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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome back in our number two Clay

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Speaker 1: Travis buck Sexton Show. I am Clay Travis, he is

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Speaker 1: Buck Sexton, and we are rolling through what has already

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Speaker 1: been an eventful start to the program. Kyle Rittenhouse has

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Speaker 1: taken the stand in the Kenosha, Wisconsin case where he

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Speaker 1: has been accused of killing two protesters shooting another one.

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Speaker 1: Blockbuster unexpected development for Rittenhouse to be on the stand.

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Speaker 1: He has been doing phenomenally well so far. They have

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Speaker 1: just broken for lunch. But I want to play for you,

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Speaker 1: and I know many people out there have been watching

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Speaker 1: this testimony, have been paying attention to this case. I

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Speaker 1: want to play for you a collection of people calling

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Speaker 1: Kyle Rittenhouse a terrorist before he was ever able to

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Speaker 1: have any defense at all into this media montage cut nineteen.

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Speaker 1: Why do any reporting when the media has already decided

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Speaker 1: Kyle Rittenhouse is a terrorist Kenosha shooter. Kyle Rittenhouse, he

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Speaker 1: murdered two people. By the way, Rittenhouse is basically what

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Speaker 1: you would have had in a school shooter. He's a

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Speaker 1: seventeen year old kid. He shouldn't have had a gun.

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Speaker 1: He crossed eight lines to supposedly protect property. No, he

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Speaker 1: was going out to shoot people. Kyle Rittenhouse, the seventeen

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Speaker 1: year old vigilante. Kyle Rittenhouse, the vigilante. Kyle Rittenhouse, the

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Speaker 1: arm teenage vigilante, The seventeen year old vigilante, arguably a

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Speaker 1: domestic terrorists picked up a rifle, drove to a different

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Speaker 1: state to shoot people. Kyle Rittenhouse, a guy who's deeply racist,

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Speaker 1: went with weapons to a Black Lives Matter protest looking

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Speaker 1: of people. Rittenhouse, the seventeen year old kid just running

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Speaker 1: around shooting and killing protesters. He should sue what's going on.

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Speaker 1: He should sue them. I mean, it's outrageous and stuff

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Speaker 1: that they said. It's so hard as a public figure

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Speaker 1: to ever win a case when and that's this is

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Speaker 1: Times v. Sullivan, which basically ingrained the public figure mantra

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Speaker 1: in the nineteen sixties in the Supreme Court and made

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Speaker 1: it almost impossible to sue anyone in the media who

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Speaker 1: says anything about a public figure unless you can show

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Speaker 1: actual malice. He's not a private figure because he'd been

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Speaker 1: charged with a crime. This is honestly one of the

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Speaker 1: really interesting distinctions about the Covington Catholic case. If you

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Speaker 1: remember on the steps of the Lincoln Memorial, a lot

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Speaker 1: of people out there obviously remember what happened with that

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Speaker 1: kid whose name is escaping me right now, Samman, Nicholas Sandman,

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Speaker 1: If I'm right about that, he was arguably a private

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Speaker 1: to accuse him of all this wrongdoing. But what that

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Speaker 1: is emblematic of is they didn't call him a terrorist. Basically,

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Speaker 1: they called him call him a terrorist. They call him

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Speaker 1: like a school shooter. I mean, they're saying things that

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Speaker 1: he's not charged with that is not in the fact,

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Speaker 1: in the facts of the case, in any way, shape

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Speaker 1: or form. And so what I would ask you to do,

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Speaker 1: and this is what we tried to do on this show,

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Speaker 1: what I would ask you to do is compare what

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Speaker 1: all those people said about Kyle Rittenhouse with the testimony

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Speaker 1: that you are seeing from Kyle Rittenhouse. Today and with

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Speaker 1: the actual facts that are at issue in the case,

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Speaker 1: and things are going so well for Kyle Rittenhouse. I

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Speaker 1: think you're you're right, Buck. I think one reason he

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Speaker 1: want to be not guilty. He wants to be innocent.

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Speaker 1: And that's rare in a criminal case for someone to say,

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Speaker 1: There are other countries that have actually, in their legal standard,

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Speaker 1: not guilty and also innocent. I mean that that is

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Speaker 1: in other places. He's ben trying to get off on

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Speaker 1: beyond a reasonable doubt. Yes he's not. This isn't This isn't.

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Speaker 1: It looks bad for me, But on technicalities, I'm going

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Speaker 1: to get away. This isn't an OJ situation where it's

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Speaker 1: because of historical injustice. I should get you know, get

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Speaker 1: a kid who's saying I defended myself, I did nothing wrong.

