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Speaker 1: What is going on?

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Speaker 1: John middlecop three and out podcasts That'd be me, That'd

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Speaker 1: be the show. Thanks for listening. We are going to

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Speaker 1: attempt to talk some football today. I actually almost recorded

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Speaker 1: gonna talk about. Regardless, Clearly a lot is going on

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Speaker 1: part of this vacation. We wanted to not we but

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Speaker 1: he makes it happen. Breaks tackles, runskys over. George Kittle,

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Speaker 1: who is probably maybe at this point he's a little older,

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Speaker 1: but he hangs his hat on physicality. There were so

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Speaker 1: many clips of him running guys over in the run game.

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Speaker 1: And George said it like, listen, do I love to

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Speaker 1: get eight catches for one hundred yards and two touchdowns?

431
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Speaker 1: Of course? But if I have one catch for one

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Speaker 1: yard and we run the ball down the throat and

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Speaker 1: win by twenty points, sign me up for that every day.

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Speaker 1: And then you watch Amen Ross Saint Brown, who I

435
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Speaker 1: think was a fourth round pick. Why do guys that

436
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Speaker 1: aren't you know, think about the list of players in

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Speaker 1: this in receiver, George Kittle fifth round pick, Deebo Samuels

438
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Speaker 1: second round pick, am and Ross Ain't Brown fourth round pick,

439
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Speaker 1: Davante Adams' second round pick. Well, Justin Jefferson was a

440
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Speaker 1: first round pick. Think how many receivers were taken over

441
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Speaker 1: and Justin's you know, your prototypical elite outside wide receiver.

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Speaker 1: But those other guys amen ra the reason he ran

443
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Speaker 1: a four to six. But you watch him play like

444
00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:45,320
Speaker 1: who cares, Like his ability to get open, his toughness.

445
00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:48,639
Speaker 1: You watch the background on his family. I maybe I

446
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Speaker 1: knew this, but it definitely like when you're watching it.

447
00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:55,200
Speaker 1: His father talked about him being in the NFL at

448
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Speaker 1: eight years old. He was a former mister Olympia, the

449
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Speaker 1: thing that Arnold Schrzenegger used to win all the time.

450
00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:05,280
Speaker 1: And he's a serious cat. And like I said, physicality

451
00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:09,679
Speaker 1: and seriousness. The best players in the NFL are so

452
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Speaker 1: serious about their craft. Obviously they have fun. I'm watching

453
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Speaker 1: the Celebri tournament and Jason Kelsey and Travis kell that

454
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Speaker 1: tournament is made for those two guys shotgun and beers

455
00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:22,520
Speaker 1: getting wasted, high five and dudes. But when it comes

456
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Speaker 1: to football. I've said this story before, but you know

457
00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:27,639
Speaker 1: before he was dating Taylor Swift. I ran into Travis

458
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Speaker 1: at the golf course and I just kind of introduced myself.

459
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Speaker 1: I didn't want to, like, I wasn't even trying to

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Speaker 1: fan boy. I say, hey, man, I used to work

461
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Speaker 1: for Andy Reid and we started bsing a little bit

462
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Speaker 1: and he's like, yeah, ota starting a couple of weeks.

463
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Speaker 1: This was two years ago. He's like, I can't get wait.

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Speaker 1: I can't wait to get back. I can't wait to

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Speaker 1: get on the practice field. I can't wait to just

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Speaker 1: kind of lock back in for the offseason and the

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Speaker 1: seriousness it takes. I haven't seen the Davante episode yet,

468
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Speaker 1: and listen, I don't I understand Davante wanting to be

469
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Speaker 1: on the Raiders. It's his I think his grandma or grandpa.

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Speaker 1: You know, it was hard for them. They could never

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Speaker 1: travel to Green Bay. It's much closer to where he

472
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Speaker 1: grew up in northern California. He grew up a Raiders fan.

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Speaker 1: I get it. Like at one point in time, when

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Speaker 1: Daniel Jeremiah went to the NFL network, I begged to

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Speaker 1: come back West. And obviously I haven't left since. Man,

476
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Speaker 1: I don't plan on it, but I understand being home.

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Speaker 1: But when you're a professional athlete where you play kind

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Speaker 1: of matters, and you were at Green Bay, and I

479
00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:30,040
Speaker 1: get they low balled him and even if he wanted

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Speaker 1: to leave, But when you demand a trade to the

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Speaker 1: Raiders and then they suck for a couple of years

482
00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:39,679
Speaker 1: and your quarterback play is awful, Like I don't know

483
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Speaker 1: what to tell you. What do you expect Kenny Stable

484
00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:45,240
Speaker 1: right walking through that door. Rich Gannon's like fifty five

485
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Speaker 1: years old. Hell, he might even be older because he

486
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Speaker 1: was older when he won the MVP with Gruden in

487
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Speaker 1: like two thousand or two thousand and one, maybe it

488
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Speaker 1: was two. But here's what I know about Davante. That

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Speaker 1: dude takes shit very, very seriously. I'm close buddies with

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Speaker 1: his personal coach, Keith Williams, who's now the wide receiver

491
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Speaker 1: coach for the Saints. He was our wide receiver coach

492
00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:08,240
Speaker 1: at Fresno State, and they trained for years in the offseason.

