
Speaker 1: on here and I thought that Lauren took my SD

777
00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:34,200
Speaker 1: card and I go, lord card, that's stupid, bitch, And

778
00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:37,319
Speaker 1: I literally sound like angry at her, but like then

779
00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:39,160
Speaker 1: I told her, I go Lauren. I got on the

780
00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:41,120
Speaker 1: podcast and I called Lauren. I said, I called you

781
00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:43,640
Speaker 1: a stupid bitch. And I think that people weren't used

782
00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:45,439
Speaker 1: to the fact that that's how we talked to each other,

783
00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:49,239
Speaker 1: and she would like laughed, you know, and like my

784
00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:54,239
Speaker 1: dad tells me all the time, you know, stuff like that,

785
00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:59,200
Speaker 1: So I can if it's that, then it's that not

786
00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:05,439
Speaker 1: everybody has to be like so totally. I am more

787
00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:07,879
Speaker 1: puzzled now that you brought up the fact that they're

788
00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:14,400
Speaker 1: fans of the show. And now again I'm worried about um,

789
00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:17,799
Speaker 1: him just wanting to win to win, because you know

790
00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:21,040
Speaker 1: that that's been a concern of mine the past couple weeks.

791
00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:23,120
Speaker 1: And I know that he's been a fan, but like

792
00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:28,520
Speaker 1: somehow like putting it together now and like that Final

793
00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:31,399
Speaker 1: Rose is something that he's like watched for years, which

794
00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:36,560
Speaker 1: is obviously not unlike so many of us. Um, I

795
00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:38,960
Speaker 1: don't know why he's giving me f boy vibes so

796
00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:41,359
Speaker 1: much and guys, again, like I said last week, it's

797
00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:43,800
Speaker 1: not something I want to feel towards him, but I

798
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:49,600
Speaker 1: am there's like something there I can't fully trust. He

799
00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:55,239
Speaker 1: his dad did say something on Instagram or on Facebook

800
00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:57,840
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago. This just came out, you know,

801
00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:02,000
Speaker 1: bachelor data. So he wrote a couple of weeks ago,

802
00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:06,560
Speaker 1: like Tino, a suitcase had more airtime than Tino did

803
00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:09,160
Speaker 1: this week. He wrote that as a Facebook status, and

804
00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:14,000
Speaker 1: he goes. I don't know who goes around recording data

805
00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:17,680
Speaker 1: like this like some nerd uh, but the data is

806
00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:20,120
Speaker 1: out there. So that just makes me feel like the

807
00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:22,799
Speaker 1: family is sort of okay. I'm totally like kind of

808
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:24,920
Speaker 1: making up a storyline and being a little dramatic here,

809
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:29,000
Speaker 1: but I'm just, you know, I'm creating a podcast, creating thoughts. Okay,

810
00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:32,160
Speaker 1: what if like they really just were obsessed with having

811
00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:34,399
Speaker 1: Tino get as much airtime as possible, and maybe them

812
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:36,920
Speaker 1: being fans that kind of knew how to ruffle feathers

813
00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:40,000
Speaker 1: and to get some good airtime on a hometown. I

814
00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:43,239
Speaker 1: don't know. I'm telling you, I know that that's true.

815
00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:46,240
Speaker 1: I don't even think that's true. I'm just saying things now. Well,

816
00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:48,239
Speaker 1: here's what we do know. We know they're fans of

817
00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:50,960
Speaker 1: the show. Before Tina went on, there's been videos of

818
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:55,120
Speaker 1: them watching it together, which to me is confusing on

819
00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:57,360
Speaker 1: why then the reaction was the way it was about

820
00:45:57,400 --> 00:45:59,680
Speaker 1: how upset they were that they were at this place.

