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Speaker 1: Welcome everybody to the Friday edition of the Klay Travis

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Speaker 1: en Buck Sexton Show. I want to jump right to it.

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Speaker 1: The news that many of you may have seen. We

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Speaker 1: want to bring you up to speed with all of

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Speaker 1: the latest on it. Charlie Kirk's assassin has been caught,

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Speaker 1: turned himself in in fact, and we will give you

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Speaker 1: more of those details, but the alleged assassin has been

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Speaker 1: taken into custody. We'll walk you through the timeline this

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Speaker 1: morning of how that went, some updates on law enforcement's

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Speaker 1: role in this, the family of the shooters role in this,

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Speaker 1: and the latest on who the shooter was, the profile,

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Speaker 1: the ideology behind it, and then also I think we're

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Speaker 1: going to spend a portion of the show today.

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Speaker 2: Well. First off, of course.

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Speaker 1: Continue to commemorate our friend Charlie Kirk and the incredible

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Speaker 1: work that he did. And I think, Clay, there was

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Speaker 1: never a doubt as soon as we got the horrible

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Speaker 1: news and we're able to process what had happened, there

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Speaker 1: was never a doubt that Charlie legacy, the movement, the organization,

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Speaker 1: and what he stood for would not only continue on,

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Speaker 1: but I think there is a turning point toward standing

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Speaker 1: for these principles and standing for this free speech and

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Speaker 1: elevated I mean, just going forward, everybody on the right,

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Speaker 1: everybody who believes in the Constitution, everybody believes in the

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Speaker 1: First Amendment.

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Speaker 2: It feels like we must stand.

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Speaker 1: With this legacy of Charlie Kirk, his work, what he did,

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Speaker 1: what he stood for. We also do need to address

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Speaker 1: the widespread. Widespread is the only I think way you

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Speaker 1: could describe it. It is not fringe, It is not

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Speaker 1: on the edges, on the margins. The widespread, horrific response

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Speaker 1: to this assassination of our friend Charlie Kirk from elements

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Speaker 1: of the left. People are getting fired left and right,

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Speaker 1: which they deserve. But it's just astonishing because that shows

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Speaker 1: you how utterly deranged in their politics so many everyday Americans,

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Speaker 1: as well as pundits and people with followings, and so

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Speaker 1: we'll get into all of this, but first, Clay, let's

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Speaker 1: just go through the news events this morning as they happened.

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Speaker 1: First off, President Trump was sitting on the couch at

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Speaker 1: Fox and Friends, and he gave a pretty good indication

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Speaker 1: of what was to come.

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Speaker 2: Play clip one.

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Speaker 1: Any updates on the suspect.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, can I always say I think just to protect

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Speaker 3: us all and so Fox doesn't get sued, I think

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Speaker 3: we all don't get sued and everything else. But I

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Speaker 3: think with a high degree of certainty, we have him

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Speaker 3: in custody. In custody. Everyone did a great job. We

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Speaker 3: worked with the local police, the governor. Everybody did a

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Speaker 2: Clay.

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Speaker 1: That was then confirmed later by Governor Spencer Cox of Utah.

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Speaker 1: This has cut eight saying that they do in fact

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Speaker 1: have Charlie Kirk's murderer of the assassin was in cost

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Speaker 1: that he play it.

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Speaker 2: Good morning, ladies and gentlemen, we got him.

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Speaker 4: On the evening of September eleventh, a family member of

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Speaker 4: Tyler Robinson reached out to a family friend who contacted

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Speaker 4: confessed to them or implied that he had committed the incident.

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Speaker 4: This information was relayed to the Utah County Sheriff's Office

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Speaker 4: and seen investigators at Utah Valley University. This information was

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Speaker 4: also conveyed to the FBI. Investigators reviewed additional video footage

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Speaker 4: from UVU surveillance and identified Robinson arriving on UVU campus

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Speaker 4: in a great Dodge challenger at approximately eight twenty nine

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Speaker 4: am on September tenth, in which he is observed on

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Speaker 4: video in a plain maroon T shirt, light colored shorts,

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Speaker 4: When encountered in person by investigators in Washington on September

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Speaker 4: consistent clothing with those surveillance images.

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Speaker 1: But Clay, the investigation continues about what was said by

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Speaker 1: him online, did he have any co conspirators. There's a

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Speaker 1: lot still to unpack. But the assassin is in custody

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Speaker 1: as we speak to you now, thankfully no doubt.

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Speaker 5: And we're getting more and more information about the assassin,

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Speaker 5: and we try to avoid giving a lot. I try

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Speaker 5: media coverage where they do it. Here are some of

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Speaker 5: the identifying details that I think are starting to be revealed.

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Speaker 5: Twenty two years old was to a large degree turned

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Speaker 5: in by his dad, who was a twenty seven year

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Speaker 5: law enforcement veteran. The dad, I'm seeing reports of we

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Speaker 5: The dad is saying, I'm not taking the reward. But

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Speaker 5: the question that is out out there. This is a

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Speaker 5: kid grew up in a Utah home and had a

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Speaker 5: completely normal upbringing, evidently made good grades in school, did

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Speaker 5: is part of what your book is about. Buck. Something

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Speaker 5: radicalized him. Something turned him from a kid that was

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Speaker 5: not particularly political according to his parents and those around him,

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Speaker 5: to expressing that he hated Charlie Kirk and being willing

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Speaker 5: he changed clothes. Again, if you miss the press conference,

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Speaker 5: it feels very open and shutcase his motivation. I'm not

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Speaker 5: talking about what his motivation was because there'll probably be

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Speaker 5: may never know why he did this. There were Antifa

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Speaker 5: and anti knots, the engravings on the shell casings that

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Speaker 5: he was using to kill Charlie Kirk. So he hated

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Speaker 5: Charlie Kirk. He was a far left ideologue, committed to

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Speaker 5: the bullets themselves, So we know what his motivation was.

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Speaker 5: To me, Buck, the story now is how how did

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Speaker 5: a kid in a normal middle class, upbringing, nuclear family.

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Speaker 5: How did he get radicalized to the point where he

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Speaker 5: he hated because of Charlie Kirk, this because of his

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Speaker 5: political beliefs. How did that happen? And relatively short period

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Speaker 5: then his own dad has to turn him in. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: it's it's difficult.