493
00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:11,359
Speaker 1: Like these guys don't mess around when it comes to

494
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Speaker 1: working on their craft. And all these guys, George wasn't

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Speaker 1: that productive in college. Davante smaller school ran slow. I

496
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Speaker 1: remember stories when I left the Eagles, Chip Kelly and

497
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Speaker 1: his staff thought the guy was a slug, thought he

498
00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:27,439
Speaker 1: sucked pretty good evaluation their boys and the knock on

499
00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:29,960
Speaker 1: de boat. He was an excellent player in the SEC,

500
00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:32,359
Speaker 1: but he had a lot of injury issues. But Kyle

501
00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:34,600
Speaker 1: and those guys, because they sucked at the time, coached

502
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Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl and were around him and like, I

503
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Speaker 1: think we can use this guy. And when you see

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Speaker 1: these shiny toys like Andy Draftsavior Worthy, he kind of

505
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Speaker 1: knows how to use those guys. And this is my

506
00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:49,480
Speaker 1: thing with Malik Neighbors elite talent, like I'd want them

507
00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:51,479
Speaker 1: on my team. But you look at the Giants, You're like,

508
00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:54,200
Speaker 1: you got a quarterback who's a dink and dunk guy

509
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Speaker 1: who's just not even that good. Like it's kind of

510
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Speaker 1: gonna waste there, you know, ain't really gonna work when

511
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Speaker 1: you ve if to Odell Beckham early on why it

512
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Speaker 1: kind of work? Well, what did Eli do pretty well

513
00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:06,520
Speaker 1: for a good DP ball had a big arm, like

514
00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:09,399
Speaker 1: could push the field, could get him the rock way down,

515
00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:12,480
Speaker 1: you know, on go routes, on posts like they really

516
00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:15,400
Speaker 1: threaten the deep part of the field that ain't them.

517
00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:18,600
Speaker 1: And guys that go over the middle and you get

518
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Speaker 1: the ball to and can break tackles are very valuable.

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00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:23,399
Speaker 1: I don't care if you've got Patrick Mahomes or you

520
00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:26,240
Speaker 1: got Brock Purdy or you got Daniel Jones, because though

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Speaker 1: it's why running backs, like, let's face it, they're kind

522
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Speaker 1: of valuable. What very easy to get them the football

523
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Speaker 1: now value in terms of money and the cap. Obviously

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Speaker 1: we can discuss that all day long. But if I

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Speaker 1: got Kamara, if I got Saquon Barkley, if I got

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Speaker 1: Christian McCaffrey, Nick Chubb before he got hurt, Like, it's

527
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:44,360
Speaker 1: not that difficult even in the passing game to make

528
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Speaker 1: sure the ball's in his hands. And Deebo Samuel most

529
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Speaker 1: of his catches around the line of scrimmage. I'm in

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Speaker 1: Ross Saint Brown works the middle of the field at

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Speaker 1: an elite level. George Kittle like pretty big target within

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Speaker 1: ten yards of the field. Now he's fast, he can

533
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Speaker 1: stretch the field and once the balls in their hand,

534
00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:04,280
Speaker 1: Like most guys are not Cam Chancellor in the NFL anymore,

535
00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:06,800
Speaker 1: and they have to like they can't leave their feet

536
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Speaker 1: to tackle you anymore. And these guys break tackles, And

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Speaker 1: I like tough guys on my team, always have. I

538
00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:15,760
Speaker 1: don't think that's a novel concept. And some people, every

539
00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:17,920
Speaker 1: time a new coach or a new GM gets a job,

540
00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:20,520
Speaker 1: we want tough, physical guys. And then I watched this,

541
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Speaker 1: like I know exactly what a Dan Campbell player looks, like,

542
00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:26,720
Speaker 1: I know exactly what a Kyle Shanahan player looks like

543
00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:30,920
Speaker 1: and guess what those are the winning players? It really are.

544
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Speaker 1: I was thinking about this because last week, if you

545
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Speaker 1: haven't checked it out, we did on the podcast. The

546
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Speaker 1: Mike Commodore interview was fantastic. It was only on the

547
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Speaker 1: podcast because our video kind of got messed up and

548
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Speaker 1: Bobby Bones. But I on Friday, I just did a little,

549
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Speaker 1: you know, little offseason top ten coaches that for me

550
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Speaker 1: not named Andy Reid, and I had Dan Campbell on there,

551
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Speaker 1: and I was thinking about this over the last couple

552
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Speaker 1: of days in Tahoe, swimming around, having some beers. He

553
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Speaker 1: went to the Alliance. He went to the Allons and

554
00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:04,240
Speaker 1: didn't just win like has turned them in to a

555
00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:06,880
Speaker 1: team that you would have to be on drugs not

556
00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:09,000
Speaker 1: to pick them to make the playoffs this year. Their

557
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:12,720
Speaker 1: team is deep, high end players everywhere. If you get

558
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Speaker 1: hired at Ohio State, if you get hired at Oklahoma,

559
00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:18,360
Speaker 1: if you get hired at LSU and you don't win,

560
00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:21,160
Speaker 1: you just suck. But it's why I'm pretty high on

561
00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:24,320
Speaker 1: Lane Kiffin right now. Ole Miss has never had back

562
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Speaker 1: to back double digit win seasons and he just did it.

