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Speaker 1: First of all, you don't know me.

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Speaker 2: We all about that high school drama girl, drauma girl,

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Speaker 2: all about.

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Speaker 1: Them high school queens.

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Speaker 3: We'll take you for a ride, and our comic.

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Speaker 1: Girl sharing for the right trauma, Queens of girl fashion.

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Speaker 3: But your tough girl, you could sit with us.

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Speaker 2: Girl drama, queens drama, Queens drama, queens drama, drama, queens drama, queens.

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Speaker 1: Kind of gorgeous faces, gorgeous friends and people we love.

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Speaker 1: I shouldn't start, go someone else do it?

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Speaker 4: No, No, that stays in the episode.

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Speaker 3: Keep going.

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Speaker 1: Why does my brain work faster than my mouth? I'm

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Speaker 1: always like stumbling over my words because my brain is

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Speaker 1: like further down into the sentence then my mouth can

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Speaker 1: catch up to And then I start saying syllables that

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Speaker 1: don't make sense, and then I get self conscious about it.

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Speaker 1: Does that happen to anybody else?

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Speaker 5: Well, it's like when a little kid is like running

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Speaker 5: slightly downhill too fast, and you see their legs start

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Speaker 5: to spin out of control and you're like, oh boy,

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Speaker 5: oh boy, out about to go to the er.

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Speaker 4: It's part of your charm. Joy, It's part of your

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Speaker 4: magic that occasionally, you know, the words get jumbled up.

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Speaker 1: It's just the occasional fumble, you know, are for the course. Well,

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Speaker 1: you know what didn't fumble? Was this episode?

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Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 1: Oh no, you guys.

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Speaker 4: Like safety Space says, maybe it did.

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Speaker 1: No, I really liked this episode.

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Speaker 4: Okay, first, let's just tell the people we watched. Season eight,

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Speaker 4: Episode ten lists plans airdate of November twentieth, twenty ten.

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Speaker 4: Synopsis reads in order to get an agent's license, Nathan

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Speaker 4: returns to college boy does he ever? Haley sets up

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Speaker 4: a concert at Trick featuring Kid Cuddy appearing as himself.

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Speaker 4: Julian helps Brook complete her bucket list she had made

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Speaker 4: before losing her company. Alex and Mia start a friendly

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Speaker 4: competition as they take over the bar at Trick. Meanwhile,

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Speaker 4: Quinn sneaks out of town to visit a fun familiar

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Speaker 4: face that was directed and written. No, it was. It

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Speaker 4: was written by Johnny Richardson and it was directed. Okay,

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Speaker 4: so you boked when Joy said this episode was great,

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Speaker 4: So lay on us.

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Speaker 5: I did, because I felt like this episode kept giving

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Speaker 5: me whiplash. There were things about it that were so great.

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Speaker 5: I loved the teaser and the wedding nightmare I loved.

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Speaker 5: I thought, I actually thought all of Brooke and Julian's

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Speaker 1: Yes, Gangbusters just so good.

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Speaker 5: And I loved all of your stuff, joy in the

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Speaker 5: way that everybody's sort of taking charge at Trick a

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Speaker 5: bit and at the record label, and Alex and me

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Speaker 5: in a completely different universe every time we cut to

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Speaker 5: the Quinn and Dan's stuff. Yeah, and I was like, Yeah,

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Speaker 5: what is happening? And also kudos to Paul and Chantelle

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Speaker 5: for being such good sports with the most absurd dialogue

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Speaker 3: People have to give each other.

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Speaker 5: And I was like, how in one episode can our

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Speaker 3: And I couldn't. I couldn't make sense of it.

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Speaker 4: Yes, I agree, we watched two talented actors do their

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Speaker 4: very best do the Lord's work with some highly questionable

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Speaker 4: dialogue and material. In general, First of all, it just

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Speaker 4: didn't make any sense. Okay, it didn't make sense for

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Speaker 3: Right, no other customers, no other people.

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Speaker 1: As the lighting is like it's nighttime always in this dinastic.

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Speaker 4: The reason that you have no customers is because it's lit,

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Speaker 4: like people go there to kill other people.

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Speaker 5: Yes, hard spotlights on them. I don't know why they're

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Speaker 3: Is it night three?

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Speaker 5: Have they spent three days in the diner together? Like

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Speaker 3: It was so it pulled me.

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Speaker 5: Out of the episode so much, and I'm so glad

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Speaker 5: we're seeing Dan and I get the device, and I

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Speaker 5: totally get the You're the only person I know that's

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Speaker 4: At one point, Dan says, you know, is this is

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Speaker 4: this the life you want? Having to live away from

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Speaker 4: you chose to walk away from like, you are not

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Speaker 4: It's like, what happened on your journey that you decided.

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Speaker 4: I think I'd rather be bitter at a greasy spoon

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Speaker 1: Okay, hold on, agreed. I can see all of that.

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Speaker 1: I feel all of that. Okay. As far as Quinn

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Speaker 1: but for me, Quinn's dialogue felt honest. To her, Dan's

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Speaker 5: And I think you, as we do. You love Paul

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Speaker 4: I also feel like, yeah, well it's he. He kind

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Speaker 4: I honestly think it's it was an issue of aesthetic.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like a Dick Tracy movie.

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Speaker 1: Why I'd done it in a populated diner or a

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Speaker 1: Oh, I had so much fun filming this. I did.

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Speaker 4: I don't know if you I need to know about

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was really fun. I had a ball, I mean,

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Speaker 4: Yes, listen, there was so many hilarious, outrageous elements to

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Speaker 4: She was great this episode. His stuff was fun. I'm

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Speaker 1: But you've gone so many times in your life, so

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00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:20,800
Speaker 1: it seemed like, okay, maybe they'll just.

439
00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:25,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, no, they they would not have just insurance to

440
00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:28,240
Speaker 5: the show would never have allowed that. But what was

441
00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:32,000
Speaker 5: so weird to me is that, you know, whoever did

442
00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:39,119
Speaker 5: those shots on Second Unit the skydivers jumped solo. I'm like, you,

443
00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:41,920
Speaker 5: nobody's allowed to jump solo their first time skydive.

444
00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:44,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, the two of them in tandem, Like you two.

445
00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:47,520
Speaker 5: We know we both would have to be tandem jumping

446
00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:52,040
Speaker 5: with an instructor. It's like we would be strapped to instructors, right.

447
00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:54,359
Speaker 5: We would never have been allowed to jump out of

448
00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:55,920
Speaker 5: the plane on our own.

449
00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:56,840
Speaker 3: Yeah.

450
00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:59,320
Speaker 5: The first time, I was like, well, that sort of took.

451
00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:01,640
Speaker 4: Me out of it. I went though they gave us

452
00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:03,439
Speaker 4: the option, They were like, what can you do a

453
00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:08,240
Speaker 4: twenty minute class and jump with an instructor tandem, or

454
00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:11,400
Speaker 4: you can do a four hour class and jump by yourself,

455
00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:14,320
Speaker 4: to which, of course, I'm like, are you going, Hi? No,

456
00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:17,160
Speaker 4: I want the person strapped to my back. I do. No,

457
00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:19,520
Speaker 4: I'm not that good of a student. But but here's

458
00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:23,399
Speaker 4: the deal. Brooke wouldn't have done that. No, YEA like, no,

459
00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:25,639
Speaker 4: strap the person to my back. I'm not going to

460
00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:30,520
Speaker 4: be responsible for that. I might black out. Yeah, so crazy.

