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Speaker 3: Happy Friday, everybody, Emily, great to see you.

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Speaker 4: Great to see you.

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Speaker 5: Were waiting on Ryan Grimm, but he should pop up shortly.

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Speaker 2: He'll make his grand entrance any moment. Now. You already

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Speaker 2: made this joke. What are we going to talk about today?

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Speaker 2: Just how you know that it's brilliant and original. We

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Speaker 2: missed you yesterday when Ryan and I did our Breaking News,

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Speaker 2: So I'm excited to get your thoughts on this whole

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Speaker 2: elon Trump meltdown debacle. I mean, what are your top line,

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Speaker 2: what are your reflections on what's unfolded thus far.

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Speaker 4: So this is I was wrong.

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Speaker 5: I said on the show many many times that I

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Speaker 5: expected not a massive explosion in the relationship. But what

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Speaker 5: we saw literally until yesterday is what I thought was

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Speaker 5: the likeliest scenario, which is that it would be a

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Speaker 5: slow disentangling where everyone can save face because they both

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Speaker 5: are very powerful and both have so much to lose. Ye. Now,

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Speaker 5: what's interesting I think is all of this happened after

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Speaker 5: Elon Musk came out and said he's done with political donations,

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Speaker 5: and so I think the transactionality of the relationship was

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Speaker 5: really hurt by the Wisconsin election that we covered, and

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Speaker 5: was really hurt by Elon Musk saying he can't He's

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Speaker 5: not even going to donate, and that I think made

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Speaker 5: it easier for everything to ultimately blow up.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that changed the calculation on the on Trump's part

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Speaker 2: at least, and then Elon's calculation seemed to be changed

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Speaker 2: somewhat by Trump pulling the plug on his NASA pick.

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Speaker 2: Because when Elon couldn't have his guy at NASA to

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Speaker 2: Grand Mars ambitions, that seemed to have somewhat changed his calculus.

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Speaker 3: Hey Ryan, how's it going pretty good?

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Speaker 4: How you doing good?

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Speaker 2: So we're gonna I have like one million elements pulled

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Speaker 2: on Elon versus Trump to go through just things that

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Speaker 2: transpired since Ryan and I did our breaking segment yesterday.

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Speaker 2: We also have media Benjamin from Code Pink, who's going

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Speaker 2: to join Legendary Activists. They just did an action with

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Speaker 2: at ruppers out of Randy Fines's office. He's the one

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Speaker 2: who called for Gaza to be nuked, so always really inspiring.

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Speaker 2: Great to talk to her, so she's going to join.

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Speaker 2: going to jump into. There's Zoron continuing to get asked

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Speaker 2: his thoughts on Israel, which is that's interesting and of itself.

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Speaker 2: We've got the KJPE stuff that we didn't get to

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Speaker 3: You do agree doing.

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Speaker 6: That, You do not want to be doing that. And

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Speaker 6: in the back half of the show, we can also

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Speaker 6: talk about something I just broke, which is that next

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Speaker 6: week the House is planning to vote on a resolution

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Speaker 6: that would deem the phrase free Palestine to be quote

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Speaker 6: an anti Semitic slogan.

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Speaker 3: Jesus.

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Speaker 6: They've tucked it into a resolution that condemns the Colorado

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Speaker 6: terrorist attack in Boulder. But if you vote for that

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Speaker 6: to condemn that attack, you're voting for language that says

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Speaker 6: that Palestine as an anti Semitic slogan that calls for

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Speaker 2: Wow, that is so devious. To put those two things

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Speaker 5: All Right.

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Speaker 3: I struggled with how to start.

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Speaker 2: The Elon Trump feud portion, so I thought we would

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Speaker 2: start with, you know, the absolute most important news here,

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Speaker 2: which is that Elon Musk has unsubscribed and unfollowed cat Tured.

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Speaker 3: You know, it's truly an end of an era.

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Speaker 6: Why did he do this? He's going to miss out

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Speaker 6: on all of these insights.

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Speaker 2: I mean, Catured will still probably be in his feed,

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Speaker 2: but depending on I guess how Elon rearranges the algorithm

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Speaker 2: now for this new era.

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Speaker 3: But it is pretty funny, he says.

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Speaker 2: Catured says breaking Elon Musk has unsubscribed and unfollowed me.

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Speaker 2: Alex Jones says he's not in my Trump cult. Many

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Speaker 2: large influencer accounts desperately tried to stay neutral today. I've

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Speaker 2: never changed in years. If you want to criticize Trump's bill,

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Speaker 2: no problem. If you don't like Trump's policies, no problem.

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Speaker 2: I'm okay with that. If you don't like Trump's tariffs,

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Speaker 2: I'll listen to yourself. But when you come out and

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Speaker 2: call Trump a pedophile, that's when you've crossed a red line.

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Speaker 2: Don't care about anything you have to say after that, Emily.

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Speaker 5: First of all, it was for Elon Musk, Like it

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Speaker 5: started to be clear. Elon Musk started this by saying

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Speaker 5: that tweet he posted, what was it Monday or Tuesday?

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Speaker 5: He posted one saying I can't hold it in any longer.

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Speaker 4: The bill is abominable. What did you call it? A bominable?

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Speaker 4: A disgrace?

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Speaker 5: And that was I mean before his criticism of the

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Speaker 5: And then he posted that and they could no longer

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Speaker 5: do this dance pretending that they were all on the

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Speaker 5: same page and it was just a happy marriage. So

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Speaker 5: to go from that, I mean, this is not zero

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Speaker 4: To your in the.

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Speaker 5: Epstein files, Musk created a problem for himself, which is basically,

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Speaker 5: I helped elect a guy in the Epstein files, despite

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Speaker 5: apparently being really serious about him, said that I loved

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Speaker 5: him as much as any straight man could love another man,

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Speaker 5: and then working for his administration just it creates a

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Speaker 2: Yeah, oh, no doubt about it. I'll pull this up.