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Speaker 1: I can tell you from the extensive studies that have

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Speaker 1: anti gi hottist days, that poverty, things like that, they

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Speaker 1: have really no bearing on radicalization and in fact, a

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Speaker 1: lot of the worst ideological terrorists. This guy's a terrorist.

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Speaker 1: I mean, this is will use the term assassin is accurate.

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Speaker 1: Of course, the term terrorist is also accurate. This was

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Speaker 1: violence to a political end. But this is someone who

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Speaker 1: clearly when he was hearing all of the rhetoric about

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Speaker 1: how Trump is a Nazi. How fascism has descended upon America.

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Speaker 1: We could sit here and we will go through some

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Speaker 1: of where these messages and where how this narrative has

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Speaker 1: been formed, because it is important because I think Clay,

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Speaker 1: this time more than you know, more than what we've

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Speaker 2: I've never seen anything like this before. I mean, it's.

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Speaker 1: I'm seeing it all over the place, and that is

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Speaker 2: That is wait a second, hold on a minute here.

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Speaker 1: You know, with Trump, he's the president of the United States,

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Speaker 1: and the fact that and he and he was fine, right,

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Speaker 1: he was in a different he was in a different

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Speaker 1: I hope they got him. Now, that's heinous, that's heinous, right.

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Speaker 1: We saw the people that were making those kind of

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Speaker 2: And this guy, wife and kids and.

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Speaker 1: All these friends all these people who care about them,

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Speaker 1: love this person, and the worst thing possible happened. The

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Speaker 1: worst thing possible in that situation happened, which is that

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Speaker 1: Charlie's no longer with us. And there are people who

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Speaker 1: say wading through Blue Sky Clay was like going through

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Speaker 2: Of people who are aware of their actions. Though and

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Speaker 2: I recognize that, right, you know.

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Speaker 1: They are in the grips of a delusion, but they

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Speaker 1: are responsible for what they are saying. They're not seeing

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Speaker 1: pink elephants in the sky. They believe this fascism and

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Speaker 1: and and there just needs to be a reckoning.

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Speaker 5: And also just an examination. I truly believe this, and

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Speaker 5: because I hope it never happens. I think if Rachel Maddow,

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Speaker 5: Maddow as an example. Somebody that's she's.

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Speaker 1: That they they Clay, I'm not even they got this

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Speaker 5: I'm just saying, Rachel Maddowe speaks.

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Speaker 1: Of Rachel Maddo is like an old lady. Now, I

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Speaker 1: mean she's our age, that's a totally different thing.

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Speaker 5: But if she got shot on campus, I think you

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Speaker 5: This is a solid twenty five or thirty percent at

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Speaker 1: Well, let's let's unpack what they're what the story is

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Speaker 2: How do they get to this delusion?

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Speaker 1: And yeah, McClay mentioned this, and I appreciate you brought

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Speaker 1: up this is actually the title. This is the in

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Speaker 1: the title manufacturing Delusions. This is what my book was about.

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Speaker 1: This is what it's about. Radicalization of the masses of

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Speaker 1: normal people who believe crazy things. How does this There's processes,

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Speaker 1: there's tactics, there's all these things. In this case, the

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Speaker 1: storyline that was latched onto by President Biden when he

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Speaker 1: another election. If Trump wins, our democracy is over. The

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Speaker 1: Republic no longer exists. They're going to put you in camps.

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Speaker 1: They're Nazis, well, Clay, if you and I were alive

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Speaker 1: in you know, occupied Holland or something circa nineteen forty four,

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Speaker 1: if we were truly under a Nazi occupation. Now you

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Speaker 1: can say that they tell people this as just a

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Speaker 1: what they are doing is dehumanizing their political opponents in

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Speaker 2: And it's happened again and again and again. This is

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Speaker 2: not a one off. It's just the most awful recent

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Speaker 5: I think what you started to see was in the

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Speaker 5: It has been a heck of a draining, emotional week

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Speaker 5: this twenty two year old who, by all intentsive purposes,

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Speaker 5: appears buck to have been normal for much of his life.

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Speaker 5: And he gets radicalized to such an extent somewhere that

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Speaker 5: he's writing anti pro fascist and anti fascist, anti fascist

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Speaker 5: and anti anti Nazi comments on bullets that he uses

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Speaker 5: to incredibly detailed plan the assassination of Charlie Kirk. How

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Speaker 5: does that happen? How do they get again from the pathways?

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Speaker 1: And I so in the book Clay, I get into these,

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Speaker 1: I get into brainwashing. I get into is called menticide.

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Speaker 1: I get into Pavlovian conditioning. I get into isolation and

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Speaker 1: how that is used as a tool in this. I

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Speaker 1: get into fear as a tool, a tool of ideological coercion. Right,

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Speaker 1: I mean, these are all different things. I mean, and

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Speaker 1: again the book's not even out till January, but it's

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Speaker 1: just this is what my I've been looking at this

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Speaker 1: because a lot of it was driven by COVID, but

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Speaker 1: I get into the trans thing as well, and how

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Speaker 1: people who aren't trans themselves will threaten to kill people

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Speaker 1: or will kill people even because they have the wrong

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Speaker 1: idea about trans in you know, quote unquote wrong idea

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Speaker 1: that how does someone get to that point? You know,

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Speaker 1: how is someone so diluted? And this is a huge

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Speaker 1: problem in our society because these ideas can grow and

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Speaker 1: can take root to the point where they can actually

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Speaker 1: cause a societal upheaval. I mean, you saw this in

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Speaker 1: the Russian Revolution into the Soviets, and you saw this

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Speaker 1: in North Korea. And I get into some of this

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Speaker 1: where actually the crazy ideas are the mandatory ideas, and

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Speaker 1: the Democrat Party has had some instances where they have

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Speaker 1: shown us this. COVID was one of the most it

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Speaker 1: was probably the most powerful instance of it. But also

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Speaker 1: the same thing with men don't have an advantage over

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Speaker 1: women in sports and other ideas like this. Right, you

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Speaker 1: get into all of this, but it is a process

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Speaker 1: of radicalization and there is something that we have to

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Speaker 1: look at here and understand much more, much more deeply,

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Speaker 1: and in a much more cohesive way. How do we

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Speaker 1: get people off this path. It's a little bit like

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Speaker 1: getting them out of a cult. It's a little bit

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Speaker 1: like removing them from an ideological ecosystem that is self

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Speaker 1: reinforcing and actually deteriorating throughout that process.

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Speaker 2: Because as you say this, what about this young.