461
00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:32,720
Speaker 5: I thought the whole thing was so sweet. I was like, whatever,

462
00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:35,479
Speaker 5: give it, give it the license. But it was a

463
00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:38,840
Speaker 5: moment where I was thinking, yeah, fucking right, she's screaming

464
00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:40,800
Speaker 5: about how she's terrified, and then it's like, all right,

465
00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:43,359
Speaker 5: psych and dives out come on.

466
00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:45,960
Speaker 1: At least your jumpsuits were cute.

467
00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:50,199
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was very, very cute. The whole thing was

468
00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:53,679
Speaker 5: super sweet. I do remember, and I can't remember what

469
00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:56,840
Speaker 5: it was that we had to go and do once

470
00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:59,240
Speaker 5: we finished that. You know, we did the whole skydiving

471
00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:01,520
Speaker 5: sequence and then we had to move on to more

472
00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:04,600
Speaker 5: of their adventure day. And I remember when we took

473
00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:08,479
Speaker 5: the goggles off, the indents in our faces.

474
00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:12,440
Speaker 3: Were so bad. I had to like ice roll my face.

475
00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:16,439
Speaker 5: On the way to the next set, and we just

476
00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:18,040
Speaker 5: had it was like something we hadn't thought about.

477
00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:19,760
Speaker 1: Did they send you up in a plane for this

478
00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:23,360
Speaker 1: or was any of this done like on us on stage?

479
00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:25,159
Speaker 4: It looked like it was all done on the ground.

480
00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:27,160
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, all on the ground. Yeah.

481
00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:30,560
Speaker 1: Wow. I bought it, I know, right, totally bought it.

482
00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:32,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, it really worked. It was really sweet.

483
00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:35,080
Speaker 4: So yeah, all of the Julian and Brooks stuff I

484
00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:37,400
Speaker 4: thought was just it was perfect.

485
00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:40,960
Speaker 5: The one thing though, and again, so much of it

486
00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:43,040
Speaker 5: is so good, and then there are these choices in

487
00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:44,840
Speaker 5: this episode that go sideways.

488
00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:46,280
Speaker 3: Why was the moon so big?

489
00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:49,560
Speaker 4: It's come on in the moon, dude, it looked like

490
00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:51,400
Speaker 4: the Truman Show. I thought the same thing. I thought,

491
00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:52,840
Speaker 4: for sure they're going to be on like a sound

492
00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:54,280
Speaker 4: stage or something.

493
00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:56,159
Speaker 1: I thought it was a gimmick. He had found some

494
00:25:56,280 --> 00:26:00,360
Speaker 1: way of, yes, making a scene for them. The moon.

495
00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:05,359
Speaker 4: Yeah, that moon was out of control. It was distractingly big.

496
00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:06,080
Speaker 3: Yeah.

497
00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:10,000
Speaker 4: Also, what's odd is that they chose to shoot the

498
00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:13,520
Speaker 4: scene of Quinn throwing the gun off the same It

499
00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:15,440
Speaker 4: looks let's be honest, it was the same pier, but

500
00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:17,800
Speaker 4: even on the show. It looks identical. And one of

501
00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:20,320
Speaker 4: the shots up at her from the water, you can

502
00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:23,600
Speaker 4: actually see the moon, the moon in the sky behind her,

503
00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:29,320
Speaker 4: and it is a totally normal sized moon. Yes, we

504
00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:31,840
Speaker 4: paid extra for that big moon. That was CGI.

505
00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:38,120
Speaker 3: Why I don't know, and I don't know. Why take

506
00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:40,040
Speaker 3: the moon and just make it ten.

507
00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:45,520
Speaker 5: Percent bigger in CGI, don't make it a thousand percent bigger.

508
00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:50,480
Speaker 5: They're like, enhance, enhance, enhance, enhance, in hands like.

509
00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:53,359
Speaker 3: Stop, please, please stop.

510
00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:54,840
Speaker 1: No, we're in a Disney movie now.

511
00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:56,960
Speaker 3: It was so silly.

512
00:26:57,440 --> 00:26:59,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, I still grabbed all of it.

513
00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:01,840
Speaker 3: I loved I did tighten, I did do.

514
00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:04,440
Speaker 1: I think what worked. Yes, there was a moment you

515
00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:06,320
Speaker 1: roll your eyes, you're like, oh my gosh, okay, But

516
00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:08,440
Speaker 1: I think it was because there were so many other

517
00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:11,760
Speaker 1: things in the episode that felt heightened, that there was

518
00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:14,520
Speaker 1: a bit of a fairy tale element about the whole

519
00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:17,639
Speaker 1: episode that kind of worked for me. The all of

520
00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:21,960
Speaker 1: the slight absurdities. I just I just bought into it.

521
00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:25,080
Speaker 1: Maybe I'm just in a good, good mood this morning

522
00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:26,840
Speaker 1: and wanted to I don't know who.

523
00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:30,119
Speaker 4: Yeah, listen, it's not a deal breaker, but I'm with you,

524
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:33,280
Speaker 4: so the moment we opened on that shot, I was

525
00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:36,200
Speaker 4: like immediately pulled out of it, going, what is okay?

526
00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:38,680
Speaker 4: They've got to be on a stage, Like you guys

527
00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:40,600
Speaker 4: were so good that you didn't even need a moon

528
00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:43,680
Speaker 4: in the shot, Like we didn't need any extra romance

529
00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:46,119
Speaker 4: to like jiz it up. But it was, yeah, it

530
00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:50,520
Speaker 4: was just like it was so it was so aggressive aggressive.

531
00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:53,200
Speaker 1: That's exactly right, the aggressive moon.

532
00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:55,800
Speaker 5: I was just gonna say, maybe to your point joint,

533
00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:59,080
Speaker 5: maybe they were like, well, we've gone really extreme with

534
00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:02,520
Speaker 5: the murder plot, so maybe we should just drama.

535
00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:05,280
Speaker 3: Up a few of the other ones. Like I don't

536
00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:07,680
Speaker 3: know if the idea was let's.

537
00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:10,600
Speaker 1: Heighten because you don't remember that on the day, it

538
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:12,480
Speaker 1: wasn't like you guys were standing there and there was

539
00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:14,240
Speaker 1: this giant moon projected or something.

540
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:15,080
Speaker 3: No.

541
00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:17,960
Speaker 5: No, we were really out on the pier at night.

542
00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:20,400
Speaker 3: And the moon. Here's the thing. The moon was.

543
00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:24,240
Speaker 5: Out because there was reflection on the water, and it

544
00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:27,959
Speaker 5: just felt like somebody was like, let's take that normal

545
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:31,400
Speaker 5: little dot and put it was like they replaced this

546
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:35,639
Speaker 5: behind me with this like this was real, and then

547
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:36,920
Speaker 5: they put this in the.

548
00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:39,600
Speaker 1: Shop for reference. Friends. She's pointing to what is that

549
00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:42,280
Speaker 1: little a microphone like sticker. I don't know what that is.

