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Speaker 1: From inside the building NRG Stadium. Mark Vandermayer, John Harris

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Speaker 1: with you for Texans All Access from the Hunday Texans

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Speaker 1: Radio Studio. Great to have you listening to the show tonight,

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Speaker 1: as we've been busy today and you're gonna hear from

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Speaker 1: a couple of Texans tonight, including but not limited to

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Speaker 1: Brandon Dunn, who is awesome, and also later on Jordan Thomas,

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Speaker 1: who is also awesome. And if you want to talk

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Speaker 1: about your funniest Texans players, they would certainly be in

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Speaker 1: the mix for the top. I don't know five at least,

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Speaker 1: right John, No doubt. I don't think there's any question

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Speaker 1: those two are. Those two are, without a doubt, like

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Speaker 1: the ones that show their their personality here. I think

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Speaker 1: one of the funniest guys in the entire team is

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Speaker 1: Bernardrick McKinney. Oh he is good, but you know he

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Speaker 1: doesn't show that. Yeah, it doesn't always show it. He

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Speaker 1: showed it on Kjack TV. He was hilarious. He's hilarious.

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Speaker 1: He's gonna want to take over KJACKTV and make it

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Speaker 1: b MACTV. It would make sense. I mean, it has

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Speaker 1: a nice ring to it, I think, And as an

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Speaker 1: executive with Excellence TV. I think that I can make

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Speaker 1: that happen. I think that's that's definitely moving the right.

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Speaker 1: But is he gonna want shirts and everything? I mean,

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Speaker 1: Kareem's so high maintan now I'm just kidding. He was.

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Speaker 1: He was wonderful with me. Beback will want shirts, He'll

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Speaker 1: he might go out and get the shirts. Kareem was

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Speaker 1: so good with the sponsor Arctic. He was so good.

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Speaker 1: He had that down. He did, he had that down.

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Speaker 1: Now here's the thing. He said, he's taking Kjack TV

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Speaker 1: to Denver. So yeah, well we'll see about that. I

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Speaker 1: do hope we have actual rights to it and you know,

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Speaker 1: legal land. Anyway, let's get to this. We're gonna begin

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Speaker 1: the show with a depth chart, deep dive into the

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Speaker 1: defensive line. We're gonna hear from Jordan Thomas talk about

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Speaker 1: that tight end crew because it is interesting. Not only

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Speaker 1: is it voluminous right now, it is eclectic and versatile.

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Speaker 1: I know some of you don't like that word, but

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Speaker 1: believe me, if you coach a football team, you want

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Speaker 1: your players to be versatile. And we'll get into some

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Speaker 1: around the league stuff in our final segment tonight. But

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Speaker 1: let's do it right now. We'll dive deep into that

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Speaker 1: D line with up depth chart as we have our

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Speaker 1: new little sound effect, and we'll be doing a lot

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Speaker 1: of these because you know we're gonna be doing a

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Speaker 1: lot of depth chart deep dives as the offseason continues

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Speaker 1: and training camp begins, and you know it, we're gonna

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Speaker 1: be doing it all right. Let's go here now, when

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Speaker 1: you talk about the D line, you talk about DJ Duddy,

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Speaker 1: who you'll hear from in a few moments here, who

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Speaker 1: really is your starting nose tackle when you're talking bass defense.

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Speaker 1: He's the guy. Now, He's not one of these behemoths.

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Speaker 1: You know, when Romeo Crenell got here, we thought, oh,

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Speaker 1: they're not gonna do with a Sean Cody type nose

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Speaker 1: tackle or an earl Mitchell and those guys did a

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Speaker 1: good job here in the Wade Phillips era. Then you

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Speaker 1: switch to Romeo Crenell and we thought they got to

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Speaker 1: get somebody really large. Right. Eventually, Will Fork was large.

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Speaker 1: He was large. They had Ryan Pickett the first year

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Speaker 1: right right, pick Grease grease, but Brandon donn is not.

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Speaker 1: He's more like I would say, if correct me, if

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Speaker 1: I'm wrong, that Wade Phillips type of nose tackle. But

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Speaker 1: I think they like operating this way because again versatility,

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Speaker 1: and it gets the job done. DJ Reader, you might

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Speaker 1: in this defense right well, he's he's versatile. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I think one of the things I find interesting about

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Speaker 1: Clowney at the other end, which they have done before.

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Speaker 1: They could put joll Heath, they put they would put

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Speaker 1: Christian Commington out there, but obviously Christians now with Dallas,

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Speaker 1: they could put Angela Blackson out of defense. They could

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Speaker 1: Reader to three technique. They can play blacks and three technique.

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Speaker 1: I have like this defensive line. Now when you have

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Speaker 1: ultimate inflexibility and versatility. So you know, hopefully that will

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Speaker 1: But because you have Doney and you have Heath, and

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Speaker 1: they all had really good I thought Blackson Jordan havings

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Speaker 1: but I thought Blackson and Donnie had really good years

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Speaker 1: and I think DJ Reader is I I agree with

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Speaker 1: JJ Watt. I think DJ Reader is, if not the

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Speaker 1: best nose tackle in the game, he's definitely up there.

