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Speaker 1: If this is the time you normally listen to the show.

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Speaker 3: We've had a guest twice this week by the name

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Speaker 3: of Rebecca Peterson. She's the woman that got sexually assaulted

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Speaker 1: He pulled up her dress, she fell to the ground.

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Speaker 1: He got scared off. Apparently pepper spray was involved.

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Speaker 3: Ellie County DA says, Hey, this demeanor we learned from Rebecca,

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Speaker 3: that looks like it's going to be upgraded to a felony.

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Speaker 3: She's not able to speak right now, but we hope

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Speaker 3: with what she says they're going to do. But speaking

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Speaker 3: to talk to the Riverside County District Attorney, Mike Hestron,

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Speaker 3: because on the fentanyl front, his office is doing something.

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Speaker 3: In fact, what we now have is the state's first

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Speaker 3: jury conviction of a fentanyl related homicide, and today a

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Speaker 3: temecular man who gave this pill to a twenty six

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Speaker 3: first California jury conviction of a fentanyl related homicide. We

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Speaker 3: spent a lot of time on this with the trouble

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Speaker 3: that give other people pills lace with fentanyl. So let's

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Speaker 3: bring on Mike Hestron and talk about this big case. Mike,

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Speaker 3: how are you.

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Speaker 4: I'm good, Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 1: All right, tell us the main details of the case.

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Speaker 4: All right, So, just as you mentioned, Vincent Romero was

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Speaker 4: convicted back in August of second degree murder for furnishing

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Speaker 4: fentanyl to Kelsey King. Kelsey King was twenty six years old.

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Speaker 4: She died June sixteenth, twenty twenty. What he did in

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Speaker 4: He had experience with feentanyl. He takes out a fentanyl pill,

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Speaker 4: That's really the crime in a nutshell. That what distinguishes it,

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Speaker 4: He understood subjectively the dangers. He still chose to give

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Speaker 3: Was it complicated it all by the fact that she

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Speaker 4: Well, she said I have never taken fetanyl and he

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Speaker 4: So it is complicated by it, but it doesn't relieve

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Speaker 4: the defendant of what he did. He furnished fetanyl knowing

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Speaker 4: They they know that knowledge. They have that knowledge subjectively.

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Speaker 4: That's murder. And it's very similar to what happened in

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Speaker 1: Okay, and so that helped you prove yes, his intentional

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Speaker 3: Now, so he's getting twenty five years to life, I

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it is a life sentence. So he's

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Speaker 4: the main is the main charge. Now, you made a sentence.

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Speaker 1: You know, some legislators have been trying to get a

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Speaker 4: So what was that up was a bill up in Sacramento.

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Speaker 4: What was being discussed is not a second time prosecution.

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Speaker 4: It was that that if somebody is convicted of selling fentanyl,

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Speaker 4: So that you know, if and when they ever did

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Speaker 4: That's what was floating around Sacramento. So the way we

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Speaker 1: Right. So in the proposed state law, once they've been

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Speaker 4: That's right, And that's what we have in the fentanyl

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Speaker 4: I mean in the dui context. Right, So if you

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what's frustrating is we have a template here

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Speaker 2: If you've been warned about drunk driving once, the second

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Speaker 2: And it should be the same thing for fentanyl. And

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Speaker 4: They won't do it. They won't do it. They don't

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Speaker 1: Do you have other cases like this in the pipeline?

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Speaker 4: We have twenty five pending second degree murder cases based

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Speaker 3: Yes, it says you're fourteen hundred fentanyl related death in

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean we're getting we're getting five hundred or

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Speaker 1: This hasn't scared people from taking random bills from random strangers.

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Speaker 4: Well, I mean, you know, I think if they know

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Speaker 4: I hope that we get there with fentanyl. And I

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Speaker 1: Yeah. And you know, obviously, Mike, the other side in

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Speaker 1: Sacramento doesn't want to go this route prosecuting people. They

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Speaker 1: want to use education, They want to write people with drugs.