550
00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:45,160
Speaker 5: This is like a little glass evil eye that I

551
00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:46,840
Speaker 5: got traveling years ago, and.

552
00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:49,200
Speaker 3: This is a globe of the world.

553
00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:53,120
Speaker 1: They're next to each other, so you can imagine the

554
00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:53,800
Speaker 1: sized difference.

555
00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:57,560
Speaker 4: But you know, maybe they got like indie film with

556
00:28:57,640 --> 00:28:59,840
Speaker 4: it and they were like, it's but it's just Brook

557
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:04,000
Speaker 4: is in such like a romantic fantasy bubble right now

558
00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:07,240
Speaker 4: that maybe it was just she was feeling this moment

559
00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:08,880
Speaker 4: and the moon felt that big too.

560
00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:11,959
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe the same thing for Quinn. The diner just

561
00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:14,200
Speaker 1: felt really creepy and all.

562
00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:16,920
Speaker 3: That Oh my gosh, she felt like she was in

563
00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:17,600
Speaker 3: a film noir.

564
00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:20,080
Speaker 4: This episode should have won an Emmy.

565
00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:23,000
Speaker 1: Okay, it's so.

566
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:26,200
Speaker 3: I like that.

567
00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:30,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, the Brook and Julian on the periods, their et moment.

568
00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:32,320
Speaker 3: The moon just takes up the whole thing.

569
00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:36,240
Speaker 4: I loved a line that had nothing to do with

570
00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:39,920
Speaker 4: the episode that made me laugh out loud was the

571
00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:44,680
Speaker 4: whole Jamie and Nathan Runner being study buddies. His whole

572
00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:47,720
Speaker 4: thing this season of just like coming into himself.

573
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:50,480
Speaker 1: I'm thrilled with this storyline for him, and yes, like.

574
00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:53,600
Speaker 4: Being a dad and loving being a dad has been

575
00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:55,600
Speaker 4: so great and so this whole the whole study buddy

576
00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:58,200
Speaker 4: thing with the two of them was awesome. But when

577
00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:00,640
Speaker 4: at the very start of it, he's like, let's let's

578
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:04,000
Speaker 4: play some Madden, and Nathan goes, I can't. I gotta

579
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:08,320
Speaker 4: study Wor's Chuck and he says, Chuck got grounded for

580
00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:12,200
Speaker 4: using his name in the Banana rama pro Fantasy, and

581
00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:14,480
Speaker 4: you see Nathan take a beat to sing the song

582
00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:15,360
Speaker 4: to himself and then.

583
00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:18,720
Speaker 3: Go it yeah, and didn't you do it too?

584
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:20,120
Speaker 4: I absolutely did it.

585
00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:20,960
Speaker 3: We all did it.

586
00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:24,480
Speaker 1: Oh yeah. Immediately my brain was like, I'm in the

587
00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:26,680
Speaker 1: writer's room and I'm imagining they're trying to come up

588
00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:28,880
Speaker 1: with a reason for Chuck to be grounded and somebody,

589
00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:31,560
Speaker 1: somebody's kid had just done that at home and said

590
00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:34,160
Speaker 1: it out loud. It's it's it's great. That was really fun.

591
00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:46,840
Speaker 6: Yeah.

592
00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:50,760
Speaker 5: I like that In the edit they exactly timed the

593
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:54,480
Speaker 5: reaction for Nathan correctly so that all of us got.

594
00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:55,040
Speaker 3: To go Chuck.

595
00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:59,840
Speaker 5: Like everybody did it together and it was great.

596
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:00,960
Speaker 1: That was fun.

597
00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:01,680
Speaker 6: Yeah.

598
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:04,520
Speaker 1: I love the storyline for Nathan. I mean wow, like

599
00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:10,120
Speaker 1: just finding his own way, figuring out taking these risks

600
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:13,560
Speaker 1: and to see that Nathan choose to take the hard class.

601
00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:15,280
Speaker 1: You know, there was a time when there was a

602
00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:17,240
Speaker 1: version of Nathan when he would have been like where

603
00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:20,120
Speaker 1: do I coast? And yeah, that's so great.

604
00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:25,160
Speaker 4: Also it's the appearance of Kellerman Peter Reigert. He's great,

605
00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:30,200
Speaker 4: He's awesome, And yeah, I believe he played a college

606
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:33,920
Speaker 4: professor in Animal House, so I know that there was

607
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:37,040
Speaker 4: excitement because they were like, like, he was so known

608
00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:39,280
Speaker 4: for that role that like, we got him as our

609
00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:43,080
Speaker 4: college professor. But he's great. Yeah, he's really good.

610
00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:43,320
Speaker 6: Man.

611
00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:46,960
Speaker 4: That first scene with him in Nathan in the Office

612
00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:47,560
Speaker 4: is awesome.

613
00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:50,959
Speaker 5: Yeah, and the fact that you can tell he's going

614
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:54,719
Speaker 5: to be a curmudgeon, but Nathan feels up to it

615
00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:57,120
Speaker 5: and they're kind of sizing each other up. It doesn't

616
00:31:57,240 --> 00:32:01,880
Speaker 5: lean into conflict too fast, but it gives you a

617
00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:03,320
Speaker 5: little taste.

618
00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:05,400
Speaker 3: And the whole.

619
00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:09,040
Speaker 5: Storyline for Nathan, you know, like you were saying, joy

620
00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:13,760
Speaker 5: is so good because we get to see him maturing

621
00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:17,680
Speaker 5: and trying to make all of these choices. And what's

622
00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:21,360
Speaker 5: cool about it is we get to watch it, but

623
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:24,200
Speaker 5: we also get to see him talk about it in

624
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:27,320
Speaker 5: ways that don't feel so much like exposition because they're

625
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:31,640
Speaker 5: lessons for Jamie, the story about how they lost to

626
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:33,959
Speaker 5: Kansas by three but they were supposed to lose by

627
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:37,640
Speaker 5: twenty seven, but they worked so hard and they practiced

628
00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:41,840
Speaker 5: so hard, and it taught him something about being determined.

629
00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:46,320
Speaker 5: It's such a good way to show growth in a

630
00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:50,040
Speaker 5: character without being like, and you know what I've learned

631
00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:51,200
Speaker 5: about my life?

632
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:55,360
Speaker 1: You know, yes, which we fall into that trap a lot,

633
00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:58,080
Speaker 1: which I think is inevitable, especially on a show with

634
00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:00,880
Speaker 1: this many seasons. It's easy to fall into the trap

635
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:03,120
Speaker 1: of like, just explain it in dialogue and have people

636
00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:05,600
Speaker 1: just say say the thing so everybody can catch up

637
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:07,840
Speaker 1: if they missed it. And I love it when they

638
00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:09,920
Speaker 1: just take the little extra time to do things like

639
00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:12,080
Speaker 1: that and make it feel natural. That's good.

640
00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:16,360
Speaker 4: It's effective. It's like Hayley writing to Lucas, you know.

641
00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:19,200
Speaker 4: It's a it's a great device for getting inside her

642
00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:22,560
Speaker 4: head without actually having her. Yeah, sit there and do

643
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:25,680
Speaker 4: the talking head exposition that everyone dreads doing.

