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Speaker 5: Yeah, you and I've already got people calling in, so

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Speaker 7: I thought Eric was a really funny, really good guy,

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Speaker 7: I think the hard thing I realized too, is like,

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Speaker 7: as I get older, I realized it must be really hard.

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Speaker 5: It is Tuesday here with ji Lette Stadium, and we're

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Speaker 5: in the midst of OTAs Rookie Mini camp.

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Speaker 8: We just saw the whole team as we were walking in.

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Speaker 7: They were coming off the field, so coming off either

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's miserable.

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Speaker 8: Nice to see the boys out there getting some working,

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Speaker 3: How's your music going?

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Speaker 1: How's your cousin?

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Speaker 3: Let's move on?

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Speaker 3: I guess we have some draft profiles going up on.

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Speaker 1: Good stuff going up.

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Speaker 5: You guys have been working on talking to the coach.

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Speaker 3: Welcome you to check those out on pat dot com.

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Speaker 5: Julian Edelman has been announced as the latest Patriots Hall

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Speaker 5: of Famer and very happy for him. Well deserved, but

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Speaker 5: I have to admit I voted for Adam Vinteri, and

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Speaker 5: I think he should have gone in first, not that

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Speaker 5: both of them aren't equally deserving, but just let's get

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Speaker 5: some of the older guys in. Uh but good for

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Speaker 5: good for Julian. That'll be fun. I don't know when

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Speaker 5: they're going to be having the induction ceremony, of course

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Speaker 5: is going to include Bill Parcells as well. Uh So

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Speaker 5: they'll have to figure out when the gonna do that.

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Speaker 5: Sometimes they do it in the summer around training camp

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Speaker 5: in or August. Sometimes they do it during the season.

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Speaker 1: Now that has to stay its own right again.

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Speaker 8: Are we're going back to in the atrium over there.

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Speaker 5: Just bang it out. You know, you've got the people

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Speaker 5: I think it's perfect, and you know it would be

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Speaker 7: Kronk will be here, ready to ready to party, and

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Speaker 8: So it's too bad you can't do.

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Speaker 5: His playoff performances speak for themselves. I mean, that's what

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Speaker 5: They might already be doing this, but here's what I'm

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, it just it is what it is.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so I don't know, like what what happened.

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Speaker 5: I I thought that the fans would I think the

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Speaker 3: A difference between me and you. I don't tell people

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Speaker 1: Like me, right, I did.

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Speaker 5: I thought that they would because I'm I'm I'm a fan,

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Speaker 4: Well, it's just a combination too of like fans that

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Speaker 5: Do you think as a fan of any team there's

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I would agree.

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Speaker 1: Like I'm not.

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Speaker 3: You know, But can I ask you a question, and

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Speaker 3: I'm not trying I'm not trying to start debate.

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Speaker 3: Do you think it's like ridiculous that Edelman got in

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Speaker 1: I don't think it's ridiculous. I don't think it's ridiculous.

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Speaker 3: I don't necessarily need to take shot. I mean, this

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Speaker 1: No, I'm not thinking shy.

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Speaker 3: But it's not And I'm not going to get disrespectful

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Speaker 5: No, and I'm not saying that the pro says should

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Speaker 5: You do that and then your team finally does have success,

442
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Speaker 5: then you look back at those people and they really

443
00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:25,040
Speaker 5: shouldn't be with these people, you know, So you have

444
00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:26,000
Speaker 5: to be careful about that.

445
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Speaker 4: It's crazy to think about it that way, Douce, because

446
00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:32,280
Speaker 4: we're arguing about two very worthy candidates. Other teams might

447
00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:34,560
Speaker 4: not have a single candidate that's worthy, so they just

448
00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:37,560
Speaker 4: skip it all together. But you know the point about

449
00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:40,800
Speaker 4: the history. I'm trying to catch up with Celtic City

450
00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:42,679
Speaker 4: and watch as much of it as I can, and

451
00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:44,640
Speaker 4: at some point I do hope that there's a version

452
00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:47,879
Speaker 4: of that for the Patriots where it truly takes you

453
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Speaker 4: through not the gossip and all that stuff, but the

454
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Speaker 4: actual football of it all.

455
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Speaker 1: You want a wedding video.

456
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Speaker 4: Yeah, And but like even like going back to like

457
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Speaker 4: John Hannah and you know, like the teams in the

458
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Speaker 4: seventies and things like that, because honestly, right now, there

459
00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:05,399
Speaker 4: isn't anything that really tells the story of like, you know,

460
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Speaker 4: I know that there were some really bad years, but

461
00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:09,840
Speaker 4: there are also years where they were a good team.

462
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Speaker 1: Those late seventies teams were roaded the right.

463
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Speaker 3: I would just push back and say, I really do

464
00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:17,280
Speaker 3: believe every team has one guy worthy of being in

465
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Speaker 3: the Hall of Fame every year.

466
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Speaker 1: Every year.

467
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Speaker 3: Yeah now, yeah, now, but the one exception I would

468
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Speaker 3: make is for newer franchises, Like if you've only been

469
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Speaker 3: around for fifteen to twenty years, you know the Texans

470
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Speaker 3: would go two. Okay, so maybe the Texans don't yet

471
00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:37,119
Speaker 3: have a guy, but teams that have been around for

472
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Speaker 3: fifty plus years have a guy. I mean, like, I

473
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Speaker 3: can give you guys that played in those teams that

474
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Speaker 3: aren't ever going to sniff the Hall of Fame that

475
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Speaker 3: are Hall of Fame worthy, Team hall of Fame worthy. Yeah, Like,

476
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Speaker 3: I think there's a difference. You've said this a lot, Fred,

477
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Speaker 3: and I agree with you. There's a difference between the

478
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Speaker 3: team Hall of Fame and greatness. Like the Pro Football

479
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Speaker 3: Hall of Fame is the great of the great right,

480
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Speaker 3: But like players like Fred Marion and Mosey Totupu and

481
00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:08,120
Speaker 3: you know, guys like that, they're worthy of a team

482
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Speaker 3: Hall of Fame record, Matthew Slater, those are team Hall

483
00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:14,480
Speaker 3: of Fame worthy players, even though that they're not right

484
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Speaker 3: the greats of the greats who have ever done a

485
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Speaker 3: football field, you know, Like, I think every team has that.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, but I see, I'm I I agree that the

487
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Speaker 5: criteria for teams different than pro but I still think

488
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Speaker 5: I'm still a small Hall guy even.

489
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Speaker 7: For team Well, he's just I mean, do you think

490
00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:33,720
Speaker 7: you're going to get to a place ever with the Patriots?

491
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Speaker 8: And granted they have a backlog.

492
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Speaker 3: Of where seven by the way.

493
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Speaker 7: But do you get to a point where you're kind

494
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Speaker 7: of saying yourself, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I feel like you know, I mean, unless you.

496
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Speaker 8: Bomer and you know at a.

497
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Speaker 3: Ship sales, there's two of those already in you.

498
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Speaker 1: I'll take I'll take the Jets for example.

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Speaker 5: Okay, so they won a Super Bowl back in sixty

500
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Speaker 5: nine or whatever it was, right, and they put web

501
00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:03,639
Speaker 5: U Bank, who was the coach, in their Hall of Fame,

502
00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:05,359
Speaker 5: you know, their Ring of Honor or whatever it is.

503
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Speaker 1: I don't think he should be. I really don't, you know,

504
00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:14,080
Speaker 1: you know, because like, okay, so he coached that team.

505
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Speaker 7: But other than that, like right, well, I mean, you know,

506
00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:18,840
Speaker 7: the Jets just a very little success.

507
00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:21,639
Speaker 5: Well that's even to the point like you can't force

508
00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:23,359
Speaker 5: feed it, you force feeded.

509
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Speaker 3: Like you tell me that they don't have fifty great

510
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Speaker 3: players in their history.

511
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Speaker 1: Well, I don't know. I haven't gone down their rosters

512
00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:30,520
Speaker 1: over the time, but probably not.

513
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Speaker 3: That's ridiculous.

514
00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:32,280
Speaker 1: Probably not.

515
00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:33,320
Speaker 3: That's just ridiculous.

516
00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:36,800
Speaker 1: Ryan, No, he wouldn't know. I wouldn't. I don't know.

517
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Speaker 3: I wouldn't have Ryan, but I have you banks In

518
00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:44,760
Speaker 3: you would of course these kinds of guys that were

519
00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:49,879
Speaker 3: great players for them, like absolutely, I don't know, like

520
00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:52,880
Speaker 3: the storied quote unquote, I do that with quotes because

521
00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:56,679
Speaker 3: they've never really won anything, the storied history of the Jets.

522
00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:59,080
Speaker 3: But every team has great players. I mean you just

523
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Speaker 3: like when I just said Hugh and you mean Kevin

524
00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:04,800
Speaker 3: Kevin Mawai, Like how many times is he your Pro

525
00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:05,840
Speaker 3: Bowl and All pros?

526
00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:06,120
Speaker 1: Right?

527
00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:10,879
Speaker 3: Is he not worthy of any consideration? Nick Mangold, No,

528
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Speaker 3: like like I mean, there's no Kevin Falk or anything.

529
00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:20,600
Speaker 1: But I mean for a team hall of Fame, but

530
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Speaker 1: I might I might even argue with that, you know you.

531
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Speaker 3: Might, yeah, but while you're talking, you should you would

532
00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:28,760
Speaker 3: want half of the Patriots Hall of Fame.

533
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Speaker 5: That's kind of my point, Paul. You know, so for

534
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Speaker 5: a team that only like won one Super Bowl and

535
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Speaker 5: like they've been around for how many years now sixty

536
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Speaker 5: or something like that and.

537
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Speaker 4: They've only won one time, that's pretty bad.

538
00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:44,400
Speaker 5: You know, And I don't think that they have sixty

539
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Speaker 5: people worthy of their team Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 3: I don't, that's silly. I don't if you have to

541
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Speaker 3: win a Super Bowl to be worried Hall of Fame.

542
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Speaker 8: I just a couple of Camarti's kids.

543
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Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, right, you've got like nine kids, Keshawn Johnson.

544
00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:03,320
Speaker 3: If yet to name a players not better than two

545
00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:05,959
Speaker 3: guys that are in the Patriots Hall of Fame and

546
00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:10,320
Speaker 3: two guys that we voted into the Patriots Hall of Fame,

547
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Speaker 3: I'm ashamed to say.

548
00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:15,160
Speaker 1: Oh, should Bill Parcells?

549
00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:20,360
Speaker 3: Oh Jets? Yeah, probably guys.

550
00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:22,360
Speaker 4: Bill Parcells just gets into every Hall of.

551
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Speaker 8: Fame, Big Tuna, You're easy.

552
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Speaker 3: When was the last time they had success that wasn't

553
00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:29,040
Speaker 3: involving him?

554
00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:31,760
Speaker 1: I'm well, Rex Ryan, they did pretty well.

555
00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:33,679
Speaker 8: Championships.

556
00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:36,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, I would say he had equal success to Parcels.

557
00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:40,200
Speaker 3: Okay, you can make that argument, you know, so both

558
00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:42,479
Speaker 3: of them are out. Yeah yeah, I mean you can

559
00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:45,240
Speaker 3: make that argument. That's a good argument. Okay, thank you.

560
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Speaker 3: I'm not completely unbending.

561
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Speaker 7: Then he tested Birdie probably be in there too for them.

562
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Speaker 3: Not for you guys. No, no, no, I just think that.

563
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Speaker 1: I mean, let's put in Tom tupaunt it too.

564
00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:03,120
Speaker 3: I thread, dull thread, we should put Tom tu Bran

565
00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:04,720
Speaker 3: for the Patriots for twenty minutes.

566
00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:09,040
Speaker 5: You know a certain person would do it.

567
00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:11,920
Speaker 3: We could get get me to a bad place where

568
00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:15,440
Speaker 3: I can get even on the ballot. You're taking into

569
00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:16,119
Speaker 3: a bad place.

570
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Speaker 1: Now he was on my ballot.

571
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Speaker 3: I know he was, Fred, but for different reasons. Really

572
00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:23,040
Speaker 3: you were no socks, were trying to do something.

573
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Speaker 1: I don't know what you're talking about.

574
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Speaker 4: Justice for West. Well, yeah, I know it's a bad pass, all.

575
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Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, Now he should have caught it.

576
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Speaker 4: It's a bit of both.

577
00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:34,760
Speaker 1: It was a bit of both.

578
00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:37,159
Speaker 3: He should he should He definitely should have caught it.

579
00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:39,080
Speaker 1: It could have been it was behind him, face it.

580
00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:41,120
Speaker 4: If it hits him and a touchdown, it's a bad

581
00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:42,520
Speaker 4: that's a bad pass.

582
00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:47,360
Speaker 3: But he should have caught it. I'd like to think

583
00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:49,359
Speaker 3: the four thousand other catches that he had would have

584
00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:51,640
Speaker 3: overshadowed the one that he is. But I'm wrong.

585
00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:55,200
Speaker 5: That's wh Just look at Welker's numbers for crying out loud.

586
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Speaker 3: I mean, in half the amount of seasons, he had

587
00:26:57,320 --> 00:27:00,359
Speaker 3: better production than Edelman in literally half of the amount

588
00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:00,720
Speaker 3: of seasons.

589
00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:05,040
Speaker 4: Well, whether it's true or not, every single time you

590
00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:07,560
Speaker 4: bring up this argument between the two of them. Everybody

591
00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:10,480
Speaker 4: says it Element makes that catch, and I don't know

592
00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:11,000
Speaker 4: if he does.

593
00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:13,560
Speaker 3: But unless I were watching the Atlanta game, except for

594
00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:16,159
Speaker 3: the little fingertip catch, yeah, because I might say, no, man,

595
00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:17,679
Speaker 3: he might have dropped it like he didn't know in

596
00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:18,120
Speaker 3: that game.

597
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Speaker 4: I'm just saying that's what they won that.

598
00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:22,560
Speaker 3: Game, the playoffs. They won that game.

599
00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:23,640
Speaker 4: That's it.

600
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Speaker 3: Welco was pretty clutching the playoffs. I don't if you

601
00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:29,160
Speaker 3: look at his numbers, they're pretty comparable that.

602
00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:32,720
Speaker 4: I don't disagree, but that's always the that's always the argument.

603
00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:35,800
Speaker 3: Just an half the amount of games.

604
00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:35,680
Speaker 8: Probably to the MVP.

605
00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:36,000
Speaker 11: Right.

606
00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:39,840
Speaker 5: See the difference between ten for one oh three team

607
00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:44,399
Speaker 5: Welker on those Patriots teams and other great players on

608
00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:49,640
Speaker 5: teams that didn't have the playoffs of six Welker's. Welker's

609
00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:54,359
Speaker 5: performances got the Patriots into playoffs, won them playoff games,

610
00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:57,320
Speaker 5: and yes they didn't win a Super Bowl, but during

611
00:27:57,359 --> 00:27:59,960
Speaker 5: Welker's era, they were still winning on a regular base.

612
00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:04,920
Speaker 5: They were still annual contenders for the AFC Championship because.

613
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:06,880
Speaker 3: Of they were in the AFC Championship because.

614
00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:09,480
Speaker 5: Of the contributions of Welker. I mean he was the

615
00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:10,919
Speaker 5: guy that was moving the sticks and.

616
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Speaker 3: The other part of that that I always hate because

617
00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:15,080
Speaker 3: whenever you get into these kinds of things, it comes

618
00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:17,159
Speaker 3: across as well, he's a Welker guy. That means he

619
00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:17,800
Speaker 3: hates Edelman.

620
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:20,240
Speaker 1: No, nope, no, nope.

621
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Speaker 3: Edelman to me is a no brain. That's why I'm

622
00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:25,480
Speaker 3: not overly offended that Edelman got in before Vinitary. No,

623
00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:27,800
Speaker 3: I'm not a because that meant, to me, is a

624
00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:31,080
Speaker 3: no brainer Patriots Hall of Famer. There's no argument to

625
00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:33,280
Speaker 3: be made against him. So I don't want to make

626
00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:35,360
Speaker 3: this sound like no. I think Welker is a more

627
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:38,120
Speaker 3: worthy candidate, but it doesn't mean that I don't think

628
00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:41,080
Speaker 3: they're both. They shouldn't require any thought at all. Yeah,

629
00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:43,360
Speaker 3: in my view, they both automatic Halifa.

630
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Speaker 1: I agree your guy at all.

631
00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:48,320
Speaker 3: I mean your guy unbelievable production.

632
00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:50,040
Speaker 1: He claims that, and maybe he's right. I just don't

633
00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:50,600
Speaker 1: remember this.

634
00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:53,960
Speaker 5: He says that after Vinitary left and every time he

635
00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:58,240
Speaker 5: came back to here, fans would boo him, who's my guy?

636
00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:01,600
Speaker 3: Felger said that he got he got boot a.

637
00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:02,040
Speaker 1: Lot, did he?

638
00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:02,400
Speaker 11: Yeah?

639
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:04,920
Speaker 1: I don't remember though, that he was he.

640
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:07,520
Speaker 3: Was the meaning who was looking for money.

641
00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:11,000
Speaker 4: That was another thing that I'm not saying right or

642
00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:13,960
Speaker 4: wrong again, but a lot of people that I heard

643
00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:17,480
Speaker 4: from about this held it against Vinitary that he didn't

644
00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:20,160
Speaker 4: play his whole career as with the Patriots versus Edelman,

645
00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:23,760
Speaker 4: who was a Fox mister Foxborough forever, and people.

646
00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:25,040
Speaker 1: Did that he was looking for money.

647
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:26,680
Speaker 4: And I don't know against him.

648
00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:27,600
Speaker 1: I'd already paid.

649
00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:30,400
Speaker 5: Him once, you know, a lot for a kicker he want.

650
00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:32,920
Speaker 5: It was the second time around, and he wasn't gonna

651
00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:33,880
Speaker 5: settle for less.

652
00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:35,720
Speaker 1: And like, I don't blame him.

653
00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:37,560
Speaker 4: I don't blame him at all, but I think there's

654
00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:42,120
Speaker 4: a I think that is why it doesn't necessarily blame him.

655
00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:44,720
Speaker 4: But just if you're going up against Edelman, that.

656
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Speaker 7: Was Welker going to Denver, right and all above dropping

657
00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:52,720
Speaker 7: a pass? Yeah, uh, I just I love both those guys,

658
00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:56,680
Speaker 7: and I know that they're both overlooked like white slot receivers.

659
00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:59,360
Speaker 7: But like looking at Edelman, you can tell Edelman has

660
00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:03,200
Speaker 7: some elite physical talent, like its just eyeball tests, Like

661
00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:05,120
Speaker 7: you look at him and like that guy is Like

662
00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:07,400
Speaker 7: with Welker, I never got that vibe. Like I look

663
00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:09,480
Speaker 7: at Welker, and I'm like, who's this kid from the

664
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Speaker 7: high school that they just brought up, which to me

665
00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:12,920
Speaker 7: makes it just all the more.

666
00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:16,160
Speaker 8: Remarkable how good Wes Welker was because on paper and

667
00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:19,320
Speaker 8: just like the eyeball test, he doesn't look good, Amini.

668
00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:21,520
Speaker 8: You know, he looks like, who's this tiny kid? He's

669
00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:22,440
Speaker 8: gonna get hurt out there, you.

670
00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:25,400
Speaker 3: Know, point you look at you look at Edelman, and

671
00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:30,280
Speaker 3: you know, especially as he progressed in his career Boneless Chicken,

672
00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:34,400
Speaker 3: you know, he started to look a lot bigger, yeah,

673
00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:37,920
Speaker 3: you know, thicker, and Welker never had that appearance. Welker

674
00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:39,720
Speaker 3: was just a small kid that looked like you could

675
00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:40,080
Speaker 3: have played for.

676
00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:42,400
Speaker 5: Your Remember is a ninety nine yard touchdown in Miami,

677
00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:47,120
Speaker 5: like carrying the ball like one of those too big,

678
00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:50,400
Speaker 5: too big, and his helmet was always looked like the

679
00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:52,440
Speaker 5: Great Kazillion, you know, for the Flintstone.

680
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:55,400
Speaker 7: I mean, I remember him in seven getting a look

681
00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:57,280
Speaker 7: at him right before a punt return and they do

682
00:30:57,400 --> 00:31:00,240
Speaker 7: like a close up of his just like guys, you know,

683
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:03,880
Speaker 7: like just so intense waiting for that pint. That's what

684
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:09,200
Speaker 7: I think is I get why everyone loves Edelman. He

685
00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:11,480
Speaker 7: came of age now and you know, ages, social media

686
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:14,400
Speaker 7: and all that. But I think it overshadows Wes Welker

687
00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:16,360
Speaker 7: and how special he was and how funny was to

688
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:17,440
Speaker 7: watch when he was a patriot.

689
00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:18,280
Speaker 8: That that's what's this.

690
00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:21,480
Speaker 3: But hopefully this all just gets sort of sorted out

691
00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:24,520
Speaker 3: and they figure out maybe how to streamline it a

692
00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:27,520
Speaker 3: little bit, because they're all these guys are all worthy

693
00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:28,240
Speaker 3: of a day.

694
00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:32,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, but I don't think you should start like, oh,

695
00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:38,720
Speaker 5: you know, except for Tom Brady, you know, circumventing the process.

696
00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:41,880
Speaker 4: Well, you have to circumvent the process for Bill at

697
00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:42,360
Speaker 4: some point.

698
00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:44,520
Speaker 1: I think those are the two exceptions. That's it.

699
00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:49,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's it. But I it's a tough process because

700
00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:52,440
Speaker 4: it should be special, right that like the one a

701
00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:54,680
Speaker 4: year makes it special, that it's it's one guy a

702
00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:58,360
Speaker 4: year that gets in. But you know, Dud for Vinetary,

703
00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:00,720
Speaker 4: it's not going to be this year, it's probably not

704
00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:03,320
Speaker 4: going to be next year, and then in twenty twenty seven.

705
00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:06,280
Speaker 4: You never know, you know what might come of twenty

706
00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:07,160
Speaker 4: twenty seven later.

707
00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:10,640
Speaker 3: H mccaudy. I mean, if I don't know what they're

708
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:13,200
Speaker 3: going to do for Bill, but if it's Gronk and

709
00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:15,240
Speaker 3: mccaordy and Belichick.

710
00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:19,480
Speaker 5: See mccordy and Slater, Yes, they're probably going to be

711
00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:21,840
Speaker 5: patriots of all the things. But in those two cases,

712
00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:25,120
Speaker 5: I would definitely make the case that Vinitary deserves to

713
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:25,520
Speaker 5: be in.

714
00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:27,360
Speaker 3: But I'm just going to tell you that that's not

715
00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:29,160
Speaker 3: going to happen. If they're on the same ballt well, that.

716
00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:33,000
Speaker 5: Would then then it's not a matter of like preference,

717
00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:38,320
Speaker 5: like Vinitary deserves to be in before you know those

718
00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:39,280
Speaker 5: two I mean, come.

719
00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:42,840
Speaker 3: On, come on, I'm just going to tell you, don't

720
00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:44,720
Speaker 3: be don't be surprised if it doesn't happen.

721
00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:48,880
Speaker 4: I'd be pretty surprised if Slater gets in over him,

722
00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:52,640
Speaker 4: because they're both special teamers, right they Slater, maybe.

723
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:55,880
Speaker 3: It's your recentcy, But Terry could go Berenitarry could go

724
00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:57,800
Speaker 3: in over Slater. He ain't going in over mccaorty.

725
00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:01,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, probably not, probably not, But like I get you know.

726
00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:04,640
Speaker 4: The other argument was not that, like we all know

727
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:06,360
Speaker 4: this is outrageous, but at the end of the day,

728
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:09,200
Speaker 4: in Vinitary was a kicker, right and Edelman was a

729
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:12,880
Speaker 4: wide receiver and played you know, a lot more. Even

730
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:15,480
Speaker 4: though we know how important Vinitary was, So if he

731
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:17,680
Speaker 4: went up against mccordy. I wouldn't be surprised if a

732
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:19,360
Speaker 4: lot of those people felt the same way. You know,

733
00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:20,160
Speaker 4: mccordy was.

734
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Speaker 3: I mean, Bill did call Vanitary the best player in

735
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:25,520
Speaker 3: the team. Yeah, oh yeah when they won a super

736
00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:31,880
Speaker 3: Bowl called long. I think he's wrong, and I think

737
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:34,600
Speaker 3: it was a backhanded way of giving himself the credit,

738
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:36,600
Speaker 3: like I just won the Super Bowl with a team

739
00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:38,560
Speaker 3: that the kicker is the best player on. But that's

740
00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:42,760
Speaker 3: my psychotic nature that I automatically see things that not

741
00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:45,160
Speaker 3: everybody else sees from Bill.

742
00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:48,200
Speaker 7: Bill Simmons coming around your psychotic be a way of

743
00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:51,120
Speaker 7: looking at Belichick and Brady and how it all ended.

744
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:52,360
Speaker 8: And I think some of.

745
00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:55,520
Speaker 7: The recent events from coming out of North Carolina has

746
00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:57,440
Speaker 7: made Bill Simmons reevaluate a.

747
00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:00,000
Speaker 3: Little bit like hypocritical. I think I said that last week.

748
00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:04,440
Speaker 5: Yeah uh, Bill and Carlsbad, California. Paul, please let loose

749
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:06,920
Speaker 5: on the fans. Today's your day. Take the gloves off.

750
00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:09,880
Speaker 5: Edelman winning this vote over Adam is a dereliction of

751
00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:12,840
Speaker 5: duty for the fan base. If I here one more teenager,

752
00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:15,640
Speaker 5: if I here one more teenager, tell me that Adam

753
00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:17,200
Speaker 5: just made a couple of kicks in the snow.

754
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:18,320
Speaker 1: I'm gonna lose my mind.

755
00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:22,840
Speaker 5: Teenager who says that, I don't think teenager who's saying

756
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:23,239
Speaker 5: I mean, I.

757
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:26,360
Speaker 3: Don't read another email.

758
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:33,560
Speaker 4: Here we go, Oh hey, guess Josh Dobbs, I'm Frank Kersh.

759
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:42,640
Speaker 1: Come on there, yeah, have a seat. We were just

760
00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:45,080
Speaker 1: in the middle of a Patriots Hall of Fame debate.

761
00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:49,040
Speaker 1: Anything good. Well, Julian Edelman, uh just got in.