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Speaker 2: So there's some reporting. It's been kind of interesting Trump's

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Speaker 2: response because Elon has gone as scorched earth as you

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Speaker 2: possibly can, right, bringing in Epstein saying you only won

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Speaker 2: the election because of me, which is another admission, right

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Speaker 2: has gone as scorched earth as he possibly can. And

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Speaker 2: my senses, Trump has been somewhat restrained, Like he definitely

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Speaker 2: has not gone as hard in response as Elon has. Now,

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Speaker 2: maybe that's because Trump has a lot more than just

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Speaker 2: rhetorical arrows that he could shoot at Elon, right he

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Speaker 2: you know, he threatened Elon's government subsidies for and you know,

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Speaker 2: all this stuff, which again is another commentary on how

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Speaker 2: much this one guy and this gigantic monopoly, like how

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Speaker 2: dependent as a country you've become on you know, this monopoly.

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Speaker 2: But Trump has the power to pull those contracts to

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Speaker 2: investigate Elon ban and I've got all of a bunch

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Speaker 2: of clips from him calling for Elon to be investigated

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Speaker 2: and you know deported for his you know, entering the

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Speaker 2: country and of false pretensers O're staying his visa or whatever,

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Speaker 2: the immigration fraud allegedly as with regard to him. So

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Speaker 2: maybe the reason why Trump rhetorically has been a little

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Speaker 5: These are the two true social posts that Trump has.

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Speaker 5: And he was responding to reporters yesterday too, but these

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Speaker 5: are the two true social posts he's posted so far.

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Speaker 5: Elon I think is up to dozens, like he's in

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Speaker 5: the dozens. Oh yeah, of course of the week I

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Speaker 5: So it's.

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Speaker 3: Which is actually a diminished pace on for Elon.

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Speaker 5: But yes, no, just on Trump is what they counted, Yeah,

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Speaker 5: which is something else.

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Speaker 2: Ryan, There was Politico reporting that there was a possible daytonte.

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Speaker 2: Signs of a truce are aberging and increasingly bitter clash.

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Speaker 2: Trump projected an Arab nonchalance in an interview Thursday with Politico.

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Speaker 2: White House aids, after working to persuade the President to

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Speaker 2: temper his public criticism of Musk to avoid escalation, scheduled

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Speaker 2: a call Friday with Elon to broker a piece. Oh

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Speaker 2: it's okay, Trump told Politico in a brief telephone call

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Speaker 2: when asked about the very public breakup, It's going very well.

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Speaker 2: Never done better. Trump went on to toubt his favorability rating, saying,

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Speaker 2: this morning we have reporting from Jonathan and Carl saying

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Speaker 2: that no, there is no phone call planned. Let me

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Speaker 2: see if I can pull this one up as well,

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Speaker 2: so we can see it in a phone conversation. This morning,

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Speaker 2: Trump told me Elon Musk is the man who has

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Speaker 2: even concerned about the few deus who reports there's going

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Speaker 2: told me he is not particularly interested in talking to Musk,

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Speaker 2: although he says Musk wants to talk to him, which,

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Speaker 2: if true, is you know, interesting dynamic.

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Speaker 3: There as well.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it shows Trump very much believes that he's winning

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Speaker 6: this breakup and also understood that Elon was becoming quite

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Speaker 6: going forward.

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Speaker 2: You know not, and the more he can blame anything

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Speaker 6: Up with those Yes, right, you certainly you literally could.

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Speaker 6: Although it's it's tough because it's like people are gonna

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Speaker 6: be like, well, who hired Elon in the first place?

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Speaker 6: But yeah, he he loves to like blame you know,

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Speaker 6: John Bolton or whoever, and and talk about them as

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Speaker 6: the biggest morons that have ever existed without even like

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Speaker 6: bothering to reconcile the the question of well, then why

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Speaker 6: should we trust your one that brought this moron in

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Speaker 6: here in the first place? But whatever? Carry on? Uh,

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Speaker 6: I wonder if this uh you know, there's a lot

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Speaker 6: of glee on the left about this, But is is

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Speaker 6: is now the kind of Stephen Miller wing just kind

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Speaker 6: of completely unshackled, Like was there any useful moderating force

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Speaker 6: that Musk might have been playing? Emily, you think that

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Speaker 6: now isn't being played?

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Speaker 5: No, I don't think so, And I don't think well

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Speaker 5: because we should.

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Speaker 6: Just have glee.

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Speaker 5: I can't think of a way in which Elon Musk

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Speaker 6: Ultimately, the complicating factor in all this is that you know,

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Speaker 5: There was all of this momentum before Elon went nuclear

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Speaker 5: But it's made it easier for leadership to get from

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and what some of the MAGA people, including I

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Speaker 7: He's a no at all. He knows some engineering, don't

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Speaker 8: Doge was for any boys this exist, Well, you're wrapping

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Speaker 8: This is President Trump's first complaint was this all bs

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Speaker 2: But he's, you know, and he's been critical of Elon

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Speaker 2: the whole time, and at times pretty viciously critical of

438
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Speaker 2: Elon because Elon is this, you know, has this like,

439
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Speaker 2: in my opinion, evil transm like anti human ideology that

440
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Speaker 2: you know, Bannon also sees that way. In any case,

441
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Speaker 2: let's take a listen to how he talks about this dispute.

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Speaker 7: Elon Musk is working for himself.

443
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Speaker 8: President Trump empowered him more than anyone's ever been empowered

444
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Speaker 8: in this government, had his back, promoted this guy. And

445
00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:29,280
Speaker 8: when people like me who said you're making a mistake, right,

446
00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:31,520
Speaker 8: this is a bad guy. He's going to turn on you.

447
00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:35,280
Speaker 8: He's not with us. He's also totally incompetent. And President

448
00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:38,320
Speaker 8: Trump said, hey, give this guy a shot. And I

449
00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:40,760
Speaker 8: trust President Trump's judgment and often say, as people know,

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Speaker 8: I backed off a little, right now, if I packed

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Speaker 8: off a little, but.

