1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:04,040 Speaker 1: First Date is follow Up powered by the Advocates Injury 2 00:00:04,040 --> 00:00:06,640 Speaker 1: Attorneys online at advocatesla dot com. 3 00:00:07,080 --> 00:00:09,320 Speaker 2: Sabrina is on the phone today for a first date 4 00:00:09,400 --> 00:00:11,879 Speaker 2: follow up, and she's getting ghosted by a guy named 5 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:13,760 Speaker 2: Darren so in a few minutes. So we're gonna call 6 00:00:13,840 --> 00:00:16,120 Speaker 2: him and see if you'll tell us why he's ghostinger 7 00:00:16,200 --> 00:00:19,120 Speaker 2: and maybe get her another date. But first, Sabrina, how 8 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 2: long has it been since you heard from Darren? 9 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:24,880 Speaker 1: It's been about a week. Yeah, seventy is actually of 10 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:25,920 Speaker 1: digital silence. 11 00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 3: Have you reached out to him? 12 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:28,960 Speaker 2: Ah? 13 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:31,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, actually yesterday I did. I asked him if he 14 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:35,159 Speaker 1: wanted to get wine drunk and make bad decisions. But nothing. 15 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:39,160 Speaker 3: That's a great text. I love that, But okay, it'd 16 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:41,599 Speaker 3: be awesome text to get. Were there any other messages 17 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 3: he had sent before that one? 18 00:00:43,680 --> 00:00:47,280 Speaker 1: Yeah? Last week I texted him, like immediately after a date. 19 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 1: I said hey, I had a great time and asked 20 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:51,840 Speaker 1: if he wanted to do something again. 21 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:52,920 Speaker 4: But still nothing. 22 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 3: Oh why don't you tell us about the date? 23 00:00:55,960 --> 00:00:58,800 Speaker 1: So it went super cute. We went to post the 24 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:03,560 Speaker 1: place like that. I actually made homemade pasta and my god, 25 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:07,200 Speaker 1: the RIGATONI was to die for Yeah, he packed the 26 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:11,319 Speaker 1: spot out so points for great taste. He wore this 27 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:14,320 Speaker 1: button up that looks like he had ironed it, which 28 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:17,759 Speaker 1: is pretty rare these days. Like we talked for hours 29 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:20,400 Speaker 1: on top of that, Like he and I just went 30 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:24,200 Speaker 1: on and up until closing time. Like the server literally 31 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:28,480 Speaker 1: started vacuuming around us. Yeah, you know, I said like, 32 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:32,399 Speaker 1: let's maybe get up and go, and he kind of 33 00:01:32,440 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 1: didn't initiate it. But once we did walk to the 34 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:40,040 Speaker 1: parking garage together, I mean, we had this moment. I 35 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:42,880 Speaker 1: almost though he was going to kiss me, but he 36 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 1: just hugged me instead and like held me really tight 37 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:47,920 Speaker 1: for a moment and then said dry space. It was 38 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 1: really intentional. 39 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 3: Okay, did he say anything about seeing you again after that? 40 00:01:55,360 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 1: No, nothing really got broke, like brought up or planned. 41 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:04,720 Speaker 1: You know, It's just kind of I felt we left 42 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:05,560 Speaker 1: on a great note. 43 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, and then just nothing after the date. 44 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:15,079 Speaker 1: Yeah. I like we did great turn taking with talking 45 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:19,800 Speaker 1: and I just felt like, okay, I felt like the 46 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:22,880 Speaker 1: ball was in his court after he said drive space, 47 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:25,880 Speaker 1: Like okay, that kind of meant the follow up was 48 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:27,760 Speaker 1: to come the next day. But nothing. 49 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:29,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel that too. 50 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:31,400 Speaker 5: I mean it sounds like everything went really well, especially 51 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:33,359 Speaker 5: since you closed the restaurant down. I mean he could 52 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 5: have tried to leave at any time at that point. 53 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 5: Is there anything that could have happened? Though, that would 54 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 5: be the reason why he's ghosting you. 55 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 1: I have a tendency to overshare, like just a smidge. 56 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:51,000 Speaker 1: And we got on the topic of X's which I 57 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 1: didn't bring up, by the way, but I accidentally mentioned 58 00:02:56,120 --> 00:02:56,840 Speaker 1: to answer one. 59 00:02:56,720 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 6: Of his questions that I do have a tad too, 60 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:00,960 Speaker 6: and it's my X's name. 61 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:07,840 Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, totally due to a to kill the old weekend. 62 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 1: I mean, bad decisions all around. 63 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:13,840 Speaker 5: Because the only person that's accidentally gotten the wrong tattoo. 64 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:16,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it was right at the time, and I. 65 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:20,040 Speaker 1: Made it really clear to him that I hate that 66 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:22,760 Speaker 1: X right now and I'm in the process of getting 67 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:25,680 Speaker 1: it removed. I mean, I'm just not the type of 68 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 1: person that gets the name tattooed on them. But, like 69 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:32,360 Speaker 1: I said, bad decision. I feel pretty embarrassed by it. 70 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:34,880 Speaker 1: But I am also pretty embarrassed. I even like shared 71 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:35,400 Speaker 1: about it. 72 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 3: Okay, he's a cute little nugget. 