762
00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:53,839
Speaker 5: Everybody agrees that he's most deserving, but there's Adam Vina

763
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:56,520
Speaker 5: Terry was also up and here. The way they do it,

764
00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:59,680
Speaker 5: it's a fan vote, So the committee nominates three people

765
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:01,000
Speaker 5: in the fans vote on it.

766
00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:02,560
Speaker 1: And Edelman one, which is great.

767
00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:06,280
Speaker 5: We all love Julian Edelman, but personally, I think Vinitari

768
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:08,799
Speaker 5: should have gone in first. So there's a little bit

769
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:10,719
Speaker 5: of debate out there in Patriot's Nation about it.

770
00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:13,759
Speaker 12: I'm sure we'll get in eventually, right, absolutely, he will

771
00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:15,440
Speaker 12: take some legendary kicks.

772
00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:16,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely So.

773
00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:19,000
Speaker 3: Now, Josh, on the seventeen teams that you've played on,

774
00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:21,520
Speaker 3: did you have these kinds of debates?

775
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:23,279
Speaker 12: I mean, I'm trying to get to thirty two at

776
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:25,600
Speaker 12: this point. Oh no, No, hopefully we'll find a nice ring

777
00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:28,600
Speaker 12: in one year, I know, three and one year twice

778
00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:29,919
Speaker 12: back to back years.

779
00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:31,120
Speaker 8: I think that's a record.

780
00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:33,880
Speaker 3: Probably not cool. A lot of different experience it was.

781
00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:36,880
Speaker 12: It was definitely unique, definitely, I think what's cool about it, Like,

782
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:39,360
Speaker 12: I know everyone's story is different, but unique. What was

783
00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:42,720
Speaker 12: unique about mine is all three of those experiences were

784
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:44,839
Speaker 12: like a growth opportunity, right, Like it was like you're

785
00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:47,880
Speaker 12: going from now you're a little crazy of a growth opportunity.

786
00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:50,680
Speaker 12: But you know, for instance, the crazy year, you know,

787
00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:53,080
Speaker 12: it was you're starting in Cleveland and you're going to

788
00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:54,640
Speaker 12: be the two to Deshaun. And now it's like, hey

789
00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:57,520
Speaker 12: go start in Arizona. And then it's you know, Kyler's

790
00:35:57,520 --> 00:35:59,719
Speaker 12: coming back or Cousins just got injured, Hey go start

791
00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:02,239
Speaker 12: in the minutes. So there are all opportunities to grow

792
00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:03,720
Speaker 12: and do what I love and be on the field,

793
00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:05,400
Speaker 12: which is I did in the day what all of

794
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:06,480
Speaker 12: us competitors love to do.

795
00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:08,600
Speaker 7: How do you I just say, how do you get

796
00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:10,880
Speaker 7: ready to quarterback a team when you've been there like

797
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:12,839
Speaker 7: a week I think said it happened like twice to you,

798
00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:14,800
Speaker 7: you've gone it. I mean, did you learn from the

799
00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:16,279
Speaker 7: first time, and then the second time you're like, oh,

800
00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:17,640
Speaker 7: I've been here, I've done this before, I know, I

801
00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:18,279
Speaker 7: know what I'm doing.

802
00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:22,040
Speaker 12: I'm so I got traded to Jacksonville in my third season,

803
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:24,640
Speaker 12: middle of the year, well second second week when Nick

804
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:28,040
Speaker 12: Foles went down, and the goal was like come in

805
00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:30,400
Speaker 12: on a Tuesday, then be ready to play on a Sunday.

806
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:34,080
Speaker 12: And that year was Gardner Minshew's rookie season of Minshew Mania.

807
00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:34,800
Speaker 1: He went crazy.

808
00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:36,960
Speaker 12: So I didn't have to go in and play, but

809
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:39,319
Speaker 12: through that experience I learned like, hey, like you got

810
00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:41,040
Speaker 12: four days to get ready, Like how how do you

811
00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:44,080
Speaker 12: learn to playbook, dissect it, understand it, meet your teammates,

812
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:46,600
Speaker 12: find a place to live, and then go out and

813
00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:48,720
Speaker 12: be ready to play on a Sunday. And so that experience,

814
00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:50,040
Speaker 12: even though I didn't have to step out there and

815
00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:52,560
Speaker 12: actually play, allowed me to be able to do it

816
00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:54,279
Speaker 12: the next two times and actually do it at a

817
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:54,839
Speaker 12: high level.

818
00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:58,120
Speaker 5: I mean with all the teams you've been on, and

819
00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:00,839
Speaker 5: you said you learned from each one of those, do

820
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:02,680
Speaker 5: you find like you get to a new place like

821
00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:05,719
Speaker 5: the Patrons and say, hey, Josh, you know what if

822
00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:07,839
Speaker 5: you know we do it a certain way. But if

823
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:10,799
Speaker 5: you've seen things in your journeys that you know, maybe

824
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:12,960
Speaker 5: we could be doing better. Do coaches ever come to

825
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:16,520
Speaker 5: you like for that type of you know, suggestions because

826
00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:18,160
Speaker 5: you have so much experience.

827
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:18,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, a little bit, a little bit.

828
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:21,360
Speaker 12: I know each coach, right, they have their own personality

829
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:23,800
Speaker 12: and flair and ways they like to build a culture.

830
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:25,799
Speaker 12: Obviously Braves has done it at a high level. So

831
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:29,160
Speaker 12: for me is learning and there's also a good chance

832
00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:30,640
Speaker 12: to get back with him right and see it from

833
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:33,359
Speaker 12: the beginning. I got a chance to join him during

834
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:35,120
Speaker 12: my time in Tennessee very quickly at the end of

835
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:38,960
Speaker 12: the season, and they already obviously built their culture at

836
00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:41,040
Speaker 12: that point, and so now it's really cool to see

837
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:43,719
Speaker 12: the foundation blocks of it. And it's a little bit

838
00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:45,759
Speaker 12: right like but in the day, you know, I think

839
00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:49,759
Speaker 12: in my I've been going to year nine, a lot

840
00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:52,880
Speaker 12: of these coaches have you know, double almost triple that

841
00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:57,560
Speaker 12: experience and time in the NFL. So yeah, so it's

842
00:37:57,560 --> 00:38:01,200
Speaker 12: still I'm still you know, learning from them then trying

843
00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:05,640
Speaker 12: my best to grow, learn, improve each day and conquer

844
00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:07,400
Speaker 12: a new offense to be able to go out and

845
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:08,640
Speaker 12: execute to play at high level.

846
00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:13,480
Speaker 3: Yep, can I ask you your preferences is josh oh Joshua.

847
00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:17,240
Speaker 3: We're speaking josh is cool, josh I've seen it written Joshua.

848
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:18,520
Speaker 3: I don't know if that's what you preferred.

849
00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:21,400
Speaker 12: No, I always say like I say, I say for

850
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:23,560
Speaker 12: my sake, like josh because people always call me josh

851
00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:26,440
Speaker 12: but my mom loves Joshua, so she named me Joshua.

852
00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:31,680
Speaker 1: Was Frederick, you know, it's like nobody calls me.

853
00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:38,040
Speaker 3: I wanted to ask you a little bit about that

854
00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:40,680
Speaker 3: connection with Rabel before you got here, and that was

855
00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:42,399
Speaker 3: one of the times that Mike is talking about where

856
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:44,200
Speaker 3: you sort of stepped in and not only you had

857
00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:46,040
Speaker 3: to play right away, but with the season on the

858
00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:48,680
Speaker 3: line that it was that week, like a couple of

859
00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:49,200
Speaker 3: years ago.

860
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:51,279
Speaker 12: Now, it was awesome, honestly, like it was everything that

861
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:53,279
Speaker 12: I wanted, the exact sen s which I wanted to

862
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:54,920
Speaker 12: be put in. You know, at that stage, I was

863
00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:57,400
Speaker 12: finishing year six in the NFL and I hadn't had

864
00:38:57,440 --> 00:39:00,920
Speaker 12: any significant playing time. I was behind Beenthlisberger for five

865
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:02,759
Speaker 12: years and we know the great quarterback that he was

866
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:05,600
Speaker 12: for the Pittsburgh Steelers, so there wasn't a ton of opportunity.

867
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:07,719
Speaker 12: And then I was in Cleveland and that was the

868
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:09,600
Speaker 12: year they had just paid to Seawan and it was

869
00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:11,759
Speaker 12: first year there. And so the end of season came

870
00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:13,560
Speaker 12: around and I was in the I was putting in

871
00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:16,440
Speaker 12: an awkward situation, but I basically was like, hey, like,

872
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:18,920
Speaker 12: I want to make myself available so that if a

873
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:20,920
Speaker 12: team needs a guy to step in there and play

874
00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:22,359
Speaker 12: at the end of the season, like, I want to

875
00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:24,839
Speaker 12: show that I'm available. And so Titans gave me a call,

876
00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:26,879
Speaker 12: gave me that opportunity, and we stepped in there, man,

877
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:29,160
Speaker 12: and we came one play away from going to the playoffs.

878
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:32,000
Speaker 12: And I and obviously, like looking back on it, you know,

879
00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:33,919
Speaker 12: things I could have done to actually win that game.

880
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:35,720
Speaker 12: But I think that experience and the way I handle

881
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:37,520
Speaker 12: it allowed for me to be here and have this

882
00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:39,560
Speaker 12: opportunity to hit the ground running.

883
00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:40,000
Speaker 8: Here in New England.

884
00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:43,040
Speaker 12: So you never know what what one opportunity, how it

885
00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:45,120
Speaker 12: made me lead to the next. And I think it's

886
00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:48,680
Speaker 12: really cool that, you know, my first opportunity to step

887
00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:50,520
Speaker 12: on the field came because of coach Frable. You know,

888
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:52,840
Speaker 12: I hadn't know him, knew him like a week, and

889
00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:54,840
Speaker 12: he felt like I gave him the best opportunity to

890
00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:57,200
Speaker 12: go out there and win a playoff game. So you know,

891
00:39:57,239 --> 00:40:00,359
Speaker 12: I think that speaks to my time in Tennessee, Man,

892
00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:02,279
Speaker 12: and you know, not dwelling on the past, but I

893
00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:04,800
Speaker 12: think it's a great opportunity to have a lot of

894
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:07,759
Speaker 12: familiar faces, people that know me and have seen what

895
00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:11,680
Speaker 12: I can do on on crash course opportunity, and I'll

896
00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:13,799
Speaker 12: see like, hey, like let's get in here and learn

897
00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:16,600
Speaker 12: understand an offense, the scheme of culture, and see how

898
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:17,799
Speaker 12: you can contribute to the cost.

899
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:20,120
Speaker 5: I think I think you could be a great addition

900
00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:22,000
Speaker 5: because there's a lot of young people on this team,

901
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:25,560
Speaker 5: especially on offense, So just having your maturity there and

902
00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:27,279
Speaker 5: your experience, I think that's going to be a real

903
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:28,680
Speaker 5: benefit to all of them.

904
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:30,799
Speaker 12: No, I'm and I'm excited about the youth. Like I

905
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:33,239
Speaker 12: think there's a lot of young guys on the team,

906
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:36,399
Speaker 12: but like their their energy is infectious, like their love

907
00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:40,120
Speaker 12: for football is infectious. Their talent is really good, Like

908
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:41,959
Speaker 12: it pops off the page just when we're throwing routs

909
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:44,240
Speaker 12: on here out here on the practice field. So I'm excited.

910
00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:47,840
Speaker 12: I think with this culture, the scheme, this coaching staff,

911
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:50,040
Speaker 12: and the talent that we have, Man, I'm excited to

912
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:51,160
Speaker 12: see what we're able to do with it.

913
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:54,120
Speaker 4: Just I know it's been a short time, you know,

914
00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:55,920
Speaker 4: I haven't had a ton of time together. But what

915
00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:58,680
Speaker 4: are your impressions of Drake May and what's it been

916
00:40:58,719 --> 00:40:59,480
Speaker 4: like working with him?

917
00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:00,000
Speaker 1: It's been good.

918
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:01,759
Speaker 12: Like my first time medium was on the golf course

919
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:03,319
Speaker 12: and he can hit the crap out of golf ball.

920
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:05,920
Speaker 1: Tell you that it's that right, yeah, straight?

921
00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:14,360
Speaker 12: But no, he's uh, I would say his energy and

922
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:16,400
Speaker 12: is love for ball like really pops off the page

923
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:18,279
Speaker 12: right when you meet him. Know, we were in here

924
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:21,040
Speaker 12: early as QBS and our our day start at seven am,

925
00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:24,480
Speaker 12: and you know he's in here early, bright, smiled, happy,

926
00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:28,240
Speaker 12: ready to go, asking great questions. Man leading this team,

927
00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:29,920
Speaker 12: and it's been really good to be around him. I

928
00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:33,000
Speaker 12: know it's just been six short weeks, but we're growing quickly.

929
00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:36,920
Speaker 12: Like coach McDaniel is is holding us to a high standard,

930
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:40,000
Speaker 12: putting a lot on our plate and allowing us the

931
00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:43,279
Speaker 12: freedom to push the team, push the offense so that

932
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:46,719
Speaker 12: we can get as much information and as possible before

933
00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:48,600
Speaker 12: we get the camp. And it's been really good to

934
00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:49,839
Speaker 12: be around him, and I think we have a really

935
00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:51,880
Speaker 12: healthy quarterback room. I'm excited to see what we can do.

936
00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:54,640
Speaker 1: Are you settling in to the area. I am.

937
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:57,319
Speaker 12: It's been good. I made it to I made it

938
00:41:57,360 --> 00:42:00,560
Speaker 12: to the Selfish game last week. It's all close out

939
00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:01,319
Speaker 12: the Orlando.

940
00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:02,560
Speaker 1: Magic there last night.

941
00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:05,200
Speaker 12: I wasn't there last We need some some more good juju.

942
00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:09,000
Speaker 12: Pushing for it, trying to make it to a Red

943
00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:13,000
Speaker 12: Sox game at some point. That's life, that's the bucket list.

944
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:16,160
Speaker 12: So we're hopping around getting some good food and everything,

945
00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:19,160
Speaker 12: mainly in Foxboro during the week but on the weekend,

946
00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:21,680
Speaker 12: trying to get at least taste the town a little bit.

947
00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:23,400
Speaker 7: Yeah, it worked at the NASA a little bit when

948
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:25,680
Speaker 7: you were down with Jacksonville. You get into some of

949
00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:27,320
Speaker 7: the science museums here up here in the North.

950
00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:29,799
Speaker 12: Will at some point at some point, definitely. I know

951
00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:32,080
Speaker 12: there's a plethora of him, so we'll get a chance

952
00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:32,880
Speaker 12: to explore a little bit.

953
00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:34,000
Speaker 11: Yeah, in due time.

954
00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:37,480
Speaker 1: So you're into space and are you into science fiction movies?

955
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:38,120
Speaker 3: Science?

956
00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:40,480
Speaker 8: Yeah, it was just Star Wars day. That's my favorite trilogy.

957
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:42,560
Speaker 1: Have you been watching and or I've not.

958
00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:45,080
Speaker 12: I've not watched, and I will say I need to

959
00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:48,000
Speaker 12: get on it. I started the first couple episodes a

960
00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:49,160
Speaker 12: little slow for me.

961
00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:54,040
Speaker 1: But I heard it gets rially. It's for adults. Don't know.

962
00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:59,080
Speaker 5: You're looking for, like, you know, Chebacca, he's not in

963
00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:01,920
Speaker 5: it yet. You know, you walks and things like that.

964
00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:04,840
Speaker 5: You're not going to see that. It's really it's about

965
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:07,640
Speaker 5: plot and how the whole revolution started.

966
00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:08,239
Speaker 12: I like that.

967
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:08,799
Speaker 1: It's cool.

968
00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:10,600
Speaker 12: I'm gonna get into it. I usually like to wait

969
00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:12,680
Speaker 12: for a show to get to like four or five

970
00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:15,040
Speaker 12: seasons so I can just binge watch them all. So yeah,

971
00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:17,239
Speaker 12: I'll probably wait one more season then I'll really dive

972
00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:19,759
Speaker 12: into it. Yeah, big favorite people here, Yeah, favorite Star

973
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:22,279
Speaker 12: Wars movie, the third one for sure. And I think

974
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:24,520
Speaker 12: a sleeper's Rogue one for sure.

975
00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:28,560
Speaker 1: That's what and Or is. It's the prequel to exactly, Yeah, exactly.

976
00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:30,760
Speaker 8: I think and Or ends right as Rogue one is starting.

977
00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:31,680
Speaker 8: So I will get off this now.

978
00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:34,040
Speaker 3: Paul, you guys can do.

979
00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:36,600
Speaker 8: Can I ask you one more football question?

980
00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:36,799
Speaker 4: Though?

981
00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:38,520
Speaker 8: Is I think one thing that that we're.

982
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:41,399
Speaker 7: Also curious about is is Josh taking a year off

983
00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:43,279
Speaker 7: traveling around to some colleges.

984
00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:45,239
Speaker 8: What's he got cooking in the lab?

985
00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:45,799
Speaker 4: You know?

986
00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:47,840
Speaker 7: What's it been like for you with that new playbook

987
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:49,759
Speaker 7: you've been around, You've had a lot of playbooks. How

988
00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:51,680
Speaker 7: is this one stack up with with the challenges of

989
00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:53,480
Speaker 7: you know, getting to know the system?

990
00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:57,600
Speaker 12: It's cool, like I think, you know anytime, like he's

991
00:43:57,719 --> 00:44:00,239
Speaker 12: talking about plays right and you're okay, okay, I see

992
00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:01,799
Speaker 12: what we're doing. See we're doing. Then he pulls up

993
00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:04,399
Speaker 12: clips of you know, Tom doing it in a Super Bowl.

994
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:06,040
Speaker 12: You're like, all right, I mean I guess this this

995
00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:09,319
Speaker 12: offense works pretty well, right, and that that's like what's

996
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:11,600
Speaker 12: cool for Drake and I we're both learning this scheme

997
00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:13,520
Speaker 12: is you know, it's been done at a high level,

998
00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:16,240
Speaker 12: at the highest level consistently and has shown this results.

999
00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:18,600
Speaker 12: And it's really easy for us to buy into it

1000
00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:21,160
Speaker 12: and what he's teaching and obviously the new additions that

1001
00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:23,920
Speaker 12: he's added during his time off because of the success

1002
00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:26,160
Speaker 12: that you see just when you turn on the tape.

1003
00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:27,200
Speaker 3: And we're enjoying it.

1004
00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:30,520
Speaker 12: It is different lots on the quarterback plate, but I

1005
00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:33,200
Speaker 12: think with the guys that we have in the room,

1006
00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:35,080
Speaker 12: it's really going to play into our skill set really

1007
00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:37,399
Speaker 12: well allow us to play the best football that we can.

1008
00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:39,400
Speaker 5: All right, Well, Josh, We'll let you get back to

1009
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:40,600
Speaker 5: your whatever you're doing.

1010
00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:43,520
Speaker 1: I know you've got meetings and all that stuff. So

1011
00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:45,799
Speaker 1: welcome to New England. It's the first time we've been

1012
00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:46,520
Speaker 1: able to say that.

1013
00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:49,759
Speaker 5: Appreciate you coming by and don't be a stranger telling

1014
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:51,359
Speaker 5: her and you know, anytime you want to come in,

1015
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:52,000
Speaker 5: just come on in.

1016
00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:53,359
Speaker 1: We never leave here.

1017
00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:56,960
Speaker 12: We're here here all the time. He can get a

1018
00:44:56,960 --> 00:44:59,719
Speaker 12: window outside. Appreciate you all.

1019
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:01,400
Speaker 1: I think you appreciate it.

1020
00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:04,400
Speaker 5: Thank you, Josh, Josh Dobbs stopping in.

1021
00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:05,120
Speaker 1: That was fun.

1022
00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:09,879
Speaker 3: You guys got a little Star Wars Wars back.

1023
00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:14,000
Speaker 4: I was getting good answers. You know. Rogue one, I

1024
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:16,640
Speaker 4: assumes talking about Return of the Jedi when he says three,

1025
00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:17,319
Speaker 4: you know.

1026
00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:18,000
Speaker 3: I don't know, Evan.

1027
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:20,480
Speaker 8: I think it might have been. I think probably of

1028
00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:20,839
Speaker 8: the Sith.

1029
00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:24,279
Speaker 3: I would guess, oh yeah, I thought I don't like

1030
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:26,239
Speaker 3: those are I was with Evan. But I'll take it

1031
00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:27,840
Speaker 3: back one, two and three.

1032
00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:28,280
Speaker 1: Of the original.

1033
00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:32,080
Speaker 5: So for some people, three is the turning of the

1034
00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:35,759
Speaker 5: turning into Darth Va Revenge of the I.

1035
00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:38,239
Speaker 4: Think in terms of so technically Jedi would be six

1036
00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:40,720
Speaker 4: correchnically technically, but not technically.

1037
00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:42,839
Speaker 3: I would look at it as the third one ever.

1038
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:44,440
Speaker 4: Was any sane.

1039
00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:47,560
Speaker 3: Person chronological or yeah, that's when I would be I

1040
00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:48,960
Speaker 3: would can after that.

1041
00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:52,719
Speaker 4: Any sane person would say that that's three. But you

1042
00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:56,680
Speaker 4: know some people, probably my my age demographic.

1043
00:45:56,960 --> 00:45:58,840
Speaker 7: Well yeah, that's like Maddie says, I mean that's you know,

1044
00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:01,120
Speaker 7: the young kids love the episode three, and it's like

1045
00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:01,720
Speaker 7: my generation.

1046
00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:08,400
Speaker 4: It's it's kind of getting the prequels are definitely I

1047
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:10,640
Speaker 4: feel like making a comeback a little bit like now

1048
00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:15,000
Speaker 4: twenty years right now three like Phantom Menace everybody thinks

1049
00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:18,120
Speaker 4: is good. Now I still am on the fenceive out.

1050
00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:20,680
Speaker 4: See this is my point.

1051
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:25,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, all right, well listen, Josh Dobbs is a Patriot,

1052
00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:28,760
Speaker 5: And if you were ever thinking of working at Gillette Stadium,

1053
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:31,839
Speaker 5: now's your chance. You can go to the craft group

1054
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:36,880
Speaker 5: dot com slash careers and apply today for positions at

1055
00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:40,120
Speaker 5: Gillette Stadium. There's seasonal positions and they're available in food

1056
00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:43,520
Speaker 5: and beverage, parking, insecurity, so you can work games and

1057
00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:46,320
Speaker 5: other events here at Jette Stadium. Make a little extra

1058
00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:49,560
Speaker 5: coin for whatever you need the extra coin for uh

1059
00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:53,320
Speaker 5: so again, go to the Craft group dot com slash

1060
00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:55,240
Speaker 5: careers and you can apply today.

1061
00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:58,840
Speaker 7: I think you said work in insecurity. It's work in security.

1062
00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:01,719
Speaker 7: But you know there's not an in security department. People

1063
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:02,400
Speaker 7: are insecurity.

1064
00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:05,359
Speaker 1: That's us. Yeah, that's us here.

1065
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:09,520
Speaker 5: So nobody knows what you're talking about.

1066
00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:12,560
Speaker 8: Rady Juke on her lacker. You all know it, y'all know.

1067
00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:17,160
Speaker 4: So I saw, you know, scrolling through Facebook reels or whatever,

1068
00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:20,200
Speaker 4: somebody made like a video of his like top five

1069
00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:23,319
Speaker 4: runs of all time. I mean, it's not He's not

1070
00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:25,920
Speaker 4: Michael Vick. It's not exactly this has got to be.

1071
00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:28,160
Speaker 4: It wasn't on the list that's got to be. And

1072
00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:31,879
Speaker 4: all the comments were just like, no, where's their lack?

1073
00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:35,240
Speaker 3: I was afraid to touch them. Yeah, so there's something

1074
00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:37,440
Speaker 3: about this might touch him. Not that it was as

1075
00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:41,279
Speaker 3: great Juke, No, but that was part of it.

1076
00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:42,960
Speaker 1: I don't think he expected it. Correct.

1077
00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:48,160
Speaker 3: There's something about this game that's very specific and unique.

1078
00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:51,399
Speaker 5: We're talking about the Bears, the Bears, the six week

1079
00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:52,480
Speaker 5: twelve O six.

1080
00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:55,640
Speaker 3: The Bears came in the Sunday night. No, I'm just

1081
00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:58,160
Speaker 3: saying that there was there was an element to Jollette

1082
00:47:58,200 --> 00:48:00,680
Speaker 3: Stadium that was for the first time in that game.

1083
00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:04,440
Speaker 7: Oh, the gross correct the new first Jets game, they

1084
00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:05,560
Speaker 7: ripped it up.

1085
00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:06,759
Speaker 1: Huh.

1086
00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:13,160
Speaker 3: I think I'm nine percent. I think you're right though,

1087
00:48:14,239 --> 00:48:15,840
Speaker 3: And I think there was a bye week after the

1088
00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:18,600
Speaker 3: Jets game where Richard Seymour couldn't rush the pass and

1089
00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:21,920
Speaker 3: the beach, and then they in two weeks they put

1090
00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:24,359
Speaker 3: the field turf in. I believe that was the first game.

1091
00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:24,879
Speaker 8: That's crazy.

1092
00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:27,759
Speaker 4: I just remember like Corey Dyllon just the muddy, like

1093
00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:30,240
Speaker 4: you just have mud all over his jersey.

1094
00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:33,280
Speaker 5: It was great, but that feel was a mess it.

1095
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Speaker 5: You know, like everyone now wants grass back, but people

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Speaker 5: were really complaining how bad.

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Speaker 1: That feel was at the time.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, with the amount of events they have here, I

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Speaker 5: don't know how they're going.

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Speaker 3: To Baltimore one.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they would do that.

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Speaker 8: So do they have to do anything for the World

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Speaker 8: Cup that's coming.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, they're going to have to put in grass.

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Speaker 8: Just like that.

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Speaker 4: Soccer players don't play on turf.

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Speaker 8: Helped me with my lawn maybe so.

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Speaker 5: Josh Dobbs is here, just another seemingly nice guy they

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Speaker 5: brought in.

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Speaker 7: What a story, and it just shows you that everybody

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Speaker 7: has random collection of traveling to different teams.

