1
00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:04,080
Speaker 1: There, ding Dong. Today's show is brought to you by

2
00:00:04,120 --> 00:00:07,720
Speaker 1: Casper dot Com. Receives fifty dollars towards any mattress purchase

3
00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:11,920
Speaker 1: at www dot Casper Trial dot com. Forward slash Lost

4
00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:14,520
Speaker 1: Culture e STA and by Whoppy Parker dot com. Get

5
00:00:14,520 --> 00:00:17,960
Speaker 1: a free five day home trial at www dot warby

6
00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:21,360
Speaker 1: Parker Trial dot com. Forward Slash Lost Culture stas five

7
00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:25,480
Speaker 1: pairs five days free Lost Cultures. This is brought to

8
00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:27,960
Speaker 1: you by the Forever Dog podcast Network. Be sure to

9
00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:31,320
Speaker 1: check out more original comedy podcasts at forever dot Podcasts

10
00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:33,200
Speaker 1: dot com. And if you love them what you're hearing

11
00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:35,680
Speaker 1: and you're a fan of Lost Cultures, don't forget to

12
00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:38,120
Speaker 1: subscribe on iTunes. Give us a five star rating and

13
00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:45,400
Speaker 1: leave a going review. Yes, God, my grandma and your

14
00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:50,760
Speaker 1: grandma was sitting back the fun my grandma to your grandma.

15
00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:57,520
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say funny. It's a glad go on date,

16
00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:05,959
Speaker 1: jagamo on ding Dong l calling is it a night

17
00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:08,760
Speaker 1: arism a night, It's a night, honey zaza zoo. I

18
00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:10,479
Speaker 1: feel it in the air sets in the city. Reference

19
00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:14,120
Speaker 1: you've been saying as of late, I mean I've been

20
00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:19,959
Speaker 1: watching sex in the city again. Sorry, okay, okay, please

21
00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:24,960
Speaker 1: honestly here to call out carry on her bullshit? Oh

22
00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:27,440
Speaker 1: my god, other things. It's our amazing guest. Can we

23
00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:29,720
Speaker 1: list the credit? The credit honey? Oh my god, I

24
00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:31,560
Speaker 1: mean where the York Times best selling author and you

25
00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:33,880
Speaker 1: best selling author of You Can't Touch My Hair and

26
00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:36,600
Speaker 1: other things. I stopped to explain. We're riding on the

27
00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:40,680
Speaker 1: last season of Portlandia. If you enjoy cutting edge, amazing

28
00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:44,240
Speaker 1: sketch comedy by the pros, come through. And if you

29
00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:48,120
Speaker 1: enjoy amazing podcast on w and I see tute queens,

30
00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:51,080
Speaker 1: so many white guys, you guys podcast, Queen podcast Queen,

31
00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:55,120
Speaker 1: and she's on I Love Dicks. We are grace, We

32
00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:59,560
Speaker 1: are graced with the president of a Femie Robinson. Thank you.

33
00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:03,840
Speaker 1: So we are hearing those credits, I'm like, oh, I

34
00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:07,440
Speaker 1: have done something. Yes, that's the thing. We got to

35
00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:09,560
Speaker 1: make the guests feel good, and you know they didn't

36
00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:15,799
Speaker 1: even know they made themselves feel work all I'm gonna workaholic?

37
00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:18,720
Speaker 1: Is this? Is this the most like inane, boring thing

38
00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:20,519
Speaker 1: at this point for people to just say at you,

39
00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:25,000
Speaker 1: you work so much? No, because I always think I

40
00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:28,239
Speaker 1: don't work enough. I'm always like, oh I'm not you know,

41
00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:30,480
Speaker 1: people are making deals left and around, like I need

42
00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:34,280
Speaker 1: to be doing more. So it's I need to just relax.

43
00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:37,160
Speaker 1: That's what I need. So are you waking up early

44
00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:40,720
Speaker 1: every morning? Well? Yes, so I try and get up

45
00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:44,480
Speaker 1: around seven. I can go to the gym in the morning. Equinox.

46
00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:49,040
Speaker 1: I joined Equinox. Gotta get that eucalyptus. Yes, okay, I

47
00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:52,040
Speaker 1: never I used to roll my eyes at Equinox, but

48
00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:56,839
Speaker 1: it is. It's very goop, but it's also great. It's

49
00:02:56,919 --> 00:03:00,760
Speaker 1: so goop. There's a lot of things about that are great. Yeah. Sure,

50
00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:04,520
Speaker 1: is this an l A Developments to New York? I started? Okay,

51
00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:07,239
Speaker 1: So last year I have my book tour and I

52
00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:08,919
Speaker 1: was shooting I Love Dick, and I was just like

53
00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:11,560
Speaker 1: stress eating because it was like a lot of traveling

54
00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:14,560
Speaker 1: and I was like not having sex. It's just like carbs,

55
00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:21,079
Speaker 1: and it's like carbs aren't not penises, but emotionally a

56
00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:23,160
Speaker 1: lot of people out there that are thinking cars penises.

57
00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:26,760
Speaker 1: A girl, listen up, listen up. And so I was

58
00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:28,760
Speaker 1: just like, I don't like that I'm eating all the

59
00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:31,440
Speaker 1: time and just sitting and being stressed out and like

60
00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:33,800
Speaker 1: everyone was just like, you should relax. Like a lot

61
00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:36,000
Speaker 1: of people are like, you're very tense, and I was like, oh,

62
00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:38,760
Speaker 1: but they were right. I am a very tense person.

63
00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:40,280
Speaker 1: So I was like, let me join the gym. So

64
00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:43,160
Speaker 1: I joined in New York. I have the destination, which

65
00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:47,920
Speaker 1: means I can go to any of them and I

66
00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:50,120
Speaker 1: love it. So when you're in the gym, what are

67
00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:55,840
Speaker 1: you doing? You a runner? No, I do snatch and

68
00:03:55,920 --> 00:03:59,760
Speaker 1: I do spin class. Okay, yeah, okay, y'all. I'm trying

69
00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:02,440
Speaker 1: to get matt on soul cycle because I am I'm

70
00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:06,400
Speaker 1: officially in that cult. I get it. Class is great.

71
00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:09,400
Speaker 1: And now you know what I'm down for is I'm

72
00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:12,000
Speaker 1: down for that emotional release that apparently comes after soul

73
00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:15,920
Speaker 1: cycle and spin. But I am not down for the

74
00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:21,960
Speaker 1: energy of This is your soul and it's about the

75
00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:26,359
Speaker 1: energy of the energy that when you're in the moment

76
00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:29,920
Speaker 1: and you're doing you're climbing up that hill. Okay, you're

77
00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:32,720
Speaker 1: gonna want to hear that motivation because you're gonna want

78
00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:36,120
Speaker 1: to bail. And they're like you, you like traveled on

79
00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:39,240
Speaker 1: the train to get here, this is your life. Take control,

80
00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:41,560
Speaker 1: and it's like, yeah, you guys, I have to shout out.

81
00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:46,960
Speaker 1: I have to shout out this iconic, iconique soul cycle

82
00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:50,800
Speaker 1: instructor in New York. So my friend Meet and I

83
00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:54,080
Speaker 1: signed up for a Gog versus Beyonce class at the

84
00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:57,719
Speaker 1: one in Nomad and it was gonna be with this instructor, Taylor,

85
00:04:57,720 --> 00:05:00,440
Speaker 1: who is apparently very popular. We get an mail the

86
00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:02,320
Speaker 1: morning of saying that he dropped out that we're getting

87
00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:06,040
Speaker 1: a sub named Claire into where Claire comes in with

88
00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:12,560
Speaker 1: this pixie cut, just this gorgeous specimen, and she gagged

89
00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:16,160
Speaker 1: me and Metra for filth because exactly during the climb,

90
00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:18,239
Speaker 1: when we felt like we were going to die, Claire

91
00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:20,440
Speaker 1: just goes. And I told you this, I think, But

92
00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:23,040
Speaker 1: she goes, and this is for everyone to hear except

93
00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:25,839
Speaker 1: and taken. She goes. You know what, no one said

94
00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:28,600
Speaker 1: this was going to be easy. But easy doesn't put

95
00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:31,600
Speaker 1: a roof over your head. Easy doesn't put food on

96
00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:34,720
Speaker 1: the table. Easy does not help you move forward with

97
00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:37,480
Speaker 1: your life. So no, I know it's not easy, but

98
00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:40,880
Speaker 1: who cares about easy? Now turn the dial up and

99
00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:49,040
Speaker 1: it was the most glorious moment in the world. There's

100
00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:52,480
Speaker 1: a global effect and the endorsed the endorphins forcing through

101
00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:57,200
Speaker 1: your veins, like you feel like golden goddess. Like you

102
00:05:57,360 --> 00:05:59,719
Speaker 1: have a couple of people here, a couple of male

103
00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:02,160
Speaker 1: and you're here who do spin class And I really

104
00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:07,160
Speaker 1: like this. Well back in the day, I was a

105
00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:10,240
Speaker 1: big cross country runner. When I have the build for it,

106
00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:15,360
Speaker 1: have physique of someone that used to run, whose metabolism

107
00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:19,480
Speaker 1: is like, come on, come on, please use me. Well,

108
00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:21,840
Speaker 1: the thing is like it's just getting a little like

109
00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:24,400
Speaker 1: I know what it's like under the hood, and it's

110
00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:28,280
Speaker 1: getting a little bit less tight, you know what I mean.

111
00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:31,039
Speaker 1: Like now it's starting to like a little bit called

112
00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:35,240
Speaker 1: super super so that's the way we say it. But

113
00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:37,880
Speaker 1: but anyway, yes, I would love to get back get

114
00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:39,600
Speaker 1: back into it. I would love to find something that

115
00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:42,480
Speaker 1: really works, because lifting weights doesn't. Yeah, I'm Mike over it.

116
00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:45,960
Speaker 1: I'm like, who cares. But it's like not good because

117
00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:48,640
Speaker 1: like your muscles are like going to atrophy the older

118
00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:51,480
Speaker 1: you get. But I'm like it's boring. Yeah, Also it

119
00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:54,040
Speaker 1: is hard. I know for some people they just prefer

120
00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:56,000
Speaker 1: to lift weights and they think that cardio is just

121
00:06:56,160 --> 00:06:58,600
Speaker 1: the hard one. For me, the cardio is the easy one.

122
00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:01,040
Speaker 1: It almost feels like I didn't like I'm cheating when

123
00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:04,080
Speaker 1: I'm doing it just as easier. But I don't know.

124
00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:08,520
Speaker 1: I'm just on that precipice of pulling the trigger on

125
00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:12,160
Speaker 1: the equinox because it's just it's worth it. It's life changing.

126
00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:14,840
Speaker 1: You're going to start. I started shopping at Lulu women,

127
00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:18,960
Speaker 1: I know, and you have to just get into. It's

128
00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:22,480
Speaker 1: a whole culture. Seen. Everyone there is good looking. You're like,

129
00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:24,640
Speaker 1: that's what I'm like in three months. That's why I'm

130
00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:27,440
Speaker 1: like in six months, it's great. Honestly attainable. Though it

131
00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:29,800
Speaker 1: is attainable. I mean there's some people who are like, WHOA,

132
00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:33,320
Speaker 1: all right, but there's a reason why all this popular

133
00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:37,600
Speaker 1: stuff is popular. Yeah, totally. And we just boke before

134
00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:41,280
Speaker 1: we got on air about how Starbucks doesn't mess around guys.

135
00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:43,800
Speaker 1: Phoebe brought us these cake pops and these are delicious.

136
00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:46,040
Speaker 1: Oh my god, Phoebe, thank you so much. Yeah, of course,

137
00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:49,880
Speaker 1: the perspected the art of cake pops. Yeah, they're really good. Anyway.

138
00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:52,880
Speaker 1: The only thing they don't nail in Starbucks is the

139
00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:56,800
Speaker 1: kind of music that they sell. Yeah, it's like Cheryl Crowe,

140
00:07:56,920 --> 00:07:59,400
Speaker 1: You're like, what, I love her to death, but like

141
00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:02,640
Speaker 1: I'm not probased like the Kelly Clarkson Christmas album in there,

142
00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:05,000
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like Wrapped in Red is

143
00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:08,080
Speaker 1: on the shelf. You are the target demo for exactly,

144
00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:11,320
Speaker 1: but you do what they're doing. But you're saying that's

145
00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:14,280
Speaker 1: not that's not the right move. Well, I mean it's

146
00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:16,840
Speaker 1: not cool. Sure, you know what I like? Yeah, you

147
00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:18,800
Speaker 1: know it doesn't have to be cool, Phoebe. We're going

148
00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:20,560
Speaker 1: to ask you what we ask all of our guests,

149
00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:23,960
Speaker 1: which is what is the culture? That means you say

150
00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:27,840
Speaker 1: culture is for me? Yes, this is basically young Phoebe

151
00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:32,319
Speaker 1: was like, wow, I'm experiencing this in the cultural lexicon,

152
00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:36,040
Speaker 1: whether it's movies, television, music, whatever. Are also like something

153
00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:38,439
Speaker 1: in your life, something that happened that really influenced you

154
00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:42,080
Speaker 1: as a Phoebe? Oh my gosh, well so many things.

155
00:08:42,160 --> 00:08:45,200
Speaker 1: I'm such a like pop culture head. I guess number one.

156
00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:47,760
Speaker 1: I'm gonna list a few things. So Number one is

157
00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:50,559
Speaker 1: my favorite band of all time? You two, I know

158
00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:55,240
Speaker 1: it's well documented. There's a paper trail, I mean in

159
00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:59,000
Speaker 1: the book, like you literally number by number talk about

160
00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:02,680
Speaker 1: each member and how like fucking Adam Clayton dated Naomi

161
00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:05,280
Speaker 1: Campbell and oh my god, did your research. I mean,

162
00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:09,079
Speaker 1: but you went into it, so you too, Yeah, you too.

163
00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:17,599
Speaker 1: They just are very never would honestly you too. I

164
00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:25,439
Speaker 1: never got into them. That's fine them, Okay. I just

165
00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:29,200
Speaker 1: I like how like big their their music is very

166
00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:35,400
Speaker 1: like anthemic and it's very like hopeful, and I like

167
00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:38,240
Speaker 1: their message and like I'm not a religious person, but

168
00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:40,720
Speaker 1: they're religious, so their music is kind of like has

169
00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:43,880
Speaker 1: spiritual elements to that I really identify with. And I

170
00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:45,839
Speaker 1: don't know, I just think like sometimes when you're like

171
00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:49,920
Speaker 1: twelve or thirteen, like if something just hits you at

172
00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:55,040
Speaker 1: that age, Yeah, exactly. Um. I just love them so much.

173
00:09:55,080 --> 00:09:57,199
Speaker 1: I love their philanthropic work. Like to me, I'm like

174
00:09:57,280 --> 00:09:59,120
Speaker 1: the two people I want to be like our Oprah

175
00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:02,599
Speaker 1: and Botto whatever they like. Whatever Oprah does, literally, I'm like,

176
00:10:02,679 --> 00:10:06,679
Speaker 1: I'm doing that your hands down. They have YouTube has

177
00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:10,679
Speaker 1: one song. Um oh sometimes you can't make it. Oh

178
00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:16,480
Speaker 1: I love that. Okay, Okay, we have a little bit

179
00:10:16,520 --> 00:10:21,240
Speaker 1: of that was so good. That was like really good.

180
00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:25,880
Speaker 1: I mean it, but you guys could do it and

181
00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:28,559
Speaker 1: it would be fine. He would hear me and he

182
00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:36,160
Speaker 1: wouldn't be mad. Sure. Yeah, Um, so YouTube number one, yes,

183
00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:41,040
Speaker 1: number two. Felicity okay, one of the greatest TV shows

184
00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:44,520
Speaker 1: of all time? Yeah, have you seen it? Well, I

185
00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:46,760
Speaker 1: was going to say, I'm not. This is something where

186
00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:48,079
Speaker 1: we have to we have to go back and do

187
00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:51,280
Speaker 1: our research because I do know the cultural impact of Felicity.

188
00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:58,640
Speaker 1: How old you, guys, I'm thirty two. Stop, so it's

189
00:10:58,760 --> 00:11:03,240
Speaker 1: pre you yeah, yeah, just pretty okay. Yeah, So I

190
00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:05,679
Speaker 1: was fourteen when it came out on the w B.

191
00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:07,520
Speaker 1: That's how long ago was it on the w B?

192
00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:16,280
Speaker 1: Dumbass like singing frog and obviously it was that stupid

193
00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:19,599
Speaker 1: frog like what is this um? And obviously I was

194
00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:21,920
Speaker 1: a virgin at the time, you know, listening to you

195
00:11:22,040 --> 00:11:25,319
Speaker 1: too and just being like yeah bono um, not losing

196
00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:31,680
Speaker 1: it real quick. And so Felicity okay. So the back

197
00:11:31,760 --> 00:11:36,520
Speaker 1: story is Felicity is from Palo Alto and she's graduating

198
00:11:36,559 --> 00:11:39,160
Speaker 1: high school and this guy Ben, it's like bit her crush,

199
00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:42,679
Speaker 1: and so she's like, oh, you signed my yearbook and

200
00:11:42,760 --> 00:11:45,199
Speaker 1: he's like sure, and he like takes it and goes

201
00:11:45,280 --> 00:11:47,600
Speaker 1: and sits down like on a grassy knoll and like rights,

202
00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:50,880
Speaker 1: it's like really long message and he gives it back

203
00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:52,480
Speaker 1: to her. She was like, what's going on? And she

204
00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:55,000
Speaker 1: reads and it was just like really sweet, like you

205
00:11:55,080 --> 00:11:57,480
Speaker 1: still always see you around and wonder like what you

206
00:11:57,559 --> 00:11:59,559
Speaker 1: were thinking and who you were like, and I just

207
00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:02,600
Speaker 1: never had like I just never thought to like say

208
00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:06,720
Speaker 1: anything to you. But you're like really interesting. So she decides,

209
00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:08,760
Speaker 1: you know, I'm gonna major at what is it's not

210
00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:10,800
Speaker 1: n y U because they couldn't get the license for

211
00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:15,000
Speaker 1: that University of New York, Yeah, College of New York

212
00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:20,280
Speaker 1: l L. And so she besides, she's going, Hey, what

213
00:12:20,400 --> 00:12:22,199
Speaker 1: school are you going to in the fall? And he

214
00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:24,199
Speaker 1: says at school. She's like, He's like, what about you?

215
00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:25,959
Speaker 1: And she's like, I haven't made up my mind yet.

216
00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:29,280
Speaker 1: And then she decides to not go to school in

217
00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:31,280
Speaker 1: Cali and go to the same college and he's going

218
00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:40,199
Speaker 1: to girl probably doesn't age well does not. It's not feminist,

219
00:12:40,679 --> 00:12:44,280
Speaker 1: it's not sane, but it's Carrie Russell. She has curly hair.

220
00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:47,559
Speaker 1: You're like, I'm into it. I get it. And then

221
00:12:47,640 --> 00:12:51,280
Speaker 1: it just becomes like this great love triangle between her

222
00:12:51,720 --> 00:12:56,040
Speaker 1: Ben and nol. He's played by Scott Foley, Yeah, and

223
00:12:56,120 --> 00:12:59,400
Speaker 1: Ben Scott Speedman, and his thing is he like a

224
00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:02,559
Speaker 1: whispers always like and I'm like, bitch, speak up, I

225
00:13:02,679 --> 00:13:05,400
Speaker 1: can't deal with you. But like he's always like whispery

226
00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:08,480
Speaker 1: and like just like cute and hot and like nol

227
00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:11,480
Speaker 1: is an r a, he's by the book. Okay, So

228
00:13:11,679 --> 00:13:15,679
Speaker 1: here we are. Yes, yes, so it's like who is

229
00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:20,920
Speaker 1: Felicity going to choose so much? Yeah, and Power Rangers

230
00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:24,760
Speaker 1: in it Amy Joe Johnson. Yeah, she plays like Felicity's friend.

231
00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:28,079
Speaker 1: There's a lot's famous as of laid for her cameo

232
00:13:28,280 --> 00:13:31,280
Speaker 1: in the Power Rangers movie. She was in the Power Rangers.