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Speaker 1: They want to keep people out of prison at all costs.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I know, I know, but you know, they can't

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Speaker 4: deny the death toll, and they're going to have to

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Speaker 4: face the reality. The problem with Sacramento is they live

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Speaker 4: It's an absolute scourge across our country. And the folks

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Speaker 1: I can't believe fourteen hundred in three years. That is shocking.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, good job by you and your entire office. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: thanks for coming on and sharing the story with us.

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Speaker 4: Thank you. I appreciate the time.

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Speaker 3: All Right, Riverside County District Attorney Mike Castren, And what

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Speaker 3: we're talking about is that a Teeka, a guy who

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Speaker 3: gave a pill lace with fentanyl to a twenty six

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Speaker 3: fifteen years to life in prison. It's the state's first

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Speaker 3: jury conviction of a fentanyl related homicide. And it's too

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Speaker 3: bad that not every DA in the state is doing

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Speaker 3: cases like this because fentanyl is quite different and so

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Speaker 3: deadly that we need to take this kind of aggressive

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Speaker 2: Get this story. This happened in Virginia, Laden County they

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Speaker 2: issued a press release. In one high school in Ladden County, Virginia,

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Speaker 2: seven opioid overdoses in three weeks among the students in

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Speaker 3: All right, we're good to now visits with the Moistline people.

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Speaker 6: Hey, this is John and this is again. We're so

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Speaker 7: It's about time. Every time you report on crying in

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Speaker 8: I own a couple of high performance cars, and.

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Speaker 9: It's known amongst the car community never speed on Moholland

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Speaker 9: Traffic LIFs don't work.

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Speaker 10: It's hilarious how only point zero four percent of the

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Speaker 11: All those empty office buildings could be retrofitted to be

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Speaker 10: Don't have little offices.

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Speaker 13: It doesn't need to be fancy, and it could be

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Speaker 14: John, you bad boy. Please Debra alone.

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Speaker 13: If she wants to eat grass and all kinds of

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Speaker 10: Judge of Oh Boomer, John un Fortunately, you are wrong

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Speaker 10: about a lot of the work from home solutions. They

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Speaker 6: I can't stand it if he only want to pass

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Speaker 13: Remember, when you're convicted of a crime and receive the

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Speaker 13: That's why there's so much dragout of that sentence. Either

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Speaker 8: When you see a homeless guy yelling at apparently no one,

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Speaker 4: They're still raising the prices on everything you're paying for,

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Speaker 15: It has nothing to do with how much they pay

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Speaker 6: It's greed.

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Speaker 14: We need to thank that little Chinese kid the newsom

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Speaker 1: Over the world. And thankfully that.

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Speaker 8: Footage looks so bad that they all.

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Speaker 14: Saw him and are probably going, there's no way we

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Speaker 10: What kind of is that?

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Speaker 16: On the opening a Wednesday show Vegan Day, I kind

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Speaker 16: that loser Raider head coach. Well, okay, let little Debbie have.

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Speaker 17: Her dam mcam. All those you describing John and Ken,

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Speaker 17: Yeah you know who.

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Speaker 18: That involves a lot of people.

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Speaker 17: Yeah, there's only I mean, because they ain't trying to

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Speaker 19: First funny to deep take with you and Deborah Devora's

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Speaker 9: Well regular burger, no cheese, the fries.

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Speaker 6: You know, coke twenty five dollars at some places.

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Speaker 1: What the hell you need inflation?

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Speaker 7: Comass the apartheid over there.

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Speaker 8: They haven't had a free election since two thousand and six.

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Speaker 14: I guess you quit picking on Deborah Mark even though

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Speaker 6: He is a very lovely jacket.

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Speaker 20: The green coat, the vegan green coat.

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Speaker 3: You know, I thought of this morning with that green

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Speaker 3: some kind of there. You could be on one of

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Speaker 3: those shows, the Real Housewives of the San Fernando Batley.

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Speaker 1: One listener shot thought you looked like a mafia wife.