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Speaker 3: I mean twice traded It's funny. I didn't realize that

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Speaker 3: that game that Rabel started him on a week's notice

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Speaker 3: was really the first extensive playing time he ever got.

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Speaker 3: I didn't realize. Yeah, that makes it all the more

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Speaker 3: remarkable that Rabel made that decision. Yeah, yeah, you know, I.

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Speaker 7: Was a little hesitant to ask him, like as I

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Speaker 7: didn't want to frame it, like, how does it feel

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Speaker 7: to have some stability now? Because it's the NFL, nobody

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Speaker 7: has stability really, but.

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Speaker 1: One year it's only been here.

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Speaker 7: I think, I think it's a two year But I mean,

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Speaker 7: you know, at this point, what does that that actually mean?

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Speaker 7: But at least it seems like right now he's here,

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Speaker 7: he's the clear cut backup. I mean, some of those

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00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:44,920
Speaker 7: other situations, it seemed like there was some uncertainty that

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Speaker 7: resulted ultimately in somebody getting traded out of his rooms.

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Speaker 1: Right, all right? So yeah, hopefully comes by again, hope.

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Speaker 1: Nice guy.

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Speaker 5: Going back to our discussion Adam Vinteri and uh Julian Edelman,

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Speaker 5: Jason writes in I'm a big fan of Adam and Julian,

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Speaker 5: but I think Julian deserved to get in first simply

1134
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Speaker 5: because he never left the Patriots. I appreciate what Adam

1135
00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:13,279
Speaker 5: did for the team, but going to our rival and

1136
00:50:13,320 --> 00:50:16,200
Speaker 5: spending more time there than in New England sealed it

1137
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Speaker 5: from me. Adam should definitely get in, But in my loyalty,

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Speaker 5: it's with Julian and nice shirt dudes.

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Speaker 8: Oh thank you.

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00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:25,960
Speaker 4: That's I hear that sentiment a lot.

1141
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Speaker 3: I just hate it, I do. I hear that a lot.

1142
00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:31,080
Speaker 3: I just hate that sentiment. Because one guy had an

1143
00:50:31,120 --> 00:50:33,840
Speaker 3: opportunity to leave and get a free agent contract and

1144
00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:36,680
Speaker 3: the other guy didn't, doesn't shouldn't mean that Well, that's

1145
00:50:36,680 --> 00:50:37,359
Speaker 3: why I'm going to stick.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I all thinks the same way a lot

1147
00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:40,719
Speaker 1: of people.

1148
00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:42,799
Speaker 5: Adam was great for the start of the Dynasty, but

1149
00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:45,080
Speaker 5: wise he up at the same time as Jules because

1150
00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:47,160
Speaker 5: he played a lot more for another team. Jewles was

1151
00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:50,480
Speaker 5: instrumental in winning playoff games in Super Bowls. Vinitaria made

1152
00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:53,040
Speaker 5: some clutch kicks that Brady got him in position for.

1153
00:50:53,160 --> 00:50:58,399
Speaker 4: It may think they're both worthy so lightly. I mean,

1154
00:50:58,440 --> 00:51:00,560
Speaker 4: the snowball kick is the greatest kick of all time,

1155
00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:03,399
Speaker 4: and it made a couple of clutch kicks. Is not

1156
00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:05,319
Speaker 4: really doing that justice like.

1157
00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:08,520
Speaker 3: That kick that that kick being the result of Brady

1158
00:51:08,560 --> 00:51:12,239
Speaker 3: putting him in position is one of the more like

1159
00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:16,040
Speaker 3: ridiculous stretches that you'll ever hear, Like he made a

1160
00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:19,400
Speaker 3: forty five yard field goal in like five inches of snow,

1161
00:51:19,520 --> 00:51:23,080
Speaker 3: right while it was still not given the quarterback credit

1162
00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:26,440
Speaker 3: for putting him in position to make the kick. Please.

1163
00:51:27,640 --> 00:51:30,840
Speaker 7: It's and also, I just can't it's hard to fault

1164
00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:34,360
Speaker 7: Adam than a Terry for wanting to like basically double

1165
00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:36,360
Speaker 7: his career by going to kick inside.

1166
00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:38,560
Speaker 4: It's a really good point. Like I don't remember who

1167
00:51:38,560 --> 00:51:40,920
Speaker 4: brought that up, but I maybe he brought it up

1168
00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:43,960
Speaker 4: somewhere something and he mentioned it. Yeah, you know, it

1169
00:51:44,080 --> 00:51:46,320
Speaker 4: really did probably prolong his career.

1170
00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:49,200
Speaker 3: He didn't want to leave, but when he got the opportunity,

1171
00:51:49,239 --> 00:51:50,480
Speaker 3: he started to think along.

1172
00:51:50,480 --> 00:51:54,399
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, all right, eight five to five, Pats five

1173
00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:59,640
Speaker 5: hundred is the hotline. Let's go to the phones. Patty

1174
00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:01,680
Speaker 5: in Agawam. He'll start it off.

1175
00:52:01,680 --> 00:52:04,120
Speaker 1: What's up, Patty took everyone?

1176
00:52:04,120 --> 00:52:04,920
Speaker 13: How are we doing today?

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Speaker 1: Okay? Yes, with you.

1178
00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:12,399
Speaker 13: I just wanted to say Lake, this might piss off

1179
00:52:12,440 --> 00:52:14,680
Speaker 13: some of the younger audience, but I really don't care.

1180
00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:17,400
Speaker 13: I got no problem with Julian being in. But I

1181
00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:19,719
Speaker 13: think the voters got it wrong. I think they got

1182
00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:21,600
Speaker 13: it wrong with the Hall of Fame vote, and I

1183
00:52:21,640 --> 00:52:24,439
Speaker 13: think they got it wrong with this one. And Paul,

1184
00:52:24,480 --> 00:52:26,759
Speaker 13: you brought up how Julia's career started. Do you remember

1185
00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:30,959
Speaker 13: how Adams started here too? Like the first four games.

1186
00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:36,360
Speaker 13: I did a little research. He started out perfect against Miami,

1187
00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:38,759
Speaker 13: he made both his kicks extra point field goal.

1188
00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:41,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, And he missed three field goals in Buffalo in

1189
00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:42,920
Speaker 3: week two and his job was on the line.

1190
00:52:43,040 --> 00:52:46,120
Speaker 1: He missed a bunch in Kansas City to the next week.

1191
00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:49,080
Speaker 13: I guess Arizona, he missed an extra point two And

1192
00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:51,120
Speaker 13: I remember I went to the game. I was at

1193
00:52:51,120 --> 00:52:53,200
Speaker 13: the game when they played Deck and tell them the

1194
00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:55,359
Speaker 13: Mark Mark Brunel Hail Marry game.

1195
00:52:55,480 --> 00:52:57,240
Speaker 3: He made five out of six in that game.

1196
00:52:58,320 --> 00:52:59,840
Speaker 13: Yeah, And there was a lot of talk that l

1197
00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:02,080
Speaker 13: you know, Parcels wasn't too happy with him.

1198
00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:02,239
Speaker 7: Ye.

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Speaker 13: So to me, like it's almost a miracle that he

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00:53:06,719 --> 00:53:07,640
Speaker 13: that he sucked.

1201
00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:07,920
Speaker 10: With the team.

1202
00:53:08,160 --> 00:53:10,600
Speaker 13: And then if you go with the butterfly effect, like

1203
00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:12,880
Speaker 13: if he doesn't make that field goal against the Raiders,

1204
00:53:13,120 --> 00:53:16,080
Speaker 13: they lose the game. And who knows that the dynasty

1205
00:53:16,120 --> 00:53:19,719
Speaker 13: even happens, because you know, you just you don't know,

1206
00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:21,600
Speaker 13: like maybe they go into the off season there's a

1207
00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:25,080
Speaker 13: QB controversy and Belichick has the same sort of situation

1208
00:53:25,200 --> 00:53:27,080
Speaker 13: that they that he had in Cleveland.

1209
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Speaker 10: And I know that.

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00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:31,040
Speaker 3: I mean, it's it's not a stretch, but I will

1211
00:53:31,040 --> 00:53:33,359
Speaker 3: say that, you know that he's right. Patty's right about

1212
00:53:33,400 --> 00:53:36,799
Speaker 3: the Vinitary. The start of Vinitary's career, he made five

1213
00:53:36,840 --> 00:53:39,279
Speaker 3: out of six against Jacksonville and the last one was

1214
00:53:39,320 --> 00:53:43,040
Speaker 3: an overtime game winner and had he missed it. Now,

1215
00:53:43,200 --> 00:53:46,520
Speaker 3: Vinitary beat out Matt Barr in that training camp. Matt

1216
00:53:46,560 --> 00:53:50,520
Speaker 3: Barr was a Parcels guy, right, so he was on

1217
00:53:50,640 --> 00:53:51,200
Speaker 3: thin ice.

1218
00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:51,600
Speaker 14: You know.

1219
00:53:51,719 --> 00:53:53,600
Speaker 3: Parcells was like, I just want the guy that I'm

1220
00:53:53,600 --> 00:53:55,319
Speaker 3: real I can rely on. I know he might not

1221
00:53:55,360 --> 00:53:57,399
Speaker 3: be able to make the fifty yarders like Adam could

1222
00:53:57,400 --> 00:54:00,600
Speaker 3: at that time, but he he's going to be the

1223
00:54:00,640 --> 00:54:05,440
Speaker 3: reliable guy. You know that had he missed another important

1224
00:54:05,520 --> 00:54:08,120
Speaker 3: kick or two, that was it. So that's not a

1225
00:54:08,160 --> 00:54:11,279
Speaker 3: stretch to say that no Venitary, no win in the

1226
00:54:11,320 --> 00:54:14,319
Speaker 3: Snow Bowl. Now, I kind of think that Bill and

1227
00:54:14,360 --> 00:54:17,360
Speaker 3: Tom would have figured out how to win, because I

1228
00:54:17,400 --> 00:54:19,840
Speaker 3: think they were that good. But it's not a stretch

1229
00:54:19,880 --> 00:54:22,399
Speaker 3: to suggest had they lost that game and not won

1230
00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:24,960
Speaker 3: that Super Bowl, maybe the two that ensued in three

1231
00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:26,960
Speaker 3: and oh four might not have happened. It's true, it's

1232
00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:29,960
Speaker 3: not impossible to say. I personally think it would have

1233
00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:33,399
Speaker 3: because I think that Tom was just that good, and

1234
00:54:33,480 --> 00:54:35,640
Speaker 3: I think Bill would have stuck with Tom either way,

1235
00:54:35,800 --> 00:54:37,480
Speaker 3: win or lose that game. I think Bill would have

1236
00:54:37,480 --> 00:54:40,280
Speaker 3: stuck with Tom because I think he was already pretty

1237
00:54:40,320 --> 00:54:45,320
Speaker 3: convicted at that point. But it's not the most I

1238
00:54:45,320 --> 00:54:47,279
Speaker 3: don't think. Do you guys think that's so ridiculous like that?

1239
00:54:47,320 --> 00:54:50,200
Speaker 1: But I just don't know what will happen.

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00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:52,840
Speaker 4: To kickstarted the whole thing. Yea, and no pun intended.

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00:54:54,080 --> 00:55:01,520
Speaker 1: Nathan is in Connecticut? What's up, Nathan? Nathan? Nathan? Is

1242
00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:04,160
Speaker 1: Nathan gone? Goodbye? Nathan?

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Speaker 8: Goodbye?

1244
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Speaker 1: A lot of emails though, a lot of emails.

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Speaker 3: Didou you read some of him now?

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Speaker 1: Or I will?

1247
00:55:10,719 --> 00:55:12,200
Speaker 3: I want to read them now? Are you gonna eat?

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Speaker 3: We can share your food is here?

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Speaker 11: I'm good. Can't complain what we got first transition?

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Speaker 14: Yeah, yeah, excepting liking the olding kind of kind of things.

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Speaker 11: So it's a bitter pressed by.

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Speaker 17: Yeah, No, it's been good. Verbs is amazing. He's an

1287
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Speaker 17: amazing man to be around. He's just been such a

1288
00:57:25,080 --> 00:57:27,520
Speaker 17: light to this building. He's been such an amazing coach.

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Speaker 17: He's even out there, you know, like running special teams

1290
00:57:30,680 --> 00:57:33,400
Speaker 17: drills with us, you know, giving me insight on linebacker.

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Speaker 11: He's just been an amazing coach.

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Speaker 3: What'll just be to you to have the team and

1293
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Speaker 3: Ashley to contract out from burning back.

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Speaker 10: You know.

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Speaker 17: At the time, me and my wife, you know, we're

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Speaker 17: What's about to happen. But when we got when I

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Speaker 17: got the call from Elliott, it was nothing but excitement,

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Speaker 17: nothing but joy, you know, a little uncertainty knowing where

1300
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Speaker 17: we're gonna live and whatnot. We're getting all that figured

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Speaker 17: out right now. So it's been good. It's been a blessing.

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Speaker 17: But it's just been it's been amazing, you know, to

1303
00:58:02,960 --> 00:58:06,360
Speaker 17: be desired by the organization, desired by the team, and

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Speaker 17: to see what they have in store, not only as

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Speaker 17: a team but as a defense.

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Speaker 11: It's been. It's been really good. You've been hoping he would.

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Speaker 16: Say, here playing.

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Speaker 17: Opportunity, you know, above all else, I try to lead

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Speaker 17: wherever God takes me. I'm good wherever I think God

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Speaker 17: will use me. Anywhere, any organization I'm in, I'm gonna

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Speaker 17: put my best foot forward. And I think, you know,

1312
00:58:32,760 --> 00:58:34,680
Speaker 17: God has something special for me here.

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Speaker 11: You know.

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00:58:35,000 --> 00:58:38,280
Speaker 17: Whether I know that, whether whether it is or not,

1315
00:58:38,560 --> 00:58:41,320
Speaker 17: it doesn't matter to me. So whether it's here in Vegas,

1316
00:58:41,320 --> 00:58:43,880
Speaker 17: and you know, I'm very happy to be here, but

1317
00:58:44,200 --> 00:58:45,280
Speaker 17: it's all in God's hands.

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00:58:45,560 --> 00:58:47,840
Speaker 11: What's it been like reuniting with no William? And how

1319
00:58:47,840 --> 00:58:49,360
Speaker 11: did you feel when you found out? You guys, friend,

1320
00:58:49,680 --> 00:58:51,280
Speaker 11: when I saw it. I was really excited.

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00:58:51,360 --> 00:58:53,400
Speaker 17: I was excited for him, especially because I was able

1322
00:58:53,440 --> 00:58:56,120
Speaker 17: to play with him for a few years. So I

1323
00:58:56,160 --> 00:58:58,400
Speaker 17: was nothing but excited for him because he's such a

1324
00:58:58,400 --> 00:59:01,360
Speaker 17: tremendous talent. You know, you don't see many guys like him,

1325
00:59:01,440 --> 00:59:03,439
Speaker 17: So I have nothing but the highest price for him.

1326
00:59:03,560 --> 00:59:05,400
Speaker 17: You know, we already chopped it up in the locker room,

1327
00:59:05,480 --> 00:59:07,160
Speaker 17: you know, the last few weeks, and it's good to

1328
00:59:07,160 --> 00:59:08,760
Speaker 17: have here.

1329
00:59:08,080 --> 00:59:09,280
Speaker 11: Coming up with a career year.

1330
00:59:09,320 --> 00:59:12,240
Speaker 3: How much did last season became confidence and how much

1331
00:59:12,240 --> 00:59:13,920
Speaker 3: does it help, you know, coming into.

1332
00:59:13,800 --> 00:59:15,560
Speaker 4: This off seasons office success?

1333
00:59:16,000 --> 00:59:18,080
Speaker 17: Yeah, no, it definitely set the tone for me mentally,

1334
00:59:19,160 --> 00:59:22,000
Speaker 17: you know, going through my first few years in the league.

1335
00:59:22,000 --> 00:59:24,360
Speaker 11: You know, it's been a rough transition.

1336
00:59:24,440 --> 00:59:27,440
Speaker 17: So like when I got the when I got the

1337
00:59:27,480 --> 00:59:30,240
Speaker 17: offer sheet from the Raiders, you know, I'm sitting down

1338
00:59:30,240 --> 00:59:31,720
Speaker 17: with my wife. You know, it's a little personal, but

1339
00:59:32,000 --> 00:59:34,600
Speaker 17: I'm sitting there and you know, I'm tearing up. I'm like,

1340
00:59:34,840 --> 00:59:37,160
Speaker 17: is this really happening? You know, I've been cut six

1341
00:59:37,240 --> 00:59:39,520
Speaker 17: seven times. You know, I've been bouncing around the league

1342
00:59:39,520 --> 00:59:41,960
Speaker 17: and like is this Like did God really allow us

1343
00:59:42,000 --> 00:59:43,000
Speaker 17: to happen to me?

1344
00:59:44,080 --> 00:59:46,520
Speaker 11: You know? And I think when you do do well

1345
00:59:46,560 --> 00:59:49,000
Speaker 11: with a little, you'll do well with a lot.

1346
00:59:49,160 --> 00:59:50,960
Speaker 17: You know, I don't know what the future holds, but

1347
00:59:51,000 --> 00:59:53,640
Speaker 17: as long as I keep what I'm doing, I think

1348
00:59:53,680 --> 00:59:55,920
Speaker 17: God has me and wherever I'm going to be. So

1349
00:59:56,360 --> 00:59:58,040
Speaker 17: it was it's nothing but a blessing for me and

1350
00:59:58,080 --> 00:59:59,880
Speaker 17: my family with a new.

1351
01:00:00,200 --> 01:00:05,040
Speaker 5: Coach, almost an entirely new assistant coaching staff to the

1352
01:00:05,080 --> 01:00:08,120
Speaker 5: exceptions though, Jeremy.

1353
01:00:08,320 --> 01:00:11,080
Speaker 1: Tom, what was it like to work with them last year?

1354
01:00:12,160 --> 01:00:13,920
Speaker 1: How do you feel about them for the Tarnae and.

1355
01:00:13,840 --> 01:00:15,080
Speaker 8: Their roles with special teams?

1356
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Speaker 11: Yeah?

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01:00:15,440 --> 01:00:20,440
Speaker 17: No, they're both amazing. They're both knowledgeable, they're both exciting,

1358
01:00:20,480 --> 01:00:23,800
Speaker 17: they're both energizer bunnies. They're both good guys that have

1359
01:00:23,840 --> 01:00:25,760
Speaker 17: in the building. So I was very happy to hear

1360
01:00:26,480 --> 01:00:29,120
Speaker 17: that Braves and the organization decided to keep them, and

1361
01:00:29,240 --> 01:00:32,439
Speaker 17: I think they're a good addition. Jerry Spreader actually said

1362
01:00:32,560 --> 01:00:34,440
Speaker 17: that he was expecting to see more of you on

1363
01:00:34,520 --> 01:00:36,440
Speaker 17: defense and not too much on special teams this season.

1364
01:00:36,440 --> 01:00:37,480
Speaker 1: You've been going to special team.

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01:00:37,880 --> 01:00:39,160
Speaker 3: I'm curious do you see it that way?

1366
01:00:39,200 --> 01:00:41,200
Speaker 17: You're trying to have a bigger role on defense, and

1367
01:00:41,320 --> 01:00:43,160
Speaker 17: what does it mean to hear you know your special teams.

1368
01:00:43,160 --> 01:00:45,680
Speaker 11: Coach say you wants to scheme one inside of the Yeah, no.

1369
01:00:46,840 --> 01:00:49,560
Speaker 11: For for me, I'll do anything the organization asked to me.

1370
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Speaker 11: I'm not.

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Speaker 17: I'm not gonna be selfish in any way, shape or form.

1372
01:00:54,440 --> 01:00:58,120
Speaker 17: Whatever role they have for me, I'm gonna do it

1373
01:00:58,160 --> 01:01:01,320
Speaker 17: to the best of my ability. I still plan on

1374
01:01:01,400 --> 01:01:04,120
Speaker 17: playing special teams. I want to play special teams. It's

1375
01:01:04,160 --> 01:01:06,360
Speaker 17: still something that I think I'm good at, and it's

1376
01:01:06,480 --> 01:01:09,160
Speaker 17: something I think I can bring to the team. And

1377
01:01:09,200 --> 01:01:11,920
Speaker 17: even with an expanded defensive role, whatever that looks like,

1378
01:01:13,280 --> 01:01:15,040
Speaker 17: I'm good. I'm good playing both ways.

1379
01:01:15,800 --> 01:01:18,000
Speaker 9: Just to go back to something that you said, was

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Speaker 9: it seven times?

1381
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Speaker 11: There? We got that? H Well, it wasn't.

1382
01:01:22,480 --> 01:01:26,600
Speaker 17: It wasn't just Philly. It started in Minnesota. I bounced around.

1383
01:01:26,600 --> 01:01:28,360
Speaker 17: I went to Philly, and then I went to San France,

1384
01:01:28,400 --> 01:01:30,680
Speaker 17: and then back to Philly and then cut again and

1385
01:01:30,720 --> 01:01:31,840
Speaker 17: then released.

1386
01:01:33,000 --> 01:01:36,840
Speaker 11: So six times, six times, I think, yeah times.

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Speaker 1: And see the numbers on that opera.

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Speaker 16: See how life change.

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Speaker 10: Isn't it.

1390
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Speaker 9: We haven't done anything so like LifeWise the numbers.

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01:01:49,320 --> 01:01:49,760
Speaker 11: Yeah No.

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Speaker 17: So for my wife and I, you know above all

1393
01:01:57,160 --> 01:01:59,800
Speaker 17: that we want to honor the Lord, our God with

1394
01:01:59,840 --> 01:02:03,520
Speaker 17: our finances that is doubled it. God says it's hard

1395
01:02:03,560 --> 01:02:05,280
Speaker 17: for a rich to enter the Kingdom of Heaven. It's

1396
01:02:05,320 --> 01:02:06,800
Speaker 17: like it can we going through the eye of a needle.

1397
01:02:07,480 --> 01:02:10,800
Speaker 17: So with that being said, I I take that very seriously.

1398
01:02:11,920 --> 01:02:14,400
Speaker 17: So above all else, we're going to use it to

1399
01:02:14,440 --> 01:02:18,080
Speaker 17: honor God. We've used it to give it a little

1400
01:02:18,120 --> 01:02:20,360
Speaker 17: bit more of a stable environment for my family. You know,

1401
01:02:20,480 --> 01:02:23,600
Speaker 17: we're looking at getting a house. We're looking at just

1402
01:02:23,640 --> 01:02:27,360
Speaker 17: getting you know, this the my family side, So we

1403
01:02:27,400 --> 01:02:30,240
Speaker 17: aren't journeyman. You know, we aren't just bouncing around everywhere.

1404
01:02:30,280 --> 01:02:31,640
Speaker 17: You know, I want to see my kids grow up

1405
01:02:31,680 --> 01:02:33,840
Speaker 17: in a house. You know, I want them to have

1406
01:02:33,920 --> 01:02:36,160
Speaker 17: memories of a single house and not be bouncing around.

1407
01:02:36,560 --> 01:02:38,520
Speaker 17: So when we got that contract, you know, all these

1408
01:02:38,520 --> 01:02:40,240
Speaker 17: thoughts are going through my mind.

1409
01:02:40,360 --> 01:02:43,600
Speaker 11: And it was special. Its special to me, especially my wife,

1410
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Speaker 11: special to my family.

1411
01:02:45,360 --> 01:02:48,680
Speaker 3: Did your wife tell you that God wanting deterred by

1412
01:02:48,800 --> 01:02:49,280
Speaker 3: her something?

1413
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Speaker 10: Uh?

1414
01:02:53,080 --> 01:02:56,280
Speaker 11: You know, I think I think it's within a man's

1415
01:02:56,360 --> 01:03:00,520
Speaker 11: right to uh spoil his wife. So I was very

1416
01:03:00,560 --> 01:03:07,000
Speaker 11: happy to do. So. Yeah, there are guys who with Yeah,

1417
01:03:07,800 --> 01:03:10,000
Speaker 11: they would say, I'm going to show them, you know

1418
01:03:10,800 --> 01:03:17,160
Speaker 11: that like your faith for the kind of ship that. Yeah.

1419
01:03:17,240 --> 01:03:19,560
Speaker 17: No, I think guys will handle it two ways. Like

1420
01:03:19,640 --> 01:03:22,000
Speaker 17: you said, they will either handle it as being you know,

1421
01:03:22,240 --> 01:03:24,320
Speaker 17: pissed off all the time, and they're coming the building

1422
01:03:24,400 --> 01:03:24,880
Speaker 17: pissed off.

1423
01:03:25,520 --> 01:03:26,920
Speaker 11: For me, I want to be a light. I want

1424
01:03:26,960 --> 01:03:28,080
Speaker 11: to be a joyed of my teammates.

1425
01:03:29,080 --> 01:03:31,280
Speaker 17: So whether I was in the starting role or not,

1426
01:03:31,640 --> 01:03:33,280
Speaker 17: whether I was getting cut or not, whether I was

1427
01:03:33,320 --> 01:03:35,600
Speaker 17: on practice squad or not, it didn't matter to me.

1428
01:03:36,440 --> 01:03:38,160
Speaker 17: I wanted to be a light to them. And even

1429
01:03:38,160 --> 01:03:40,120
Speaker 17: if I was going through something hard, I know that

1430
01:03:40,160 --> 01:03:43,880
Speaker 17: they're going through stuff too. So yeah, I just want

1431
01:03:43,920 --> 01:03:46,800
Speaker 17: to be a light to not only this organization, to

1432
01:03:46,960 --> 01:03:50,680
Speaker 17: you guys, to my teammates, to everybody. So with this opportunity,

1433
01:03:50,720 --> 01:03:51,959
Speaker 17: I'm not going to squander.

1434
01:03:54,200 --> 01:03:58,960
Speaker 3: And now great moments in history.

1435
01:03:59,360 --> 01:04:02,840
Speaker 5: So when you're in your mind, you don't get the

1436
01:04:03,400 --> 01:04:05,800
Speaker 5: title of weapon unless you're a real playmaker.

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01:04:05,920 --> 01:04:06,640
Speaker 1: A real difference.

1438
01:04:06,680 --> 01:04:08,720
Speaker 3: But that's what we're talking about, right, That's the guys

1439
01:04:08,760 --> 01:04:10,640
Speaker 3: that they were looking at. I look I look at

1440
01:04:10,640 --> 01:04:13,160
Speaker 3: you know, like they're like they're interested in Brandon ayuk, No,

1441
01:04:13,240 --> 01:04:15,200
Speaker 3: he's a guy that can can impact the game.