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Speaker 1: I think he's in the team picture with Brandon Williams

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Speaker 1: from the Ravens. That's who he's always reminded me of,

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Speaker 1: on a little bit of a different role. So that's

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Speaker 1: why I think if you call him the best nose tackle,

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Speaker 1: that's what I'm taking to account as the fact that

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Speaker 1: he can play a lot of different spots. Okay, so

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Speaker 1: he gives you more than just that. Like Vince. Near

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Speaker 1: the end of Vince's career, he was just a he

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Speaker 1: Vince was up front. So I think Reader can do

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Speaker 1: a lot of different things. But I put Reader in

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Speaker 1: how he played, and the one game that they didn't

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Speaker 1: a great game. I think DJ's play up front completely

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Speaker 1: gives form to what the run defense will look like.

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Speaker 1: DJ doesn't play great and the run defense stink. If

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Speaker 1: that makes sense, they're directly related. When DJ plays well,

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Speaker 1: they're shutting teams down against the run. Okay, we'll get

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Speaker 1: more into our deep die, but let's dig in deep

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Speaker 1: with Brandon Dunne DJ Dunney we sometimes call him because

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Speaker 1: he's the locker room DJ is. He's still holding that down.

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Speaker 1: Is there some offseason competition? How's that going? Right? Nobody's

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Speaker 1: so you know, I might I might have to pull

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Speaker 1: Brion body Cat, who was in here a little while ago.

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Speaker 1: anybody even come to you at all and said, no, no,

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Speaker 1: I should be doing that, that should be my role

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Speaker 1: instead of you. No, I don't know. I don't know

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Speaker 1: what it is. I don't know if it's the weightlifting

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Speaker 1: DJ who needs to black music? You know. I think

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Speaker 1: I think it's more of a respect level, even from

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Speaker 1: they figured out pretty fast, right there you go. So

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Speaker 1: not that I was that worried, but you know, I mean,

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Speaker 1: while now. You've really established yourself on defensive line. Feels

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Speaker 1: like every year we see you make strides. What did

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Speaker 1: I did a lot more recovering wise. Yeah, like I

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Speaker 1: many guys are in the hot yoga class? Not too

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Speaker 1: many guys and really like five guys and it's like

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Speaker 1: go in the back corner. Yeah. The first time I

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Speaker 1: She was like, I want to let me know who's

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Speaker 1: you know, it was in our class. I'm like, please

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Speaker 1: what I'm saying, trying to in mid stretch in mid

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Speaker 1: downward dog, it's tough. Yeah, why where in there mid

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Speaker 1: I'm struggling, but I mean it was it was coming

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Speaker 1: to say, but the recovery said, I mean, it was great.

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Speaker 1: you know. And then I don't want to go over

424
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Speaker 1: all the positions right now because that's that's for another

425
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Speaker 1: show maybe. But you know, we kind of got off track.

426
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Speaker 1: It's an interesting topic. I think they have a lot

427
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Speaker 1: of options. They have to find a way to play

428
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Speaker 1: well together. Okay, back to the D line though, Watt

429
00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:33,520
Speaker 1: is pretty good, So yes, he will start, guaranteed to start,

430
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Speaker 1: guaranteed to start, all right, Angelo Blackson And by the way,

431
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Speaker 1: who's who did he play against? An AAU basketball? He's

432
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Speaker 1: a teammate of BBC Brion Body Calhoun. They're both teammates. Yeah,

433
00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:49,080
Speaker 1: they're teammates and AU basketball. Can you imagine those two together,

434
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Speaker 1: Blackson playing AAU basketball Yeah, with Brion Body Calhoun. Look,

435
00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:56,119
Speaker 1: it's here's the interesting part in that. And it's interesting

436
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Speaker 1: you brought this up because we talked with guys that

437
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Speaker 1: came in here today. We talked with Darren Fells. We

438
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Speaker 1: talked with Jordan Aikens. Yeah, interestingly enough, they both played

439
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Speaker 1: the same position but playing different sports. And how much

440
00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:14,400
Speaker 1: that factors in, how much that helps them become players

441
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Speaker 1: at a high level. I mean, Fells played basketball, Aikens

442
00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:20,840
Speaker 1: played Major League baseball, and you think, well, yeah, basketball

443
00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:23,000
Speaker 1: and baseball, they're gonna help you in football. Trust me,

444
00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:26,280
Speaker 1: having played multiple sports, all my sports helped me in

445
00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:29,040
Speaker 1: all other sports. I can't I can't wait till we

446
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Speaker 1: unveil Fells to the Houston audience. Really, because Fells is

447
00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:36,000
Speaker 1: the kind of guy that you just want to pull for.

448
00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:42,040
Speaker 1: He's outstanding. He's a professional athlete. You know, I don't

449
00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:45,080
Speaker 1: use that lightly in this case. He played basketball overseas

450
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Speaker 1: multiple locations, made a living, made a good living doing it,

451
00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:50,960
Speaker 1: but he wanted more. He wanted pro football and he

452
00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:52,600
Speaker 1: got it, and good for him. He's been in the

453
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Speaker 1: league for a while now, so he's an interesting story,

454
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Speaker 1: very useful guy, and he has become the emergency left tackle.

455
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Speaker 1: We'll talk about him in the next segment. Let finish

456
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Speaker 1: off this d line thing now, Johnny, give me some

457
00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:06,159
Speaker 1: all right, when Covington left and the done thing was

458
00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:10,280
Speaker 1: sort of in flux, and Angelo Blackson as well. Obviously

459
00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:12,600
Speaker 1: those guys are back now. But we thought, all right,

460
00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:14,399
Speaker 1: what's really gonna happen on this line? You have Carlos

461
00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:17,200
Speaker 1: Watkins coming back, You drafted Charles Amna who you know,

462
00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:19,960
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you're you're reloading the coffers. Joel

463
00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:22,160
Speaker 1: heat is still around, and you have these undrafted free

464
00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:24,480
Speaker 1: agent guys who may or may not be interesting. Yeah.

