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Speaker 2: Like Hey, Hurdlers, Emily Abodi here bringing you Episode one

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Speaker 2: I sit down with inspiring individuals to talk about everything

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Speaker 2: To inspire you to be your best self, move with intention,

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Speaker 2: She is the most decorated female track athlete in Olympic history,

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Speaker 2: This has been an interview that I've been after forever,

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Speaker 2: How do you pull yourself out of that devastation and

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Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, I was just like I would break it

441
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Speaker 1: down as like not having to, you know, really worry

442
00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:35,320
Speaker 1: about anything because I was running so much that that

443
00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:37,840
Speaker 1: was kind of like the saving grace. But what I

444
00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:40,119
Speaker 1: didn't understand is that, like you know, the fuel that

445
00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:42,560
Speaker 1: you put into your body, a lot of that has

446
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Speaker 1: to do with your recovery and how you feel. And

447
00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:48,480
Speaker 1: that was the biggest thing that I really learned in

448
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Speaker 1: those moments and felt like I could improve.

449
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Speaker 2: What kind of recovery. I mean, I'm sure obviously with

450
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Speaker 2: all of the technology that's available these days, certainly changed

451
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Speaker 2: a lot, but what kind of recovery are you prioritizing

452
00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:04,720
Speaker 2: the most in your regular routine right now?

453
00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:10,720
Speaker 1: Definitely just pure rest, like understanding that like my rest

454
00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:14,840
Speaker 1: is just as important as as the intense work that

455
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Speaker 1: I'm doing, and especially like now that my life is

456
00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:20,320
Speaker 1: crazy and I'm a mother and you know, days are busy,

457
00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:23,119
Speaker 1: like my sleep is really important, and making sure that

458
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Speaker 1: I'm getting enough and what that looks like and taking

459
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Speaker 1: time like just mentally for myself to give myself that

460
00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:33,840
Speaker 1: break is huge. And then I am you know, seeing

461
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Speaker 1: chiropractor massage therapists pretty much on a weekly basis. I

462
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Speaker 1: do that ice bass and then all the little things,

463
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Speaker 1: you know, foam rolling and massage gun like, you know,

464
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Speaker 1: all the little, the little tedious.

465
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Speaker 2: Things these days. How I mean, how long were you

466
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Speaker 2: out of what would have otherwise been your quote unquote

467
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Speaker 2: normal routine or your normal recovery routine at least with

468
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Speaker 2: everything that was going on this year.

469
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Speaker 1: I would say about three months. And I had to

470
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Speaker 1: rely on myself more than I ever thought was possible

471
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Speaker 1: and just you know, really get down to like the

472
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Speaker 1: basics and like figure out, like, okay, what things can

473
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Speaker 1: I do myself? You know, like I'm not And it

474
00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:21,800
Speaker 1: was definitely a really serious thing because I was still

475
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Speaker 1: training at an intense level and so I needed to

476
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Speaker 1: take more rest days because I knew I wasn't getting

477
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Speaker 1: adjustments like I you know I was relying on myself

478
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Speaker 1: for all of those things.

479
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't even imagine like going from a place

480
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Speaker 2: where you have someone else helping you with like massage

481
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Speaker 2: and adjustments on the regular and then you're like, Okay,

482
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Speaker 2: I'm going to still try to do this while running

483
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Speaker 2: around my neighborhood and just hope for the best.

484
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's a very scary thing. But you know,

485
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Speaker 1: the one thing I will say is like, listen to

486
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Speaker 1: your body. I think that's the biggest thing, is like

487
00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:59,240
Speaker 1: who knows your body better than yourself? And you really

488
00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:02,600
Speaker 1: have to back off when you need to. And I

489
00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:04,720
Speaker 1: think that was also something that really helped.

490
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Speaker 2: So let's rewind it back again closer to twenty ten,

491
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Speaker 2: twenty eleven. Aside from getting through that hurdle moment and

492
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Speaker 2: dealing with the silvers from the Olympics before, what other

493
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Speaker 2: difficulties would you say that you're facing in your sport.

494
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Speaker 1: Definitely went through a period where I was really, I

495
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Speaker 1: guess frustrated with the state of there was a you know,

496
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Speaker 1: we went through Balco and we went through just like

497
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Speaker 1: all of this. I was very naive, I guess coming

498
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Speaker 1: into the spot of the of the involvement that drugs

499
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Speaker 1: had in it, and I think my eyes, like I

500
00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:44,359
Speaker 1: totally looked up to Mary Jones. She was, you know,

501
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Speaker 1: an idol of mine, and so, you know, to that

502
00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:50,200
Speaker 1: was my first kind of experience on the professional scene

503
00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:53,119
Speaker 1: was seeing that all fall apart, and I had a

504
00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:56,080
Speaker 1: hard time with that, you know it kind of it

505
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Speaker 1: just kind of left me feeling some type of way

506
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Speaker 1: about where things were and what I thought things were.

507
00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:05,800
Speaker 1: And so that kind of continued, and there were frustrations, like,

508
00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:08,840
Speaker 1: you know, just of thinking, am I is this a

509
00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:13,240
Speaker 1: level playing field? Like is you know I'm here working

510
00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:17,359
Speaker 1: as hard as I can and doing things the right way?

511
00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:20,720
Speaker 1: Does that matter? Like is that going to pay off?

512
00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:22,280
Speaker 1: And so a lot of those thoughts.

513
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Speaker 2: It's so interesting to me because I think what probably

514
00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:29,919
Speaker 2: must have been frustrating for you was just not fully

515
00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:34,480
Speaker 2: understanding how much of this was actually happening around you exactly.

516
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Speaker 1: I mean, you you know, you watch sports on TV

517
00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:40,800
Speaker 1: and you picture it to be one way, and then

518
00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:42,760
Speaker 1: when you enter it at a very young age and

519
00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:46,560
Speaker 1: kind of all those walls are you know, fall down

520
00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:51,920
Speaker 1: and you actually see what's happening and how rampant it is.

521
00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:55,160
Speaker 1: Was just you know, it was a lot to deal

522
00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:57,600
Speaker 1: with at a young age and to figure out, you know,

523
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Speaker 1: like how do I fit in all this? And you know,

524
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Speaker 1: can I be successful on all this? Like will I

525
00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:06,600
Speaker 1: ever you know, be on top? Like? Is that something?

526
00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:08,520
Speaker 1: I think that's something that concerned me.

527
00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:13,520
Speaker 2: It's so interesting to hear someone that's so successful, both

528
00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:15,600
Speaker 2: back then in their sport and now in their sport

529
00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:18,840
Speaker 2: ask themselves if they would ever be on top at

530
00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:21,920
Speaker 2: that time? What would you say were your biggest goals

531
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Speaker 2: as an athlete?

532
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Speaker 1: Definitely, you know at that time, I always, you know,

533
00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:29,800
Speaker 1: would define success as far as winning gold medals at

534
00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:32,080
Speaker 1: the Olympics, and so I think that was, you know,

535
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Speaker 1: that was my biggest goal, was simply that to be

536
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Speaker 1: able to perform on the biggest stage and to walk

537
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Speaker 1: away with gold medals.

538
00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:42,320
Speaker 3: Walk away with gold medals.

