WEBVTT - Mena Suvari Meets World 0:00:19.280 --> 0:00:23.800 So I've been going into production on a project which I. 0:00:23.760 --> 0:00:26.319 Will be able to tell you all about a couple 0:00:26.320 --> 0:00:26.680 of months. 0:00:27.360 --> 0:00:31.320 But so we've been, you know, doing days at my house, 0:00:31.400 --> 0:00:35.800 mostly with very small crew, mostly just my producers and whatnot. 0:00:35.920 --> 0:00:39.120 But day one, we like I made. 0:00:39.000 --> 0:00:41.720 Sure we got like great bagels, had them all laid out, 0:00:42.280 --> 0:00:44.519 and then we break for lunch and we're like, oh, 0:00:44.560 --> 0:00:47.080 what are we going to order for lunch? By day three, 0:00:47.600 --> 0:00:51.360 we're like just sandwiches? What am I? You know, I 0:00:51.479 --> 0:00:53.760 just realized, like this is the way production goes, right, 0:00:53.840 --> 0:00:57.319 Like the quality of food just gets steadily worse as 0:00:57.320 --> 0:00:58.480 you just get into production. 0:00:59.040 --> 0:01:00.760 And it made me think of some of. 0:01:00.640 --> 0:01:03.840 The worst food that I've had on sets because they 0:01:03.880 --> 0:01:07.200 can go so extreme. There are there have been sets 0:01:07.400 --> 0:01:10.480 where you go there and like they have you know, 0:01:10.680 --> 0:01:14.319 sushi and catered lunches, and it's just like the budget 0:01:14.440 --> 0:01:17.399 is insane. And then there are other sets where that's 0:01:17.680 --> 0:01:21.400 really not the case. And for me, like the best example, 0:01:21.400 --> 0:01:23.080 and this is I might have actually told a version 0:01:23.120 --> 0:01:24.400 of the story. I know it's out there in the 0:01:24.400 --> 0:01:26.480 world because I think it's even like a trivia effect 0:01:26.560 --> 0:01:27.160 on IMDb. 0:01:27.600 --> 0:01:29.600 But I did this movie my Giant, which I know 0:01:29.640 --> 0:01:30.880 we're talking about, right. 0:01:30.920 --> 0:01:31.560 So I went to. 0:01:33.200 --> 0:01:36.640 I went to Prague to shoot this movie, and the 0:01:36.680 --> 0:01:37.319 food was. 0:01:38.920 --> 0:01:43.320 Subpar, allowed to be desired, And there is a scene 0:01:43.800 --> 0:01:49.000 where I get puked on by the giant, and in 0:01:49.120 --> 0:01:53.240 order to make it, you know, believable, they took some 0:01:53.280 --> 0:01:58.880 potatoes and carrots and food dye and made this giant 0:01:58.960 --> 0:02:01.440 vat because I had to be covered in vomit. 0:02:01.520 --> 0:02:03.960 It was one of those classic kid actor scenes. 0:02:03.720 --> 0:02:05.360 Where it's just cover the kid and stuff. 0:02:06.800 --> 0:02:10.080 So they had this giant vat sitting on the set 0:02:11.400 --> 0:02:13.880 and the extras. 0:02:14.320 --> 0:02:17.120 There were like one hundred extras that day. I thought 0:02:17.120 --> 0:02:20.720 it was lunch. Oh no, they ate out of vomit. 0:02:21.320 --> 0:02:23.800 They had to stop them from eating, like they were 0:02:23.840 --> 0:02:26.480 like no, no, no, no, that's production. 0:02:27.600 --> 0:02:29.360 There there with bowls and spoons. 0:02:29.960 --> 0:02:34.920 You've got catered vomit, cater voit, catered vomit. So have 0:02:34.960 --> 0:02:36.079 you guys ever had. 0:02:35.919 --> 0:02:39.920 Like a truly great or truly horrible on set food experience. 0:02:40.720 --> 0:02:44.160 Well, I'll tell you right now. The movie I directed 0:02:44.200 --> 0:02:44.680 for two. 0:02:44.600 --> 0:02:48.000 B no food budget. 0:02:48.080 --> 0:02:51.480 First of all, we ran out of craft service on 0:02:51.600 --> 0:02:52.480 like day three. 0:02:52.840 --> 0:02:55.000 What there was just there's not even a red vine 0:02:55.000 --> 0:02:55.440 to be had. 0:02:55.520 --> 0:02:56.040 There was there. 0:02:56.120 --> 0:02:58.920 There was not a red vine, and I I all 0:02:58.919 --> 0:03:00.799 of a sudden noticed it. I was like, what, why 0:03:00.880 --> 0:03:02.920 is there? Why is there nothing to eat here? And 0:03:02.960 --> 0:03:06.680 they're like, yeah, we ran out, and so I paid 0:03:07.000 --> 0:03:11.720 out of pocket have a massive cost go run where 0:03:11.720 --> 0:03:17.240 we could just bring all the stuff that that movie had. 0:03:17.240 --> 0:03:19.359 Some of the worst craft service I've ever had. 0:03:19.440 --> 0:03:20.680 Yeah, yeah too. 0:03:21.320 --> 0:03:24.600 Now I'm doing Dancing with the Stars and on tape. 0:03:24.639 --> 0:03:27.760 First of all, the little craft service thing on Magical 0:03:27.960 --> 0:03:31.680 Magic Magical, they have a section that's very clearly geared 0:03:31.720 --> 0:03:35.080 toward kids. So it's like all the different types of 0:03:35.120 --> 0:03:38.200 fruit snacks, all the different type of granola bars, a 0:03:38.280 --> 0:03:42.800 candy section, jelly beans, like you name it. I get 0:03:42.800 --> 0:03:45.520 a writer for in my room. Anything I want and 0:03:45.640 --> 0:03:48.040 need in my writer the minute you arrive. 0:03:48.440 --> 0:03:51.720 Stinky broccoli. Yeah, I don't. 0:03:51.880 --> 0:03:54.840 It wouldn't be it wouldn't be a day without writer, 0:03:54.960 --> 0:04:00.680 Stinky stinky Brockley. I'll tell you why, because you're the 0:04:00.720 --> 0:04:03.160 one who wanted vegetables. Yeah you. 0:04:05.400 --> 0:04:10.320 Peanut butter cups and water and peanut butter cups. 0:04:10.640 --> 0:04:17.440 I had waterbbly water yeah yeah, so. 0:04:17.760 --> 0:04:20.760 Uh no, But like the minute we get there, we 0:04:20.760 --> 0:04:24.960 we tape next door to an Airwan whatever, I want avocado, toast, 0:04:25.120 --> 0:04:26.680 two eggs. 0:04:26.720 --> 0:04:28.960 So they're moving money around from Switzerland so they can 0:04:29.000 --> 0:04:29.520 go to Airwon. 0:04:29.720 --> 0:04:32.040 Yes, cut a cup of coffee from a very specific 0:04:32.080 --> 0:04:36.960 coffee place called Dante. Yeah they bring I mean, I mean, oh, 0:04:37.000 --> 0:04:39.760 I want an energy shot? Nope, yeah, they just all 0:04:39.839 --> 0:04:41.200 day off. Do you what do you want for lunch? 0:04:41.920 --> 0:04:43.359 It's glorious. 0:04:43.440 --> 0:04:46.200 It's actually glorious. Yeah, it's pretty it's pretty great. So 0:04:46.240 --> 0:04:48.800 I have definitely I have been on both sides of 0:04:48.839 --> 0:04:49.480 the spectrum. 0:04:49.560 --> 0:04:49.920 Yeah. 0:04:50.000 --> 0:04:51.480 Yeah, so yeah, I mean I have too. 0:04:51.520 --> 0:04:54.400 Obviously you go to you do smaller productions where there's nothing. 0:04:54.400 --> 0:04:57.320 I was just at a convention where the green room 0:04:57.400 --> 0:05:00.640 was just a room, like a small closet room. No water, 0:05:01.120 --> 0:05:05.880 no napkins, no anything, literally nothing, literally nothing. It was 0:05:05.920 --> 0:05:08.120 just it was three chairs that if you wanted to 0:05:08.160 --> 0:05:09.680 sit down and get some food you could. 0:05:10.760 --> 0:05:13.080 But I was did will do you remember? 0:05:13.120 --> 0:05:15.360 It was just like, oh, there's a whole bunch of sandwiches, 0:05:15.360 --> 0:05:18.320 there's turkey or turkey or turkey. 0:05:18.440 --> 0:05:20.000 Yeah. 0:05:20.120 --> 0:05:21.760 No. But one of the best shows I was ever on. 0:05:21.800 --> 0:05:23.400 Every day they just brought the in and out truck. 0:05:23.680 --> 0:05:27.479 Oh my gosh, was every day magical. Yeah, the days 0:05:27.520 --> 0:05:30.720 that I was there, that red meat, it was it 0:05:30.760 --> 0:05:31.479 was magic. 0:05:32.560 --> 0:05:32.640 No. 0:05:32.760 --> 0:05:35.200 Actually, the more red the more burgers you eat, the 0:05:35.200 --> 0:05:38.720 healthier they get. People don't know that there's a there's 0:05:39.800 --> 0:05:42.000 threshold where then it becomes diet food. 0:05:42.080 --> 0:05:44.400 So that's just science. That's everybody knows that. 0:05:44.440 --> 0:05:46.520 So I had a burger last night. 0:05:47.400 --> 0:05:49.039 You know, it was dropped off to you, wasn't it 0:05:49.080 --> 0:05:49.719 at your whole. 0:05:51.200 --> 0:05:56.720 Producer box. Yeah, I'm so hungry by the time our 0:05:56.760 --> 0:05:57.520 tape nights are over. 0:05:57.680 --> 0:05:59.360 And imagine because I'm getting hungry. 0:05:59.400 --> 0:06:00.599 Now, how are you too? 0:06:00.640 --> 0:06:02.360 Should we move forward into this episode? 0:06:02.480 --> 0:06:03.880 Yeah? Are we going to have a vat of puke 0:06:03.920 --> 0:06:06.120 for lunch? Is that that's the plan. That's what are 0:06:06.120 --> 0:06:06.479 we doing. 0:06:06.600 --> 0:06:08.840 Somebody chop up the carrots and bring out the tomatoes. 0:06:08.880 --> 0:06:11.560 It's time for Pukelu's puke lunch. 0:06:11.880 --> 0:06:15.120 Awesome. Please don't eat that. Please don't eat that. That's part. 0:06:15.160 --> 0:06:20.960 Please put the puke down. Welcome to Pod meets World. Oh, 0:06:21.080 --> 0:06:21.719 I say my name. 0:06:24.360 --> 0:06:27.640 You're officially doing too much. Danielle. You're officially doing too much. 0:06:27.680 --> 0:06:31.279 She's gonna start tangling seriously. 0:06:31.760 --> 0:06:32.880 Welcome to Pod Meets World. 0:06:32.880 --> 0:06:35.920 I'm Daniel Fischel, I'm right or Strong, and I'm Wilfredell. 0:06:48.120 --> 0:06:50.559 When it comes to the legacy of Boy Meets World, 0:06:50.680 --> 0:06:53.919 there is a lot we leave behind, the effortless, family 0:06:53.960 --> 0:06:56.960 friendly mix of comedy and drama that TV still has 0:06:57.040 --> 0:07:01.200 problems perfecting the comfort of its characters. Eric T. Panga, 0:07:01.200 --> 0:07:05.680 Sean Angela, I mean Bill Daniels. It seems like, no 0:07:05.720 --> 0:07:08.000 matter how many Emmys he won before he took the 0:07:08.080 --> 0:07:10.840 role of mister Feenie, it's now the character that will 0:07:10.840 --> 0:07:15.360 define an incredible career in Hollywood. But one other very 0:07:15.360 --> 0:07:18.120 cool aspect about Boy Meets World that seems even more 0:07:18.200 --> 0:07:21.920 relevant in twenty twenty five the careers that started right there. 0:07:21.960 --> 0:07:24.880 On an ABC Friday Night. We've talked to Adam Scott, 0:07:25.040 --> 0:07:28.360 whose first real TV set was that of John Adams, High, 0:07:28.680 --> 0:07:33.240 Ethan Sipple early career, Linda Cardellini, and Britney Murphy. We 0:07:33.280 --> 0:07:36.840 had future superstars just driving by saying hi, on their 0:07:36.880 --> 0:07:39.960 way to much bigger projects. Yet it seems like our 0:07:40.000 --> 0:07:42.640 show is still one of the things they're constantly reminded 0:07:42.680 --> 0:07:45.760 of now three decades later, and our guest this week 0:07:45.880 --> 0:07:49.280 is a perfect example of this trajectory. She was a 0:07:49.320 --> 0:07:52.720 two timer, appearing in two Boy Meets World episodes, season 0:07:52.760 --> 0:07:56.280 two's Danger Boy and season three's The Grass Is Always Greener, 0:07:56.600 --> 0:08:00.920 playing Laura and Hillary respectively. But she'd breakthrough in nineteen 0:08:01.000 --> 0:08:04.080 ninety nine with two films that helped define an entire 0:08:04.240 --> 0:08:08.120 era of cinema, The Gross Out Slapstick of American Pie, 0:08:08.400 --> 0:08:11.679 creating a revolution in theaters for the R rated teen comedy, 0:08:12.040 --> 0:08:15.520 and American Beauty, a Best Picture winner that set the 0:08:15.520 --> 0:08:18.680 standard for black comedy and is constantly listed as one 0:08:18.720 --> 0:08:22.080 of the century's best. She'd become Hollywood's it girl at 0:08:22.120 --> 0:08:25.200 a speed that's rarely seen on the screen. She'd follow 0:08:25.280 --> 0:08:28.400 up with movies like Sugar and Spice, Domino and Spun 0:08:28.760 --> 0:08:31.360 and Let's not forget about the American Pie sequels, a 0:08:31.400 --> 0:08:35.040 franchise that appears to be getting another installment soon, and 0:08:35.080 --> 0:08:38.120 she's made endless TV appearances from Psych to Six Feet 0:08:38.200 --> 0:08:41.120 Under to Chicago Hope. But today we are talking to 0:08:41.160 --> 0:08:43.680 her about the start of her career, the time she 0:08:43.760 --> 0:08:47.880 played two different flirty girls on the TGIF sitcom Boy 0:08:47.920 --> 0:08:52.480 Meets World and helped our legacy live forever. Welcome to 0:08:52.520 --> 0:08:55.120 Pod meets World. Someone we have hoped to interview for 0:08:55.200 --> 0:08:57.120 a while. It's Mina Suvari. 