Speaker 1: First of all, you don't know me.
Speaker 2: We all about that high school drama girl, drauma girl,
Speaker 2: all about.
Speaker 1: Them high school queens.
Speaker 3: We'll take you for a ride, and our comic.
Speaker 1: Girl sharing for the right trauma, Queens of girl fashion.
Speaker 3: But your tough girl, you could sit with us.
Speaker 2: Girl drama, queens drama, Queens drama, queens drama, drama, queens drama, queens.
Speaker 1: Kind of gorgeous faces, gorgeous friends and people we love.
Speaker 1: I shouldn't start, go someone else do it?
Speaker 4: No, No, that stays in the episode.
Speaker 3: Keep going.
Speaker 1: Why does my brain work faster than my mouth? I'm
Speaker 1: always like stumbling over my words because my brain is
Speaker 1: like further down into the sentence then my mouth can
Speaker 1: catch up to And then I start saying syllables that
Speaker 1: don't make sense, and then I get self conscious about it.
Speaker 1: Does that happen to anybody else?
Speaker 5: Well, it's like when a little kid is like running
Speaker 5: slightly downhill too fast, and you see their legs start
Speaker 5: to spin out of control and you're like, oh boy,
Speaker 5: oh boy, out about to go to the er.
Speaker 4: It's part of your charm. Joy, It's part of your
Speaker 4: magic that occasionally, you know, the words get jumbled up.
Speaker 1: It's just the occasional fumble, you know, are for the course. Well,
Speaker 1: you know what didn't fumble? Was this episode?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 1: Oh no, you guys.
Speaker 4: Like safety Space says, maybe it did.
Speaker 1: No, I really liked this episode.
Speaker 4: Okay, first, let's just tell the people we watched. Season eight,
Speaker 4: Episode ten lists plans airdate of November twentieth, twenty ten.
Speaker 4: Synopsis reads in order to get an agent's license, Nathan
Speaker 4: returns to college boy does he ever? Haley sets up
Speaker 4: a concert at Trick featuring Kid Cuddy appearing as himself.
Speaker 4: Julian helps Brook complete her bucket list she had made
Speaker 4: before losing her company. Alex and Mia start a friendly
Speaker 4: competition as they take over the bar at Trick. Meanwhile,
Speaker 4: Quinn sneaks out of town to visit a fun familiar
Speaker 4: face that was directed and written. No, it was. It
Speaker 4: was written by Johnny Richardson and it was directed. Okay,
Speaker 4: so you boked when Joy said this episode was great,
Speaker 4: So lay on us.
Speaker 5: I did, because I felt like this episode kept giving
Speaker 5: me whiplash. There were things about it that were so great.
Speaker 5: I loved the teaser and the wedding nightmare I loved.
Speaker 5: I thought, I actually thought all of Brooke and Julian's
Speaker 5: stuff was so freaking sweet.
Speaker 1: Yes, Gangbusters just so good.
Speaker 5: And I loved all of your stuff, joy in the
Speaker 5: way that everybody's sort of taking charge at Trick a
Speaker 5: bit and at the record label, and Alex and me
Speaker 5: are becoming friends, and that I felt like I was
Speaker 5: in a completely different universe every time we cut to
Speaker 5: the Quinn and Dan's stuff. Yeah, and I was like, Yeah,
Speaker 5: what is happening? And also kudos to Paul and Chantelle
Speaker 5: for being such good sports with the most absurd dialogue
Speaker 5: I've ever heard two.
Speaker 3: People have to give each other.
Speaker 5: And I was like, how in one episode can our
Speaker 5: show be nailing it and then also be embarrassing?
Speaker 3: And I couldn't. I couldn't make sense of it.
Speaker 4: Yes, I agree, we watched two talented actors do their
Speaker 4: very best do the Lord's work with some highly questionable
Speaker 4: dialogue and material. In general, First of all, it just
Speaker 4: didn't make any sense. Okay, it didn't make sense for
Speaker 4: a lot of reasons. One is Dan the only person
Speaker 4: who works at this diner that has never had a
Speaker 4: customer ever.
Speaker 3: Right, no other customers, no other people.
Speaker 1: As the lighting is like it's nighttime always in this dinastic.
Speaker 4: The reason that you have no customers is because it's lit,
Speaker 4: like people go there to kill other people.
Speaker 5: Yes, hard spotlights on them. I don't know why they're
Speaker 5: constantly moving around the diner. I got to a scene finally, However,
Speaker 5: many scenes in, I was like.
Speaker 3: Is it night three?
Speaker 5: Have they spent three days in the diner together? Like
Speaker 5: it's been daytime, it's been nighttime, it's been daytime, now
Speaker 5: it's nighttime.
Speaker 3: It was so it pulled me.
Speaker 5: Out of the episode so much, and I'm so glad
Speaker 5: we're seeing Dan and I get the device, and I
Speaker 5: totally get the You're the only person I know that's
Speaker 5: ever murdered anyone. But we're gonna believe that this woman
Speaker 5: who's been shot and traumatized feels safe alone in the
Speaker 5: dark with a murderer. Like none of it makes any
Speaker 5: sense to me. And they did great with what they had. Yeah,
Speaker 5: and I didn't get it also, Dan go.
Speaker 4: At one point, Dan says, you know, is this is
Speaker 4: this the life you want? Having to live away from
Speaker 4: everyone being isolated. It's like, sir, you had a nationally
Speaker 4: broadcast a TV show, Yeah that was wildly successful that
Speaker 4: you chose to walk away from like, you are not
Speaker 4: an outcast, you just chose to be a hermit for
Speaker 4: some reason. Also, the last time we saw him, he
Speaker 4: was on some altruistic, you know, philanthropic stuff. He was like,
Speaker 4: I'm giving it all away and I'm gonna help the world.
Speaker 4: It's like, what happened on your journey that you decided.
Speaker 4: I think I'd rather be bitter at a greasy spoon
Speaker 4: diner that no one ever goes to.
Speaker 1: Okay, hold on, agreed. I can see all of that.
Speaker 1: I feel all of that. Okay. As far as Quinn
Speaker 1: feeling safe for the murder, I totally get that. However,
Speaker 1: I think for me, I was like, Okay, she's trying
Speaker 1: to prove to herself that she's tough and strong and
Speaker 1: she can handle anything, which I can relate too. I
Speaker 1: think a lot of women can relate to that. After
Speaker 1: you've been through something traumatic, you want to put yourself
Speaker 1: in another situation that feels difficult to prove in some
Speaker 1: way to yourself that you can handle it. If you
Speaker 1: felt like you were taken advantage of before, so that
Speaker 1: the lighting in the diner was ridiculous, of course, and
Speaker 1: it always felt like we were watching a different scene,
Speaker 1: but for me, Quinn's dialogue felt honest. To her, Dan's
Speaker 1: dialogue felt completely correct in the sense that he's trying
Speaker 1: to convince her not to go kill someone. That's all
Speaker 1: he's doing from the second she walks in and tells
Speaker 1: him she wants to murder someone. All of the things
Speaker 1: that he's doing is he's just trying to make it worse,
Speaker 1: sound worse and worse and worse. Sure, you're not going
Speaker 1: to end up killing anybody. So I don't know that
Speaker 1: he's like bitter and angry and working at the diner.
Speaker 1: I think he's playing the part of the guy that
Speaker 1: she wants him to play. When so it was much
Speaker 1: more interesting to me than that because I was watching
Speaker 1: Dan do his manipulative Dan thing but having fun with it.