821
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:02,920
Speaker 1: I don't know behind the scenes, and and none of

822
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:04,600
Speaker 1: us do. But like as she said, she was creating

823
00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:07,640
Speaker 1: a thought, this is what's going through her mind as

824
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:11,520
Speaker 1: she is playing back kind of what what just happened

825
00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:15,200
Speaker 1: during this episode, but it is confusing for me. This

826
00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:18,799
Speaker 1: was definitely not the hometown date that either Rachel or

827
00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:21,960
Speaker 1: Tina wanted. And then it also seems like it wasn't

828
00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:24,440
Speaker 1: like the family to even won a hometown date, like

829
00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:25,920
Speaker 1: for Tina to show up and be like, hey, I'm

830
00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:28,959
Speaker 1: really into this person. Like they were against it before

831
00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:31,560
Speaker 1: you even walked in. It felt like and I mean

832
00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:35,200
Speaker 1: my parents were, you know, super weirded out that I was,

833
00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:39,200
Speaker 1: you know, claiming that this was gonna be you know,

834
00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:42,239
Speaker 1: my my partner after the show, and that I was

835
00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:45,920
Speaker 1: bringing these girls to meet them, and but you know,

836
00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:47,680
Speaker 1: they were weird out by I don't think they enjoyed

837
00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:51,000
Speaker 1: the idea of it. Obviously today they don't. They still

838
00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:54,719
Speaker 1: they don't enjoy the idea of it. But um, they

839
00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:58,120
Speaker 1: at least like gave the space to be open to

840
00:46:58,200 --> 00:47:00,560
Speaker 1: it because they knew that's what I was doing and

841
00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:02,200
Speaker 1: they trust me with that. And I felt like here

842
00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:03,759
Speaker 1: they just weren't into it. And I don't know what

843
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:07,080
Speaker 1: of a date that you had with Jojo and her brothers.

844
00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:11,120
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, probably, yeah, probably. I probably had a little

845
00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:13,279
Speaker 1: bit of a bad memories from that Yeah, now you're right,

846
00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:15,359
Speaker 1: it did. And it's just a weird environment to sit

847
00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:17,200
Speaker 1: in where you're like, I don't know how to explain

848
00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:19,840
Speaker 1: to you, you know, why we're sitting in front of

849
00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:21,279
Speaker 1: you today, and then the fact that we're into each

850
00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:23,600
Speaker 1: other and we're trying to figure this out. I don't

851
00:47:23,600 --> 00:47:27,319
Speaker 1: know how to I can't like explain away the show.

852
00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:28,800
Speaker 1: I can't tell you it's gonna work or it's not

853
00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:30,440
Speaker 1: gonna work. And so I don't know what kind of

854
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:33,120
Speaker 1: answers you're hoping from me today, Like I I don't

855
00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:34,840
Speaker 1: know how to give you answers without just telling you

856
00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:38,440
Speaker 1: a bunch of fluffy things that sound nice and get

857
00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:41,360
Speaker 1: us through this evening. But yeah, putting me in a

858
00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:44,480
Speaker 1: corner doesn't help. That's kind of how I felt, um,

859
00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:46,319
Speaker 1: and I think that's how I felt watching it. Was

860
00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:49,080
Speaker 1: you know, Rachel's getting there being like, hey, I'm really

861
00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:51,920
Speaker 1: into this guy and I potentially want to like be

862
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:55,120
Speaker 1: engaged this man, and by the way his family has

863
00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:57,560
Speaker 1: uh definitely made it clear not into it. I don't

864
00:47:57,560 --> 00:48:01,160
Speaker 1: know if that's how you want anybody to leave. Well,

865
00:48:01,160 --> 00:48:06,120
Speaker 1: Tino seemed to like, You're like, no, everything's fine, and

866
00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:09,200
Speaker 1: she was like, no, no, no, that was weird to me. Yeah,

867
00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:10,920
Speaker 1: that was weird to me that he tried to do that.

868
00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:13,680
Speaker 1: I mean that was like I think he was trying

869
00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:16,520
Speaker 1: to save face and trying to make it like so

870
00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:19,440
Speaker 1: he slept better than night. But yeah, that was a weird.