0:08:57.840 --> 0:08:58.640 She's kind of there. 0:09:01.480 --> 0:09:07.360 Hey, does this feel so weird to be back all 0:09:07.360 --> 0:09:08.880 in the room together thirty years later? 0:09:09.400 --> 0:09:13.800 This is wild? This is wild. I don't know if 0:09:13.800 --> 0:09:16.600 I have enough words, you know, guys, I was. I 0:09:16.679 --> 0:09:23.160 was looking up the episodes that I was in, which 0:09:23.320 --> 0:09:25.480 is like a whole other conversation. I was in two 0:09:25.520 --> 0:09:30.719 of them, but it's my first credit on IM. 0:09:31.400 --> 0:09:33.760 Wow, So was it actually your first job then? 0:09:34.880 --> 0:09:35.240 Well? 0:09:35.400 --> 0:09:38.960 I had done some commercials. Yeah, I had done a 0:09:38.960 --> 0:09:43.640 couple of commercials. I did a Rice Serroni commercial, which 0:09:44.520 --> 0:09:46.640 I always joke that I was like the other girl. 0:09:46.640 --> 0:09:50.120 I didn't even get to eat the rice aerronie and 0:09:50.160 --> 0:09:51.240 I got my SAG card. 0:09:51.720 --> 0:09:54.160 Okay doing that? Did they let you eat it at 0:09:54.240 --> 0:09:55.000 lunch at least? 0:09:55.120 --> 0:09:55.520 Or no? 0:09:57.400 --> 0:10:00.760 Funny? Do you you know the actress Vanessa Shaw? Yeah, 0:10:00.920 --> 0:10:05.480 so it was her sister Natalie Shaw, And it was 0:10:05.559 --> 0:10:08.600 like a joke where it's like, you know, we're at 0:10:08.679 --> 0:10:10.720 high school, we run into each other and wearing like 0:10:10.720 --> 0:10:13.320 the same outfit, and then she was like talking about 0:10:13.360 --> 0:10:15.360 it over the race, and so I was. 0:10:15.320 --> 0:10:19.960 Like the other girl like can I have a bite anything? 0:10:20.640 --> 0:10:22.640 But this was but so I did. I did that. 0:10:22.720 --> 0:10:25.120 I did like a Pizza Hut commercial. I did a 0:10:25.160 --> 0:10:29.920 Kodak commercial, and then yeah, I was like doing these 0:10:30.000 --> 0:10:37.000 kind of like guest spots, you know, yeah, the Chicago Hope. 0:10:37.480 --> 0:10:42.400 I was always like the rebellious teenager or like totally nineties, 0:10:42.440 --> 0:10:46.200 like slightly naughty, solicious team. 0:10:46.400 --> 0:10:49.800 Were you played some flirty girls in your two episodes 0:10:49.800 --> 0:10:52.040 of Boy Meets World. We first saw you in season 0:10:52.040 --> 0:10:55.600 two in Danger Boy Uh, and we just talked about 0:10:55.640 --> 0:10:58.000 in your intro that there are quite a few people 0:10:58.120 --> 0:11:01.200 Boy Meets World was their first credit Adam Scott Ethan 0:11:01.240 --> 0:11:05.160 Sipplee You had you ever seen Boy Meets World before 0:11:05.520 --> 0:11:06.520 you auditioned for it? 0:11:07.400 --> 0:11:10.280 No, but it's not It has nothing to do with that. 0:11:10.600 --> 0:11:13.960 I just sort of no. I mean I still kind 0:11:14.000 --> 0:11:17.080 of live under a rock like I wasn't. I was 0:11:17.520 --> 0:11:20.000 kind of living in this space of being in LA 0:11:20.280 --> 0:11:25.840 and it being new and adapting to I came from 0:11:25.880 --> 0:11:31.040 South Carolina, so like adapting to high school and auditioning 0:11:31.480 --> 0:11:34.360 after school and now I was sort of like in 0:11:34.400 --> 0:11:39.280 this weird grind of you know, it took me a 0:11:39.520 --> 0:11:45.040 long time to really understand like the business aspect of things, 0:11:45.280 --> 0:11:47.880 or kind of being a part of it. I was. 0:11:48.000 --> 0:11:50.839 It's so hard to describe, but I was really just 0:11:50.920 --> 0:11:53.320 kind of living in this place of like, you know, 0:11:54.440 --> 0:11:57.720 doing this, doing that, like not thinking too much about it, 0:11:58.040 --> 0:12:01.160 going on the auditions. I do you remember though, with 0:12:01.280 --> 0:12:06.520 the show and the first episode for me going over 0:12:06.960 --> 0:12:12.319 that line he drinks water, like over and over and over. 0:12:13.080 --> 0:12:15.280 I'm really the first episode. I remember your second one. 0:12:15.280 --> 0:12:18.400 You played like a bouncer, like letting people into the 0:12:18.559 --> 0:12:21.280 like club, Yeah, where I think it's where Danielle, you 0:12:21.280 --> 0:12:24.000 were pretending to be the French. French all right, but 0:12:24.040 --> 0:12:26.360 what was your first episode? Something about drinking water? 0:12:26.600 --> 0:12:29.800 No, I remember your I don't know why, but your 0:12:29.960 --> 0:12:33.040 exact line and performance sticks in my head. 0:12:33.559 --> 0:12:35.800 I don't know why does he spits water? Why does 0:12:35.800 --> 0:12:38.040 he spit water? It's just in my mind. 0:12:37.920 --> 0:12:39.560 When he does, when he's pretending to be the fountain, 0:12:39.679 --> 0:12:40.520 remember when he's. 0:12:40.320 --> 0:12:41.600 Like, well, there's it. 0:12:41.640 --> 0:12:45.960 I just watched it again. Another girl. I assume my 0:12:46.080 --> 0:12:49.560 friend you and writer you're like the girls are here 0:12:49.760 --> 0:12:52.600 or like the girls are coming, which is always and 0:12:52.640 --> 0:12:58.560 then we kind of show up and she mentions that, yeah, 0:12:58.600 --> 0:13:01.720 he spits water, and then I'm like, he spits water, 0:13:02.160 --> 0:13:04.720 and then something like, oh, I want to see that, 0:13:04.800 --> 0:13:07.880 can you do it for me? It was funny watching 0:13:07.880 --> 0:13:12.720 it again now because I remember doing it like a 0:13:12.800 --> 0:13:16.960 lot more I don't know, with like more pizazz or. 0:13:17.200 --> 0:13:20.480 More more like when they were really. 0:13:21.440 --> 0:13:24.400 They used like the one that was like the middle 0:13:24.400 --> 0:13:27.640 of the road, like kind of like interested, but like not. 0:13:27.760 --> 0:13:29.600 Even doing it all week by the time we got 0:13:29.640 --> 0:13:31.120 to tape. Now you were probably just like. 0:13:33.200 --> 0:13:34.880 I mean, my mom would talk about it too, and 0:13:34.880 --> 0:13:37.280 I would runt it with her. He drinks water, He 0:13:37.400 --> 0:13:40.640 drinks water, like because it was like my wine. 0:13:40.960 --> 0:13:48.040 Yes, your first big job, your first drink. He drinks water, drinks. 0:13:47.920 --> 0:13:52.120 He spits exactly funny too because that was such a 0:13:52.400 --> 0:13:55.520 I mean, I only did it really with this show, 0:13:55.800 --> 0:14:00.720 and then there was another show that I guests start on, 0:14:01.000 --> 0:14:04.600 but that whole experience, and I know you guys were 0:14:04.640 --> 0:14:06.679 so used to this, but it was like a totally 0:14:06.720 --> 0:14:11.360 different entity and like so nerve wracking being there an audience, 0:14:11.480 --> 0:14:15.040 and like because I haven't I don't have like a 0:14:15.040 --> 0:14:18.840 lot of theater experience, so it was pretty pretty like 0:14:18.960 --> 0:14:24.080 exciting but also terrifying at the moment. You couldn't mess up, 0:14:24.200 --> 0:14:27.320 You couldn't. There was a lot of that, you know, 0:14:27.400 --> 0:14:28.920 that those those nerves around it. 0:14:28.960 --> 0:14:31.960 For me, Do you remember your audition at all? 0:14:32.840 --> 0:14:36.480 I don't. Can we talk about why I was in 0:14:36.560 --> 0:14:41.680 two episodes? Yes, different characters because it always makes me laugh? 0:14:41.800 --> 0:14:45.680 And when you talk about other people coming from the show, 0:14:46.720 --> 0:14:47.320 did they. 0:14:47.200 --> 0:14:47.800 Ever do that? 0:14:48.200 --> 0:14:50.640 Yeah? It was tradition. 0:14:50.920 --> 0:14:54.520 Ye. Really, It's so interesting to me because it blows 0:14:54.600 --> 0:14:57.520 my mind that I don't know how much that would 0:14:57.560 --> 0:14:58.600 happen nowadays. 0:14:58.720 --> 0:15:02.880 Like no, because there's there was no streaming at the time, 0:15:02.960 --> 0:15:06.120 so you couldn't binge. Yeah, so it's like if you 0:15:06.280 --> 0:15:08.520 show up here and then hey, you show up six 0:15:08.640 --> 0:15:10.680 months later, nobody's going to put the two together. 0:15:10.920 --> 0:15:11.080 Now. 0:15:11.200 --> 0:15:12.160 It's like, wait a minute. 0:15:12.320 --> 0:15:16.240 Our producers also just really if they liked somebody, especially 0:15:16.280 --> 0:15:18.840 a kid, you know, because the pickings were slim, they'd 0:15:18.880 --> 0:15:21.120 be like, oh, we'll just bring so and so back, 0:15:21.240 --> 0:15:21.400 you know. 0:15:21.880 --> 0:15:23.200 But I don't know did you have to audition for 0:15:23.240 --> 0:15:24.760 the second one or I'm. 0:15:24.520 --> 0:15:27.080 Pretty sure I did, guys, okay for sure, but I 0:15:27.280 --> 0:15:31.040 don't remember the audition per se. And I do know, 0:15:31.760 --> 0:15:34.440 but that's just me because again I'm horrible. But I 0:15:35.200 --> 0:15:38.840 do have a lot of photos as well. Oh really, 0:15:38.960 --> 0:15:43.400 both of us. I have both, and I'm so bad, 0:15:44.120 --> 0:15:45.800 damn it. I'd have to come back on. 0:15:46.000 --> 0:15:47.120 Oh my god, I want to see those. 0:15:47.920 --> 0:15:49.720 If you can just take pictures of them or scan 0:15:49.840 --> 0:15:51.680 them and email them to us, we would love to 0:15:51.720 --> 0:15:53.440 see them. We'd love to post them on our socials. 0:15:53.680 --> 0:15:55.600 Yes, I do have them, and I have some of 0:15:55.680 --> 0:15:59.200 me like in the makeup chairs, yes, getting ready, And 0:15:59.240 --> 0:16:01.680 then I have some of us like outside the studio. 0:16:03.400 --> 0:16:07.280 That's so cute out by the studio door. Yeah, you know, 0:16:08.000 --> 0:16:08.680 being kids. 0:16:10.320 --> 0:16:14.280 Do you remember the wardrobe? It is very nineties and 0:16:14.560 --> 0:16:17.640 we just loved it. You're wearing a tight green sweater 0:16:17.920 --> 0:16:21.400 over a pink polka dot top. Yes, and you were 0:16:21.480 --> 0:16:24.640 actually one of two girls to wear that. 0:16:24.920 --> 0:16:27.000 Polka dot top on the show. 0:16:27.640 --> 0:16:31.120 Oh we saw a few episodes. Yeah, we saw a 0:16:31.160 --> 0:16:33.200 few episodes later and I was like, Hey, that's a 0:16:33.280 --> 0:16:36.960 pink pot top. Dare they That's what I'm saying. 0:16:37.920 --> 0:16:39.800 So they had this kind of theme like we'll have 0:16:39.960 --> 0:16:44.080 them back. We like the polka dot body suit or whatever. 