233
00:13:32,760 --> 00:13:35,520
Speaker 1: Kimberly Pink Power Ranger and Tommy Green Ranger are in

234
00:13:35,640 --> 00:13:38,640
Speaker 1: the last last last moments of the movie. They just

235
00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:42,960
Speaker 1: literally non speaking cameo for two seconds. They just look

236
00:13:43,080 --> 00:13:47,439
Speaker 1: up at like the destruction and they're like it's it

237
00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:49,400
Speaker 1: is a blink and you miss that. They couldn't even

238
00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:52,120
Speaker 1: give them a lot. Oh my god, that's amazing, but

239
00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:56,840
Speaker 1: they get a day rate or something and they were

240
00:13:56,880 --> 00:14:04,880
Speaker 1: tech a veil the year. Okay, So I have a question. Yea,

241
00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:08,360
Speaker 1: the show actually die when she cut her hair. Okay,

242
00:14:08,440 --> 00:14:12,199
Speaker 1: so everyone, okay, So backstory is between season one is

243
00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:16,000
Speaker 1: season two, her character cut her hair I don't want

244
00:14:16,040 --> 00:14:18,000
Speaker 1: to spoil anything, but her character cuts her hair for

245
00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:23,760
Speaker 1: a particular reason, right, and so boys and so um,

246
00:14:24,640 --> 00:14:30,160
Speaker 1: So what happened is Felicity switched time slots between season

247
00:14:30,240 --> 00:14:32,800
Speaker 1: one is season two. They went to like a shittier

248
00:14:32,920 --> 00:14:35,640
Speaker 1: time slot. And everyone's like, oh, it's because Felicity her hair,

249
00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:37,680
Speaker 1: and I was like, no, it's because w B was

250
00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:41,040
Speaker 1: like in shambles. I didn't know what they were doing,

251
00:14:41,320 --> 00:14:44,160
Speaker 1: and like a lot of like kind of teeny sort

252
00:14:44,200 --> 00:14:47,440
Speaker 1: of college stuff kind of like got screwed up. Not

253
00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:50,480
Speaker 1: not a correlation. So it's like the basic thing to

254
00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:53,480
Speaker 1: say is she cut her hair, and then right, all right,

255
00:14:53,680 --> 00:14:58,720
Speaker 1: yeah season one, I mean it's like the best. It's

256
00:14:58,840 --> 00:15:01,160
Speaker 1: really really good. Like she went in Golden Globe. Yeah.

257
00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:03,160
Speaker 1: I think she got nominate for an Emmy too, maybe

258
00:15:03,280 --> 00:15:05,640
Speaker 1: or maybe I'm wrong. She was incredible in it, and

259
00:15:05,760 --> 00:15:09,120
Speaker 1: she continues to be incredible on the Americans. So I

260
00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:12,640
Speaker 1: hear again, don't watch this one. It's really good, is it? Okay?

261
00:15:13,280 --> 00:15:14,760
Speaker 1: I hear it's one of those ones that gets better.

262
00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:17,160
Speaker 1: It's really good. I feel like she's one of those

263
00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:18,960
Speaker 1: people for me at least, who I'm just like never

264
00:15:19,480 --> 00:15:21,840
Speaker 1: like clocked her always like new knew about her and

265
00:15:21,880 --> 00:15:26,240
Speaker 1: knew that she was great, but haven't had the firsthand experience. Yeah,

266
00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:28,240
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think what I've seen her in and

267
00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:31,880
Speaker 1: think like I thought, like, yes, waitress, she was waitress.

268
00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:36,760
Speaker 1: Yeah she was good in that, but like, for some reason,

269
00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:38,800
Speaker 1: I just don't remember that movie. Yeah, it's one of

270
00:15:38,880 --> 00:15:40,640
Speaker 1: she's one of those actresses that you know is out

271
00:15:40,680 --> 00:15:43,760
Speaker 1: there doing good work. But you you were, and you

272
00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:45,360
Speaker 1: know who that was for me for a long time,

273
00:15:45,400 --> 00:15:48,840
Speaker 1: clear Danes, I get that. Yeah, it's like a kind

274
00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:52,480
Speaker 1: of like general they have a face, you know, you're like,

275
00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:55,160
Speaker 1: all right, cool. We know she was in the Romeo

276
00:15:55,280 --> 00:15:57,920
Speaker 1: and Juliette movie. Did we put ourselves through it? As

277
00:15:57,920 --> 00:16:01,560
Speaker 1: another question? It was so bad? Yeah, it was terrible,

278
00:16:01,800 --> 00:16:05,800
Speaker 1: but now it's gagara. But people will say that Romeo

279
00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:10,480
Speaker 1: and Juliet is Boss's best movie. Those people, Yeah, that's insane.

280
00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:13,400
Speaker 1: This is just like now like a litmus test for

281
00:16:13,520 --> 00:16:17,520
Speaker 1: everybody on her podcast. What are your thoughts one? If

282
00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:21,720
Speaker 1: you have any, it's okay, it's okay. I was like,

283
00:16:23,080 --> 00:16:26,720
Speaker 1: I was like, Nicole, what are you doing? She was

284
00:16:26,840 --> 00:16:31,920
Speaker 1: so extra wow? But but you didn't think that it

285
00:16:32,120 --> 00:16:33,920
Speaker 1: matched what was going on. I thought she was so

286
00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:37,040
Speaker 1: extra in the best way. It was like I was like, boss,

287
00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:40,440
Speaker 1: I can't with you. I've tried so many times and

288
00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:43,800
Speaker 1: so like everything is just like a d and percent,

289
00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:46,760
Speaker 1: which I'm like, I appreciate the effort, but like it's

290
00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:49,280
Speaker 1: just like in your face and your face and your face.

291
00:16:49,440 --> 00:16:51,360
Speaker 1: And I was like, you McGregor, I'm like, can you

292
00:16:51,520 --> 00:16:54,840
Speaker 1: just get a job, Like you're like in your house

293
00:16:54,880 --> 00:16:59,360
Speaker 1: all the time writing these Yeah, and it's like you're hot,

294
00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:05,040
Speaker 1: Like can like do something Parisian model. Yeah, I'm just

295
00:17:05,280 --> 00:17:07,920
Speaker 1: realizing now how manic Pixie dream Girl that movie. Yeah,

296
00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:13,320
Speaker 1: she's like when everyone someone whenever someone coughs in a

297
00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:16,760
Speaker 1: movie and they're like, yeah, it's like I can't. She

298
00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:24,639
Speaker 1: was weakly up that right, just like as when the

299
00:17:24,760 --> 00:17:26,119
Speaker 1: point of the movie is to be that like a

300
00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:29,480
Speaker 1: blown out romantic sized thing, like I let it happen. Sure,

301
00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:34,359
Speaker 1: and now we forgive Nicole. But here I will say this.

302
00:17:34,680 --> 00:17:39,159
Speaker 1: I was never into Nicole big little lies And I

303
00:17:39,400 --> 00:17:41,760
Speaker 1: was like, Okay, give her the Emmy, give her the Oscar.

304
00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:44,840
Speaker 1: It's not a movie, but give it to her. Give

305
00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:48,000
Speaker 1: her a Webby, whatever you got, whatever, you need to

306
00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:51,919
Speaker 1: give her a paper plate Awards. If Nicole doesn't, Nicolet

307
00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:54,720
Speaker 1: doesn't walk away with a fucking webby this year, then

308
00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:58,440
Speaker 1: the industry is we talk about this a lot, and

309
00:17:58,560 --> 00:18:00,360
Speaker 1: we can continue to talk about this, and it will

310
00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:02,439
Speaker 1: be the Emmys for some time. But I always say,

311
00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:04,200
Speaker 1: if I had a ballot in my hand, I'm checking

312
00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:07,240
Speaker 1: Reese with this, Okay, Matts. Matt's defense is that, Okay,

313
00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:10,080
Speaker 1: I need to hear this, because that is that's controversial.

314
00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:13,720
Speaker 1: First of all, for sure, I would say that here's

315
00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:16,600
Speaker 1: the deal. We fell in love with big Little Lies

316
00:18:16,840 --> 00:18:19,720
Speaker 1: because of because of her limping. In the first episode,

317
00:18:20,840 --> 00:18:24,880
Speaker 1: she could get she could at my firstborn for that, Yeah,

318
00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:28,360
Speaker 1: that was really good for that. Also, all the line

319
00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:31,119
Speaker 1: readings throughout, like you, if you can sell a one liner,

320
00:18:31,880 --> 00:18:36,480
Speaker 1: you are my god. So for example, my biggest comedic

321
00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:43,200
Speaker 1: influence Eva Longoria, because the woman could kill you with

322
00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:47,200
Speaker 1: a comedic one line. Now, to be serious for a second,

323
00:18:47,560 --> 00:18:50,280
Speaker 1: the work that she did throughout the show I felt

324
00:18:50,320 --> 00:18:54,720
Speaker 1: was more versatile. But I'm not saying that if Nicole

325
00:18:54,800 --> 00:18:56,800
Speaker 1: won the Emmy, I would I've said on this podcast,

326
00:18:56,800 --> 00:18:58,400
Speaker 1: I would lead to my feet. You know, I thought

327
00:18:58,440 --> 00:19:01,280
Speaker 1: about this. The more think about this, the more I

328
00:19:01,320 --> 00:19:04,800
Speaker 1: feel like Nicole, with that role and with that character

329
00:19:05,119 --> 00:19:08,719
Speaker 1: and with that arc, probably had to really put herself

330
00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:12,360
Speaker 1: in a shitty It was dangerous. Yeah, have you read

331
00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:15,520
Speaker 1: the book. I have not, but I heard it's great.

332
00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:20,600
Speaker 1: I was just telling Bowen the abuse in the book

333
00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:23,400
Speaker 1: towards the end. I'm actually happy that they didn't depict

334
00:19:23,480 --> 00:19:26,040
Speaker 1: it on television because what happens in the book is

335
00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:31,000
Speaker 1: the last straw for her is he takes her head

336
00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:34,600
Speaker 1: and slams it against a wall and it is so

337
00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:39,120
Speaker 1: painful and I think I was in the airport reading

338
00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:41,640
Speaker 1: it and I literally had to put it down because

339
00:19:41,680 --> 00:19:45,240
Speaker 1: I was gasping. And so then you watch the show

340
00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:48,840
Speaker 1: and it's just like, can you like to embody like

341
00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:50,800
Speaker 1: and this is of course it happens all the time,

342
00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:54,159
Speaker 1: like and which is tragic and devastating, but like she

343
00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:56,440
Speaker 1: put herself in that place, and like, really, I'm so

344
00:19:56,560 --> 00:19:58,960
Speaker 1: happy the show is out there because people can I

345
00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:02,159
Speaker 1: guess maybe more people will start talking about this and

346
00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:05,240
Speaker 1: just like really starting to like empathize with what goes

347
00:20:05,359 --> 00:20:08,480
Speaker 1: on out there in the world because it was thick

348
00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:11,960
Speaker 1: and I'm happy it went I'm like really happy. We

349
00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:16,480
Speaker 1: got to see like what it really I guess what

350
00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:19,159
Speaker 1: it feels like to be that those therapy scenes, the

351
00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:23,800
Speaker 1: amount of justification, the amount of justification she was doing,

352
00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:27,000
Speaker 1: It's like, Wow, this is what it's like to really

353
00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:29,879
Speaker 1: fight for something that's bad for you. And also I

354
00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:32,360
Speaker 1: have to give a shout out to Alexander's scar scar.

355
00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:35,000
Speaker 1: I was like, he's a good actor. You see his

356
00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:38,040
Speaker 1: penis and true blows, You're like cool, like love it.

357
00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:41,480
Speaker 1: But then to see him do this and provide that

358
00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:44,639
Speaker 1: layer of complexity, because I think the easy way I

359
00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:47,240
Speaker 1: would have been like he's just a monster, but it

360
00:20:47,359 --> 00:20:49,800
Speaker 1: was like he knew he was broken and he knew

361
00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:51,680
Speaker 1: he was damaged, and you could see him like be

362
00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:55,520
Speaker 1: evil one minute and super loving the next minute, and

363
00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:58,040
Speaker 1: then like I just really think they displayed like what

364
00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:01,040
Speaker 1: abuse is really like, and I think that's important for

365
00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:03,600
Speaker 1: people to see that. And I was really impressed by

366
00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:07,720
Speaker 1: what he did about That's a character I'm a fan

367
00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:11,320
Speaker 1: for a like career gamble and a risk for him, yes,

368
00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:14,040
Speaker 1: because not everyone out there is going to be intelligent

369
00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:15,960
Speaker 1: enough to be like he's playing a part. He happens

370
00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:17,720
Speaker 1: to be playing it really well. Especially when you do

371
00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:20,280
Speaker 1: it so convincingly, it's like you're just gonna be scary

372
00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:22,560
Speaker 1: to people, just like the way he would like walk

373
00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:25,280
Speaker 1: like a predator. Sometimes it was just like so it

374
00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:27,760
Speaker 1: was like a masterclass of acting. Like the actually just

375
00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:30,880
Speaker 1: went like best mini series or whatever. I just don't

376
00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:33,080
Speaker 1: know what's going to be better than that this year. Also,

377
00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:36,280
Speaker 1: like what amazing casting whoever put it to put it together,

378
00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:40,320
Speaker 1: like to cast like to like super sexually charged actors

379
00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:43,800
Speaker 1: like that, Like because when you saw the sex scenes

380
00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:48,080
Speaker 1: and like in the early episodes, you almost were like, fuck,

381
00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:51,479
Speaker 1: like you do have something. It was like when they

382
00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:53,840
Speaker 1: were like you know, skype sex, I was like this

383
00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:58,720
Speaker 1: is cool. And then I was like, oh, but successful

384
00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:01,920
Speaker 1: in that way because you cat yourself almost you catch

385
00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:05,680
Speaker 1: yourself forgiving. Yeah, You're like, oh, Perry, and then you're

386
00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:09,560
Speaker 1: like nope, close up shop. Oh my god. Yeah. But

387
00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:14,639
Speaker 1: I mean I just want to segue into this and

388
00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:16,960
Speaker 1: I really want to just talk to you about this

389
00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:18,680
Speaker 1: because I don't remember if it was on a Two

390
00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:20,520
Speaker 1: Queens episode, if it was in the book, But like

391
00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:23,760
Speaker 1: at length you talked about is He and Denny having

392
00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:28,159
Speaker 1: ghosts and then and about how you kept watching Grays

393
00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:31,840
Speaker 1: and because we were watched it well through season seven

394
00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:38,440
Speaker 1: like past like the plane crash was when I was like, yeah, okay,

395
00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:40,640
Speaker 1: what was like, like when did you hang your hat

396
00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:45,800
Speaker 1: with Grays? I think it was time of Death. It

397
00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:49,879
Speaker 1: was Issy and George once. I think when he got killed.

398
00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:55,560
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm out. I was sick when he died.

399
00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:58,320
Speaker 1: Season five, yeah, at peace Out, and I was like,

400
00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:00,920
Speaker 1: I love Ashonda, but I'm like life fish short, like

401
00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:03,800
Speaker 1: I haven't read Moby Dick, like you know what I mean,

402
00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:06,240
Speaker 1: Like I need to get it together. I just can't

403
00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:09,000
Speaker 1: anymore totally. Yeah, you know, she gave up on it too,

404
00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:11,800
Speaker 1: but I heard it's good again, like they went really

405
00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:14,280
Speaker 1: shitty period now supposed to be really good again. And

406
00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:16,280
Speaker 1: I'm like, I can't. I can't live life like this,

407
00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:19,199
Speaker 1: you know. I just I would tune back in now

408
00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:22,240
Speaker 1: and I would just be sad because I don't know

409
00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:28,040
Speaker 1: how you feel. But season one, two, three, that was incredible,

410
00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:32,080
Speaker 1: so good, so good. It still holds up. Yeah, absolutely,

411
00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:34,800
Speaker 1: yeah I did. I went home a few weeks ago

412
00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:37,080
Speaker 1: to my parents and they just have this giant home theater.

413
00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:41,359
Speaker 1: Sorry sorry, sorry, But then but then I just watched

414
00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:44,840
Speaker 1: the episode where Christina at Sandra's last episode, and I fully,

415
00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:48,840
Speaker 1: I haven't seen that. I watched it, like there are

416
00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:51,399
Speaker 1: there are certain moments that are like peppered throughout the

417
00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:54,439
Speaker 1: later seasons that are like, actually, I had a lot

418
00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:57,320
Speaker 1: of thought, and I'm sure Shanda, yeah, it's always going

419
00:23:57,359 --> 00:23:59,359
Speaker 1: to write a good model, like you know, there's a

420
00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:01,879
Speaker 1: she's always going to have a team, have someone on

421
00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:04,680
Speaker 1: the team that can turn out a good scene. It's

422
00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:10,480
Speaker 1: just you know, I mean, and she better have come

423
00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:13,879
Speaker 1: through for Sandro's last episode. Yeah, you can't play her.

424
00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:15,639
Speaker 1: I actually came out of the woodwork and watched that

425
00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:17,240
Speaker 1: one as a stand alone because I was like, I

426
00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:21,000
Speaker 1: have respect for Sandro, and I know that it's fine

427
00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:23,040
Speaker 1: if it's totally fine to just peak your head and

428
00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:25,440
Speaker 1: watch that episode. You still get it. It just it's

429
00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:27,639
Speaker 1: I felt like this was such a big part of

430
00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:29,840
Speaker 1: my life for like three years, like Graze, and I

431
00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:32,359
Speaker 1: still continue to watch it all through you know, her

432
00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:34,480
Speaker 1: storylines with Owen and everything. I was like, I'm going

433
00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:38,439
Speaker 1: to see this character through. Yeah, happy, totally, total, totally,

434
00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:41,600
Speaker 1: but I mean, yeah, Sandro emmy lest for that part.

435
00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:45,239
Speaker 1: She never won. You want a golden Globe. She never

436
00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:47,600
Speaker 1: won an Emmy, which I think, how is that possible?

437
00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:52,600
Speaker 1: Took one, Yeah, and then she shot on the writers

438
00:24:52,640 --> 00:25:00,240
Speaker 1: the next the next year. I see there's I I

439
00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:02,960
Speaker 1: was so on board when she came out so hard

440
00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:06,760
Speaker 1: against Isaiah Isaiah Washington for him using the F word

441
00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:09,080
Speaker 1: against her night and when she was like I will

442
00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:11,800
Speaker 1: go to bad for him always like this is like

443
00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:15,480
Speaker 1: a brother to me, whatever, and then hard to get

444
00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:18,040
Speaker 1: on her side after like just being so disc Yeah,

445
00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:21,000
Speaker 1: you can't like take like it was Gray's and the Enemy,

446
00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:23,000
Speaker 1: it was knocked Up. It's like you can't take these

447
00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:25,840
Speaker 1: jobs and then trash the people who created the work

448
00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:29,560
Speaker 1: for you, like appreciate like knocked Up. It's like what

449
00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:32,480
Speaker 1: got her the paycheck that she got on movies going forward.

450
00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:35,280
Speaker 1: So like I do agree that, like the female characters

451
00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:37,159
Speaker 1: aren't as well drawn in that movie, but it's like,

452
00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:39,200
Speaker 1: girl that like kind of changed your career in a

453
00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:41,920
Speaker 1: lot of ways, Like it should be more appreciative. I

454
00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:46,800
Speaker 1: just can't. I will say I am down for her.

455
00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:51,560
Speaker 1: Whatever attempt at a career revival, she's she's going for it.

456
00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:55,280
Speaker 1: I mean it has not gone it has not gone well.

457
00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:58,000
Speaker 1: But like there is like this weird like like the

458
00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:04,800
Speaker 1: cat Yeah, literally commercial commercial. But then she's got that

459
00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:06,560
Speaker 1: going on, and she also has that new movie with

460
00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:11,959
Speaker 1: Rosario Dawson. That's true. But here's the thing, absolutely Obsessed too.

461
00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:15,320
Speaker 1: But what were you gonna say? I almost just said,

462
00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:17,399
Speaker 1: like I wonder if it'll be better than Obsessed, and

463
00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:22,240
Speaker 1: I was like, what am I don't think beyond sandelier

464
00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:26,040
Speaker 1: on Ali Larder will never be That's pretty legend until

465
00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:27,600
Speaker 1: the last fifteen minutes. Yeah, and then you're like, oh,

466
00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:30,560
Speaker 1: I'm into this. You sent that last fifteen minutes the

467
00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:33,639
Speaker 1: Sundance Film Festival. It was, but it went the audience large.

468
00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:43,840
Speaker 1: Send it to can every grand jury. She dropped a shandelier. Yeah.

469
00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:47,480
Speaker 1: Why she was married to elbow right, Yes, it was

470
00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:51,399
Speaker 1: so inferious, how like how dumb he was. It was like, Agris,

471
00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:53,560
Speaker 1: I need you to get it together. But some of

472
00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:59,399
Speaker 1: those some of that dialogue epically bad, Idris, where should

473
00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:08,400
Speaker 1: I go? Then to tell? But until also Christine Lottie,

474
00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:14,360
Speaker 1: she plays the police officer. That's right, dumbest police officer

475
00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:19,120
Speaker 1: you've ever seen. Everyone go back and watch Obsessed. Christine

476
00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:24,040
Speaker 1: Lottie as like the detective or whatever. Is so epically dumb,

477
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:27,000
Speaker 1: and she does and she is operating at s because

478
00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:30,800
Speaker 1: even she, in her line rings is judging herself. Yeah. Look,

479
00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:32,600
Speaker 1: I don't care if you're suing this girl or not.