539
00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:45,920
Speaker 2: But obviously, I mean that's only happening once every four years.

540
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Speaker 2: So in the interim, what is it that keeps you going?

541
00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:51,120
Speaker 2: And are you waking up every single day? And I

542
00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:54,600
Speaker 2: always reflect on this conversation I had with Des Linden

543
00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:56,640
Speaker 2: where she talked to me about leading up to the

544
00:28:56,680 --> 00:29:00,520
Speaker 2: Boston Marathon and for literally the nine months leading up

545
00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:02,800
Speaker 2: to the Boston Marathon, she woke up every single day

546
00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:04,880
Speaker 2: and she said to herself, I'm going to sleep, I'm

547
00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:06,840
Speaker 2: going to eat, and I'm going to live my life

548
00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:09,680
Speaker 2: like a Boston Marathon champion. Would you say that you

549
00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:13,320
Speaker 2: had the same mentality but over a four year cycle

550
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Speaker 2: for the Olympics.

551
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Speaker 1: I think that's a good way to explain it. It's

552
00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:21,240
Speaker 1: always in the back of your head, and it's always

553
00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:26,400
Speaker 1: what everything is for, you know, every workout, every thing

554
00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:30,840
Speaker 1: that you have to decline, every you know, birthday, celebration,

555
00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:34,840
Speaker 1: family event that you miss. It's all because that is

556
00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:37,320
Speaker 1: the goal and that's what you're working towards. And yeah,

557
00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:41,280
Speaker 1: definitely goes in those four year swings, which makes it

558
00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:44,760
Speaker 1: even harder because it's just like this constant thing that

559
00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:45,760
Speaker 1: you are pushing for.

560
00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:51,360
Speaker 2: How is it possible in that event, then to feel

561
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Speaker 2: as though you have any sort of balance between your

562
00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:58,120
Speaker 2: personal life and your professional life. Would you say that

563
00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:01,760
Speaker 2: during this time and the height of your career that

564
00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:06,080
Speaker 2: you had the opportunity to have a personal life.

565
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Speaker 1: I would say it probably wasn't a healthy balance. Looking

566
00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:13,160
Speaker 1: back at it, it was kind of out of whack,

567
00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:15,400
Speaker 1: you know. I definitely tried, you know, I try. I

568
00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:18,000
Speaker 1: think there was a lot of figuring out like what

569
00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:21,160
Speaker 1: works and what doesn't. But again you go back to

570
00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:23,120
Speaker 1: like the Olympics as my goal, and I have to

571
00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:26,360
Speaker 1: make all these sacrifices, and so I think I made

572
00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:29,920
Speaker 1: a lot of sacrifices in those areas. I had people

573
00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:32,200
Speaker 1: in my life who were very understanding of what I

574
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Speaker 1: was doing. And I think a lot of being an

575
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Speaker 1: athlete at this level is a lot of being selfish,

576
00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:42,680
Speaker 1: you know, a lot of putting yourself before some real

577
00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:45,280
Speaker 1: life stuff, and that's just the way that it goes,

578
00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:47,840
Speaker 1: I think. But you know, I wish that there could

579
00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:50,520
Speaker 1: be a better balance of those things. And I think,

580
00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:52,720
Speaker 1: you know, the more experience you have, you figure it

581
00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:56,080
Speaker 1: out much better. But those early years was it was hard.

582
00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:58,520
Speaker 1: You know, you definitely have those growing moments.

583
00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:02,360
Speaker 2: So you go in to your third Olympics and where

584
00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:04,320
Speaker 2: is your head at when it comes to this point,

585
00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:08,360
Speaker 2: because now, like you are beyond established in your sport.

586
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Speaker 1: I would say going into the third Olympics, I had

587
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:18,400
Speaker 1: an unusual sense of calm. I had now done everything,

588
00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:21,600
Speaker 1: you know, like I talked about kind of reinventing the

589
00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:24,480
Speaker 1: wheel in two thousand and eight, Yeah, two thousand and eight.

590
00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:28,240
Speaker 1: Coming off of that and then going into twelve, I

591
00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:31,959
Speaker 1: just was I was at peace with that, you know

592
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:33,800
Speaker 1: that if this is for me, it's going to be

593
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:37,280
Speaker 1: for me. I've worked as hard as I can, I've

594
00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:41,440
Speaker 1: done everything in every area as far as training, and

595
00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:44,959
Speaker 1: I just felt really confident in that and being okay,

596
00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:48,040
Speaker 1: like if this wasn't going to work out, then you know,

597
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:49,480
Speaker 1: then this just wasn't for me.

598
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Speaker 2: I think you've always as an athlete, I mean, and

599
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:55,880
Speaker 2: obviously it's very different for me sitting here on the

600
00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:58,360
Speaker 2: couch getting hyped up watching you run in circles. But

601
00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:02,080
Speaker 2: I think as a and athlete, you've just always exuded

602
00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:05,480
Speaker 2: the sense of calm. And I think that's something that

603
00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:09,240
Speaker 2: a lot of us struggle to find when we're meeting

604
00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:12,080
Speaker 2: really big challenge, right, It's like how do you get

605
00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:15,040
Speaker 2: to this place of calm? So I'll ask you, aside

606
00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:17,440
Speaker 2: from the confidence that you have in your performance, what

607
00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:20,240
Speaker 2: do you do to get back to calm?

608
00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:23,160
Speaker 1: It really goes back to that like training journal that

609
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:26,200
Speaker 1: I keep and I log every single workout, and to me,

610
00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:31,200
Speaker 1: confidence is in preparation. And so by going back and

611
00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:33,800
Speaker 1: like knowing that I'm training as hard as I can

612
00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:37,960
Speaker 1: and looking back through those days where you know it's

613
00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:42,400
Speaker 1: just grueling and I'm still pushing myself through it. It

614
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:44,920
Speaker 1: just gives me that extra sense of confidence and that

615
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:48,400
Speaker 1: I'm prepared for the biggest moments and to be able

616
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Speaker 1: to go into it knowing that there's not a single

617
00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:54,760
Speaker 1: thing that I could have done differently. I think it

618
00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:57,440
Speaker 1: does bring me to that place of okay, like now

619
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Speaker 1: it's time to show the world what I've been working on,

620
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Speaker 1: and it's you know, it's time to the work is

621
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Speaker 1: already done, like you know, that's the performance part, but

622
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Speaker 1: the hard part has been at training, like you know,

623
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Speaker 1: when no one is out there and you're just like

624
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Speaker 1: struggling through it yourself.

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658
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:25,200
Speaker 2: and running quote unquote naked. It's like, if you get

659
00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:27,640
Speaker 2: out there and you move without your watch, is this

660
00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:32,040
Speaker 2: is this run actually counting doing anything for you? I'm

661
00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:34,839
Speaker 2: curious are you wearing technology or anything like that when

662
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:35,480
Speaker 2: you're on the move.

