1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,480 Speaker 1: You're laying on the ground and you kind of just 2 00:00:02,560 --> 00:00:04,920 Speaker 1: give like one of these like they I'll like look 3 00:00:05,000 --> 00:00:06,520 Speaker 1: left or right like this I touched. 4 00:00:06,800 --> 00:00:09,480 Speaker 2: I'm like, go go run it out playing the t 5 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 2: y as I'm running down the sideline. 6 00:00:12,880 --> 00:00:18,040 Speaker 3: That was That was awesome. That was awesome. The Kansas 7 00:00:18,040 --> 00:00:23,239 Speaker 3: City playoff game to come back so unreal. That's I mean, 8 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:25,000 Speaker 3: they still talking about that sid today. 9 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:33,599 Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Jack Doyle Podcast. We were in 10 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:36,280 Speaker 1: the off season edition again and boy do I have 11 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:40,920 Speaker 1: a special guest today, my favorite player, t Y Hilton. 12 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:43,080 Speaker 2: T Y, what's up? Man? Thanks for joining us? 13 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:44,199 Speaker 4: Oh what's up? 14 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:48,320 Speaker 3: Wwjd oh Man, appreciate it. Thanks for having me. Man, 15 00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:52,000 Speaker 3: I'm excited. You know, see Jack behind the camera. Man, 16 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:53,120 Speaker 3: it was awesome. 17 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:57,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, you sound like I had Anthony Gastanza the last time, 18 00:00:57,480 --> 00:00:59,280 Speaker 1: and you sound like him. He's like, yeah, you know, 19 00:00:59,280 --> 00:01:01,600 Speaker 1: I always predict, did you know, Jackie to become a 20 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:04,800 Speaker 1: media personality. Always loved talking in front of a camera. 21 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:08,280 Speaker 1: So so yeah. But the joy I get is getting 22 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:08,960 Speaker 1: to catch up with you. 23 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:09,200 Speaker 2: Man. 24 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 1: This this is gonna be a lot of fun. So 25 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:14,040 Speaker 1: we'll start here to you. You just had a big 26 00:01:14,080 --> 00:01:20,080 Speaker 1: announcement officially retiring from the NFL. Congrats on that, you know, 27 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:21,760 Speaker 1: why did this kind of feel like the right time 28 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:23,640 Speaker 1: for you? And and and kind of just want to 29 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:24,959 Speaker 1: hear what you think about it all. 30 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 3: Oh, man, I appreciate it. It's been a long time coming. 31 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:31,400 Speaker 3: Something I've been wanting to do, just couldn't find the 32 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:34,200 Speaker 3: right time to do it. And like, right now, I 33 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:36,200 Speaker 3: feel like it's the right time because I'm about to 34 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:39,480 Speaker 3: start my next journey, which is coaching high school. So 35 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:43,200 Speaker 3: I wanted to kind of close a chapter on football 36 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:47,000 Speaker 3: and open my new chapter with coaching the kids. So 37 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:50,520 Speaker 3: my career is done. Excited about it. I did everything 38 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:53,800 Speaker 3: I could do, and now was I was coaching these kids, 39 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:57,520 Speaker 3: my kid, And I'm excited. Man, I'm excited. 40 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:01,000 Speaker 1: Well, man, you'll be You'll be how lucky are those 41 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:03,760 Speaker 1: kids because you'll just be so great at it. And 42 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 1: I'm excited to follow the journey of coach t Y 43 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:09,240 Speaker 1: Hilton down there in Miami. 44 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:11,160 Speaker 2: But we'll kind of start here. 45 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 1: To you, you know, I kind of want to you know, 46 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:16,240 Speaker 1: you said, you know, kind of close the chapter on 47 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 1: your playing days, but I kind of want to run through, 48 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:22,880 Speaker 1: you know, your career through football and and because the 49 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 1: things you accomplished, Man, it's hard for me to even 50 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:26,800 Speaker 1: put into words. 51 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:28,919 Speaker 2: You know, Like I said, you're my favorite player. 52 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 1: It was so fun to get a front row seat 53 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:34,760 Speaker 1: to watching you play, so you know, and doing these 54 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:37,360 Speaker 1: you know, different talks with with old teammates and things. 55 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:39,959 Speaker 1: You know, we kind of start with the youth football experience. 56 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 2: You know. 57 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:43,359 Speaker 1: I know you've been very involved with your kids and 58 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 1: coaching them and through their youth experience, but I kind 59 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:47,799 Speaker 1: of want to hear about yours and you know how you. 60 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:49,239 Speaker 2: Fell in love with the game of football. 61 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:52,800 Speaker 1: And you know, I also am curious, like could anyone 62 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:55,600 Speaker 1: ever tackle eight year old t y because I just 63 00:02:55,639 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 1: don't see that happening. 