480
00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:38,760
Speaker 1: I was just it's just like so so so bad.

481
00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:42,120
Speaker 1: Speaking of like, okay, this movie is like not actually bad.

482
00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:45,120
Speaker 1: It's just like low key ignorant, but like, hi key amazing.

483
00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:48,720
Speaker 1: Have you guys seen the movie Unfaithful? I just rewatched

484
00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:50,639
Speaker 1: it recently with a girlfriend who had never seen it,

485
00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:53,879
Speaker 1: and it literally changed your life. The thing about Unfaithful,

486
00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:58,680
Speaker 1: she's giving everything. Diane Lane is like fucking killing it.

487
00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:03,200
Speaker 1: But it's still yet bad. It's so bad. There's so

488
00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:06,560
Speaker 1: many problems with it and how and where she got

489
00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:09,760
Speaker 1: an Oscar nomination for them, which should have gotten one too,

490
00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:13,159
Speaker 1: because he was like incredible. Yeah, yeah, he brought layers

491
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:14,840
Speaker 1: to that character that could have been just like all

492
00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:17,760
Speaker 1: right dumpy like frumpy guy. That's a wild thing for me.

493
00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:22,280
Speaker 1: Bad movies with amazing performances. Yeah, that's do you have

494
00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:25,159
Speaker 1: one of those? Oh god, I'm having that's pretty specific.

495
00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:29,920
Speaker 1: Unfaithful is a really good Yeah, it's like, yeah, she's

496
00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:35,800
Speaker 1: always like cooking spaghetti, like it's so bad it takes

497
00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:40,240
Speaker 1: her three hours. I'm like, it's spaghetti. Did you mess

498
00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:42,960
Speaker 1: up the first one? Like, my god, are you trying

499
00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:46,720
Speaker 1: to like just do some cool noodles? Like grow them out?

500
00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:50,880
Speaker 1: That's so funny. What's what's a bad movie with amazing performances?

501
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:56,160
Speaker 1: So girls, just kidding, But she was incredible. Yeah, she

502
00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:58,480
Speaker 1: could have gotten like a people's choice. Now I would

503
00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:00,880
Speaker 1: have been fine with that for sure. I mean also

504
00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:03,520
Speaker 1: you got like she know me? Malone? Is that? No? No? No,

505
00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:06,840
Speaker 1: Nina was the other one, the one who's like the

506
00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:11,320
Speaker 1: seasoned one. Yeah. Yeah. For some reason, this movie keeps

507
00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:13,680
Speaker 1: bing bing binging in my head. It is not it

508
00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:17,200
Speaker 1: is a bad movie, and it doesn't have amazing performances.

509
00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:21,200
Speaker 1: But I keep wanting to say burlesque. But also that

510
00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:24,400
Speaker 1: is fun to watch. It is fun Kristin Stewarts and

511
00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:29,360
Speaker 1: that she's like she is so sorry. Chris Stewarts and

512
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:34,040
Speaker 1: Christi Steuart could never have that much fun. No, I'm

513
00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:36,800
Speaker 1: terrible with those names. Oh my god. Yeah I haven't

514
00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:39,400
Speaker 1: seen that. Oh you should. You should watch it. It's

515
00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:43,160
Speaker 1: like dumb, funky. Yeah, it's like a period movie, like

516
00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:44,960
Speaker 1: even if you don't have your period, just like whatever

517
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:47,880
Speaker 1: you're feeling, Crommy, watch right. It's a good one to

518
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:49,920
Speaker 1: lay around to next time you have a Scientis affection.

519
00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:54,200
Speaker 1: Oh my god, Phoebe, I want to ask you about

520
00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:57,480
Speaker 1: just to go back to Oprah for a second. I

521
00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:01,360
Speaker 1: think I heard somewhere that you got a call after

522
00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:06,840
Speaker 1: the book came out. Can we talk about Yeah we can't. Yeah,

523
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:12,880
Speaker 1: I have the voicemail on my after Yes. Okay, So

524
00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:15,840
Speaker 1: I'll tell you this story. So when I was writing

525
00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:17,800
Speaker 1: the book, I was always like we should like get

526
00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:19,600
Speaker 1: it to Oprah. But I was like I was like

527
00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:22,000
Speaker 1: l O L like none of us know her people.

528
00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:25,440
Speaker 1: And so the book came out and then two days later,

529
00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:28,640
Speaker 1: my little agent called me and he was like, so

530
00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:32,040
Speaker 1: you have to tell you something. He's like, um, so

531
00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:35,880
Speaker 1: Oprah has your book and I was like what. I

532
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:38,040
Speaker 1: was like, how does she get it? I'm like, I mean,

533
00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:40,160
Speaker 1: she's Oprah, she can get whatever she wants. I was like,

534
00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:42,160
Speaker 1: how does she getting Like? I don't know, But her

535
00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:45,840
Speaker 1: team called and said that she loves the book and

536
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:49,000
Speaker 1: she wants to talk to you, and I was like

537
00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:52,520
Speaker 1: what And he's like, she's really unpredictable, so she's just

538
00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:54,840
Speaker 1: gonna like call you whenever. And I'm like, that's just

539
00:30:54,960 --> 00:31:00,880
Speaker 1: like what a phone call is, but like yes, it's

540
00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:05,360
Speaker 1: like that's not she's going to get on the phone ring.

541
00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:07,760
Speaker 1: We don't know what's going to happen next, we don't

542
00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:12,160
Speaker 1: know what she'll say, and so I was like okay,

543
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:15,120
Speaker 1: So like so beyond beyond lookout for a phone call

544
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:17,120
Speaker 1: from her. And I was like in the middle traveling,

545
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:20,640
Speaker 1: and so the next day I didn't hear from her.

546
00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:22,920
Speaker 1: My agents like I can't believe she didn't call him,

547
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:26,360
Speaker 1: Like she's literally saving Africa right now, It's totally fine.

548
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:28,720
Speaker 1: I was like, but I did miss this like phone

549
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:31,440
Speaker 1: call randomly, so I'm like random numbers. So he checked

550
00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:34,040
Speaker 1: and it was her trying to reach me. So he

551
00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:36,600
Speaker 1: was like, just tomorrow, just like be I'll look out

552
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:38,400
Speaker 1: for it. I was like okay, So I was. The

553
00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:41,480
Speaker 1: next day, I was like in a meeting and my

554
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:44,280
Speaker 1: phone was going off and I was like, I think

555
00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:47,560
Speaker 1: this is her, but you can't interrupt a meeting. So

556
00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:51,320
Speaker 1: I was just like, oh, well, um, she'll call back.

557
00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:59,880
Speaker 1: I just have to take back when you just expect

558
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:03,760
Speaker 1: implicitly that Oprah will call you back, literal number one

559
00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:08,800
Speaker 1: pop culture icon literally of all time show call back

560
00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:13,880
Speaker 1: you know what. I am obsessed screen this one. Yes,

561
00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:16,320
Speaker 1: So I told my little agent, who's like, yeah, it's

562
00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:18,720
Speaker 1: definitely her, and I was like, ah, I know. And

563
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:21,040
Speaker 1: so then the next day I got a phone call,

564
00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:23,320
Speaker 1: but I was like, I couldn't tell the number. I

565
00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:25,720
Speaker 1: was like, this could either be her or it could

566
00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:28,840
Speaker 1: be like my stute loans because loans. So I was like,

567
00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:31,240
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna risk it, not pick it up. And

568
00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:34,040
Speaker 1: if I get a voicemail, fine, did you get a voicemail?

569
00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:35,479
Speaker 1: And I was like, I might have sucked that up.

570
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:40,160
Speaker 1: Literally the person harder to get in touch with the

571
00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:45,680
Speaker 1: Oprah is Phoebe Robinson. And so the next day I

572
00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 1: was on set for this Amazon show him on I

573
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:51,360
Speaker 1: loved Dick, and I never bring my phone with me

574
00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:53,920
Speaker 1: on a sex I want to be like present, second

575
00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:58,360
Speaker 1: actor's choice to be present. And I wrapped my scene, um,

576
00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:00,320
Speaker 1: and so then I saw my phone and I was like,

577
00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:03,200
Speaker 1: I have a few miscalls and have a voicemail. And

578
00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:05,480
Speaker 1: I was like, and I go, I'm not gonna listen

579
00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:07,760
Speaker 1: to voicemails. Probably my parents. I always use like a

580
00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:11,160
Speaker 1: long voicemails so I just called back the first numbers,

581
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:15,920
Speaker 1: like an eight one eight number, and a person answers

582
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:17,680
Speaker 1: like hello, and I was like, hey, yeah, I just

583
00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:19,680
Speaker 1: got a phone call from this number, but I don't

584
00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:21,840
Speaker 1: know who this is. And he was like what and

585
00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:26,120
Speaker 1: I was like, uh, okay, I'm gonna go by. So

586
00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:29,480
Speaker 1: I like called her house. It was like her mistake, guy,

587
00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:38,760
Speaker 1: what if I talked to Stemane? Yeah, not out of

588
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:42,560
Speaker 1: the question. And so I was like, that was not

589
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:44,720
Speaker 1: a good first impression. Let me just listen to this

590
00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:49,600
Speaker 1: voicemail in case it's not my parents. It was Oprah. Yeah.

591
00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:52,440
Speaker 1: She was like oh no. So first before I get

592
00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:54,640
Speaker 1: to that, I hang up the phone, I get a

593
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:58,920
Speaker 1: text message It's like, Phoebe, it's Oprah dot dot dot

594
00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:03,240
Speaker 1: call me. And I was like, so then I listened

595
00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:06,000
Speaker 1: to the voicemail and she was like, Hi, Phoebe, it's

596
00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:08,359
Speaker 1: Oprah as in winfree, and I was like, oh my god,

597
00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:15,040
Speaker 1: as so humble, so humble. She was just like really sweet.

598
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:16,440
Speaker 1: She was like I've been trying to get in touch

599
00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:19,520
Speaker 1: with you. But then I realized my number is blocked

600
00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:21,719
Speaker 1: and you probably don't like answer block call, so I

601
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:25,279
Speaker 1: like unblocked my call. So here's this number. I'm gonna

602
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:30,120
Speaker 1: try and call you back on my cell number, which

603
00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:32,040
Speaker 1: is and she's like, oh, you know what, I don't

604
00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:35,120
Speaker 1: know my cell number. I'll figure that out. I know.

605
00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:36,800
Speaker 1: She we you're that rich. You don't need to know

606
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:42,640
Speaker 1: that in her mission, you know, people numbers, and so

607
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:45,120
Speaker 1: she was like looking forward to talking to you soon.

608
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:47,239
Speaker 1: So I called her back and I was just like hi,

609
00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:51,200
Speaker 1: Albred's Phoebe, and she was just so sweet and complimentary.

610
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:53,279
Speaker 1: It was like I really enjoyed the book and like

611
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:56,560
Speaker 1: it spoke to me and I was just like Oprah

612
00:34:57,200 --> 00:35:00,399
Speaker 1: and it was just like really nice, just like chat

613
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:04,000
Speaker 1: with her. Now, here's the knowledge that Oprah has read

614
00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:10,640
Speaker 1: your innermost thoughts and like your feelings and thoughts about

615
00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:15,600
Speaker 1: the world, and that is huge. It's crazy. I still

616
00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:18,279
Speaker 1: can't believe it because when you're writing the book, you're

617
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:21,160
Speaker 1: thinking that. First of all, you're probably thinking this is

618
00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:24,080
Speaker 1: fun for me to write and like people will enjoy it.

619
00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:27,000
Speaker 1: And then you're like, hold on, wait, that means anyone

620
00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:31,080
Speaker 1: can read this, and anyone includes fucking over. Yeah. So

621
00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:33,399
Speaker 1: it's just like a really like oh, it's like cool

622
00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:36,680
Speaker 1: to meet your heroes because they can be really amazing

623
00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:41,400
Speaker 1: and lovely. Oh my god, I mean, I just I

624
00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:43,520
Speaker 1: just want to set I mean, first of all, that's amazing,

625
00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:47,200
Speaker 1: But with Oprah, it's like one day, like a few

626
00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:52,520
Speaker 1: months ago, I posted her final episode and multiple people

627
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:55,560
Speaker 1: were like, I just clicked on it and just thought

628
00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:56,960
Speaker 1: I was only going to watch a snippet of it.

629
00:35:57,040 --> 00:36:00,239
Speaker 1: But then she just sucks you in and you just

630
00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:03,640
Speaker 1: watched the whole freaking thing, which is like forty two

631
00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:06,680
Speaker 1: minutes long. She's brilliant and it's the most beautiful thing,

632
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:09,400
Speaker 1: where the entire thing is like this isn't this. This

633
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:11,080
Speaker 1: has never been about me. It's always been about you,

634
00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:15,640
Speaker 1: and it's just the thing she says. So I mean, yeah, God,

635
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:18,239
Speaker 1: Oprah read your book and loved it and decided to

636
00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:21,680
Speaker 1: call you an unblock her number. It's crazy that So

637
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:24,960
Speaker 1: I still have the voicemail on my That's that's like

638
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:28,360
Speaker 1: an heirloom. Now, Yeah, you passed that ship down. You

639
00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:30,799
Speaker 1: shouldn't make sure you put it on different devices. Yeah,

640
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:33,080
Speaker 1: I say, I sit as an email to myself and

641
00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:36,239
Speaker 1: I uploaded to the cloud. So I'm just like, there's

642
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:38,359
Speaker 1: no way I'm going to lose there you go. Yea oh,

643
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:42,759
Speaker 1: my god, that is truly incredible, incredible, and the book

644
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:46,000
Speaker 1: is amazing, it really is. It's fun. Can we talk

645
00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:50,239
Speaker 1: about one specific chapter. It's the one, it's the it's

646
00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:53,680
Speaker 1: the uppitty one. This was and and let me tell you,

647
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:57,399
Speaker 1: I didn't know this and god, admit that I didn't

648
00:36:57,480 --> 00:37:00,719
Speaker 1: know the full origins of that word either. And then

649
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:03,400
Speaker 1: you tie that tie the meaning of that word with

650
00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:06,440
Speaker 1: this horrible experience you had on this show. Um that

651
00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:09,080
Speaker 1: is that will not be named and is strategically not

652
00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:11,440
Speaker 1: named in the book, but horrible thing where like the

653
00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:14,879
Speaker 1: judges like are like this hedgehot sucks, but you look

654
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:19,840
Speaker 1: great now. There were so many people, of course, and

655
00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:21,799
Speaker 1: it's like what they do on reality as we talk

656
00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:23,400
Speaker 1: all the time about how we have friends who go

657
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:26,800
Speaker 1: on these shows and like they literally break you down.

658
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:31,320
Speaker 1: Was a dark day in history when the American Idol

659
00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:34,480
Speaker 1: became what it was, the number one show and a

660
00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:37,680
Speaker 1: little bit because I think it started not only like

661
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:41,719
Speaker 1: a um access to degrading people publicly, but also a

662
00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:46,720
Speaker 1: comment and critique culture where everyone thought because they watched

663
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:50,840
Speaker 1: professional judges quote unquote professional judges do this to people

664
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:53,000
Speaker 1: that they had the experience to then do it to

665
00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:56,600
Speaker 1: each other and to just people so many and and

666
00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:59,960
Speaker 1: of course you know it ruined people's lives. Have you, guys,

667
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:02,800
Speaker 1: has ever done like audition for reality TV stuff or

668
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:08,920
Speaker 1: now get this tomorrow I'm going to be on Who

669
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:11,120
Speaker 1: Wants to Be a Millionaire? Now this now that when

670
00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:14,480
Speaker 1: this episode, when this episode is out, you guys, this

671
00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:17,080
Speaker 1: will have been weeks ago. So I did, Okay, I

672
00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:21,719
Speaker 1: won five grand but um, but it was just like

673
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:26,160
Speaker 1: it's just it's it's just different than you think it's

674
00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:28,520
Speaker 1: gonna be. Like, of course you see you go onto

675
00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:30,399
Speaker 1: and of course this is different than a reality show.

676
00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:33,319
Speaker 1: And they didn't treat me badly, but you I got

677
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:35,680
Speaker 1: a little glimpse into what it's like to be on

678
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:39,040
Speaker 1: like a something like that. And the deck is kind

679
00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:42,759
Speaker 1: of stacked because it's such an intimidating situation. And then um,

680
00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:46,600
Speaker 1: you know you also kind of you do sign away

681
00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:49,320
Speaker 1: certain things. I mean, obviously I don't deal with anything

682
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:51,239
Speaker 1: as badly as like I have had. We've had a

683
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:52,960
Speaker 1: friend that's been on American Idol and it was a

684
00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:58,160
Speaker 1: very hard situation. We are we um know, Zeke Smith,

685
00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:01,319
Speaker 1: who was just a survivor contestant that was out at

686
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:04,279
Speaker 1: as trans. That was so upsetting to me. I was like,

687
00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:06,680
Speaker 1: because I don't watch Survibor, so I was just reading

688
00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:08,680
Speaker 1: the story online. I was like, how dare this other

689
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:12,480
Speaker 1: guy do this? And he's the guy's gay, and obviously,

690
00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:15,279
Speaker 1: like there's a lot of self hatred there and a

691
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:17,719
Speaker 1: lot of insecurity there, and I actually think he's the

692
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:20,200
Speaker 1: one we need to watch for it closely now because

693
00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:23,600
Speaker 1: he just got fired. He got fired, and also like

694
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:25,440
Speaker 1: I think I think his family and friends need to

695
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:27,160
Speaker 1: be keeping a close eye on him because I would

696
00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:29,440
Speaker 1: imagine that he is in a very dark place right now.

697
00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:32,279
Speaker 1: But but anyway, I was thinking, and I don't know

698
00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:35,640
Speaker 1: if you thought this when it all happened, but you know,

699
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:39,120
Speaker 1: they had the option to not show that, and then

700
00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:41,040
Speaker 1: I guess I would hope it was up to Zeke

701
00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:44,040
Speaker 1: to say it's okay. I actually think this could be

702
00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:48,120
Speaker 1: a healing and growing moment for you know, trans youth,

703
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:50,960
Speaker 1: you know the transgender community, and we should go ahead

704
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:53,840
Speaker 1: with this. But I wonder if that was an option,

705
00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:57,840
Speaker 1: Oh you, because they are presenting it like Zeke was

706
00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:00,360
Speaker 1: involved in the decision making, but you're maybe thinking that

707
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:03,800
Speaker 1: he wasn't. I mean, at that level where there's that

708
00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:06,759
Speaker 1: much money involved and really what matters to these people

709
00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:11,360
Speaker 1: is ratings and nothing else. And so you do wonder

710
00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:16,680
Speaker 1: like how much how collaborative that the decision to air

711
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:19,920
Speaker 1: that wasn't how much how much say was had, And

712
00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:23,440
Speaker 1: then all goes back to like just this new trend

713
00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:26,000
Speaker 1: since like an op post American idole world where like

714
00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:31,239
Speaker 1: just embarrassing people for profit was like acceptable. But to

715
00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:32,840
Speaker 1: go back to the book, I mean you so you

716
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:35,680
Speaker 1: tie that story in like pretty terrible experience in with

717
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:39,040
Speaker 1: like how black people and black women especially are like

718
00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:46,440
Speaker 1: when when when they as certain ambition, it's just immediately

719
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:49,320
Speaker 1: struck down with starting being on the mic, it's immediately

720
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:52,399
Speaker 1: struck down with like, well, no, like you're being you're

721
00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:56,320
Speaker 1: being too You're just you're reaching too high, which is ridiculous.

722
00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:58,319
Speaker 1: And then that even and I just remember this very

723
00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:00,799
Speaker 1: very very clearly, because then I think you've even talked

724
00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:04,439
Speaker 1: about like veiled language of people saying like well she's

725
00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:07,440
Speaker 1: she's so exotic, so exotic, and like and like we

726
00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:10,120
Speaker 1: deal without with like in terms of queer stuff. It's like,

727
00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:12,520
Speaker 1: well that's too niche. Like we'll go into pitching rooms

728
00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:16,000
Speaker 1: and and and that was a classic one. Our ideas

729
00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:19,400
Speaker 1: were too niche, they're too gay. Okay, that's mine. Just

730
00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:21,839
Speaker 1: say they're too gay, even though that's the shitty thing

731
00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:24,279
Speaker 1: to say. But anyway, Um, I don't know, like has

732
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:27,800
Speaker 1: that Has that gotten better? I know that's a weird question,

733
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:29,520
Speaker 1: and you had a lot of response to that, because

734
00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:31,640
Speaker 1: I'm sure a lot of people read the book. I

735
00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:35,080
Speaker 1: didn't know about the root of that language. Well, I

736
00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:39,600
Speaker 1: think what I'm most excited about now is that there

737
00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:44,480
Speaker 1: are there's more black female representation, which I think is important.

738
00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:48,239
Speaker 1: You have people like Ray and MICHAELA. Cole. We're chewting gum.