465
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Speaker 1: The I like a lot of the undrafted free agent guys.

466
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Speaker 1: I mean their names that that I've heard, and I'm

467
00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:32,960
Speaker 1: sure people will get to hear them over, you know,

468
00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:35,320
Speaker 1: training camp, when we're doing radio shows and such. But

469
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Speaker 1: a guy like Albert Huggins comes from Clemson, and I

470
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Speaker 1: know you're never gonna waited saying Albert Huggins like he

471
00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:44,679
Speaker 1: pumps in all these great evens. The lineman we drafted

472
00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:47,199
Speaker 1: a signed a backup. This guy really wouldn't have been

473
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Speaker 1: a backup anywhere. He actually would have been a really

474
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Speaker 1: good player. But that loaded on the D line. They

475
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Speaker 1: were because they are D line, you aren't they Well

476
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Speaker 1: think about it. Three of the four guys went in

477
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Speaker 1: the top twenty picks. That's this year. Plakins went thirteen,

478
00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:05,280
Speaker 1: Dexter Lawrence went seventeen, and Cleveland Faraoll went four and

479
00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:08,480
Speaker 1: Austin Bryant was banged up so he went later. So

480
00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:12,640
Speaker 1: it was a it was a loaded D line. Well,

481
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Speaker 1: Lawrence gets suspended for the last two games, which just

482
00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:18,440
Speaker 1: happened to be the seventh final against Notre Dame. In

483
00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:21,440
Speaker 1: the final against Alabama, he's suspended for those two games.

484
00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:26,000
Speaker 1: Clemson's defense didn't drop off in the slightest. Why Huggins

485
00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:27,840
Speaker 1: stepped right in for Lawrence and did a great job.

486
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Speaker 1: Now he's not big like Lawrence Lawrences three forty five

487
00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:34,720
Speaker 1: and as a moving house, but Huggins can play. He

488
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Speaker 1: absolutely can play. So I think he comes in and

489
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Speaker 1: I'm really excited to see what he's able to bring.

490
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Speaker 1: But you bring up a name that's really intriguing and

491
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Speaker 1: all of this, and it's a name that I have

492
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Speaker 1: forgett and I shouldn't, And that's you knows former Clemson

493
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Speaker 1: teammate Carlos Watkins. Carlos Watkins to me, can be an

494
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Speaker 1: interior pass rusher at the end of the year, especially

495
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Speaker 1: in that Philadelphia game. He showed a ton of promise

496
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Speaker 1: in that game. It's just a matter of and he'd

497
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Speaker 1: do that weekend and week out to be able to

498
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Speaker 1: get on the field and get consistent rotational snaps along

499
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Speaker 1: with Watt and along with Reader and along with Angelo

500
00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:13,359
Speaker 1: Blackson's that is that's key. That is a big key

501
00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:15,440
Speaker 1: for him. Can't he do that? And even if he

502
00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:17,800
Speaker 1: just carves out a third down knitch for himself. Look,

503
00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:20,479
Speaker 1: we're gonna have our pass rushers out there. I mean

504
00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:22,840
Speaker 1: then watch Watkins is going to rush from the interior.

505
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Speaker 1: And when he was coming out of Clemson that was

506
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Speaker 1: one of the things that he did extremely well. He rushed,

507
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Speaker 1: especially over the center on third downs and did a

508
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Speaker 1: really good job. That's what he's got to be able

509
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Speaker 1: to provide that interior pass rush. He to me, is

510
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Speaker 1: going to be a guy kind of in the crosshairs

511
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Speaker 1: during training camp. What is Carlos Watkins doing. I think

512
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Speaker 1: he is really going to be a big factor in

513
00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:44,359
Speaker 1: to saw this defensive line, how it shakes out. You

514
00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:46,440
Speaker 1: know what, the most disappointing thing about this group is

515
00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:49,240
Speaker 1: they didn't continue the Fourth Square tradition and training camp

516
00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:53,000
Speaker 1: last year. Terrible, terrible. Maybe they bring it back here

517
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Speaker 1: at home. I don't know. All right, Next up, Jordan

518
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Speaker 1: Thomas tight End, Let's talk about that group a little

519
00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:01,359
Speaker 1: bit and go around the lead. My goodness, there's always

520
00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:04,480
Speaker 1: something juicy to talk about in the NFL. It's Texans Radio.

521
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Speaker 1: Always a pleasure to have you listening to Texans Radio.

522
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Speaker 1: Here from the Hunday Texans Radio studio, Mark Vandamer and

523
00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:13,920
Speaker 1: John Harris with you busy Tuesday evening. We talked to

524
00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:16,080
Speaker 1: a number of players today, including but not limited to,

525
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Speaker 1: Jordan Thomas tight End for your Texans for TD catches

526
00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:23,680
Speaker 1: last year one shot of a rookie record for this franchise.