663
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:39,839
Speaker 1: For the most part, I'm not really you know, like

664
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:42,960
Speaker 1: when I'm working out where I'm just like, you know,

665
00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:47,600
Speaker 1: doing my track workouts and ballistic speedwork. I might like

666
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:50,640
Speaker 1: in the gym, I'll like have a heart rate monitor

667
00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:53,200
Speaker 1: on if I'm doing like a longer run, I might

668
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:57,640
Speaker 1: like track that in some way. I like with my sleep,

669
00:35:57,719 --> 00:36:00,799
Speaker 1: like I've been kind of tracking that and with heart

670
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:03,480
Speaker 1: rate levels and things like that. But for the most part,

671
00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:06,440
Speaker 1: I would say I think the most of my technology

672
00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:09,800
Speaker 1: comes in place for like recovery and just like seeing

673
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:12,680
Speaker 1: my output and being able to manage that with some things.

674
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:16,239
Speaker 2: I would be remiss if we didn't cover here the

675
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:19,520
Speaker 2: kind of third times a charm come back for you

676
00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:23,879
Speaker 2: at the twenty twelve Olympics. Yes, talk to me about

677
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:25,040
Speaker 2: all of that. It was.

678
00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:27,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, So I talked about like kind of that sense

679
00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:30,920
Speaker 1: of calm like going into it, and it was just

680
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:34,520
Speaker 1: a really special time. You know. It was around the

681
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:37,719
Speaker 1: two hundred and that finally came together. And to me

682
00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:40,759
Speaker 1: that was so special because of all it represented, you know,

683
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:44,520
Speaker 1: the hardship and Athens and the growing pains and the

684
00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:48,120
Speaker 1: devastation in Beijing, and like, here was this moment not

685
00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:51,279
Speaker 1: just about myself, but my whole support system that has

686
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:55,000
Speaker 1: been on this ride with me and pushed me, you know,

687
00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:57,160
Speaker 1: there on it with me, and you know, we found

688
00:36:57,160 --> 00:36:59,880
Speaker 1: success and then to go on and we broke the

689
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:02,640
Speaker 1: world record in the four by one, which was just

690
00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:06,640
Speaker 1: incredible and something I never really even imagined. And then

691
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:09,479
Speaker 1: we had a successful run in the four by four,

692
00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:13,120
Speaker 1: and I also competed in the hundred, which I never

693
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:15,480
Speaker 1: could have. Like, I love the hundred, but it's not

694
00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:20,040
Speaker 1: my event. And so to think that I competed in

695
00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:23,759
Speaker 1: the Olympics and made the one hundred meter final, to me,

696
00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:26,920
Speaker 1: that's like still blows my mind. And it was just

697
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:29,960
Speaker 1: a really successful games for me. And I felt like

698
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:33,239
Speaker 1: I finally had, you know, stepped into a bit of

699
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:34,839
Speaker 1: my potential.

700
00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:38,960
Speaker 2: Something we haven't touched on. Wow, I can't even like

701
00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:40,879
Speaker 2: move on because I'm so focused in my head about

702
00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:43,920
Speaker 2: what you said about finally stepping into your potential. I mean,

703
00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:46,560
Speaker 2: it's so interesting to me to hear you say that,

704
00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:51,720
Speaker 2: because you have been just like thriving on potential from

705
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:55,520
Speaker 2: literally like sixteen seventeen years old. So to get to

706
00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:59,000
Speaker 2: this point now, three Olympics in, where you finally feel

707
00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:01,440
Speaker 2: like you're getting there, do you ever ask yourself if

708
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:02,760
Speaker 2: you're being too hard on yourself?

709
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:07,160
Speaker 1: Well, I'm Everyone who knows me knows that I will

710
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:09,680
Speaker 1: always be hard on myself. It's just like who I am.

711
00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:12,239
Speaker 1: So I think I think in a different kind of

712
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:14,839
Speaker 1: way because there definitely was success, you know, before then.

713
00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:18,160
Speaker 1: But I think, you know, just being able to finally

714
00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:21,080
Speaker 1: get that gold medal and all it meant to me.

715
00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:25,160
Speaker 1: But looking back, you know, I would definitely now define

716
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:28,120
Speaker 1: success in a much different way, and I would just

717
00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:33,160
Speaker 1: define kind of the experience and the journey so differently.

718
00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:35,520
Speaker 1: I think I did focus too much on that end

719
00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:39,719
Speaker 1: goal of a gold medal, Like I totally miss the

720
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:44,319
Speaker 1: magic like in between and that growth and stretching of

721
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:47,399
Speaker 1: myself and all of that. Like, looking back, those were

722
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:51,319
Speaker 1: the moments that it was all happening instead of you know,

723
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:54,840
Speaker 1: crossing the line and you know, getting these three gold medals.

724
00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:58,680
Speaker 1: It didn't. I don't think it met the expectation that

725
00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:01,799
Speaker 1: I had built it up to. And looking back, I

726
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:05,440
Speaker 1: know that's because of the journey and the special moments

727
00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:06,640
Speaker 1: that happened along the way.

728
00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:11,480
Speaker 2: Would you say after you finally got the taste of

729
00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:14,200
Speaker 2: that sweet gold medal in that event, that you were

730
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:17,920
Speaker 2: able to start savoring the journey as you went on

731
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:21,279
Speaker 2: to your next four year cycle completely.

732
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:26,759
Speaker 1: I started to just look and experience my career in

733
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:30,000
Speaker 1: a whole different way. It had completely different meaning. Once

734
00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:33,120
Speaker 1: I had that realization, it didn't happen like right away.

735
00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:36,000
Speaker 1: I think it took a moment to understand what was happening.

736
00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:38,239
Speaker 1: I think I felt a bit of confusion of like,

737
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:41,200
Speaker 1: why did this moment not feel like what I imagined

738
00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:44,000
Speaker 1: it to be. So I did work to really understand

739
00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:46,920
Speaker 1: what that was, and then I started to just embrace

740
00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:50,360
Speaker 1: the journey and embrace those moments of failure and defeat

741
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:52,759
Speaker 1: and figure out, you know, how do you learn how

742
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:55,080
Speaker 1: do you become better? And at the heart of all

743
00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:58,319
Speaker 1: of that was that character and integrity has always been

744
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:01,320
Speaker 1: super important to me, and that was kind of something

745
00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:07,279
Speaker 1: that even if I, you know, lost, those were two

746
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:10,440
Speaker 1: things that has to be intact for me and and

747
00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:13,280
Speaker 1: and so yeah, I definitely approach things differently.

748
00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:16,960
Speaker 2: I'd imagine it was kind of unsettling and maybe even

749
00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:20,840
Speaker 2: a little bit scary to get to this big goal

750
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:24,200
Speaker 2: and then not feel how you kind of thought that

751
00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:25,080
Speaker 2: it would feel.

752
00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:29,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think that a lot of us, a

753
00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:32,960
Speaker 1: lot of people probably go through that, and I think

754
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:36,480
Speaker 1: it takes time to like understand that what that is.

755
00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:40,240
Speaker 1: And I think in my situation, it was this long

756
00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:43,920
Speaker 1: time period of building up the end goal to be

757
00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:48,799
Speaker 1: the you know everything, instead of like understanding what a

758
00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:51,920
Speaker 1: process is and understanding like what growth looks like and

759
00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:55,360
Speaker 1: that it happens at hard moments and you know, celebrate

760
00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:58,520
Speaker 1: the victories along the way. And yeah, it's something that

761
00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:01,440
Speaker 1: I feel like you have to kind of experience and

762
00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:02,120
Speaker 1: learn from.

