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Speaker 1: pretty sure it's dead. It's coming this way. Wait a minute, house,

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Speaker 1: I go said by Ross Dress, Hey boo, it's me

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Speaker 2: Feles.

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Speaker 1: Did you have a good Thanksgiving? I know, I did,

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Speaker 1: why not go to the Whaley House. So I went

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Speaker 1: I was just reading a ghost story that really chilled me.

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Speaker 1: This one is in the Facebook group. It came from Lauren.

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Speaker 1: Maro's talking. Things had started picking up for everyone, but

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Speaker 1: She had picture frames all over her room on shelves.

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Speaker 1: We put them back and tried to shake the desk

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Speaker 1: so there is like so much more of this story.

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Speaker 1: I'm like not even halfway through. But she also includes

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Speaker 1: some pick pictures. So look at this story. It's in

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Speaker 1: the Facebook group ghosted by Roz Dresvilles goes It's a

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Speaker 1: doozy that was posted by Lauren on November twentieth. Go

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Speaker 1: check it out and if you have a ghost story,

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Speaker 1: it's a great place to give it to me. All right,

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Speaker 1: on with the show, ladies and gentlemen, I am joined

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Speaker 1: by John Arthur Hill.

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Speaker 2: Hi, Hi, thank you so much for having me. I'm

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Speaker 2: such a fan of your podcast.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, I don't I don't get to see

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Speaker 2: I know. I'm so glad we have this opportunity. I'm

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Speaker 2: so glad that you literally paid me to come here.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god. It was not cheap. It was the

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Speaker 1: highest tier of your Patreon.

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Speaker 2: That's exactly right.

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Speaker 1: Well, yeah, you you host the Fields on Radio Andy

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Speaker 1: on Serious Excent, which I've been on.

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Speaker 2: You have been on, You've talked about this. I wanted

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Speaker 1: I forgot to invoice you for that. Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 2: Well why don't we call it a draw? Okay, because

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Speaker 2: you didn't. I was kidding you didn't pay me to

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Speaker 2: that's okay. I'm also Andy Cohen's co host on Mondays

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Speaker 3: Seven to nine on Channel Window two. I serious, I'll.

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Speaker 1: Just plug it all, plug it all. Well, my favorite thing,

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Speaker 1: I think, my favorite fact about you. Anytime your name

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Speaker 2: Oh God, which would be something really bad.

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Speaker 1: No, it's something great. You were in the original Broadway

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Speaker 1: cast of Hairspray.

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Speaker 2: Everyone, Yes, I was.

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Speaker 1: That's the coolest thing.

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Speaker 2: It's becoming like the thing.

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Speaker 1: Are you okay?

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Speaker 2: I'm just looking at these weird plants. They're like beetle

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Speaker 2: juice plants. Oh, I know, isn't it fun?

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Speaker 2: It is very like spooky in here. It's like a

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Speaker 2: spooky library. I won't people can't see that, so I'll

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Speaker 2: just describe it. It's plants that are painted like beetle juice. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Any I've held up well very well.

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Speaker 3: I mean, look at this body, look at it.

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Speaker 2: I will work. I can't stop looking at it.

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Speaker 3: I know, please, never do I want you to touch it.

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Speaker 2: And one of the things, one of the one of

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Speaker 2: and just kind of mull over, has to do with

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Speaker 2: something that happened at Hairsbury. But you lead the way.

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Speaker 2: You're the host, not me. It's hard to get out

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Speaker 2: So you you drive.

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Speaker 1: The bus, okay, sure?

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 1: Now I should do like that thing that they do

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Speaker 2: He was called the Sleeping Prophet. He would go under

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Speaker 1: Premonition things like have you ever astro projected? That's my

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Speaker 2: I do. I like to astral projector.

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Speaker 1: But I've been hearing a lot of it's weird. Like

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Speaker 2: It's almost like you physically feel strange. I mean, and

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Speaker 2: I'm no expert, but but when you experiment with it

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Speaker 1: We could try. Okay, great, So what happened on Broadway?

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Speaker 2: Okay, so let's see opening week of previews in so

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Speaker 2: of Hairspray of hair Spray on Broadway. We did our

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Speaker 2: We came to Broadway ready to go, and you know

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Speaker 2: So let's see. I guess it was mister Pinky's Hefty

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Speaker 3: And the stage manager her name was Marisha, not Marissa,

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Speaker 1: Mersa Wenoker, celebrity ghost story.

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Speaker 2: Yes, and she should be on your show. Please, Oh

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Speaker 2: my god, tell her. Let's call her now please. I

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Speaker 2: mister Pinky's Hefty Hideaway just suddenly came on. And that

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Speaker 2: Bobbie theaters are all haunted.

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Speaker 1: Imagine wanted which one specifically is this?

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Speaker 2: This is the Neil Simon Theater. Oh wow, okay, I

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Speaker 2: mean it's super old. There's just a lot of lore

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Speaker 3: So, but literally every Broadway house is haunted anyway.

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Speaker 2: So the set piece came undone swoop down to the

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Speaker 2: And Maricia came up and she was like, I just

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Speaker 2: And I was like, Marisia, you're on fucking crack, but

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Speaker 1: So wait, so mister Mauritia came to her and said

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Speaker 2: He said, like, you need to be careful. The minute

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Speaker 2: would have been no nice show, the nicest kids in town.

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Speaker 2: It would be like headless kids in town show. And

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Speaker 1: Wouldn't have even started. No, Okay, that's just a.

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Speaker 1: That's a little warmer up, and that stuff happened all

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Speaker 2: And brobabaly theaters happened all the time. That's why they

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Speaker 1: What's that meaning?

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Speaker 2: So the ghost light is the thing they put up

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Speaker 2: and it is for functional purposes to keep people so

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Speaker 2: That's a ghostly do you see that. We're showing a

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Speaker 2: But the the functional part is so you can see

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Speaker 2: But it's also to keep the ghosts away, to keep

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Speaker 1: That's one thing that I love so much about theater

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Speaker 2: So much. I mean, you can't say the Scottish play.

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Speaker 2: You certainly cannot, and you have to turn around three

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Speaker 1: Oh God, I love the theater.

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Speaker 2: Got the theater, Oh, the theater.

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Speaker 1: You know what's speaking of New York sort of, I

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Speaker 2: When I first met you, you.

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Speaker 1: Were talking about your friend Randy, who lives in New York,

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, No, she's got some ghost stories.

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Speaker 1: Oh I can only imagine.

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Speaker 2: Oh I'm sure she's talked to ghost I'm sure she's

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Speaker 1: But what is so weird is like Randy's not like

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Speaker 1: to know absolutely, And it was so funny that you

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Speaker 2: Me when people know Randy because it's a specific person

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Speaker 2: I'm sure that she has so many ghost stories. She's

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Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely, And I think that people are attracted to

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Speaker 1: other people that are like that for sure. Yeah, tell me,

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Speaker 2: So you know. New York is one thing. I was

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Speaker 1: And she was a big like aids, yes, activist.

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Speaker 2: Yes, she knew a lot of gay guys, totally good

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Speaker 1: If you're listening to you don't know who that is.

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Speaker 1: Poultergeist films.

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Speaker 2: This house is clean.

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Speaker 1: She's so good in that movie.

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Speaker 2: Well when they say that movie was cursed, that is

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Speaker 2: Cricky, it'd be cricket. Yeah. So we decided to go

436
00:21:56,800 --> 00:22:02,080
Speaker 2: to what's called red Ginger Ginger in Silver Lake. I

437
00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:06,080
Speaker 2: think it's still that ginger grass Ginger Grass or yeah, yeah,

438
00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:06,480
Speaker 2: it's right.

439
00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:10,840
Speaker 1: I've taken many first and only dates there because it's casual.

440
00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:13,800
Speaker 3: Here's the tea on Zeldrubinstein.

441
00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:15,639
Speaker 1: So you took Zelda to Ginger Grass.

442
00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:18,719
Speaker 2: It was her choice. She lived in Silver Lake, you're kidding,

443
00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:20,679
Speaker 2: and she said, let's go to Ginger Grass.

444
00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:22,960
Speaker 1: Okay, this story can't get any better.

445
00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:25,520
Speaker 3: And I was like, okay, I'll go literally anywhere.

