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Speaker 1: I'm thrown off nout. John Chris.

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Speaker 2: You know this guy, John christ the comedian, he's like

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Speaker 2: a Christian comedian.

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Speaker 1: Well you've before him.

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Speaker 2: He shows up a lot of different places, and he's

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Speaker 2: been a little not Christian at times too. He had

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Speaker 2: a bit of them, a bit of them. And this

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Speaker 2: is a few years ago. You know, people falter, you

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Speaker 2: know what I mean. May have been some ladies and

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Speaker 2: some substances, supposedly, allegedly, whatever they seem to have, they

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Speaker 2: seem to have solved the tipping problem in the world.

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Speaker 1: That's a very.

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Speaker 2: Popular, very popular topic on the show. I love to

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Speaker 2: talk about tipping. But but they were addressing a tweet

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Speaker 2: or an x or whatever. Is that what we're supposed

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Speaker 2: to call it?

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Speaker 1: No an x uh?

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Speaker 2: And it says new rule if I order standing up,

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Speaker 2: I'm not tipping. This is what they had to say

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Speaker 2: about it. Whod on a second might have to watch

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Speaker 2: an ad? Is he gonna make me watch it? I

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Speaker 2: don't want to watch an ad. I'm not doing this.

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Speaker 2: Well that's that's that was essentially the gist of it. Here,

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Speaker 2: you're standing up, I'm not tipping?

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Speaker 3: Ye?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, this will save America.

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Speaker 4: People are standing there because that guy's standing there and

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Speaker 4: you're not coming out here.

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Speaker 1: We're both on our feet, bro, we're both standing up here.

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Speaker 5: We both need it, We're both we're both doing the

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Speaker 5: same work right now.

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Speaker 1: Four and a half hours. We both are going to

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Speaker 1: go and break. If I'm tipping you, then you're tipping

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Speaker 1: me too.

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Speaker 2: I don't know about that, But the point is, these

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Speaker 2: guys think they got it nailed. If you're standing, if

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Speaker 2: you order standing up, you don't have to tip. Now

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Speaker 2: Is that going to be the Is that the new line?

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Speaker 2: Is that where we draw the line on tipping? Because

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Speaker 2: I mean everywhere you go, everywhere you go there is

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Speaker 2: there is no place now that doesn't except for maybe McDonald's.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't ask for a tip, especially on little automated system.

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Speaker 1: Flip it over. It's no service nowhere.

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Speaker 2: Okay, where do you decide, like, how are we going

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Speaker 2: to decide as a society when where to draw the line?

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Speaker 2: Because I feel like it you used to be when

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Speaker 2: you went to a restaurant and somebody served you, you tipped.

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Speaker 2: When you went to a bar and somebody served you,

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Speaker 2: you tipped. If you went to a hotel and the

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Speaker 2: guy carried your bags, for you. You tipped him, Vallet Parker,

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Speaker 2: you tipped him all service related. They were doing something

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Speaker 2: for you that you weren't going to do for yourself,

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Speaker 2: that you could have done for yourself, and you're tipping now.

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Speaker 1: The same could be true.

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Speaker 2: I suppose when you go to a fest food restaurant

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Speaker 2: or a place where you order standing up, they're going

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Speaker 2: to make the sandwich for you, they're going to make

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Speaker 2: the hamburger or whatever, and you're.

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Speaker 1: Not but you're also paying for that service.

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Speaker 2: A lot of this other stuff was either you got

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Speaker 2: exceptional service so you paid extra, or the service was

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Speaker 2: free to you, so you tipped for it.

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Speaker 1: So is this where we're drawing the line.

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Speaker 2: But see it doesn't work because now they're asking for

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Speaker 2: tips through the drive through and I'm technically sitting down,

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Speaker 2: But why am I tipping you to give me my

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Speaker 2: drink through the drive through?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 6: Aside from all those services that you just listened, because

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Speaker 6: I always tip on those, I have to check in

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Speaker 6: with myself and my spirit that specific day and see

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Speaker 6: if I.

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Speaker 5: Feel like tipping.