563
00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:29,040
Speaker 1: And most people are going to pick them to make

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Speaker 1: the playoffs this year. You don't do that at Old Miss.

565
00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:34,320
Speaker 1: That's not what they do. And the NFL is a

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Speaker 1: little different because of the way the draft works. Every

567
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Speaker 1: team has money, every team has the same resources, but

568
00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:45,320
Speaker 1: for whatever reason, certain teams suck way more than others.

569
00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:48,440
Speaker 1: And if Dan Quinn and Adam Peters go to Washington

570
00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:51,640
Speaker 1: and win, like that's more impressive than winning at the

571
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Speaker 1: Eagles or the Cowboys. I'm not talking to the Super Bowl.

572
00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:57,760
Speaker 1: I'm just talking about consistently winning every single year being

573
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Speaker 1: in the playoff hunt. And you do that by drafting

574
00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:04,400
Speaker 1: and picking the right players, because when you get the

575
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:08,600
Speaker 1: right guys, tough guys, physical guys, guys that love football.

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00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:11,960
Speaker 1: One of my big pet peeves around draft time, like

577
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Speaker 1: I is when the media freaks out when these stories

578
00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:19,160
Speaker 1: are like the GM asks them, do you have a

579
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Speaker 1: We don't want ballast, We want you to be all

580
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Speaker 1: in on football. Well, no shit, I'm paying you ten

581
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Speaker 1: twenty thirty million dollars a year. You've ever done a

582
00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:30,360
Speaker 1: job for that much money? I haven't, But if someone

583
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Speaker 1: paid me twenty five million dollars a year to do

584
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Speaker 1: a job, I would probably expect them to think I'm

585
00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:40,120
Speaker 1: gonna spend ninety nine percent of my effort thinking about this.

586
00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:43,320
Speaker 1: I'm not saying you just avoid your family, have no

587
00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:46,680
Speaker 1: other life, but like it takes a little more effort.

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00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:49,080
Speaker 1: Money kind of factors in. If you're working nine to

589
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Speaker 1: five and make fifty thousand dollars a year and check

590
00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:53,080
Speaker 1: in check out, Like, yeah, my expectation is a little

591
00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:56,600
Speaker 1: different for you. So the expectations during the draft, Like

592
00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:59,920
Speaker 1: these guys that are football junkies, it usually works. Most

593
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Speaker 1: of the best players, I mean, think about the best

594
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:05,000
Speaker 1: players last like twenty years. Seems like football is pretty important,

595
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:08,360
Speaker 1: right quarterback or non quarterback. Think about some of the

596
00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:13,080
Speaker 1: best non quarterbacks over the last twenty years, Edried ray

597
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:17,040
Speaker 1: Lewis just go around at different positions, Like yeah, they're

598
00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:19,200
Speaker 1: kind of all in on the sport. It kind of

599
00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:23,880
Speaker 1: means everything to them. And when I watch George Kittle

600
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Speaker 1: or I watch I'm in Ross Saint Brown, like, I know,

601
00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:32,000
Speaker 1: football on their pie chart of life means a lot

602
00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:35,120
Speaker 1: and that's important and that just stands out watching the show.

603
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:38,320
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm in Ross Saint Brown catches two hundred

604
00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:41,600
Speaker 1: and two balls from the jugs machine every single day

605
00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:47,160
Speaker 1: after practice, every single day. It's incredible. So yeah, I

606
00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:50,440
Speaker 1: enjoyed it. I look forward to watching more episodes and

607
00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:54,080
Speaker 1: Peyton Manning and his crew. It is powerful and obviously

608
00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:56,320
Speaker 1: the media has dramatically changed, and that's why a lot

609
00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:59,120
Speaker 1: of media members are are very angry because they're just

610
00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:02,560
Speaker 1: being pushed into relevancy and a lot of these former

611
00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:06,160
Speaker 1: players have gotten involved. It's the pushback on McAfee. It's like,

612
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:09,240
Speaker 1: this just jealousy. He's printing money. He gets all the

613
00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:12,680
Speaker 1: big guests that they would never get, and Peyton Manning

614
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:15,120
Speaker 1: does the same. It's different because he's not like hosting

615
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:17,720
Speaker 1: a radio show or a YouTube show, but his access

616
00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:21,440
Speaker 1: because of that, he's Peyton Manning. Being able to get

617
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Speaker 1: that quarterback last year, being able to get the receivers

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00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:28,640
Speaker 1: is just cool. And it's not like, listen, they're not

619
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Speaker 1: going to give you some crazy players talking shit. DeVante

620
00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:36,360
Speaker 1: did a little bit, but it's just it's very entertaining

621
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Speaker 1: and I enjoyed it. Okay, NFL News a couple of

622
00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:44,080
Speaker 1: little things. I do think Rogers messes with people a

623
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Speaker 1: little bit. And I've always thought if I was a

624
00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:50,320
Speaker 1: super famous player as I got older, I would do

625
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:54,040
Speaker 1: the same I would just say things to create just

626
00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:57,840
Speaker 1: mystery is probably the wrong word, but just fuck with people.

