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Speaker 1: the NFL. Dan hansis joined by Mark Cessler and Greg Rosenthal. Going,

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Speaker 1: three men, we've here a little bit of an interesting

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Speaker 1: mix up here. Some big news happened in the last

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Speaker 1: twelve hours. So the three of us are gonna take

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Speaker 1: you through it. Three big news items. Then we'll throw

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Speaker 1: to the show that we taped originally yesterday that has

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Speaker 1: your boy trash. Take man Patrick Claiban with Wes and

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Speaker 1: Greg and Mark. I was with my parents. We keep

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Speaker 1: pulling you away from your vacation. This is two times

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Speaker 1: in a little a little peek behind the curtain, but

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Speaker 1: we had that taped. You know, it's all in the can.

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Speaker 1: It's beautiful. We're gonna take out the Antonio Brown section,

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Speaker 1: but this plenty gets stuff, plenty of trash. He takes

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Speaker 1: Mark bands a few words and uh so why throw

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Speaker 1: that whole show out? But we should talk the big stuff.

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Speaker 1: Don't throw out the baby with the bathwater. That's what

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Speaker 1: they say. I mean, who would even consider that except

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Speaker 1: let's get into it. Why are we doing this because

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Speaker 1: we gotta talk Antonio Brown the drum. Remember a couple

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Speaker 1: of years ago, it was this one I need West

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Speaker 1: on Twitter, and it was a great snapshot of NBA

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Speaker 1: Twitter and how fun it could be. NFL we got

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Speaker 1: a nice, little fun, exciting Twitter evening and it all

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Speaker 1: happened because NFL Network insider Ian Rappaport reported that the

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Speaker 1: Pittsburgh Steelers were quote closing in on a deal to

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Speaker 1: trade Antonio Brown to the Bells, to the Bills, and

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Speaker 1: that led to, let's be honest, a lot of derision, chuckles,

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Speaker 1: a lot of all Antonio got the Steelers, didn't He

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Speaker 1: lived in Buffalo. I can I can imagine the Mark

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Speaker 1: Sessler of Buffalo being very annoyed. During that one hour,

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Speaker 1: people were just slamming on the city of Buffalo. And

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Speaker 1: I'm sure people came hard with the last apt Buffalo's expense.

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Speaker 1: but what I was laughing at or what I was

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Speaker 1: was just how horrendous the fit was and it was

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Speaker 1: looks like it's not gonna happen because we had reports

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Speaker 1: that Antonio Brown, who he himself tweeted fake news. Immediately

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Speaker 1: after uh Ian's story broke, The Pittsburgh Post Gazettes Jerry

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Speaker 1: Dulac du Lac reported that Brown the Brown deal fell

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Speaker 1: apart because Brown refused to go to Buffalo. Uh and

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Speaker 1: this trade is not gonna happen now. Adam Schefter also

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Speaker 1: reporting that it's not gonna happen. Bill's GM Brandon being

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Speaker 1: confirmed it, stating the team quote inquired about Antonio Brown,

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Speaker 1: but ultimately it didn't makes sense for either side. Greg

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Speaker 1: A lot of drama, a lot of chatter, a lot

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Speaker 1: of fun, but ultimately Antonio Brown is still looking for

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Speaker 1: a team. Yeah, you know, in a wasted a couple

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Speaker 1: of paragraphs, I had, you know, starting my winners and

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Speaker 1: losers of this straight Josh Allen no longer winner. No.

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Speaker 1: I stopped it pretty soon because it didn't take too long,

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Speaker 1: no freaking way. And I think that's what happened here,

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Speaker 1: It's one of the rare, rare non trades where both

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Speaker 1: But this whole episode to me continues to not shot

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Speaker 1: It is interesting how in the NFL, if you are

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Speaker 1: so long ago, right that and just kind of making

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Speaker 1: now we'll find out what happens next to put Pittsburgh

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Speaker 1: Post Gazette reports the Steelers are still talking with quote

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Speaker 1: side it please, Case Keenum is moving again. The Redskins

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Speaker 1: uh limbo slash purgatory right now. Find a short term answer.

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Speaker 1: Keenum nixing this trade and saying I'll sit out and

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Speaker 1: do nothing unless I go to the team I want.

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Speaker 1: of this, I just think they're still gonna draft someone,

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Speaker 1: It is one of the more depressing quarterback situations in

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Speaker 1: What it did gain, Greg is there's some structure in

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Speaker 1: place now and we didn't have that. I guess the

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Speaker 1: least you have to meet cult McCoy is feeling the

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Speaker 1: same role that Case Keenum. That guy can't play more

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Speaker 1: that's fine. I mean, that's like half as much as

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Speaker 1: Chase Daniel is making. That's fine. But I think Rhodo

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Speaker 1: pat Patrick Dardi at Rhodo World Great Coach Rankings article

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Speaker 1: it too. I step away, I disappear, I got the

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Speaker 1: time boortex and I'm gone. I'm replaced by Chris Westley

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Speaker 1: and Patrick claiban Take it away, boys, be Around the

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Speaker 1: NFL Podcast turned down coaching the Bengals. Welcome to another

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Speaker 1: edition of the Around the NFL Podcast. I'm Greg Rosenthal

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Speaker 1: and I'm here in a room overflowing with heroes, just

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Speaker 1: not the normal ones. It's Mark Sessler, Chris Westley, and

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Speaker 1: Patrick Claibon in the house. Oh yeah, hey, Greg, it's

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Speaker 1: good mixing it up. You're Greg's Ed McMahon, just like

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Speaker 1: I'm Dan's, uh, you know, a little different week. Dan

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Speaker 1: um out for a couple of shows, but we've got

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Speaker 1: Claibon here. It's kind of the calm before the free

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Speaker 1: agency storm, but a lot of people chirping out there,

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Speaker 1: and that means there's just been a lot of trash

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Speaker 1: he takes, just kind of piling up over the last

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Speaker 1: few months. And that's where the man Patrick Claybron comes

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Speaker 1: in and he just cleans up that trash. And that's

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Speaker 1: what I like to do, you know. I like to

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Speaker 1: sift through society's refuse and get covered in it and

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Speaker 1: have it affect my mental state and get really angry

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Speaker 1: at it and then try to hold onto it it's

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Speaker 1: been a while been in here, so you must have

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Speaker 1: like a mountain of trash along maybe since last off season. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's it's been a while, but I understand you guys,

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Speaker 1: are you know, traveling the globe, falling in love, you know,

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Speaker 1: creating progeny. I means, yeah, West has been in love

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Speaker 1: for quite a while. But yeah, he has a wedding

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Speaker 1: coming up. I believe you have some wedding related activity

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Speaker 1: this weekend that you're flying off to. I have a

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Speaker 1: shower in St. Louis. Yes, you have to be there.

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Speaker 1: I believe me. I've asked that question. Support all right,

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Speaker 1: there's a shower in my own family is throwing in Cincinnati,

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Speaker 1: and I'm not even allowed to be there, which is

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Speaker 1: how should be. Okay, so that's what you're doing. Uh

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Speaker 1: tam Posey the loose cannon behind the glass is alive

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Speaker 1: and heading off to a European vacation. So there's just

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Speaker 1: like a lot going on. Oh yeah, are you ready?

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Speaker 1: Are you packed? Are you ready? Like what? I'm half packed.

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Speaker 1: I gotta pack a little bit more tonight and then

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Speaker 1: I'm going to take off. Got a lot of d

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Speaker 1: ms from yesterday's show, A lot of people. So now

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Speaker 1: they're double ironic, right, because it's normally it's like, oh, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm not that guy. But then it's like you didn't

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Speaker 1: listen to this show. Yeah, we we commented on the untoward,

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Speaker 1: uh cheesy d ms you get from interested man. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I was reading through a couple of them, and one

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Speaker 1: of them, that's my favorite one. I just found it

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Speaker 1: this morning. It just said, hey, Comma, Patriots suck. I like,

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Speaker 1: that's like, why are you why are you sliding into

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Speaker 1: my d ms to say that are any of them

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Speaker 1: creative or entertaining on any level? I mean no, they're

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Speaker 1: kind of lame. Because someone's like, I hope my girlfriend

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Speaker 1: and my photo shows you that I'm not a creepy guy.

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Speaker 1: That's another Yeah, that's kind of another way to do it,

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Speaker 1: Like I'm not normal. Someone's like, I hope you know

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Speaker 1: that by looking in my photo that it's me and

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Speaker 1: my girlfriend, you don't find me being another creepy guy,

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Speaker 1: you know. I mean the vast majority of these people,

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Speaker 1: like unemployed, like twenty one year olds in Ireland, A

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Speaker 1: lot of them are people now that I'm going abroad

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Speaker 1: being like where are you going here? Yeah, that's why

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Speaker 1: you don't want to totally gonna be on this continent. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you've been. You've been announcing it on your multi on

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Speaker 1: your three podcasts that you're a part of your of

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Speaker 1: course the producer of the Justin Nick and Rosenthal Vanity

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Speaker 1: Project that that we do together, unnecessary plug for a

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Speaker 1: comedy center. Why not get him in here and then?

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Speaker 1: But the bigger news I wanted to bring up is

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Speaker 1: you had kind of an emotional episode of the broadcast

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Speaker 1: with m v P now announcing her departure. Yeah, and

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Speaker 1: it's it's our it's our break up Part one. There

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Speaker 1: is a part two coming um that you well, you

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Speaker 1: gotta you gotta listen. I'm waiting for it, which which

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Speaker 1: part includes my sound But that was recorded in an

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Speaker 1: alley two about a mile from here. I think it's

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Speaker 1: part two. So yeah, everyone please check out all of

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Speaker 1: the ants and dweller. Well, I was, I was actually

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Speaker 1: when you guys when no, Well, here's the thing I was.

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Speaker 1: I was walked from work all the way to the

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Speaker 1: end of a lot we are on Washington Boulevard, all

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Speaker 1: the way to Spulvida, and then I got the request.

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Speaker 1: I thought, if I don't do it now, it will

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Speaker 1: be the next day. So I did it, but I

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Speaker 1: was walking while leaving a voice molately to listen to later.

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Speaker 1: I mean, no one has more beautiful alley shots in

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Speaker 1: their I g uh back catalog than Mark Sessler. You

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Speaker 1: should create an account just call it alle Graham. Why

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Speaker 1: so many alleys though, because they're not convenient, right, But

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm a I'm always an alley's in l A.

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Speaker 1: It's an empty too, outside of like the annoying, like

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Speaker 1: gigantic vehicle that's going one mile an hour to try

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Speaker 1: to dodge you as like, and Santa Monica feels like

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Speaker 1: it's mostly alley with like a side of actual streets. Alright,

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Speaker 1: I think I'm like deeply jealous of Erica's travel plans,

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Speaker 1: not at all jealous of yours. Wess is, let's do

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Speaker 1: some news Erica, ridiculous Boker, get out of a freaking way.

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Speaker 1: It's Odell Beckham. It's oh b J, I call him

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Speaker 1: Ody b Uh. The Cleveland Browns a lot of whispers. Mark.

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Speaker 1: You texted us three or four days ago saying like

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Speaker 1: you're hearing a lot on the Brown's dark web about

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Speaker 1: Odell Beckham, which and then like two days later it

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Speaker 1: really did come out into the national consciousness. And Andrew Hawkins,

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Speaker 1: who also has a podcast, Former Brown, kind of put

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Speaker 1: it out there and it got to the point where

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Speaker 1: Ian Rappaport and Tom Pellicero are addressing it Friday Thursday

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Speaker 1: rather on up to the minute and rap Sheet said

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Speaker 1: the brown the Giants have no interest in trading Nodell

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Speaker 1: Beckham and Addi Kinkawala was on a Cleveland radio station

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Speaker 1: saying that she heard there was an offer from the

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Speaker 1: Browns that would have included Kevin Zeitler, Emmanuel Agba and

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Speaker 1: a third player that she wasn't sure about. The Giant

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Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield and the Giant A Giant Stars shot it

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Speaker 1: down that they would never be interested in It's unclear

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Speaker 1: like if that offer happened, But there's there's buzz out there.