1442
01:04:15,320 --> 01:04:17,520
Speaker 1: I look at it like, Okay, what is what is

1443
01:04:17,640 --> 01:04:18,960
Speaker 1: this quarterback's weapons?

1444
01:04:19,000 --> 01:04:21,520
Speaker 5: All right, he's got Hunter Henry at tight end, he's

1445
01:04:21,560 --> 01:04:24,600
Speaker 5: got Poke, he's got you know, you know.

1446
01:04:25,000 --> 01:04:28,120
Speaker 3: That's different just rattling off all the skill bread and plays.

1447
01:04:28,600 --> 01:04:30,120
Speaker 3: But there's a different streen.

1448
01:04:30,200 --> 01:04:33,880
Speaker 1: What like, who are the dependable people that this quarterback?

1449
01:04:34,520 --> 01:04:35,720
Speaker 3: Mario Douglas is a weapon?

1450
01:04:35,920 --> 01:04:36,480
Speaker 1: He should be.

1451
01:04:36,760 --> 01:04:40,360
Speaker 3: He's one of Jacoby Brissette's weapons. But is he a weapon?

1452
01:04:40,880 --> 01:04:41,600
Speaker 1: But I like it?

1453
01:04:42,480 --> 01:04:45,520
Speaker 3: Like I'm going on, I know, I like him.

1454
01:04:46,880 --> 01:04:48,320
Speaker 1: Don't you think he should be a weapon.

1455
01:04:48,440 --> 01:04:49,360
Speaker 8: He's among his weapons.

1456
01:04:49,400 --> 01:04:50,960
Speaker 3: But he's not that kind of player.

1457
01:04:51,360 --> 01:04:53,040
Speaker 1: Oh I do I think he's dynamic.

1458
01:04:53,760 --> 01:04:56,240
Speaker 3: I don't think he is. I don't think he's ever

1459
01:04:56,320 --> 01:04:58,720
Speaker 3: seen I don't think he's ever shown any dynamic ability

1460
01:04:59,400 --> 01:04:59,840
Speaker 3: the Mario.

1461
01:05:00,720 --> 01:05:04,240
Speaker 5: Yeah you're talking about pop Now that's another great moment.

1462
01:05:07,000 --> 01:05:09,520
Speaker 5: All right back here and Patriots Unfiltered A five to

1463
01:05:09,560 --> 01:05:13,640
Speaker 5: five PATS five hundred is the hotline podcast at Patriots

1464
01:05:13,640 --> 01:05:16,360
Speaker 5: dot com. Is the way to email us if you

1465
01:05:16,440 --> 01:05:18,720
Speaker 5: missed it, Josh stops stop by. You can catch it

1466
01:05:18,800 --> 01:05:22,360
Speaker 5: in the rebound on demand as they say, Okay, yeah.

1467
01:05:22,320 --> 01:05:23,760
Speaker 1: So nice guy.

1468
01:05:24,040 --> 01:05:26,520
Speaker 5: I think Vrabel only brings the nice guys. Because he

1469
01:05:26,560 --> 01:05:27,920
Speaker 5: wants to be the only a hole.

1470
01:05:29,360 --> 01:05:30,360
Speaker 3: Fair point could be.

1471
01:05:30,680 --> 01:05:33,160
Speaker 8: Yeah, guys that let it roll off their back, Yeah.

1472
01:05:33,920 --> 01:05:36,400
Speaker 5: Anthony writes in Paul said Julian Edelman didn't have a

1473
01:05:36,480 --> 01:05:38,280
Speaker 5: chance to get a contract in free agency, but that

1474
01:05:38,400 --> 01:05:42,040
Speaker 5: is incorrect. I had the pleasure of meeting Edelman at

1475
01:05:42,040 --> 01:05:44,000
Speaker 5: a bar one night in New York City and a

1476
01:05:44,040 --> 01:05:46,400
Speaker 5: buddy I was with mentioned he's a Giants fan.

1477
01:05:46,520 --> 01:05:46,880
Speaker 3: Giants.

1478
01:05:47,080 --> 01:05:49,640
Speaker 5: Edelman said that during free agency the Airy re signed

1479
01:05:49,680 --> 01:05:52,200
Speaker 5: with us, that he was very close to signing with

1480
01:05:52,240 --> 01:05:53,840
Speaker 5: the Giants, but he ultimately came.

1481
01:05:53,720 --> 01:05:57,959
Speaker 3: Back because they didn't offer him any money. He left

1482
01:05:57,960 --> 01:06:00,480
Speaker 3: that part out, like any money or they didn't offer

1483
01:06:00,560 --> 01:06:04,960
Speaker 3: him anything significant. Vinitary was the highest played kicker. Yeah,

1484
01:06:05,000 --> 01:06:07,560
Speaker 3: because one tea. I'm not going to get into this

1485
01:06:07,600 --> 01:06:11,320
Speaker 3: because it's going to sound disrespectful, but Pooka, the Patriots

1486
01:06:11,360 --> 01:06:14,480
Speaker 3: were certainly fine if Edelman left in freury agency. He

1487
01:06:14,600 --> 01:06:19,400
Speaker 3: wasn't Edelman yet. There wasn't a lot of attention. He

1488
01:06:19,440 --> 01:06:21,439
Speaker 3: didn't get a lot of attention on the free agent market.

1489
01:06:21,480 --> 01:06:23,840
Speaker 3: They weren't knocking down his door to sign him. That's

1490
01:06:23,920 --> 01:06:27,040
Speaker 3: my only point. So he became Edelman when he resigned

1491
01:06:27,440 --> 01:06:30,240
Speaker 3: and then Walker left and he took over the job

1492
01:06:30,320 --> 01:06:34,240
Speaker 3: full time, and to his credit, he thrived. But he

1493
01:06:34,400 --> 01:06:36,920
Speaker 3: did not get any money offered to him from the Giants,

1494
01:06:37,000 --> 01:06:41,600
Speaker 3: not enough significant, not enough to leave. Whereas Vinitary became again,

1495
01:06:41,760 --> 01:06:43,520
Speaker 3: he signed a long term deal to be the highest

1496
01:06:43,520 --> 01:06:45,080
Speaker 3: paid kicker in the game. Right now, I know that

1497
01:06:45,200 --> 01:06:48,520
Speaker 3: that's not necessarily big dollars, but for a kicker.

1498
01:06:48,320 --> 01:06:48,960
Speaker 11: That's what it is.

1499
01:06:50,560 --> 01:06:54,200
Speaker 5: After Fred expressed his support of Adam, Vinitarry, Paul's report

1500
01:06:54,440 --> 01:06:56,320
Speaker 5: was I'm not like you. I don't try to tell

1501
01:06:56,400 --> 01:06:57,200
Speaker 5: people what to think.

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01:06:57,720 --> 01:06:58,000
Speaker 3: Correct.

1503
01:06:58,120 --> 01:07:00,960
Speaker 5: Then when an emailer writes in that he settlement deserves

1504
01:07:01,000 --> 01:07:03,240
Speaker 5: to be in the Hall of Fame before Adam because

1505
01:07:03,240 --> 01:07:05,760
Speaker 5: of Julian's loyal to the Patriots, he adamantly states that

1506
01:07:05,960 --> 01:07:06,920
Speaker 5: he hates that opinion.

1507
01:07:07,080 --> 01:07:09,840
Speaker 3: I hated Paul. I don't tell you what to do.

1508
01:07:10,160 --> 01:07:13,400
Speaker 3: I thought you hated that opinion. Okay, you don't think

1509
01:07:13,440 --> 01:07:15,600
Speaker 3: that's the difference. You're mad at everybody.

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01:07:16,400 --> 01:07:18,800
Speaker 1: I'm not mad. I'm just surprised. I said, I was surprised.

1511
01:07:18,920 --> 01:07:20,160
Speaker 3: You said you were mad at the beginning.

1512
01:07:20,280 --> 01:07:21,320
Speaker 1: I said, I was surprised.

1513
01:07:21,640 --> 01:07:26,080
Speaker 3: I think the quote was I'm upset that they didn't

1514
01:07:26,120 --> 01:07:26,760
Speaker 3: think like me.

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01:07:27,000 --> 01:07:27,480
Speaker 11: I think.

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01:07:29,400 --> 01:07:31,760
Speaker 5: I'm surprised that they you know, I'm not upset. Like

1517
01:07:31,920 --> 01:07:33,800
Speaker 5: you said, people are going to think what they want

1518
01:07:33,840 --> 01:07:36,520
Speaker 5: to think. But I know I think that exactly I'm

1519
01:07:36,520 --> 01:07:39,760
Speaker 5: being I just think that that's the way I went

1520
01:07:39,840 --> 01:07:42,400
Speaker 5: at it. I'm surprised other people didn't agree with me.

1521
01:07:42,800 --> 01:07:45,360
Speaker 3: And yeah, there's a lot of different things that I

1522
01:07:45,480 --> 01:07:48,720
Speaker 3: sort of have strong opinions on. Obviously, I'm not sort

1523
01:07:48,720 --> 01:07:50,920
Speaker 3: of a shrinking violet when it comes to expressing those

1524
01:07:50,960 --> 01:07:55,720
Speaker 3: opinions on this show. And I get frustrated when people

1525
01:07:55,840 --> 01:07:59,120
Speaker 3: see things differently. But I don't get mad that people

1526
01:07:59,280 --> 01:08:02,320
Speaker 3: don't agree with me, because I think that's what debate's

1527
01:08:02,320 --> 01:08:05,040
Speaker 3: all about. I think you don't get mad if people

1528
01:08:05,080 --> 01:08:08,520
Speaker 3: don't because people don't agree with me. Yeah, no, oh, okay,

1529
01:08:08,720 --> 01:08:10,120
Speaker 3: I stand up for what I believe.

1530
01:08:10,800 --> 01:08:11,080
Speaker 1: Okay.

1531
01:08:11,720 --> 01:08:13,480
Speaker 3: I think that's an example of it. I would have

1532
01:08:13,560 --> 01:08:16,000
Speaker 3: had Vinetariy in first. I don't think there's anything wrong

1533
01:08:16,040 --> 01:08:17,320
Speaker 3: with the Edelman being in first.

1534
01:08:17,880 --> 01:08:18,040
Speaker 4: I do.

1535
01:08:18,240 --> 01:08:19,560
Speaker 3: That's where I sort of separate it.

1536
01:08:19,640 --> 01:08:20,200
Speaker 11: I do, I don't.

1537
01:08:20,240 --> 01:08:22,920
Speaker 3: I think Edelman is such a no brainer Patriots Hall

1538
01:08:22,920 --> 01:08:25,559
Speaker 3: of Famer that doesn't really bother me that he went

1539
01:08:25,600 --> 01:08:26,040
Speaker 3: in first.

1540
01:08:26,240 --> 01:08:28,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, it doesn't bother me that he's in. I just

1541
01:08:29,280 --> 01:08:31,960
Speaker 5: it bothers me that Vinitary.

1542
01:08:31,600 --> 01:08:31,960
Speaker 11: Is not in.

1543
01:08:32,240 --> 01:08:33,559
Speaker 1: Can I say it that way? Yeah?

1544
01:08:33,560 --> 01:08:33,960
Speaker 3: I think so.

1545
01:08:34,280 --> 01:08:36,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, I worry, that's my point. Yeah, I worry that

1546
01:08:37,000 --> 01:08:39,160
Speaker 4: it's going to take years to get Vinetary in. It's

1547
01:08:39,200 --> 01:08:41,200
Speaker 4: not so much that I care that Edelman is in

1548
01:08:41,360 --> 01:08:44,320
Speaker 4: over him this year, but like we laid out earlier,

1549
01:08:44,400 --> 01:08:47,439
Speaker 4: it's Gronk next year, and then you know, when Bill's

1550
01:08:47,479 --> 01:08:50,240
Speaker 4: time comes is going to probably be a Brady type situation.

1551
01:08:50,520 --> 01:08:54,679
Speaker 4: And so like it's just we've seen this with other guys. Yeah,

1552
01:08:54,800 --> 01:08:57,040
Speaker 4: you know, Logan Macon's is on the ballot every year

1553
01:08:57,080 --> 01:08:58,519
Speaker 4: and it's been at all and.

1554
01:08:59,000 --> 01:09:01,680
Speaker 5: That's true, has been in the battle a long time.

1555
01:09:01,840 --> 01:09:04,640
Speaker 5: Vrabel was on the ballot alone five times. But I

1556
01:09:04,640 --> 01:09:07,960
Speaker 5: would say to me, Vinetteri is even more of a

1557
01:09:08,040 --> 01:09:09,240
Speaker 5: slam dunk than those guys.

1558
01:09:09,439 --> 01:09:11,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, but he could be on the ballot for four

1559
01:09:11,320 --> 01:09:14,080
Speaker 4: or five years, and I feel like that's that's too bad.

1560
01:09:14,120 --> 01:09:14,799
Speaker 4: It's frustrating.

1561
01:09:14,840 --> 01:09:16,599
Speaker 7: Is there anyone else, though, who won a super Bowl

1562
01:09:16,640 --> 01:09:19,240
Speaker 7: in those first three that you think should feel that

1563
01:09:19,400 --> 01:09:20,360
Speaker 7: isn't isn't yet?

1564
01:09:20,439 --> 01:09:22,120
Speaker 8: Because Mankins and will.

1565
01:09:22,040 --> 01:09:23,719
Speaker 1: Ford I can't think of anyone, honestly.

1566
01:09:24,000 --> 01:09:25,800
Speaker 7: I will for Mankins kind of in the middle. They

1567
01:09:25,840 --> 01:09:29,040
Speaker 7: connected the two somewhat. And now we're getting into mccordy.

1568
01:09:28,760 --> 01:09:32,000
Speaker 1: And can I can't think of anyone that. Why isn't

1569
01:09:32,000 --> 01:09:32,559
Speaker 1: he in yet?

1570
01:09:32,760 --> 01:09:32,800
Speaker 11: No?

1571
01:09:33,160 --> 01:09:36,200
Speaker 3: I mean I can't think of any no brainers that

1572
01:09:36,400 --> 01:09:39,800
Speaker 3: should be in from that because the guys that were

1573
01:09:39,920 --> 01:09:44,599
Speaker 3: part of that, you know, like a guy like Dylan. Yeah,

1574
01:09:44,640 --> 01:09:46,519
Speaker 3: I'm not sure he did it long enough, right, you know.

1575
01:09:46,760 --> 01:09:49,439
Speaker 4: Randy Moss, Corey Dillon's the one that comes to mind

1576
01:09:49,479 --> 01:09:51,519
Speaker 4: for me. But I'm with Paul. It was only two years, right,

1577
01:09:51,720 --> 01:09:53,120
Speaker 4: so it wasn't so I.

1578
01:09:53,160 --> 01:09:53,720
Speaker 1: Don't put him in.

1579
01:09:53,920 --> 01:09:56,760
Speaker 8: Yeah, you know, Lawyer Malloy's not.

1580
01:09:56,840 --> 01:09:57,840
Speaker 1: In, right, is No?

1581
01:09:57,960 --> 01:10:00,880
Speaker 3: Lawyer's not in and he gets nominated pretty much.

1582
01:10:00,800 --> 01:10:02,480
Speaker 1: Every year he gets discussed.

1583
01:10:02,720 --> 01:10:05,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, well that's why. That's how you get nominated.

1584
01:10:05,880 --> 01:10:07,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, right, you're right.

1585
01:10:07,439 --> 01:10:09,920
Speaker 7: But anyone else, I mean, there's no Tyrone Pools, there's

1586
01:10:09,960 --> 01:10:12,040
Speaker 7: no there's nobody else, Like who else would there be?

1587
01:10:12,200 --> 01:10:13,639
Speaker 8: I you know what I mean, what I'm saying, that's

1588
01:10:13,640 --> 01:10:14,680
Speaker 8: what I mean. There's nobody else.

1589
01:10:14,720 --> 01:10:17,800
Speaker 3: I mean, the Jets can't get Drel We're talking about

1590
01:10:17,840 --> 01:10:22,520
Speaker 3: Tyrone anything to do with Super bowls.

1591
01:10:22,720 --> 01:10:25,719
Speaker 4: Otis Smith, O Smith, Tyrone, Poole.

1592
01:10:27,080 --> 01:10:30,800
Speaker 3: Lawyer Malloy is probably I mean, I have to give

1593
01:10:30,840 --> 01:10:32,479
Speaker 3: it some thought and look at the rashes, but that's

1594
01:10:32,560 --> 01:10:35,439
Speaker 3: you know, maybe Larry is. Oh but like like, lawyer

1595
01:10:35,479 --> 01:10:38,840
Speaker 3: moy is probably the last guy from that iteration that

1596
01:10:38,960 --> 01:10:42,679
Speaker 3: would warrant consideration. I'm not sure he rises to the level.

1597
01:10:43,320 --> 01:10:46,080
Speaker 3: I think he's worthy of discussion, which you know with

1598
01:10:46,160 --> 01:10:48,240
Speaker 3: Fred and I, you know, we're part of the committee.

1599
01:10:48,280 --> 01:10:51,439
Speaker 3: And he gets nominated. I think the last two or

1600
01:10:51,479 --> 01:10:53,880
Speaker 3: three years he's been nominated. He hasn't yet to make

1601
01:10:53,960 --> 01:10:56,840
Speaker 3: the final ballot. But Rodney's in, right, Rodney is in.

1602
01:10:58,080 --> 01:11:01,600
Speaker 3: And that's the argument that is made on behalf of

1603
01:11:01,720 --> 01:11:04,439
Speaker 3: Lawyer malloy is Malloy's numbers are better than Rodney's a

1604
01:11:04,600 --> 01:11:07,360
Speaker 3: Patriot and Super Bowl.

1605
01:11:07,680 --> 01:11:10,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, so Rodney was a better player.

1606
01:11:11,280 --> 01:11:15,280
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that's tough. That's tough.

1607
01:11:15,680 --> 01:11:18,000
Speaker 4: I mean, a better football player than Layd.

1608
01:11:18,040 --> 01:11:21,960
Speaker 3: I think Rodney had Rodney had a better career than Lawyer,

1609
01:11:22,080 --> 01:11:23,760
Speaker 3: I would say I would agree with that. I think

1610
01:11:23,840 --> 01:11:26,280
Speaker 3: Patriot's career it's really really close.

1611
01:11:26,439 --> 01:11:30,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm just talking about purely if you were ranking

1612
01:11:30,400 --> 01:11:31,680
Speaker 4: him as football players, I.

1613
01:11:31,640 --> 01:11:33,760
Speaker 3: Would put Rodney ahead of Lawyer. That's what I'm saying.

1614
01:11:33,800 --> 01:11:36,920
Speaker 3: As the body of the career, I would put Rodney ahead.

1615
01:11:36,920 --> 01:11:40,920
Speaker 5: Matt and Saskatchewan Biased writes in just wondering if the

1616
01:11:41,080 --> 01:11:44,680
Speaker 5: loyal Pew listeners can get insider info on when the

1617
01:11:44,720 --> 01:11:48,160
Speaker 5: release date for The Forged and Foxborough will be Part one.

1618
01:11:48,280 --> 01:11:50,400
Speaker 1: Sneak peek looks amazing.

1619
01:11:50,840 --> 01:11:52,120
Speaker 3: So that you have any information.

1620
01:11:52,360 --> 01:11:54,640
Speaker 5: I do have information, but I'm not at privy. I

1621
01:11:54,800 --> 01:11:59,320
Speaker 5: can't tell you yet. It'll it'll be out soon, you know.

1622
01:12:00,160 --> 01:12:02,400
Speaker 5: Let's put it this way. It'll be out before training camp,

1623
01:12:02,960 --> 01:12:04,080
Speaker 5: way before training camp.

1624
01:12:04,120 --> 01:12:06,240
Speaker 8: Maybe some special appearances by some people we know in

1625
01:12:06,320 --> 01:12:06,599
Speaker 8: it too.

1626
01:12:07,080 --> 01:12:09,320
Speaker 3: I'm not so sure. We didn't make the trailer, so

1627
01:12:09,600 --> 01:12:10,760
Speaker 3: you might not make the cut.

1628
01:12:11,120 --> 01:12:14,639
Speaker 5: Didn't make the cut, but that trailer, if you haven't

1629
01:12:14,680 --> 01:12:18,680
Speaker 5: seen it already, go to Patriots X what's it on

1630
01:12:18,800 --> 01:12:22,400
Speaker 5: Instagram to probably probably yeah, just go to the Patriots

1631
01:12:22,400 --> 01:12:26,439
Speaker 5: account and check out it's you know, it's typical. It

1632
01:12:26,479 --> 01:12:29,760
Speaker 5: will be your documentary trailer, but really really good work

1633
01:12:29,880 --> 01:12:34,960
Speaker 5: by Nick McCain and Bradley Amos on our squad who

1634
01:12:35,080 --> 01:12:39,280
Speaker 5: put that together. So we're really excited and what's going

1635
01:12:39,360 --> 01:12:42,519
Speaker 5: to be released will be, you know, a full hour

1636
01:12:43,320 --> 01:12:48,479
Speaker 5: documentary following with another documentary coming out after that. So

1637
01:12:49,479 --> 01:12:52,120
Speaker 5: we've been hard at work. So some really really good

1638
01:12:52,320 --> 01:12:56,000
Speaker 5: inside access that we've received. I think it'll get people

1639
01:12:56,080 --> 01:12:57,320
Speaker 5: really pumped up for the season.

1640
01:12:57,520 --> 01:12:59,439
Speaker 4: But no credit to Bradley because he's an Necks fan.

1641
01:13:01,000 --> 01:13:05,720
Speaker 1: Fair Yeah, so forged in Foxborough. Everybody liked that name.

1642
01:13:06,320 --> 01:13:08,200
Speaker 1: We were kicking around, you know what to call it?

1643
01:13:08,320 --> 01:13:09,840
Speaker 1: I like Fortune and Foxborough.

1644
01:13:10,200 --> 01:13:12,519
Speaker 3: Evan's right about like Bradley, he's a big he's a

1645
01:13:12,560 --> 01:13:15,320
Speaker 3: big Knicks fan, right, and no credit. Like the worst

1646
01:13:15,360 --> 01:13:18,639
Speaker 3: part of it is like he's not like be convicted

1647
01:13:18,880 --> 01:13:23,160
Speaker 3: like your team won last night, right, put your chest out,

1648
01:13:24,000 --> 01:13:26,599
Speaker 3: talk smack, have some confidence. He's like they're gonna get

1649
01:13:26,680 --> 01:13:31,160
Speaker 3: killed like tomorrow night. Like I that mentality, I don't

1650
01:13:31,240 --> 01:13:33,760
Speaker 3: I don't agree with you. Okay, I don't want to

1651
01:13:33,760 --> 01:13:35,960
Speaker 3: say that. I hate that because you get mad when

1652
01:13:36,000 --> 01:13:39,000
Speaker 3: I use those terms. Yeah, like you're a fan of

1653
01:13:39,080 --> 01:13:39,400
Speaker 3: the team.

1654
01:13:39,800 --> 01:13:41,679
Speaker 4: Oh no, but it's the Knicks.

1655
01:13:41,720 --> 01:13:44,280
Speaker 3: But it's like we're gonna lose.

1656
01:13:46,280 --> 01:13:46,920
Speaker 4: His whole life.

1657
01:13:47,160 --> 01:13:49,800
Speaker 3: It's like you know, growing up in New England, US, right,

1658
01:13:49,880 --> 01:13:53,240
Speaker 3: and you always expected the Red Sox to like epically collapse.

1659
01:13:53,920 --> 01:13:57,080
Speaker 3: That's that's Bradley till I moved to California. Stand up

1660
01:13:57,120 --> 01:13:59,640
Speaker 3: for yourself, bro. They should have been talking smack to

1661
01:13:59,680 --> 01:14:02,559
Speaker 3: Evan today. I think Celtic's gonna win the next four games.

1662
01:14:02,439 --> 01:14:05,800
Speaker 4: But they're gonna hang a banner in MSG one Game one,

1663
01:14:06,640 --> 01:14:08,000
Speaker 4: Round two against the Celtics.

1664
01:14:08,680 --> 01:14:11,360
Speaker 1: See, that's that's the old Patriots fan mentality.

1665
01:14:11,439 --> 01:14:13,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, when some team that beat the Patriots in the

1666
01:14:14,080 --> 01:14:16,120
Speaker 5: regular season they got their Super Bowl.

1667
01:14:15,960 --> 01:14:17,800
Speaker 4: Throw the parade you won Game one.

1668
01:14:19,160 --> 01:14:19,560
Speaker 11: I like that.

1669
01:14:19,720 --> 01:14:23,160
Speaker 5: That's a good mentality. Fans should have that mentality mentality

1670
01:14:23,880 --> 01:14:24,479
Speaker 5: f everybody.

1671
01:14:24,600 --> 01:14:26,960
Speaker 1: That's what That's what being a fan is about. Paul

1672
01:14:27,000 --> 01:14:30,360
Speaker 1: doesn't like that. No, I'm making fans should be gentle people.

1673
01:14:30,520 --> 01:14:34,280
Speaker 3: I'm making fun of Bradley for not being confident, not

1674
01:14:34,400 --> 01:14:36,160
Speaker 3: talking smack. You should be feeling.

1675
01:14:36,680 --> 01:14:40,200
Speaker 1: You got mad at the Patriots, the arrogant Patriots fan.

1676
01:14:40,880 --> 01:14:43,720
Speaker 3: Oh, well, that's different because every other team sucked well,

1677
01:14:43,840 --> 01:14:46,519
Speaker 3: which I never really understood. You're telling me that your

1678
01:14:46,560 --> 01:14:48,720
Speaker 3: team is really good. The Celtics fans are the same thing. Now,

1679
01:14:49,080 --> 01:14:51,240
Speaker 3: every team in the league sucks, So what are you

1680
01:14:51,320 --> 01:14:53,000
Speaker 3: telling me that you won, but it is you're the

1681
01:14:53,040 --> 01:14:54,040
Speaker 3: king of the dip poops.

1682
01:14:54,280 --> 01:14:58,519
Speaker 5: I know I agree with you. There By downplaying your opponent,

1683
01:14:58,880 --> 01:14:59,960
Speaker 5: you're not helping yourself.