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Speaker 7: It's not about observation.

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Speaker 8: As soon as he didn't think he ran the deal

454
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Speaker 8: or got the adoration right that he was starting to

455
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Speaker 8: be saying, where's.

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Speaker 7: The tree in dollars? Right? He turned on President Trump,

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Speaker 7: but most importantly he turned on the country and the

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Speaker 7: American people.

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Speaker 8: And President Trump just had enough of it now and

460
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Speaker 8: he forced his way back in to have like some

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Speaker 8: last day.

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Speaker 7: They didn't want to do that, but fine.

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Speaker 8: And then as soon as President Trump comes out today

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Speaker 8: and President Trump saying it in the nicest way possible

465
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Speaker 8: about right the bill, but being banged back, the guy

466
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Speaker 8: gets up and start the most vicious stuff you could tweet.

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Speaker 7: So all the fanboys defend this.

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Speaker 8: He accused President Trump and basically being to a group

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Speaker 8: with those of pedophiles on the island. He called for

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Speaker 8: he called for the president to be impeached and JD.

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Speaker 7: Vance to take his role.

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Speaker 8: As hard as we've worked in all the years that

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Speaker 8: we've walked in, this audience's works on. Punk is going

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Speaker 8: to sit there and go he's always should be impeached.

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Speaker 8: And hey, as sure as the turning of the earth,

476
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Speaker 8: if those progressors rub up on him and say, hey,

477
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Speaker 8: they're never gonna buy the they're never going to buy

478
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Speaker 8: the Tesla's where they're going to buy the Tesla's they

479
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Speaker 8: rub up on him, He'll write a five hundred million

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Speaker 8: dollar check for a king Jefferies. He'll be across the

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Speaker 8: thing looking to impeach President Trump, looking to help steal

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Speaker 8: the twenty eight election.

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Speaker 7: Look into a prison President Trump. So here's my point,

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Speaker 7: let's get ahead of it.

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Speaker 2: So those progresses, Ryan, they rub up on him. He'll

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Speaker 2: be there with his five don't and they're already rubbing

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Speaker 2: up on him.

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Speaker 3: Glacias. Yeah, Rocanna out there ready to rub up on him.

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Speaker 6: So and he's he's saying, you might get ahead of it.

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Speaker 6: Then he says, he says, we should deport him and

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Speaker 6: see his companies. I mean, Bannon does not play around.

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Speaker 6: He's he's laying down. He's laying down a marker.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: And yesterday I was saying that there was this he

495
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Speaker 6: was on stage where somebody on stage with him like

496
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Speaker 6: joked or admitted that they kind of like came in illegally.

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Speaker 6: That was with his brother apparently, and his he told

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Speaker 6: his brother like, what are you doing?

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Speaker 9: Man?

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Speaker 6: Like it's not cool to like admit to that. So yeah,

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Speaker 6: like Steve, Steve Miller is looking through the file as

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Speaker 6: we speak, no doubt about it. And there's no question

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Speaker 6: Miller has ordered up a has requested, like, let me

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Speaker 6: take a closer look at that file. Was he going

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Speaker 6: to do anything with it?

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Speaker 7: I don't know.

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Speaker 6: Is he looking? You better believe it.

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Speaker 3: Huh. Yeah, here's the what you're referring to.

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Speaker 2: Bannon says they should initiate a formal investigation of Elon's

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Speaker 2: immigration status. I am of the strong belief he's an

511
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Speaker 2: illegal alien. He should be deported from the country immediately,

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Speaker 2: he said in a phone interview. Bannon said the Trump

513
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Speaker 2: administration should also investigate Musk's drug use and his effort

514
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Speaker 2: to get a classified briefing on China from the Pentagon,

515
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Speaker 2: which was reported by The Times. Bannon said musks security

516
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Speaker 2: clearance should be suspended during those investigations. And you know

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Speaker 2: the other thing that I was thinking about, and I

518
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Speaker 2: saw an article this morning that the Doge boys are

519
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Speaker 2: kind of freaking out about what their status is going

520
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Speaker 2: to be in the government now because Elon does.

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Speaker 6: Have in all of I feel sorry for them.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, big balls, it's all on the line. But Elon

523
00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:49,400
Speaker 2: does have this like hand picked cadre of loyalists who

524
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Speaker 2: are now installed in key positions all throughout the government,

525
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Speaker 2: sleeper cells, deep State, United way.

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Speaker 3: Throughout the government.

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Speaker 2: Who I mean, we're joking, but these are people who

528
00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:07,480
Speaker 2: have explicitly when they came in, they aggressively sought access

529
00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:11,680
Speaker 2: to these incredibly sensitive systems, and we have very little

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Speaker 2: insight or transparency into who they are, where they are,

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Speaker 2: what they've been doing, what they have access to, et cetera. So,

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Speaker 2: I mean, that is another thing that Elon potentially has

533
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Speaker 2: because those are people who, you know, most of the

534
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Speaker 2: installed you know, the people have been installed in the

535
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Speaker 2: Trump administration, most of them are Trump loyalists, but these

536
00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:33,639
Speaker 2: ones were picked to be Elon loyalists, and they are

537
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Speaker 2: now like you know, embedded throughout key infrastructure in the government.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: And but just a couple of weeks ago, Elon must

540
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Speaker 5: said Doze is now a way of life. When he

541
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Speaker 5: was leaving, he said that dose is now a way

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Speaker 5: of life in the government and.

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Speaker 4: That it's so what are these people's jobs?

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Speaker 5: Right, Because basically there was this idea that it was

545
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Speaker 5: DOJE was gonna kind of be under the direction of

546
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Speaker 5: russ vote, but it wasn't really going to be doged

547
00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:05,000
Speaker 5: so much as it was going to be just an

548
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Speaker 5: administration wide effort to make significant cuts to the administrative

549
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Speaker 5: agencies while they have the power of the executive and

550
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Speaker 5: to try to thwart those agencies from ever regenerating to.

