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Speaker 1: Hi, I'm Kristin Davis, and I want to know are

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Speaker 1: you a Charlotte? Hello, everybody, welcome to Are You a Charlotte?

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Speaker 1: Today we have one of my all time favorite people

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Speaker 1: on the planet earth. Mollie Rodgers are incredible costume designer

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Speaker 1: who work with Pat Field from the pretty much very

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Speaker 1: beginning of the show and then also designed and just

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Speaker 1: like that, and she is going to recap all the

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Speaker 1: outfits of season three when we really just jumped up

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Speaker 1: a whole level in terms of the fashion of the show.

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Speaker 1: So please enjoy. It's a fun time you guys. Mollie

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Speaker 1: Rodgers is with us, coming to us from the Bahamas. Oh,

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Speaker 1: we are jealous.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much for having me again. It's so

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Speaker 2: fun to talk to you.

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Speaker 1: I know, it's amazing to have you back. Thank you

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Speaker 1: for joining me from your vacation. Apparently a vacating I mean, what's.

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Speaker 2: Happening, I don't know. I just by the way, I

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Speaker 2: just want to say it's horrible here because I don't

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Speaker 2: want anybody coming. Well.

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Speaker 1: I saw the picture from on Instagram of the traffic,

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Speaker 1: which is of course a sandy sandy path. I was

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Speaker 1: just immediately filled with Josey.

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Speaker 2: I am not going to say anything about this. Paradise

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Speaker 2: is stantatic.

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Speaker 1: You're in a secret location.

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Speaker 2: I have done my homework. Oh good, looked at how

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Speaker 2: jam packed that season was.

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Speaker 1: I mean season three. We had to have you back

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Speaker 1: on to revisit season three because it is incredible.

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Speaker 2: There is so much in there. And can I just say,

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Speaker 2: and I don't know if this was your experience. Season

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Speaker 2: three was when we started going into stores and people

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Speaker 2: were like, oh, yeah, I know that ship decly really

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Speaker 2: starting to uh borrow, And yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I do absolutely remember that. And I feel like,

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Speaker 1: you know, Sarah Jessica. This is when I think, to me,

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Speaker 1: things clicked in my mind that Sarah Jessica had had

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Speaker 1: these previous relationships with designers, right and had known them

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Speaker 1: and gone to events with them, and she understood, you know,

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Speaker 1: kind of the personal side of it in terms of

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Speaker 1: how to go about that relationship and being respectful of course,

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Speaker 1: and returning everything when you were supposed to and all

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Speaker 1: of that. And that was when I started trying to find,

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Speaker 1: you know, who I liked number one, who fit me

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Speaker 1: number two and then trying to kind of develop those relationships,

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Speaker 1: whether it be through going to a fashion week to

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Speaker 1: their show or you know, getting to know, like the

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Speaker 1: personal shopper at Prada was our close friend for a

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Speaker 1: long time.

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Speaker 2: Oh that's right, Remember.

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Speaker 1: How she was fantasic?

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Speaker 2: I remember, yes, she was great. And I remember Kevin

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Speaker 2: to Who's There?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, amazing, amazing.

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Speaker 2: Well you educated yourself so so quickly because that was

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Speaker 2: kind of unexplored territory in a weird way for television.

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Speaker 1: Oh very much so. I mean obviously we were in television.

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Speaker 1: We were HBO.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, true, but I remember people we go to

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Speaker 2: ask for something and people were like sex in the City,

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Speaker 2: is that some show about more goat Like they didn't.

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Speaker 2: They wanted to see it first before they played with.

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Speaker 1: Us, Oh for sure, for sure. And I feel like

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Speaker 1: it was also the year, this is the year that

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Speaker 1: we got nominated for the Emmy, which was like for me, uh,

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Speaker 1: I remember everything about that so vividly, and the shock,

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Speaker 1: like the shocks, you remember how shocked we were, and

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Speaker 1: the fact that we then win it eventually like the

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Speaker 1: you know, and we always thought that the Sopranos would

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Speaker 1: it was so wonderful that we were thought of in that.

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Speaker 2: Way exactly, so heavy hitters, yeah in it. Yeah, I

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Speaker 2: just have to say, yeah, your hair, thank you, and

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Speaker 2: your skin oh always lawless, So thank you.

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Speaker 1: Baby. This is neglected hair that is very very long. Okay,

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Speaker 1: it's very very long and slightly dead on the ends

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Speaker 1: fantastic there on your bake cake.

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Speaker 2: Uh well, let's just say, oh, this paradise is not

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Speaker 2: telling you my GPS location at all. Never come here.

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Speaker 2: It's horrible.

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Speaker 1: I will not well not, but I'm happy that you're

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Speaker 1: getting some rest because we couldn't have you on for

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Speaker 2: I have. And it was, as you can imagine, an

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Speaker 1: Really, I'm just going to tell everybody. So Mollie was

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Speaker 1: doing the Devil Wars part of two. She was on

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Speaker 1: know Molly and Pat have been with us since the

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Speaker 1: very very beginning. Well, Molly was not on the pilot.

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Speaker 1: I guess right, but that's pretty much the very beginning

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Speaker 1: nineteen ninety eight. And we love her desperately, people desperately,

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Speaker 1: and as Sarah, Jessica and I have many, many, many

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Speaker 1: times discussed the level of detail that you bring to

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Speaker 1: everything you do is beyond like we have neither of

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Speaker 1: of detail of each button. Molly has an obsession with buttons.

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Speaker 1: You guys, you do buttons and tassels and trim okay, yeah, trim, prograin, ribbons, castles, buttons.

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Speaker 1: She has like a column in the you know, in

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Speaker 1: pictures on Instagram. I'll repost when we air this. She

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Speaker 1: go and she will find all these ribbons and bring

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Speaker 1: the ribbons back and make ear rings out of them

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Speaker 1: together obviously with our wonderful tailor Adrian or you know, totally.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure those ribbon stores and Buttons stores were probably

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Speaker 2: not there anymore. They are losing the garment center as

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Speaker 2: we speak. And I learned detail is for winners from

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Speaker 2: those control freaks Pat s j Can I guess you.

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Speaker 1: Oh no, you taught me, babe.

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Speaker 2: You attention to everything, and as we know these days,

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I mean, yeah, you were you were Minutia,

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Speaker 1: No, the Minutia is a little bit much. And as

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Speaker 1: you know, like continual paparazzi all day long, which you

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Speaker 1: guys also got on Prada, is I think in some

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Speaker 1: Like I remember when we came back with them just

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Speaker 1: because they don't know the plot or the story. Thank

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Speaker 1: goodness they don't, right, But you're seeing just you're being

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Speaker 1: inundated all day long with the paparazzi pictures on your Instagram,

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Speaker 1: and you're thinking, why is she wearing that? You know,

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Speaker 1: which is really unfair because the costumes are supposed to

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Speaker 1: tell a story. They're not just supposed to be great

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Speaker 2: Right, they're not commercials like I in the conjecture, which

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Speaker 2: why would she wear that? I just experienced the little

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Speaker 2: a teaser relation, Honey. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I follow everything because I love you so much and

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Speaker 1: so I'm always and I'm not. I don't even obviously

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Speaker 1: he texts you if it's stressy, because I'm like, I

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Speaker 1: know she's stressing, needs your warnings? Oh maybe I should

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Speaker 1: find the silver lining of the critique that's happening continually

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Speaker 1: is that when they first see something, right, when when Instagram, TikTok,

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Speaker 1: like why would Miranda Presley be wearing you know what,

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Speaker 1: you call them studs? What do they call which? What?

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Speaker 2: Why? Why?