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Speaker 20: Yeah, that was funny, that was a common Is.

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Speaker 1: That a mafia color? Green? The Italian flag is green.

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Speaker 11: It's the big it's the big faue for a collar

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Speaker 3: It just I think you made a statement though by

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Speaker 20: I just happened to love green.

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Speaker 1: Green is money.

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Speaker 11: I mean that cokeit honestly, it came in orange and bright,

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Speaker 3: Green is also like peace soup and she loves he

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Speaker 3: likes pea soup too, lentil soup and lovely.

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Speaker 10: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Well, of course that was the the interruption a couple

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Speaker 1: of days ago for World Vegan Day, and that's I

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Speaker 20: That was my favorite day.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you pulled up the move of Zella's for there.

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Speaker 1: I guess I confused that guy. I thought there was

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Speaker 2: I thought there was something really goold Ken that was brilliant.

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Speaker 1: Eric's the one that found the move ze. Yeah.

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Speaker 21: Ken texted me saying play the music at the Stome.

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Speaker 21: Oh of course, I had no idea what it was

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Speaker 3: I do this also because I know people are going

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Speaker 3: it's two sides to this, and John gets worked.

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Speaker 1: Up to sure. Yeah, I need to hear another another.

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Speaker 1: So you should have for World Vegan Day, just eaten

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Speaker 21: What about the guy who called and said he made

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Speaker 1: That's a good one. And I didn't understand FEMA cam.

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Speaker 1: What was that called? Was about some of the homeless

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Speaker 3: No, there's people that believe that there were FEMA camps

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Speaker 3: to detain us all for everything the coverment takes over.

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Speaker 1: He may have been intoxicated, but we don't know.

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Speaker 3: Just to tad all right, we'll get more of those

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Speaker 1: But when we come back. Oh dear, no literally, Oh dear.

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Speaker 3: Johnny Ken caf I AM six forty live everywhere, iHeartRadio app.

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Speaker 5: You're listening to John and Ken on demand from KFI

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Speaker 2: Forty around the radio one till four, then after four

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Speaker 2: be quick. The Chinese president Jijong Ping is coming to

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they're having the APEC conference, that's Asian Pacific Economic Conference.

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Speaker 2: Right, So Chinese media outlets are running video of a

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Speaker 2: In fact, this is great. There there's two guys wrestling

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Speaker 3: Damn Chinese trying to make our beautiful San Francisco look ugly.

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Speaker 1: Come on, so they're running this piece on Chinese TV

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Speaker 1: calling San Francisco a total failure because they're communist John

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Speaker 1: I don't tell who's charged. What's wrong.

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Speaker 2: You're not gonna find this in Beijing. How long do

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Speaker 1: With this scene. Oh, I can't get over the guy

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Speaker 15: All right.

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Speaker 3: We're now going to revisit a story we talked about

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Speaker 3: And this is that story that's riled people up that

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Speaker 1: To shoot him dead. You like this debor the CAF story?

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Speaker 1: Hold on? This is sid Garcia, ABC seven.

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Speaker 22: The Catalina Island Conservancy, Yes to its there are two

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Speaker 23: Nobody, especially me, I don't want to kill animals, but

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Speaker 23: unique wildlife and plant species can thrive and make sure

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Speaker 23: the deer stop suffering.

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Speaker 18: Doctor Denhard showed us this enclosed area that's been allowed

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Speaker 18: to grow naturally without any threats from the deer, allowing

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Speaker 18: the vegetation you see here to spread throughout the island. Again,

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Speaker 18: Doctor Denhard says this will help reduce seeing fire threats.

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Speaker 23: Fire is an actual part of these ecosystems. But when

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Speaker 23: you don't have this and you have deer present, what

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Speaker 23: you have is a lot more of.

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Speaker 4: These invasive annual.

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Speaker 23: Grasses, and these cause much more frequent fires versus this.