551
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Speaker 4: Their previous size.

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Speaker 5: If you know, there's not a Republican president in the

553
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Speaker 5: next four years whatever, So what are their jobs now

554
00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:27,520
Speaker 5: because they actually do work for the government.

555
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Speaker 4: Are there going to be a wave of people? Is

556
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Speaker 4: there going to be a wave of people who moved

557
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Speaker 4: to Washington, d c.

558
00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:38,040
Speaker 5: From wherever they were Silicon Valleys previously?

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Speaker 4: Where do they end up?

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Speaker 5: I mean, are they just going to quit or are

561
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Speaker 5: they going to cooperate with, for example, the efforts at

562
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Speaker 5: the State Department, which now oversees USAID to keep.

563
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Speaker 4: Working to figure out what that looks like in the future.

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Speaker 4: I don't know. I don't think we have a good

565
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Speaker 4: answer to that question.

566
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Speaker 5: And some of it may be hinging on the call

567
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Speaker 5: that Trump and mustcap today.

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Speaker 2: Well if they have, I mean, Trump is saying that's

569
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Speaker 2: not happening, yeah, but who knows, he could be lying.

570
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Speaker 3: We don't know what he said.

571
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Speaker 4: The hijin ping call was yeah, I don't know what

572
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Speaker 4: goes on.

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Speaker 3: Who knows? I will say.

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Speaker 2: Also Elon was sort of backing off some online too,

575
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Speaker 2: you know, some like small full one hundred follower account

576
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:17,880
Speaker 2: or whatever, was like, you guys are both better than this,

577
00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:19,760
Speaker 2: and Elon was like, you're right, I'm not going to

578
00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:22,760
Speaker 2: decommission the Dragon space grubbage for the one that, like,

579
00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:24,720
Speaker 2: you know, we use for the International Space Station. I

580
00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:27,400
Speaker 2: think that's the one or whatever. But in any case,

581
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Speaker 2: so he was also trying to somewhat moderate, so maybe

582
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Speaker 2: there's some sort of reconciliation. I'll just say Media Benjamin

583
00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:37,640
Speaker 2: is waiting to get in, so we'll go ahead and

584
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Speaker 2: move on to to talk to her about their activism.

585
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Speaker 2: But I'll just say, neither of these men are known

586
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Speaker 2: for like discipline or self restraint, even that even when

587
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Speaker 2: it would be in their potential best interest. So you know,

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Speaker 2: I would fully personally, I would fully expect, even if

589
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Speaker 2: there is a bit of a like calmbing of the

590
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Speaker 2: waters for the moment and a bit of a Dayton,

591
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Speaker 2: that there could be renewed flare ups at any point

592
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Speaker 2: in time.

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Speaker 3: Because that's just who these who these guys are.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that's right.

595
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Speaker 2: All right, let me go ahead and welcome media in here. Hi, Medea,

596
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Speaker 2: how are you?

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Speaker 9: Good morning? I'm good, Thank you morning.

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Speaker 3: Nice to see you you know Ryan and Emily.

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Speaker 9: Of course, yes, hello Ryan, Emily.

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Speaker 5: Can I tell a quick story Crystal before we dive in, Yes,

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Speaker 5: of course, so media. When I was in college, I

602
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Speaker 5: was an intern at the American Enterprise Institute, and we

603
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Speaker 5: used to have I.

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Speaker 4: Used to I used to have to work the desk.

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Speaker 4: So I used to have to work the desk to

606
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Speaker 4: take phone calls. And there was a.

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Speaker 5: Sticker of people not to let into a e I

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Speaker 5: and your name was on.

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Speaker 3: It, Yes, absolute badge of honor.

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Speaker 6: Who else was on there?

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Speaker 5: I don't remember, I don't remember. I think it was

612
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Speaker 5: like a handful of code pink people.

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Speaker 3: So awesome.

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Speaker 2: Love that love, that testament to your effectiveness and your

615
00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:14,320
Speaker 2: longtime commitment to peace and not war. And we wanted

616
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Speaker 2: to catch up with you guys have been doing, you know,

617
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Speaker 2: extraordinary number of actions and quite significant. Also wanted to

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Speaker 2: talk to you a little bit about the flotilla, the

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Speaker 2: AID flotilla right now headed to Gaza, because I knew

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Speaker 2: you were supposed to be on one previously.

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Speaker 3: But first of all, let me let me pull up here.

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Speaker 2: You all just did an action at Representative Randy Fines

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Speaker 2: office and for people who are unawares. He is, this

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Speaker 2: newly elected Florida Republican who called for Gaza to be

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Speaker 2: nuked on Fox News, in addition to saying all sorts

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Speaker 2: of other just outrageous and atrocious things that anyone would

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Speaker 2: think would be completely out of bounds, but somehow goes

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Speaker 2: with barely a note in today's climate. So let me

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Speaker 2: go ahead and pull up here a little bit of

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Speaker 2: the video of you all, you know, entering Randy Fine's

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Speaker 2: office and what you had to say.

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Speaker 9: You were not here before one of the two people

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Speaker 9: with this.

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Speaker 2: Hold on, hold on. That was a different action that

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Speaker 2: you guys did. Let me find it.

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Speaker 6: Well, madea tells yeah, while she's looking for it, you

637
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:19,080
Speaker 6: want to tell you the only thing about the latest

638
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Speaker 6: on the flotilla and we can come back.

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Speaker 9: Well, it's getting close. You probably heard about the incident,

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Speaker 9: you know, where they took these four people on board

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Speaker 9: and then fish.

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Speaker 6: Fish fished some refugees out of the.

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Speaker 7: Water, right.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, so they went a little bit out of their way.

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Speaker 9: Now they're back on track and they're headed towards Gaza. Uh.