644
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:32,640
Speaker 5: Totally, and the whole, the whole little container of this

645
00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:36,120
Speaker 5: evening of studying with a dad and his son is

646
00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:41,040
Speaker 5: just so sweet because you get to see how serious

647
00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:43,600
Speaker 5: it is. But the kid helps to make it lighthearted

648
00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:46,560
Speaker 5: in the games and the you know, the spelling drills

649
00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:49,840
Speaker 5: and the whole thing. It's just it's a really nice

650
00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:51,520
Speaker 5: peak into their world.

651
00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:55,040
Speaker 1: It's just so relatable, like this, this family dynamic, the

652
00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:58,280
Speaker 1: three of them. Even at the end Jamie with the

653
00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:06,560
Speaker 1: Tuto R and O and tutor you know, yes, yes,

654
00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:08,280
Speaker 1: so good. Did you learn nothing?

655
00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:10,960
Speaker 4: He has that line where he says to Nathan, Wow,

656
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:15,320
Speaker 4: first tudor girl, now tutor son. Yeah, that's nice. And

657
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:17,680
Speaker 4: there's a great exchange where I think it's like after

658
00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:20,480
Speaker 4: like the first time that they talk about the studying,

659
00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:24,400
Speaker 4: Nathan looks at him and goes, how'd you get so smart?

660
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:26,880
Speaker 4: And he turns around and says, I have my mom's

661
00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:31,200
Speaker 4: jeans too, And with that's skipping up beat, Nathan goes,

662
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:37,040
Speaker 4: you also got her height. Yes, it's like okay, dad,

663
00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:38,320
Speaker 4: apparently we touched.

664
00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:42,560
Speaker 1: A nerve and just so show the thing that our

665
00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:44,880
Speaker 1: show became famous for in the first place, which was

666
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:49,400
Speaker 1: the small town the again, this sort of magic of

667
00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:52,520
Speaker 1: ordinary days. How valuable that really is. Like we can

668
00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:56,440
Speaker 1: have a lot of drama, we can have big, exciting, bizarre, strange,

669
00:34:57,360 --> 00:35:01,040
Speaker 1: very dramatic things happen. But the core in the heart

670
00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:04,279
Speaker 1: of the show is just the ordinary and the things

671
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:06,240
Speaker 1: that you can relate to as a as a family,

672
00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:08,360
Speaker 1: as a member of a family in your real life,

673
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:12,400
Speaker 1: and just watching the little nuances here. I loved it.

674
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:13,560
Speaker 1: It warmed my heart.

675
00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:19,239
Speaker 4: The whole Red Bedroom trick stuff was great, and I

676
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:21,399
Speaker 4: loved how it all started. I mean, it was great

677
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:24,040
Speaker 4: that Mia was the one who got kid Cuddy. Yeah,

678
00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:28,120
Speaker 4: and then I loved Haley tricking Mia into wanting to

679
00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:31,719
Speaker 4: bartend by getting Alex to bartend. So good. It was

680
00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:34,640
Speaker 4: fun watching you play kind of the mastermind behind the

681
00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:35,759
Speaker 4: scenes for this whole night.

682
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:40,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was fun. I loved this. I like Haley

683
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:42,480
Speaker 1: being in this spot. I mean, Haley's always done a

684
00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:47,320
Speaker 1: lot of mother henning, like moving around between different characters

685
00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:49,640
Speaker 1: and different storylines and just like putting in little bits

686
00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:52,400
Speaker 1: and pieces of information here and there and helping everybody,

687
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:55,840
Speaker 1: you know, like maintain the status quo. I feel like

688
00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:59,920
Speaker 1: she took her role as mom, becoming a mother early

689
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:02,040
Speaker 1: just became a part of her identity, and so she

690
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:04,440
Speaker 1: was She's always been this, so it's really fun to

691
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:06,839
Speaker 1: see her do it at Red Bedroom too. That it's

692
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:09,880
Speaker 1: not just for the people that are the closest in

693
00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:12,440
Speaker 1: her life, but also the people that she's that she's

694
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:14,440
Speaker 1: working with in her job, and she wants to see

695
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:17,600
Speaker 1: young women in their careers taking off and really mentoring

696
00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:21,759
Speaker 1: them and like just managing Everything's she's stepping into this.

697
00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:25,440
Speaker 1: She's stepping into the Karen Row role really in a

698
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:28,360
Speaker 1: lot of ways, and that's been that's been fun to see.

699
00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:33,759
Speaker 4: I also loved how she didn't tell Aarin that she

700
00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:35,759
Speaker 4: was going to be opening for Kid Cuddy, which was

701
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:39,600
Speaker 4: real risky, right. That kind of surprised me because I imagine

702
00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:41,880
Speaker 4: as a musician, like, you know, you want to prepare yourself.

703
00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:44,360
Speaker 4: But I love the choice that they made that she

704
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:46,799
Speaker 4: didn't do the thing you thought she was going to do,

705
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:50,319
Speaker 4: which is, oh, I'm so nervous, I can't do this, yea.

706
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:52,719
Speaker 4: So she immediately went to a place of I'm going

707
00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:56,720
Speaker 4: to kill it. I was like, oh, and she did.

708
00:36:57,040 --> 00:37:00,359
Speaker 1: I mean, Laura is a bore so good out of

709
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:03,839
Speaker 1: the park. I mean, we had heard a little bit

710
00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:06,719
Speaker 1: from her before, but she really let loose and showed

711
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:09,640
Speaker 1: everybody what she's made of in this episode. It was great.

712
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:12,719
Speaker 1: I was hoping when Kid Cutie came up at the

713
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:15,759
Speaker 1: end that he was going to be like, come on

714
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:18,759
Speaker 1: tour with us, because again, there were so many things

715
00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:21,279
Speaker 1: that were a bit outrageous in the episode that I

716
00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:23,239
Speaker 1: just would have bought it. I mean, I know it's

717
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:26,600
Speaker 1: a little it's a little hokey and expected, but I

718
00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:28,440
Speaker 1: don't know. I was kind of I was hoping he

719
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:29,680
Speaker 1: was going to be like, you were so great, you

720
00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:31,359
Speaker 1: should come open for us on the road, and when

721
00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:33,560
Speaker 1: he didn't, he was just like, keep going, you're doing great.

722
00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:37,000
Speaker 4: I was like, oh, I thought he was going to

723
00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:40,160
Speaker 4: try to poach her. I thought he was going to say,

724
00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:42,840
Speaker 4: you're talented, you should join our label.

725
00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:46,920
Speaker 1: Ooh, that would have been juicy, but.

726
00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:49,560
Speaker 4: Said he was just a nice guy. Want wah.

727
00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:51,400
Speaker 1: Yeah.

728
00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:54,560
Speaker 5: One of the things that was weird to me again

729
00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:57,040
Speaker 5: just some of the choices, but maybe the whole point

730
00:37:57,080 --> 00:38:00,160
Speaker 5: was they needed to heighten everything in the episode.

731
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:04,560
Speaker 3: They crush that show. Laura is so good. He is

732
00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:05,120
Speaker 3: so good.