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Speaker 1: Man in his past, in his background would make you

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Speaker 1: think that this would But I've gone through this clay

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Speaker 1: with people that were preparing to strap a suicide vest

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Speaker 1: or we're planning to buy AK forty sevens and grenades

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Speaker 1: to go shoot up a you know, a Jewish temple

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Speaker 1: in one of the suburbs of New York. I mean,

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Speaker 1: these people are not leading up to this point. They

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Speaker 1: aren't necessarily from abusive homes, they're not impoverished.

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Speaker 2: You know, there hasn't been some.

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Speaker 1: But the ideas and the idea loop grows, and there

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Speaker 1: are those who are able to manipulate in this way.

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Speaker 1: There are those who are able to manufacture these killers through

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Speaker 1: this process, and we need to take this I mean

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Speaker 1: we're already taking it seriously, but we need to understand

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Speaker 1: that there's a tremendous urgency in this country to figure

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Speaker 1: out how we handle this because it's going to keep happening,

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Speaker 1: and it does not have to happen.

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Speaker 2: There are places where this does not happen. Our country

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Speaker 2: is a place where this sort of.

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Speaker 1: Thing is happening right now, and that means that there

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Speaker 1: are underlying and foundational issues to be addressed. And I

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Speaker 1: holding the Democrat Party and the Democrat aligned media accountable

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Speaker 1: for what they say. When you call someone a fascist

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Speaker 1: and you say and you mean it, you are saying

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Speaker 1: that person is a threat to everyone else, a threat

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Speaker 1: to all that is good, and violence against them is justified.

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Speaker 1: China is a communist country. If I call someone a communist,

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Speaker 1: am I saying we have to go we have to

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Speaker 1: go murder a billion Chinese people? No, of course not.

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Speaker 1: It's referring to it as an ideology. Well, when you

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Speaker 1: call someone a fascist, there's no.

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Speaker 2: Fascist country out there right now, Clay.

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Speaker 1: When you say fascist or Nazi, you are resurrecting something

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Speaker 1: from the past to justify violence today.

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Speaker 5: Jasmine Crockett's building on this, just called Trump Hitler today

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Speaker 5: again on Charlemagne The God Show. And I think when

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Speaker 5: you specifically analogize Trump to Adolf Hitler, building on what

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Speaker 5: you are saying, Buck, you are directly saying, go kill

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Speaker 5: him because we have I mean, this was kind of

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Speaker 5: a silly debate that used to go on. But before

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Speaker 5: the Trump, you ever made baby Hitler. You kill baby

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Speaker 5: Hitler was kind of a ridiculous sit around the coffee

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Speaker 5: table or while you're having a beer debate. And when

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Speaker 5: you call someone who is full grown Hitler, you are

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Speaker 5: telling people go kill him, which is why you can't

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Speaker 5: say that and then tried to immediately condemn. I would

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Speaker 5: have more respect for Democrats if after they tried to

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Speaker 5: kill Trump, if somebody had come out and said, I

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Speaker 5: wish we had better aim he's his, because at least

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Speaker 5: it would be consistent. You can't condemn violence after inciting it.

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Speaker 2: We already know there are lines.

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Speaker 1: If you just called every as a as a group, right,

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Speaker 1: you just called everyone who disagree with the politically, you

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Speaker 1: just started asserting that they were child molesters, we would

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Speaker 1: know that's defamation, that's wrong, that's unethical. You're trying to

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Speaker 1: say that this person is the worst kind of human

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Speaker 1: being imaginable, the most vile, the most the most you know,

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Speaker 1: lacking and decency imaginable. We would understand, right, everybody would

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Speaker 1: know if you just go around saying, oh, you're running

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Speaker 1: against me for this office, you're a child molester, everybody

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Speaker 1: would know that that is crossing a clear You know

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Speaker 1: that you're saying this to defame someone, crossing a clear line.

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Speaker 1: Which of course they've said all kinds of things about Trump.

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Speaker 1: You don't have to enough said he's a rapist, They've

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Speaker 1: said everything. But yeah, with this, to call someone a

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Speaker 1: Nazi isn't crossing the line. To say that you are

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Speaker 1: truly a fascist who's going to end the republic and

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Speaker 1: therefore our country is going to collapse, that is crossing

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Speaker 1: the line.

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Speaker 5: There will not be elections again, which is what they

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Speaker 5: have argued for years now, a decade that tries a dictator.

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Speaker 2: Who will people remember because.

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Speaker 1: It was it was very U got to go a

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Speaker 1: break and we want to take your calls here, so

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Speaker 1: we'll get to it. But when I did that film appearance,

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Speaker 1: and it was when the Democrats, I was there to

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Speaker 1: tell them what was coming, and I did, and it

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Speaker 1: did happen that way.

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Speaker 2: But I remember I looked at Bill Maher. I think

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Speaker 2: it might have been in the post show video they do.

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Speaker 1: I said, I mean, you know that it's going to

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Speaker 1: be okay if Trump wins, right, He's going to win,

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Speaker 1: and everything's going to be fine. And he looked me, right,

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Speaker 1: and he says, I absolutely do not know that I

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Speaker 1: think the country might end. Well, that's insane. You have

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Speaker 1: a problem. You should go seek counseling. Speak to your priests, well,

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Speaker 5: Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. We're gonna

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Speaker 5: get to a bunch of your calls, but I wanted

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Speaker 5: to play this for you because we just referenced it.

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Speaker 5: Congresswoman Jasmine Clark, one of the dumbest yet somehow most

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Speaker 5: influential Democrats on the planet. She went on Charlotte and

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Speaker 5: the Gods Show and she said, I'm not necessarily calling

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Speaker 5: Trump hitler. Just listen.

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Speaker 10: We thought to talk about, like what it means when

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Speaker 10: these higher offices and you go out there and you

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Speaker 10: talk about beating people up, you go out there and

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Speaker 10: you say things like I could shoot somebody in the

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Speaker 10: middle of the street in New York and I could

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Speaker 10: still win.

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Speaker 2: We gotta talk about like that. That is next level me.

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Speaker 10: Disagree with you me calling you, you know, I want

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Speaker 10: to be Hitler. All those things are like not necessarily

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Speaker 10: saying go out and hurt somebody, But when you're literally

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Speaker 10: telling people at rallies, yeah, beat them up and that

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Speaker 10: kind of stuff, like you are promoting like a culture

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Speaker 10: of violence. So we need to talk about like what

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Speaker 10: it looks like when you don't promote a culture of violence.

