1 00:00:00,960 --> 00:00:04,800 Speaker 1: Call It What It Is with Jessica Capshaw and Camille Luddington, 2 00:00:05,240 --> 00:00:06,720 Speaker 1: an iHeartRadio podcast. 3 00:00:18,640 --> 00:00:22,960 Speaker 2: Well, Hello, Hello, Hello, Hello Call It crew, and welcome 4 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:25,880 Speaker 2: to another episode of Call It What It Is. This 5 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:28,200 Speaker 2: one's very special. I know we say that a lot, 6 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:31,480 Speaker 2: but this one feels extra magical. And the reason being 7 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:34,919 Speaker 2: is because when we first knew we're doing this podcast, 8 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:41,480 Speaker 2: Jessica and I put together a list of like our favoritest, 9 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:44,040 Speaker 2: favoritest people that dreamy, people that we want to have 10 00:00:44,080 --> 00:00:47,320 Speaker 2: on and literally this was like maybe the first person 11 00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:48,240 Speaker 2: that came out of your mouth. 12 00:00:48,600 --> 00:00:49,280 Speaker 3: That's true. 13 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:56,080 Speaker 1: I love me some christens it. I love her so much. 14 00:00:56,400 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 1: You all, if you don't know where, you're going to 15 00:00:58,120 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 1: fall in love and you do you know, yeah, of 16 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:01,800 Speaker 1: course you know her. But if you don't, if you 17 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 1: haven't heard her talking in her real voice about her 18 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 1: real life, you're gonna fall in love. And if you 19 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 1: do know her, then you're just gonna fall deeper in love. 20 00:01:12,160 --> 00:01:14,039 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what you know? 21 00:01:14,080 --> 00:01:17,200 Speaker 2: What's so funny is that we no I just want 22 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:18,920 Speaker 2: to say really quick. What's so funny is we've been 23 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:21,840 Speaker 2: waiting because she's the busiest person that anyone could ever know, 24 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:24,480 Speaker 2: of course, And she's so talented that of course she's 25 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:27,960 Speaker 2: wanted and needed everywhere, and so we've been wanting her 26 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:31,199 Speaker 2: on for a long time and it's literally timed out 27 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 2: with Wicked and I can't even believe that. 28 00:01:35,959 --> 00:01:37,600 Speaker 3: And so all things. 29 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 2: Happen for a reason, and we have to bring her 30 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 2: in and just talk about all the things. 31 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 3: All the things, and she will. 32 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:46,560 Speaker 2: Who is. 33 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:53,480 Speaker 3: I was just talking about how much in the where 34 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:54,840 Speaker 3: in the bathroom? What's happening? 35 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 4: I'm in Oklahoma. I just finished a photo shoot and 36 00:01:57,640 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 4: it's stay like forty one had a day off. But 37 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:02,000 Speaker 4: I'm happy to see. 38 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:05,720 Speaker 3: Oh my god, Kristin. I'm so excited to meet you. 39 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 2: I feel like I know you because Jess talks about 40 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:08,640 Speaker 2: you all the time. 41 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 4: I'm happy to meet you too, You sweet angel. 42 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 3: You're like family. I mean, we played family, That's how 43 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:15,799 Speaker 3: we met. 44 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 1: But even when I go to I had been on 45 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 1: Grays for so long and you get off and you're like, oh, 46 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:26,400 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go do something different, and what's that going 47 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:29,680 Speaker 1: to be? And it ended up being this movie that 48 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 1: I auditioned for three times. 49 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 3: Because they're like, I don't know if she's funny. 50 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:37,079 Speaker 4: Did I know that you had to even audition? 51 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:40,120 Speaker 3: Like hello, No, you would have like flipped a table 52 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:40,919 Speaker 3: if you found that out. 53 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:42,640 Speaker 4: I'm already flipping a table. 54 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:48,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, flip it, Kristen Well, I bet she's pissed she 55 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:52,000 Speaker 1: had to audition. Anyways, I get the part and I 56 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:54,639 Speaker 1: come to the table reading at Lena and I walk 57 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:55,960 Speaker 1: in and we'ren't some I'm like, I don't know. 58 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:58,120 Speaker 3: I mean the production officers were in't like we're to. 59 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:03,840 Speaker 1: And I see this bright, gorgeous face and she runs 60 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 1: up to me like like like we're like we're long 61 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:07,639 Speaker 1: lost family. 62 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 3: And I couldn't believe it. 63 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:11,800 Speaker 1: And I also was like I believe you were family, 64 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:12,920 Speaker 1: and that's how it started. 65 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:16,720 Speaker 4: I fell in love with her. She doesn't remember this, Camela, 66 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:20,520 Speaker 4: that I was on a red carpet before anyone was 67 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 4: born and baby Jessica was there. I can't remember what 68 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 4: even show you were doing at the time, but I 69 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:30,360 Speaker 4: just thought that girl's really talented. And then when Holliday 70 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 4: came up, you know you know me now, caps I'm 71 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 4: just like I can't wait to say hi, and just 72 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 4: like love on her. And so I went right up 73 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:41,400 Speaker 4: to her in my much too muchness that I am 74 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 4: and never enough, and that was that was all she wrote. 75 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 1: It was it was we were we were off to 76 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:48,440 Speaker 1: the races, and we were all staying in the same 77 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 1: apartment complex, and we would call each other video, send 78 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:55,120 Speaker 1: videos to each other, ride in the car together, stop 79 00:03:55,160 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 1: at Starbucks together. I knew her order, but I knew 80 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:00,120 Speaker 1: your Starbucks order by heart, like I could go to 81 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:00,840 Speaker 1: Starbucks for you. 82 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 2: What is that? 83 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 3: Okay, we tell everyone what the Starbucks order is. We 84 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:06,200 Speaker 3: want to know. Sorry, her beverages don't come from Starbucks. 85 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 3: Where do your beverages come from? 86 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:14,080 Speaker 4: Coca Cola? I like Coca Cola regular? 87 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 3: Are we talking about regular? 88 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:16,360 Speaker 4: Wide waist star? 89 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 3: Yes, okay, regular Coca Cola. I love this. 90 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:22,279 Speaker 4: And now I know I have to say Coca Cola 91 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 4: because I said I just love coke and somebody. 92 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:27,279 Speaker 3: Said co Colaa. 93 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 4: I did change my order, Jessica. Just I know you're 94 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 4: dying to hear the news. But I am love the 95 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:37,520 Speaker 4: egg white bites and I still do. But now that's 96 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:40,160 Speaker 4: the thing, and I give this to you as a gift. Okay, 97 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:43,440 Speaker 4: you have a square thing called potato cheddar bytes and 98 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:48,040 Speaker 4: it's eight it's egg white bites. And potato and cheese 99 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:50,920 Speaker 4: and you're welcome. And they're only two hundred ten calories. 100 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 4: So there it is. 101 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:58,080 Speaker 1: Wait, just is this why you love egg white bites? Yes, 102 00:04:58,320 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 1: she's the first what she said, I could get to 103 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:03,800 Speaker 1: a time now. Yes, I get them in airports, I 104 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:06,160 Speaker 1: get them, I get them wherever. Yes, because it's a 105 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 1: perfect little bite. 106 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:09,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, now we go. So how long were you guys 107 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 3: shooting that together? 108 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:15,800 Speaker 4: For whatever? No, like cats, was it like two or 109 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 4: three months? 110 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 1: It felt like forever because we went through every single 111 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:20,719 Speaker 1: holiday in the year, so it felt like a year, 112 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:21,720 Speaker 1: but it wasn't a year. 113 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:22,960 Speaker 3: I don't know. 114 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:25,160 Speaker 1: I feel like we started in May and we were 115 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 1: done by the beginning of August the end of July. 116 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:30,080 Speaker 4: I think you're right. 117 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:32,240 Speaker 1: I had my baby girl because she was the only 118 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:33,920 Speaker 1: one that wasn't in school, so she would come back 119 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:35,480 Speaker 1: and forth. So I would always have like a car 120 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:37,599 Speaker 1: seat that i'd try to put in the van, or. 121 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:43,800 Speaker 4: I'd Jessica was we would go on our days off. 122 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:45,360 Speaker 4: She's like, what do you want to do. I'm like, 123 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 4: I'm I'm roaded hard and put away. What what do 124 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:50,920 Speaker 4: you mean, I'm exhausted? She was like, let's go shopping. 125 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:53,599 Speaker 4: Let's go. And there was in our little pont city. 126 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:56,039 Speaker 4: There was a jewelry store, there was a gift store, 127 00:05:56,400 --> 00:05:58,719 Speaker 4: and she'd have all her kids, which I think they're 128 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:04,160 Speaker 4: twenty seven of them all in there, and they their 129 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:08,360 Speaker 4: kids are good. No, I know, we get parental class. 130 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 3: My kids are not like that. And you're right. 131 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:15,560 Speaker 2: I travel with her too, and I'm like, let me 132 00:06:15,760 --> 00:06:19,120 Speaker 2: just bedrot, like, let me be and she's like, I 133 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:21,880 Speaker 2: just went on a whole hike by the beach and 134 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:23,600 Speaker 2: now and it's like, let's go. 135 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:27,240 Speaker 3: And I'm like, no, you want to go out after. 136 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:29,559 Speaker 3: I'm like, no, no, we don't. 137 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:32,240 Speaker 1: We don't want to joel on, hold on, hold on 138 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:35,480 Speaker 1: what she would great, let's not let's not pretend that 139 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 1: you were doing nothing in your room. When I would 140 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 1: find out later like so what did you end up doing? 141 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:42,600 Speaker 1: And she'll be she'd be like, well, I had fourteen interviews, 142 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 1: and then I did a bedside version a cappella. I 143 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:47,160 Speaker 1: did on a voice recording, but I did send it 144 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 1: to Broadway. They're going to play it in front of everyone. 145 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:51,200 Speaker 1: There's gonna be twenty seven hundred person audience for what 146 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 1: I just recorded from my bed and I'm. 147 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:56,720 Speaker 3: Like, You're like, let's go get jewelry. Can we just 148 00:06:56,800 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 3: make a bracelet? Why don't we go do that? 149 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 4: There was one I remember because on the days off, 150 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:04,640 Speaker 4: and it caught up with me and now I'm not 151 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 4: doing that anymore. But I used to sing concerts on 152 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 4: my yeah weekends off from the movies, and Capshaw was like, 153 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 4: are you like, what are you doing? I want you 154 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 4: to know, Jess, I'm trying to well, first of all, 155 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 4: I'm in my fifties now, girls, so I'm taken. I'm 156 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 4: just trying to be a little bit more mindful of 157 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 4: the time that I have and resting and self care. 158 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 4: I grew up in a time when self care was 159 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 4: not a thing. It was like you keep going and 160 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 4: you don't complain. And you know, I'm from the South too, 161 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 4: so we have that. 162 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:45,160 Speaker 1: Hair care was a thing, but not self care. You're 163 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 1: so right, and you're really got really good haircare. 