763
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:05,920
Speaker 2: We haven't talked at all about the injuries that you

764
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:08,920
Speaker 2: had dealt with up until this point and kind of

765
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:12,239
Speaker 2: going on through your career, and then we'll transition you

766
00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:16,560
Speaker 2: know sooner to the now. I know, in twenty thirteen,

767
00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:19,520
Speaker 2: you dealt with a pretty nasty hamstring injury that lingered

768
00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:20,680
Speaker 2: around for a little while.

769
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:24,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, and in my career, I haven't had like many injuries,

770
00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:28,480
Speaker 1: and so that happened at a World Championship and it

771
00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:31,279
Speaker 1: was really hard because I had never kind of been

772
00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:33,560
Speaker 1: in that situation where it was like, Okay, the World

773
00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:37,160
Speaker 1: Championship final and I go down with this injury. And

774
00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:40,279
Speaker 1: you know, injuries are hard for athletes, like you know,

775
00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:42,440
Speaker 1: your mind is telling you one thing and your body

776
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:44,960
Speaker 1: is doing something completely different. And so just going through

777
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:49,040
Speaker 1: the rehab process and having to go slow and just

778
00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:51,840
Speaker 1: having to be patient like all things that are not

779
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:54,960
Speaker 1: fun and don't come natural, and just like kind of

780
00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:58,239
Speaker 1: sticking with it to continue to be able to do

781
00:41:58,520 --> 00:41:59,239
Speaker 1: you know what I love.

782
00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:02,480
Speaker 2: So I'm we don't need to recap every single little

783
00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:06,160
Speaker 2: thing that happens between two thousand and fourteen when you're

784
00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:09,600
Speaker 2: coming back from this injury and athletically at least until now.

785
00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:11,880
Speaker 2: But if you had to look back on that, I

786
00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:15,399
Speaker 2: would say four year period or so, what would be

787
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:17,360
Speaker 2: your two biggest highlights?

788
00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:20,640
Speaker 1: Let's see, twenty fifteen was really special because I won

789
00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:23,200
Speaker 1: the World championship in the four hundred, an event that

790
00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:28,760
Speaker 1: I really don't care for that much. Doesn't come easy

791
00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:31,160
Speaker 1: for me, and so that was a big thing for me.

792
00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:34,920
Speaker 1: And then I would say, like in Rio, it was

793
00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:38,239
Speaker 1: all about overcoming adversity for me, Like I dealt with

794
00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:42,440
Speaker 1: a really serious injury right before Olympic trials and that

795
00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:44,600
Speaker 1: was kind of like the theme for me of that

796
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:47,719
Speaker 1: twenty sixteen It was just a lot of you know,

797
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:52,759
Speaker 1: personal hurdles and you know, just things not working out

798
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:55,319
Speaker 1: how I wanted them to and figuring out a way

799
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:58,080
Speaker 1: to just fight. I would say that like that I

800
00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:00,600
Speaker 1: learned what I that was strong and learned that I

801
00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:02,160
Speaker 1: could just keep going.

802
00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:06,000
Speaker 2: I love again, Like these themes that you're bringing up

803
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:09,279
Speaker 2: talking about like learning about your own strength, were there

804
00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:11,880
Speaker 2: any difficulties. I Mean, you just cited a couple of

805
00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:14,439
Speaker 2: really big wins, but were there any difficulties amidst these

806
00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:18,520
Speaker 2: wins that reminded you of what your strength really meant? Uh?

807
00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:22,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would definitely go back, like even to the

808
00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:25,120
Speaker 1: four hundred in Rio, where I was competing for the

809
00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:27,160
Speaker 1: first time on the Olympic stage in that event and

810
00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:29,400
Speaker 1: I had I was not one hundred percent. I was

811
00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:33,000
Speaker 1: overcoming injury and I ended up giving getting a silver metal,

812
00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:37,680
Speaker 1: you know, in a really tight race. And just like

813
00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:40,400
Speaker 1: like you mentioned, like learning about the strength that I

814
00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:43,600
Speaker 1: had to not give up to continue to fight, like

815
00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:49,000
Speaker 1: in a situation that's not ideal, and just to you know,

816
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:53,080
Speaker 1: to try to to be resilient, like not let that

817
00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:55,799
Speaker 1: one moment be defining, and just to be able to

818
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:59,640
Speaker 1: push myself to continue on when everything else is telling

819
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:00,319
Speaker 1: you not too.

820
00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:03,040
Speaker 2: We're going to transition a little bit in our conversation here,

821
00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:05,359
Speaker 2: but fast forward to twenty eighteen. You want to talk

822
00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:09,560
Speaker 2: about resiliency and pushing forward and having faith in this process.

823
00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:12,680
Speaker 2: I mean, that's exactly what you dealt with when you

824
00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:15,920
Speaker 2: were going through the birth of your daughter.

825
00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:20,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was a situation that again, you know, went

826
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:23,080
Speaker 1: back to learning about myself and my strength. You know,

827
00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:25,960
Speaker 1: I gave birth to my daughter at thirty two weeks.

828
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:29,720
Speaker 1: I had a severe case of preclaancia and a really

829
00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:35,720
Speaker 1: scary kind of traumatic situation and thank god we both

830
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:38,799
Speaker 1: ended up making it and you know, are healthy. But

831
00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:41,799
Speaker 1: it was a really rocky road and we spent about

832
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:43,879
Speaker 1: a month in the nick You with my daughter and

833
00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:47,880
Speaker 1: being an athlete and being someone who is like so

834
00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:52,200
Speaker 1: physically strong. It tested me in an emotional way that

835
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:56,359
Speaker 1: I had never experienced before, and I don't think I

836
00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:59,880
Speaker 1: was prepared for that, and it really helped me see

837
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:03,239
Speaker 1: life for what it was and put things in perspective.

838
00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:05,840
Speaker 1: And at that moment, you know, track was on the

839
00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:10,000
Speaker 1: back burner. It was all about my daughter, fighting, watching her,

840
00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:14,960
Speaker 1: being there for her, and just making sure that we

841
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:18,840
Speaker 1: were okay, you know, everything that nothing had to do

842
00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:21,440
Speaker 1: with track, and so it was a really trying time

843
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:22,160
Speaker 1: for my family.

844
00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:29,400
Speaker 2: Would you say, leaving the hospital with your daughter, was

845
00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:32,400
Speaker 2: that probably one of the most joyous moments for you

846
00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:35,360
Speaker 2: or would you reflect on that as being a really

847
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:36,799
Speaker 2: scary moment for you?