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Speaker 1: I think her job is to say the dumbest things

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Speaker 1: imaginable so that anything else that a Democrat says, by

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Speaker 1: comparison seems more reasonable.

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Speaker 2: Like that's her.

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Speaker 1: Actual job is to try to open the overton windows

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Speaker 1: so wide that it's not possible to say something as

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Speaker 1: stupid as Congresswoman Crockett. Therefore, whatever you say, it's not

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Speaker 1: as dumb as what she says, and it helps Democrats.

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Speaker 5: That may be what they use her as is like

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Speaker 5: the battering ram of stupidity that opens the door for

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Speaker 5: everything else. But to not understand the basic logic of

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Speaker 5: the argument you just made there of Hey, we've got

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Speaker 5: to watch basically the language that we're using. I'm not

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Speaker 5: necessarily telling people to kill Hitler, I mean they are.

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Speaker 5: I think the easiest way to.

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Speaker 1: Tell you why choose Hitler. If you don't want violence

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Speaker 1: against the person. You know what I'm saying. There's a

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Speaker 1: lot of people you could point out in history who

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Speaker 1: were you could just point out to bad previous president.

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Speaker 5: Anyway, go ahead, but yeah, no, we're going to go

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Speaker 5: to calls. But I mean, I do think what you've

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Speaker 5: got here is clear incitement. And then when you incite

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Speaker 5: the action for which you are clearly inciting, when it occurs,

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Speaker 5: you say, oh, well, we condemn this. You can't light

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Speaker 5: the fire, and then say, boy, I wish this house

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Speaker 5: wasn't burning down. I condemned fire. That's what's going on.

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Speaker 1: I'm hearing el Rushbo right now talking about the drive bys.

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Speaker 2: This is what they do.

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Speaker 1: They just spray destruction and bedlam and just move on

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Speaker 1: past and pretend like nothing happened, pretend like they had

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Speaker 1: no part in it, and they are neck deep and

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Speaker 1: all this stuff we're talking about, All right, calls. We

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Speaker 1: want to do it because we got let's so many

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Speaker 1: people want to weigh in. So you picked the top

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Speaker 1: of the list, mister Clay.

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Speaker 5: Jem in Denver. I believe you say, Jim, you were

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Speaker 5: scheduled to go to the next one of the next

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Speaker 5: stops on Charlie Kirk's tour, which got for.

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Speaker 11: Us correct up at Colorado State University. So with this

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Speaker 11: shooter's father being a police officer and thinking that he

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Speaker 11: was brought up the right way by a police officer,

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Speaker 11: I would hope his father would encourage him to cooperate

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Speaker 11: in every way possible with the police to have a

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Speaker 11: better understanding of the Antifa tights that ruined his mind

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Speaker 11: and caused him to do this evil act.

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Speaker 5: Amen Buck, I think one of the outcomes of this

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Speaker 5: needs to be if we haven't already done it, and

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Speaker 5: maybe it's underway, but I haven't seen a lot of

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Speaker 5: attention on it into the root, stem and branch of

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Speaker 5: Antifa in a way that directly goes to their organizational structure.

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Speaker 2: I just I want to get to these other calls.

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Speaker 1: I just want to point out because this is bringing

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Speaker 1: back to I saw and out with Antifa in the

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Speaker 1: earliest days, right going back over a decade now as

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Speaker 1: a movement in this country, and they there were these

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Speaker 1: open debates that would happen or discussions I should say,

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Speaker 1: not debates about because right wingers are Nazis and because

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Speaker 1: punching Nazis is okay, isn't it therefore okay to punch

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Speaker 1: right wingers? This was this was a thing that they

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Speaker 1: would they would talk about openly. And and also the

691
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Speaker 1: speech equals violence paradigm or the speech equals violence framework

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Speaker 1: that they would use. They would say, well, because what

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Speaker 1: you say is as bad as violence, my violence against

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Speaker 1: your speech is justified, even though I'm the first one

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Speaker 1: to commit violence. I know that's dizzying, and that's sort

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Speaker 1: of this self looking ice cream cone of logic, but

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Speaker 1: that is actually this is widespread among the antiphotypes.

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Speaker 2: John and Texas. What's going on? John?

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Speaker 12: We called? And it's rough days these days. But when

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Speaker 12: theymed to study our more people need to study the history.

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Speaker 12: Hitler and the Nazis originated from the National Socialist Party Socialist.

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Speaker 12: So I don't know why people can't look up and say, well,

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Speaker 12: that is where the left is coming from. And they

704
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Speaker 12: are the ones that are actually the Nazis, and then

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Speaker 12: the socialists generally speaking, the ones that are on top,

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Speaker 12: the leaders, They are the ones that make the money.

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Speaker 12: They are the ones that get paid. Well, AOC's Bernie.

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Speaker 2: That thing.

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Speaker 12: Stacey Abrams looked up and she got a million, a

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Speaker 12: billion dollars to some group she headed up and they

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Speaker 12: pass out the money to the sales like that.

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Speaker 5: But I appreciate the call John. I think with John's

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Speaker 5: hitting on Buck, a lot of times we talk about

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Speaker 5: political spectrums, I think it's honestly more accurate sometimes to

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Speaker 5: call it a political circle, because both logical extensions end

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Speaker 5: in a form of totalitarianism. Whether it's coming from the

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Speaker 5: left or the right, it is a complete control and

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Speaker 5: eradication of enemy, and that is I think where you

719
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Speaker 5: become susceptible to this. I'd also point out variety of

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Speaker 5: opinion inside of party basically does not exist on the

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Speaker 5: left now, and it is a strength of a political

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Speaker 5: party to have multiple different competing perspectives because it limits totalitarianism.

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Speaker 5: There's actually a wide variety of reasons people support the

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Speaker 5: Republican Party, the Democrat Party that's become increasingly less so.

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Speaker 1: He's unfortunately become Trump de range. But Jonah Goldberg wrote

726
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Speaker 1: a very good book Liberal Fascism almost twenty years ago

727
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Speaker 1: now Clay, that addresses exactly this, which is that the

728
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Speaker 1: liberal in this country or the leftist is a well,

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Speaker 1: that socialism is of the left and fascism is of

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Speaker 1: the left. And this is what people don't really under

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Speaker 1: that that you know, there's a oh the right, right wing,

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Speaker 1: right wing totalitarian is fascism, no fascism and communism and

733
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Speaker 1: this we saw this play out in pre world work

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Speaker 1: through Germany. We're fighting over the same or a lot

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Speaker 1: of the same recruits and the same people, and that's

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Speaker 1: why there was violence against them. But they were both collectivists.