627
00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:01,520
Speaker 1: And he mentioned at the the Tahoe Tournament that he

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Speaker 1: looks forward to playing with DeVante Adams again, and a

629
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Speaker 1: lot of people like, what does that mean? Will it

630
00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:11,239
Speaker 1: just trade for him? I think he just said that

631
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Speaker 1: knowing what that word means, and he's screwing with people.

632
00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:16,279
Speaker 1: I do not believe DeVante Adams is going to be

633
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Speaker 1: on the Jets now. I wouldn't bet my life savings

634
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:23,280
Speaker 1: on it, but I truly believe at this point Rogers

635
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:25,719
Speaker 1: just gonna screw with people. And it's I kind of

636
00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:28,920
Speaker 1: find it entertaining just because when he does that, the

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Speaker 1: avalanche of people trying to guess what he means. What's

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Speaker 1: going on? What would the trade package be? Would they

639
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Speaker 1: trade a couple ones? I haven't even looked at the

640
00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:40,880
Speaker 1: financial ability. Do they even have any room to do that?

641
00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:46,040
Speaker 1: And trust me, I don't think Mark Davis would trade him.

642
00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:49,239
Speaker 1: Like not happening unless DeVonta Adams demanded a trade from

643
00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:52,399
Speaker 1: the Raiders, which their quarterback situation would never be out

644
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:55,040
Speaker 1: of the realm of possibility. But that seems like a

645
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Speaker 1: like it's not going to happen. One thing that's about

646
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Speaker 1: the NFL that I think is way different than the

647
00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:05,400
Speaker 1: other sports is it's obviously in terms of American team sports,

648
00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:08,520
Speaker 1: is there are so many characters, like all, this is

649
00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:12,880
Speaker 1: reality TV. That's what sports is. It's reality television entertainment.

650
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:17,560
Speaker 1: Their game is our entertainment. But the characters in the

651
00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:21,160
Speaker 1: game are the reality TV stars, right, And that's what

652
00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:25,720
Speaker 1: players are. And basketball, for example, their players are really famous,

653
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:30,600
Speaker 1: but the assistant coaches in the NBA are pretty irrelevant

654
00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:34,480
Speaker 1: to the casual fan unless it's a former head coach, right,

655
00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:37,360
Speaker 1: But just a random guy. Unless you're like a nut

656
00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:40,600
Speaker 1: for the team, You're not really gonna know the guys. Yet.

657
00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:44,400
Speaker 1: In football, their characters, they have so many different angles

658
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:47,880
Speaker 1: of their characters. Obviously, the players on the field, the quarterbacks,

659
00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:51,640
Speaker 1: the star defensive players, the wide receivers are big stars.

660
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:56,440
Speaker 1: Head coaches, I would say, are equally as big. I mean,

661
00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:58,840
Speaker 1: the top ten coaches in the NFL, if you just

662
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:02,640
Speaker 1: start rattling off, their games are pretty famous, right, starting

663
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:05,600
Speaker 1: with Big Red in Kansas City, to the Harbab Brothers

664
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Speaker 1: to McVeigh and Kyle. What Laflora is doing, you know,

665
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:11,680
Speaker 1: Belichick and Pete Carroll are not coaching, but I mean,

666
00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:16,600
Speaker 1: these guys are every bit as famous as the players

667
00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:19,400
Speaker 1: in my opinion. I know maybe some would disagree, but

668
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Speaker 1: I don't think it's much more famous, like Bill Belichick,

669
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Speaker 1: but it's always been that way, Bill Parcells, you know,

670
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:29,560
Speaker 1: back to John Madden and Tom Landry. But assistant coaches,

671
00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:33,759
Speaker 1: meaning the coordinators, are pretty big deals too. And when

672
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:36,279
Speaker 1: I was a kid, there were a couple of coordinators

673
00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:39,719
Speaker 1: that clearly stood above the rest, and Monte Kiffin was

674
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:44,400
Speaker 1: one of those guys. And he passed away over the

675
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:49,239
Speaker 1: weekend in Mississippi around his lane and the family. But

676
00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:54,920
Speaker 1: he felt like, I don't know, one of the biggest

677
00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:59,760
Speaker 1: assistant coaches in my lifetime. Pampa two just the defense

678
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:03,239
Speaker 1: that every coach tried to. I mean, think how many

679
00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:06,279
Speaker 1: people not only copied that and used that, how many

680
00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:08,920
Speaker 1: coaches from his staff went on to get jobs, from

681
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Speaker 1: Hern Edwards to Mike Tomlin. I'm trum leaving guys out.