Speaker 3: I wish they'd showed us that, but didn't. He didn't
Speaker 3: Paul show it to.
Speaker 1: You, like as an actor.
Speaker 5: Sure, Well, here's what I'm gonna say, Paul, I absolutely
Speaker 5: understood that he was trying to push her till she
Speaker 5: broke and decided she didn't want to do what he
Speaker 5: had done. Yeah, but the way they directed it and
Speaker 5: the way they wrote it and the way they did
Speaker 5: his hair and the way everything about it didn't feel sure.
Speaker 5: He looked he looked like a hot convict. But like again,
Speaker 5: he was the star of a television. He was Doctor
Speaker 5: Phil and now he's this guy, Like what it They
Speaker 5: They put it in a scenario where it felt so
Speaker 5: ridiculous that I didn't get to see Dan look around
Speaker 5: at his life and then make some choices. It felt
Speaker 5: like a hat on a hat, and I think they
Speaker 5: had to act their way out of it, but I
Speaker 5: don't think the choices made around it made any sense.
Speaker 5: And I think you, as we do. You love Paul
Speaker 5: and you love Dan Scott, and so it's like, well,
Speaker 5: I see what they were, but I just I don't know.
Speaker 5: I thought the episode was very well directed except for
Speaker 5: this stuff, and so I didn't understand it.
Speaker 4: I also feel like, yeah, well it's he. He kind
Speaker 4: of Dan was getting the guest star treatment where they
Speaker 4: can just go away and we don't have to explain
Speaker 4: anything about what they've been up to. We just bring
Speaker 4: him back doing something else. And he's too big of
Speaker 4: a character for that. So that I agree with, right,
Speaker 4: But I gotta say, as we're talking about this, I'm
Speaker 4: realizing because I'm with you, joy I, I don't. I
Speaker 4: didn't really bump on the dialogue because I knew what
Speaker 4: Dan was up to. I didn't bump on Quinn being
Speaker 4: there because this is these are like extraordinary circumstances. Yeah,
Speaker 4: so she she is not acting in her she's not
Speaker 4: in her comfort zone, she's not in her right mind.
Speaker 4: I honestly think it's it was an issue of aesthetic.
Speaker 4: It was that this it was an empty diner, and
Speaker 4: then it was like one swinging bulb.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like a Dick Tracy movie.
Speaker 5: And I'm like, why you have two great actors and
Speaker 5: a great storyline.
Speaker 1: Why I'd done it in a populated diner or a
Speaker 1: diner where people are coming in and out. It's regular daylight.
Speaker 1: It doesn't look like an episode of children. And it's
Speaker 1: like it feels much more like they're having a private,
Speaker 1: quiet conversation. The waitress keeps coming and interrupting them. He's
Speaker 1: taking the time off off a break, off the stove
Speaker 1: or whatever, flipp and burgers. He's on his break. They're
Speaker 1: talking in the corner. That feels much more dangerous. Actually,
Speaker 1: to have a conversation like that in an open environment,
Speaker 1: that would feel much more appropriate much and I think
Speaker 1: everything else could have stayed the same in terms of
Speaker 1: what was on the page. The choice was a bit
Speaker 1: a bit of a juvenile choice, I think from a
Speaker 1: director standpoint, to make that, yeah, lighting and the setup
Speaker 1: look like that, And in that regard, it did really
Speaker 1: make you feel like two completely separate episodes, particularly because
Speaker 1: we start with this hoot Nanny wedding backyard wedding, so
Speaker 1: it's like, Okay, we already got the kitch of something.
Speaker 1: We don't need more kitch, we need more authenticity.
Speaker 4: Yeah, or he could have just gone to her hotel room,
Speaker 4: you know, like met her at to have a private commerce.
Speaker 4: It was just it felt like, well, we've got this set,
Speaker 4: how do we mood it up? And it's it's weird.
Speaker 4: By the way, this episode of this podcast should be
Speaker 4: hot convict in a Dick Tracy movie saying it's good
Speaker 4: jot down producers. Well, then let's go back to the
Speaker 4: start and talk about the hoot Nanny.
Speaker 1: Oh, I had so much fun filming this. I did.
Speaker 4: I don't know if you I need to know about
Speaker 4: it because I wasn't there for this, and to be honest,
Speaker 4: I had zero collection that this even happened in the show,
Speaker 4: so I was wildly entertained.
Speaker 3: It's great.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was really fun. I had a ball, I mean,
Speaker 1: especially being pregnant in that whole scenario with the like
Speaker 1: the lawn chair and the rifle and the tweakie cake
Speaker 1: and the flannel and all of it was just.
Speaker 3: And the kid drinking beer and the.
Speaker 4: Whole ridiculous monster truck.
Speaker 5: Yeah, the monster truck hitting the twinkie cake.
Speaker 4: Yes, listen, there was so many hilarious, outrageous elements to
Speaker 4: that sequence. And you know, my favorite one was the
Speaker 4: hanging meats in the background above the altar. Yeah, was
Speaker 4: such a good touch by either set deck or art
Speaker 4: department to remember and to put that in there in
Speaker 4: Brooks Nightmare is the hanging meat at the web, yeah,
Speaker 4: at the altar exactly just so fun.
Speaker 5: And I remember, you know, even Carol Cutshawl doing such
Speaker 5: a great job because it's obviously supposed to be a reveal.
Speaker 5: So we took the top of an actual wedding dress
Speaker 5: that had like a white sequin bodice and cut off
Speaker 5: the bottom and then she stitched these layers of denim
Speaker 5: skirt with the you know, short front and the long
Speaker 5: back so we could show the cowboy boots and it
Speaker 5: would cut away from the veil and cut back and
Speaker 5: there'd be a cowboy hat over.
Speaker 3: It and a whole thing.
Speaker 5: It was so much fun to build that world, and
Speaker 5: they really leaned in.
Speaker 1: She was so I mean, she is so creative. Obviously,
Speaker 1: she's having a wonderful career right now. We really should
Speaker 1: do an episode about costumes and we just go through
Speaker 1: the sort of iconic costume moments in our show, and
Speaker 1: we need to bring in Carol and I mean, whoever
Speaker 1: was there at the beginning. I think maybe Alfonso. I
Speaker 1: can't remember that Carol was with us for the longest,
Speaker 1: but that would be really fun to bring them in
Speaker 1: and do it.
Speaker 4: We should also do a music one with Lindsay Wolfington
Speaker 4: because at least a dozen times we've said that, and
Speaker 4: it would just be fun to have her on for
Speaker 4: an app and just pick her brain and hear stories. Yeah,
Speaker 4: because she's going to get a nod in this episode
Speaker 4: as well with.
Speaker 1: The kid Yeah, cutty, Yeah, this was This was great.
Speaker 1: So the backyard wedding super fun. Took us a day
Speaker 1: to shoot. Nathan and Elmer fudd hat just so funny.
Speaker 1: Took the cake part in the pun. I guess.
Speaker 4: Let's talk about the cake, because I gotta say I'm
Speaker 4: not mad at the idea of a Twinkie cake. I'm
Speaker 4: interested to learn more. Yeah, doesn't it sound good?
Speaker 1: Kind of does?
Speaker 4: Is it a thing?
Speaker 3: I don't know if it's a thing, but it should be.