733
00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:08,759
Speaker 5: Also, baby kid Cuttie, I die like just the cutest

734
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:13,279
Speaker 5: human being. But I was like, why at that end

735
00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:16,960
Speaker 5: when he comes to talk to her, does she have

736
00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:20,000
Speaker 5: full backing in an empty bar? It's just her at

737
00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:24,200
Speaker 5: the piano and it's a fully produced song playing.

738
00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:27,160
Speaker 1: Oh that's right. Wait, I guess I thought she was

739
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:30,440
Speaker 1: just playing to a crowd and I was not, No.

740
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:33,160
Speaker 5: She's just playing in the back of the bar, but

741
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:35,440
Speaker 5: over a full backing track.

742
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:38,600
Speaker 3: And I was like, we know how good Laura is.

743
00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:40,480
Speaker 3: Let her just sing with the piano.

744
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:42,879
Speaker 1: I was getting set up for the podcast at this point.

745
00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:46,080
Speaker 1: It was like, you know, forty in the episode.

746
00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:48,600
Speaker 3: We were like, oh, I gotta plug in my computer.

747
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:51,319
Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah, but it was a really weird. It took

748
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:54,600
Speaker 5: me out of it because I was like, it's just

749
00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:57,520
Speaker 5: her by herself. Why never, never mind? And then I

750
00:38:57,560 --> 00:38:58,400
Speaker 5: was like, I gotta stop.

751
00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:00,440
Speaker 3: I was just I was then by then I was

752
00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:01,840
Speaker 3: noticing all the weird things.

753
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:03,479
Speaker 1: Yeah.

754
00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:06,719
Speaker 5: It felt like another enhance hands and Hands.

755
00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:08,879
Speaker 3: We didn't need it.

756
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:13,240
Speaker 1: I think the attempt was to make everything feel yeah,

757
00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:16,440
Speaker 1: like that fairy tale ish, kind of a little bit exaggerated.

758
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:20,359
Speaker 1: And it doesn't always work when you try and do

759
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:23,600
Speaker 1: something like that with episodic because you still have to

760
00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:25,879
Speaker 1: stick to the rules of the world, because the show

761
00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:27,919
Speaker 1: still has to a little familiar for the audience, because

762
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:29,640
Speaker 1: they can't show up and turn on the TV and

763
00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:32,120
Speaker 1: see all their favorite actors in the same setting, but

764
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:36,680
Speaker 1: the show looks completely different. So I think this was

765
00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:40,000
Speaker 1: an attempt to stay within the rules and the boundaries

766
00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:42,560
Speaker 1: but make it feel more like a fairy tale. But

767
00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:45,480
Speaker 1: just wasn't I just don't I understand why it felt

768
00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:49,520
Speaker 1: like it wasn't executed as efficiently as it could have been.

769
00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:54,280
Speaker 4: Did either of you perk up? When there's the exchange

770
00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:56,880
Speaker 4: at the bar between me and Alex where Alex walks

771
00:39:56,880 --> 00:39:59,160
Speaker 4: over to me and goes, I'm up to four hundred

772
00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:02,400
Speaker 4: and fifty reply an over her shoulder at Mia says,

773
00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:04,440
Speaker 4: I'm right on your heels, drama queen.

774
00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:08,680
Speaker 3: Yes, I was like, what I did the same thing.

775
00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:10,959
Speaker 4: Yeah?

776
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:14,239
Speaker 1: What about Alex and Chase and this thing at the

777
00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:16,000
Speaker 1: in the stock room?

778
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:16,879
Speaker 3: What do we say?

779
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:18,880
Speaker 4: They could only let them be friends for all of

780
00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:23,320
Speaker 4: twelve minutes before Alex had to undermine it all, before

781
00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:24,720
Speaker 4: she had to be duplicitous.

782
00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:28,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, as she continues to prove that this

783
00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:33,000
Speaker 1: is like, this feels like the baseline of her When

784
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:36,600
Speaker 1: I say character, I mean like a what's another word

785
00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:39,840
Speaker 1: for like your characters as a human, like your integrity.

786
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:41,000
Speaker 3: Baseline, Yeah, her core.

787
00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:43,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, it just feels like, no matter how many times

788
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:47,880
Speaker 1: she seems like she's really sweet and just trying to

789
00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:52,879
Speaker 1: be nice, I don't know. I just don't. I don't

790
00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:54,600
Speaker 1: trust her at this point. She's done it too many

791
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:56,919
Speaker 1: times completely.

792
00:40:57,160 --> 00:41:01,759
Speaker 4: She is wildly untrustworthy. That's it. Jana is so good

793
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:05,719
Speaker 4: in that scene. Yes that I did find myself going, oh,

794
00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:09,680
Speaker 4: she might actually just really like him. Oh no, like,

795
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:13,080
Speaker 4: because it does look like she's playing a game. It

796
00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:14,920
Speaker 4: looks like all of us is a game tour at

797
00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:17,000
Speaker 4: this point because we have seen so much of this

798
00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:20,640
Speaker 4: back and forth stuff. But she's so good and the

799
00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:24,399
Speaker 4: look she gives him is so sincere that it's it's

800
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:26,759
Speaker 4: so strong because then it makes it actually challenging for

801
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:29,960
Speaker 4: Chase as opposed to being it's being very easy to

802
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:31,440
Speaker 4: go get off, what go away?

803
00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:32,239
Speaker 1: Yeah?

804
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:35,000
Speaker 4: You know, so she did great with it, but same,

805
00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:39,280
Speaker 4: I was like, come on, yeah, she's all over the place.

806
00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:44,719
Speaker 5: But they're so fun together and the crowd trick is

807
00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:48,680
Speaker 5: the whole thing is just fun to watch and so

808
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:51,799
Speaker 5: as a choice, as dramatic as it is, it's great

809
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:53,759
Speaker 5: because it kind of stops you in your tracks in

810
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:56,719
Speaker 5: the audience and you're like, uh, and we know it's

811
00:41:56,760 --> 00:41:59,440
Speaker 5: coming because when she throws that bottle of tequila in

812
00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:01,120
Speaker 5: the trash, You're like.

813
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:06,600
Speaker 3: Oh no, yeah, oh no. And I loved it. I

814
00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:08,520
Speaker 3: was like, this is the kind of drama that I want.

815
00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:13,160
Speaker 4: Speaking of breaking off from the norm of our show,

816
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:18,520
Speaker 4: let's talk about that final scene. Katie is driving back

817
00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:21,520
Speaker 4: to Tree Hill listening to a perfect song, You're going

818
00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:23,680
Speaker 4: to get You Away, right. All of it is working

819
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:28,560
Speaker 4: for me until the last moment where she turns and

820
00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:31,840
Speaker 4: stops looking at the road and just looks down the camera,

821
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:36,200
Speaker 4: looks straight into the lens. What is that Why it's

822
00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:40,560
Speaker 4: already so ominous, nothing needs to happen, and then she

823
00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:43,920
Speaker 4: breaks the fourth wall, like well in the office. It

824
00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:46,799
Speaker 4: was just it was so strange. I didn't get it.

825
00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:49,120
Speaker 5: And by the way, she's not the only one who

826
00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:53,880
Speaker 5: does it. They also directed Kid Cuddy in the concert

827
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:57,000
Speaker 5: to take his sunglasses off and look straight into.

