WEBVTT - Call It with Kristin Chenoweth

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<v Speaker 1>Call It What It Is with Jessica Capshaw and Camille Luddington,

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<v Speaker 1>an iHeartRadio podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, Hello, Hello, Hello, Hello Call It crew, and welcome

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<v Speaker 2>to another episode of Call It What It Is. This

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<v Speaker 2>one's very special. I know we say that a lot,

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<v Speaker 2>but this one feels extra magical. And the reason being

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<v Speaker 2>is because when we first knew we're doing this podcast,

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<v Speaker 2>Jessica and I put together a list of like our favoritest,

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<v Speaker 2>favoritest people that dreamy, people that we want to have

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<v Speaker 2>on and literally this was like maybe the first person

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<v Speaker 2>that came out of your mouth.

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<v Speaker 3>That's true.

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<v Speaker 1>I love me some christens it. I love her so much.

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<v Speaker 1>You all, if you don't know where, you're going to

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<v Speaker 1>fall in love and you do you know, yeah, of

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<v Speaker 1>course you know her. But if you don't, if you

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<v Speaker 1>haven't heard her talking in her real voice about her

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<v Speaker 1>real life, you're gonna fall in love. And if you

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<v Speaker 1>do know her, then you're just gonna fall deeper in love.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you know what you know?

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<v Speaker 2>What's so funny is that we no I just want

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<v Speaker 2>to say really quick. What's so funny is we've been

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<v Speaker 2>waiting because she's the busiest person that anyone could ever know,

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<v Speaker 2>of course, And she's so talented that of course she's

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<v Speaker 2>wanted and needed everywhere, and so we've been wanting her

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<v Speaker 2>on for a long time and it's literally timed out

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<v Speaker 2>with Wicked and I can't even believe that.

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<v Speaker 3>And so all things.

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<v Speaker 2>Happen for a reason, and we have to bring her

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<v Speaker 2>in and just talk about all the things.

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<v Speaker 3>All the things, and she will.

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<v Speaker 2>Who is.

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<v Speaker 3>I was just talking about how much in the where

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<v Speaker 3>in the bathroom? What's happening?

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<v Speaker 4>I'm in Oklahoma. I just finished a photo shoot and

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<v Speaker 4>it's stay like forty one had a day off. But

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<v Speaker 4>I'm happy to see.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my god, Kristin. I'm so excited to meet you.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like I know you because Jess talks about

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<v Speaker 2>you all the time.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm happy to meet you too, You sweet angel.

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<v Speaker 3>You're like family. I mean, we played family, That's how

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<v Speaker 3>we met.

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<v Speaker 1>But even when I go to I had been on

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<v Speaker 1>Grays for so long and you get off and you're like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna go do something different, and what's that going

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<v Speaker 1>to be? And it ended up being this movie that

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<v Speaker 1>I auditioned for three times.

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<v Speaker 3>Because they're like, I don't know if she's funny.

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<v Speaker 4>Did I know that you had to even audition?

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<v Speaker 3>Like hello, No, you would have like flipped a table

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<v Speaker 3>if you found that out.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm already flipping a table.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, flip it, Kristen Well, I bet she's pissed she

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<v Speaker 1>had to audition. Anyways, I get the part and I

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<v Speaker 1>come to the table reading at Lena and I walk

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<v Speaker 1>in and we'ren't some I'm like, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean the production officers were in't like we're to.

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<v Speaker 1>And I see this bright, gorgeous face and she runs

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<v Speaker 1>up to me like like like we're like we're long

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<v Speaker 1>lost family.

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<v Speaker 3>And I couldn't believe it.

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<v Speaker 1>And I also was like I believe you were family,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's how it started.

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<v Speaker 4>I fell in love with her. She doesn't remember this, Camela,

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<v Speaker 4>that I was on a red carpet before anyone was

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<v Speaker 4>born and baby Jessica was there. I can't remember what

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<v Speaker 4>even show you were doing at the time, but I

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<v Speaker 4>just thought that girl's really talented. And then when Holliday

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<v Speaker 4>came up, you know you know me now, caps I'm

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<v Speaker 4>just like I can't wait to say hi, and just

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<v Speaker 4>like love on her. And so I went right up

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<v Speaker 4>to her in my much too muchness that I am

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<v Speaker 4>and never enough, and that was that was all she wrote.

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<v Speaker 1>It was it was we were we were off to

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<v Speaker 1>the races, and we were all staying in the same

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<v Speaker 1>apartment complex, and we would call each other video, send

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<v Speaker 1>videos to each other, ride in the car together, stop

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<v Speaker 1>at Starbucks together. I knew her order, but I knew

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<v Speaker 1>your Starbucks order by heart, like I could go to

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<v Speaker 1>Starbucks for you.

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<v Speaker 2>What is that?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, we tell everyone what the Starbucks order is. We

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<v Speaker 3>want to know. Sorry, her beverages don't come from Starbucks.

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<v Speaker 3>Where do your beverages come from?

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<v Speaker 4>Coca Cola? I like Coca Cola regular?

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<v Speaker 3>Are we talking about regular?

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<v Speaker 4>Wide waist star?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, okay, regular Coca Cola. I love this.

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<v Speaker 4>And now I know I have to say Coca Cola

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<v Speaker 4>because I said I just love coke and somebody.

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<v Speaker 3>Said co Colaa.

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<v Speaker 4>I did change my order, Jessica. Just I know you're

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<v Speaker 4>dying to hear the news. But I am love the

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<v Speaker 4>egg white bites and I still do. But now that's

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<v Speaker 4>the thing, and I give this to you as a gift. Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>you have a square thing called potato cheddar bytes and

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<v Speaker 4>it's eight it's egg white bites. And potato and cheese

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<v Speaker 4>and you're welcome. And they're only two hundred ten calories.

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<v Speaker 4>So there it is.

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<v Speaker 1>Wait, just is this why you love egg white bites? Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>she's the first what she said, I could get to

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<v Speaker 1>a time now. Yes, I get them in airports, I

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<v Speaker 1>get them, I get them wherever. Yes, because it's a

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<v Speaker 1>perfect little bite.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, now we go. So how long were you guys

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<v Speaker 3>shooting that together?

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<v Speaker 4>For whatever? No, like cats, was it like two or

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<v Speaker 4>three months?

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<v Speaker 1>It felt like forever because we went through every single

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<v Speaker 1>holiday in the year, so it felt like a year,

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<v Speaker 1>but it wasn't a year.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like we started in May and we were

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<v Speaker 1>done by the beginning of August the end of July.

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<v Speaker 4>I think you're right.

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<v Speaker 1>I had my baby girl because she was the only

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<v Speaker 1>one that wasn't in school, so she would come back

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<v Speaker 1>and forth. So I would always have like a car

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<v Speaker 1>seat that i'd try to put in the van, or.

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<v Speaker 4>I'd Jessica was we would go on our days off.

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<v Speaker 4>She's like, what do you want to do. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm I'm roaded hard and put away. What what do

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<v Speaker 4>you mean, I'm exhausted? She was like, let's go shopping.

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<v Speaker 4>Let's go. And there was in our little pont city.

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<v Speaker 4>There was a jewelry store, there was a gift store,

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<v Speaker 4>and she'd have all her kids, which I think they're

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<v Speaker 4>twenty seven of them all in there, and they their

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<v Speaker 4>kids are good. No, I know, we get parental class.

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<v Speaker 3>My kids are not like that. And you're right.

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<v Speaker 2>I travel with her too, and I'm like, let me

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<v Speaker 2>just bedrot, like, let me be and she's like, I

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<v Speaker 2>just went on a whole hike by the beach and

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<v Speaker 2>now and it's like, let's go.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm like, no, you want to go out after.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, no, no, we don't.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't want to joel on, hold on, hold on

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<v Speaker 1>what she would great, let's not let's not pretend that

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<v Speaker 1>you were doing nothing in your room. When I would

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<v Speaker 1>find out later like so what did you end up doing?

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<v Speaker 1>And she'll be she'd be like, well, I had fourteen interviews,

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<v Speaker 1>and then I did a bedside version a cappella. I

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<v Speaker 1>did on a voice recording, but I did send it

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<v Speaker 1>to Broadway. They're going to play it in front of everyone.

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<v Speaker 1>There's gonna be twenty seven hundred person audience for what

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<v Speaker 1>I just recorded from my bed and I'm.

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<v Speaker 3>Like, You're like, let's go get jewelry. Can we just

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<v Speaker 3>make a bracelet? Why don't we go do that?

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<v Speaker 4>There was one I remember because on the days off,

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<v Speaker 4>and it caught up with me and now I'm not

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<v Speaker 4>doing that anymore. But I used to sing concerts on

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<v Speaker 4>my yeah weekends off from the movies, and Capshaw was like,

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<v Speaker 4>are you like, what are you doing? I want you

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<v Speaker 4>to know, Jess, I'm trying to well, first of all,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm in my fifties now, girls, so I'm taken. I'm

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<v Speaker 4>just trying to be a little bit more mindful of

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<v Speaker 4>the time that I have and resting and self care.

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<v Speaker 4>I grew up in a time when self care was

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<v Speaker 4>not a thing. It was like you keep going and

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<v Speaker 4>you don't complain. And you know, I'm from the South too,

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<v Speaker 4>so we have that.

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<v Speaker 1>Hair care was a thing, but not self care. You're

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<v Speaker 1>so right, and you're really got really good haircare.

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<v Speaker 4>Hair care. I finally learned what that is too, And

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<v Speaker 4>of course none of it's mine, but it's okay.

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<v Speaker 3>None of it's mine either. It's okay.

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<v Speaker 1>You know why people are there to help, that's right, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So can I just before we get on we can't

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<v Speaker 1>get off of holiday without telling Okay, I need to

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<v Speaker 1>know all the story well because it puts us in

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<v Speaker 1>just a very special place.

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<v Speaker 3>I hope that Christmas already laughing, did you know what

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<v Speaker 3>this is already?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because there's no way that there's no other story

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<v Speaker 1>that's that's going to make her look the way she

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<v Speaker 1>looks right now. Okay, So we're we're pretty deep into

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<v Speaker 1>our love affair, like we know we're no, we know

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<v Speaker 1>that we are each other's people, yes, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>there's like they're setting things up somewhere and so we're

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<v Speaker 1>just like chit chatting and every time like they're moving

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<v Speaker 1>the set like all the grip stuff and everything. So

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<v Speaker 1>we keep having to move spots like you're in the

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<v Speaker 1>way here, you got to move over here, and then

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<v Speaker 1>you So we find this place to sit stand and

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<v Speaker 1>we're talking and we're standing there's like a we're in

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<v Speaker 1>the we're in Atlanta, and there's we're outside and there's

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<v Speaker 1>like an elevated back patio. Yeah, like a somewhat of

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<v Speaker 1>a balcony, right, yeah, like a balcony, but we're not

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<v Speaker 1>on top of the balcony.

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<v Speaker 4>Almost got you remember.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, yes, you did what happened. Okay, we need to

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<v Speaker 3>know this story too.

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<v Speaker 4>It was it tick calling up her leg. We were

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<v Speaker 4>both in swimsuits, miserable and slapped it off.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah she did, she did, and I let her and

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<v Speaker 3>I liked it.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay. So we're standing at the bottom of this balcony

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<v Speaker 1>so that our heads are like equal with the feet

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<v Speaker 1>of the people standing on top of the balcony.

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<v Speaker 4>This is very important.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, Okay, I'm picturing it. Okay, can you pature that?

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<v Speaker 1>So we're standing there, so our little heads are right there,

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<v Speaker 1>level with again the people's feet that are standing on

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<v Speaker 1>the balcony, so they're like above us, and we're chip chatting,

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<v Speaker 1>chit chatting. And there comes when you want to take

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<v Speaker 1>it away.

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<v Speaker 3>Christen.

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<v Speaker 4>There was a boom operator and he had that you

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<v Speaker 4>know he had he had the head hands on, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>hands on, and he just he just let it rip.

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<v Speaker 4>Hey god, yes, our faces were right where his butt

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<v Speaker 4>would be, right, you don't remember, but he just let

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<v Speaker 4>it rip and just that and I went like we

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<v Speaker 4>were like scooby Doo bo doo, and we went in

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<v Speaker 4>the direction, not even look at each other. I went

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<v Speaker 4>one area, she went to the other. We went and

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<v Speaker 4>lookes throw ourselves.

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<v Speaker 3>Could not regulates. Are lucky to get pink eye?

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<v Speaker 4>That's very fo we And to this day I say,

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<v Speaker 4>boom operator and we both know. We both stop it

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<v Speaker 4>to say does he know that he did that?

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<v Speaker 3>Of course he doesn't.

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<v Speaker 2>He didn't see us, so he was like, I'm freeing

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<v Speaker 2>so gross you guys grossed out.

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<v Speaker 4>But then we couldn't contain it.