739
00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:52,360
Speaker 1: I'm like, so it's really really great and fantastic and

740
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:57,160
Speaker 1: super quirky, and MICHAELA writes all the episodes herself, and

741
00:41:57,239 --> 00:41:59,359
Speaker 1: so it's really like she starts in and so it's

742
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:02,640
Speaker 1: just having me. It's like voices who they're in control

743
00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:06,560
Speaker 1: of their vision, and they're providing another layer of the

744
00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:10,239
Speaker 1: black experiences. I think a lot of times, like you know,

745
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:12,239
Speaker 1: we just think about the black experience in terms of

746
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:14,719
Speaker 1: like black men and not really like how women black

747
00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:17,520
Speaker 1: women are affected. And so I think right now it's

748
00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:20,160
Speaker 1: really cool that there's all these different perspectives. So I'm

749
00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:23,040
Speaker 1: hoping that also happens with the queer community because I

750
00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:25,560
Speaker 1: feel like you guys, like I love you guys, and

751
00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:27,960
Speaker 1: you guys are amazing, and like you're not too gay,

752
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:30,480
Speaker 1: you're not too niche, like you should be out in

753
00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:33,400
Speaker 1: the world having your own show, you know what I mean.

754
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:39,239
Speaker 1: I mean, we're out and we're just yeah, you know,

755
00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:45,440
Speaker 1: it's so encouraging. Whenever there's like minority representation, I'm psyched.

756
00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:47,480
Speaker 1: I feel like it's a sports that for everyone. Like,

757
00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:52,800
Speaker 1: for example, I am so psyched for Francesca and I

758
00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:55,239
Speaker 1: know it's going to be a huge success and that

759
00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:58,239
Speaker 1: what like that makes me feel like a part of it,

760
00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:00,000
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And you say this because

761
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:02,439
Speaker 1: you've worked with her and you know what she does.

762
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:07,799
Speaker 1: She's so everything, and like not even because I've worked

763
00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:10,359
Speaker 1: with her specifically that I feel like being a part

764
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:12,879
Speaker 1: of it. But it's just like, wow, you know they

765
00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:16,120
Speaker 1: I'm so psyched that they went with someone who's going

766
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:18,200
Speaker 1: to bring something new and who's going to bring something

767
00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:22,759
Speaker 1: good because and and it's it's almost so stupid that

768
00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:25,759
Speaker 1: it's taken this long, because it should have been like

769
00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:28,719
Speaker 1: that from the beginning, it's like why do you think um,

770
00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:32,960
Speaker 1: like we don't trust or like all these voices like

771
00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:38,439
Speaker 1: all blend together. It's because they're all the same. Yeah,

772
00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:42,400
Speaker 1: like people upset about you know, Falon's rating slipping. It's like,

773
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:44,240
Speaker 1: I don't think it has much to do with Falon.

774
00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:45,640
Speaker 1: I think it has much. I think it has a

775
00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:49,120
Speaker 1: lot to do with people just tuning out in general. Yeah.

776
00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:51,840
Speaker 1: Obviously I don't have like data in front of me

777
00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:54,600
Speaker 1: that shows that that's true. But I I think that

778
00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:58,839
Speaker 1: we're on the precipice of seeing a lot of new

779
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:03,680
Speaker 1: cool stuff emerge, especially because everything and like the political

780
00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:08,200
Speaker 1: and international sphere is like getting so bad. Yeah, Like

781
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:09,920
Speaker 1: I was thinking the other day, someone said to me

782
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:13,600
Speaker 1: the other day, like Suti said to me, like, it's

783
00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:16,160
Speaker 1: really comforting to have to be able to watch Feud

784
00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:19,200
Speaker 1: because I feel like it's almost like the university gave

785
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:23,080
Speaker 1: us Feud because because because there's a Trump or like

786
00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:27,359
Speaker 1: RuPaul's drag Race, which is like becoming more and more mainstream,

787
00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:29,520
Speaker 1: which is like how it should be. This isn't like

788
00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:32,680
Speaker 1: this like drag World isn't like oh that's weird. It's

789
00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:35,880
Speaker 1: like no, this is a commentary on culture. This is satire,

790
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:38,440
Speaker 1: this is witty, this is smart, this is funny, this

791
00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:41,560
Speaker 1: is all these things. And like, you know, straight people,

792
00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:46,440
Speaker 1: I love my straight people, but we are slow with

793
00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:48,800
Speaker 1: a lot of stuff. It's all seeing something like that

794
00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:52,279
Speaker 1: move to VH one get the highest ratings has ever

795
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:56,279
Speaker 1: gotten and armatically be renewed for another season. I'm like, oh,

796
00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:59,320
Speaker 1: straight people are starting to slowly get it, Like you

797
00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:02,040
Speaker 1: don't need to see yourself reflecting everything to enjoy it,

798
00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:05,200
Speaker 1: which I think it's great. So true. Well, when you're

799
00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:08,000
Speaker 1: pushed to the outside of something, you're able to see

800
00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:12,760
Speaker 1: it more clearly. And so I think that that's something

801
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:15,000
Speaker 1: you're going to get with all these emerging voices and

802
00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:21,760
Speaker 1: these diverse voices, is it these clearer, different new takes. Yes, beautiful.

803
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:23,680
Speaker 1: So we thank you guys. On that note, we're gonna

804
00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:25,200
Speaker 1: take a quick break and we'll be right back with

805
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:32,960
Speaker 1: Phoebe Robinson. Okay, now listen, bitch. Today we have a

806
00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:35,800
Speaker 1: little bit of it offer for you, the listeners of

807
00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:39,840
Speaker 1: Lost Culturestas Casper is offering fifty dollars towards any mattress

808
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:43,640
Speaker 1: purchase at Casper dot com. The Casper Mattress is an

809
00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:48,120
Speaker 1: obsessively engineered mattress honey at a shockingly fair price. Now, Matt,

810
00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:50,800
Speaker 1: listen up. It's got just the right sink, just the

811
00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:54,560
Speaker 1: right bounce. It's made of two technologies Latex foam and

812
00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:58,080
Speaker 1: memory foam honey too, that come together for a life

813
00:45:58,120 --> 00:46:00,759
Speaker 1: well slept. Now listen, Matt. I to tell you I've

814
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:03,320
Speaker 1: been on the Casper website and their user experience is

815
00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:05,920
Speaker 1: to die for. Oh my god, even on the web,

816
00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:09,880
Speaker 1: the absolutely and look they've got the Casper pillow and

817
00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:12,080
Speaker 1: the Casper sheets, honey, so you can get the full

818
00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:16,000
Speaker 1: Casper bed experience. I'm trying to dive into this Casper life.

819
00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:18,200
Speaker 1: And you know what, you can dive in with fifty

820
00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:21,800
Speaker 1: dollars off on any mattress purchase. It's the most awarded

821
00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:23,680
Speaker 1: mattress of the decade. So what are you waiting for?

822
00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:26,520
Speaker 1: Go get one and to receive fifty dollars towards any

823
00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:29,680
Speaker 1: mattress purchase, go to Casper trial dot com forwards last

824
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:33,279
Speaker 1: lost cultural stas. Write this down, bitch, Casper Trial dot

825
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:36,840
Speaker 1: com forward slash lost culture restas for fifty dollars towards

826
00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:39,680
Speaker 1: any mattress purchase. You know, Bowen I can see clearly

827
00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:43,120
Speaker 1: now the rain is gone. And that's because a Wobby Parker.

828
00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:46,920
Speaker 1: Also sponsored by Wobby Parker. You guys, Wobby Parker is

829
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:50,960
Speaker 1: offering lost cultures. That's listeners. Hey, that's you a free

830
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:53,839
Speaker 1: five day home try on to give you the opportunity

831
00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:56,640
Speaker 1: to check out their glasses. So Wobby Parker makes buying

832
00:46:56,680 --> 00:47:00,160
Speaker 1: glasses online easy and risk free. Again another company that's

833
00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:01,759
Speaker 1: a nailing it on the web, come on the web,

834
00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:05,400
Speaker 1: the home try on program. Okay. It allows customers to

835
00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:07,879
Speaker 1: order five pairs of glasses to be shipped directly to them,

836
00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:10,800
Speaker 1: not to your friend, to you. Okay, you don't have

837
00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:13,520
Speaker 1: to go you don't have to go through any challenges. Okay,

838
00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:15,279
Speaker 1: you don't have to hit the cut off man here, honey.

839
00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:18,680
Speaker 1: That's for the straights at home. Like baseball, They're gonna

840
00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:20,960
Speaker 1: allow you to order five pairs of glasses to be

841
00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:23,920
Speaker 1: shifted directly to them where they can try them on

842
00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:26,120
Speaker 1: in the comfort of their own home. This is you, guys,

843
00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:27,480
Speaker 1: can try it on in your own house. You can

844
00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:30,160
Speaker 1: get feedback from your friends, family, and colleagues, and of

845
00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:34,359
Speaker 1: course enemies. We always want to stress that when your

846
00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:37,080
Speaker 1: enemies see you, when these Parkers, They're going to be like, well,

847
00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:39,360
Speaker 1: why am I even trying? Why am I trying? Users

848
00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:41,839
Speaker 1: can keep the frames for five days before sending them

849
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:45,719
Speaker 1: back for free using the prepaid returning shipping label, So

850
00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:48,520
Speaker 1: keep that with no obligation to purchase. So you get

851
00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:49,920
Speaker 1: to try these on see if you like them for

852
00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:52,920
Speaker 1: an extended period of time and you have an excuse

853
00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:55,640
Speaker 1: to visit the post office or your local UPS drop

854
00:47:55,640 --> 00:47:57,839
Speaker 1: off spot. Yes, absolutely, and it's always get to check

855
00:47:57,880 --> 00:48:00,399
Speaker 1: in with those folks. So to get your home try

856
00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:03,240
Speaker 1: on today, go to Warby Parker Trial dot com forward

857
00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:05,840
Speaker 1: slash Last culture estas I'm going to say that again.

858
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:08,080
Speaker 1: Okay for all you who might not have been listening,

859
00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:10,560
Speaker 1: for all you who took a break during this part

860
00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:13,279
Speaker 1: of the podcast, I'm getting your attention back right now.

861
00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:15,400
Speaker 1: I don't think so many people were skipping through the

862
00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:19,959
Speaker 1: mid role. Absolutely, don't you dare again, I'm saying it again,

863
00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:22,759
Speaker 1: Warby Parker Trial dot com forward slash Last Culture rest

864
00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:26,080
Speaker 1: for your free five day home try and tell your mom,

865
00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:28,200
Speaker 1: tell your dad, tell your friends, tell your aunts, tell

866
00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:30,799
Speaker 1: your aunts, tell your aunts. Okay, and now let's get

867
00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:35,800
Speaker 1: back to the show. Yes, we're back with phoe Robinson

868
00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:41,160
Speaker 1: telling her how adorable she looks. Oh my gosh. So

869
00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:43,239
Speaker 1: we were literally off air. We were just talking about

870
00:48:43,239 --> 00:48:46,320
Speaker 1: our favorite music as we've decided that Bowen and Phoebe

871
00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:48,560
Speaker 1: both left West Side Story and I love Zanna do

872
00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:55,719
Speaker 1: which is not? Which don't? Um? Phoebe. We just you

873
00:48:55,840 --> 00:48:58,960
Speaker 1: mentioned RuPaul before the break? Are you watching this season?

874
00:48:59,040 --> 00:49:04,960
Speaker 1: I'm watching to see in Okay, Charlie, what even was that? Well,

875
00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:07,759
Speaker 1: you know, I think he came on this show just

876
00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:10,560
Speaker 1: to be seen. He didn't have any attentions of going

877
00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:13,759
Speaker 1: far of winning. He just wanted the extra exposure. And

878
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:17,080
Speaker 1: I'm like, so many people kill to be on that show,

879
00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:18,879
Speaker 1: and like, how dare you be? Like, I'm not gonna

880
00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:21,759
Speaker 1: lip sync fuck you. I have a theory about it.

881
00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:26,959
Speaker 1: I think that that's just like Charlie, that's who Tally

882
00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:28,480
Speaker 1: is what, That's what all he decided to do. And

883
00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:31,400
Speaker 1: I actually have a feeling that RuPaul might know Charlie

884
00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:34,600
Speaker 1: from way back, and because one of my friends was like,

885
00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:38,239
Speaker 1: RuPaul should have told Charlie off, like Rupp should have

886
00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:41,640
Speaker 1: come for Charlie right there. But then I was like,

887
00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:45,520
Speaker 1: the thing is, though, this is like an older queen

888
00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:48,160
Speaker 1: like probably there is a lot going on around in

889
00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:51,520
Speaker 1: her mind about being on the show, and I surrounded

890
00:49:51,560 --> 00:49:54,239
Speaker 1: by all these twenty year olds, Yeah, clearly have the

891
00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:56,760
Speaker 1: leg up and like, what's Charlie gonna do a death drop?

892
00:49:57,640 --> 00:50:00,239
Speaker 1: But you know what I mean? Like, so I would

893
00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:02,400
Speaker 1: think it was appropriate that rud didn't like come for her,

894
00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:03,920
Speaker 1: just kind of let her go with her dignity. I

895
00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:06,600
Speaker 1: would have gagged for, you know, a fifty year old

896
00:50:06,760 --> 00:50:11,200
Speaker 1: queen doing a death drop to yeah hospital on some

897
00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:13,600
Speaker 1: hospital food. But you know what, And I first, at

898
00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:16,040
Speaker 1: first took issue with Charlie like in the confessional saying,

899
00:50:16,120 --> 00:50:17,799
Speaker 1: you know what I'm I'm a singing queen. I don't

900
00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:21,759
Speaker 1: lip sync, like having the staunch like identity thing. But

901
00:50:21,880 --> 00:50:24,799
Speaker 1: you know what she's she's I guess she's seasoned enough

902
00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:26,759
Speaker 1: of a drag queen to like really just say like

903
00:50:26,840 --> 00:50:29,239
Speaker 1: know what she can and can't do and just be like, yeah,

904
00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:31,319
Speaker 1: I just don't do that. So I don't begrut her

905
00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:32,880
Speaker 1: of that. But it was so late that she just

906
00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:35,520
Speaker 1: stood there. Yeah. Other thoughts, who are we loving? Who

907
00:50:35,560 --> 00:50:39,920
Speaker 1: are we loving? I like Valentine, she's really good. Um,

908
00:50:40,080 --> 00:50:45,800
Speaker 1: I like Trinity to ye I'm officially done with Eureka.

909
00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:50,480
Speaker 1: I can't, oh, thank you, because we just she's a

910
00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:53,200
Speaker 1: very talented queen and I love I love her choices

911
00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:55,799
Speaker 1: with the wardrobe because and I think in her meat

912
00:50:55,840 --> 00:50:57,200
Speaker 1: the queen, she was like, I just want to wear

913
00:50:57,520 --> 00:51:00,040
Speaker 1: what you wouldn't normally associate big girls wearing, like I know,

914
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:02,000
Speaker 1: where something that you that you say she shouldn't be

915
00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:03,759
Speaker 1: wearing that, but still pull it off. And I was like, oh,

916
00:51:03,840 --> 00:51:06,000
Speaker 1: that's cool. But the fact that she has like this

917
00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:09,600
Speaker 1: attitude problem, she's rude and she's like mean is really

918
00:51:10,080 --> 00:51:12,840
Speaker 1: it's like ginger Man's Part two. There you go, It

919
00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:16,000
Speaker 1: really is. And it's just the thing is, it's so

920
00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:19,839
Speaker 1: obviously born out of insecurity, and so I almost don't

921
00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:22,359
Speaker 1: even want I don't want to get to the point

922
00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:24,840
Speaker 1: where I have to be like fuck you, but like

923
00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:27,400
Speaker 1: it's got to the point now where it's like, god

924
00:51:27,600 --> 00:51:31,160
Speaker 1: like get it together. Also, it's not dragged to be

925
00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:36,080
Speaker 1: really mean yeah at all. Um, I don't even think

926
00:51:36,160 --> 00:51:39,600
Speaker 1: it's necessarily out of insecurity. It's just like probably just

927
00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:42,600
Speaker 1: narcissism or something where she just wants to be the

928
00:51:42,680 --> 00:51:46,840
Speaker 1: loudest voice. Um. But anyway, think about it though, like

929
00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:50,720
Speaker 1: we see Eureka as a boy, that's how she walks

930
00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:53,880
Speaker 1: the Street's like, I don't think Eureka is narcissistic. I

931
00:51:53,960 --> 00:51:56,560
Speaker 1: think Eureka is probably very insecure, you know what I mean.

932
00:51:56,640 --> 00:51:58,239
Speaker 1: And that is why I'm trying to come at it

933
00:51:58,280 --> 00:52:01,719
Speaker 1: with from like a place of like, you know, I

934
00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:04,359
Speaker 1: want her to love herself enough so she can love

935
00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:06,160
Speaker 1: everyone else. Can I get a name in? And you

936
00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:09,439
Speaker 1: know what I mean? But the thing is like it's

937
00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:12,080
Speaker 1: just it's just hard, like it's going to be a

938
00:52:12,160 --> 00:52:13,680
Speaker 1: long road I think for her to get to a

939
00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:16,480
Speaker 1: place where she's not going to be very defensive. And yeah,

940
00:52:16,600 --> 00:52:19,239
Speaker 1: and she's a good queen. She is, she is good.

941
00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:22,480
Speaker 1: So I'm like, just fix the personality, like learn from

942
00:52:22,600 --> 00:52:28,640
Speaker 1: Roxy Andrews from Beefy, Like just being nasty doesn't doesn't win,

943
00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:33,480
Speaker 1: just doesn't you know, it's not We ran into Roxy

944
00:52:33,520 --> 00:52:38,880
Speaker 1: Andrews yea, and she was really nice. In fact, my

945
00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:40,680
Speaker 1: boyfriend Henry and I were there at the Islands of

946
00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:45,399
Speaker 1: Adventure and apparently Roxy's on Orlando Queen and apparently she's

947
00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:48,400
Speaker 1: always there and Gingerman is always in the theme parks.

948
00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:52,400
Speaker 1: Because what you do is you go chill in the

949
00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:54,799
Speaker 1: theme parks because they all have season passes or whatever.

950
00:52:55,239 --> 00:52:57,800
Speaker 1: It's like the fun thing to do. So we saw

951
00:52:58,000 --> 00:53:01,560
Speaker 1: her as a boy obvious sleep and my boyfriend was like,

952
00:53:02,120 --> 00:53:04,439
Speaker 1: that's Roxy Andrews. And I was like, no way, turned

953
00:53:04,480 --> 00:53:08,760
Speaker 1: around and all I did was point and say nothing.

954
00:53:10,280 --> 00:53:13,279
Speaker 1: I was like, I was just like, I see you.

955
00:53:13,719 --> 00:53:16,080
Speaker 1: So then we obviously got out of the park and

956
00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:18,960
Speaker 1: took a breath, and then Henry goes, She's coming up

957
00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:21,239
Speaker 1: right behind you, right now, She's approaching you. She's coming

958
00:53:21,280 --> 00:53:22,480
Speaker 1: up to us right now. And I was like, I

959
00:53:22,560 --> 00:53:25,239
Speaker 1: turned around, and she fully came up and gave us

960
00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:27,960
Speaker 1: a hug, and her friends offered to take a picture

961
00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:30,160
Speaker 1: and asked us what we were doing in town and

962
00:53:30,239 --> 00:53:33,200
Speaker 1: said she was going to happen, like really engaged. And

963
00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:36,600
Speaker 1: it was so kind and it's so different from the

964
00:53:36,640 --> 00:53:40,359
Speaker 1: season five Roxy Andrews, which was truly mean, maybe even

965
00:53:40,560 --> 00:53:47,040
Speaker 1: worse than anyone's ever been. Roxy was pretty bad. She

966
00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:53,000
Speaker 1: was up there. She was bad. Yeah, it wasn't a

967
00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:55,160
Speaker 1: good situation, and no, it was. It was really And

968
00:53:55,239 --> 00:53:56,680
Speaker 1: I love drinks. Do you have a favorite queen of

969
00:53:56,719 --> 00:53:59,520
Speaker 1: all time? Well, you interviewed the last guy. Yeah, a

970
00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:04,279
Speaker 1: last it was amazing. She I think my favorites are Alaska, Latrice,

971
00:54:05,040 --> 00:54:11,720
Speaker 1: analyssa solid three. Also I really love Katiah Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, Katia,

972
00:54:13,920 --> 00:54:17,520
Speaker 1: that's my girl. But also it's just because you were lated,

973
00:54:17,560 --> 00:54:19,960
Speaker 1: and I think everybody relates in that capacity where it's

974
00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:24,880
Speaker 1: like she's paralyzed by fear and insecurity with herself. But um,

975
00:54:25,320 --> 00:54:28,759
Speaker 1: but Alaska is just like just new And the only

976
00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:31,920
Speaker 1: time that the vineer ever cracked was that like episode

977
00:54:31,920 --> 00:54:34,040
Speaker 1: in All Stars to where she just like that melt

978
00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:40,000
Speaker 1: like who hasn't had a grandmother of all meltdowns? But

979
00:54:40,719 --> 00:54:43,439
Speaker 1: um oh, I got Alaska though, Alaska is the one, yeah,

980
00:54:43,600 --> 00:54:45,120
Speaker 1: the one of it. How was I mean I listened

981
00:54:45,120 --> 00:54:46,600
Speaker 1: to the episode, but like what was it? Like, Like,

982
00:54:46,800 --> 00:54:50,520
Speaker 1: he's great. He was just really funny and chill and sweet.

