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Speaker 1: Welcome to Games of Names. I'm Julian Edelman, and we

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Speaker 1: got a brand new compilation highlight reels starting now.

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Speaker 2: Now, Julian and Lorenzo Nio go in depth explaining blocking

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Speaker 2: and running schemes.

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Speaker 1: Now, you used to do powers bosses? Did you wham

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Speaker 1: it all? Oh? Yeah, Well, can you explain the difference

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Speaker 1: of each of the the things that each of the

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Speaker 1: assignments you had?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, absolute would say like we had forre mentions.

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Speaker 1: So you had a wham wham.

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Speaker 3: A wham is usually when the three technique, the guy

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Speaker 3: whoever positioned the big motherfucker in the middle in the

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Speaker 3: middle and the guard flashes him like I'm blocking, and

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Speaker 3: he slips him and lets the go to second level,

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Speaker 3: goes to the second level up to the linebacker, and

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Speaker 3: now the big guy in the middle comes through and

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Speaker 3: he thinks he's got a wide open and I'm right

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Speaker 3: there at ear hold him and get him.

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Speaker 1: So that wham is you against tackle? Yes, bam, bam,

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Speaker 1: use it bam.

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Speaker 3: Is either when I can come, I can line out

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Speaker 3: like the X or the Z and they can motion

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Speaker 3: me in and that's kind of when the crack. I

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Speaker 3: did that to Dwight feenie. That's kind of how we

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Speaker 3: did the crack.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: And when you're getting toss outside line, outside linebacker or

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Speaker 3: the d N and that's yeah, and we call usually

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Speaker 3: like ninety or seventy crack or you know, toss crack okay,

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Speaker 3: gator tng okay, and we've come down and hit that

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Speaker 3: defensive end, Dwight Freenie.

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Speaker 1: I got him, had him. I had him the.

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Speaker 3: Year they went thirteen and and we're the only team

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Speaker 3: to beat him. I think thirteen thirteen three. Yeah, you

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Speaker 3: got to pull it out and I was getting freeye.

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Speaker 3: So what's boss? Boss means? A boss is when the

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Speaker 3: line when you pitch the ball back on safe back

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Speaker 3: on strong safety yep, So boss, excuse it. You have

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Speaker 3: the guard tackle pulling around. He's kind of your garden tackle.

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Speaker 3: They're pulling around, cleaning up. The linebackers turn in and

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Speaker 3: it choosy boss back on safety to Z or the X.

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Speaker 3: When you're going he's coming down blocking and cracking and

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Speaker 3: the usually opens up the safety and the full back.

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Speaker 1: So boss, I love boss because they're a little small.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, boss, Boss, I knew they were going to try

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Speaker 3: to cut me and if they stayed up on their feet.

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Speaker 1: They had no chance. Shot, no shot. Power.

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Speaker 3: Power is that's when the thirty and sixty power, forty

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Speaker 3: sixty power, whatever it is, you know, sixty or seventy power.

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Speaker 1: That's when you have a down block.

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Speaker 3: The fullback is running the track, he's going where the

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Speaker 3: tackle was. The tight end he's blocking, he's blocking down.

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Speaker 3: The usual to guard is pulling so and then power.

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Speaker 3: I'm kicking out the end or whoever the end man

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Speaker 3: is on the line of scrip. A linebacker, a defensive end.

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Speaker 3: You could be an edge guy that you're just your

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Speaker 3: power and you're going boom. That's where it's power because

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Speaker 3: you got two guys of power. They're blocking down. It's

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Speaker 3: a pull and full back at the point of attack.

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Speaker 1: What's another one?

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Speaker 3: I love Iso, Iso, and that's you in the middle,

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Speaker 3: Me and the middle linebacker. Isol was my bread and

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Speaker 3: butter because the guards fans like he's showing pass and

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Speaker 3: boom the whole yus.

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Speaker 1: He opens up.

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Speaker 3: Linebacker takes a step back and he realized it's it's

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Speaker 3: it's lead and he's got to come make a decision.

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Speaker 1: Love lead, love, power, lead load ice io. Yeah, ma'all.

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Speaker 1: And so that is that all of them. Yeah, you

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Speaker 1: know what you had that or you you know you

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Speaker 1: had that, and that's what you gotta you young, young fullbacks.

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Speaker 1: There's six right, six plays that you have to just

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Speaker 1: not give a fuck on about your body. Yeah, that's all.