446
00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:27,679
Speaker 2: Now. I was not healthy at the time. I was

447
00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:30,880
Speaker 2: like not living a healthy lifestyle. I was like kind

448
00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:36,600
Speaker 2: of erratic and like drinking. And I was probably twenty

449
00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:42,000
Speaker 2: eight or nine, but I was like I could like

450
00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:44,000
Speaker 2: hide that sort of I mean, who I'm a kidding,

451
00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:47,800
Speaker 2: not really, but like, so we went and she kind

452
00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:52,680
Speaker 2: of leaned into the lore of her actually being that

453
00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:56,800
Speaker 2: psychic person. She at least from where I was sitting.

454
00:22:56,800 --> 00:22:59,440
Speaker 2: And again I was probably drunk, but like what I

455
00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:01,920
Speaker 2: got from her that she really had this confidence she did.

456
00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:05,320
Speaker 2: She was very confident in her like like she wasn't

457
00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:07,920
Speaker 2: she wasn't playing like a sweet old lady. She was like, hey,

458
00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:10,920
Speaker 2: what's up, Like let's get real and like not mint

459
00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:13,359
Speaker 2: any words. And I was like, okay, I wasn't expecting that.

460
00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:16,280
Speaker 2: I was expecting like a sweet lady to be kind

461
00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:16,640
Speaker 2: of like.

462
00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:20,520
Speaker 3: I don't know, but she was like, what's up?

463
00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:25,400
Speaker 1: And like a name in that movie Angina. Oh, you're right,

464
00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:31,479
Speaker 1: hilarious something Jina on Gina. It's definitely something China.

465
00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:36,360
Speaker 2: Gina though as a Gina, Yeah, Tangina. I don't think

466
00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:38,960
Speaker 2: they would be like and now Angina, I know Gina,

467
00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:44,200
Speaker 2: you know Tangina or Justinjina. I think brown, white, pale Gina,

468
00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:50,040
Speaker 2: pasty China. Yeah, that's me, that's not her. So we

469
00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:52,200
Speaker 2: sat down and she was like, yeah, I've always lived

470
00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:53,960
Speaker 2: in Silver Lake. It's always been the best. It's always

471
00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:56,360
Speaker 2: and I always remember her saying this is where she's like, yeah,

472
00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:58,480
Speaker 2: silver Lake's just like you know, elbows on the table,

473
00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:00,960
Speaker 2: just like no big deal, not really Hollywood. And I

474
00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:04,600
Speaker 2: was like, wow, this bitch is like real anyway, this

475
00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:07,399
Speaker 2: is like a month before she died, and I was like, okay,

476
00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:10,080
Speaker 2: this is Zilda Rubinstein and she looked at me and

477
00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:14,560
Speaker 2: she was like, you are jaundiced and your livers fucked up.

478
00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:17,600
Speaker 3: And I was like you're not wrong.

479
00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:22,679
Speaker 2: And like that was and then she she loved my

480
00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:25,479
Speaker 2: boyfriend at that time so much, and we had an

481
00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:27,520
Speaker 2: okay dinner and then we left. We helped her home

482
00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:30,119
Speaker 2: because she couldn't really walk home. She couldn't like we

483
00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:31,760
Speaker 2: had to like help her home, which was fine. It

484
00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:34,520
Speaker 2: was sweet. And then I was like, you know those

485
00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:36,600
Speaker 2: moments where you see people and they like see in

486
00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:39,520
Speaker 2: your soul and they're like they don't have to say

487
00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:44,000
Speaker 2: a lot of words, but they're like hey, ps blah

488
00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:47,240
Speaker 2: blah blah, and you're like, wow, okay, truth moment. And

489
00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:51,720
Speaker 2: I was like okay, like I'm cool with like on

490
00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:56,400
Speaker 2: Ngina giving me this like truthful moment and like I've

491
00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:58,320
Speaker 2: always kind of helped that anyway. So I just wanted

492
00:24:58,320 --> 00:24:59,840
Speaker 2: to follow up and let you know that I met her.

493
00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:03,000
Speaker 2: That's and she told me, I was John, Look it's

494
00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:06,639
Speaker 2: a Zelda Rubinstein jaundiced. That's one of your stories.

495
00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:09,840
Speaker 3: That's my story. Are you ready for my next one?

496
00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:10,879
Speaker 1: Very yeah?

497
00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:12,920
Speaker 2: Or do you want to expound? No? These are great.

498
00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:16,560
Speaker 1: You brought some Hollywood and Broadway, you brought some showbiz.

499
00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:25,520
Speaker 2: Okay, let's see. I mean I have so many Okay,

500
00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:27,639
Speaker 2: So the next this is this is the one that

501
00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:29,080
Speaker 2: really freaks me out the most.

502
00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:33,639
Speaker 3: So I did a show in South Carolina.

503
00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:38,840
Speaker 2: It was for TLC. It was called King of the Crown.

504
00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:42,280
Speaker 2: It only lasted one season, and it was about a

505
00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:45,119
Speaker 2: pageant coach. Now, the fun thing that you might like

506
00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:48,439
Speaker 2: is that he was the pageant coach who coached the

507
00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:54,560
Speaker 2: girl on Miss Teen USA, who said and such as

508
00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:56,879
Speaker 2: and such as such and such as, and she was

509
00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:59,400
Speaker 2: in my pilot. She was in this pilot. And that's

510
00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:01,880
Speaker 2: why the pilot got sold because she had just done

511
00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:05,199
Speaker 2: it like two mouths in America and the maps and

512
00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:08,479
Speaker 2: the Iraq and such as and tanked and they were like,

513
00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:11,080
Speaker 2: we want this girl on a pilot. And so it

514
00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:15,520
Speaker 2: was about her pageant coach and this you know, pageant world,

515
00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:17,879
Speaker 2: and he it was in Columbia, South Carolina. Now they

516
00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:22,880
Speaker 2: flew me out to be a director, story producer, kind

517
00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:25,240
Speaker 2: of person on the ground and kind of helped shape

518
00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:27,640
Speaker 2: the show, write the show, but not write the show.

519
00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:31,600
Speaker 2: And they put us up in kind of corporate housing.

520
00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:34,399
Speaker 2: And there's nothing I love more than corporate housing. I

521
00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:36,720
Speaker 2: love to go. I love to get free towels and

522
00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:38,960
Speaker 2: like a free kitchen and just trash it, you know

523
00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:40,320
Speaker 2: what I mean, Like I love to go. I don't

524
00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:43,560
Speaker 2: do that as much now I'm kind of like who cares?

525
00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:46,560
Speaker 2: But like back then, I was probably like thirty one,

526
00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:48,840
Speaker 2: and I was kind of like this is great. But

527
00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:50,840
Speaker 2: I from the minute I got there and I didn't.

528
00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:53,600
Speaker 2: I usually am like, oh, this place is like bad energy,

529
00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:57,520
Speaker 2: but I didn't get it at that time. But something

530
00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:00,480
Speaker 2: was really wrong. Something was really really, really really wrong.

531
00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:01,840
Speaker 2: It was kind of a new place. It was by

532
00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:05,280
Speaker 2: they were trying to like gentrify this area of South Carolina, Columbia,

533
00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:11,000
Speaker 2: South Carolina, which was which has a lot of tension anyway,

534
00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:14,959
Speaker 2: and people would jog next to this river and I

535
00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:18,640
Speaker 2: didn't put this together but like things were just happening.

536
00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:23,000
Speaker 2: I had like two teeth fell out, not because of drugs,

537
00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:25,679
Speaker 2: that was a later time, but like that, but like

538
00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:30,160
Speaker 2: things just happened, like I broke a toe from just

539
00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:32,800
Speaker 2: like running on a treadmill. And speaking of the treadmill,

540
00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:34,720
Speaker 2: they had a little gym, and I was like going

541
00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:38,480
Speaker 2: all the time, and I and and and the first

542
00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:41,440
Speaker 2: thing that tipped me off is I loved going to

543
00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:45,080
Speaker 2: their little gym by myself and I and the and

544
00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:47,400
Speaker 2: the like fifth night I went there, and I'd seen

545
00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:50,480
Speaker 2: this guy a couple of times. I was like, I

546
00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:52,160
Speaker 2: like to be in here by myself. I don't want

547
00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:54,639
Speaker 2: anyone else in here. It's like, you know, eleven at night,

548
00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:57,200
Speaker 2: and like who else in this like abandoned like new,

549
00:27:57,320 --> 00:28:00,960
Speaker 2: brand new building is like working out, And so I

550
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:03,000
Speaker 2: was like rolling my eyes. And then like I went

551
00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:04,600
Speaker 2: to go stretch, and I went to see if he

552
00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:08,119
Speaker 2: was still there, and he wasn't there. And so what

553
00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:10,360
Speaker 2: I had seen was a reflection. When I look back,

554
00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:12,240
Speaker 2: it was just a reflection. There was no one there.