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Speaker 1: Why? And then they were like, there's this shoe. There's

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Speaker 1: But like all the people and I love them all,

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Speaker 1: I love Nikki Bell, I'm all for them, and I

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Speaker 1: It's so scary, So I didn't go. I know, I'm

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Speaker 1: wanted to support. It was for Clooney, and I wanted

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Speaker 1: So I didn't go. But it's the same with these teasers. Right,

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Speaker 1: you put out a teaser. I thought it was fantastic,

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Speaker 1: and then first they're like, she would never wear a

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Speaker 2: That was what is the message here?

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Speaker 1: And I'm not saying Merrill chose that shoe. I don't

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Speaker 2: of course, but oh no. Sometimes you're in a room

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Speaker 2: with people like marketing people who think they know better

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Speaker 2: in a punch for a commercial, yeah, that's an attend

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Speaker 2: you know, that's like a bold statement. Was it character related? No?

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Speaker 2: Got it? So it was insisted on, and both shoes

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Speaker 2: mine and theirs was shot. And then when I saw

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Speaker 2: the teaser, I was, oh, Molly, yeah.

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Speaker 1: That's so upsetting. You guys, this is really important because

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Speaker 2: The director that has a very good, you know, very.

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Speaker 1: Frank Old David frank Old director, and he has a

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Speaker 1: good opinion and is respectful, I believe, you know, to Molly,

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Speaker 1: which is wonderful. And then the actor sometimes has opinions.

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Speaker 2: You know, certainly they have a onion or something.

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Speaker 1: Sure they might have They might have some some like

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Speaker 1: It's called where There's Smoke and we go to Staten Island. Now,

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Speaker 1: That is fabulous? But wait, did we have another piece?

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Speaker 1: Oh?

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Speaker 2: Got it?

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Speaker 1: Because yes, there's a one where it comes below her knee.

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Speaker 1: It is. Let me ask you. It's not pure Carden correct. No, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I don't think so.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Wow, that's interesting. I mean, Sarah Jessica feels like

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Speaker 1: it's a vintage no name that came from Ina, you

434
00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:24,360
Speaker 1: know in the very beginning, right, she could.

435
00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:28,320
Speaker 2: Be right, I remember, you know, as you do find

436
00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:34,679
Speaker 2: in vintage coats someone's monogrammed initials in the chest.

437
00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:36,199
Speaker 1: Rh right, like a person.

438
00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:41,320
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, that would be definitely passed down through

439
00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:44,040
Speaker 2: to Aina. But I just found that to be so

440
00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:47,800
Speaker 2: interesting to find that it had a piece that came away.

441
00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:50,480
Speaker 1: It's very cool. Now look at this crazy fur that

442
00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:55,560
Speaker 1: she's got Kim in here for the fire station, I believe,

443
00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:58,160
Speaker 1: and then takes it off.

444
00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:02,359
Speaker 2: I have a little story for you if you're interested. Yes,

445
00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:07,600
Speaker 2: number one that was in the Cole Miller dress, which

446
00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:13,480
Speaker 2: I'm sure you remember Miller. Yes, And I'll never forget

447
00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:22,159
Speaker 2: that night, Kim insisted on taping her ankles in white

448
00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:27,119
Speaker 2: gauze so she could slide down the pole easier. And

449
00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:29,760
Speaker 2: if you watch that episode, you see it.

450
00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:35,760
Speaker 1: What I must rewatch? I didn't even notice, well something,

451
00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:39,360
Speaker 1: How did she even know that? That's so interesting?

452
00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:44,200
Speaker 2: She thought it would grease her better? Wow? See them

453
00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:45,600
Speaker 2: if you're looking.

454
00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:47,760
Speaker 1: I'm going to look back now, I'm going to look back.

455
00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:50,560
Speaker 1: I mean, I thought the whole thing was very bold.

456
00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:53,600
Speaker 1: I had not really remembered everything that she did. And

457
00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:56,600
Speaker 1: she looks so cute when she puts the little suspenders

458
00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:57,440
Speaker 1: over her naked eye.

459
00:24:57,520 --> 00:24:59,920
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, that was That's cute.

460
00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:02,800
Speaker 1: It's pretty good. It's pretty good. But I think that

461
00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:05,000
Speaker 1: Pat took all the furs that I wouldn't wear and

462
00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:06,440
Speaker 1: just made Kim wear bear furs.

463
00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:11,360
Speaker 2: Totally totally. That color is too hot for Charlotte. Give

464
00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:12,359
Speaker 2: it over to Savantha.

465
00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:15,760
Speaker 1: Oh for sure, for sure. I mean also I think

466
00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:17,920
Speaker 1: that it would swallow me and you couldn't see my head,

467
00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:21,880
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It's a lot of coat.

468
00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:23,440
Speaker 1: It's a lot of coat. She can pull it off.

469
00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:27,600
Speaker 1: I think also when we see Sarah with slattery is

470
00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:30,440
Speaker 1: when we really start to see the flowers. So I

471
00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:34,120
Speaker 1: was wondering if you remember, how did it start? Did

472
00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:35,440
Speaker 1: you realize what you were doing?

473
00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:41,639
Speaker 2: Like Jeska came in that season and said, I'm into flowers.

474
00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:46,520
Speaker 2: What she saw that inspired her? I don't remember the

475
00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:50,240
Speaker 2: person in history that she was like, I want to

476
00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:54,520
Speaker 2: bring those back. So someone went to the fancy, fancy

477
00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:58,680
Speaker 2: flower pace on fourteenth Street and just got boxes of them.

478
00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:03,560
Speaker 2: And it was a really great thing to introduce. It's

479
00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:06,840
Speaker 2: it was so viral, you know.

480
00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:09,399
Speaker 1: I know it still is. It still is. So you

481
00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:13,000
Speaker 1: guys just got a bunch of fake flower pins or

482
00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:15,280
Speaker 1: just fake flowers and so so them on things.

483
00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:19,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they were so beautiful from that store had

484
00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:23,120
Speaker 2: such a fabulous name like Sherman and Oaks.

485
00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:28,399
Speaker 1: That's fine. Did we have Nile at this time on

486
00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:31,560
Speaker 1: the show as our tailor? I think so, I feel

487
00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:34,040
Speaker 1: like we must have, right, she was so amazing also

488
00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:39,119
Speaker 1: or trillion, oh trillion, trillion, so great, Oh my gosh, trillion.

489
00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:40,040
Speaker 1: We've had some.

490
00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:44,760
Speaker 2: We all we broke all their spirits.

491
00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:50,440
Speaker 1: Because you guys, there's no harder job. No, I know,

492
00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:55,000
Speaker 1: every single outfit for every single person has to be

493
00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:57,240
Speaker 1: tailored within an inch of.

494
00:26:57,160 --> 00:27:04,520
Speaker 2: His life, absolutely tailoring jeans for Carrie I Burger. Burger

495
00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:08,119
Speaker 2: wanted his T shirt sleeve a quarter of an inch shorter,

496
00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:10,600
Speaker 2: which almost we lost our minds.

497
00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:15,439
Speaker 1: See it's the people you least expect, right, Like if

498
00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:17,640
Speaker 1: you look at Sir A Jessica and you were like, yes,

499
00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:19,240
Speaker 1: that would be hard to find jeans that would fit

500
00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:22,159
Speaker 1: that tiny little body. That makes sense, but right, you know,

501
00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:26,560
Speaker 1: it doesn't necessarily make sense that Burger would want his

502
00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:40,720
Speaker 1: T shirts accord. That's interesting. I did want to touch

503
00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:43,480
Speaker 1: on John Corbett as well, because he shows up here

504
00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:47,040
Speaker 1: right for the first time, John baby face John.