871
00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:21,799
Speaker 1: I mean, if that's how they show like their love

872
00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:25,120
Speaker 1: and support, then I would have other questions. Yeah, I

873
00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:27,239
Speaker 1: don't know. The more I think about this, the more

874
00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:31,200
Speaker 1: I'm thinking these people love the show. Maybe they talked

875
00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:35,200
Speaker 1: to producers beforehand. Producers they were like, you know, put

876
00:48:35,239 --> 00:48:38,200
Speaker 1: some ideas in their head and then they're like, yeah,

877
00:48:38,320 --> 00:48:43,160
Speaker 1: let's roll of this. Oh goodness, I hope not well.

878
00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:46,960
Speaker 1: Next week we get Avan's hometown date. In the mentel all,

879
00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:49,960
Speaker 1: We're looking forward to Avan's hometown date. That's all we

880
00:48:50,040 --> 00:48:52,719
Speaker 1: got for this episode as hometowns, most of them, not

881
00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:55,560
Speaker 1: all of them. Again, even is next week? Mentel all

882
00:48:55,719 --> 00:48:58,680
Speaker 1: is next week? And uh yeah, I don't know. I

883
00:48:58,719 --> 00:49:00,279
Speaker 1: mean mentel all, it feels like it's going to be

884
00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:05,000
Speaker 1: a little bit. There was no fighting here. Why even

885
00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:09,160
Speaker 1: have one skip it? Skip it? All? Right? Hey, Ashley,

886
00:49:09,719 --> 00:49:13,399
Speaker 1: we got bachelor headlines to roll ride into. Uh, we've

887
00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:17,080
Speaker 1: talked about a few of them already. Obviously, Wells and

888
00:49:17,239 --> 00:49:22,440
Speaker 1: Sarah's wedding was incredible. Um, I have some amazing stories

889
00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:24,480
Speaker 1: that at some point on this podcast I'll share from

890
00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:26,360
Speaker 1: the wedding, but I want to give Wells and Sarah

891
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:29,319
Speaker 1: the space to show and share everything they can from

892
00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:31,800
Speaker 1: their very special day before I give all the little

893
00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:34,960
Speaker 1: like details and the funny moments in between. Okay, of

894
00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:37,160
Speaker 1: the people that were there and some of the the

895
00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:40,439
Speaker 1: awkward run ins, but jessicin I did have an incredible time,

896
00:49:41,080 --> 00:49:44,120
Speaker 1: and h bachel Nation did come out to celebrate with them,

897
00:49:44,160 --> 00:49:47,840
Speaker 1: and we are excited for them as they now officially

898
00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:50,520
Speaker 1: can be a husband and wife, which had been waiting

899
00:49:50,520 --> 00:49:55,120
Speaker 1: for for years. We also, um, you know, I just

900
00:49:55,200 --> 00:49:57,480
Speaker 1: want to again say, Hey, Eric, if you ever listen

901
00:49:57,520 --> 00:50:01,239
Speaker 1: to this podcast, We're thinking about you and your family. Uh,

902
00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:05,319
Speaker 1: your dad. Uh show courage and strength and grace during

903
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:07,560
Speaker 1: this episode. It's all I've ever been able to see

904
00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:09,080
Speaker 1: of him. It's all Ashley has been able to see

905
00:50:09,080 --> 00:50:10,920
Speaker 1: of him. All a lot of us that watch the

906
00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:14,600
Speaker 1: show have ever been able to see of him. But Uh,

907
00:50:14,719 --> 00:50:18,920
Speaker 1: it was it was a special moment watching that dynamic

908
00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:21,479
Speaker 1: in that hometown. I know it carries a lot of weight.

909
00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:26,360
Speaker 1: I know. Um, it was probably hard to see over.