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Speaker 1: It just one was a globalist collectivist in the case

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Speaker 1: of the Soviet uh, the Soviet model, whereas there was

739
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Speaker 1: a nationalist collectivist in the case of the fascists. Right,

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Speaker 1: but there's a lot of uh and yeah, national socialists

741
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Speaker 1: obviously what the Nazi Party actually was. There's a reason

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Speaker 1: for why they called themselves that.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 1: Tara in North Carolina, what's going on?

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Speaker 2: Tara?

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Speaker 13: Hey there, thank you. We led working on your show.

747
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Speaker 13: I had my other niece here with me. Her name

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Speaker 13: is Abby, and well.

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Speaker 5: Hi, Abby, we appreciate you being a part of the show.

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Speaker 13: Well, we were calling in because you know, earlier in

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Speaker 13: the conversation today, you know, you were talking about what

752
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Speaker 13: makes the youth want to go and do these things

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Speaker 13: and if they grow up in a family that you know,

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Speaker 13: is considered a decent traditional family. And uh, I have

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Speaker 13: another niece and she's a sixteen also, and we don't

756
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Speaker 13: really know what happened to send her to the liberal side,

757
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Speaker 13: and we we about talk about it every day, and

758
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Speaker 13: so that's why I was calling in to just say,

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Speaker 13: it kind of happens before your eyes. It's like, over

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Speaker 13: the past year, she just going, you know, to be

761
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Speaker 13: so liberal, and it's just almost scary.

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Speaker 5: I think this is one of the huge fears for

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Speaker 5: families out there, Buck, I mean, and I think every

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Speaker 5: family out there has someone they can point to that

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Speaker 5: has been lost to a in some way life that

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Speaker 5: is the opposite of how they were raised.

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Speaker 1: I think that there are forms of mental illness that

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Speaker 1: make people much more likely to become leftists. They're much

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Speaker 1: more susceptible to the ideology of the left because of

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Speaker 1: challenges that they have in their mind that that pre

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Speaker 1: that are sort of pre existing from the indoctrination phase

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Speaker 1: that's on component of this. I think that you'll increasingly

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Speaker 1: see that there are differences in just brain, you know,

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Speaker 1: if you were to do it like a functional MRI,

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Speaker 1: a functional MRI, I think that there are differences in

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Speaker 1: the way that people on the herd left their brains

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Speaker 1: fire than other people.

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Speaker 2: This is my belief a lot.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of early data that supports this kind

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Speaker 1: of stuff. You know, you can actually see like bipolarity

781
00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:27,720
Speaker 1: on a functional MRI. You can you know, an fMRI,

782
00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:31,239
Speaker 1: you can see extreme mental illness. It changes the way

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Speaker 1: that the brain is actually firing in certain ways. And

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Speaker 1: I think that leftism is something that you if you

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Speaker 1: tried to, I think you'd be able to start to

786
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Speaker 1: map it out more than the brain because it is irrational.

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Speaker 1: It does not it does not make sense to Clay

788
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Speaker 1: to compare Trump to Hitler. Trump isn't Trump hasn't killed

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Speaker 1: anybody in this country.

790
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Speaker 2: He's actually doing great things.

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Speaker 14: Hitler tried to take over the entire world and murdered

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Speaker 14: millions and millions of people, eleven million of the death Camp,

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Speaker 14: six million.

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Speaker 2: Jews, Like, how are you comparing these things?

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Speaker 1: This is like saying a mouse is a elephant, and

796
00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:03,160
Speaker 1: we're all supposed to look at you and say, yeah,

797
00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:04,640
Speaker 1: those two things are similar.

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Speaker 2: They are not.

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Speaker 5: Or a man as a woman.

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Speaker 2: There we go.

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Speaker 5: And I think it's intentional. I think they know that

802
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Speaker 5: if they can get you to lie about objective biological

803
00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:16,800
Speaker 5: reality takes you down to lie about everything.

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Speaker 1: Well, this is a going back to my book Manufacturing Collusion.

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Speaker 1: This is why in totalitarianism it's so important that you

806
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Speaker 1: have to be a part of the lie clay. There

807
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Speaker 1: was something that the Nazis used to enforce called physionomic insubordination,

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Speaker 1: which is a very complex way of saying, if you

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Speaker 1: don't seem enthusiastic enough, you know, making the hand gestures

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Speaker 1: and the you know, they they would come over and

811
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Speaker 1: and you could get in a lot of trouble. You

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Speaker 1: you know, you could disappear if you're if you made

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Speaker 1: the wrong face. You know, it'd be like if somebody

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Speaker 1: walked around during the national anthem and you know you

815
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Speaker 1: you didn't look patriotic enough. That was something the Nazis

816
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Speaker 1: in physionomic insubordination. You're your body slouched, you looked unhappy

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Speaker 1: while you were chanting the mandatory slogans.

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Speaker 5: This is why, I mean it still exists in North Korea.

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Speaker 5: This is why when you have North Korean celebratory events

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Speaker 5: in totalitarian governments, they are exaggerating their enthusiasm for fear

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Speaker 5: of potentially being severely consequented if they engage in behavior

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Speaker 5: that doesn't suggest that they are fans of the deer leader.

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Speaker 5: This is why you have to have the painting or sorry,

824
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Speaker 5: the photograph of in a prominent place of Kim Jong

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Speaker 5: un out side of your home.

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Speaker 1: And if you and if it's damaged, you can be

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Speaker 1: you can be sent to the camps, or you can

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Speaker 1: even be executed. That photo is more important in North

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Speaker 1: Korea than your own family. And that is that is

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Speaker 1: by law there, not that there's really law, but by

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Speaker 1: whatever you want to call it, the writ of the

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Speaker 1: of the totalitarian system that they have. We got more call,

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Speaker 1: you know, Claid, you want to want to we do

834
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Speaker 1: a lovely read here and we'll take some more calls

835
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Speaker 1: the other side because we've got every line lit still.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, no doubt, we'll continue to take your calls. We

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Speaker 5: want you to be able to react. It's been a

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Speaker 5: tough week for many of us, all of us really

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Speaker 5: out there in the audience right now. Eight hundred and

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Speaker 5: two two two eight a two. You can also hit

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Speaker 5: us up on the talk back. If you don't want

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00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:16,640
Speaker 5: to wait in line and you want us to be

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00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:19,960
Speaker 5: able to potentially play your talkback, go hit the mic

844
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:22,239
Speaker 5: on the iHeart app and you can send us a

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Speaker 5: message there. Unfortunately, Buck, we already lost on the Prize

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Speaker 5: Picks pick the time. It was a tough one last night.