164 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 4: Hair care. I finally learned what that is too, And 165 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:52,280 Speaker 4: of course none of it's mine, but it's okay. 166 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 3: None of it's mine either. It's okay. 167 00:07:54,640 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 1: You know why people are there to help, that's right, okay, 168 00:07:57,760 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 1: So can I just before we get on we can't 169 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 1: get off of holiday without telling Okay, I need to 170 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 1: know all the story well because it puts us in 171 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:05,680 Speaker 1: just a very special place. 172 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 3: I hope that Christmas already laughing, did you know what 173 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 3: this is already? 174 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, because there's no way that there's no other story 175 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 1: that's that's going to make her look the way she 176 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:16,800 Speaker 1: looks right now. Okay, So we're we're pretty deep into 177 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 1: our love affair, like we know we're no, we know 178 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:23,600 Speaker 1: that we are each other's people, yes, and you know, 179 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:27,000 Speaker 1: there's like they're setting things up somewhere and so we're 180 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:29,800 Speaker 1: just like chit chatting and every time like they're moving 181 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:33,760 Speaker 1: the set like all the grip stuff and everything. So 182 00:08:33,800 --> 00:08:35,719 Speaker 1: we keep having to move spots like you're in the 183 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 1: way here, you got to move over here, and then 184 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 1: you So we find this place to sit stand and 185 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 1: we're talking and we're standing there's like a we're in 186 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:44,920 Speaker 1: the we're in Atlanta, and there's we're outside and there's 187 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:49,400 Speaker 1: like an elevated back patio. Yeah, like a somewhat of 188 00:08:49,400 --> 00:08:52,360 Speaker 1: a balcony, right, yeah, like a balcony, but we're not 189 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:53,480 Speaker 1: on top of the balcony. 190 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:55,199 Speaker 4: Almost got you remember. 191 00:08:55,640 --> 00:08:58,439 Speaker 3: Yes, yes, you did what happened. Okay, we need to 192 00:08:58,480 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 3: know this story too. 193 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:01,640 Speaker 4: It was it tick calling up her leg. We were 194 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:04,959 Speaker 4: both in swimsuits, miserable and slapped it off. 195 00:09:05,280 --> 00:09:06,959 Speaker 3: Yeah she did, she did, and I let her and 196 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 3: I liked it. 197 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 1: Okay. So we're standing at the bottom of this balcony 198 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:29,680 Speaker 1: so that our heads are like equal with the feet 199 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 1: of the people standing on top of the balcony. 200 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 4: This is very important. 201 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:35,679 Speaker 3: Okay, Okay, I'm picturing it. Okay, can you pature that? 202 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:39,719 Speaker 1: So we're standing there, so our little heads are right there, 203 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:42,559 Speaker 1: level with again the people's feet that are standing on 204 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:45,360 Speaker 1: the balcony, so they're like above us, and we're chip chatting, 205 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:48,200 Speaker 1: chit chatting. And there comes when you want to take 206 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:48,440 Speaker 1: it away. 207 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 3: Christen. 208 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:52,199 Speaker 4: There was a boom operator and he had that you 209 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 4: know he had he had the head hands on, yeah, 210 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 4: hands on, and he just he just let it rip. 211 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:06,480 Speaker 4: Hey god, yes, our faces were right where his butt 212 00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 4: would be, right, you don't remember, but he just let 213 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:16,120 Speaker 4: it rip and just that and I went like we 214 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 4: were like scooby Doo bo doo, and we went in 215 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 4: the direction, not even look at each other. I went 216 00:10:23,559 --> 00:10:25,959 Speaker 4: one area, she went to the other. We went and 217 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:29,600 Speaker 4: lookes throw ourselves. 218 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:33,480 Speaker 3: Could not regulates. Are lucky to get pink eye? 219 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:39,959 Speaker 4: That's very fo we And to this day I say, 220 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:43,240 Speaker 4: boom operator and we both know. We both stop it 221 00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:46,079 Speaker 4: to say does he know that he did that? 222 00:10:46,559 --> 00:10:47,640 Speaker 3: Of course he doesn't. 223 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 2: He didn't see us, so he was like, I'm freeing 224 00:10:51,800 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 2: so gross you guys grossed out. 225 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:56,040 Speaker 4: But then we couldn't contain it. 226 00:10:56,360 --> 00:10:59,680 Speaker 3: No, we did. We went out. Yeah. 227 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:00,240 Speaker 5: Yeah. 228 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:02,079 Speaker 1: And one of the greatest gifts of being friends with 229 00:11:02,160 --> 00:11:04,079 Speaker 1: Kristin is she really does. She doesn't text you. She 230 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:06,360 Speaker 1: takes a video of herself and sends it to you, 231 00:11:06,559 --> 00:11:08,520 Speaker 1: so it's in real It's not even like a voice memo. 232 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:11,679 Speaker 1: It's a real the whole movie. And every once in 233 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:14,120 Speaker 1: a while over the past couple of years, she will 234 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:16,400 Speaker 1: just send a video and it all really simply says 235 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 1: is we got farted on. 236 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:20,600 Speaker 3: We were farted on. 237 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:26,760 Speaker 2: Mine in our own business, y'all just trying to make 238 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:28,840 Speaker 2: a movie, just trying to make. 239 00:11:30,679 --> 00:11:33,920 Speaker 4: You cannot re enact because we looked at each other 240 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:36,079 Speaker 4: when we got farted. 241 00:11:37,720 --> 00:11:39,200 Speaker 3: Direction opposite directions. 242 00:11:39,559 --> 00:11:39,719 Speaker 4: I know. 243 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:42,080 Speaker 2: There were so many funny keeping a street priests because 244 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:45,320 Speaker 2: the word fart can't even handle the word fart. 245 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:48,679 Speaker 3: No, if you talk about it's because you're PTSD with 246 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:49,120 Speaker 3: this one. 247 00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:52,319 Speaker 4: I think, so this is you have some drama the 248 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:53,640 Speaker 4: Boom Operator doesn't. 249 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:55,800 Speaker 1: It does? And there were so many funny people on 250 00:11:55,880 --> 00:11:57,640 Speaker 1: that movie. And I remember you and I, Oh my gosh, 251 00:11:57,679 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 1: remember Alex moffittt from Sorry Live? 252 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 3: Why would we like? 253 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:02,280 Speaker 4: He's the funniest person. 254 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:05,400 Speaker 3: God, he was funny. I know, I love him by 255 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:08,280 Speaker 3: the way, Yeah Sorry, he played my. 256 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:11,200 Speaker 1: Husband and he was he was so funny. We had 257 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:13,599 Speaker 1: we had a really good time and Emma Roberts just 258 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:16,360 Speaker 1: love her so much. It was but we became my family. 259 00:12:17,880 --> 00:12:19,679 Speaker 1: We became my family. And then so that was a 260 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:21,760 Speaker 1: holiday movie. You've done a lot of holiday movies. 261 00:12:22,080 --> 00:12:25,520 Speaker 2: Well, can I talk about this before you got on? 262 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:28,480 Speaker 2: I said to Jessica, and she is going to tell 263 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:31,600 Speaker 2: us a story that we both apparently don't know. I said, 264 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:35,439 Speaker 2: you're in one of my favorite ever holiday movies for Christmases. 265 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:40,040 Speaker 3: I love that movie so much. And then Jessica, what 266 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:41,559 Speaker 3: did you say? I said, I have to talk to 267 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:42,840 Speaker 3: her about it. And then what did you say? 268 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 1: Well, I said, I don't think Kristen even knows how 269 00:12:46,920 --> 00:12:49,160 Speaker 1: many times I auditioned for movies that. 270 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:54,559 Speaker 3: She got what And I remember I did not even know. 271 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:57,120 Speaker 1: I remember, like you know, I always felt like when 272 00:12:57,120 --> 00:13:00,560 Speaker 1: I was auditioning early days, I was like the Orman's 273 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 1: Reese Witherspoon. 274 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:04,640 Speaker 3: They'd be like, you look a lot like Ree Witherspoon. 275 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:09,319 Speaker 5: But not but like not like as good's pretty, not 276 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:12,320 Speaker 5: as pretty, but like not as funny either, but also 277 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:14,240 Speaker 5: like I don't know, just not her, but like. 278 00:13:14,360 --> 00:13:15,400 Speaker 3: But not at all like that. 279 00:13:16,559 --> 00:13:19,800 Speaker 1: And so anyways, when I get the script and it's 280 00:13:19,840 --> 00:13:22,520 Speaker 1: playing her sister, I'm like, well, fuck, I can do that, right, 281 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 1: That's what this poor man's Reese Wetherspoon is gonna be 282 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:26,680 Speaker 1: good for is I'm gonna be able to be her sister. 283 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:30,280 Speaker 1: And so I'm like, I got this, and I throw 284 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:33,319 Speaker 1: out my best audition whatever, and they come back to 285 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:35,240 Speaker 1: me and they're like, oh, I mean it was a 286 00:13:35,320 --> 00:13:37,599 Speaker 1: good audition, but Kristin Chenowith got it. 287 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:43,360 Speaker 3: I was like, Kristen, you would have been amazing you 288 00:13:43,559 --> 00:13:46,839 Speaker 3: with you were better. I gotta tell you, Kristen, that 289 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:47,880 Speaker 3: role was for you. 290 00:13:49,080 --> 00:13:51,040 Speaker 2: Because Jessica and I talk about that you get the 291 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:53,520 Speaker 2: roles you were supposed to get, that you are so 292 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:58,559 Speaker 2: funny in that movie that I wanted to know because. 293 00:13:58,280 --> 00:14:00,800 Speaker 3: I wanted this every time I watch it. Was there 294 00:14:00,880 --> 00:14:02,280 Speaker 3: a lot of improv in that movie. 295 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:06,480 Speaker 4: It was mostly improv, my sweet And I was so 296 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:10,840 Speaker 4: happy that Vince and Reese let us you know that's 297 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:13,400 Speaker 4: always when and you know this, you both know this, 298 00:14:13,640 --> 00:14:17,320 Speaker 4: that when it just happens naturally, and Vince would just go, chinniwick, 299 00:14:17,440 --> 00:14:19,960 Speaker 4: just do it. He let us all do that. I 300 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:23,320 Speaker 4: do have one little story that I've never told. 301 00:14:23,760 --> 00:14:24,080 Speaker 3: Bring it. 302 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:27,120 Speaker 4: I saved it. I saved it, and I didn't know 303 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:29,960 Speaker 4: if this movie would come up. I swear, I swear 304 00:14:31,160 --> 00:14:34,080 Speaker 4: I've never told this, but I you know that character 305 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:38,760 Speaker 4: has all these kids right back, and she has these twins. 306 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:43,920 Speaker 4: H I've never had a child, and and I love them, 307 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:46,080 Speaker 4: but I just I didn't work out that way for me. 308 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:49,280 Speaker 4: And I'm having all these kids around me and I'm 309 00:14:49,320 --> 00:14:52,040 Speaker 4: holding this this these twins all the time. My neck 310 00:14:52,200 --> 00:14:54,720 Speaker 4: was really hurting and they would bring in and say, 311 00:14:54,800 --> 00:14:56,600 Speaker 4: give you a break and let me hold one. Because 312 00:14:56,600 --> 00:14:58,520 Speaker 4: I wanted to seem like a mom, right. I wanted 313 00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:03,640 Speaker 4: it to look realistic. And I looked down and I'm 314 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:06,720 Speaker 4: like why I hope I can tell this on this podcast. 315 00:15:07,040 --> 00:15:08,960 Speaker 3: You can tell anything. We talk about all the things. 316 00:15:09,080 --> 00:15:12,640 Speaker 4: Okay, good. I looked down and I'm wet in my 317 00:15:12,720 --> 00:15:15,080 Speaker 4: boom area and I was like, what is that? And 318 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:17,680 Speaker 4: I was lactating. 