910
00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:30,800
Speaker 1: But your dad was a courageous man from what we saw,

911
00:50:31,080 --> 00:50:35,760
Speaker 1: and so take that for what you will. But moving

912
00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:37,480
Speaker 1: on then to the headlines, we haven't got to talk

913
00:50:37,520 --> 00:50:43,239
Speaker 1: about the bachelor. Clayton and also his his contestant, are

914
00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:51,080
Speaker 1: they engaged. His girlfriend Susie are no longer living together

915
00:50:51,160 --> 00:50:53,319
Speaker 1: and they're gonna do long distance. They're gonna live in

916
00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:56,080
Speaker 1: different states, which is not what they told us when

917
00:50:56,080 --> 00:51:02,400
Speaker 1: they were on this podcast. So this was like dramatic online,

918
00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:05,920
Speaker 1: but they claim it's not really dramatic. So they didn't

919
00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:09,680
Speaker 1: move to Virginia together. Clayton moved there for her, and

920
00:51:09,719 --> 00:51:12,880
Speaker 1: then on the podcast they alluded to being open to

921
00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:14,799
Speaker 1: moving to other places. Well, they are going to move

922
00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:19,319
Speaker 1: back to where he was living, Scottsdale, Arizona. But while

923
00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:23,680
Speaker 1: they're getting that house together, UM, they are going to

924
00:51:25,239 --> 00:51:28,400
Speaker 1: they're gonna be a little bit apart. Clayton is going

925
00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:30,880
Speaker 1: to be in Arizona and Susie is going to be

926
00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:35,800
Speaker 1: in l a. Um. They said they also are only

927
00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:41,800
Speaker 1: fifty minutes a flight apart. They're both chasing their dreams, um,

928
00:51:42,239 --> 00:51:46,040
Speaker 1: and it's a commuter, but for right now, that's going

929
00:51:46,120 --> 00:51:50,360
Speaker 1: to work for them, um, And what I read it

930
00:51:50,480 --> 00:51:55,279
Speaker 1: was mostly it was mostly about them like settling eventually

931
00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:59,040
Speaker 1: in Arizona and not so much going back and forth.

932
00:51:59,120 --> 00:52:02,399
Speaker 1: But according to this article from people, it's looking more

933
00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:09,400
Speaker 1: like it's a long term UM long distance relationship. Well,

934
00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:11,440
Speaker 1: we want them to be happy because they seem like

935
00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:14,640
Speaker 1: they're supportive and caring for each other, and so long

936
00:52:14,680 --> 00:52:17,560
Speaker 1: distance doesn't mean it's bad. I mean, my wife and

937
00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:19,160
Speaker 1: had long distance for a long time. Many of you

938
00:52:19,239 --> 00:52:22,000
Speaker 1: listening have done long distance. I don't know if it's

939
00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:23,880
Speaker 1: ideal or not ideal. It works out for us, it

940
00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:26,560
Speaker 1: works out for many, so maybe it's gonna work out

941
00:52:26,560 --> 00:52:28,799
Speaker 1: for them. But we want them happy because they seem

942
00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:31,600
Speaker 1: great together and we really like the two of them together.

943
00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:34,000
Speaker 1: They've been through the Ringer, I mean, they've been through

944
00:52:34,040 --> 00:52:39,360
Speaker 1: a lot um with each other so far. Well. Actually, uh,

945
00:52:39,440 --> 00:52:44,359
Speaker 1: the final headline today, it's really about Nate Mitchell. He's

946
00:52:44,360 --> 00:52:49,120
Speaker 1: still making headlines here even since his departure from the show.

947
00:52:50,200 --> 00:52:56,640
Speaker 1: We have articles and headlines here about people um threatening

948
00:52:56,680 --> 00:52:59,080
Speaker 1: to not watch the show if he's the batchelor. We

949
00:52:59,080 --> 00:53:01,920
Speaker 1: also have people then here saying, hey, we want him

950
00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:04,359
Speaker 1: to be the Bachelor, that this is unfair for people

951
00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:07,480
Speaker 1: to still be talking about the way you know, this

952
00:53:07,560 --> 00:53:10,759
Speaker 1: situation went down where one person on TikTok kind of

953
00:53:10,800 --> 00:53:14,440
Speaker 1: said that they're dating or Nate and he didn't tell

954
00:53:14,480 --> 00:53:16,799
Speaker 1: about his daughter and then he's all dating other people

955
00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:18,920
Speaker 1: at the same time. He has a quote for it,

956
00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:21,000
Speaker 1: and uh, and you can break down anything I didn't say.