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Speaker 1: Are you buying it well, I'm buying that they I

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Speaker 1: am buying that a phone call might have been made

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Speaker 1: from Cleveland to New York. I don't think there's been

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Speaker 1: literally a sand grain of evidence to suggest that New

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Speaker 1: York is calling anyone about moving Beckham, but it was

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Speaker 1: it was. John Dorset said the Combine. He held up

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Speaker 1: his phone and he's like, listen, call me, I'll call you.

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Speaker 1: He's like, they are the Browns I think are going

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Speaker 1: to be very active in free agency. They still have

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Speaker 1: a ton of kappram. The Kevin Zeiler thing from the

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Speaker 1: start on this so called Brown's dark web was yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. Sometimes Marcus has this Brown's and information

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Speaker 1: and he doesn't tell us where it comes from. Um

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Speaker 1: when I when I floated to you guys on text,

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Speaker 1: it's like, unless, like the Associated Press reported this an

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Speaker 1: hour ago, it's not legit. It's like I said, this

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Speaker 1: is this is totally out there. It's maybe total b s,

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Speaker 1: but it's out there. And the Zeitler thing was always

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Speaker 1: packaging Zeitler plus X, Y and Z to a team

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Speaker 1: that desperately needed offensive line help and have offered something

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Speaker 1: big in return, and the Giants makes sense when you

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Speaker 1: pull that together. I think that it's crazy to think

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Speaker 1: that you would trade Kevin Zeitler Emmanuel Ogba, who the

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Speaker 1: Browns are essentially looking to upgrade from. Already, Zeitler is

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Speaker 1: being replaced by a second year player they drafted, and

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Speaker 1: I don't know who the player to be named is,

567
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Speaker 1: but that is usually a lesser player than the players

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Speaker 1: that are named Why on earth would you move Odell

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Speaker 1: Beckham for that? To me from that's why the story

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Speaker 1: feels massively incomplete to me this of back in the

571
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Speaker 1: days when I used to play Dynasty League fantasy football.

572
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Speaker 1: The best way to get it in dynasty football is

573
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Speaker 1: to trade all of your like kind of good players

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Speaker 1: for an absolute superstar. Like why would the Giants want

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Speaker 1: to trade for these like, okay, slightly above average starters

576
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Speaker 1: when you've got a souper? What would the Giants be

577
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:16,240
Speaker 1: telling every single person that follows the Giants if you

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Speaker 1: made that move one day, become a GM in trade

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Speaker 1: with us, because you can absolutely take advantage of us

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Speaker 1: by packaging together the guys that you aren't going to resign,

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Speaker 1: and we'll, you know, give you our transcendent guy who

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Speaker 1: may be on his way to Canton. I think perhaps, um,

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Speaker 1: first of all, Mark and add are in the same

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Speaker 1: dark web, which I think is cool, Like no doubt

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Speaker 1: do you guys? Used? Like what's true? Because I listened

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Speaker 1: to this radio appearance she had, and she's buddies with

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Speaker 1: all the guys in Cleveland, Bull and Fox. Uh, there's

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Speaker 1: some other you know, there's some other station. She was

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00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:53,280
Speaker 1: clearly on a you know, she's deep into this dark one.

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00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:54,800
Speaker 1: But we'll say one thing. It was not. I have

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Speaker 1: not contacted Nick Shook, who already is inside the Brown Spillion.

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Speaker 1: He had nothing to do with you. You You cultivated. That's

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Speaker 1: worse for five years. Well, Shook has lost his membership

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Speaker 1: in the dark web. Right, you have to remove your

595
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Speaker 1: hood and you have to state your purposes. I think

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00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:09,200
Speaker 1: Shook essentially now has to be you know, he's writing

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Speaker 1: for the team's website. Those the team websites typically are

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Speaker 1: not hot. Take machines and state the facts and get

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Speaker 1: out of there because I don't have to see Shook

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Speaker 1: break the Odell Beckham story. But he's not going to

601
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Speaker 1: be doing that. Does that Does that hurt? Do you

602
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Speaker 1: think that hurts the relations doubting you he told me,

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Speaker 1: I mean, he'll tell you the thing you from inside.

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Speaker 1: I live in fear of an angry Shook does everything noticed.

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Speaker 1: But in terms of GMS, right, let's say that that

606
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Speaker 1: is the conversation. He's like, Hey, what if you want

607
00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:44,840
Speaker 1: this trash for Odell Beckham Jr? Does that hurt? Through

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Speaker 1: the chance of a future trade if somebody makes trash

609
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Speaker 1: trade offers to you or is it just like a

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Speaker 1: man get out of here. I think it leaves a

611
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Speaker 1: bad taste in your mouth. But if you want a

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00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:55,840
Speaker 1: guy on the other team bad enough, you're you're gonna overlook. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's like the Dynasty League you were talking about, Like

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Speaker 1: that's the guy you just end up talking you know about.

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Speaker 1: It's like, all right, enough enough with those enough with

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Speaker 1: these offers, Ricky, Like you know Adrian Peter, You know

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Speaker 1: that the guy who was always just sending these moonshot

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Speaker 1: offers is hoping someone finally takes it. But do we

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Speaker 1: think John Ercy actually called up and think that insane

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Speaker 1: offer Fatiano? Does that move a little bit? I think

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Speaker 1: in his in his league, and it might make people

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Speaker 1: reluctant to trade with him. Maybe there are There have

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Speaker 1: been other reports though that Zeisler is available now. I

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Speaker 1: don't know if that was connected, and Duke Johnson could

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00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:33,680
Speaker 1: also be available in a trade, I would be stunned.

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Speaker 1: I think the Duke Johnson probably boils down to where

627
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:39,320
Speaker 1: the Kareem Hunt suspension is. But Duke Johnson is someone

628
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Speaker 1: that they have never figured out two how to how

629
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Speaker 1: to actually maximize under multiple multiple coaches and he's sort

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Speaker 1: of the guy left out of the mix at this

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Speaker 1: point a little surprising. Zeitler would potentially get treated one

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Speaker 1: of but one of the highest paid guards in the league.

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Speaker 1: And I guess they like his bad Where they drafted

634
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Speaker 1: Austin Corbett last year in the second round and he

635
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Speaker 1: sat the bench. Oh you're so, they're probably looking to

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Speaker 1: play him and cut Zeitler's contract. So Zeitler could be

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00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:07,560
Speaker 1: part of this whole trade to Nami. As Patrick Claiban

638
00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:16,400
Speaker 1: once named, I named it on my head. Sorry, I'm

639
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:18,400
Speaker 1: waiting about it like a movie poster and there's Greg

640
00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:21,800
Speaker 1: riding a wave that's actually making the number two. I'm

641
00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:25,120
Speaker 1: waiting for I'm waiting for it. There's so many players

642
00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:28,000
Speaker 1: that seem like they're available right now. There's so much

643
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:31,080
Speaker 1: salary cap space. As we tape, this hasn't really started yet,

644
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:33,479
Speaker 1: and I just feel like it's gonna be trades, it's

645
00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:35,960
Speaker 1: gonna be cuts, it's gonna be everything. The entire NFL

646
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:39,360
Speaker 1: offseason is basically gonna happen in the next ten days

647
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:41,320
Speaker 1: or so, which is wild. But here's some of the

648
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:43,640
Speaker 1: names that have just come up in the last you know,

649
00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:47,160
Speaker 1: two days. Michael Bennett of the Eagles on the market,

650
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:51,520
Speaker 1: Robert Quinn on the Dolphins. Pellicero said there's been some

651
00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:55,680
Speaker 1: trade Ducks and Jordan Howard uh has been talked about.

652
00:32:55,720 --> 00:33:01,040
Speaker 1: According to esp Scheft landed and right, and but so

653
00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:03,240
Speaker 1: I guess it's been back. It's back now that there's

654
00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:06,120
Speaker 1: there's some more talks. Which which of these guys you

655
00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:09,520
Speaker 1: know strikes your fancy well, Jordan Howard to me is

656
00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:12,200
Speaker 1: the one like I could definitely see him getting traded.

657
00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:15,280
Speaker 1: And when people say he doesn't fit Matt Naggy's offense,

658
00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:17,560
Speaker 1: it's the same reason why a lot of teams aren't

659
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:20,800
Speaker 1: interested in Adrian Peterson, because you have to build the

660
00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:24,040
Speaker 1: offense around them as an every down power back. Once

661
00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:26,760
Speaker 1: they're on the field. In passing situations, it's to tell that, hey,

662
00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:28,520
Speaker 1: this guy is and we're not passing the ball to

663
00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:30,440
Speaker 1: this guy. If he's in the game, we're running it.

664
00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:33,360
Speaker 1: There were whispers that the Dolphins had some interest in

665
00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:36,400
Speaker 1: him at the trade deadline last year, and he's entering

666
00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:38,480
Speaker 1: a contract here, so now, this is exactly what the

667
00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:40,440
Speaker 1: Giants didn't do with Landon Collins. If you want to

668
00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:43,560
Speaker 1: get anything for him, make it happen now. I can't

669
00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:46,000
Speaker 1: imagine you get too much. No, you get like a

670
00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:49,840
Speaker 1: late pick. It's's a tough situation, especially for Jordan Howard U.

671
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:52,000
Speaker 1: You know, you get moved to a team and you're like,

672
00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:53,360
Speaker 1: you don't know if they want to commit to you

673
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:56,320
Speaker 1: long term and you're going into a contract year. Um,

674
00:33:57,120 --> 00:33:58,880
Speaker 1: something shiny may come up in the draft and that

675
00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:01,160
Speaker 1: guy may may get more than you. It puts these

676
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:03,800
Speaker 1: guys in a it's a situation, especially at running back.

677
00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:05,480
Speaker 1: He's one of those guys that always that you're not

678
00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:08,120
Speaker 1: quite sure why he's good. He always seems to do

679
00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:10,040
Speaker 1: better and get more yards than you expect, Like he

680
00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:12,200
Speaker 1: doesn't look that fast, but he's still like I can

681
00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:14,719
Speaker 1: get past people. He's one of the I don't know,

682
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:16,880
Speaker 1: you can see why he fell a little bit in

683
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:19,520
Speaker 1: the draft and the same sort of reasons why people

684
00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:21,040
Speaker 1: don't give him a lot of credit. But he's still

685
00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:23,719
Speaker 1: pretty effective. Oh So. Michael Bennett and Robert Quinn sort

686
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:28,200
Speaker 1: of had the inverse seasons last year. Quinn started out

687
00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:31,120
Speaker 1: in September and early October playing really well and faded

688
00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:33,600
Speaker 1: down the stretch. Michael Bennett was incredible down the stretch,

689
00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:35,520
Speaker 1: he was great playing lights out and to me, that's

690
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:37,200
Speaker 1: a little surprising that they get rid of him as

691
00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:39,799
Speaker 1: well as he played. They're just in such that it's

692
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:42,759
Speaker 1: such a money situation with the with the Eagles right now. Yeah,

693
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:45,560
Speaker 1: it's kind of my maximum that cap space is overrated.

694
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:49,080
Speaker 1: But for the Eagles, they are probably in as much

695
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:51,359
Speaker 1: trouble as anyone. And I think they would say they

696
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:53,839
Speaker 1: they're fine playing it close to the cap because they

697
00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:56,760
Speaker 1: feel like they can be flexible. But sometimes in this situation,

698
00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:58,920
Speaker 1: it's like you just have to make a choice between

699
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:01,960
Speaker 1: about four good defensive alignment. And Chris Long is on

700
00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:04,759
Speaker 1: the books next year. He's a great value and so

701
00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:06,239
Speaker 1: you know, and he's been you know, he's been there

702
00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:09,120
Speaker 1: a little longer, and Bennett's older. I'd like to see

703
00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:11,960
Speaker 1: Ben in Atlanta. They've had some issues trying to keep

704
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:17,399
Speaker 1: Beasley healthy, get him to make some plays the part

705
00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:20,399
Speaker 1: the playoff game where you would be a great fit

706
00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:23,440
Speaker 1: and get into the double digits in place uh, purely healthy.

