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Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on

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Speaker 1: Home of the Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio. Welcome

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Speaker 1: to the Drive. I'm Dale Ally here with Matt Williams.

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Speaker 1: It's a lovely, lovely Monday there in Pittsburgh certainly is

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Speaker 1: after all the rain. But maybe we're jumping right into

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Speaker 1: instead of we're skipping spring, jumping into summer. We can

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Speaker 1: only hope here least some warmer days. But the flowers

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Speaker 1: are blooming. The dogwood trees in my backyard or are

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Speaker 1: is in full bloom here. Uh man, I thought we'd

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Speaker 1: start to show off today by talking about, well what

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Speaker 1: we've been talking about the entire offseason, and that's quarterback play.

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Speaker 1: When the Steelers drafted Kenny Pickett in the first round

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Speaker 1: of the draft, Mike Tomlin was asked will he compete

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Speaker 1: for the starting job this year, and Tomlas said yes,

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Speaker 1: he'll have an off pportunity to compete for the starting job. Um.

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Speaker 1: Mitch Robinsky then came out over the weekend and said

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Speaker 1: he was told when he signed there was a good

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Speaker 1: chance to Steelers would draft a quarterback. Uh So, you know,

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Speaker 1: I think the Steelers are pretty upfront with us and

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Speaker 1: I've seen some people asking, well, why would why would

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Speaker 1: Rubinsky sign here if you know, if he knew they

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Speaker 1: were drafting a quarterback. I think you you know, people

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Speaker 1: don't understand athletic arrogance. No, right, you don't. You don't

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Speaker 1: go into this saying, well, they're gonna draft a rookie.

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Speaker 1: They're not gonna start me over the rookie. You got

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Speaker 1: an opportunity to start with. You have to look at this,

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Speaker 1: you know, realistically, Trabinski's other opportunity immediately and the Steelers

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Speaker 1: signed him pretty quickly, was with the Giants, but the

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Speaker 1: Giants were bringing him in to be the backup and

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Speaker 1: to push Daniel Jones, not to compete with Daniel Jones necessarily,

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Speaker 1: Whereas in this opportunity with the Steelers, he's gonna get

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Speaker 1: an opportunity to start. It's gonna be up to him

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Speaker 1: to see what he does with it. But the guy

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Speaker 1: trusts his talent. It's at athletic arrogance. They don't. These

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Speaker 1: guys don't go into these situations thinking well, I got

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Speaker 1: no chance, and they don't think that way. That's a

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Speaker 1: great way of putting it. You've been around many athletes.

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's true, And first off, he didn't. I'm

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Speaker 1: sure he didn't have a ton of suitors. You mentioned

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Speaker 1: the Giants so quickly there was no and so what

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Speaker 1: what I interpreted that conversation was, we might or probably

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Speaker 1: will draft a quarterback. We're gonna be upfront with you, okay,

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Speaker 1: and Mitch knows well enough that it's not gonna be

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Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence. You know, it's gonna be a weaker, you know,

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Speaker 1: not slam dunk Andrew luck type prospect when he signs,

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Speaker 1: if it's even a first rounder. I'm sure. I'm sure

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Speaker 1: his his agent was talking to everybody, you know, been

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Speaker 1: it's a combine, and you know, they know what the

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Speaker 1: quarterback class is there, not stupid. Sure, I'm sure that

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Speaker 1: they thought. I bet the Steelers know a lot Aboutkenny

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Speaker 1: Pickett and like them, and you know, I mean, so

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Speaker 1: it might be Picket. And I bet Robisky looked at

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Speaker 1: it and goes, I think I can beat out any

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Speaker 1: of these rookies. And I'm further along. I remember when

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Speaker 1: I was a dumb rookie and didn't know anything, and

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Speaker 1: I'm so much smarter now, and I have at least

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Speaker 1: as much ability as these guys, and I've been around

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Speaker 1: the league. I'll take my chances with that. And I'm

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Speaker 1: sitting here weighing. Let's say it's the Giants first Steelers,