682
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:16,520
Speaker 1: I think Rahiem Morse was there as well in the

683
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Speaker 1: early mid two thousands, but he was a central figure

684
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Speaker 1: on for about a five to six year stretch, easily

685
00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:28,040
Speaker 1: one of the best defenses of my life, and he

686
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:30,279
Speaker 1: was just an elite coach and it just felt like,

687
00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:33,400
Speaker 1: maybe I'm wrong. He was one of those guys. It

688
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:36,600
Speaker 1: was just cool with being a coordinator and whoever got

689
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:38,560
Speaker 1: the job wanted to keep him. And then obviously in

690
00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:42,279
Speaker 1: his latter years, as Lane became a head coach, he

691
00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:44,279
Speaker 1: went on to work for him. And that's cool. I mean,

692
00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:47,520
Speaker 1: I can't even imagine being a football guy and having

693
00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:49,840
Speaker 1: a football son who's also a football guy in the

694
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Speaker 1: coaching profession and getting to work with each other. It's

695
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:55,680
Speaker 1: just something that you know, has to be pretty special.

696
00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:57,879
Speaker 1: And the time with Lane was a little up and down.

697
00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:01,560
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously at us seed didn't go that well,

698
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:06,399
Speaker 1: but just a legendary football figure he really is. And

699
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Speaker 1: I you know, he's one of those guys that I

700
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Speaker 1: don't know if there's a guy in this generation, maybe Fangio,

701
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Speaker 1: but Fango hasn't won a Super Bowl, and I don't

702
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Speaker 1: know if he's known. I mean, he has a specific

703
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Speaker 1: defense he runs. But you know, Dick lebo I would say,

704
00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:27,000
Speaker 1: Monti Kiffin and Dick Lebou when I was growing up

705
00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:29,879
Speaker 1: and coming into my own as a young football guy,

706
00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:33,000
Speaker 1: were just you know, two stalwarts of the profession and

707
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:35,840
Speaker 1: two guys that were really really famous. And part of

708
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Speaker 1: it is they were probably the two best coordinators on

709
00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:41,920
Speaker 1: two of the best teams, which is sweet players, and

710
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:44,800
Speaker 1: when you played them, they were going to rock your world.

711
00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:48,800
Speaker 1: I mean rock your world. That Tampa defense. I remember

712
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:51,160
Speaker 1: being like in high school watching them and being like,

713
00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:53,120
Speaker 1: how do you even gain like ten yards on these guys?

714
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Speaker 1: I mean, if they had any sort of offense, who knows,

715
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Speaker 1: maybe they win like two or three Super Bowls. I mean,

716
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Speaker 1: they were incredible some of those games. I think there

717
00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:02,880
Speaker 1: was an NFC championship game where they played the Eagles

718
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Speaker 1: with Jim Johnson, who was also a really famous defensive

719
00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:09,319
Speaker 1: coordinator also rip. He died a long time ago, though,

720
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:13,800
Speaker 1: and the physicality in those games was a little different

721
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Speaker 1: than today's. Stay in age and just I mean, the

722
00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:20,680
Speaker 1: rules were different and it was it was a war

723
00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:24,680
Speaker 1: zone with football pads and a helmet. The other news

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Speaker 1: I saw today is Jacoby Jones, who was just an

725
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:32,160
Speaker 1: excellent return man, just a playmaker, passed away. I think

726
00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:35,880
Speaker 1: at forty years old, I haven't seen why. But that's

727
00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:38,880
Speaker 1: just terrible news. It really is. So we're losing some

728
00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:43,799
Speaker 1: football guys here, which just sucks. So rest in peace

729
00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:44,720
Speaker 1: to Jacobe Jones.

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Speaker 1: Okay, let's do a couple of quick mailbag questions because

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Speaker 1: we haven't done the mail bag in a little bit,

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Speaker 1: and a lot of you guys sent me questions, So

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Speaker 1: I thought let's hit a couple.

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Speaker 3: Question for the bag.

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Speaker 1: This is from a Goose Charger as a diehard Panthers fan.

752
00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:58,040
Speaker 1: I love and miss Luke so much. If he were

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Speaker 1: to go in a draft today, where do you think

754
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:06,320
Speaker 1: he would go against the likes of other talented defensive ends. Also,

755
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:09,680
Speaker 1: I still think about the one Patriots fan that wanted

756
00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:13,680
Speaker 1: to jump jump ship after one bad season. They've had

757
00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:15,200
Speaker 1: a couple, but I hear you, I mean you don't.

758
00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:17,640
Speaker 1: You don't get to have twenty years a kicking ass

759
00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:19,279
Speaker 1: and then go through some rocky times and be like,

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Speaker 1: I think I'm just gonna pick a new team.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 1: I think if he was in the draft last season,

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Speaker 1: or you know, a couple months ago, because the quarterbacks

764
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Speaker 1: all went, I would say Harball would have taken Alt

765
00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:34,919
Speaker 1: over him.

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00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:38,040
Speaker 3: Quarterbacks went one, two, three.

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Speaker 1: I think the Cardinals would still take Marvin Harrison over him.

768
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Speaker 1: I think the Harbaugh would take the offensive lineman. I

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Speaker 1: think he'd be in the mix with Malik Neighbors at

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Speaker 1: at six. I mean what he went eight in his draft.