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Speaker 5: Jaden Daniels did not come through for us. Congratulations to

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Speaker 5: all the Packer fans. Jaden Daniels did not come through.

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Speaker 5: And uh and I'm sorry as.

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Speaker 1: If you not put money on Sequan because how could

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Speaker 1: we expect a different outcome here?

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Speaker 5: Sequan has not yet played. Okay, hold on, correction, we won.

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Speaker 2: We won. This is a man look at this.

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Speaker 5: I apologize. I was at my ninth Raiders game last night,

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00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:03,880
Speaker 5: so I did not get to watch, and then we

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00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:05,880
Speaker 5: went out to dinner. I did not get to watch

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Speaker 5: Washington Green Bay full confession last night. I knew it

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Speaker 5: was a really bad game for Washington. They scored two

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Speaker 5: touchdowns late, and by the grace of Prize Picks, those

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Speaker 5: two touchdowns late were very beneficial to us in the

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Speaker 5: fourth quarter, and as a result, we actually did win

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Speaker 5: the first leg of our three way hopefully payoff. So

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Speaker 5: if you played along Prize picks dot Com code Clay,

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Speaker 5: you won last week four point two five to one.

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Speaker 5: We are two thirds of the way to a five

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Speaker 5: to one payout, So fingers crossed. If Dereck Henry scores

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Speaker 5: this weekend, we will get a five to one payout.

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Speaker 5: Five to one payout going on now. Derrick Henry to

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Speaker 5: score a touchdown rushing or receiving. That's all we need

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Speaker 1: All right, welcome back in everybody to Clay and Buck

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Speaker 1: let's take a whole bunch of calls and talkbacks here

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Speaker 1: as we go off into the weekend. This is like

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Speaker 1: our our sit down to be with each other and

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Speaker 1: just deal with this together, this situation this week. Remember

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Speaker 1: we were even before this horrible assassination of Charlie Kirk,

890
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Speaker 1: the country was reeling from the footage of.

891
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Speaker 2: Irena Zerutzka brutally murdered.

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Speaker 1: So it's been a really and that footage, the full

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Speaker 1: footage of that came out.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it has been a really tough week.

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Speaker 1: And so if you're feeling that, I'm sure almost I'm

896
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Speaker 1: sure all of you are.

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Speaker 2: You're You're not alone at all. We're all just trying.

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Speaker 1: To deal with this and and and push through and

899
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Speaker 1: and say prayers and hold loved ones close and keep

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Speaker 1: keep moving because that's all we can do. Keep moving,

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Speaker 1: keep moving forward, stay in the fight. Uh, let's see

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Speaker 1: we have where the who are the callers currently? Guys,

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Speaker 1: because we've got so many of these things coming in,

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Speaker 1: I K. Clay, do you see who's up right now

905
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Speaker 1: on the lines?

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Speaker 5: Do we have we got a bunch of talkbacks. Let's

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Speaker 5: hit some of these talkbacks. Ee, what you got for us?

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Speaker 7: My name is Joe. I'm from Mississippi. I'm a truck

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Speaker 7: driver Buck. I wanted to come on what you said.

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Speaker 7: I think death is too good for this young man.

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Speaker 7: I think he needs to go to Gimo, and I

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Speaker 7: think that's where it needs to be. I don't think

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Speaker 7: he needs to die. I think he needs to live

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Speaker 7: miserable life for what he did to us.

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Speaker 1: Well, we can get into a whole death penalty. I

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Speaker 1: appreciate your perspective, and a lot of people will share

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Speaker 1: that perspective. I think a lot of people share my perspective,

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Speaker 1: which is that there's ever a case for a death penalty,

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Speaker 1: this would be very high.

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Speaker 2: On the list.

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Speaker 1: And this gets into some deep philosophical Should the state

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Speaker 1: be involved in killing anybody? That's one part of this.

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Speaker 1: Why should the taxpayer have to spend It'll be hundreds

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Speaker 1: of thousands, maybe millions of dollars to support this individual

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Speaker 1: health care, food, and everything else for the next he's

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Speaker 1: twenty to twenty two years old.

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Speaker 2: It could be a lot for eighty years.

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Speaker 5: And also the expense of getting someone to the point

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Speaker 5: of being executed. Not only does it take a decade

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Speaker 5: or more, probably maybe twenty years in order to work

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Speaker 5: its way through the entire criminal justice system, but it

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Speaker 5: still might not happen. So that's the challenge. John by

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Speaker 5: the Way, Goose Creek, South Carolina News Radio ninety four

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Speaker 5: point three.

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Speaker 15: JJ, I am super angry right now, like just epically,

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Speaker 15: just disgusted with I'm a black man, and all I

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Speaker 15: see is blacks going all over place praising and celebrating

938
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Speaker 15: and putting down this man for being assassinated when they

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Speaker 15: don't even have a clue what he said as a

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Speaker 15: black man. What am I supposed to do as a

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Speaker 15: conservative black man? How am I supposed to do it?

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Speaker 15: I wash my hands of them.

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Speaker 5: I appreciate. Look, we start off the show by saying,

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Speaker 5: I have a family member who posted on Facebook that

945
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Speaker 5: he was glad that Charlie Kirk was murdered. I think that, unfortunately,

946
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Speaker 5: we've all had our eyes opened to how awful many

947
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Speaker 5: of the people that surround us can be. When it

948
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Speaker 5: comes to this. What I would say is the advice

949
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Speaker 5: that I give you all the time, and this is

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Speaker 5: honestly something that Charlie has to do. Explain why you

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Speaker 5: believe that this person is awful most of the time.

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Speaker 5: Occasionally you'll see me do this on social media, so

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Speaker 5: people say, oh, Klay Travis, you're racist or homophobic or

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Speaker 5: transphobic or whatever else. And I'll just say, Okay, I've

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Speaker 5: been doing media twenty years. Please share what I have

956
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Speaker 5: done that is any of those things in your mind.