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Speaker 6: It can't be black or white for my brain, it

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Speaker 6: hurts too much, So like I just check in, say

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Speaker 6: how am I feeling Am I feeling giving? And if

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Speaker 6: it's either a yes or no, the answer is always no.

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Speaker 1: Well are you not for me?

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Speaker 5: Sometimes I like, yeah, at.

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Speaker 7: That's two places at at like sporting events. I'm not

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Speaker 7: I'm not tipping you to give me a hot dog.

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Speaker 7: You know what I'm saying, Like it's it's it's no

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Speaker 7: for me. If I'm standing, I'm I'm with this guy.

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Speaker 7: If I'm standing, I'm not tipping.

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Speaker 1: But if you're sitting in the drive through and I'm.

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Speaker 5: Tipping, no, I'll stand in the drive I'll stand outside

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Speaker 5: my car.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so you will stand up now if that's the

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Speaker 2: new rule, they need to pull up to the drive

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Speaker 2: rut your car, which do not encourage.

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Speaker 1: They don't want you to do that.

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Speaker 6: If someone so exceptionally like wonderful or nice, you don't

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Speaker 6: ever feel compelled to go. Like that woman just turned

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Speaker 6: my day around. It's like I don't know, Like it

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Speaker 6: doesn't have to be black or white. Yeah, I guess,

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Speaker 6: but like I mean exceptional servant. But like that's I mean,

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Speaker 6: it's kind of your job. You know what I'm saying,

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Speaker 6: You should have exceptional service for everything.

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Speaker 2: Well, we can take a quick survey on this eight five, five, five,

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Speaker 2: nine one one three five Is that going to be

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Speaker 2: the new rule if I order standing up? Because here's

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Speaker 2: the thing, it's not even like, of course you have

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Speaker 2: you always have the option to give somebody an extra

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Speaker 2: feeling generous and if the person was very nice to

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Speaker 2: you or did a great job or whatever, then you

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Speaker 2: should you should always do that. But my question is

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Speaker 2: is it now just becoming the expectation that you're gonna

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Speaker 2: do it every time?

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Speaker 3: Is it?

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's That's where I'm at with this is

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Speaker 2: is what are we like programming ourselves and what is

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Speaker 2: the hospitality industry now expect from us? Because if I

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Speaker 2: almost feel like we should take some like if I

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Speaker 2: owned a restaurant and and you you ordered standing up,

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Speaker 2: I feel like I might even say, figure out another

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Speaker 2: way to incentivize my employees and take that off the

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Speaker 2: little computer thing entirely because it kind it's kind of

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Speaker 2: annoying because they they look at you.

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying day, but like sometimes they look at you.

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Speaker 1: It's awkward for everybody.

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Speaker 2: It's awkward for the cashier, it's awkward for me when

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Speaker 2: they're like, well, it's going to ask you a question,

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Speaker 2: and it's like I look at you, I look down

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Speaker 2: the question is if I'm going to give you extra

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Speaker 2: think these people necessarily because it's not like they get

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Speaker 3: I know.

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Speaker 5: But is that on the company or the worker?

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Speaker 6: You know what I mean?

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Speaker 5: Because made that decision.

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Speaker 2: If Yeah, if I own the business, I might say

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Speaker 2: stand up stuff, I'm taking that option away so that

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Speaker 2: we don't have to and the employees might get mad.

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Speaker 2: But it's like, then I need to figure out another

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Speaker 2: way to say that I'm going to reward you for

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Speaker 2: being excellent in this other way, you.

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Speaker 1: Know, I just I don't.

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Speaker 8: I also hate now, like when they spin that thing

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Speaker 8: around at you, right yeah, but they it's like what

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Speaker 8: percent tip do you want?

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Speaker 5: Like five, ten, fifteen, there's no like five, but whatever,

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Speaker 8: Numbers out there, but like there's it's hard to find

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Speaker 8: the cancel button or like you have to ask them like.

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Speaker 5: Where's the where's the so you're like tip the buttons

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Speaker 5: right sometime? Now they're hiding it.

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Speaker 1: What Yeah, I could.