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<v Speaker 3>No, we did. We went out. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And one of the greatest gifts of being friends with

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<v Speaker 1>Kristin is she really does. She doesn't text you. She

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<v Speaker 1>takes a video of herself and sends it to you,

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<v Speaker 1>so it's in real It's not even like a voice memo.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a real the whole movie. And every once in

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<v Speaker 1>a while over the past couple of years, she will

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<v Speaker 1>just send a video and it all really simply says

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<v Speaker 1>is we got farted on.

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<v Speaker 3>We were farted on.

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<v Speaker 2>Mine in our own business, y'all just trying to make

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<v Speaker 2>a movie, just trying to make.

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<v Speaker 4>You cannot re enact because we looked at each other

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<v Speaker 4>when we got farted.

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<v Speaker 3>Direction opposite directions.

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<v Speaker 4>I know.

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<v Speaker 2>There were so many funny keeping a street priests because

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<v Speaker 2>the word fart can't even handle the word fart.

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<v Speaker 3>No, if you talk about it's because you're PTSD with

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<v Speaker 3>this one.

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<v Speaker 4>I think, so this is you have some drama the

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<v Speaker 4>Boom Operator doesn't.

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<v Speaker 1>It does? And there were so many funny people on

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<v Speaker 1>that movie. And I remember you and I, Oh my gosh,

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<v Speaker 1>remember Alex moffittt from Sorry Live?

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<v Speaker 3>Why would we like?

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<v Speaker 4>He's the funniest person.

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<v Speaker 3>God, he was funny. I know, I love him by

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<v Speaker 3>the way, Yeah Sorry, he played my.

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<v Speaker 1>Husband and he was he was so funny. We had

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<v Speaker 1>we had a really good time and Emma Roberts just

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<v Speaker 1>love her so much. It was but we became my family.

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<v Speaker 1>We became my family. And then so that was a

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<v Speaker 1>holiday movie. You've done a lot of holiday movies.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, can I talk about this before you got on?

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<v Speaker 2>I said to Jessica, and she is going to tell

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<v Speaker 2>us a story that we both apparently don't know. I said,

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<v Speaker 2>you're in one of my favorite ever holiday movies for Christmases.

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<v Speaker 3>I love that movie so much. And then Jessica, what

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<v Speaker 3>did you say? I said, I have to talk to

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<v Speaker 3>her about it. And then what did you say?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I said, I don't think Kristen even knows how

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<v Speaker 1>many times I auditioned for movies that.

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<v Speaker 3>She got what And I remember I did not even know.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember, like you know, I always felt like when

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<v Speaker 1>I was auditioning early days, I was like the Orman's

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<v Speaker 1>Reese Witherspoon.

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<v Speaker 3>They'd be like, you look a lot like Ree Witherspoon.

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<v Speaker 5>But not but like not like as good's pretty, not

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<v Speaker 5>as pretty, but like not as funny either, but also

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<v Speaker 5>like I don't know, just not her, but like.

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<v Speaker 3>But not at all like that.

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<v Speaker 1>And so anyways, when I get the script and it's

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<v Speaker 1>playing her sister, I'm like, well, fuck, I can do that, right,

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<v Speaker 1>That's what this poor man's Reese Wetherspoon is gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>good for is I'm gonna be able to be her sister.

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<v Speaker 1>And so I'm like, I got this, and I throw

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<v Speaker 1>out my best audition whatever, and they come back to

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<v Speaker 1>me and they're like, oh, I mean it was a

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<v Speaker 1>good audition, but Kristin Chenowith got it.

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, Kristen, you would have been amazing you

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<v Speaker 3>with you were better. I gotta tell you, Kristen, that

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<v Speaker 3>role was for you.

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<v Speaker 2>Because Jessica and I talk about that you get the

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<v Speaker 2>roles you were supposed to get, that you are so

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<v Speaker 2>funny in that movie that I wanted to know because.

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<v Speaker 3>I wanted this every time I watch it. Was there

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of improv in that movie.

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<v Speaker 4>It was mostly improv, my sweet And I was so

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<v Speaker 4>happy that Vince and Reese let us you know that's

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<v Speaker 4>always when and you know this, you both know this,

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<v Speaker 4>that when it just happens naturally, and Vince would just go, chinniwick,

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<v Speaker 4>just do it. He let us all do that. I

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<v Speaker 4>do have one little story that I've never told.

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<v Speaker 3>Bring it.

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<v Speaker 4>I saved it. I saved it, and I didn't know

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<v Speaker 4>if this movie would come up. I swear, I swear

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<v Speaker 4>I've never told this, but I you know that character

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<v Speaker 4>has all these kids right back, and she has these twins.

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<v Speaker 4>H I've never had a child, and and I love them,

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<v Speaker 4>but I just I didn't work out that way for me.

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<v Speaker 4>And I'm having all these kids around me and I'm

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<v Speaker 4>holding this this these twins all the time. My neck

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<v Speaker 4>was really hurting and they would bring in and say,

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<v Speaker 4>give you a break and let me hold one. Because

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<v Speaker 4>I wanted to seem like a mom, right. I wanted

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<v Speaker 4>it to look realistic. And I looked down and I'm

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<v Speaker 4>like why I hope I can tell this on this podcast.

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<v Speaker 3>You can tell anything. We talk about all the things.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, good. I looked down and I'm wet in my

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<v Speaker 4>boom area and I was like, what is that? And

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<v Speaker 4>I was lactating.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah what?

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<v Speaker 4>And I panicked and I went I remember mentioning very quietly,

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<v Speaker 4>begining toes. She goes, No, it's a real thing. It

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<v Speaker 4>can happen. It's a real thing. I've never done it since,

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<v Speaker 4>but I don't know if it was. I don't know

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<v Speaker 4>what it was. But I had to put little covers.

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<v Speaker 4>I had started lactating, daring that what was that? That

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<v Speaker 4>is insane.

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<v Speaker 3>I love that story.

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<v Speaker 4>Thing. It can happen.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm so glad you gave this to us. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>I've had that happened when I was breastfeeding, but never

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<v Speaker 3>when I was not well.

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<v Speaker 4>I thought, am I pregnant?

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<v Speaker 2>Not know it?

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<v Speaker 4>No, I wasn't pregnant. But I guess it's a real

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<v Speaker 4>you know, you think about the wet back in the

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<v Speaker 4>day or whatever. But it happened to me, and I

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<v Speaker 4>was so embarrassed because there was like these wet patches, right,

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<v Speaker 4>is't that weird?

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<v Speaker 3>That's crazy? But you were surrounded by kids in that movie.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, you know, I was probably at my peak, if

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<v Speaker 4>you know what I mean, and I was. I was

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<v Speaker 4>just loving them. I do love children. I just love them.

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<v Speaker 4>We had this thing called the jump jump in that movie.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, you did the jump jump and I.

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<v Speaker 4>Would get in there on my breaks. Oh it was

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<v Speaker 4>a bee tree dish and probably everything, but I didn't care.

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<v Speaker 4>I was just it was fun.

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<v Speaker 3>My favorite scene the movie is when you guys go

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<v Speaker 3>to church.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh isn't that funny?

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<v Speaker 3>And Vince is on stage doing like Jessica hasn't seen it,

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<v Speaker 3>she's kids, watch it now. I processed the pain of

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<v Speaker 3>the rejection.

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<v Speaker 4>That's what I had to the process. You know, we

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<v Speaker 4>always want there's always a part we want, right and

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<v Speaker 4>like you said.

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<v Speaker 3>The party, is there one for you? Yeah? I was

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<v Speaker 3>gonna say, let's tell us what is the part that

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<v Speaker 3>you did not get that you were like over.

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<v Speaker 4>It's Hunger Games? Oh I wanted to play Oh my god,

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<v Speaker 4>oh how great? I mean I auditioned several times for that.

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<v Speaker 4>But when I went to see it and I saw

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<v Speaker 4>I saw Elizabeth, Yeah, thanks to it, I just went,

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<v Speaker 4>you know what, she's so perfect, like you can't but

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<v Speaker 4>it takes a minute.

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<v Speaker 3>You have to let Yeah, yeah, I gotta say, though

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<v Speaker 3>I can if they ever redo it, I can see you.

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<v Speaker 1>In that role.

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<v Speaker 3>I can honestly see you in anything.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean yes, but that role in particular with like

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<v Speaker 2>the outfits and that, and you know, she I like,

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<v Speaker 2>you would have killed it.

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<v Speaker 4>It was so wasn't it a pretty movie? I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>if you can say it's a pretty movie, But I

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<v Speaker 4>just I loved I loved the books, so I was.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And Poppy's reading them right now and she loves them.

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<v Speaker 3>She's obsessed.

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<v Speaker 1>She is also, by the way, speaking of you with kids,

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<v Speaker 1>all my girls love you. You love my girls like you.

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<v Speaker 1>So I mean so yeah, like family, like completely like

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<v Speaker 1>family I worked with. My first movie that I ever

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<v Speaker 1>did was with Vince Vaughn.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh what was it? Yes?

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<v Speaker 3>Wait, I don't know this, gosh, Sam full of sometimes

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<v Speaker 3>you are. I did a movie called The Locusts. It

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<v Speaker 3>was with Vince Vaughn, and he made me laugh.

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<v Speaker 1>He might be one of the top Yeah three like

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<v Speaker 1>to be with. Like, when you're in a room with

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<v Speaker 1>Vince Vaughn, you are non stop laughing. I haven't seen

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<v Speaker 1>him in a very long time, but back then it's true,

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<v Speaker 1>like like like coke co cola out your nose, like

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<v Speaker 1>you're like you're yeah, you cannot believe it. And we

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<v Speaker 1>had a very we had a very fun We were

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<v Speaker 1>like we had a very like brother sister vibe.

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<v Speaker 4>He and I. Yeah, he's one of those guys like

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<v Speaker 4>in much like Robin Williams who it's like, just let

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<v Speaker 4>him go, just let I asked Robin one time we

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<v Speaker 4>were doing this movie RV. And I said, do you

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<v Speaker 4>ever just because he's always on chill yeah, and Vincent

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<v Speaker 4>and he goes, no, this is me, yes around it it. Actually,

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know how you felt just but I felt

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<v Speaker 4>like Sharper.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh for sure. Oh yeah, you got to be on

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<v Speaker 3>your toes around someone like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you know they always say if you want to

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<v Speaker 1>get better at something, play with someone who's better than

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<v Speaker 1>you and not like I think I'm some great comedian,

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<v Speaker 1>but I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm kind of funny, and being with him you would

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<v Speaker 3>have to like.

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<v Speaker 1>And Paul Red was in it too, and Paul Red

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<v Speaker 1>is also hilarious, and being with both of them was definitely.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, the movie was an extreme bummer. It

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<v Speaker 1>was like the deepest darkest drama ever about like Insaust

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<v Speaker 1>And yeah, it was like not a funny movie in

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<v Speaker 1>any way, shape or form, but off camera we were

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<v Speaker 1>laughing a lot. Yeah, And I remember when we used

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<v Speaker 1>to go out and I would because he swingers, said,

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<v Speaker 1>I think was just about to come out, and oh

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<v Speaker 1>my gosh, he was so handsome again go back to

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<v Speaker 1>our brother sister Vibe.

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<v Speaker 3>He's so tall, so tall, and so handsome. And we

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<v Speaker 3>would go out and I remember just being very He

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<v Speaker 3>would use me as shield.

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<v Speaker 1>Just to bounce the girls off of girls would be

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<v Speaker 1>coming at him like rapid fire, just like throwing themselves

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<v Speaker 1>at him, and I was safe. And we had such

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<v Speaker 1>a like I said, we were just such a good

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<v Speaker 1>dynamic and we had so much fun. And so he

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<v Speaker 1>would just like instantly pretend like I was his girlfriend.

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<v Speaker 1>They're like arm would go around me and he'd be like, nope, nope, nope.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh you're even fatigue compared to the like he's.

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<v Speaker 3>Tall, he's very he's very, very tall.

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<v Speaker 2>I would find improvising in a comedy with him really intimidating.

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<v Speaker 4>I can't imagine like I did it.

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<v Speaker 3>I did do it, but there was one time I

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<v Speaker 3>love it She's like, I can't imagine it.

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<v Speaker 4>Why did I say that? But I will say there

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<v Speaker 4>was one time he said just go. It was in

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<v Speaker 4>the bathroom. It got cut, but he just said, you're

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<v Speaker 4>in the bathroom and Reese comes in and I think

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<v Speaker 4>it was not long after the lack ta Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 4>I just riffed for about fifteen minutes and he shot

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<v Speaker 4>it all. And then you remember in the church scene

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<v Speaker 4>that you brought up, Yeah, we were all riffing. He

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<v Speaker 4>just he would put the camera on anyone, any one

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<v Speaker 4>of it, the character actors, and would just let us play.