828
00:42:56,920 --> 00:43:00,600
Speaker 3: Lens, and I'm like, it's not amusing a video.

829
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:05,120
Speaker 5: Yes, he's playing himself, but he's also acting on our show.

830
00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:09,440
Speaker 5: He's not supposed to break the fourth wall. It's not

831
00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:13,040
Speaker 5: a music video shoot. So it's a choice that was

832
00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:17,319
Speaker 5: made by the director. Twice in the episode and it

833
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:19,520
Speaker 5: was so weird.

834
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:25,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's playing himself, but in the One Tree Hill universe, yes,

835
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:30,600
Speaker 4: there aren't cameras recording the other people. And it's not

836
00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:33,319
Speaker 4: like Julian had a camera behind the scenes or there

837
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:34,960
Speaker 4: was justification for you.

838
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:37,320
Speaker 5: Right, If Julian was shooting it and then he looked

839
00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:40,520
Speaker 5: into camera and it cut to a great close up,

840
00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:43,319
Speaker 5: it would have worked, but it pulled me out of

841
00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:47,360
Speaker 5: it then. And then the ominousness of Katie and the

842
00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:49,959
Speaker 5: storm and you know there's a giant storm brewing.

843
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:53,560
Speaker 1: Things are going to get crazy. The audience already knows. Yeah,

844
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:56,839
Speaker 1: we already know this is gonna's gonna get real very soon.

845
00:43:57,000 --> 00:44:00,239
Speaker 1: The second you see Katie and see her singing, which

846
00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:02,960
Speaker 1: also I think went on a little long, Like yep,

847
00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:05,719
Speaker 1: it was just a little too long. I didn't need

848
00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:08,000
Speaker 1: that much of her singing along with the song because

849
00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:10,719
Speaker 1: it gave me time then to start listening to her

850
00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:15,720
Speaker 1: singing rather than listening to like just catching the moment

851
00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:17,160
Speaker 1: of like this is creepy.

852
00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:19,200
Speaker 3: I was like, oh, it's creepy, and then I was like, oh,

853
00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:20,480
Speaker 3: she has a great voice. And then I was like,

854
00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:22,960
Speaker 3: wait a second, what's the her on the radio, saying

855
00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:24,480
Speaker 3: like it just it was it was too long.

856
00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:26,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's too much. You can't give the audience that

857
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:28,560
Speaker 1: much time to start thinking about what's happening. Otherwise they

858
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:30,960
Speaker 1: start doing exactly what we're doing and picking it apart.

859
00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:35,600
Speaker 4: And Amanda's great, like you didn't need the rain and

860
00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:38,520
Speaker 4: you didn't need the song. But it's fine to have them,

861
00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:40,799
Speaker 4: but it's sort of like you have her giving a

862
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:43,759
Speaker 4: great performance. I'm already concerned. And then we see driving

863
00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:46,520
Speaker 4: past the Tree Hill sign that's really all you need? Yeah,

864
00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:51,760
Speaker 4: the rain, cool mood, the song heavy handed but still works. Yeah,

865
00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:55,200
Speaker 4: extra fifteen seconds, followed by her looking down the camera

866
00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:56,160
Speaker 4: too much.

867
00:44:56,800 --> 00:44:59,520
Speaker 1: Didn't need it, We didn't need it. You just didn't

868
00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:02,640
Speaker 1: need it. But I think that what I'm really excited

869
00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:07,440
Speaker 1: about is the fact that she's back and that, in fact,

870
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:10,799
Speaker 1: it justified so much of what we just watched with

871
00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:16,799
Speaker 1: Paul and Chantelle, because all of Quinn's fears that it

872
00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:19,719
Speaker 1: feels so ridiculous, and it's like Katie's gone, Okay, you

873
00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:22,200
Speaker 1: found her, but she's not pursuing you. There's just you know,

874
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:24,120
Speaker 1: can you try and let it go and live your life.

875
00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:29,040
Speaker 1: It really gave justification to this whole thing that we

876
00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:35,960
Speaker 1: have been maybe questioning Quinn's motive or sanity is not

877
00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:38,040
Speaker 1: the right word, but we've been we've been questioning what

878
00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:40,799
Speaker 1: she's choosing to do. And now I'm like, yeah, there's

879
00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:42,320
Speaker 1: no question you need to be prepared.

880
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:43,680
Speaker 3: Except she threw away the gun.

881
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:44,040
Speaker 1: Oho.

882
00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:48,400
Speaker 5: Nos, Yeah, you know, yeah, but that's just it, right.

883
00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:53,440
Speaker 5: The worry and the fear and the sort of trauma

884
00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:57,719
Speaker 5: she's experiencing is so spot on.

885
00:45:58,160 --> 00:45:58,399
Speaker 1: Yeah.

886
00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:01,960
Speaker 5: I wish they'd just let it be that and didn't

887
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:05,000
Speaker 5: try to make it feel like a film noir. Yeah,

888
00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:10,040
Speaker 5: so that when you see Katie you're like, oh my god. Yeah,

889
00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:14,360
Speaker 5: based on how dramatically they shot all of that stuff

890
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:18,319
Speaker 5: for her and Dan's storyline, I'm not surprised at all

891
00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:21,920
Speaker 5: that Katie's back, not even a little like surprise me.

892
00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:26,799
Speaker 4: The throwing away of the gun, that sequence, the way

893
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:29,239
Speaker 4: they wrapped up was was great though, because I know,

894
00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:31,480
Speaker 4: as an audience member, I was rooting for her to

895
00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:33,520
Speaker 4: get rid of the gun. I was like, this has

896
00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:35,799
Speaker 4: never been the answer. And when you finally see her

897
00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:39,439
Speaker 4: getting rid of the gun, you're like, oh, thank god, okay, good. Yeah,

898
00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:42,680
Speaker 4: And then they immediately follow it with danger driving into

899
00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:46,520
Speaker 4: town and you're like, yeah, Okay, we shouldn't have done that.

900
00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:47,919
Speaker 4: I was rooting for the wrong thing.

901
00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:53,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, lots lots in this episode. I'm looking for gonna

902
00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:56,920
Speaker 1: get crazy now we know, Yeah, it's gonna get right. Yeah, weird?

903
00:46:58,120 --> 00:47:00,520
Speaker 1: Anything else about this episode before we do questions?

904
00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:04,840
Speaker 4: Fan questions outside animals can't fart inside?

905
00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:07,959
Speaker 3: Yes, honorable mention for sure.

906
00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:22,279
Speaker 4: Listener question, what do we got?

907
00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:24,759
Speaker 1: Katie says, I wish we could have seen Haley reading

908
00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:26,839
Speaker 1: a letter from Lucas, just to hear what was going

909
00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:29,160
Speaker 1: on in their lives. We don't hear from Lucas until

910
00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:32,120
Speaker 1: the last season. What would y'all imagine Lucas, Peyton, and

911
00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:35,560
Speaker 1: Sawyer are up to. I don't even remember where they moved.

912
00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:36,200
Speaker 1: Where did they go?

913
00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:39,400
Speaker 3: I don't know they left Tree Hill.