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Speaker 5: Trying to like guilt you. So you have to ask

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Speaker 5: that person, so you feel like a jerk, Like, but it's.

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Speaker 2: Not on them.

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Speaker 5: They didn't make that decision. So why would we punish

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Speaker 5: them for asking for a tip? You know, no, I'm

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Speaker 5: saying they're punished.

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Speaker 8: They make you feel like you're whatever, Like you have

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Speaker 8: to ask the employee, now, where's the other option here?

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Speaker 5: So you look like you're not gonna so they know

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Speaker 5: you're not gonna tip.

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Every time we talk about tipping, you know, we get

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Speaker 2: this stuff, Oh Fred, you're you know, you have this job,

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Speaker 2: you're entitled or whatever.

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Speaker 1: It's not that.

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Speaker 2: It's just that I feel like the purpose of tipping

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Speaker 2: was to incentivize a person to work harder, to get more, right,

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Speaker 2: I mean, wasn't that And again like and so that way,

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Speaker 2: if I am a really really excellent intensive server, then

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Speaker 2: I stand to make more money. Now if people are

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Speaker 2: taking advantage of that and they're not tipping like they should.

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Speaker 2: Now that's a problem. That's that's not good. That's on

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Speaker 2: you as the consumer. But like if I just do

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Speaker 2: an average job but expect an above average tip, that

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Speaker 2: defeats the purpose. That's not the point, right, Like as

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Speaker 2: you should give me extra money because it's not a

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Speaker 2: great job or I don't you know whatever, it's hard work.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but I would ask you then to flip it.

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Speaker 2: And when you're sitting down, if someone did an average,

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Speaker 2: subpar job, do you in your mind do you still

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Speaker 2: want to give them twenty percent? Or is that just

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Speaker 2: the cost of doing business? If I go to a

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Speaker 2: sit down restaurant, I'm just paying twenty percent. Now if

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Speaker 2: I go order anything and anybody makes it, I just

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Speaker 1: That's just what it is.

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Speaker 2: Now I have to supplement. I have to just add

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Speaker 2: two or three bucks to everything I order. Is that

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Speaker 2: is that just where we're at? Cause again, like let's

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Speaker 2: say you do an amazing like there's a couple of

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Speaker 2: like they remember my drink, and it's just like they

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Speaker 2: really work at it and they get a much bigger

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Speaker 1: I mean, I.

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Speaker 2: If you make me look good, I'll tip you a lot.

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Speaker 2: If I'm on a date or something, you make me

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Speaker 2: look good, you know what I mean. But like, at

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Speaker 2: the same time, if I go there and they don't care,

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Speaker 2: then I can't. I'm not gonna tip them the same way,

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Speaker 2: you know what I mean. And if you know you're

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Speaker 2: gonna get the same tip no matter what you do,

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Speaker 2: then you maybe just do an average job. I don't know,

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Speaker 2: maybe just do an average job. Everyone's quiet because they

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Speaker 2: don't want to smoke. You don't want to smoke.

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Speaker 5: No, blame your bosses, Blame your corporation, Blame the corporation.

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Speaker 8: It's a corporation that's putting these tips out there, that's

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Speaker 8: not paying you enough, so they make it on the

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Speaker 8: consumer to pay you.

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Speaker 5: And it's not my problem.

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Speaker 1: Well and then but then it's it's I will admit this.

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Speaker 2: Then if they go make the food more expensive, then

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Speaker 2: the customers complain, and so it's it's it's all a

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Speaker 2: shell game, right. They want you to help kind of

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Speaker 2: supplement where they're not paying as much because they don't

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Speaker 1: But does THEE doesn't need like this fifty way?

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Speaker 2: You say that, but four yachts could break. And if

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Speaker 1: Good morning?

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Speaker 9: Hi? I wanted to say. You know, years ago, I

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Speaker 9: And that's why we we we needed tips and in

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Speaker 10: But for fast food people, they get full time, right,

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Speaker 10: you know, most of the people, they get full time.

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Speaker 9: Salaries, and if you're supposed to they are supposed to

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Speaker 1: Well, and we are paying for it.