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<v Speaker 4>And I remember we were all getting a little confident

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<v Speaker 4>and a little too much. And I remember kept saying,

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<v Speaker 4>who let the dogs out? I'll never forget. Oh my god,

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<v Speaker 4>He's right.

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<v Speaker 3>But you know what I love when you go crazy?

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<v Speaker 1>And you in Holiday, she played Aunt Susan, and you

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<v Speaker 1>had the you always have the most amazing characters, but

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<v Speaker 1>you just got to be wild. And I remember at

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<v Speaker 1>one point you were always bringing home different bows, different

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<v Speaker 1>different men to our family gatherings, and you brought home

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<v Speaker 1>a Santa and you, I mean, this guy loved this.

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<v Speaker 3>Know what had hit him? I mean, Kristen was on him.

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<v Speaker 3>Like a pole.

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<v Speaker 4>It was.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean it was like she was hanging from the rafter.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my gosh, she was.

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<v Speaker 4>It was the bag of her.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean it was commitment, is what it was. It

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<v Speaker 3>was commitments.

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<v Speaker 4>Do you know that. I think maybe right after our

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<v Speaker 4>table read said table read, I had a fitting and

0:22:41.119 --> 0:22:47.880
<v Speaker 4>they said they held up this vintage play Playboy play

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<v Speaker 4>Day and outfit and they said, we'd live for you

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<v Speaker 4>to wear this for the Easter Holiday, and I squeezed

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<v Speaker 4>myself into the I remember.

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<v Speaker 2>Hot, well, you was both so taught in that movie

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<v Speaker 2>because there was like a you were in like a

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<v Speaker 2>Leida Hosen whatever.

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<v Speaker 3>Halloween. Yeah, yeah, for Halloween.

0:23:09.000 --> 0:23:11.120
<v Speaker 4>I was in Latex nurse. She was in Later.

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<v Speaker 3>I was, yeah, those are you guys together.

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<v Speaker 4>I've never seen more extras pay more attention to even

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<v Speaker 4>one of us.

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<v Speaker 3>We were classy. We were classy, classic cats.

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<v Speaker 4>Sure. I love it.

0:23:23.119 --> 0:23:23.680
<v Speaker 3>I love it.

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<v Speaker 2>And we just had dan on because you have Bukatinski, Yes,

0:23:28.400 --> 0:23:31.640
<v Speaker 2>we did, and who adores you also said he gets

0:23:31.720 --> 0:23:34.440
<v Speaker 2>video messages from you and you have a So you

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<v Speaker 2>have a holiday movie out right now that we've been

0:23:36.480 --> 0:23:38.080
<v Speaker 2>talking about with Lindsay Lowen.

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<v Speaker 4>What was so good?

0:23:39.359 --> 0:23:44.040
<v Speaker 3>It's so good. It's it again. You just can't be bad, evidently, y'all.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you. What was it like to work with Lindsay?

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<v Speaker 4>It was really fun and I had met her once

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<v Speaker 4>again when she was younger. I mean she's still young,

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<v Speaker 4>but I would say fifteen probably remember when all that

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<v Speaker 4>craziness was surrounding her own.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And what was what I was.

0:24:01.240 --> 0:24:06.960
<v Speaker 4>Struck by is how Lindsay is. Well, obviously she's a

0:24:07.000 --> 0:24:11.720
<v Speaker 4>complete professional, but you know, much like you caps, you know,

0:24:11.880 --> 0:24:14.359
<v Speaker 4>there's the Lindsay Lohan that we all know and a door,

0:24:14.480 --> 0:24:17.440
<v Speaker 4>but then there's mom. She's a now I better, she

0:24:17.560 --> 0:24:21.000
<v Speaker 4>was a new mom and a wife, and she we

0:24:21.160 --> 0:24:23.480
<v Speaker 4>talked a lot. We didn't talk about show business a

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<v Speaker 4>lot we talk about to this day. We talk about

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<v Speaker 4>just like me and you caps. We talk about real

0:24:29.240 --> 0:24:33.680
<v Speaker 4>life stuff. And I just am so if it's okay

0:24:33.840 --> 0:24:35.320
<v Speaker 4>for me to say, I don't even know if I

0:24:35.359 --> 0:24:37.920
<v Speaker 4>should say this, but I'm so proudly at all. I'm

0:24:38.000 --> 0:24:40.760
<v Speaker 4>just proud of her, her and her journey.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, she's amazing and obviously very fun and funny person,

0:24:46.200 --> 0:24:48.200
<v Speaker 4>but very lots of depth.

0:24:48.280 --> 0:24:52.359
<v Speaker 1>There, lots of depth, lots of experience and so much challenge.

0:24:52.400 --> 0:24:54.680
<v Speaker 1>I mean, listen, a parent Chomp was on a loop

0:24:54.760 --> 0:24:57.239
<v Speaker 1>at my house for maybe a year or two. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sure I think I've seen it upwards of forty but

0:25:01.000 --> 0:25:03.480
<v Speaker 1>so also sorry just saying it played two people.

0:25:04.200 --> 0:25:07.240
<v Speaker 2>She actually talks about how she really played four is

0:25:07.280 --> 0:25:09.280
<v Speaker 2>what she feels like, because you play the two girls,

0:25:09.359 --> 0:25:10.920
<v Speaker 2>and then she played the two girls switching.

0:25:11.359 --> 0:25:13.040
<v Speaker 3>Yes, that's right, that's right, that's right, and so she's like,

0:25:13.080 --> 0:25:15.800
<v Speaker 3>I really the experience for me was really like four girls.

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<v Speaker 4>I never even thought of that.

0:25:18.160 --> 0:25:21.200
<v Speaker 3>I know, wow, super talented.

0:25:22.040 --> 0:25:24.480
<v Speaker 4>And that's where I met the Dan. And the Dan

0:25:24.720 --> 0:25:27.720
<v Speaker 4>that's he's loud, like you are my sister. He is

0:25:27.880 --> 0:25:31.520
<v Speaker 4>my brother, the Dan, and he's my day or whenever

0:25:31.640 --> 0:25:32.520
<v Speaker 4>my husband can't.

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<v Speaker 3>I love your husband.

0:25:34.640 --> 0:25:36.880
<v Speaker 1>By the way they were, he would falling in love

0:25:37.040 --> 0:25:39.359
<v Speaker 1>during holiday, and I just love her husband.

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<v Speaker 3>He's so sweet. You guys are a perfect They're just

0:25:41.440 --> 0:25:44.800
<v Speaker 3>such a great Oh you guys were like dating June holidays.

0:25:44.880 --> 0:25:47.359
<v Speaker 3>Oh my gosh. Oh that's so fun.

0:25:47.920 --> 0:25:49.960
<v Speaker 1>And they're so they're so what you I mean, what

0:25:50.040 --> 0:25:52.480
<v Speaker 1>I observed and what I'm making up in my head

0:25:52.600 --> 0:25:55.320
<v Speaker 1>is you two are so good at taking care of

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<v Speaker 1>each other, Yes, I would.

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<v Speaker 3>You would just see. It was almost you didn't even

0:25:58.600 --> 0:25:59.200
<v Speaker 3>it was wordless.

0:25:59.240 --> 0:26:01.000
<v Speaker 1>Sometimes they would just give each other a look and

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<v Speaker 1>it literally meant I paragraph, and the other one would

0:26:04.640 --> 0:26:06.959
<v Speaker 1>pick it up and then do the thing, and they

0:26:07.000 --> 0:26:08.160
<v Speaker 1>were just talking with their eyeballs.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you for saying that. That's when we were first dating,

0:26:12.680 --> 0:26:18.840
<v Speaker 4>and I was too I was too overwhelmed with my schedule.

0:26:19.440 --> 0:26:23.800
<v Speaker 4>And during that movie he said, I don't ever want

0:26:23.880 --> 0:26:26.600
<v Speaker 4>this to happen because I was actually having fun on

0:26:26.720 --> 0:26:32.040
<v Speaker 4>the film, but then doing concerts every weekend. It was

0:26:32.320 --> 0:26:34.680
<v Speaker 4>just too much. And then I think at one point

0:26:34.720 --> 0:26:37.920
<v Speaker 4>I almost crashed and burned, and he said, never again. Well,

0:26:38.480 --> 0:26:40.920
<v Speaker 4>if you'll let me, will I allow this to happen.

0:26:41.440 --> 0:26:44.560
<v Speaker 4>And that was, however, many years ago. And one of

0:26:44.640 --> 0:26:46.800
<v Speaker 4>the reasons that one of the many reasons that I

0:26:46.920 --> 0:26:51.080
<v Speaker 4>married him is because he is interested in, Yes, the music,

0:26:51.200 --> 0:26:53.760
<v Speaker 4>he's my guitarist now and we have a lot of

0:26:53.800 --> 0:26:56.960
<v Speaker 4>great fun on the road, but he is more interested

0:26:57.119 --> 0:27:01.479
<v Speaker 4>in keeping me safe and healthy. Has it's not as

0:27:01.560 --> 0:27:04.399
<v Speaker 4>easy as it used to be, So sorry, no, I

0:27:04.480 --> 0:27:08.240
<v Speaker 4>love you. It used to be and he's there to go, hey,

0:27:08.320 --> 0:27:11.920
<v Speaker 4>everybody on this team. She's just one little person. And

0:27:12.800 --> 0:27:14.359
<v Speaker 4>you know it's hard.

0:27:14.680 --> 0:27:18.200
<v Speaker 2>It's hard to say no to things too, and so

0:27:18.520 --> 0:27:20.880
<v Speaker 2>to have that person that loves you and can read

0:27:20.960 --> 0:27:24.480
<v Speaker 2>you like it's you know, listen, the team that represents

0:27:24.560 --> 0:27:26.800
<v Speaker 2>you you can say no to, but you know, at

0:27:26.840 --> 0:27:28.040
<v Speaker 2>the end of the day, they want you to be

0:27:28.080 --> 0:27:29.960
<v Speaker 2>out there doing all the opportunities. So the person that

0:27:30.040 --> 0:27:32.040
<v Speaker 2>loves you being able to advocate for you and be like,

0:27:32.240 --> 0:27:35.119
<v Speaker 2>actually no, And sometimes you don't even know that you

0:27:35.240 --> 0:27:35.840
<v Speaker 2>need to say.

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<v Speaker 4>No, no, I get caught up in I'm not gonna

0:27:39.080 --> 0:27:41.639
<v Speaker 4>let's just talk real, like, Okay, you're fifty six now,

0:27:42.000 --> 0:27:44.359
<v Speaker 4>you want to stay relevant, you want to continue to work.

0:27:44.680 --> 0:27:48.119
<v Speaker 4>These are all real things. As women we have we

0:27:48.280 --> 0:27:51.760
<v Speaker 4>have to hear, right, And He's like, you're relevant till

0:27:51.760 --> 0:27:54.400
<v Speaker 4>the day you die. If you quit tomorrow, you've given

0:27:54.440 --> 0:27:57.320
<v Speaker 4>the world so much. Stop it right now. Anybody that

0:27:57.440 --> 0:27:59.560
<v Speaker 4>says that to you has got to go. I've got

0:27:59.600 --> 0:28:02.720
<v Speaker 4>your back. You just let your work speak for you

0:28:02.880 --> 0:28:05.199
<v Speaker 4>and stop it. And he is the balance.

0:28:05.640 --> 0:28:08.720
<v Speaker 3>I feel like standing ovation yeah no, but that's the

0:28:08.840 --> 0:28:12.600
<v Speaker 3>care taking. But that's the caretaking. And I remember, I

0:28:12.600 --> 0:28:13.800
<v Speaker 3>don't know if you remember this, Kristen.

0:28:14.080 --> 0:28:16.160
<v Speaker 1>So after we did this movie together. We just became

0:28:16.480 --> 0:28:20.040
<v Speaker 1>just very fast friends and like like family. And we

0:28:20.160 --> 0:28:24.000
<v Speaker 1>went to go see Hadestown Sit together in New York City,

0:28:24.920 --> 0:28:26.720
<v Speaker 1>and I mean, I knew she was Kristin Chena with

0:28:26.880 --> 0:28:29.200
<v Speaker 1>but I was like, I mean whatever, I've been around

0:28:29.240 --> 0:28:32.760
<v Speaker 1>a lot of famous people, like going out with going

0:28:32.760 --> 0:28:34.280
<v Speaker 1>out with the famous person in New York City is

0:28:34.280 --> 0:28:36.080
<v Speaker 1>like no big deal. And you know, I mean, like

0:28:36.119 --> 0:28:38.240
<v Speaker 1>they may recognize me from Gris Anatomy when I'm walking

0:28:38.280 --> 0:28:40.520
<v Speaker 1>through that theater too, right, they might be like, look,

0:28:40.560 --> 0:28:41.800
<v Speaker 1>there's there's Jess, like a camshow.