527
00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:26,040
Speaker 1: So now he's got a year under his belt. And

528
00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:29,120
Speaker 1: what's that like, being in the city for a year

529
00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:32,919
Speaker 1: being acclimated. Yes, sir, it feels great to be here

530
00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:35,879
Speaker 1: in Houston. I didn't know what I was getting myself

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Speaker 1: into last year. So now I've I've got a year

532
00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:42,959
Speaker 1: on my built, so I'm getting I'm getting more active,

533
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Speaker 1: So it feels great to be here. Jordan, When you

534
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Speaker 1: see the rookies walking around the building, do you kind

535
00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:51,520
Speaker 1: of chuckle out him and go what they gotta go

536
00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:54,320
Speaker 1: through as rookies. You kind of look at him and go, look,

537
00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:56,880
Speaker 1: you're not a season vet yet, but you've at least

538
00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:59,360
Speaker 1: gone through that whole process. Look at him and go, yeah,

539
00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:01,360
Speaker 1: I have no idea what you're in for. So men,

540
00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:06,800
Speaker 1: Jordan Nakens was just talking, um a couple of days ago, actually, um,

541
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Speaker 1: and we've seen those blue lockers and man, the blue lockers.

542
00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:15,840
Speaker 1: They wasn't even the rookies wasn't even here yet, and

543
00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:19,280
Speaker 1: I was just I just I just, man, I feel

544
00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:21,520
Speaker 1: for them. I feel for them. So they don't know

545
00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:24,600
Speaker 1: what they're getting themselves into. They're they're nervous. I know,

546
00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:28,280
Speaker 1: I know every feeling they're feeling. So so everyone of

547
00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:31,320
Speaker 1: them they come to ask me, you know, um, how's

548
00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:34,680
Speaker 1: the rookie season? You know, I'm like, man, you gotta

549
00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:38,440
Speaker 1: experience it in your way. I can't. I can't explain it.

550
00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:41,920
Speaker 1: It's it's something you can't explain, so you just gotta

551
00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:44,600
Speaker 1: experience it in your own way. It's it's it's good,

552
00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:48,240
Speaker 1: but you know you just got to experience it. Jordan.

553
00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:49,920
Speaker 1: I always thought it was tough for rookies because you

554
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Speaker 1: go through all that pre draft stuff and then the

555
00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:54,879
Speaker 1: rookie camp and then, as you mentioned, you're nervous and everything.

556
00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:57,239
Speaker 1: Does that take a physical toll as well? How did

557
00:26:57,280 --> 00:26:58,800
Speaker 1: the season go for you? I mean, you had the

558
00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:01,440
Speaker 1: four touchdown catches, got a productive season, But had you

559
00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:05,720
Speaker 1: feel during the campaign during Honestly, I really didn't think

560
00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:08,280
Speaker 1: about any of that. I was just taking it, taking

561
00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:10,800
Speaker 1: a day by day, you know, I was tackling it,

562
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:14,400
Speaker 1: you know, day by day. So I really can't tell

563
00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:16,280
Speaker 1: you how it felt about it because I wasn't really

564
00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:18,800
Speaker 1: thinking about it, you know. So I just I just

565
00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:21,800
Speaker 1: woke up every day and said, hey, let's tackle it.

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00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:24,040
Speaker 1: So yeah, and that's just what I That's what I

567
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:28,360
Speaker 1: did every day. So I don't know, Jordan. In particular,

568
00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:31,399
Speaker 1: your senior year at Mississippi State, you played a lot

569
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Speaker 1: of receivers, which, knowing you now and seeing you now

570
00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:37,720
Speaker 1: as a tight end, thinking back that time in Mississippi State, like, man,

571
00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:40,399
Speaker 1: those SEC corners had their hands full. What was it

572
00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:44,359
Speaker 1: like making the transition to tight end? Because you probably

573
00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:46,399
Speaker 1: knew at some point you were gonna make the transition,

574
00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:48,760
Speaker 1: but now a sudden you gotta make the transition, and

575
00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:51,280
Speaker 1: you gotta do it at this level. So what was

576
00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:55,080
Speaker 1: that like, making the transition to a true tight end. Honestly,

577
00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:59,760
Speaker 1: it wasn't a big transition because I played tight end

578
00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:03,320
Speaker 1: and high school and I played receiver in high school

579
00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:07,199
Speaker 1: and then I played tight end in junior college. Um,

580
00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:11,159
Speaker 1: so I mean my senior year when I played receiver,

581
00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:15,120
Speaker 1: I was like, man, you know, they got their hands full.

582
00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:19,320
Speaker 1: You know, corners got their hands full exactly. You know,

583
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:24,639
Speaker 1: linebackers come on. So I mean, it wasn't a big transition.

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Speaker 1: You know. Um, it was just real easy. You know,

585
00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:31,000
Speaker 1: I've always, you know, been an athlete, so I just adjust.

586
00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:34,240
Speaker 1: So that was about it. When you see they acquired

587
00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:37,280
Speaker 1: Fells and they also drafted a guy in the third round.

588
00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:40,120
Speaker 1: So is it the more the merrier for you? The competition,

589
00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:42,320
Speaker 1: however you look at it, how do you take that?

590
00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:45,200
Speaker 1: I look at us as a as a mini basketball team.

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00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:50,560
Speaker 1: Actually I take it. I'll take my five over anybody. Yeah,

592
00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:53,560
Speaker 1: I'm gonna just add DeAndre Hopkins to five, so we

593
00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:57,120
Speaker 1: have a point guard. So yeah, I mean, um, can't

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Speaker 1: Aikins play some guard for him. I mean, he says

595
00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:04,480
Speaker 1: he has a basketball background, but I don't really know.