505
00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:49,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh that's a story.

506
00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:54,360
Speaker 1: I mean, tell us, okay, and then you know.

507
00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:57,199
Speaker 2: All these little tidbits. I mean, it's just what happened.

508
00:27:57,240 --> 00:27:59,920
Speaker 2: I mean, no one any harm. Of course, you know,

509
00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:09,520
Speaker 2: his reservation jewelry was a big talking point. I remember

510
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:15,399
Speaker 2: hated it, but in order to get him to wear

511
00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:18,720
Speaker 2: some of the shirts she was interested in, she had

512
00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:19,520
Speaker 2: to compromise.

513
00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:20,440
Speaker 1: Got it.

514
00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:24,960
Speaker 2: But in hindsight that was a mist you know, in

515
00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:29,640
Speaker 2: my opinion, I don't think he needed jewelry like that.

516
00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:33,520
Speaker 1: It was interesting when I watched it because obviously I

517
00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:36,720
Speaker 1: know Corbett and I obviously know that is his jewelry,

518
00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:41,840
Speaker 1: but and I also know that that's his double denim.

519
00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:46,680
Speaker 1: You know, Okay, I do? I mean don't we all right?

520
00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:50,080
Speaker 1: Because Corbett is a pretty big personality. He's not somebody

521
00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:52,280
Speaker 1: who's just like, oh yeah, wear whatever you want. That's

522
00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:54,640
Speaker 1: just not who John is. He has a lot of opinions,

523
00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:57,560
Speaker 1: and you know, feels very much like this is who

524
00:28:57,600 --> 00:28:59,800
Speaker 1: the character is or isn't. But the thing, which I

525
00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:02,680
Speaker 1: me too, I mean, you need that, and I think

526
00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:06,320
Speaker 1: that in our world from the men, you really needed

527
00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:10,240
Speaker 1: that because you know, they needed to be feeling confident

528
00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:13,000
Speaker 1: and like they could make their own statement right because

529
00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:16,120
Speaker 1: it was so much our show, right, Yeah, we got it.

530
00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:17,000
Speaker 2: To them right.

531
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:18,040
Speaker 1: It was hard.

532
00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:20,520
Speaker 2: They wanted to be one of the divas.

533
00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:23,320
Speaker 1: For sure, and more power too though I'm all for it.

534
00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:27,360
Speaker 1: But like for him, when I look back on the show,

535
00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:30,240
Speaker 1: first of all, I didn't remember him having that little babyface.

536
00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:34,280
Speaker 1: It really just like, oh that little baby face. John

537
00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:37,720
Speaker 1: is just something right and long hair. He is so

538
00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:44,600
Speaker 1: one million percent the anti big that it is powerful, right,

539
00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:48,520
Speaker 1: and the jewelry kind of takes it further. Yes, So

540
00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:51,440
Speaker 1: from that perspective, I got it like, he's not New

541
00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:56,920
Speaker 1: York City, he's not you know, fashion, he's his own thing.

542
00:29:57,640 --> 00:29:59,680
Speaker 2: That's really important to bring up.

543
00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:00,640
Speaker 1: Yeah.

544
00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:03,800
Speaker 2: No, but Pat, as a true New Yorker, did not

545
00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:09,120
Speaker 2: understand a turquoise ring, you know by huge huge. She

546
00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:12,680
Speaker 2: was not interested. I love it, I get it, I

547
00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:13,360
Speaker 2: get it right.

548
00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:15,320
Speaker 1: And then there's this one thing I want to talk

549
00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:16,800
Speaker 1: about too, because it has to do with him. And

550
00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:18,680
Speaker 1: I don't know if it was you guys or him,

551
00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:20,480
Speaker 1: because one of the things when I look at the

552
00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:23,280
Speaker 1: show the old really because now we're in two thousand,

553
00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:25,080
Speaker 1: which is really right on the cusp of the nineties.

554
00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:27,880
Speaker 1: Right when he comes to my wedding, which he doesn't

555
00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:29,760
Speaker 1: come to, right, aiden doesn't come because they end up

556
00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:32,680
Speaker 1: breaking up, remember this outside of the wedding. But he's

557
00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:36,040
Speaker 1: dressed to come to the wedding. He's wearing this massive suit, okay,

558
00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:38,720
Speaker 1: and it's brown and it's like not tailored, it's like

559
00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:41,320
Speaker 1: kind of flowy. It's strange.

560
00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:45,960
Speaker 2: About first of all, when I saw your note about that,

561
00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:51,280
Speaker 2: I was like, uh, brown, that that's so odd, right,

562
00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:56,520
Speaker 2: you know, And I think there were big discussions about

563
00:30:56,680 --> 00:31:01,720
Speaker 2: this guy doesn't alter his clothes, oh not turned you know,

564
00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:04,040
Speaker 2: he didn't go to a tailor, he didn't go into

565
00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:06,480
Speaker 2: the store and say, you know, I thought it was

566
00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:10,920
Speaker 2: something like opinions that wanted it, you know, not ill fitting.

567
00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:14,520
Speaker 1: And it really was. It really was at the point

568
00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:17,480
Speaker 1: where I was like, what's going on. But also at

569
00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:20,760
Speaker 1: that point in time because the season before, We've got

570
00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:24,760
Speaker 1: Big getting engaged in Natasha and he's also wearing a

571
00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:28,360
Speaker 1: brown jacket and I'm like, oh, the brown, like and

572
00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:30,280
Speaker 1: it's not the brown that we would use now if

573
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:32,720
Speaker 1: we did use brown. Right, it's like a bat.

574
00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:38,360
Speaker 2: Pet loves chocolate suits and they're so hard to find,

575
00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:41,800
Speaker 2: or they were then, and whenever she saw one, she

576
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:45,240
Speaker 2: was like, somebody's wearing that. No way, she loved them.

577
00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:51,120
Speaker 2: That's weird, as they were so sexy and chocolatey, and.

578
00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:55,800
Speaker 1: I don't know, that's super interesting. It's also to me

579
00:31:56,800 --> 00:32:00,360
Speaker 1: there was like a change happening in suiting for men,

580
00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:03,120
Speaker 1: but it hadn't really happened yet, Like tom Ford hadn't

581
00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:05,520
Speaker 1: really happened yet. You know, there were things that were

582
00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:07,960
Speaker 1: coming that were going to really change tailoring, how we

583
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:10,760
Speaker 1: looked at tailoring, what we expected, and whereas we had

584
00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:13,320
Speaker 1: always been beautifully tailored because he was he was playing

585
00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:16,720
Speaker 1: like a you know, media dude or whatever. Right, find out,

586
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:20,760
Speaker 1: do whatever he's supposed to be. But everyone else is

587
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:23,400
Speaker 1: You're like, huh, what are they wearing? But I kind

588
00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:24,800
Speaker 1: of like that. Okay, wait, I have a question.

589
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:27,800
Speaker 2: Funny I need to watch that again. For John's brown suit,

590
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:30,520
Speaker 2: that's hilarious. It's like top and then on it just

591
00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:32,640
Speaker 2: like that. We had him in a suit that didn't

592
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:35,280
Speaker 2: fit when he went to that other remember that.

593
00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:37,360
Speaker 1: Yes, but that was a story point, right, But then

594
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:40,400
Speaker 1: they cut that scene, didn't they did? They cut the

595
00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:43,160
Speaker 1: scene where he they think there's a big and tall

596
00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:47,080
Speaker 1: shop on the corner, but it's gone. I think we

597
00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:47,960
Speaker 1: refer to it.

598
00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:49,080
Speaker 2: We refer to it.

599
00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:51,640
Speaker 1: But he's got those short pants. But it's so funny.