983
00:54:51,160 --> 00:54:53,279
Speaker 1: It was just really really nice. And we're talking about

984
00:54:53,320 --> 00:54:55,719
Speaker 1: Lady Gaga and he was saying he met her and

985
00:54:56,320 --> 00:54:59,799
Speaker 1: it was just like really cool. Yeah, it's really great. Um,

986
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:02,000
Speaker 1: he goes to like ECB shows. He just like goes

987
00:55:02,080 --> 00:55:05,919
Speaker 1: and hangs. Yeah, He's like he likes the comedy show,

988
00:55:06,600 --> 00:55:09,040
Speaker 1: which makes me love her even more. We're going to

989
00:55:09,080 --> 00:55:10,600
Speaker 1: have a drag Queen on this show. I just know

990
00:55:10,760 --> 00:55:13,719
Speaker 1: it's going to Can I tell you we were trying

991
00:55:13,760 --> 00:55:18,759
Speaker 1: to get Michelle, like while we were trying to get her,

992
00:55:18,800 --> 00:55:20,479
Speaker 1: and I think she might be just out of our reach.

993
00:55:20,880 --> 00:55:22,640
Speaker 1: Like some people that I was talking to about it

994
00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:24,720
Speaker 1: was like, I think you need to get some queens

995
00:55:24,840 --> 00:55:27,600
Speaker 1: first and then it'll make it worth Michelle Vissage is

996
00:55:27,800 --> 00:55:30,040
Speaker 1: while because we're at the point right now where like

997
00:55:30,560 --> 00:55:34,560
Speaker 1: probably her people wouldn't even tell her that we contact him. Yeah,

998
00:55:34,760 --> 00:55:37,480
Speaker 1: but just to connect with the young Gates she does,

999
00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:40,560
Speaker 1: you can get her. We can get she has a grinder.

1000
00:55:41,560 --> 00:55:44,080
Speaker 1: She does she wants the tea that she has a

1001
00:55:44,160 --> 00:55:49,520
Speaker 1: grind chat. That's hilarious. It's hilarious. But also like, okay,

1002
00:55:50,239 --> 00:55:53,000
Speaker 1: chill out, Michelle, You've got a kid. Just like I'm

1003
00:55:53,000 --> 00:55:54,560
Speaker 1: just saying, not not saying like she can't be on

1004
00:55:54,640 --> 00:55:56,400
Speaker 1: grinding because she has a kid, but it's like with

1005
00:55:56,480 --> 00:55:59,279
Speaker 1: her kid, don't be on the phone chatting with Maybe

1006
00:55:59,320 --> 00:56:01,440
Speaker 1: the kid is asleep. We all know us kids are

1007
00:56:01,480 --> 00:56:06,759
Speaker 1: awake at night. And then with the other kids. Yeah,

1008
00:56:07,160 --> 00:56:09,920
Speaker 1: I think we can I mean not to like book

1009
00:56:10,320 --> 00:56:12,279
Speaker 1: live while we're on on the record, but like we

1010
00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:15,000
Speaker 1: can get like we know Thorgy like, we've been to

1011
00:56:15,080 --> 00:56:17,439
Speaker 1: Bob shows before she got she was on the show.

1012
00:56:18,280 --> 00:56:23,160
Speaker 1: Have you seen Bob performed live? Not? Not the full

1013
00:56:23,360 --> 00:56:26,680
Speaker 1: Bob experience, not yet, but I really want to. Bob

1014
00:56:26,800 --> 00:56:28,880
Speaker 1: used to do a weekly show at barracouta lounge in

1015
00:56:28,960 --> 00:56:31,800
Speaker 1: New York, and we were lucky because we got to

1016
00:56:31,920 --> 00:56:34,759
Speaker 1: see Bob before. Before Now you can't see really see

1017
00:56:34,800 --> 00:56:38,120
Speaker 1: Bob anymore. And that was the funniest comedy show in

1018
00:56:38,160 --> 00:56:39,640
Speaker 1: New York. It's that. That was one of the best

1019
00:56:39,640 --> 00:56:42,680
Speaker 1: comedas in New York City. Actually hang out with you guys,

1020
00:56:42,760 --> 00:56:44,680
Speaker 1: for you guys are really hip and cool. I like

1021
00:56:44,800 --> 00:56:47,200
Speaker 1: to be at home in bed. I see. The thing

1022
00:56:47,320 --> 00:56:49,399
Speaker 1: is though, I also like to be at home in bed,

1023
00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:51,959
Speaker 1: and I also like to be and Bob the drag

1024
00:56:52,040 --> 00:56:53,920
Speaker 1: Queen was the only thing that could get me out

1025
00:56:53,960 --> 00:56:58,080
Speaker 1: of midnight on a Monday, which is when I can't

1026
00:56:58,320 --> 00:57:02,560
Speaker 1: I know, right, But Bob eat it worth it, just

1027
00:57:02,719 --> 00:57:06,160
Speaker 1: go home. Look up, Look up Bob doing a lip

1028
00:57:06,239 --> 00:57:10,200
Speaker 1: sync to God Warrior, God Warrior and the Wife Swap.

1029
00:57:10,600 --> 00:57:12,799
Speaker 1: Remember that Wife Swap episode where she was like, oh

1030
00:57:12,840 --> 00:57:16,880
Speaker 1: my god, what a very religious Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah,

1031
00:57:16,920 --> 00:57:18,840
Speaker 1: So he does a lip sync mixed to that, and

1032
00:57:18,880 --> 00:57:21,040
Speaker 1: then he does a lip sync mixed to Slave for

1033
00:57:21,120 --> 00:57:23,360
Speaker 1: You by Britney Spears with Chris Rock stand up about

1034
00:57:23,760 --> 00:57:28,600
Speaker 1: slavery and it's the most genius. It's a genius so

1035
00:57:29,000 --> 00:57:32,200
Speaker 1: so funny and uh, it's it's just fantastic. So yeah,

1036
00:57:32,280 --> 00:57:34,400
Speaker 1: I mean, god, Bob was great on Two Dope Queens.

1037
00:57:36,920 --> 00:57:40,960
Speaker 1: That energy was yeah, um, oh my god, Phoebe so

1038
00:57:41,080 --> 00:57:43,720
Speaker 1: tell us. I don't know, this is like slightly cloying,

1039
00:57:44,400 --> 00:57:48,440
Speaker 1: but I mean we're we're, we're, we're we're charting new

1040
00:57:48,520 --> 00:57:54,520
Speaker 1: waters in the podcast world podcast queen. Yes, So was

1041
00:57:54,600 --> 00:57:56,480
Speaker 1: this something because we started doing this and it was

1042
00:57:56,520 --> 00:58:00,440
Speaker 1: just like this will be for us, but like, what's

1043
00:58:00,520 --> 00:58:04,360
Speaker 1: the teams like? So when you started getting into it, yeah,

1044
00:58:04,480 --> 00:58:06,920
Speaker 1: were you just like this will be for fun? Or

1045
00:58:07,080 --> 00:58:10,040
Speaker 1: was that? Yeah? I mean even before I started with

1046
00:58:10,360 --> 00:58:12,240
Speaker 1: w y C, I used to do a podcast out

1047
00:58:12,280 --> 00:58:15,160
Speaker 1: of my apartment in Brooklyn that like maybe a hundred

1048
00:58:15,200 --> 00:58:17,640
Speaker 1: people listened to and I was just interviewing people and

1049
00:58:17,720 --> 00:58:19,200
Speaker 1: I just had fun doing it. It was like I

1050
00:58:19,320 --> 00:58:22,760
Speaker 1: just want to hang out with funny people and that

1051
00:58:22,960 --> 00:58:25,120
Speaker 1: was it. And then when I teamed up with Jess

1052
00:58:25,200 --> 00:58:27,240
Speaker 1: and Two Dope queens. We really just wanted to be

1053
00:58:27,520 --> 00:58:31,000
Speaker 1: representing different voices and then saying with like so many

1054
00:58:31,040 --> 00:58:33,360
Speaker 1: white guys, I just really wanted to interview people that

1055
00:58:33,440 --> 00:58:37,120
Speaker 1: I thought were brilliant and hilarious and weren't getting enough

1056
00:58:37,200 --> 00:58:40,840
Speaker 1: shine or like I felt like weren't being asked enough

1057
00:58:41,240 --> 00:58:44,680
Speaker 1: great questions and interviews, and that really is what it's about.

1058
00:58:45,040 --> 00:58:49,720
Speaker 1: Like people get booked, but then they get asked fucking bullshit. Yeah. Yeah.

1059
00:58:49,720 --> 00:58:51,760
Speaker 1: I felt like a lot of Janet Mock was just

1060
00:58:51,920 --> 00:58:54,880
Speaker 1: like so you're you're a woman now, and it was

1061
00:58:54,960 --> 00:58:57,360
Speaker 1: just like there's so you know what I mean. I

1062
00:58:57,480 --> 00:59:00,479
Speaker 1: just felt so reductive and like this miss been away

1063
00:59:00,560 --> 00:59:03,320
Speaker 1: and just kind of like putting her into other category.

1064
00:59:03,440 --> 00:59:06,200
Speaker 1: It's like there's more to her than just transitioning to

1065
00:59:06,320 --> 00:59:08,080
Speaker 1: her who she really is, you know what I mean?

1066
00:59:08,240 --> 00:59:09,960
Speaker 1: And I just felt like people were just kind of

1067
00:59:10,680 --> 00:59:14,919
Speaker 1: not respecting that or honoring her talent or her intelligence,

1068
00:59:15,000 --> 00:59:17,800
Speaker 1: and so I just really wanted to stop that. That's fantastic.

1069
00:59:18,320 --> 00:59:21,720
Speaker 1: I remember going to the two Dip Queen's launch party

1070
00:59:22,080 --> 00:59:25,400
Speaker 1: in the Green Space. Oh my god, that's right. So

1071
00:59:25,520 --> 00:59:28,200
Speaker 1: I was there and I got the hook up. This

1072
00:59:28,320 --> 00:59:30,120
Speaker 1: is before we like I this is before we knew

1073
00:59:30,160 --> 00:59:32,479
Speaker 1: each other, but like I had seen you do stand

1074
00:59:32,600 --> 00:59:36,840
Speaker 1: up and then Shaun Womer swarm at Yeah. So she

1075
00:59:36,960 --> 00:59:39,000
Speaker 1: and I did a show together and then he was like,

1076
00:59:39,120 --> 00:59:41,040
Speaker 1: come to this premier party. It's it's gonna be this

1077
00:59:41,320 --> 00:59:43,880
Speaker 1: great new podcast. I was like cool, So he went

1078
00:59:44,080 --> 00:59:46,480
Speaker 1: and then you you guys came out and then that

1079
00:59:47,480 --> 00:59:51,000
Speaker 1: it was an event hacked and then Phoebe wore this

1080
00:59:51,240 --> 00:59:56,240
Speaker 1: like amazing red dress from Forever one. I don't want

1081
00:59:56,240 --> 00:59:58,080
Speaker 1: to like, just don't take this the wrong way. You

1082
00:59:58,120 --> 01:00:03,000
Speaker 1: look snatched, you like amazing, and I think you walked

1083
01:00:03,080 --> 01:00:04,800
Speaker 1: up on stage and you get and you said and

1084
01:00:04,800 --> 01:00:08,000
Speaker 1: I'll never forget this. You said, um, I can't do

1085
01:00:08,080 --> 01:00:11,160
Speaker 1: anything in this stress except get laid. And I was like,

1086
01:00:13,600 --> 01:00:19,000
Speaker 1: I don't remember saying that. That's so that's such a

1087
01:00:19,120 --> 01:00:24,120
Speaker 1: good line. I did not get late at night. I mean,

1088
01:00:24,720 --> 01:00:28,240
Speaker 1: you know, you know sometimes I'm single, just you are single?

1089
01:00:28,960 --> 01:00:33,400
Speaker 1: So yeah, can I tell you what I heard about today? What? Yeah, Rya,

1090
01:00:34,360 --> 01:00:38,280
Speaker 1: I'm wait listed. I've been wait listed for a year

1091
01:00:38,320 --> 01:00:40,560
Speaker 1: and a half. Why would they wait? Like, I don't know.

1092
01:00:40,920 --> 01:00:43,760
Speaker 1: And I have a friend who got on Riya and

1093
01:00:44,000 --> 01:00:46,640
Speaker 1: used me as a reference and I'm still not allowed on.

1094
01:00:46,800 --> 01:00:49,080
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's that's bullshit for those of you

1095
01:00:49,160 --> 01:00:51,480
Speaker 1: who don't know it, because I didn't know this, But

1096
01:00:51,760 --> 01:00:56,480
Speaker 1: Riya is like a dating after famous people for famous people,

1097
01:00:57,000 --> 01:01:02,120
Speaker 1: like for creatives, really really creatives. Yea for like notable creatives.

1098
01:01:02,360 --> 01:01:08,320
Speaker 1: And Phoebe Robinson is not call your mother fucking senators.

1099
01:01:08,640 --> 01:01:11,640
Speaker 1: That's bullshit right in call and you know what, don't

1100
01:01:11,720 --> 01:01:17,920
Speaker 1: email Diane, find guys, get on it. Get on it,

1101
01:01:18,200 --> 01:01:26,640
Speaker 1: Kirsty Brand maybe um, maybe vote on Phoebe. Wait, someone

1102
01:01:26,680 --> 01:01:29,960
Speaker 1: who's us a reference? That's that's crazy. So someone is

1103
01:01:30,040 --> 01:01:35,240
Speaker 1: working on it, so hopefully all happen. But I heard

1104
01:01:35,280 --> 01:01:37,440
Speaker 1: that it's I've heard mixed things. I heard that it's

1105
01:01:37,440 --> 01:01:39,439
Speaker 1: just like every other day app where there's a lot

1106
01:01:39,520 --> 01:01:43,160
Speaker 1: of turns to yeah, I'm sure. I know. I'm a romantic.

1107
01:01:43,240 --> 01:01:46,160
Speaker 1: I just want to meet in personally, honestly. That's how

1108
01:01:46,200 --> 01:01:48,080
Speaker 1: Henry and I met, And I was the only way

1109
01:01:48,120 --> 01:01:51,200
Speaker 1: I was looking. How did you guys we met? When

1110
01:01:51,280 --> 01:01:54,600
Speaker 1: we met? Um, Josh Sharper Aaron Jackson do a show

1111
01:01:54,760 --> 01:01:56,960
Speaker 1: in New York called Gay Show for All People and

1112
01:01:57,080 --> 01:01:59,920
Speaker 1: their pianist is Henry Koperski, and I was on the

1113
01:02:00,040 --> 01:02:02,240
Speaker 1: show doing a set, and that was when at the

1114
01:02:02,320 --> 01:02:04,320
Speaker 1: very first time, and actually I was on that show

1115
01:02:04,400 --> 01:02:08,080
Speaker 1: with a lot of Glazer and who I had known

1116
01:02:08,880 --> 01:02:11,600
Speaker 1: like several years prior because she was in a video

1117
01:02:12,160 --> 01:02:14,480
Speaker 1: that my sketch group did, and so I was reconnecting

1118
01:02:14,520 --> 01:02:16,000
Speaker 1: with her. And it was so funny because I was

1119
01:02:16,040 --> 01:02:18,480
Speaker 1: so excited to see her because I hadn't seen her

1120
01:02:18,520 --> 01:02:20,400
Speaker 1: in years, and also I was like just pumped to

1121
01:02:20,480 --> 01:02:22,960
Speaker 1: see a lot of perform So I was catching up,

1122
01:02:23,240 --> 01:02:25,520
Speaker 1: not even catching up because we weren't like friends, like

1123
01:02:25,720 --> 01:02:27,400
Speaker 1: kind of knew each other, but I was like picking

1124
01:02:27,440 --> 01:02:29,440
Speaker 1: her brain a little bit, talking to her, and this

1125
01:02:29,520 --> 01:02:30,960
Speaker 1: whole time out of the corner of my eye, I

1126
01:02:31,080 --> 01:02:33,880
Speaker 1: was like, but also that piano player though, but also

1127
01:02:34,000 --> 01:02:38,120
Speaker 1: like and I always clocked Henry, but he had a

1128
01:02:38,160 --> 01:02:39,720
Speaker 1: boyfriend at the time, and then they broke up and

1129
01:02:39,840 --> 01:02:42,040
Speaker 1: three days later we got together. We were good together

1130
01:02:42,120 --> 01:02:44,800
Speaker 1: ever since. How have you guys been together? Just hit up?

1131
01:02:44,840 --> 01:02:50,720
Speaker 1: Two years? Oh my god, congratulations, Beautiful is the best.

1132
01:02:51,200 --> 01:02:53,840
Speaker 1: But what I'm saying is I always in the back

1133
01:02:53,880 --> 01:02:55,480
Speaker 1: of my head was like, yeah, please God, let me

1134
01:02:56,200 --> 01:02:58,800
Speaker 1: meet someone in real life. But I was looking on

1135
01:02:58,920 --> 01:03:02,520
Speaker 1: the apps I'm holding out for John Hamm. Yeah. O,

1136
01:03:02,680 --> 01:03:05,880
Speaker 1: my god, you did the podcast, like you know there

1137
01:03:05,960 --> 01:03:08,640
Speaker 1: was a connection, and there was a connection. Yeah, you

1138
01:03:08,720 --> 01:03:13,080
Speaker 1: have that. I would ask this SIMI serious question, and

1139
01:03:13,120 --> 01:03:14,840
Speaker 1: it supplies to both of you, tell three of us,

1140
01:03:14,920 --> 01:03:17,680
Speaker 1: to everybody in this room. Okay, But with Ryan, if

1141
01:03:17,720 --> 01:03:20,400
Speaker 1: it's for creatives, how do we feel about dating people

1142
01:03:20,920 --> 01:03:24,560
Speaker 1: in the creative world? Because I was talking to someone

1143
01:03:24,640 --> 01:03:27,160
Speaker 1: about like about this and they and they were like, oh,

1144
01:03:27,240 --> 01:03:31,040
Speaker 1: I would never want to date another person tangentially even

1145
01:03:31,080 --> 01:03:33,440
Speaker 1: in my field, because they would just be this competitive thing.

1146
01:03:33,760 --> 01:03:36,480
Speaker 1: Here's the thing specifically with Riot, it's not just creatives

1147
01:03:36,520 --> 01:03:38,960
Speaker 1: in terms of like writers and actors and communities like

1148
01:03:39,040 --> 01:03:43,040
Speaker 1: Amy Schumer met her like a woodworker. Boys, Yeah, under

1149
01:03:43,080 --> 01:03:45,840
Speaker 1: the under the umbrella of creat like if you're an entrepreneur,

1150
01:03:46,240 --> 01:03:49,320
Speaker 1: like on your own business, you know that sort of thing.

1151
01:03:49,440 --> 01:03:52,440
Speaker 1: If you're not like an accountant, then you're then you

1152
01:03:52,560 --> 01:03:56,760
Speaker 1: qualify basically can't just be working at the desk. Um.

1153
01:03:57,320 --> 01:04:01,120
Speaker 1: But for me, it's like, when I was looking around,

1154
01:04:01,240 --> 01:04:03,080
Speaker 1: I just didn't want to date someone that was doing

1155
01:04:03,160 --> 01:04:06,840
Speaker 1: exactly what I was doing, especially when you're dating another man,

1156
01:04:07,520 --> 01:04:10,800
Speaker 1: because then it's like you literally are coming for the

1157
01:04:10,880 --> 01:04:13,600
Speaker 1: same spot. Yeah, I wanted to avoid that because I know,

1158
01:04:13,760 --> 01:04:18,120
Speaker 1: like I might have some some deep seated competition. Yeah.

1159
01:04:18,480 --> 01:04:20,640
Speaker 1: I also want your thing to be your thing and

1160
01:04:20,760 --> 01:04:23,120
Speaker 1: not you know, you want to like date someone who

1161
01:04:23,360 --> 01:04:25,919
Speaker 1: like has different interests than you, so when you come home,

1162
01:04:26,000 --> 01:04:28,800
Speaker 1: you're not just talking about the same thing you know

1163
01:04:29,080 --> 01:04:32,600
Speaker 1: means you want. Yeah, I don't want a date a comedian.