319 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 2: Yeah what? 320 00:15:20,800 --> 00:15:25,320 Speaker 4: And I panicked and I went I remember mentioning very quietly, 321 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:27,640 Speaker 4: begining toes. She goes, No, it's a real thing. It 322 00:15:27,680 --> 00:15:30,400 Speaker 4: can happen. It's a real thing. I've never done it since, 323 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:32,880 Speaker 4: but I don't know if it was. I don't know 324 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:35,120 Speaker 4: what it was. But I had to put little covers. 325 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:41,800 Speaker 4: I had started lactating, daring that what was that? That 326 00:15:42,040 --> 00:15:42,760 Speaker 4: is insane. 327 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:44,200 Speaker 3: I love that story. 328 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:46,200 Speaker 4: Thing. It can happen. 329 00:15:46,560 --> 00:15:49,640 Speaker 3: I'm so glad you gave this to us. I mean, 330 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:52,640 Speaker 3: I've had that happened when I was breastfeeding, but never 331 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:54,240 Speaker 3: when I was not well. 332 00:15:54,280 --> 00:15:55,480 Speaker 4: I thought, am I pregnant? 333 00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 2: Not know it? 334 00:15:56,160 --> 00:15:59,160 Speaker 4: No, I wasn't pregnant. But I guess it's a real 335 00:15:59,240 --> 00:16:01,360 Speaker 4: you know, you think about the wet back in the 336 00:16:01,480 --> 00:16:04,160 Speaker 4: day or whatever. But it happened to me, and I 337 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:07,760 Speaker 4: was so embarrassed because there was like these wet patches, right, 338 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:10,560 Speaker 4: is't that weird? 339 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:14,960 Speaker 3: That's crazy? But you were surrounded by kids in that movie. 340 00:16:15,400 --> 00:16:17,800 Speaker 4: Yes, you know, I was probably at my peak, if 341 00:16:17,840 --> 00:16:19,920 Speaker 4: you know what I mean, and I was. I was 342 00:16:20,040 --> 00:16:23,120 Speaker 4: just loving them. I do love children. I just love them. 343 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:26,920 Speaker 4: We had this thing called the jump jump in that movie. 344 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:29,040 Speaker 3: Yes, you did the jump jump and I. 345 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:32,520 Speaker 4: Would get in there on my breaks. Oh it was 346 00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:35,320 Speaker 4: a bee tree dish and probably everything, but I didn't care. 347 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:36,320 Speaker 4: I was just it was fun. 348 00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:38,920 Speaker 3: My favorite scene the movie is when you guys go 349 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:39,520 Speaker 3: to church. 350 00:16:40,080 --> 00:16:41,360 Speaker 4: Oh isn't that funny? 351 00:16:42,760 --> 00:16:47,240 Speaker 3: And Vince is on stage doing like Jessica hasn't seen it, 352 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:52,680 Speaker 3: she's kids, watch it now. I processed the pain of 353 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:53,200 Speaker 3: the rejection. 354 00:16:53,360 --> 00:16:56,360 Speaker 4: That's what I had to the process. You know, we 355 00:16:56,560 --> 00:17:00,280 Speaker 4: always want there's always a part we want, right and 356 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:01,280 Speaker 4: like you said. 357 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:02,800 Speaker 3: The party, is there one for you? Yeah? I was 358 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:05,040 Speaker 3: gonna say, let's tell us what is the part that 359 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:08,520 Speaker 3: you did not get that you were like over. 360 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:17,119 Speaker 4: It's Hunger Games? Oh I wanted to play Oh my god, 361 00:17:19,040 --> 00:17:23,440 Speaker 4: oh how great? I mean I auditioned several times for that. 362 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:26,440 Speaker 4: But when I went to see it and I saw 363 00:17:27,240 --> 00:17:31,000 Speaker 4: I saw Elizabeth, Yeah, thanks to it, I just went, 364 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:33,879 Speaker 4: you know what, she's so perfect, like you can't but 365 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:34,880 Speaker 4: it takes a minute. 366 00:17:34,880 --> 00:17:37,960 Speaker 3: You have to let Yeah, yeah, I gotta say, though 367 00:17:38,320 --> 00:17:41,159 Speaker 3: I can if they ever redo it, I can see you. 368 00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:41,840 Speaker 1: In that role. 369 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:43,439 Speaker 3: I can honestly see you in anything. 370 00:17:44,040 --> 00:17:46,639 Speaker 2: I mean yes, but that role in particular with like 371 00:17:46,760 --> 00:17:49,480 Speaker 2: the outfits and that, and you know, she I like, 372 00:17:49,600 --> 00:17:50,320 Speaker 2: you would have killed it. 373 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:53,479 Speaker 4: It was so wasn't it a pretty movie? I mean, 374 00:17:54,119 --> 00:17:56,200 Speaker 4: if you can say it's a pretty movie, But I 375 00:17:56,400 --> 00:17:58,879 Speaker 4: just I loved I loved the books, so I was. 376 00:17:59,040 --> 00:18:02,119 Speaker 3: Yeah, And Poppy's reading them right now and she loves them. 377 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:02,880 Speaker 3: She's obsessed. 378 00:18:03,240 --> 00:18:06,520 Speaker 1: She is also, by the way, speaking of you with kids, 379 00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:11,040 Speaker 1: all my girls love you. You love my girls like you. 380 00:18:12,040 --> 00:18:15,000 Speaker 1: So I mean so yeah, like family, like completely like 381 00:18:15,080 --> 00:18:17,199 Speaker 1: family I worked with. My first movie that I ever 382 00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:18,240 Speaker 1: did was with Vince Vaughn. 383 00:18:18,920 --> 00:18:20,760 Speaker 4: Oh what was it? Yes? 384 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:24,119 Speaker 3: Wait, I don't know this, gosh, Sam full of sometimes 385 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:27,040 Speaker 3: you are. I did a movie called The Locusts. It 386 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:32,480 Speaker 3: was with Vince Vaughn, and he made me laugh. 387 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:35,920 Speaker 1: He might be one of the top Yeah three like 388 00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:38,159 Speaker 1: to be with. Like, when you're in a room with 389 00:18:38,359 --> 00:18:42,400 Speaker 1: Vince Vaughn, you are non stop laughing. I haven't seen 390 00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:45,160 Speaker 1: him in a very long time, but back then it's true, 391 00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:49,600 Speaker 1: like like like coke co cola out your nose, like 392 00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:54,399 Speaker 1: you're like you're yeah, you cannot believe it. And we 393 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:56,679 Speaker 1: had a very we had a very fun We were 394 00:18:56,720 --> 00:18:58,480 Speaker 1: like we had a very like brother sister vibe. 395 00:18:58,480 --> 00:19:02,720 Speaker 4: He and I. Yeah, he's one of those guys like 396 00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:09,719 Speaker 4: in much like Robin Williams who it's like, just let 397 00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:13,399 Speaker 4: him go, just let I asked Robin one time we 398 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:15,440 Speaker 4: were doing this movie RV. And I said, do you 399 00:19:15,560 --> 00:19:20,800 Speaker 4: ever just because he's always on chill yeah, and Vincent 400 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:24,720 Speaker 4: and he goes, no, this is me, yes around it it. Actually, 401 00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:26,720 Speaker 4: I don't know how you felt just but I felt 402 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:28,320 Speaker 4: like Sharper. 403 00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:31,040 Speaker 3: Oh for sure. Oh yeah, you got to be on 404 00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:32,440 Speaker 3: your toes around someone like that. 405 00:19:32,800 --> 00:19:34,240 Speaker 1: Well, you know they always say if you want to 406 00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:37,080 Speaker 1: get better at something, play with someone who's better than 407 00:19:37,119 --> 00:19:40,000 Speaker 1: you and not like I think I'm some great comedian, 408 00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:40,560 Speaker 1: but I don't know. 409 00:19:40,560 --> 00:19:44,040 Speaker 3: I'm kind of funny, and being with him you would 410 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:44,520 Speaker 3: have to like. 411 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:46,439 Speaker 1: And Paul Red was in it too, and Paul Red 412 00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:51,360 Speaker 1: is also hilarious, and being with both of them was definitely. 413 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:53,840 Speaker 1: By the way, the movie was an extreme bummer. It 414 00:19:53,920 --> 00:19:59,160 Speaker 1: was like the deepest darkest drama ever about like Insaust 415 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:01,680 Speaker 1: And yeah, it was like not a funny movie in 416 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:04,879 Speaker 1: any way, shape or form, but off camera we were 417 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:08,040 Speaker 1: laughing a lot. Yeah, And I remember when we used 418 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:10,640 Speaker 1: to go out and I would because he swingers, said, 419 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:13,000 Speaker 1: I think was just about to come out, and oh 420 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:16,840 Speaker 1: my gosh, he was so handsome again go back to 421 00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:17,880 Speaker 1: our brother sister Vibe. 422 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:21,920 Speaker 3: He's so tall, so tall, and so handsome. And we 423 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:27,240 Speaker 3: would go out and I remember just being very He 424 00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:28,640 Speaker 3: would use me as shield. 425 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:32,879 Speaker 1: Just to bounce the girls off of girls would be 426 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:36,720 Speaker 1: coming at him like rapid fire, just like throwing themselves 427 00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:39,480 Speaker 1: at him, and I was safe. And we had such 428 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:41,080 Speaker 1: a like I said, we were just such a good 429 00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:42,840 Speaker 1: dynamic and we had so much fun. And so he 430 00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:45,160 Speaker 1: would just like instantly pretend like I was his girlfriend. 431 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:48,040 Speaker 1: They're like arm would go around me and he'd be like, nope, nope, nope. 432 00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:52,960 Speaker 4: Oh you're even fatigue compared to the like he's. 433 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:55,240 Speaker 3: Tall, he's very he's very, very tall. 434 00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:59,639 Speaker 2: I would find improvising in a comedy with him really intimidating. 435 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:02,320 Speaker 4: I can't imagine like I did it. 436 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:04,639 Speaker 3: I did do it, but there was one time I 437 00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:06,000 Speaker 3: love it She's like, I can't imagine it. 438 00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:08,239 Speaker 4: Why did I say that? But I will say there 439 00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:10,560 Speaker 4: was one time he said just go. It was in 440 00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:13,680 Speaker 4: the bathroom. It got cut, but he just said, you're 441 00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:17,760 Speaker 4: in the bathroom and Reese comes in and I think 442 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:20,440 Speaker 4: it was not long after the lack ta Yeah, and 443 00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:25,080 Speaker 4: I just riffed for about fifteen minutes and he shot 444 00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:27,960 Speaker 4: it all. And then you remember in the church scene 445 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:31,560 Speaker 4: that you brought up, Yeah, we were all riffing. He 446 00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:35,119 Speaker 4: just he would put the camera on anyone, any one 447 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:37,720 Speaker 4: of it, the character actors, and would just let us play. 448 00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:40,760 Speaker 4: And I remember we were all getting a little confident 449 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:43,440 Speaker 4: and a little too much. And I remember kept saying, 450 00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:50,720 Speaker 4: who let the dogs out? I'll never forget. Oh my god, 451 00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:52,120 Speaker 4: He's right. 452 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:54,560 Speaker 3: But you know what I love when you go crazy? 453 00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:58,440 Speaker 1: And you in Holiday, she played Aunt Susan, and you 454 00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 1: had the you always have the most amazing characters, but 455 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:03,040 Speaker 1: you just got to be wild. And I remember at 456 00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:05,879 Speaker 1: one point you were always bringing home different bows, different 457 00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:09,680 Speaker 1: different men to our family gatherings, and you brought home 458 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:13,639 Speaker 1: a Santa and you, I mean, this guy loved this. 459 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:19,600 Speaker 3: Know what had hit him? I mean, Kristen was on him. 460 00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:20,200 Speaker 3: Like a pole. 461 00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:21,080 Speaker 4: It was. 462 00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:26,119 Speaker 3: I mean it was like she was hanging from the rafter. 463 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:27,960 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, she was. 464 00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:30,159 Speaker 4: It was the bag of her. 465 00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:33,800 Speaker 3: I mean it was commitment, is what it was. It 466 00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:34,680 Speaker 3: was commitments. 467 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:37,719 Speaker 4: Do you know that. I think maybe right after our 468 00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:41,000 Speaker 4: table read said table read, I had a fitting and 469 00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:47,880 Speaker 4: they said they held up this vintage play Playboy play 470 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:51,280 Speaker 4: Day and outfit and they said, we'd live for you 471 00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:55,680 Speaker 4: to wear this for the Easter Holiday, and I squeezed 472 00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:57,960 Speaker 4: myself into the I remember. 473 00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:01,400 Speaker 2: Hot, well, you was both so taught in that movie 474 00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:03,520 Speaker 2: because there was like a you were in like a 475 00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:06,160 Speaker 2: Leida Hosen whatever. 476 00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:08,520 Speaker 3: Halloween. Yeah, yeah, for Halloween. 477 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:11,120 Speaker 4: I was in Latex nurse. She was in Later. 