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Speaker 23: And you can intuitively see this like if I were

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Speaker 23: to take a lighter and put it to this, this

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Speaker 23: would start on fire immediately, whereas this that's not going

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Speaker 23: to catch.

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Speaker 22: There are those who oppose the method being used to

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Speaker 22: remove the deer. End are against getting rid of the

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Speaker 22: entire deer population.

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Speaker 12: I understand their restoration plan, and we applaud what the

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Speaker 12: Conservancy is doing, but we do not feel that removing

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Speaker 12: every single deer from this island. They've been here for

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Speaker 12: one hundred years, we do not see that as a

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Speaker 12: necessary step to take.

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Speaker 24: While the permit process continues, the folks with the Humane

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Speaker 24: Society and locals are hoping they can work with the

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Speaker 24: Conservancy on a different way than decrase the deer population here.

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Speaker 3: That's ABC seven and reporters Sid Garcia, And you heard

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Speaker 3: the woman in there from the conservation the organization saying

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Speaker 3: that she believes this is the only the only approach

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Speaker 3: that they can take. You can't ship them off the island,

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Speaker 3: you can't administer birth control. What we're trying to do

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Speaker 3: is make this a resilient place. And she was illustrating

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Speaker 3: with the grasses the danger here in that an area

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Speaker 3: where they kept the deer out, the grass that grows

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Speaker 3: is resilient to fire versus the ordinary grasses that burn easily.

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Speaker 3: I mean, they've had some terrible, terrible fires on Catalina.

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Speaker 3: That's supposed to be part of this, the damage that

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Speaker 3: the deer doing. In case you don't know the story,

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Speaker 3: they've been there about one hundred years because I think

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Speaker 3: a movie shoot came there and brought some deer for

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Speaker 3: the shoot.

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Speaker 1: Then well, you.

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Speaker 2: Know, they're not native, and they're not useful. They're destructive.

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Speaker 2: You know, they lead to aut of control fires.

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Speaker 11: So it's not their fault that they were brought there

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Speaker 11: in the first place. So why do they have to

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Speaker 11: suffer the consequences?

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Speaker 1: I don't know why they can't. You're like, remove them

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Speaker 1: and take them to some sanctuary far away exactly.

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Speaker 20: That makes the most sense.

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Speaker 3: How many of them are there? Yeah, I'm not sure

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Speaker 3: how many there are. This is called a mule deer,

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Speaker 3: but they might be. They can't be in more than

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Speaker 3: one hundreds. They can be in the thousands. It can't

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Speaker 3: be that many.

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Speaker 1: Put them on a big boat.

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Speaker 11: That's right, The Catalina Express do it a few times

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Speaker 11: a day every day.

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Speaker 25: How do you lure them all on the boats?

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Speaker 14: No?

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Speaker 1: Did it?

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Speaker 6: You know?

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Speaker 3: If you could administer birth control to a couple of them,

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Speaker 3: you could leave them there and then take the rest.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, I mean, and then how would they multiply?

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Speaker 1: That's the problem. Animals can multiply at incredible rates. Sometimes

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Speaker 1: there's two thousand of them. There's two thousands. You're going

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Speaker 1: to need a big boat.

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Speaker 11: You can just put them on numerous boats, like I said, seriously,

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Speaker 11: the Catalina Express, right, put.

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Speaker 20: Them on there and the ferry. Yeah, just bury them.

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Speaker 1: I mean, what are we really losing here? How many

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Speaker 1: years doll.

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Speaker 20: That doesn't matter? It does, Oh, it does not.

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Speaker 1: I'm nine to eleven years, nine to eleven years longer

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Speaker 1: than I thought. It's like a twenty or more. If

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Speaker 1: they're in captivity, this is probably. These are probably And

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Speaker 1: in case you thought of this, they have no natural

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Speaker 1: predators on the island, So that's they're not going to

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Speaker 1: be taken out by that, right. So ah, so you

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Speaker 1: get a couple of mountain lions then and put them here.