555
00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:15,120
Speaker 1: So you saw in the mirror a person you look

556
00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:16,600
Speaker 1: over and the person's not there.

557
00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:19,120
Speaker 2: Once I once I moved, I was like, oh, there's

558
00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:23,040
Speaker 2: no one on that weightlifting bench. I must have he

559
00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:25,159
Speaker 2: must have slipped out another door. But there was no

560
00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:26,600
Speaker 2: other door for him to slip, but he would have

561
00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:28,960
Speaker 2: had to walk past me. I didn't think anything of

562
00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:31,800
Speaker 2: it at the time, so just remember that. Okay. So

563
00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:36,439
Speaker 2: that happened twice, and he was someone you would have,

564
00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:41,400
Speaker 2: like a someone you don't want to piss off, a

565
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:48,960
Speaker 2: very muscular, strong, lots of scars, like deep, deep, deep scars.

566
00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:54,040
Speaker 2: So I was kind of like, Okay, you know, maybe

567
00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:58,440
Speaker 2: maybe he'll be my boyfriend, or maybe I don't. I

568
00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:00,400
Speaker 2: don't want to make him mad, so like it's just

569
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:02,560
Speaker 2: someone anyway. So there was kind of like this, like

570
00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:06,000
Speaker 2: you know, strong guy. It happened twice and I was like,

571
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:08,040
Speaker 2: where is this other door that this guy is leaving from?

572
00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:09,880
Speaker 2: But I didn't look at him in the flesh, but

573
00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:12,280
Speaker 2: I kept seeing in the reflection like you do in gems.

574
00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:15,240
Speaker 2: So that happened a couple of times. I had to

575
00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:20,240
Speaker 2: go to the hospital twice, and I was emotionally, oh,

576
00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:22,680
Speaker 2: this is the thing. I couldn't sleep, and I sleep

577
00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:25,600
Speaker 2: like a baby. I don't take sleeping pills, I don't

578
00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:28,920
Speaker 2: take melotonin. I hit the pillow asleep, never have problems.

579
00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:29,880
Speaker 1: I'm jealous of that.

580
00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:33,960
Speaker 2: When you get older, you'll join me. It's fine, it's beautiful,

581
00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:36,480
Speaker 2: it's wonderful. Just you can't wait to go to sleep.

582
00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:39,960
Speaker 2: But I had the worst nightmares. I woke up, I

583
00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:42,560
Speaker 2: couldn't sleep. The job was going terribly. It was such

584
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:45,600
Speaker 2: an easy job. It was fun, it was pageant girls, easy.

585
00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:50,000
Speaker 2: But conflict conflict conflict. I called my boyfriend at the time,

586
00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:51,840
Speaker 2: like you have to come here. I was like, you

587
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:56,239
Speaker 2: have to come He came out and he was like,

588
00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:58,520
Speaker 2: this is not good. Like how long were you here?

589
00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:01,120
Speaker 2: I was there? I was there three so I was

590
00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:04,880
Speaker 2: therefore like three weeks at a time four times. Wow,

591
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:07,960
Speaker 2: everything fell apart, and like my jobs don't fall apart.

592
00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:12,440
Speaker 2: I mean they were good, but this was terrible. I

593
00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:15,160
Speaker 2: would go to publics and just like buy yellowtail and

594
00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:18,480
Speaker 2: just like drink it all. Like I just was miserable.

595
00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:20,440
Speaker 2: I don't know why. I was just in the worst

596
00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:24,880
Speaker 2: mood and there was no reason I kept losing I

597
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:27,480
Speaker 2: never lose keys, knock on wood, but like I kept

598
00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:30,760
Speaker 2: losing things. I get like everything went bad, But mostly

599
00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:37,840
Speaker 2: the sleep, the nightmares, the nightmares, the nightmares. So I

600
00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:39,720
Speaker 2: didn't realize this until we had kind of a hired

601
00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:42,360
Speaker 2: guy who was driving us different places, and he was like, well,

602
00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:46,680
Speaker 2: you know that your complex is built on one of

603
00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:52,880
Speaker 2: the most famously abusive prisons known to man in America

604
00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:56,040
Speaker 2: that was demolished, and this has been built. Your complex

605
00:30:56,080 --> 00:31:01,480
Speaker 2: has been built on this high secure and it's where

606
00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:05,120
Speaker 2: people the most people were put to were sentenced to

607
00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:09,000
Speaker 2: death and killed. It's called literally, I'm showing you this

608
00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:11,480
Speaker 2: on the internet, the prison from Hell. Columbia's Vista was

609
00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:13,680
Speaker 2: once home. So Vista was the name of this cool

610
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:16,680
Speaker 2: new like chich gentrified place. Can I read you a

611
00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:19,280
Speaker 2: couple of things? And I found this out after my

612
00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:23,400
Speaker 2: last day there, and I was like, of course, it's

613
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:29,720
Speaker 2: like I saw some of these people, but nobody else

614
00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:32,280
Speaker 2: was living there. There were other people, but we were

615
00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:36,040
Speaker 2: all tormented. None of us connected. We didn't make friends.

616
00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:38,560
Speaker 2: Not people that you worked with, yes, people that were.

617
00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:40,680
Speaker 3: With and everyone had the same exact experience.

618
00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:44,120
Speaker 2: And who told you this at a local guy who

619
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:50,680
Speaker 2: was our driver, like a PA a prison reform before

620
00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:52,960
Speaker 2: the Civil War, it was hailed as a really a

621
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:57,240
Speaker 2: medieval dungeon. They closed in nineteen ninety four. It was

622
00:31:57,280 --> 00:31:59,760
Speaker 2: scorn hoplessly integraated, a relic in the world of high

623
00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:03,040
Speaker 2: tech prison blah blah blah, the closest thing to Hell

624
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:06,360
Speaker 2: on Earth. One inmate at the time side at the wallskutok.

625
00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:10,720
Speaker 2: They would scream. Its demise was national news, with the

626
00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:14,240
Speaker 2: New York Times calling it the prison from Hell. I mean,

627
00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:17,360
Speaker 2: the stories of this place are shocking. It was dark,

628
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:19,640
Speaker 2: it was dank, and it stunk, and there were vermin

629
00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:21,840
Speaker 2: of all kinds. It was the thing of horror movies.

630
00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:25,840
Speaker 2: It was struck. The structure was built in eighteen sixty seven.

631
00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:31,840
Speaker 2: Convicts built the prison with granite blocks taken from a

632
00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:35,920
Speaker 2: county quarry. The blocks were transported one hundred and twenty

633
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:39,600
Speaker 2: seven years. Eighty thousand convicts were housed there. It was

634
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:42,840
Speaker 2: overcrowded with thirteen hundred inmates when it closed nineteen eighty four.

635
00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:45,320
Speaker 2: Towards the end of the twentyth century, it averages stabbing

636
00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:48,080
Speaker 2: of every ten days. It is a bad place. It

637
00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:51,840
Speaker 2: was a nasty, nasty place. Yeah, and so like the

638
00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:55,800
Speaker 2: state petitioned, it was called the death House. Literally, I'm

639
00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:58,600
Speaker 2: reading this is from New York Times. The death House

640
00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:01,200
Speaker 2: was the site of two hundred and forty three executions.

641
00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:04,640
Speaker 2: Forty eight whites and one hundred and ninety five blacks

642
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:07,240
Speaker 2: were executed. They're the youngest. A black boy from Clarendon

643
00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:09,520
Speaker 2: County accused of killing two white girls in nineteen forties

644
00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:12,800
Speaker 2: was fourteen. So like, this was a disgusting place. I

645
00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:14,440
Speaker 2: didn't No one knew this, and they were like, well,

646
00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:17,040
Speaker 2: this place is new and cheap. So we stayed there

647
00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:21,080
Speaker 2: and it explained everything. So the end of that story

648
00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:22,760
Speaker 2: is my boyfriend finally came. I was like, you have

649
00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:24,600
Speaker 2: to get me out of here. I don't know what's happening.

650
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:27,080
Speaker 2: I didn't know that yet. No one was saying anything

651
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:29,640
Speaker 2: until the very last day we left, and he was like,

652
00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:31,720
Speaker 2: let's go on a weekend trip on your day off

653
00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:35,920
Speaker 2: to Charleston. Meanwhile, Charleston, which was like an hour away,

654
00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:39,320
Speaker 2: the only thing to do there is go on ghost tours, right,

655
00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:40,000
Speaker 2: that's it.