957
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Speaker 5: They never can. I think a lot of people on

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Speaker 5: the left they want to brand us as controversial. You

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Speaker 5: read anything that's been written about me Buck for twenty years,

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Speaker 5: I'm always controversial, and I you caunt. Look. I understand

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Speaker 5: that there are contras, virtual opinions. I don't actually think

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Speaker 5: I have very many, and it's certainly not the number

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Speaker 5: one adjective that I would choose to describe me.

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean, I have heard your hate speech about

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Speaker 1: pistachio ice cream more than once.

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Speaker 5: To be fair, Well, this is why radio is a

967
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Speaker 5: great for him, because we have the luxury of talking

968
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Speaker 5: to this audience all over the country every day and

969
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Speaker 5: over time, for better or worse. It's impossible to be

970
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Speaker 5: an actor and do radio. You reveal your inner soul

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Speaker 5: in your essence for good or ill and h And

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Speaker 5: that is why I think it's so hard to attack

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Speaker 5: people who are on radio, because people are like, well,

974
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Speaker 5: I listen to them for three hours every day, like

975
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Speaker 5: that's not fair. I mean, you can disagree, but my

976
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Speaker 5: point on that would be for that caller. I actually

977
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Speaker 5: think pushing back and saying with people that you know, hey,

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Speaker 5: why do you think that, and maybe share something that

979
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Speaker 5: you like that that person said, and say hey, I

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Speaker 5: think you'd actually agree with him here if you listened.

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Speaker 5: I think that's helpful.

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Speaker 1: Just a fun radio And I've I've had a few

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Speaker 1: people come up by the way here I'm in I'm

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Speaker 1: in Las Vegas, and I've had a few people come

985
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Speaker 1: up and say, you know, love the show, which is

986
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Speaker 1: always always so nice.

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Speaker 2: They're they're visiting, right, I mean they're not.

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Speaker 1: I don't think their native Las Vegas, las Vegans lost

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Speaker 1: Las Vegans.

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Speaker 2: What do we what do we call the.

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Speaker 5: Las Vegas s e ends. That's a tough word too.

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Speaker 2: I think it's Las Vegans, I would assume.

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Speaker 5: But like I heard Spencer Cox today say utahns and

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Speaker 5: that's a pretty tough word to say. Yeah, yeah, he

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Speaker 5: doesn't flow Tennessee and where I am flows Floridian. Where

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Speaker 5: you are, that's a relatively easy one. It flows.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So but you see these individuals and it's funny though,

999
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Speaker 1: because people who don't. There are people they listen on

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Speaker 1: talk radio and many of them listen to Rush and

1001
00:54:42,040 --> 00:54:45,080
Speaker 1: they were Rush babies and so this this is uh,

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Speaker 1: the audio water in which they have been swimming for

1003
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Speaker 1: decades in many cases. But it's funny to me when

1004
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Speaker 1: people say, oh wow, you know, if they've heard us

1005
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Speaker 1: for the first time or if they're very recent. I've

1006
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Speaker 1: had people say, so who rights like who writes all

1007
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Speaker 1: the stuff? You guys say?

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Speaker 2: I always find that to be the highest compliment.

1009
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Speaker 8: I'm like, you think we're reading this, you think you

1010
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Speaker 8: think someone's telling us what to say.

1011
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Speaker 2: I was like, Clay and I sit down.

1012
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Speaker 14: We basically for about sixty seconds before we go in

1013
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Speaker 14: the air top story, top story, Okay, anything else, okay,

1014
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Speaker 14: boom go, and then it is just you are watching.

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Speaker 14: It's like, you know, because we read in all morning

1016
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Speaker 14: and we're reading the same stories, we're reading the same

1017
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Speaker 14: data and information, and we're texting back and forth to

1018
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Speaker 14: share that. But the actual formation of the show is

1019
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Speaker 14: about sixty seconds of you good, I'm good.

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Speaker 2: There we go. Yeah, Clay's holding up his notepad, which,

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Speaker 2: by the way, I don't know what language that is.

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Speaker 14: I don't think it's English, but it's something he's gott

1023
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Speaker 14: Are you.

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Speaker 2: Writing in cyrillic? Are you some kind of a Russian agent?

1025
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Speaker 2: What is that?

1026
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Speaker 5: I this is? I mean, for those of you watching

1027
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Speaker 5: on YouTube right now, I don't think there's anything particularly

1028
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Speaker 5: controversial or not supposed to be public on this notepad.

1029
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Speaker 5: I sit with a yellow legal pad. I write down

1030
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Speaker 5: the live reads, the advertisements that we have to do

1031
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Speaker 5: in the segment that we have to do it, and

1032
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Speaker 5: then like four or five things that I think are

1033
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Speaker 5: significant for the day, just to remind myself, Hey, hit this,

1034
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Speaker 5: make sure we touch on that. That's it. So, yeah,

1035
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Speaker 5: there is no teleprompter. You know, this is not television.

1036
00:56:09,719 --> 00:56:12,319
Speaker 5: We're not putting on makeup. God knows, if you watch

1037
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Speaker 5: us on video, there is a There isn't some high

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Speaker 5: wire act other than just trying to sit down for

1039
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Speaker 5: three hours and be as honest with all of you

1040
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Speaker 5: as we possibly can be. Greg and Colorado, what you

1041
00:56:24,239 --> 00:56:25,400
Speaker 5: got for us?

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Speaker 9: Yeah?

1043
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Speaker 16: I just had a couple points. You know, I know

1044
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Speaker 16: lots of us do no liberals, and we work with

1045
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Speaker 16: them every day and we see the hate that at

1046
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Speaker 16: least half of them are spreading. They're glorifying and celebrating

1047
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Speaker 16: the death of a beautiful person and just because of

1048
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Speaker 16: his views. And basically, if they are celebrating his death,

1049
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Speaker 16: they would do the same thing with ours. I mean,

1050
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Speaker 16: they would celebrate us our death. They would wish death

1051
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Speaker 16: upon us because we have the same views. And then

1052
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Speaker 16: one more quick point, when you see their post online,

1053
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Speaker 16: I put two. I was trying to message you, guys.

1054
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Speaker 16: I put them on your Facebook page and a message.

1055
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Speaker 16: If you see them posting their glorification and celebrating of

1056
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Speaker 16: his death, you put bring that to people's attention. I

1057
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Speaker 16: had one there's a lady who was saying she was

1058
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Speaker 16: glad that he's dead because he supported Trump and here's

1059
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Speaker 16: a fascist. And then she said the president is next

1060
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Speaker 16: and we need to spread those and.