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Speaker 1: Here's what they said, introduce predators with a couple of

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Speaker 1: that'd be entertaining, and the mountain lions will kill everybody.

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Speaker 3: It says here approach to capture the deer and relocate

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Speaker 3: them to ano other areas where they may not cause

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Speaker 3: as much harm to the ecosystem. The process of capturing

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Speaker 3: and relocating deer can be very stressful for the animals.

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Speaker 3: It can lead to capture myopathy, in which the deer

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Speaker 3: becomes so stressed that they die from the stress of capture.

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Speaker 1: Do the hit me in hard films?

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Speaker 11: Okay, well you know what, then that's more natural than just,

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Speaker 11: you know, shooting them. So I would say, let's take

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Speaker 11: our chances.

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Speaker 1: You don't care if animals, No, I do.

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Speaker 11: But what I'm saying is if I had to make

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Speaker 11: a choice, okay, because not all of them are going

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Speaker 11: to get stressed, We're trying to do a good thing

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Speaker 11: by shipping them off to an animal sanctuary, and so

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Speaker 11: if they get stressed out, maybe only.

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Speaker 10: Want to shoot.

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Speaker 2: Care is how they die? Because she's like this about

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Speaker 2: like chickens. She knows the chickens are all going to

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Speaker 2: die for people's dinners. You just want them in a word, whether.

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Speaker 11: They have more room while they are living their their

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Speaker 11: lives waiting to be murdered, so that they have more

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Speaker 11: room to spread their wings and live peacefully as much

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Speaker 11: as possible.

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Speaker 20: Until that day come.

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Speaker 3: They had this charge of dear removal methods, right, and

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Speaker 3: the only one that got really good grades was the helicopters.

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Speaker 3: So that's the guy shooting and fencing hunting, which would

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Speaker 3: just be guys on the ground, predators, relocation and sterilization.

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Speaker 1: They are, I don't know, two thousands of them. That's

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Speaker 1: that's stuff to deal.

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Speaker 11: Oh, come on, it really isn't It's not that bad.

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Speaker 11: We're not talking twenty thousand.

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Speaker 20: We're talking.

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Speaker 3: Well, I think you could organize people to get that

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Speaker 3: big ferry boat you're talking about, go over there and

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Speaker 3: try to take those thousands of deer off the island.

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Speaker 11: And why don't we go and do a remote there

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Speaker 11: on Kavalina and then talk to the deer and talk

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Speaker 11: to the deer and help them get on these boats.

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Speaker 11: They don't stress out right, We'll oh, I'd be very cander. Yes,

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Speaker 11: we'll comfort them. They'll will be their their service humans.

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Speaker 1: She works hard. You started this. We'll be back.

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Speaker 5: You're listening to John and Ken on demand from KFI

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Speaker 5: AM six forty.

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Speaker 3: All right, time to go, but before we do, we

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Speaker 3: want to play the Moistline Round two. Leave your messages

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Speaker 3: dial up the old toll free number one eight seven

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Speaker 3: seven moist eighty six.

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Speaker 1: Hey, this is John this again.

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Speaker 6: We're so excited to hear from you.

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Speaker 1: It's about time.

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Speaker 26: Anything else you don't know about Jerry Brown. While he

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Speaker 26: was in the office in the seventies, he stopped all

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Speaker 26: the waterway improvements and the reservoirs because his thought was,

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Speaker 26: I don't want more people coming to California, so we're

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Speaker 26: not going to increase the water supply.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure you didn't know that.

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Speaker 9: Now I've heard it all.

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Speaker 8: They're going to change the name of birds because it

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Speaker 8: offends somebody.

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Speaker 7: Come on, I like robbins, I like cardinals.

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Speaker 8: It's a waste of your time.

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Speaker 7: To change the names of birds. There are so many

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Speaker 7: more important things that should be discussed and changed.

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Speaker 17: My God, pull your head out of your twenty dollars

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Speaker 17: hour minimum wage.

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Speaker 10: How about you get some agency for your own life.