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Speaker 1: That's what fullback is. That's why you say it's about

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Speaker 1: to quit, right, because you you know the sixth plays.

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Speaker 3: Right right, and then we had Hey, you ain't going out.

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Speaker 1: You ain't gonna get his right.

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Speaker 3: You gotta earn the right exactly, and you'll get rewarded

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Speaker 3: every now and then you do. You do your job

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Speaker 3: like we and then you have you know, like Bob,

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Speaker 3: weak side play where it's like me blocking the wheelbacker

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Speaker 3: the guy in the bubble, so guards covered. You know,

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Speaker 1: So we got to get So when we're cutting all

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Speaker 1: this up, we'll have an example of each of your explanation, okay,

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Speaker 1: with a film cut up of it. It'll be fun. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I can't wait to see what you like we'll cut

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Speaker 1: all this ship. You know, we will cut and spice it.

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Speaker 1: But like we'll see if we can get all the

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Speaker 1: bam boss bob. Okay, it'll be It'll be fun. That'll

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Speaker 1: be that you remember license the footage? I know. Can

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Speaker 1: we not do that yet? Don't we still do it?

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Speaker 1: Not yet? I got a question for you.

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Speaker 4: So we've talked about all the different running backs that

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Speaker 4: you've balked for Now do you have to change or

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Speaker 4: adapt how you operate? Like, because Mike also has a

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Speaker 4: very different running style from Ladanian Thomason.

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Speaker 5: Does do they want different things out of you? Or

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Speaker 5: is your job pretty much the same and you just.

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Speaker 1: Go for it? No?

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Speaker 3: I think when sometimes you know, like LT is like

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Speaker 3: all right, cool, he's paid, he's guy that boom boom.

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Speaker 3: You want to just you want to make sure that

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Speaker 3: him choose where he wants to go. Corey Dillon, he

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Speaker 3: gonna run up your ass, you gotta be. If you don't,

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Speaker 3: frigg and go and make a create a hole. You

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Speaker 3: want to make sure you're doing him and Eddie Eddie Eddie.

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Speaker 3: You know, he's a little longer, so it's hard when

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Speaker 3: he gets going. He wants that forward lean Eddie George,

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Speaker 3: so you're just going to go. But yeah, there's different

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Speaker 3: there's different little tweaks that you that you want to do.

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Speaker 3: A guy like you know Sprosy, you don't. He's back

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Speaker 3: me step on his toes first, meaning that I want

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Speaker 1: Before you do it.

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Speaker 3: You know, a running back job is to set the

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Speaker 3: block up exactly if you're running the outside, if you're

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Speaker 3: running the lead or running or running like a Bob downhill,

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Speaker 3: he needs to hug that double team because the guard

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Speaker 1: And they're gonna go up to the next guy. Yes,

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Speaker 1: And they can only do that if the running back

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Speaker 1: why then he's gonna come in. He is gonna get it.

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Speaker 1: So he's got to be patient and run off the

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Speaker 1: ass of that guy, press it and then it'll naturally happen.

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Speaker 1: And then you read off of that. So it could

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Speaker 1: you could go slip in there, or if he hugs

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Speaker 3: But if he comes off right away, then linebacker then said, man,

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Speaker 3: that linebacker he fired is done. He made he made

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Speaker 3: the tackle in the backfield is because the guard didn't

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Speaker 3: he does that, that linebacker has to stay home. So

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Speaker 3: that's what That's one of the things that you read

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Speaker 3: just watching the game.

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Speaker 4: And that just develops over to.

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Speaker 1: More stuff.

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Speaker 5: You guys communicate on the sideline.

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Speaker 1: You to develop that and you watch other tape doing

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Speaker 1: it and also situations right like what what's the situation

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Speaker 1: is a third? You know this is a thirteen inches

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Speaker 1: fourth and inches. There's like certain points where they know

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Speaker 1: the vulnerables part of part of the defense where they

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Speaker 1: have to win for the play to work, they have

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Speaker 1: you to win, for this to win, then it becomes inertia. Yep.

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Speaker 4: Was there a running back from the history of the

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Speaker 4: NFL that you wish you could have blocked for?

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Speaker 6: Oh?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I really, really, really wish it's brilliant

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Speaker 3: or not.

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Speaker 1: The emmins.