0:28:42.840 --> 0:28:49.000
<v Speaker 3>I was pond scum, pond scum that they stepped on over.

0:28:49.840 --> 0:28:52.480
<v Speaker 1>It was I think I got like I got some

0:28:52.640 --> 0:28:54.960
<v Speaker 1>like bruises on my knees from people just knocking buy me.

0:28:55.320 --> 0:28:58.240
<v Speaker 3>Just just take her out. I would have going somewhere.

0:28:58.480 --> 0:29:00.560
<v Speaker 1>Going somewhere with her is my point is like going

0:29:00.680 --> 0:29:03.760
<v Speaker 1>with the Queen, especially I mean especially on Broadway, and

0:29:03.840 --> 0:29:04.520
<v Speaker 1>then we.

0:29:04.560 --> 0:29:06.080
<v Speaker 3>Saw them after the show is so amazing.

0:29:06.120 --> 0:29:08.800
<v Speaker 1>And then I remember coming to see you in something

0:29:08.840 --> 0:29:11.440
<v Speaker 1>and for some reason, I'm I don't remember, but I

0:29:11.480 --> 0:29:12.960
<v Speaker 1>came to see you in a show you did something

0:29:13.080 --> 0:29:13.560
<v Speaker 1>go on.

0:29:13.640 --> 0:29:16.200
<v Speaker 4>Broadway, my own concert and I was exhausted with it,

0:29:16.400 --> 0:29:17.720
<v Speaker 4>and here Jessica shows up.

0:29:17.840 --> 0:29:20.560
<v Speaker 3>You know, yes, but do you remember what happened afterwards?

0:29:21.080 --> 0:29:23.520
<v Speaker 4>I feel like there was something, well, here's so.

0:29:23.840 --> 0:29:25.840
<v Speaker 1>Along those lines, and I, like I said, I just

0:29:25.920 --> 0:29:27.640
<v Speaker 1>love her husband so much, and he and I would

0:29:28.240 --> 0:29:29.760
<v Speaker 1>we would also look at each other and sort of.

0:29:29.800 --> 0:29:31.240
<v Speaker 3>Go like, okay, we got her.

0:29:31.960 --> 0:29:34.560
<v Speaker 1>So I come to see your show, which was just

0:29:34.640 --> 0:29:37.280
<v Speaker 1>all you in a concert, and I came to see

0:29:37.320 --> 0:29:40.280
<v Speaker 1>you afterwards, and you were, I mean.

0:29:40.360 --> 0:29:41.480
<v Speaker 3>Larger than life on stage.

0:29:41.520 --> 0:29:44.680
<v Speaker 1>Cavilla like, this voice and this presence and everything about

0:29:44.720 --> 0:29:48.520
<v Speaker 1>her performance was perfect, perfect, perfect, everything you would want.

0:29:49.080 --> 0:29:51.240
<v Speaker 1>And everybody You're looking around and the lights from the

0:29:51.240 --> 0:29:53.960
<v Speaker 1>stage are on people's faces and like she's reflected in

0:29:54.040 --> 0:29:56.800
<v Speaker 1>their little glassy eyeballs and they're all just adoring and

0:29:56.960 --> 0:29:59.360
<v Speaker 1>clapping and just living their best life there.

0:30:00.080 --> 0:30:01.280
<v Speaker 3>I'm lucky enough to go see.

0:30:01.120 --> 0:30:03.480
<v Speaker 1>Her afterwards, Camilla laughs at me, because I always go

0:30:03.600 --> 0:30:04.600
<v Speaker 1>see people afterwards.

0:30:05.080 --> 0:30:08.080
<v Speaker 2>That's why she does. Kristin, they let her see anyone.

0:30:09.640 --> 0:30:13.200
<v Speaker 2>Christiane escort me out before even the end of anything.

0:30:13.920 --> 0:30:14.880
<v Speaker 3>I have to leave early.

0:30:15.520 --> 0:30:16.400
<v Speaker 4>Are you that first?

0:30:16.520 --> 0:30:18.280
<v Speaker 2>I'm that person where they're like, well, we need you

0:30:18.320 --> 0:30:20.640
<v Speaker 2>to open the exit door for everyone else and hold it,

0:30:21.200 --> 0:30:26.080
<v Speaker 2>and Jessica goes and Taylor's waiting for her or whoever

0:30:26.360 --> 0:30:27.200
<v Speaker 2>is waiting for her.

0:30:29.520 --> 0:30:33.440
<v Speaker 1>So I go back and I see Kristin and Josh

0:30:33.560 --> 0:30:36.600
<v Speaker 1>Is in the room and I looked at you because

0:30:36.600 --> 0:30:39.080
<v Speaker 1>there you were in real life, and I said, you

0:30:39.200 --> 0:30:39.959
<v Speaker 1>are magnificent.

0:30:40.200 --> 0:30:42.240
<v Speaker 3>You are incredible. That was the most amazing show.

0:30:43.360 --> 0:30:46.920
<v Speaker 1>You need to take a break, I remember, naw, And

0:30:47.040 --> 0:30:49.680
<v Speaker 1>I remember being like, why am I saying this to her?

0:30:49.880 --> 0:30:52.400
<v Speaker 3>Like I shouldn't be saying this to her? What am

0:30:52.400 --> 0:30:54.280
<v Speaker 3>I doing? Like who am I to come in and

0:30:54.400 --> 0:30:56.239
<v Speaker 3>be like you should be taking a break. But there

0:30:56.360 --> 0:30:59.520
<v Speaker 3>was something, yeah, where I.

0:30:59.640 --> 0:31:03.120
<v Speaker 1>Was like, you do you are so fully committed and

0:31:03.240 --> 0:31:05.560
<v Speaker 1>you burn the candle and you are setting yourself on

0:31:05.640 --> 0:31:08.440
<v Speaker 1>fire to keep everybody else warm. And there's a moment

0:31:08.480 --> 0:31:13.240
<v Speaker 1>when the people who do know you have that that

0:31:13.760 --> 0:31:15.680
<v Speaker 1>moment of recognition where you just go, Okay, hold on,

0:31:15.800 --> 0:31:18.040
<v Speaker 1>give my girl a break. My girl needs to sit

0:31:18.120 --> 0:31:21.880
<v Speaker 1>down and like, have a cheeseburger and watch the television.

0:31:22.600 --> 0:31:25.440
<v Speaker 4>You know. I actually do remember this now, and I

0:31:25.520 --> 0:31:29.080
<v Speaker 4>think it was it was not long after we did

0:31:29.160 --> 0:31:33.240
<v Speaker 4>that movie. Yeah, it's it's a thing you know, we

0:31:33.360 --> 0:31:35.680
<v Speaker 4>all have our what do you call it, our act,

0:31:35.920 --> 0:31:42.240
<v Speaker 4>our thing, our Achilles heel. My addiction is work, and

0:31:42.560 --> 0:31:46.320
<v Speaker 4>so I have to constantly I'm there now, I'm actually

0:31:46.360 --> 0:31:49.000
<v Speaker 4>there right now. It's been forty one days and I

0:31:49.480 --> 0:31:52.040
<v Speaker 4>am there now. And now I know, like I don't

0:31:52.200 --> 0:32:01.440
<v Speaker 4>want to I want to enjoy the family and being

0:32:01.520 --> 0:32:04.840
<v Speaker 4>together with my people. And if you're always tired and

0:32:04.920 --> 0:32:08.920
<v Speaker 4>you're coming in, you know, exhausted, and it's not worth it.

0:32:09.080 --> 0:32:12.600
<v Speaker 4>And I have that problem saying no. That is my

0:32:12.760 --> 0:32:17.840
<v Speaker 4>biggest I'm sure a lot of women understand that. But yeah,

0:32:18.400 --> 0:32:21.160
<v Speaker 4>probably even on this podcast right here looking at y'all,

0:32:21.560 --> 0:32:24.080
<v Speaker 4>you probably understand it's like, oh, no, I can do

0:32:24.160 --> 0:32:26.480
<v Speaker 4>it all. I'm strong, I'm tough, I can do it all.

0:32:26.520 --> 0:32:27.720
<v Speaker 4>I should be able to do it all. But the

0:32:27.800 --> 0:32:30.880
<v Speaker 4>truth is, you just you can't continue to go at

0:32:30.880 --> 0:32:32.960
<v Speaker 4>a hundred miles an hour. No.

0:32:33.280 --> 0:32:33.760
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah.

0:32:47.760 --> 0:32:49.840
<v Speaker 2>I want to know then, Kristin, like, when you do

0:32:51.160 --> 0:32:53.480
<v Speaker 2>your self care, when you do have that moment where

0:32:53.480 --> 0:32:55.000
<v Speaker 2>you're like, I'm going to take care of myself.

0:32:56.240 --> 0:32:58.120
<v Speaker 3>What is it that you do? What do you like

0:32:58.240 --> 0:33:00.600
<v Speaker 3>to do when you're not working? How do you yeah,

0:33:00.680 --> 0:33:02.160
<v Speaker 3>how do you take care of yourself.

0:33:04.080 --> 0:33:07.080
<v Speaker 4>It's been a self discovery part for me because I

0:33:07.240 --> 0:33:11.280
<v Speaker 4>never would allow myself breaks. So in the past few

0:33:11.400 --> 0:33:13.680
<v Speaker 4>years I've learned to do that. And some of the

0:33:13.720 --> 0:33:16.480
<v Speaker 4>things I love to do, they're very silly. I like

0:33:16.560 --> 0:33:18.120
<v Speaker 4>to be dazzle. I'm pretty good at it.

0:33:18.640 --> 0:33:21.320
<v Speaker 3>No, I love that. I would love that too.

0:33:22.120 --> 0:33:24.800
<v Speaker 4>Yep. It's very intricate and I don't use a machine.

0:33:24.800 --> 0:33:28.360
<v Speaker 4>I do it by hand each stone. I love that obviously.

0:33:28.400 --> 0:33:31.480
<v Speaker 4>I love to read. I mean just to sit down

0:33:31.520 --> 0:33:34.080
<v Speaker 4>with a really good book and to have up thirty

0:33:34.160 --> 0:33:36.000
<v Speaker 4>minutes of it of your alone time to do it.

0:33:36.560 --> 0:33:39.240
<v Speaker 4>I am a small girl, who isn't I love that.

0:33:40.000 --> 0:33:44.160
<v Speaker 4>I like going to Cabo. I like that. I like music, music,

0:33:44.360 --> 0:33:47.880
<v Speaker 4>just putting on music and or anything on anything to

0:33:47.920 --> 0:33:50.000
<v Speaker 4>binge watch. But I'm like a lot of the rest

0:33:50.040 --> 0:33:51.720
<v Speaker 4>of the world and You've heard it a million times.

0:33:51.800 --> 0:33:52.680
<v Speaker 4>I love true crime.

0:33:53.440 --> 0:33:55.560
<v Speaker 3>I love true love true crime.

0:33:57.120 --> 0:34:01.000
<v Speaker 2>Jessica, I don't know if you like true crime because, like, honestly, Kristen,

0:34:01.360 --> 0:34:04.280
<v Speaker 2>just the sound of Forensic Files coming on my TV.

0:34:04.640 --> 0:34:08.080
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, it's like it calms me.

0:34:08.880 --> 0:34:09.120
<v Speaker 4>Same.

0:34:09.160 --> 0:34:09.840
<v Speaker 2>Have you watched it?

0:34:10.880 --> 0:34:15.040
<v Speaker 4>Dateline is my I watched John Benay, I now think

0:34:15.120 --> 0:34:17.279
<v Speaker 4>the parents did not. I don't think the family did

0:34:17.320 --> 0:34:17.799
<v Speaker 4>it at all.

0:34:18.000 --> 0:34:19.719
<v Speaker 2>I'm glad we're talking abent this. I don't think they

0:34:19.760 --> 0:34:22.080
<v Speaker 2>did either. But social media is back in it, and

0:34:22.200 --> 0:34:25.440
<v Speaker 2>they they have some questions. There were no few prints

0:34:25.520 --> 0:34:26.879
<v Speaker 2>going to them from the house.

0:34:26.920 --> 0:34:29.240
<v Speaker 3>This is all I know. That's my only fact.

0:34:29.440 --> 0:34:32.840
<v Speaker 4>But remember the police watched it. If you saw lou Smitt,

0:34:32.880 --> 0:34:36.279
<v Speaker 4>which is the detective that was hired to do the case,

0:34:36.320 --> 0:34:39.360
<v Speaker 4>if you saw his back case, you would understand that

0:34:39.800 --> 0:34:42.080
<v Speaker 4>this poor And you know every time it comes up

0:34:42.120 --> 0:34:44.360
<v Speaker 4>in this port it's the sun did it and works

0:34:44.400 --> 0:34:45.000
<v Speaker 4>on dateline.