478 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:14,280 Speaker 3: I was, yeah, those are you guys together. 479 00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:16,960 Speaker 4: I've never seen more extras pay more attention to even 480 00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:17,560 Speaker 4: one of us. 481 00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:21,440 Speaker 3: We were classy. We were classy, classic cats. 482 00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:22,320 Speaker 4: Sure. I love it. 483 00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:23,680 Speaker 3: I love it. 484 00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:28,320 Speaker 2: And we just had dan on because you have Bukatinski, Yes, 485 00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:31,640 Speaker 2: we did, and who adores you also said he gets 486 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:34,440 Speaker 2: video messages from you and you have a So you 487 00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:36,439 Speaker 2: have a holiday movie out right now that we've been 488 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:38,080 Speaker 2: talking about with Lindsay Lowen. 489 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:39,080 Speaker 4: What was so good? 490 00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:44,040 Speaker 3: It's so good. It's it again. You just can't be bad, evidently, y'all. 491 00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:46,879 Speaker 3: Thank you. What was it like to work with Lindsay? 492 00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:50,280 Speaker 4: It was really fun and I had met her once 493 00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:53,960 Speaker 4: again when she was younger. I mean she's still young, 494 00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:56,720 Speaker 4: but I would say fifteen probably remember when all that 495 00:23:56,960 --> 00:23:58,520 Speaker 4: craziness was surrounding her own. 496 00:23:58,600 --> 00:23:58,800 Speaker 2: Yeah. 497 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:01,119 Speaker 3: Yeah, And what was what I was. 498 00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:06,960 Speaker 4: Struck by is how Lindsay is. Well, obviously she's a 499 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:11,720 Speaker 4: complete professional, but you know, much like you caps, you know, 500 00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:14,359 Speaker 4: there's the Lindsay Lohan that we all know and a door, 501 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:17,440 Speaker 4: but then there's mom. She's a now I better, she 502 00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:21,000 Speaker 4: was a new mom and a wife, and she we 503 00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:23,480 Speaker 4: talked a lot. We didn't talk about show business a 504 00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:26,480 Speaker 4: lot we talk about to this day. We talk about 505 00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:29,200 Speaker 4: just like me and you caps. We talk about real 506 00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:33,680 Speaker 4: life stuff. And I just am so if it's okay 507 00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:35,320 Speaker 4: for me to say, I don't even know if I 508 00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:37,920 Speaker 4: should say this, but I'm so proudly at all. I'm 509 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:40,760 Speaker 4: just proud of her, her and her journey. 510 00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:41,080 Speaker 3: Yeah. 511 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:46,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, she's amazing and obviously very fun and funny person, 512 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:48,200 Speaker 4: but very lots of depth. 513 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:52,359 Speaker 1: There, lots of depth, lots of experience and so much challenge. 514 00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:54,680 Speaker 1: I mean, listen, a parent Chomp was on a loop 515 00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:57,239 Speaker 1: at my house for maybe a year or two. I'm 516 00:24:57,280 --> 00:25:00,760 Speaker 1: sure I think I've seen it upwards of forty but 517 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:03,480 Speaker 1: so also sorry just saying it played two people. 518 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:07,240 Speaker 2: She actually talks about how she really played four is 519 00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:09,280 Speaker 2: what she feels like, because you play the two girls, 520 00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:10,920 Speaker 2: and then she played the two girls switching. 521 00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:13,040 Speaker 3: Yes, that's right, that's right, that's right, and so she's like, 522 00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:15,800 Speaker 3: I really the experience for me was really like four girls. 523 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:17,920 Speaker 4: I never even thought of that. 524 00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:21,200 Speaker 3: I know, wow, super talented. 525 00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:24,480 Speaker 4: And that's where I met the Dan. And the Dan 526 00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:27,720 Speaker 4: that's he's loud, like you are my sister. He is 527 00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:31,520 Speaker 4: my brother, the Dan, and he's my day or whenever 528 00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:32,520 Speaker 4: my husband can't. 529 00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:34,639 Speaker 3: I love your husband. 530 00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:36,880 Speaker 1: By the way they were, he would falling in love 531 00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:39,359 Speaker 1: during holiday, and I just love her husband. 532 00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:41,359 Speaker 3: He's so sweet. You guys are a perfect They're just 533 00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:44,800 Speaker 3: such a great Oh you guys were like dating June holidays. 534 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:47,359 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh. Oh that's so fun. 535 00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:49,960 Speaker 1: And they're so they're so what you I mean, what 536 00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:52,480 Speaker 1: I observed and what I'm making up in my head 537 00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:55,320 Speaker 1: is you two are so good at taking care of 538 00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:56,760 Speaker 1: each other, Yes, I would. 539 00:25:56,800 --> 00:25:58,600 Speaker 3: You would just see. It was almost you didn't even 540 00:25:58,600 --> 00:25:59,200 Speaker 3: it was wordless. 541 00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:01,000 Speaker 1: Sometimes they would just give each other a look and 542 00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:04,640 Speaker 1: it literally meant I paragraph, and the other one would 543 00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:06,959 Speaker 1: pick it up and then do the thing, and they 544 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:08,160 Speaker 1: were just talking with their eyeballs. 545 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:12,439 Speaker 4: Thank you for saying that. That's when we were first dating, 546 00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:18,840 Speaker 4: and I was too I was too overwhelmed with my schedule. 547 00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:23,800 Speaker 4: And during that movie he said, I don't ever want 548 00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:26,600 Speaker 4: this to happen because I was actually having fun on 549 00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:32,040 Speaker 4: the film, but then doing concerts every weekend. It was 550 00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:34,680 Speaker 4: just too much. And then I think at one point 551 00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:37,920 Speaker 4: I almost crashed and burned, and he said, never again. Well, 552 00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:40,920 Speaker 4: if you'll let me, will I allow this to happen. 553 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:44,560 Speaker 4: And that was, however, many years ago. And one of 554 00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:46,800 Speaker 4: the reasons that one of the many reasons that I 555 00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:51,080 Speaker 4: married him is because he is interested in, Yes, the music, 556 00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:53,760 Speaker 4: he's my guitarist now and we have a lot of 557 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:56,960 Speaker 4: great fun on the road, but he is more interested 558 00:26:57,119 --> 00:27:01,479 Speaker 4: in keeping me safe and healthy. Has it's not as 559 00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:04,399 Speaker 4: easy as it used to be, So sorry, no, I 560 00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:08,240 Speaker 4: love you. It used to be and he's there to go, hey, 561 00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:11,920 Speaker 4: everybody on this team. She's just one little person. And 562 00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:14,359 Speaker 4: you know it's hard. 563 00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:18,200 Speaker 2: It's hard to say no to things too, and so 564 00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:20,880 Speaker 2: to have that person that loves you and can read 565 00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:24,480 Speaker 2: you like it's you know, listen, the team that represents 566 00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:26,800 Speaker 2: you you can say no to, but you know, at 567 00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:28,040 Speaker 2: the end of the day, they want you to be 568 00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:29,960 Speaker 2: out there doing all the opportunities. So the person that 569 00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:32,040 Speaker 2: loves you being able to advocate for you and be like, 570 00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:35,119 Speaker 2: actually no, And sometimes you don't even know that you 571 00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:35,840 Speaker 2: need to say. 572 00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:39,000 Speaker 4: No, no, I get caught up in I'm not gonna 573 00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:41,639 Speaker 4: let's just talk real, like, Okay, you're fifty six now, 574 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:44,359 Speaker 4: you want to stay relevant, you want to continue to work. 575 00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:48,119 Speaker 4: These are all real things. As women we have we 576 00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:51,760 Speaker 4: have to hear, right, And He's like, you're relevant till 577 00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:54,400 Speaker 4: the day you die. If you quit tomorrow, you've given 578 00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:57,320 Speaker 4: the world so much. Stop it right now. Anybody that 579 00:27:57,440 --> 00:27:59,560 Speaker 4: says that to you has got to go. I've got 580 00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:02,720 Speaker 4: your back. You just let your work speak for you 581 00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:05,199 Speaker 4: and stop it. And he is the balance. 582 00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:08,720 Speaker 3: I feel like standing ovation yeah no, but that's the 583 00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:12,600 Speaker 3: care taking. But that's the caretaking. And I remember, I 584 00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:13,800 Speaker 3: don't know if you remember this, Kristen. 585 00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:16,160 Speaker 1: So after we did this movie together. We just became 586 00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:20,040 Speaker 1: just very fast friends and like like family. And we 587 00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:24,000 Speaker 1: went to go see Hadestown Sit together in New York City, 588 00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:26,720 Speaker 1: and I mean, I knew she was Kristin Chena with 589 00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:29,200 Speaker 1: but I was like, I mean whatever, I've been around 590 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:32,760 Speaker 1: a lot of famous people, like going out with going 591 00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:34,280 Speaker 1: out with the famous person in New York City is 592 00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:36,080 Speaker 1: like no big deal. And you know, I mean, like 593 00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:38,240 Speaker 1: they may recognize me from Gris Anatomy when I'm walking 594 00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:40,520 Speaker 1: through that theater too, right, they might be like, look, 595 00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:41,800 Speaker 1: there's there's Jess, like a camshow. 596 00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:49,000 Speaker 3: I was pond scum, pond scum that they stepped on over. 597 00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:52,480 Speaker 1: It was I think I got like I got some 598 00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:54,960 Speaker 1: like bruises on my knees from people just knocking buy me. 599 00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:58,240 Speaker 3: Just just take her out. I would have going somewhere. 600 00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:00,560 Speaker 1: Going somewhere with her is my point is like going 601 00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:03,760 Speaker 1: with the Queen, especially I mean especially on Broadway, and 602 00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:04,520 Speaker 1: then we. 603 00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:06,080 Speaker 3: Saw them after the show is so amazing. 604 00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:08,800 Speaker 1: And then I remember coming to see you in something 605 00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:11,440 Speaker 1: and for some reason, I'm I don't remember, but I 606 00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:12,960 Speaker 1: came to see you in a show you did something 607 00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:13,560 Speaker 1: go on. 608 00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:16,200 Speaker 4: Broadway, my own concert and I was exhausted with it, 609 00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:17,720 Speaker 4: and here Jessica shows up. 610 00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:20,560 Speaker 3: You know, yes, but do you remember what happened afterwards? 611 00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:23,520 Speaker 4: I feel like there was something, well, here's so. 612 00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:25,840 Speaker 1: Along those lines, and I, like I said, I just 613 00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:27,640 Speaker 1: love her husband so much, and he and I would 614 00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:29,760 Speaker 1: we would also look at each other and sort of. 615 00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:31,240 Speaker 3: Go like, okay, we got her. 616 00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:34,560 Speaker 1: So I come to see your show, which was just 617 00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:37,280 Speaker 1: all you in a concert, and I came to see 618 00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:40,280 Speaker 1: you afterwards, and you were, I mean. 619 00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:41,480 Speaker 3: Larger than life on stage. 620 00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:44,680 Speaker 1: Cavilla like, this voice and this presence and everything about 621 00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:48,520 Speaker 1: her performance was perfect, perfect, perfect, everything you would want. 622 00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:51,240 Speaker 1: And everybody You're looking around and the lights from the 623 00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:53,960 Speaker 1: stage are on people's faces and like she's reflected in 624 00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:56,800 Speaker 1: their little glassy eyeballs and they're all just adoring and 625 00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:59,360 Speaker 1: clapping and just living their best life there. 