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Speaker 3: I mean Barry Sanders at times you just said, man,

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Speaker 3: because he really didn't like a fullback at times. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: so just to see what to change him. Yeah, you

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Speaker 3: want to change them. That could change Barry, Baby, let

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Speaker 3: me change Barry the bear. You would have ran behind me,

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Speaker 3: I said, you would have stayed in there. Yeah, I

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Speaker 3: mean there are some backs, man, that you just looked

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Speaker 3: at over the years that you say, now today's game.

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Speaker 3: I would love Derrick Henry. Yeah, yeah, I mean because

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Speaker 1: To be straight. The fun would that have been to

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Speaker 1: see that, just getting you into him. Let's go.

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Speaker 3: The Niners would Christian because as they do those stretch

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Speaker 3: Niners make you cover every blade of grass because they

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Speaker 3: got that stretch play. So when you're running out there,

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Speaker 3: that linebacker's moving sideways. I'd love to be able to

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Speaker 3: just they're gonna go find so they can't cut back.

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Speaker 3: So and Christians, that guy who presses the hole, he would,

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Speaker 3: he'd make you look good. McCaffrey runs a lot like

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Speaker 3: the way they press the hole.

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Speaker 1: So that pressing is like, that's that's like the main

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Speaker 1: thing for a running back. That's that's what differentiates a

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Speaker 1: college running back to a pro running back. In college,

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Speaker 1: a running back can just hit the hole and break tackles.

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Speaker 1: You can't do that in the league. You have to

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Speaker 1: set up and be patient with your with your line.

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Speaker 1: There's a line to every run, and there's a way

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Speaker 1: that a track they call it. You got to hit

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Speaker 1: the fucking track. Run the track, the track, and the track.

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Speaker 1: Like so a lot of these young running backs styill

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Speaker 1: cut before the block is ignited, and then so it's

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Speaker 1: an early cut because it looks big and it looks

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Speaker 1: So guys like Christian McCaffrey and l t who's all

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Speaker 1: pressed rate, they press it, they'll damn near come right

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Speaker 1: off your heel and then fool speed put their foot

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Speaker 1: in the ground and then go that And and that's

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Speaker 1: the hardest because once the linebackers waiting, linebackers waiting, Oh shit,

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Speaker 1: he's gone, he's gone. And that's that's what the great

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Speaker 1: running backs do. But It's it's like one of those

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Speaker 1: things where you know you have guys over here, you

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Speaker 1: have another block over here on the with the you know,

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Speaker 1: the receiver whatever, there's another matchup. But he's got to

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Speaker 1: feel that and like press that and then you know it.

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Speaker 1: You know that's like the number one thing. It is

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Speaker 1: the running back. It is no question.

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Speaker 2: Next, Andrew Whitworth explains how offensive linemen prepare for games.

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Speaker 1: How'd you prepare to face this elite D defensive line

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Speaker 1: or defensive defensive and what is your like what do

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Speaker 1: you look at when you were watching the film when

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Speaker 1: When they move. And that's what It's a dance, baby,

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Speaker 7: Always told me this, like and it made me think

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Speaker 1: Who's this guy? Like who is this kid? Like is

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Speaker 7: Is he low?

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Speaker 7: That's offensive hundred. Yeah, that's not two hundred three hundred.

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Speaker 1: Right, What does that any mean? Yeah? Well, you know,

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Speaker 7: So one hundred, two hundred three hundred, that's like your

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Speaker 1: This is like class level. Can't can't stay baby, it's advanced. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: Are looking at your tape?

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Speaker 4: Like what are they what things are they queuing in

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Speaker 7: I go back to this like if I'm reaching, I'm dead, right,

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Speaker 7: you reach your fee, stop, you're dead. So I'm never reaching, right.

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Speaker 7: Like even if you've got my hands, I'll be okay, yeah, sorry,

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Speaker 1: Is what we people love this love crafts the game.

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Speaker 2: Next, Max Crosby explains how he breaks down his own

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Speaker 1: Now we had Whitworth on stud I love god love that.

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Speaker 1: And he would he would talk about he felt defensive

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Speaker 6: Yeah, no, I definitely do you know I come from

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Speaker 6: He had Warren sab Julius Pepper's numerous Hall of famers.

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Speaker 6: And that dude is all about watching your film. Like

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Speaker 6: So that's I watch film on other guys. Of course

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Speaker 6: I try to pick up during the week. All right,

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Speaker 1: You know whoever.