1684
01:15:00,080 --> 01:15:02,320
Speaker 3: The Celtics are the best team in basketball, right, They're

1685
01:15:02,360 --> 01:15:06,679
Speaker 3: the most talented team in basketball. The difference between most

1686
01:15:06,800 --> 01:15:10,120
Speaker 3: fans in the Green teamers, which I think is a

1687
01:15:10,240 --> 01:15:14,800
Speaker 3: small section of Celtics fans, right, Evan's part of that.

1688
01:15:15,280 --> 01:15:18,559
Speaker 3: You're a green teamer. Every other team stinks. Every other

1689
01:15:18,640 --> 01:15:19,200
Speaker 3: team stinks.

1690
01:15:19,280 --> 01:15:21,519
Speaker 5: Well, do you find it interesting that the top three

1691
01:15:21,600 --> 01:15:24,040
Speaker 5: teams in the playoffs all lost their first game?

1692
01:15:24,360 --> 01:15:26,040
Speaker 1: It is interesting, Okay, See.

1693
01:15:26,680 --> 01:15:29,599
Speaker 3: Obviously the three home teams have lost so far. Yeah,

1694
01:15:29,800 --> 01:15:30,840
Speaker 3: the fourth one is tonight.

1695
01:15:31,000 --> 01:15:33,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, but it's not it's a six to seven series,

1696
01:15:33,400 --> 01:15:37,280
Speaker 4: a weird series. But yeah, it's that made me feel better.

1697
01:15:37,280 --> 01:15:39,240
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna lie. Yeah, I woke up this morning

1698
01:15:39,280 --> 01:15:40,639
Speaker 4: and I didn't say that for the whole.

1699
01:15:40,600 --> 01:15:41,639
Speaker 3: Unbelievable choke.

1700
01:15:43,280 --> 01:15:43,439
Speaker 11: To me.

1701
01:15:43,600 --> 01:15:46,240
Speaker 5: What it says is that there is such a separation

1702
01:15:46,400 --> 01:15:48,559
Speaker 5: between those teams and the and their opponent, and they

1703
01:15:48,720 --> 01:15:48,960
Speaker 5: know it.

1704
01:15:49,479 --> 01:15:52,160
Speaker 1: That they came in just like we're just going to

1705
01:15:52,240 --> 01:15:52,800
Speaker 1: cruise through this.

1706
01:15:53,120 --> 01:15:55,599
Speaker 4: Yeah. Well, yeah, I mean I woke up this morning

1707
01:15:55,640 --> 01:15:58,120
Speaker 4: and I saw the the okase he choked it away too,

1708
01:15:58,200 --> 01:16:00,479
Speaker 4: and it kind of made me feel a little bit better. Like, Okay,

1709
01:16:00,520 --> 01:16:02,320
Speaker 4: it does have to throw up fourteen in the Yeah,

1710
01:16:02,920 --> 01:16:04,439
Speaker 4: I mean, I think the thunder have been the best

1711
01:16:04,439 --> 01:16:06,760
Speaker 4: team in the league all year and so see them

1712
01:16:07,080 --> 01:16:09,240
Speaker 4: choke an elite at home in the playoffs.

1713
01:16:09,439 --> 01:16:12,439
Speaker 3: That separates him from Celtics fans. Like the true died

1714
01:16:12,479 --> 01:16:14,439
Speaker 3: in the world Green teamers would never say that another

1715
01:16:14,479 --> 01:16:16,439
Speaker 3: team has been the best team in the life. I'd

1716
01:16:16,520 --> 01:16:20,400
Speaker 3: never ever say that. Vintage Patriots fans would never say

1717
01:16:20,439 --> 01:16:23,439
Speaker 3: that either, right when they when they played the Kansas

1718
01:16:23,479 --> 01:16:26,160
Speaker 3: City sucked. They went into Kansas City and beat them

1719
01:16:26,200 --> 01:16:29,280
Speaker 3: in the epic AFC Championship game, but they sucked according

1720
01:16:29,320 --> 01:16:31,080
Speaker 3: to Patriots fans. When I think it's one of the

1721
01:16:31,080 --> 01:16:33,639
Speaker 3: greatest wins in all of this runs history.

1722
01:16:33,840 --> 01:16:36,559
Speaker 4: Now, when I saw him, okay, see another one who

1723
01:16:36,640 --> 01:16:39,679
Speaker 4: sucked Celtics play Okay, see earlier this year in Boston.

1724
01:16:40,080 --> 01:16:42,360
Speaker 4: That was the first time and since they played the

1725
01:16:42,400 --> 01:16:44,280
Speaker 4: Warriors in twenty twenty two in the finals where I

1726
01:16:44,360 --> 01:16:46,280
Speaker 4: was like, this team might be better than the Celtics,

1727
01:16:46,360 --> 01:16:48,640
Speaker 4: Like I legitimately was worried. I was like, oh no,

1728
01:16:49,240 --> 01:16:51,280
Speaker 4: like someone might be better than competition.

1729
01:16:51,439 --> 01:16:56,559
Speaker 5: Yeah, this is not good, Brian writes in he asked,

1730
01:16:56,600 --> 01:16:59,439
Speaker 5: did Josh McDaniels bang the table for Trevion Henderson give

1731
01:16:59,439 --> 01:17:02,880
Speaker 5: any spence time at Ohio State last year? And ps

1732
01:17:03,400 --> 01:17:06,080
Speaker 5: always puts a smile on my face, and Paul takes

1733
01:17:06,120 --> 01:17:06,719
Speaker 5: it away.

1734
01:17:07,400 --> 01:17:08,960
Speaker 3: Always puts a smile on my face too.

1735
01:17:09,320 --> 01:17:09,720
Speaker 11: I try.

1736
01:17:10,720 --> 01:17:12,960
Speaker 8: I don't know about that. I mean, I mean went

1737
01:17:13,000 --> 01:17:14,040
Speaker 8: to Ohio State too.

1738
01:17:13,960 --> 01:17:17,200
Speaker 1: And he did talk to but he was there visiting.

1739
01:17:17,479 --> 01:17:20,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, I talked to the running backs coach and he

1740
01:17:20,600 --> 01:17:22,560
Speaker 3: did mention that that was the first time you know

1741
01:17:22,640 --> 01:17:25,240
Speaker 3: that he had met Josh McDaniels. Was that trip that

1742
01:17:25,400 --> 01:17:27,479
Speaker 3: Mike and I sort of we broke that Mike we

1743
01:17:27,560 --> 01:17:32,439
Speaker 3: broke that everyone believes, and so it might have had

1744
01:17:32,680 --> 01:17:33,960
Speaker 3: might have had something to do with it. We know

1745
01:17:34,040 --> 01:17:36,240
Speaker 3: that they were looking for that type of back, a

1746
01:17:36,320 --> 01:17:39,439
Speaker 3: guy with versatility to catch passes and have some speed.

1747
01:17:39,800 --> 01:17:43,120
Speaker 3: They wanted some juice in the backfield, so that profile

1748
01:17:43,200 --> 01:17:46,280
Speaker 3: of a back was on their radar. And I wouldn't

1749
01:17:46,280 --> 01:17:50,160
Speaker 3: be surprised if if that sort of was the start

1750
01:17:50,280 --> 01:17:52,000
Speaker 3: of their interest in Trevyon Henderson.

1751
01:17:52,160 --> 01:17:56,280
Speaker 7: Sure absolutely to announce the rookie numbers. So Travon Henderson

1752
01:17:56,280 --> 01:17:57,280
Speaker 7: will be wearing thirty two.

1753
01:17:57,439 --> 01:17:59,160
Speaker 8: Excited about that, Yeah, thirty.

1754
01:17:59,160 --> 01:18:02,240
Speaker 7: Running back number again and even d Mac interact a

1755
01:18:02,240 --> 01:18:06,679
Speaker 7: little interaction with so yeah, so, I said Ashton Grant.

1756
01:18:06,720 --> 01:18:10,519
Speaker 4: But it's Riley Larkin was at Ohio State last year

1757
01:18:10,560 --> 01:18:12,840
Speaker 4: and he's now on the Patriots as an assistant coach,

1758
01:18:13,479 --> 01:18:16,120
Speaker 4: just an offensive assistant, not a position coach yet. But

1759
01:18:16,760 --> 01:18:19,280
Speaker 4: he was just at Ohio State a year ago for

1760
01:18:19,360 --> 01:18:23,439
Speaker 4: their championship run. But one thing that my attendant is up.

1761
01:18:23,920 --> 01:18:26,439
Speaker 4: Little thing that we heard from Josh Dobbs, you heard

1762
01:18:26,439 --> 01:18:30,320
Speaker 4: it from Drake may last week, is you know, McDaniel's

1763
01:18:30,320 --> 01:18:32,360
Speaker 4: putting everything back on the quarterback.

1764
01:18:32,479 --> 01:18:34,200
Speaker 1: Shoing how Tom did it?

1765
01:18:36,720 --> 01:18:38,800
Speaker 4: Am I allowed to be like small sea concerned about that,

1766
01:18:39,320 --> 01:18:40,840
Speaker 4: Like I don't want to make a big deal about it.

1767
01:18:40,960 --> 01:18:45,160
Speaker 3: It's may Go. He's a young.

1768
01:18:45,080 --> 01:18:47,160
Speaker 4: Quarterback still, like it's still only his second year in

1769
01:18:47,200 --> 01:18:48,800
Speaker 4: the league. And if you're gonna expect him to get

1770
01:18:48,880 --> 01:18:51,200
Speaker 4: up there and be the maestro at the you know,

1771
01:18:51,320 --> 01:18:54,639
Speaker 4: keyboard and be able to call out mics and move

1772
01:18:54,720 --> 01:18:58,560
Speaker 4: protections and sniff out blitzes, and I just hope that

1773
01:18:58,600 --> 01:19:00,559
Speaker 4: they don't put too much on his plate in that regard.

1774
01:19:00,720 --> 01:19:03,160
Speaker 4: Like I know with Mac he kind of handheld it

1775
01:19:03,240 --> 01:19:06,160
Speaker 4: his way through it. For most of Max's rookie years,

1776
01:19:06,240 --> 01:19:08,759
Speaker 4: it wasn't you know, completely, you know, in the headset

1777
01:19:08,880 --> 01:19:10,840
Speaker 4: was still on. He would help him and stuff like that.

1778
01:19:11,120 --> 01:19:13,559
Speaker 4: But I just that was just one thing.

1779
01:19:13,960 --> 01:19:14,880
Speaker 1: I heard that too.

1780
01:19:15,240 --> 01:19:17,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, a lot on the quarterback.

1781
01:19:17,080 --> 01:19:19,240
Speaker 3: Because last I think it was last Thursday, right that

1782
01:19:19,360 --> 01:19:22,000
Speaker 3: Drake spoke to the media and you know, you guys

1783
01:19:22,120 --> 01:19:23,840
Speaker 3: came in. I think you and Alex had gone to

1784
01:19:24,000 --> 01:19:27,680
Speaker 3: that and sort of filled us in on some of that.

1785
01:19:28,200 --> 01:19:30,920
Speaker 3: Listening to some of those answers about the offense and

1786
01:19:30,960 --> 01:19:34,160
Speaker 3: about the verbiage, and he kept mentioning the verbiage a lot,

1787
01:19:34,280 --> 01:19:35,720
Speaker 3: and we don't want, we want to try to get

1788
01:19:35,760 --> 01:19:38,200
Speaker 3: away from the way we used to call it. Listening

1789
01:19:38,240 --> 01:19:41,720
Speaker 3: to him talk about it gave me the small Sea

1790
01:19:41,800 --> 01:19:45,320
Speaker 3: concern too, like it sounded like this is kind of hard.

1791
01:19:45,520 --> 01:19:49,080
Speaker 7: Yeah, adds another layer to my two concerns, which are

1792
01:19:49,120 --> 01:19:52,479
Speaker 7: cutting down the interceptions and delivering and clutch and those

1793
01:19:52,560 --> 01:19:54,200
Speaker 7: are things where if there's a lot on your plate,

1794
01:19:54,840 --> 01:19:57,439
Speaker 7: you might make an absent minded error with an interception,

1795
01:19:57,680 --> 01:20:00,920
Speaker 7: or you might not be able to run everything as efficiency.

1796
01:20:00,960 --> 01:20:03,120
Speaker 7: When all the pressures on the clock's ticking, it's getting

1797
01:20:03,160 --> 01:20:04,000
Speaker 7: down to the end of the game.

1798
01:20:04,280 --> 01:20:05,960
Speaker 8: It puts a little bit more on those two.

1799
01:20:06,040 --> 01:20:08,519
Speaker 3: Now I am expecting the interceptions to go down because

1800
01:20:08,560 --> 01:20:10,679
Speaker 3: I think that's going to be a real point of emphasis,

1801
01:20:11,160 --> 01:20:13,920
Speaker 3: and I think they're good coaches. So it's like when

1802
01:20:13,960 --> 01:20:16,040
Speaker 3: a team comes in. You know, when Bill Parcells came

1803
01:20:16,080 --> 01:20:20,320
Speaker 3: in and had my boy as his number one overall

1804
01:20:20,800 --> 01:20:23,160
Speaker 3: draft pick and rookie quarterback, and they have been sacks

1805
01:20:23,800 --> 01:20:27,040
Speaker 3: like nine thousand times in ninety two. He just went

1806
01:20:27,080 --> 01:20:28,800
Speaker 3: in and had one goal, and that was to cut

1807
01:20:28,840 --> 01:20:31,800
Speaker 3: the number of sacks, you know, dramatically, and they did.

1808
01:20:32,000 --> 01:20:36,519
Speaker 3: With a rookie number one overall pick. Their sacks. I mean,

1809
01:20:36,520 --> 01:20:37,840
Speaker 3: I don't have the numbers in front of me, but

1810
01:20:37,880 --> 01:20:41,600
Speaker 3: their sacks went from like sixty to twenty something like that.

1811
01:20:42,720 --> 01:20:46,040
Speaker 3: And because they put a real point of emphasis on it,

1812
01:20:46,120 --> 01:20:49,720
Speaker 3: I'd be shocked if Josh doesn't say, Okay, this is

1813
01:20:49,760 --> 01:20:52,599
Speaker 3: what we need to avoid. Now that might be at

1814
01:20:52,640 --> 01:20:54,400
Speaker 3: the expense of making some plays, which is going to

1815
01:20:54,439 --> 01:20:56,720
Speaker 3: bother say right as I was just gonna say, a.

1816
01:20:56,720 --> 01:20:58,640
Speaker 8: Conservative hold them back a little bit.

1817
01:20:58,680 --> 01:21:02,400
Speaker 3: They gotta think the interception total is good, you know,

1818
01:21:02,520 --> 01:21:04,080
Speaker 3: the percentage is going to drop a little bit.

1819
01:21:04,160 --> 01:21:06,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, And to be fair, I think McDaniels during the

1820
01:21:06,680 --> 01:21:08,519
Speaker 4: year off was it might have been with Edelman, might

1821
01:21:08,560 --> 01:21:10,680
Speaker 4: have been games with names that he was on, and

1822
01:21:10,760 --> 01:21:14,360
Speaker 4: he was talking about how to develop a young quarterback

1823
01:21:14,479 --> 01:21:17,240
Speaker 4: and he mentioned that you don't just throw him in

1824
01:21:17,280 --> 01:21:19,160
Speaker 4: the deep end with all this type of stuff, right,

1825
01:21:19,280 --> 01:21:21,200
Speaker 4: like you kind of add a little bit as you go.

1826
01:21:21,520 --> 01:21:24,840
Speaker 4: But it just last year they made a point to

1827
01:21:24,920 --> 01:21:26,640
Speaker 4: take it off the quarterback and put it on the

1828
01:21:26,720 --> 01:21:28,800
Speaker 4: center to make all of the calls and things like that.

1829
01:21:29,560 --> 01:21:33,320
Speaker 4: And I just wonder if, especially when he's a young guy,

1830
01:21:33,960 --> 01:21:36,960
Speaker 4: if there's something to be said for taking that off

1831
01:21:37,040 --> 01:21:39,920
Speaker 4: his plate and letting him just kind of play. And

1832
01:21:40,040 --> 01:21:42,200
Speaker 4: then maybe as he grows and as he gets older

1833
01:21:42,280 --> 01:21:44,720
Speaker 4: and then he says, I want the controls, you know,

1834
01:21:44,760 --> 01:21:46,919
Speaker 4: I need more control at the line of scrimmage.

1835
01:21:46,920 --> 01:21:50,240
Speaker 1: How many teams do it quarterback for a center, would

1836
01:21:50,280 --> 01:21:50,559
Speaker 1: you say?

1837
01:21:51,880 --> 01:21:55,040
Speaker 4: I would say most of them are center based, really, yeah,

1838
01:21:55,240 --> 01:21:56,559
Speaker 4: a vast majority of them.

1839
01:21:56,640 --> 01:21:58,240
Speaker 1: And I would think it'd be the other way around.

1840
01:21:58,560 --> 01:22:00,559
Speaker 4: Well, I mean, look at you know, there's a clip

1841
01:22:00,640 --> 01:22:03,400
Speaker 4: going around now that has been around for years. But

1842
01:22:03,560 --> 01:22:05,360
Speaker 4: like Jeff Saturday used to make all the calls in

1843
01:22:05,400 --> 01:22:10,840
Speaker 4: Indianapolis for Peyton, you know, for years. Really, Yeah, so

1844
01:22:10,960 --> 01:22:11,240
Speaker 4: what was.

1845
01:22:11,280 --> 01:22:12,120
Speaker 1: All the nonsense?

1846
01:22:12,439 --> 01:22:14,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, A lot of it was I know, I know

1847
01:22:14,680 --> 01:22:15,840
Speaker 3: a lot of it was smoke screen.

1848
01:22:15,920 --> 01:22:18,520
Speaker 1: But yeah, Peyton wasn't making calls.

1849
01:22:18,280 --> 01:22:18,760
Speaker 10: At the line.

1850
01:22:18,840 --> 01:22:20,720
Speaker 4: No, A lot of it ran through their center and

1851
01:22:20,760 --> 01:22:23,679
Speaker 4: Jeff Saturday and I'll did you hear them over Peyton?

1852
01:22:24,120 --> 01:22:25,960
Speaker 4: I don't know, I just him telling you are you

1853
01:22:26,040 --> 01:22:26,600
Speaker 4: sure about that?

1854
01:22:26,880 --> 01:22:27,920
Speaker 1: Yeah? Okay?

1855
01:22:28,320 --> 01:22:29,600
Speaker 4: And and you know Peyton just.

1856
01:22:29,840 --> 01:22:31,120
Speaker 1: People trying to diminish Peyton.

1857
01:22:31,200 --> 01:22:34,360
Speaker 3: Manning check out of like runs and stuff like, you know,

1858
01:22:34,479 --> 01:22:37,840
Speaker 3: into runs a lot, famously in the AFC Championship game

1859
01:22:37,880 --> 01:22:40,320
Speaker 3: in six. I believe that was a check into a

1860
01:22:40,439 --> 01:22:43,080
Speaker 3: run that they ended up walking into the end zone.

1861
01:22:44,080 --> 01:22:46,160
Speaker 3: I think he I think Manning actually gave credit to

1862
01:22:46,200 --> 01:22:49,639
Speaker 3: Marvin Harrison saying, you know, Marvin, of all people wanted

1863
01:22:49,680 --> 01:22:52,320
Speaker 3: to run the ball, you know when they got down there.

1864
01:22:52,520 --> 01:22:53,559
Speaker 11: Getting lit up all game.

1865
01:22:54,120 --> 01:22:58,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, So, I mean, I think there's probably I don't know,

1866
01:22:59,000 --> 01:23:01,919
Speaker 3: I think some of that is probably a little bit overblown,

1867
01:23:02,040 --> 01:23:06,840
Speaker 3: But I do think this is going now? What four

1868
01:23:08,360 --> 01:23:09,960
Speaker 3: five years in a row for Drake May with a

1869
01:23:10,000 --> 01:23:12,080
Speaker 3: different offensive court, four years in a row going back

1870
01:23:12,120 --> 01:23:13,920
Speaker 3: to college, two years in college and now the two

1871
01:23:13,960 --> 01:23:17,040
Speaker 3: years in the pros. That's four different offensive coordinators. Yeah,

1872
01:23:17,479 --> 01:23:19,559
Speaker 3: you know, that's that's tough.

1873
01:23:19,640 --> 01:23:20,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's tough.

1874
01:23:20,479 --> 01:23:24,200
Speaker 4: That'sah. And there was regression at North Carolina from his

1875
01:23:24,320 --> 01:23:26,240
Speaker 4: true sophomore year to his true junior.

1876
01:23:26,040 --> 01:23:29,160
Speaker 3: And everybody blew that off as to was poor coaching.

1877
01:23:29,240 --> 01:23:30,880
Speaker 4: And it may have been, and he also lost some

1878
01:23:31,040 --> 01:23:31,880
Speaker 4: players to the NFL.

1879
01:23:32,000 --> 01:23:33,600
Speaker 3: Right, it may have been part of that, but it

1880
01:23:33,680 --> 01:23:34,880
Speaker 3: also it's just it's tough.

1881
01:23:35,040 --> 01:23:36,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's tough.

1882
01:23:36,360 --> 01:23:39,080
Speaker 5: Ford and Savannah, Georgia. Last show, you kind of glossed

1883
01:23:39,120 --> 01:23:41,680
Speaker 5: over two lines that made me laugh out loud. The

1884
01:23:41,760 --> 01:23:44,519
Speaker 5: first one was the darkest, lash funniest thing I've ever heard,

1885
01:23:44,680 --> 01:23:47,639
Speaker 5: right up my alley. When Paul said that Tim Tim

1886
01:23:47,760 --> 01:23:51,800
Speaker 5: Tebill failed, I almost spit up my water. I guess

1887
01:23:52,400 --> 01:23:58,640
Speaker 5: at mentoring Hernandez. Probably later in the show, Deuce with

1888
01:23:58,720 --> 01:24:00,400
Speaker 5: the Jets are in your fifth do you want of

1889
01:24:00,439 --> 01:24:01,360
Speaker 5: a rebuilt.

1890
01:24:03,600 --> 01:24:05,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, Jets catching them straight today.

1891
01:24:06,040 --> 01:24:08,400
Speaker 3: That's what we do well we do and I'm here

1892
01:24:08,439 --> 01:24:11,000
Speaker 3: for those like I hate the Jets, and the Jets

1893
01:24:11,040 --> 01:24:14,360
Speaker 3: are always because the Jets, Like when I was growing up,

1894
01:24:15,200 --> 01:24:17,360
Speaker 3: the Jets were just like the Patriots. They just couldn't

1895
01:24:17,360 --> 01:24:19,240
Speaker 3: get out of their own way. But for some reason

1896
01:24:19,320 --> 01:24:21,479
Speaker 3: it was New York and everybody's like, got the Jets,

1897
01:24:21,880 --> 01:24:24,080
Speaker 3: this is a Jets year, and everybody was like the Patriots.

1898
01:24:24,200 --> 01:24:24,360
Speaker 10: Thak.

1899
01:24:25,040 --> 01:24:27,200
Speaker 3: You know, I was like, why are they considered so

1900
01:24:27,320 --> 01:24:28,960
Speaker 3: much better than us? What did they ever do? What

1901
01:24:29,080 --> 01:24:30,880
Speaker 3: did they ever take on? You know, it's a little

1902
01:24:31,000 --> 01:24:33,280
Speaker 3: channeling of the inside, like maybe eight nine, ten year

1903
01:24:33,320 --> 01:24:33,800
Speaker 3: old PAULI.

1904
01:24:34,040 --> 01:24:37,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, see, finally some fandom comes anytime I you know.

1905
01:24:37,439 --> 01:24:39,920
Speaker 3: That's where the passion. But that's where the passion comes from,

1906
01:24:40,560 --> 01:24:42,759
Speaker 3: is like that irrational fandom.

1907
01:24:43,080 --> 01:24:45,760
Speaker 5: Well, I'll tell you I never hated the Jets more. Well,

1908
01:24:45,800 --> 01:24:48,800
Speaker 5: I hated him you love to do sixty nine in

1909
01:24:48,880 --> 01:24:51,800
Speaker 5: your defense during the Border War, Like I hated him.

1910
01:24:52,120 --> 01:24:55,439
Speaker 5: But then my hatred was really really renewed in the

1911
01:24:55,520 --> 01:24:57,680
Speaker 5: Rex Ryan era because he knew how to need it,

1912
01:24:57,840 --> 01:25:00,120
Speaker 5: like he knew like if you were a fan and

1913
01:25:00,280 --> 01:25:03,360
Speaker 5: like me, like you hated Rex Ryan although you appreciated

1914
01:25:03,400 --> 01:25:04,800
Speaker 5: what he was doing, like.

1915
01:25:06,000 --> 01:25:06,280
Speaker 10: I was.

1916
01:25:09,160 --> 01:25:13,599
Speaker 3: The Border War brought out all kinds of irrational hatred

1917
01:25:13,720 --> 01:25:16,040
Speaker 3: for me, Like I was so mad, like a as

1918
01:25:16,120 --> 01:25:19,280
Speaker 3: you guys know, I was Team Parcels, and I was like,

1919
01:25:19,360 --> 01:25:21,920
Speaker 3: now they got our guy, and now our guy is

1920
01:25:21,960 --> 01:25:24,080
Speaker 3: making us look bad with half the amount of talent

1921
01:25:24,160 --> 01:25:26,559
Speaker 3: that our team has. I was like, those are bad,

1922
01:25:26,640 --> 01:25:28,840
Speaker 3: those are bad times for me. The first game that

1923
01:25:28,920 --> 01:25:32,120
Speaker 3: they actually won, remember when the Mike Jones blocked the

1924
01:25:32,120 --> 01:25:34,760
Speaker 3: field goals It was Mike Jones right, yes, yeah, he

1925
01:25:34,840 --> 01:25:36,640
Speaker 3: took a war goal and they won an overtime the

1926
01:25:36,720 --> 01:25:39,200
Speaker 3: first tunable and I was so mad after that game.

1927
01:25:39,439 --> 01:25:41,080
Speaker 3: It was like they might as well have lost like

1928
01:25:41,160 --> 01:25:42,760
Speaker 3: eight in a row. That's how mad I was.

1929
01:25:42,800 --> 01:25:43,040
Speaker 4: I was.

