1 00:00:01,080 --> 00:00:03,240 Speaker 1: Let me ask you. I know you just got here 2 00:00:03,240 --> 00:00:06,480 Speaker 1: and whatnot, but the Giants historically have had some injury issues. 3 00:00:06,519 --> 00:00:09,240 Speaker 1: How how kind of what kind of program do you 4 00:00:09,240 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 1: expect to run to maybe address that or have you 5 00:00:11,480 --> 00:00:13,680 Speaker 1: not given any thought to how to fix that? Yeah, no, 6 00:00:13,720 --> 00:00:15,800 Speaker 1: we've given it thought. There's a lot of conversations that 7 00:00:15,880 --> 00:00:18,880 Speaker 1: need to take place between Joe and myself and and 8 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:24,239 Speaker 1: Ronnie the rest of the guys. You know, head coaches, GMS, coaches, 9 00:00:24,280 --> 00:00:26,480 Speaker 1: support staff, that they're all important. I'm not saying that 10 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:28,480 Speaker 1: that they're not, but the players are the most important. 11 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:30,360 Speaker 1: So we got to do a good job of finding 12 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:32,720 Speaker 1: a way to keep our players really healthy the best 13 00:00:32,720 --> 00:00:34,519 Speaker 1: they can and give them every opportunity to be out 14 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:36,520 Speaker 1: on the fields. Right. And I think this is probably 15 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:39,040 Speaker 1: a little bit of a unique situation and that at 16 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:42,440 Speaker 1: least from us talking to Joe Judge. You were friends 17 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 1: with Joe Judge and he wanted to hire you as 18 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:48,279 Speaker 1: your offense as his offensive coordinator. What he got here? 19 00:00:48,479 --> 00:00:50,480 Speaker 1: So I'm just curious the last couple of days did 20 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:52,360 Speaker 1: you reach out to him, did he reach out to you? 21 00:00:52,680 --> 00:00:54,440 Speaker 1: What kind of insight scoop did you get from the 22 00:00:54,440 --> 00:00:56,639 Speaker 1: guy who was just the new shoes. Yeah, I've had 23 00:00:56,680 --> 00:00:59,600 Speaker 1: I've had a lot of conversations with a lot of guys. Um, 24 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:02,680 Speaker 1: Joe was one of them. I'm friends with Joe his family. 25 00:01:03,160 --> 00:01:06,280 Speaker 1: Uh you know, those are kind of touchy situations. You know, 26 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:08,600 Speaker 1: you know, he just got let go, I got hired, 27 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:10,720 Speaker 1: So it's it's a I got a lot of respect 28 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:13,000 Speaker 1: for him. I just keep you know, our conversations private. 29 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 1: I hope you can understand that. Brian, what was that 30 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 1: persons doing? Like it was kind of thrown together. I 31 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:20,240 Speaker 1: guess when Joe got this job, right, Yeah, an introductory. 32 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:22,120 Speaker 1: I mean there's a lot of these. A lot of 33 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 1: these interviews are are similar, um, and they have their 34 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:27,360 Speaker 1: questions and you get to know each other and uh, 35 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:29,480 Speaker 1: you know, it goes for a while. Then you know, 36 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:31,400 Speaker 1: you hope you get called back for a second chance, 37 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:35,320 Speaker 1: and uh, you know, fortunately I had that opportunity being 38 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:37,560 Speaker 1: yourself and being authentic. I'm curious if there was a 39 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:40,200 Speaker 1: point early in your career where that was difficult to do. 40 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:43,480 Speaker 1: I mean, you relaxed guy, there was I think you 41 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 1: learned the older you get. Um, I was a son 42 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 1: of gun when I was younger, particularly when I started out. Um. 43 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 1: You know, I learned from a lot of guys to 44 00:01:53,720 --> 00:01:55,560 Speaker 1: your question that I got a tremendous a model of 45 00:01:55,560 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 1: respect and love for uh. But when you learn one 46 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 1: way and you've see to be successful, I think that's natural. 47 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 1: And I understand that I own it, you know. I 48 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:06,800 Speaker 1: think that. You know. I remember doing my first press 49 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 1: conference and it's stunk. To be honest with you, it 50 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:13,240 Speaker 1: was that Cleveland. It was like I was trying to 51 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:14,960 Speaker 1: do something that I really was and I didn't want 52 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:17,359 Speaker 1: to say, you know how it goes right? So I 53 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:20,400 Speaker 1: do it and I get up to the office and 54 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:22,080 Speaker 1: there's a blink in light on one of those old 55 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 1: office phones and I pick it up and hello or 56 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:27,760 Speaker 1: not hello because it was a voicemail, and I hear 57 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 1: my my wife's message. She's like, what the was that? 58 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:33,959 Speaker 1: You better call me? And she hung up, but I called. 