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Speaker 6: But at the end of the day, I can't sit

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Speaker 6: because you can go into the plant. Okay, they're gonna

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Speaker 1: He comes up to me, all right, this is the

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Speaker 6: They don't chip. They just they five man up. They're

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Speaker 1: Know what I mean.

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Speaker 6: But that's why, Like I can sit there and anticipate

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you're what they call a problem. You know, if

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Speaker 1: when I was playing, we were to ever play a

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Speaker 1: the team meeting like one of the keys to victory,

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Speaker 1: which is never usually a player. But Crosby's that kind

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Speaker 1: it in the run game. You could see it in

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Speaker 1: the past game. They're sending chips running backs.

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Speaker 2: Next up, Julie explains what leverage is in football.

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Speaker 1: I think I'm fairly knowledgeable football player, but whenever you guys.

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Speaker 2: Talk about leverage, can you playing leverage.

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Speaker 1: Could you go over it, educate, let's go. So you

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Speaker 1: said two different things there. When you said position yourself

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Speaker 1: closest to the quarterback, that's called stacking in the receiver room.

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Speaker 1: We're talking, we're in receiver room. Because leverage is used

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Speaker 1: throughout all of football. Leverage could be pad pad level

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Speaker 1: for defensive lineman's got to get your leverage. You know,

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Speaker 1: for defense a lot of for us, attacking leverage is

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Speaker 1: attacking what they're trying to protect. So if it's a

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Speaker 1: post safety, there's one safety in the middle of the field,

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Speaker 1: they're trying to funnel everything to that one safety. So

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Speaker 1: everyone's going to have outside leverage. So for a receiver,

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Speaker 1: when you're trying to gain leverage on an outside guy,

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Speaker 1: you got to do something to get outside of him.

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Speaker 1: That's what everyone talks about in leverage or in you know,

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Speaker 1: when you're attacking a leverage on you know, for a receiver,

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Speaker 1: say you have an off defender who's covering you and

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Speaker 1: he's got off inside leverage. You have an inbreaking route.

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Speaker 1: How I was taught to always run routes, which is

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Speaker 1: different in a lot of different systems, is to attack

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Speaker 1: the leverage. So he's trying to protect probably inside, so

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Speaker 1: you attack him, attack them, and you're bringing them all

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Speaker 1: the way in until you can finally get in. You're

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Speaker 1: trying to break the leverage. That's what the leverage is.

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Speaker 1: When you say positioning between the closest to the quarterback,

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Speaker 1: that's usually like a downfield throw. That's what I'm thinking

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Speaker 1: of when when when I hear that, when when you

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Speaker 1: see greats like Randy Moss, what they do is they

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Speaker 1: stack the defender, so they put their body in between

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Speaker 1: the defender and where the ball is, you know what

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Speaker 1: I mean. So you're using your back and then you're

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Speaker 1: using your body to block him while letting the ball

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Speaker 1: come over. That's like stacking. I don't know if that

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Speaker 1: had anything to do with the closest the quarterback, but

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Speaker 1: that's that. That's do you guys get that? So leverage

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Speaker 1: looks so just.

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Speaker 4: From clarification for leverage, just to help me, you're on

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Speaker 4: you're a wide receiver.

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Speaker 5: You're on the line of scrimmage.

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Speaker 4: You're being lined up. It's a man coverage. You're being

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Speaker 4: lined up directly across is a cornerback if they're if

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Speaker 4: they're head onto you like lined up feet the feet

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Speaker 4: there's no leverage there. If they're inside, he has inside

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Speaker 4: leverage to you, and if he's outside, he has outside leverage.

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Speaker 1: Yes, now if he's head up on you, how you know,

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Speaker 1: what he's probably trying to protect is the safest.

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Speaker 4: Safety if the safeties, if there's two on the outsiders too.

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Speaker 1: If there's two safeties, he's going to be trying to

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Speaker 1: protect the inside because the vulnerable spot of a two

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Speaker 1: safety shell is the inside of that, that middle inside part.

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Speaker 1: That's why you always see like tight ends down the

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Speaker 1: middle because they're with those seam reads, you know, So

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Speaker 1: like that's what they're trying to protect because they have

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Speaker 1: help over here. So whenever you hear a defensive coach

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Speaker 1: say keep your fucking leverage, he's telling the defender, do

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Speaker 1: not let the guy outside of you. Okay, we have

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Speaker 1: one safety in here. Your help is inside. Do not

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Speaker 1: let him outside. I don't care if you have to

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Speaker 1: grab him, I don't care if you have to run

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Speaker 1: to the fucking sideline. Your help is when he goes inside.