0:16:44.360 --> 0:16:46.920 Maybe we'll change it up. And put a green sweater 0:16:47.040 --> 0:16:50.240 over it. I did see, which I thought was really cute. 0:16:50.440 --> 0:16:55.800 Somebody commenting that they they watched that episode because they 0:16:55.960 --> 0:16:57.720 thought my outfit was so cool. 0:16:58.080 --> 0:17:01.240 Oh yeah, okay, it is. It's very cool. You looked 0:17:01.440 --> 0:17:02.200 so cool at it. 0:17:03.480 --> 0:17:05.800 And in the second episode with like the was it 0:17:05.920 --> 0:17:09.200 like Doc Martin's and like the dress, yeah, very nineties, 0:17:09.240 --> 0:17:09.760 it's all back. 0:17:10.560 --> 0:17:14.560 Oh yeah, it's I know, I know. Do you remember 0:17:14.600 --> 0:17:16.399 any I mean, I want to see these pictures of 0:17:16.440 --> 0:17:18.200 you with writer. I think that sounds so cute, But like, 0:17:18.240 --> 0:17:21.320 do you remember any specific interactions with with any of us? 0:17:21.720 --> 0:17:25.200 I just remember everybody being like really nice and friendly 0:17:25.720 --> 0:17:30.480 and you know, just welcoming. And again, I think I 0:17:30.680 --> 0:17:33.920 was really caught up with a lot of nerves and 0:17:34.240 --> 0:17:40.840 like just feeling kind of not like fully overwhelmed, but 0:17:40.960 --> 0:17:42.840 like starstruck to all of it, you know. 0:17:43.760 --> 0:17:44.840 And I hung out. 0:17:45.480 --> 0:17:49.960 I had such a crush on you, and I do 0:17:50.119 --> 0:17:53.560 spend Yes, I spent the entire week trying to hang 0:17:53.600 --> 0:17:55.960 out with you as much as I could. 0:17:56.400 --> 0:17:58.879 You don't know this, Maybe I wasn't that obvious, but 0:17:59.080 --> 0:18:00.240 like I remember, you. 0:18:00.240 --> 0:18:02.119 And I spend a lot of time together, and like 0:18:02.560 --> 0:18:05.040 hanging out in the classroom and schoolroom and then and 0:18:05.080 --> 0:18:05.440 you were. 0:18:05.400 --> 0:18:08.119 Just the coolest girl I had ever met. I was 0:18:08.240 --> 0:18:09.159 like obsessed with you. 0:18:10.160 --> 0:18:12.280 Well, that just shows like how kind of dumb I am, 0:18:12.320 --> 0:18:13.960 because I just thought you were really nice. 0:18:17.080 --> 0:18:18.399 He's like this so friendly. 0:18:19.080 --> 0:18:21.080 Yeah, but it was. Yeah, I do. 0:18:21.200 --> 0:18:24.240 Remember us, like, you know, like hitting it off and 0:18:24.320 --> 0:18:25.720 feeling more connected. 0:18:26.200 --> 0:18:29.400 Yeah, and that meant everything, you know, because I mean 0:18:30.240 --> 0:18:33.920 it's you know, a bit like later in my career, 0:18:34.040 --> 0:18:36.359 I was I was able to do an arc on 0:18:36.720 --> 0:18:38.680 Six Feet Under, and it was kind of like that 0:18:38.840 --> 0:18:42.840 same thing, like you're going into this, you know, this world, 0:18:42.920 --> 0:18:46.000 this entity that's already been completely set up, and it's 0:18:46.000 --> 0:18:48.560 a family, and it's like so hard to fit into that, 0:18:48.680 --> 0:18:51.920 and especially when you're just doing like, you know, a 0:18:52.000 --> 0:18:53.159 couple of lines. Right. 0:18:53.359 --> 0:18:58.000 Yeah, So you're back for season three for The Grass 0:18:58.080 --> 0:19:00.600 is Always Greener. You play another flirty all this time 0:19:00.680 --> 0:19:04.120 named Hillary. And I think it's so interesting that every 0:19:04.200 --> 0:19:06.480 time we ask somebody who did more than one episode 0:19:06.520 --> 0:19:08.480 and we say, do you remember having to audition again, 0:19:08.560 --> 0:19:10.920 most of the time the answer is no. And it 0:19:11.080 --> 0:19:14.399 really does make me think I find it hard to 0:19:14.480 --> 0:19:18.360 believe they would make her audition again, especially Michael, who 0:19:18.440 --> 0:19:21.280 loved working with actors. He just liked working with and 0:19:21.440 --> 0:19:24.400 like regularly would bring back actors. Michael was always really 0:19:24.440 --> 0:19:26.239 good about that, Like if you liked somebody, he'd bring 0:19:26.280 --> 0:19:27.040 them back on another show. 0:19:27.080 --> 0:19:29.400 I have the same casting director, Sally, Yeah, for all 0:19:29.560 --> 0:19:31.639 six all seven seasons. 0:19:31.680 --> 0:19:33.320 So I feel like, yeah, I feel like you were 0:19:33.359 --> 0:19:34.359 just on the roster. 0:19:34.400 --> 0:19:36.960 You know. I feel like, oh, i'd love to know. 0:19:37.200 --> 0:19:40.040 I mean, that was the biggest compliment. I don't. 0:19:40.440 --> 0:19:43.200 I wouldn't put money on that, but that sounds nice. 0:19:44.160 --> 0:19:46.600 It's like I mean, because you know, it's. 0:19:46.600 --> 0:19:49.080 That was just part of it. Yeah, And I mean 0:19:49.160 --> 0:19:51.959 it's wild just to see how much of it has changed, 0:19:52.200 --> 0:19:57.119 Like that was such just again a big part of 0:19:57.200 --> 0:19:59.560 it going into a room with like I don't know, 0:20:00.200 --> 0:20:03.879 twelve plus people and I have to kind of like 0:20:04.359 --> 0:20:07.960 do it one shot. And you know, nowadays it's like 0:20:08.560 --> 0:20:11.760 your can self tape, you know, comfort wherever and do 0:20:11.880 --> 0:20:13.720 it as many times as you want. You don't have 0:20:13.880 --> 0:20:15.080 that part of it. 0:20:15.320 --> 0:20:19.800 So yeah, do you remember getting any specific direction on 0:20:19.920 --> 0:20:21.639 either of your two episodes? Do you remember working with 0:20:21.720 --> 0:20:22.240 the directors? 0:20:23.280 --> 0:20:23.800 I don't. 0:20:25.440 --> 0:20:31.240 That's horrible. To say, but it's no, I don't. But 0:20:31.480 --> 0:20:34.440 it's it's not just that part of it. I think 0:20:34.480 --> 0:20:41.000 it's also I wasn't like tuned to that in a way, 0:20:41.119 --> 0:20:43.680 Like it's so hard to describe. I sort of I 0:20:44.200 --> 0:20:47.280 wrote about my life a little while ago and sort 0:20:47.320 --> 0:20:48.320 of talked about. 0:20:50.000 --> 0:20:52.600 A lot of my younger years and like what that 0:20:52.840 --> 0:20:56.160 was like for me and what perspective I had. 0:20:56.920 --> 0:20:58.240 I was so used to it. 0:20:58.320 --> 0:20:59.840 I mean, the best way I've been able to kind 0:20:59.880 --> 0:21:01.439 of put it is that I. 0:21:01.560 --> 0:21:05.320 Was so used to kind of like doing the do 0:21:05.720 --> 0:21:10.560 like doing the grind, kind of going in as long 0:21:10.680 --> 0:21:15.040 as I completed what I had to do, Like, I 0:21:15.160 --> 0:21:18.040 felt very separate from a lot of I maybe this 0:21:18.119 --> 0:21:20.160 is why I did pick up on things of the writer, 0:21:20.320 --> 0:21:25.520 but like I felt very separate from the rest of 0:21:25.920 --> 0:21:30.040 like the crew or the cast. I didn't. I had 0:21:30.080 --> 0:21:34.000 to learn later in the industry, like how I really 0:21:34.160 --> 0:21:39.920 was able to hold apart with that, And so yeah, 0:21:40.160 --> 0:21:43.720 I didn't. I didn't have that perspective of like understanding 0:21:45.400 --> 0:21:47.840 what I was doing and working with the director to 0:21:48.040 --> 0:21:52.200 kind of like complete this this thing that we're all 0:21:52.440 --> 0:21:53.560 in together, right. 0:21:53.560 --> 0:21:56.080 The collaborative nature of how it comes together. 0:21:56.280 --> 0:21:58.400 Yeah. Yeah, so I think I might have been more 0:21:58.480 --> 0:22:01.720 caught up and just sort of I mean taking the direction, 0:22:01.920 --> 0:22:06.360 but not like remembering those collaborative like compete in moments. 0:22:07.760 --> 0:22:11.280 Wow, you're also fifteen, you know, like. 0:22:11.680 --> 0:22:13.560 Yeah fifteen sixteen. Yeah. 0:22:14.680 --> 0:22:16.879 Did you have a crew of young actors that you 0:22:17.000 --> 0:22:19.440 hung around with in LA around this time? Did you 0:22:19.520 --> 0:22:22.000 go to traditional school? Who were your friends? 0:22:23.040 --> 0:22:23.240 Oh? 0:22:23.400 --> 0:22:28.119 Gosh, I mean I came out to LA and I 0:22:28.240 --> 0:22:31.760 went the first two years to Notre Dame, Okay in 0:22:31.880 --> 0:22:34.960 the Valley, and I had come from an all girls school, 0:22:35.200 --> 0:22:38.360 so I was going into a co ed private Catholic 0:22:38.640 --> 0:22:44.879 not Catholic. That was very interesting. And no, I didn't. 0:22:45.200 --> 0:22:45.720 I didn't. 0:22:46.280 --> 0:22:46.720 I had to. 0:22:48.400 --> 0:22:51.240 Start all over in a way. So I did have 0:22:53.119 --> 0:22:57.400 a best friend that I hung out with the most Nicole, 0:22:59.840 --> 0:23:02.040 but I didn't have like a slew of friends. Like 0:23:02.280 --> 0:23:07.040 I was totally like the nerd, very much made fun of. 0:23:08.359 --> 0:23:12.760 It was hard for me to do work or you know, 0:23:12.840 --> 0:23:15.359 like I was given a hard time from the school 0:23:15.560 --> 0:23:19.120 or like having to do makeup work the teachers, things 0:23:19.240 --> 0:23:24.720 like that. So I joke like, you know, working on 0:23:24.760 --> 0:23:27.160 American later that it kind of gave me my high 0:23:27.200 --> 0:23:30.480 school experience because it was opposite. And then I went 0:23:30.640 --> 0:23:33.600 to Providence in Burbank for the last two years, so 0:23:34.480 --> 0:23:37.000 I transferred over. I was very much into like academics, 0:23:37.040 --> 0:23:38.119 getting my work done, but I. 0:23:38.240 --> 0:23:40.320 Was like ready to read. 0:23:40.760 --> 0:23:43.000 Yeah, you're ready to get out of there. You're originally 0:23:43.119 --> 0:23:44.960 from Rhode Island, right, but you ended up in New 0:23:45.040 --> 0:23:45.760 York to model. 0:23:46.400 --> 0:23:46.639 I was. 0:23:47.000 --> 0:23:50.920 I was born in Rhode Islands, and then I lived 0:23:51.000 --> 0:23:57.080 there till I was about well, I lived somewhere else 0:23:57.160 --> 0:23:58.879 just for one year. When I was eight, I came 0:23:58.920 --> 0:24:02.240 back to Rhode Island and fourth and fifth grade. During 0:24:02.560 --> 0:24:04.560 that time, when I was younger, we would drive to 0:24:04.640 --> 0:24:10.359 Boston and I was part of Cameo Kids, which was 0:24:10.400 --> 0:24:11.920 a modeling agency in Boston. 0:24:13.119 --> 0:24:15.440 I believe they let me go when I lost my 0:24:15.480 --> 0:24:16.160 two front teeth. 0:24:18.240 --> 0:24:24.040 You can't model anymore. Take a break. And then and 0:24:24.119 --> 0:24:28.280 then after Rhode Island for middle school, transferred from middle 0:24:28.320 --> 0:24:33.560 school to Charleston, South Carolina. And then by that time 0:24:34.000 --> 0:24:35.960 there was like a local modeling agency. It was called 0:24:36.040 --> 0:24:39.280 Milly Lewis. I just went with a friend, kind of 0:24:40.160 --> 0:24:43.080 one of those like you know, take a class and 0:24:43.320 --> 0:24:46.320 like learn how to put on makeup. Do you remember oodles? 0:24:46.560 --> 0:24:51.400 Oh, are you kidding? My kit and Kaboodle was everythingoodles. 0:24:51.400 --> 0:24:53.640 Learn how to put on makeup, like take a photo, 0:24:53.880 --> 0:24:56.160 this kind of thing. And then it started to snowball, 0:24:56.240 --> 0:24:58.600 like they wanted me to join the agency, and then 0:24:58.680 --> 0:25:01.639 they wanted me to go to a model in competition 0:25:02.320 --> 0:25:06.959 that was nationwide. Long story long. I ended up signing 0:25:07.000 --> 0:25:10.120 with Wilhelmina, but in their kids division called Wee Willie's, 0:25:10.160 --> 0:25:13.480 which was in New York. And so then I was 0:25:13.760 --> 0:25:17.880 twelve twelve, I did the summer in New York, thirteen. 