0:34:45.040 --> 0:34:46.400
<v Speaker 3>Oh, I know what you know.

0:34:46.560 --> 0:34:49.640
<v Speaker 4>I just feel bad for that family. Also, I don't

0:34:49.640 --> 0:34:52.640
<v Speaker 4>know if you're into it, if you've watched the menandas.

0:34:53.680 --> 0:35:01.000
<v Speaker 3>Monsters in fully in, I can't get close. I'm in. Kristin,

0:35:04.000 --> 0:35:04.640
<v Speaker 3>what do you think?

0:35:04.760 --> 0:35:05.800
<v Speaker 4>Should they be released?

0:35:05.840 --> 0:35:08.439
<v Speaker 3>They did get them out of there, Kristin, get them out?

0:35:09.120 --> 0:35:11.400
<v Speaker 4>Why do you think this? Why do you think it?

0:35:11.520 --> 0:35:12.279
<v Speaker 4>I just want to talk.

0:35:12.400 --> 0:35:14.160
<v Speaker 2>Can I tell you something really creepy that I haven't

0:35:14.160 --> 0:35:17.120
<v Speaker 2>admitted to anybody. I was driving to Beverly Hills and

0:35:17.200 --> 0:35:19.279
<v Speaker 2>I had to I looked up the house I drove by.

0:35:19.680 --> 0:35:21.160
<v Speaker 4>I drove by it myself last time I was there.

0:35:22.520 --> 0:35:24.840
<v Speaker 3>It's all black, Kristin. It was probably me and you

0:35:25.080 --> 0:35:29.440
<v Speaker 3>outside it parked. If we probably had a picture somewhere

0:35:29.480 --> 0:35:29.799
<v Speaker 3>with us.

0:35:29.880 --> 0:35:33.960
<v Speaker 2>Just like looking from our cars, I would there was construction,

0:35:34.120 --> 0:35:36.400
<v Speaker 2>Oh you would. When I I had no shame. It

0:35:36.520 --> 0:35:40.000
<v Speaker 2>was it was like two pm. People were out taking pictures.

0:35:40.080 --> 0:35:42.239
<v Speaker 2>There's a little construction going on when I was there,

0:35:42.239 --> 0:35:45.120
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, but yeah, well construction, yeah, the stone construction.

0:35:45.600 --> 0:35:49.160
<v Speaker 3>Oh my goodness, you too. Were you sleuthing or were

0:35:49.239 --> 0:35:51.560
<v Speaker 3>you just like you just wanted to see it.

0:35:51.880 --> 0:35:53.560
<v Speaker 4>Well, I don't know how you felt, Camela, But I

0:35:53.680 --> 0:35:56.680
<v Speaker 4>needed to revisit because I had seen that Ryan Murphy thing.

0:35:57.040 --> 0:36:00.959
<v Speaker 4>I'd seen the Real Life menandas you know, the true

0:36:01.040 --> 0:36:04.200
<v Speaker 4>crime documentary. Yeah, I thought I just need to see

0:36:04.239 --> 0:36:04.600
<v Speaker 4>the house.

0:36:04.760 --> 0:36:06.440
<v Speaker 3>I needed to see it. I needed to make some

0:36:07.040 --> 0:36:09.200
<v Speaker 3>decisions for myself as to how I felt.

0:36:09.960 --> 0:36:13.120
<v Speaker 2>Again from the car outside, it's sort of like my

0:36:13.239 --> 0:36:15.760
<v Speaker 2>own It's like my own personal investigation happened.

0:36:16.640 --> 0:36:19.480
<v Speaker 3>And I sat there and I thought, should they should

0:36:19.719 --> 0:36:20.319
<v Speaker 3>be let out?

0:36:21.200 --> 0:36:23.560
<v Speaker 4>What do you think they shot their parents? I mean,

0:36:23.640 --> 0:36:25.400
<v Speaker 4>it's horrible, right, it's horrible.

0:36:25.120 --> 0:36:27.239
<v Speaker 2>But I think they've paid for their crime. They've gone

0:36:27.239 --> 0:36:29.399
<v Speaker 2>to jail for a really long time, and I think

0:36:29.480 --> 0:36:33.839
<v Speaker 2>that the abuse was so heinous that I don't think

0:36:33.840 --> 0:36:35.960
<v Speaker 2>there are a threat to society and I think they've

0:36:36.000 --> 0:36:37.160
<v Speaker 2>paid their duties either.

0:36:37.239 --> 0:36:39.040
<v Speaker 4>I don't think Camilla that they'll get out and do

0:36:39.120 --> 0:36:42.839
<v Speaker 4>anything bad or naughty. I just think I don't want

0:36:42.880 --> 0:36:46.600
<v Speaker 4>it to be a message to others like, hey, you

0:36:46.680 --> 0:36:48.480
<v Speaker 4>get abused, you want to blow your parents away, You

0:36:48.600 --> 0:36:50.919
<v Speaker 4>might get out one day too. But do I think

0:36:51.040 --> 0:36:52.920
<v Speaker 4>that they've been in there for I think it was

0:36:52.960 --> 0:36:55.839
<v Speaker 4>a different time. I remember it was o J. Yeah.

0:36:56.200 --> 0:36:58.400
<v Speaker 3>By the way, that's what I've driven by. Is that

0:36:58.560 --> 0:36:59.640
<v Speaker 3>a part? What have you driven by?

0:36:59.719 --> 0:36:59.920
<v Speaker 4>The car?

0:37:00.040 --> 0:37:03.839
<v Speaker 3>Are no in Brentwood? Hurts the house?

0:37:03.960 --> 0:37:07.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Nicole bron Simpson's. It was a little like DUPLEXI

0:37:07.200 --> 0:37:09.479
<v Speaker 1>condo e thing like. It was like five minutes away

0:37:09.520 --> 0:37:12.320
<v Speaker 1>from where I lived in high school, and it was

0:37:12.400 --> 0:37:15.400
<v Speaker 1>I mean the entire listen my high school graduation. I

0:37:15.480 --> 0:37:17.560
<v Speaker 1>think it was the day that they were they were

0:37:17.600 --> 0:37:23.080
<v Speaker 1>following the Bronco No yes, yes, yes, yes, there was

0:37:23.200 --> 0:37:26.120
<v Speaker 1>like you know, televised the I can't imagine living in

0:37:26.320 --> 0:37:28.760
<v Speaker 1>LA when that was happening, and it was five minutes

0:37:28.760 --> 0:37:30.400
<v Speaker 1>from my house, so yes, we drove by, but for

0:37:30.480 --> 0:37:32.600
<v Speaker 1>a long time it was really like the road was closed.

0:37:33.320 --> 0:37:36.040
<v Speaker 1>And then and that house didn't get it didn't get

0:37:36.120 --> 0:37:37.839
<v Speaker 1>knocked down. That's still there. Someone lives there.

0:37:38.000 --> 0:37:40.000
<v Speaker 2>Well, it's crazy that that someone clearly lives in the

0:37:40.040 --> 0:37:43.359
<v Speaker 2>Menendez house. Oh, I mean it's still there.

0:37:43.760 --> 0:37:44.120
<v Speaker 4>Knew that.

0:37:45.880 --> 0:37:48.520
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you know what, This is completely.

0:37:48.160 --> 0:37:49.919
<v Speaker 2>Off subject, but this is what I asked my brother

0:37:50.000 --> 0:37:52.040
<v Speaker 2>because I told him I duramed by there. I said,

0:37:52.520 --> 0:37:56.160
<v Speaker 2>would you ever live in a house that you knew

0:37:56.760 --> 0:38:00.480
<v Speaker 2>a murder had taken place in? And I don't care

0:38:00.520 --> 0:38:04.280
<v Speaker 2>how many ghosts are in there? It's a sixth bedroom.

0:38:07.560 --> 0:38:10.719
<v Speaker 3>He doesn't care. He doesn't care, he doesn't care.

0:38:11.080 --> 0:38:13.759
<v Speaker 4>I'm glad that you like the crime too.

0:38:14.280 --> 0:38:14.680
<v Speaker 3>I love.

0:38:15.640 --> 0:38:17.400
<v Speaker 1>The only one that I got really into was in

0:38:17.440 --> 0:38:19.960
<v Speaker 1>the beginning, and actually it was podcast which was cereal.

0:38:20.600 --> 0:38:20.799
<v Speaker 4>Hello.

0:38:20.920 --> 0:38:22.799
<v Speaker 3>Did you ever listen to that? The early one?

0:38:23.200 --> 0:38:23.359
<v Speaker 4>Yes?

0:38:23.440 --> 0:38:24.600
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Kristen.

0:38:24.680 --> 0:38:27.080
<v Speaker 2>Do you know we're going to tell you we Jessica

0:38:27.080 --> 0:38:29.640
<v Speaker 2>and I kind of part of a true crime documentary

0:38:29.680 --> 0:38:30.400
<v Speaker 2>that's out right now.

0:38:31.880 --> 0:38:33.480
<v Speaker 3>You don't know. I'm gonna let Jessica tell you it.

0:38:33.520 --> 0:38:35.200
<v Speaker 2>Because I don't even know if I want to promote it,

0:38:35.280 --> 0:38:37.239
<v Speaker 2>to be honest, but we are part of something and

0:38:37.320 --> 0:38:39.960
<v Speaker 2>it's well, Jess, you got to drop her the deats.

0:38:40.280 --> 0:38:42.360
<v Speaker 1>We talked to Dan Bukatinski about it as well, because

0:38:42.520 --> 0:38:44.239
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you know this about him, but

0:38:44.560 --> 0:38:47.640
<v Speaker 1>we met him, well, I met him a couple times

0:38:47.680 --> 0:38:49.399
<v Speaker 1>with his husband, with Don and all that. But then

0:38:49.560 --> 0:38:53.239
<v Speaker 1>he came to Grays as a writer and he was

0:38:53.280 --> 0:38:56.760
<v Speaker 1>on the writing staff with a woman named Elizabeth Finch,

0:38:57.440 --> 0:38:59.919
<v Speaker 1>who there has recently been a documentary about who based

0:39:00.320 --> 0:39:06.840
<v Speaker 1>fabricated entire art of her life, including surviving cancer, surviving

0:39:07.320 --> 0:39:10.239
<v Speaker 1>just a lot, a lot, but she completely lied about

0:39:10.320 --> 0:39:12.880
<v Speaker 1>all of it and was in like real relationship and

0:39:12.960 --> 0:39:14.520
<v Speaker 1>friendship the way that we all are when we're on

0:39:14.640 --> 0:39:16.000
<v Speaker 1>sets and sitting by chairs, and.

0:39:16.120 --> 0:39:18.880
<v Speaker 3>For years, like we were very close to her for

0:39:19.160 --> 0:39:20.280
<v Speaker 3>years years.

0:39:20.600 --> 0:39:22.200
<v Speaker 4>How did we not start the interview with this?

0:39:24.280 --> 0:39:26.080
<v Speaker 3>We had to, We had to eat to ease you

0:39:26.200 --> 0:39:29.319
<v Speaker 3>in with We needed your trust, she needed your trust first.

0:39:29.680 --> 0:39:31.800
<v Speaker 4>You got my trust. But like I've seen the commercials

0:39:31.840 --> 0:39:35.960
<v Speaker 4>about the Finch girl, Yeah, classic narcissism.

0:39:36.239 --> 0:39:39.360
<v Speaker 3>I'm not yeah, oh well, yeah, I don't know. I

0:39:39.480 --> 0:39:40.880
<v Speaker 3>don't know. I have opinions.

0:39:41.120 --> 0:39:42.400
<v Speaker 2>I'm not going to stay it on the pod, but

0:39:42.480 --> 0:39:45.040
<v Speaker 2>we will all grab wine and we will we will

0:39:45.320 --> 0:39:46.480
<v Speaker 2>discuss what I think.

0:39:47.000 --> 0:39:51.160
<v Speaker 4>Okay, you know there's always I shouldn't say this. When

0:39:51.200 --> 0:39:53.600
<v Speaker 4>I first hit it in the in the small way

0:39:53.680 --> 0:39:56.280
<v Speaker 4>that I did with Wicked, there was a girl.

0:39:56.200 --> 0:39:59.920
<v Speaker 3>That musical did. What is that musical? Yes, you know

0:40:00.040 --> 0:40:05.480
<v Speaker 3>it's a long time off off off Broadway, that's right.

0:40:06.520 --> 0:40:09.239
<v Speaker 4>I was a girl. I can't say her name because

0:40:09.239 --> 0:40:10.920
<v Speaker 4>she ended up. Did she get to go to prison?