596
00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:07,520
Speaker 1: It's no film on it. You know. He said he

597
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:11,000
Speaker 1: played the baseball thing. You know, he was pretty good

598
00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:16,160
Speaker 1: at I've seen him that evidence, But the basketball, I

599
00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:18,720
Speaker 1: don't know. But we'll take him. We'll take him, you know,

600
00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:22,719
Speaker 1: we can sub them in and though but um yeah, um,

601
00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:28,960
Speaker 1: actually I UM. I looked at Khali Warren. UM great athlete,

602
00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:32,400
Speaker 1: you know. Uh, he's he's a great addition to us

603
00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:36,560
Speaker 1: um and the films. Uh. I've actually got up under

604
00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:39,600
Speaker 1: his wing because he's a big vet, you know, and

605
00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:42,440
Speaker 1: so I've been asking him questions you know, I don't

606
00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:45,200
Speaker 1: you know, and he's just took me under his wing

607
00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:49,560
Speaker 1: and we've been vibing since then. Nin game win streak

608
00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:53,680
Speaker 1: last year, you score four touchdowns. It's a pretty interesting

609
00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:55,760
Speaker 1: rookie year. I mean, good rookie year for a lot

610
00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:57,720
Speaker 1: of people. And I know you obviously want to do more.

611
00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:01,240
Speaker 1: But is there a moment from last year that stands

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00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:03,640
Speaker 1: out for you that you remember, like, yo, that was

613
00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:05,800
Speaker 1: that was awesome? When that was a really cool moment

614
00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:08,120
Speaker 1: or you welcome to the NFL moment if you had one.

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00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:10,360
Speaker 1: What was the moment that stood out to you the

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Speaker 1: most about twenty eighteen. Um, the moment that stood up

617
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:17,240
Speaker 1: to me the most is me the Dolphins game. Me

618
00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:21,800
Speaker 1: catching those two touchdowns. Um um, it was just a

619
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:25,160
Speaker 1: great night. I've never called two touchdowns in the game before,

620
00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:27,760
Speaker 1: so it was it was it was insane, and to

621
00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:30,240
Speaker 1: do it on this level, it was insane. So and

622
00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:34,680
Speaker 1: then I jumped into the crowd. So look, there's some

623
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Speaker 1: people that jump in the crowd and the fans like, yeah, yeah,

624
00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:39,600
Speaker 1: come on, you jumping in the crowd. It's like, yo,

625
00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:42,160
Speaker 1: buckle up. I mean, that's gotta be a little a

626
00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:44,840
Speaker 1: little different for the fans. But the second one you

627
00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:47,200
Speaker 1: weren't even supposed to catch, were you know, sir? What

628
00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:50,040
Speaker 1: happened on the second that wasn't even designed for me?

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Speaker 1: So I just, um uh, we just he just rolled right.

630
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Speaker 1: And so with a quarterback like the sun, you know,

631
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Speaker 1: he's the athlete, he's gonna make a play. Happened. So

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00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:04,680
Speaker 1: I just kind of leaked out, you know. And he

633
00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:07,600
Speaker 1: wasn't even looking at me with the throw. If you

634
00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:11,120
Speaker 1: if you even just look at the play, yeah, he

635
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:13,480
Speaker 1: wasn't even looking at me. He was I think he

636
00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:15,760
Speaker 1: was looking at me out of his perfuel vision and

637
00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:17,960
Speaker 1: I didn't think he was gonna throw it. And then

638
00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:21,480
Speaker 1: he threw it through a little, small little window, and

639
00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:23,720
Speaker 1: I was like, this ball is coming to me. Yeah,

640
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:25,800
Speaker 1: it was crazy. It looked like it was a tougher

641
00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:29,120
Speaker 1: catch than what it maybe. What I mean, when you

642
00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:31,120
Speaker 1: see it on TV, you're like, that's pretty. He makes

643
00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:32,720
Speaker 1: a good throw. You made it nice. It looked like

644
00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:34,400
Speaker 1: it was a little bit harder in real life. You

645
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:35,560
Speaker 1: kind of had to go down and get it a

646
00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:37,280
Speaker 1: little bit. Look like that might have been a little

647
00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:39,600
Speaker 1: bit harder catch. I was. The first one wasn't easy

648
00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:41,440
Speaker 1: catch either, because you gotta kind of go up and

649
00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:43,520
Speaker 1: get it a little bit. You don't really have to jump,

650
00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:45,680
Speaker 1: but you're trying to get away from the safety, so

651
00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:47,239
Speaker 1: you gotta go up and get it a little bit.

652
00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:49,720
Speaker 1: But then you do it on national TV too, that

653
00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:51,680
Speaker 1: had to be kind of nice. Yes, sir, Yes, sir,

654
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:54,680
Speaker 1: that the first one. It was. I just reacted to

655
00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:58,240
Speaker 1: the throw. Honestly, I didn't think about it. I just reacted,

656
00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:01,840
Speaker 1: you know, being an athlete. So all right, Fells is

657
00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:05,120
Speaker 1: coming in, so tell me this. If something should happen

658
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:08,880
Speaker 1: to the tackles. Who's the emergency tackle. It's gonna be him.

659
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:11,800
Speaker 1: It's okay, it's gonna be him. Definitely, he's happy with that,

660
00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:18,320
Speaker 1: all right, definitely definitely failed. Thanks for being with us.

661
00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:21,680
Speaker 1: Good luck, so Johnny. I guess Darren Fells is the

662
00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:25,280
Speaker 1: left tackle now if they need an emergency left tackle.