656
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:43,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's a super super haunted lamp. How

657
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:45,680
Speaker 1: many ghosts do you think you saw in that house?

658
00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:46,960
Speaker 1: In that building?

659
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:49,600
Speaker 2: I saw the same guy twice in the gym and

660
00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:52,480
Speaker 2: was he working out? He was working out, but it

661
00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:54,880
Speaker 2: was it was weird. He was standing there He would

662
00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:58,240
Speaker 2: sometimes just stand still and stare, but there was no mirror.

663
00:33:58,240 --> 00:33:59,920
Speaker 2: He was standing out. He was just staring at what

664
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:00,920
Speaker 2: would have been.

665
00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:02,320
Speaker 1: Just like a cell.

666
00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:05,640
Speaker 2: I don't even think it's I think maybe a courtyard,

667
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:09,080
Speaker 2: or just maybe surveying the like what he could see,

668
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:11,239
Speaker 2: or maybe just out through the bar. I don't know.

669
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:12,640
Speaker 2: Did he look at you?

670
00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:13,440
Speaker 3: Never looked at me.

671
00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:17,480
Speaker 2: He would turn to the side a little bit, but

672
00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:19,680
Speaker 2: I was avoiding him because I don't like to look

673
00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:21,000
Speaker 2: at people in the gym. Jesus.

674
00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:23,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, no, no, no, God forbid.

675
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:25,840
Speaker 1: I mean, but he didn't have any First of all,

676
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:27,960
Speaker 1: if you're not listening to music, I feel.

677
00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:30,960
Speaker 2: Like you are no music. Yeah, if you're.

678
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:33,560
Speaker 1: At the gym and you don't have earbuds in of

679
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:34,360
Speaker 1: some sort.

680
00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:37,760
Speaker 2: Oh God, you're a ghost and you're a fear truly,

681
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:44,480
Speaker 2: you're a China even tan China. Yeah, your at Ngina.

682
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:48,279
Speaker 2: You're dead China. Yeah. It was scary and like that

683
00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:50,440
Speaker 2: tipped me off and I see things like that all

684
00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:50,880
Speaker 2: the time.

685
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:52,880
Speaker 1: But did you see other people there?

686
00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:54,040
Speaker 2: In my dreams?

687
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:54,520
Speaker 1: Oh?

688
00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:56,520
Speaker 2: Wow? The dreams are what messed me up the most.

689
00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:58,839
Speaker 2: They were prison he kind of dreams. It wasn't even

690
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:01,200
Speaker 2: that it was just horror. It was violent and it

691
00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:05,120
Speaker 2: was and I never have like rage dreams or violent dreams.

692
00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:08,320
Speaker 2: My dreams are I'm a lucid dreamer. Are you a

693
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:12,239
Speaker 2: lucid dreamer? Now, it's something you can practice and learn,

694
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:14,800
Speaker 2: and I highly recommend it. You should read a book card. Yeah.

695
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:18,560
Speaker 2: It really helps in your daily life because you awake

696
00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:20,920
Speaker 2: while you're conscious, while you're unconscious.

697
00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:22,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, that scares me.

698
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:23,080
Speaker 2: No, it's great.

699
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 1: I don't want I don't want to deal with sleep

700
00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:28,279
Speaker 1: paralysis or like anything like that. I just want to

701
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:31,839
Speaker 1: like be gone for a while and then wake up.

702
00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:32,520
Speaker 1: That's it.

703
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:33,960
Speaker 2: I get you.

704
00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:38,520
Speaker 1: But you said before I cut you off that that

705
00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:40,279
Speaker 1: kind of thing happens a lot. Like you just go

706
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:42,480
Speaker 1: around places and you think you see ghosts or.

707
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 2: What mmmm I do? But sometimes I don't. I don't.

708
00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:52,160
Speaker 2: I don't. It doesn't bug me, you know, like I

709
00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:54,239
Speaker 2: see people. Well, here's the other thing is that I

710
00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:55,879
Speaker 2: had a guy in the apartment I live in now.

711
00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:59,839
Speaker 2: We had three deaths in two months in the building. Yes,

712
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:03,239
Speaker 2: and it's a building from the twenties, and my landlord

713
00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:09,840
Speaker 2: there died and I sublet this place. Don't tell anyone,

714
00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:12,200
Speaker 2: but I technically sublet this place. It's kind of a

715
00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:14,000
Speaker 2: little bit illegal, and I've been there for three years,

716
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:19,480
Speaker 2: so it's basically mine. But the landlord who is was

717
00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:23,560
Speaker 2: this like large African American man who had speaking of

718
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:27,000
Speaker 2: Tangina and telling me I was jaundiced, had like very

719
00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:30,000
Speaker 2: yellow eyes, always had a cigar in his mouth and

720
00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:34,960
Speaker 2: in the building, which like what landlord promotes cigar smoking

721
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:37,400
Speaker 2: in the building, but it wasn't lit, but it just

722
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:40,000
Speaker 2: always was there, and he reaked of cigar smoke, and

723
00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:42,400
Speaker 2: he always passed me. No one else was ever around,

724
00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:44,160
Speaker 2: and he'd be like, hey, John, how are you? He

725
00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:46,319
Speaker 2: knew my name. I never told him my Name'd be like,

726
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:49,520
Speaker 2: how are you John? Meanwhile, he's the landlord. He shouldn't

727
00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:52,279
Speaker 2: know that I'm illegally subletting. But he always knew who

728
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:53,799
Speaker 2: I was, and he always said hello to me, and

729
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:56,160
Speaker 2: he was so nice, and I was like, hey, how

730
00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:57,840
Speaker 2: are you? Didn't know his name? I looked on the

731
00:36:57,840 --> 00:36:59,600
Speaker 2: mailbox and I'm like, what is this guy's name? Is

732
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:03,320
Speaker 2: our land I would tell the guy that I sublet from, like, oh,

733
00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:06,000
Speaker 2: saw the landlord. He is so sweet, and he's like, oh, Dave,

734
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:08,319
Speaker 2: like he's a short, little white guy. I'm like, no,

735
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:11,400
Speaker 2: it's tall, white, tall, you know, African American guy. Anyway,

736
00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:16,000
Speaker 2: So I come home one day and there's a fire

737
00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:19,560
Speaker 2: department there, with fire departments outside, and I was like,

738
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:23,200
Speaker 2: is everything okay? Like is our building on fire? And

739
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:24,640
Speaker 2: they were like, oh, it's just a drill. We do

740
00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:27,360
Speaker 2: a drill from time to time. And I was like, no, no,

741
00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:30,680
Speaker 2: you don't why are built? Why are building? But he's like, well,

742
00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:33,280
Speaker 2: we just and I could tell that he was trying

743
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:36,440
Speaker 2: to disarm me and not make me afraid. Meanwhile, I

744
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 2: don't care if the building burns down. I don't have

745
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:41,480
Speaker 2: anything in their value, Like I've insurance, Like get me

746
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:43,960
Speaker 2: your laptop, burn it down, burn it to the ground,

747
00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:47,640
Speaker 2: let me help. But he was so nice. I could

748
00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:48,960
Speaker 2: tell the way he was talking to me that he

749
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:52,279
Speaker 2: was lying. And then I came back and they were

750
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:54,960
Speaker 2: clearly getting someone out of the building who was a

751
00:37:54,960 --> 00:38:01,040
Speaker 2: dead body, and come to find out, the landlord had died.

752
00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:05,640
Speaker 2: And then this guy disappeared, but he wasn't the landlord.

753
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:09,000
Speaker 2: So I don't know this guy. But this guy was

754
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:11,320
Speaker 2: like inhabiting this apartment that was empty.

755
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:16,160
Speaker 1: So the cigar guy, yeah, was he wasn't the landlord,

756
00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:17,200
Speaker 1: but he didn't live there.

757
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:20,239
Speaker 2: He didn't live there though. Oh he was just but

758
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:21,040
Speaker 2: he was there.

759
00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:22,920
Speaker 3: He wasn't like a transient or anything like.