0:40:11.000 --> 0:40:13.560
<v Speaker 4>But she she started out telling me that she had

0:40:13.960 --> 0:40:16.600
<v Speaker 4>She she would come to the show every night and

0:40:16.840 --> 0:40:19.520
<v Speaker 4>she would sit in the same seat or near around,

0:40:19.680 --> 0:40:21.640
<v Speaker 4>you know, the same area, and she would come to

0:40:21.719 --> 0:40:24.560
<v Speaker 4>the State Shore. And I got to know her because

0:40:24.600 --> 0:40:26.680
<v Speaker 4>I would see her every night. And then she would

0:40:26.719 --> 0:40:30.360
<v Speaker 4>start leaving. She would start leaving me small gifts and

0:40:30.800 --> 0:40:33.319
<v Speaker 4>I would go, oh, my gosh, thank you X, thank

0:40:33.360 --> 0:40:35.760
<v Speaker 4>you so much for the gift. And then it started

0:40:35.800 --> 0:40:38.239
<v Speaker 4>becoming like a Louis Vuitton purse. And I was like,

0:40:39.040 --> 0:40:41.680
<v Speaker 4>I said, oh, I can't accept that, but inside I

0:40:41.800 --> 0:40:46.200
<v Speaker 4>wanted to so bad obviously, and then she she said, no,

0:40:46.520 --> 0:40:48.680
<v Speaker 4>I want you to have it. And then the next

0:40:48.719 --> 0:40:52.840
<v Speaker 4>week it'd be like a Valentino shawl and I'm like, I.

0:40:52.840 --> 0:40:54.640
<v Speaker 3>Have the name and the number. I need her.

0:40:55.320 --> 0:40:59.160
<v Speaker 4>Oh yes, I'm telling you possibly as I'm taking it

0:40:59.239 --> 0:40:59.880
<v Speaker 4>from her hands.

0:41:00.120 --> 0:41:00.600
<v Speaker 3>Yeah yeah.

0:41:00.880 --> 0:41:04.960
<v Speaker 4>And it got to where she became in my in

0:41:05.120 --> 0:41:06.680
<v Speaker 4>my group, you know, she was there every night, and

0:41:06.719 --> 0:41:11.480
<v Speaker 4>then she got herself backstage everybody, and then she loaded

0:41:11.520 --> 0:41:14.080
<v Speaker 4>on me that she had liver cancer and that she

0:41:14.160 --> 0:41:16.560
<v Speaker 4>didn't have long to live. Now a lot of people

0:41:17.000 --> 0:41:19.719
<v Speaker 4>in our industry have had this happen to them, but

0:41:19.920 --> 0:41:22.279
<v Speaker 4>I was so sad for her and how can I

0:41:22.400 --> 0:41:25.680
<v Speaker 4>help and what can I do? And I did a

0:41:26.040 --> 0:41:29.800
<v Speaker 4>benefit concert for her to help her raise money for

0:41:29.920 --> 0:41:34.960
<v Speaker 4>her for her come to find out she wasn't sick

0:41:35.000 --> 0:41:38.239
<v Speaker 4>at all, and she'd done this to me. I think

0:41:38.320 --> 0:41:42.560
<v Speaker 4>Kirsten Dunce and the actress Cherry Jones, and she's professional,

0:41:42.920 --> 0:41:48.480
<v Speaker 4>I guess, grifter, like yeah, all this stuff, and I

0:41:48.600 --> 0:41:51.880
<v Speaker 4>think this Finch girl might thought there's something that happens.

0:41:51.960 --> 0:41:54.359
<v Speaker 4>They get in with your that they're ill and then

0:41:54.400 --> 0:41:57.000
<v Speaker 4>they get you in that way. And of course who

0:41:58.000 --> 0:42:01.320
<v Speaker 4>I'm sure imagining that you all can and you felt

0:42:01.440 --> 0:42:03.120
<v Speaker 4>that like, well, that's what.

0:42:03.200 --> 0:42:05.000
<v Speaker 1>We said was that you were never It was a

0:42:05.080 --> 0:42:08.120
<v Speaker 1>perfect crime, right, because you're never going to say to

0:42:08.200 --> 0:42:11.960
<v Speaker 1>someone never are Is that true? Is that true that

0:42:12.080 --> 0:42:14.800
<v Speaker 1>you that this awful thing happened. You're never going to

0:42:14.880 --> 0:42:15.080
<v Speaker 1>do that.

0:42:15.280 --> 0:42:15.440
<v Speaker 4>Never.

0:42:15.719 --> 0:42:17.760
<v Speaker 3>That's wild that you did a concert.

0:42:17.880 --> 0:42:19.480
<v Speaker 2>You know what's scary about this is the more we

0:42:19.640 --> 0:42:22.239
<v Speaker 2>talk about this, the more people have experiences with this,

0:42:22.480 --> 0:42:24.880
<v Speaker 2>you think it's so crazy that, like, this is so

0:42:25.080 --> 0:42:27.960
<v Speaker 2>incredibly rare, and then you realize Dan had knew somebody

0:42:28.080 --> 0:42:31.440
<v Speaker 2>else I had done this too, But yes, he and

0:42:31.560 --> 0:42:33.480
<v Speaker 2>don Yes, you know.

0:42:33.600 --> 0:42:35.920
<v Speaker 4>It is very common, and I think they must want

0:42:35.920 --> 0:42:37.520
<v Speaker 4>to look for a way in. And what I want

0:42:37.560 --> 0:42:40.600
<v Speaker 4>to say to them is just be yourselves. And by

0:42:40.640 --> 0:42:45.279
<v Speaker 4>the way, you don't it's not you know, we're going

0:42:45.360 --> 0:42:46.800
<v Speaker 4>to get to know who, We're going to get to know,

0:42:47.239 --> 0:42:49.800
<v Speaker 4>and it's going to happen the way organically, or it

0:42:49.920 --> 0:42:52.200
<v Speaker 4>might not just happen. It's just we're in the public eye.

0:42:52.280 --> 0:42:54.960
<v Speaker 4>And I don't even know why I'm trying to say.

0:42:55.520 --> 0:42:57.640
<v Speaker 4>I felt so bad for her, and then I got

0:42:57.800 --> 0:43:01.560
<v Speaker 4>so duped and then now what unfortunately it has done.

0:43:01.560 --> 0:43:03.200
<v Speaker 4>And I'm sure you know what I mean. Where I'm

0:43:03.200 --> 0:43:07.080
<v Speaker 4>going with this anytime someone says to me, like they'll

0:43:07.120 --> 0:43:10.480
<v Speaker 4>make me backstage or after a premiere or something and

0:43:10.520 --> 0:43:13.400
<v Speaker 4>they'll say, you know, I too, I have a thing

0:43:13.480 --> 0:43:15.680
<v Speaker 4>called Theeer's disease. It doesn't matter what CAPS knows. It's

0:43:15.719 --> 0:43:16.200
<v Speaker 4>like vertigo.

0:43:16.719 --> 0:43:18.560
<v Speaker 3>I know what that is because I have tonight is

0:43:19.600 --> 0:43:21.920
<v Speaker 3>how are you doing? I'm doing good.

0:43:21.920 --> 0:43:22.200
<v Speaker 2>We had it.

0:43:22.280 --> 0:43:24.000
<v Speaker 3>We actually had a whole episode on this. But I

0:43:24.160 --> 0:43:26.120
<v Speaker 3>know that that is that can be part of it,

0:43:26.400 --> 0:43:30.800
<v Speaker 3>and I I yeah, so I I know all about that.

0:43:31.000 --> 0:43:32.759
<v Speaker 3>But anyway, I will let you continue to storry.

0:43:32.800 --> 0:43:34.480
<v Speaker 4>But I do know what that is that you know,

0:43:35.239 --> 0:43:37.640
<v Speaker 4>you don't have to have my disease or you don't

0:43:37.719 --> 0:43:40.120
<v Speaker 4>have to. That's not a way in. That should never

0:43:40.200 --> 0:43:43.080
<v Speaker 4>be a way in anybody. I didn't you know tonight

0:43:43.160 --> 0:43:46.719
<v Speaker 4>is that comes with mineers. So I'm sorry that you

0:43:46.880 --> 0:43:47.160
<v Speaker 4>have that.

0:43:48.000 --> 0:43:50.560
<v Speaker 2>That's okay, I know it, and that's okay. You know

0:43:50.640 --> 0:43:55.759
<v Speaker 2>what I've I you It becomes normal, it comes par

0:43:55.920 --> 0:44:03.360
<v Speaker 2>your life. We can't you go without talking about Wicked,

0:44:04.160 --> 0:44:05.360
<v Speaker 2>of course, I.

0:44:05.520 --> 0:44:07.239
<v Speaker 4>Mean we must because we have to.

0:44:08.000 --> 0:44:08.520
<v Speaker 3>We must be.

0:44:08.880 --> 0:44:13.080
<v Speaker 1>We have because you're the original, because you originated this

0:44:13.400 --> 0:44:18.640
<v Speaker 1>glorious character, and you gave so much to it and

0:44:18.920 --> 0:44:24.160
<v Speaker 1>and you are like, You're an impossible standard to meet,

0:44:24.400 --> 0:44:29.320
<v Speaker 1>but you are. You set Glinda as this incredible standard.

0:44:29.520 --> 0:44:33.240
<v Speaker 1>And and somehow as we're seeing this now in movie theaters,

0:44:33.280 --> 0:44:36.759
<v Speaker 1>which is so incredible, and I love those two performers.

0:44:36.840 --> 0:44:38.560
<v Speaker 3>I love the movie so much.

0:44:39.120 --> 0:44:43.279
<v Speaker 1>The music is I mean, just gonna I'm gonna go

0:44:43.360 --> 0:44:45.000
<v Speaker 1>against and swim against the grain here.

0:44:45.719 --> 0:44:47.320
<v Speaker 3>When I went to go see the movie, I was like,

0:44:47.440 --> 0:44:49.279
<v Speaker 3>I know this music, like it's gonna be great.

0:44:49.320 --> 0:44:51.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure, but like I know it like it's not

0:44:51.239 --> 0:44:53.080
<v Speaker 1>gonna it's not gonna be you know, it's not gonna

0:44:53.080 --> 0:44:56.080
<v Speaker 1>be like that first time that I heard it and whatever, it's.

0:44:56.000 --> 0:44:59.080
<v Speaker 3>Gonna be fine. I go see the movie. I loved it.

0:44:59.560 --> 0:45:01.120
<v Speaker 1>I love but I still was like, I know, I

0:45:01.239 --> 0:45:04.800
<v Speaker 1>know the music. I have not stopped singing the music.

0:45:05.200 --> 0:45:07.279
<v Speaker 1>The girls have been like, can you put that on again?

0:45:07.360 --> 0:45:09.879
<v Speaker 1>Can we do define gravity again? Can we do popular again?

0:45:10.360 --> 0:45:13.120
<v Speaker 2>And now I'm like, yes we can. You know we

0:45:13.200 --> 0:45:17.400
<v Speaker 2>can do it on uh loop, Let's just keep doing it. So, Kristin,

0:45:17.440 --> 0:45:19.320
<v Speaker 2>I want to ask you because you made a comment. Okay,

0:45:19.480 --> 0:45:23.799
<v Speaker 2>So the Ariana and Cynthia have been getting a little

0:45:24.880 --> 0:45:27.640
<v Speaker 2>they've been getting some crap right for the press tour

0:45:27.920 --> 0:45:31.719
<v Speaker 2>and them being so mushy with each other, and I

0:45:31.960 --> 0:45:34.960
<v Speaker 2>love it. I'm hook line and Sinker for I love it.

0:45:35.120 --> 0:45:39.160
<v Speaker 2>I think I think their bond is incredible. And I

0:45:39.360 --> 0:45:43.200
<v Speaker 2>read that you made a comment that you said, that

0:45:43.680 --> 0:45:47.720
<v Speaker 2>is the bond that you end up having playing these characters,

0:45:47.880 --> 0:45:49.440
<v Speaker 2>like you totally get it.

0:45:50.520 --> 0:45:51.920
<v Speaker 3>Can you speak to that a little bit.

0:45:52.360 --> 0:45:56.960
<v Speaker 4>There's only one other person on this planet that understands

0:45:57.560 --> 0:46:00.760
<v Speaker 4>what it was like creating those parts, and that's Dina Monzelle.