626 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:01,280 Speaker 3: I'm lucky enough to go see. 627 00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:03,480 Speaker 1: Her afterwards, Camilla laughs at me, because I always go 628 00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:04,600 Speaker 1: see people afterwards. 629 00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:08,080 Speaker 2: That's why she does. Kristin, they let her see anyone. 630 00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:13,200 Speaker 2: Christiane escort me out before even the end of anything. 631 00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:14,880 Speaker 3: I have to leave early. 632 00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:16,400 Speaker 4: Are you that first? 633 00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:18,280 Speaker 2: I'm that person where they're like, well, we need you 634 00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:20,640 Speaker 2: to open the exit door for everyone else and hold it, 635 00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:26,080 Speaker 2: and Jessica goes and Taylor's waiting for her or whoever 636 00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:27,200 Speaker 2: is waiting for her. 637 00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:33,440 Speaker 1: So I go back and I see Kristin and Josh 638 00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:36,600 Speaker 1: Is in the room and I looked at you because 639 00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:39,080 Speaker 1: there you were in real life, and I said, you 640 00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:39,959 Speaker 1: are magnificent. 641 00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:42,240 Speaker 3: You are incredible. That was the most amazing show. 642 00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:46,920 Speaker 1: You need to take a break, I remember, naw, And 643 00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:49,680 Speaker 1: I remember being like, why am I saying this to her? 644 00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:52,400 Speaker 3: Like I shouldn't be saying this to her? What am 645 00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:54,280 Speaker 3: I doing? Like who am I to come in and 646 00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:56,239 Speaker 3: be like you should be taking a break. But there 647 00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:59,520 Speaker 3: was something, yeah, where I. 648 00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:03,120 Speaker 1: Was like, you do you are so fully committed and 649 00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:05,560 Speaker 1: you burn the candle and you are setting yourself on 650 00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:08,440 Speaker 1: fire to keep everybody else warm. And there's a moment 651 00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:13,240 Speaker 1: when the people who do know you have that that 652 00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:15,680 Speaker 1: moment of recognition where you just go, Okay, hold on, 653 00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:18,040 Speaker 1: give my girl a break. My girl needs to sit 654 00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:21,880 Speaker 1: down and like, have a cheeseburger and watch the television. 655 00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:25,440 Speaker 4: You know. I actually do remember this now, and I 656 00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:29,080 Speaker 4: think it was it was not long after we did 657 00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:33,240 Speaker 4: that movie. Yeah, it's it's a thing you know, we 658 00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:35,680 Speaker 4: all have our what do you call it, our act, 659 00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:42,240 Speaker 4: our thing, our Achilles heel. My addiction is work, and 660 00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:46,320 Speaker 4: so I have to constantly I'm there now, I'm actually 661 00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:49,000 Speaker 4: there right now. It's been forty one days and I 662 00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:52,040 Speaker 4: am there now. And now I know, like I don't 663 00:31:52,200 --> 00:32:01,440 Speaker 4: want to I want to enjoy the family and being 664 00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:04,840 Speaker 4: together with my people. And if you're always tired and 665 00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:08,920 Speaker 4: you're coming in, you know, exhausted, and it's not worth it. 666 00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:12,600 Speaker 4: And I have that problem saying no. That is my 667 00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:17,840 Speaker 4: biggest I'm sure a lot of women understand that. But yeah, 668 00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:21,160 Speaker 4: probably even on this podcast right here looking at y'all, 669 00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:24,080 Speaker 4: you probably understand it's like, oh, no, I can do 670 00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:26,480 Speaker 4: it all. I'm strong, I'm tough, I can do it all. 671 00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:27,720 Speaker 4: I should be able to do it all. But the 672 00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:30,880 Speaker 4: truth is, you just you can't continue to go at 673 00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:32,960 Speaker 4: a hundred miles an hour. No. 674 00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:33,760 Speaker 3: Oh yeah. 675 00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:49,840 Speaker 2: I want to know then, Kristin, like, when you do 676 00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:53,480 Speaker 2: your self care, when you do have that moment where 677 00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:55,000 Speaker 2: you're like, I'm going to take care of myself. 678 00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:58,120 Speaker 3: What is it that you do? What do you like 679 00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:00,600 Speaker 3: to do when you're not working? How do you yeah, 680 00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:02,160 Speaker 3: how do you take care of yourself. 681 00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:07,080 Speaker 4: It's been a self discovery part for me because I 682 00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:11,280 Speaker 4: never would allow myself breaks. So in the past few 683 00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:13,680 Speaker 4: years I've learned to do that. And some of the 684 00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:16,480 Speaker 4: things I love to do, they're very silly. I like 685 00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:18,120 Speaker 4: to be dazzle. I'm pretty good at it. 686 00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:21,320 Speaker 3: No, I love that. I would love that too. 687 00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:24,800 Speaker 4: Yep. It's very intricate and I don't use a machine. 688 00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:28,360 Speaker 4: I do it by hand each stone. I love that obviously. 689 00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:31,480 Speaker 4: I love to read. I mean just to sit down 690 00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:34,080 Speaker 4: with a really good book and to have up thirty 691 00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:36,000 Speaker 4: minutes of it of your alone time to do it. 692 00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:39,240 Speaker 4: I am a small girl, who isn't I love that. 693 00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:44,160 Speaker 4: I like going to Cabo. I like that. I like music, music, 694 00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:47,880 Speaker 4: just putting on music and or anything on anything to 695 00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:50,000 Speaker 4: binge watch. But I'm like a lot of the rest 696 00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:51,720 Speaker 4: of the world and You've heard it a million times. 697 00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:52,680 Speaker 4: I love true crime. 698 00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:55,560 Speaker 3: I love true love true crime. 699 00:33:57,120 --> 00:34:01,000 Speaker 2: Jessica, I don't know if you like true crime because, like, honestly, Kristen, 700 00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:04,280 Speaker 2: just the sound of Forensic Files coming on my TV. 701 00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:08,080 Speaker 3: I'm like, it's like it calms me. 702 00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:09,120 Speaker 4: Same. 703 00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:09,840 Speaker 2: Have you watched it? 704 00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:15,040 Speaker 4: Dateline is my I watched John Benay, I now think 705 00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:17,279 Speaker 4: the parents did not. I don't think the family did 706 00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:17,799 Speaker 4: it at all. 707 00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:19,719 Speaker 2: I'm glad we're talking abent this. I don't think they 708 00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:22,080 Speaker 2: did either. But social media is back in it, and 709 00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:25,440 Speaker 2: they they have some questions. There were no few prints 710 00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:26,879 Speaker 2: going to them from the house. 711 00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:29,240 Speaker 3: This is all I know. That's my only fact. 712 00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:32,840 Speaker 4: But remember the police watched it. If you saw lou Smitt, 713 00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:36,279 Speaker 4: which is the detective that was hired to do the case, 714 00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:39,360 Speaker 4: if you saw his back case, you would understand that 715 00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:42,080 Speaker 4: this poor And you know every time it comes up 716 00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:44,360 Speaker 4: in this port it's the sun did it and works 717 00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:45,000 Speaker 4: on dateline. 718 00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:46,400 Speaker 3: Oh, I know what you know. 719 00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:49,640 Speaker 4: I just feel bad for that family. Also, I don't 720 00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:52,640 Speaker 4: know if you're into it, if you've watched the menandas. 721 00:34:53,680 --> 00:35:01,000 Speaker 3: Monsters in fully in, I can't get close. I'm in. Kristin, 722 00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:04,640 Speaker 3: what do you think? 723 00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:05,800 Speaker 4: Should they be released? 724 00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:08,439 Speaker 3: They did get them out of there, Kristin, get them out? 725 00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:11,400 Speaker 4: Why do you think this? Why do you think it? 726 00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:12,279 Speaker 4: I just want to talk. 727 00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:14,160 Speaker 2: Can I tell you something really creepy that I haven't 728 00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:17,120 Speaker 2: admitted to anybody. I was driving to Beverly Hills and 729 00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:19,279 Speaker 2: I had to I looked up the house I drove by. 730 00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:21,160 Speaker 4: I drove by it myself last time I was there. 731 00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:24,840 Speaker 3: It's all black, Kristin. It was probably me and you 732 00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:29,440 Speaker 3: outside it parked. If we probably had a picture somewhere 733 00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:29,799 Speaker 3: with us. 734 00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:33,960 Speaker 2: Just like looking from our cars, I would there was construction, 735 00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:36,400 Speaker 2: Oh you would. When I I had no shame. It 736 00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:40,000 Speaker 2: was it was like two pm. People were out taking pictures. 737 00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:42,239 Speaker 2: There's a little construction going on when I was there, 738 00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:45,120 Speaker 2: I don't know, but yeah, well construction, yeah, the stone construction. 739 00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:49,160 Speaker 3: Oh my goodness, you too. Were you sleuthing or were 740 00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:51,560 Speaker 3: you just like you just wanted to see it. 741 00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:53,560 Speaker 4: Well, I don't know how you felt, Camela, But I 742 00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:56,680 Speaker 4: needed to revisit because I had seen that Ryan Murphy thing. 743 00:35:57,040 --> 00:36:00,959 Speaker 4: I'd seen the Real Life menandas you know, the true 744 00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:04,200 Speaker 4: crime documentary. Yeah, I thought I just need to see 745 00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:04,600 Speaker 4: the house. 746 00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:06,440 Speaker 3: I needed to see it. I needed to make some 747 00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:09,200 Speaker 3: decisions for myself as to how I felt. 748 00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:13,120 Speaker 2: Again from the car outside, it's sort of like my 749 00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:15,760 Speaker 2: own It's like my own personal investigation happened. 750 00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:19,480 Speaker 3: And I sat there and I thought, should they should 751 00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:20,319 Speaker 3: be let out? 752 00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:23,560 Speaker 4: What do you think they shot their parents? I mean, 753 00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:25,400 Speaker 4: it's horrible, right, it's horrible. 754 00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:27,239 Speaker 2: But I think they've paid for their crime. They've gone 755 00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:29,399 Speaker 2: to jail for a really long time, and I think 756 00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:33,839 Speaker 2: that the abuse was so heinous that I don't think 757 00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:35,960 Speaker 2: there are a threat to society and I think they've 758 00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:37,160 Speaker 2: paid their duties either. 759 00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:39,040 Speaker 4: I don't think Camilla that they'll get out and do 760 00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:42,839 Speaker 4: anything bad or naughty. I just think I don't want 761 00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:46,600 Speaker 4: it to be a message to others like, hey, you 762 00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:48,480 Speaker 4: get abused, you want to blow your parents away, You 763 00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:50,919 Speaker 4: might get out one day too. But do I think 764 00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:52,920 Speaker 4: that they've been in there for I think it was 765 00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:55,839 Speaker 4: a different time. I remember it was o J. Yeah. 766 00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:58,400 Speaker 3: By the way, that's what I've driven by. Is that 767 00:36:58,560 --> 00:36:59,640 Speaker 3: a part? What have you driven by? 768 00:36:59,719 --> 00:36:59,920 Speaker 4: The car? 769 00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:03,839 Speaker 3: Are no in Brentwood? Hurts the house? 