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Speaker 1: I don't have his draft in front of me, but

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Speaker 1: I think you could make a very very good case

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Speaker 1: for him going over the league neighbors at six, Luke

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00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:10,360
Speaker 1: Keigley was a special player, and if he didn't have

775
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:13,640
Speaker 1: the concussion issues, I mean, he's just he's an all

776
00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:17,839
Speaker 1: time great linebacker. Like he's just certain guys because of injuries,

777
00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:21,080
Speaker 1: they get derailed, but in their peak it's clear, like

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00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:25,280
Speaker 1: Navarro Bowman was this Now his career was even derailed faster.

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Speaker 3: It's like, yeah, this is one of the better players

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00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:27,319
Speaker 3: I've ever seen.

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Speaker 1: Now part of you know, being a Hall of Fame

782
00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:33,160
Speaker 1: or whatever. And Luke did it longer. But Patrick Willis,

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Speaker 1: It's like, that's as good as it gets right there.

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Speaker 1: Luke Keigley, Patrick Willis erlacker forever. Ray lewis elite, elite player.

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00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:45,480
Speaker 1: Do you think there's a chance this show leads him

786
00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:49,439
Speaker 1: to losing his job? Speaking on Joe Shane, how many

787
00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:53,440
Speaker 1: cringe videos can he let be aired? Players will surely

788
00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:55,520
Speaker 1: get a bad taste in their mouth when thinking about

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00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:58,400
Speaker 1: signing as a free agent while he's still there, knowing

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Speaker 1: how he's compensated talent and having conversations like this with

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Speaker 1: a player that means as much as does to the

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Speaker 1: organization via a phone call. I don't have a problem

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Speaker 1: with him calling Saquon Barkley to let him know their decision,

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Speaker 1: even though it just felt my take earlier in the

795
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:18,520
Speaker 1: podcast was pretty simple. He just kind of feels like

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Speaker 1: a number two. He does not feel like a number one,

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Speaker 1: and ultimately letting Saquon Barkley go, Like I understand, it's

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Speaker 1: a tough decision given their current salary cap structure with

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Speaker 1: Daniel Jones, but they never should have got to that situation.

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Speaker 1: They should have locked Saquon Barkley up two years ago

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Speaker 1: and not done what they did with Daniel Jones. I

802
00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:42,760
Speaker 1: think why he's gonna lose his job If Saquon balls

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Speaker 1: with the Eagles. It's one thing to play well if

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Speaker 1: he had gone to the Cardinals or Seattle or Minnesota

805
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Speaker 1: or just some team that has no connection to the Giants.

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00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:56,400
Speaker 1: To the Philadelphia Eagles, who, let's face it, are just

807
00:43:56,600 --> 00:43:58,719
Speaker 1: gonna be good. How good, I don't know.

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00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:02,200
Speaker 3: But what's their floor? What's the Eagles floor?

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00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:06,040
Speaker 1: I have a hard time seeing them go nine to eight,

810
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:09,160
Speaker 1: So it feels like ten and seven is probably their floor.

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Speaker 1: And he is gonna be a major part of it.

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Speaker 1: And the Giants ain't winning ten games, so you're gonna

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Speaker 1: watch Saquon in Philly balling out how you get fired? Man,

814
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Speaker 1: I think that's the reasons that they get fired, not

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Speaker 1: the videos. I do give him credit, I guess I

816
00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:31,759
Speaker 1: don't because the Giants were forced into this. It wasn't

817
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:36,960
Speaker 1: their choice, right, you don't. The league is very aggressive

818
00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:41,200
Speaker 1: about it's hard to get out of these things, and

819
00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:43,680
Speaker 1: when you've been bad for a while, like obviously you

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Speaker 1: can't like the Niners or the Rams or the Eagles,

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Speaker 1: like they don't have access to those teams because you

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Speaker 1: make the playoffs and they're not part of the umbrella

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Speaker 1: of teams they get access to. I wonder if John

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Speaker 1: Marrow was like, Aah, I wouldn't mind cameras on these guys.

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Speaker 3: See what it looks like.

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Speaker 1: I want to see for myself obviously see it in

827
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Speaker 1: real life, but I don't see everything they do.

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Speaker 3: I want to see it.

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Speaker 1: Is there a chance that happened that John marr gave

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Speaker 1: the go ahead, because like, I kind of want to

831
00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:13,760
Speaker 1: evaluate these guys under a different light. Why is everyone

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Speaker 1: so down on Trevor Lawrence. The Jags were eight and

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Speaker 1: three before he got a high ankle spring and the

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00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:21,600
Speaker 1: injury to his throwing shoulder. After that he played bad,

835
00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:23,680
Speaker 1: but people act like he was horrible the whole season.

836
00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:28,880
Speaker 1: I agree. I think sometimes we go too far, and

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Speaker 1: I think Trevor Lawrence is one of those where he's

838
00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:32,720
Speaker 1: just talked about like a scrub.

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Speaker 3: To Trevor Lawrence sucks, No, he doesn't suck.

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Speaker 1: You would take him over without even thinking, I don't know,

841
00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:49,120
Speaker 1: sixteen seventeen guys with ease. I think the thing where

842
00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:52,120
Speaker 1: people are really critical is to pay him two hundred

843
00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:56,920
Speaker 1: million dollars guaranteed. After that, it's like, that's pretty risky.