707
00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:26,799
Speaker 1: Brooks Reid was playing a lot. Uh yeah, wait wait

708
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:29,600
Speaker 1: on the Robert Quinn front though, It's like this is

709
00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:31,839
Speaker 1: one of those classic The Dolphins are looking to trade

710
00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:34,480
Speaker 1: him or they're just going to release him. He saves

711
00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:37,120
Speaker 1: them thirteen million with zero dead money if he gets

712
00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:40,640
Speaker 1: cut him every September. Because I used to love Robert Quinn.

713
00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:43,040
Speaker 1: There was that one year. I think it was I

714
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:44,760
Speaker 1: was convinced he was going to be like the next

715
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:48,200
Speaker 1: great defensive player. And every year he seems to start

716
00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:50,320
Speaker 1: off a house on fire and then you know, he

717
00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:53,080
Speaker 1: has these chronic back issues and I think that's probably

718
00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:55,279
Speaker 1: what ends up showing up by November December, so yeah,

719
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:57,680
Speaker 1: they'll probably cut him. I thought the Giants were gonna

720
00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:02,240
Speaker 1: cut Olivier Vernon, but Jones and uh rap sheet said

721
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:04,759
Speaker 1: on up to the minute that it looks like now

722
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:07,840
Speaker 1: they're going to keep Olivier Vernon. They couldn't, you know,

723
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:09,919
Speaker 1: he was maybe available in a trade, but he's making

724
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:12,200
Speaker 1: a lot of money. I think that's telling about the

725
00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:14,279
Speaker 1: past rush market that that that they will keep him,

726
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:15,680
Speaker 1: And I think it's smart. Do you have a manual

727
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:18,239
Speaker 1: book coming your way so you don't need Olivia? He's

728
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:21,440
Speaker 1: only twenty eight years old. Olivier Vernon, It's like they're

729
00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:23,800
Speaker 1: not going to get better by continuing to cut another

730
00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:26,120
Speaker 1: of their best players. Also another guy who played really

731
00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:28,160
Speaker 1: well at the end of last year, that's right. What

732
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:30,000
Speaker 1: I wonder what it does for the free agent edge

733
00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:33,080
Speaker 1: rusher market when six or seven guys are getting the

734
00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:37,920
Speaker 1: franchise tag, Like, does that ultimately hurt how much the

735
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:40,480
Speaker 1: guys are getting paid or raised them? I mean, I

736
00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:42,880
Speaker 1: think what hurts just as much as this draft class,

737
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:45,279
Speaker 1: which is that's meant to be the position now, I

738
00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:47,400
Speaker 1: think it helps it. So I think you're talking about

739
00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:52,080
Speaker 1: Preston Smith, Zadarius Smith and then potentially DeFord on a

740
00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:54,960
Speaker 1: new contract, Like I am not buying that he's going

741
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:57,120
Speaker 1: to be a member of the Chiefs if he's available

742
00:36:57,120 --> 00:37:00,920
Speaker 1: in a trade. I just don't understand why he wouldn't

743
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:03,879
Speaker 1: get traded because he's It's hard to find guys like that,

744
00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:07,200
Speaker 1: Like and if if it only takes a maybe a

745
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:09,879
Speaker 1: third round pick to get d Ford, and I would

746
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:12,080
Speaker 1: guess that's the case if if they're willing to trade them,

747
00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:15,000
Speaker 1: like someone's gonna do it. By April, go get for

748
00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:17,839
Speaker 1: Trey Flower is probably gonna make seventeen eight two million

749
00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:21,160
Speaker 1: dollars by April or by next Friday, maybe by next

750
00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:25,120
Speaker 1: Friday for d Ford. New NFL strategy collect as many

751
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:27,960
Speaker 1: threes as you can and then wait for wait to

752
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:30,839
Speaker 1: trade for guys like d Ford cycle them out right.

753
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:34,040
Speaker 1: I think trade like veteran trades, mid mid round trades

754
00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:36,600
Speaker 1: is kind of a nice move that the Eagles and

755
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:39,319
Speaker 1: the Rams and the and the Patriots have done quite

756
00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:41,000
Speaker 1: well over the last few years. And another one is

757
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:43,680
Speaker 1: picking up these guys like Michael Bennett. I think that's

758
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:45,719
Speaker 1: the new money ball, thirty three year olds on one

759
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:48,000
Speaker 1: year contracts that are actually still good at football. Everyone's

760
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:50,399
Speaker 1: so afraid to pay them. They help you withven Haven.

761
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:54,799
Speaker 1: The Patriots been doing that for fifteen years or more. Yeah, yeah, Like, hey,

762
00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:56,520
Speaker 1: if you want to win a championship, come play for

763
00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:58,719
Speaker 1: us for cheap. You just woke Erica up. I know

764
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:00,920
Speaker 1: Eric has got a big old smile on it. I

765
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:02,799
Speaker 1: haven't seen you smile all the way. You do. Look

766
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:06,160
Speaker 1: like a totally different person than than forty eight hours ago.

767
00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:08,880
Speaker 1: Oh my god. Which is how you make Patriots fans happy.

768
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:12,560
Speaker 1: You discuss value, because that's that's what they that's what

769
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:16,120
Speaker 1: looks smiles across the run. What are you talking about?

770
00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:18,200
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't. I want to keep Trey Flowers.

771
00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:20,440
Speaker 1: I don't. You're not even a real Patriots, but you're

772
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:22,880
Speaker 1: already looking forward to I'm the realist. I don't know

773
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:24,719
Speaker 1: if you listened to Monday's show, but I was there

774
00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:28,200
Speaker 1: when Doug Flutie went around uh around uh end They're

775
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:30,960
Speaker 1: scored a touchdown on the cultural When you said I

776
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:35,440
Speaker 1: can't wait to dump the Patriots, I know, I know

777
00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:37,319
Speaker 1: you don't. You don't bet Greg, you don't. You don't

778
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:41,239
Speaker 1: really believe. One reason why I don't read the subred ever,

779
00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:44,840
Speaker 1: but they you are getting taken. You are takeetting taken

780
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:47,720
Speaker 1: behind the wood shed, your Patriots fan. Because he literally

781
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:50,360
Speaker 1: was like, all, when Brady and Belichick leave, I'm not

782
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:53,359
Speaker 1: going to be a fair good one less Patriots. I

783
00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:56,319
Speaker 1: was just trying to be real about it. When Belichick retires,

784
00:38:56,719 --> 00:38:58,759
Speaker 1: am I going to be as invested? Maybe we'll see

785
00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:01,719
Speaker 1: if they have Josh Rosen maybe, but maybe you are.

786
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:04,400
Speaker 1: You do understand that you are being tagged, and correctly

787
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:07,080
Speaker 1: so by definition, as the ultimate fair weather fan that

788
00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:10,799
Speaker 1: the minute that the coach at the well, how no, well,

789
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:15,920
Speaker 1: if it's going to transfer to those those folks, right,

790
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:19,040
Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm saying you're like listening, You're not ready

791
00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:22,760
Speaker 1: to go through a dark stretch with them basically, which

792
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:25,040
Speaker 1: is that as like I thought about the nature of

793
00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:28,120
Speaker 1: being a fan of any team and letting any team

794
00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:32,120
Speaker 1: kind of control your emotions up and down. Combine that

795
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:36,360
Speaker 1: with the fact that we won I mean Erica America

796
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:38,719
Speaker 1: and I want the lottery. This is it. You're not

797
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:42,160
Speaker 1: going to top this. This is the greatest run in anything.

798
00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:46,840
Speaker 1: It's even better. But so it's like, you're not going

799
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:48,480
Speaker 1: to top that. I don't want to be in in

800
00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:50,600
Speaker 1: something that's only getting a little worker. Here we go.

801
00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:52,680
Speaker 1: What hurts your argument is that you're gonna wait to

802
00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:55,880
Speaker 1: do it? Do it now? Yeah? Do it? Well? Belichick

803
00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:58,920
Speaker 1: is still there. What does that say about your character?

804
00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:01,480
Speaker 1: That you jumped them in of things get tough? That's

805
00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:05,080
Speaker 1: how we've had That's how but that's how everyone else

806
00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:11,520
Speaker 1: is looking at it. I had a great with McDaniels

807
00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:14,600
Speaker 1: and an elevator at Combine. Who you're just a last

808
00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:20,200
Speaker 1: name basis Okay, Yeah, we Josh, we talked about his

809
00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:22,160
Speaker 1: wife and we were we go way back. We had

810
00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:25,879
Speaker 1: to wait for Yeah, we we were really cool. Now

811
00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:29,879
Speaker 1: the future is still so bright. What did he tell you?

812
00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:33,080
Speaker 1: He didn't know? Here's the thing they would probably be

813
00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:37,920
Speaker 1: in this future world. They are probably they're almost absolutely

814
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:40,800
Speaker 1: one a. But I I feel like my nature of

815
00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:43,200
Speaker 1: fandom is different within all these guys on the reddit

816
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:45,719
Speaker 1: board and you guys anyways, is that you guys know me.

817
00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:47,439
Speaker 1: I end up brooding for like four or five six

818
00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:50,640
Speaker 1: other teams, none as emotionally as the Patriots, but you

819
00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:52,680
Speaker 1: just kind of see who you like. That's how you should.

820
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:54,760
Speaker 1: I mean, it's a total You're talking to a Browns

821
00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:59,880
Speaker 1: fan that has lived in essentially, he's kind of like

822
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:02,920
Speaker 1: West to or you know players, No, but you and

823
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:05,359
Speaker 1: West are not the same though. West. You can't just

824
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:07,560
Speaker 1: say that you're West because you're gonna jump out on

825
00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:10,800
Speaker 1: the Patriots. They've not given you any anything but love

826
00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:14,239
Speaker 1: and joyful moments that even before it gets bad, you're

827
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:16,640
Speaker 1: gonna cut bait just because it's kind of like it

828
00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:19,040
Speaker 1: might get bad. Maybe it's not even bad, but just

829
00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:22,919
Speaker 1: like have the average time that you had together be

830
00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:25,399
Speaker 1: that excellent. It's like, maybe you should quit your wet

831
00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:28,520
Speaker 1: your marriage right when it's at the top. Why don't

832
00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:32,880
Speaker 1: your total vility? I'm just because then Sierra might come along, right,

833
00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:37,239
Speaker 1: It makes sense ultimately the way I feel about it,

834
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:40,600
Speaker 1: I I don't care about fan hood as much because

835
00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:43,560
Speaker 1: then it was like, well, Patrick, what if hypothetically somebody

836
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:45,880
Speaker 1: wanted to stop being a fan of the New England Patriots.

837
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:50,600
Speaker 1: And my reaction to that is, yes, more people should

838
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:53,120
Speaker 1: do that. About the page you were pretty broken up

839
00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:56,520
Speaker 1: about when Lamar and uh the Ravens lost in that

840
00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:58,560
Speaker 1: first round, and I think it got you still searching

841
00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:00,360
Speaker 1: about fandom, like you don't want to be I just

842
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:03,560
Speaker 1: emotion no, purely, I just don't like the Patriots, which

843
00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:05,520
Speaker 1: and I love Greg and I would like for Greg

844
00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:10,560
Speaker 1: to not like the Patriots anymore. Yeah, it's cool, all right.

845
00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:12,640
Speaker 1: I mean, I'll listen, but I'm not I am in

846
00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:14,919
Speaker 1: no way by And there's something This is a bunch

847
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:19,520
Speaker 1: of one of the ones you need to get your

848
00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:24,040
Speaker 1: It's the nonchalance that rankles me. When I broke up

849
00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:25,680
Speaker 1: at the Bengals. It was one of the most scarring

850
00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:30,000
Speaker 1: processes of my life and still scares me to this day.