770 00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:07,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, Nicole bron Simpson's. It was a little like DUPLEXI 771 00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:09,479 Speaker 1: condo e thing like. It was like five minutes away 772 00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:12,320 Speaker 1: from where I lived in high school, and it was 773 00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:15,400 Speaker 1: I mean the entire listen my high school graduation. I 774 00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:17,560 Speaker 1: think it was the day that they were they were 775 00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:23,080 Speaker 1: following the Bronco No yes, yes, yes, yes, there was 776 00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:26,120 Speaker 1: like you know, televised the I can't imagine living in 777 00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:28,760 Speaker 1: LA when that was happening, and it was five minutes 778 00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:30,400 Speaker 1: from my house, so yes, we drove by, but for 779 00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:32,600 Speaker 1: a long time it was really like the road was closed. 780 00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:36,040 Speaker 1: And then and that house didn't get it didn't get 781 00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:37,839 Speaker 1: knocked down. That's still there. Someone lives there. 782 00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:40,000 Speaker 2: Well, it's crazy that that someone clearly lives in the 783 00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:43,359 Speaker 2: Menendez house. Oh, I mean it's still there. 784 00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:44,120 Speaker 4: Knew that. 785 00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:48,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what, This is completely. 786 00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:49,919 Speaker 2: Off subject, but this is what I asked my brother 787 00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:52,040 Speaker 2: because I told him I duramed by there. I said, 788 00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:56,160 Speaker 2: would you ever live in a house that you knew 789 00:37:56,760 --> 00:38:00,480 Speaker 2: a murder had taken place in? And I don't care 790 00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:04,280 Speaker 2: how many ghosts are in there? It's a sixth bedroom. 791 00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:10,719 Speaker 3: He doesn't care. He doesn't care, he doesn't care. 792 00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:13,759 Speaker 4: I'm glad that you like the crime too. 793 00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:14,680 Speaker 3: I love. 794 00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:17,400 Speaker 1: The only one that I got really into was in 795 00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:19,960 Speaker 1: the beginning, and actually it was podcast which was cereal. 796 00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:20,799 Speaker 4: Hello. 797 00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:22,799 Speaker 3: Did you ever listen to that? The early one? 798 00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:23,359 Speaker 4: Yes? 799 00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:24,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, Kristen. 800 00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:27,080 Speaker 2: Do you know we're going to tell you we Jessica 801 00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:29,640 Speaker 2: and I kind of part of a true crime documentary 802 00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:30,400 Speaker 2: that's out right now. 803 00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:33,480 Speaker 3: You don't know. I'm gonna let Jessica tell you it. 804 00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:35,200 Speaker 2: Because I don't even know if I want to promote it, 805 00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:37,239 Speaker 2: to be honest, but we are part of something and 806 00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:39,960 Speaker 2: it's well, Jess, you got to drop her the deats. 807 00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:42,360 Speaker 1: We talked to Dan Bukatinski about it as well, because 808 00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:44,239 Speaker 1: I don't know if you know this about him, but 809 00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:47,640 Speaker 1: we met him, well, I met him a couple times 810 00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:49,399 Speaker 1: with his husband, with Don and all that. But then 811 00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:53,239 Speaker 1: he came to Grays as a writer and he was 812 00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:56,760 Speaker 1: on the writing staff with a woman named Elizabeth Finch, 813 00:38:57,440 --> 00:38:59,919 Speaker 1: who there has recently been a documentary about who based 814 00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:06,840 Speaker 1: fabricated entire art of her life, including surviving cancer, surviving 815 00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:10,239 Speaker 1: just a lot, a lot, but she completely lied about 816 00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:12,880 Speaker 1: all of it and was in like real relationship and 817 00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:14,520 Speaker 1: friendship the way that we all are when we're on 818 00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:16,000 Speaker 1: sets and sitting by chairs, and. 819 00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:18,880 Speaker 3: For years, like we were very close to her for 820 00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:20,280 Speaker 3: years years. 821 00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:22,200 Speaker 4: How did we not start the interview with this? 822 00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:26,080 Speaker 3: We had to, We had to eat to ease you 823 00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:29,319 Speaker 3: in with We needed your trust, she needed your trust first. 824 00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:31,800 Speaker 4: You got my trust. But like I've seen the commercials 825 00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:35,960 Speaker 4: about the Finch girl, Yeah, classic narcissism. 826 00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:39,360 Speaker 3: I'm not yeah, oh well, yeah, I don't know. I 827 00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:40,880 Speaker 3: don't know. I have opinions. 828 00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:42,400 Speaker 2: I'm not going to stay it on the pod, but 829 00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:45,040 Speaker 2: we will all grab wine and we will we will 830 00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:46,480 Speaker 2: discuss what I think. 831 00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:51,160 Speaker 4: Okay, you know there's always I shouldn't say this. When 832 00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:53,600 Speaker 4: I first hit it in the in the small way 833 00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:56,280 Speaker 4: that I did with Wicked, there was a girl. 834 00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:59,920 Speaker 3: That musical did. What is that musical? Yes, you know 835 00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:05,480 Speaker 3: it's a long time off off off Broadway, that's right. 836 00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:09,239 Speaker 4: I was a girl. I can't say her name because 837 00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:10,920 Speaker 4: she ended up. Did she get to go to prison? 838 00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:13,560 Speaker 4: But she she started out telling me that she had 839 00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:16,600 Speaker 4: She she would come to the show every night and 840 00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:19,520 Speaker 4: she would sit in the same seat or near around, 841 00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:21,640 Speaker 4: you know, the same area, and she would come to 842 00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:24,560 Speaker 4: the State Shore. And I got to know her because 843 00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:26,680 Speaker 4: I would see her every night. And then she would 844 00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:30,360 Speaker 4: start leaving. She would start leaving me small gifts and 845 00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:33,319 Speaker 4: I would go, oh, my gosh, thank you X, thank 846 00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:35,760 Speaker 4: you so much for the gift. And then it started 847 00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:38,239 Speaker 4: becoming like a Louis Vuitton purse. And I was like, 848 00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:41,680 Speaker 4: I said, oh, I can't accept that, but inside I 849 00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:46,200 Speaker 4: wanted to so bad obviously, and then she she said, no, 850 00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:48,680 Speaker 4: I want you to have it. And then the next 851 00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:52,840 Speaker 4: week it'd be like a Valentino shawl and I'm like, I. 852 00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:54,640 Speaker 3: Have the name and the number. I need her. 853 00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:59,160 Speaker 4: Oh yes, I'm telling you possibly as I'm taking it 854 00:40:59,239 --> 00:40:59,880 Speaker 4: from her hands. 855 00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:00,600 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah. 856 00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:04,960 Speaker 4: And it got to where she became in my in 857 00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:06,680 Speaker 4: my group, you know, she was there every night, and 858 00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:11,480 Speaker 4: then she got herself backstage everybody, and then she loaded 859 00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:14,080 Speaker 4: on me that she had liver cancer and that she 860 00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:16,560 Speaker 4: didn't have long to live. Now a lot of people 861 00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:19,719 Speaker 4: in our industry have had this happen to them, but 862 00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:22,279 Speaker 4: I was so sad for her and how can I 863 00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:25,680 Speaker 4: help and what can I do? And I did a 864 00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:29,800 Speaker 4: benefit concert for her to help her raise money for 865 00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:34,960 Speaker 4: her for her come to find out she wasn't sick 866 00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:38,239 Speaker 4: at all, and she'd done this to me. I think 867 00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:42,560 Speaker 4: Kirsten Dunce and the actress Cherry Jones, and she's professional, 868 00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:48,480 Speaker 4: I guess, grifter, like yeah, all this stuff, and I 869 00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:51,880 Speaker 4: think this Finch girl might thought there's something that happens. 870 00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:54,359 Speaker 4: They get in with your that they're ill and then 871 00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:57,000 Speaker 4: they get you in that way. And of course who 872 00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:01,320 Speaker 4: I'm sure imagining that you all can and you felt 873 00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:03,120 Speaker 4: that like, well, that's what. 874 00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:05,000 Speaker 1: We said was that you were never It was a 875 00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:08,120 Speaker 1: perfect crime, right, because you're never going to say to 876 00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:11,960 Speaker 1: someone never are Is that true? Is that true that 877 00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:14,800 Speaker 1: you that this awful thing happened. You're never going to 878 00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:15,080 Speaker 1: do that. 879 00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:15,440 Speaker 4: Never. 880 00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:17,760 Speaker 3: That's wild that you did a concert. 881 00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:19,480 Speaker 2: You know what's scary about this is the more we 882 00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:22,239 Speaker 2: talk about this, the more people have experiences with this, 883 00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:24,880 Speaker 2: you think it's so crazy that, like, this is so 884 00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:27,960 Speaker 2: incredibly rare, and then you realize Dan had knew somebody 885 00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:31,440 Speaker 2: else I had done this too, But yes, he and 886 00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:33,480 Speaker 2: don Yes, you know. 887 00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:35,920 Speaker 4: It is very common, and I think they must want 888 00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:37,520 Speaker 4: to look for a way in. And what I want 889 00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:40,600 Speaker 4: to say to them is just be yourselves. And by 890 00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:45,279 Speaker 4: the way, you don't it's not you know, we're going 891 00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:46,800 Speaker 4: to get to know who, We're going to get to know, 892 00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:49,800 Speaker 4: and it's going to happen the way organically, or it 893 00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:52,200 Speaker 4: might not just happen. It's just we're in the public eye. 894 00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:54,960 Speaker 4: And I don't even know why I'm trying to say. 895 00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:57,640 Speaker 4: I felt so bad for her, and then I got 896 00:42:57,800 --> 00:43:01,560 Speaker 4: so duped and then now what unfortunately it has done. 897 00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:03,200 Speaker 4: And I'm sure you know what I mean. Where I'm 898 00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:07,080 Speaker 4: going with this anytime someone says to me, like they'll 899 00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:10,480 Speaker 4: make me backstage or after a premiere or something and 900 00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:13,400 Speaker 4: they'll say, you know, I too, I have a thing 901 00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:15,680 Speaker 4: called Theeer's disease. It doesn't matter what CAPS knows. It's 902 00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:16,200 Speaker 4: like vertigo. 903 00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:18,560 Speaker 3: I know what that is because I have tonight is 904 00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:21,920 Speaker 3: how are you doing? I'm doing good. 905 00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:22,200 Speaker 2: We had it. 906 00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:24,000 Speaker 3: We actually had a whole episode on this. But I 907 00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:26,120 Speaker 3: know that that is that can be part of it, 908 00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:30,800 Speaker 3: and I I yeah, so I I know all about that. 909 00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:32,759 Speaker 3: But anyway, I will let you continue to storry. 