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Speaker 1: If he beats your leverage and stacks in and breaks it,

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Speaker 1: there's no help. You're on an island. So that's a

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Speaker 1: lot of the leverage.

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Speaker 4: So if you want to get a defensial coach would say,

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Speaker 4: you want to lose opposite of your leverage because you

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Speaker 4: have help there.

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Speaker 1: If you're a corner, we've got a key, yes, because

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Speaker 1: you've got a safety back there or what else or

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Speaker 1: a linebacker or whatever.

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Speaker 4: And then continuing this from like a offensive line perspective

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Speaker 4: or like blocking perspective, we talk a lot about like

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Speaker 4: nine block or nine technique blocks from a tight end.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, is it for me?

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Speaker 4: This question for me is that talked about a lot,

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Speaker 4: because that's when a tight end has to make like

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Speaker 4: it they have they don't have leverage, but they still

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Speaker 4: have to make the block.

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Speaker 1: They get into. Like there's different like techniques for those

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Speaker 1: guys and footwork for those guys to gain the leverage

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Speaker 1: or to set the line of or to set the edge.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes when you have an outside like Rob would be

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Speaker 1: the perfect guy to talk to you about this. But

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Speaker 1: if you have outside leverage and you have to gain

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Speaker 1: the leverage, they do these little drop steps and then

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Speaker 1: they'll go and they'll connect and then if he if

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Speaker 1: he's still keeping the edge, you're setting the new edge.

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Speaker 1: So the running back has to go inside that Okay,

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Speaker 1: so I don't really I'm not like a doctor in that.

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Speaker 1: But for leverage, for route running, it's usually what they're

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Speaker 1: trying to protect. You're trying to or you know, you're

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Speaker 1: attacking that that protection side or what they're trying to protect.

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Speaker 1: And the great route runners like you watch, like DeVante Adams,

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Speaker 1: you watch back in my day Stevie Johnson, he was

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Speaker 1: really good at like breaking the leverages, you know what

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Speaker 1: I mean with releases. Guys that can break those leverages

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Speaker 1: are crazier. If you see an out like it and

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Speaker 1: and you could you could win that leverage at two spots.

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Speaker 1: You can win that the beginning part of the route

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Speaker 1: with the release, or you can win it at the

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Speaker 1: top of the route. So sometimes you'll see an incut

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Speaker 1: where the defender keeps that inside leverage and the receiver

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Speaker 1: just goes and he's and he's trailing them inside Like

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Speaker 1: a really good route runner wo would have got in.

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Speaker 1: But if sometimes these guys get paid a lot of

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Speaker 1: money too, and they kind of know what's going on,

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Speaker 1: you have to win at the top of the route,

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Speaker 1: So you have to do something to get that leverage

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Speaker 1: at the top. Now, is that the slow down jab

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Speaker 1: step jab in, out in, out in and then have

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Speaker 1: him undercut and then you're collecting your leverage. You know

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Speaker 1: what I mean?

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Speaker 4: Is that kind of like what you were talking about

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Speaker 4: when we had Cooper cup on. Yeah, but you were like,

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Speaker 4: you like the gain leverage on the line and he

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Speaker 4: likes to do it on the break.

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Speaker 1: Mmmm, that is how I interpreted it.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm sure way more nuanced to that.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe I gotta I gotta call my

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Speaker 1: receivers because I gotta call shatto ship. I need a

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Speaker 1: little bruhatio studio doctor leverage, doctor doctor left And guys.

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Speaker 8: Don't confuse this with the tn T crime drama Leverage, uh,

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Speaker 8: starring Timothy Hutton. This is Football Talk, Football Talk, not

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Speaker 8: the mid Notts tn T. We know drama lineup going

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Speaker 8: now now.

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Speaker 2: Nate Bner explains what football players could learn from rugby players.

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Speaker 1: What could an NFL guy learn from rugby? All these

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Speaker 1: laterals did you see like Travis Kelcey and all these

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Speaker 1: guys that's like really coming into the game.

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Speaker 5: I think it's great.

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Speaker 9: I think they could learn a lot from tackling, especially

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Speaker 9: in space. You know, it's like one thing when it's

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Speaker 9: third and one, and you know, it's two back set

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Speaker 9: or something, and the defensive lines got to take on

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Speaker 9: the guys.