851
00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:32,040
Speaker 1: What was what was the moment? I think it's a

852
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:34,920
Speaker 1: good con when they cut Lee Johnson get because he

853
00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:38,640
Speaker 1: criticized the organization, the content, if nothing else. And but

854
00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:40,680
Speaker 1: I don't think it's a bit Greg but it does

855
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:43,359
Speaker 1: make me. It's just another thing. I'm like, I have

856
00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:46,960
Speaker 1: no idea who Greg is at all. I just don't

857
00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:50,560
Speaker 1: understand at all. It just won't be the same without

858
00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:53,440
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick. That's that's all I'm saying. He's my number

859
00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:56,600
Speaker 1: one guy. It's gonna be Josh McDaniels. According to Erica's

860
00:42:57,280 --> 00:43:00,440
Speaker 1: makes it worse if you don't quit. Now, let's move

861
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:04,200
Speaker 1: on to Monday, and we talked about Bugger. I know this.

862
00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:09,040
Speaker 1: I was like, this is the downstairs, you know, Mark

863
00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:10,959
Speaker 1: and I were talking. We're like, this is it where

864
00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:13,200
Speaker 1: we don't have much to talk about it. It's a

865
00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:15,839
Speaker 1: thirty five minutes show. Finally we're gonna do it. We're

866
00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:18,239
Speaker 1: gonna keep it efficient. This is gonna be like our

867
00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:22,160
Speaker 1: addition of the Daily And I'm Michael Barbarrow, but it's

868
00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:27,239
Speaker 1: not happening. You get a Barbaro impression. Before we go.

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00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:29,400
Speaker 1: Let's just do the report that the Booger Mobile is

870
00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:32,360
Speaker 1: not gonna be back that Sporting News is saying, we

871
00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:34,239
Speaker 1: don't know if Booger McFarland's gonna be back, but no

872
00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:36,960
Speaker 1: matter what, the Booger Mobile is not coming back. Well,

873
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:38,880
Speaker 1: if I know that network well enough, there will be

874
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:41,960
Speaker 1: plenty of gimmicks to replace it. Instead of actual analysis,

875
00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:44,600
Speaker 1: I want to know what the cost in human resources

876
00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:47,719
Speaker 1: was to facilitate the Boogermobile and how many people had

877
00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:49,719
Speaker 1: to lose their jobs in order for the people are

878
00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:54,320
Speaker 1: losing their jobs. Was fine and I liked his analysis.

879
00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:56,279
Speaker 1: I don't think there was anything bad about it. Maybe

880
00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:58,600
Speaker 1: maybe it didn't help the chemistry between him and Wittin.

881
00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:00,440
Speaker 1: Maybe that I would say what I don't have to give.

882
00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:02,120
Speaker 1: I don't know if that was gonna work. No matter what.

883
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:04,120
Speaker 1: We had to give Dan Handon some credit because on

884
00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:05,800
Speaker 1: our Twitter show, I would say, over the course of

885
00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:09,640
Speaker 1: the season, the boogermobile and its issues. Uh he he

886
00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:11,719
Speaker 1: brought it up multiple times. But if I were to

887
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:14,120
Speaker 1: list the things that I want removed from Monday Night Football,

888
00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:16,080
Speaker 1: one of them is gone. Uh he's now with the

889
00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:20,000
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys. This infrastructure on wheels, it's not nearly in

890
00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:22,759
Speaker 1: my my the deepest on my radar. There are other

891
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:25,160
Speaker 1: people they need to cut, continue to cut the fat

892
00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:28,960
Speaker 1: off of this is testa tour back or do they

893
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:31,080
Speaker 1: just start? That's whether that tells you whether not Mark

894
00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:33,239
Speaker 1: watches Monday and Football with the sound did they did

895
00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:35,960
Speaker 1: they start over or not? Did they blow it up?

896
00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:38,439
Speaker 1: Kurt Warner has been thrown out there, Lewis Riddick, what's

897
00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:40,680
Speaker 1: wrong with keeping it in the fairway? What's wrong with

898
00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:43,880
Speaker 1: the broadcast just being fine and us just appreciating they

899
00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:47,080
Speaker 1: try to do too much. That's that's my top complaint.

900
00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:48,680
Speaker 1: I just want I just want to watch the right

901
00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:51,400
Speaker 1: No one would complaine, like like if it was the

902
00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:55,239
Speaker 1: number three Fox team and they just were doing Monday

903
00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:58,480
Speaker 1: night football in the same sort of good Sunday game,

904
00:44:58,600 --> 00:45:03,040
Speaker 1: meeting potatoes him, don't deliver in the middle of the game.

905
00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:06,120
Speaker 1: We don't need like the whole debate about everything. It's

906
00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:08,160
Speaker 1: like a lot of It's the answer, though, I think,

907
00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:10,839
Speaker 1: is that like a lot of reasons why corporations are

908
00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:15,960
Speaker 1: sucking the soul out of America founder and frustrating um

909
00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:18,800
Speaker 1: and that's it's people having to justify their jobs. That

910
00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:21,640
Speaker 1: there's a lot of people on the payroll, and there's

911
00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:24,000
Speaker 1: also that just means there's a lot more people having

912
00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:27,279
Speaker 1: to justify what they do by somehow being part of

913
00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:29,560
Speaker 1: it and making a decision or adding this or that,

914
00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:31,839
Speaker 1: And it's just they could always cut salary at the top,

915
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:34,239
Speaker 1: they never do that. You're like, you walk around our

916
00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:36,839
Speaker 1: building and we don't go to meetings mostly at all,

917
00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:39,160
Speaker 1: which has been out of him a lot. But you

918
00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:41,760
Speaker 1: walk by any like room that with more than eight seats,

919
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:43,520
Speaker 1: and it's just a bunch of people sitting around, and

920
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:45,439
Speaker 1: you know that nothing's happening in the meeting. And there's

921
00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:47,879
Speaker 1: always every meeting you go to has three or four

922
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:51,040
Speaker 1: people that must inject a comment just to say, listen,

923
00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:53,600
Speaker 1: I checked the box, I'm here, I'm Engagementally, you're common

924
00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:55,920
Speaker 1: is wasting all the time, You've said nothing of value,

925
00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:58,840
Speaker 1: and yet somehow inside your building credits a lot of

926
00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:01,319
Speaker 1: people's jobs. That's what I'm saying that shouldn't be When

927
00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:03,200
Speaker 1: there was a surprising you know, there's been a lot

928
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:05,560
Speaker 1: of departures at the top level of the NFL all

929
00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:07,560
Speaker 1: over the years, and I've heard different things, you know,

930
00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:10,000
Speaker 1: when people have been forced to leave it, and you know,

931
00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:11,879
Speaker 1: one of those things is like, well he didn't really

932
00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:14,719
Speaker 1: add much in meetings, you know, And I was like, well,

933
00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:16,920
Speaker 1: who is I've never what are you talking about? What

934
00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:20,279
Speaker 1: are you asking? Middle manage ever really came up with

935
00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:22,560
Speaker 1: some great ideas and meetings like as opposed to what

936
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:29,880
Speaker 1: we're back on the same wavelength. Last item of news.

937
00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:35,680
Speaker 1: Chicago Bears really set up Twitter punch line writers all

938
00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:41,279
Speaker 1: over the country by signing the kicker Chris Blewett. Right, So,

939
00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:43,960
Speaker 1: after Cody Parkey blew it, they signed a kicker to

940
00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:46,879
Speaker 1: replace him named Blue I mean, which is a joke

941
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:50,640
Speaker 1: that writes itself. But he does join third string quarterback

942
00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:54,320
Speaker 1: David Fails and former Giants tight end will tie on

943
00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:57,759
Speaker 1: the declarative sentence all storms. I think that's a good take.

944
00:46:57,960 --> 00:46:59,880
Speaker 1: I haven't heard that on the blew it front. I

945
00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:02,919
Speaker 1: was wondering where you were gonna come would that? Would

946
00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:07,200
Speaker 1: you count Cody Parkey is Parky of herb. I don't know.

947
00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:10,320
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe his name was Cody Parks, well Will Parks

948
00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:14,279
Speaker 1: for the Will Parks that you see people change their

949
00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:17,440
Speaker 1: names for professional reasons all the time. There's a strong

950
00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:19,200
Speaker 1: case for him, at some point in his life to

951
00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:21,800
Speaker 1: say I'll go by this for my taxes, blew it

952
00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:24,040
Speaker 1: as my last name. But in general, as a kicker,

953
00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:25,960
Speaker 1: you know you've got to see this is gonna happen.

954
00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:27,759
Speaker 1: This is gonna the minute you make any sort of

955
00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:30,360
Speaker 1: headway in your career bang, people gonna be all over it.

956
00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:32,279
Speaker 1: Change your name. What would the best kicker name be?

957
00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:35,120
Speaker 1: What if his name was Chris last name just the

958
00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:40,320
Speaker 1: letter base. Now, how about Chris Clutch, like something something edgy,

959
00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:44,640
Speaker 1: like like Chris Laser. I like it shows a Chris

960
00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:47,799
Speaker 1: a tough character. I feel like he was like well

961
00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:50,600
Speaker 1: nine years old, his last name was blew It, and

962
00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:51,880
Speaker 1: he was like, you know what I'm gonna do. I'm

963
00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:54,160
Speaker 1: gonna prove everyone wrong. I'm gonna be an NFL kicker

964
00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:56,560
Speaker 1: with this last name. And he's liked it so far,

965
00:47:56,600 --> 00:47:58,319
Speaker 1: so good. He's at a newser after a kid gets

966
00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:00,359
Speaker 1: blocked and people are asking him tough questions. You think

967
00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:03,120
Speaker 1: you can hurt me. My name's Blewett, But that position

968
00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:06,040
Speaker 1: is such a mental and psychological gauntlet already, and then

969
00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:08,279
Speaker 1: you're stuck with that name, You're already gonna be down here.

970
00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:11,319
Speaker 1: There was even like Matt Barr when he occasionally would

971
00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:14,200
Speaker 1: hit the crossbar became Matt cross Bar, and it's like

972
00:48:14,239 --> 00:48:19,400
Speaker 1: even that sneaky, annoying if you're uh. Also a mental

973
00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:22,480
Speaker 1: mentally difficult thing to get over is when you get

974
00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:24,760
Speaker 1: thrown into the mix on trash stakes with Patrick Laban,

975
00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:28,520
Speaker 1: and we are so overdue to start this segment that

976
00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:30,759
Speaker 1: I think we should just do it right now. It's

977
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:36,320
Speaker 1: trash Takes with Patrick Laban and now trash Takes with Patrick.

978
00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:42,120
Speaker 1: I forgot about friends just dropping dropping heat. Um, let's

979
00:48:42,120 --> 00:48:44,840
Speaker 1: get right into it. Well for for new listeners. Patrick

980
00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:47,000
Speaker 1: is the host of Up to the Minute on NFL

981
00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:50,600
Speaker 1: Network on on Friday's some other many many other days.

982
00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:55,360
Speaker 1: Hosts a variety of programs on NFL Network. But he's

983
00:48:55,400 --> 00:48:58,920
Speaker 1: He's also known kind of as a Twitter superstar, great

984
00:48:59,080 --> 00:49:02,839
Speaker 1: great great TWI at her feed. Um, you know, has

985
00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:05,120
Speaker 1: a good way of deciding who has the right take,

986
00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:07,560
Speaker 1: who has the wrong take, and letting them know about

987
00:49:07,600 --> 00:49:10,799
Speaker 1: it in a way, um that humiliates them. And so

988
00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:14,719
Speaker 1: this this segment, this segment is called trash Takes with

989
00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:17,240
Speaker 1: Patrick Claybron where he brings out some takes he didn't appreciate.

990
00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:19,800
Speaker 1: Oh well, I don't want to try to humiliate people.