910 00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:34,480 Speaker 4: But I do know what that is that you know, 911 00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:37,640 Speaker 4: you don't have to have my disease or you don't 912 00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:40,120 Speaker 4: have to. That's not a way in. That should never 913 00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:43,080 Speaker 4: be a way in anybody. I didn't you know tonight 914 00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:46,719 Speaker 4: is that comes with mineers. So I'm sorry that you 915 00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:47,160 Speaker 4: have that. 916 00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:50,560 Speaker 2: That's okay, I know it, and that's okay. You know 917 00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:55,759 Speaker 2: what I've I you It becomes normal, it comes par 918 00:43:55,920 --> 00:44:03,360 Speaker 2: your life. We can't you go without talking about Wicked, 919 00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:05,360 Speaker 2: of course, I. 920 00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:07,239 Speaker 4: Mean we must because we have to. 921 00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:08,520 Speaker 3: We must be. 922 00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:13,080 Speaker 1: We have because you're the original, because you originated this 923 00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:18,640 Speaker 1: glorious character, and you gave so much to it and 924 00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:24,160 Speaker 1: and you are like, You're an impossible standard to meet, 925 00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:29,320 Speaker 1: but you are. You set Glinda as this incredible standard. 926 00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:33,240 Speaker 1: And and somehow as we're seeing this now in movie theaters, 927 00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:36,759 Speaker 1: which is so incredible, and I love those two performers. 928 00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:38,560 Speaker 3: I love the movie so much. 929 00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:43,279 Speaker 1: The music is I mean, just gonna I'm gonna go 930 00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:45,000 Speaker 1: against and swim against the grain here. 931 00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:47,320 Speaker 3: When I went to go see the movie, I was like, 932 00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:49,279 Speaker 3: I know this music, like it's gonna be great. 933 00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:51,160 Speaker 1: I'm sure, but like I know it like it's not 934 00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:53,080 Speaker 1: gonna it's not gonna be you know, it's not gonna 935 00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:56,080 Speaker 1: be like that first time that I heard it and whatever, it's. 936 00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:59,080 Speaker 3: Gonna be fine. I go see the movie. I loved it. 937 00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:01,120 Speaker 1: I love but I still was like, I know, I 938 00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:04,800 Speaker 1: know the music. I have not stopped singing the music. 939 00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:07,279 Speaker 1: The girls have been like, can you put that on again? 940 00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:09,879 Speaker 1: Can we do define gravity again? Can we do popular again? 941 00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:13,120 Speaker 2: And now I'm like, yes we can. You know we 942 00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:17,400 Speaker 2: can do it on uh loop, Let's just keep doing it. So, Kristin, 943 00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:19,320 Speaker 2: I want to ask you because you made a comment. Okay, 944 00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:23,799 Speaker 2: So the Ariana and Cynthia have been getting a little 945 00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:27,640 Speaker 2: they've been getting some crap right for the press tour 946 00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:31,719 Speaker 2: and them being so mushy with each other, and I 947 00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:34,960 Speaker 2: love it. I'm hook line and Sinker for I love it. 948 00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:39,160 Speaker 2: I think I think their bond is incredible. And I 949 00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:43,200 Speaker 2: read that you made a comment that you said, that 950 00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:47,720 Speaker 2: is the bond that you end up having playing these characters, 951 00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:49,440 Speaker 2: like you totally get it. 952 00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:51,920 Speaker 3: Can you speak to that a little bit. 953 00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:56,960 Speaker 4: There's only one other person on this planet that understands 954 00:45:57,560 --> 00:46:00,760 Speaker 4: what it was like creating those parts, and that's Dina Monzelle. 955 00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:05,960 Speaker 4: And we you know, this was before girls be together, 956 00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:09,719 Speaker 4: girls supporting each other. This was before me too. This 957 00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:16,239 Speaker 4: was and there we found ourselves very different actors but 958 00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:21,279 Speaker 4: coming together. And I mean, I don't I don't want 959 00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:23,040 Speaker 4: to say this about us, but I will say it 960 00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:26,920 Speaker 4: about it. We created magic together. And when I her, 961 00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:30,600 Speaker 4: when I look at her across the room, only she 962 00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:36,480 Speaker 4: and I know what it was and on stage and 963 00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:39,799 Speaker 4: how we and so we have this feeling of, oh, 964 00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:42,919 Speaker 4: please let it be a wonderful movie. And I've said 965 00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:46,200 Speaker 4: this story many times because it's the truth. Ari came 966 00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:50,279 Speaker 4: backstage and when she was ten to meet me, and 967 00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:53,480 Speaker 4: that she was with her grandma Nonah and I met 968 00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:55,840 Speaker 4: her and she said, I want to thank Glinda and 969 00:46:55,960 --> 00:47:01,760 Speaker 4: I said, oh, okay, here we go. Her grandmother said 970 00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:04,759 Speaker 4: you should. You should hear her sing and she kind 971 00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:08,320 Speaker 4: of sang something. I went whoa. I went whoa, and 972 00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:12,600 Speaker 4: we became That's when our relationship started when she was ten. 973 00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:15,879 Speaker 4: We we've worked together before. I've been in her life 974 00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:18,160 Speaker 4: for a long time. I remember her calling me saying, 975 00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:20,200 Speaker 4: I have this, I have this all I wanted to 976 00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:22,680 Speaker 4: play for you, and it was thank you. Next, I 977 00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:26,600 Speaker 4: think you're going to be fine. And then she called 978 00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:31,399 Speaker 4: me and said that's what I'm auditioning for Gwindo here 979 00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:34,520 Speaker 4: in COVID and I and she goes, what do I do? 980 00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:39,960 Speaker 4: I said, you're you? Do you? I just remember saying 981 00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:43,520 Speaker 4: I knew don't touch her, like, just don't just let 982 00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:46,040 Speaker 4: her do it because she's so gifted. I didn't want 983 00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:48,080 Speaker 4: to mess with it, and she didn't really ask me to, 984 00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:49,919 Speaker 4: but she did say what do I do? And I said, 985 00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:52,719 Speaker 4: just be you? And then she called me. I got 986 00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:55,479 Speaker 4: the call back and then of course she gets the part. 987 00:47:56,040 --> 00:47:59,880 Speaker 4: And then I went to the New York we had this. 988 00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:02,360 Speaker 4: They had a screening for the Broadway community, which I 989 00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:05,759 Speaker 4: thought was very lovely that Universal did that. But she 990 00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:10,640 Speaker 4: was holding my hand through the movie. I was talking 991 00:48:10,719 --> 00:48:14,160 Speaker 4: with her a lot through the process, but I think 992 00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:18,840 Speaker 4: she just wanted to hold my hand. And after the 993 00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:21,840 Speaker 4: movie she I was bald. I was bawling through the 994 00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:26,719 Speaker 4: whole thing, just bawling. And that's that's the truth. And 995 00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:29,719 Speaker 4: after the movie she said, are you proud of me? 996 00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:32,759 Speaker 3: Oh my god, I'm getting so emotional listening to this 997 00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:34,120 Speaker 3: right now, and I'm. 998 00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:38,000 Speaker 4: So proud of you. Are you? I'm so proud of you? 999 00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:42,320 Speaker 4: I mean, what could I say? She was wonderful, she added, 1000 00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:45,680 Speaker 4: she paid homage to me, but she did her own thing, 1001 00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:50,680 Speaker 4: just like Cynthia did with Adena. And recently, Adena and 1002 00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:53,759 Speaker 4: I were at the La premiere and we both we 1003 00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:55,399 Speaker 4: were on the red carpet. We just looked at each 1004 00:48:55,400 --> 00:48:59,560 Speaker 4: other and went, wow. You know, you think maybe something 1005 00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:02,719 Speaker 4: that you will be in once, maybe will land on 1006 00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:06,799 Speaker 4: the earth and maybe someone will remember it. But never 1007 00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:09,080 Speaker 4: did I think I would be alive to see it. 1008 00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:13,200 Speaker 4: And you know, it's a it's I'm very grateful. I'm 1009 00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:15,440 Speaker 4: very grateful for it. I'm grateful it was in the 1010 00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:17,959 Speaker 4: hands of John Chu that it was in the hands 1011 00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:22,160 Speaker 4: of Ariana Grande and Cynthia Rivo, who didn't just not 1012 00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:25,120 Speaker 4: disappoint but and I believe me, I'm not getting paid. 1013 00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:28,560 Speaker 4: I only speak from the from my heart. And I 1014 00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:31,800 Speaker 4: was so, oh, my gosh, so proud of them, and 1015 00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:37,400 Speaker 4: it was finally a release of I didn't and now 1016 00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:38,640 Speaker 4: they're doing theirs, you know. 1017 00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:58,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, when you talk about the origin story and being 1018 00:49:58,640 --> 00:50:04,480 Speaker 1: there with a Dina and creating these parts, I think 1019 00:50:04,520 --> 00:50:06,799 Speaker 1: it's probably too simple to ask if it was hard. 1020 00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:15,279 Speaker 3: But when you were talking, I felt from you that 1021 00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:17,560 Speaker 3: there's story there, like putting it together? 1022 00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:20,080 Speaker 1: Was it because we just see the final product, We 1023 00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:22,400 Speaker 1: just see the oh, I mean like we see the 1024 00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:25,000 Speaker 1: we see the grandness and the beauty and all that. 1025 00:50:25,160 --> 00:50:26,800 Speaker 3: But like when you were first doing it and you 1026 00:50:26,840 --> 00:50:29,479 Speaker 3: were in rehearsals, was it was it hard? 1027 00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:31,760 Speaker 4: Yeah? Remember we had no template. 1028 00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:32,560 Speaker 3: What do you mean? 1029 00:50:33,080 --> 00:50:35,240 Speaker 4: We had no There was no movie. There was a book, 1030 00:50:35,320 --> 00:50:40,719 Speaker 4: but nothing like the musical. And I remember for a 1031 00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:44,000 Speaker 4: long time it felt like, I mean, we were together, 1032 00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:46,120 Speaker 4: but she was in her corner and I was in mine. 1033 00:50:46,200 --> 00:50:48,600 Speaker 4: We were trying to figure out our own parts and 1034 00:50:48,719 --> 00:50:51,759 Speaker 4: then we would come together and I just want to 1035 00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:56,719 Speaker 4: brag on her for a second. She really you know, 1036 00:50:57,040 --> 00:50:59,320 Speaker 4: I had to be a lot of the comedic relief 1037 00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:01,960 Speaker 4: in that. And then and at the end, Glinda grows 1038 00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:05,040 Speaker 4: and there's a lot of depth there, but a Dina. 1039 00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:08,719 Speaker 4: You know, there's there's something that we're hearing over and 1040 00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:12,000 Speaker 4: over right now, and it's the battle cry. I want 1041 00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:14,200 Speaker 4: to make sure everybody knows how that was born, because 1042 00:51:14,239 --> 00:51:18,839 Speaker 4: she probably wouldn't say it, but it was the We've 1043 00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:21,919 Speaker 4: all heard it a million times. Yeah. I remember being 1044 00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:25,040 Speaker 4: in rehearsal and I had listen. I had been given 1045 00:51:25,120 --> 00:51:29,360 Speaker 4: free reign to do Glinda, and I did to the 1046 00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:32,359 Speaker 4: nth degree and even wrote some of the lines. I mean, 1047 00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:36,000 Speaker 4: I was busy. I was busy, but I remember the 1048 00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:41,040 Speaker 4: day in rehearsal, Dina just been given the chance to 1049 00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:44,680 Speaker 4: be green for a second for the first time, and 1050 00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:47,840 Speaker 4: she was doing fine gravity and I remember at the 1051 00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:54,120 Speaker 4: end it's not written, Ah, it's not written. I just 1052 00:51:54,239 --> 00:52:02,880 Speaker 4: remember going let me down. Ah. And I want it 1053 00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:07,319 Speaker 4: to be known that, you know, there's things I bore, 1054 00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:10,520 Speaker 4: the hair flip, the dialogue, there's things I did, but 1055 00:52:12,600 --> 00:52:15,799 Speaker 4: that's us together, and that's you know, that was us 1056 00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:20,200 Speaker 4: being given free rein and was it always easy? No, 1057 00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:24,960 Speaker 4: we had no, we had no, we didn't know what 1058 00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:27,640 Speaker 4: we're doing. We opened it in San Francisco, and I 1059 00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:32,360 Speaker 4: remember after coming down in the bubble and then define gravity. 