0:25:17.960 --> 0:25:21.119 They wanted me to come out to La still under Wilhelmina, 0:25:21.640 --> 0:25:24.520 and then I got my race running commercial. But then 0:25:24.560 --> 0:25:29.160 they're like you should move out here and whole after 0:25:29.480 --> 0:25:33.199 big discussion, my parents decided to come out and then 0:25:33.200 --> 0:25:34.960 I started high school and so then I was just 0:25:35.040 --> 0:25:38.639 sort of like auditioning after school, that kind of thing. 0:25:38.720 --> 0:25:42.240 I remember even with Rice and wrote sorry race leaving 0:25:42.720 --> 0:25:47.000 the audition thinking the casting director absolutely hated me, like 0:25:47.080 --> 0:25:49.320 there was no way I was going to get the job. 0:25:49.440 --> 0:25:50.520 But I got the job. 0:25:51.440 --> 0:25:57.840 She's like, wow, my perceptions really off, you know, And 0:25:57.960 --> 0:25:58.560 then yeah. 0:25:58.600 --> 0:26:01.400 And then just started to did like boy, meets Roll 0:26:01.600 --> 0:26:05.480 like a Chicago Hope Er did an episode. 0:26:05.080 --> 0:26:05.480 Of R. 0:26:08.040 --> 0:26:10.080 Were your parents in the industry at all? How what 0:26:10.160 --> 0:26:11.719 did they do? How did they just are you an 0:26:11.760 --> 0:26:14.280 only child? How did they just decide to pick up 0:26:14.320 --> 0:26:15.439 and move across the country? 0:26:15.880 --> 0:26:22.280 Great question. I have three older brothers. Wow, the one 0:26:22.480 --> 0:26:24.760 up from me was a bit caught in the mix. 0:26:24.840 --> 0:26:29.320 The older two were already in college by then, beginning college. 0:26:30.160 --> 0:26:34.520 And yeah, I remember a lot of like cross country 0:26:35.560 --> 0:26:42.800 driving road trips in my grandmother's fleetwood Cadillac Nice. Those 0:26:42.840 --> 0:26:46.920 were the days of the road trips, transporting everything over. 0:26:47.080 --> 0:26:50.400 And my father had me pretty late. He was older 0:26:50.440 --> 0:26:54.160 than my mom, so he was sort of retired by then, 0:26:55.040 --> 0:26:58.200 and I can only assume, yeah, they were kind of 0:26:58.280 --> 0:27:01.480 going with it and it, but yeah, we didn't really 0:27:01.800 --> 0:27:05.720 I had uh, I have like two second cousins out here. 0:27:05.960 --> 0:27:08.560 It was like the only family, so we were able 0:27:08.600 --> 0:27:11.680 to connect with them. And then yeah, just started the 0:27:13.160 --> 0:27:17.880 the journey. You can look back and see the couple 0:27:18.119 --> 0:27:23.320 crazy managers ahead. And then but like you know, finally 0:27:23.520 --> 0:27:26.879 from from Oh, I was with gold Marshak. Do you 0:27:26.920 --> 0:27:33.239 remember Golden Marshak You reread Burbank, There was do you remember, Uh, 0:27:33.680 --> 0:27:36.280 there was that big brown building off of Olive and 0:27:36.359 --> 0:27:43.680 there was a restaurant called Adults like the Hangout. So 0:27:43.880 --> 0:27:46.960 around that time of like having the commercials and probably 0:27:47.200 --> 0:27:50.560 working on this show, I was with Golden Marshak and 0:27:50.680 --> 0:27:53.280 then I eventually was introduced to an agent at GERSH 0:27:53.440 --> 0:27:56.080 and then I was there for a bit. So yeah, 0:27:56.200 --> 0:27:58.359 I mean, I've lived here way too long. 0:28:00.000 --> 0:28:03.960 And I think about if my kid was deciding to 0:28:04.040 --> 0:28:07.840 act and then somebody said to me, listen, Adler's really talented. 0:28:07.920 --> 0:28:10.920 I think you guys should move to New York. I'd 0:28:10.960 --> 0:28:13.480 be like, well, we're obviously not going to pick up 0:28:14.320 --> 0:28:17.760 for the kid, for the six year old, like you know, 0:28:17.880 --> 0:28:21.639 it just and yet so many people we talked to 0:28:21.920 --> 0:28:24.200 who it totally paid off for that it was the 0:28:24.359 --> 0:28:27.840 right move, that families are just willing to take that 0:28:28.280 --> 0:28:33.120 leap based on you know, instinct and obviously the knowing 0:28:33.240 --> 0:28:36.399 it's it's so it's so remarkable, like thank god your 0:28:36.560 --> 0:28:40.080 parents were like, yeah, you know what, I'm retired, and 0:28:40.600 --> 0:28:42.320 you know, did your mom work? Was she able to 0:28:42.440 --> 0:28:43.520 just get a job out here? 0:28:44.320 --> 0:28:48.720 No? No, she didn't. Actually, I mean I was sort 0:28:48.760 --> 0:28:53.360 of like supporting the family then I was also going 0:28:53.400 --> 0:28:55.720 to throw in there. When we came out here, we 0:28:55.840 --> 0:28:58.920 stayed at the oak Wood, Oh yeah, which is now 0:28:59.120 --> 0:29:00.320 like something else and like. 0:29:01.800 --> 0:29:05.040 They should just go back to Oakwood. It's ridiculous. Do 0:29:05.080 --> 0:29:05.920 you remember your building? 0:29:07.120 --> 0:29:10.680 I don't remember my building, but I do. I remember 0:29:10.840 --> 0:29:14.640 like the pool area. I remember like a wreck area 0:29:14.720 --> 0:29:17.840 where I tried to take an aerobics class and just 0:29:17.960 --> 0:29:23.600 heavily mailed somewhere in the back. I was like, by 0:29:23.760 --> 0:29:26.520 my day, they had like a communal like a piano 0:29:26.640 --> 0:29:30.120 in there, and I would sort of just like wander 0:29:30.240 --> 0:29:34.520 around the oak Wood, like you know, I remember hiking too. 0:29:34.720 --> 0:29:37.960 I started hiking. I think I even hiked up like 0:29:38.040 --> 0:29:41.240 that hill that's like blind Oh yeah, do that too. 0:29:42.120 --> 0:29:43.880 Those were kind of the days too. I mean I 0:29:43.960 --> 0:29:45.960 grew up like in the eighties, and it was sort 0:29:46.000 --> 0:29:48.760 of like the lock see a dinner, yeah exactly. 0:29:49.840 --> 0:29:51.480 Yeah, come home in the light when when the sun 0:29:51.520 --> 0:29:53.040 starts to go down. That's how it's supposed to be. 0:29:53.560 --> 0:29:55.560 So I would like wander around the oak Wood, and 0:29:55.680 --> 0:29:57.800 eventually as I got older, and then we moved to 0:29:58.840 --> 0:30:04.000 off of Glen Oaks on the other side of the river. 0:30:04.880 --> 0:30:07.920 By Jan Fernando, and across the street was a Blockbuster, 0:30:08.560 --> 0:30:11.720 and I do my brother, one of my brothers worked 0:30:11.760 --> 0:30:14.120 there for like a summer memorable Buster. 0:30:14.360 --> 0:30:17.360 Oh yeah, of course. Yeah, I'm married because of block 0:30:17.520 --> 0:30:18.120 I'm married. 0:30:17.880 --> 0:30:18.680 Because of Blockbuster. 0:30:18.800 --> 0:30:22.600 So yes, oh yeah, I was returning a tape while 0:30:22.640 --> 0:30:24.560 my wife and I re met, and then I proposed 0:30:24.600 --> 0:30:26.400 her right in front of what used to be the Blockbuster. 0:30:26.480 --> 0:30:27.080 Five years later. 0:30:27.200 --> 0:30:30.920 Yeah, so he still has a Blockbuster card in his 0:30:31.000 --> 0:30:33.760 wallet that he carries around with him for. We don't know, listen, 0:30:33.880 --> 0:30:34.240 we don't know. 0:30:34.680 --> 0:30:35.440 It's amazing. 0:30:35.880 --> 0:30:37.760 I have no problems with anything. They just said. 0:30:39.040 --> 0:30:39.600 Was the best. 0:30:39.960 --> 0:30:57.240 Thank you, be kind and Rewind and be kind rewind yep, exactly. Well, 0:30:57.360 --> 0:30:59.720 after Boy Meets World, you were just off to the races. 0:31:00.120 --> 0:31:03.960 Are kiss the Girls? And soon after American Pie. So 0:31:04.480 --> 0:31:07.520 much of young Hollywood broke out from this movie while 0:31:07.560 --> 0:31:10.360 you were filming. Did you know it was special? Did 0:31:10.400 --> 0:31:11.800 it just feel special? 0:31:12.200 --> 0:31:14.720 Oh? I told you like the worst With these answers, 0:31:15.640 --> 0:31:18.800 I just had no clue. And again, I mean I've 0:31:19.160 --> 0:31:22.320 recently talked about this, but that point, that period of 0:31:22.360 --> 0:31:25.960 my life was pretty heavy and pretty dark. So I 0:31:26.800 --> 0:31:29.880 was saved very much by working on that film and 0:31:30.240 --> 0:31:34.080 you know, going to work with like Chris Klein and 0:31:34.320 --> 0:31:39.280 people that really made it beautiful and positive. It was 0:31:39.400 --> 0:31:43.480 a It was a nice rescue from a lot of things. 0:31:43.640 --> 0:31:47.480 So no, I did not have that concept. I worked 0:31:47.520 --> 0:31:50.320 on American Pie and American Beauty back to back pretty. 0:31:50.120 --> 0:31:52.400 Much, and then they came out back to back. And 0:31:53.120 --> 0:31:55.000 I've mentioned this, I will not lie. 0:31:55.120 --> 0:31:57.920 I honestly thought that every movie made a hundred million dollars, 0:31:58.080 --> 0:32:03.840 Like I just of focusing on the work, doing my job, 0:32:04.640 --> 0:32:07.800 being a good student. But I didn't have that ability 0:32:07.840 --> 0:32:09.920 to look at a script and think like, people are 0:32:09.920 --> 0:32:12.760 gonna love this or this is gonna be a. 0:32:12.920 --> 0:32:15.520 Hit, And well, if you just stuck with movies and 0:32:15.520 --> 0:32:17.600 had an American in the title, you were doing fine. 0:32:19.040 --> 0:32:19.240 Then. 0:32:19.520 --> 0:32:22.560 And then I put that in my writer in my Deal, 0:32:22.640 --> 0:32:25.120 my mother, only. 0:32:27.480 --> 0:32:32.720 American in the title. Did you have any reservations about 0:32:32.760 --> 0:32:36.000 working on something that was like so obviously pushing the 0:32:36.160 --> 0:32:37.200 envelope at the time. 0:32:37.440 --> 0:32:41.880 On American Beauty, well both of both. Oh well, but 0:32:41.920 --> 0:32:46.400 American Pie was like the sweet Sweater sets. Yeah, you 0:32:46.520 --> 0:32:50.160 were remember them asking me if I sang towards the 0:32:50.240 --> 0:32:51.720 end of the audition I was like, yeah, I was 0:32:51.760 --> 0:32:54.560 in the choir for three years, you know, middle school. 0:32:54.960 --> 0:33:01.760 Like great, that's good, and you're doing your oppression of yourself. 0:33:02.640 --> 0:33:06.240 True, I'm not really a singer, but I do remember 0:33:06.320 --> 0:33:08.760 going into the studio with Chris and like working on 0:33:08.840 --> 0:33:12.000 this song and it's funny because I love it, but like, man, 0:33:12.080 --> 0:33:18.240 when I hear that song, I'm like And then in Beauty, 0:33:18.280 --> 0:33:20.680 I was pretty much like living it to a certain extent, 0:33:20.840 --> 0:33:24.560 which I finally talked about recently. So that was kind 0:33:24.560 --> 0:33:28.640 of like a no brainer. Yeah, No, definitely wasn't like 0:33:28.800 --> 0:33:32.840 this is tawdry. I was like, oh, it's different. 0:33:33.440 --> 0:33:35.480 Are you writing a memoir? You said You've been writing 0:33:35.520 --> 0:33:36.200 about this a lot. 0:33:36.680 --> 0:33:37.000 It did. 0:33:37.240 --> 0:33:39.920 Yeah, it's called The Great Piece. It came out in 0:33:40.200 --> 0:33:43.800 twenty twenty one, and I finally was like, here's my 0:33:44.000 --> 0:33:46.680 side of the story. So I was because for a 0:33:46.800 --> 0:33:50.000 long time I was caught in this place of I 0:33:50.040 --> 0:33:53.040 mean especially back then too, like doing press for American Pie, 0:33:53.120 --> 0:33:54.880 and I was always trying to come up with like 0:33:55.000 --> 0:33:58.800 the one liner and make it sound great. And I 0:33:59.240 --> 0:34:02.640 finally was a well to just you know, reveal that again. 