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Speaker 5: But you know, the tackle field tackling, you know, gallop. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: we did a lot of really good gallop. We did

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Speaker 5: a lot of really good stuff.

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Speaker 1: From your feet in the ground and fucking guy, you're done.

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Speaker 5: We had a lot of good tacklers too.

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Speaker 9: I bet and no with the Patriots, Oh yeah, because

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Speaker 9: we did some good tackling stuff. And I just think

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Speaker 9: they could learn a lot from tackling. I think a

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Speaker 9: lot of guys would learn what really being fit is,

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Speaker 9: because you know, a lot of guys think they're in shape,

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Speaker 9: but I mean, I guess we are for football. But

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Speaker 9: it's just like your ability to never get tired is

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Speaker 9: the greatest feeling in the world.

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Speaker 1: That is. I mean I felt like that from like

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Speaker 1: twenty six five to like thirty twenty nine, twenty nine,

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Speaker 1: I started getting tired, Like I could see in my conditioning.

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Speaker 1: When off season you start getting tired from injuries or

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Speaker 1: whatever it is, or you're older, do you notice that

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Speaker 1: the older.

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Speaker 9: Guys just start getting My body just the wheels fell

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Speaker 9: off at thirty two, and I held on for another year.

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Speaker 5: And they were just completely off at thirty.

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Speaker 1: Three's what's the difference between an NFL locker room and

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Speaker 1: a rugby locker room?

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Speaker 5: That's what else what I was gonna say.

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Speaker 9: You asked what could guys learn from from rugby guys,

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Speaker 9: and I'd say, just culturally, it's just like no me guys. Yeah,

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Speaker 9: like they're just not unexistent in the rugby world. Like

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Speaker 9: the guys are always such good guys. The culture is

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Speaker 9: so good, and it's such a team first mentality, and

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Speaker 9: I mean, we do that. But like you see the

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Speaker 9: Prima Donnas in the NFL, and like, just like the

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Speaker 9: amount of meanness and in the NFL is crazy when

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Speaker 9: I see a whole other side of it and in

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Speaker 9: a team sport like rugby where there are guys that

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Speaker 9: control the game. But you know, I think you really

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Speaker 9: understand rugby, like it takes everybody to make a play go,

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Speaker 9: you know, and we get you know, some waters your

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Speaker 9: position seems to be the Prima Donnas. But like I

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Speaker 9: not you, but your position, and you know, they they forget,

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Speaker 9: they forget there's an offensive line blocking for Tom and

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Speaker 9: you know or whoever, and Tom's throwing the ball and

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Speaker 9: you got other guys are running clear out routes and

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Speaker 9: then people are blocking down field for him, and then

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Speaker 9: they get in the end zone.

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Speaker 5: And it's just like I did that, Fuck you, dude.

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Speaker 1: I know there's a lot of that now.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, So that that's probably the biggest thing I take

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Speaker 9: away from them is how vastly different the cultures are

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Speaker 9: for two pretty much team sports, you know, And you know,

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Speaker 9: I would argue though in the NFL, you almost kids

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Speaker 9: come up in that though. You gotta be noticed, you

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Speaker 9: gotta you know, you gotta be about you and let

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Speaker 9: everybody see how good you are. And we build that

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Speaker 9: culture in American sports because that's what makes it big

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Speaker 9: and makes money. And you know, rugby is not like that.

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Speaker 9: So yeah, man, it's it's a great sport.

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Speaker 1: Do you guys have fun songs you sing or anything?

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Speaker 1: You have a song like a or do you guys

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Speaker 1: drink beers with the other team?

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Speaker 9: And if you could pull up the free jacks post

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Speaker 9: game like they do like a post game song after

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Speaker 9: they win and they sing these songs song, I don't know,

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Speaker 9: it's that they're kind of hot.

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Speaker 1: It's kind of like our locker room and I get

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Speaker 1: on the mic before practice, it start flowing.

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Speaker 9: You just ruined the vibe for everybody in the lock.

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Speaker 9: We're all getting ready to go and then then here

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Speaker 9: comes Edels and we're like, god, damn it.

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Speaker 1: I think it was the fake microphone rapping it.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, just your pants on, no pads yet, just ready

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Speaker 9: to go, everybody.

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Speaker 5: Just you made people laugh though. I don't know if

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Speaker 5: they were vibing, but they were laughing. Oh, you brought

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Speaker 5: the juice. Thanks for listening.

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