991
00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:23,120
Speaker 1: I just I love myself. I was playing in my opinion,

992
00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:24,719
Speaker 1: I was playing it up. You know, I'm a I'm

993
00:49:24,760 --> 00:49:28,200
Speaker 1: a fan of of your sharp win Twitter dot com

994
00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:30,280
Speaker 1: and shout out to Alex Wilko, who in the past

995
00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:33,279
Speaker 1: has tried to because he looks out for me and

996
00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:35,520
Speaker 1: he tries to keep me from going too far. In

997
00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:37,960
Speaker 1: many instances, you know, there's a hot mic and he's like, hey,

998
00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:40,719
Speaker 1: you know somebody might be listening. Um, And so we

999
00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:42,560
Speaker 1: kept the names out of the last time that we

1000
00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:46,080
Speaker 1: did this. Uh, We're not going to do that this time. Yes. Yeah,

1001
00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:50,000
Speaker 1: here comes from Warriors seventeen seventy six, which is always

1002
00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:54,239
Speaker 1: an issue at Chad mood Heart, he says, speaking of

1003
00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:58,200
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes, Yeah, but Brady has his ring size on file,

1004
00:49:58,600 --> 00:50:02,960
Speaker 1: emoji shrug, cool stats and all. But Mahomes needs to

1005
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:06,719
Speaker 1: develop into a leader like Brady, otherwise we will have

1006
00:50:06,760 --> 00:50:11,480
Speaker 1: another Rogers on our hands, all hype and excuses as

1007
00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:14,920
Speaker 1: to why he can't win more. That tweet is checking

1008
00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:18,360
Speaker 1: a lot of box Wait what was the handle again? You?

1009
00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:23,120
Speaker 1: What's that smell? It's trash takes with Patrick at Chad

1010
00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:27,120
Speaker 1: Moothart replying to Pro Football Focus, and I think what

1011
00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:30,280
Speaker 1: I've tried to do here today is because the trash

1012
00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:33,479
Speaker 1: takes genre has has spanned out into so many different things.

1013
00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:37,440
Speaker 1: As West said, it just has so much going on. Right,

1014
00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:41,879
Speaker 1: there's the novel, there's the rings argument, which is always trash.

1015
00:50:42,040 --> 00:50:46,600
Speaker 1: There's the Rogers isn't good our our argument or a leader? Yeah,

1016
00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:50,160
Speaker 1: and there's the Mahomes thing and excuses it's it's bad,

1017
00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:53,959
Speaker 1: it's trash. After after one year of the Patrick Holmes

1018
00:50:54,040 --> 00:50:57,880
Speaker 1: experience in which he's won the m v P and

1019
00:50:57,920 --> 00:51:00,400
Speaker 1: then script thirty two points in the a f C

1020
00:51:00,520 --> 00:51:03,640
Speaker 1: Championship game, including twenty eight in the fourth quarter, and

1021
00:51:03,840 --> 00:51:06,359
Speaker 1: that year that he didn't have a single awful game,

1022
00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:11,080
Speaker 1: not one, not one, and also throwing in stats as

1023
00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:12,759
Speaker 1: if it can't be possible that you would have great

1024
00:51:12,760 --> 00:51:15,720
Speaker 1: stats and be a leader. But he's a great example,

1025
00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:19,399
Speaker 1: I believe you know, he obviously played more than well

1026
00:51:19,520 --> 00:51:22,600
Speaker 1: enough to beat the Patriots that day, and in how

1027
00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:25,160
Speaker 1: different of an off season it would be for him

1028
00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:27,920
Speaker 1: if the instead of the Patriots were talking about we're

1029
00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:30,400
Speaker 1: talking about the twenty eight points he put up in

1030
00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:33,120
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter to go to the Super Bowl on

1031
00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:35,279
Speaker 1: the way to romping the Rams, which I kind of

1032
00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:37,319
Speaker 1: have a feeling that the Chiefs would have done. Right.

1033
00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:40,080
Speaker 1: This is how narratives started, like Patrick Mahomes is less

1034
00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:42,719
Speaker 1: good because Tom Brady entered the zone in overtime, right

1035
00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:45,200
Speaker 1: because of a coin flip, Well, he needs to be

1036
00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:48,360
Speaker 1: better at Ford was in the neutral zone. Although you

1037
00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:50,359
Speaker 1: know when you watch that play, this is my chance

1038
00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:52,120
Speaker 1: to bring this up. No one ever brings up. It's

1039
00:51:52,239 --> 00:51:56,080
Speaker 1: very unclear whether the Brady was actually intercepted and the

1040
00:51:56,080 --> 00:51:59,040
Speaker 1: guy got in bounced. No. I forget who was Kinne Puller.

1041
00:51:59,520 --> 00:52:00,920
Speaker 1: I went back can looked at it and it was

1042
00:52:01,080 --> 00:52:03,680
Speaker 1: very I looked at multiple angles. They would have gone

1043
00:52:03,719 --> 00:52:06,719
Speaker 1: a review. I'm just saying. Everyone was saying that day

1044
00:52:08,200 --> 00:52:10,040
Speaker 1: cost him the Super Bowl. You don't know that that

1045
00:52:10,080 --> 00:52:13,279
Speaker 1: actually might not have got stop liking the Patriots. Correct? Okay,

1046
00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:18,120
Speaker 1: next trash steake Okay. Uh. This one combines a couple

1047
00:52:18,160 --> 00:52:20,160
Speaker 1: of genres as well, one of which I hate the

1048
00:52:20,200 --> 00:52:23,239
Speaker 1: most is ratings. Uh, combined with the Rams don't have

1049
00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:28,960
Speaker 1: any fans, this guy said, fact, Simmy Colin, more people

1050
00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:31,880
Speaker 1: in l A watched the Pats Chiefs than Ram Saints.

1051
00:52:32,200 --> 00:52:34,200
Speaker 1: That's never happened before for a home team to have

1052
00:52:34,320 --> 00:52:37,680
Speaker 1: less viewers within their local market in conjunction with another

1053
00:52:37,719 --> 00:52:41,560
Speaker 1: game the same day. Who who authored this tweet? This

1054
00:52:41,760 --> 00:52:48,320
Speaker 1: was coach Boyn DHS. Do we know if this is

1055
00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:50,880
Speaker 1: indeed a fact that no home team has ever I

1056
00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:53,640
Speaker 1: just I just know I don't care, Like, why do

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Speaker 1: people care about ratings so much? This is one of

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00:52:56,400 --> 00:52:59,600
Speaker 1: your big this is one of your big talking points.

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00:52:59,680 --> 00:53:04,200
Speaker 1: Why when did it become When did America become convinced

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00:53:04,200 --> 00:53:06,640
Speaker 1: that we should all care about ratings when it comes

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00:53:06,640 --> 00:53:08,319
Speaker 1: to sports? And it's a good point. There is a

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00:53:08,320 --> 00:53:12,279
Speaker 1: lot of like just like why talk about Oh, did

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00:53:12,280 --> 00:53:13,919
Speaker 1: it go up a point? Did it go down to point?

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00:53:13,960 --> 00:53:16,120
Speaker 1: Why are fans so word? Well, I'm not sure all

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00:53:16,160 --> 00:53:19,359
Speaker 1: of America cares about ratings. I know that you are

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00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:22,200
Speaker 1: a lot about ratings, but it's a very small sport,

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00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:25,880
Speaker 1: like hardcore sports fan, Yeah, hardcore sports. Yeah, you know,

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00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:28,400
Speaker 1: Darren Ravel has five million followers, and it's like, right,

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00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:31,880
Speaker 1: you get the sports business daily retweeting overnights from I

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00:53:31,880 --> 00:53:35,719
Speaker 1: worry about those. I'm hesitant to say something has declaratively

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00:53:36,040 --> 00:53:38,520
Speaker 1: you know, and potentially stupid as this guy did, But

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00:53:38,560 --> 00:53:41,800
Speaker 1: I bet there's no way that that he's right about that. Anyways.

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Speaker 1: First of all, if the rams were later in the day,

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00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:45,799
Speaker 1: they would have gotten the bigger rating. They got a

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00:53:45,840 --> 00:53:50,520
Speaker 1: totally normal rating in l A and nationally for that game.

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00:53:50,640 --> 00:53:52,920
Speaker 1: I remember it was up from the year before. But

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00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:55,759
Speaker 1: the second game always gets bigger ratings. That's just how

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00:53:55,880 --> 00:53:58,040
Speaker 1: well we'd have to look. I thought I read something similar,

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00:53:58,080 --> 00:54:01,640
Speaker 1: but I think number one from Los Angeles is different

1080
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Speaker 1: than any other city in the entire country. And I

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00:54:03,719 --> 00:54:06,560
Speaker 1: don't care what sports ratings coming out of Los Angeles

1082
00:54:06,600 --> 00:54:09,200
Speaker 1: are for anything, right, And it's a huge sports It

1083
00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:11,120
Speaker 1: is a huge sports town. It's just not a huge

1084
00:54:11,400 --> 00:54:14,920
Speaker 1: local NFL team town. Like the NFL ratings get huge

1085
00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:17,719
Speaker 1: are huge here. It's just you know, there's twenty different teams,

1086
00:54:18,200 --> 00:54:20,719
Speaker 1: a lot of different people. I subscribe to this theory. Now,

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00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:23,360
Speaker 1: I don't care at all about TV ratings. It doesn't

1088
00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:27,080
Speaker 1: but it doesn't what's it? What's it doing? Did you

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00:54:27,120 --> 00:54:30,560
Speaker 1: like the game? Like after the AF the opening weekend,

1090
00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:33,120
Speaker 1: people say all ratings, this ratiings. It's like, hey, guys, uh,

1091
00:54:33,160 --> 00:54:35,120
Speaker 1: did you like? How do you feel about Trent rittersing?

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00:54:35,200 --> 00:54:36,759
Speaker 1: You want to talk about sports? Or are we gonna

1093
00:54:36,760 --> 00:54:41,160
Speaker 1: do this? So about this about other people's money? It's

1094
00:54:41,160 --> 00:54:45,240
Speaker 1: not your money? Um? All right? Loosely interpreted this trash.

1095
00:54:45,440 --> 00:54:49,040
Speaker 1: I personally love this tweet, I just maybe, but not

1096
00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:51,640
Speaker 1: for the reasons that the tweeter uh sent it out

1097
00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:54,440
Speaker 1: During combine week. Twitter can be bad, it can be horrible.

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00:54:55,040 --> 00:54:59,080
Speaker 1: Our friend Chase goodbread or carbs, you know, value, pumper Nickel.

1099
00:54:59,120 --> 00:55:02,360
Speaker 1: So many different names you can have for Chase, Value, Pumper,

1100
00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:07,400
Speaker 1: good bread. Um, there's He had a tweet about the

1101
00:55:07,440 --> 00:55:11,480
Speaker 1: Seahawks asking a player to have a staring contest, and

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00:55:11,480 --> 00:55:14,200
Speaker 1: there were many reactions to it, but Jim Naggie of

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00:55:14,320 --> 00:55:19,960
Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl replied, grit test. It a staring contest

1104
00:55:20,239 --> 00:55:23,799
Speaker 1: to test the grit he thinks, he thinks no recycling here,

1105
00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:27,360
Speaker 1: it's trash tape. But Patrick, the tenacity of a football

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00:55:27,360 --> 00:55:32,240
Speaker 1: player determined what percentage? Do you think that tweet was serious?

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00:55:32,360 --> 00:55:34,080
Speaker 1: That's true? We don't know. I don't know. And that's

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00:55:34,360 --> 00:55:38,560
Speaker 1: I think. I I mean, he works for a college

1109
00:55:38,560 --> 00:55:42,479
Speaker 1: scouting bowl. I think he's saying it's a good test.

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00:55:42,520 --> 00:55:44,759
Speaker 1: I mean, Patrick, never know that. We don't know that. Man.