1930
01:25:43,240 --> 01:25:45,640
Speaker 3: I would play real that they played that poorly and

1931
01:25:45,800 --> 01:25:49,519
Speaker 3: left that team solely because the other team's coach pants

1932
01:25:49,640 --> 01:25:52,160
Speaker 3: dark coach. I was so mad I was, I was.

1933
01:25:52,640 --> 01:25:53,840
Speaker 3: I was irrationally mad.

1934
01:25:54,320 --> 01:25:57,080
Speaker 5: I remember remember the game we lost against the Jets

1935
01:25:57,160 --> 01:25:57,760
Speaker 5: at their place.

1936
01:25:57,840 --> 01:25:59,559
Speaker 3: Oh, I was even mad at that way when Lawyer

1937
01:25:59,640 --> 01:26:03,200
Speaker 3: molloy was on the team and over there they have

1938
01:26:03,320 --> 01:26:04,240
Speaker 3: what we we want.

1939
01:26:04,400 --> 01:26:06,960
Speaker 1: It's like, oh I was so mad at him, Like

1940
01:26:07,080 --> 01:26:07,879
Speaker 1: stop whining.

1941
01:26:07,960 --> 01:26:08,760
Speaker 3: I wasn't mad at him.

1942
01:26:08,840 --> 01:26:12,120
Speaker 5: And they broke the was somebody punched the cooler in

1943
01:26:12,280 --> 01:26:14,920
Speaker 5: the visiting locker room. We got charged for ye in

1944
01:26:15,000 --> 01:26:15,799
Speaker 5: the meadow lands.

1945
01:26:15,640 --> 01:26:17,880
Speaker 3: We got you never told me about story? Yeah, what

1946
01:26:18,280 --> 01:26:21,040
Speaker 3: what was it like when they set the Curtis Martin.

1947
01:26:21,960 --> 01:26:24,800
Speaker 1: That was another poison pill, an one the poison pill.

1948
01:26:24,880 --> 01:26:27,120
Speaker 7: You were in the building for that right before your

1949
01:26:27,680 --> 01:26:31,240
Speaker 7: pre Paul, Yeah, oh yeah, were furious again, Like yeah,

1950
01:26:31,360 --> 01:26:33,680
Speaker 7: I know, like you don't think this like I was.

1951
01:26:34,080 --> 01:26:38,800
Speaker 3: I was sitting on those cold benches. I was as

1952
01:26:38,880 --> 01:26:41,639
Speaker 3: passionate as anybody. It's just a little different when you're

1953
01:26:42,400 --> 01:26:45,080
Speaker 3: sort of like at your job. But like at the time,

1954
01:26:45,600 --> 01:26:48,400
Speaker 3: I was unbelievably mad when they when they signed Curtis

1955
01:26:48,479 --> 01:26:51,400
Speaker 3: Martin and when parcels last, and like again it was

1956
01:26:51,439 --> 01:26:53,960
Speaker 3: like lawyer said, they have everything that we had and

1957
01:26:54,040 --> 01:26:56,160
Speaker 3: you could see it. It's right there. They became you.

1958
01:26:57,840 --> 01:27:01,360
Speaker 1: All right, it's one. So it's for some Jaws trivia.

1959
01:27:01,520 --> 01:27:03,560
Speaker 4: Oh great, I can't wait for this.

1960
01:27:05,400 --> 01:27:06,559
Speaker 3: So let's go. You ready.

1961
01:27:07,720 --> 01:27:12,600
Speaker 5: Before Steven Spielberg, John Sturgis was attached to direct what

1962
01:27:12,880 --> 01:27:16,080
Speaker 5: was he the reported reason the producers gave him the boot?

1963
01:27:17,400 --> 01:27:20,400
Speaker 3: Jeez, he you don't know. This is more of a

1964
01:27:20,600 --> 01:27:23,439
Speaker 3: deuced question because you're more inside Hollywood, you were probably

1965
01:27:23,479 --> 01:27:25,240
Speaker 3: his He kept calling the shark a whale.

1966
01:27:26,520 --> 01:27:28,439
Speaker 4: I mean, you would have known the difference based off.

1967
01:27:30,120 --> 01:27:31,599
Speaker 8: Whatever. Just get the whale in here.

1968
01:27:32,600 --> 01:27:35,800
Speaker 5: Jaws was the first Hollywood production to have this impressively

1969
01:27:35,920 --> 01:27:37,040
Speaker 5: bad filming.

1970
01:27:36,800 --> 01:27:41,559
Speaker 7: Achievement, impersively bad filming achievement, failing to show a work.

1971
01:27:43,520 --> 01:27:45,639
Speaker 1: It was one hundred days behind shooting schedule.

1972
01:27:46,640 --> 01:27:48,760
Speaker 3: It was it was I knew it was delayed. I

1973
01:27:48,800 --> 01:27:49,960
Speaker 3: didn't know. It was like a record.

1974
01:27:50,720 --> 01:27:54,759
Speaker 5: What major Hooper plot point from the book was changed

1975
01:27:54,880 --> 01:27:57,280
Speaker 5: towards the end of production? And why, hint, it's not

1976
01:27:57,479 --> 01:27:58,880
Speaker 5: his affair with Ellen body.

1977
01:28:01,240 --> 01:28:02,440
Speaker 8: I thought it was moot.

1978
01:28:03,320 --> 01:28:06,840
Speaker 3: I see, there's there's mob ties I believe with the mayor.

1979
01:28:07,000 --> 01:28:09,280
Speaker 3: Oh right, right right, yeah, And that's why he refused

1980
01:28:09,360 --> 01:28:11,599
Speaker 3: in the book. Yeah, that's why they refused to close

1981
01:28:11,680 --> 01:28:13,960
Speaker 3: the beaches. But I always I thought that I thought

1982
01:28:14,000 --> 01:28:16,320
Speaker 3: that Hooper had an affair with missus Chief.

1983
01:28:16,439 --> 01:28:17,080
Speaker 1: He probably did.

1984
01:28:17,520 --> 01:28:19,680
Speaker 5: But the answer is he was supposed to die in

1985
01:28:19,760 --> 01:28:22,840
Speaker 5: the cage, but when filming real shark cage footed for

1986
01:28:22,920 --> 01:28:26,280
Speaker 5: the scene, a great white accidentally attacked the cage without

1987
01:28:26,320 --> 01:28:30,200
Speaker 5: anyone inside, forcing Spielberg to change Hooper's fate.

1988
01:28:30,360 --> 01:28:31,120
Speaker 8: It was great trivia.

1989
01:28:31,120 --> 01:28:33,639
Speaker 3: I didn't know any of these these that's that's next

1990
01:28:33,720 --> 01:28:34,360
Speaker 3: level trivia.

1991
01:28:34,920 --> 01:28:37,599
Speaker 5: Jaws broke the record for most money earned on opening

1992
01:28:37,680 --> 01:28:41,800
Speaker 5: weekend and all time theatrical run until Star Wars. What

1993
01:28:41,960 --> 01:28:45,120
Speaker 5: were the record breaking amounts? Round to the nearest million,

1994
01:28:45,160 --> 01:28:46,200
Speaker 5: closest amount wins?

1995
01:28:46,240 --> 01:28:46,960
Speaker 1: If not spot on?

1996
01:28:47,160 --> 01:28:49,799
Speaker 5: Bonus, if you can guess which movie Jaws the throne

1997
01:28:50,880 --> 01:28:54,240
Speaker 5: at the end of its run. So the opening weekend take,

1998
01:28:54,320 --> 01:28:54,960
Speaker 5: what do you think that.

1999
01:28:55,160 --> 01:28:57,599
Speaker 3: Was back then?

2000
01:28:57,680 --> 01:29:00,160
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say eighty million, seven million.

2001
01:29:00,439 --> 01:29:03,720
Speaker 3: Seven million. I was going to say one hundred What

2002
01:29:03,840 --> 01:29:04,200
Speaker 3: do you think?

2003
01:29:04,640 --> 01:29:07,240
Speaker 1: What do you think? What do you think the theatrical.

2004
01:29:06,720 --> 01:29:10,760
Speaker 8: Run was over the whole courses? Yeah about let's go.

2005
01:29:11,320 --> 01:29:18,000
Speaker 1: On, bonus? What movie did it dethrone?

2006
01:29:18,439 --> 01:29:19,360
Speaker 3: Godfa Godfather?

2007
01:29:19,560 --> 01:29:19,960
Speaker 1: Correct?

2008
01:29:21,080 --> 01:29:23,920
Speaker 3: That was my questions so good questions seven? Got even

2009
01:29:24,000 --> 01:29:24,240
Speaker 3: got it.

2010
01:29:25,880 --> 01:29:28,880
Speaker 7: I'm almost done with my Orca Legos, still got a

2011
01:29:28,920 --> 01:29:31,280
Speaker 7: couple of bags to go. I'm savoring it, just down

2012
01:29:31,320 --> 01:29:32,200
Speaker 7: to the shark Legos.

2013
01:29:32,200 --> 01:29:34,400
Speaker 3: Do you have like a cigar that you can smoke

2014
01:29:34,439 --> 01:29:34,960
Speaker 3: when you're done?

2015
01:29:38,479 --> 01:29:40,280
Speaker 8: A Narrowgancett beer, and then I'll crush.

2016
01:29:41,120 --> 01:29:43,840
Speaker 4: All the kids of Patriots dot Com thought that the

2017
01:29:44,040 --> 01:29:47,479
Speaker 4: Orca was a whale. We were not aware that the

2018
01:29:47,640 --> 01:29:50,280
Speaker 4: Orca was the name of the boat it was, so

2019
01:29:50,439 --> 01:29:52,479
Speaker 4: when Dude showed us a picture of it, we were.

2020
01:29:52,439 --> 01:29:54,280
Speaker 3: Like, this is what we deal with.

2021
01:29:54,760 --> 01:29:55,840
Speaker 1: This is what we rible.

2022
01:29:57,720 --> 01:30:01,599
Speaker 3: Damn it, guys, this is back to you requiring people

2023
01:30:01,720 --> 01:30:02,639
Speaker 3: learn about the history.

2024
01:30:02,960 --> 01:30:05,280
Speaker 1: You probably thought the ss Mino was a little fit

2025
01:30:05,320 --> 01:30:12,360
Speaker 1: thing that one I knew It'lligan's Islands, Boby Dick.

2026
01:30:12,920 --> 01:30:14,600
Speaker 7: Oh my god, I think we got I think we

2027
01:30:14,680 --> 01:30:18,080
Speaker 7: have a content team outing some like Friday Afternoon over

2028
01:30:18,160 --> 01:30:18,760
Speaker 7: Patriot Placed.

2029
01:30:18,760 --> 01:30:20,720
Speaker 8: When jos gets re released. We gotta get some of

2030
01:30:20,760 --> 01:30:22,160
Speaker 8: these kids in there a little party.

2031
01:30:22,200 --> 01:30:23,960
Speaker 4: If you want to fall asleep, you can do that.

2032
01:30:24,880 --> 01:30:25,639
Speaker 1: It'll be one over.

2033
01:30:26,320 --> 01:30:27,599
Speaker 8: This is Cinema Afternoon.

2034
01:30:28,200 --> 01:30:32,639
Speaker 3: But I miss is the boat. It's not tell anybody

2035
01:30:32,760 --> 01:30:33,800
Speaker 3: kill a whale that.

2036
01:30:33,880 --> 01:30:36,400
Speaker 8: Actually can kill sharks. They eat their livers.

2037
01:30:37,040 --> 01:30:37,400
Speaker 11: You know that.

2038
01:30:39,040 --> 01:30:42,960
Speaker 5: Before we learn about Quin's tattoo, what are all the

2039
01:30:43,080 --> 01:30:46,479
Speaker 5: other permanent injuries Quentin and Hooper compare, and if mentioned,

2040
01:30:46,560 --> 01:30:49,519
Speaker 5: how did they occur? Just the injury doesn't count. Bonus

2041
01:30:49,560 --> 01:30:50,559
Speaker 5: If listen in order.

2042
01:30:50,840 --> 01:30:53,960
Speaker 3: We got the bump on the head, fresh little lump.

2043
01:30:53,880 --> 01:30:58,160
Speaker 5: On Quin's head Thresher Sat Days Boston.

2044
01:30:58,439 --> 01:30:58,880
Speaker 1: You got that.

2045
01:30:59,720 --> 01:31:04,000
Speaker 3: Uh, that's one when he met his celebrating the dimise

2046
01:31:04,080 --> 01:31:07,320
Speaker 3: of his third wife. Yeah, I believe right, I don't

2047
01:31:07,360 --> 01:31:09,240
Speaker 3: know he didn't say that. Oh he doesn't have. I

2048
01:31:09,240 --> 01:31:10,800
Speaker 3: thought he had all the knack o'.

2049
01:31:10,760 --> 01:31:12,120
Speaker 1: Nolan's St Patty Day.

2050
01:31:12,360 --> 01:31:15,120
Speaker 3: Yeah then uh yeah, you had the one bit right

2051
01:31:15,160 --> 01:31:15,840
Speaker 3: to his wet suit.

2052
01:31:15,920 --> 01:31:16,920
Speaker 8: Yeah right, yeah yeah.

2053
01:31:18,240 --> 01:31:20,280
Speaker 1: Also yeah, Mary Mary.

2054
01:31:21,640 --> 01:31:23,960
Speaker 3: Broke his heart on Marianna Mary something.

2055
01:31:24,040 --> 01:31:26,799
Speaker 5: Yeah, you got that's broken hard for Mary Ellen Moffatt.

2056
01:31:26,920 --> 01:31:27,519
Speaker 1: So that's three.

2057
01:31:29,200 --> 01:31:35,200
Speaker 3: Uh. Then Chief shows scot he looks at he considers,

2058
01:31:35,560 --> 01:31:36,040
Speaker 3: he looks at it.

2059
01:31:36,360 --> 01:31:37,040
Speaker 8: Should I share this?

2060
01:31:37,240 --> 01:31:38,040
Speaker 1: No, that's not one.

2061
01:31:38,200 --> 01:31:41,680
Speaker 8: The US is Indianapolis, that this is all before, all

2062
01:31:41,720 --> 01:31:42,320
Speaker 8: before the US.

2063
01:31:43,439 --> 01:31:48,439
Speaker 1: He Quin's fake to Yeah, but no reason given. You

2064
01:31:48,560 --> 01:31:49,280
Speaker 1: got the forearm.

2065
01:31:49,360 --> 01:31:52,519
Speaker 5: Scar Quint's forearm can't extend a certain point because a

2066
01:31:52,640 --> 01:31:56,759
Speaker 5: big Chinese fellow beat him in the semi finals wrestling contest.

2067
01:31:57,439 --> 01:32:00,240
Speaker 3: This song on the movie, Yeah it's all in Star

2068
01:32:00,360 --> 01:32:02,920
Speaker 3: when you pay attention to if you were at all

2069
01:32:03,040 --> 01:32:06,320
Speaker 3: interested in the movie, it's one of the great scenes

2070
01:32:06,520 --> 01:32:07,599
Speaker 3: in cinema history.

2071
01:32:07,960 --> 01:32:10,680
Speaker 5: Scar on Hooper's calf when a Bullshark brushed him when

2072
01:32:10,720 --> 01:32:11,639
Speaker 5: collecting samples.

2073
01:32:11,880 --> 01:32:13,400
Speaker 3: Collecting sample samples and.

2074
01:32:13,520 --> 01:32:16,200
Speaker 5: The star on Quinn Shin from a Thrasher's Tale.

2075
01:32:16,400 --> 01:32:19,680
Speaker 3: Oh so I missed. Yeah, we watched that. We watched that.

2076
01:32:19,880 --> 01:32:22,200
Speaker 3: It's good though we're not We're not anywhere nearest.

2077
01:32:22,760 --> 01:32:24,599
Speaker 4: What's going on with you to you guys are after game?

2078
01:32:24,800 --> 01:32:25,360
Speaker 3: What are we doing?

2079
01:32:25,800 --> 01:32:26,080
Speaker 11: I don't know?

2080
01:32:26,120 --> 01:32:28,800
Speaker 3: I mean, Harty was asking me, I want to hang

2081
01:32:28,840 --> 01:32:29,360
Speaker 3: out with this guy?

2082
01:32:29,400 --> 01:32:30,280
Speaker 11: Though? What keys?

2083
01:32:30,479 --> 01:32:32,400
Speaker 8: Was the is the theme in like what are the

2084
01:32:32,479 --> 01:32:33,600
Speaker 8: two piano keys of.

2085
01:32:34,160 --> 01:32:35,760
Speaker 3: Trying to get Mike and I to go to some

2086
01:32:36,040 --> 01:32:38,160
Speaker 3: like musical job.

2087
01:32:38,800 --> 01:32:39,479
Speaker 8: Yeah, they're gonna well.

2088
01:32:39,520 --> 01:32:41,720
Speaker 7: Keith Lockhart and the pops are playing the soundtrack to

2089
01:32:41,840 --> 01:32:43,200
Speaker 7: Jaws while they play the movie.

2090
01:32:43,560 --> 01:32:44,880
Speaker 4: Isn't it just one didful thing?

2091
01:32:45,320 --> 01:32:47,519
Speaker 8: You know, it's a whole score event and it's a movie.

2092
01:32:48,640 --> 01:32:53,240
Speaker 3: Disrepect Now he's disrepected John John Williams, who is arguably

2093
01:32:53,360 --> 01:32:56,720
Speaker 3: the greatest movie composer in history, right sixty five here

2094
01:32:56,960 --> 01:32:59,120
Speaker 3: like storied history, and what's the one that's like that's

2095
01:32:59,200 --> 01:33:02,120
Speaker 3: just one song that sounds like you talking about Red Dawn.

2096
01:33:02,280 --> 01:33:03,840
Speaker 4: It's like this the shark song.

2097
01:33:03,920 --> 01:33:04,160
Speaker 3: That's it.

2098
01:33:04,760 --> 01:33:05,680
Speaker 4: I mean, there's nothing going.

2099
01:33:05,640 --> 01:33:07,160
Speaker 3: To be we get Patriot players in here. I want

2100
01:33:07,160 --> 01:33:08,479
Speaker 3: to find some guys at have scene jaws.

2101
01:33:09,080 --> 01:33:10,320
Speaker 4: They're all younger than me, so.

2102
01:33:10,560 --> 01:33:13,280
Speaker 5: Probably so when Josh Stobbs was here, we got into

2103
01:33:13,360 --> 01:33:14,880
Speaker 5: a little bit of Star Wars talk.

2104
01:33:15,080 --> 01:33:16,559
Speaker 1: Robin and Alaska wright.

2105
01:33:16,439 --> 01:33:19,960
Speaker 5: Say, George Lucas added episode numbers to the Star Wars

2106
01:33:20,040 --> 01:33:22,679
Speaker 5: film in nineteen eighty one when he realized he'd likely

2107
01:33:22,800 --> 01:33:25,280
Speaker 5: have the money to make the entire story he'd envision.

2108
01:33:25,600 --> 01:33:27,600
Speaker 5: I could be wrong, but I think that means the

2109
01:33:27,680 --> 01:33:31,160
Speaker 5: titles are older than Evan regardless. Evan's take about how

2110
01:33:31,320 --> 01:33:34,320
Speaker 5: sane people say they are one, two, and three feels

2111
01:33:34,360 --> 01:33:37,559
Speaker 5: as hilarious as how he hates watermelon because it's wet

2112
01:33:37,920 --> 01:33:40,800
Speaker 5: and can't stand Pam Beasley because she wanted to paint.

2113
01:33:42,720 --> 01:33:45,520
Speaker 4: There's a lot of reasons for hating Pam Beasley that aren't.

2114
01:33:45,240 --> 01:33:47,599
Speaker 3: About I'm gonna defend on the on the Pam Beasley

2115
01:33:47,640 --> 01:33:50,120
Speaker 3: thing because a lot of people have a very similar opinion.

2116
01:33:51,040 --> 01:33:55,559
Speaker 4: Now the Star Wars movies, they're just the originals are

2117
01:33:55,680 --> 01:33:58,280
Speaker 4: in like a trilogy of their own to me, and

2118
01:33:58,360 --> 01:34:01,439
Speaker 4: then every there's kind of everything else and the periphery.

2119
01:34:01,520 --> 01:34:05,000
Speaker 4: But the Originals are on a pedestal by themselves, so

2120
01:34:05,160 --> 01:34:07,360
Speaker 4: they're one two three. Okay, that's all.

2121
01:34:07,840 --> 01:34:10,040
Speaker 5: Let's get back to the phones eight five five pats

2122
01:34:10,080 --> 01:34:15,439
Speaker 5: five hundred. We'll start with Brent in West Virginia. Hey, Brent, Hey, Hey,

2123
01:34:16,520 --> 01:34:19,240
Speaker 5: all right, hey, if I.

2124
01:34:19,320 --> 01:34:21,760
Speaker 2: Had a question, and a few episodes ago, he was

2125
01:34:21,840 --> 01:34:26,559
Speaker 2: talking about Skarnaikia term me and I was just wondering

2126
01:34:26,600 --> 01:34:29,280
Speaker 2: if there's any chance, I hate there's some private list

2127
01:34:29,320 --> 01:34:30,160
Speaker 2: and Will.

2128
01:34:29,960 --> 01:34:32,360
Speaker 1: Campbell I don't know.

2129
01:34:32,520 --> 01:34:35,160
Speaker 5: I you know, I know he's available and thanks for

2130
01:34:35,240 --> 01:34:38,840
Speaker 5: the call. I know he's made himself available during the

2131
01:34:38,880 --> 01:34:42,320
Speaker 5: off season to do some stuff. But you know, we'll

2132
01:34:42,360 --> 01:34:43,120
Speaker 5: have to see about that.

2133
01:34:43,640 --> 01:34:44,599
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm all for a scar.

2134
01:34:44,640 --> 01:34:46,160
Speaker 7: I hate I hate always being the guy that's like

2135
01:34:46,280 --> 01:34:48,840
Speaker 7: scars retired. Like, but how much does like, you know,

2136
01:34:49,080 --> 01:34:51,080
Speaker 7: a couple hours with him work, Like I think I

2137
01:34:51,160 --> 01:34:52,320
Speaker 7: feel like offensive line coach.

2138
01:34:52,400 --> 01:34:53,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, you need to drill.

2139
01:34:54,200 --> 01:34:57,000
Speaker 4: Training the guys at Boston College. Uh, you know, Trapelo

2140
01:34:57,160 --> 01:35:01,000
Speaker 4: and Drew Kendall. I don't know if Jack con who

2141
01:35:01,080 --> 01:35:03,320
Speaker 4: the Patriots reportedly signed as an undrafted free agent, he

2142
01:35:03,400 --> 01:35:05,960
Speaker 4: might have been working with him. So he's he's doing uh,

2143
01:35:06,080 --> 01:35:08,160
Speaker 4: you know, the like the all the private trainers we

2144
01:35:08,240 --> 01:35:11,360
Speaker 4: talk about all the time. But Will Campbell's working with

2145
01:35:11,479 --> 01:35:14,920
Speaker 4: Duke Mannyweather. I wrote about that in my my feature,

2146
01:35:15,680 --> 01:35:18,599
Speaker 4: and Duke is really well respected in the offensive line

2147
01:35:18,640 --> 01:35:23,760
Speaker 4: community as a trainer, coach, former player. So he's he's

2148
01:35:23,880 --> 01:35:27,560
Speaker 4: got a guy, yeah as of right now. But it

2149
01:35:27,600 --> 01:35:30,000
Speaker 4: couldn't it couldn't hurt obviously, I'm not saying that, but

2150
01:35:30,160 --> 01:35:31,240
Speaker 4: he does have a guy.

2151
01:35:31,280 --> 01:35:34,240
Speaker 5: I feel like Scarneckia might be, you know, break glass

2152
01:35:34,280 --> 01:35:35,920
Speaker 5: in case of emergency.

2153
01:35:36,040 --> 01:35:37,360
Speaker 8: Isn't going right, what's going on?

2154
01:35:37,439 --> 01:35:38,240
Speaker 1: We shouldn't need.

2155
01:35:38,200 --> 01:35:40,639
Speaker 4: Him, Yeah, I would say the biggest advantage about scar

2156
01:35:40,800 --> 01:35:45,519
Speaker 4: is that he obviously is totally familiar with Josh mcdaniels's offense,

2157
01:35:45,560 --> 01:35:48,519
Speaker 4: so he would understand the system and the numbers and

2158
01:35:48,640 --> 01:35:50,920
Speaker 4: you know, the seventies protections and like all that different

2159
01:35:50,920 --> 01:35:53,439
Speaker 4: stuff that they they do. So maybe even more so

2160
01:35:53,680 --> 01:35:56,840
Speaker 4: from like a whiteboard aspect, it would be helpful for

2161
01:35:56,960 --> 01:35:59,400
Speaker 4: these guys as well as like he would teach them

2162
01:35:59,439 --> 01:36:02,760
Speaker 4: the technique that they're probably teaching here, So there would

2163
01:36:02,760 --> 01:36:05,080
Speaker 4: be a lot of familiarity in that respect.

2164
01:36:05,360 --> 01:36:07,400
Speaker 1: Tim and Arlington your next What's up?

2165
01:36:09,400 --> 01:36:13,519
Speaker 10: Take's house? Killing everybody? A couple of quick things, and

2166
01:36:13,880 --> 01:36:18,240
Speaker 10: my question about the undrafted receivers, I'll take off the air,

2167
01:36:18,280 --> 01:36:22,320
Speaker 10: but first, really happy with the draft. So glad we

2168
01:36:22,400 --> 01:36:26,200
Speaker 10: didn't wind up with McMillan love Williams, so I'm really

2169
01:36:26,240 --> 01:36:28,760
Speaker 10: excited about that. As far as the Hall of Fame

2170
01:36:28,880 --> 01:36:32,160
Speaker 10: vote goes, Here's the thing I was. I was torn

2171
01:36:32,200 --> 01:36:36,120
Speaker 10: between Edelman and Vin Terry. I think both deserve to

2172
01:36:36,160 --> 01:36:39,639
Speaker 10: get in. I think when you're when you have someone

2173
01:36:39,840 --> 01:36:42,320
Speaker 10: like really deserving, you do have to kind of pit

2174
01:36:42,520 --> 01:36:44,760
Speaker 10: nicks a little bit. And I think the thing that

2175
01:36:44,960 --> 01:36:48,360
Speaker 10: does get Edelman over is he was a career Patriot.