1060 00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:35,560 Speaker 4: I went to her intermission and I said, it ain't 1061 00:52:35,600 --> 00:52:39,600 Speaker 4: gonna matter what the critics say, as the people love it. 1062 00:52:39,719 --> 00:52:43,480 Speaker 4: And she was she was, oh, my god, great about 1063 00:52:43,880 --> 00:52:45,800 Speaker 4: am I sounding good? Am I doing good? Shit was 1064 00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:47,279 Speaker 4: amazing all the time. 1065 00:52:47,719 --> 00:52:50,160 Speaker 1: By the way, pause right there right, someone who we 1066 00:52:50,280 --> 00:52:55,560 Speaker 1: all know as magnificent was wondering if she was okay, Like. 1067 00:52:56,239 --> 00:52:59,680 Speaker 3: We all have self doubt, we all doubt ourselves. 1068 00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:03,120 Speaker 4: Hello, I was like, is it funny? Listen, no matter 1069 00:53:03,200 --> 00:53:05,560 Speaker 4: who you are, no matter who you are, you're going 1070 00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:08,640 Speaker 4: to question. That's I think that's one of the things 1071 00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:11,799 Speaker 4: that makes people great is that they hearn so much, 1072 00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:14,200 Speaker 4: they care so much, and then ultimately you have to 1073 00:53:14,280 --> 00:53:19,400 Speaker 4: shud that and go it doesn't matter. I'm gonna do it. 1074 00:53:20,080 --> 00:53:22,880 Speaker 4: And so when I hear Cynthia doing her version of that, 1075 00:53:23,040 --> 00:53:26,600 Speaker 4: which is very different, I think I know where that 1076 00:53:26,760 --> 00:53:32,239 Speaker 4: was born. And then Cynthia is allowed to come into 1077 00:53:32,360 --> 00:53:35,920 Speaker 4: hers It's the passing of the broom, so to speak. 1078 00:53:36,040 --> 00:53:39,640 Speaker 4: Wand if you're lucky enough to have something in your 1079 00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:43,240 Speaker 4: career like you both have had, that you can attach 1080 00:53:43,320 --> 00:53:46,840 Speaker 4: yourself to that. To this day, if I do a 1081 00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:49,640 Speaker 4: concert and I don't sing popular or any songs that 1082 00:53:49,680 --> 00:53:54,719 Speaker 4: are attached to me, I could get shot all my 1083 00:53:54,800 --> 00:53:57,800 Speaker 4: money back. That's right, and I will always do it always. 1084 00:53:58,160 --> 00:54:00,640 Speaker 1: But what's really important, So this podcas was born of 1085 00:54:00,680 --> 00:54:03,080 Speaker 1: our friendship and our connection on you know, a show that, 1086 00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:06,480 Speaker 1: like you said, managed managed to grab. 1087 00:54:06,320 --> 00:54:07,640 Speaker 3: People and give them comfort. 1088 00:54:08,360 --> 00:54:10,960 Speaker 1: And we we we have, you know, a group of 1089 00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:14,360 Speaker 1: people that have that has grown since we started, and 1090 00:54:14,440 --> 00:54:16,600 Speaker 1: we call them the crew, and it's the call it Crew. 1091 00:54:16,719 --> 00:54:19,560 Speaker 1: And they they write in and they call in, and 1092 00:54:20,080 --> 00:54:23,200 Speaker 1: they do so with such bravery and such vulnerability. And 1093 00:54:23,560 --> 00:54:26,360 Speaker 1: many times, you know, we talk about how loneliness is 1094 00:54:26,400 --> 00:54:28,959 Speaker 1: a real epidemic, and it's been it's been. 1095 00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:32,960 Speaker 3: Understood, stated and and and articulated. 1096 00:54:32,480 --> 00:54:35,560 Speaker 1: Very well that this is happening, that there are people 1097 00:54:35,560 --> 00:54:38,520 Speaker 1: who are lonely, and when people are lonely, what do 1098 00:54:38,640 --> 00:54:41,640 Speaker 1: they do? And lots of times if they doubt themselves 1099 00:54:41,680 --> 00:54:43,840 Speaker 1: and they write in with all these different things. But 1100 00:54:43,920 --> 00:54:47,279 Speaker 1: that's but it's a real thread that's through many of them, 1101 00:54:47,320 --> 00:54:48,920 Speaker 1: which is like, how do I know if I'm on 1102 00:54:48,960 --> 00:54:50,520 Speaker 1: the right path, How do I know when to start 1103 00:54:50,560 --> 00:54:52,759 Speaker 1: my family? How do I know about this friend that's 1104 00:54:52,800 --> 00:54:53,719 Speaker 1: like doesn't feel right? 1105 00:54:53,800 --> 00:54:54,560 Speaker 3: But I don't know. 1106 00:54:54,640 --> 00:54:56,759 Speaker 1: I really love them and I can't imagine not having them, 1107 00:54:57,040 --> 00:54:59,399 Speaker 1: but this doubt, doubt, doubt, And I think it's always 1108 00:54:59,440 --> 00:55:02,560 Speaker 1: so important to remember that these people that you think 1109 00:55:02,600 --> 00:55:05,040 Speaker 1: are larger than life and that have no worries in 1110 00:55:05,120 --> 00:55:07,560 Speaker 1: the world or just came upon this thing and magically 1111 00:55:07,600 --> 00:55:10,440 Speaker 1: opened up their mouths and had this ah, and. 1112 00:55:10,520 --> 00:55:13,160 Speaker 3: Then it's hard one, and that you doubt yourself and you. 1113 00:55:13,239 --> 00:55:16,160 Speaker 1: Think it's not right, and you're sometimes not brave enough 1114 00:55:16,239 --> 00:55:18,160 Speaker 1: to sing it the loudest and sometimes you're not even 1115 00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:20,560 Speaker 1: brave enough to sing it at all, But that these 1116 00:55:20,640 --> 00:55:23,120 Speaker 1: are the moments that make us human and connect us. 1117 00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:26,200 Speaker 1: And so you two, having born witness to that struggle 1118 00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:30,719 Speaker 1: and that definition of self and character is so important. 1119 00:55:31,680 --> 00:55:33,920 Speaker 4: I'm so glad that y'all talk about these things on 1120 00:55:34,040 --> 00:55:38,759 Speaker 4: your show on your podcast, because I think I don't 1121 00:55:38,800 --> 00:55:40,800 Speaker 4: know how you feel, but it feels like and it 1122 00:55:40,880 --> 00:55:43,240 Speaker 4: doesn't matter if you're a performer or an accountant or whatever, 1123 00:55:43,560 --> 00:55:46,279 Speaker 4: no matter how successful, you get with more success or 1124 00:55:46,360 --> 00:55:50,800 Speaker 4: becomes more pressure. Yeah, and I even find myself thinking, 1125 00:55:51,760 --> 00:55:53,279 Speaker 4: oh my gosh, what am I doing here, I'm a 1126 00:55:53,320 --> 00:55:58,480 Speaker 4: big loser. People can see through me. I'm just faking it. No, 1127 00:55:58,960 --> 00:56:01,080 Speaker 4: that's the devil talk. And as my mother would say, 1128 00:56:01,560 --> 00:56:04,719 Speaker 4: that's the negative. And we can all let it in. 1129 00:56:05,560 --> 00:56:07,840 Speaker 4: We can all let it in and it doesn't it 1130 00:56:07,920 --> 00:56:09,719 Speaker 4: doesn't matter who you are, you have it, and it's 1131 00:56:09,840 --> 00:56:13,840 Speaker 4: it's nice to hear there's it's nice that there's conversations 1132 00:56:13,920 --> 00:56:16,160 Speaker 4: like this that people know that no matter who you are, 1133 00:56:17,200 --> 00:56:20,279 Speaker 4: famous not famous, success will not so so it doesn't matter. 1134 00:56:20,520 --> 00:56:24,200 Speaker 4: We all have the insecurity. We all just do. It's 1135 00:56:24,239 --> 00:56:24,760 Speaker 4: we're human. 1136 00:56:25,440 --> 00:56:28,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you know what. I love that you said 1137 00:56:28,200 --> 00:56:28,320 Speaker 3: to you. 1138 00:56:28,480 --> 00:56:30,319 Speaker 2: I love that you said that their battle cries were 1139 00:56:30,360 --> 00:56:32,759 Speaker 2: different because it got me thinking, like, well, what's my 1140 00:56:33,000 --> 00:56:34,239 Speaker 2: version of my battle cry? 1141 00:56:34,600 --> 00:56:36,200 Speaker 4: Very Well said yeah, you. 1142 00:56:36,280 --> 00:56:38,320 Speaker 3: Know, like what's mine? Oh, I'm going to hear it 1143 00:56:38,400 --> 00:56:40,359 Speaker 3: later right after. 1144 00:56:40,920 --> 00:56:43,880 Speaker 4: Want to do the video of that. 1145 00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:47,200 Speaker 3: It's coming. I got to practice it. I don't know 1146 00:56:47,239 --> 00:56:50,000 Speaker 3: what it is, Kristen, but it's going to be pretty amazing. 1147 00:56:50,320 --> 00:56:51,320 Speaker 3: It's pretty amazing. 1148 00:56:51,760 --> 00:56:55,719 Speaker 4: I think that we should encourage all women, especially women, 1149 00:56:55,800 --> 00:56:59,600 Speaker 4: to find their own battle cry. Actually, because my gosh, 1150 00:56:59,640 --> 00:57:02,680 Speaker 4: it's hard enough. And and to have like you two, 1151 00:57:02,800 --> 00:57:06,000 Speaker 4: who are good friends, I'd love to see it women 1152 00:57:06,080 --> 00:57:10,359 Speaker 4: supporting women and that it's there's room for everybody at 1153 00:57:10,360 --> 00:57:13,520 Speaker 4: the top. All of this is true when I was younger. 1154 00:57:13,719 --> 00:57:15,440 Speaker 4: I'll just tell you, when I was younger and boy 1155 00:57:15,520 --> 00:57:17,920 Speaker 4: cannot talk. But when I was younger, it was not 1156 00:57:19,640 --> 00:57:23,200 Speaker 4: it was you got to you got it. It's all 1157 00:57:23,320 --> 00:57:25,960 Speaker 4: You're on your own. You're on your own. And now 1158 00:57:26,040 --> 00:57:29,160 Speaker 4: with this women power thing, I'm thinking, thank goodness because 1159 00:57:29,200 --> 00:57:33,080 Speaker 4: this is always felt natural to me. Instead of pitting women, 1160 00:57:33,160 --> 00:57:35,760 Speaker 4: it would be easy. It would have been easy, I think, 1161 00:57:35,840 --> 00:57:38,120 Speaker 4: for Adena and I to have been pitted against each other. 1162 00:57:38,160 --> 00:57:40,360 Speaker 4: And I think and whenever that might have crept in, 1163 00:57:40,480 --> 00:57:43,360 Speaker 4: we both went h. We have a job to do 1164 00:57:43,600 --> 00:57:47,439 Speaker 4: and we have goals to create. But now it's even 1165 00:57:47,640 --> 00:57:51,240 Speaker 4: like you look at Ariana and Cynthia holding each other's hand, 1166 00:57:53,560 --> 00:57:55,760 Speaker 4: seeing each other. I don't mind it one bit. I'm 1167 00:57:55,800 --> 00:57:57,960 Speaker 4: here for it, just like I'm here for Travis Kelsey 1168 00:57:58,000 --> 00:58:00,520 Speaker 4: and Taylor Swift's love. I'm here. 1169 00:58:00,680 --> 00:58:03,560 Speaker 3: We're for girls, same we're here for it. We're here 1170 00:58:03,800 --> 00:58:04,200 Speaker 3: for it all. 1171 00:58:04,920 --> 00:58:05,120 Speaker 4: I know. 1172 00:58:05,240 --> 00:58:06,120 Speaker 3: I'm here for the good. 1173 00:58:06,160 --> 00:58:09,040 Speaker 1: The good that I mean, it's just it's very inspiring 1174 00:58:09,360 --> 00:58:12,120 Speaker 1: and I love that there's just the freedom to share it, 1175 00:58:12,440 --> 00:58:13,760 Speaker 1: you know, to share the stories. 1176 00:58:14,680 --> 00:58:18,400 Speaker 3: Kristin. I am thank you so much for you podcast. 1177 00:58:19,040 --> 00:58:21,680 Speaker 3: You you want your number so that you can send 1178 00:58:21,760 --> 00:58:25,400 Speaker 3: me videos to I. 1179 00:58:25,440 --> 00:58:27,040 Speaker 4: Will send you videos from the tub. 1180 00:58:27,480 --> 00:58:31,439 Speaker 3: I want all of them. I'm not kidding. I don't 1181 00:58:31,480 --> 00:58:32,120 Speaker 3: care where you are. 1182 00:58:32,640 --> 00:58:34,800 Speaker 1: One time she sent me, I went to go, like 1183 00:58:34,880 --> 00:58:36,520 Speaker 1: click on the video she sent me, but it was 1184 00:58:36,560 --> 00:58:38,920 Speaker 1: just dark. It was black and it was because it 1185 00:58:39,040 --> 00:58:39,760 Speaker 1: was nighttime and. 1186 00:58:39,800 --> 00:58:41,680 Speaker 3: All the lights were off. But She's still send me 1187 00:58:41,720 --> 00:58:43,000 Speaker 3: a video instead of a voice. 1188 00:58:43,040 --> 00:58:43,200 Speaker 4: Note. 1189 00:58:43,280 --> 00:58:45,880 Speaker 3: I don't even I don't care how dark it is, Kristin. 1190 00:58:45,920 --> 00:58:47,840 Speaker 4: Okay, I know. 1191 00:58:48,160 --> 00:58:49,080 Speaker 3: I just love you. 1192 00:58:49,640 --> 00:58:51,520 Speaker 4: I love you guys. You're amazing. 1193 00:58:51,960 --> 00:58:56,360 Speaker 3: Thank you so much. You're the best. I'm calling I'm 1194 00:58:56,400 --> 00:59:03,000 Speaker 3: calling you in a minute. I love you. Goodbye. That 1195 00:59:03,120 --> 00:59:04,880 Speaker 3: was literally I'm not even kidding when I say that 1196 00:59:04,920 --> 00:59:06,600 Speaker 3: was one of my favorite interviews we've ever done. 1197 00:59:07,520 --> 00:59:12,360 Speaker 2: I'm obsessed. It's not even funny. I'm like, I loved 1198 00:59:12,400 --> 00:59:15,920 Speaker 2: her before she came on, but now I'm like next level. 1199 00:59:16,480 --> 00:59:17,920 Speaker 3: By the way, I'm gonna give you her numbers. I'm 1200 00:59:17,920 --> 00:59:20,520 Speaker 3: not she's not joking. I'm not kidding. She's amazing. 1201 00:59:20,720 --> 00:59:23,240 Speaker 1: But also, can I just say something, I felt like 1202 00:59:23,840 --> 00:59:26,640 Speaker 1: you were super on too, like you had great questions 1203 00:59:26,680 --> 00:59:28,160 Speaker 1: and great connection points. 1204 00:59:28,760 --> 00:59:31,720 Speaker 3: It's because I'm a professional. Do you just slur when 1205 00:59:31,760 --> 00:59:35,880 Speaker 3: you said professional? I mean I've been drinking. I've been drinking. 1206 00:59:36,120 --> 00:59:39,440 Speaker 3: I haven't drinking. Maybe that's why battle cry. I haven't drinking. 1207 00:59:40,800 --> 00:59:45,600 Speaker 3: It's because I'm a professional. Professional while your microphones. 1208 00:59:45,640 --> 00:59:50,560 Speaker 2: No, i' I held this so tight. I can't believe 1209 00:59:50,640 --> 00:59:52,479 Speaker 2: Chris and I were both at the Menanda's house. 1210 00:59:52,920 --> 00:59:55,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's pretty funny. That's pretty funny. 1211 00:59:55,960 --> 00:59:58,520 Speaker 2: Literally, I mean it sounds so cheesy, and I'm gonna 1212 00:59:58,560 --> 01:00:00,400 Speaker 2: do the cheesybursion of this wrap up anyway. 1213 01:00:00,920 --> 01:00:06,600 Speaker 3: It was literally magical. Yeah, yeah, she is. She really is. 1214 01:00:06,760 --> 01:00:07,720 Speaker 3: I don't know what to tell you. 1215 01:00:08,200 --> 01:00:10,840 Speaker 2: And I love what she said about her husband, like 1216 01:00:10,960 --> 01:00:14,080 Speaker 2: he's the best the knowing of giving yourself a break, 1217 01:00:14,160 --> 01:00:17,520 Speaker 2: because that's hard. It's hard to the pressures that she 1218 01:00:17,640 --> 01:00:18,160 Speaker 2: talks about. 1219 01:00:18,800 --> 01:00:21,040 Speaker 3: And they really give themselves to each other. 1220 01:00:21,160 --> 01:00:22,720 Speaker 1: I mean, at least from where I've sat, like they 1221 01:00:22,800 --> 01:00:26,160 Speaker 1: really like have put each other, in in each other's care, 1222 01:00:26,480 --> 01:00:28,720 Speaker 1: and she and he is he's a guitarist. You know, 1223 01:00:28,920 --> 01:00:30,960 Speaker 1: he's on so I mean, so they also figured out 1224 01:00:31,040 --> 01:00:33,840 Speaker 1: how to do what they love together. 1225 01:00:34,480 --> 01:00:37,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's a challenge. And she she's no joke. 1226 01:00:37,120 --> 01:00:40,400 Speaker 1: She's on the road all the time. And really she 1227 01:00:40,520 --> 01:00:43,040 Speaker 1: wanted to be one of our first guests. And she 1228 01:00:43,320 --> 01:00:46,400 Speaker 1: was testing out a musical and doing a run in Boston. 1229 01:00:47,520 --> 01:00:50,120 Speaker 1: And I mean truly, there was not there wasn't a 1230 01:00:50,160 --> 01:00:52,560 Speaker 1: minute in her schedule. She didn't have a free hour. 1231 01:00:52,960 --> 01:00:56,480 Speaker 1: I'm so grateful. I would take ten minutes with her, 1232 01:00:57,000 --> 01:00:58,240 Speaker 1: but I also need her to rest. 1233 01:00:58,680 --> 01:01:03,480 Speaker 3: Anyway. I loved, loved every second. Me too, Me too. 1234 01:01:03,960 --> 01:01:06,000 Speaker 1: Okay, well I don't. I mean, I'm not sure how. 1235 01:01:06,160 --> 01:01:08,640 Speaker 1: I mean, we're gonna maybe, but how do you top that? 1236 01:01:08,800 --> 01:01:09,760 Speaker 1: I think we should just stop. 1237 01:01:10,640 --> 01:01:13,640 Speaker 3: We're just gonna show up and we're just gonna call it. 1238 01:01:13,680 --> 01:01:16,240 Speaker 3: And I have to go lay down. I had to process, I. 1239 01:01:16,360 --> 01:01:17,800 Speaker 4: Know, I know, I know. 1240 01:01:17,880 --> 01:01:19,400 Speaker 1: Well, I'm gonna give it, gonna send you her number 1241 01:01:19,520 --> 01:01:21,280 Speaker 1: and then and then we're gonna have a group chat. 1242 01:01:21,320 --> 01:01:24,360 Speaker 3: How about that? Yes, I love that. Let's call it, Jess, 1243 01:01:24,800 --> 01:01:28,480 Speaker 3: Let's call it the end of the episode,