600
00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:54,440
Speaker 1: It's really, it's so obviously funny. Did you not think

601
00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:56,120
Speaker 1: it was funny? Were you dying?

602
00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:59,080
Speaker 2: We did. We were hoping that you would see that

603
00:32:59,160 --> 00:32:59,880
Speaker 2: they were short.

604
00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:02,840
Speaker 1: I think you did. When he's walking down the street

605
00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:05,840
Speaker 1: with her, you know, towy us. I mean, it's pretty obvious.

606
00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:09,200
Speaker 1: It's pretty obvious. I mean it is funny, you know.

607
00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:12,480
Speaker 1: I don't think people also realize how tall Corbett is.

608
00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:16,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, well you do when you see them together in

609
00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:17,680
Speaker 2: a closet or.

610
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:21,360
Speaker 1: You know, but somehow those tiptoes.

611
00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:24,360
Speaker 2: He is a tall drink of water.

612
00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:27,320
Speaker 1: He is a tall drink of water and a sweetheart.

613
00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:28,120
Speaker 2: All right.

614
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:30,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm still trying to talk him into coming on

615
00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:32,920
Speaker 1: the podcast. So if you run into him, also.

616
00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:36,560
Speaker 2: I will, Yeah, I will pester him, thank you.

617
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:40,480
Speaker 1: I know, right, we need his voice, we need his memories.

618
00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:43,520
Speaker 2: He's got great stories.

619
00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:46,360
Speaker 1: Right right, we need it. I'll do my best. I'm trying.

620
00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:49,160
Speaker 1: I've been texting him, but he's not responding. All right.

621
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:49,920
Speaker 1: This is Carrie.

622
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:54,280
Speaker 2: When we dance on the dance floor dancing.

623
00:33:53,880 --> 00:34:01,240
Speaker 1: To that to yep, I think so yes, that's so great.

624
00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:04,959
Speaker 2: You two are so distinctive in your dance moves. I

625
00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:05,959
Speaker 2: love that scene.

626
00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:08,320
Speaker 1: I think we had that choreographer there. Do you remember

627
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:10,880
Speaker 1: how anytime it said the word dance, she'd be like,

628
00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:15,279
Speaker 1: where's the choreographer coming, even if it was just casual. Yeah,

629
00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:17,640
Speaker 1: because it was scary. You know, we were scared. We

630
00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:21,279
Speaker 1: were always scared. I'm dancing, you know what I mean?

631
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:24,759
Speaker 1: You know, and I'm happy. I'm happy that we did.

632
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:27,480
Speaker 1: I also, I have that bag that I have on

633
00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:30,359
Speaker 1: my on my arm when I'm dancing. I think it's

634
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:34,880
Speaker 1: Selene and it's white. It's like a white rhymestone. I

635
00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:38,680
Speaker 1: should have brought that in body cool exactly. I do

636
00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:39,120
Speaker 1: have it.

637
00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:39,360
Speaker 2: I do.

638
00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:42,759
Speaker 1: I have two of them because at some point, Yeah,

639
00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:45,960
Speaker 1: isn't that strange? It doesn't look anything like Selena of today?

640
00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:48,960
Speaker 2: Nothing, that's pretty impressive. I'm glad you have it. I

641
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:51,680
Speaker 2: can't wait to talk about another outfit of yours. I'm

642
00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:54,359
Speaker 2: praying you have it, which well I'll hold, I'll.

643
00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:57,080
Speaker 1: Well, you always get it. No, no, whatever's on your mind.

644
00:34:57,120 --> 00:35:01,560
Speaker 2: Go it's fun halts or dress that ties in the front.

645
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:06,080
Speaker 1: When Tiffany's yes, A course, that's a good one. And

646
00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:09,839
Speaker 1: apparently it's for Sachi. Is that right? I don't even

647
00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:11,520
Speaker 1: know for that? No?

648
00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:13,680
Speaker 2: Is it Glare? Yeah?

649
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:16,480
Speaker 1: I thought it was about Glare too. Sometimes the Internet

650
00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:18,520
Speaker 1: has things wrong, you guys. I don't want to break

651
00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:22,880
Speaker 1: anybody's or anything, but sometimes I look at the little captions.

652
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:25,440
Speaker 1: I'm like, no, no, that's not it. Here we go.

653
00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:27,319
Speaker 1: It's a good one. It's a really good one. And

654
00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:28,120
Speaker 1: I feel like.

655
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:30,799
Speaker 2: We have had Darren perfect with that.

656
00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:33,080
Speaker 1: Thank you. They did great, didn't they I think this

657
00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:35,840
Speaker 1: is why I had that really nice French guy. Was

658
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:39,040
Speaker 1: his name like Pierre. Maybe he used to give me

659
00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:42,359
Speaker 1: the most amazing blowout. My whole neck would be like

660
00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:45,640
Speaker 1: getting pulled off my off my shoulders in the trailer.

661
00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:47,320
Speaker 1: But it was worth it, you know what I'm saying.

662
00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:51,120
Speaker 2: Wow, Like he just like to manipulate hair, big time,

663
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:55,920
Speaker 2: big time movie star Elizabeth taking Thanks babe.

664
00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:58,040
Speaker 1: I mean I think what we were going for because

665
00:35:58,080 --> 00:35:59,560
Speaker 1: we knew we were going to end up this is

666
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:02,480
Speaker 1: mcdou Charles McDougall's directing this, which, of course one of

667
00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:05,840
Speaker 1: my all time favorites. I thought he really understood a

668
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:08,280
Speaker 1: great guy, and he understood Charlotte, and he understood Charlotte

669
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:11,160
Speaker 1: and Trey, and he always had like such interesting creative

670
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:13,800
Speaker 1: camera things he would do, you know, and he always

671
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:16,560
Speaker 1: came to work in that beautiful suit. So he understood fashion.

672
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:19,319
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, he was a cool cucumber, that one.

673
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:20,080
Speaker 1: He really was.

674
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:20,640
Speaker 2: Yeah.

675
00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:22,440
Speaker 1: So I think we were going for like an Audrey

676
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:26,840
Speaker 1: hepburn esque, but like modern and casual version, you know,

677
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:28,960
Speaker 1: like not trying too hard. Right.

678
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:33,520
Speaker 2: It looks so amazing in that dress, Thank you, baby.

679
00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:35,160
Speaker 2: That holds up for it.

680
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:37,279
Speaker 1: It definitely does, and I don't own it, which is

681
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:39,160
Speaker 1: really sad. But can I tell you there's some really

682
00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:41,840
Speaker 1: funny details here. So number one, we have done this dress,

683
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:44,640
Speaker 1: different versions of this dress through the years, Like do

684
00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:48,400
Speaker 1: you remember in the movie I have a white version

685
00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:50,799
Speaker 1: which I think is also Moudglair, which I do own.

686
00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:54,719
Speaker 1: That's like a rap it wraps around and is backless

687
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:58,279
Speaker 1: that we wore when I have that Hot Nanny. Do

688
00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:00,719
Speaker 1: you remember that when Hot Nanny gets out Asloma with

689
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:06,080
Speaker 1: her zooms nipples exactly? And I love that dress. That

690
00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:08,160
Speaker 1: that dress you could get out and wear right now.

691
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:15,000
Speaker 2: No, no, totally. That is a classic Charlotte silhouette, backless halter,

692
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:19,200
Speaker 2: full skirt. It's just a no brainer.

693
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:21,080
Speaker 1: Love it. Then I have these, I don't know if

694
00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:23,200
Speaker 1: you can see them. There's some kind of strappy shoe.