760
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:25,640
Speaker 2: He lived there. He was like I saw him like

761
00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:31,560
Speaker 2: coming out of different apartments at certain times, but the

762
00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:33,960
Speaker 2: apartment that there was someone who did die in that

763
00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:36,720
Speaker 2: apartment that was the apartment he came out of most

764
00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:39,200
Speaker 2: of but he did not live there and he didn't

765
00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:41,759
Speaker 2: He wasn't like a boyfriend or anything like. But I

766
00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:45,600
Speaker 2: saw him coming in and out of that apartment that

767
00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:49,120
Speaker 2: the actual landlord did live in, but he didn't know

768
00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:50,799
Speaker 2: the landlord. I'd be like, oh, I saw your friend.

769
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:53,080
Speaker 2: He's like, who are you talking about. I'm like the

770
00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:56,320
Speaker 2: big guy, you know, he's always around. He's like, I've

771
00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:58,400
Speaker 2: never seen anyone like that. So like that guy like

772
00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:02,000
Speaker 2: fully was a ghost. Wow. Yeah, and you do haven't

773
00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:04,160
Speaker 2: see him anymore. And I have never seen him since

774
00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:06,080
Speaker 2: ever since that guy died. He's like that cat that

775
00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:07,440
Speaker 2: sees people before they die.

776
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:09,080
Speaker 1: Wow.

777
00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:11,440
Speaker 2: Yeah. And he was the nice he was like an angel,

778
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:13,400
Speaker 2: yeah totally. Yeah.

779
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:16,919
Speaker 1: Well I've told this story before that my mother, when

780
00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:18,000
Speaker 1: my grandmother.

781
00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:19,000
Speaker 2: Was dying, she.

782
00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:24,120
Speaker 1: Uh, my mother was visiting my grandmother, and the nurse

783
00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:26,799
Speaker 1: told me that my grandmother was talking about these little

784
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:29,239
Speaker 1: kids they are like in the hallway and that I

785
00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:31,560
Speaker 1: don't know if it happens to be at that hospital

786
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:33,560
Speaker 1: or what. She said that that's a thing that happens

787
00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:35,680
Speaker 1: a lot when they're about to go, is that there's

788
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:38,200
Speaker 1: these little kids that come and they're like and they're

789
00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:40,600
Speaker 1: family members and like other people. And they said that.

790
00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:44,600
Speaker 1: My grandmother kept reporting that. Yeah, but so yeah, I mean,

791
00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:45,680
Speaker 1: I'm sure that could be.

792
00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:48,440
Speaker 2: And this guy stopped me at one point. And no

793
00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:51,120
Speaker 2: one else knows my name really because I keep to myself,

794
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:52,759
Speaker 2: you know, and they'll be like hi.

795
00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:54,960
Speaker 1: But he Honestly, I didn't realize that that's what it

796
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:57,319
Speaker 1: was until you said, John, that.

797
00:39:57,400 --> 00:39:59,200
Speaker 2: You know my name? Yeah, yeah, I know it's I

798
00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:04,480
Speaker 2: don't tell people name, right, I just say Tangina. And

799
00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:06,920
Speaker 2: but he's the one thing he puts because he was

800
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:08,800
Speaker 2: always like, hey, how are you? And then I would

801
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:11,759
Speaker 2: like kind of look around and if he gone. But

802
00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:15,480
Speaker 2: he did stop me at one point and he was like, hey,

803
00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:18,000
Speaker 2: we're going to get to your ceiling soon, and I

804
00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:21,920
Speaker 2: was like, my what And then he disappeared and I

805
00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:24,200
Speaker 2: was like, okay, great, is your ceiling die? Well a

806
00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:28,120
Speaker 2: week later, the ceiling caved in. You're kidding, no, And

807
00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:30,680
Speaker 2: because there was you know, like in January. It was

808
00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:36,160
Speaker 2: February of last year, and I was like, wow, my ceiling.

809
00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:38,000
Speaker 2: There was a little tiny leak, and then the entire

810
00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:41,400
Speaker 2: thing just caved in like two weeks after he said that,

811
00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:45,839
Speaker 2: and I didn't see him. So then I told the guy,

812
00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:48,200
Speaker 2: so I let from. I was like, I went it

813
00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:50,120
Speaker 2: caved in. I was like, my ceiling caved in. And

814
00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:52,600
Speaker 2: he was like, oh, okay, well, let me call the landlord.

815
00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:54,840
Speaker 2: And then this little white guy came in and I

816
00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:57,080
Speaker 2: was like, oh, well, I talked to, you know, the

817
00:40:57,160 --> 00:40:59,400
Speaker 2: other landlord. He was like, there is no other landlord.

818
00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:02,359
Speaker 2: He didn't even know that guy was no nobody did. Wow.

819
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:05,359
Speaker 1: So he's like an angel of death for humans and

820
00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:07,680
Speaker 1: even for like ceilings.

821
00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:16,319
Speaker 3: And for leaky ceilings. Okay, So when I was growing up,

822
00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:17,160
Speaker 3: there was this girl.

823
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:20,400
Speaker 2: So I grew up in San Antonio before San Antonio

824
00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:22,799
Speaker 2: was as big as it is now. It's like the

825
00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:26,000
Speaker 2: seventh largest city in the country now or something like that.

826
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:29,600
Speaker 2: I've never been there. You don't need to okay, it's okay.

827
00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:35,680
Speaker 2: And but there was my parents moved out kind of

828
00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:39,880
Speaker 2: were it's hard to explain. So there's the city and

829
00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:43,799
Speaker 2: then like thirty minutes out are kind of like country area,

830
00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:47,600
Speaker 2: which is now very cool and populated. But when we

831
00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:49,120
Speaker 2: moved out there, when I was a little kid, it

832
00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:54,520
Speaker 2: was nothing just country and for you know, like fifteen

833
00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:57,239
Speaker 2: minutes from us was like people who had moved there

834
00:41:57,320 --> 00:42:01,799
Speaker 2: who were like a little whack. And so there was

835
00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:06,960
Speaker 2: this family and they raised rabbits and lamas for and

836
00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:10,239
Speaker 2: they would shear them and make clothes out of the fur.

837
00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:15,040
Speaker 2: It's whack, and they were they would have sex like

838
00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:17,920
Speaker 2: the parents had sex all day to like experience like

839
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:19,880
Speaker 2: the joy of love making and stuff like that, and

840
00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:21,719
Speaker 2: the kids would be around. So there was how did

841
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:25,320
Speaker 2: how would you know? Because their daughter was named Nisha

842
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:27,839
Speaker 2: Brown and Nichsche Brown rode the bus so like they'd

843
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:30,520
Speaker 2: pick up Nishe first, they'd pick up us second, and

844
00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:33,080
Speaker 2: then they'd pick up like three people. That's not even

845
00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:37,719
Speaker 2: that funny. Why is anybody laughing? So Nisha Brown, what.

846
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:40,000
Speaker 1: I'm listening?

847
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:43,920
Speaker 2: What isn't me? No, they pick up Niche Brown at

848
00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:46,920
Speaker 2: the whack house, pick her up like Dodge her Lamas

849
00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:49,359
Speaker 2: and then they her parents are fucking then they pick

850
00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:51,799
Speaker 2: up me and my parents are like way Christian, and

851
00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:53,960
Speaker 2: then they would pick up like a few other people,

852
00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:56,200
Speaker 2: like in the Whack neighborhood, and then we'd go home.

853
00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:59,840
Speaker 2: So there was also this place called the Concept Therapy

854
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:03,360
Speaker 2: to shoot. Now, this guy was like a scientology l

855
00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:08,080
Speaker 2: round humbered guy. He created something called concept therapy, which

856
00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:09,839
Speaker 2: I still I just looked it up the other day

857
00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:11,960
Speaker 2: because we never understood it. There was a triangle and

858
00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:14,640
Speaker 2: then like a gated community and they raise peacocks, and

859
00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:16,600
Speaker 2: the peacocks would escape and come into our yard all

860
00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:18,719
Speaker 2: the time. Anyway, it was different than Niche Brown. I'm

861
00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:21,160
Speaker 2: off on a tangent. So they'd pick up Nichshe she

862
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:24,239
Speaker 2: was super fucking weird. And I'm not a bully, but

863
00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:27,759
Speaker 2: I bullied Niche Brown a little bit. I would be like, no,

864
00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:30,200
Speaker 2: I mean, Nis, if you're listening, I know you don't

865
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:32,000
Speaker 2: know how many times I've tried to locate Niche Brown.

866
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:35,560
Speaker 2: But that leads me to my ghost story. So because

867
00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:39,000
Speaker 2: I think Niche Brown never existed, I only I'm the

868
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:40,960
Speaker 2: only person who knew Niche Brown.