848
00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:39,719
Speaker 1: I would say both kind of. I mean I had

849
00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:43,719
Speaker 1: always imagined, you know, you always think about yourself with

850
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:46,680
Speaker 1: kids and what that looks like, and the way it

851
00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:49,120
Speaker 1: all started for me was nothing that I could have

852
00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:51,640
Speaker 1: dreamed of. You know, it was just so scary. It

853
00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:54,000
Speaker 1: was a lot of doubt, you know, would we be

854
00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:57,000
Speaker 1: leaving the hospital, like, you know, what challenges would we

855
00:45:57,080 --> 00:46:00,000
Speaker 1: continue to face? And so when we did leave the hospital,

856
00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:03,440
Speaker 1: I had an immense amount of gratitude because being in

857
00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:06,799
Speaker 1: the NICU and meeting so many mothers, there were so

858
00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:11,520
Speaker 1: many who didn't leave with their child, and you know,

859
00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:14,680
Speaker 1: it was it's heartbreaking and it's such a heavy thing,

860
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:18,440
Speaker 1: and so I just felt so grateful to, you know,

861
00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:22,680
Speaker 1: walk out of there with my child. And yeah, it

862
00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:25,239
Speaker 1: didn't start the way that we would have hoped, but

863
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:29,719
Speaker 1: I just was grateful that she made it and you know,

864
00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:31,560
Speaker 1: and that we were starting our journey from there. But

865
00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:33,719
Speaker 1: it was scary, you know, to take a baby that

866
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:36,960
Speaker 1: small home and now that she's my responsibility. And I

867
00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:39,680
Speaker 1: had a lot of kind of struggles with that as well,

868
00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:42,719
Speaker 1: you know, moving from the hospital to home and what

869
00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:43,560
Speaker 1: life looked like.

870
00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:49,680
Speaker 2: How long after giving birth and taking this time with

871
00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:53,799
Speaker 2: your new family does it go until you start to

872
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:58,360
Speaker 2: take the thoughts of track off the back burner.

873
00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:02,239
Speaker 1: I think once we got home, I started to let

874
00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:06,440
Speaker 1: my mind wonder again. I mean, it was it was

875
00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:08,880
Speaker 1: in the back of my head, even though I wasn't allowed,

876
00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:10,759
Speaker 1: I wasn't acting on it. And so you know, I

877
00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:14,200
Speaker 1: had an emergency sea section and I needed to let

878
00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:17,680
Speaker 1: my body heal. And what I expected to happen after

879
00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:21,160
Speaker 1: I gave birth and the reality of things were completely different.

880
00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:24,160
Speaker 1: I mean, I think I had looked at other you know,

881
00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:29,080
Speaker 1: athletes situations and kind of thought of like mapping myself out,

882
00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:31,160
Speaker 1: like Okay, well, so and so went back at four

883
00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:33,480
Speaker 1: weeks and you know it's going to be great. And

884
00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:36,319
Speaker 1: in my situation, it was like I was emotionally and

885
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:40,200
Speaker 1: physically drained. I was recovering from the sea section. It

886
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:42,560
Speaker 1: just it was really, really rough. And so I would

887
00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:47,040
Speaker 1: say like at maybe two or three months, I got

888
00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:50,880
Speaker 1: my first workout, which was a thirty minute walk on

889
00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:54,279
Speaker 1: the treadmill, and I was in tears at the end

890
00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:59,120
Speaker 1: of it because it was so hard and so humbling,

891
00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:02,440
Speaker 1: and I just never imagine myself being in this situation,

892
00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:07,000
Speaker 1: and so I was there was moments where I was

893
00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:11,600
Speaker 1: just questioning, like is this possible to come back from this?

894
00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:15,760
Speaker 2: And I think a lot of people have this self

895
00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:19,160
Speaker 2: doubt and this struggle, whether it's you know, coming back

896
00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:22,000
Speaker 2: after having a child or if it's coming back after injury.

897
00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:25,720
Speaker 2: As you know very well, it's this idea of self

898
00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:30,200
Speaker 2: doubt and questioning and wanting so badly to be at

899
00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:33,799
Speaker 2: a place where you once were. Did you battle a

900
00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:35,880
Speaker 2: lot of that self doubt going forward.

901
00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:39,640
Speaker 1: Oh definitely. Yeah, Like exactly what you're talking about is like,

902
00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:43,360
Speaker 1: you know what it felt like to you know, to

903
00:48:43,480 --> 00:48:47,319
Speaker 1: be there, you knew what success felt like, and to me,

904
00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:50,320
Speaker 1: I felt so far from it. Like everything was difficult.

905
00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:53,880
Speaker 1: It was difficult to jog, it was difficult to do drills,

906
00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:56,960
Speaker 1: and so in my mind I'm trying to grapple with

907
00:48:57,040 --> 00:49:00,400
Speaker 1: the idea of if these minor things are difficult. It

908
00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:03,200
Speaker 1: was a World championship year, like how do I get

909
00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:06,400
Speaker 1: to this place? And so I did. I It was

910
00:49:06,520 --> 00:49:08,480
Speaker 1: a lot, I would say, even all the way up

911
00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:12,720
Speaker 1: until like this year was dealing with those struggles.

912
00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:15,759
Speaker 2: Then you come out in such a big way to

913
00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:19,120
Speaker 2: talk not only about your pregnancy and how that affected

914
00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:23,040
Speaker 2: your career, but then to sign with Athleta, and I

915
00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:27,040
Speaker 2: would say that it was really interesting for me to

916
00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:30,800
Speaker 2: watch you kind of come into your own as someone

917
00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:35,400
Speaker 2: who really started to take ownership of their voice. Was

918
00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:37,280
Speaker 2: that intimidating completely?

919
00:49:38,200 --> 00:49:40,880
Speaker 1: I think, you know, my entire career, I felt like

920
00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:42,880
Speaker 1: I had to just be this runner, I had to

921
00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:45,160
Speaker 1: say the right things. I had to fit this image

922
00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:48,719
Speaker 1: and becoming a mother and what I went through with

923
00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:54,120
Speaker 1: my issues with Nike. I had to really like ask

924
00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:57,399
Speaker 1: myself what I believed in and making a decision for

925
00:49:57,440 --> 00:49:59,920
Speaker 1: that and making taking a step towards what I believed.

926
00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:04,640
Speaker 1: I didn't know at the time because it felt so risky.

927
00:50:04,719 --> 00:50:07,320
Speaker 1: I was walking away from Nike and there wasn't anything

928
00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:09,239
Speaker 1: else on the table at that time. You know, I

929
00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:11,080
Speaker 1: had been with them for so long. I had been

930
00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:14,120
Speaker 1: branded as such a Nike athlete. It was terrifying to

931
00:50:14,280 --> 00:50:16,920
Speaker 1: step away from that, but I deeply believe that it

932
00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:19,520
Speaker 1: was the right thing to do. And then, you know,

933
00:50:19,600 --> 00:50:23,520
Speaker 1: creating the partnership with Athleta, it was amazing because here

934
00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:26,239
Speaker 1: I am, I'm feeling seen and heard in that I

935
00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:29,200
Speaker 1: have a seat at the table and the mission is

936
00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:34,040
Speaker 1: really just so aligned with my heart and to empower

937
00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:37,000
Speaker 1: women and girls. I mean, that is what I'm all about,

938
00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:40,840
Speaker 1: and so I never could have seen it coming, but

939
00:50:41,120 --> 00:50:43,400
Speaker 1: it is absolutely where I was supposed to be.