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00:55:45,160 --> 00:55:47,480
Speaker 1: You're also you also you have you have a Burner

1112
00:55:47,520 --> 00:55:50,279
Speaker 1: account of your own, several alright, well one of them

1113
00:55:50,320 --> 00:55:52,359
Speaker 1: is David Eally quotes and I want to know how

1114
00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:57,279
Speaker 1: serious this pinned from Patrick has multiple Burner accounts? How

1115
00:55:57,400 --> 00:56:01,040
Speaker 1: serious is this? From February two and sixteen from David

1116
00:56:01,040 --> 00:56:04,719
Speaker 1: Eally if I'm texting, I'm sexting. It's been penned there

1117
00:56:04,760 --> 00:56:07,799
Speaker 1: for three years. The character of David Eally quotes was

1118
00:56:07,880 --> 00:56:11,400
Speaker 1: purely born from the idea of that tweet. I was

1119
00:56:11,440 --> 00:56:13,480
Speaker 1: trying to get into the idea because we all know

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Speaker 1: and loved David Eally. He's He's a sensible, u sexual

1121
00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:22,280
Speaker 1: man helps runs the news room downstairs, but he has

1122
00:56:22,360 --> 00:56:26,279
Speaker 1: sometimes some hilarity with involved with relationships with women. And

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00:56:26,320 --> 00:56:29,680
Speaker 1: so in my mind, the idea of an overly overtly

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00:56:29,719 --> 00:56:33,359
Speaker 1: sexual David Eally that talks to women, you know, in

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00:56:33,360 --> 00:56:36,520
Speaker 1: in very sexual terms, uh, it was. It was great

1126
00:56:36,520 --> 00:56:39,439
Speaker 1: fodder for Twitter account and then comedy. You know, if

1127
00:56:39,480 --> 00:56:41,319
Speaker 1: he is my he's my boss and I just had

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00:56:41,320 --> 00:56:44,040
Speaker 1: my review with him about twenty minutes ago. So totally

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00:56:44,040 --> 00:56:47,480
Speaker 1: support David Eally a wonderful guy. Um, I don't know

1130
00:56:47,480 --> 00:56:50,040
Speaker 1: if if he's offended by what you're writing, how is

1131
00:56:50,080 --> 00:56:54,040
Speaker 1: that dynamic? Because initially there was some concerns that like, hey,

1132
00:56:54,080 --> 00:56:56,239
Speaker 1: you know, I've been at this company longer than you,

1133
00:56:56,440 --> 00:56:59,439
Speaker 1: I'm older than you, yet you're my boss, so this

1134
00:56:59,520 --> 00:57:05,080
Speaker 1: is just strange. Listen to Stinky Davis. Everything everything absolutely

1135
00:57:05,120 --> 00:57:09,320
Speaker 1: great with David. All right, let's hear another trash take. Okay,

1136
00:57:09,600 --> 00:57:13,800
Speaker 1: this one comes from rivals Mike. After the Ravens lost

1137
00:57:13,920 --> 00:57:16,720
Speaker 1: to the Chargers uh in the playoffs in two thousand eighteen,

1138
00:57:17,000 --> 00:57:20,640
Speaker 1: he says, where are all the Lamar Jackson apologists? Now?

1139
00:57:22,000 --> 00:57:24,640
Speaker 1: First of all, what are you apologizing for? So? Yeah

1140
00:57:24,640 --> 00:57:29,880
Speaker 1: that my initial reply was right here, bucko, bucko, I

1141
00:57:30,480 --> 00:57:32,360
Speaker 1: don't I know, the bar is always gonna move for

1142
00:57:32,440 --> 00:57:35,280
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson, but it's just weird after a playoff game

1143
00:57:35,320 --> 00:57:39,240
Speaker 1: in which he actually out passed Philip Rivers in to

1144
00:57:39,240 --> 00:57:42,480
Speaker 1: to send that out, and it just kind of encapsulates

1145
00:57:42,640 --> 00:57:45,240
Speaker 1: the whole reaction. I blocked a lot of people because

1146
00:57:45,280 --> 00:57:48,919
Speaker 1: I'm a I'm a big fan of the Mars and uh,

1147
00:57:49,200 --> 00:57:51,840
Speaker 1: It's just stuff like that, like what do we how

1148
00:57:51,840 --> 00:57:53,960
Speaker 1: do we determine success for other people? In why can't

1149
00:57:53,960 --> 00:57:56,360
Speaker 1: it be the same? It's a very common version of

1150
00:57:56,440 --> 00:58:00,320
Speaker 1: trash take is basically you have a long held leaf

1151
00:58:01,120 --> 00:58:05,040
Speaker 1: and then the moment you have anything to support it,

1152
00:58:05,800 --> 00:58:08,440
Speaker 1: that's the moment where you tweet I was right, you know,

1153
00:58:08,560 --> 00:58:10,640
Speaker 1: like and in sports, and I've done it too, I'm

1154
00:58:10,640 --> 00:58:13,320
Speaker 1: sure I've done it a million times too. That like Okay,

1155
00:58:13,320 --> 00:58:15,960
Speaker 1: I'm going to ignore all the rest of you know,

1156
00:58:16,000 --> 00:58:17,880
Speaker 1: the time that I didn't say anything for the last

1157
00:58:17,920 --> 00:58:19,880
Speaker 1: two months, but here now that I have something that

1158
00:58:19,920 --> 00:58:25,720
Speaker 1: proves my point, I was right hesitate to say this.

1159
00:58:27,680 --> 00:58:33,400
Speaker 1: It's trash takes with Patrick Show. Only very recently, I

1160
00:58:33,440 --> 00:58:35,240
Speaker 1: would say, in the last year and a half or so,

1161
00:58:35,320 --> 00:58:38,959
Speaker 1: I've seen a gradual shaming of people who handled Twitter.

1162
00:58:39,000 --> 00:58:41,720
Speaker 1: Because Twitter has been like that for ten years, crowing

1163
00:58:41,720 --> 00:58:44,480
Speaker 1: about when you're right, and I've seen a gradual kind

1164
00:58:44,560 --> 00:58:48,160
Speaker 1: of drifting away from that, people realizing that maybe we're

1165
00:58:48,160 --> 00:58:50,360
Speaker 1: not this arrogant and cocky in real life. Why are

1166
00:58:50,400 --> 00:58:52,680
Speaker 1: we acting like this on this medium. It's because of

1167
00:58:52,760 --> 00:58:55,520
Speaker 1: thought leaders like Clay Bond. You know, it's shaming, holding

1168
00:58:55,560 --> 00:58:58,320
Speaker 1: people accountable. And now finally I think the group is

1169
00:58:58,640 --> 00:59:00,240
Speaker 1: doing it. I think we've had so many good trash

1170
00:59:00,280 --> 00:59:02,840
Speaker 1: takes we actually should take a break. Like the other

1171
00:59:02,920 --> 00:59:07,120
Speaker 1: day we had that nice little minute cleansing of the

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00:59:07,120 --> 00:59:09,720
Speaker 1: palate and this time, though, marks the one that's gonna

1173
00:59:09,840 --> 00:59:13,320
Speaker 1: cleanse it. Well. We have occasionally we banned phrases. I thought,

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00:59:13,480 --> 00:59:16,000
Speaker 1: along with your annoyance to people's tweets, that some of

1175
00:59:16,040 --> 00:59:18,520
Speaker 1: the stuff that pops up on Twitter, and I am

1176
00:59:18,880 --> 00:59:22,800
Speaker 1: far from like a a millennial watchdog of what's what's

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00:59:22,840 --> 00:59:25,600
Speaker 1: cool or not to be sold. So you're you're banning phrases,

1178
00:59:25,640 --> 00:59:28,200
Speaker 1: I'm banning phrases, if I if I if I'm starting

1179
00:59:28,200 --> 00:59:30,640
Speaker 1: to say these phrases, they anyone younger than me should

1180
00:59:30,680 --> 00:59:32,600
Speaker 1: not be and I'm not eating but these even I

1181
00:59:32,680 --> 00:59:34,320
Speaker 1: don't even want to see. It goes so well with

1182
00:59:34,400 --> 00:59:37,520
Speaker 1: trash takes like this. This to me sounds like eight

1183
00:59:37,560 --> 00:59:40,760
Speaker 1: o'clock eight thirty NBC on a Wednesday night, back to

1184
00:59:40,800 --> 00:59:44,480
Speaker 1: back like these two they do like there, it's like

1185
00:59:44,520 --> 00:59:46,840
Speaker 1: it's a beautiful marriage. But I will like Erica, I'll

1186
00:59:46,840 --> 00:59:49,720
Speaker 1: allow you because you're like a no less than twenty

1187
00:59:49,800 --> 00:59:51,600
Speaker 1: years younger than me. I think that you could or

1188
00:59:51,720 --> 00:59:54,400
Speaker 1: nineteen you could tell me if these are dead on

1189
00:59:54,560 --> 00:59:57,200
Speaker 1: or not um And the first one comes from m

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00:59:57,360 --> 01:00:00,640
Speaker 1: v P, who sent this along during the weekends. She's

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01:00:00,640 --> 01:00:02,480
Speaker 1: she might be the best writer in the building and

1192
01:00:02,520 --> 01:00:04,680
Speaker 1: she has a good eye for what is total bs

1193
01:00:04,720 --> 01:00:06,200
Speaker 1: and not going to be in the building much longer,

1194
01:00:06,840 --> 01:00:08,440
Speaker 1: will not find the coop. I didn't know if that

1195
01:00:08,480 --> 01:00:13,800
Speaker 1: was my announcement to make, but she's okay. It's her career.

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01:00:14,120 --> 01:00:16,439
Speaker 1: Uh so she made this great point that every time,

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01:00:16,480 --> 01:00:18,960
Speaker 1: now this is on Instagram to more than much more

1198
01:00:19,040 --> 01:00:21,720
Speaker 1: than Twitter. Whenever you get like a clown car of

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Speaker 1: like four people in a photo, like a group photo,

1200
01:00:24,280 --> 01:00:26,560
Speaker 1: but they're not like doing the smile with their arms

1201
01:00:26,600 --> 01:00:28,280
Speaker 1: or each other, but it's something else and like a

1202
01:00:28,280 --> 01:00:30,640
Speaker 1: little serious and like might be it's black and white

1203
01:00:30,720 --> 01:00:32,840
Speaker 1: or the some nice shadow and then they just like

1204
01:00:32,920 --> 01:00:35,880
Speaker 1: the hashtag is like our album cover or our album

1205
01:00:35,960 --> 01:00:38,640
Speaker 1: is dropping next week. It's like, no, your album is

1206
01:00:38,680 --> 01:00:45,880
Speaker 1: not dropping, you flock of idiots. Are you agree with

1207
01:00:45,920 --> 01:00:50,160
Speaker 1: Emma's take? Their that's heavy showing, Oh my god, saying

1208
01:00:50,920 --> 01:00:54,320
Speaker 1: so many people are doing. If you are not indeed

1209
01:00:54,560 --> 01:00:58,560
Speaker 1: putting out an album, you cannot it is it is.

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01:00:59,280 --> 01:01:02,160
Speaker 1: If it was ever funny, no longer still is. Um.

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01:01:02,160 --> 01:01:04,720
Speaker 1: This one annoys me and it's I kind of thought

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01:01:04,800 --> 01:01:07,760
Speaker 1: this worked for certain groups of people very early on,

1213
01:01:07,840 --> 01:01:15,120
Speaker 1: but it is tiresome hashtag squad goals. Yeah that really

1214
01:01:15,320 --> 01:01:17,560
Speaker 1: it's I'm saying. I'm not saying that I'm right about this,

1215
01:01:17,600 --> 01:01:21,200
Speaker 1: but it is highly annoying. But that's fun. It's funny.