663
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:27,960
Speaker 1: That's the whole thing here. It's and in case of emergency,

664
00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:31,640
Speaker 1: like Leckler was the emergency quarterback, we think, I suppose

665
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:34,240
Speaker 1: we assume that wasn't he warming up? In one game

666
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:39,480
Speaker 1: twenty fourteen at Indianapolish lost Fitzy Savage took a took

667
00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:43,240
Speaker 1: a low hit, Oh my gosh, and I saw Leckler

668
00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:45,680
Speaker 1: warming up, And there was always a part of me

669
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:48,840
Speaker 1: that completely wanted to see it, and so totally did

670
00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:51,200
Speaker 1: not want to see it. I just wanted to see

671
00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:54,520
Speaker 1: like him in the huddle with little bottle caps and

672
00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:57,120
Speaker 1: sticks and showing everybody where they should go. Well, you

673
00:32:57,320 --> 00:33:00,320
Speaker 1: lost that game anyway, and you lost Savage anyway. Right,

674
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:03,160
Speaker 1: you lost Savage in that game at the end, and

675
00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:07,040
Speaker 1: he stayed out there, I think, and then he was

676
00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:09,320
Speaker 1: lost for a year. Was it an acl for Savage?

677
00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:12,000
Speaker 1: I think so but I don't recall. All right, so

678
00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:15,000
Speaker 1: you lost Savage for that game because that's the next

679
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:17,520
Speaker 1: game was the Keenom game against the Ravens and the

680
00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:20,480
Speaker 1: Deer Blind and all that. So yeah, as it turned out,

681
00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:22,400
Speaker 1: I mean, you could have seen Lecler for a snap

682
00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:24,720
Speaker 1: or two. That would have been interesting. But we kind

683
00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:26,320
Speaker 1: of know who it is now, well you don't kind

684
00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:28,680
Speaker 1: of we know it's Joe Webb. Of course it's Joe Webb.

685
00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:31,160
Speaker 1: It's Jolton Joe Webb. It's Joe Webb. And if something

686
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:34,440
Speaker 1: were to happen, I don't even to discuss that, but

687
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:36,400
Speaker 1: it would be Joe Webb. But you've got to have

688
00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:41,680
Speaker 1: you've got to have an emergency left tackle too, without questions,

689
00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:43,880
Speaker 1: it is Fells. It's funny because I asked Thomas that

690
00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:46,760
Speaker 1: and Fellas walks into the room and I'm thinking, oh,

691
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:49,520
Speaker 1: it's Fellas. It's Fells, you know, and I see the

692
00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:52,800
Speaker 1: dimensions and everything. I haven't met Fells yet. And to

693
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:55,840
Speaker 1: meet Fells and talk to him. He's such a likable guy.

694
00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:58,800
Speaker 1: We talked about him previously, Such a likeable bull guy.

695
00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:01,520
Speaker 1: And these guys you could tell they really get along well,

696
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:04,760
Speaker 1: these tight ends and I think Wearing is gonna get along. Well.

697
00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:06,800
Speaker 1: They know he's drafted in the third round and he's

698
00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:08,920
Speaker 1: the new kid on the block and he's gonna be competition.

699
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:11,920
Speaker 1: But it's all good. It's all good for everybody. They

700
00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:14,279
Speaker 1: know it. It's pro football, and this is what the

701
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:17,040
Speaker 1: coaches want. They want all these guys to be tight,

702
00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:19,480
Speaker 1: but they want them to be competitive. It's like a

703
00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:23,439
Speaker 1: sales office. They get along the salespeople, but you want

704
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:26,520
Speaker 1: them to be competitive with each other. Sell more please, well,

705
00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:30,960
Speaker 1: get more touchdowns? Please? Yeah? Always be catching? Yeah, always

706
00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:35,040
Speaker 1: be catching, you know for catchers. Yeah, I don't know catchers,

707
00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:37,359
Speaker 1: but yeah, now that we know that, the emergency left

708
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:39,960
Speaker 1: tackle and I'm with you, it's it's funny. We talked

709
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:43,440
Speaker 1: about Darren Fells being the emergency left tackle because he

710
00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:45,520
Speaker 1: is so good as a run blocker, and yet here's

711
00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:49,000
Speaker 1: a guy play basketball. Yeah you don't. You wouldn't think,

712
00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:51,600
Speaker 1: wait a second, how does that come to fruition? But

713
00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:54,040
Speaker 1: he's a tough guy. And I did a football one

714
00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:56,960
Speaker 1: on one on Fells when he was signed. And I

715
00:34:57,040 --> 00:34:58,640
Speaker 1: went through and I started watching games, and I was

716
00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:00,440
Speaker 1: watching the Broncos game and I saw go one on

717
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:03,560
Speaker 1: one against von Miller and just just locked him up,

718
00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:06,000
Speaker 1: and I thought, wow, that's pretty good. That's good for

719
00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:08,759
Speaker 1: a left tackle, not to mention a tight end. So

720
00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:11,440
Speaker 1: I just I like his approach and you'll hear from

721
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:15,160
Speaker 1: Fells down the road. But I think Jordan Thomas, I'm

722
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:17,920
Speaker 1: really intrigued to see what he does in year two,

723
00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:24,319
Speaker 1: really intrigue. He did say to us that, oh, yeah,

724
00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:26,680
Speaker 1: was the transition wasn't that hard? I played tight end