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Speaker 1: I understand he was banged up, but my whole thing

845
00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:02,719
Speaker 1: was just couldn't we do this next year? If he

846
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Speaker 1: has a good year, what's he getting next year to ten?

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00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:07,560
Speaker 1: So I like the number would go from two hundred

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Speaker 1: to two fifty. So what was the rush to do it? Now?

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Speaker 3: You're just keeping your fingers crossed.

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Speaker 1: But there is a chance, like what if he just

851
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Speaker 1: plateaus and he's just above average guy? Above average guys.

852
00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:22,239
Speaker 1: You don't want making fifty million dollars to pay that

853
00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:24,839
Speaker 1: type freight. I gotta know he's already making a lot

854
00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:27,880
Speaker 1: of money. He was the number one overall pick, so

855
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:32,239
Speaker 1: he you're right, he is not some scrub the way

856
00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:33,520
Speaker 1: people are acting like.

857
00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:37,680
Speaker 3: I don't even know who compare him to.

858
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:41,319
Speaker 1: But part of it is when you're draft the number

859
00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:42,960
Speaker 1: one overall, the hype that comes with it, and the

860
00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:46,399
Speaker 1: hype on that specific player. He was the most type

861
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:50,840
Speaker 1: prospect in since ainsraw Luck, and this year he's a

862
00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:54,200
Speaker 1: Caleb Williams level prospect. You see with Caleb, like, the

863
00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:58,760
Speaker 1: expectations are just super high. So anything less than thirty

864
00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:02,880
Speaker 1: touchdowns and going to the playoffs feels like a dramatic letdown.

865
00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:07,239
Speaker 3: They like him clearly. I think there's a lot of

866
00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:10,360
Speaker 3: pressure on him this year. I guess, actually, how is

867
00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:12,320
Speaker 3: there any pressure on him? What if he sucks?

868
00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:14,719
Speaker 1: What does it matter? They're not gonna bench him. They

869
00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:17,080
Speaker 1: can't cut him now or anything. Not that you're gonna

870
00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:23,600
Speaker 1: trade him. He's your quarterback. So good question. Someone asked

871
00:47:23,600 --> 00:47:27,080
Speaker 1: me a question that do NFL teams pay insurance on

872
00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:31,680
Speaker 1: their star players big contracts? For example, if McCaffrey has

873
00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:34,640
Speaker 1: a season ending injury, do the forty nine ers get

874
00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:36,680
Speaker 1: compensation back from an insurance company.

875
00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:39,080
Speaker 3: That's a good question that.

876
00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:42,200
Speaker 1: I don't you know, you'd have to the GMS and

877
00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:47,279
Speaker 1: specifically the contract negotiators slash owners. I'm pretty sure there

878
00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:51,680
Speaker 1: are clauses in contracts that when you're on IR, I

879
00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:53,719
Speaker 1: don't have to pay you as much than when you're playing.

880
00:47:53,719 --> 00:47:56,279
Speaker 1: I mean, ultimately, I'm paying you for the games. But

881
00:47:56,320 --> 00:47:58,960
Speaker 1: that's where the guaranteed money kicks in, right, kind of

882
00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:01,880
Speaker 1: protects me against that. But it's also why the injury

883
00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:04,400
Speaker 1: guarantee and non injury guarantee.

884
00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:05,040
Speaker 3: Are a really big deal.

885
00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:07,040
Speaker 1: It's why, you know, in these contracts where they hold

886
00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:08,680
Speaker 1: guys out because they don't want to get him injured,

887
00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:14,480
Speaker 1: because it does immediately click in the money. Yeah, I'm

888
00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:17,440
Speaker 1: not exactly sure how the insurance works. It obviously works

889
00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:20,520
Speaker 1: in other sports, you know, basketball and baseball with these

890
00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:25,239
Speaker 1: enormous guarantees when guys get injured. But I just know

891
00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:28,200
Speaker 1: there are clauses in contracts about missing time and the

892
00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:31,440
Speaker 1: amount that I actually have to pay you relative to

893
00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:33,759
Speaker 1: when you're actually playing, because if you just play in

894
00:48:33,800 --> 00:48:37,520
Speaker 1: your bad whatever. This from Josh curious as to who

895
00:48:37,640 --> 00:48:41,360
Speaker 1: you think might be the biggest underachiever at quarterback going

896
00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:44,439
Speaker 1: back to the two thousands. Some names that come to mind.

897
00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:50,320
Speaker 1: Matt Ryan, MVP, solid team around him, obvious.

898
00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:50,640
Speaker 3: Super Bowl choke.

899
00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:55,560
Speaker 1: Philip Rivers, great player, but five and seven in the playoffs,

900
00:48:56,200 --> 00:48:59,200
Speaker 1: and Peyton Manning regarded as one of the goats but

901
00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:01,360
Speaker 1: barely above five hundred in the playoffs.

902
00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:05,160
Speaker 3: I could not put Peyton Manning in the underachiever. He

903
00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:07,440
Speaker 3: had some games.

904
00:49:07,120 --> 00:49:10,080
Speaker 1: He would like to have back in the playoffs, but

905
00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:11,279
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, he went to four

906
00:49:11,320 --> 00:49:14,920
Speaker 1: Super Bowls, he won I think four or five MVPs,

907
00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:16,960
Speaker 1: and he's easily one of the greatest players of all time.