1164
01:04:32,600 --> 01:04:34,600
Speaker 1: I will never do it again. I've done it in

1165
01:04:34,720 --> 01:04:38,040
Speaker 1: the past and my twos and I'm like, never again. Um,

1166
01:04:38,400 --> 01:04:41,720
Speaker 1: but I'm open to like a I'm like, I'm open

1167
01:04:41,760 --> 01:04:45,040
Speaker 1: to Michael B. Jordan, Like I'm open to I think

1168
01:04:45,080 --> 01:04:48,440
Speaker 1: I could be very open, you know what I mean,

1169
01:04:48,680 --> 01:04:52,240
Speaker 1: I could be wide open and there I'll put it

1170
01:04:52,320 --> 01:05:01,360
Speaker 1: out there. Poppers oh um, but yeah, I think. Yeah,

1171
01:05:01,440 --> 01:05:05,240
Speaker 1: he's so dread christ though for me, and so talented

1172
01:05:06,120 --> 01:05:08,880
Speaker 1: it's insane. Do you know who I love? Who? Um?

1173
01:05:09,560 --> 01:05:12,520
Speaker 1: Oh my god, oh my god, oh my god. Yeah

1174
01:05:13,080 --> 01:05:16,400
Speaker 1: they were all in a movie together, No, Michael, I

1175
01:05:16,440 --> 01:05:22,880
Speaker 1: mean yes, Um, are you're talking about Herschela? And yeah,

1176
01:05:23,400 --> 01:05:27,520
Speaker 1: and also who played at the end of the movie, Um, Kevin?

1177
01:05:27,560 --> 01:05:32,920
Speaker 1: Who grown up? Oh? He was I was super And

1178
01:05:33,000 --> 01:05:36,360
Speaker 1: also not for nothing but that was a hot movie.

1179
01:05:37,240 --> 01:05:39,320
Speaker 1: It gets it gets it gets credit for being a

1180
01:05:39,440 --> 01:05:41,680
Speaker 1: great movie, but also it doesn't get enough credit for

1181
01:05:41,760 --> 01:05:44,320
Speaker 1: being a hot movie. Um, I just watched it that

1182
01:05:44,640 --> 01:05:47,080
Speaker 1: h J. I was like, the h J was a

1183
01:05:47,440 --> 01:05:51,880
Speaker 1: moment and also you get you get a little an

1184
01:05:51,920 --> 01:05:57,480
Speaker 1: Oscar worthy hand job. Is that the only movie that's

1185
01:05:57,480 --> 01:05:59,360
Speaker 1: ever an Oscar winner where a hand drop was a

1186
01:05:59,440 --> 01:06:02,880
Speaker 1: full plot point? Maybe? I think so, yes, I think

1187
01:06:04,440 --> 01:06:10,800
Speaker 1: that that didn't happen in Black Swan Matts. Matt's like

1188
01:06:11,120 --> 01:06:13,920
Speaker 1: new latest fixture is the lead from Power from the

1189
01:06:13,960 --> 01:06:17,280
Speaker 1: Power Rangers. It's I haven't seen it, okay, so again

1190
01:06:17,520 --> 01:06:20,520
Speaker 1: the basic like like hot dude. It's like, he's a

1191
01:06:20,600 --> 01:06:23,480
Speaker 1: hot twenty two year old Australian who's obviously being starved

1192
01:06:23,880 --> 01:06:28,000
Speaker 1: named Dhacker montgomer Right. That name is too much, way

1193
01:06:28,080 --> 01:06:30,280
Speaker 1: too much. It's way too much and he's way too

1194
01:06:30,400 --> 01:06:34,000
Speaker 1: much but like to to do too much good. Yeah,

1195
01:06:34,560 --> 01:06:36,400
Speaker 1: but I was going to say, what's his name, Oh,

1196
01:06:36,560 --> 01:06:42,000
Speaker 1: Jesse Smollett, who's that he's Honestly, he's snuck up on

1197
01:06:42,120 --> 01:06:44,240
Speaker 1: me because in the beginning episodes of Empire, I was

1198
01:06:44,280 --> 01:06:46,200
Speaker 1: like no, and then later on I was like, yes,

1199
01:06:46,360 --> 01:06:49,560
Speaker 1: he can sing, he's so handsome, He's amazing. And then

1200
01:06:49,600 --> 01:06:51,520
Speaker 1: of course I always I always love my boys, my

1201
01:06:51,680 --> 01:06:55,800
Speaker 1: Justin Timber, like my Crispine. I'm a crisp Pine. Okay,

1202
01:06:56,040 --> 01:07:00,439
Speaker 1: which one is that that track? Because the right white

1203
01:07:00,520 --> 01:07:02,880
Speaker 1: Chris is it's hard to keep them all in check.

1204
01:07:03,280 --> 01:07:06,680
Speaker 1: He is Captain Kirk. Oh, I thought that was Chris Evans.

1205
01:07:06,800 --> 01:07:12,959
Speaker 1: Chris Evans is Captain America. I'm so sorry these hot

1206
01:07:13,120 --> 01:07:18,800
Speaker 1: straight white captain's name Chris Oh yeah yeah, Chris Pine. Yeah.

1207
01:07:18,880 --> 01:07:22,360
Speaker 1: That's a cute working like everything to me. And I

1208
01:07:22,520 --> 01:07:25,200
Speaker 1: wish I could get into Zachary Quinto, but I'm just not.

1209
01:07:25,400 --> 01:07:28,240
Speaker 1: He's I'm not a spot guy. I'm a Kirk guy,

1210
01:07:28,680 --> 01:07:31,800
Speaker 1: if you know what I mean. He's keute on his

1211
01:07:31,920 --> 01:07:37,000
Speaker 1: Instagram though, Zacharyyah, yeah, he's like he's like a cute,

1212
01:07:37,040 --> 01:07:39,880
Speaker 1: stylish kid. There you go, and you can go for that.

1213
01:07:40,240 --> 01:07:44,600
Speaker 1: Yeah right, yeah, Okay. Do you have a type or

1214
01:07:44,680 --> 01:07:47,480
Speaker 1: do you think the word that? I don't know. I

1215
01:07:47,640 --> 01:07:50,240
Speaker 1: think I like kind of. I think my type is

1216
01:07:50,360 --> 01:07:52,960
Speaker 1: changing because I'm I'm thirty two now and I think

1217
01:07:53,040 --> 01:07:56,320
Speaker 1: i'm because I have more self esteem now, I love

1218
01:07:56,440 --> 01:07:58,840
Speaker 1: myself more. I think it's changing anything. Before I was

1219
01:07:58,920 --> 01:08:01,520
Speaker 1: just kind of like thank you, just like thank you

1220
01:08:01,640 --> 01:08:03,840
Speaker 1: so much for like liking me, you know what I mean,

1221
01:08:03,960 --> 01:08:05,800
Speaker 1: just like, oh, I'm so happy you want to date me.

1222
01:08:05,880 --> 01:08:07,640
Speaker 1: I'm just grateful to be in a relationship. And now

1223
01:08:07,680 --> 01:08:10,480
Speaker 1: I'm like, I want to day to boss. I want

1224
01:08:10,480 --> 01:08:13,480
Speaker 1: to date someone who reads. And it's funny obviously like

1225
01:08:13,920 --> 01:08:17,280
Speaker 1: super cute, but like I think I just want an

1226
01:08:17,320 --> 01:08:20,080
Speaker 1: involved man. You want somebody that can take care of

1227
01:08:20,200 --> 01:08:25,800
Speaker 1: themselves and has figured themselves out, exactly, trying to be

1228
01:08:25,960 --> 01:08:31,080
Speaker 1: the person who saves anybody not here for potential anymore. Sorry, Sorry,

1229
01:08:31,200 --> 01:08:34,760
Speaker 1: I can't. I'm done. If we can get Phoebe a

1230
01:08:34,920 --> 01:08:38,519
Speaker 1: man from this podcast, if you're out there, if you're

1231
01:08:38,520 --> 01:08:48,519
Speaker 1: an involved man, reach out like late thirties early that ye, Honestly,

1232
01:08:48,680 --> 01:08:53,920
Speaker 1: if anyone deserves an involved man, it's me and Phoebe. Yeah. Wait,

1233
01:08:54,080 --> 01:08:57,559
Speaker 1: how long have you been single? It's been almost my life. Well,

1234
01:08:57,720 --> 01:08:59,479
Speaker 1: the last time I date someone was like years ago,

1235
01:08:59,560 --> 01:09:02,760
Speaker 1: but like and then nothing's nothing's gone beyond like two

1236
01:09:02,880 --> 01:09:06,719
Speaker 1: three months. Yeah, it's hard, and I wouldn't consider myself

1237
01:09:06,840 --> 01:09:12,599
Speaker 1: ever having been in a relationship relationship. I've had things. Um,

1238
01:09:13,360 --> 01:09:16,280
Speaker 1: I was recently on our friend Farris podcast where it's

1239
01:09:16,280 --> 01:09:19,240
Speaker 1: called Psychic Hotline one dollar a minute. She brings on

1240
01:09:19,320 --> 01:09:23,040
Speaker 1: comedians and they talked to psychics sic. And that's my

1241
01:09:23,120 --> 01:09:26,160
Speaker 1: main question, my name. My main question was, Hey, um,

1242
01:09:27,040 --> 01:09:28,600
Speaker 1: I've just been dealing with this my whole life and

1243
01:09:28,840 --> 01:09:31,320
Speaker 1: people telling me all the time like, we'll work on

1244
01:09:31,400 --> 01:09:33,639
Speaker 1: yourself and then they'll come. But I've been like I've

1245
01:09:33,640 --> 01:09:37,000
Speaker 1: been I've been doing that for forever, like what like

1246
01:09:37,200 --> 01:09:40,160
Speaker 1: what gives? Like when's this going to happen? And then

1247
01:09:40,160 --> 01:09:41,880
Speaker 1: the psychic who may have been bat at her job

1248
01:09:41,920 --> 01:09:44,280
Speaker 1: because she just didn't really give me much, but she

1249
01:09:44,400 --> 01:09:49,120
Speaker 1: was like, you know what, I'm thinking, mid May, you'll

1250
01:09:49,160 --> 01:09:52,320
Speaker 1: get someone. And then um, and then she goes, I'm

1251
01:09:52,439 --> 01:09:56,560
Speaker 1: seeing September. By September, you'll be living together. And I

1252
01:09:56,680 --> 01:10:01,840
Speaker 1: was like, okay, that's some wild I mean, I don't

1253
01:10:02,080 --> 01:10:06,000
Speaker 1: that doesn't sound like me. That opens up a whole

1254
01:10:06,080 --> 01:10:10,599
Speaker 1: bunch of more questions. Books wrong with me? In June

1255
01:10:10,640 --> 01:10:14,240
Speaker 1: and July, that's that's a lot. I don't get together

1256
01:10:14,360 --> 01:10:18,679
Speaker 1: by September, pumped the brake four months days, moved fast

1257
01:10:18,800 --> 01:10:23,080
Speaker 1: but not stupid. Oh my god. Yeah. I was just

1258
01:10:23,200 --> 01:10:25,400
Speaker 1: like okay, and then I just like count like you're

1259
01:10:25,400 --> 01:10:27,479
Speaker 1: in there, like maybe I want a dog? And she

1260
01:10:27,600 --> 01:10:29,519
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, you know what, by the time you're

1261
01:10:30,120 --> 01:10:33,439
Speaker 1: moved into the pah, it was like next week, I

1262
01:10:33,479 --> 01:10:35,160
Speaker 1: gun said, you get a dog? Okay. I was like okay,

1263
01:10:35,280 --> 01:10:38,960
Speaker 1: thanks lady. And then her whole, her whole like adage

1264
01:10:39,000 --> 01:10:42,240
Speaker 1: for me was and she just had this like raspy,

1265
01:10:42,320 --> 01:10:44,720
Speaker 1: smoky voice and she was like, um, she was like,

1266
01:10:44,960 --> 01:10:48,080
Speaker 1: you know, just what I say is this is what

1267
01:10:48,200 --> 01:10:51,760
Speaker 1: you have to remember. Just say why not? Why not

1268
01:10:51,960 --> 01:10:53,840
Speaker 1: let myself have a dog and a boyfriend? And I

1269
01:10:53,960 --> 01:10:56,280
Speaker 1: was like, I kind of like pushed back. I was like,

1270
01:10:56,560 --> 01:10:59,880
Speaker 1: that doesn't really tell me anything. Well, so I have

1271
01:11:00,000 --> 01:11:04,960
Speaker 1: intov was seventeen times you because for for a literal

1272
01:11:05,120 --> 01:11:09,240
Speaker 1: fucking uh, you know, four month relationship before you move

1273
01:11:09,320 --> 01:11:11,240
Speaker 1: in Like that's not going to end well. But anyway,

1274
01:11:11,800 --> 01:11:17,000
Speaker 1: that's yeah, she's crazy. She's crazy. Yeah, hard pass, hard pass,

1275
01:11:17,200 --> 01:11:22,439
Speaker 1: hard pass for me on believing, oh meet too. And

1276
01:11:22,640 --> 01:11:25,920
Speaker 1: I even to you a believer and would you head up?

1277
01:11:26,000 --> 01:11:30,160
Speaker 1: Would you? I don't think I would, But I believe

1278
01:11:30,200 --> 01:11:33,000
Speaker 1: in other things. I could believe in aliens, yeah for sure,

1279
01:11:33,479 --> 01:11:36,200
Speaker 1: for sure. Here I believe in like the secret and

1280
01:11:36,280 --> 01:11:39,200
Speaker 1: like the universe and all that kind of like stuff.

1281
01:11:39,439 --> 01:11:42,200
Speaker 1: Oh my god. Well I will only believe like that

1282
01:11:42,520 --> 01:11:45,160
Speaker 1: kind of new ag stuff when it comes. And I

1283
01:11:45,320 --> 01:11:46,920
Speaker 1: mean that it's not just because we were talking about

1284
01:11:46,920 --> 01:11:49,160
Speaker 1: her earlier, when it comes from Oprah, because she has

1285
01:11:49,160 --> 01:11:53,519
Speaker 1: another video where she says there are no mistakes. You

1286
01:11:53,560 --> 01:11:55,360
Speaker 1: know I'm talking about She's like, but there is that

1287
01:11:55,680 --> 01:11:59,080
Speaker 1: thing that pushes you along your path and will always

1288
01:11:59,120 --> 01:12:01,599
Speaker 1: set you right. And it's like, that's it. That's my religion.

1289
01:12:02,120 --> 01:12:05,200
Speaker 1: It's so true. Um. But then I but I like,

1290
01:12:05,280 --> 01:12:06,840
Speaker 1: I was very up front with this lady over the phone.

1291
01:12:06,880 --> 01:12:08,320
Speaker 1: I was like, by the way, this is my first

1292
01:12:08,360 --> 01:12:12,400
Speaker 1: time calling um, and I don't believe in astrology. I'm

1293
01:12:12,479 --> 01:12:15,160
Speaker 1: like not, but I'm just doing this for fun. Um.

1294
01:12:15,320 --> 01:12:17,519
Speaker 1: And meanwhile Fare was just sitting there like pitt and

1295
01:12:17,560 --> 01:12:22,160
Speaker 1: buttons and and and stuff. But anyway, UM, my boyfriend

1296
01:12:22,280 --> 01:12:26,080
Speaker 1: like for a second was like twining with the idea

1297
01:12:26,120 --> 01:12:29,560
Speaker 1: of like getting into numerology, and I was like, and

1298
01:12:29,640 --> 01:12:32,000
Speaker 1: then I sicked my best friend's studio on him, and

1299
01:12:33,479 --> 01:12:35,600
Speaker 1: she was like, if you have problems, you need to

1300
01:12:35,680 --> 01:12:40,120
Speaker 1: go to a therapist. Neurology is not it, That's it.

1301
01:12:40,280 --> 01:12:48,200
Speaker 1: That's true. He meditate, um phoebe before we move on

1302
01:12:48,360 --> 01:12:50,160
Speaker 1: any other little I know what, we didn't really talk

1303
01:12:50,160 --> 01:12:52,360
Speaker 1: about this that much, any little podcasting tips. I know,

1304
01:12:52,479 --> 01:12:54,920
Speaker 1: it's like such a silly here's a question for you.

1305
01:12:56,240 --> 01:12:58,960
Speaker 1: When you are about to interview someone, did you come

1306
01:12:59,000 --> 01:13:04,080
Speaker 1: with your question? Yeah. So we have like very small

1307
01:13:04,160 --> 01:13:06,439
Speaker 1: crew with so many white guys. But they'll do research

1308
01:13:06,680 --> 01:13:09,360
Speaker 1: and then they'll send me like the first round of questions.

1309
01:13:09,840 --> 01:13:11,560
Speaker 1: Then I go through and tweak them that at my

1310
01:13:11,640 --> 01:13:14,920
Speaker 1: own questions, and then I just kind of want to

1311
01:13:14,960 --> 01:13:17,040
Speaker 1: do the interview. I just kind of like follow wherever

1312
01:13:17,160 --> 01:13:20,560
Speaker 1: the interview goes. Yeah, that's the way you gotta do it,

1313
01:13:20,600 --> 01:13:23,960
Speaker 1: because Yeah, because especially when you're talking to people, like

1314
01:13:24,160 --> 01:13:28,160
Speaker 1: when I interviewed I don't know, my interviewed Tom Hanks.

1315
01:13:28,240 --> 01:13:32,040
Speaker 1: It was just like super fun and delightful, and I

1316
01:13:32,200 --> 01:13:33,840
Speaker 1: just kind of wanted to go wherever he wanted to

1317
01:13:33,880 --> 01:13:36,320
Speaker 1: go because he was he was so good at playing Yeah,

1318
01:13:36,720 --> 01:13:38,240
Speaker 1: because he's done in a million times and I'm sure

1319
01:13:38,280 --> 01:13:40,760
Speaker 1: he wants He felt it very refreshing. Yeah, I just

1320
01:13:40,960 --> 01:13:44,760
Speaker 1: have this kind of like candid conversation exactly. The most

1321
01:13:45,840 --> 01:13:49,600
Speaker 1: Tom Hanks, No, the most nervous. I was was with

1322
01:13:50,160 --> 01:13:54,400
Speaker 1: one was with Strangely enough, the comedians, like Margaret Cho

1323
01:13:54,560 --> 01:13:58,760
Speaker 1: I was very nervous with her, Um Mike bro big

1324
01:13:58,840 --> 01:14:01,600
Speaker 1: Leia was pretty nerves and I don't know why. But

1325
01:14:01,760 --> 01:14:03,680
Speaker 1: with the comedians, I just really want to do a

1326
01:14:03,760 --> 01:14:09,680
Speaker 1: good job. Yeah, yeah, yeah, And I don't want to

1327
01:14:09,720 --> 01:14:12,080
Speaker 1: be like, oh I'm not able to be funny with them.

1328
01:14:12,120 --> 01:14:14,920
Speaker 1: I don't know. It was just like really like but

1329
01:14:15,280 --> 01:14:17,920
Speaker 1: it was great. Like Margaret was so funny and smart,

1330
01:14:18,840 --> 01:14:21,240
Speaker 1: just delightful. I was like, girl, just relax. I'm so glad.

1331
01:14:21,280 --> 01:14:24,439
Speaker 1: She's like she's coming back. Maybe she's never been gone.

1332
01:14:24,479 --> 01:14:29,960
Speaker 1: But like in terms of like formative comedic influences, well,

1333
01:14:30,040 --> 01:14:34,160
Speaker 1: here's the thing is, I was never I didn't want

1334
01:14:34,160 --> 01:14:36,120
Speaker 1: to get into stand up like it was never a

1335
01:14:36,240 --> 01:14:38,200
Speaker 1: comedy was never my thing. Like I thought I was

1336
01:14:38,200 --> 01:14:41,880
Speaker 1: going to write like very serious films. Yeah, I was

1337
01:14:41,960 --> 01:14:45,200
Speaker 1: like American Beauty, I'm gonna write like that floating trash

1338
01:14:45,320 --> 01:14:48,360
Speaker 1: bag scene. Like that's like what I wanted. And so

1339
01:14:48,520 --> 01:14:51,800
Speaker 1: then when I started, you know, taking stand up class,

1340
01:14:52,040 --> 01:14:53,600
Speaker 1: and I kind of went back and I watched like

1341
01:14:53,720 --> 01:14:57,080
Speaker 1: Margaret Show and Chris Rock Generous and all those people

1342
01:14:57,160 --> 01:14:59,680
Speaker 1: so I really had to play catch up. But yeah,

1343
01:14:59,720 --> 01:15:03,479
Speaker 1: she is great. I mean it's but like her specials

1344
01:15:03,520 --> 01:15:09,599
Speaker 1: that watched, they were great, Uh yeah, like Wanda Sykes

1345
01:15:09,720 --> 01:15:11,840
Speaker 1: and just people like that, just really smart. Like I

1346
01:15:11,960 --> 01:15:16,120
Speaker 1: really liked Patrise O'Neil. I didn't agree with like thirty

1347
01:15:16,200 --> 01:15:19,439
Speaker 1: five percent of what he said, but he was so funny.