73 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 5: You know, if you were to see parts of your 74 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:41,400 Speaker 5: body at some point and you find. 75 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:44,800 Speaker 1: It, right, I guess that's good. To be honest, it's 76 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 1: the best policy. 77 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, well we'll see if there's a tattoo that is 78 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 2: the reason you're getting ghosted. Well, play a son'll come 79 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 2: back and then call him and see if you'll tell 80 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 2: us why he's ghosting you. 81 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 3: And maybe it's your second day if you still want them. 82 00:03:55,160 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 1: Okay, all right, thank you? 83 00:03:56,880 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 2: Well, okay, well it's your first day follow up right 84 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 2: after this, in the middle of your first date follow up, 85 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 2: if you're just joining us. Sabrina is on the phone 86 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 2: and she's getting ghosted by a guy named Darren. So 87 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:08,120 Speaker 2: in a second we're gonna call him see if he'll 88 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:09,720 Speaker 2: tell us why he's ghosting her and maybe get her 89 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 2: a second date. But first, Sabrina, why don't you break 90 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 2: down your date again one more time? 91 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:18,160 Speaker 1: Yeah? I felt like it was a great date, and 92 00:04:18,520 --> 00:04:22,680 Speaker 1: we were talking until the restaurant was closing, I mean, 93 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 1: and had this moment outside in the parking garage. I 94 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:29,479 Speaker 1: just don't know what went wrong, other than I could 95 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 1: have possibly spilled too much about my tattoo that is 96 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:34,440 Speaker 1: of my ex's name. 97 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:36,360 Speaker 3: Would you care? 98 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:41,279 Speaker 2: Probably not. I don't think I would care. It depends 99 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 2: where the tattoo was, how big it was, you know, 100 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:44,160 Speaker 2: so you're not. 101 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:46,360 Speaker 3: Going to talk to Maybe that was a bad example. Yeah. 102 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:50,719 Speaker 2: I also can't judge because I have tattoos that yeah, 103 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:54,160 Speaker 2: so yeah, that I want to get rid of. But anyway, 104 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:56,520 Speaker 2: well we hope it's not that. Yeah, we'll see if 105 00:04:56,520 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 2: it is. 106 00:04:56,680 --> 00:04:56,919 Speaker 4: All right? 107 00:04:56,960 --> 00:04:58,240 Speaker 3: Are you ready for us to call him? 108 00:04:58,800 --> 00:04:59,080 Speaker 2: Yeah? 109 00:04:59,520 --> 00:04:59,839 Speaker 1: Definitely? 110 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:19,240 Speaker 3: Okay, here we go. Hello, Hi, man, I speak to 111 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 3: Darren please. 112 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:21,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, this is Darren. 113 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:23,800 Speaker 2: Hey, Darren, how are you. This is a radio show. 114 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:24,960 Speaker 2: It's called The Jewbill Show. 115 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:27,719 Speaker 3: Hi, Darren, Amina. Hi, I'm Victoria. My name is Jubel. 116 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:29,720 Speaker 4: Okay. 117 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:32,360 Speaker 3: Have you ever heard the show before? 118 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:35,920 Speaker 4: Yeah? Yeah, so I'm guessing this is about Sabrina. 119 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:38,840 Speaker 3: Huh, yes it is. It's the first date follow up. 120 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:41,240 Speaker 2: You know, the segment where if you go somebody, they 121 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:43,160 Speaker 2: can email us to call you and find out why 122 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:45,039 Speaker 2: are you ghosting them? Sabrina emailed us about you. We 123 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:48,320 Speaker 2: talked to her and she said that she thought everything 124 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:50,719 Speaker 2: was cool. She really liked you, but now you're ghosting her. 125 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:51,880 Speaker 2: Do you have a minute to tell us why? 126 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:55,799 Speaker 4: Yeah? She ate off my plate with her bare hands. 127 00:05:56,640 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 3: That's it. 128 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:01,280 Speaker 4: What do you mean that's it. Yeah, she reached across 129 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:04,520 Speaker 4: the table mid sentence, grabbed a meatball with their fingers 130 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:07,160 Speaker 4: and said just one bite, then popped it in her 131 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:09,120 Speaker 4: mouth like it was a tic tac and lick her fingers. 132 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:14,159 Speaker 3: She grabbed a meatball with her bare hands. Okay, gotta 133 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 3: love a meatball. That's enough to go somebody though. 134 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:20,560 Speaker 4: Uh for me, it was like watching someone Santa flight 135 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:23,359 Speaker 4: mid air, no warning, just boom ball gone. 136 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 3: Okay, hold me though, if you can do that, like, 137 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:29,320 Speaker 3: I mean, that's impressive to pop a meatball in your 138 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 3: mouth that quick. 139 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:33,280 Speaker 5: But Darian, she told us, you guys like hung out 140 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:35,719 Speaker 5: to the restaurant closed. Did you just I don't know, 141 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 5: decided to put that in the back of your mind 142 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:38,279 Speaker 5: until the end of the. 143 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:44,120 Speaker 4: Day, honestly, Yeah, because I wanted to dessert because she 144 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:45,360 Speaker 4: ate my food. 145 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:50,800 Speaker 2: Okay, okay, okay, And that's the only reason. 