2176
01:36:48,840 --> 01:36:51,559
Speaker 10: I get that, you know, nobody wanted to sign him

2177
01:36:51,600 --> 01:36:54,160
Speaker 10: quote unquote, but the fact is he stayed there. Whereas

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01:36:54,200 --> 01:36:56,160
Speaker 10: with Adam din and Terry. I think it's similar to

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01:36:56,400 --> 01:36:58,519
Speaker 10: Tom Brady, And this is another way I think people

2180
01:36:58,560 --> 01:37:01,519
Speaker 10: should look at it. One would agree Tom Brady is

2181
01:37:01,520 --> 01:37:04,479
Speaker 10: a Patriot. He played for the Buccaneers, he won them

2182
01:37:04,520 --> 01:37:07,519
Speaker 10: a Super Bowl. But I would say Tom Brady is

2183
01:37:07,600 --> 01:37:10,439
Speaker 10: sixty forty Patriots versus Buck, and I think it's.

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01:37:10,560 --> 01:37:15,280
Speaker 3: Sixty for Tom Brady is like ninety five to five

2185
01:37:15,479 --> 01:37:20,640
Speaker 3: Patriot over Buck sixty forty. I guess I'm wrong. I

2186
01:37:20,880 --> 01:37:22,600
Speaker 3: owe all the fans in apology, I guess I'm like,

2187
01:37:22,720 --> 01:37:23,000
Speaker 3: ha ha.

2188
01:37:23,600 --> 01:37:26,160
Speaker 10: Like wow, well he's won him a super Bowl, Paul,

2189
01:37:26,400 --> 01:37:26,720
Speaker 10: he won.

2190
01:37:26,920 --> 01:37:28,320
Speaker 3: How many do you went for the Patriots?

2191
01:37:28,520 --> 01:37:30,719
Speaker 5: I know, but you can't compare what he did at Tampa.

2192
01:37:30,760 --> 01:37:32,920
Speaker 5: It's not it's come on, sixty forty.

2193
01:37:33,000 --> 01:37:36,919
Speaker 10: No, look, I'm saying he's a Patriot.

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01:37:36,960 --> 01:37:41,720
Speaker 3: Okay, we're quippling over percent, Andary is a Patriot. I

2195
01:37:41,760 --> 01:37:43,920
Speaker 3: don't care that he played longer for the for the Whites,

2196
01:37:44,240 --> 01:37:46,080
Speaker 3: for the Colts. I almost said White Sox because I

2197
01:37:46,080 --> 01:37:48,040
Speaker 3: was thinking of Calton Fish. Let's also played longer for

2198
01:37:48,040 --> 01:37:49,600
Speaker 3: the White so Let's. But he's get serted a red so.

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01:37:49,720 --> 01:37:53,040
Speaker 5: I would say that if if Vinitary had finished his

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01:37:53,160 --> 01:37:55,200
Speaker 5: career with the Patriots and they have never won another

2201
01:37:55,320 --> 01:37:58,240
Speaker 5: Super Bowl, he'd still be a candidate for the Hall

2202
01:37:58,280 --> 01:38:00,759
Speaker 5: of Fame. If he had played it his whole career

2203
01:38:00,840 --> 01:38:03,400
Speaker 5: with the Colts and just won that one Super Bowl,

2204
01:38:04,000 --> 01:38:06,599
Speaker 5: he would not be a Hall of Fame candidate.

2205
01:38:06,760 --> 01:38:08,440
Speaker 1: He's a Hall of Fame Patriot.

2206
01:38:08,360 --> 01:38:10,840
Speaker 3: But everything else is the same. Yeah, he's so he's

2207
01:38:10,880 --> 01:38:12,200
Speaker 3: the leading scorer of all time.

2208
01:38:12,280 --> 01:38:13,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's a pro football.

2209
01:38:13,800 --> 01:38:14,760
Speaker 3: He's a be a Hall of Fame.

2210
01:38:14,840 --> 01:38:17,640
Speaker 5: Kam, he's a pro football candidate because of what he

2211
01:38:17,760 --> 01:38:18,720
Speaker 5: did with the Patriots.

2212
01:38:19,400 --> 01:38:21,200
Speaker 4: I think that puts it over the top, just in

2213
01:38:21,320 --> 01:38:22,400
Speaker 4: terms of the touch kicks, and.

2214
01:38:22,680 --> 01:38:25,960
Speaker 3: I think it's impossible to separate the two. Yeah, I agree,

2215
01:38:26,040 --> 01:38:29,120
Speaker 3: But if he did everything else, he'd be a candidate

2216
01:38:29,160 --> 01:38:31,000
Speaker 3: for the Hall of Fame. If he like played whatever

2217
01:38:31,080 --> 01:38:33,880
Speaker 3: of twenty four years something like that and is the

2218
01:38:33,960 --> 01:38:35,400
Speaker 3: all time leading scorer.

2219
01:38:35,240 --> 01:38:38,280
Speaker 8: And you'd have him in the colts team Hall of Fame.

2220
01:38:38,479 --> 01:38:41,320
Speaker 3: No, you guys wouldn't, because only Patriots have enough players

2221
01:38:41,520 --> 01:38:44,960
Speaker 3: in the Hall of Fame. Evidently, what guy?

2222
01:38:45,280 --> 01:38:48,080
Speaker 10: He got the cult a super Bowl as well, he

2223
01:38:48,240 --> 01:38:50,599
Speaker 10: played longer for them, he helped him win a Super Bowl.

2224
01:38:50,840 --> 01:38:53,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think because he's a great player.

2225
01:38:55,040 --> 01:38:57,960
Speaker 10: He is a great player. But I think you're disrespecting

2226
01:38:58,000 --> 01:38:58,479
Speaker 10: the fact that.

2227
01:38:58,560 --> 01:39:00,680
Speaker 3: He's a cult respecting it.

2228
01:39:01,280 --> 01:39:04,560
Speaker 10: I'm out if I'm a coult fan, I don't like

2229
01:39:04,760 --> 01:39:07,240
Speaker 10: it's just like the outrage you also rightfully.

2230
01:39:07,120 --> 01:39:09,040
Speaker 3: Let me let me ask you this, Tim, Tim, hold

2231
01:39:09,120 --> 01:39:10,200
Speaker 3: on this because this is a good This is a

2232
01:39:10,240 --> 01:39:12,960
Speaker 3: good conversation actually, because I think when you look at

2233
01:39:13,000 --> 01:39:15,960
Speaker 3: things from different sides, unlike a lot of times on

2234
01:39:16,080 --> 01:39:18,720
Speaker 3: this show. Will you guys yell at me for doing that? Okay,

2235
01:39:18,920 --> 01:39:20,760
Speaker 3: all right, let me let me count. Let me count

2236
01:39:20,840 --> 01:39:26,240
Speaker 3: with this. Thanks, let me counter with this. Tim give

2237
01:39:26,280 --> 01:39:29,640
Speaker 3: me this the signature kick of Adam Vani Terry as

2238
01:39:29,640 --> 01:39:30,000
Speaker 3: a cult.

2239
01:39:33,439 --> 01:39:35,760
Speaker 10: Well, in the super Bowl, lady.

2240
01:39:35,880 --> 01:39:36,680
Speaker 1: Didn't he hit one?

2241
01:39:37,520 --> 01:39:38,679
Speaker 10: I'm answering the question.

2242
01:39:39,000 --> 01:39:40,840
Speaker 3: He didn't have a big kick in the super Bowl.

2243
01:39:43,800 --> 01:39:45,919
Speaker 3: They won the super Bowl like twenty nine to seventeen.

2244
01:39:47,840 --> 01:39:52,160
Speaker 3: Oh well, okay, that's fair, but that but that's you

2245
01:39:52,240 --> 01:39:55,240
Speaker 3: know that, And I think that's why And again that

2246
01:39:55,479 --> 01:39:59,040
Speaker 3: I didn't say that, like argumentatively, I'm saying I think

2247
01:39:59,160 --> 01:40:03,040
Speaker 3: that's why we feel his his career is more defined

2248
01:40:03,160 --> 01:40:05,240
Speaker 3: for what he did with the Patriots, even though it

2249
01:40:05,400 --> 01:40:06,360
Speaker 3: wasn't as long as what he.

2250
01:40:06,360 --> 01:40:08,880
Speaker 4: Did with the cults. Also, but like what's why does

2251
01:40:08,960 --> 01:40:11,799
Speaker 4: it matter? No, Like for the purposes of the Patriots

2252
01:40:11,840 --> 01:40:13,519
Speaker 4: Hall of Fame, Well, for people who.

2253
01:40:13,520 --> 01:40:16,240
Speaker 1: Voted for Edelman first, Oh he's really a cult.

2254
01:40:16,479 --> 01:40:20,800
Speaker 4: Oh okay, yeah, But at my own people, I think

2255
01:40:20,920 --> 01:40:26,280
Speaker 4: that's like we're young, like I got I'm okay with it.

2256
01:40:26,960 --> 01:40:29,200
Speaker 3: I just disagree with it, no, because I think one

2257
01:40:29,240 --> 01:40:31,640
Speaker 3: guy really didn't have an opportunity to leave, and the

2258
01:40:31,720 --> 01:40:33,880
Speaker 3: other guy was so good he had people wanting him

2259
01:40:34,200 --> 01:40:35,840
Speaker 3: like that to me, is not a great reason.

2260
01:40:36,000 --> 01:40:36,640
Speaker 8: But this is all.

2261
01:40:36,880 --> 01:40:39,640
Speaker 4: This is my overall point about the whole process. And

2262
01:40:39,680 --> 01:40:41,960
Speaker 4: again I'm taking shots at my own my own age

2263
01:40:42,040 --> 01:40:46,800
Speaker 4: bracket here, so whatever, right, But when you put things

2264
01:40:46,840 --> 01:40:50,439
Speaker 4: on social media to have the vote driven by social media,

2265
01:40:50,960 --> 01:40:55,280
Speaker 4: you are organically catering to a younger age demographic.

2266
01:40:55,400 --> 01:41:01,240
Speaker 3: You're inviting inconsistencies and what my I don't know. It's

2267
01:41:01,280 --> 01:41:02,920
Speaker 3: a problem with the process from the start.

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01:41:03,080 --> 01:41:06,120
Speaker 5: Actually, you vote on a dot com website and they've

2269
01:41:06,120 --> 01:41:07,479
Speaker 5: been around for a long time.

2270
01:41:07,479 --> 01:41:10,120
Speaker 4: Right, But I don't think the dot com website still

2271
01:41:10,240 --> 01:41:16,880
Speaker 4: is catering to people that really truly remember Adam Vinitary's kicks,

2272
01:41:17,360 --> 01:41:18,559
Speaker 4: like I remember them.

2273
01:41:18,479 --> 01:41:22,320
Speaker 3: Facebook because of that's that's my generation, because.

2274
01:41:22,080 --> 01:41:24,600
Speaker 4: I kind of lived it. But I also remember it

2275
01:41:24,680 --> 01:41:27,839
Speaker 4: because I've seen them so many times, you know, replayed

2276
01:41:27,920 --> 01:41:30,439
Speaker 4: over and over again. I don't remember them like you

2277
01:41:30,560 --> 01:41:32,760
Speaker 4: guys remember them were like you know, like I don't

2278
01:41:32,800 --> 01:41:35,200
Speaker 4: remember it like that. So if you're if you were

2279
01:41:35,320 --> 01:41:38,920
Speaker 4: eight in two thousand and one, who are you going

2280
01:41:39,000 --> 01:41:40,400
Speaker 4: to vote for it? You're gonna vote for any.

2281
01:41:40,400 --> 01:41:44,599
Speaker 5: Do you remember Habilt chick steals the ball. No, okay,

2282
01:41:44,720 --> 01:41:48,439
Speaker 5: all right, no, at least you're consistent the sixties.

2283
01:41:48,920 --> 01:41:49,639
Speaker 3: I don't either.

2284
01:41:50,160 --> 01:41:51,960
Speaker 1: You don't care about the history of the team. No,

2285
01:41:52,160 --> 01:41:56,120
Speaker 1: I've seen that, Havelots. I'm part of Celtics Hill.

2286
01:41:56,360 --> 01:41:57,120
Speaker 3: I'm not saying me.

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01:41:57,479 --> 01:42:00,800
Speaker 4: I'm saying that I think, unfortunately that it's just the

2288
01:42:01,280 --> 01:42:03,200
Speaker 4: reality for a lot of younger people.

2289
01:42:03,360 --> 01:42:04,160
Speaker 1: So selfish.

2290
01:42:04,360 --> 01:42:05,480
Speaker 3: But I say.

2291
01:42:07,479 --> 01:42:10,439
Speaker 5: Self absorbed because people do happen when you were you know,

2292
01:42:10,720 --> 01:42:11,679
Speaker 5: saw that didn't happen.

2293
01:42:11,720 --> 01:42:13,400
Speaker 3: I'm gonna let Fred get the raft of the of

2294
01:42:13,479 --> 01:42:13,960
Speaker 3: the youngs.

2295
01:42:14,000 --> 01:42:15,960
Speaker 4: But I was on his side.

2296
01:42:16,080 --> 01:42:18,160
Speaker 3: I said it all the time. When you know people

2297
01:42:18,280 --> 01:42:20,400
Speaker 3: like I was, I wasn't even born. I'm like, I

2298
01:42:20,479 --> 01:42:23,080
Speaker 3: wasn't born like Babe Ruth was hitting more home runs

2299
01:42:23,120 --> 01:42:24,200
Speaker 3: than the rest of the league combined.

2300
01:42:24,240 --> 01:42:24,439
Speaker 1: Either.

2301
01:42:24,479 --> 01:42:25,880
Speaker 4: But I know what happens, you know, But I.

2302
01:42:25,960 --> 01:42:26,519
Speaker 3: Know what happened.

2303
01:42:26,560 --> 01:42:29,000
Speaker 1: Actually, I know about because I was interested.

2304
01:42:29,000 --> 01:42:31,479
Speaker 3: I know Willie Mays was the like the greatest player

2305
01:42:31,520 --> 01:42:33,560
Speaker 3: who ever played, Like I know Ted Williams, you know,

2306
01:42:33,680 --> 01:42:37,200
Speaker 3: hit four hundred. All of this happened like years thirty

2307
01:42:37,320 --> 01:42:41,720
Speaker 3: years before I was born. Yeah, but you know, but

2308
01:42:41,840 --> 01:42:43,680
Speaker 3: you know about it. And also I know we won

2309
01:42:43,760 --> 01:42:46,360
Speaker 3: the Revolutionary Ward too, it wasn't alive, right.

2310
01:42:46,479 --> 01:42:50,360
Speaker 4: You Sure, that's a great point. But like Halichick told,

2311
01:42:50,400 --> 01:42:52,720
Speaker 4: the ball is another great example. I have seen that

2312
01:42:52,880 --> 01:42:55,599
Speaker 4: highlight and I've heard Johnny mose call and halichiks tole

2313
01:42:55,640 --> 01:42:58,280
Speaker 4: the ball a hundred times that I feel like I

2314
01:42:58,400 --> 01:43:00,960
Speaker 4: saw it, even though it was way way before I

2315
01:43:01,160 --> 01:43:05,000
Speaker 4: was born. Unfortunately, not everybody in my age and below

2316
01:43:06,080 --> 01:43:06,880
Speaker 4: you think that way?

2317
01:43:07,040 --> 01:43:10,160
Speaker 1: Does that Patriots fan has seen the Vinitary Kicks? Now?

2318
01:43:10,880 --> 01:43:14,639
Speaker 4: Really, no, I bet you're not. Every one of them has.

2319
01:43:14,680 --> 01:43:18,040
Speaker 5: If they've seen any three games to Glory, they've seen them.

2320
01:43:18,200 --> 01:43:20,320
Speaker 5: If they've seen, you know, any of that stuff.

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01:43:20,400 --> 01:43:23,840
Speaker 3: They don't ask questions you don't want the answers. You

2322
01:43:23,840 --> 01:43:26,360
Speaker 3: don't think every Patriots fan seeing three games to glory?

2323
01:43:26,520 --> 01:43:29,680
Speaker 4: No, Like I've seen all of those, but I was

2324
01:43:29,680 --> 01:43:31,599
Speaker 4: at least of age where I lived it a little

2325
01:43:31,640 --> 01:43:34,360
Speaker 4: bit like people that are ten years younger than me.

2326
01:43:35,600 --> 01:43:40,080
Speaker 3: No chance the Vinitary Kicks. When I say everybody we

2327
01:43:40,479 --> 01:43:42,880
Speaker 3: can we you know, I don't mean like exactly one

2328
01:43:42,920 --> 01:43:45,080
Speaker 3: hundred percent, Like there's not one Patriots fan on the

2329
01:43:45,120 --> 01:43:48,400
Speaker 3: planet who didn't see it. But I think we're talking

2330
01:43:48,520 --> 01:43:51,000
Speaker 3: ninety nine percent in change. I've seen the vinitary k.

2331
01:43:51,160 --> 01:43:55,479
Speaker 3: I would hope, I would absolutely think. I think that

2332
01:43:55,560 --> 01:43:58,840
Speaker 3: the mentality that Tim and I'm again I disagree with

2333
01:43:58,920 --> 01:44:01,080
Speaker 3: it doesn't mean that they you know, people liked him,

2334
01:44:01,120 --> 01:44:03,840
Speaker 3: shouldn't think like that. They think he left and they

2335
01:44:03,920 --> 01:44:07,599
Speaker 3: did that they were wronged he left us. So I'm

2336
01:44:07,600 --> 01:44:11,280
Speaker 3: gonna go with Edelman instead. That's their mentality. Welker dropped

2337
01:44:11,320 --> 01:44:16,080
Speaker 3: the pass. He's a choker. That's the mentality. Mankins, for

2338
01:44:16,200 --> 01:44:18,240
Speaker 3: as great as he was, he never won a super

2339
01:44:18,240 --> 01:44:21,920
Speaker 3: Bowl and then he left. That's the mentality. And that's

2340
01:44:22,000 --> 01:44:24,680
Speaker 3: what's gonna be hard for these guys to get in.

2341
01:44:26,360 --> 01:44:31,479
Speaker 3: I'm telling you, until there's no if you have Gronk

2342
01:44:32,320 --> 01:44:34,360
Speaker 3: and in an option for any of those guys, it's

2343
01:44:34,400 --> 01:44:36,360
Speaker 3: going to be Gronk a thousand times out of a thousand.

2344
01:44:36,479 --> 01:44:39,120
Speaker 3: If you have mccordy, it's gonna be mccaudy. If you

2345
01:44:39,240 --> 01:44:44,240
Speaker 3: have any viable option that is more recent, and the

2346
01:44:44,320 --> 01:44:45,760
Speaker 3: more recent option is going to win.

2347
01:44:45,840 --> 01:44:48,240
Speaker 5: I think we have to make an effort to make

2348
01:44:48,280 --> 01:44:53,280
Speaker 5: the vote more representative of the entire fan base and

2349
01:44:53,400 --> 01:44:53,840
Speaker 5: not just you.

2350
01:44:54,680 --> 01:45:01,000
Speaker 7: But I see why I voted for Vine Teria, you know,

2351
01:45:02,120 --> 01:45:05,479
Speaker 7: but you think about Balm like for me, how different

2352
01:45:05,520 --> 01:45:07,439
Speaker 7: it is. And this is why the two sizes are

2353
01:45:07,520 --> 01:45:10,120
Speaker 7: at odds. I think too, because Edelman is kind of

2354
01:45:10,640 --> 01:45:13,439
Speaker 7: the Patriots are already good, who were already like entitled

2355
01:45:13,520 --> 01:45:16,080
Speaker 7: to win the title, you know, like like Vinetari for us,

2356
01:45:16,400 --> 01:45:19,080
Speaker 7: the Patriots had always stunk like he was the groundbreaker.

2357
01:45:19,160 --> 01:45:20,960
Speaker 8: He was the one who took it from here we go.

2358
01:45:21,080 --> 01:45:22,400
Speaker 8: He's gonna miss this kick in the snow.

2359
01:45:22,479 --> 01:45:24,720
Speaker 1: This is because game.

2360
01:45:25,600 --> 01:45:28,000
Speaker 3: But it's so true. Mike is so right that it.

2361
01:45:28,040 --> 01:45:28,559
Speaker 8: Was all new.

2362
01:45:28,680 --> 01:45:32,000
Speaker 3: It's totally adds to me, to to the aura broke,

2363
01:45:32,600 --> 01:45:35,800
Speaker 3: not the curse, because just everybody, like even Fred even

2364
01:45:35,880 --> 01:45:39,040
Speaker 3: we thought like something bad's gonna happen. We're just we're waiting,

2365
01:45:39,120 --> 01:45:41,200
Speaker 3: like it's gonna be a bad snap or something or

2366
01:45:41,360 --> 01:45:44,760
Speaker 3: something silly's gonna happen because we could never be the

2367
01:45:44,840 --> 01:45:47,080
Speaker 3: ones that want it. Remember, do you remember, like in

2368
01:45:47,200 --> 01:45:50,599
Speaker 3: the call, like everybody remembers Santos with you know, the Fourier.

2369
01:45:51,040 --> 01:45:54,280
Speaker 3: To me, it was like Gino in the background, like

2370
01:45:55,120 --> 01:46:00,600
Speaker 3: mister Patriot like that, like the unbridled enthusiasm and and

2371
01:46:00,800 --> 01:46:04,200
Speaker 3: sort of disbelief, like the best team. I think Gil

2372
01:46:04,280 --> 01:46:06,960
Speaker 3: said something about the best team in football. I forget

2373
01:46:07,000 --> 01:46:10,960
Speaker 3: exactly the words yep, and Gino is just like, hey,

2374
01:46:11,479 --> 01:46:15,120
Speaker 3: like another, how about that? Like we finally won, Like

2375
01:46:15,800 --> 01:46:18,240
Speaker 3: that's what everybody was waiting for, was the rug to

2376
01:46:18,320 --> 01:46:20,240
Speaker 3: get pulled out from under you, and Adam made sure

2377
01:46:20,280 --> 01:46:22,160
Speaker 3: that it didn't, right, And how sure were you at

2378
01:46:22,160 --> 01:46:24,000
Speaker 3: the end of Super Bowl thirty six that here come

2379
01:46:24,080 --> 01:46:27,080
Speaker 3: the Rams there like this you know, you know me right,

2380
01:46:27,600 --> 01:46:28,439
Speaker 3: that was gonna do right?

2381
01:46:28,520 --> 01:46:30,040
Speaker 8: But that anament Arry.

2382
01:46:30,120 --> 01:46:33,080
Speaker 3: Changed the first play when when he almost got stripped,

2383
01:46:33,560 --> 01:46:34,839
Speaker 3: I was like, oh my god.

2384
01:46:34,920 --> 01:46:37,120
Speaker 1: So in O one once.

2385
01:46:37,240 --> 01:46:40,160
Speaker 5: The last time Boston team had won a championship before

2386
01:46:40,320 --> 01:46:42,120
Speaker 5: one was it was eighty.

2387
01:46:41,960 --> 01:46:45,240
Speaker 4: Six Celtics, So it was a while. Yeah, And I

2388
01:46:45,320 --> 01:46:46,040
Speaker 4: would just say, like.

2389
01:46:46,120 --> 01:46:48,000
Speaker 3: And the Celtics were kind of immune to the choking

2390
01:46:48,439 --> 01:46:50,640
Speaker 3: it was for the other three teams, yeah, right, But

2391
01:46:50,880 --> 01:46:51,479
Speaker 3: like it.

2392
01:46:51,560 --> 01:46:55,639
Speaker 4: Always felt for whatever reason that the Red Sox curse

2393
01:46:56,520 --> 01:47:01,080
Speaker 4: was the thing, especially that time of of like the

2394
01:47:01,560 --> 01:47:03,760
Speaker 4: you know Red Sox were probably the number one team

2395
01:47:03,800 --> 01:47:06,240
Speaker 4: in Boston at that time too, but like the eighty

2396
01:47:06,280 --> 01:47:08,240
Speaker 4: six year curse for the Red Sox always felt like

2397
01:47:08,400 --> 01:47:09,920
Speaker 4: maybe a little bit of a bigger deal in the

2398
01:47:09,960 --> 01:47:11,880
Speaker 4: fact that the Patriots had never won a Super Bowl

2399
01:47:12,520 --> 01:47:15,040
Speaker 4: and so like all that was.

2400
01:47:15,560 --> 01:47:16,559
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's accurate.

2401
01:47:16,640 --> 01:47:18,400
Speaker 4: I don't think that there was like as much pain,

2402
01:47:18,520 --> 01:47:19,080
Speaker 4: I guess.

2403
01:47:18,960 --> 01:47:21,960
Speaker 3: Because the always got close and couldn't close the deal.

2404
01:47:22,000 --> 01:47:24,400
Speaker 3: The Patriots, like they got to like the Super Bowl

2405
01:47:24,439 --> 01:47:27,400
Speaker 3: a couple of times, but you know, the first one

2406
01:47:27,560 --> 01:47:30,920
Speaker 3: obviously was an absolute blow. The second one it was

2407
01:47:30,960 --> 01:47:33,960
Speaker 3: a close game, and you know they let the kick

2408
01:47:34,000 --> 01:47:35,840
Speaker 3: return for a touchdown, and then that game is never

2409
01:47:35,920 --> 01:47:38,240
Speaker 3: closed in the fourth quarter. So they it wasn't like

2410
01:47:38,280 --> 01:47:40,640
Speaker 3: they were always getting there and falling short. The Red

2411
01:47:40,720 --> 01:47:45,519
Speaker 3: Sox like seventh game, seventh game, seventh game, collapse down

2412
01:47:45,600 --> 01:47:49,639
Speaker 3: the stretch, losing the division or something just sucky, terrible happened.

2413
01:47:49,720 --> 01:47:50,439
Speaker 1: Mike and Charlotte.

2414
01:47:50,439 --> 01:47:52,760
Speaker 5: If everyone is so convinced that Vinitary should be in

2415
01:47:52,840 --> 01:47:55,479
Speaker 5: the Hall, would you also put Goskalski in. He's ahead

2416
01:47:55,479 --> 01:47:58,640
Speaker 5: of Vinitarian every category and it's the franchise's all time

2417
01:47:58,760 --> 01:47:59,280
Speaker 5: leading score.