695
00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:26,759
Speaker 1: It's white. I literally have worn that shoe in many

696
00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:30,799
Speaker 1: different iterations through the years, including in and just like that.

697
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:34,240
Speaker 1: Do you remember when you go to her and over

698
00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:37,680
Speaker 1: right over and over and over we go to stock

699
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:41,239
Speaker 1: Natasha down in the in soho on the pebbles and

700
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:42,600
Speaker 1: I'm wearing these with that.

701
00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:45,480
Speaker 2: Amelia MAXI.

702
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:49,279
Speaker 1: Yes, the sailboat dress. I know, isn't that funny? I

703
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:51,839
Speaker 1: don't even think we're intellectually doing it.

704
00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:57,400
Speaker 2: No, I think it's part of our cell DNA totally.

705
00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:02,719
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I love it. Wait, I don't even know.

706
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:05,000
Speaker 1: I'm not really in order, but it's fun times, so

707
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:05,440
Speaker 1: I don't care.

708
00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:07,600
Speaker 2: Okay, sorry, no, No, I totally.

709
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:11,400
Speaker 1: Now for some reason, I'm I'm in episode ten, but

710
00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:13,120
Speaker 1: I think that's because I had to find them moveglair.

711
00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:15,640
Speaker 1: But it just reminds me that I have this Donna

712
00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:18,279
Speaker 1: Karen dress that I wore. Do you remember this? The

713
00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:21,680
Speaker 1: blue Donna Karen to the engagement party yesterday? I know

714
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:24,479
Speaker 1: I still own this, It's in storage, and.

715
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:28,080
Speaker 2: I remember how much she loved that dress. I passionately

716
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:30,560
Speaker 2: you find that dress and make us get it.

717
00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:33,040
Speaker 1: I think I did. But when I look at it,

718
00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:35,719
Speaker 1: I think it's a weird choice, and I think it's

719
00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:40,759
Speaker 1: so interesting. Like I don't know what was going on

720
00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:45,200
Speaker 1: in my own mind other than that. As you started

721
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:47,960
Speaker 1: the talking about the season, saying it was when we

722
00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:51,680
Speaker 1: really did get to start really borrowing designer stuff, and

723
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:54,800
Speaker 1: I remember feeling like I couldn't fit in designer stuff

724
00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:57,160
Speaker 1: because it was still very narrow in the hips, how

725
00:38:57,200 --> 00:39:00,120
Speaker 1: they were cutting things, and so I was always so

726
00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:01,919
Speaker 1: anxious that I wasn't going to be able to fit

727
00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:04,040
Speaker 1: into it, which is actually part of how I found product,

728
00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:07,600
Speaker 1: because Prada is cut in a more like nineteen forties way,

729
00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:12,239
Speaker 1: you know, right, more like for hips and waist and

730
00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:16,239
Speaker 1: all the things, and Donna Karen is like so user friendly. Right,

731
00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:19,480
Speaker 1: So this is Donna Karen, and it's a very cool

732
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:23,560
Speaker 1: and weird dress and in some ways also kind of

733
00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:26,279
Speaker 1: not in some ways when I look at it, not

734
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:29,080
Speaker 1: what Charlotte would actually be wearing to her engagement party

735
00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:30,879
Speaker 1: with Trey and Bunny.

736
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:37,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's very watery and soft chiffon.

737
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:41,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, my pissy and self took over and you somehow let.

738
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:45,480
Speaker 2: Me let's say pat was into that.

739
00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:47,640
Speaker 1: She must have been. And the thing that I do

740
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:50,680
Speaker 1: like about it is that is that here Charlotte is

741
00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:54,680
Speaker 1: marrying into this like you know, bastion of.

742
00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:57,359
Speaker 2: Preppiness story family, right like.

743
00:39:57,480 --> 00:40:00,960
Speaker 1: UPTI Bunny's wearing all the you know, Chanelle boxy jackets

744
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:04,759
Speaker 1: and everything, and she shows up in this, which in

745
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:07,239
Speaker 1: some ways I think is great because like she could

746
00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:09,239
Speaker 1: have just looked like everybody else. She could have been

747
00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:12,600
Speaker 1: wearing pearls. She could have been wearing chanel. You know,

748
00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:16,120
Speaker 1: hair ribbons exactly, all the things that we do.

749
00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:20,160
Speaker 2: Later, right, a dupe of Bunny exactly.

750
00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:22,760
Speaker 1: But I love that she didn't, that we didn't.

751
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:24,200
Speaker 2: That was that was cool.

752
00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:26,600
Speaker 1: But I don't know if I meant it odd? You

753
00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:29,279
Speaker 1: know what I mean, isn't it? It is odd? And

754
00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:31,160
Speaker 1: I kept this thing and I'm so glad and I

755
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:32,680
Speaker 1: should get it out, but I feel like I'm too

756
00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:46,040
Speaker 1: old to wear it. I don't know. Wait, speaking of

757
00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:49,040
Speaker 1: our silhouette, look at what I'm wearing. This might be

758
00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:51,680
Speaker 1: the versace. Look at what I'm wearing in Vera Wang

759
00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:55,360
Speaker 1: with Anthony again, another halter. You guys were on a

760
00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:56,120
Speaker 1: roll here.

761
00:40:56,239 --> 00:41:01,520
Speaker 2: That you have beautiful shoulders. Oh god, I love this.

762
00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:04,279
Speaker 2: I think that's correctly identified.

763
00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:06,600
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I do, I do, I do, and I

764
00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:09,319
Speaker 1: don't own it sadly. It's really good. I wish I did.

765
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:12,120
Speaker 1: It's really good. It's also funny because this is good.

766
00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:14,600
Speaker 1: A tiny, tiny hounds tooth, which I'm sure they probably

767
00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:16,760
Speaker 1: told us would stroke and it so didn't.

768
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:21,640
Speaker 2: Well. Wow, I love the detail of that front chest

769
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:25,840
Speaker 2: me too, so beautifully and that is very appropriate.

770
00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:32,000
Speaker 1: Very appropriate, very appropriate with Anthony and Vera Wang. Definitely. Now,

771
00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:33,960
Speaker 1: let's just talk about the wedding for a second. I

772
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:37,360
Speaker 1: think you and I talked about the wedding before, and many,

773
00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:43,040
Speaker 1: many fucking headlines were written. Okay about how when I

774
00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:46,040
Speaker 1: jokingly said, you know, I think Sir Jessica's still mad

775
00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:49,480
Speaker 1: at me about those bridesmaids dresses. I mean literally like

776
00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:52,560
Speaker 1: thirty headlines, Sir Jessica angry with Kristin Davis.

777
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:55,080
Speaker 2: No, you fill me in.

778
00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:57,880
Speaker 1: I'm joking, Okay, so remember.

779
00:41:58,080 --> 00:41:59,320
Speaker 2: Tell me everything.

780
00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:02,440
Speaker 1: Okay, So I'm getting married, Charlotte's getting married right in

781
00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:06,279
Speaker 1: our Vera Wang, which I have a literal stack of

782
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:09,000
Speaker 1: polaroids of our fittings that we did, which I will

783
00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:12,520
Speaker 1: get to in a second. But what I remember, and

784
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:14,560
Speaker 1: you tell me what you remember. So here are my

785
00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:20,440
Speaker 1: ladies wearing slightly different versions of a beige satin dress

786
00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:23,640
Speaker 1: right like, Yes, they have their own neckline which is really.

787
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:25,799
Speaker 2: Adorable, correct, which is really great.

788
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:26,479
Speaker 1: Really great?

789
00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:27,680
Speaker 2: Did make those?