869
00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:43,520
Speaker 3: No one remembers her, but me, although she.

870
00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:46,080
Speaker 2: Was kind of shy but so like Nische Brown would

871
00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:49,279
Speaker 2: be in the bus and I would ask. I was

872
00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:51,839
Speaker 2: fascinated with her because her family was so different than mine,

873
00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:54,360
Speaker 2: because she'd be like, well, my parents make love. We

874
00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:57,840
Speaker 2: were young, we were like fifth grade and my parents

875
00:43:57,840 --> 00:44:00,279
Speaker 2: never spoke to us about sex. And she'd be like, well,

876
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:02,920
Speaker 2: you know, my parents make love when we get home.

877
00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:05,160
Speaker 2: And I'm like, in front of you, and she's like, well,

878
00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:07,120
Speaker 2: they go behind they go in their door, they go

879
00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:09,080
Speaker 2: behind their door, and they make love and we hear

880
00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:10,120
Speaker 2: it and it's natural.

881
00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:13,360
Speaker 3: And I'm like, that is disgusting. She's like, no, it's not.

882
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:15,400
Speaker 2: It's beautiful. It's like the way the world works. And

883
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:18,640
Speaker 2: I'm like, how that's not how I that is nasty

884
00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:21,359
Speaker 2: and she's like and then you know, and I was like,

885
00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:24,799
Speaker 2: she's like, yeah, my mom. She like she had a

886
00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:27,560
Speaker 2: spindle like in Sleeping Beauty, you know, like she would

887
00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:30,480
Speaker 2: spin the wool from the lamas and the rabbits and stuff.

888
00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:34,480
Speaker 2: And I'd be like, so you raise the rabbits and

889
00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:36,960
Speaker 2: then how do you get Like She's like, and we

890
00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:38,960
Speaker 2: eat the rabbits, we eat the fur or like we

891
00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:41,480
Speaker 2: make the fur into clothes and we and I'm like

892
00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:44,879
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, So, like do you my parents hunt and stuff?

893
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:46,560
Speaker 2: I'm like, do you shoot the rabbits? And she's like no,

894
00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:48,799
Speaker 2: my mom takes a knife and she just slits their

895
00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:52,200
Speaker 2: neck and then we just eat the rabbits and then

896
00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:54,400
Speaker 2: we like make their fur into clothes and like, so

897
00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:56,719
Speaker 2: is that sweater from like a rabbit.

898
00:44:56,840 --> 00:44:58,839
Speaker 3: She's like, no, this is from the Lama. And I

899
00:44:58,880 --> 00:44:59,400
Speaker 3: was like wow.

900
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:03,960
Speaker 2: So one night, all the guys in my neighborhood who

901
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:06,279
Speaker 2: were bullies, like they played truth or Darek and they're like,

902
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:09,160
Speaker 2: let's go and try to get one of Nisha's lamas

903
00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:11,600
Speaker 2: to spit at us because we heard lamas can spit,

904
00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:16,479
Speaker 2: so like we see. But the bullies knew Nisha well

905
00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:19,400
Speaker 2: because I told him about Nisha and told him had Lamas.

906
00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:21,880
Speaker 3: But like there was this really whack family and so

907
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:22,880
Speaker 3: like we went down.

908
00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:25,200
Speaker 2: To her to her house. It's just like fifteen minutes

909
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:26,680
Speaker 2: for us to walk to the end of our neighborhood

910
00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:29,520
Speaker 2: where the whack hippies live, and now it's like a

911
00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:32,799
Speaker 2: CBS like now there's no one sure. And so we

912
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:35,319
Speaker 2: found the Lama and they like irritated it and it

913
00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:38,000
Speaker 2: finally spit on my friend Justin. But like no sign

914
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:41,560
Speaker 2: of Nisha. Nisha sat alone in the cafeteria. And I

915
00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:44,480
Speaker 2: liked Nisha. I thought she was like fierce.

916
00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:45,560
Speaker 1: She sounds fascinating.

917
00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:47,799
Speaker 2: She was fascinating. She drank her milk really weird, like

918
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:51,160
Speaker 2: with a straw, but like she was fine, and.

919
00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:52,200
Speaker 1: So she uses straws.

920
00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:54,400
Speaker 2: Well, she'd be like, I know, like turtles. She's like

921
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:57,279
Speaker 2: deaths or turtles, but like yay lamas and like who

922
00:45:57,360 --> 00:46:02,920
Speaker 2: likes that? So well, basically Nisha was a ghost. But

923
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:05,440
Speaker 2: why do you think that? Because no one can corroborate

924
00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:09,720
Speaker 2: that Nisha existed but me. She wasn't any your books.

925
00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:10,880
Speaker 2: She wasn't in any.

926
00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:12,120
Speaker 1: Class, she wasn't in the yearbook.

927
00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:12,920
Speaker 2: She's in nothing.

928
00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:16,160
Speaker 1: So she was like an imaginary friend.

929
00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:19,440
Speaker 2: No, not to me, you mean like my imaginary No

930
00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:20,560
Speaker 2: she I mean yeah.

931
00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:25,160
Speaker 1: But because I'm always fascinated by these ghost stories, Niche's

932
00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:26,920
Speaker 1: family existed, that's the thing.

933
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:30,000
Speaker 2: Oh wow, and she had a little brother, and it

934
00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:31,200
Speaker 2: would be like, where's Niche.

935
00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:34,080
Speaker 1: Let's find the family and find out if I ever

936
00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:37,560
Speaker 1: had a Nisha? Have you had an I never had

937
00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:38,799
Speaker 1: I've never even heard that name.

938
00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:41,400
Speaker 2: Do you want Anisha, I can give you a Nisha.

939
00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:46,719
Speaker 1: Well, I'm fascinated by, like by kind of this imaginary

940
00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:49,480
Speaker 1: friend thing where like ghosts that you can straight up

941
00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:53,640
Speaker 1: talk to. And we spent a lot of time talking. Yeah,

942
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:56,120
Speaker 1: I mean it sounds kind of cool. Now, do you

943
00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:59,319
Speaker 1: remember how the relationship ended or anything like that?

944
00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:05,320
Speaker 2: Nisha and I both were transferred to a different school

945
00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:10,239
Speaker 2: because they changed the routing line. They built a new

946
00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:11,960
Speaker 2: middle school, so we both had to go to a

947
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:15,879
Speaker 2: different middle school. She was and so like I don't

948
00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:19,200
Speaker 2: know if she was. And then I was mercilessly bullied

949
00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:22,560
Speaker 2: in eighth grade and so, and I remember her being

950
00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:26,960
Speaker 2: bullied too, like she was ridiculed. But when I would

951
00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:30,080
Speaker 2: ask people about niche, they didn't have anything to say.

952
00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:33,560
Speaker 2: But I remember her. So maybe it was a construct

953
00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:36,040
Speaker 2: of like my projection of like being bullied.

954
00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:38,520
Speaker 1: She told you that she was bullied.

955
00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:44,759
Speaker 2: You saw I would witness like I would witness like her,

956
00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:48,360
Speaker 2: you know, like she'd be crying. I would talk to

957
00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:50,839
Speaker 2: her about it. Now I'm just thinking about it. Maybe

958
00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:57,920
Speaker 2: it was just like my projection of my own bulliedness. Anyway, Yeah, maybe,

959
00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:00,759
Speaker 2: I mean maybe, but she she was also kind of

960
00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:03,920
Speaker 2: a bitch, was she kind of? I mean she offered

961
00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:04,960
Speaker 2: me no sympathy.

962
00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:07,200
Speaker 1: Well, she was dead. She's like.

963
00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:12,040
Speaker 2: She was a tortured ghost. Yeah, she was really tortured.

964
00:48:12,040 --> 00:48:14,719
Speaker 2: She was definitely like trying to like figure her shit out.

965
00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:18,240
Speaker 2: But she was very lonely. She was really pale. China.

966
00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:22,800
Speaker 1: Wait so with Nischhe did she ever change her clothes?

967
00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:29,040
Speaker 2: Well, all I remember. I only remember her wearing the

968
00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:31,799
Speaker 2: same brown sweater. And she always said that her mother

969
00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:36,200
Speaker 2: made the sweater from the animals that they raised. Because

970
00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:37,799
Speaker 2: I would ask her about it, I'm like, wow, you

971
00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:40,520
Speaker 2: wear that sweater every day. I did ask her that, like.

972
00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:43,320
Speaker 1: Wow, you really like that sweater in the summer.