2418
01:47:59,479 --> 01:48:02,559
Speaker 3: No, ask you the same question. I'm going to ask

2419
01:48:02,600 --> 01:48:05,800
Speaker 3: you the same question. With Stephen Goskowski's signature moment as

2420
01:48:05,840 --> 01:48:06,640
Speaker 3: a Patriot.

2421
01:48:06,400 --> 01:48:09,920
Speaker 8: Right, the Giants not taking the one case seventeen.

2422
01:48:10,520 --> 01:48:12,479
Speaker 1: Super Bowl, he has seven.

2423
01:48:12,560 --> 01:48:15,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, he does have some has the answer, I would say, the.

2424
01:48:15,920 --> 01:48:17,720
Speaker 3: Coach not having faith in him to try a forty

2425
01:48:17,760 --> 01:48:18,599
Speaker 3: seven yard field going.

2426
01:48:18,640 --> 01:48:19,760
Speaker 7: I mean the clothes, That's what I mean. I was

2427
01:48:19,800 --> 01:48:21,280
Speaker 7: kind of trying to make the same Joe. The closest

2428
01:48:21,280 --> 01:48:23,280
Speaker 7: I can get, I think was in that twenty sixteen

2429
01:48:23,360 --> 01:48:24,679
Speaker 7: or seventeen game against the Giants.

2430
01:48:25,080 --> 01:48:27,280
Speaker 3: You're talking he had fifty.

2431
01:48:28,360 --> 01:48:30,920
Speaker 5: And listen, Goskalki's fine, but he shouldn't be in the

2432
01:48:30,960 --> 01:48:36,120
Speaker 5: Patriots Hall of Fame, and his accomplishments don't come close

2433
01:48:36,200 --> 01:48:38,160
Speaker 5: to what Vinitari did for this team.

2434
01:48:38,840 --> 01:48:41,000
Speaker 4: For this team, I don't think anybody argues that, like

2435
01:48:41,360 --> 01:48:42,920
Speaker 4: Goskoski was a fine kicker, he was.

2436
01:48:43,479 --> 01:48:44,880
Speaker 3: Really was really, really good.

2437
01:48:45,439 --> 01:48:47,160
Speaker 1: It was great to listen.

2438
01:48:47,920 --> 01:48:50,599
Speaker 3: I know, I am sure he does, but come on, sure,

2439
01:48:50,600 --> 01:48:52,120
Speaker 3: I'm gonna an email when I get back to my dead.

2440
01:48:52,200 --> 01:48:56,040
Speaker 4: Well the kick. What I always remember is the last

2441
01:48:56,080 --> 01:48:59,280
Speaker 4: Super Bowl against the Rams, the second one, and you know,

2442
01:48:59,520 --> 01:49:02,800
Speaker 4: Brady was like just kicking right, and Bill. Bill is

2443
01:49:02,880 --> 01:49:05,280
Speaker 4: like contemplating, I think, going for it right, to try

2444
01:49:05,360 --> 01:49:07,479
Speaker 4: to like kneel out the clock right, you know, pick

2445
01:49:07,520 --> 01:49:08,840
Speaker 4: up the first down and kneel it out and Brady

2446
01:49:08,960 --> 01:49:10,599
Speaker 4: was like, we kick it. It's a two swear game.

2447
01:49:12,120 --> 01:49:12,320
Speaker 11: Yeah.

2448
01:49:12,400 --> 01:49:13,680
Speaker 3: He sounded like, Paul, what are we doing?

2449
01:49:13,800 --> 01:49:15,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, we're up.

2450
01:49:16,040 --> 01:49:18,360
Speaker 1: Boston Cream's on the line. What's up, Boston Cream?

2451
01:49:19,360 --> 01:49:22,519
Speaker 14: Hey, guys, really excited to wear my Patriots jersey with

2452
01:49:22,640 --> 01:49:26,000
Speaker 14: my backwards Patman and the heart by Splint Schworts today

2453
01:49:26,040 --> 01:49:26,479
Speaker 14: in public?

2454
01:49:27,320 --> 01:49:27,559
Speaker 11: Nice?

2455
01:49:27,960 --> 01:49:30,840
Speaker 14: Maybe even my Edelman jersey. I just wanted to comment,

2456
01:49:31,400 --> 01:49:34,680
Speaker 14: really happy that Edelman got in. Clearly he's better than

2457
01:49:34,720 --> 01:49:37,960
Speaker 14: Welker because he caught one ball. Everyone totally forgets that

2458
01:49:38,040 --> 01:49:40,320
Speaker 14: he had multiple drops on third down in that Super Bowl.

2459
01:49:40,479 --> 01:49:43,599
Speaker 14: That doesn't matter because Patriot's one and the defense saved

2460
01:49:43,600 --> 01:49:49,920
Speaker 14: his legacy. My question is I can go on a rams,

2461
01:49:49,960 --> 01:49:51,519
Speaker 14: I can go on as serious right. I don't know

2462
01:49:51,640 --> 01:49:54,680
Speaker 14: how people think that Edelman is so much better of

2463
01:49:54,760 --> 01:49:55,719
Speaker 14: a player over Welker.

2464
01:49:57,160 --> 01:49:59,320
Speaker 3: They're both great, but they're both great. I have no

2465
01:49:59,400 --> 01:50:02,479
Speaker 3: problem like those two guys to me, As I said earlier,

2466
01:50:02,920 --> 01:50:05,000
Speaker 3: I wouldn't even have to think about them being in

2467
01:50:05,040 --> 01:50:07,200
Speaker 3: the Hall of Fame, the Patriots Hall of Fame. I

2468
01:50:07,280 --> 01:50:08,439
Speaker 3: did lock.

2469
01:50:09,680 --> 01:50:13,400
Speaker 14: I think it's the Super Bowl career was Welker's career

2470
01:50:13,520 --> 01:50:17,600
Speaker 14: was kind of at the infansity of social media, and

2471
01:50:17,680 --> 01:50:19,439
Speaker 14: a lot of the people that are on social media

2472
01:50:19,520 --> 01:50:21,920
Speaker 14: right now probably weren't alive or were too young to

2473
01:50:22,000 --> 01:50:25,719
Speaker 14: kind of even remember Welker. But everyone talks about one moment,

2474
01:50:25,880 --> 01:50:28,479
Speaker 14: so they have that kind of well I've heard about it.

2475
01:50:28,560 --> 01:50:29,040
Speaker 11: So I know it.

2476
01:50:31,120 --> 01:50:34,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I also would say Edelman's personality helps

2477
01:50:34,360 --> 01:50:36,520
Speaker 3: him a lot too. He's got a great personality.

2478
01:50:36,640 --> 01:50:37,240
Speaker 1: Well, look at.

2479
01:50:37,320 --> 01:50:43,160
Speaker 5: Remember Kevin Falk when he wore the Brady jersey. A

2480
01:50:43,240 --> 01:50:45,000
Speaker 5: lot of people thought that that put him over the

2481
01:50:45,080 --> 01:50:46,519
Speaker 5: top in his voting.

2482
01:50:46,640 --> 01:50:50,120
Speaker 3: M I mean one at the draft.

2483
01:50:50,160 --> 01:50:52,240
Speaker 8: I remember that, Yeah, so much disrespect.

2484
01:50:53,560 --> 01:50:55,920
Speaker 3: Kevin Falk is probably one of my ten best guys

2485
01:50:55,920 --> 01:50:58,640
Speaker 3: that I ever covered. Like, I love Kevin Falk, but

2486
01:50:59,200 --> 01:51:00,759
Speaker 3: come on, yeah, Richard Seymour.

2487
01:51:02,520 --> 01:51:05,720
Speaker 14: My question is am I being a little pessimistic by

2488
01:51:05,800 --> 01:51:07,920
Speaker 14: thinking the Patriots going to have to earn my trust?

2489
01:51:07,960 --> 01:51:09,600
Speaker 14: But a lot of people are kind of thinking we

2490
01:51:09,680 --> 01:51:12,960
Speaker 14: can compete for a playoff spot. And maybe it's me

2491
01:51:13,200 --> 01:51:14,880
Speaker 14: just trauma bonding with other people, but.

2492
01:51:15,760 --> 01:51:18,120
Speaker 3: I rama bonding.

2493
01:51:18,360 --> 01:51:21,479
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, we've we've been through it the last

2494
01:51:21,560 --> 01:51:23,840
Speaker 5: few years, so I don't blame it you know, yeah.

2495
01:51:23,760 --> 01:51:26,320
Speaker 3: I think he's you got to show it. I think

2496
01:51:26,360 --> 01:51:28,560
Speaker 3: they'll be better. I think the schedule is weak. I

2497
01:51:28,640 --> 01:51:32,160
Speaker 3: think they've improved the roster. But we got to see,

2498
01:51:32,200 --> 01:51:33,320
Speaker 3: you how does it all come together?

2499
01:51:33,479 --> 01:51:36,640
Speaker 4: I mean, until you know, Drake May strings together. I

2500
01:51:36,680 --> 01:51:38,920
Speaker 4: mean he won one game as a rookie, and I

2501
01:51:39,000 --> 01:51:41,280
Speaker 4: know it was a disaster year all around, not putting

2502
01:51:41,320 --> 01:51:45,000
Speaker 4: that on him, but until they actually string together, you know,

2503
01:51:45,120 --> 01:51:48,960
Speaker 4: some wins and and really show us the concept, right,

2504
01:51:49,120 --> 01:51:49,680
Speaker 4: you know, and we.

2505
01:51:49,760 --> 01:51:51,800
Speaker 3: Have all those games that we're sort of looking at,

2506
01:51:51,880 --> 01:51:55,080
Speaker 3: like the schedule, and you know, we don't know for

2507
01:51:55,240 --> 01:51:59,160
Speaker 3: sure that you know, whatever the group is Cleveland, I

2508
01:51:59,240 --> 01:52:06,920
Speaker 3: think Indy, maybe Jacksonville, No Indy, who else? There's like

2509
01:52:06,960 --> 01:52:11,400
Speaker 3: two or three Carolina, right, everybody has like you know,

2510
01:52:11,840 --> 01:52:14,720
Speaker 3: just check them off. Well, what if one or two

2511
01:52:14,760 --> 01:52:17,080
Speaker 3: of those teams turns out to be one of you know,

2512
01:52:17,200 --> 01:52:20,000
Speaker 3: like Washington, like that you went in to be a

2513
01:52:20,040 --> 01:52:21,960
Speaker 3: team that you went into the season thinking is going

2514
01:52:22,000 --> 01:52:24,080
Speaker 3: to stink and that's a that's a cupcake win for you,

2515
01:52:24,160 --> 01:52:26,080
Speaker 3: and all of a sudden when you play them, they're

2516
01:52:26,160 --> 01:52:30,760
Speaker 3: five and one Like that can happen too. So I

2517
01:52:30,880 --> 01:52:31,800
Speaker 3: agree with Boston team.

2518
01:52:31,840 --> 01:52:34,200
Speaker 4: You got to see it all the all the analytics

2519
01:52:34,280 --> 01:52:36,960
Speaker 4: models think the Patriots have one of the easiest schedules

2520
01:52:37,040 --> 01:52:39,519
Speaker 4: in the league on paper, paper, and this is now

2521
01:52:39,600 --> 01:52:42,080
Speaker 4: they baked into the draft and you know, everything's kind

2522
01:52:42,120 --> 01:52:45,080
Speaker 4: of done right U And I think that I saw

2523
01:52:45,600 --> 01:52:47,320
Speaker 4: the other day it was like they have like the

2524
01:52:47,400 --> 01:52:51,000
Speaker 4: second or third easiest projected schedule in the NFL next year.

2525
01:52:51,120 --> 01:52:54,519
Speaker 4: But I've heard a lot of different places, you know,

2526
01:52:54,760 --> 01:52:56,840
Speaker 4: I think Kay Adams was kind of talking it up

2527
01:52:57,000 --> 01:52:59,760
Speaker 4: Mena Chimes, like Adams has a playoff team, Like let's

2528
01:53:00,479 --> 01:53:02,880
Speaker 4: I'm not trying to rain on anybody's parade, but like,

2529
01:53:03,000 --> 01:53:05,400
Speaker 4: let's let's even can we get into camp first and

2530
01:53:05,560 --> 01:53:07,479
Speaker 4: like see what this all looks like before we start

2531
01:53:07,520 --> 01:53:10,599
Speaker 4: talking about the playoffs. It's a little well, it took.

2532
01:53:10,439 --> 01:53:13,560
Speaker 7: A while from my confidence to completely disappear over like

2533
01:53:13,640 --> 01:53:16,400
Speaker 7: the course of twenty and twenty one, you know, and

2534
01:53:16,479 --> 01:53:19,439
Speaker 7: there were fits and starts. Sometimes they had good games

2535
01:53:19,479 --> 01:53:22,280
Speaker 7: that made you think, all right, they're back, baby, But

2536
01:53:22,800 --> 01:53:24,320
Speaker 7: it was weird getting that out of your head of

2537
01:53:24,520 --> 01:53:27,240
Speaker 7: like they have Bill Belichick, Like what like how I

2538
01:53:27,320 --> 01:53:29,960
Speaker 7: mean twenty twenty three was like what is going on?

2539
01:53:30,160 --> 01:53:33,439
Speaker 7: Like this team is completely the antithesis of everything he's

2540
01:53:33,479 --> 01:53:36,080
Speaker 7: tried to tell us. You didn't just get there in

2541
01:53:36,160 --> 01:53:37,679
Speaker 7: a day and be like this suck. They're not gonna

2542
01:53:37,680 --> 01:53:39,439
Speaker 7: win again. It's just like, I'm going to enjoy the

2543
01:53:39,520 --> 01:53:41,320
Speaker 7: process of what kind of team is this?

2544
01:53:41,400 --> 01:53:42,000
Speaker 1: How do they win?

2545
01:53:42,479 --> 01:53:44,400
Speaker 8: You know, instead of like just penciling in ten.

2546
01:53:44,320 --> 01:53:45,759
Speaker 1: Wins, You're going to enjoy the process.

2547
01:53:45,760 --> 01:53:47,880
Speaker 8: I'm gonna try to be his new tax.

2548
01:53:48,080 --> 01:53:50,200
Speaker 3: He enjoys everything. He's going to enjoy the process.

2549
01:53:52,000 --> 01:53:52,160
Speaker 1: Yeah.

2550
01:53:52,720 --> 01:53:54,080
Speaker 5: So in the middle of the season when they have

2551
01:53:54,120 --> 01:53:56,280
Speaker 5: a three game winning streak, when Mike, ah, you enjoyed

2552
01:53:56,280 --> 01:53:56,719
Speaker 5: the process.

2553
01:53:57,000 --> 01:53:58,599
Speaker 4: Wins's process over results.

2554
01:53:58,680 --> 01:54:00,400
Speaker 8: Now it's going to be the angry call when they

2555
01:54:00,479 --> 01:54:02,360
Speaker 8: have like a disappointing like they're three and six.

2556
01:54:02,200 --> 01:54:05,000
Speaker 3: And how's the process now, dude, I hear you.

2557
01:54:05,240 --> 01:54:05,640
Speaker 4: Here we go.

2558
01:54:06,080 --> 01:54:07,839
Speaker 3: I'll be feeding some people of those lines.

2559
01:54:08,120 --> 01:54:11,080
Speaker 5: Curtis and Saint Louis. So I voted for Vinitari just

2560
01:54:11,160 --> 01:54:13,360
Speaker 5: to be clear, Fred. That being said, look at it

2561
01:54:13,479 --> 01:54:16,360
Speaker 5: this way, Fred, this is what you get when you

2562
01:54:16,479 --> 01:54:19,280
Speaker 5: leave it to the masses. They go with the sexy pick.

2563
01:54:19,640 --> 01:54:21,720
Speaker 5: People are not excited about a kicker. They want that

2564
01:54:21,840 --> 01:54:25,280
Speaker 5: sexy wide receiver. No one claimed Clamor is over a

2565
01:54:25,400 --> 01:54:28,559
Speaker 5: kicker in free agency or the draft. No, they want

2566
01:54:28,600 --> 01:54:30,839
Speaker 5: the running back or the wide receiver. They want weapons.

2567
01:54:31,160 --> 01:54:33,120
Speaker 5: I understand he's a Hall of Famer, no doubt, but

2568
01:54:33,280 --> 01:54:36,320
Speaker 5: it's not the sexy pick my opinion. I didn't like

2569
01:54:36,400 --> 01:54:39,320
Speaker 5: that Parcel's got it. I feel that Adam and Edelman

2570
01:54:39,360 --> 01:54:42,040
Speaker 5: should have gone. Well, we can't do both of them.

2571
01:54:42,120 --> 01:54:43,320
Speaker 5: But anyway, I have a.

2572
01:54:43,360 --> 01:54:45,600
Speaker 7: Question on the course of your career here doing what

2573
01:54:45,720 --> 01:54:48,160
Speaker 7: you guys do, talking about football a lot, did you

2574
01:54:48,320 --> 01:54:52,840
Speaker 7: notice the influence of fantasy football and suddenly people became

2575
01:54:52,920 --> 01:54:57,080
Speaker 7: more infatuated with receivers and receptions and.

2576
01:54:57,920 --> 01:55:00,080
Speaker 3: The influence of it on the fans I.

2577
01:55:00,120 --> 01:55:03,720
Speaker 1: Do, And just in terms of name recognition, I think

2578
01:55:03,760 --> 01:55:06,240
Speaker 1: it helped a lot of the you know, the receivers.

2579
01:55:06,360 --> 01:55:08,560
Speaker 3: Like you said, I would say people think a lot

2580
01:55:08,680 --> 01:55:12,800
Speaker 3: more of individual skill position guys in general than I do.

2581
01:55:13,320 --> 01:55:16,120
Speaker 3: And that's why I mean in terms of like winning

2582
01:55:16,160 --> 01:55:18,640
Speaker 3: and losing games as opposed to compiling stats.

2583
01:55:18,720 --> 01:55:20,720
Speaker 8: It's because it changes so quick.

2584
01:55:20,760 --> 01:55:23,080
Speaker 7: I remember, every year there's guys who are right, this

2585
01:55:23,200 --> 01:55:25,680
Speaker 7: is what the top five of the fantasy draft is

2586
01:55:25,720 --> 01:55:28,040
Speaker 7: going to look like, and it changes so much so quickly,

2587
01:55:28,600 --> 01:55:30,560
Speaker 7: and there are still guys that and maybe this is

2588
01:55:30,560 --> 01:55:32,520
Speaker 7: a bad example, but like just Torell Owens, like it

2589
01:55:32,640 --> 01:55:35,240
Speaker 7: was always we're going to twenty thirteen, twenty four, they

2590
01:55:35,280 --> 01:55:35,960
Speaker 7: need Terrell Owens.

2591
01:55:36,560 --> 01:55:38,120
Speaker 8: Torello has been out of the league for like three years.

2592
01:55:38,120 --> 01:55:41,240
Speaker 7: You guys, what do we But because Fantasy football, like

2593
01:55:41,320 --> 01:55:44,160
Speaker 7: you just you don't realize that guy he washed out

2594
01:55:44,280 --> 01:55:44,960
Speaker 7: like two years ago.

2595
01:55:45,040 --> 01:55:46,920
Speaker 8: But because of Fantasy it just seems like they hold

2596
01:55:46,960 --> 01:55:47,920
Speaker 8: onto those names longer.

2597
01:55:49,200 --> 01:55:52,600
Speaker 1: All right, well, listen, there's Frank Edelman. Frank Adelman.

2598
01:55:52,680 --> 01:55:55,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, they juliefl Network released the video of his father

2599
01:55:56,200 --> 01:55:58,360
Speaker 3: the Sucks and Slippers.

2600
01:55:59,000 --> 01:56:02,280
Speaker 8: He state Frank right where he loves the fanny pack fits.

2601
01:56:02,280 --> 01:56:04,120
Speaker 7: He's got a good story talking Frank about the fanny

2602
01:56:04,120 --> 01:56:05,880
Speaker 7: pack because everyone in the family makes fun of Frank.

2603
01:56:05,920 --> 01:56:07,840
Speaker 8: I guess we're wearing a fanny.

2604
01:56:07,600 --> 01:56:09,480
Speaker 4: Pack and he just doesn't care because he loves andy

2605
01:56:09,520 --> 01:56:11,080
Speaker 4: packs are in. Because they're back.

2606
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Speaker 3: I got everything I need right here, So I'm skipped

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01:56:13,800 --> 01:56:15,600
Speaker 3: at the first time around. I'll be skipping it again.

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01:56:15,680 --> 01:56:19,959
Speaker 4: No, they're back and back especially for for for the females,

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01:56:20,600 --> 01:56:23,200
Speaker 4: but not not the bandalier style anymore either way.

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01:56:23,280 --> 01:56:25,960
Speaker 8: Right around the fanning bandeliers, a lot of.

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01:56:25,960 --> 01:56:32,680
Speaker 1: The guys are wearing that it's Europeans a Seinfeld.

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01:56:33,160 --> 01:56:36,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, Well that's going to be it for

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01:56:36,520 --> 01:56:38,600
Speaker 3: this edition of Patriots should change and what do you

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01:56:38,640 --> 01:56:39,040
Speaker 3: got a meeting?

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01:56:39,200 --> 01:56:39,360
Speaker 1: Yeah?

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01:56:39,480 --> 01:56:42,720
Speaker 5: Thanks everyone, thanks for listening, Thanks for watching Catch twenty

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01:56:42,760 --> 01:56:43,880
Speaker 5: two tomorrow at noon.

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01:56:44,120 --> 01:56:45,320
Speaker 1: Cort, how's Barth doing.

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01:56:45,720 --> 01:56:48,200
Speaker 4: He's doing well. We've been arguing for the past twelve

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01:56:48,200 --> 01:56:49,160
Speaker 4: hours about the Celtics.

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01:56:49,560 --> 01:56:51,960
Speaker 1: The Celtics. Okay, is that going to carry over to Catch?

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01:56:52,640 --> 01:56:56,200
Speaker 3: So angry You've been a little angry about the Celtics. Well,

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01:56:57,120 --> 01:56:59,360
Speaker 3: you seemingly have this thought that people think that they're

2624
01:56:59,400 --> 01:57:02,080
Speaker 3: now in trouble. No, I haven't sensed any of this.

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01:57:02,400 --> 01:57:04,200
Speaker 1: No, and I know I know. I think they have

2626
01:57:04,320 --> 01:57:06,360
Speaker 1: a sneaky feeling they are, but they won't admit it.

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01:57:06,520 --> 01:57:10,000
Speaker 3: No extra bravado to cover up for the insecurity.

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01:57:10,160 --> 01:57:10,800
Speaker 1: That's fine.

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01:57:11,600 --> 01:57:13,760
Speaker 4: It just annoys me that every single time they lose

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01:57:14,000 --> 01:57:17,240
Speaker 4: a game like that, it becomes a referendum on the

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01:57:17,560 --> 01:57:20,280
Speaker 4: entire thing. Well, right, like like that.

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01:57:20,480 --> 01:57:22,120
Speaker 3: It has never happened in the history of the NBA.

2633
01:57:22,280 --> 01:57:24,000
Speaker 3: No one's ever missed forty five threes.

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01:57:23,800 --> 01:57:26,520
Speaker 4: In again, right but forty but it just becomes the

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01:57:26,600 --> 01:57:29,080
Speaker 4: whole thing about the play style and the coach and

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01:57:29,160 --> 01:57:30,600
Speaker 4: this and that and the other thing, and it's like,

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01:57:31,040 --> 01:57:33,440
Speaker 4: all right, well, I guess like the whole thing sucks.

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01:57:33,480 --> 01:57:36,080
Speaker 3: But that's the world. Is that that happens in the

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01:57:36,120 --> 01:57:39,320
Speaker 3: same series enough to get in trouble and he will

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01:57:39,360 --> 01:57:41,200
Speaker 3: not change. That's the concern.

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01:57:41,440 --> 01:57:44,000
Speaker 4: When we're on the parade route, I'll let you know, see.

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01:57:43,880 --> 01:57:48,000
Speaker 3: Okay, a little to cover the security. I'm here for it.

2643
01:57:48,080 --> 01:57:48,360
Speaker 3: I like it.

2644
01:57:48,440 --> 01:57:50,080
Speaker 1: That's what being a fans all about, all right.

2645
01:57:50,040 --> 01:57:51,760
Speaker 3: And if I disagree with them, we'd have another hour

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01:57:51,840 --> 01:57:52,640
Speaker 3: to argue, but I don't.

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01:57:52,760 --> 01:57:58,640
Speaker 1: We'll see a Thursday. Hey, this is bread. Thanks for

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01:57:58,720 --> 01:57:59,680
Speaker 1: tuning into the show.

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01:57:59,840 --> 01:58:02,320
Speaker 5: If if you really want to help us, make sure

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01:58:02,360 --> 01:58:05,040
Speaker 5: that you like us wherever you get your podcasts like

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Speaker 5: Apple Podcasts or Spotify, and also make sure you follow

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01:58:09,440 --> 01:58:11,160
Speaker 5: us on the New England Patriots.

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01:58:10,840 --> 01:58:14,000
Speaker 1: YouTube page to see this show in everything else that

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01:58:14,120 --> 01:58:16,520
Speaker 1: we do here at the Patriots. Thanks a lot.

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01:58:25,200 --> 01:58:28,680
Speaker 9: Patriots Catch twenty two. We'll join Evan Lazar and Alex

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01:58:28,760 --> 01:58:31,280
Speaker 9: Bart every Thursday as they take a deep dive into

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01:58:31,320 --> 01:58:34,440
Speaker 9: the x's and O's trends and latest New England Patriots

2658
01:58:34,520 --> 01:58:35,160
Speaker 9: roster moves.

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01:58:35,240 --> 01:58:38,600
Speaker 3: And I'm usually into the numbers. Okay, we do this.

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01:58:38,880 --> 01:58:41,400
Speaker 3: I mean to the tangible numbers. There's there's tame here.

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01:58:41,680 --> 01:58:42,000
Speaker 4: Just give me.

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01:58:42,280 --> 01:58:43,000
Speaker 3: There's the advantage.

2663
01:58:43,000 --> 01:58:47,560
Speaker 4: I'm surprised an old fan over here. I thought maybe

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01:58:47,560 --> 01:58:49,640
Speaker 4: I'd have to show you, like a tutorial or something.

2665
01:58:49,800 --> 01:58:50,600
Speaker 3: How am I old man?

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01:58:50,800 --> 01:58:53,360
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