59 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 1: She's like, what are you doing? I'm not screwing anything up, 60 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:39,079 Speaker 1: you know, And and again you want to try to 61 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:42,040 Speaker 1: do things right way. Um, But at the end of 62 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:44,840 Speaker 1: the day, look, I'm gonna be myself. I know you 63 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:47,960 Speaker 1: asked that question. Is it good enough? Who knows? But 64 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 1: I'm comfortable in my own skin. I'm comfortable the way 65 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 1: I'm as a leader. I'm comfortable working with people. UM, 66 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:55,799 Speaker 1: I'm gave you everything I got and give this town 67 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 1: everything I got and give this community, those team, the 68 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:01,239 Speaker 1: people that I work with, UM, and try to build 69 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:05,880 Speaker 1: a winner. Johane said that ultimately the play calling decision 70 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 1: is yours, but he did say his preference is that 71 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 1: the head coach does not call plays so he can 72 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:14,079 Speaker 1: manage the game. What are your thoughts on whether that's 73 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 1: necessary or not. You're good, Pat, You ask these questions 74 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 1: that are down the line here for me. Um. You know, 75 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:22,640 Speaker 1: we'll see, We'll see how it goes. At the end 76 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:24,600 Speaker 1: of the day. You this, this higher will be important. 77 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:26,240 Speaker 1: All the highers are going to be important. The people 78 00:03:26,240 --> 00:03:29,239 Speaker 1: you bring in the building. Offensive coordinator, Uh, we've we've 79 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 1: done a lot of interviews for that spot. Right now, 80 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 1: I'll just tell you that, UM, who they are. I'm 81 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 1: just gonna keep that private. I hope you respect that. 82 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 1: But we'll find the right guy and then we'll we'll 83 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 1: work together. And again, if he can call the plays 84 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 1: and we feel comfortable with that, I'm fine with that. 85 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:47,840 Speaker 1: At one point, you were you were a rookie play 86 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 1: caller too, you know, years ago. So what's your comfort 87 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 1: level with bringing in someone who has never um never 88 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 1: called plays before to maybe call the place. Yeah, I 89 00:03:56,040 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 1: mean if we go through the interest interview process and 90 00:03:58,280 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 1: we feel that that's the right fit, let's fine. Look 91 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 1: at some point it's everybody's first, right, like you've never done, 92 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:06,520 Speaker 1: you've never experienced or something if you're doing it something new, 93 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:08,280 Speaker 1: you know, like I've never met a head coach. I 94 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 1: got that. Uh, but you know, I'm comfortable if the 95 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 1: guy is a right fit, then he's a right fit. 96 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:18,240 Speaker 1: Sideline before I have you'd be comfortable of doing that 97 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:20,800 Speaker 1: if you had to, Yeah, absolutely, and you you've i 98 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:23,280 Speaker 1: mean when you call plays for all these years and 99 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 1: I'm sure at the end of the game we're no lose, 100 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:27,240 Speaker 1: you're exhausted. I mean you know you put everything into it. Yeah, 101 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 1: so you have that if you do that and now 102 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 1: you have everything else. Yeah, no question is it is 103 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 1: it too much to do that? Or you don't know? 104 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:38,040 Speaker 1: But what do you think? Look, there's I mean, I 105 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:40,480 Speaker 1: think the two head coaches in the Super Bowl right now, 106 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:45,279 Speaker 1: our calm plays that correct. But again, if I could 107 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 1: have someone do that, Look, I'll tell you this, I've 108 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:51,480 Speaker 1: had I've had, you know, some success, I've had some failures, 109 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:53,560 Speaker 1: and I'm okay with that. I'm fine with that because 110 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:55,680 Speaker 1: I think you learn a lot from your failures if 111 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 1: you can put together a good staff that you trust 112 00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:01,159 Speaker 1: that allows you to you your job better. You know 113 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:03,640 Speaker 1: I found that out at Buffalo the last few years. 