914
00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:41,280
Speaker 1: And you know, writing off in the sunset in the comet,

915
00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:43,080
Speaker 1: but I don't know why they left or where they moved.

916
00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:45,360
Speaker 1: Did Lucas get a because he can write from anywhere?

917
00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:48,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, they left in a convertible, So I'm going to

918
00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:51,240
Speaker 4: guess maybe the West coast where it's a bit warmer

919
00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:51,960
Speaker 4: and less rainy.

920
00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:54,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, feels like that's Yeah, true.

921
00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:59,279
Speaker 5: Yeah, I feel like I remember a West Coast thing

922
00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:02,560
Speaker 5: or that, you know, they wanted to travel, and while

923
00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:05,799
Speaker 5: he wrote his next novel, this is the problem. They

924
00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:10,040
Speaker 5: didn't give us enough to make where.

925
00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:11,600
Speaker 3: Our friends went make sense.

926
00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:15,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I have no idea. Who knows, Like did

927
00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:18,520
Speaker 1: they start a new life in Maine or in Napa

928
00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:23,280
Speaker 1: or are they renting a trailer just driving around the country?

929
00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:25,319
Speaker 1: Did they move? Yeah's through? Where are they?

930
00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:29,239
Speaker 5: It's like, you know, and I know we brought this

931
00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:32,520
Speaker 5: up obviously with the powers that be at the time,

932
00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:36,440
Speaker 5: and I feel like it was more a personal beef

933
00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:39,360
Speaker 5: than anything that made sense.

934
00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:40,759
Speaker 3: For our characters, which is unfortunate.

935
00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:42,799
Speaker 5: But I used to ask and be like, why can't

936
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:45,520
Speaker 5: Brook be getting text messages from Peyton? Why can't you

937
00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:48,800
Speaker 5: see them texting? Like why am I not getting photo

938
00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:50,279
Speaker 5: updates of this baby?

939
00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:51,720
Speaker 3: It feels really weird.

940
00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:54,320
Speaker 5: And there was always a you know, well, it's not important,

941
00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:56,200
Speaker 5: it's not in the world, and it's like, well, it

942
00:48:56,239 --> 00:48:57,600
Speaker 5: feels pretty freaking important.

943
00:48:57,719 --> 00:49:00,200
Speaker 1: I mean to Brook and Haley built around it, so

944
00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:01,680
Speaker 1: it's important.

945
00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:05,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, It's like for us, you know, those are our

946
00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:09,960
Speaker 5: those are our people, Like Peyton's my person Lucas is

947
00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:10,720
Speaker 5: Haley's person.

948
00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:11,680
Speaker 3: It's like so weird.

949
00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:15,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, Karen and Karen, like everybody, they just they just

950
00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:17,120
Speaker 1: faded off into the distance.

951
00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:18,160
Speaker 3: Yeah.

952
00:49:18,239 --> 00:49:19,919
Speaker 1: I do wish they had kept that up in some

953
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:24,680
Speaker 1: more clear way. I don't think I've been hard. No,

954
00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:27,239
Speaker 1: I don't either. I think it was some sort of

955
00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:30,080
Speaker 1: personal I think it was the personal beef behind the

956
00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:35,680
Speaker 1: scenes that they just like not they but he, our creator,

957
00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:38,480
Speaker 1: just didn't want to have He was hoping the audience

958
00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:39,800
Speaker 1: would just forget about them.

959
00:49:40,080 --> 00:49:44,840
Speaker 5: Which seems so stupid because it's a choice rooted in

960
00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:51,880
Speaker 5: ego and it's like, dude, you wrote those characters. Yeah,

961
00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:55,319
Speaker 5: so you knew they were great, So why are we

962
00:49:55,360 --> 00:49:57,560
Speaker 5: suddenly pretending they're not.

963
00:49:58,120 --> 00:50:00,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like trying to prove, like the you can

964
00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:03,719
Speaker 1: go on without them, and it did, but like, it

965
00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:05,239
Speaker 1: could have made so much more sense. It would have

966
00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:08,400
Speaker 1: been so much more nice to just have their presence

967
00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:09,640
Speaker 1: still around in some way.

968
00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:15,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, it would have been a better continuation of that world,

969
00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:20,239
Speaker 5: particularly because we were I mean, what a crazy thing

970
00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:22,880
Speaker 5: to say, but in the middle of our show is

971
00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:26,360
Speaker 5: when people got iPhones. Yeah, it became really easy to

972
00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:30,440
Speaker 5: text photos and videos and to have these long updates

973
00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:33,000
Speaker 5: with your friends that you couldn't have before when you

974
00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:35,840
Speaker 5: were texting in T nine on a razor being like

975
00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:36,760
Speaker 5: one two.

976
00:50:36,840 --> 00:50:40,880
Speaker 3: Three, there's a t you know, and like it.

977
00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:44,360
Speaker 5: It would have it would have fit the time, and

978
00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:47,640
Speaker 5: it would have fit our world and our people and anyway,

979
00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:49,759
Speaker 5: you're right, Katie, we agree it would have been nice.

980
00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:54,200
Speaker 1: We wish to we wish. Should we just been a wheel?

981
00:50:55,239 --> 00:50:59,200
Speaker 1: Honorable mention, honorable mention. Yes, only animals can't part outside

982
00:50:59,239 --> 00:51:00,120
Speaker 1: or something like that.

983
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:03,759
Speaker 5: Outside, animals camp fart inside there it is, oh.

984
00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:06,160
Speaker 4: Joy immediately most likely to get.

985
00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:13,440
Speaker 1: House yep, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's definitely happened to me.

986
00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:14,719
Speaker 4: Ye.

987
00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:15,120
Speaker 3: Sure.

988
00:51:18,239 --> 00:51:20,040
Speaker 1: Have you guys never gotten locked out of your house?

989
00:51:20,080 --> 00:51:21,120
Speaker 1: I had to call a locksmith.

990
00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:21,960
Speaker 4: I have.

991
00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:29,240
Speaker 5: I got locked out of my house on location once filming, uh,

992
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:32,000
Speaker 5: and it was it was. It was not great, and

993
00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:33,960
Speaker 5: it was also really stressful because it was in the

994
00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:37,920
Speaker 5: middle of winter in Toronto and the place I was

995
00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:43,320
Speaker 5: renting had like a smart lock, and I'd never had one,

996
00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:47,359
Speaker 5: and ever since I'd moved into the house, like when

997
00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:50,160
Speaker 5: I would undo the lock, it would flash yellow at me,

998
00:51:50,239 --> 00:51:52,680
Speaker 5: and I just thought that was the way they I

999
00:51:52,680 --> 00:51:55,080
Speaker 5: don't know, that's how it unlocks, and it meant the

1000
00:51:55,160 --> 00:51:59,959
Speaker 5: battery was dying. And so for I don't know, six weeks,

1001
00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:02,600
Speaker 5: I just would like walk into this rental house.

1002
00:52:03,160 --> 00:52:06,719
Speaker 3: And one night at like twelve.

1003
00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:08,880
Speaker 5: Thirty I guess technically twelve thirty in the morning, I

1004
00:52:08,920 --> 00:52:11,640
Speaker 5: got home and it was February and it was.

1005
00:52:11,640 --> 00:52:14,680
Speaker 3: Like negative twenty degrees and.