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01:01:21,240 --> 01:01:22,840
Speaker 1: If I posted a photo of the five of us

1217
01:01:22,920 --> 01:01:24,920
Speaker 1: right now, and it's like squad goals. People want to

1218
01:01:24,960 --> 01:01:28,600
Speaker 1: be in this squad. But you know what, I'm just saying,

1219
01:01:28,720 --> 01:01:30,240
Speaker 1: we can come up with something else that's dumb and

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01:01:30,280 --> 01:01:34,880
Speaker 1: sort of and he was again at this point, I mean,

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01:01:34,920 --> 01:01:42,520
Speaker 1: you're okay. Here's one accept I heard someone, um like

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01:01:42,680 --> 01:01:46,960
Speaker 1: seriously label someone else in our office because this is

1223
01:01:47,000 --> 01:01:49,080
Speaker 1: sort of the world that they exist in, that this

1224
01:01:49,200 --> 01:01:51,200
Speaker 1: was there, this is how they felt. The real title

1225
01:01:51,200 --> 01:01:55,080
Speaker 1: was social media ninja kill me. Now. I don't need

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01:01:55,160 --> 01:01:58,640
Speaker 1: that in my life. I don't feel like it is

1227
01:01:58,680 --> 01:02:03,320
Speaker 1: how people describe like inside inside career channels. If they're

1228
01:02:03,360 --> 01:02:06,640
Speaker 1: grade at social media ninja's are assassins of the night?

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01:02:07,520 --> 01:02:10,160
Speaker 1: How does that even trip? I just yet to me,

1230
01:02:10,320 --> 01:02:12,520
Speaker 1: all right, last one because the halftime is almost over.

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01:02:12,920 --> 01:02:17,160
Speaker 1: Um any anything where someone who's already like thirty one like, oh,

1232
01:02:17,280 --> 01:02:19,840
Speaker 1: you had to go you had to go do your laundry.

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01:02:19,840 --> 01:02:21,800
Speaker 1: I'm so sorry that you had to go do something

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01:02:22,160 --> 01:02:24,000
Speaker 1: on your own without someone hold your hand. It's like,

1235
01:02:24,120 --> 01:02:27,400
Speaker 1: I just had to go to my laundry hashtag adulting.

1236
01:02:28,720 --> 01:02:30,840
Speaker 1: You've been an adult for like fifteen years and you

1237
01:02:30,880 --> 01:02:33,400
Speaker 1: had had to go get it, had to go get

1238
01:02:33,440 --> 01:02:36,320
Speaker 1: four quarters for a dollar by myself. Adult team not

1239
01:02:36,440 --> 01:02:39,240
Speaker 1: of Earth, get out of here with that? Can I

1240
01:02:39,240 --> 01:02:41,920
Speaker 1: have a spin off? Yes? Please? Yes, this is a

1241
01:02:41,920 --> 01:02:47,600
Speaker 1: group with the nature of a unicorn is its uniqueness

1242
01:02:47,720 --> 01:02:49,560
Speaker 1: and the fact that it may or may not even exist.

1243
01:02:49,640 --> 01:02:52,040
Speaker 1: If every one of you women out there is a unicorn,

1244
01:02:52,240 --> 01:02:55,760
Speaker 1: then there are no unicorns. That's kind of that's very

1245
01:02:55,800 --> 01:02:58,800
Speaker 1: similar to the goat thing. Now that goats are you know,

1246
01:02:58,920 --> 01:03:00,840
Speaker 1: in theory it's the great of all time, but now

1247
01:03:00,840 --> 01:03:04,320
Speaker 1: it's commonly understood. Don't you one of the better players

1248
01:03:04,880 --> 01:03:08,200
Speaker 1: that you know that actually that week? Don't you think

1249
01:03:08,200 --> 01:03:10,760
Speaker 1: you found your unicorn? You didn't think that she existed

1250
01:03:10,800 --> 01:03:14,720
Speaker 1: and then you found beautiful Oh my god, we have

1251
01:03:14,800 --> 01:03:18,000
Speaker 1: so much work to do. Uh. To your point about

1252
01:03:18,040 --> 01:03:22,920
Speaker 1: like the adulting thing, uh, I think it's it's untoward.

1253
01:03:23,040 --> 01:03:27,360
Speaker 1: It's unsavory. There's always like a lot of complaining of like,

1254
01:03:27,680 --> 01:03:31,000
Speaker 1: oh wow, now i'm you know, it's something happens like

1255
01:03:31,200 --> 01:03:34,400
Speaker 1: a show is ten years old, or an actor you know,

1256
01:03:34,520 --> 01:03:37,080
Speaker 1: is celebrating some anniversary and they're like like if that

1257
01:03:37,120 --> 01:03:39,040
Speaker 1: doesn't make you feel old, you know, it's like I'm

1258
01:03:39,040 --> 01:03:42,160
Speaker 1: officially old. But it's always someone in their twenties or

1259
01:03:42,160 --> 01:03:44,080
Speaker 1: in their thirties, like you're not a lot. Even I

1260
01:03:44,480 --> 01:03:46,680
Speaker 1: would say, we shouldn't even really be saying that on

1261
01:03:46,760 --> 01:03:49,880
Speaker 1: social media because then there there's like the fifties sixties,

1262
01:03:49,920 --> 01:03:51,920
Speaker 1: like you're not allowed to say that in your twenties

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Speaker 1: and thirties, even young thirties. It's annoying. Don't say that,

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Speaker 1: West and I say it at the age I don't

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Speaker 1: even think bother, don't even bother. I don't want it's

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Speaker 1: just like it's just like I'm old now. And then

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Speaker 1: how about blank? Is a mood? Oh? Yeah, that's that's

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Speaker 1: I'm done with? Is like, is a mood? I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: go through your tweets right now because I feel like

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Speaker 1: you just tweeted something I would never put. It's okay,

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Speaker 1: here's the thing with is a mood? It's fine, like

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Speaker 1: I get you know, it's cool, whatever. But when you

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Speaker 1: can see in its current state how stale it's gonna

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Speaker 1: be in nine months, then I already want to move

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Speaker 1: past that nine months because it's eventually going to be stale.

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Speaker 1: I think the topic we've hit on is the mem

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Speaker 1: ification of language and how things and words run their

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01:04:38,040 --> 01:04:40,720
Speaker 1: course a little bit faster now than they used to.

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Speaker 1: And you're not going to have like cool won't be

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Speaker 1: around as long, you know, And like plank is a mood.

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Speaker 1: Was where I was with like lit the first time

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Speaker 1: I ever heard X is lit. Like no, because they're

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01:04:51,440 --> 01:04:53,880
Speaker 1: a bunch of like Jabroni's walking around a office scene.

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01:04:53,920 --> 01:04:55,680
Speaker 1: It's like, you are not the person who should be

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Speaker 1: saying any of these phrases. Well, repetition is the death

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Speaker 1: of art and humor. Greg had a great tweet about slaps,

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01:05:02,520 --> 01:05:05,000
Speaker 1: like you know the song slaps. Oh yeah, well, I

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Speaker 1: I said, I wish I was young enough to say

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Speaker 1: a song slaps because it does that is. I think

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Speaker 1: that's a great term for now. But I don't think

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Speaker 1: I'm I think I'm past the point that I can

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Speaker 1: say it, you know what I mean. I mean, I

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Speaker 1: think I think every everyone wrongly agree with you. All right,

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01:05:22,600 --> 01:05:25,120
Speaker 1: let's get back to dress. All right, let's go back

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Speaker 1: to the topic of language, since this take in our

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01:05:27,680 --> 01:05:30,920
Speaker 1: previous discussion can tie into it. This from at Jerry Dulac,

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01:05:31,640 --> 01:05:35,400
Speaker 1: who said from the Irony of Ironies Department, Oklahoma Wide

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01:05:35,400 --> 01:05:38,880
Speaker 1: receiver Marquis Brown, Antonio's cousin will meet with the Steelers tonight.

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Speaker 1: That's not what It's not the irony of ironies either,

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01:05:44,040 --> 01:05:47,919
Speaker 1: and you let's that smell. It's trash takes with Patrick Clay.

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01:05:48,240 --> 01:05:51,840
Speaker 1: In fact, the Ironies department maybe you know, they're they're

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01:05:51,920 --> 01:05:54,000
Speaker 1: seeing some funding cuts and so they're they're trying to

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01:05:54,120 --> 01:05:58,120
Speaker 1: branch out. But that's that's just not there's nothing ironic

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01:05:58,160 --> 01:06:02,640
Speaker 1: about that. Like he's Antonio's cousin, and right, there's that's

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01:06:02,720 --> 01:06:04,640
Speaker 1: that's what's called the coincidence. This is actually that we've

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01:06:04,720 --> 01:06:06,840
Speaker 1: done this show so long that we're now I'm now

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01:06:06,960 --> 01:06:09,600
Speaker 1: remembering I used to make this point like five years

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01:06:09,640 --> 01:06:14,240
Speaker 1: ago on this show, that that people mistake coincidence for irony,

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01:06:14,480 --> 01:06:16,439
Speaker 1: and like we need to try to get the word

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01:06:16,560 --> 01:06:19,760
Speaker 1: out there of what's a coincidence? What's irony? Maybe claim

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01:06:19,800 --> 01:06:23,160
Speaker 1: bind or someone else could be an official, very nuanced word.

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Speaker 1: It's not easy for people to understand. In fact, Alana's

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01:06:27,600 --> 01:06:29,280
Speaker 1: tried to do everything she could to help us out

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01:06:29,320 --> 01:06:33,520
Speaker 1: by making a song without any ironic instances, which is

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Speaker 1: iron in itself. You know, yeah, well she yeah, she

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Speaker 1: did not help I don't think that was her. I

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01:06:37,880 --> 01:06:40,240
Speaker 1: don't think she was looking at it from in such

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01:06:40,280 --> 01:06:43,120
Speaker 1: a depth as you just did. But she didn't. She

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01:06:43,200 --> 01:06:45,520
Speaker 1: didn't help. Here's another my Homes one, this one from

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Speaker 1: at L Running three. Lee Running is the name he

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01:06:49,120 --> 01:06:52,640
Speaker 1: chose for himself. Baseball players make a lot less money

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01:06:52,720 --> 01:06:55,040
Speaker 1: in their first five to seven years than NFL players.

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Speaker 1: Oh wait, actually this is a no. This is my Homes.

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Speaker 1: This is my homes. Baseball has make a lot less

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Speaker 1: money in their first five to seven years in the

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Speaker 1: NFL players. So that's a weak argument. If he keeps

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01:07:05,200 --> 01:07:07,360
Speaker 1: playing like he did last year, he's going to get paid.

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01:07:07,720 --> 01:07:10,920
Speaker 1: He just needs to show a little more humility. I've

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01:07:10,960 --> 01:07:13,800
Speaker 1: been a Chiefs fan since I was a kid. Maybe

1330
01:07:13,880 --> 01:07:17,160
Speaker 1: no longer. This guy's gonna give up on the Chiefs

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01:07:17,560 --> 01:07:22,320
Speaker 1: because Mahomes isn't showing enough humility. You get to gather

1332
01:07:22,480 --> 01:07:30,959
Speaker 1: here franchise that has been boring for your entire life.

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01:07:31,240 --> 01:07:33,440
Speaker 1: Now that they're exciting, you're gonna give up because of

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01:07:33,600 --> 01:07:36,760
Speaker 1: some made up thing about humility. Well also because like

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01:07:36,800 --> 01:07:38,960
Speaker 1: I'm talking about cutting off your nose despite your fan

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01:07:39,080 --> 01:07:41,160
Speaker 1: what are we pointing to, right, I've ever been anything

1337
01:07:41,240 --> 01:07:44,280
Speaker 1: but just sort of a team replies to some commercial

1338
01:07:44,440 --> 01:07:48,240
Speaker 1: or something like Mahomes had a logo or yeah if

1339
01:07:48,280 --> 01:07:51,880
Speaker 1: you were. Yeah, that would be an annoying tweet pretty

1340
01:07:51,960 --> 01:07:54,600
Speaker 1: much about any quarterback in the NFL, but my homes also,

1341
01:07:54,840 --> 01:07:57,760
Speaker 1: it particularly doesn't seem to make any sense. Do we

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01:07:57,840 --> 01:08:00,840
Speaker 1: have one do we have one more we need to finish? Um? No,

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01:08:01,640 --> 01:08:03,520
Speaker 1: I don't want to leave. Not my friend. That was

1344
01:08:03,600 --> 01:08:06,000
Speaker 1: so strong that last one, well, yeah it was. It

1345
01:08:06,080 --> 01:08:08,840
Speaker 1: was strong. Shout out to Andy Benoit. His tweets are horrible. Um,

1346
01:08:09,320 --> 01:08:11,480
Speaker 1: Jamie Collins has done less with more talent than just

1347
01:08:11,560 --> 01:08:15,480
Speaker 1: about any starting NFL linebacker. It's just a weird thing

1348
01:08:15,520 --> 01:08:18,080
Speaker 1: to say, Like why you're diminishing the talent of all

1349
01:08:18,120 --> 01:08:20,400
Speaker 1: these other linebackers and saying that Jamie hasn't done anything.