0:34:02.960 --> 0:34:05.200 It saved me in a lot of respects, and I 0:34:05.360 --> 0:34:10.160 wasn't necessarily. I mean, I did a thing with Jason 0:34:10.280 --> 0:34:12.240 and his wife Jenny, it's called dinner in a movie, 0:34:13.040 --> 0:34:16.040 And I went on and we with Alison Hannigan and 0:34:16.080 --> 0:34:18.960 we watched American Pie and talked about it again, and 0:34:19.120 --> 0:34:24.560 I just didn't. I didn't what is it like relate 0:34:24.680 --> 0:34:26.239 with them in the way that I think a lot 0:34:26.320 --> 0:34:29.239 of them were. So I was just living very much 0:34:29.320 --> 0:34:32.360 in like a different space. So I missed out on 0:34:32.440 --> 0:34:35.520 a lot of that, like camaraderie and friendship or just 0:34:35.680 --> 0:34:38.040 understanding what we were making. I would kind of like 0:34:38.120 --> 0:34:40.520 go in do my job. Even on American Beauty. I 0:34:40.640 --> 0:34:44.400 remember thinking one day on set, I'm literally I'm so 0:34:44.640 --> 0:34:47.160 grateful to have a job and everyone's so nice, Like 0:34:47.239 --> 0:34:47.640 it was that. 0:34:47.760 --> 0:34:51.319 Simple, right, Yeah, do you mind sharing what was going 0:34:51.360 --> 0:34:53.000 on with you in your personal life? I have not 0:34:53.080 --> 0:34:55.120 read the memoir. I'm going to read it now, but 0:34:55.840 --> 0:34:58.480 just a lot of, you. 0:34:58.560 --> 0:35:02.359 Know, things that I think through childhood led me into 0:35:02.560 --> 0:35:08.960 feeling very insecure and abandoned, and I ended like a 0:35:09.080 --> 0:35:14.960 lot of really dark relationships, especially by the time I 0:35:15.239 --> 0:35:20.719 was right before working on American Pie, and so I 0:35:20.840 --> 0:35:23.040 was living with someone who was a lot older than me. 0:35:23.280 --> 0:35:26.800 It was like taking me to school, started doing a 0:35:26.880 --> 0:35:30.320 lot of like different drugs, and so playing someone like 0:35:30.440 --> 0:35:33.960 Heather was completely opposite to what I was living. It 0:35:34.080 --> 0:35:38.880 became very like abusive and very like sexually abusive. So 0:35:40.560 --> 0:35:43.160 I think that's why I had no, you know, qualms 0:35:43.320 --> 0:35:46.600 with relating to Angela. I was sort of used to. 0:35:46.960 --> 0:35:49.200 It's interesting too, not to get like dark round going 0:35:49.239 --> 0:35:52.520 met the world, but it's interesting too how I watched 0:35:52.600 --> 0:35:57.680 myself with with like especially the second episode. I'm in 0:35:58.080 --> 0:36:03.239 season three and and there's just like a comfort around that, 0:36:03.680 --> 0:36:09.520 like sexuality and showcase. I mean, some things I even 0:36:09.600 --> 0:36:12.880 worked on. I'm trying to remember right now. But my character, 0:36:13.000 --> 0:36:14.480 I have a lot of photos from that too. My 0:36:14.600 --> 0:36:17.360 character was a teenage prostitute, and I'm like, what is 0:36:17.560 --> 0:36:22.600 append around? Like, you know some of these things are 0:36:22.760 --> 0:36:26.719 it being kind of normal back then? Like that's a 0:36:26.800 --> 0:36:30.840 whole other conversation, especially like the nineties, like being sexualized 0:36:30.920 --> 0:36:33.800 young Oh yeah yeah, And I was like, oh I 0:36:33.880 --> 0:36:37.399 was so easily can just send those things. But it's interesting. 0:36:39.680 --> 0:36:39.960 Memoir. 0:36:42.360 --> 0:36:44.960 It's heavy. I appreciate it, but it's more about like 0:36:45.400 --> 0:36:49.000 it's been really rewarding for not just me but being 0:36:49.040 --> 0:36:52.120 able to help a lot of people, you know, just 0:36:52.200 --> 0:36:54.200 by talking about these things, because I think I felt 0:36:54.360 --> 0:36:57.000 like I needed to have it all wrapped up in 0:36:57.080 --> 0:37:01.000 a bow and be putting back then and for a 0:37:01.080 --> 0:37:03.279 long time after that, and I was sort of done 0:37:03.880 --> 0:37:06.600 playing that roles. Yeah, this is yeah, because I feel 0:37:06.600 --> 0:37:08.640 like it does. It's a lot more of a service 0:37:08.840 --> 0:37:12.359 just kind of being honest and talking about it and yeah, 0:37:12.800 --> 0:37:16.359 talking about how those things kind of can unfold. Yeah, 0:37:16.719 --> 0:37:20.919 writer and I have talked about how much like those 0:37:21.040 --> 0:37:23.520 that feeling in your twenties where you just feel like 0:37:23.640 --> 0:37:25.800 you're supposed to be good at all the things, like 0:37:25.920 --> 0:37:28.319 I'm finally here, this is the adulthood I have been 0:37:28.360 --> 0:37:31.640 waiting for and looking around and somehow feeling like everyone 0:37:31.760 --> 0:37:33.560 else knows how to do everything? 0:37:33.680 --> 0:37:37.360 Why do I not know how to do anything? And 0:37:37.480 --> 0:37:42.279 then you realize like no one, no one knew how 0:37:42.400 --> 0:37:45.200 to do anything. Everyone was figuring it out, but no 0:37:45.320 --> 0:37:47.439 one was talking about the fact that no one knew 0:37:47.480 --> 0:37:49.840 what they were doing exactly. 0:37:49.960 --> 0:37:51.480 So now imposter syndrome. 0:37:52.600 --> 0:37:55.799 Yeah, but the adults too, I mean everybody every week. 0:37:56.560 --> 0:37:58.080 The thing, Yeah, the thing we talked about is as 0:37:58.320 --> 0:38:00.279 especially as child actors, is you assume at all the 0:38:00.280 --> 0:38:03.160 adults around you know exactly what's going on, and you're 0:38:03.200 --> 0:38:03.880 following their. 0:38:03.960 --> 0:38:06.359 Days, say, is right, interest yep, And that's the way 0:38:06.400 --> 0:38:06.840 it's got to go. 0:38:07.000 --> 0:38:08.839 And then you become an adult and you're like, I'm 0:38:08.880 --> 0:38:10.759 still figuring this out. I don't know what the hell's 0:38:10.800 --> 0:38:14.040 going on. So it's yeah, it's very interesting to see 0:38:14.080 --> 0:38:16.720 how just the idea that somebody's older than you obviously 0:38:16.840 --> 0:38:17.760 means they have it together. 0:38:17.960 --> 0:38:21.080 It's like, no, that's not the case. So yeah, no, 0:38:21.160 --> 0:38:21.640 it's funny. 0:38:21.880 --> 0:38:25.719 I still feel like that's sometimes I'm like, they have 0:38:25.800 --> 0:38:30.400 it so together. But yes, I mean it's kind of 0:38:30.520 --> 0:38:38.280 comforting in a way hearing this because I remember vividly younger, 0:38:38.600 --> 0:38:41.960 thinking that I think it was when you turned eighteen 0:38:42.120 --> 0:38:45.080 I had this concept or was it twenty one? I 0:38:45.160 --> 0:38:48.960 had this concept that like, when that happened, you just 0:38:49.160 --> 0:38:50.560 knew everything. 0:38:50.440 --> 0:38:51.800 Right, is you get a download? 0:38:51.880 --> 0:38:54.480 Yeah, you get a magical pill, you know everything going on? 0:38:54.640 --> 0:38:55.240 Yeah exactly. 0:38:55.400 --> 0:38:57.600 And then that happened and I was like, oh, gosh, 0:38:58.560 --> 0:38:59.520 I don't know anything. 0:38:59.440 --> 0:39:02.799 Yeah exactly, And I think, you know, strangely, I think 0:39:02.840 --> 0:39:06.560 it's actually probably worse for kids now because social media 0:39:07.239 --> 0:39:10.400 makes it where everybody's got this incredible life look at 0:39:10.400 --> 0:39:12.120 all these pictures, when really nobody does. 0:39:12.160 --> 0:39:13.759 It's all lies. The whole thing is lies. 0:39:14.360 --> 0:39:17.440 So it's just, uh, yeah, I couldn't imagine going through 0:39:17.800 --> 0:39:19.799 I mean, what we all went through was tough enough, 0:39:19.880 --> 0:39:22.480 but now doing it where everybody is in. 0:39:22.480 --> 0:39:24.360 The public eye, it just seems like it would be 0:39:24.360 --> 0:39:25.200 such a daunting task. 0:39:25.520 --> 0:39:27.799 And I'm sure you've gotten this question before, but I mean, 0:39:27.840 --> 0:39:31.440 can you imagine working on the show with God. 0:39:31.760 --> 0:39:35.800 Oh, God be too horrible? God, no, be awful. I 0:39:35.800 --> 0:39:36.560 couldn't imagine. 0:39:36.680 --> 0:39:43.000 No, Yeah, there was something nice about about that. Yeah, 0:39:43.200 --> 0:39:47.200 I mean a lot of things, not feeling that pressure. 0:39:47.320 --> 0:39:50.960 I mean I also remember like being new to LA 0:39:51.440 --> 0:39:54.480 or just like new to the business, and you know, 0:39:54.520 --> 0:39:56.080 you'd go to the grocery store and you're in the 0:39:56.160 --> 0:39:58.400 checkout out and they're the magazines, right, like that was 0:39:58.480 --> 0:40:03.279 our information, and I I remember thinking all of that 0:40:03.600 --> 0:40:07.080 was real, like somebody, and then it wasn't until like 0:40:07.960 --> 0:40:11.040 more experience in the industry, and then being there was 0:40:11.120 --> 0:40:13.759 one interview I gave that I swear it felt like 0:40:14.320 --> 0:40:17.600 they must have just mixed up the pages completely because 0:40:17.600 --> 0:40:20.480 I was reading it and like in bold there were quotes. 0:40:20.480 --> 0:40:22.480 I was like, I never even said that, like not 0:40:22.600 --> 0:40:28.319 even blows to saying yeah, And I realized, yeah, they 0:40:28.360 --> 0:40:33.239 could be something like sex is like uh, it was 0:40:33.360 --> 0:40:37.279 something like along the lines of like once you do 0:40:37.440 --> 0:40:41.200 it more, you get also just like what like it 0:40:41.320 --> 0:40:44.320 wasn't even the room for these questions but I and 0:40:44.400 --> 0:40:48.120 then I realized like, oh, none of that is true. 0:40:48.360 --> 0:40:51.160 But I had this concept that like if it was 0:40:51.280 --> 0:40:54.400 there and it were on the page and that was 0:40:54.440 --> 0:40:56.520 an interview, like that was word for word what the 0:40:56.600 --> 0:41:01.279 person said, I had no idea that it was constructed 0:41:01.480 --> 0:41:03.600 or like manipulated in that sense. 0:41:03.920 --> 0:41:08.040 Right, right, So American Beauty is one of those. It's 0:41:09.280 --> 0:41:11.080 one of my favorite examples in my own life of 0:41:12.520 --> 0:41:16.120 seeing the difference in perception of a project while it's 0:41:16.160 --> 0:41:19.480 being made versus when it comes out. Because we were 0:41:19.840 --> 0:41:24.560 we were shooting boys still and an old studio teacher 0:41:24.640 --> 0:41:27.320 came who I had worked with when I was like 0:41:27.400 --> 0:41:29.839 eleven or twelve and had become friends with my mom, 0:41:30.600 --> 0:41:33.560 and she came to the set to visit my mom, 0:41:33.600 --> 0:41:35.080 and we were hanging out talking and we're like, oh, 0:41:35.120 --> 0:41:36.759 so what are you working on And she's like, ough, 0:41:37.280 --> 0:41:38.239 this awful movie. 0:41:39.440 --> 0:41:40.480 It is so weird. 0:41:41.040 --> 0:41:42.560 I don't and I don't know if she was the 0:41:42.680 --> 0:41:44.279 studio teacher or she was just there for a couple 0:41:44.320 --> 0:41:44.960 of days, but she was. 0:41:45.000 --> 0:41:48.160 Like, it's Kevin Spacey and I don't know. 0:41:48.280 --> 0:41:50.520 It's like it's trying to be funny, but it's just 0:41:50.719 --> 0:41:51.800 it doesn't make any sense. 