725
00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:29,160
Speaker 1: in high school, but look, you're going from college to

726
00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:32,319
Speaker 1: the NFL and you really hadn't played it much at

727
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:35,120
Speaker 1: Mississippi State. I like the fact that he thought the

728
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:38,239
Speaker 1: transition was not that difficult, because there were times when

729
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:40,359
Speaker 1: we watched him and went, he looks like he fits

730
00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:42,560
Speaker 1: right in at tight end, and as a why tight end,

731
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:45,759
Speaker 1: he looks like he fits in pretty well. There were

732
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:49,080
Speaker 1: also times when you could tell Jordan one totally sure

733
00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:53,160
Speaker 1: he should block on certain plays, and then like right

734
00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:54,440
Speaker 1: as the play would go, he's like, oh, I know

735
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:56,920
Speaker 1: the Oh dang it, that guy went made tackle. I

736
00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:58,640
Speaker 1: think those are the things are going to get cleaned up,

737
00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:00,640
Speaker 1: and when they do, think George Thomas is gonna be

738
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:02,319
Speaker 1: a really good football player. But I think that tight

739
00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:07,400
Speaker 1: end room, whoa, that's They're gonna be some impact players

740
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:09,840
Speaker 1: in that room. There are some impact players. If Jordan

741
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:13,480
Speaker 1: Thomas continues to develop as a player, he will be

742
00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:15,839
Speaker 1: one of the most beloved players in this city. If

743
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:19,320
Speaker 1: he can just hang on, you know, and contribute everyone.

744
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:21,319
Speaker 1: I don't you know, not even as a pro bowler.

745
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:23,640
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, as a solid contributor over the course

746
00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:25,719
Speaker 1: of a number of years, he will be one of

747
00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:29,440
Speaker 1: the most well liked Texans maybe ever. He's such a

748
00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:31,880
Speaker 1: great guy, so much fun to be around, so it

749
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:34,360
Speaker 1: was fun to have him on. All right. Some we

750
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:36,800
Speaker 1: did gut reaction yesterday, but you just give me some

751
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:39,520
Speaker 1: reaction to some of the things going on around the league.

752
00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:42,120
Speaker 1: And sometimes I just like reading Pro Football Talk the

753
00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:45,160
Speaker 1: headlines without even reading the stories because it kind of

754
00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:49,040
Speaker 1: makes me say, Okay, Josh Rosen, still waiting to hear

755
00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:52,719
Speaker 1: from Steve, come your thoughts. Good luck with that, Good

756
00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:54,640
Speaker 1: luck with that you waiting to hear. I don't know.

757
00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:57,440
Speaker 1: I'm sorry I drafted you. I don't know if the headline,

758
00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:01,880
Speaker 1: of course it doesn't. I mean I like that basically.

759
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:07,000
Speaker 1: Come from the time the season was over, until Rosen

760
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:09,600
Speaker 1: was traded, and in fact, even at that point, Kim

761
00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:12,680
Speaker 1: never talking Steve Come never talked to Josh Rosen, but

762
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:15,800
Speaker 1: he said he's a pros pro. So I don't sometimes

763
00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:19,920
Speaker 1: I don't understand that. Sometimes I I why wouldn't you.

764
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:22,640
Speaker 1: He's gonna take your call, and if he doesn't, he doesn't,

765
00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:24,920
Speaker 1: but go ahead and give him a buzz. Yeah, just

766
00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:28,320
Speaker 1: at some point during the off season. I have I

767
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:31,960
Speaker 1: have an issue with that in some respects to just

768
00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:34,520
Speaker 1: pick up the phone and say, hey, look, Josh, I

769
00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:36,800
Speaker 1: know what you've been hearing. We love what you're what

770
00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:39,480
Speaker 1: you're doing for us. We don't know exactly the direction

771
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:43,319
Speaker 1: we're gonna go. You know, I anticipate this conversation staying

772
00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:45,160
Speaker 1: between us, but we don't know what we're gonna do

773
00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:48,040
Speaker 1: at this point. We're very intrigued by Kyler. We love

774
00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:51,279
Speaker 1: what you did for us. Just hang tight and we'll

775
00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:53,960
Speaker 1: try and do the best by you. All right, what's

776
00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:57,279
Speaker 1: what's wrong with that conversation? And there's nothing wrong with

777
00:37:57,400 --> 00:38:01,480
Speaker 1: that have that conversation. You know why the calayers and

778
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:04,040
Speaker 1: you want to just have good relationships with these guys

779
00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:06,800
Speaker 1: around the league. All Right, here's another Johnny it's a

780
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:11,240
Speaker 1: Harris hit, all right. So your reaction to Odell Beckham

781
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:14,080
Speaker 1: participating in Brown's first OTA, that's a headline. I couldn't

782
00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:18,080
Speaker 1: care less. Okay, I could not care less. Oh, I

783
00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:20,520
Speaker 1: mean Jason, Look, first of all, he should be there,

784
00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:23,879
Speaker 1: and second of all, if he isn't there, who gives

785
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:26,000
Speaker 1: a rip? He's not there? He'll be there for for

786
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:30,480
Speaker 1: uh for the mini camp he got traded to the Browns. Like,

787
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:32,520
Speaker 1: go get your stuff cleared out of your head or

788
00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:34,560
Speaker 1: whatever you gotta do, and get back whenever you're ready

789
00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:36,520
Speaker 1: to go and just be ready to play on Sundays.