0:46:01.640 --> 0:46:05.960
<v Speaker 4>And we you know, this was before girls be together,

0:46:06.400 --> 0:46:09.719
<v Speaker 4>girls supporting each other. This was before me too. This

0:46:10.080 --> 0:46:16.239
<v Speaker 4>was and there we found ourselves very different actors but

0:46:16.960 --> 0:46:21.279
<v Speaker 4>coming together. And I mean, I don't I don't want

0:46:21.280 --> 0:46:23.040
<v Speaker 4>to say this about us, but I will say it

0:46:23.040 --> 0:46:26.920
<v Speaker 4>about it. We created magic together. And when I her,

0:46:27.080 --> 0:46:30.600
<v Speaker 4>when I look at her across the room, only she

0:46:30.760 --> 0:46:36.480
<v Speaker 4>and I know what it was and on stage and

0:46:36.560 --> 0:46:39.799
<v Speaker 4>how we and so we have this feeling of, oh,

0:46:39.880 --> 0:46:42.919
<v Speaker 4>please let it be a wonderful movie. And I've said

0:46:42.960 --> 0:46:46.200
<v Speaker 4>this story many times because it's the truth. Ari came

0:46:46.280 --> 0:46:50.279
<v Speaker 4>backstage and when she was ten to meet me, and

0:46:50.480 --> 0:46:53.480
<v Speaker 4>that she was with her grandma Nonah and I met

0:46:53.560 --> 0:46:55.840
<v Speaker 4>her and she said, I want to thank Glinda and

0:46:55.960 --> 0:47:01.760
<v Speaker 4>I said, oh, okay, here we go. Her grandmother said

0:47:02.040 --> 0:47:04.759
<v Speaker 4>you should. You should hear her sing and she kind

0:47:04.800 --> 0:47:08.320
<v Speaker 4>of sang something. I went whoa. I went whoa, and

0:47:09.000 --> 0:47:12.600
<v Speaker 4>we became That's when our relationship started when she was ten.

0:47:13.040 --> 0:47:15.879
<v Speaker 4>We we've worked together before. I've been in her life

0:47:15.920 --> 0:47:18.160
<v Speaker 4>for a long time. I remember her calling me saying,

0:47:18.239 --> 0:47:20.200
<v Speaker 4>I have this, I have this all I wanted to

0:47:20.440 --> 0:47:22.680
<v Speaker 4>play for you, and it was thank you. Next, I

0:47:23.120 --> 0:47:26.600
<v Speaker 4>think you're going to be fine. And then she called

0:47:26.640 --> 0:47:31.399
<v Speaker 4>me and said that's what I'm auditioning for Gwindo here

0:47:31.440 --> 0:47:34.520
<v Speaker 4>in COVID and I and she goes, what do I do?

0:47:35.200 --> 0:47:39.960
<v Speaker 4>I said, you're you? Do you? I just remember saying

0:47:40.280 --> 0:47:43.520
<v Speaker 4>I knew don't touch her, like, just don't just let

0:47:43.600 --> 0:47:46.040
<v Speaker 4>her do it because she's so gifted. I didn't want

0:47:46.080 --> 0:47:48.080
<v Speaker 4>to mess with it, and she didn't really ask me to,

0:47:48.200 --> 0:47:49.919
<v Speaker 4>but she did say what do I do? And I said,

0:47:50.080 --> 0:47:52.719
<v Speaker 4>just be you? And then she called me. I got

0:47:52.760 --> 0:47:55.479
<v Speaker 4>the call back and then of course she gets the part.

0:47:56.040 --> 0:47:59.880
<v Speaker 4>And then I went to the New York we had this.

0:48:00.080 --> 0:48:02.360
<v Speaker 4>They had a screening for the Broadway community, which I

0:48:02.520 --> 0:48:05.759
<v Speaker 4>thought was very lovely that Universal did that. But she

0:48:06.360 --> 0:48:10.640
<v Speaker 4>was holding my hand through the movie. I was talking

0:48:10.719 --> 0:48:14.160
<v Speaker 4>with her a lot through the process, but I think

0:48:14.280 --> 0:48:18.840
<v Speaker 4>she just wanted to hold my hand. And after the

0:48:18.920 --> 0:48:21.840
<v Speaker 4>movie she I was bald. I was bawling through the

0:48:21.880 --> 0:48:26.719
<v Speaker 4>whole thing, just bawling. And that's that's the truth. And

0:48:26.880 --> 0:48:29.719
<v Speaker 4>after the movie she said, are you proud of me?

0:48:30.560 --> 0:48:32.759
<v Speaker 3>Oh my god, I'm getting so emotional listening to this

0:48:32.920 --> 0:48:34.120
<v Speaker 3>right now, and I'm.

0:48:34.040 --> 0:48:38.000
<v Speaker 4>So proud of you. Are you? I'm so proud of you?

0:48:38.480 --> 0:48:42.320
<v Speaker 4>I mean, what could I say? She was wonderful, she added,

0:48:42.440 --> 0:48:45.680
<v Speaker 4>she paid homage to me, but she did her own thing,

0:48:46.480 --> 0:48:50.680
<v Speaker 4>just like Cynthia did with Adena. And recently, Adena and

0:48:50.719 --> 0:48:53.759
<v Speaker 4>I were at the La premiere and we both we

0:48:53.880 --> 0:48:55.399
<v Speaker 4>were on the red carpet. We just looked at each

0:48:55.400 --> 0:48:59.560
<v Speaker 4>other and went, wow. You know, you think maybe something

0:48:59.600 --> 0:49:02.719
<v Speaker 4>that you will be in once, maybe will land on

0:49:02.840 --> 0:49:06.799
<v Speaker 4>the earth and maybe someone will remember it. But never

0:49:06.920 --> 0:49:09.080
<v Speaker 4>did I think I would be alive to see it.

0:49:09.360 --> 0:49:13.200
<v Speaker 4>And you know, it's a it's I'm very grateful. I'm

0:49:13.400 --> 0:49:15.440
<v Speaker 4>very grateful for it. I'm grateful it was in the

0:49:15.560 --> 0:49:17.959
<v Speaker 4>hands of John Chu that it was in the hands

0:49:18.000 --> 0:49:22.160
<v Speaker 4>of Ariana Grande and Cynthia Rivo, who didn't just not

0:49:22.360 --> 0:49:25.120
<v Speaker 4>disappoint but and I believe me, I'm not getting paid.

0:49:25.920 --> 0:49:28.560
<v Speaker 4>I only speak from the from my heart. And I

0:49:28.760 --> 0:49:31.800
<v Speaker 4>was so, oh, my gosh, so proud of them, and

0:49:32.760 --> 0:49:37.400
<v Speaker 4>it was finally a release of I didn't and now

0:49:37.440 --> 0:49:38.640
<v Speaker 4>they're doing theirs, you know.

0:49:39.120 --> 0:49:58.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, when you talk about the origin story and being

0:49:58.640 --> 0:50:04.480
<v Speaker 1>there with a Dina and creating these parts, I think

0:50:04.520 --> 0:50:06.799
<v Speaker 1>it's probably too simple to ask if it was hard.

0:50:07.200 --> 0:50:15.279
<v Speaker 3>But when you were talking, I felt from you that

0:50:15.400 --> 0:50:17.560
<v Speaker 3>there's story there, like putting it together?

0:50:17.880 --> 0:50:20.080
<v Speaker 1>Was it because we just see the final product, We

0:50:20.200 --> 0:50:22.400
<v Speaker 1>just see the oh, I mean like we see the

0:50:22.600 --> 0:50:25.000
<v Speaker 1>we see the grandness and the beauty and all that.

0:50:25.160 --> 0:50:26.800
<v Speaker 3>But like when you were first doing it and you

0:50:26.840 --> 0:50:29.479
<v Speaker 3>were in rehearsals, was it was it hard?

0:50:30.280 --> 0:50:31.760
<v Speaker 4>Yeah? Remember we had no template.

0:50:32.000 --> 0:50:32.560
<v Speaker 3>What do you mean?

0:50:33.080 --> 0:50:35.240
<v Speaker 4>We had no There was no movie. There was a book,

0:50:35.320 --> 0:50:40.719
<v Speaker 4>but nothing like the musical. And I remember for a

0:50:40.800 --> 0:50:44.000
<v Speaker 4>long time it felt like, I mean, we were together,

0:50:44.160 --> 0:50:46.120
<v Speaker 4>but she was in her corner and I was in mine.

0:50:46.200 --> 0:50:48.600
<v Speaker 4>We were trying to figure out our own parts and

0:50:48.719 --> 0:50:51.759
<v Speaker 4>then we would come together and I just want to

0:50:51.960 --> 0:50:56.719
<v Speaker 4>brag on her for a second. She really you know,

0:50:57.040 --> 0:50:59.320
<v Speaker 4>I had to be a lot of the comedic relief

0:50:59.400 --> 0:51:01.960
<v Speaker 4>in that. And then and at the end, Glinda grows

0:51:02.000 --> 0:51:05.040
<v Speaker 4>and there's a lot of depth there, but a Dina.

0:51:05.120 --> 0:51:08.719
<v Speaker 4>You know, there's there's something that we're hearing over and

0:51:08.880 --> 0:51:12.000
<v Speaker 4>over right now, and it's the battle cry. I want

0:51:12.040 --> 0:51:14.200
<v Speaker 4>to make sure everybody knows how that was born, because

0:51:14.239 --> 0:51:18.839
<v Speaker 4>she probably wouldn't say it, but it was the We've

0:51:18.880 --> 0:51:21.919
<v Speaker 4>all heard it a million times. Yeah. I remember being

0:51:21.960 --> 0:51:25.040
<v Speaker 4>in rehearsal and I had listen. I had been given

0:51:25.120 --> 0:51:29.360
<v Speaker 4>free reign to do Glinda, and I did to the

0:51:29.480 --> 0:51:32.359
<v Speaker 4>nth degree and even wrote some of the lines. I mean,

0:51:32.400 --> 0:51:36.000
<v Speaker 4>I was busy. I was busy, but I remember the

0:51:36.120 --> 0:51:41.040
<v Speaker 4>day in rehearsal, Dina just been given the chance to

0:51:41.480 --> 0:51:44.680
<v Speaker 4>be green for a second for the first time, and

0:51:44.840 --> 0:51:47.840
<v Speaker 4>she was doing fine gravity and I remember at the

0:51:47.960 --> 0:51:54.120
<v Speaker 4>end it's not written, Ah, it's not written. I just

0:51:54.239 --> 0:52:02.880
<v Speaker 4>remember going let me down. Ah. And I want it

0:52:02.960 --> 0:52:07.319
<v Speaker 4>to be known that, you know, there's things I bore,

0:52:07.440 --> 0:52:10.520
<v Speaker 4>the hair flip, the dialogue, there's things I did, but

0:52:12.600 --> 0:52:15.799
<v Speaker 4>that's us together, and that's you know, that was us

0:52:15.920 --> 0:52:20.200
<v Speaker 4>being given free rein and was it always easy? No,

0:52:20.400 --> 0:52:24.960
<v Speaker 4>we had no, we had no, we didn't know what

0:52:25.000 --> 0:52:27.640
<v Speaker 4>we're doing. We opened it in San Francisco, and I

0:52:27.760 --> 0:52:32.360
<v Speaker 4>remember after coming down in the bubble and then define gravity.

0:52:32.400 --> 0:52:35.560
<v Speaker 4>I went to her intermission and I said, it ain't

0:52:35.600 --> 0:52:39.600
<v Speaker 4>gonna matter what the critics say, as the people love it.

0:52:39.719 --> 0:52:43.480
<v Speaker 4>And she was she was, oh, my god, great about

0:52:43.880 --> 0:52:45.800
<v Speaker 4>am I sounding good? Am I doing good? Shit was

0:52:45.840 --> 0:52:47.279
<v Speaker 4>amazing all the time.

0:52:47.719 --> 0:52:50.160
<v Speaker 1>By the way, pause right there right, someone who we

0:52:50.280 --> 0:52:55.560
<v Speaker 1>all know as magnificent was wondering if she was okay, Like.

0:52:56.239 --> 0:52:59.680
<v Speaker 3>We all have self doubt, we all doubt ourselves.

0:53:00.320 --> 0:53:03.120
<v Speaker 4>Hello, I was like, is it funny? Listen, no matter

0:53:03.200 --> 0:53:05.560
<v Speaker 4>who you are, no matter who you are, you're going

0:53:05.640 --> 0:53:08.640
<v Speaker 4>to question. That's I think that's one of the things

0:53:08.680 --> 0:53:11.799
<v Speaker 4>that makes people great is that they hearn so much,

0:53:12.440 --> 0:53:14.200
<v Speaker 4>they care so much, and then ultimately you have to

0:53:14.280 --> 0:53:19.400
<v Speaker 4>shud that and go it doesn't matter. I'm gonna do it.

0:53:20.080 --> 0:53:22.880
<v Speaker 4>And so when I hear Cynthia doing her version of that,

0:53:23.040 --> 0:53:26.600
<v Speaker 4>which is very different, I think I know where that

0:53:26.760 --> 0:53:32.239
<v Speaker 4>was born. And then Cynthia is allowed to come into

0:53:32.360 --> 0:53:35.920
<v Speaker 4>hers It's the passing of the broom, so to speak.

0:53:36.040 --> 0:53:39.640
<v Speaker 4>Wand if you're lucky enough to have something in your

0:53:39.800 --> 0:53:43.240
<v Speaker 4>career like you both have had, that you can attach

0:53:43.320 --> 0:53:46.840
<v Speaker 4>yourself to that. To this day, if I do a

0:53:46.960 --> 0:53:49.640
<v Speaker 4>concert and I don't sing popular or any songs that

0:53:49.680 --> 0:53:54.719
<v Speaker 4>are attached to me, I could get shot all my

0:53:54.800 --> 0:53:57.800
<v Speaker 4>money back. That's right, and I will always do it always.