1348
01:15:19,560 --> 01:15:21,880
Speaker 1: He was always coming from a place of like his truth,

1349
01:15:21,960 --> 01:15:24,680
Speaker 1: which I thought was like very authentic and real and

1350
01:15:24,840 --> 01:15:28,240
Speaker 1: wasn't necessarily about like putting anyone down. It was more

1351
01:15:28,280 --> 01:15:30,400
Speaker 1: about how he sees the world. And even he's like

1352
01:15:31,120 --> 01:15:35,320
Speaker 1: kind of a little backwards gender wise, it's still kind

1353
01:15:35,360 --> 01:15:37,960
Speaker 1: of felt like, oh, this is coming from a place

1354
01:15:38,040 --> 01:15:40,479
Speaker 1: of not like women are just doom cunes. Like it

1355
01:15:40,640 --> 01:15:43,720
Speaker 1: was never that, you know what I mean. Did you

1356
01:15:43,760 --> 01:15:48,160
Speaker 1: watch the chall stuff? I did? I mean it's you know,

1357
01:15:48,600 --> 01:15:51,639
Speaker 1: I have I haven't watched that and I haven't haven't

1358
01:15:51,640 --> 01:15:57,280
Speaker 1: watched it yet because I'm like, I just yeah, yeah,

1359
01:15:57,360 --> 01:15:59,880
Speaker 1: I still have. I still have a lot of respect

1360
01:16:00,160 --> 01:16:03,240
Speaker 1: for him. It's it's weird to reconcile. It's like, I

1361
01:16:03,320 --> 01:16:07,439
Speaker 1: don't know, it's it's it's it's it's very complicated. But

1362
01:16:07,520 --> 01:16:09,320
Speaker 1: I think some of his stuff was funny. I think

1363
01:16:09,520 --> 01:16:12,040
Speaker 1: some of his queer stuff, I just think he's behind

1364
01:16:13,439 --> 01:16:16,080
Speaker 1: and I feel like so many jokes, I'm like, oh,

1365
01:16:16,120 --> 01:16:18,960
Speaker 1: if he just replaced like instead of gay or trans

1366
01:16:19,200 --> 01:16:22,280
Speaker 1: and replace like a black person, I don't think he

1367
01:16:22,320 --> 01:16:26,160
Speaker 1: would make that joke, sure, totally. But meanwhile, it's like

1368
01:16:26,479 --> 01:16:28,920
Speaker 1: that's so funny that people think that that is like

1369
01:16:29,120 --> 01:16:32,840
Speaker 1: a viable option because meanwhile, you have and I'm just

1370
01:16:32,880 --> 01:16:36,080
Speaker 1: gonna like shout out you and Jessica. It's like, well,

1371
01:16:36,160 --> 01:16:40,200
Speaker 1: YouTube youtubo on stage just like talk about yourselves and

1372
01:16:40,320 --> 01:16:43,920
Speaker 1: celebrate yourselves. And it's like just do that, yeah, and

1373
01:16:44,000 --> 01:16:47,360
Speaker 1: it's more fun and it's like good for everybody. It's

1374
01:16:47,400 --> 01:16:50,880
Speaker 1: more interesting to turn it in word yeah, And I

1375
01:16:51,000 --> 01:16:53,360
Speaker 1: think if you're going in I don't know. It's just

1376
01:16:53,479 --> 01:16:56,400
Speaker 1: like I don't think I would ever do trans material

1377
01:16:56,520 --> 01:16:59,439
Speaker 1: because it's like I'm not intelligent enough to talk about

1378
01:16:59,479 --> 01:17:02,280
Speaker 1: it yet. And that's okay, you know what he means.

1379
01:17:02,840 --> 01:17:06,560
Speaker 1: And like sometimes it's like you, the best thing that

1380
01:17:06,600 --> 01:17:08,400
Speaker 1: you can do is not be the voice of it,

1381
01:17:08,560 --> 01:17:11,519
Speaker 1: just passed into an actual transperson and have them do

1382
01:17:11,640 --> 01:17:14,880
Speaker 1: the comedy. And that's better than you, like trying to

1383
01:17:14,960 --> 01:17:16,960
Speaker 1: figure it out as like as this person and like

1384
01:17:17,160 --> 01:17:20,400
Speaker 1: really like do it poorly, you know, especially because it's

1385
01:17:20,400 --> 01:17:25,240
Speaker 1: always changing. Yeah, it's sometimes I think about like how

1386
01:17:25,320 --> 01:17:28,120
Speaker 1: far we've come in like five or six years even

1387
01:17:28,479 --> 01:17:31,120
Speaker 1: and we thought we were like nailing it in two

1388
01:17:31,200 --> 01:17:35,599
Speaker 1: thousand nine, It's like there was still like garbage happening,

1389
01:17:35,680 --> 01:17:40,040
Speaker 1: like the amount of the amount of like like frustrating

1390
01:17:40,120 --> 01:17:42,519
Speaker 1: like gay joke he saw like network television, like they

1391
01:17:42,600 --> 01:17:45,639
Speaker 1: only just are disappearing now, that is true, and it's

1392
01:17:45,840 --> 01:17:49,479
Speaker 1: very like like sometimes you go back and watch you

1393
01:17:49,560 --> 01:17:52,040
Speaker 1: like watch like Friends or something like the amount of

1394
01:17:52,200 --> 01:17:57,120
Speaker 1: gay panic on that show. It was like what and

1395
01:17:57,280 --> 01:18:01,080
Speaker 1: even it's crazy even on Will and Grace, like that

1396
01:18:01,280 --> 01:18:03,519
Speaker 1: was just what you guys feel about because so from

1397
01:18:03,560 --> 01:18:07,320
Speaker 1: the outside, I go, oh, it was a little backwards,

1398
01:18:07,360 --> 01:18:09,800
Speaker 1: but I think it was like a great first step.

1399
01:18:09,840 --> 01:18:11,559
Speaker 1: But do you feel that are you kind of like nah,

1400
01:18:11,800 --> 01:18:15,040
Speaker 1: like was not. I don't think it's bad that it existed.

1401
01:18:15,280 --> 01:18:17,160
Speaker 1: I think it's it was such a funny show and

1402
01:18:17,200 --> 01:18:19,200
Speaker 1: I think it like it was It got people talking

1403
01:18:19,280 --> 01:18:21,160
Speaker 1: about like what it must be like to be gay,

1404
01:18:21,520 --> 01:18:23,840
Speaker 1: and it got people like on the side of gay

1405
01:18:23,880 --> 01:18:27,799
Speaker 1: people because they were able to laugh with gay people. However,

1406
01:18:28,040 --> 01:18:32,600
Speaker 1: what I think it did contribute to, perhaps unknowingly, was

1407
01:18:32,720 --> 01:18:35,400
Speaker 1: this thing of like you're either a Will or a Jack.

1408
01:18:36,560 --> 01:18:40,360
Speaker 1: And because they were the only two real gay people

1409
01:18:40,479 --> 01:18:44,320
Speaker 1: on like mainstream network television, so it was like, you know,

1410
01:18:44,600 --> 01:18:46,519
Speaker 1: you know, people were getting asked by their aunts and

1411
01:18:46,640 --> 01:18:48,559
Speaker 1: uncles like that were coming if you were coming out

1412
01:18:48,560 --> 01:18:50,599
Speaker 1: of the closets or you were a Will or a Jack,

1413
01:18:50,840 --> 01:18:52,760
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like you're either this or

1414
01:18:52,800 --> 01:18:55,120
Speaker 1: you're that, or you're either a man like a woman.

1415
01:18:55,760 --> 01:18:57,880
Speaker 1: And because I think it was so important to the

1416
01:18:57,920 --> 01:19:00,880
Speaker 1: comedy of that show that we had that duality, like

1417
01:19:01,080 --> 01:19:05,639
Speaker 1: it just ended up yeah, I know you mean. Also,

1418
01:19:05,880 --> 01:19:09,600
Speaker 1: it also kind of bothered me that Will like he never, like,

1419
01:19:10,080 --> 01:19:13,400
Speaker 1: I don't think his relationships were ever explored as deeply

1420
01:19:13,600 --> 01:19:16,200
Speaker 1: as Graces were. And that always bothered me because I

1421
01:19:16,360 --> 01:19:19,280
Speaker 1: was like I and Debor Messing was like a goddess

1422
01:19:19,320 --> 01:19:21,519
Speaker 1: on that show. She was like hysterical, but I'm like,

1423
01:19:22,280 --> 01:19:25,160
Speaker 1: I just like Eric McCormick, just you could see there

1424
01:19:25,280 --> 01:19:27,639
Speaker 1: was so much she could do if they just gave

1425
01:19:27,720 --> 01:19:31,320
Speaker 1: him like a really needy, substantial relationship, and they didn't

1426
01:19:32,040 --> 01:19:36,679
Speaker 1: do that. Also, McCormick is a straight man. And that's

1427
01:19:36,720 --> 01:19:39,400
Speaker 1: also another thing is it's just like you know again,

1428
01:19:39,600 --> 01:19:43,360
Speaker 1: like and that you know, it's not too long ago

1429
01:19:43,680 --> 01:19:46,720
Speaker 1: that we were like, don't worry, he's actually straight, and

1430
01:19:46,760 --> 01:19:51,759
Speaker 1: real life like, don't worry, audiences of America, he's actually straight.

1431
01:19:52,479 --> 01:19:55,680
Speaker 1: It's funny. And also Sean Hayes was saying he was

1432
01:19:55,680 --> 01:19:57,920
Speaker 1: straight at the time. I know, and that that's crazy.

1433
01:19:58,000 --> 01:20:00,800
Speaker 1: But it's also like I don't know what I would

1434
01:20:00,840 --> 01:20:04,160
Speaker 1: do and position at that time. It's like really hard.

1435
01:20:05,200 --> 01:20:07,800
Speaker 1: It was probably wasn't just his decision, did you like

1436
01:20:08,360 --> 01:20:10,760
Speaker 1: I loved well and grace and um, but I'm but yeah,

1437
01:20:10,840 --> 01:20:12,880
Speaker 1: thinking about Shawn Hay's it's like he probably had his

1438
01:20:13,240 --> 01:20:17,320
Speaker 1: raps being like you cannot absolutely it didn't matter that

1439
01:20:17,400 --> 01:20:20,120
Speaker 1: he played like the gayest of all gay caricatures. It

1440
01:20:20,200 --> 01:20:22,840
Speaker 1: was still going to be a bad situation that he

1441
01:20:22,960 --> 01:20:26,439
Speaker 1: was Yeah, totally totally. Um. Before we move on to

1442
01:20:26,479 --> 01:20:29,479
Speaker 1: I don't think so honey, phoebe Um, can we just

1443
01:20:29,720 --> 01:20:32,760
Speaker 1: have a general convo how how how are you so

1444
01:20:32,880 --> 01:20:35,240
Speaker 1: excited for I lived, Dick? Are you so excited for Portlandia?

1445
01:20:35,320 --> 01:20:37,760
Speaker 1: Like what's what's what's what's like coming down the pike

1446
01:20:37,840 --> 01:20:40,000
Speaker 1: that you want to talk about. Yeah, so I Loved

1447
01:20:40,040 --> 01:20:42,160
Speaker 1: Dick comes out May twelve. I don't know if this

1448
01:20:42,280 --> 01:20:45,840
Speaker 1: is going up before or after that, probably right around

1449
01:20:45,880 --> 01:20:51,479
Speaker 1: that really excited Kevin Bacon, Katherine Haky. Katherine is amazing,

1450
01:20:51,680 --> 01:20:57,360
Speaker 1: so sweet, and Kevin is just like he's like the night. Yeah.

1451
01:20:57,840 --> 01:21:00,879
Speaker 1: I just laughed because I like would avoid I contact

1452
01:21:00,920 --> 01:21:03,760
Speaker 1: with him so much. That was so intimidated by him,

1453
01:21:03,800 --> 01:21:05,840
Speaker 1: and like now I'm like, oh, that's kind of a

1454
01:21:06,000 --> 01:21:09,240
Speaker 1: person like saying. I was like, he's so cool and

1455
01:21:09,479 --> 01:21:12,080
Speaker 1: funny and like really good at his job and like

1456
01:21:12,280 --> 01:21:14,120
Speaker 1: he's hot, and I was like, I'm just going to

1457
01:21:14,400 --> 01:21:18,240
Speaker 1: go be a comedian the corner. He's an amazing actor.

1458
01:21:18,400 --> 01:21:22,120
Speaker 1: He's so good and everyone says how wonderful he is

1459
01:21:22,240 --> 01:21:24,599
Speaker 1: just to be around, and what a good person he is. Yeah,

1460
01:21:24,880 --> 01:21:26,960
Speaker 1: I think when you've been famous for that longer, like

1461
01:21:27,200 --> 01:21:31,960
Speaker 1: I don't care that I'm famous, like living my life. Yeah.

1462
01:21:32,360 --> 01:21:34,800
Speaker 1: And they raised an amazing daughter, Socie, who's my friend.

1463
01:21:36,640 --> 01:21:39,840
Speaker 1: I love her and she's on thirteen Reasons Why, and

1464
01:21:39,920 --> 01:21:44,320
Speaker 1: everyone should watch Reasons. The show's heavy. I hear it's

1465
01:21:44,600 --> 01:21:46,679
Speaker 1: a very rough and a friend of mine, Julia mcnell

1466
01:21:46,760 --> 01:21:48,640
Speaker 1: writes on and I shout out. Julia writes on it,

1467
01:21:48,840 --> 01:21:51,639
Speaker 1: Oh that's so cool, but I heard it's very yeah,

1468
01:21:52,840 --> 01:21:58,120
Speaker 1: but also but also good. Sometimes we need to talk

1469
01:21:58,120 --> 01:22:01,920
Speaker 1: about it. Oh my god, what's Jill like? Cute? She's

1470
01:22:02,120 --> 01:22:05,000
Speaker 1: like really cool and funny and sweet and like she's

1471
01:22:05,520 --> 01:22:08,480
Speaker 1: she's a genius, Like she's really able to like pinpoint

1472
01:22:08,600 --> 01:22:10,439
Speaker 1: how to make something better and you're just like, WHOA,

1473
01:22:10,479 --> 01:22:13,320
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be like that, you know at her age

1474
01:22:13,439 --> 01:22:17,200
Speaker 1: and Portland is great to like. Fred and Carry are

1475
01:22:17,280 --> 01:22:20,599
Speaker 1: just so funny and really sweet and they're great leaders.

1476
01:22:21,120 --> 01:22:23,920
Speaker 1: I just really feel like this year I'm just able

1477
01:22:24,080 --> 01:22:26,680
Speaker 1: to work with people who were just really there's like

1478
01:22:26,760 --> 01:22:30,000
Speaker 1: no bullshit, there's no drama. Everyone is just like we're

1479
01:22:30,040 --> 01:22:32,479
Speaker 1: here to do a job and it's fun and then

1480
01:22:32,520 --> 01:22:35,479
Speaker 1: we can go home. And I like that great to

1481
01:22:35,600 --> 01:22:39,400
Speaker 1: just not be disappointed by those people that you have

1482
01:22:39,520 --> 01:22:41,040
Speaker 1: looked up to and have to look up to you

1483
01:22:41,040 --> 01:22:44,240
Speaker 1: in a professional setting. Yeah, they're just like facilitating your

1484
01:22:44,280 --> 01:22:47,720
Speaker 1: growth and your success. That's awesome. Yeah. So it's been good.

1485
01:22:47,800 --> 01:22:53,000
Speaker 1: And I just sold my second book. We're just saying, yeah,

1486
01:22:54,160 --> 01:22:56,800
Speaker 1: can you tease? Well, it's going to be another essay

1487
01:22:56,880 --> 01:23:09,760
Speaker 1: collection one one essay, it's called white Nonsense. So um,

1488
01:23:09,800 --> 01:23:11,439
Speaker 1: I think it's going to be super fun. We're trying

1489
01:23:11,439 --> 01:23:14,639
Speaker 1: to figure out a title right now, and yeah, I'm

1490
01:23:14,640 --> 01:23:17,640
Speaker 1: gonna start writing it. I guess next month. This is

1491
01:23:17,680 --> 01:23:19,240
Speaker 1: why I'm single. I'm like, I'm just going to keep

1492
01:23:19,280 --> 01:23:24,040
Speaker 1: working and like, hopefully my husband will find me. Yeah, honestly,

1493
01:23:24,120 --> 01:23:26,840
Speaker 1: it is. It has happened, It's happening. I just don't

1494
01:23:26,840 --> 01:23:29,320
Speaker 1: want to be like Katherine Heigl in Seven Dresses. No,

1495
01:23:30,080 --> 01:23:32,839
Speaker 1: but then she ended up. Who was the James Marson

1496
01:23:36,720 --> 01:23:38,920
Speaker 1: He's the one. He's the one because he can act,

1497
01:23:39,000 --> 01:23:43,280
Speaker 1: he can see, he can dance, Oh my god. Honestly,

1498
01:23:43,680 --> 01:23:48,679
Speaker 1: he's the kind of guy that you know, smells good. Yes, yes,

1499
01:23:49,240 --> 01:23:54,000
Speaker 1: I agree with absolutely absolutely Last World that I haven't

1500
01:23:54,080 --> 01:23:58,320
Speaker 1: seen it yet, recommend. The first few episodes are hard

1501
01:23:59,240 --> 01:24:02,800
Speaker 1: because some feasing or no in terms of this subject matter,

1502
01:24:02,880 --> 01:24:06,160
Speaker 1: it's like, fuck, it's like another HBO show. There's going

1503
01:24:06,200 --> 01:24:08,680
Speaker 1: to be another HBO show, which is but then that

1504
01:24:09,000 --> 01:24:10,960
Speaker 1: flips it on its head and actually becomes about that

1505
01:24:11,760 --> 01:24:15,240
Speaker 1: and it's amazing. Again it's West World. And I have

1506
01:24:15,400 --> 01:24:19,200
Speaker 1: to give big ups to HBO because they have kind

1507
01:24:19,240 --> 01:24:23,640
Speaker 1: of taking this criticism that's like, Yo, a lot of

1508
01:24:23,720 --> 01:24:26,080
Speaker 1: women get raped and murdered and beat up in your shows,

1509
01:24:26,160 --> 01:24:29,200
Speaker 1: and they've kind of really taken that narrative and now

1510
01:24:29,320 --> 01:24:33,439
Speaker 1: they make shows that are about that. But it's it

1511
01:24:33,600 --> 01:24:37,519
Speaker 1: really um kind of just make society look at itself

1512
01:24:37,840 --> 01:24:41,240
Speaker 1: like big what Big Little Lies did? Like where where

1513
01:24:41,760 --> 01:24:43,720
Speaker 1: you know, people ask what is that show about? And

1514
01:24:43,880 --> 01:24:46,160
Speaker 1: you start describing it and everyone's like, that sounds like

1515
01:24:46,240 --> 01:24:48,880
Speaker 1: every other stupid show about like rich white women like

1516
01:24:49,320 --> 01:24:51,280
Speaker 1: fighting with each other. But really it's a show about

1517
01:24:51,360 --> 01:24:54,000
Speaker 1: domestic violence and how that ripples through a community and

1518
01:24:54,040 --> 01:24:57,040
Speaker 1: affects everyone. For the worst. West World is about like

1519
01:24:57,560 --> 01:25:01,320
Speaker 1: how violence is entertainment and it's specially violence against women

1520
01:25:01,360 --> 01:25:04,400
Speaker 1: as entertainment and what that does to the psyche and

1521
01:25:04,560 --> 01:25:08,559
Speaker 1: where it could lead and and it's and it's really Yeah,

1522
01:25:08,720 --> 01:25:13,679
Speaker 1: that sounds really fascinating, and it's also extremely well done.

1523
01:25:14,600 --> 01:25:17,759
Speaker 1: And probably maybe the best performance on television is Tandy

1524
01:25:17,800 --> 01:25:25,519
Speaker 1: Newton Tandy's it. Do you think that she should win?