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Speaker 1: Look into my eyes, America, look at the truth, look

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Speaker 1: very beginning. They had video, Clay. This wasn't just like

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Speaker 1: What is he supposed to do. He's supposed to get

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Speaker 1: it was because BLM. There was a narrow here. The

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Speaker 1: Remember what the oblivis the mccloskey's and Saint Louis where

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Speaker 1: Don't ever stand in the way of our arsonists and rioters.

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Speaker 1: They have social justice on their side. Not only that,

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Speaker 1: we had a caller yesterday who pointed out, or maybe

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Speaker 1: a couple of days ago, the absolute abandoned of responsibility

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Speaker 1: The idea was, let's let the rioters just tire themselves

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Speaker 1: bad for the prosecutor here, Buck is that it appears,

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Speaker 1: I think whenever this goes to a jury, that the

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Speaker 1: the media analysis going forward. Oh, this was not a

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Speaker 1: prosecutor increasingly is just throwing up hail mary's which are

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Speaker 1: driving the judge bonker. Let's listen here to the judge

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Speaker 1: going after the prosecutor as the prosecutor basically basically insinuates

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Speaker 1: now is a major flaw in his defense. Listen to this.

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Speaker 1: Why would you think that that made it okay for

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Speaker 1: defense has since come back buck and said we're going

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Speaker 1: which would mean the reason why this mistrial has to

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Speaker 1: Mary plea is we've lost this case, let's try to

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Speaker 1: get a mistrial. You can't intentionally try to get a

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Speaker 1: One part of this clay that I think also sits

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Speaker 1: one of the left wing commentators said Kyle Rittenhouse is

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Speaker 1: a racist, which was an interesting based on what exactly

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Speaker 1: Are there white leftists? A lot of people that are

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Speaker 1: unless I'm missing I believe all in all three cases,

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Speaker 1: least if there is a not guilty verdict, it's less

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Speaker 1: That's really the key here. The jury doesn't feel like,

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Speaker 1: so far such a compelling job of providing his own

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Speaker 1: done with the prosecutors completely. And this is what I said,

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Speaker 1: you know, from a directed verdict perspective, Buck, And I'm

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Speaker 1: not an expert on Wisconsin criminal law, so I won't

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Speaker 1: The judge decides questions of the law. A jury decides

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Speaker 1: have COVID antibodies as you assess your decision making as

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Speaker 1: it pertains the vaccine. Yeah, if they, first of all,

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Speaker 1: they've had any positive tests confirmed, you wouldn't need it.

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Speaker 1: If that's not and you want to know, sure, yeah,

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Speaker 1: go ahead and get the antibody test. Or some may

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Speaker 1: choose to do one dose of the vaccine, and that's reasonable.

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Speaker 1: The second dose is where people get into problems. And

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Speaker 1: that's why I think it's very reasonable to say, you know,

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Speaker 1: I might just want to do one dose. And these

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Speaker 1: are the creative strategies that are good. But you're not

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Speaker 1: hearing about doctor McCarry. I just need to get your

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Speaker 1: take on the comment that was made just last week

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Speaker 1: by Rachelle will Lenski, the head of the CDC, when

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Speaker 1: she put out some public statement that masks are more

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Speaker 1: than eighty percent effective in preventing the spread of the virus.

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Speaker 1: I mean, this is just embarrassing at this point, Like

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Speaker 1: I'm there for I, for one, think that the stuff

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Speaker 1: coming out of the CDC is so unreliable. I wonder

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Speaker 1: if we'd do better if we did not have a

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Speaker 1: CDC now adjudication on every aspect of American life. I

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Speaker 1: don't want to wear a NASA astronaut space suit every day.

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Speaker 1: I wear a surgical mask at work at the hospital.

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Speaker 1: I want to live my life. And I think there's

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Speaker 1: this sense of we have to stomp out every virus

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Speaker 1: replication particle if it means taken three showers a day

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Speaker 1: in alcohol and demonizing Aaron Rodgers. By the way, these

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Speaker 1: athletes are the lowest risk people on planet Earth. Tell

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Speaker 1: me if you ever hear of a professional athlete in

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Speaker 1: any sport in any country who's ever died of COVID,

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Speaker 1: never happened, and yet we put him under the frying pan.