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Speaker 12: Let's make minimum wage when it should be zero.

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Speaker 10: You're not making enough money, get another job, or go

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Speaker 10: somewhere where.

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Speaker 2: They've pay for you.

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Speaker 22: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: If people want to make you about.

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Speaker 9: Almost people that we're in a freeway, did they.

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Speaker 2: Ever look at like the fifteen or like the freeways

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Speaker 2: out in.

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Speaker 6: Febrynos you have out of they are and wonder.

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Speaker 15: Why they crowded because people can't afford to limit the

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Speaker 15: big stupid idiots.

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Speaker 9: So one of my customers is the Farmer Boys chain

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Speaker 9: of restaurants. I've already spoken to several franchisees. They're either

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Speaker 9: going to sell, close their doors, fire, or layoffs hundreds,

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Speaker 9: maybe thousands of employees, replace them with kiosks and automated equipment.

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Speaker 9: There will be no fast food jobs for teenagers looking

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Speaker 9: for work during the summer.

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Speaker 6: It is over. The gair farm buildings are eighty percent empty.

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Speaker 10: Yet we can't find out where to.

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Speaker 21: Put all the homeless and the bigness.

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Speaker 6: How does that work?

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Speaker 27: You're talking about the pedophile parked watching kids at the school.

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Speaker 27: I'm sure the city police department.

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Speaker 15: As a civilian, we used.

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Speaker 27: To call them traffic controllers could pull up and park

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Speaker 27: right next to his passenger door and just sit there

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Speaker 27: doing her paper, doing its paperwork or whatever, and that

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Speaker 27: would solve the problem. He'd get tired of just looking

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Speaker 27: at the civilian in a police car.

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Speaker 7: When is Mayor Bass going to reset crosswalk lights? Pre

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Speaker 7: COVID times when they only turned green when the rocks

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Speaker 7: of pedestrians wanting to walk. I'm sick and tired of

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Speaker 7: stopping at lights for phantom pedestrians.

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Speaker 1: It has to stop, seem I've.

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Speaker 28: Heard the piece about the pervert in the school laptop

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Speaker 28: and the blanket, and I.

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Speaker 15: Agree with you. I don't know where the men of

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Speaker 15: world went.

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Speaker 28: Maybe they're home plane PlayStation all day.

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Speaker 15: I'm really not sure.

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Speaker 28: But how about some off a peaceful But how about

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Speaker 28: if they just issued parking permits for people to only

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Speaker 28: park in that parking lot or even on the street.

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Speaker 28: I've seen that done before, and then at least the

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Speaker 28: police can maybe enforce it.

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Speaker 19: Have the city put up a no parking sign where

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Speaker 19: he parks his damn car every day, very simple, or

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Speaker 19: paint the curb ran that will get rid of him,

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Speaker 19: or they can tow him away. You're right, he's a pedophile,

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Speaker 19: and that's ridiculous.

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Speaker 15: Those law schools at the big universities, they're not going

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Speaker 15: to have to worry about recruitment because all those kids

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Speaker 15: out there demonstrating for a ham and all that, they'll

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Speaker 15: just simply get jobs with the aco.

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Speaker 13: You in the video, you can see the grin on

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Speaker 13: his face when he gets up and when he's walking

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Speaker 13: towards shirts. Doesn't this show intent?

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Speaker 27: Maybe we should see if any if these criminals.

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Speaker 9: Show up to their court date before declaring zero bail

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Speaker 9: with success.

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Speaker 4: Well, thank you for leaving your message out.

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Speaker 1: You know what other people pointed out they did that

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Speaker 1: victory dancel or a zero bail that.

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Speaker 3: You know, how do you know that you're catching the

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Speaker 3: people that got released on zero bail. They may be

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Speaker 3: out there committing crimes that you haven't caught up to

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Speaker 3: them yet. For so ninety nine percent of burglaries are unsolved.

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Speaker 3: They're unsolved, so you know, so that's just making stuff

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Speaker 3: up with statistics that are not extensive enough.