973
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:47,360
Speaker 2: We lived in South Texas, and she always like she

974
00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:49,680
Speaker 2: she never had a follow up. She never had a

975
00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:51,200
Speaker 2: she never offered a lot of it. Inform me.

976
00:48:51,239 --> 00:48:53,600
Speaker 3: She was very down. She's a major downer.

977
00:48:55,320 --> 00:48:56,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was a ghost.

978
00:48:56,160 --> 00:48:59,879
Speaker 2: I don't remember her in any like gym class rece

979
00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:02,040
Speaker 2: I remember her sometimes.

980
00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:04,920
Speaker 3: I didn't see her in the halls. I saw her.

981
00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:08,640
Speaker 2: I saw her at lunch sitting by yourself, but I

982
00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:10,799
Speaker 2: really only saw her on the bus and I never

983
00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:13,520
Speaker 2: saw her get dropped off because she was her house

984
00:49:13,600 --> 00:49:16,160
Speaker 2: was farther than mine, so she was already on the bar.

985
00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:18,160
Speaker 2: She was already on the bus when I got on

986
00:49:18,200 --> 00:49:20,080
Speaker 2: the bus, and when I got off the bus, she

987
00:49:20,160 --> 00:49:21,920
Speaker 2: was on the bus, so she only rode the bus.

988
00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:24,560
Speaker 1: If you live in San Antonio and you know anything

989
00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:27,040
Speaker 1: about Nisha, please let us know.

990
00:49:28,160 --> 00:49:29,640
Speaker 2: And one time I said, like, what kind of a

991
00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:32,120
Speaker 2: name is Nishe? And she was like, Nisha means night.

992
00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:40,880
Speaker 1: Hmmm, Nisha nash wash it was, yeah, it was honestly,

993
00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:45,080
Speaker 1: here's your script, Palegina, Pale China the musical. Let's take

994
00:49:45,120 --> 00:49:45,680
Speaker 1: all of yours.

995
00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:50,319
Speaker 2: It's all ballads. It's just all like Natalie Merchant sad songs, Palegina's.

996
00:49:51,080 --> 00:49:54,080
Speaker 1: Do you want to listen to some ghost voices?

997
00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:55,960
Speaker 2: Yes? Please, because now I think that like this was

998
00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:58,320
Speaker 2: just like a therapy session about all of my baggage.

999
00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:01,960
Speaker 1: No, no, no, well wait, hold up. Speaking of outside

1000
00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:05,960
Speaker 1: of San Antonio, did you ever go to the famous

1001
00:50:07,120 --> 00:50:09,799
Speaker 1: the car you know, the car over the train tracks.

1002
00:50:09,600 --> 00:50:12,600
Speaker 2: Of course and the baby powder on the winds show. Yes, yes.

1003
00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:15,239
Speaker 1: And I hear from people all the time about it

1004
00:50:15,239 --> 00:50:18,400
Speaker 1: seems like almost every city has the same exact story,

1005
00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:21,640
Speaker 1: but the story is in Santa outside of San Antonio.

1006
00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:26,280
Speaker 1: There's like train tracks where a terrible bus accident happened,

1007
00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:30,440
Speaker 1: you know, nineteen thirty four, and uh, you know, the

1008
00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:33,359
Speaker 1: bus stalls on the train tracks. The train comes kills

1009
00:50:33,400 --> 00:50:36,440
Speaker 1: all the kids. But now, if you put your car

1010
00:50:36,600 --> 00:50:40,800
Speaker 1: in neutral, it will coast over the train tracks.

1011
00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:42,279
Speaker 2: And if you put baby.

1012
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:44,640
Speaker 1: Powder on the back of your car, you'll see fingerprints

1013
00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:45,240
Speaker 1: of children.

1014
00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:47,759
Speaker 2: They'll save you, they'll save you, they'll push you out

1015
00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:48,400
Speaker 2: the tracks.

1016
00:50:48,840 --> 00:50:50,200
Speaker 1: And so what happened when you went.

1017
00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:54,319
Speaker 2: I mean that happened, but I can only imagine that

1018
00:50:54,360 --> 00:50:56,640
Speaker 2: someone was planted like one of my because I went

1019
00:50:56,680 --> 00:50:58,840
Speaker 2: with my older sister's friends when I was younger, and

1020
00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:01,360
Speaker 2: I can only imagine that someone like faked it faked

1021
00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:03,600
Speaker 2: what part the hands on the windshield?

1022
00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:07,080
Speaker 1: Well, that's the thing I've I've looked all over YouTube

1023
00:51:07,120 --> 00:51:09,560
Speaker 1: at this and there is It has been on TV

1024
00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:12,000
Speaker 1: shows where they've debunked it. Apparently it's like kind of

1025
00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:15,080
Speaker 1: an illusion where it looks like it's downhill or it

1026
00:51:15,080 --> 00:51:17,920
Speaker 1: looks like it's uphill, but it's really downhill. Like they

1027
00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:20,080
Speaker 1: took a water bottle and they rolled it like they

1028
00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:22,080
Speaker 1: just like set it and it rolled down.

1029
00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:26,480
Speaker 2: So I also think if you put your hands on

1030
00:51:26,560 --> 00:51:29,239
Speaker 2: it before you put the baby powder on it, and

1031
00:51:29,239 --> 00:51:33,080
Speaker 2: then you cover it and then you like blow air

1032
00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:38,319
Speaker 2: around it, it will that the oil from the hands, yeah,

1033
00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:41,360
Speaker 2: will reappear. There's another thing that happen at my church,

1034
00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:43,200
Speaker 2: and there was this woman that came to our church

1035
00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:45,440
Speaker 2: and she was like, I'm possessed. I need an exorcism.

1036
00:51:45,719 --> 00:51:48,000
Speaker 2: And our church was not that kind of church, but

1037
00:51:49,040 --> 00:51:50,920
Speaker 2: my dad came home really freaked out one time and

1038
00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:52,920
Speaker 2: he was and my dad's not that kind of believer,

1039
00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:55,920
Speaker 2: but he was, like things were appearing on her skin,

1040
00:51:56,480 --> 00:51:57,920
Speaker 2: and then they were trying to figure out like how

1041
00:51:57,920 --> 00:52:00,000
Speaker 2: she was making that happen. And apparently like if you

1042
00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:02,480
Speaker 2: make that mark in your skin and let you let

1043
00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:04,640
Speaker 2: it rest and then you work yourself up into a tizzy,

1044
00:52:04,719 --> 00:52:07,000
Speaker 2: like it can appear again. And then this girl, Carrie

1045
00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:09,440
Speaker 2: who lived in Michael dees that she had to be

1046
00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:11,239
Speaker 2: taken away to a mental asylum because she had like

1047
00:52:11,239 --> 00:52:12,640
Speaker 2: a freak out for watching The Exorcist.

1048
00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:14,360
Speaker 4: To take go, it's time for.

1049
00:52:16,080 --> 00:52:24,880
Speaker 1: Evp or ev plicse. As a dedicated fan of the show,

1050
00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:27,600
Speaker 1: you already know what happens. I'm gonna play some ghost

1051
00:52:27,640 --> 00:52:28,960
Speaker 1: voices from YouTube.

1052
00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:29,520
Speaker 2: Ready for it.

1053
00:52:29,560 --> 00:52:33,360
Speaker 1: I want you to guess what the ghost hunter believes.

1054
00:52:34,040 --> 00:52:37,360
Speaker 1: This voice is saying. Okay, this one comes from somebody

1055
00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:44,279
Speaker 1: named Paul Coffee fake name, and it's what co f

1056
00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:50,200
Speaker 1: f e y. It is at Hot Wells Hotel in

1057
00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:53,239
Speaker 1: San Diego or no, sorry, San Antonio.

1058
00:52:53,880 --> 00:52:56,360
Speaker 2: Have you ever been there Hot Wells Hot Wells.

1059
00:52:56,800 --> 00:53:01,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like it used to be a hotel of

1060
00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:04,560
Speaker 1: like the rich and famous, and now it's just like ruins.

1061
00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:06,120
Speaker 2: I love that.

1062
00:53:06,480 --> 00:53:08,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, and people go there.

1063
00:53:10,760 --> 00:53:15,120
Speaker 2: I love Ruins. Tell me what you think.

1064
00:53:16,719 --> 00:53:19,279
Speaker 1: This ghost is saying. Okay, so first you're gonna hear

1065
00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:22,719
Speaker 1: Paul or somebody say do you have anything you want

1066
00:53:22,719 --> 00:53:24,879
Speaker 1: to tell us? And then we're gonna hear a.