Speaker 1: It feels like it could be the like the brunch,
Speaker 1: like a cake at the brunch the morning after, like
Speaker 1: a fun little if you had a little barbecue brunch
Speaker 1: the next day or something.
Speaker 4: Or like a cake you make for yourself when you're
Speaker 4: going through a really bad breakout. Just sad. Cake soaks
Speaker 4: up your years. It's easy to eat.
Speaker 1: Somebody on Etsy's making Twinkie cakes.
Speaker 3: Probably it's also a good thing.
Speaker 5: I mean, and they and they do it in the sequence,
Speaker 5: but it's it's so pluckable.
Speaker 3: Yes, kind of a perk.
Speaker 4: Maybe we're onto something, guys, from the people that brought
Speaker 4: you corn dogs comes the Twinkie cake.
Speaker 5: Not No, it was also nice to do something I
Speaker 5: think so out of the ordinary, because everyone got to
Speaker 5: be ridiculous.
Speaker 1: Jamie coming out of the no, out.
Speaker 3: Of the Oh my god, and.
Speaker 5: Especially Haley and Nathan are in such a good adult
Speaker 5: place and it was fun to watch you and James
Speaker 5: go nuts. Yeah, like the hooting and hollering and being ridiculous.
Speaker 5: It gave you space to be so silly and you know,
Speaker 5: you're in these big professional sort of moments where everyone's
Speaker 5: grown up and fun but more serious, more mature, and
Speaker 5: to see you both be you know, wild and crazy.
Speaker 3: It was really a good time.
Speaker 1: Rob.
Speaker 3: Why weren't you at the wedding?
Speaker 1: I don't understand why you weren't in this Like Chantelle.
Speaker 4: Was there, Apparently I am. You know, Clay was not
Speaker 4: worthy of being in Brooks nightmare. Maybe she just thinks
Speaker 4: he's such a great guy that he wouldn't participate in.
Speaker 4: There's also the choice to have sweet, sweet Stephen Coletti
Speaker 4: just in a dinghy in the middle of that pond
Speaker 4: on his own. Was so funny and perfect. I had
Speaker 4: to rewind it to go.
Speaker 1: Was that Stephen was so random? That was a fun day.
Speaker 4: She was great this episode. His stuff was fun. I'm
Speaker 4: glad he's more involved the season.
Speaker 1: Me too. I loved Yes, I'm I'm really I continue
Speaker 1: to show up more and more for Chase. Whatever he's
Speaker 1: involved in. I'm like I want to I want to
Speaker 1: see what's happening? Yeah, what is it?
Speaker 5: I also love his little side with you when the
Speaker 5: girls are really vibing and he's just what He's like.
Speaker 1: You did this to me?
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's so great.
Speaker 1: Okay, So Brooke and Julian, this was my favorite part
Speaker 1: of the whole episode. This was there was a lot
Speaker 1: of you had a lot of like a Sara Disco
Speaker 1: Parker energy, like it was very sex and the city
Speaker 1: sort of vibe with this storyline. That's what struck me anyway.
Speaker 1: But I just had so much fun watching watching Austin,
Speaker 1: watching Austin play Julian. So he was having a ball,
Speaker 1: like he was lit up all the time at every
Speaker 1: little thing he was doing for you. And to see
Speaker 1: Brooke just receiving it all and enjoying it all and
Speaker 1: being loved on. You should wear red lipstick more often.
Speaker 1: Your mouth looks like a pretty heart when you wear
Speaker 1: red lipstick. It was so pretty. Learning French the sky diving,
Speaker 1: I mean, you have so much to tell us about
Speaker 1: all the adventures that you guys went on in this episode.
Speaker 1: But I just really really loved this storyline, the whole
Speaker 1: realm coram of it. I needed, I needed in my life.
Speaker 5: It was really fun just to do something adorable. And
Speaker 5: and you know we've talked about this. All of our
Speaker 5: characters go through these sort of trials and tribulations. It's
Speaker 5: a drama, and there's these seasons of sort of sadness
Speaker 5: or struggle whatever, and it's just so nice to see
Speaker 5: these two have a good time. Yeah, And I love that,
Speaker 5: you know, he figures out a way to bring some
Speaker 5: levity and some joy and some romance into her life
Speaker 5: when she is grieving this loss and also trying to
Speaker 5: really trying to be in that place of I'm I'm
Speaker 5: sad about this and I can't do the things I
Speaker 5: thought I would and my life isn't going to be
Speaker 5: what I thought it was.
Speaker 3: And he's like.
Speaker 5: Says, who, yeah, we can do things. We can have
Speaker 5: a nice time, and it's just so's it's so sweet
Speaker 5: and it's so refreshing, and I love seeing her, you know,
Speaker 5: try to figure something out for the wedding and it's
Speaker 5: not going to work and she's trying to stay positive
Speaker 5: and gets in the car and then it starts, you know,
Speaker 5: the French lesson starts. It's like everything is just so
Speaker 5: the gestures aren't even that big. I mean, obviously the
Speaker 5: sky diving is, but it's it's all these little things
Speaker 5: that are just so genuinely kind and life.
Speaker 4: She shows he cares. It's also so funny that there
Speaker 4: are these attempts that we've talked about so often to
Speaker 4: emasculate Julian or make him look silly, and then he's
Speaker 4: given material like this, and it's it's just it really
Speaker 4: shows it kind of shines light on just how immature
Speaker 4: the attempt at emasculation is, because it's things that like
Speaker 4: women don't care if a guy is good at high
Speaker 4: fiving or if he knows how to camp. It's like
Speaker 4: what they are giving him is like he's a great partner,
Speaker 4: he listens, he shows up, he's there, he's a teammate.
Speaker 4: And so it's it's so funny that, like the attempts
Speaker 4: to make him look silly are so overshadowed by episodes
Speaker 4: like this where it's like this dude is so grounded
Speaker 4: in himself and just so present and loving and awesome,
Speaker 4: Like this is the ideal teammate. Yeah, so to do anything. Look,
Speaker 4: he doesn't know how to high five. It's like, bfd,
Speaker 4: what who cares? Dude? Who what Yet.
Speaker 1: This is the Julian that we hoped for. It feels
Speaker 1: like such a great payoff after the journey that they've
Speaker 1: been through after breaking up and all of the drama
Speaker 1: with Alex, to see him growing and coming into fruition
Speaker 1: of the man that he wants to be in, the
Speaker 1: partner that he wants to be in, the partner that
Speaker 1: Brooke needs and wants. It feels like a great payoff.
Speaker 1: And the other great payoff is having watched Brooke hustle
Speaker 1: for so so so long and gaining so much. I mean,
Speaker 1: she she ran a multimillion dollar company. She's on top
Speaker 1: of the world. She has everything that people think they want.
Speaker 1: And to see her through all that time, there was
Speaker 1: so much drama and struggle, and.
Speaker 3: It's so.
Speaker 1: Perfect that now that all the money's gone and she
Speaker 1: really has no other choice but to discover the magic
Speaker 1: of ordinary days and to discover the little things in life.
Speaker 1: To see her so light and happy and enjoying the
Speaker 1: sucking the marrow out of just daily life. It's it's
Speaker 1: such a great over, like a huge long Seasons by
Speaker 1: Seasons arc. That feels like a great payoff that that
Speaker 1: we're getting to walk into with her. I'm really happy
Speaker 1: they did this.