1006
00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:17,359
Speaker 5: I clicked the thing and it starts flashing red and

1007
00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:18,360
Speaker 5: I everything.

1008
00:52:18,440 --> 00:52:20,280
Speaker 3: It's like all the energy left my body.

1009
00:52:20,280 --> 00:52:22,719
Speaker 4: And I was like, oh, no, tell me, transpo van

1010
00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:23,759
Speaker 4: hadn't left you yet.

1011
00:52:24,719 --> 00:52:26,799
Speaker 5: I sure had. I was like, get out of here.

1012
00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:30,080
Speaker 5: I got a like, you know, I was unloading shit

1013
00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:32,960
Speaker 5: and dealing with the snow on the porch. So I

1014
00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:35,879
Speaker 5: had to call the sweet driver and be like, could

1015
00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:37,160
Speaker 5: could you come.

1016
00:52:37,040 --> 00:52:37,800
Speaker 3: Around the block?

1017
00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:40,000
Speaker 5: I think I have a little, a wee bit of

1018
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:43,480
Speaker 5: an emergency. And I literally had to. I had to

1019
00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:45,600
Speaker 5: figure out how to break into my own house with

1020
00:52:45,800 --> 00:52:48,680
Speaker 5: my awesome transpo driver because there was not we couldn't

1021
00:52:48,680 --> 00:52:50,759
Speaker 5: get a single locksmith company to answer the phone because

1022
00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:51,760
Speaker 5: it was almost one in the morning.

1023
00:52:52,680 --> 00:52:53,280
Speaker 3: Is it cheaper?

1024
00:52:53,640 --> 00:52:55,880
Speaker 1: Locksmiths are not cheap. Is it cheaper to bay in

1025
00:52:55,960 --> 00:52:58,600
Speaker 1: her place? A window or call locksmith.

1026
00:52:59,320 --> 00:53:04,279
Speaker 4: It's easy to call locksmith. I don't know the relative pricing. Well, yes,

1027
00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:06,239
Speaker 4: because think about it, to replace a window, you have

1028
00:53:06,280 --> 00:53:08,880
Speaker 4: to call someone, they have to come out and do it,

1029
00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:09,600
Speaker 4: or at least.

1030
00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:11,600
Speaker 3: A lot to measure the glass, and your entire.

1031
00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:14,400
Speaker 4: Thing is contained within you know, yeah, thirty minutes of

1032
00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:15,080
Speaker 4: them being there.

1033
00:53:15,480 --> 00:53:17,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1034
00:53:17,840 --> 00:53:21,280
Speaker 5: It turned into like quite a comedic evening and involved

1035
00:53:21,360 --> 00:53:24,080
Speaker 5: scaling a balcony and we had a great time at

1036
00:53:24,080 --> 00:53:25,040
Speaker 5: the end of it, and I was like, this is

1037
00:53:25,040 --> 00:53:25,640
Speaker 5: going to be a story.

1038
00:53:25,640 --> 00:53:26,760
Speaker 3: I'm always going to remember.

1039
00:53:27,080 --> 00:53:28,680
Speaker 1: Why didn't we ever do that on the show? That

1040
00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:31,319
Speaker 1: would have been a fun episode, like just something that

1041
00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:33,880
Speaker 1: was in the house that somebody had to get for

1042
00:53:34,080 --> 00:53:36,080
Speaker 1: other things in the episode to rely on. And the

1043
00:53:36,160 --> 00:53:39,719
Speaker 1: whole episode for that character storyline is just break trying

1044
00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:41,439
Speaker 1: to figure out different ways to break into the house.

1045
00:53:42,040 --> 00:53:44,680
Speaker 4: Right. You know how janitors have those little devices that

1046
00:53:44,680 --> 00:53:47,279
Speaker 4: they clip onto their belt or anyone with lots of

1047
00:53:47,360 --> 00:53:49,279
Speaker 4: keys where it's like like a tether in it, like

1048
00:53:49,360 --> 00:53:51,319
Speaker 4: your ass back and all the keys. I feel like, joy,

1049
00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:53,239
Speaker 4: we should get you like three of those, like one

1050
00:53:53,239 --> 00:53:56,279
Speaker 4: for your iPhone one for your air pods. One for

1051
00:53:56,320 --> 00:53:59,279
Speaker 4: your keys. You just have this like utility belt as

1052
00:53:59,320 --> 00:54:01,560
Speaker 4: you walk around in public, so that you can never

1053
00:54:01,600 --> 00:54:02,240
Speaker 4: lose anything.

1054
00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:06,239
Speaker 1: I think that's that's something that I should invest in. Yeah,

1055
00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:07,040
Speaker 1: it's not a biology.

1056
00:54:07,200 --> 00:54:08,759
Speaker 4: Guys. We're taking this to shark Tank.

1057
00:54:09,160 --> 00:54:09,799
Speaker 3: We're doing it.

1058
00:54:10,239 --> 00:54:13,280
Speaker 1: We're doing it knowing me so well. Rob, that's really sweet.

1059
00:54:13,760 --> 00:54:14,640
Speaker 4: You're perfect. Joy.

1060
00:54:14,680 --> 00:54:19,480
Speaker 5: Don't change, don't ever change, never, never ever forget to

1061
00:54:19,600 --> 00:54:20,320
Speaker 5: lose your Keith.

1062
00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:22,200
Speaker 1: Okay, what are we doing next week?

1063
00:54:22,280 --> 00:54:24,440
Speaker 3: All right, friends, I can't believe it.

1064
00:54:24,520 --> 00:54:28,880
Speaker 5: Next week is season eight, episode eleven, Darkness on the

1065
00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:29,800
Speaker 5: Edge of Town.

1066
00:54:30,040 --> 00:54:32,000
Speaker 4: Oh boy, I wonder if that has anything to do

1067
00:54:32,040 --> 00:54:32,680
Speaker 4: with Katie.

1068
00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:37,600
Speaker 1: I wonder, I wonder direct Thanks for joining us everyone,

1069
00:54:37,719 --> 00:54:42,279
Speaker 1: This was a thanks friends, fun one. Good to see you. Bye. Hey,

1070
00:54:42,320 --> 00:54:43,200
Speaker 1: thanks for listening.

1071
00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:45,520
Speaker 5: Don't forget to leave us a review. You can also

1072
00:54:45,600 --> 00:54:48,680
Speaker 5: follow us on Instagram at drama Queen's ot.

1073
00:54:49,239 --> 00:54:53,320
Speaker 1: Or email us at Drama Queens at iHeartRadio dot com.

1074
00:54:53,640 --> 00:54:54,680
Speaker 3: See you next time.

1075
00:54:55,880 --> 00:54:57,279
Speaker 4: We all about that.

1076
00:54:57,320 --> 00:54:59,880
Speaker 2: High school drama girl, drama girl, all about that.

1077
00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:03,120
Speaker 3: High school queens. We'll take you for a ride, and

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1079
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Speaker 3: my girl, rough girl fashion with your tough.

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00:55:09,920 --> 00:55:11,160
Speaker 1: Girl, you could sit with us.

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Speaker 2: Girl drama, Queens, Drama, Quease, Drama, queens Drama, Drama, Queens

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