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Speaker 5: There's a lot.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a lot of that out there.

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Speaker 1: And I would say, because some of you have also

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Speaker 1: been emailing us, and I want to always be clear

1065
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Speaker 1: when we ask you for emails and talkbacks, we're reading

1066
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Speaker 1: all of it throughout the show, and that's one of

1067
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Speaker 1: the ways that we can keep a real close pulse

1068
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Speaker 1: on what's going on with you. We don't we can't

1069
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Speaker 1: get to all of them on the air obviously, but uh,

1070
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Speaker 1: it is something that we're constantly seeing and reading, and

1071
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Speaker 1: even if so when you send it a talkback, we

1072
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Speaker 1: get the transcript of it, and Clay and I see

1073
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Speaker 1: all of the transcripts, and if you send us an email,

1074
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Speaker 1: obviously we.

1075
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Speaker 2: Read and see all of your emails.

1076
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Speaker 1: So don't think that because we don't read on the air,

1077
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Speaker 1: you're not being heard.

1078
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Speaker 2: In a sense.

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Speaker 1: And obviously we get to as many of the live

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Speaker 1: calls as we can too, that's a little different because

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Speaker 1: that has to be live and on the show. I

1082
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Speaker 1: would say this though, because we've gotten some emails, Clay

1083
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Speaker 1: where people say, well, you know, this isn't the Charlie situation.

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Speaker 1: Isn't surprising to them, meaning you know, the left's reaction

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Speaker 1: to it, because of how some people reacted when Rush past. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and here's how I would just yes, that isn't that

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Speaker 1: that I totally see that observation. And for so many

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Speaker 1: of us two who have had I mean, I had

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Speaker 1: a family member die of you know, someone I was

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Speaker 1: very close to dive cancer, and it's so painful and

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Speaker 1: it's just such a tragic and human thing that really

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Speaker 1: all of us are going to know someone dies of cancer.

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Speaker 1: So for someone not to have some sympathy or a

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Speaker 1: lot of sympathy, but you know, at least some sympathy

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00:59:00,160 --> 00:59:03,600
Speaker 1: or Rush Limbaugh as a human being shows you how

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00:59:03,680 --> 00:59:06,120
Speaker 1: deprave their soul is or lack of a soul that

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Speaker 1: they have. Very similar with Charlie. But I would say

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Speaker 1: this Rush got to be Rush, and he got you know,

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Speaker 1: he got to do He got to be the greatest

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Speaker 1: on radio of all time. He got to live into

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00:59:18,160 --> 00:59:23,080
Speaker 1: his into his phase of life where he could look

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Speaker 1: back on all that tremendous accomplishment. Something that's particularly particularly

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Speaker 1: tragic about this as Charlie was thirty one years old

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Speaker 1: and just getting going. You know, Rush had Rush had

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Speaker 1: saved the country perhaps right. I mean you look back,

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00:59:36,680 --> 00:59:39,200
Speaker 1: look at what Rush did. He at least had the

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Speaker 1: time to do it. And it wasn't an assassin's bullet.

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Speaker 1: It was cancer. Tragic but different. But the response to

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Speaker 1: all of you who are write again, yes, of course

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Speaker 1: there were psychos out there who were celebrating Rush Limbaugh.

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Speaker 1: A husband, a great American, a great boss, a great person.

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Speaker 1: They were, and it just shows I can tell you

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Speaker 1: Clayton or I have ever celebrated the death of any

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Speaker 1: American you know in any way like this and never

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Speaker 1: would And you all know that because you listen to

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Speaker 1: us every day and you know how we are, you

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Speaker 1: know how we think, and you are the same way.

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Speaker 12: You know.

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Speaker 1: This is why I was saying, we are the people

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Speaker 1: listen to us on radio. Clay, you know how you

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Speaker 1: say about SEC football. I feel that way about ever.

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Speaker 2: I know you do too. Everyone listens to.

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Speaker 1: Us on radio, they're good people because you're choosing to

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Speaker 1: spend time surrounded by good and decent and true thoughts.

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Speaker 5: I told my boys, I hate to have to say this.

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Speaker 5: If something happens to me, don't go on social media. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: I mean I think that you know, face to face conversations,

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Speaker 5: listen to the people that are important in your life.

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Speaker 5: And your boy's gonna get older. You're hopefully gonna have

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Speaker 5: multiple kids, buck at some point you're gonna have to

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Speaker 5: sit down with them. And I've had to do this

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Speaker 5: for years, especially with the rise of social media. Say, hey,

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Speaker 5: who do you think knows Dad better? People getting on

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Speaker 5: social media and talking about me or you who have

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Speaker 5: lived in a house with me your whole life. I

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Speaker 5: think it's very illuminating. For kids out there in that scenario.

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Speaker 5: Judge people by what you see them do and how

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Speaker 5: you know them. Don't judge people by what other people

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Speaker 5: who don't know them at all say, right, And I

1140
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Speaker 5: think that's unfortunate aspect of social media.

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Speaker 1: I would add Clay that in the case of Charlie

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Speaker 1: Kirk and also in the case of Rush Limbaugh, that

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Speaker 1: the satanic would dance on their graves is actually one

1144
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Speaker 1: of the clearest symbols indicators of the good that they

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Speaker 1: stood for, the righteousness that they were fighting for, the

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Speaker 1: impact that they had. That the worst among us would

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Speaker 1: celebrate them being gone is proof of how important they

1148
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Speaker 1: were in the fight, how much much they stood on

1149
01:02:00,920 --> 01:02:03,880
Speaker 1: the front lines, how much they changed lives, how much

1150
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Speaker 1: they saved lives, how much they saved this republic. And

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Speaker 1: so there is definitely crossover there as well.

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Speaker 5: Sometimes the people who hate you actually show to your

1153
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Speaker 5: point just how important you were.

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Speaker 1: Oh, it's a badge of honor. I mean, the worst,

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Speaker 1: most psychotic, most destructive people in America hated Rush Limbaugh

1156
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Speaker 1: just like they hated Charlie Kirk.

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Speaker 2: It's the truth, though, the absolute worst people.

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Speaker 5: Amen, we come back, We'll close up the week. But

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Speaker 5: I want to tell you I wasn't even right about

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1162
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Speaker 5: to be ready to watch football and just kind of

1163
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Speaker 5: veg out a little bit by the time you get

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Speaker 5: into the weekend. I bet it's almost one hundred percent

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