Speaker 4: There's also a great kind of blink and you miss
Speaker 4: it line in that first scene I think with Brooke
Speaker 4: and Julian, where Julian's just says something to the effect
Speaker 4: I think Brook says like, aren't you worried about our
Speaker 4: moms becoming friends? And he's like, I'm just glad I
Speaker 4: got her out of the house, and one of you
Speaker 4: says like, yeah, they're having like a girl's trip to
Speaker 4: New York, And I just thought, dude, that is this
Speaker 4: spinoff episode we desperately needed Sylvia. Could you imagine Sylvia
Speaker 4: and Victoria do Manhattan? Just an episode of the two
Speaker 4: of them.
Speaker 3: I want that.
Speaker 1: I really would want Barbara to show up at some
Speaker 1: point as well.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I don't know how, but the three of them, that's
Speaker 1: the trifecta.
Speaker 4: Yeah, someone's getting arrested, that's a shirt. If Barbara's there,
Speaker 4: if ant Deb's in the mix.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that feels right. And to your point, Rob, the
Speaker 3: way that.
Speaker 5: Austin leans into this stuff is so sweet, Like these
Speaker 5: lines wind up being so funny, him being like, motorcycle
Speaker 5: is a state of mind. And then you know in
Speaker 5: the in the plane they do it again, and it's
Speaker 5: actually just so funny. She's freaking out about skydiving. They
Speaker 5: make that, you know, second best forty five second your
Speaker 5: life joke, but like it works because he's in on
Speaker 5: the joke and then he's quoting Hitch and it's like
Speaker 5: it's all so silly and so much fun and it
Speaker 5: is sweet to just see them have a good time together.
Speaker 4: And he owns his uncool that's the thing. Yeah, Because
Speaker 4: Austin leans in and commits so hard earnestly. The payoff
Speaker 4: on that joke is that he's not like, oh no,
Speaker 4: it's I thought. He just like it's a great movie.
Speaker 4: When you're like, are you really quoting Hitch? You brook
Speaker 4: has that great language. She's like, we're fifteen thousand feet
Speaker 4: in the air and a quarter of the plane is missing. Yeah,
Speaker 4: did you just quote Hitch? You know? And he doesn't
Speaker 4: like bach He goes, yeah, yeah, it's a great Yes,
Speaker 4: it's a great movie. It's like that's Julian man, he
Speaker 4: just owns it.
Speaker 1: Had you guys been skydiving before?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I had been a bunch, So I think I
Speaker 5: don't know if that's why it wound up.
Speaker 3: On the list.
Speaker 1: Had Austin been before.
Speaker 5: I feel like probably I don't remember, but I feel
Speaker 5: like he would have been. What was weird to me,
Speaker 5: the whole thing was so spot on. And then what
Speaker 5: was weird to me is that, you know, the the
Speaker 5: stunt folks who did this jumped out of the plane
Speaker 5: because obviously they weren't going to really let us jump
Speaker 5: out of a plane. That's an insurance nightmare.
Speaker 1: But you've gone so many times in your life, so
Speaker 1: it seemed like, okay, maybe they'll just.
Speaker 5: Yeah, no, they they would not have just insurance to
Speaker 5: the show would never have allowed that. But what was
Speaker 5: so weird to me is that, you know, whoever did
Speaker 5: those shots on Second Unit the skydivers jumped solo. I'm like, you,
Speaker 5: nobody's allowed to jump solo their first time skydive.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the two of them in tandem, Like you two.
Speaker 5: We know we both would have to be tandem jumping
Speaker 5: with an instructor. It's like we would be strapped to instructors, right.
Speaker 5: We would never have been allowed to jump out of
Speaker 5: the plane on our own.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: The first time, I was like, well, that sort of took.
Speaker 4: Me out of it. I went though they gave us
Speaker 4: the option, They were like, what can you do a
Speaker 4: twenty minute class and jump with an instructor tandem, or
Speaker 4: you can do a four hour class and jump by yourself,
Speaker 4: to which, of course, I'm like, are you going, Hi? No,
Speaker 4: I want the person strapped to my back. I do. No,
Speaker 4: I'm not that good of a student. But but here's
Speaker 4: the deal. Brooke wouldn't have done that. No, YEA like, no,
Speaker 4: strap the person to my back. I'm not going to
Speaker 4: be responsible for that. I might black out. Yeah, so crazy.
Speaker 5: I thought the whole thing was so sweet. I was like, whatever,
Speaker 5: give it, give it the license. But it was a
Speaker 5: moment where I was thinking, yeah, fucking right, she's screaming
Speaker 5: about how she's terrified, and then it's like, all right,
Speaker 5: psych and dives out come on.
Speaker 1: At least your jumpsuits were cute.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was very, very cute. The whole thing was
Speaker 5: super sweet. I do remember, and I can't remember what
Speaker 5: it was that we had to go and do once
Speaker 5: we finished that. You know, we did the whole skydiving
Speaker 5: sequence and then we had to move on to more
Speaker 5: of their adventure day. And I remember when we took
Speaker 5: the goggles off, the indents in our faces.
Speaker 3: Were so bad. I had to like ice roll my face.
Speaker 5: On the way to the next set, and we just
Speaker 5: had it was like something we hadn't thought about.
Speaker 1: Did they send you up in a plane for this
Speaker 1: or was any of this done like on us on stage?
Speaker 4: It looked like it was all done on the ground.
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, all on the ground. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Wow. I bought it, I know, right, totally bought it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it really worked. It was really sweet.
Speaker 4: So yeah, all of the Julian and Brooks stuff I
Speaker 4: thought was just it was perfect.
Speaker 5: The one thing though, and again, so much of it
Speaker 5: is so good, and then there are these choices in
Speaker 5: this episode that go sideways.
Speaker 3: Why was the moon so big?
Speaker 4: It's come on in the moon, dude, it looked like
Speaker 4: the Truman Show. I thought the same thing. I thought,
Speaker 4: for sure they're going to be on like a sound
Speaker 4: stage or something.
Speaker 1: I thought it was a gimmick. He had found some
Speaker 1: way of, yes, making a scene for them. The moon.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that moon was out of control. It was distractingly big.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Also, what's odd is that they chose to shoot the
Speaker 4: scene of Quinn throwing the gun off the same It
Speaker 4: looks let's be honest, it was the same pier, but
Speaker 4: even on the show. It looks identical. And one of
Speaker 4: the shots up at her from the water, you can
Speaker 4: actually see the moon, the moon in the sky behind her,
Speaker 4: and it is a totally normal sized moon. Yes, we
Speaker 4: paid extra for that big moon. That was CGI.
Speaker 3: Why I don't know, and I don't know. Why take
Speaker 3: the moon and just make it ten.
Speaker 5: Percent bigger in CGI, don't make it a thousand percent bigger.
Speaker 5: They're like, enhance, enhance, enhance, enhance, in hands like.
Speaker 3: Stop, please, please stop.
Speaker 1: No, we're in a Disney movie now.
Speaker 3: It was so silly.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I still grabbed all of it.
Speaker 3: I loved I did tighten, I did do.
Speaker 1: I think what worked. Yes, there was a moment you
Speaker 1: roll your eyes, you're like, oh my gosh, okay, But
Speaker 1: I think it was because there were so many other
Speaker 1: things in the episode that felt heightened, that there was
Speaker 1: a bit of a fairy tale element about the whole
Speaker 1: episode that kind of worked for me. The all of
Speaker 1: the slight absurdities. I just I just bought into it.