1525
01:25:26,880 --> 01:25:29,120
Speaker 1: So they will be in different categories than all the

1526
01:25:29,160 --> 01:25:32,240
Speaker 1: big Little Lives ladies? And yes, I do absolutely. Although

1527
01:25:32,360 --> 01:25:36,240
Speaker 1: she's being she's this is breaking tea news, she's being

1528
01:25:36,360 --> 01:25:41,479
Speaker 1: campaigned as a lead actress in Westworld, and she's not

1529
01:25:42,439 --> 01:25:45,040
Speaker 1: the lead actress of the show, and she could flat

1530
01:25:45,120 --> 01:25:48,360
Speaker 1: out win the supporting actress category, but the best actress

1531
01:25:48,400 --> 01:25:51,080
Speaker 1: category is kind of being swept up by Claire Foy

1532
01:25:51,320 --> 01:25:55,080
Speaker 1: from The Crown. So I haven't seen it because I'm

1533
01:25:55,160 --> 01:25:59,160
Speaker 1: so bored of old British It's Nicole kidman, except it's

1534
01:25:59,160 --> 01:26:02,840
Speaker 1: an old British man. Yeah, so I think she's being

1535
01:26:03,000 --> 01:26:05,599
Speaker 1: she's being put in the wrong category, but I think

1536
01:26:05,640 --> 01:26:08,080
Speaker 1: that she's she should be showering around boards. There you go,

1537
01:26:08,520 --> 01:26:11,400
Speaker 1: you gotta and Tandy Newton has been people talk about

1538
01:26:11,439 --> 01:26:13,880
Speaker 1: people like sleeping on Laura durn like sleeping on it.

1539
01:26:14,040 --> 01:26:17,200
Speaker 1: You we've been sleeping on that's gonna be why. I

1540
01:26:17,200 --> 01:26:20,400
Speaker 1: don't think so, honey. That's the first one I've revealed

1541
01:26:20,439 --> 01:26:23,360
Speaker 1: my I don't think so, Honny it. But Phoebe, we're

1542
01:26:23,400 --> 01:26:26,240
Speaker 1: just saying it's happening for you and not necessarily for

1543
01:26:26,400 --> 01:26:29,680
Speaker 1: like someone to come and like like be your s O.

1544
01:26:30,120 --> 01:26:32,120
Speaker 1: We're just saying, like, you're doing so much, it's so cool,

1545
01:26:32,200 --> 01:26:35,479
Speaker 1: it's so inspiring to watch. We love you so much

1546
01:26:36,000 --> 01:26:38,960
Speaker 1: because you're a true creative powerhouse. I just want to

1547
01:26:39,000 --> 01:26:42,000
Speaker 1: have an empire and create my own shows and health

1548
01:26:42,040 --> 01:26:44,360
Speaker 1: facilitate other people to create their ship. And I just

1549
01:26:44,520 --> 01:26:47,519
Speaker 1: go back and sit back, like you just go crushing ye,

1550
01:26:48,200 --> 01:26:50,960
Speaker 1: like I know the beautiful ripple effect. I love that.

1551
01:26:52,360 --> 01:26:54,719
Speaker 1: I don't it's time for I don't think so honey.

1552
01:26:54,800 --> 01:26:57,479
Speaker 1: And of course, Phoebe recently did Our Lives show, which

1553
01:26:57,640 --> 01:27:00,760
Speaker 1: was so fun. That was all my period. I was

1554
01:27:00,920 --> 01:27:04,599
Speaker 1: so tired. I'm so sorry, but that's why that's why

1555
01:27:04,640 --> 01:27:07,120
Speaker 1: I left. I was watched all the end. But then

1556
01:27:07,160 --> 01:27:11,840
Speaker 1: I got into a lift immediately like look, no, no,

1557
01:27:11,960 --> 01:27:14,120
Speaker 1: you gotta go when you got to thank you so

1558
01:27:14,240 --> 01:27:16,400
Speaker 1: much for doing that. That was so so so great

1559
01:27:16,439 --> 01:27:18,800
Speaker 1: of you and iconic. I don't think so honey about

1560
01:27:19,120 --> 01:27:21,880
Speaker 1: women who put their braids up in a tall bun.

1561
01:27:22,960 --> 01:27:26,040
Speaker 1: It's so infuriating. It's like, I can't see this concert.

1562
01:27:26,560 --> 01:27:29,240
Speaker 1: No you can't, you can't come on. Just just think

1563
01:27:29,280 --> 01:27:31,719
Speaker 1: you think of the people around you, get the eyeline

1564
01:27:31,720 --> 01:27:33,439
Speaker 1: around you. Know what I just changed. I'm not going

1565
01:27:33,520 --> 01:27:35,600
Speaker 1: to do people who come frot handing because I just

1566
01:27:35,760 --> 01:27:38,000
Speaker 1: I just told you that you should be ashamed. I

1567
01:27:38,080 --> 01:27:40,240
Speaker 1: have someone else here. We go, you go first, because

1568
01:27:40,240 --> 01:27:42,479
Speaker 1: I'm still thinking I'm gonna go first. Matt Rodgers. I

1569
01:27:42,520 --> 01:27:44,599
Speaker 1: don't think so, honey. Time starts now. I don't think

1570
01:27:44,640 --> 01:27:47,400
Speaker 1: so honey, John Mayor, I don't care about your new album.

1571
01:27:47,760 --> 01:27:52,240
Speaker 1: You're disrespectful. You're very disrespectful. I don't care about about

1572
01:27:52,280 --> 01:27:54,639
Speaker 1: you and your music. I don't care about your winey

1573
01:27:54,760 --> 01:27:57,160
Speaker 1: ass was you have a low wine to your voice.

1574
01:27:57,400 --> 01:28:00,519
Speaker 1: You think that you're Bob Dylan. No, you know what, Honestly,

1575
01:28:00,680 --> 01:28:04,080
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey. You being disrespectful to women,

1576
01:28:04,120 --> 01:28:06,400
Speaker 1: you spilled all the tea about women you've slept with.

1577
01:28:06,800 --> 01:28:09,479
Speaker 1: You are the equivalent of that person on Facebook who

1578
01:28:09,600 --> 01:28:12,920
Speaker 1: just wants the likes. You posted garbage, and you've been

1579
01:28:12,960 --> 01:28:16,040
Speaker 1: posting the same ship all the dude on day and

1580
01:28:16,520 --> 01:28:19,280
Speaker 1: you just you expect to get likes for it. Look,

1581
01:28:20,040 --> 01:28:21,880
Speaker 1: I can listen to this album right now. It could

1582
01:28:21,920 --> 01:28:24,599
Speaker 1: sound the same fucking ship as Continuum, And that's literally

1583
01:28:24,720 --> 01:28:28,439
Speaker 1: the only other album from Not True Room for Squares.

1584
01:28:30,160 --> 01:28:32,519
Speaker 1: John Mayer, I don't think some honey, you don't bring enough.

1585
01:28:32,640 --> 01:28:34,840
Speaker 1: I think you're seven out of town in terms of looks.

1586
01:28:35,040 --> 01:28:36,880
Speaker 1: It could be better if I want to listen to

1587
01:28:36,960 --> 01:28:41,880
Speaker 1: someone's strumma guitar, bring Jackson Moras, where are you at,

1588
01:28:42,080 --> 01:28:44,680
Speaker 1: Jackson Morra? I don't think so, Honey, John Mayer. I

1589
01:28:44,800 --> 01:28:48,920
Speaker 1: think so Jason Morra. And that's the one minute that

1590
01:28:49,200 --> 01:28:54,280
Speaker 1: was so good. I don't care about that. Continuum is

1591
01:28:54,400 --> 01:29:00,760
Speaker 1: so good. Continue album. I'll be okay. Really it's really good.

1592
01:29:01,960 --> 01:29:04,600
Speaker 1: But he is trash. He is true trash, and he

1593
01:29:04,960 --> 01:29:08,760
Speaker 1: was a racist piece of ship Tom and Johnny. That's true.

1594
01:29:09,640 --> 01:29:12,360
Speaker 1: He was. Camille tweeted this whole thing. You have to

1595
01:29:12,439 --> 01:29:15,760
Speaker 1: look it up. He because John Marred dabbles in stand

1596
01:29:15,840 --> 01:29:18,960
Speaker 1: up I guess hard passed, and like, oh he doesn't dabble.

1597
01:29:19,000 --> 01:29:20,640
Speaker 1: He's gone out and done it. He's done it. And

1598
01:29:20,720 --> 01:29:22,280
Speaker 1: then like he and Kamil are on the same bill

1599
01:29:22,360 --> 01:29:24,200
Speaker 1: when night. Isn't that the stupidest thing you've ever heard?

1600
01:29:24,800 --> 01:29:26,840
Speaker 1: But then like after the show, like I don't know

1601
01:29:26,960 --> 01:29:29,040
Speaker 1: what instigated it, but like they got into like a

1602
01:29:29,120 --> 01:29:32,400
Speaker 1: full on like war of words and like just fucking

1603
01:29:32,800 --> 01:29:35,000
Speaker 1: they got into it. So look that up. It's so

1604
01:29:35,120 --> 01:29:38,640
Speaker 1: distanct don't to go out and describe what sex was

1605
01:29:38,760 --> 01:29:43,160
Speaker 1: like with people, and everyone knows he but not that

1606
01:29:43,640 --> 01:29:47,320
Speaker 1: he explicitly described sex with people that like and like

1607
01:29:47,400 --> 01:29:50,720
Speaker 1: they weren't I don't know it was. That's a form

1608
01:29:50,760 --> 01:29:54,160
Speaker 1: of harassment. And also like then he got all pissed

1609
01:29:54,200 --> 01:29:56,960
Speaker 1: because Taylor Swift wrote like an indirect song about him.

1610
01:29:57,000 --> 01:30:00,800
Speaker 1: It's like please, he said, and spin don't act like

1611
01:30:00,880 --> 01:30:04,200
Speaker 1: you weren't on Howard Stern, like spilling the tea, like

1612
01:30:04,680 --> 01:30:06,479
Speaker 1: I don't like hypocrites. And he gets away with it

1613
01:30:06,560 --> 01:30:10,760
Speaker 1: because he's like a straight white dude. Sure, I mean

1614
01:30:10,840 --> 01:30:13,680
Speaker 1: I think for sure absolutely. Are you racking your brain

1615
01:30:13,720 --> 01:30:16,920
Speaker 1: trying to think you have a couple? You have to

1616
01:30:16,960 --> 01:30:21,519
Speaker 1: decide yeah, okay, okay, I don't come over you and

1617
01:30:21,560 --> 01:30:24,920
Speaker 1: you were just like, oh my god. He has fingers

1618
01:30:24,960 --> 01:30:31,800
Speaker 1: to temples and extremely amazing beautiful manicure white. Okay, so

1619
01:30:31,920 --> 01:30:36,880
Speaker 1: this is inspired by Christianner. She paints her nails white.

1620
01:30:37,200 --> 01:30:39,560
Speaker 1: I saw some keeping with the Kardashians. It's like the

1621
01:30:39,720 --> 01:30:42,840
Speaker 1: one super trash thing that I watched and I was like,

1622
01:30:42,880 --> 01:30:45,000
Speaker 1: I want to try this. This is the only thing

1623
01:30:45,080 --> 01:30:47,640
Speaker 1: from the Kardashian life I want to try and I

1624
01:30:47,800 --> 01:30:51,000
Speaker 1: like it. It works so well, maybe I need a

1625
01:30:51,080 --> 01:30:57,800
Speaker 1: lip Cattie. She's too much? Is that these are? And

1626
01:30:57,840 --> 01:31:02,240
Speaker 1: also is this a print pin it? I thought it

1627
01:31:02,360 --> 01:31:06,080
Speaker 1: from wild Fank dot com. They're a feminist clothing apparel.

1628
01:31:06,520 --> 01:31:11,439
Speaker 1: Check them out. It's time, Bowen, I don't have anything

1629
01:31:11,520 --> 01:31:12,840
Speaker 1: with solid Well, you're gonna you want me to go

1630
01:31:12,920 --> 01:31:15,320
Speaker 1: into the trouball. No, no, no, go into the trouball. Yes,

1631
01:31:15,960 --> 01:31:18,160
Speaker 1: so everyone, But when I decided that it's times, are

1632
01:31:18,200 --> 01:31:21,280
Speaker 1: going to the trouball, of course, the trouball is um

1633
01:31:21,520 --> 01:31:25,400
Speaker 1: our pot pourri of pop culture topics. And he has

1634
01:31:25,479 --> 01:31:27,680
Speaker 1: to go negative on whatever I choose right now. And

1635
01:31:27,760 --> 01:31:31,160
Speaker 1: these are all universally loved in general university loved things.

1636
01:31:31,240 --> 01:31:32,840
Speaker 1: I really want to find something good. I want to

1637
01:31:32,880 --> 01:31:36,320
Speaker 1: find something that comes out of nowhere. Okay, okay, here

1638
01:31:36,360 --> 01:31:39,040
Speaker 1: we go, all right, Bowen yang your I don't think so,

1639
01:31:39,240 --> 01:31:43,160
Speaker 1: honey is about Mrs Claus and it starts now. I

1640
01:31:43,200 --> 01:31:46,160
Speaker 1: don't think so honey, misses Clause and whoever invented you,

1641
01:31:46,560 --> 01:31:51,160
Speaker 1: whatever fucking norse idiot invented you and Mrs Claus to

1642
01:31:51,240 --> 01:31:54,000
Speaker 1: be a feminized version of Santa Claus used at home

1643
01:31:54,080 --> 01:31:57,080
Speaker 1: being domestic as fuck. Look, I am third weighte feminist, honey,

1644
01:31:57,320 --> 01:31:59,360
Speaker 1: Yes I am, but I don't appreciate you just sitting

1645
01:31:59,360 --> 01:32:01,760
Speaker 1: at home and not rocking chair, knitting or whatever the

1646
01:32:01,960 --> 01:32:05,080
Speaker 1: fuck you're doing, Mrs Cloth. I don't think somebody, Mrs Clause,

1647
01:32:05,120 --> 01:32:06,640
Speaker 1: what are you doing the rest of the year when

1648
01:32:06,720 --> 01:32:10,879
Speaker 1: it's not Christmas? You better be reading some fucking Joan Didion.

1649
01:32:11,200 --> 01:32:14,360
Speaker 1: You better be reading some rock sand gay. I don't care,

1650
01:32:14,720 --> 01:32:19,479
Speaker 1: just better you. You better be reading and come correct

1651
01:32:19,800 --> 01:32:23,680
Speaker 1: to the Santa Claus and to teach him to be

1652
01:32:24,479 --> 01:32:27,759
Speaker 1: a better human being. I don't think somebody, Mrs Clause,

1653
01:32:28,080 --> 01:32:30,839
Speaker 1: where are you? We need to see you surface yourself.

1654
01:32:31,479 --> 01:32:34,520
Speaker 1: Where are you, Mrs Clause? We need more female representation

1655
01:32:34,640 --> 01:32:37,360
Speaker 1: during the holidays, And I don't think somebody you stay

1656
01:32:37,640 --> 01:32:42,240
Speaker 1: stay just sitting in front of the fucking uh fireplace

1657
01:32:42,360 --> 01:32:44,519
Speaker 1: mantle and just thinking that you can just get away

1658
01:32:44,560 --> 01:32:49,479
Speaker 1: with just being domestic as fun. You asked where are you?

1659
01:32:52,520 --> 01:32:54,120
Speaker 1: We know where she is, but I'm saying, where is she?

1660
01:32:54,200 --> 01:32:58,599
Speaker 1: In the conversation. We don't talk about her, Okay, alrighty,

1661
01:32:59,560 --> 01:33:03,439
Speaker 1: welcome is obviously high. This is like so scary, No,

1662
01:33:03,520 --> 01:33:05,519
Speaker 1: you're gonna pull that right over there. But it's like

1663
01:33:05,680 --> 01:33:07,840
Speaker 1: so scary, No, it's not scary, phobe. You're gonna nail

1664
01:33:07,840 --> 01:33:10,040
Speaker 1: You nailed it the first time you've done this before. Dope,

1665
01:33:10,120 --> 01:33:13,519
Speaker 1: Queen fee but also the track this is, I don't

1666
01:33:13,520 --> 01:33:16,040
Speaker 1: Phoebe Robinson's I don't think so, honey. Time starts now,

1667
01:33:16,640 --> 01:33:19,439
Speaker 1: I don't think so. Lift drivers who are not based

1668
01:33:19,520 --> 01:33:21,439
Speaker 1: in New York do not ask me to sit in

1669
01:33:21,560 --> 01:33:25,599
Speaker 1: the front passenger seat with you. They are not driving

1670
01:33:25,680 --> 01:33:29,960
Speaker 1: to Coachella together. Hi, I'm trying to go home and

1671
01:33:30,040 --> 01:33:35,080
Speaker 1: take this plan b pill. Okay. Also, learn how to

1672
01:33:35,160 --> 01:33:39,639
Speaker 1: pronounce my name. Don't say Phoebe and it's Bob. I've

1673
01:33:39,680 --> 01:33:42,719
Speaker 1: been on charm, Phoebe from Charmed, Phoebe from Friends, Phoebe

1674
01:33:42,800 --> 01:33:52,120
Speaker 1: from Catcher and the Raight honey. Also what also, hey,

1675
01:33:52,200 --> 01:33:57,200
Speaker 1: you're you're fucking like music choice. It's just Ryan Seacrass

1676
01:33:57,280 --> 01:34:02,439
Speaker 1: and Jason Derulo fucking ain't smokers, honey. I don't think

1677
01:34:02,520 --> 01:34:05,639
Speaker 1: so paris, I don't think so closer. I am done.

1678
01:34:06,880 --> 01:34:11,320
Speaker 1: I cannot so. I can't also cannot with the Please

1679
01:34:11,400 --> 01:34:14,040
Speaker 1: rate me five stars, bitch, I will rate you what

1680
01:34:14,200 --> 01:34:18,400
Speaker 1: I want to rate you. Get out my life. Oh

1681
01:34:18,520 --> 01:34:23,320
Speaker 1: my god, you spoke for us all and you threw

1682
01:34:23,400 --> 01:34:25,640
Speaker 1: in there and I don't think so honey. For the

1683
01:34:25,800 --> 01:34:28,000
Speaker 1: chain smokers, oh my god, I'm so done with the

1684
01:34:28,040 --> 01:34:31,479
Speaker 1: chain smokers. I was never started to them for like

1685
01:34:31,680 --> 01:34:33,680
Speaker 1: a solid two months, and I was like, oh no,

1686
01:34:34,120 --> 01:34:38,240
Speaker 1: I got I got duped I got you got dukes there. Yeah,

1687
01:34:38,400 --> 01:34:44,320
Speaker 1: they're like they're just like bros. Yeah, imagine to John Mayers,

1688
01:34:44,360 --> 01:34:47,639
Speaker 1: who can like use garage band. I just actually actually,

1689
01:34:48,200 --> 01:34:50,479
Speaker 1: I mean actually I'm dead now. I just jumped out

1690
01:34:50,479 --> 01:34:53,439
Speaker 1: the way. Okay, Oh my god, you guys, this has

1691
01:34:53,479 --> 01:34:59,639
Speaker 1: been such a good episode to Oh, come on, what's

1692
01:34:59,680 --> 01:35:02,040
Speaker 1: coming and we just want to hang with you. Well,

1693
01:35:02,120 --> 01:35:04,120
Speaker 1: let's when we all are back in New York. Can

1694
01:35:04,160 --> 01:35:06,639
Speaker 1: we just do a fun slumber party? Not at my apartment,

1695
01:35:06,720 --> 01:35:12,759
Speaker 1: says I look far away. Oh god, we love listen.

1696
01:35:13,280 --> 01:35:15,760
Speaker 1: Phoebe has so much coming up, so you're going to

1697
01:35:15,800 --> 01:35:17,360
Speaker 1: see her everywhere and don't worry about that. And I

1698
01:35:17,439 --> 01:35:19,000
Speaker 1: think this is going to be premiering right for the

1699
01:35:19,040 --> 01:35:22,719
Speaker 1: show I Love Dick on Amazon. Please watch it, Please

1700
01:35:22,920 --> 01:35:26,680
Speaker 1: rate it. Jill Soloway, Kevin Bacon, Catherine Han and me

1701
01:35:26,880 --> 01:35:31,920
Speaker 1: with my small lines you honestly, we cannot wait. Guys.

1702
01:35:32,560 --> 01:35:34,760
Speaker 1: This has been the last culture this podcast. And next

1703
01:35:34,800 --> 01:35:37,160
Speaker 1: to next to me is Matt Roger. In front of

1704
01:35:37,200 --> 01:35:39,240
Speaker 1: us is Phoebe Robinson. This has been so fun. Thank you,

1705
01:35:39,320 --> 01:35:45,439
Speaker 1: Forever Dog. Thank you everybody. Why yay, Oh my god,

1706
01:35:47,400 --> 01:35:51,080
Speaker 1: my gosh. That is really good. Okay, so in Harry Potter.

1707
01:35:54,720 --> 01:35:58,000
Speaker 1: This has been a Forever Dog production, executive produced by

1708
01:35:58,080 --> 01:36:02,080
Speaker 1: Joe Cilio, Alex Ramsay and bread Bone. For more podcasts,

1709
01:36:02,160 --> 01:36:07,439
Speaker 1: please visit Trevor Dog Productions dot com. M h door

1710
01:36:09,360 --> 01:36:11,960
Speaker 1: h m hm