0:41:52.040 --> 0:41:54.680 And she like gave us the worst elevator pitch for 0:41:54.800 --> 0:41:57.960 this movie that we were like, wow, it's because but 0:41:58.040 --> 0:41:59.680 it's like a big movie and she's like, yeah, it's 0:41:59.719 --> 0:42:02.480 got actors, but it's gonna be so bad. There's no 0:42:02.600 --> 0:42:05.279 they're just gonna bear. And we like so then when 0:42:05.400 --> 0:42:08.279 the movie came out, it was like that's the movie she. 0:42:08.360 --> 0:42:08.759 Was talking to. 0:42:08.840 --> 0:42:10.880 I was like, wow, you know, so you just never know, 0:42:11.040 --> 0:42:13.200 Like so here was a crew member, maybe only there 0:42:13.239 --> 0:42:14.560 for a day or two, but she was reading the 0:42:14.600 --> 0:42:16.080 script and like knew the movie and was. 0:42:16.120 --> 0:42:18.320 Like, this is a disaster. There's no way this is 0:42:18.360 --> 0:42:19.279 gonna be That. 0:42:19.360 --> 0:42:21.680 Is so fascinating awesome. 0:42:22.080 --> 0:42:23.719 Yeah, but it's true, right, I mean half the time 0:42:23.760 --> 0:42:25.799 we don't know, Like even when we're acting in a movie, 0:42:25.840 --> 0:42:27.400 we're like, is this gonna be any good or is 0:42:27.440 --> 0:42:31.120 this gonna have any cultural value? And then something like 0:42:31.160 --> 0:42:34.239 that happens, And so what was the transition for you? Like, 0:42:34.320 --> 0:42:36.040 because you have these two movies come out back to 0:42:36.160 --> 0:42:39.440 back and before that you had sort of been regular 0:42:39.520 --> 0:42:43.560 actor just doing the job, and now you're suddenly a star. 0:42:44.200 --> 0:42:45.200 Yeah, it was really weird. 0:42:45.280 --> 0:42:48.480 I remember, well, I wasn't able to go to the 0:42:48.560 --> 0:42:49.839 premiere for American Pie. 0:42:50.280 --> 0:42:53.480 I was working on a film called Sugar and Spice 0:42:53.520 --> 0:42:55.799 at the time in Dallas, and. 0:42:56.480 --> 0:42:59.640 We had like I love that movie, by the way, 0:43:00.360 --> 0:43:02.160 for that movie, I wanted it so bad. 0:43:03.520 --> 0:43:06.719 Amazing how you went in I want I read. 0:43:06.760 --> 0:43:08.680 I read that script and I was like, this is great. 0:43:09.560 --> 0:43:11.680 It was originally do you remember it was originally called 0:43:11.719 --> 0:43:13.319 Sugar and Spice and Semi Automatics. 0:43:13.520 --> 0:43:16.400 Yes, exactly, Like I did change the title. 0:43:17.840 --> 0:43:20.920 But I mean that was awesome too. Working with Francine McDougal, 0:43:21.000 --> 0:43:27.920 female director, that was great. But I remember we had 0:43:27.960 --> 0:43:30.160 a football scene and so there were a lot of 0:43:31.280 --> 0:43:37.919 extras because a I didn't exist. Yeah, there were real 0:43:38.000 --> 0:43:45.760 people there, and I started hearing people yelling Heather choir chick, 0:43:46.120 --> 0:43:48.800 and I was like, oh, just going on you know, 0:43:49.640 --> 0:43:53.040 and then I remember people asking me for a photo. 0:43:52.800 --> 0:43:55.320 With me, and I was like, this is so weird, 0:43:55.520 --> 0:43:58.920 and it made me feel it just was really strange, 0:43:58.960 --> 0:43:59.480 and it made. 0:43:59.320 --> 0:44:01.560 Me feel uncomfort ball because I felt like I'm no, 0:44:02.480 --> 0:44:06.520 I'm no better, like different than you. And so that 0:44:06.680 --> 0:44:09.520 was kind of like the beginnings of it. And that 0:44:09.760 --> 0:44:13.080 was that was in the summer, late summer. I remember 0:44:13.160 --> 0:44:16.400 coming back to la after that and going to the 0:44:16.440 --> 0:44:23.480 American Beauty premiere and then everybody kind of saying congratulations, 0:44:23.560 --> 0:44:27.239 like this is amazing, and I just remember not being 0:44:27.360 --> 0:44:31.680 able to understand that or digest it, because again I 0:44:31.960 --> 0:44:35.080 just I was like thank you, like I just kind 0:44:35.120 --> 0:44:39.600 of what that meant, you know, and people were trying 0:44:39.640 --> 0:44:41.560 to kind of like get my attention into that, like 0:44:41.640 --> 0:44:44.560 this is so great, congratulations and I was like cool, thanks, 0:44:45.160 --> 0:44:49.319 you know, happy to be a part of it. And yeah, 0:44:49.440 --> 0:44:54.360 then it kind of became, I guess, the norm of 0:44:54.640 --> 0:44:59.759 like doing photo shoots and press and traveling and things 0:44:59.840 --> 0:45:03.640 like that. I do remember, though, having kind of like 0:45:04.760 --> 0:45:07.800 a midlife crisis in my early twenties after that, because 0:45:08.080 --> 0:45:11.000 I hadn't gone to college and there were a lot 0:45:11.080 --> 0:45:14.480 of things like you know, when I was younger, I 0:45:15.160 --> 0:45:18.400 wanted to be an architect. I chose medical research for 0:45:18.560 --> 0:45:23.000 my career. Day at school, I ever thought of like acting, 0:45:23.239 --> 0:45:28.719 and so I was like in this phase of you know, oh, 0:45:28.920 --> 0:45:31.319 I can go to UCLA. I looked into it. They 0:45:31.360 --> 0:45:32.719 were going to let me go like the first two 0:45:32.840 --> 0:45:36.160 years as an extension student, but then I'd have full 0:45:36.239 --> 0:45:39.640 time the last two and I kind of just chose 0:45:40.160 --> 0:45:45.200 at that moment that I chose, I guess my career 0:45:45.360 --> 0:45:49.719 because I felt like I could be in any you know, 0:45:50.200 --> 0:45:55.080 sitting to learn. I didn't have to necessarily be there. 0:45:55.480 --> 0:45:57.640 But yeah, it was like a hard time for me 0:45:57.719 --> 0:46:00.279 because I kind of felt like I didn't have an 0:46:00.360 --> 0:46:04.120 identity because I was Yeah, I remember it was sort 0:46:04.160 --> 0:46:09.360 of at that moment feeling like there's the there's this 0:46:09.600 --> 0:46:12.880 mina and then there's like the real mina, right, And 0:46:12.960 --> 0:46:15.840 I had to kind of like come to terms with 0:46:16.040 --> 0:46:19.880 that or or learn how to navigate that because everything 0:46:20.120 --> 0:46:23.880 was It just was very strange for me to be 0:46:24.000 --> 0:46:30.120 like recognized and because I never got into this industry 0:46:30.320 --> 0:46:33.040 for that reason, so weird. 0:46:33.760 --> 0:46:39.080 Yeah, yeah, do you remember any specific directing or working 0:46:39.200 --> 0:46:42.480 with Alan Ball for American Beauty, like you do you 0:46:42.520 --> 0:46:44.239 remember that experience. 0:46:44.719 --> 0:46:46.960 Yeah, I mean I remember working with everyone. I remember 0:46:47.040 --> 0:46:49.360 working a lot with Sam and having a lot of 0:46:49.480 --> 0:46:55.040 rehearsal us even working on scenes that didn't make it 0:46:55.160 --> 0:46:59.880 into the film. I felt, I felt like I was 0:47:00.320 --> 0:47:04.840 being very uh, I was given this really great gift 0:47:05.000 --> 0:47:09.200 and sort of spoiled in a sense because we did 0:47:09.320 --> 0:47:14.200 so much rehearsal and it was so helpful awesome. I mean, 0:47:14.320 --> 0:47:19.200 this sort of also feels like a time for the 0:47:19.280 --> 0:47:23.520 most part gone. I mean, I've gone films where it's 0:47:23.880 --> 0:47:26.480 like you're just so in and out and you don't 0:47:26.600 --> 0:47:31.200 have that process anymore, and so I'm really grateful that 0:47:31.320 --> 0:47:35.120 I had that then. But yeah, I just I remember, 0:47:36.239 --> 0:47:40.040 I mean, because again I didn't like hang out with 0:47:40.360 --> 0:47:44.040 people then. It was like so much in survival mode 0:47:44.120 --> 0:47:46.760 and like surviving the horror of like my real life 0:47:46.840 --> 0:47:50.800 that And I think it also was coming from a 0:47:50.840 --> 0:47:53.239 place of just never feeling good enough. So I just 0:47:53.360 --> 0:47:56.239 do my work and I kind of like disappear. I 0:47:56.320 --> 0:47:58.600 was always like wanting to kind of like be back here, 0:47:58.719 --> 0:48:04.360 and and but when I was there, I do remember 0:48:05.200 --> 0:48:11.440 just feeling so cared for by Nam, particularly because you know, 0:48:11.520 --> 0:48:16.759 and it was so necessary. But yeah, yeah, there was 0:48:16.800 --> 0:48:20.400 a lot of really wonderful things, a lot of fun things, 0:48:22.560 --> 0:48:24.520 but sort of it just all kind of feels like 0:48:24.640 --> 0:48:28.640 a I don't know, it was like so much happening 0:48:28.719 --> 0:48:34.080 that I needed to eventually learn how to pick up on. 0:48:35.000 --> 0:48:35.239 Yeah. 0:48:35.760 --> 0:48:38.799 Yeah, I talked about even like there were so many 0:48:38.840 --> 0:48:42.040 moments where I felt like my life was happening for me, 0:48:42.239 --> 0:48:45.279 and it took me a while to catch up to that. Yeah. 0:48:46.560 --> 0:48:48.000 Do you think it's a movie that could be made 0:48:48.040 --> 0:48:50.840 now in twenty twenty five, That's. 0:48:50.719 --> 0:48:53.680 A great question. I mean, I don't see why not. 0:48:54.600 --> 0:48:57.720 I feel like that's what's so wonderful about the film 0:48:58.040 --> 0:49:02.919 is that, I mean there's certain topic and subject matter 0:49:03.120 --> 0:49:07.560 that I feel like is still continuous, very present. The 0:49:07.840 --> 0:49:14.640 yes and no, Yeah, yes and no depends on you 0:49:14.719 --> 0:49:18.320 know what exactly I think you're analyzing, because it also 0:49:18.719 --> 0:49:21.800 was I think a big part of it a certain 0:49:22.040 --> 0:49:26.040 place and time, there's a certain there's a certain amount 0:49:26.080 --> 0:49:28.200 of subject matter that yes, I think could and then 0:49:28.200 --> 0:49:33.400 there's a certain subject matter that I think. It was 0:49:34.000 --> 0:49:39.480 a perfect showcase in conversation around like what is continuously 0:49:39.560 --> 0:49:41.520 hidden but like that still exists too, So. 0:49:41.800 --> 0:49:45.799 Yeah, yeah, I'm just curious because you've had such an 0:49:46.000 --> 0:49:49.520 interesting career and some of the projects are so different 0:49:49.600 --> 0:49:52.560 from each other. Is there one that you're really proud of? 0:49:52.719 --> 0:49:54.080 I mean, I know you're probably proud of a lot 0:49:54.120 --> 0:49:55.640 of them, but is there one that really stands out 0:49:55.680 --> 0:49:55.800 for you? 0:49:56.719 --> 0:49:59.560 Gosh, I'm so bad with these questions because like they 0:49:59.600 --> 0:50:07.319 don't something to me in a different way. I mean, yes, 0:50:07.680 --> 0:50:09.560 and I'm proud of all of it, but it all 0:50:10.080 --> 0:50:14.839 it's different for me because as I've gotten older, I've 0:50:15.680 --> 0:50:19.040 felt more and become more connected to all of it, 0:50:19.239 --> 0:50:24.120 and that's really changed it for me. I think a 0:50:24.200 --> 0:50:27.520 lot about well, I have things that I've done that 0:50:27.640 --> 0:50:32.600 haven't come out yet. I did a film called Vampires 0:50:32.640 --> 0:50:35.960 of the Velvet Lounge where it was just a lot 0:50:36.120 --> 0:50:40.320 of fun, and that's been in post. I did a 0:50:40.400 --> 0:50:43.120 film called All You Need Is Blood and that was 0:50:43.360 --> 0:50:45.960 really really cool and exciting. I think that one's on 0:50:46.239 --> 0:50:53.280 Keino Quino movies. I mean, they've all been like different 0:50:53.360 --> 0:50:55.920 for me. I just finished a project called Death of 0:50:56.000 --> 0:50:59.000 a Brewer. It's based on a book called Beer Money, 0:50:59.080 --> 0:51:02.960 and I got to play a woman of temperance and 0:51:03.080 --> 0:51:05.200 it's period and never done anything like that. 0:51:06.400 --> 0:51:06.919 That's cool. 0:51:07.000 --> 0:51:10.200 Yeah, yeah, so they're all and our crew was like, 0:51:11.040 --> 0:51:12.439 I just didn't want to leave. 