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Speaker 1: which sounds very possible. I mean, the pros of going

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Speaker 1: to New York would be I really want to work

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Speaker 1: with my offensive coordinator from last year. There'll be more

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Speaker 1: familiarity scheme wise. But I still don't know that that's

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Speaker 1: a coaching advantage to the Giants, And by no means

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Speaker 1: do they have the organizational advantage in terms of winning

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Speaker 1: tradition what they've done, certainly the last five years. I'd

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Speaker 1: rather be with us. I'd rather be a Pittsburgh Steeler

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Speaker 1: than a New York Giant in a vacuum. You know,

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Speaker 1: they're not going to take a quarterback with one of

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Speaker 1: their first two picks, but there's a real good chance

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Speaker 1: they're taking Can a quarterback with the top ten pick

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Speaker 1: next year, and that's a that's a harder thing to

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Speaker 1: fight if you're a trabisk. Yeah, I agree. I think

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Speaker 1: through the signing period a little bit. Maybe if he

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Speaker 1: somebody like that, would have called him with a starting job.

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Speaker 1: But is that attractive? Right? Maybe he's Seattle starter right now,

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Speaker 1: into this doubting yourself. If you doubt yourself for a

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Speaker 1: minute in the NFL, you're screwed. You're doing and you

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Speaker 1: would never been the second pick overall. Yeah, and you know,

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Speaker 1: for example, that's what happened with guys like Cortes Allen. Yeah. Yes,

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Speaker 1: he'd lost his confidence. And once you lose that confidence,

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Speaker 1: you know, in a position like cornerback or quarterback, you're done. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, Austin Power is losing his mojo is not

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Speaker 1: the same, you know. I mean, And Haskins was in

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Speaker 1: the mix at that point. Rudolph was in the mix

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Speaker 1: at that point, and I think you look at those

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Speaker 1: than those two right now. Um, yeah, they made draft one,

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Speaker 1: but it's not going to be a super prospect. And

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you know this over your years,

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Speaker 1: and I'm sure it's different situation a situation, but I

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Speaker 1: always wondered when those initial contract conversations start between free

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Speaker 1: agent and team, and the free agents camp says, hey,

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Speaker 1: some teams say you don't need to know that son?

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Speaker 1: Or to some teams say they'll just be flat out honest, like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: that way. I'm always wondering how that conversation. I think

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Speaker 1: depends on who the quarterback gives too or who's asking.

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Speaker 1: You know, it is if you traded for Russell Wilson

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Speaker 1: to be a different conversation. Right So, I think you

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Speaker 1: but I also think he's going to get a very

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Speaker 1: money on it, right now. Mr Rbiski will be their

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Speaker 1: play that guy. And not every team does, you know,

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Speaker 1: not every organization does. Yeah, the players always know. And

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Speaker 1: that's part of being a quarterback, you know, part of

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Speaker 1: being a quarterback. He's you're a leader. Uh and introbiskie. Uh.

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Speaker 1: He's got fifty career starts under his belt. Even though

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Speaker 1: and he's quote unquote the most NFL ready quarterback in

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Speaker 1: day one. That the he's the most NFL ready quarterback

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Speaker 1: But the term NFL ready almost should be thrown away

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Speaker 1: and flushdown toilets because he's not NFL ready. He's the

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Speaker 1: most NFL ready, but the NFL ready no Ben Roethlisberg.

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Speaker 1: Ben Roethlisberger was an NFL ready when he came. They

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Speaker 1: had they had to completely, I don't want to say,

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Speaker 1: dumbed down the offense his rookie year, but they made

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Speaker 1: things very simple for him. They dumbed down the offense.