1067
00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:37,479
Speaker 2: Ghost Yeah you want to tell us? One more time

1068
00:53:47,080 --> 00:53:48,040
Speaker 2: is do you want me to tell you what I

1069
00:53:48,080 --> 00:53:52,880
Speaker 2: think they're saying. They're saying everything must go, like anything

1070
00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:55,560
Speaker 2: must go, kind of like a mattress sale on Labor Day.

1071
00:53:56,960 --> 00:54:00,520
Speaker 1: I was thinking, like some bitchy like uh stock that

1072
00:54:00,560 --> 00:54:01,200
Speaker 1: comes into your.

1073
00:54:02,640 --> 00:54:06,640
Speaker 2: Everything that or something is like everything and then oh, sound,

1074
00:54:06,680 --> 00:54:07,080
Speaker 2: what is it?

1075
00:54:07,160 --> 00:54:07,840
Speaker 1: Let's try it again?

1076
00:54:13,440 --> 00:54:15,200
Speaker 2: So there's an s sound in there as well.

1077
00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:21,000
Speaker 1: Okay, here's some options. Is it a Alison Janny please

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Speaker 1: b any journey Counts. I don't know. Maybe it's like

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Speaker 1: one of those posters in the doctor's office or something

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00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:36,240
Speaker 1: live laugh love? Is it d Annie, don't go? Or see?

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Speaker 1: I like Jenga.

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00:54:43,360 --> 00:54:44,040
Speaker 2: I like Jenga.

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00:54:44,800 --> 00:54:51,480
Speaker 1: It sounds like I like I like Jenka. They're saying

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00:54:51,520 --> 00:54:53,520
Speaker 1: that it's any journey counts.

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Speaker 2: I think they're sort of close. But that's I mean

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Speaker 2: by syllables, they're kind of close, and by syllables and vowels,

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Speaker 2: but like, it's not it's not what this bitch is saying.

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Speaker 1: No, she's saying everything must go.

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Speaker 2: I think, so okay, let's try another one or all

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00:55:08,200 --> 00:55:09,239
Speaker 2: of you must go.

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Speaker 1: In the same exact video, they pull out the spirit box,

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Speaker 1: which a spirit box you know what that is? A

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00:55:15,480 --> 00:55:18,880
Speaker 1: spirit box sort of uses like radio frequencies and you

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00:55:18,960 --> 00:55:23,960
Speaker 1: can like it's more robotic sounding at times. They then

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00:55:24,120 --> 00:55:28,719
Speaker 1: ask what's your name? Tell me your name, and they

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Speaker 1: get a message. Okay, so let's listen.

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00:55:33,080 --> 00:55:33,719
Speaker 4: What's your name?

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00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:34,839
Speaker 1: Tell me your name?

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Speaker 2: You used on on one more time? Ishtar, I mean,

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00:55:53,400 --> 00:55:57,719
Speaker 2: what is this one more time? Okay?

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00:55:57,800 --> 00:55:58,759
Speaker 1: Let's slay it from the top.

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00:55:59,360 --> 00:55:59,920
Speaker 4: What's your name?

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00:56:00,480 --> 00:56:01,120
Speaker 1: How are your name?

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00:56:06,360 --> 00:56:09,120
Speaker 2: Linda? It's Linda?

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00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:12,960
Speaker 1: Is it a Kathy?

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00:56:13,920 --> 00:56:16,399
Speaker 2: That's good? Is it b eh?

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00:56:17,080 --> 00:56:29,040
Speaker 1: Idiot? C Denise or d tan Jina? I mean, let's

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00:56:29,040 --> 00:56:29,560
Speaker 1: hear it again.

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00:56:29,760 --> 00:56:34,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, idiot.

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00:56:35,120 --> 00:56:37,719
Speaker 1: It sounds like an idiot, but they're telling me it

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00:56:37,719 --> 00:56:38,480
Speaker 1: says Denise.

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Speaker 2: No, fuck that it's idiot.

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00:56:40,239 --> 00:56:48,080
Speaker 1: I love this ghost Denise, Denise, Denise. Let's hear it again.

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00:56:48,680 --> 00:56:49,319
Speaker 4: What's your name?

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00:56:49,800 --> 00:56:50,439
Speaker 1: How are your name?

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00:56:54,760 --> 00:56:54,800
Speaker 2: Is?

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00:56:54,960 --> 00:56:59,960
Speaker 1: Straight up idiot idiot Denise? Idiot Denise?

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00:57:01,680 --> 00:57:03,520
Speaker 2: Is that it's a lot more?

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00:57:03,719 --> 00:57:04,880
Speaker 1: I know, it's so fun.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, idiot idiot.

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00:57:09,280 --> 00:57:12,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's it, that's everything. You really brought us some

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00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:13,280
Speaker 1: stories today.

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Speaker 3: I feel like it was boring, but like that's just

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Speaker 3: my insecurity.

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Speaker 2: No, it wasn't that boring, Okay, But on a scale

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Speaker 2: of one to Tangina, how is how is mygina?

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00:57:22,480 --> 00:57:23,520
Speaker 1: Yourgina was great?

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Speaker 2: I was more like that first house cleaner who doesn't

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00:57:27,200 --> 00:57:28,800
Speaker 2: do a good job, it gets fired.

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Speaker 1: Well, I'm sure that most people aren't even listening anymore,

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00:57:32,880 --> 00:57:33,680
Speaker 1: of course, but.

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00:57:35,120 --> 00:57:37,040
Speaker 2: Tell us some people can find you, Okay, they can

1133
00:57:37,040 --> 00:57:39,440
Speaker 2: find me at the boss of You on Twitter they

1134
00:57:39,440 --> 00:57:42,800
Speaker 2: can find me at John Arthur Hill on Instagram that's

1135
00:57:42,840 --> 00:57:45,960
Speaker 2: with an H and subscribe to Patreon, which is hol

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00:57:46,120 --> 00:57:46,760
Speaker 2: Edica's house.

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Speaker 1: Ah. I love John Hill. That was fun.

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00:57:52,200 --> 00:57:52,480
Speaker 2: Huh.

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00:57:52,680 --> 00:57:58,280
Speaker 1: Some spookiness you guys. We have got some great episodes

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Speaker 1: coming up, and I'm gonna do a listener episode very soon.

1141
00:58:02,160 --> 00:58:04,840
Speaker 1: I think we're gonna release one next week, so look

1142
00:58:04,880 --> 00:58:07,240
Speaker 1: out for that. And if you want to be on

1143
00:58:07,280 --> 00:58:09,200
Speaker 1: a listener episode, or if you have a ghost story,

1144
00:58:09,760 --> 00:58:12,280
Speaker 1: you can, you know, if you want to be specifically

1145
00:58:12,320 --> 00:58:15,440
Speaker 1: on the listener episode, send me an email ghosted by

1146
00:58:15,600 --> 00:58:18,440
Speaker 1: Roz at gmail dot com and write in the header

1147
00:58:19,120 --> 00:58:22,080
Speaker 1: listener episode. Or if you want to just share a story,

1148
00:58:22,120 --> 00:58:23,880
Speaker 1: you can put it in a five star review on

1149
00:58:23,920 --> 00:58:26,800
Speaker 1: Apple Podcasts, or you know, you can just give us

1150
00:58:26,840 --> 00:58:29,280
Speaker 1: five stars even if you don't have a story, or

1151
00:58:29,320 --> 00:58:32,760
Speaker 1: you can join the Facebook group Ghosted by Roz jez Falas.

1152
00:58:33,080 --> 00:58:37,640
Speaker 1: I have a Facebook page, I'm on Instagram, cameout all

1153
00:58:37,720 --> 00:58:43,440
Speaker 1: those places, and I've got a live show coming up

1154
00:58:43,640 --> 00:58:49,440
Speaker 1: in Los Angeles in January, so make sure you're checking

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00:58:49,480 --> 00:58:52,560
Speaker 1: social media. I'll tell you more about that very soon

1156
00:58:52,640 --> 00:58:57,200
Speaker 1: on the show. Guys. I love you all, both living

1157
00:58:57,640 --> 00:59:01,120
Speaker 1: and dead. But if I didn't ask you to, don't

1158
00:59:01,240 --> 00:59:01,640
Speaker 1: haunt me.

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00:59:02,160 --> 00:59:15,040
Speaker 4: Gaybye, Star bans On.

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Speaker 2: There a podcast, a podcast network,