0:51:12.840 --> 0:51:18.400 Everyone was so lovely and our cast and yeah, so 0:51:18.560 --> 0:51:22.719 it's it's it depends on like what it is. I mean, 0:51:22.760 --> 0:51:25.920 I think about the place that I've been in and 0:51:26.360 --> 0:51:28.520 being able to appreciate it. I feel like a lot 0:51:28.560 --> 0:51:34.439 of that came for me a bit later, of course. 0:51:35.880 --> 0:51:38.280 I mean that to me that I was so happy 0:51:38.440 --> 0:51:41.920 seeing that as like it was like going down and 0:51:42.000 --> 0:51:44.719 I didn't know if they'd listen anything of like the commercials, 0:51:44.760 --> 0:51:46.960 but it's literally like the first thing on my IMDb. 0:51:47.480 --> 0:51:51.640 It's so awesome not it? To me, that's like really 0:51:51.719 --> 0:51:53.200 really beautiful and really special. 0:51:55.400 --> 0:51:55.880 I love that. 0:51:56.080 --> 0:51:58.560 We ask a lot of our guests this question, were 0:51:58.640 --> 0:52:02.520 there any roles you auditioned for and almost got that 0:52:02.719 --> 0:52:04.759 still haunt you? Like the minute you mentioned sugar and 0:52:04.800 --> 0:52:07.320 spice for me? And I was like, is there anything 0:52:07.400 --> 0:52:08.040 you auditioned for? 0:52:08.880 --> 0:52:09.040 Uh? 0:52:09.880 --> 0:52:14.480 Yes, you're gonna put me on the hot seat tell 0:52:14.560 --> 0:52:22.000 the story. Yes, I mean the one that I auditioned 0:52:22.040 --> 0:52:29.600 for several times, I tested for and was communicated to 0:52:30.000 --> 0:52:34.640 that it would be mine was Spiderman. 0:52:35.360 --> 0:52:38.200 Oh and they gave it to Toby maguire. 0:52:39.560 --> 0:52:42.440 And how did he do that to you? 0:52:45.520 --> 0:52:49.359 Yeah? But you know but again, like I think that's 0:52:51.160 --> 0:52:58.239 that's what like allows for so much growth and have 0:52:58.440 --> 0:53:03.839 strength in this industry. Is like, I mean, I've even 0:53:03.880 --> 0:53:07.480 had these moments with now I've been working more in 0:53:07.600 --> 0:53:11.080 like development and like pitching, and it's like people can 0:53:11.200 --> 0:53:13.520 kind of come at you a certain way like yeah, 0:53:14.120 --> 0:53:14.600 and you're like. 0:53:15.840 --> 0:53:21.920 We're like no, but I thought I thought we're just 0:53:22.040 --> 0:53:24.120 gonna something. Yeah, I think it. 0:53:24.320 --> 0:53:26.440 I mean, those are those are the moments that like 0:53:26.560 --> 0:53:30.080 we all have. I mean you talked about like with 0:53:30.320 --> 0:53:32.440 Sugar and Space too. It's like those are the moments 0:53:32.480 --> 0:53:34.680 that you have and you're just like yeah, but you 0:53:34.800 --> 0:53:37.839 know what, like I still see this and I still 0:53:37.920 --> 0:53:41.440 love this, and it's not you know, it allows you, 0:53:41.640 --> 0:53:44.399 I think, to build like new. 0:53:44.400 --> 0:53:48.840 Muscles that are so important because not. 0:53:49.840 --> 0:53:52.960 Like that all right exactly. It's not just like here 0:53:53.040 --> 0:53:57.000 you go, here you go, Oh you want this, Okay, you. 0:53:57.040 --> 0:53:59.920 Got to really work for it, you know. And I 0:54:00.480 --> 0:54:04.000 and I'm grateful for that because it allows me to 0:54:04.160 --> 0:54:10.440 just have a completely new perspective that I really try 0:54:10.520 --> 0:54:12.640 to stay neutral with. Like it just wasn't meant in 0:54:12.800 --> 0:54:18.000 some way other things that and I'm you know, and 0:54:18.280 --> 0:54:20.640 you're able to see that like in the long run, 0:54:20.760 --> 0:54:23.719 like oh, well, life brought me here and I was 0:54:23.840 --> 0:54:25.640 needed here versus there. 0:54:26.200 --> 0:54:29.200 Right in this industry, it's so hard compared to like 0:54:29.400 --> 0:54:33.239 almost anything else though, in that those opportunities when they're 0:54:33.239 --> 0:54:36.840 presented to you are literally life changing, right, like in 0:54:37.000 --> 0:54:39.279 terms of like I mean when you audition for a 0:54:39.320 --> 0:54:41.279 TV shoot network for a show, they make you sign 0:54:41.320 --> 0:54:42.760 a six year contract. 0:54:42.360 --> 0:54:44.960 And you're literally able to see, oh, this could be 0:54:45.280 --> 0:54:46.480 how much money I'm making. 0:54:46.760 --> 0:54:48.960 This could be in something like Spider Man, Like yeah, 0:54:49.160 --> 0:54:51.600 like that's a three picture thing. I mean, that's like 0:54:52.200 --> 0:54:53.759 and so it's so hard in the. 0:54:53.760 --> 0:54:57.359 Moment because you're like, I don't want to invest too 0:54:57.400 --> 0:54:59.279 much in this, but you can't help it. 0:54:59.360 --> 0:55:01.400 Because it's like, but that would change my life in 0:55:01.480 --> 0:55:03.880 a way that probably you want at that moment. You know, 0:55:04.480 --> 0:55:07.359 it's really hard to see how to have any sense 0:55:07.400 --> 0:55:10.240 of reality, you know, especially when you're younger. 0:55:10.800 --> 0:55:13.640 Yeah, yeah, no, for sure, I think a lot, Like 0:55:13.760 --> 0:55:16.359 for me now because I have a son and he's 0:55:16.960 --> 0:55:21.560 four and a half, and so many times like if 0:55:21.600 --> 0:55:23.719 I even try to go to that place. Then I 0:55:24.160 --> 0:55:26.640 look back and I understand, like, but if this didn't 0:55:26.719 --> 0:55:30.200 happen and that didn't happen, Yeah, it happened. Like I 0:55:30.360 --> 0:55:34.480 never would have had my son right in the way 0:55:34.560 --> 0:55:37.440 that I do. I wouldn't you know, life would have 0:55:37.520 --> 0:55:39.440 kind of maybe taken me over here. I wouldn't have 0:55:39.520 --> 0:55:43.360 met that person. So yeah, I always try. 0:55:43.239 --> 0:55:46.600 To like rein it in, yeah, we're here for a reason. 0:55:46.640 --> 0:55:48.080 We're here for a reason, yeah exactly. 0:55:48.520 --> 0:55:53.360 Yeah, and like and we're here as ourselves individual for 0:55:53.520 --> 0:55:56.279 that person, you know. And I think that's sort of 0:55:56.360 --> 0:56:00.520 like what we were touching upon earlier, like feeling like, 0:56:00.600 --> 0:56:02.520 oh I have to be twenty and like be perfect 0:56:02.600 --> 0:56:05.680 and know it all. Like we don't have that, and 0:56:05.760 --> 0:56:10.600 that's I mean, it's still happening. I think even when 0:56:10.600 --> 0:56:13.880 you brought up social media, like even to a worser extent, 0:56:15.640 --> 0:56:21.200 we're really missing that we're all individual in adding our 0:56:21.320 --> 0:56:25.440 own thing to it. We don't have to be this 0:56:26.080 --> 0:56:30.759 like everything, not everything has to be that. Yeah. So 0:56:30.960 --> 0:56:37.279 I find a lot of like comfort in that and 0:56:37.440 --> 0:56:41.520 allowing myself to feel that way and you know, just 0:56:42.160 --> 0:56:44.480 remember that it's like this is what I have to 0:56:44.560 --> 0:56:48.719 bring to it versus someone else, and if that's meant 0:56:49.080 --> 0:56:52.120 you know, then that's great. And I've always tried to 0:56:54.120 --> 0:56:57.879 look for anything that I can learn in my own 0:56:57.960 --> 0:57:00.640 life through the work that I do, because I've seen 0:57:00.680 --> 0:57:08.720 this weird like symmetry between personal growth that I've needed 0:57:09.120 --> 0:57:11.920 and then the type of project that might come my way. 0:57:12.560 --> 0:57:15.279 We try to stay really open to that and work 0:57:15.320 --> 0:57:15.520 with it. 0:57:29.280 --> 0:57:31.480 I have to talk to you about American Pie five 0:57:32.000 --> 0:57:32.560 the funeral? 0:57:33.800 --> 0:57:35.880 Are you going to be in it? Is this real? 0:57:35.960 --> 0:57:36.560 Who's dead? 0:57:37.080 --> 0:57:41.720 This is so wild because everyone's been asking about it. 0:57:41.840 --> 0:57:45.680 I think it would be awesome, even like when I 0:57:45.800 --> 0:57:48.680 saw Jason and Jenny and Michelle, like we don't really 0:57:48.840 --> 0:57:52.600 know what's going on, Like there's nothing, there's nothing official 0:57:52.760 --> 0:57:56.280 but from if I can safely say, from what I know, 0:57:58.600 --> 0:58:02.520 fans have, like I think on YouTube they've even created 0:58:02.640 --> 0:58:07.840 trailers for this. I believe that this is a huge 0:58:07.920 --> 0:58:11.760 admirer of the film and franchise who has like written 0:58:11.840 --> 0:58:15.800 this script. So there's like things lingering, but there's nothing 0:58:15.880 --> 0:58:19.680 official that I know of. I think it's a great idea. 0:58:20.080 --> 0:58:21.600 I think it would have to be something like that 0:58:21.800 --> 0:58:26.800 along along those lines, and it'd be awesome to come back. 0:58:26.840 --> 0:58:30.480 I think everybody is like really wanting it, But I 0:58:30.560 --> 0:58:30.840 don't know. 0:58:31.120 --> 0:58:35.720 I don't write, you don't there's no official word. You 0:58:35.840 --> 0:58:40.320 have worked consistently throughout your entire career. How did you 0:58:40.680 --> 0:58:41.880 avoid burnout? 0:58:42.800 --> 0:58:43.800 Oh I did burn out? 0:58:43.960 --> 0:58:53.400 Okay, book, I Yeah, no, I have. 0:58:53.680 --> 0:58:56.920 I mean, it depends on what you mean by burnout. 0:58:57.000 --> 0:58:59.640 I mean I talk about a lot of like just 0:59:00.040 --> 0:59:04.240 disconnection and especially like early on, and then I got 0:59:04.360 --> 0:59:08.320 married very young. I was married at like right after 0:59:08.440 --> 0:59:16.320 American Beauty and sort of repeated this strange generational trauma 0:59:16.400 --> 0:59:21.480 pattern and played that out. But yeah, so again I 0:59:21.640 --> 0:59:25.440 was like living as like twice my age when I 0:59:25.520 --> 0:59:27.480 was twenty from like twenty five. 0:59:29.640 --> 0:59:34.760 And yeah, I mean I've definitely been. 0:59:35.040 --> 0:59:37.919 I like to say that I've lived many lives. Yeah, 0:59:38.080 --> 0:59:41.720 I've been, and then somehow I came out of it. 0:59:41.920 --> 0:59:44.320 I think I've been able to really. 0:59:45.640 --> 0:59:51.000 Navigate by being blessed with you know, the right people 0:59:51.080 --> 0:59:59.280 around me at the right time. And and yeah, I 0:59:59.360 --> 1:00:02.200 mean just how I talk a lot about how I 1:00:02.240 --> 1:00:06.160 feel like being in this industry, being an actor, being 1:00:06.240 --> 1:00:09.280 able to perform this art really saved my life to 1:00:09.360 --> 1:00:11.320 a certain extent, because it. 1:00:11.440 --> 1:00:15.080 Allowed me to process a lot of things that were 1:00:15.160 --> 1:00:15.920 so necessary. 