0:53:58.160 --> 0:54:00.640
<v Speaker 1>But what's really important, So this podcas was born of

0:54:00.680 --> 0:54:03.080
<v Speaker 1>our friendship and our connection on you know, a show that,

0:54:03.520 --> 0:54:06.480
<v Speaker 1>like you said, managed managed to grab.

0:54:06.320 --> 0:54:07.640
<v Speaker 3>People and give them comfort.

0:54:08.360 --> 0:54:10.960
<v Speaker 1>And we we we have, you know, a group of

0:54:11.000 --> 0:54:14.360
<v Speaker 1>people that have that has grown since we started, and

0:54:14.440 --> 0:54:16.600
<v Speaker 1>we call them the crew, and it's the call it Crew.

0:54:16.719 --> 0:54:19.560
<v Speaker 1>And they they write in and they call in, and

0:54:20.080 --> 0:54:23.200
<v Speaker 1>they do so with such bravery and such vulnerability. And

0:54:23.560 --> 0:54:26.360
<v Speaker 1>many times, you know, we talk about how loneliness is

0:54:26.400 --> 0:54:28.959
<v Speaker 1>a real epidemic, and it's been it's been.

0:54:29.000 --> 0:54:32.960
<v Speaker 3>Understood, stated and and and articulated.

0:54:32.480 --> 0:54:35.560
<v Speaker 1>Very well that this is happening, that there are people

0:54:35.560 --> 0:54:38.520
<v Speaker 1>who are lonely, and when people are lonely, what do

0:54:38.640 --> 0:54:41.640
<v Speaker 1>they do? And lots of times if they doubt themselves

0:54:41.680 --> 0:54:43.840
<v Speaker 1>and they write in with all these different things. But

0:54:43.920 --> 0:54:47.279
<v Speaker 1>that's but it's a real thread that's through many of them,

0:54:47.320 --> 0:54:48.920
<v Speaker 1>which is like, how do I know if I'm on

0:54:48.960 --> 0:54:50.520
<v Speaker 1>the right path, How do I know when to start

0:54:50.560 --> 0:54:52.759
<v Speaker 1>my family? How do I know about this friend that's

0:54:52.800 --> 0:54:53.719
<v Speaker 1>like doesn't feel right?

0:54:53.800 --> 0:54:54.560
<v Speaker 3>But I don't know.

0:54:54.640 --> 0:54:56.759
<v Speaker 1>I really love them and I can't imagine not having them,

0:54:57.040 --> 0:54:59.399
<v Speaker 1>but this doubt, doubt, doubt, And I think it's always

0:54:59.440 --> 0:55:02.560
<v Speaker 1>so important to remember that these people that you think

0:55:02.600 --> 0:55:05.040
<v Speaker 1>are larger than life and that have no worries in

0:55:05.120 --> 0:55:07.560
<v Speaker 1>the world or just came upon this thing and magically

0:55:07.600 --> 0:55:10.440
<v Speaker 1>opened up their mouths and had this ah, and.

0:55:10.520 --> 0:55:13.160
<v Speaker 3>Then it's hard one, and that you doubt yourself and you.

0:55:13.239 --> 0:55:16.160
<v Speaker 1>Think it's not right, and you're sometimes not brave enough

0:55:16.239 --> 0:55:18.160
<v Speaker 1>to sing it the loudest and sometimes you're not even

0:55:18.200 --> 0:55:20.560
<v Speaker 1>brave enough to sing it at all, But that these

0:55:20.640 --> 0:55:23.120
<v Speaker 1>are the moments that make us human and connect us.

0:55:23.200 --> 0:55:26.200
<v Speaker 1>And so you two, having born witness to that struggle

0:55:26.400 --> 0:55:30.719
<v Speaker 1>and that definition of self and character is so important.

0:55:31.680 --> 0:55:33.920
<v Speaker 4>I'm so glad that y'all talk about these things on

0:55:34.040 --> 0:55:38.759
<v Speaker 4>your show on your podcast, because I think I don't

0:55:38.800 --> 0:55:40.800
<v Speaker 4>know how you feel, but it feels like and it

0:55:40.880 --> 0:55:43.240
<v Speaker 4>doesn't matter if you're a performer or an accountant or whatever,

0:55:43.560 --> 0:55:46.279
<v Speaker 4>no matter how successful, you get with more success or

0:55:46.360 --> 0:55:50.800
<v Speaker 4>becomes more pressure. Yeah, and I even find myself thinking,

0:55:51.760 --> 0:55:53.279
<v Speaker 4>oh my gosh, what am I doing here, I'm a

0:55:53.320 --> 0:55:58.480
<v Speaker 4>big loser. People can see through me. I'm just faking it. No,

0:55:58.960 --> 0:56:01.080
<v Speaker 4>that's the devil talk. And as my mother would say,

0:56:01.560 --> 0:56:04.719
<v Speaker 4>that's the negative. And we can all let it in.

0:56:05.560 --> 0:56:07.840
<v Speaker 4>We can all let it in and it doesn't it

0:56:07.920 --> 0:56:09.719
<v Speaker 4>doesn't matter who you are, you have it, and it's

0:56:09.840 --> 0:56:13.840
<v Speaker 4>it's nice to hear there's it's nice that there's conversations

0:56:13.920 --> 0:56:16.160
<v Speaker 4>like this that people know that no matter who you are,

0:56:17.200 --> 0:56:20.279
<v Speaker 4>famous not famous, success will not so so it doesn't matter.

0:56:20.520 --> 0:56:24.200
<v Speaker 4>We all have the insecurity. We all just do. It's

0:56:24.239 --> 0:56:24.760
<v Speaker 4>we're human.

0:56:25.440 --> 0:56:28.160
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, you know what. I love that you said

0:56:28.200 --> 0:56:28.320
<v Speaker 3>to you.

0:56:28.480 --> 0:56:30.319
<v Speaker 2>I love that you said that their battle cries were

0:56:30.360 --> 0:56:32.759
<v Speaker 2>different because it got me thinking, like, well, what's my

0:56:33.000 --> 0:56:34.239
<v Speaker 2>version of my battle cry?

0:56:34.600 --> 0:56:36.200
<v Speaker 4>Very Well said yeah, you.

0:56:36.280 --> 0:56:38.320
<v Speaker 3>Know, like what's mine? Oh, I'm going to hear it

0:56:38.400 --> 0:56:40.359
<v Speaker 3>later right after.

0:56:40.920 --> 0:56:43.880
<v Speaker 4>Want to do the video of that.

0:56:44.880 --> 0:56:47.200
<v Speaker 3>It's coming. I got to practice it. I don't know

0:56:47.239 --> 0:56:50.000
<v Speaker 3>what it is, Kristen, but it's going to be pretty amazing.

0:56:50.320 --> 0:56:51.320
<v Speaker 3>It's pretty amazing.

0:56:51.760 --> 0:56:55.719
<v Speaker 4>I think that we should encourage all women, especially women,

0:56:55.800 --> 0:56:59.600
<v Speaker 4>to find their own battle cry. Actually, because my gosh,

0:56:59.640 --> 0:57:02.680
<v Speaker 4>it's hard enough. And and to have like you two,

0:57:02.800 --> 0:57:06.000
<v Speaker 4>who are good friends, I'd love to see it women

0:57:06.080 --> 0:57:10.359
<v Speaker 4>supporting women and that it's there's room for everybody at

0:57:10.360 --> 0:57:13.520
<v Speaker 4>the top. All of this is true when I was younger.

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<v Speaker 4>I'll just tell you, when I was younger and boy

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<v Speaker 4>cannot talk. But when I was younger, it was not

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<v Speaker 4>it was you got to you got it. It's all

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<v Speaker 4>You're on your own. You're on your own. And now

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<v Speaker 4>with this women power thing, I'm thinking, thank goodness because

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<v Speaker 4>this is always felt natural to me. Instead of pitting women,

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<v Speaker 4>it would be easy. It would have been easy, I think,

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<v Speaker 4>for Adena and I to have been pitted against each other.

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<v Speaker 4>And I think and whenever that might have crept in,

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<v Speaker 4>we both went h. We have a job to do

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<v Speaker 4>and we have goals to create. But now it's even

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<v Speaker 4>like you look at Ariana and Cynthia holding each other's hand,

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<v Speaker 4>seeing each other. I don't mind it one bit. I'm

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<v Speaker 4>here for it, just like I'm here for Travis Kelsey

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<v Speaker 4>and Taylor Swift's love. I'm here.

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<v Speaker 3>We're for girls, same we're here for it. We're here

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<v Speaker 3>for it all.

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<v Speaker 4>I know.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm here for the good.

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<v Speaker 1>The good that I mean, it's just it's very inspiring

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<v Speaker 1>and I love that there's just the freedom to share it,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, to share the stories.

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<v Speaker 3>Kristin. I am thank you so much for you podcast.

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<v Speaker 3>You you want your number so that you can send

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<v Speaker 3>me videos to I.

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<v Speaker 4>Will send you videos from the tub.

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<v Speaker 3>I want all of them. I'm not kidding. I don't

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<v Speaker 3>care where you are.

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<v Speaker 1>One time she sent me, I went to go, like

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<v Speaker 1>click on the video she sent me, but it was

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<v Speaker 1>just dark. It was black and it was because it

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<v Speaker 1>was nighttime and.

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<v Speaker 3>All the lights were off. But She's still send me

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<v Speaker 3>a video instead of a voice.

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<v Speaker 4>Note.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't even I don't care how dark it is, Kristin.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, I know.

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<v Speaker 3>I just love you.

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<v Speaker 4>I love you guys. You're amazing.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you so much. You're the best. I'm calling I'm

0:58:56.400 --> 0:59:03.000
<v Speaker 3>calling you in a minute. I love you. Goodbye. That

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<v Speaker 3>was literally I'm not even kidding when I say that

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<v Speaker 3>was one of my favorite interviews we've ever done.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm obsessed. It's not even funny. I'm like, I loved

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<v Speaker 2>her before she came on, but now I'm like next level.

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<v Speaker 3>By the way, I'm gonna give you her numbers. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>not she's not joking. I'm not kidding. She's amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>But also, can I just say something, I felt like

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<v Speaker 1>you were super on too, like you had great questions

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<v Speaker 1>and great connection points.

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<v Speaker 3>It's because I'm a professional. Do you just slur when

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<v Speaker 3>you said professional? I mean I've been drinking. I've been drinking.

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<v Speaker 3>I haven't drinking. Maybe that's why battle cry. I haven't drinking.

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<v Speaker 3>It's because I'm a professional. Professional while your microphones.

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<v Speaker 2>No, i' I held this so tight. I can't believe

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<v Speaker 2>Chris and I were both at the Menanda's house.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, that's pretty funny. That's pretty funny.

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<v Speaker 2>Literally, I mean it sounds so cheesy, and I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 2>do the cheesybursion of this wrap up anyway.

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<v Speaker 3>It was literally magical. Yeah, yeah, she is. She really is.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know what to tell you.

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<v Speaker 2>And I love what she said about her husband, like

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<v Speaker 2>he's the best the knowing of giving yourself a break,

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<v Speaker 2>because that's hard. It's hard to the pressures that she

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<v Speaker 2>talks about.

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<v Speaker 3>And they really give themselves to each other.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, at least from where I've sat, like they

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<v Speaker 1>really like have put each other, in in each other's care,

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<v Speaker 1>and she and he is he's a guitarist. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>he's on so I mean, so they also figured out

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<v Speaker 1>how to do what they love together.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's that's a challenge. And she she's no joke.

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<v Speaker 1>She's on the road all the time. And really she

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to be one of our first guests. And she

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<v Speaker 1>was testing out a musical and doing a run in Boston.

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<v Speaker 1>And I mean truly, there was not there wasn't a

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<v Speaker 1>minute in her schedule. She didn't have a free hour.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so grateful. I would take ten minutes with her,

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<v Speaker 1>but I also need her to rest.

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<v Speaker 3>Anyway. I loved, loved every second. Me too, Me too.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, well I don't. I mean, I'm not sure how.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, we're gonna maybe, but how do you top that?

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<v Speaker 1>I think we should just stop.

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<v Speaker 3>We're just gonna show up and we're just gonna call it.

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<v Speaker 3>And I have to go lay down. I had to process, I.

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<v Speaker 4>Know, I know, I know.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I'm gonna give it, gonna send you her number

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<v Speaker 1>and then and then we're gonna have a group chat.

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<v Speaker 3>How about that? Yes, I love that. Let's call it, Jess,

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<v Speaker 3>Let's call it the end of the episode,