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Speaker 2: By the way, Like I'm not picking on McDonald's, but

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Speaker 2: a drink used to be a dollar, now it's three

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Speaker 5: And that's not a medium, by the way, No, they're

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Speaker 2: That's a small Yeah, I'm just saying I'm just saying so,

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Speaker 2: And that's that's a bigger problem if no one's coming

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Speaker 2: to your business. And again you could sit here and say, well, Fred,

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Speaker 2: if it's if the twenty percent is preventing people from

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Speaker 2: going to McDonald's, okay, But I mean, if I'm paying

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Speaker 2: I got it, now it's twelve, and it's a lie.

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Speaker 1: The adds up it really does.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, book your server.

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Speaker 10: When you're not getting full time salary, what's the point

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Speaker 10: might as well then just go and apply at McDonald's,

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Speaker 1: Yeah maybe, So thank you, Cindy. You have a great day.

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Speaker 8: Okay you too.

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Speaker 2: Oh well, you know we love tipping around here for

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Speaker 2: people that don't make tips, we love tipping.

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Speaker 1: Hey Christina, Hi, how are you?

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Speaker 3: Hey?

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Speaker 1: Good morning.

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Speaker 2: So the the idea was presented that if you ordered

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Speaker 11: I find it very tough because half the time you

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Speaker 11: because it's incorrect. So I find it really difficult to

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Speaker 1: Like, yeah, it's true, Yeah, this is really difficult.

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Speaker 11: Like when you're in a sit down restaurant, you eat

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Speaker 11: you walk into like McDonald's, a Chick fil a, subway whatever, right,

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Speaker 11: you don't know until you've actually got home half the time,

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Speaker 11: why did I give them eighteen.

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Speaker 1: Percent for cool right the wrong order? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well Christina, thank yeah, No, it's a good point.

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Speaker 2: Thank you have a good day.

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Speaker 11: Do you have a great day.

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Speaker 1: Think I've noticed that.

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Speaker 2: Too about the delivery services, because you guys know I

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Speaker 2: I think they're going to name something out or give

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Speaker 2: But I've noticed, you know, you tip up front right

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Speaker 2: but I already tipped them, so and I'm not going

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Speaker 1: But I'm getting varied levels of service.

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Speaker 2: So now I'm like, well, I don't know, Maybe I

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Speaker 2: see what you do, because that's the point, right, And

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Speaker 2: the food service industry are both at one point in

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Speaker 1: Mm hmm.

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Speaker 2: Shared tipping would piss me off. Like the other day

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Speaker 2: we were at the bar before a baseball game and

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Speaker 2: know that's because there are people that you don't see

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Speaker 2: the end of the day. So what instant advises you

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Speaker 2: then to work that hard aside from just pride. I

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Speaker 2: guess which doesn't pay the bills? Hey Tina, Hello Tina,

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Speaker 3: Uh? You know what my rule of thumb now is

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Speaker 3: tip tip. If I didn't chip before, I do not

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Speaker 1: Okay, right, okay, hell yeah Tina. Fair enough.

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Speaker 2: So you're saying that as the trends evolved and it

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Speaker 1: To do it.

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Speaker 3: Well, every place has either a chip cup out or

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Speaker 3: you know, yes, when you when you have a card

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Speaker 3: credit card, it comes up. You know, do you want

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Speaker 3: You know, like there's different different ones. And and my

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Speaker 2: All right, Tina, Well, thank you, have a good day,

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Speaker 2: you too, Thank you for listening. Now people are like, well,

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Speaker 2: I get it, but like it affects everybody. Yes, if

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Speaker 4: Sure, but like not every restaurant, not every store. Like

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Speaker 4: car wash. Now they added on the screen. You think,

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Speaker 2: And that's only guy.

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Speaker 5: car wash. No, but if they dry, I always say, right, yeah,

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Speaker 2: It's a hard topic because you can I can see

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Speaker 2: and they should get a piece. But then again, these

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Speaker 2: But again, maybe maybe that makes me like a I

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Speaker 2: it's like I'm gonna bust my assiw I'm gonna make

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Speaker 1: You're not allowed to talk about it.