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Speaker 9: You know, having somebody like reda Turnberg on board makes

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Speaker 9: it very difficult for the Israelis. But what they have

648
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Speaker 9: done in the past is board the ships and confiscate

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Speaker 9: the ship and arrest everybody on board, uh and deport them.

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Speaker 9: So that might be what they're thinking now. Of course

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Speaker 9: they've done worse than that, like they did in the

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Speaker 9: month of Marmara in twenty ten and actually killed people.

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Speaker 9: And you know they did bomb the ships well with

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Speaker 9: drones the ship that was supposed to be going the

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Speaker 9: larger ship that was going to carry about one hundred

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Speaker 9: and fifty people.

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Speaker 3: Wow.

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Speaker 2: I was able to pull up that video or reference

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Speaker 2: before of you all at Randy Fine's office. So let's

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Speaker 2: go ahead and play some of us.

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Speaker 9: So get ready with us as we go into the

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Speaker 9: office of Congressman Randy Fine.

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Speaker 10: That's the most bigoted, painful member of Congress as Palestinian.

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Speaker 11: Look, would I have to stand up here and show

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Speaker 11: you they're here in Randy Vine's office because we're very

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Speaker 11: concerned about this rhetoric about Palestinians and other groups. And

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Speaker 11: I am a Palestinian, a mother of four children, I'm

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Speaker 11: an American citizen. All my children are American citizens, and

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Speaker 11: we're walking around hearing this kind of rhetoric. It's scary

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Speaker 11: it's nice kind of example.

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Speaker 10: Are you giving us to people in the United States too?

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Speaker 3: We're all responsible here.

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Speaker 11: Will not look kindly hashtag starve away congressman who says

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Speaker 11: such a thing Goza.

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Speaker 10: Must be destroyed. I've been to Gaza six times. I've

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Speaker 10: seen the wonderful people that live in Gaza. People at

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Speaker 10: Gaza are two point two million people. They are families,

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Speaker 10: their children, they're women, there are men, there are ordinary

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Speaker 10: people just like us. And to say Gaza must be

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Speaker 10: destroyed is a policy that we are now doing, and

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Speaker 10: we have been doing now for nineteen months.

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Speaker 2: And so Medea, what sort of reaction did you get

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Speaker 2: from the office when you were there and what was

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Speaker 2: your goal also to accomplish with this action.

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Speaker 9: Well, we don't think that Randy Fine has gotten enough attention.

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Speaker 9: I mean, you know, if any member of Congress from

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Speaker 9: the Democratic side, like Rashida Tali barill han Omer had

688
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Speaker 9: said one of the things that he said, they would

689
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Speaker 9: not only be censored, I'm sure there would be howls

690
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Speaker 9: to kick them out of Congress. This is just disgusting

691
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Speaker 9: stuff that he said, and the American people don't really know.

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Speaker 9: So we wanted to highlight it more and you know,

693
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Speaker 9: we're always trying to reach people in his district as well,

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Speaker 9: so that they start calling him and saying this is

695
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Speaker 9: just unacceptable. And I think it was quite interesting because

696
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Speaker 9: they hesitated in calling the police. And I think that's

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Speaker 9: perhaps because he's new and his staff doesn't quite know

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Speaker 9: the ropes.

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Speaker 4: But they don't yet.

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Speaker 3: They don't have the sticker up with.

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Speaker 9: Well, you know, they do keep their office locked. You

702
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Speaker 9: have to knock to come in, and they say, oh,

703
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Speaker 9: you know, we get death threats, and we're saying, hey,

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Speaker 9: if you didn't put a hashtag starve away, bomb away,

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Speaker 9: shoot away, I don't think people would be so mad

706
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Speaker 9: at you. But the staff did listen to us, and

707
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Speaker 9: not only that, they did give us a meeting later

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Speaker 9: in the day. So we had about a half an

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Speaker 9: hour sit down with some of the staff, which was

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Speaker 9: quite interesting, and we've asked for a meeting directly with

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Speaker 9: Randy find himself. So I just think it's an example

712
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Speaker 9: of how we shouldn't let these things go by. We

713
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Speaker 9: should contact these members of Congress. We should say that

714
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Speaker 9: this is just not acceptable. We should be asking other

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Speaker 9: members of Congress to censor them, which we have done.

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Speaker 9: We file ethics complaints constantly against these members of Congress.

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Speaker 9: I must say, we almost never hear back anything, and

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Speaker 9: when we do it's just, you know, thank you very much.

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Speaker 9: But again it's we shouldn't let it go by.

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Speaker 6: What was the staff meeting?

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Speaker 3: Like?

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Speaker 9: The staff meeting was good. It was from the communications department.

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Speaker 9: They wanted to hear from us more. We asked them

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Speaker 9: if they think this kind of rhetoric doesn't translate into

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Speaker 9: threats against not only Palestinians and Muslims, but Jewish people

726
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Speaker 9: as well, and isn't this harmful? Well, they said that,

727
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Speaker 9: you know, they had a lot of the standard things.

728
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Speaker 9: One of the women there was saying that she was

729
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Speaker 9: recently graduate from university and how Jewish students are not safe,

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Speaker 9: and this rise in anti Semitism is something that Randy

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Speaker 9: Fine is trying to deal with, and of course we say, well,

732
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Speaker 9: he's dealing with it in the exact opposite way.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 9: They just kept saying he's trying to defend the Jewish

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Speaker 9: people and of course defend Israel. I can't say that

736
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Speaker 9: we moved them. But later on in the afternoon, there

737
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Speaker 9: was somebody who I can't identify, but he came by

738
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Speaker 9: and quietly said to us, thank you so much for

739
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Speaker 9: coming by the office. We really like this kind of

740
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Speaker 9: language and know that there are people inside all of

741
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Speaker 9: these offices, and you know, we hear this constantly. It's unbelievable,

742
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Speaker 9: certainly from the younger people. We hear it. We hear

743
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Speaker 9: it from the front desk staff people, we hear it

744
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Speaker 9: from the cafeteria workers, hear it from the people cleaning up.