114 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:06,680 Speaker 1: Is I had a phenomenal staff that I could trust 115 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:08,279 Speaker 1: them to do their jobs so I could do my 116 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:10,320 Speaker 1: job better. And ideally that's what you'd like to do. 117 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 1: You know where we're at with that yet, we we 118 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:17,160 Speaker 1: really have we haven't hire an offensive coordinator yet. Do 119 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 1: you expect in your relationship with Joe do you expect 120 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:25,120 Speaker 1: to say to him, you know, I want this type 121 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 1: of a player, or when you come to a draft pick, 122 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:31,719 Speaker 1: I want that guy, and have that discussion. Yeah, I think. 123 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:34,840 Speaker 1: I mean every building in the league has those discussions. 124 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:37,640 Speaker 1: I think it's important that that both whether it's the 125 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 1: general manager, head coach, listen and at the end of 126 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:41,840 Speaker 1: the day, you're not going to get every player that 127 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:44,160 Speaker 1: you might want or a coach might want. But when 128 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:46,680 Speaker 1: you leave that draft room that we're all unified and 129 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 1: who we selected and we're ready to help him improve. 130 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:52,440 Speaker 1: So you know that that it's okay to disagree, it's 131 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 1: just not okay to be disagreeable on every single statement. 132 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:58,359 Speaker 1: So again, you want people to have their own thoughts 133 00:05:58,360 --> 00:06:00,720 Speaker 1: and their ideas and to have some agreements. I think 134 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 1: that's healthy environment. But at the end of the day, 135 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:05,320 Speaker 1: we come to a conclusion together and we go forward 136 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 1: a likable guy. I mean, can you be a hard 137 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:11,599 Speaker 1: mess too? Yeah? I think you gotta ask some of 138 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 1: my guys. Um. Again, I think in my early career 139 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:20,360 Speaker 1: I was really tough. I remember one of my first 140 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:23,359 Speaker 1: days at New England and I'm helping run the scout 141 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:26,040 Speaker 1: team and I forgot who it was. But they do 142 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:28,719 Speaker 1: something and I go, I mean, I go off. You know, 143 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:31,160 Speaker 1: I was a g a for nick I start, mother, 144 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 1: I'm ripping them. William mc ginnis, he's like a little guy. 145 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:40,839 Speaker 1: Let's right now, got blessed really back. I love them, um, 146 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 1: But I think that you learned too as you go. 147 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:46,760 Speaker 1: Um how you communicate with players? Uh, my kids, I 148 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:48,200 Speaker 1: don't know. If they're still around, you can ask them. 149 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 1: If I'm a hard ass, I get on them pretty good. 150 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 1: But again, I think there's mutual respect in this business, 151 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:56,920 Speaker 1: and I think you as a leader have to have 152 00:06:57,000 --> 00:07:01,280 Speaker 1: tough conversations, truthful conversations, and each situation is a little 153 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:04,800 Speaker 1: bit different. Um. Again, this is the first day. I'm 154 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 1: I'm anxious to get going. I look forward to building 155 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:10,440 Speaker 1: a relationship with you guys. And it's the first day, 156 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:11,880 Speaker 1: though we got we got a long way to go. 157 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:13,920 Speaker 1: I understand there's gonna be a lot of ups and downs, 158 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:17,080 Speaker 1: and uh, you know, hopefully more ups and downs sooner 159 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:21,520 Speaker 1: the better. But that's a territory anecdote, trying anecdotally. Do 160 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:24,080 Speaker 1: you have a memory of Super Bowl twenty five? You 161 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:27,480 Speaker 1: were a Bills fan, right? Yeah? Were you with your 162 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:30,640 Speaker 1: buddies when that kick went? Right? I was with my grandparents, 163 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:33,080 Speaker 1: and I think I you know, I didn't live in 164 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 1: a very big house growing up. The ceilings weren't too high, 165 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 1: so you know, despite what you may think, I had 166 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 1: some hops and uh I hit the ceiling pretty good. 167 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 1: Um yeah, I remember it. Yeah, I certainly do. Yeah, 168 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 1: and now you're working for the team that won that game. Yeah. Yeah,