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Speaker 2: You don't have the information. Fake statistics impossible to know.

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Speaker 2: You have to use your common sense.

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Speaker 1: And a lot of those other callers are about the

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Speaker 1: Norwalk guy that's been positioned in a car with a

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Speaker 1: laptop and a blanket, pleasuring himself while he watches kids

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Speaker 1: go by from nearby school. That's everybody's afraid to confront

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Speaker 1: him and get him ejected. To keep an eye on

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Speaker 1: that story. See what happens with that creep. You know,

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Speaker 1: the guy's right. All the guys are at home playing

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Speaker 1: playing video PlayStation. Yeah yeah, they get testosterone. They can't

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Speaker 1: even dispose of a pedophile who's threatening their wives and kids. Alight,

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Speaker 1: we got Conway.

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Speaker 25: Hey. Where we are at Santa Nita Breeders Cup, the

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Speaker 25: fortieth annual Breeders Cup, and we're gonna be Atril seven o'clock.

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Speaker 25: The last race goes off in about twenty minutes, so

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Speaker 25: we've got nothing to do between four thirty and seven.

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Speaker 2: Well, there's there's there's a really enticing thing.

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Speaker 1: You should have done our show today. Yeah, oh that's right.

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Speaker 1: We should have flipped even we should have flipped to flip.

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Speaker 1: Think about that. But yeah, we'll be here.

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Speaker 25: We're at the near Clocker's Corner stretch of the what

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Speaker 25: is it called top of the stretch Top, which is

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Speaker 25: a lie. It's this room should be called closer to

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Speaker 25: Hollywood Park. I've never been this far away from the

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Speaker 25: finish line in my life.

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Speaker 1: Oh.

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Speaker 25: I don't even recogniz any of the buildings around here

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Speaker 25: or the people. Dave Lopez is coming out with us

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Speaker 25: from k COW and CBS. He's a big track guy,

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Speaker 25: big degenerate like me, and he retired to make money

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Speaker 25: at the track.

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Speaker 1: How's that going?

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Speaker 15: No good?

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Speaker 1: No good, no good? Who else would be at the track?

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Speaker 1: That's right, that's right, man. But we're gonna be here

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Speaker 1: until seven o'clock.

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Speaker 25: Petroz is gonna come by, Bob Bafford at some point,

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Speaker 25: Frank Marramonty.

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Speaker 1: Is gonna come by.

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Speaker 25: He's got he's the track announcer here, and you know

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Speaker 25: some a lot of we're.

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Speaker 1: Interview some horses for me. Oh yeah, yeah, yes, yes.

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Speaker 25: I have a ton of money on the eleven horse

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Speaker 25: the next race. So the eighth race coming up, I

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Speaker 25: have the eleven, and if the eleven wins, I'm out

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Speaker 25: of here.

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Speaker 1: What's his odds? Fifteen to one right now? So it's

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Speaker 1: a bit of a long shots to make three.

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Speaker 25: Hundred and forty dollars off a twenty dollars bet.

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Speaker 1: How much do you think you're gonna lose by the

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Speaker 1: end of the show.

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Speaker 25: Oh God, am mighty, I tell you if I if

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Speaker 25: I didn't have this Jones, I could have retired by now.

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Speaker 1: There's only one race left, John, how much could he loavee? Right?

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Speaker 19: Exactly?

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Speaker 1: That's why I'm asking. No, I'm down, I'm down a lot.

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Speaker 25: I'm down like a week solid right, yeah already?

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Speaker 1: Should we do a fundraiser?

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Speaker 25: You can hear my voice. I'm angry as hell. I

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Speaker 25: hate everybody here, all.

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Speaker 1: Right, ding dog? This is the ding Dog Day? Then

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Speaker 1: ding Dog.

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Speaker 25: Yeah, I'm not gonna do ding dongs anymore, but charge

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Speaker 25: them by the Dog.

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Speaker 2: Conway Show Live for the CAFI Newsram.

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