957
00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:24,040
Speaker 1: They're actually he said the reason that you know people

958
00:53:24,200 --> 00:53:26,640
Speaker 1: didn't meet his daughters because you have to get through

959
00:53:26,719 --> 00:53:29,560
Speaker 1: a king to get to the queen. Is a quote

960
00:53:29,560 --> 00:53:34,600
Speaker 1: from Nate Mitchell about this situation. Mm hmmm. And he

961
00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:39,640
Speaker 1: said this message to Will Smith's just the two of us.

962
00:53:40,239 --> 00:53:43,320
Speaker 1: Um it was pictures and um them daughter and and

963
00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:50,000
Speaker 1: and father in front of Cinderella's castle and uh yeah,

964
00:53:50,280 --> 00:53:53,200
Speaker 1: just basically denying the fact that Nate ever cheated on

965
00:53:53,200 --> 00:53:57,800
Speaker 1: the girl who we discussed last week. Um. She claims.

966
00:53:57,880 --> 00:54:02,719
Speaker 1: His ex claims uts he was deeming another girl during

967
00:54:02,760 --> 00:54:06,840
Speaker 1: the relationship and that she learned about him having a

968
00:54:07,160 --> 00:54:11,000
Speaker 1: daughter on TV even though they dated for a year

969
00:54:11,040 --> 00:54:15,200
Speaker 1: and a half, that it's obviously a big deal. Um,

970
00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:19,480
Speaker 1: but people are people are rallying to make him not

971
00:54:19,600 --> 00:54:21,759
Speaker 1: the Bachelor. People really don't want him to be the

972
00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:25,319
Speaker 1: Bachelor after all these rumors. Just a little tidbit here,

973
00:54:26,320 --> 00:54:31,960
Speaker 1: Dustin Kennan, you know Peter Webber's bestie. He is longtime

974
00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:34,400
Speaker 1: friends with Nate. And he says, first off, let me

975
00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:38,600
Speaker 1: say this is not an angel. He's not a perfect guy. Um.

976
00:54:38,640 --> 00:54:41,360
Speaker 1: But I feel like you don't go and try to

977
00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:44,600
Speaker 1: tarnish someone's name because a relationship didn't work out. It

978
00:54:44,640 --> 00:54:48,879
Speaker 1: seems childish to me. So who knows whatever happened there.

979
00:54:49,000 --> 00:54:53,400
Speaker 1: But I would say that this is enough speculation in

980
00:54:53,440 --> 00:54:57,120
Speaker 1: the hardcore bachelor community, you know, the people that spend

981
00:54:57,120 --> 00:54:59,400
Speaker 1: a lot of time talking about and researching on the internet,

982
00:54:59,560 --> 00:55:05,400
Speaker 1: that he won't be the next Bachelor. Um. And because

983
00:55:05,440 --> 00:55:08,240
Speaker 1: of that, because he seemed to be a front runner

984
00:55:08,320 --> 00:55:11,960
Speaker 1: for next Bachelor with this cast of guys, people are

985
00:55:11,960 --> 00:55:15,319
Speaker 1: starting to think that Greg Rippo I'd be the next.

986
00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:17,959
Speaker 1: This guy's name is just gonna keep popping up until

987
00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:20,040
Speaker 1: they make him the Bachelor. He's just got a lot

988
00:55:20,080 --> 00:55:22,840
Speaker 1: of fans support behind him. Yeah, I saw that. I

989
00:55:22,880 --> 00:55:26,120
Speaker 1: want to be shocked. I want to be surprised he'd be.