790
00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:30,560
Speaker 1: I believe so, but I'm not one hundred percent sure. Yeah,

791
00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:33,600
Speaker 1: either Vera or badgly Mishka, because my other dresses that

792
00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:37,080
Speaker 1: we tried on were Badgley mishka, that's right, And then

793
00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:40,640
Speaker 1: I wear badly mishka for Charlotte's second wedding because they

794
00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:45,560
Speaker 1: are like lovely individuals. Anyway, the second one, I know.

795
00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:47,600
Speaker 1: But what I remember about this is that there was

796
00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:51,880
Speaker 1: some debate about whether or not everyone would be wearing

797
00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:55,680
Speaker 1: matching bridesmaid's dresses and did they have to be this

798
00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:59,480
Speaker 1: color because certain people did.

799
00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:02,960
Speaker 2: Not did not want to that collar, right, Okay, I'm

800
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:04,280
Speaker 2: with you, right.

801
00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:06,040
Speaker 1: And I remember there being a lot of debate.

802
00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:08,440
Speaker 2: I remember this, And I remember.

803
00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:10,600
Speaker 1: Also there's being like a ton of debate about my

804
00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:13,600
Speaker 1: wedding dress, even though when you really look at all

805
00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:16,879
Speaker 1: the all the pictures, I mean, we had like ten

806
00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:19,319
Speaker 1: wedding dresses that were all amazing and could have been great,

807
00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:21,280
Speaker 1: but there were so many cooks in the kitchen.

808
00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:25,120
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. This was This calls the war, I believe.

809
00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:29,279
Speaker 2: I believe it did. It pretty pretty discussed, let's say,

810
00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:31,000
Speaker 2: helpfully discussed.

811
00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:32,600
Speaker 1: Healthfully discussed for quite some time.

812
00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:33,359
Speaker 2: I think.

813
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:35,320
Speaker 1: That's the other thing is that there was a big

814
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:38,239
Speaker 1: lead up to it, right, so it gave everyone time

815
00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:41,399
Speaker 1: the way in and then spin around and spin around,

816
00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:43,840
Speaker 1: I know, And I remember my at a certain point,

817
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:46,120
Speaker 1: I didn't care. I didn't care at all. I was

818
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:49,239
Speaker 1: just like, whatever, they're all great. I don't know, you

819
00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:51,520
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like I think that the idea

820
00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:55,759
Speaker 1: with Charlotte, because we all knew it would be very traditional,

821
00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:59,360
Speaker 1: you know, big whatever you would call it, right, But

822
00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:01,000
Speaker 1: like I have here, I don't know if you can

823
00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:03,840
Speaker 1: see where they're like more fitted, they're less poofy. This

824
00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:06,000
Speaker 1: is the one I ended up in, which is very poofy.

825
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:09,200
Speaker 1: But then there was also the veil conversation, like how

826
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:12,000
Speaker 1: long this veil is, like down to the bottom of

827
00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:15,799
Speaker 1: the dress. But I had to lift the veil cathedral,

828
00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:17,839
Speaker 1: thank you, you know the words. I had to lift

829
00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:19,879
Speaker 1: the veil, you know, in that scene with her. This

830
00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:22,520
Speaker 1: is a different silhouette, but all so beautiful. I mean,

831
00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:25,000
Speaker 1: there's so many that I could have worn. But I

832
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:28,319
Speaker 1: think there were just a lot of thoughts about you know.

833
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:30,279
Speaker 2: A lot of cooks in that.

834
00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:35,279
Speaker 1: So, yeah, here's a different veil that's quite poofy. You know,

835
00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:37,719
Speaker 1: it was like is it going to be poofy? And

836
00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:39,399
Speaker 1: then I don't know if I remember when I got

837
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:42,440
Speaker 1: married the second time, Michael Patrick sent down his note

838
00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:45,920
Speaker 1: that I had to be wearing a Shantilly lace veil.

839
00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:50,880
Speaker 1: Do you remember this? And we were like why, what

840
00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:53,520
Speaker 1: do you mean? And he said, because Charlotte Elizabeth Taylor

841
00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:56,839
Speaker 1: wore went in one of her many weddings. And we

842
00:44:56,840 --> 00:44:59,040
Speaker 1: were like, okay, but we already picked the dress, Like,

843
00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:03,040
Speaker 1: h maybe we needed to know that before we picked

844
00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:05,319
Speaker 1: the dress. I think we just wore it and it

845
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:07,080
Speaker 1: was what it was, you know what I'm saying.

846
00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:09,920
Speaker 2: It was all the body came out on the internet

847
00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:13,319
Speaker 2: after you and tried to like crucify because guess what,

848
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:15,200
Speaker 2: there wasn't one.

849
00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:20,080
Speaker 1: Exactly we could create in peace. This is an adorable picture.

850
00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:22,080
Speaker 1: It's a much more fitted dress. And there's Pat in

851
00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:23,880
Speaker 1: the background in her bucket hat. I don't know if

852
00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:26,520
Speaker 1: you can see her. She's so cute. And then I

853
00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:29,960
Speaker 1: have one here somewhere. This is a tight one. I'm

854
00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:32,200
Speaker 1: sure everybody was like, no, Charlotte wouldn't wear that, and

855
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:34,440
Speaker 1: I probably really wanted to wear that. There's one. This

856
00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:36,680
Speaker 1: is one where I have like a very poofy veil on.

857
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:39,800
Speaker 1: There's one. This is one. It has a big bottom

858
00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:42,360
Speaker 1: and those are Pats tennis shoes. She is under my

859
00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:46,440
Speaker 1: dress completely covered. She's trying to pull down the lining.

860
00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:50,680
Speaker 2: What a fabulous picture you're kidding me. I want to

861
00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:52,040
Speaker 2: see that on Instagram.

862
00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:54,520
Speaker 1: I will put it on Instagram for everyone to see it.

863
00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:55,960
Speaker 2: It's just really cute.

864
00:45:56,560 --> 00:45:58,799
Speaker 1: Just your sneakers are showing and you would never know

865
00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:00,120
Speaker 1: that there's a human being under there.

866
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:04,720
Speaker 2: She's totally okay. Then I want to ask you something

867
00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:08,600
Speaker 2: because your memory is so good because it was your wedding. Yeah,

868
00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:14,240
Speaker 2: what about the Scottish plaid treatment on Carrie's brides because

869
00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:14,719
Speaker 2: she was.

870
00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:17,839
Speaker 1: The brides maid? Made of honor?

871
00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:18,600
Speaker 2: Right right?

872
00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:21,360
Speaker 1: I love it. I didn't remember it at all, but

873
00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:23,920
Speaker 1: I love it so much because you absolutely know that

874
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:26,120
Speaker 1: was Sara Jusca. And this is the use of you

875
00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:29,239
Speaker 1: with your trims. I'm sure that you were like, yes,

876
00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:31,120
Speaker 1: I will get those those.

877
00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:36,160
Speaker 2: Little Scottish plaid section and find something appropriate.

878
00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:37,960
Speaker 1: And I think there's a broach on top of it,

879
00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:41,879
Speaker 1: which is also very much coming.

880
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:46,400
Speaker 2: Like reminiscent of a flower. Yep so but on the

881
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:47,880
Speaker 2: bell very smart. Ye.

882
00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:50,359
Speaker 1: I love it. I love it so much. And there

883
00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:53,919
Speaker 1: is the guy you know, obviously, Trey's wearing his kilt,

884
00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:57,880
Speaker 1: which is adorable, and then there's his cousin or whoever

885
00:46:57,880 --> 00:46:59,879
Speaker 1: he is. Who's Scottish the way we can't understand anything,

886
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:04,840
Speaker 1: says who's also wearing a killed I believe right, yes, yes,

887
00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:07,239
Speaker 1: and talks about how there is something under there but

888
00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:09,080
Speaker 1: it's easy to get off or something. I don't know.