Speaker 1: Maybe I'm just in a good, good mood this morning
Speaker 1: and wanted to I don't know who.
Speaker 4: Yeah, listen, it's not a deal breaker, but I'm with you,
Speaker 4: so the moment we opened on that shot, I was
Speaker 4: like immediately pulled out of it, going, what is okay?
Speaker 4: They've got to be on a stage, Like you guys
Speaker 4: were so good that you didn't even need a moon
Speaker 4: in the shot, Like we didn't need any extra romance
Speaker 4: to like jiz it up. But it was, yeah, it
Speaker 4: was just like it was so it was so aggressive aggressive.
Speaker 1: That's exactly right, the aggressive moon.
Speaker 5: I was just gonna say, maybe to your point joint,
Speaker 5: maybe they were like, well, we've gone really extreme with
Speaker 5: the murder plot, so maybe we should just drama.
Speaker 3: Up a few of the other ones. Like I don't
Speaker 3: know if the idea was let's.
Speaker 1: Heighten because you don't remember that on the day, it
Speaker 1: wasn't like you guys were standing there and there was
Speaker 1: this giant moon projected or something.
Speaker 3: No.
Speaker 5: No, we were really out on the pier at night.
Speaker 3: And the moon. Here's the thing. The moon was.
Speaker 5: Out because there was reflection on the water, and it
Speaker 5: just felt like somebody was like, let's take that normal
Speaker 5: little dot and put it was like they replaced this
Speaker 5: behind me with this like this was real, and then
Speaker 5: they put this in the.
Speaker 1: Shop for reference. Friends. She's pointing to what is that
Speaker 1: little a microphone like sticker. I don't know what that is.
Speaker 5: This is like a little glass evil eye that I
Speaker 5: got traveling years ago, and.
Speaker 3: This is a globe of the world.
Speaker 1: They're next to each other, so you can imagine the
Speaker 1: sized difference.
Speaker 4: But you know, maybe they got like indie film with
Speaker 4: it and they were like, it's but it's just Brook
Speaker 4: is in such like a romantic fantasy bubble right now
Speaker 4: that maybe it was just she was feeling this moment
Speaker 4: and the moon felt that big too.
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe the same thing for Quinn. The diner just
Speaker 1: felt really creepy and all.
Speaker 3: That Oh my gosh, she felt like she was in
Speaker 3: a film noir.
Speaker 4: This episode should have won an Emmy.
Speaker 1: Okay, it's so.
Speaker 3: I like that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, the Brook and Julian on the periods, their et moment.
Speaker 3: The moon just takes up the whole thing.
Speaker 4: I loved a line that had nothing to do with
Speaker 4: the episode that made me laugh out loud was the
Speaker 4: whole Jamie and Nathan Runner being study buddies. His whole
Speaker 4: thing this season of just like coming into himself.
Speaker 1: I'm thrilled with this storyline for him, and yes, like.
Speaker 4: Being a dad and loving being a dad has been
Speaker 4: so great and so this whole the whole study buddy
Speaker 4: thing with the two of them was awesome. But when
Speaker 4: at the very start of it, he's like, let's let's
Speaker 4: play some Madden, and Nathan goes, I can't. I gotta
Speaker 4: study Wor's Chuck and he says, Chuck got grounded for
Speaker 4: using his name in the Banana rama pro Fantasy, and
Speaker 4: you see Nathan take a beat to sing the song
Speaker 4: to himself and then.
Speaker 3: Go it yeah, and didn't you do it too?
Speaker 4: I absolutely did it.
Speaker 3: We all did it.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah. Immediately my brain was like, I'm in the
Speaker 1: writer's room and I'm imagining they're trying to come up
Speaker 1: with a reason for Chuck to be grounded and somebody,
Speaker 1: somebody's kid had just done that at home and said
Speaker 1: it out loud. It's it's it's great. That was really fun.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I like that In the edit they exactly timed the
Speaker 5: reaction for Nathan correctly so that all of us got.
Speaker 3: To go Chuck.
Speaker 5: Like everybody did it together and it was great.
Speaker 1: That was fun.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I love the storyline for Nathan. I mean wow, like
Speaker 1: just finding his own way, figuring out taking these risks
Speaker 1: and to see that Nathan choose to take the hard class.
Speaker 1: You know, there was a time when there was a
Speaker 1: version of Nathan when he would have been like where
Speaker 1: do I coast? And yeah, that's so great.
Speaker 4: Also it's the appearance of Kellerman Peter Reigert. He's great,
Speaker 4: He's awesome, And yeah, I believe he played a college
Speaker 4: professor in Animal House, so I know that there was
Speaker 4: excitement because they were like, like, he was so known
Speaker 4: for that role that like, we got him as our
Speaker 4: college professor. But he's great. Yeah, he's really good.
Speaker 6: Man.
Speaker 4: That first scene with him in Nathan in the Office
Speaker 4: is awesome.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and the fact that you can tell he's going
Speaker 5: to be a curmudgeon, but Nathan feels up to it
Speaker 5: and they're kind of sizing each other up. It doesn't
Speaker 5: lean into conflict too fast, but it gives you a
Speaker 5: little taste.
Speaker 3: And the whole.
Speaker 5: Storyline for Nathan, you know, like you were saying, joy
Speaker 5: is so good because we get to see him maturing
Speaker 5: and trying to make all of these choices. And what's
Speaker 5: cool about it is we get to watch it, but
Speaker 5: we also get to see him talk about it in
Speaker 5: ways that don't feel so much like exposition because they're
Speaker 5: lessons for Jamie, the story about how they lost to
Speaker 5: Kansas by three but they were supposed to lose by
Speaker 5: twenty seven, but they worked so hard and they practiced
Speaker 5: so hard, and it taught him something about being determined.
Speaker 5: It's such a good way to show growth in a
Speaker 5: character without being like, and you know what I've learned
Speaker 5: about my life?
Speaker 1: You know, yes, which we fall into that trap a lot,
Speaker 1: which I think is inevitable, especially on a show with
Speaker 1: this many seasons. It's easy to fall into the trap
Speaker 1: of like, just explain it in dialogue and have people
Speaker 1: just say say the thing so everybody can catch up
Speaker 1: if they missed it. And I love it when they
Speaker 1: just take the little extra time to do things like
Speaker 1: that and make it feel natural. That's good.
Speaker 4: It's effective. It's like Hayley writing to Lucas, you know.
Speaker 4: It's a it's a great device for getting inside her
Speaker 4: head without actually having her. Yeah, sit there and do
Speaker 4: the talking head exposition that everyone dreads doing.
Speaker 5: Totally, and the whole, the whole little container of this
Speaker 5: evening of studying with a dad and his son is
Speaker 5: just so sweet because you get to see how serious
Speaker 5: it is. But the kid helps to make it lighthearted
Speaker 5: in the games and the you know, the spelling drills
Speaker 5: and the whole thing. It's just it's a really nice
Speaker 5: peak into their world.
Speaker 1: It's just so relatable, like this, this family dynamic, the
Speaker 1: three of them. Even at the end Jamie with the
Speaker 1: Tuto R and O and tutor you know, yes, yes,
Speaker 1: so good. Did you learn nothing?
Speaker 4: He has that line where he says to Nathan, Wow,
Speaker 4: first tudor girl, now tutor son. Yeah, that's nice. And
Speaker 4: there's a great exchange where I think it's like after
Speaker 4: like the first time that they talk about the studying,
Speaker 4: Nathan looks at him and goes, how'd you get so smart?