790
00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:39,880
Speaker 1: That's just he's not here for OTAs? Oh, what's what's that?

791
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:44,439
Speaker 1: What's that all mean? I'm not in existentialist football categories?

792
00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:49,400
Speaker 1: Like no, who cares that he's not there? You know?

793
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:51,760
Speaker 1: The funny thing is if you have a new coach,

794
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:54,719
Speaker 1: you're allowed to have extra practices, right, You're allowed to

795
00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:57,640
Speaker 1: start before other teams start as far as the offseason

796
00:38:57,680 --> 00:39:01,200
Speaker 1: conditioning OTAs and everything else. But they're still voluntary. Yes,

797
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:03,879
Speaker 1: it's kind of a weird deal. Yeah, because you're saying, oh,

798
00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:05,880
Speaker 1: it's necessary for a new coach to get off to

799
00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:08,440
Speaker 1: a good start with this team. But it's still volunteery,

800
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:12,880
Speaker 1: so it's it's one of these real tight rope situations

801
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:17,120
Speaker 1: with the voluntary nature of OTAs. I think most of

802
00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:20,040
Speaker 1: the players would agree that they are useful. They're good

803
00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:22,880
Speaker 1: for most of the guys. Some guy Tom Brady doesn't

804
00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:25,520
Speaker 1: need to go. I get that, but there are a

805
00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:28,560
Speaker 1: lot of players that need the timing, the rhythm being

806
00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:32,960
Speaker 1: around the guys, and I can't imagine consider I always

807
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:36,280
Speaker 1: bring up this point. The one thing that retired players

808
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:38,840
Speaker 1: seem to all agree on is they missed the camaraderie.

809
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:40,759
Speaker 1: They miss being around the guys, They missed the locker room.

810
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:44,000
Speaker 1: This is not ten hours a day here, it's like

811
00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:46,920
Speaker 1: four or five or something like that. You know, eat

812
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:51,120
Speaker 1: a couple of meals, work out, and be with your teammates. Yeah,

813
00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:53,080
Speaker 1: what's wrong with that? I don't know. I mean, maybe

814
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:54,840
Speaker 1: they should make it required, but they won't get that

815
00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:58,000
Speaker 1: through the CBA, so you just have to live with it. Well,

816
00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:01,040
Speaker 1: it depends on one of the CBA. Look, there's a

817
00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:04,680
Speaker 1: there's a given a take, and maybe the teams want X,

818
00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:07,120
Speaker 1: and maybe the players want why. Maybe they're gonna have

819
00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:09,520
Speaker 1: to give on both and I've I've read that maybe

820
00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:12,280
Speaker 1: that's one where they give that the OTA has become voluntary.

821
00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:16,240
Speaker 1: I don't. I sort of like it the way it is, yeah, mandatory.

822
00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:18,120
Speaker 1: I sort of like the way it is. It's voluntary,

823
00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:20,200
Speaker 1: and I love the fact that here in this building,

824
00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:23,040
Speaker 1: our guys show up. Our guys are here because of

825
00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:26,520
Speaker 1: those things you talked about, the camaraderie, the team. That's

826
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:28,319
Speaker 1: why I was a little surprised that Leva Belt didn't

827
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:30,759
Speaker 1: show up. But I'm not losing sleepover it. I just

828
00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:33,200
Speaker 1: would have thought, to your point, he was away from

829
00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:35,879
Speaker 1: the Steelers all year. You would think, Hey, Jets, new team,

830
00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:37,719
Speaker 1: new guys. I want to be around him. I want

831
00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:39,440
Speaker 1: to get them to know me. I want I want

832
00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:42,960
Speaker 1: to know them, you would think, but that's said. I

833
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:46,000
Speaker 1: don't know. I just I'm not gonna lose sleepover It'll

834
00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:51,480
Speaker 1: be Jay's The hype around this guy's read it's crazy

835
00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:54,520
Speaker 1: and he should cannot have been in the NFL one commercial.

836
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:56,640
Speaker 1: That still upsets me. All Right, we have one minute left.

837
00:40:57,320 --> 00:41:00,239
Speaker 1: Your final reaction. The Panthers are this year's all or

838
00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:03,480
Speaker 1: nothing team on that Amazon series that dives Deep. Speaking

839
00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:05,919
Speaker 1: of Deep Dives, Dives Deep, into an NFL locker room,

840
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:08,919
Speaker 1: behind the scenes everything. I like it because you're gonna

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Speaker 1: see a team go from six and two to six

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Speaker 1: and it wasn't six and ten. It's like seven and nine. Well,

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Speaker 1: they just they hit a wall. Just yeah, And I

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Speaker 1: want to see how Cam Newton handles that and how

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Speaker 1: we handle it behind the scenes. I don't have a

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Speaker 1: new quarterback. I'm a closet Cam Newton fan, you know.

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Speaker 1: I mean, four's my guy. But I kind of like Cam.

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Speaker 1: I always kind of have here. I just I like Cam.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what it is, but I like him.

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Speaker 1: And my family in Charlotte they love him, and so

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Speaker 1: I want to see kind of how he handles everything.

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Speaker 1: And I think sometimes Cam gets a bad rap for things,

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Speaker 1: but I'm interested to see what happens. All right, that's

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Speaker 1: it for the show tonight. Thank you, Johnny. We'll be

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Speaker 1: back on tomorrow with more Texans guests. Have a great night, everyone,

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Speaker 1: and go Texans.