889
00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:12,680
Speaker 1: It's very trippy and funny, very trippy and funny.

890
00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:15,560
Speaker 2: Now, how many times were you married, lady?

891
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:16,560
Speaker 1: Just twice?

892
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:18,720
Speaker 2: What do you mean.

893
00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:21,040
Speaker 1: You think there's more?

894
00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:27,120
Speaker 2: First with Trey, yes, Scottish? Yeah, what was the second one?

895
00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:32,520
Speaker 2: It's Harry, It's Harry. There's nobody in between. Now, okay,

896
00:47:33,640 --> 00:47:36,760
Speaker 2: you only got married twice. I'm very disappointed in you.

897
00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:39,160
Speaker 1: You are you know why we put on like forty

898
00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:41,600
Speaker 1: wedding dresses. So I think that's why you think I

899
00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:44,840
Speaker 1: got married more. No, no, you know, Charlotte finds Harry

900
00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:48,319
Speaker 1: and you know then then it's it came over with

901
00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:52,080
Speaker 1: the world exactly exactly. And remember he was my divorce

902
00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:55,239
Speaker 1: lawyer from Trey. That's how I mean him, which is

903
00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:57,640
Speaker 1: so perfect. Okay, now I have this picture where my

904
00:47:57,719 --> 00:48:01,319
Speaker 1: producers really want to understand this necklace. Sarah has like

905
00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:03,799
Speaker 1: just a tube top on very Sarah Jessica, and then

906
00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:06,440
Speaker 1: she has this big chunky. It's like a heart or

907
00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:09,200
Speaker 1: a strawberry. I can't even what is that.

908
00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:13,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, you know we got freed, you know, it

909
00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:15,680
Speaker 2: was still about where can we get stuff? We don't

910
00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:21,280
Speaker 2: have any money? And Kenny J. Lane children was very generous.

911
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:22,640
Speaker 1: Oh there's so nice.

912
00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:28,600
Speaker 2: Pat loved trinkets like that. She loved the horseshoes, she

913
00:48:28,719 --> 00:48:34,239
Speaker 2: loved an apple, she loved a heart. She loved like that.

914
00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:39,960
Speaker 2: To me is so eye catching in a a in

915
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:43,439
Speaker 2: a childish kind of way, like that's a chunky thing.

916
00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:46,280
Speaker 1: But it's fun. I mean, I think it's really fun,

917
00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:49,640
Speaker 1: you know. And I also think on television they usually

918
00:48:49,719 --> 00:49:01,040
Speaker 1: try to get you to have very tiny, unnoticeable right, yeah, exactly, yeah,

919
00:49:01,040 --> 00:49:03,239
Speaker 1: And I think that's why it was so different, right,

920
00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:05,200
Speaker 1: And I mean we're different in many ways, as we know,

921
00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:06,920
Speaker 1: but I think that was one of the big differences.

922
00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:09,239
Speaker 1: And I think for me sometimes it took a little

923
00:49:09,239 --> 00:49:11,799
Speaker 1: getting used to because I was like that thing's so

924
00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:15,200
Speaker 1: big or whatever, you know. But but I mean that's

925
00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:17,360
Speaker 1: the you know, the joy of it.

926
00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:21,160
Speaker 2: Very Yeah, I'm very cautious about stuff like that. I

927
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:24,399
Speaker 2: get timid to you know, I don't want if it's

928
00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:27,480
Speaker 2: a beautiful long earring and it's gonna swing through the

929
00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:29,560
Speaker 2: whole bar scene. I'm like, oh, yeah.

930
00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:32,279
Speaker 1: It's true. But I feel like something came over us

931
00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:35,239
Speaker 1: in season three. And I mean not so much me

932
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:37,680
Speaker 1: because I am still playing Charlotte, but I think we

933
00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:39,880
Speaker 1: were just like, yeah, I think the newness of it

934
00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:42,600
Speaker 1: all and people sending us things, we were just like, yes,

935
00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:46,600
Speaker 1: we're excited, and it reminds me of this beautiful gold butterfly.

936
00:49:47,560 --> 00:49:49,920
Speaker 2: That's exactly what I was going to bring up. Also,

937
00:49:50,080 --> 00:49:50,480
Speaker 2: Kenny J.

938
00:49:50,719 --> 00:49:51,719
Speaker 1: Lane, amazing.

939
00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:55,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's so. It just made that dress.

940
00:49:55,120 --> 00:49:57,600
Speaker 1: Didn't it. And she wears this on the cover of

941
00:49:57,640 --> 00:49:59,680
Speaker 1: Time magazine and our photo shoot, doesn't she.

942
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:01,600
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, I believe you're right.

943
00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:03,279
Speaker 1: I think she does this hanging in my closet. I

944
00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:06,239
Speaker 1: should have checked before I came wow, because I love that.

945
00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:08,520
Speaker 1: It's my only picture I have hanging on us. Because

946
00:50:08,680 --> 00:50:11,160
Speaker 1: I think it's so funny that it says, who needs

947
00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:11,760
Speaker 1: a husband?

948
00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:16,640
Speaker 2: Interesting? I wonder if I have that magazine. I have

949
00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:20,600
Speaker 2: so so many You do I have boxes?

950
00:50:21,880 --> 00:50:22,600
Speaker 1: Where are they.

951
00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:26,200
Speaker 2: In the attic of the condo? Oh?

952
00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:28,960
Speaker 1: We should look that would be so much fun.

953
00:50:29,520 --> 00:50:34,919
Speaker 2: So many next episode said yeah, you're welcome to Paul through.

954
00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:38,560
Speaker 2: Oh that would be fun craziest, big huge articles on

955
00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:39,960
Speaker 2: all of you guys.

956
00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:43,720
Speaker 1: And about this right and what body shape do you have?

957
00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:45,840
Speaker 2: Are you heuraging?

958
00:50:46,080 --> 00:50:51,759
Speaker 1: Chilette still makes me so mad? Okay, so mad? Are

959
00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:56,200
Speaker 1: you thin? Like Sir Jessica, I was like, you guys,

960
00:50:56,640 --> 00:51:00,319
Speaker 1: come on, I have a scene recently though a lot

961
00:51:00,600 --> 00:51:04,719
Speaker 1: of stuff on Instagram about how rough the two thousands

962
00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:08,320
Speaker 1: were for women, you know, in terms of body expectations

963
00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:10,840
Speaker 1: and shaming, like it was so intense.

964
00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:15,280
Speaker 2: It was intense. It was intense. Any kind of bathing

965
00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:20,759
Speaker 2: suit scene would would unravel anybody, anybody, Okay, Oh and

966
00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:21,439
Speaker 2: when do you hear?

967
00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:22,600
Speaker 1: I agree?

968
00:51:22,719 --> 00:51:22,919
Speaker 2: Oh?

969
00:51:22,920 --> 00:51:25,160
Speaker 1: I know. I mean the funny thing, Sir Jessica has

970
00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:27,320
Speaker 1: her wonderful style, but like when she wears those board

971
00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:30,120
Speaker 1: shorts in the second season, Oh, I love it so

972
00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:33,800
Speaker 1: much because it's so her. Right, But if Sarah Jessica

973
00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:39,560
Speaker 1: Parker can feel self conscious, yes, anyone anyone can hope

974
00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:42,160
Speaker 1: for There is no hope. There's no hope for any

975
00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:44,360
Speaker 1: of us. But we were in such a pressure cooker,

976
00:51:44,520 --> 00:51:47,880
Speaker 1: you know, it was really intense, and I remember, I

977
00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:49,359
Speaker 1: don't know if I've told this story on the pott.