Speaker 4: And he turns around and says, I have my mom's
Speaker 4: jeans too, And with that's skipping up beat, Nathan goes,
Speaker 4: you also got her height. Yes, it's like okay, dad,
Speaker 4: apparently we touched.
Speaker 1: A nerve and just so show the thing that our
Speaker 1: show became famous for in the first place, which was
Speaker 1: the small town the again, this sort of magic of
Speaker 1: ordinary days. How valuable that really is. Like we can
Speaker 1: have a lot of drama, we can have big, exciting, bizarre, strange,
Speaker 1: very dramatic things happen. But the core in the heart
Speaker 1: of the show is just the ordinary and the things
Speaker 1: that you can relate to as a as a family,
Speaker 1: as a member of a family in your real life,
Speaker 1: and just watching the little nuances here. I loved it.
Speaker 1: It warmed my heart.
Speaker 4: The whole Red Bedroom trick stuff was great, and I
Speaker 4: loved how it all started. I mean, it was great
Speaker 4: that Mia was the one who got kid Cuddy. Yeah,
Speaker 4: and then I loved Haley tricking Mia into wanting to
Speaker 4: bartend by getting Alex to bartend. So good. It was
Speaker 4: fun watching you play kind of the mastermind behind the
Speaker 4: scenes for this whole night.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was fun. I loved this. I like Haley
Speaker 1: being in this spot. I mean, Haley's always done a
Speaker 1: lot of mother henning, like moving around between different characters
Speaker 1: and different storylines and just like putting in little bits
Speaker 1: and pieces of information here and there and helping everybody,
Speaker 1: you know, like maintain the status quo. I feel like
Speaker 1: she took her role as mom, becoming a mother early
Speaker 1: just became a part of her identity, and so she
Speaker 1: was She's always been this, so it's really fun to
Speaker 1: see her do it at Red Bedroom too. That it's
Speaker 1: not just for the people that are the closest in
Speaker 1: her life, but also the people that she's that she's
Speaker 1: working with in her job, and she wants to see
Speaker 1: young women in their careers taking off and really mentoring
Speaker 1: them and like just managing Everything's she's stepping into this.
Speaker 1: She's stepping into the Karen Row role really in a
Speaker 1: lot of ways, and that's been that's been fun to see.
Speaker 4: I also loved how she didn't tell Aarin that she
Speaker 4: was going to be opening for Kid Cuddy, which was
Speaker 4: real risky, right. That kind of surprised me because I imagine
Speaker 4: as a musician, like, you know, you want to prepare yourself.
Speaker 4: But I love the choice that they made that she
Speaker 4: didn't do the thing you thought she was going to do,
Speaker 4: which is, oh, I'm so nervous, I can't do this, yea.
Speaker 4: So she immediately went to a place of I'm going
Speaker 4: to kill it. I was like, oh, and she did.
Speaker 1: I mean, Laura is a bore so good out of
Speaker 1: the park. I mean, we had heard a little bit
Speaker 1: from her before, but she really let loose and showed
Speaker 1: everybody what she's made of in this episode. It was great.
Speaker 1: I was hoping when Kid Cutie came up at the
Speaker 1: end that he was going to be like, come on
Speaker 1: tour with us, because again, there were so many things
Speaker 1: that were a bit outrageous in the episode that I
Speaker 1: just would have bought it. I mean, I know it's
Speaker 1: a little it's a little hokey and expected, but I
Speaker 1: don't know. I was kind of I was hoping he
Speaker 1: was going to be like, you were so great, you
Speaker 1: should come open for us on the road, and when
Speaker 1: he didn't, he was just like, keep going, you're doing great.
Speaker 4: I was like, oh, I thought he was going to
Speaker 4: try to poach her. I thought he was going to say,
Speaker 4: you're talented, you should join our label.
Speaker 1: Ooh, that would have been juicy, but.
Speaker 4: Said he was just a nice guy. Want wah.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 5: One of the things that was weird to me again
Speaker 5: just some of the choices, but maybe the whole point
Speaker 5: was they needed to heighten everything in the episode.
Speaker 3: They crush that show. Laura is so good. He is
Speaker 3: so good.
Speaker 5: Also, baby kid Cuttie, I die like just the cutest
Speaker 5: human being. But I was like, why at that end
Speaker 5: when he comes to talk to her, does she have
Speaker 5: full backing in an empty bar? It's just her at
Speaker 5: the piano and it's a fully produced song playing.
Speaker 1: Oh that's right. Wait, I guess I thought she was
Speaker 1: just playing to a crowd and I was not, No.
Speaker 5: She's just playing in the back of the bar, but
Speaker 5: over a full backing track.
Speaker 3: And I was like, we know how good Laura is.
Speaker 3: Let her just sing with the piano.
Speaker 1: I was getting set up for the podcast at this point.
Speaker 1: It was like, you know, forty in the episode.
Speaker 3: We were like, oh, I gotta plug in my computer.
Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah, but it was a really weird. It took
Speaker 5: me out of it because I was like, it's just
Speaker 5: her by herself. Why never, never mind? And then I
Speaker 5: was like, I gotta stop.
Speaker 3: I was just I was then by then I was
Speaker 3: noticing all the weird things.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 5: It felt like another enhance hands and Hands.
Speaker 3: We didn't need it.
Speaker 1: I think the attempt was to make everything feel yeah,
Speaker 1: like that fairy tale ish, kind of a little bit exaggerated.
Speaker 1: And it doesn't always work when you try and do
Speaker 1: something like that with episodic because you still have to
Speaker 1: stick to the rules of the world, because the show
Speaker 1: still has to a little familiar for the audience, because
Speaker 1: they can't show up and turn on the TV and
Speaker 1: see all their favorite actors in the same setting, but
Speaker 1: the show looks completely different. So I think this was
Speaker 1: an attempt to stay within the rules and the boundaries
Speaker 1: but make it feel more like a fairy tale. But
Speaker 1: just wasn't I just don't I understand why it felt
Speaker 1: like it wasn't executed as efficiently as it could have been.
Speaker 4: Did either of you perk up? When there's the exchange
Speaker 4: at the bar between me and Alex where Alex walks
Speaker 4: over to me and goes, I'm up to four hundred
Speaker 4: and fifty reply an over her shoulder at Mia says,
Speaker 4: I'm right on your heels, drama queen.
Speaker 3: Yes, I was like, what I did the same thing.
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 1: What about Alex and Chase and this thing at the
Speaker 1: in the stock room?
Speaker 3: What do we say?
Speaker 4: They could only let them be friends for all of
Speaker 4: twelve minutes before Alex had to undermine it all, before
Speaker 4: she had to be duplicitous.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, as she continues to prove that this
Speaker 1: is like, this feels like the baseline of her When
Speaker 1: I say character, I mean like a what's another word
Speaker 1: for like your characters as a human, like your integrity.
Speaker 3: Baseline, Yeah, her core.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it just feels like, no matter how many times
Speaker 1: she seems like she's really sweet and just trying to
Speaker 1: be nice, I don't know. I just don't. I don't
Speaker 1: trust her at this point. She's done it too many
Speaker 1: times completely.