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Speaker 9: So you know, that's why we're in the offices every

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Speaker 9: single day, because we think just our presence there is important.

747
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Speaker 5: And that's what I wanted to ask by because I

748
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Speaker 5: find that so interesting. I mean, Tucker Carlson just spent

749
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Speaker 5: a not insignificant portion of one of his shows trashing

750
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Speaker 5: Randy Fine, and we've covered a lot of polling about

751
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Speaker 5: the disconnect between younger and older right leaning Americans on

752
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Speaker 5: the question of Israel in Gaza, and so Midia, I'm

753
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Speaker 5: curious how your or what you've noticed over time as

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Speaker 5: you've been doing this having conversations with people who are

755
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Speaker 5: at least formerly very associated with the neo conservative wing.

756
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Speaker 5: Probably still are, but maybe their's staff isn't. Are you

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Speaker 5: noticing something different in the last couple of years or

758
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Speaker 5: is that just a lot of talk like what have

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Speaker 5: you seen?

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Speaker 9: Emily? You're right, it's absolutely changed. I mean, first is

761
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Speaker 9: the generational divide. We see it constantly. It's very unusual.

762
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Speaker 9: In fact, that young women that I mentioned about Randy Fimes,

763
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Speaker 9: she was unusual in that she really stuck so much

764
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Speaker 9: to this. You know, Israel is right. We find that

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Speaker 9: not only is there a generational divide, people of color

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Speaker 9: versus white people divide. You know, it is much more

767
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Speaker 9: sympathetic among the black members of Congress, not the members,

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Speaker 9: the staff people, certainly the Muslim ones, but also the Latinos.

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Speaker 9: You find a lot of support among Latinos. And then

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Speaker 9: in terms of the Congress people themselves changing well, of course,

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Speaker 9: you know, we have seen this ever so slowly. I

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Speaker 9: was in Tom Massey's office yesterday and actually met him

773
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Speaker 9: and he said, I'm sure you love my tweet, didn't you,

774
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Speaker 9: in which he said for Israel?

775
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Speaker 3: And I said, oh, was significant, Yeah.

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Speaker 9: It was significant. But you know, we said, you've got

777
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Speaker 9: to be working with other members of your party. We

778
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Speaker 9: need a breakaway moment for Republicans. You know, we have

779
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Speaker 9: about twenty five Democrats who have introduced a new resolution

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Speaker 9: to block the bombs and that was started by Delhia

781
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Speaker 9: Ramirez with a number of great members of Congress. We

782
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Speaker 9: need something like that on the Republican side. And because

783
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Speaker 9: it's so divisive politically, even Republicans like Tom Massey or

784
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Speaker 9: Marjorie Tayler Green, they don't want to sign on anything

785
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Speaker 9: that comes from the Democrats. So we tell them start

786
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Speaker 9: your own. And we've been focusing a lot on Republicans

787
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Speaker 9: going to their offices every single day, and sometimes in

788
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Speaker 9: a more aggressive way like Randy Fine, and sometimes in

789
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Speaker 9: a very respectful, nice way. And we have made some

790
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Speaker 9: good relationships and those offices. So we're just waiting for

791
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Speaker 9: the moment where they finally will break away. And you know,

792
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Speaker 9: we say to them, Trump is counting on you to

793
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Speaker 9: support him in the dialogue with Iran UH and Trump

794
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Speaker 9: doesn't want to see a continuation of these wars, and

795
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Speaker 9: so you can really be helpful. We kind of, you know,

796
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Speaker 9: swallow deep when we go and.

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Speaker 2: I gotta do what you gotta do. But what there

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Speaker 2: what have you seen in terms of like public support

799
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Speaker 2: for Code Pink and number of volunteers for these actions.

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Speaker 2: You know, what is the sort of EBB and flow

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Speaker 2: of that beIN.

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Speaker 9: Well, it's just been going up and up and up

803
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Speaker 9: and up. I mean that among younger people, people who

804
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Speaker 9: are not US citizens, it's harder for them to join us,

805
00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:55,799
Speaker 9: and they tell us all the time, we wish we

806
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Speaker 9: could be there with you, but we're concerned about everything

807
00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:02,560
Speaker 9: that you can imagine, their jobs and student loans, everything.

808
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Speaker 9: So it falls to a smaller number of people to

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Speaker 9: do it, but we have a great group of people

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Speaker 9: and it changes. We get new people constantly who go

811
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Speaker 9: around with us in the halls every day, making the visits,

812
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Speaker 9: doing the rounds, bringing in the latest piece of legislation,

813
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Speaker 9: asking them to sign on to it, asking them to

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Speaker 9: put out public statements condemning things like the Gaza Humanitarian Foundation.

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Speaker 9: And in terms of the support, it's unbelievable. I mean,

816
00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:36,600
Speaker 9: members of Code Pink we walk around in the streets

817
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Speaker 9: and people will stop their cars to get out and

818
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Speaker 9: give us hugs. We are constantly getting thanks from people,

819
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Speaker 9: and it's going up and up and up, And I

820
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Speaker 9: think it's this starvation that people just can't stand. They've

821
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Speaker 9: unfortunately gotten used to the bombings with seeing that for

822
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Speaker 9: nineteen months, but now the starvation and that is something

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Speaker 9: I think that's hard for the members of con to

824
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Speaker 9: justify as well. Of course, you know they try to

825
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Speaker 9: say it's Hamas and moss stealing the food and that

826
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Speaker 9: kind of stuff, but you know, it doesn't really pass

827
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Speaker 9: the what the what test?

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Speaker 3: What the smell test? Will say any jazz.

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Speaker 9: So, yes, we're getting more.