978
00:51:49,360 --> 00:51:51,560
Speaker 1: I don't think I have. When we were doing the

979
00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:54,759
Speaker 1: first season, when people were really confused about what the

980
00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:56,880
Speaker 1: show was, right, like, they didn't know where we like

981
00:51:56,960 --> 00:51:59,080
Speaker 1: real sex on HBO, you know, in the middle of

982
00:51:59,080 --> 00:52:02,359
Speaker 1: the night, know what the heck? They were, right, But

983
00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:05,560
Speaker 1: people the paparazzi, at least the fashion people in the

984
00:52:05,560 --> 00:52:08,880
Speaker 1: paparazzi knew Kandas Bush now, so they knew of the article,

985
00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:12,480
Speaker 1: the column, you know, the book. And I was at

986
00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:15,360
Speaker 1: this event one time. I was just wearing my regular clothes.

987
00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:17,040
Speaker 1: I think I was with my publicist and we had

988
00:52:17,080 --> 00:52:19,160
Speaker 1: to go buy and check on another client who was

989
00:52:19,200 --> 00:52:21,799
Speaker 1: at an event. So we kind of swung by after

990
00:52:21,880 --> 00:52:25,719
Speaker 1: going somewhere and I'm just in the back trying not

991
00:52:26,080 --> 00:52:28,520
Speaker 1: you know, I'm not really there, right, and the populazzi

992
00:52:28,560 --> 00:52:31,600
Speaker 1: you're there and they're chatting with me and they're saying,

993
00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:32,839
Speaker 1: what are you doing? And I was like, oh, we're

994
00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:35,040
Speaker 1: working on this new show, Sex and City for HBO.

995
00:52:35,719 --> 00:52:38,400
Speaker 1: And they say, oh, Sex and City like Candace and

996
00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:41,560
Speaker 1: I say, oh, yeah, yeah, it's based on Kandas's column.

997
00:52:41,600 --> 00:52:46,560
Speaker 1: And this woman paparazzi says to me, well, you don't

998
00:52:46,560 --> 00:52:51,080
Speaker 1: play Candace because you're not thin enough. I mean she

999
00:52:51,160 --> 00:52:53,600
Speaker 1: might have actually said you're too heavy. I can't remember

1000
00:52:53,640 --> 00:52:58,680
Speaker 1: what she said. It was so mean, and I was like, no,

1001
00:52:59,239 --> 00:53:01,160
Speaker 1: I'm not playing care and I'm like trying to be polite,

1002
00:53:01,160 --> 00:53:03,640
Speaker 1: and I'm like, where's my publicist? I'm going to die?

1003
00:53:04,080 --> 00:53:09,000
Speaker 1: And then I would see her on Red Class so

1004
00:53:09,239 --> 00:53:12,160
Speaker 1: upset and I was like, why are you like this?

1005
00:53:12,320 --> 00:53:14,440
Speaker 2: You're a woman, are you a woman hater?

1006
00:53:14,840 --> 00:53:18,960
Speaker 1: Right? And you're a paparazzi and you're a woman paparazzi.

1007
00:53:19,120 --> 00:53:21,400
Speaker 2: Like come on together.

1008
00:53:21,560 --> 00:53:24,200
Speaker 1: But they'd just be so like openly to your face.

1009
00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:26,600
Speaker 1: Do you know what I mean? You're like, well, you're

1010
00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:30,400
Speaker 1: too heavy, you're not thin enough, you can't possibly play her.

1011
00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:33,200
Speaker 1: And I was just like, oh lord, and my other thing.

1012
00:53:33,239 --> 00:53:34,400
Speaker 1: I don't know if I've told this story on the

1013
00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:36,560
Speaker 1: podcast either, but it reminds me of it. So this

1014
00:53:36,680 --> 00:53:39,920
Speaker 1: is when like weeklies were coming out, like us weekly people,

1015
00:53:41,680 --> 00:53:43,719
Speaker 1: what there's more that have gone away, like Life and

1016
00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:46,560
Speaker 1: Style or whatever. There are so many Yeah, and every

1017
00:53:46,560 --> 00:53:49,080
Speaker 1: week my mother would be like oh blah blah blah,

1018
00:53:49,160 --> 00:53:51,000
Speaker 1: saying blah blah blah, and I would just be like, mom,

1019
00:53:51,040 --> 00:53:52,319
Speaker 1: I don't want to know. I don't want to know,

1020
00:53:52,600 --> 00:53:56,400
Speaker 1: because obviously they were just all about, you know, critiquing

1021
00:53:56,440 --> 00:54:01,000
Speaker 1: everything and or stirring up comparisons. Yes, So one time

1022
00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:03,840
Speaker 1: I'd had something happen that I wasn't happy about, and

1023
00:54:03,880 --> 00:54:05,880
Speaker 1: so I was walking home, as we all do in

1024
00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:08,040
Speaker 1: New York when you got to walk something off, right,

1025
00:54:08,239 --> 00:54:10,600
Speaker 1: So I'm walking something off and I stop at a

1026
00:54:10,600 --> 00:54:13,759
Speaker 1: at a bodega to get some Eminem's. And I go

1027
00:54:13,880 --> 00:54:16,480
Speaker 1: up to the counter to get the Eminem's and this

1028
00:54:16,560 --> 00:54:20,440
Speaker 1: girl behind the counter says, oh, I can't sell you these,

1029
00:54:21,160 --> 00:54:23,319
Speaker 1: And I'm like, what do you mean? She goes, yeah,

1030
00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:24,399
Speaker 1: you shouldn't be eating these.

1031
00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:30,520
Speaker 2: Stop. I gonna get away with any Please give me

1032
00:54:31,120 --> 00:54:36,000
Speaker 2: have this woman. I mean, I cannot believe that story.

1033
00:54:36,320 --> 00:54:40,319
Speaker 1: I know this is what it was like. Wow, like

1034
00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:44,640
Speaker 1: people were invested in your thigh circumference. You know what

1035
00:54:44,680 --> 00:54:45,200
Speaker 1: I'm saying.

1036
00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:47,400
Speaker 2: That is mind blowing.

1037
00:54:47,640 --> 00:54:50,759
Speaker 1: It was scary, and I remember just like crying the

1038
00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:55,759
Speaker 1: rest of my walk, like wow, why didn't I just say, like,

1039
00:54:55,840 --> 00:54:58,360
Speaker 1: guys me, I'm trying to buy something in your store,

1040
00:54:58,480 --> 00:55:00,000
Speaker 1: And why didn't I just go to the next boat.

1041
00:55:00,440 --> 00:55:02,840
Speaker 1: I don't know, but it's like it hurts so much.

1042
00:55:02,719 --> 00:55:04,440
Speaker 2: It threw you for a loop.

1043
00:55:04,280 --> 00:55:06,400
Speaker 1: Threw me for a loop, which is how I felt

1044
00:55:06,440 --> 00:55:09,600
Speaker 1: a lot of the time back then. I have to say, honestly,

1045
00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:12,839
Speaker 1: if I'm just being honest, all right, we are gonna

1046
00:55:13,080 --> 00:55:16,000
Speaker 1: cut this into two episodes because Molly has a lot

1047
00:55:16,080 --> 00:55:18,680
Speaker 1: to say and we love to hear it. So please

1048
00:55:18,760 --> 00:55:20,680
Speaker 1: join us later in the week on Are You a

1049
00:55:20,760 --> 00:55:24,239
Speaker 1: Charlotte to continue talking about season three with the incredible

1050
00:55:24,280 --> 00:55:25,080
Speaker 1: Molly Rogers.