1:00:16.400 --> 1:00:21.440 Yeah, but yeah, I mean it hasn't been easy at times, 1:00:21.600 --> 1:00:26.880 and you know, I just kind of keep I have 1:00:27.000 --> 1:00:29.120 a lot of friends that are not in the industry, 1:00:31.200 --> 1:00:36.840 so I'm able to ground myself through that and yeah, 1:00:37.480 --> 1:00:41.520 just somehow, somehow, I mean, listen, thirty years is a 1:00:41.600 --> 1:00:45.760 long time, and I feel grateful and I'm even still alive, 1:00:46.120 --> 1:00:53.520 like at certain moments, but I am. I'm very happy 1:00:53.640 --> 1:01:01.120 now because of like, throughout all that process has just 1:01:01.240 --> 1:01:05.000 given me really the perspective that I want to have, 1:01:05.360 --> 1:01:09.560 and so it's really good with all the things that 1:01:09.600 --> 1:01:11.360 I'm able to move forward with because it's just like 1:01:11.400 --> 1:01:13.800 I said, I finished that film Death of a Brewer, 1:01:13.840 --> 1:01:16.120 and it was just so it was like everything that 1:01:16.160 --> 1:01:18.320 I would have ever wanted it to be. But I 1:01:18.600 --> 1:01:21.680 think a lot of that came from me allowing myself 1:01:22.160 --> 1:01:27.120 to be that person and feel connected to everyone. And 1:01:28.600 --> 1:01:31.160 it was awesome because it was just an independent film 1:01:31.200 --> 1:01:34.080 that we were making. But again, our cast and especially 1:01:34.200 --> 1:01:37.200 our crew, it's beautiful when it lines up like that, 1:01:37.360 --> 1:01:40.760 when part of this thing and it's not about like, 1:01:42.280 --> 1:01:46.360 I don't know, any weird like hierarchy or ego, your 1:01:46.480 --> 1:01:50.120 ego that you see all the time. And in those moments, 1:01:50.200 --> 1:01:53.040 I realize, like, this is why I do what I do. 1:01:54.480 --> 1:01:56.720 You mentioned your son. If your son wanted to become 1:01:56.760 --> 1:01:59.080 an actor, would you let it? 1:02:00.600 --> 1:02:04.800 Such a great quess. I don't. I don't have him 1:02:04.880 --> 1:02:09.200 out there. He has no idea what I do. He 1:02:09.360 --> 1:02:12.400 just that I go and I work. And now he's 1:02:12.440 --> 1:02:15.040 started to say, like, I want to cut work to 1:02:16.520 --> 1:02:21.640 a town. But I've I mean, just personally, this is 1:02:21.800 --> 1:02:25.040 like how we do things. Everybody does it differently. But 1:02:25.520 --> 1:02:29.040 I really, I really care a lot about giving him 1:02:29.080 --> 1:02:33.640 the opportunity to be who he is and not me 1:02:33.840 --> 1:02:38.880 Savari's son. I want him to, you know, just develop 1:02:39.040 --> 1:02:41.200 like the life that he wants and the interest that 1:02:41.280 --> 1:02:43.880 he wants, and not have it be through me at 1:02:43.920 --> 1:02:49.960 this age. So we'll see. I mean, you know, I 1:02:50.400 --> 1:02:54.680 know that I would love him to like set it 1:02:54.800 --> 1:02:56.680 up a bit differently, like if I had gone to 1:02:56.800 --> 1:02:59.000 college or have a degree or some sort of like 1:03:00.360 --> 1:03:03.240 hmm thing to fall back on. I would want to 1:03:03.680 --> 1:03:07.160 navigate it probably a bit smarter than I did, because 1:03:07.200 --> 1:03:09.760 I think for me it was sort of I'm not 1:03:09.800 --> 1:03:13.280 gonna lie like it felt many times like this is 1:03:13.360 --> 1:03:14.320 all I know how to do. 1:03:14.720 --> 1:03:17.160 Oh yeah, I know that feeling too well, yeah. 1:03:17.040 --> 1:03:20.160 And I have to figure that out because that's just 1:03:20.320 --> 1:03:25.400 what I do. And so if I could allow him 1:03:25.560 --> 1:03:28.680 to just feel a little bit more choice in the 1:03:28.760 --> 1:03:31.680 matter than that would be great. But I remember working 1:03:31.760 --> 1:03:33.400 with I did a film called Don't Tell a Soul 1:03:33.480 --> 1:03:37.480 with Jack Grazer, and I was talking to Who's Awesome, 1:03:37.600 --> 1:03:39.840 And I was talking to his mom on the set, 1:03:40.520 --> 1:03:42.320 and I remember and getting to know her, and I 1:03:42.360 --> 1:03:45.360 remember reading an art article that she was talking about 1:03:45.680 --> 1:03:48.280 his child acting and fame and all of this stuff, 1:03:48.800 --> 1:03:54.800 and the way that she presented it to him. I'm 1:03:54.800 --> 1:03:56.880 not quoting it perfectly word for word, but she was 1:03:57.360 --> 1:04:00.680 trying to communicate to him that she was supportive of 1:04:00.760 --> 1:04:03.040 him wanting to do these things, but just remember that 1:04:03.120 --> 1:04:06.960 it should always be fun, and at the moment that 1:04:07.080 --> 1:04:11.800 it's not fun, you know, we should we should readdress that. 1:04:12.080 --> 1:04:13.760 And I just thought that that was such a great 1:04:14.200 --> 1:04:19.000 approach to it, because it's so it's so important for 1:04:19.160 --> 1:04:21.840 that to be part of it, I believe, and not, 1:04:25.040 --> 1:04:28.240 you know, I remember feeling like again I had to 1:04:28.560 --> 1:04:30.960 get a job at like fourteen or fifteen to like 1:04:31.040 --> 1:04:36.600 support my family or just the stresses of that. So yeah, 1:04:36.760 --> 1:04:39.080 I would want to just kind of be smart about 1:04:39.160 --> 1:04:43.880 things or and pay attention and create options or choice 1:04:44.160 --> 1:04:46.240 for him. But we'll say, I. 1:04:46.280 --> 1:04:47.680 Mean, will you please tell us the name of your 1:04:47.720 --> 1:04:49.600 book one more time where we can get it, tell 1:04:49.680 --> 1:04:50.240 us about some of. 1:04:50.200 --> 1:04:51.520 The projects you have coming up? 1:04:51.880 --> 1:04:52.960 Okay, ordered it? 1:04:54.800 --> 1:04:58.520 Well, it's called the Great Piece I had. I was 1:04:58.680 --> 1:05:00.680 I talk about it in the book, but I would moving, 1:05:01.280 --> 1:05:05.320 and I had everything. I had a storage unit and 1:05:05.440 --> 1:05:06.680 I was like, oh, I want to get rid of 1:05:06.760 --> 1:05:08.480 this storage unit. I don't need it anymore. 1:05:08.520 --> 1:05:11.480 And I had these bins where I kept a lot of. 1:05:13.040 --> 1:05:14.720 I have the photos. I got to go through these 1:05:14.840 --> 1:05:17.840 the photo and I had my diary, and I had 1:05:17.920 --> 1:05:20.640 this binder it was like a red you know those 1:05:20.680 --> 1:05:26.720 old school binders, three ring binder, and I had I 1:05:26.800 --> 1:05:29.360 had a typewriter, so I typed up like fifty sixty 1:05:29.480 --> 1:05:32.120 loose leaf pages and a lot of it was like poems. 1:05:32.200 --> 1:05:35.040 And that again was like an outlet for me to 1:05:35.120 --> 1:05:38.080 communicate a lot of what I was or process what 1:05:38.160 --> 1:05:41.040 I was experiencing. And I called it the Great Piece. 1:05:41.160 --> 1:05:44.280 And so when I found it. I had this moment 1:05:44.360 --> 1:05:49.000 of thinking like maybe I can publish my poetry book 1:05:49.160 --> 1:05:54.520 or I was gonna option it as like a series idea. 1:05:55.160 --> 1:05:57.760 I thought, maybe I can get this out, and I can. 1:05:57.920 --> 1:06:01.160 It can be cathartic for me, but not fully doing it. 1:06:03.600 --> 1:06:06.200 And then I had a friend sit with me and 1:06:06.280 --> 1:06:08.800 he read some of it, and he said, you should 1:06:08.960 --> 1:06:12.240 publish this as a memoir. And I remember thinking like, what, Like, 1:06:12.440 --> 1:06:14.720 first of all, I'm not even like at that age 1:06:14.800 --> 1:06:18.320 to do that. Yeah, but I thought about it, and 1:06:18.400 --> 1:06:20.280 I thought, you know what, if I'm going to if 1:06:20.280 --> 1:06:22.320 I'm going to share this at all, then I'll share it, 1:06:23.440 --> 1:06:26.200 you know, one hundred and fifty percent. And so so 1:06:26.320 --> 1:06:29.400 I titled it the Great Piece as well. 1:06:30.080 --> 1:06:31.680 I love it. And then when are some of the 1:06:31.760 --> 1:06:33.960 movies coming out that you said you had won in post? 1:06:34.440 --> 1:06:36.120 I can't wait to see these. Where can we see them? 1:06:36.320 --> 1:06:36.520 Yeah? 1:06:37.280 --> 1:06:40.040 I don't know where yet. I just know that, well, 1:06:40.120 --> 1:06:42.840 Vampires of the Velvet Lounge they were there's a lot 1:06:42.920 --> 1:06:44.400 of effects. 1:06:44.680 --> 1:06:46.480 Okay, so I believe those were. 1:06:46.560 --> 1:06:50.640 Just finished and I'm not quite sure. I did called 1:06:50.760 --> 1:06:54.920 the Ick with Joseph Kahn that we were in theaters 1:06:56.400 --> 1:07:03.160 a very limited release here a couple months ago. And yeah, 1:07:03.280 --> 1:07:05.080 I don't know like all of where. 1:07:05.080 --> 1:07:09.760 To see them, Okay, but keep an eye out. Yeah, 1:07:10.080 --> 1:07:12.400 are you on social media? Can then can people follow you? 1:07:12.760 --> 1:07:15.760 Yeah? I just I have just my name minus to 1:07:15.800 --> 1:07:19.760 Marian Instagram. When you talked about one of those burnout moments, 1:07:19.800 --> 1:07:23.040 I had this moment where I deleted my Facebook, I 1:07:23.200 --> 1:07:26.880 deleted my Twitter, I'm done. 1:07:26.720 --> 1:07:27.520 With social media. 1:07:27.880 --> 1:07:30.640 And then I was going to delete Instagram, but I 1:07:30.720 --> 1:07:35.400 forgot my password. And then one of my reps was like, 1:07:35.520 --> 1:07:40.520 can you just keep one? Like it's some I was like, okay, 1:07:40.640 --> 1:07:43.240 but I definitely was like I can't take it anymore. 1:07:43.360 --> 1:07:47.160 But yeah, I'm on Instagram and I and I like it. 1:07:47.400 --> 1:07:51.360 I like to focus on the aspect of how it 1:07:51.520 --> 1:07:53.800 like gives us the opportunity to really share, like what 1:07:53.880 --> 1:07:54.640 we're interested in. 1:07:54.880 --> 1:07:58.280 Yeah, something else being created, So so I'm on there. 1:07:58.680 --> 1:08:01.600 Okay, great. Thank you so much for spending your time 1:08:01.640 --> 1:08:04.280 with us. We have been so excited about the possibility 1:08:04.320 --> 1:08:06.360 of interviewing you since the moment you popped on our 1:08:06.400 --> 1:08:08.480 screen when we were in season two of our recap, 1:08:09.360 --> 1:08:11.080 and so thank you for finding the time to be 1:08:11.160 --> 1:08:14.080 with us. We have really enjoyed this conversation. You are 1:08:14.560 --> 1:08:18.360 truly lovely and it's been a really beautiful conversation. 1:08:18.800 --> 1:08:21.400 Thank you for having me, and thanks for just thinking 1:08:21.520 --> 1:08:24.439 of me and making this possible, waiting for me to 1:08:24.479 --> 1:08:28.400 get on. Yeah, that's like a scheduling thing, but I 1:08:28.520 --> 1:08:31.160 really appreciate. It's so nice. It's so special, like this 1:08:31.320 --> 1:08:32.040 is what it's about. 1:08:32.640 --> 1:08:39.280 Yeah, agreed, Thank you for being with us. Photos. You 1:08:39.400 --> 1:08:41.439 have our email address, and yeah, we're going to read 1:08:41.479 --> 1:08:43.160 the book. Maybe it'll maybe I'll switch it out for 1:08:43.240 --> 1:08:47.160 my next book club. Yes, thank you, Mina. It was 1:08:47.160 --> 1:08:47.640 good to see you. 1:08:47.760 --> 1:08:50.840 All right, take care bye, guys, Bye bye. 1:08:52.040 --> 1:08:54.880 Wow, man, I can't I really can't wait to read that. 1:08:55.240 --> 1:08:55.479 I know. 1:08:55.920 --> 1:08:57.960 Yeah, so ordered it up now. 1:08:58.080 --> 1:09:01.080 I have a crush on her, right, Yeah. 1:09:01.120 --> 1:09:05.160 She wouldn't. She wouldn't recognize it anyway, No crush back 1:09:05.200 --> 1:09:05.360 in the. 1:09:05.400 --> 1:09:10.400 Day, everybody, she just forgot. 1:09:11.760 --> 1:09:13.559 No she didn't. Maybe she did. 1:09:14.920 --> 1:09:18.960 She was playing it cool. That's right, exactly right, that 1:09:19.080 --> 1:09:19.479 makes sense. 1:09:20.720 --> 1:09:22.400 Thank you all for joining us for this episode of 1:09:22.439 --> 1:09:24.560 Pod Meets World. As always, you can follow us on 1:09:24.640 --> 1:09:27.400 Instagram pod Meets World Show. 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