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Speaker 6: I don't know if you saw this, but about an

831
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Speaker 6: hour ago I reported that next week Congress will be

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Speaker 6: voting on a resolution that will be standard resolution condemning

833
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Speaker 6: the terror attack in Boulder, Colorado, but embedded in it

834
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Speaker 6: it said, it will deem that the phrase free Palestine.

835
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Speaker 6: And let me put this up here, the phrase free

836
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Speaker 6: Palestine is an anti Semitic slogan. So let's see. Yeah, yeah,

837
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Speaker 6: it's an anti Semitic slogan that calls for the destruction

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Speaker 6: of the State of Israel and the Jewish people. So yeah,

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Speaker 6: whereas while shouting free Palestine an anti Semitic slogan. So

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Speaker 6: you've seen these resolutions a lot before that it'll say,

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Speaker 6: you know, we condemn this, you know, truly awful thing,

842
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Speaker 6: and then they embed within it something that they're trying

843
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Speaker 6: to trap democrats and everybody else into into agreeing with

844
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Speaker 6: and in this case, it's it's to agree that the

845
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Speaker 6: phrase free Palestine is actually an anti Semitic slogan. How

846
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Speaker 6: do you think that'll go? Like, do they still have

847
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Speaker 6: the juice that they can ram this through? Are people

848
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Speaker 6: still too afraid of voting no and being told how

849
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Speaker 6: dare you not condemn this terrorist attack?

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Speaker 9: Well? Yes, you see how sneaky they are. But I

851
00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:43,120
Speaker 9: think you know, this kind of thing is just played

852
00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:47,680
Speaker 9: out too much and doesn't have any weight anymore. It's

853
00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:50,799
Speaker 9: just a ridiculous thing to do. And many times we've

854
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Speaker 9: seen that some of these worse resolutions don't even pass,

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Speaker 9: and then if they do pass, you know, they don't

856
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Speaker 9: have the weight of law. And as soon as we

857
00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:02,640
Speaker 9: hear something like that from you, Ryan and thank you

858
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Speaker 9: for alerting us, you know, we'll go into Congress and

859
00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:07,799
Speaker 9: we'll just be going from room to room shouting free Palestine,

860
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Speaker 9: Free Palestine. So this kind of thing can is another

861
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Speaker 9: scare tactic, but I think we're way beyond.

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Speaker 5: That, and one that maybe since you just talked to

863
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Speaker 5: people like Thomas Massey who have been against that, MEDEA

864
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Speaker 5: will be blocked by enough Republicans.

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Speaker 4: I'm curious what you think about.

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Speaker 9: That, Yes, as long as they know what they're voting for,

867
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Speaker 9: and that we have to make sure they do. I mean,

868
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Speaker 9: we see people like Marjorie Taylor Green, you know, who

869
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Speaker 9: doesn't want to vote for these kinds of things, and

870
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Speaker 9: so you know, we go to her office and we

871
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Speaker 9: alert them, we go to the other offices. But you're right,

872
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Speaker 9: I think there's enough Republicans that'll say, you know, this,

873
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Speaker 9: this is.

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Speaker 6: Just although there are probably enough Democrats to push it

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Speaker 6: over the top. But the first person I noticed one

876
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Speaker 6: after I reported it, the first person that responded to

877
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Speaker 6: it was a bandoned person who tagged Marjorie Taylor Green, Oh,

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Speaker 6: interesting thing, help us out here.

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Speaker 3: Wow.

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Speaker 6: Interesting What some members do on these is they just

881
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Speaker 6: vote present because then they're not endorsing it one way

882
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Speaker 6: or the other, just to say this is a game

883
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Speaker 6: and I'm not going to participate in it, right, And.

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Speaker 9: I think you know that these kinds of things, they're

885
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Speaker 9: just losing their power. And I feel like APAC is

886
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:29,239
Speaker 9: losing its power. APAC doesn't have the power to get

887
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Speaker 9: to the president into the White House. APAX certainly, you know,

888
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Speaker 9: I'm not saying they don't have tremendous power. But I

889
00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:40,960
Speaker 9: don't feel like they can ram through things like this

890
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Speaker 9: the way they used to be able to, because there

891
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Speaker 9: are a couple of Republicans who are standing up of so, No,

892
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Speaker 9: the tide is turning so so so slowly, but it

893
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Speaker 9: is turning.

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Speaker 3: Media.

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Speaker 2: What about on the Democratic side, I mean, on the

896
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Speaker 2: one hand, you have more dissent from the lockstep pro

897
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Speaker 2: Israel consensus and pro genocide consensus.

898
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Speaker 3: On the Democratic side.

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Speaker 2: On the other hand, you have I think a much

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Speaker 2: vaster gulf between where the elected Democrats are and where

901
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Speaker 2: the bases. I mean, the base of the Democratic Party

902
00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:15,839
Speaker 2: has basically wholesale turned on this.

903
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Speaker 3: Onslaught in Gaza are disgusted with that.

904
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Speaker 2: They don't want weapons going, they want it to end,

905
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Speaker 2: they want aid to go in et cetera. And so

906
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Speaker 2: have you seen a shift among Democratic members as well

907
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Speaker 2: in the way that they're the way that they're interacting

908
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Speaker 2: with you, the way that they're feeling about how they

909
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Speaker 2: should approach these issues.

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Speaker 9: Well, as I said earlier, I think the starvation issue

911
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Speaker 9: has really changed things. I think it has made it very,

912
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Speaker 9: very uncomfortable for these pro Israel Democrats to be sticking

913
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Speaker 9: with the line that the Gaza Humanitarian Foundation is the

914
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Speaker 9: way to go. That anra's full of Hamas supporters, and

915
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Speaker 9: we couldn't possibly go with that. You know, we have

916
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Speaker 9: been pushing that Democrats have to support the United Nations.