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Speaker 1: It's what did you think about Aaron Rodgers's comments as

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Speaker 1: a doctor? Yeah, I think he look he has I

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Speaker 1: think it was reasonable. I think he has a right

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Speaker 1: to not get vaccinated. There's risks mile karditis, especially affects

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Speaker 1: young males and athletes, and I think you can do

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Speaker 1: whatever he wants. He's not We're not putting anyone else

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Speaker 1: at risk. That study was done in our big journal, Jamma.

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Speaker 1: Out of all the SEC games, they identified zero cases

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Speaker 1: of transmission, you know, with regular activity. And yet doctor

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Speaker 1: Fauci said that it would be a feast for COVID

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Speaker 1: over the summer. I mean, this guy is so reliably

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Speaker 1: wrong over the last forty years on major health issues.

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Speaker 1: It's amazing to be doctor McCall. Anybody even listens to

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Speaker 1: him before we let you go, Clay and I are

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Speaker 1: going back and forth here on the numbers looked like

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Speaker 1: there looks like there's a bit of an increase here

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Speaker 1: in COVID. You got the study that came out that

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Speaker 1: showed that vaccine efficacy when it comes to preventing at

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Speaker 1: it drops off almost to nothing like thirteen percent or

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Speaker 1: something like that. What do you see happening this winter?

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Speaker 1: We're gonna have a small bump in the viral season

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Speaker 1: in the north, but it's going to be mostly cases.

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Speaker 1: If you've got immunity of any kind, you've got nothing

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Speaker 1: to worry about. Where no one's worried about mild cases

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Speaker 1: or asymptomatic positive test results. Remember the PCR tests is

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Speaker 1: so good it'll detect one dead virus particle in your nose.

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Speaker 1: People at risk over sixty five, I'd say get a

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Speaker 1: booster because we shouldn't have been given doses three and

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Speaker 1: four weeks apart. We still shouldn't be doing that. They

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Speaker 1: really function as one primer dose and two maybe the

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Speaker 1: magic number for at risk adults who have not already

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Speaker 1: some of your calls here in a minute. We've got

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Speaker 1: people that are obviously fired up about the written House

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Speaker 1: trial and the testimony that Cole written House was giving today.

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Speaker 1: I want to bring your voices into this conversation a moment.

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Speaker 1: I just want to say that I often tell you

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Speaker 1: that Faucci has been reliably wrong for forty years on

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Speaker 1: big questions, on important health questions. I'm not just saying

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Speaker 1: that we got the receipts, as they say, we got

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Speaker 1: the proof of it. Here's Fauci in nineteen eighty three

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Speaker 1: talking about the risk of living in the same household

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Speaker 1: as somebody with HIV. We're seeing virtually as the months

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Speaker 1: go by other groups that can be involved, and seeing

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Speaker 1: it in children is really quite disturbing. You see other

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Speaker 1: close contact give me some examples both. For example, if

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Speaker 1: the close contact of a child as a household contact,

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Speaker 1: perhaps there will be a certain number of cases of

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Speaker 1: individual who are just living with and inclosed contact with

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Speaker 1: someone with AIDS, who risks of AIDS, who does not

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Speaker 1: necessarily have to have intimate sexual contact or share a needle,

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Speaker 1: but just the ordinary close contact that one sees in

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Speaker 1: normal into personal relationships. Think about this, Clay, Here's a

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Speaker 1: guy who's telling people which we know is, by the way,

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Speaker 1: one hundred percent not the case, absolutely false. Think of

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Speaker 1: all the fear, all the terror, all the marginalization for

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Speaker 1: those who had HIV that they would suffer as a

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Speaker 1: result of this top doctor telling everybody, yeah, just living

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Speaker 1: in a house where somebody could have gotten you AIDS. Well.

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Speaker 1: I think it speaks to Fauci's ability to immediately embrace

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Speaker 1: worst case scenarios, yes, and then be very comfortable spreading

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Speaker 1: those worst case scenarios such that panic ensues. And this

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Speaker 1: is why I keep talking about how do you land

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Speaker 1: the plane? How do you land the plane when so

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Speaker 1: many parents are convinced that their kids are in mortal

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Speaker 1: peril from COVID? How do you get people to get

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Speaker 1: back to normal life when doctor Fauci has convinced them

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Speaker 1: that they're going to die of COVID. And it's amazing,

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Speaker 1: It probably shouldn't surprise anybody, but this is a clear

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Speaker 1: pattern in doctor Fauci's medical career that he takes the

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Speaker 1: most fearful, the scariest potential outcome and spreads it around

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Speaker 1: the United States, using his expertise as a doctor as