Speaker 4: She is wildly untrustworthy. That's it. Jana is so good
Speaker 4: in that scene. Yes that I did find myself going, oh,
Speaker 4: she might actually just really like him. Oh no, like,
Speaker 4: because it does look like she's playing a game. It
Speaker 4: looks like all of us is a game tour at
Speaker 4: this point because we have seen so much of this
Speaker 4: back and forth stuff. But she's so good and the
Speaker 4: look she gives him is so sincere that it's it's
Speaker 4: so strong because then it makes it actually challenging for
Speaker 4: Chase as opposed to being it's being very easy to
Speaker 4: go get off, what go away?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 4: You know, so she did great with it, but same,
Speaker 4: I was like, come on, yeah, she's all over the place.
Speaker 5: But they're so fun together and the crowd trick is
Speaker 5: the whole thing is just fun to watch and so
Speaker 5: as a choice, as dramatic as it is, it's great
Speaker 5: because it kind of stops you in your tracks in
Speaker 5: the audience and you're like, uh, and we know it's
Speaker 5: coming because when she throws that bottle of tequila in
Speaker 5: the trash, You're like.
Speaker 3: Oh no, yeah, oh no. And I loved it. I
Speaker 3: was like, this is the kind of drama that I want.
Speaker 4: Speaking of breaking off from the norm of our show,
Speaker 4: let's talk about that final scene. Katie is driving back
Speaker 4: to Tree Hill listening to a perfect song, You're going
Speaker 4: to get You Away, right. All of it is working
Speaker 4: for me until the last moment where she turns and
Speaker 4: stops looking at the road and just looks down the camera,
Speaker 4: looks straight into the lens. What is that Why it's
Speaker 4: already so ominous, nothing needs to happen, and then she
Speaker 4: breaks the fourth wall, like well in the office. It
Speaker 4: was just it was so strange. I didn't get it.
Speaker 5: And by the way, she's not the only one who
Speaker 5: does it. They also directed Kid Cuddy in the concert
Speaker 5: to take his sunglasses off and look straight into.
Speaker 3: Lens, and I'm like, it's not amusing a video.
Speaker 5: Yes, he's playing himself, but he's also acting on our show.
Speaker 5: He's not supposed to break the fourth wall. It's not
Speaker 5: a music video shoot. So it's a choice that was
Speaker 5: made by the director. Twice in the episode and it
Speaker 5: was so weird.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's playing himself, but in the One Tree Hill universe, yes,
Speaker 4: there aren't cameras recording the other people. And it's not
Speaker 4: like Julian had a camera behind the scenes or there
Speaker 4: was justification for you.
Speaker 5: Right, If Julian was shooting it and then he looked
Speaker 5: into camera and it cut to a great close up,
Speaker 5: it would have worked, but it pulled me out of
Speaker 5: it then. And then the ominousness of Katie and the
Speaker 5: storm and you know there's a giant storm brewing.
Speaker 1: Things are going to get crazy. The audience already knows. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we already know this is gonna's gonna get real very soon.
Speaker 1: The second you see Katie and see her singing, which
Speaker 1: also I think went on a little long, Like yep,
Speaker 1: it was just a little too long. I didn't need
Speaker 1: that much of her singing along with the song because
Speaker 1: it gave me time then to start listening to her
Speaker 1: singing rather than listening to like just catching the moment
Speaker 1: of like this is creepy.
Speaker 3: I was like, oh, it's creepy, and then I was like, oh,
Speaker 3: she has a great voice. And then I was like,
Speaker 3: wait a second, what's the her on the radio, saying
Speaker 3: like it just it was it was too long.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's too much. You can't give the audience that
Speaker 1: much time to start thinking about what's happening. Otherwise they
Speaker 1: start doing exactly what we're doing and picking it apart.
Speaker 4: And Amanda's great, like you didn't need the rain and
Speaker 4: you didn't need the song. But it's fine to have them,
Speaker 4: but it's sort of like you have her giving a
Speaker 4: great performance. I'm already concerned. And then we see driving
Speaker 4: past the Tree Hill sign that's really all you need? Yeah,
Speaker 4: the rain, cool mood, the song heavy handed but still works. Yeah,
Speaker 4: extra fifteen seconds, followed by her looking down the camera
Speaker 4: too much.
Speaker 1: Didn't need it, We didn't need it. You just didn't
Speaker 1: need it. But I think that what I'm really excited
Speaker 1: about is the fact that she's back and that, in fact,
Speaker 1: it justified so much of what we just watched with
Speaker 1: Paul and Chantelle, because all of Quinn's fears that it
Speaker 1: feels so ridiculous, and it's like Katie's gone, Okay, you
Speaker 1: found her, but she's not pursuing you. There's just you know,
Speaker 1: can you try and let it go and live your life.
Speaker 1: It really gave justification to this whole thing that we
Speaker 1: have been maybe questioning Quinn's motive or sanity is not
Speaker 1: the right word, but we've been we've been questioning what
Speaker 1: she's choosing to do. And now I'm like, yeah, there's
Speaker 1: no question you need to be prepared.
Speaker 3: Except she threw away the gun.
Speaker 1: Oho.
Speaker 5: Nos, Yeah, you know, yeah, but that's just it, right.
Speaker 5: The worry and the fear and the sort of trauma
Speaker 5: she's experiencing is so spot on.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I wish they'd just let it be that and didn't
Speaker 5: try to make it feel like a film noir. Yeah,
Speaker 5: so that when you see Katie you're like, oh my god. Yeah,
Speaker 5: based on how dramatically they shot all of that stuff
Speaker 5: for her and Dan's storyline, I'm not surprised at all
Speaker 5: that Katie's back, not even a little like surprise me.
Speaker 4: The throwing away of the gun, that sequence, the way
Speaker 4: they wrapped up was was great though, because I know,
Speaker 4: as an audience member, I was rooting for her to
Speaker 4: get rid of the gun. I was like, this has
Speaker 4: never been the answer. And when you finally see her
Speaker 4: getting rid of the gun, you're like, oh, thank god, okay, good. Yeah,
Speaker 4: And then they immediately follow it with danger driving into
Speaker 4: town and you're like, yeah, Okay, we shouldn't have done that.
Speaker 4: I was rooting for the wrong thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, lots lots in this episode. I'm looking for gonna
Speaker 1: get crazy now we know, Yeah, it's gonna get right. Yeah, weird?
Speaker 1: Anything else about this episode before we do questions?
Speaker 4: Fan questions outside animals can't fart inside?
Speaker 3: Yes, honorable mention for sure.
Speaker 4: Listener question, what do we got?
Speaker 1: Katie says, I wish we could have seen Haley reading
Speaker 1: a letter from Lucas, just to hear what was going
Speaker 1: on in their lives. We don't hear from Lucas until
Speaker 1: the last season. What would y'all imagine Lucas, Peyton, and
Speaker 1: Sawyer are up to. I don't even remember where they moved.
Speaker 1: Where did they go?
Speaker 3: I don't know they left Tree Hill.
Speaker 1: And you know, writing off in the sunset in the comet,
Speaker 1: but I don't know why they left or where they moved.
Speaker 1: Did Lucas get a because he can write from anywhere?
Speaker 4: Yeah, they left in a convertible, So I'm going to
Speaker 4: guess maybe the West coast where it's a bit warmer
Speaker 4: and less rainy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, feels like that's Yeah, true.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I feel like I remember a West Coast thing
Speaker 5: or that, you know, they wanted to travel, and while
Speaker 5: he wrote his next novel, this is the problem. They
Speaker 5: didn't give us enough to make where.