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Speaker 1: There's no shame in that, I mean, because he can't

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Speaker 1: in dumbing it down. I mean, none of the quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: They all proved not to be NF already, including Mac Jones,

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Speaker 1: like there's always that qualifier, right, right, all those guys

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Speaker 1: be in trouble. You know. But I've already heard people saying, um, well,

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Speaker 1: if you know, if if, if I'm sorry, if Kenny

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Speaker 1: Pickett doesn't start from week one, that was a wasted

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Speaker 1: draft pick. That's wrong. I agree. I think I think

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Speaker 1: the Texans, right Yeah, And that's just the reality of

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Speaker 1: the situation. And again, Trabisky has fifty career starts under

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Speaker 1: his belt. You know, they drafted him or they signed

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Speaker 1: him knowing a that they were going to draft a

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Speaker 1: he might be more, and he might be more. That's

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Speaker 1: why you and I like that. You know, that was

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Speaker 1: be more. So it's a good situation. I don't mean

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Speaker 1: and the burden the hand value of Rudolph is important.

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Speaker 1: I could see like if Trabinsky got hurt in the preseason,

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Speaker 1: Mason Rudolph being the opening day started because Pickett's not ready.

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Speaker 1: I don't think Rudolph can flat out win the job though,

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Speaker 1: I don't believe so. No, I don't believe so either. Yeah, Okay,

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Speaker 1: And I know people have asked me, you know, well,

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Speaker 1: why did they draft a second quarterback? Then? Why why

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Speaker 1: bring in Chrysalticon as well? Because they don't want to

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Speaker 1: spend time working with that rookie. We've talked about this before,

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Speaker 1: You know, they wanted a guy he's been on three

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Speaker 1: different He's been in three different college programs, and he

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Speaker 1: so quarterbacks don't appreciate as much as other positions. No,

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Speaker 1: or wrong. And I'm even saying that most of it's wrong.

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Speaker 1: It's just if they're telling this guy, hey, we can

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Speaker 1: beat the SMU team by dumping it down all day.

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Speaker 1: Just don't turn it over and and we go. Oh,

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Speaker 1: I watched that game and he turned down some deep throws.

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Speaker 1: He should have let go. What it was, I don't

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Speaker 1: want him. Well, you got to know these things, and

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Speaker 1: but but they wont Yeah, by the same token. And

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Speaker 1: one last thing on that, I know, like people will sit,

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Speaker 1: you know, they'll get into eleven on eleven stuff at

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Speaker 1: and all of a sudden they just break out and

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Speaker 1: run and everybody, Oh, look at you just see that

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Speaker 1: great run. Right, that's not what Yeah, that's not what

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Speaker 1: the coaching staff wanted to see. They wanted to see

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Speaker 1: him trying to fit the ball into a tight window,

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Speaker 1: not not go one progression to progression. Oh I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: take off and run because that's what he did in college.

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Speaker 1: That really didn't accomplish anything. Rather, you held the ball

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Speaker 1: for five seconds and at least go through your progressions

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Speaker 1: poorly then just tucking and run where no one's gonna

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Speaker 1: hit you. You know you're right on that too. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so it'll be interesting to watch. I'm I always look forward.

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Speaker 1: I mean, been through these things, you know, the Cordel Steward.

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Speaker 1: Uh uh, it's been a while. Was was Stewart and

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Speaker 1: Mike tom Zack and Jimmy Miller. Of course Stewart in

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Speaker 1: in uh Kent Graham. We already mentioned. I go all

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Speaker 1: the way back to you know, Bubby versus Neil, things

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Speaker 1: of that nature. So you know, the quarterback, it's it's

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Speaker 1: the position, the main position that everybody wants to see.

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Speaker 1: Everybody has opinions on it. Let it play out on

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Speaker 1: the field. It will play out on the field. The

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Speaker 1: Steelers have a good idea about how this is gonna

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Speaker 1: work out and how they want to how they want

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Speaker 1: this whole battle to take place. But they've been talking

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Speaker 1: just take him a twenty where what's our plan? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know that that was the plan. So we're gonna

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Speaker 1: take a break. He is Matt Williams and I am

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Speaker 1: Dale Lelly. You're listening to the drive here on Steelers

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Speaker 1: Nation Radio. When we come back, well, we have interesting

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Speaker 1: article here from Football Outsiders. We'll take a look at

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Speaker 1: that when we do when we do come back, right

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Speaker 1: after this