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Speaker 1: justification for his perspective. I think it's important in the

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Speaker 1: conversation we just had with doctor Marty McCarry, Why is

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Speaker 1: doctor Marty McCarry reasonable, rational, thoughtful, looking at data, presenting

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Speaker 1: it in an intelligent manner, not receiving anywhere near the

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Speaker 1: same amount of attention as doctor Fauci. Imagine how much

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Speaker 1: different the nation's response to COVID would have been if,

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Speaker 1: instead of Fauci at the head of the NIH, we

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Speaker 1: had had doctor Marty McCarry or many other doctors out

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Speaker 1: there leading out or response. Everything would be different. It's

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Speaker 1: just nice to hear from another esteemed MD who's not

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Speaker 1: in his words. I'll use my words will tell us

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Speaker 1: the truth, which is that Fauci is an evil, little

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Speaker 1: tyrant smurf. Perry in Texas, what's going on, Perry? Well,

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Speaker 1: I'm watching the trial in my office. I'm a thirty

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Speaker 1: plus year attorney prosecutor Rover twenty five years. The actions

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Speaker 1: of the DA in this trial just today alone are abhorrent,

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Speaker 1: and he should be sanctioned by the state bar and

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Speaker 1: even be suspended for it. Apparently people on the street

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Speaker 1: who watch law and order know more about this amendment

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Speaker 1: writing and severn crimination than this guy who claims he's

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Speaker 1: a prosecutor. I'm wondering if it's not time for us

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Speaker 1: to start asking out loud, how many of these people,

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Speaker 1: like this prosecutor who is obviously pressing a case that

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Speaker 1: he has no case to actually press on many of

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Speaker 1: these counts, how many of them have already been promised

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Speaker 1: campaign funds from ed and backed organizations to continue with

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Speaker 1: the sharade? Do you think as a prosecutor for twenty

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Speaker 1: five years, I'm sorry to cut you off, but when

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Speaker 1: judge's reaction to questions like that, do you feel as

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Speaker 1: if the prosecutor might be trying to get a mistrial

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Speaker 1: because he knows things are going poorly for his side.

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Speaker 1: That may be one of his motivations for doing it.

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Speaker 1: But I will tell you I was sitting at my

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Speaker 1: I was taking a break, and when he asked that question,

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Speaker 1: I literally stood up and yelled at the screen. Unbelievable.

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Speaker 1: I mean that is basic first day of law school

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Speaker 1: type of stuff. Yeah, couldn't he be sanctioned if the

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Speaker 1: judge believe that that's what he's trying to do. Isn't

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Speaker 1: that also a big no no to try to engineer

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Speaker 1: a mistrial? The ultimate sanction there would be exactly as

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Speaker 1: a defense attorney said, and that is a dismissal with

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Speaker 1: prejudice that his attempt to get the mistrial actually backfired

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Speaker 1: and he got a mistrial, but he also got the

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Speaker 1: inability to proceed with another prosecution. Hey, Perry, we really

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Speaker 1: appreciate the expertise. Thanks for joining us here and sharing

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Speaker 1: your thoughts. Kurt in Milwaukee, Wisconsin. What's up, Kurt, retired

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Speaker 1: law enforcement officer. That's right, greetings from packer Land. Guys. Hey, listen,

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Speaker 1: kind of piggyback on the attorney. This da is very

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Speaker 1: unethical and if he was worth his hunts in goal,

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Speaker 1: who worth his weight in gold? He'd be looking at

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Speaker 1: this is this is that first degree intentional homicide? It

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Speaker 1: was self defense. Second point is is that is that

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Speaker 1: this is politically motivated because they're charging Kyle Rittenhouse with

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Speaker 1: weapons charges in Rosenbaum that the person that came after

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Speaker 1: him also violated weapons charges. He has an expired curry

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Speaker 1: to steal permits. And then the third point I would

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Speaker 1: intimidation going on. They were filming the jury arriving at

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Speaker 1: the trial to try to intimidate them. Hey, Kurt, thank

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Speaker 1: you for sharing your law enforcement officer perspective on this.

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Speaker 1: We appreciate it. Jury intimidation another major consideration here. That's

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Speaker 1: why I brought up some of the politics around this

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Speaker 1: trial and how that's influencing possibly the outcome here. But

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Speaker 1: we'll come back with more updates on the written House trial,

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Speaker 1: more on the fight against COVID madness and the crappy

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Speaker 1: Biden economy. Claire and I are going to bust it

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Speaker 1: all down for you. You're listening to Clay Travis and

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