940
00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:46,279
Speaker 2: I want to touch on the Athleta partnership again in

941
00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:48,960
Speaker 2: just a second, but before I do, I think what

942
00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:52,040
Speaker 2: you said is really interesting about being scared to leave

943
00:50:52,080 --> 00:50:56,000
Speaker 2: what you once knew and this comfort zone. I mean, god,

944
00:50:56,440 --> 00:50:59,120
Speaker 2: how many of us can relate to that? Just being

945
00:50:59,200 --> 00:51:02,960
Speaker 2: so comfortable in something and staying with something because it's

946
00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:07,160
Speaker 2: what we know. But in this stepping aside, I mean,

947
00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:09,800
Speaker 2: what would you say were some of the biggest lessons

948
00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:12,960
Speaker 2: that you learned about yourself or just in general in

949
00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:13,759
Speaker 2: that process.

950
00:51:14,239 --> 00:51:16,279
Speaker 1: I learned that you do have to go with what

951
00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:19,040
Speaker 1: you believe you know, and I think it's so important

952
00:51:19,080 --> 00:51:22,960
Speaker 1: to hold people accountable for you know, what they market

953
00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:25,279
Speaker 1: and what they say, and you know, it's just you

954
00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:28,640
Speaker 1: have to be responsible in that way. And I totally

955
00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:31,840
Speaker 1: also learned about the power of the collective. And you know,

956
00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:35,720
Speaker 1: my teammates Kara Goucher and Alicia Montano, who spoke out

957
00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:41,160
Speaker 1: first about these issues that were happening, totally gave me courage.

958
00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:44,240
Speaker 1: And I think it's just learning to be more vulnerable

959
00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:46,920
Speaker 1: as well, because I knew what it felt like to

960
00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:51,200
Speaker 1: hear them, Like I literally could not sit by and

961
00:51:51,680 --> 00:51:54,600
Speaker 1: not share my story because I knew that it had power.

962
00:51:54,960 --> 00:51:57,479
Speaker 1: And I think that once we all, like, no matter

963
00:51:57,520 --> 00:51:59,759
Speaker 1: what the issue is, once you realize that you talk

964
00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:03,160
Speaker 1: at it, you're not alone. There's such power in that.

965
00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:06,200
Speaker 1: So I think that has also like pushed me forward

966
00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:08,360
Speaker 1: to continue speaking.

967
00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:12,760
Speaker 2: On December sixth of last year on Instagram, you wrote

968
00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:15,279
Speaker 2: that you sat down and discussed the future and so

969
00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:18,960
Speaker 2: many exciting things on the horizon with Athleta, and what

970
00:52:19,040 --> 00:52:21,280
Speaker 2: I loved what you had to say in this caption

971
00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:24,080
Speaker 2: was that you had a seat at the table, being

972
00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:27,879
Speaker 2: surrounded by female leadership, feeling heard, and for the first

973
00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:30,840
Speaker 2: time in your career, you felt valued beyond just running

974
00:52:31,280 --> 00:52:34,480
Speaker 2: fast on a track. Talk to me about that.

975
00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:38,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, when we created the partnership with Athleta,

976
00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:40,880
Speaker 1: we really wanted to have a different model and a

977
00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:45,239
Speaker 1: different approach and to be able to celebrate an athlete holistically,

978
00:52:46,080 --> 00:52:49,400
Speaker 1: as a mother, as an activist, you know, as an athlete,

979
00:52:49,520 --> 00:52:52,120
Speaker 1: all of these things, because that is who I am.

980
00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:54,680
Speaker 1: And I think, you know that all sounds great, but

981
00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:57,359
Speaker 1: I wanted to see, like, is that really what's going

982
00:52:57,400 --> 00:53:00,600
Speaker 1: on here? And so to be able to sit down

983
00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:04,080
Speaker 1: with female leadership and to look around the table not

984
00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:06,840
Speaker 1: just talk about, you know, how I'm going to run fast,

985
00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:09,840
Speaker 1: but talk about, you know, the actual business that's taking

986
00:53:09,880 --> 00:53:13,520
Speaker 1: place for Athleta and how I'm a part of that,

987
00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:19,200
Speaker 1: and to actually take my ideas seriously. It is so

988
00:53:19,360 --> 00:53:22,520
Speaker 1: important in something that I had never experienced before.

989
00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:25,800
Speaker 2: So I remember like when this all was announced that summer,

990
00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:28,680
Speaker 2: thinking to myself like, this is a really interesting thing

991
00:53:28,880 --> 00:53:31,359
Speaker 2: as they had never sponsored an athlete before, and also

992
00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:35,080
Speaker 2: thinking about from a clothing perspective, like what it was

993
00:53:35,120 --> 00:53:38,319
Speaker 2: that they had to offer. I mean, I'm nowhere near

994
00:53:38,560 --> 00:53:40,920
Speaker 2: the kind of runner that you are, but I am

995
00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:43,799
Speaker 2: a runner and I love athletic clothing, but it's never

996
00:53:43,880 --> 00:53:47,320
Speaker 2: been my first pick for some of my run items

997
00:53:47,360 --> 00:53:50,000
Speaker 2: right off the bat. So I think what's really exciting

998
00:53:50,080 --> 00:53:53,560
Speaker 2: now is seeing the next phase of what you're doing

999
00:53:53,600 --> 00:53:56,120
Speaker 2: with them and the collection that you guys are about

1000
00:53:56,120 --> 00:53:56,840
Speaker 2: to launch together.

1001
00:53:57,080 --> 00:53:59,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that was something that was really important for

1002
00:53:59,360 --> 00:54:03,239
Speaker 1: me to bring to Athleta was this piece of that

1003
00:54:03,320 --> 00:54:05,200
Speaker 1: I am a runner and that I think that we

1004
00:54:05,239 --> 00:54:09,120
Speaker 1: can create something that meets the highest standard that is

1005
00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:13,319
Speaker 1: influenced by, you know, my style and what works for me.

1006
00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:15,400
Speaker 1: You know, I brought a lot of my track sense

1007
00:54:15,520 --> 00:54:18,800
Speaker 1: to my signature line there and how I like pieces

1008
00:54:18,840 --> 00:54:22,160
Speaker 1: to operate. I love layers. You know, when I'm warming up,

1009
00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:24,279
Speaker 1: I like to be fully covered and I like to

1010
00:54:24,920 --> 00:54:28,160
Speaker 1: continually strip down until I get to just that one

1011
00:54:28,320 --> 00:54:32,759
Speaker 1: bare layer of feeling fast and feeling free, and so

1012
00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:36,359
Speaker 1: I love that the pieces have all those thoughts in them,

1013
00:54:36,440 --> 00:54:39,919
Speaker 1: that they're all about no distractions, you know, being able

1014
00:54:39,960 --> 00:54:42,719
Speaker 1: to do your workout and not having anything bothering you.

1015
00:54:43,360 --> 00:54:46,360
Speaker 1: And then also they're very practical because for me and

1016
00:54:46,560 --> 00:54:48,719
Speaker 1: my life right now, when I leave the track, I'm

1017
00:54:48,719 --> 00:54:51,520
Speaker 1: typically not going right home. I might have to you know,

1018
00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:54,400
Speaker 1: run errands or pop in the grocery store. So I

1019
00:54:54,480 --> 00:54:57,879
Speaker 1: love these layered pieces that can also do that with

1020
00:54:58,360 --> 00:55:02,040
Speaker 1: really cute jackets and and T shirts, and there's love

1021
00:55:02,120 --> 00:55:05,400
Speaker 1: notes throughout because I want women in girls, which is

1022
00:55:05,440 --> 00:55:08,400
Speaker 1: also I love that this line is for girls as well.