Speaker 3: Our friends went make sense.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I have no idea. Who knows, Like did
Speaker 1: they start a new life in Maine or in Napa
Speaker 1: or are they renting a trailer just driving around the country?
Speaker 1: Did they move? Yeah's through? Where are they?
Speaker 5: It's like, you know, and I know we brought this
Speaker 5: up obviously with the powers that be at the time,
Speaker 5: and I feel like it was more a personal beef
Speaker 5: than anything that made sense.
Speaker 3: For our characters, which is unfortunate.
Speaker 5: But I used to ask and be like, why can't
Speaker 5: Brook be getting text messages from Peyton? Why can't you
Speaker 5: see them texting? Like why am I not getting photo
Speaker 5: updates of this baby?
Speaker 3: It feels really weird.
Speaker 5: And there was always a you know, well, it's not important,
Speaker 5: it's not in the world, and it's like, well, it
Speaker 5: feels pretty freaking important.
Speaker 1: I mean to Brook and Haley built around it, so
Speaker 1: it's important.
Speaker 5: Yeah, It's like for us, you know, those are our
Speaker 5: those are our people, Like Peyton's my person Lucas is
Speaker 5: Haley's person.
Speaker 3: It's like so weird.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Karen and Karen, like everybody, they just they just
Speaker 1: faded off into the distance.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I do wish they had kept that up in some
Speaker 1: more clear way. I don't think I've been hard. No,
Speaker 1: I don't either. I think it was some sort of
Speaker 1: personal I think it was the personal beef behind the
Speaker 1: scenes that they just like not they but he, our creator,
Speaker 1: just didn't want to have He was hoping the audience
Speaker 1: would just forget about them.
Speaker 5: Which seems so stupid because it's a choice rooted in
Speaker 5: ego and it's like, dude, you wrote those characters. Yeah,
Speaker 5: so you knew they were great, So why are we
Speaker 5: suddenly pretending they're not.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like trying to prove, like the you can
Speaker 1: go on without them, and it did, but like, it
Speaker 1: could have made so much more sense. It would have
Speaker 1: been so much more nice to just have their presence
Speaker 1: still around in some way.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it would have been a better continuation of that world,
Speaker 5: particularly because we were I mean, what a crazy thing
Speaker 5: to say, but in the middle of our show is
Speaker 5: when people got iPhones. Yeah, it became really easy to
Speaker 5: text photos and videos and to have these long updates
Speaker 5: with your friends that you couldn't have before when you
Speaker 5: were texting in T nine on a razor being like
Speaker 5: one two.
Speaker 3: Three, there's a t you know, and like it.
Speaker 5: It would have it would have fit the time, and
Speaker 5: it would have fit our world and our people and anyway,
Speaker 5: you're right, Katie, we agree it would have been nice.
Speaker 1: We wish to we wish. Should we just been a wheel?
Speaker 1: Honorable mention, honorable mention. Yes, only animals can't part outside
Speaker 1: or something like that.
Speaker 5: Outside, animals camp fart inside there it is, oh.
Speaker 4: Joy immediately most likely to get.
Speaker 1: House yep, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's definitely happened to me.
Speaker 4: Ye.
Speaker 3: Sure.
Speaker 1: Have you guys never gotten locked out of your house?
Speaker 1: I had to call a locksmith.
Speaker 4: I have.
Speaker 5: I got locked out of my house on location once filming, uh,
Speaker 5: and it was it was. It was not great, and
Speaker 5: it was also really stressful because it was in the
Speaker 5: middle of winter in Toronto and the place I was
Speaker 5: renting had like a smart lock, and I'd never had one,
Speaker 5: and ever since I'd moved into the house, like when
Speaker 5: I would undo the lock, it would flash yellow at me,
Speaker 5: and I just thought that was the way they I
Speaker 5: don't know, that's how it unlocks, and it meant the
Speaker 5: battery was dying. And so for I don't know, six weeks,
Speaker 5: I just would like walk into this rental house.
Speaker 3: And one night at like twelve.
Speaker 5: Thirty I guess technically twelve thirty in the morning, I
Speaker 5: got home and it was February and it was.
Speaker 3: Like negative twenty degrees and.
Speaker 5: I clicked the thing and it starts flashing red and
Speaker 5: I everything.
Speaker 3: It's like all the energy left my body.
Speaker 4: And I was like, oh, no, tell me, transpo van
Speaker 4: hadn't left you yet.
Speaker 5: I sure had. I was like, get out of here.
Speaker 5: I got a like, you know, I was unloading shit
Speaker 5: and dealing with the snow on the porch. So I
Speaker 5: had to call the sweet driver and be like, could
Speaker 5: could you come.
Speaker 3: Around the block?
Speaker 5: I think I have a little, a wee bit of
Speaker 5: an emergency. And I literally had to. I had to
Speaker 5: figure out how to break into my own house with
Speaker 5: my awesome transpo driver because there was not we couldn't
Speaker 5: get a single locksmith company to answer the phone because
Speaker 5: it was almost one in the morning.
Speaker 3: Is it cheaper?
Speaker 1: Locksmiths are not cheap. Is it cheaper to bay in
Speaker 1: her place? A window or call locksmith.
Speaker 4: It's easy to call locksmith. I don't know the relative pricing. Well, yes,
Speaker 4: because think about it, to replace a window, you have
Speaker 4: to call someone, they have to come out and do it,
Speaker 4: or at least.
Speaker 3: A lot to measure the glass, and your entire.
Speaker 4: Thing is contained within you know, yeah, thirty minutes of
Speaker 4: them being there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 5: It turned into like quite a comedic evening and involved
Speaker 5: scaling a balcony and we had a great time at
Speaker 5: the end of it, and I was like, this is
Speaker 5: going to be a story.
Speaker 3: I'm always going to remember.
Speaker 1: Why didn't we ever do that on the show? That
Speaker 1: would have been a fun episode, like just something that
Speaker 1: was in the house that somebody had to get for
Speaker 1: other things in the episode to rely on. And the
Speaker 1: whole episode for that character storyline is just break trying
Speaker 1: to figure out different ways to break into the house.
Speaker 4: Right. You know how janitors have those little devices that
Speaker 4: they clip onto their belt or anyone with lots of
Speaker 4: keys where it's like like a tether in it, like
Speaker 4: your ass back and all the keys. I feel like, joy,
Speaker 4: we should get you like three of those, like one
Speaker 4: for your iPhone one for your air pods. One for
Speaker 4: your keys. You just have this like utility belt as
Speaker 4: you walk around in public, so that you can never
Speaker 4: lose anything.
Speaker 1: I think that's that's something that I should invest in. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's not a biology.
Speaker 4: Guys. We're taking this to shark Tank.
Speaker 3: We're doing it.
Speaker 1: We're doing it knowing me so well. Rob, that's really sweet.
Speaker 4: You're perfect. Joy.
Speaker 5: Don't change, don't ever change, never, never ever forget to
Speaker 5: lose your Keith.
Speaker 1: Okay, what are we doing next week?
Speaker 3: All right, friends, I can't believe it.
Speaker 5: Next week is season eight, episode eleven, Darkness on the
Speaker 5: Edge of Town.
Speaker 4: Oh boy, I wonder if that has anything to do
Speaker 4: with Katie.
Speaker 1: I wonder, I wonder direct Thanks for joining us everyone,
Speaker 1: This was a thanks friends, fun one. Good to see you. Bye. Hey,
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