146 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:53,040 Speaker 3: Is the meatball tictac incident. 147 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:57,479 Speaker 4: You know, I feel like that's a pretty significant thing. 148 00:06:57,720 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 4: Like y'all don't think that's the big deal. 149 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:02,039 Speaker 2: I think I would be annoyed if somebody didn't ask 150 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:04,799 Speaker 2: and they just reached across and grabbed my off my plate. 151 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:07,680 Speaker 4: But not only did she not ask, she did it 152 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 4: with her bare hands. 153 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:11,200 Speaker 3: Maybe it's not really comfortable with you. 154 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:13,760 Speaker 4: I guess. But I didn't even know how to react. 155 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:16,160 Speaker 4: I just stared at my plate like it betrayed me. 156 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:19,440 Speaker 3: That's a good point. I don't know how I react either. 157 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 5: Like French fries, that's fine, like you assume people will 158 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:24,240 Speaker 5: grab those, But to take a meat ball with your fingers. 159 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 2: Meat ball is an interesting cho It's a little messy. 160 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:28,960 Speaker 4: I don't even want anyone touching my French fries. 161 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:33,160 Speaker 2: Darren, you might already know this, but Sabrina's on the 162 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:35,720 Speaker 2: phone and she has been listening and wants to talk 163 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 2: to you. 164 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:41,080 Speaker 1: Oh my god, Hi Darren, uh hey, Sabrina. 165 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:42,360 Speaker 4: Hey. 166 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 1: Like honestly, it was a me ball. That was the 167 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 1: that was the final trigger for you. 168 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:53,360 Speaker 4: Look you didn't even use a pork, You just counce 169 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:54,080 Speaker 4: like a lion. 170 00:07:56,520 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it was one met ball. 171 00:07:58,280 --> 00:08:01,800 Speaker 4: I was just being playful, thankful. You were shoveling food 172 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:02,920 Speaker 4: in your face like a caveman. 173 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:08,160 Speaker 1: Oh no, I was not. I was being like sexy 174 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:11,360 Speaker 1: with the meatball and drawing attention to my mouth with it. 175 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:14,160 Speaker 1: You got a caveman from that? 176 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 4: That was not sexy at all. That was probably the 177 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:18,160 Speaker 4: most unsexy thing I've ever seen. 178 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:23,440 Speaker 1: Are you not into girls? Because I would think any 179 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 1: guy would think that's sexy. 180 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 4: Look, I mean, I am in the girls, and you are. 181 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 4: You're beautiful and you're nice. But it was definitely a 182 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:38,000 Speaker 4: boundary violation. And honestly, I'd barely barely known you an 183 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:41,319 Speaker 4: hour and you were reaching across the table for my food. 184 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:48,080 Speaker 1: I mean, honestly, that's going far boundary violation. Like, come on, seriously, 185 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 1: it was just cute. I mean, if you need me too, 186 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:53,240 Speaker 1: I'll get you more. 187 00:08:53,559 --> 00:08:57,719 Speaker 4: Meanfalls, it's not about the meatball. It's about trust. It's 188 00:08:57,720 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 4: about Sabrina. 189 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:06,679 Speaker 1: And this is ridiculous hygiene Like, honestly, because I use 190 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:09,080 Speaker 1: my hands, they were clean and it was going into 191 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:12,440 Speaker 1: my mouth. There's nothing unhygienic about it. 192 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:17,120 Speaker 4: That's why we have forks. You didn't even use a fork? 193 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:19,439 Speaker 3: Would you still be ghosting? Or if she would have 194 00:09:19,520 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 3: used a fork instead of her hands. 195 00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:25,360 Speaker 4: Well, if she had asked first if she could have 196 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 4: a meatball and then use her fork, yeah, that would 197 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 4: be a totally different story. 198 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:32,559 Speaker 5: Wow, So if she promises to use forks from here on, out. 199 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:33,600 Speaker 5: Does that change that for you? 200 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:34,480 Speaker 3: Or is it correct? 201 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:38,679 Speaker 4: You know, I just have some trauma unpack with this stolen. 202 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:44,000 Speaker 2: Meata clearly, Hey, would you like another date with Sabrina? 203 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:46,600 Speaker 3: Will pay for it? Hmm? 204 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:49,440 Speaker 4: Let me think, Do I want to go on another 205 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 4: date with the woman who used her bare hands to 206 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:58,640 Speaker 4: grab food off of my plate, risking all sorts of 207 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:03,560 Speaker 4: dizzy to end end of the world Fiasca, now I'm good? 208 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:09,360 Speaker 3: No, no, Darren again. 209 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:11,720 Speaker 1: If it was the meatball, then good luck finding someone 210 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 1: who can handle your. 211 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 6: Deep emotions to use the need of having a fork 212 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:18,720 Speaker 6: used every time, and. 213 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:21,040 Speaker 4: Good luck learning how to use one. 214 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:25,960 Speaker 1: Ju Will's first date follow up