1023
00:55:09,040 --> 00:55:12,120
Speaker 1: I want them to feel confident and strong and empowered

1024
00:55:12,160 --> 00:55:13,399
Speaker 1: when they put these pieces on.

1025
00:55:14,840 --> 00:55:17,920
Speaker 2: I listened to an interview that you did. I think

1026
00:55:17,960 --> 00:55:21,520
Speaker 2: it was from the espnW summit where you confess that

1027
00:55:21,640 --> 00:55:24,840
Speaker 2: you have a room dedicated to sneakers and that you

1028
00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:29,719
Speaker 2: probably have at least two hundred pairs. I live in

1029
00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:32,160
Speaker 2: a New York City one bedroom. I probably have seventy

1030
00:55:32,239 --> 00:55:36,440
Speaker 2: two pairs. I think I counted once somehow stacked in here.

1031
00:55:36,600 --> 00:55:38,719
Speaker 2: I don't know if I'm allowed to ask you this,

1032
00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:43,680
Speaker 2: but if you're going out for a run around the neighborhood,

1033
00:55:43,840 --> 00:55:47,520
Speaker 2: I just am so curious about what sneakers you're putting on. Allison.

1034
00:55:49,120 --> 00:55:52,480
Speaker 1: Well, right now, since I'm kind of like a free agent,

1035
00:55:52,640 --> 00:55:55,040
Speaker 1: I've been wearing a little bit of everything. It's weird

1036
00:55:55,040 --> 00:55:58,319
Speaker 1: because I've literally worn one brand well too. I was

1037
00:55:58,360 --> 00:56:00,719
Speaker 1: with the Didas for the beginning of my career and

1038
00:56:00,760 --> 00:56:03,520
Speaker 1: then moved to Nike, and so I've literally only kind

1039
00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:06,840
Speaker 1: of worn those two shoes, but I have I'm in

1040
00:56:06,840 --> 00:56:08,600
Speaker 1: the stage of kind of like trying a little bit

1041
00:56:08,600 --> 00:56:11,839
Speaker 1: of everything. I've worn some Rebox, I've worn some new

1042
00:56:11,880 --> 00:56:15,120
Speaker 1: Balanced shoes. I'm just kind of exploring because like I

1043
00:56:15,160 --> 00:56:17,280
Speaker 1: don't even know I'm This is a whole new world

1044
00:56:17,280 --> 00:56:19,919
Speaker 1: for me. So it's been interesting to kind of try

1045
00:56:19,960 --> 00:56:21,120
Speaker 1: out different brands.

1046
00:56:21,360 --> 00:56:23,279
Speaker 2: We're starting to wind down here. What I do want

1047
00:56:23,320 --> 00:56:25,719
Speaker 2: to ask you is when people go to your Instagram,

1048
00:56:26,000 --> 00:56:30,120
Speaker 2: they see a famous track athlete, they see a mother,

1049
00:56:30,360 --> 00:56:33,680
Speaker 2: they're one of oh dear, so many seven hundred and

1050
00:56:33,719 --> 00:56:37,640
Speaker 2: two thousand people that follow you. When you look in

1051
00:56:37,719 --> 00:56:40,480
Speaker 2: the mirror, what is it that you see staring back

1052
00:56:40,520 --> 00:56:40,879
Speaker 2: at you.

1053
00:56:42,360 --> 00:56:47,000
Speaker 1: That is a really great question. I think I really

1054
00:56:47,040 --> 00:56:50,759
Speaker 1: see like a woman who is still becoming, like who's

1055
00:56:50,800 --> 00:56:55,400
Speaker 1: still working on herself who is growing and you know,

1056
00:56:55,560 --> 00:56:58,520
Speaker 1: learning a lot, and you know, trying to be the

1057
00:56:58,560 --> 00:57:01,640
Speaker 1: best version. But I I feel like I'm looking at

1058
00:57:01,640 --> 00:57:04,040
Speaker 1: someone who's not complete. You know, there's still so much

1059
00:57:04,160 --> 00:57:07,799
Speaker 1: left to do, and I'm still I think, I'm I'm

1060
00:57:07,840 --> 00:57:10,520
Speaker 1: really just stepping into that right now. I'm still really

1061
00:57:10,680 --> 00:57:14,840
Speaker 1: just embracing and owning that I have more to offer

1062
00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:18,200
Speaker 1: than just you know, on the track, and I'm really

1063
00:57:18,320 --> 00:57:22,960
Speaker 1: enjoying like this this phase of life of where I am.

1064
00:57:22,440 --> 00:57:25,200
Speaker 2: This phase of life that we're in. Obviously, it's one

1065
00:57:25,240 --> 00:57:28,960
Speaker 2: that you never could have prepared for or expected what

1066
00:57:29,080 --> 00:57:33,400
Speaker 2: came with twenty twenty. Now that your four year rotation

1067
00:57:33,560 --> 00:57:35,960
Speaker 2: has been pushed off a little bit, would you say

1068
00:57:36,120 --> 00:57:40,240
Speaker 2: that makes you more excited or has it been a

1069
00:57:40,320 --> 00:57:42,040
Speaker 2: really really difficult time for you.

1070
00:57:43,120 --> 00:57:45,800
Speaker 1: It's been difficult. I mean I've definitely like had to

1071
00:57:45,840 --> 00:57:49,680
Speaker 1: take time to grieve that process of that the Olympics

1072
00:57:49,720 --> 00:57:53,080
Speaker 1: are I mean we train for just a very specific

1073
00:57:53,320 --> 00:57:57,240
Speaker 1: time period, and so the fact that that is not

1074
00:57:57,360 --> 00:58:02,040
Speaker 1: happening at that time, I had to grieve that, and

1075
00:58:02,080 --> 00:58:04,440
Speaker 1: then I had to pick up the pieces and be

1076
00:58:04,600 --> 00:58:08,320
Speaker 1: motivated and continue to push for that goal and for

1077
00:58:08,400 --> 00:58:10,720
Speaker 1: that dream. And so now I would say I'm in

1078
00:58:11,000 --> 00:58:15,120
Speaker 1: a good place, like I've been able to just consciously

1079
00:58:15,160 --> 00:58:17,439
Speaker 1: make the decision to be positive and look at all

1080
00:58:17,520 --> 00:58:20,080
Speaker 1: the things that I can be better at because I

1081
00:58:20,120 --> 00:58:23,320
Speaker 1: have this extra time. And I think also being able

1082
00:58:23,680 --> 00:58:28,200
Speaker 1: to be here with my family that's something I wouldn't

1083
00:58:28,200 --> 00:58:31,080
Speaker 1: have had. You know, my travel would have been insane,

1084
00:58:31,200 --> 00:58:33,520
Speaker 1: like I would have missed a lot of moments. And

1085
00:58:33,600 --> 00:58:37,600
Speaker 1: so just really embracing all of that, all of this

1086
00:58:37,680 --> 00:58:41,200
Speaker 1: extra time and just you know, in the midst of

1087
00:58:41,440 --> 00:58:44,640
Speaker 1: a hectic and crazy and a world where people are

1088
00:58:44,720 --> 00:58:49,439
Speaker 1: experiencing loss, to focus in and be grateful for all

1089
00:58:49,520 --> 00:58:50,480
Speaker 1: that I have.