908
00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:21,440
Speaker 1: So I cannot put Peyton Manning with Matt Ryan and

909
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:25,719
Speaker 1: Philip Rivers. I think Philip Rivers and Matt Ryan would

910
00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:29,279
Speaker 1: be up there, but I would like Matt Ryan, like

911
00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:32,640
Speaker 1: you said, went to a Super Bowl, dominated in that

912
00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:35,319
Speaker 1: Super Bowl till the end, and won an MVP that year.

913
00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:39,640
Speaker 1: That is better than anything Philip Rivers did. In a

914
00:49:39,680 --> 00:49:43,960
Speaker 1: weird way, you could argue Philip rivers career underachieved. I

915
00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:48,560
Speaker 1: will defend Philip Rivers. After Marty Schottenheimer was fired, what

916
00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:53,960
Speaker 1: did the Chargers do constantly cheap coaches? Can you imagine

917
00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:57,360
Speaker 1: if Philip Rivers in his heyday would have had Jim

918
00:49:57,400 --> 00:50:02,280
Speaker 1: Harbaugh running the operation. I don't think we looked Philip

919
00:50:02,360 --> 00:50:06,000
Speaker 1: rivers career as an underachievement. I have a hard time

920
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Speaker 1: with really talented guys that play for shitty coaches. I mean,

921
00:50:10,120 --> 00:50:13,239
Speaker 1: let's call what it is. Let's just let's just be real.

922
00:50:13,520 --> 00:50:16,919
Speaker 1: Anthony Lynn and Mike McCoy pay a lot of years

923
00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:22,080
Speaker 1: under those guys. What should the expectations be when that's

924
00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:24,640
Speaker 1: the case. And I think was it North Turner after

925
00:50:24,760 --> 00:50:29,799
Speaker 1: Marty left? My memory is that correct? So I would

926
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Speaker 1: say Philip rivers career definitely underachieved. But some of it,

927
00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:37,480
Speaker 1: like and listen, I went to I saw Philip Rivers

928
00:50:37,560 --> 00:50:39,919
Speaker 1: play live probably four or five times. He could get

929
00:50:40,080 --> 00:50:45,640
Speaker 1: very interception happy, forcing things. But I think his coaching

930
00:50:45,680 --> 00:50:49,000
Speaker 1: staff was just consistently pretty crappy.

931
00:50:49,120 --> 00:50:50,839
Speaker 3: If he had had the same career.

932
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Speaker 1: And Harbaugh or John Harbaugh or McVeigh or Shanahan or

933
00:50:57,120 --> 00:50:59,520
Speaker 1: one of those guys, or Pete Carroll, you'd be like,

934
00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:03,240
Speaker 1: God should have been better. I just look who coached

935
00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:06,680
Speaker 1: him the majority of his games. Like, those guys aren't

936
00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:09,680
Speaker 1: head coaches. They shouldn't be head coaches, and they'll never

937
00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:13,720
Speaker 1: be head coaches again. It's why like people are critical

938
00:51:13,719 --> 00:51:18,279
Speaker 1: of Justin Herbert. I promise you this, he's gonna be good.

939
00:51:18,600 --> 00:51:21,880
Speaker 1: For Jim Harbaugh, he will be You don't even need

940
00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:26,279
Speaker 1: to guess it's going to work, and it's going to

941
00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:30,360
Speaker 1: work well, I don't care who you are. Peyton Manning

942
00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:33,680
Speaker 1: obviously is a much better player in Philip Rivers. Maybe

943
00:51:33,719 --> 00:51:37,000
Speaker 1: he could overcome average coaches because he essentially can just

944
00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:40,080
Speaker 1: become the offensive coordinator and if you just draft decent

945
00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:41,960
Speaker 1: on defense. I mean, look, when he got to Denver,

946
00:51:42,040 --> 00:51:45,160
Speaker 1: it was on like Donkey Gong and they dominated for

947
00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:47,319
Speaker 1: you know, they would have dominated for four straight years.

948
00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:49,359
Speaker 1: But his arm fell off his fourth year. But that

949
00:51:49,360 --> 00:51:53,240
Speaker 1: team was a juggernaut. Why because they had Peyton Manning

950
00:51:53,640 --> 00:51:55,880
Speaker 1: running the show on offense and their defense was elite.

951
00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:58,840
Speaker 1: They weren't insoptable, but they had a well run operation.

952
00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:01,000
Speaker 1: That was when John Elway picking a ton of good players.

953
00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:03,600
Speaker 1: They were just well run. And I don't think you

954
00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:06,680
Speaker 1: could ever say with the Chargers when Rivers was there, yeah,

955
00:52:06,680 --> 00:52:09,480
Speaker 1: they were well run, Like I just I don't think

956
00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:11,319
Speaker 1: you can say that. So it sounds like I'm defending him,

957
00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:13,920
Speaker 1: because I also think I do think he underachieved, but

958
00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:16,560
Speaker 1: I think there were variables that definitely did not help him.

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Speaker 1: Out the volume,