990
00:55:26,200 --> 00:55:27,840
Speaker 1: You know, if somebody said and we'll do an episode

991
00:55:27,840 --> 00:55:29,160
Speaker 1: where you kind of break down who do we think

992
00:55:29,200 --> 00:55:33,000
Speaker 1: will be the next Bachelor? He probably at He would

993
00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:34,319
Speaker 1: be at the top of my listen who I think

994
00:55:34,400 --> 00:55:36,239
Speaker 1: could be it? But there's some others out there as

995
00:55:36,280 --> 00:55:41,120
Speaker 1: well well. Ashley. Uh final little headline, I guess just

996
00:55:41,160 --> 00:55:44,160
Speaker 1: to say not Bachelor Nation affiliated. But j Lo and

997
00:55:44,160 --> 00:55:50,680
Speaker 1: Ben Affley got married. I'm very passionate about this. I

998
00:55:50,719 --> 00:55:53,600
Speaker 1: love those two together so so much. I love this

999
00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:57,240
Speaker 1: look at him. He's rolling his eyes at me. I'm sorry,

1000
00:55:57,239 --> 00:56:00,200
Speaker 1: but they're like two of my favorites separately and even

1001
00:56:00,239 --> 00:56:03,399
Speaker 1: better together. Jared and I feel like we would be

1002
00:56:03,400 --> 00:56:05,719
Speaker 1: best friends with Ben Affleck. He has a lot of

1003
00:56:05,760 --> 00:56:08,960
Speaker 1: similar interests in His passion for all the things that

1004
00:56:09,000 --> 00:56:13,319
Speaker 1: he's interested in really really hits our heart. We really

1005
00:56:13,360 --> 00:56:17,000
Speaker 1: support Ben. We've loved this relationship back twenty years ago,

1006
00:56:17,360 --> 00:56:21,879
Speaker 1: and we're very excited when it re reignited last year.

1007
00:56:22,600 --> 00:56:25,160
Speaker 1: I haven't seen any pictures yet. I feel like Jello's

1008
00:56:25,440 --> 00:56:29,040
Speaker 1: dress pictures aren't out there, the actual seremony pictures aren't

1009
00:56:29,040 --> 00:56:33,920
Speaker 1: out there, truly. I found their Vegas wedding more thrilling

1010
00:56:34,160 --> 00:56:36,120
Speaker 1: than the big elaborate wedding because it was a little

1011
00:56:36,160 --> 00:56:39,760
Speaker 1: less expected. But either way, I think this is happy

1012
00:56:39,760 --> 00:56:41,960
Speaker 1: news and I think it's a really cool story. I

1013
00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:45,959
Speaker 1: just hope it lasts. You know, two huge personalities we'll see.

1014
00:56:46,239 --> 00:56:47,960
Speaker 1: I hope this is this podcast, and I hope they

1015
00:56:47,960 --> 00:56:50,480
Speaker 1: know that we're both of fen and we were invited

1016
00:56:50,760 --> 00:56:53,440
Speaker 1: to their wedding. Hey, Ashley, that's all we got for

1017
00:56:53,480 --> 00:56:56,800
Speaker 1: everybody today. We'll be back next week breaking down Avan's

1018
00:56:56,840 --> 00:56:59,520
Speaker 1: hometown day and the Mente law and everything good happening

1019
00:56:59,520 --> 00:57:02,080
Speaker 1: in Bachelor Nation and also what's happening in our lives.

1020
00:57:02,280 --> 00:57:03,560
Speaker 1: I think at that point I'll be able to give

1021
00:57:03,600 --> 00:57:05,759
Speaker 1: some more funny details a couple of funny stories from

1022
00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:08,560
Speaker 1: the Wells and sarah wedding. But it was it was

1023
00:57:08,640 --> 00:57:12,120
Speaker 1: special again. Congratulations to the two of them. Congratulations to

1024
00:57:12,239 --> 00:57:17,120
Speaker 1: Ben affleck In Jennifer Lopez on their wedding. Until next time,

1025
00:57:17,160 --> 00:57:20,800
Speaker 1: I've been been I've been followed the Ben and Ashley

1026
00:57:20,840 --> 00:57:24,600
Speaker 1: I Almost Famous podcast on iHeart Radio or subscribe wherever

1027
00:57:24,720 --> 00:57:25,880
Speaker 1: you listen to podcasts.