1090
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Speaker 2: What would during this time a regular day of workouts

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Speaker 2: kind of look like for you.

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Speaker 1: So typically I am going I go to the track

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Speaker 1: in the morning, and I am there for you know,

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Speaker 1: two to three hours. I probably if I can, I

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Speaker 1: sneak home for a second and like grab a smoothie

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Speaker 1: and say hi to my daughter, and then I head

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Speaker 1: off to the gym and I'm there for another hour

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Speaker 1: and a half too, and then I come home and

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Speaker 1: I typically that's start the meetings and the zooms and

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Speaker 1: you know, all that good stuff. And then you know,

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Speaker 1: dinner and make dinner and spend time with my daughter

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Speaker 1: and prepare to do it all again. Get some recovery

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Speaker 1: in there and and all that good stuff.

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Speaker 2: What's in the smoothie, you know?

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Speaker 1: I it depends on what I have, But typically there's

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Speaker 1: spinach and kale and whatever fruit I have, and some

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Speaker 1: some yogurt and and a little bit of juice.

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Speaker 2: Do you have any protein in there?

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Speaker 1: I do? I do? It just kind of depends on

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Speaker 1: what part of my day I'm in and if it's

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Speaker 1: like if I'm still going to the gym, I'm I

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Speaker 1: wait until like afterwards to get that in. So it

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Speaker 1: just kind of it depends.

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Speaker 2: It depends what are you excited for right now, aside

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Speaker 2: from hopefully twenty twenty one Olympics.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean obviously, like that's the biggest thing, but

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Speaker 1: I'm really, you know, obviously excited about the line and

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Speaker 1: that launching, and then just like really moving forward with

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Speaker 1: these causes that I'm passionate about, so, you know, maternal mortality,

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Speaker 1: like raising awareness for black women surrounding that women of

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Speaker 1: color just at being at risk, continuing to share that story.

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Speaker 1: I think that's really weighing on my heart. And then

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Speaker 1: just you know, the social climate of things right now

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Speaker 1: and just I don't know, I felt heavy with all

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Speaker 1: of this going on, but just really wanting to do

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Speaker 1: my part and use my voice. And I feel like

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Speaker 1: things feel different right now, so wanting to, you know,

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Speaker 1: do what I can to try to move towards change,

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Speaker 1: you know, whatever that looks like.

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Speaker 2: For those who may be listening that share this, want

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Speaker 2: to use their voice but feel scared to use their voice,

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Speaker 2: what is it that you would tell them?

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Speaker 1: I think it's a journey to find your voice, you know.

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Speaker 1: That's what I found. And I, like I said before,

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Speaker 1: I think for the majority of my career, I've been

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Speaker 1: struggling with this place of coming to a time when

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Speaker 1: it's time to talk, speak out on things other than

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Speaker 1: you know, running fast. And I think it's okay to

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Speaker 1: be on that journey. I think when you're on that journey,

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Speaker 1: it's good to educate yourself, to listen to others, to

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Speaker 1: hear other perspectives so that you're informed when you do

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Speaker 1: find it yourself. And so I think it's just really exploring,

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Speaker 1: you know, what that looks like. And I think that

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Speaker 1: we all can speak in our circles, you know, it

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Speaker 1: doesn't have to be this huge like broadcasted, you know,

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Speaker 1: produced thing. It can be conversations with your friends, like

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Speaker 1: that is your platform. And so I think it's not

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Speaker 1: always feeling like you have to start with this enormous thing,

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Speaker 1: but it's just you know, starting where you are.

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Speaker 2: You can put one last thing on Instagram. You have

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Speaker 2: one last chance to give a message to the world.

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Speaker 2: What do you think that you would want to leave there?

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Speaker 1: I think it's embraced the journey. You know, it's all

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Speaker 1: about like we're all on this our own unique journey,

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Speaker 1: and it's all about growth and you know what's important

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Speaker 1: to you and stretching yourself and to me, when you

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Speaker 1: embrace that, you learn so much about yourself and I

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Speaker 1: don't know, just that we're all working towards, you know,

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Speaker 1: being better versions of ourselfs.

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Speaker 2: Do you get kind of sentimental thinking that the next

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Speaker 2: Olympics will likely be your last Olympics?

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Speaker 1: I do, But at the same time, I feel like

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Speaker 1: I have like thoroughly enjoyed my athletic career and I

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Speaker 1: have so many things that I'm excited about in the

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Speaker 1: next phase that I think I'm just I have more

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Speaker 1: gratitude than anything and I think I'm ready, Like I

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Speaker 1: am totally ready to like tackle the next part of it.

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Speaker 1: But I'm sure that in the moment, it's going to

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Speaker 1: be a lot. And when I think, you know, it's

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Speaker 1: been so much of my life, so when I think about,

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Speaker 1: you know, waking up and not having an Olympics to

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Speaker 1: prepare for, it's probably going to be this like really

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Speaker 1: strange feeling. But I'm just trying to like embrace it all.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I got another year, so I guess I'm

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Speaker 1: just gonna, yeah, take it all in.

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Speaker 2: You have an opportunity, Alison, right now to offer yourself

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Speaker 2: a piece of advice going through one of your hurdle moments.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna say maybe that second second place finish. You

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Speaker 2: have an opportunity to offer yourself a piece of advice

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Speaker 2: looking back on that. Now, what do you tell yourself?

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Speaker 1: I think I tell myself to embrace this moment, Like

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Speaker 1: this moment where you feel like this is a failure.

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Speaker 1: Look at what you can learn from this, Like take

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Speaker 1: out the positives, because I think every defeat, every failure,

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Speaker 1: every missed mark, whatever that looks like in your life,

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Speaker 1: there is a lesson to be learned and there's something

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Speaker 1: to take out of that that can prepare you for

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Speaker 1: something later. So feel all the feelings. That's perfectly fine,

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Speaker 1: but not to sit with it and to figure out

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Speaker 1: how you move forward with it.

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Speaker 2: Awesome. I'm so so grateful for this conversation and so

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Speaker 2: grateful for your time. Please take a moment and leave

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Speaker 2: a quick review of by clicking the link with the

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Speaker 2: description to this episode. We all face multiple hurdles in life.

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Speaker 2: I want to hear about yours. Reach Out to me

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Speaker 2: at Emily at Hurdle dot us, connect with the podcast Instagram, Twitter,

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Speaker 2: at Hurdle Podcast Alison. How do they keep up with you?

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Speaker 2: Give me the details.

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Speaker 1: Everyone can follow me on Instagram I am at AF

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Speaker 1: eighty five and on Twitter I'm just Alison Felix and

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Speaker 1: they can follow my journey and this quest to try

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Speaker 1: to make a fifth Olympic team.

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Speaker 2: I dig it. I am at emily a Badi at

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Speaker 2: Hurdle Podcast. Another hurdle Conquered. Catch you guys next time.