917
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Speaker 9: Now that we have Mark Rubio sanctioning the ICC, and

918
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Speaker 9: now that we have this just dystopian form of quote

919
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Speaker 9: getting food into Gaza, I think it's a chance now

920
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Speaker 9: for getting some more of these more conservative Democrats to

921
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Speaker 9: go back to saying we have to support the UN agencies.

922
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Speaker 9: You know, maybe they don't want to say unrust specifically,

923
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Speaker 9: but you know, we have the World Food Program and

924
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Speaker 9: Cindy McCain has been so good on these issues of

925
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Speaker 9: saying that Hamas is not stealing the aid. So I

926
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Speaker 9: think this gives us a little more opening to reach

927
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Speaker 9: some of those conservative Democrats at least on this issue

928
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Speaker 9: of starving people is not something that the US can support.

929
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Speaker 9: And then there's also you know, the issue of a

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Speaker 9: season fire, which is really not there's not a vehicle

931
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Speaker 9: within Congress to show support for a ceasefire right now. Yeah,

932
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Speaker 9: that's the vehicles for the food issue. And now this

933
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Speaker 9: issue about banning some weapons. But we definitely need need

934
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Speaker 9: to bring back up the ceasefire. And that's tough for

935
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Speaker 9: Democrats because you know, they see this now in the

936
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Speaker 9: Republican court and it's up to Trump to figure this out,

937
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Speaker 9: and they don't want to be seen as pushing him

938
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Speaker 9: on the ceasefire issue.

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Speaker 2: Madia, do you get still get like personally nervous when

940
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Speaker 2: you're gonna jump up on stage or jump up in

941
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Speaker 2: an audience or go into member of Congress's office and

942
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Speaker 2: be like stop supporting genocide? Like do you have you

943
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Speaker 2: done it so many times that you don't get nervous

944
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Speaker 2: for these sorts of things because sometimes, I mean, you've

945
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Speaker 2: been roughed up, like you've been, you know, arrested, I'm

946
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Speaker 2: sure countless times. Is it intimidating to you still or

947
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Speaker 2: you just kind of it's just your day.

948
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Speaker 9: Well, the only thing I get nervous us about is

949
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Speaker 9: that I've had a broken shoulder and it's a bad shoulder.

950
00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:06,920
Speaker 9: It hurts all the time. And that's exactly where they

951
00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:09,080
Speaker 9: take you to arrest you. And if they're going to

952
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Speaker 9: be a very tough way, you know that can have

953
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Speaker 9: a longer term consequences. So that's the thing that makes

954
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Speaker 9: me nervous. I don't get nervous going into congressional offices.

955
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Speaker 9: And I want people listening to know that the vast

956
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Speaker 9: majority of our time we're going into progressional offices to

957
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Speaker 9: have nice meetings, and we want people to come and

958
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Speaker 9: join us and not be afraid that you're going to

959
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Speaker 9: get arrested. And we need more people, so please come

960
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Speaker 9: join us. When we are do thing something about arrests,

961
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Speaker 9: it's usually because we are taking an extra going an

962
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Speaker 9: extra step and challenging them. If it's in a setting

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Speaker 9: where there is a lot of security around, and do

964
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Speaker 9: you think you're going to get roughed up? That yeah,

965
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Speaker 9: that is what makes me nervous. There was a group

966
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Speaker 9: of doctors against genocide that was in Congress last week

967
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Speaker 9: and they were considering maybe risking arrest, but they decided

968
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Speaker 9: it wasn't worth it and had been given warnings that

969
00:51:14,320 --> 00:51:17,319
Speaker 9: they were protesting by walking around in the lobby of

970
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Speaker 9: the Heartbuilding with a couple of them with photos of

971
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Speaker 9: starving children. And when they were given their third warning,

972
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Speaker 9: they started walking out the door and maybe saying something

973
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Speaker 9: like bread not bombs, and seven of the doctors got arrested.

974
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Speaker 9: So the police in the Congress are really ready to

975
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Speaker 9: pounce on people. So we want to make sure that

976
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Speaker 9: people who go with us who don't want to get

977
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Speaker 9: arrested are very much aware of when you are risking

978
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Speaker 9: and when you're not.

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Speaker 2: Medea, how can people help out join up, participate in

980
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Speaker 2: one of your actions.

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Speaker 9: Well, thank you for asking that, because there are so

982
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Speaker 9: many ways that people can and need to participate. If

983
00:52:03,640 --> 00:52:06,120
Speaker 9: you're in the DC area, or can even come here

984
00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:09,160
Speaker 9: for a few days, or take your vacation time or

985
00:52:10,239 --> 00:52:15,240
Speaker 9: your student recess time, come and join us in Washington,

986
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Speaker 9: d C. And we are in the halls of Congress

987
00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:22,799
Speaker 9: every day, definitely Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursdays, which are the

988
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Speaker 9: days that they are in session. And you can sign

989
00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:29,600
Speaker 9: up on the code Pink website under DC Actions to

990
00:52:29,840 --> 00:52:32,839
Speaker 9: learn more about that. But more important for people all

991
00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:36,359
Speaker 9: over the country is to just get involved with Code pink.

992
00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:40,040
Speaker 9: Go to our website. We have very very creative actions

993
00:52:40,080 --> 00:52:43,280
Speaker 9: that we have been coming up with and asking people

994
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Speaker 9: to do. You asked about involvement. I mean, we now

995
00:52:45,719 --> 00:52:49,160
Speaker 9: have so many people involved, and it's the power of

996
00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:53,280
Speaker 9: the people that counteracts the power of APEX. So please

997
00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:56,239
Speaker 9: go to code pink dot org and join us in

998
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Speaker 9: any way that you can. We also have many many chaptors,

999
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Speaker 9: I should say, and so there might be a chapter

1000
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Speaker 9: in your city.

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Speaker 2: Amazing Medea, so much respect for you and it's always

1002
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Speaker 2: an honor to get to talk to you.

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Speaker 3: So thank you so much.

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Speaker 9: Thanks for having me on.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's our pleasure, and thank you guys for watching

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