1350
01:08:20,439 --> 01:08:23,040
Speaker 1: You had the torn mc l in two thousand seventeen.

1351
01:08:23,280 --> 01:08:25,479
Speaker 1: Was this from like yesterday or yes, it is from yesterday.

1352
01:08:25,479 --> 01:08:26,840
Speaker 1: I was looking for another bad tweet, so I just

1353
01:08:26,920 --> 01:08:31,719
Speaker 1: went he's saying he's done less with more than anyone else. Yeah,

1354
01:08:31,880 --> 01:08:36,200
Speaker 1: now that's wrong because there's so many NFL players. I mean,

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01:08:36,280 --> 01:08:38,720
Speaker 1: that's it's a bad take. Because Jamie Collins has had

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01:08:38,720 --> 01:08:40,960
Speaker 1: a good career. He hasn't had a great career, but

1357
01:08:41,080 --> 01:08:45,040
Speaker 1: he got a huge contract. He started a million games. Uh,

1358
01:08:45,240 --> 01:08:47,680
Speaker 1: you know he played in big moments like that. You

1359
01:08:47,760 --> 01:08:50,320
Speaker 1: could come up with a hundred people in the NFL

1360
01:08:50,400 --> 01:08:52,400
Speaker 1: that have gotten less out of more than Jamie Coin.

1361
01:08:52,520 --> 01:08:54,760
Speaker 1: Just diminishing the talent of a lot of people. And

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01:08:55,080 --> 01:08:59,200
Speaker 1: it's stupid. I don't like that one. How about all right,

1363
01:08:59,200 --> 01:09:02,280
Speaker 1: I'm gonna throw out one. Do it? It's from Pete Prisca.

1364
01:09:02,600 --> 01:09:05,640
Speaker 1: Oh there we go. Oh I do too. He's a

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01:09:05,680 --> 01:09:07,960
Speaker 1: great guy. I don't think he'd even mind this. It

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01:09:08,080 --> 01:09:11,040
Speaker 1: was just it was this, It was this. Uh, and

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01:09:11,400 --> 01:09:13,920
Speaker 1: this is just this is just sort of a group

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01:09:14,040 --> 01:09:16,080
Speaker 1: not gonna love it. This is just it's not a

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01:09:16,120 --> 01:09:18,479
Speaker 1: football take though. That's why I don't think it's Friday

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01:09:18,520 --> 01:09:21,679
Speaker 1: morning getting down. It's a very it's a very common

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01:09:22,000 --> 01:09:24,880
Speaker 1: it's a very common trash take on Twitter. And this

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01:09:25,120 --> 01:09:27,519
Speaker 1: was in response to some bill in the in the

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01:09:27,920 --> 01:09:30,920
Speaker 1: North Carolina government that they're gonna change the current their

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01:09:30,960 --> 01:09:34,560
Speaker 1: grading scale to make eight five and a remember the

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01:09:34,720 --> 01:09:38,240
Speaker 1: seventy of B. And his take was, this is the

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Speaker 1: participation trophy of grades. Can we get any softer as

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01:09:44,200 --> 01:09:47,599
Speaker 1: a as air? And this is just like in general,

1378
01:09:47,800 --> 01:09:50,799
Speaker 1: I don't like the can can we get any softer

1379
01:09:51,680 --> 01:09:56,320
Speaker 1: or you know, the youth of today, uh is softer bits,

1380
01:09:56,400 --> 01:09:59,400
Speaker 1: but only because that's the most consistent bit in human history.

1381
01:09:59,520 --> 01:10:04,240
Speaker 1: Every single generation, if you read the newspapers or any

1382
01:10:04,840 --> 01:10:09,519
Speaker 1: common media or anything from seventeen d eight hundred nine on,

1383
01:10:10,040 --> 01:10:13,519
Speaker 1: every single generation says that about the previous generation. You're

1384
01:10:13,520 --> 01:10:15,640
Speaker 1: hating down the food, with no exceptions. And when you

1385
01:10:15,800 --> 01:10:17,960
Speaker 1: like dive a little deeper into this, it's just like

1386
01:10:18,040 --> 01:10:19,720
Speaker 1: they might make the tests a little harder, and like

1387
01:10:20,200 --> 01:10:22,280
Speaker 1: it makes like it has nothing to do with getting well. Yeah,

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01:10:22,320 --> 01:10:24,400
Speaker 1: And in terms of that North Carolina, they're not changing

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01:10:24,439 --> 01:10:27,320
Speaker 1: the average grades necessarily, and one of the consistent things

1390
01:10:27,320 --> 01:10:30,680
Speaker 1: throughout history is people not reading the article exactly and

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01:10:30,880 --> 01:10:34,120
Speaker 1: in that, they're not altering the grade scale for students.

1392
01:10:34,160 --> 01:10:36,960
Speaker 1: They're ordering there are augmenting the grade scale for the

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01:10:37,080 --> 01:10:40,080
Speaker 1: schools in terms of their evaluation. And so what they've

1394
01:10:40,120 --> 01:10:42,639
Speaker 1: done is lower the standards for the school, not lower

1395
01:10:42,680 --> 01:10:44,479
Speaker 1: the standards for the student. I mean, where was this

1396
01:10:44,560 --> 01:10:45,840
Speaker 1: when I was in middle school? I don't care. It

1397
01:10:45,920 --> 01:10:47,800
Speaker 1: just sounds like I would have would have fared better.

1398
01:10:48,200 --> 01:10:51,400
Speaker 1: Various you know, flightly flagging quizzes left and right. But

1399
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Speaker 1: I want to mute the words partition, participations from every

1400
01:10:56,400 --> 01:10:59,599
Speaker 1: venue in my life. But also Greg, I would say

1401
01:10:59,680 --> 01:11:03,040
Speaker 1: that there is an inverse relationship between quality of life

1402
01:11:03,120 --> 01:11:07,200
Speaker 1: and toughness, and as quality of life improves tough or increases,

1403
01:11:07,280 --> 01:11:13,960
Speaker 1: toughness decreases. And I think evolution works against toughness. That

1404
01:11:15,000 --> 01:11:16,840
Speaker 1: if that were the case, Pete Prisco's tweets would be

1405
01:11:16,840 --> 01:11:20,240
Speaker 1: a lot better. That's that's a there's a lot to

1406
01:11:20,360 --> 01:11:23,679
Speaker 1: unpack there. And then the higher your quality of life,

1407
01:11:23,800 --> 01:11:26,880
Speaker 1: the less willing you are to endure tough times. It's

1408
01:11:26,920 --> 01:11:31,360
Speaker 1: trash takes. I think that I subscribe to that. I

1409
01:11:31,400 --> 01:11:33,479
Speaker 1: think Wes nailed that one. I think some people are

1410
01:11:33,520 --> 01:11:36,760
Speaker 1: better at things than other people. Yeah, I mean, Greg,

1411
01:11:36,880 --> 01:11:38,519
Speaker 1: you have to take that like, it's so much better

1412
01:11:38,680 --> 01:11:41,320
Speaker 1: to be alive now than it's back in medieval times

1413
01:11:41,320 --> 01:11:45,200
Speaker 1: because death by like age nine, No doubt it is.

1414
01:11:45,320 --> 01:11:48,400
Speaker 1: But it also is it's better to be like a

1415
01:11:48,560 --> 01:11:53,679
Speaker 1: lower like middle class person right now than it would

1416
01:11:53,720 --> 01:11:57,400
Speaker 1: be to be like the queen in sixteen fifty when okay,

1417
01:11:57,479 --> 01:12:00,920
Speaker 1: like five out of years, like eleven kids, EID and childbirth,

1418
01:12:01,120 --> 01:12:05,840
Speaker 1: your teeth are falling out. You're gonna die, You're gonna

1419
01:12:05,920 --> 01:12:09,960
Speaker 1: die at like thirty eight. It's always dark, Like it's

1420
01:12:10,000 --> 01:12:15,280
Speaker 1: not always dark, it's dark, it's dark all it's not

1421
01:12:15,439 --> 01:12:18,639
Speaker 1: all the time, but it's like at night, it's five

1422
01:12:18,680 --> 01:12:21,880
Speaker 1: o'clock right, like you you're walking around with candles. It's like, hey,

1423
01:12:22,000 --> 01:12:24,880
Speaker 1: you can't, Hey, where are you? I know, I largely agree.

1424
01:12:25,000 --> 01:12:27,599
Speaker 1: I largely agree, but I would prefer on some level

1425
01:12:27,800 --> 01:12:29,280
Speaker 1: to be able to like, oh, you're gonna go see

1426
01:12:29,280 --> 01:12:31,840
Speaker 1: your neighbor, ride a horse for two hours over like

1427
01:12:32,040 --> 01:12:35,360
Speaker 1: hill and Vale with no Twitter and no nonsense, and

1428
01:12:35,400 --> 01:12:37,000
Speaker 1: you don't have to be anywhere the next day at

1429
01:12:37,080 --> 01:12:39,679
Speaker 1: nine a m. To clock into some job. Time travel

1430
01:12:39,760 --> 01:12:41,920
Speaker 1: is always a shaking proposition for me, and I'd like

1431
01:12:42,000 --> 01:12:46,240
Speaker 1: to avoid it at all costs. Yeah, backwards at least. Wow,

1432
01:12:47,000 --> 01:12:49,080
Speaker 1: I think we've said it all. I think we've thrown

1433
01:12:49,160 --> 01:12:53,400
Speaker 1: those things garbage, and I think we've sent Erica out

1434
01:12:53,520 --> 01:12:55,360
Speaker 1: on a on a winning note. We will miss you

1435
01:12:55,479 --> 01:12:57,479
Speaker 1: next week to post. Yeah, I'm gonna miss you guys too.

1436
01:12:57,520 --> 01:12:59,800
Speaker 1: I will be listening, so be nice. So I know

1437
01:13:00,080 --> 01:13:04,880
Speaker 1: you're explained about your your Instagram content, so we'll we'll

1438
01:13:04,960 --> 01:13:07,799
Speaker 1: check that out. Everyone follow her there. Follow Patrick Claiban

1439
01:13:07,880 --> 01:13:11,559
Speaker 1: too on Twitter. Uh what a what a gentleman. Thank

1440
01:13:11,640 --> 01:13:14,120
Speaker 1: you for joining us. Hopefully, hopefully it won't be that

1441
01:13:14,200 --> 01:13:17,120
Speaker 1: long until we have have you back and we'll be

1442
01:13:17,200 --> 01:13:21,240
Speaker 1: back next week Monday, Wednesday and a third show to

1443
01:13:21,400 --> 01:13:23,679
Speaker 1: be decided what day we do it on. We've also

1444
01:13:23,760 --> 01:13:25,680
Speaker 1: got the Twitter Show on Wednesday. It is going to

1445
01:13:25,760 --> 01:13:28,800
Speaker 1: be a crazy week of free agency. And that's it.

1446
01:13:28,880 --> 01:13:33,840
Speaker 1: We're way over the time for the Quiet Storm, Marks

1447
01:13:35,040 --> 01:13:38,960
Speaker 1: scientist Chris Westley, Eric and Tam Posey, the Loose Cannon

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01:13:39,040 --> 01:13:43,679
Speaker 1: behind the Glass and Patrick Claiban See you Monday.