64 00:02:58,560 --> 00:02:59,960 Speaker 4: Man. My journey was fun, man. 65 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:03,880 Speaker 3: Uh. I played played with a lot of a lot 66 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 3: of athletes, a lot of guys that was probably probably 67 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:10,520 Speaker 3: better than me, but it was it was it was 68 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:11,359 Speaker 3: all fun, man. 69 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 4: Just growing up. My dad coached me, so you. 70 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 3: Know, he always kind of gutted me in a in 71 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 3: a in the right direction, the right path, and I 72 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:22,840 Speaker 3: just always grinded, man, And it's something that already stuck 73 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 3: with me. Just continue to get better each and every day, 74 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:28,600 Speaker 3: and that's something I still live bout today. But as 75 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 3: far as tackling eight yo t I know they couldn't 76 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 3: do it. I actually played. I actually started off running back, 77 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 3: then I moved to corner, then I was all over. 78 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 3: So uh it kind of helped me, uh as I 79 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:47,160 Speaker 3: got older, seeing a game different from all perspectives and 80 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 3: it was fun. 81 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 4: It was fun. 82 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 1: I can only well in the best part about UT 83 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 1: and one of my favorite parts is it even as 84 00:03:56,120 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 1: an adult or as a you know, playing for the 85 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 1: Colts as a professional football player, you still played with 86 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 1: the childlike mentality and always had that fun and I 87 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:06,920 Speaker 1: you probably could have been an all you know, an 88 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 1: all pro corner in the NFL. You probably could have 89 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 1: been an all Pro running back in the NFL. Like 90 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:13,040 Speaker 1: you you honestly could have done any of those any 91 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 1: of those positions. So that's probably what you bounced around 92 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:17,960 Speaker 1: so much as a kid. But let's move on to 93 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:21,000 Speaker 1: your time. So you move on to go to FIU 94 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:26,280 Speaker 1: and obviously I went to Western Kentucky. So people might 95 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:30,159 Speaker 1: not know this, but we had some great Sun Belt conference. 96 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:31,480 Speaker 1: They were both in the Sun Belt and now we're 97 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:35,279 Speaker 1: both the Conference USA. But great Sun Belt battles back 98 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:38,320 Speaker 1: in our playing days in college, and I, you know, 99 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:40,480 Speaker 1: I I take a lot of a lot of credit 100 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 1: and claim and and being the first Colts fan, because 101 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:45,920 Speaker 1: you know, I've always been a Colts fan growing up here, 102 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:48,240 Speaker 1: but I was the first Colts fan to really get 103 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:50,360 Speaker 1: the first look at t Y Hilton. That's what I 104 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:53,200 Speaker 1: always claimed, because I'll tell the story of when I 105 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:56,520 Speaker 1: was I was. You know, we're the same high school class, 106 00:04:56,560 --> 00:04:58,800 Speaker 1: but you were playing as a true freshman at FIU. 107 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:01,479 Speaker 1: I was read shirt and we played you guys the 108 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:03,320 Speaker 1: last game of the year and all the red shirt 109 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 1: guys got to travel, so we traveled down to FIU. 110 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 1: We're playing you. Everyone's talking about this guy, t Y Hilton. 111 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 1: I'm like, all right, we get it, get our first 112 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:13,560 Speaker 1: look at him. And in that game, you became the 113 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:16,599 Speaker 1: first f i U one thousand yard receiver. I remember 114 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:19,280 Speaker 1: you almost taking a pup return to the house on us, 115 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:22,960 Speaker 1: and I was like, man, this guy is legit and 116 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:25,240 Speaker 1: it's gonna be a great player for a long time. 117 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:27,839 Speaker 1: So talk a little bit about your your time at 118 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:30,240 Speaker 1: f AU or f I can't say that that's a 119 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:31,240 Speaker 1: curse word to say. 120 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:34,560 Speaker 2: I you and just how that experience was. 121 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 4: Oh, man, experienment it was was that was awesome. 122 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 3: Started with you know, my oldest son who's at Wisconsin 123 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 3: right now, who chose the FIU had started at him. 124 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 3: Started with him, and man just kind of hit the 125 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 3: ground running playing as a true freshman, experiencing the flows 126 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 3: of the game, how fast it became, and just trying 127 00:05:59,960 --> 00:06:03,200 Speaker 3: to learn the college game as well as getting ready 128 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:04,880 Speaker 3: to get out there in the field of playing in 129 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:07,160 Speaker 3: front of fifty thousand, sixty thousand people. 130 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:08,799 Speaker 4: So it was fun. 131 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:11,919 Speaker 3: Man. I enjoyed every bit of it all four years. 132 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:16,480 Speaker 3: Nothing was fun of then being FAU the last game, 133 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:20,600 Speaker 3: well my senior year, finally getting that trophy after losing 134 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 3: three straight years, so that was awesome. Man. 135 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:28,600 Speaker 4: And coach Christaball did a great job with us and 136 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:30,920 Speaker 4: just coaching us and leading us. He's a tremendous leader. 137 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:33,839 Speaker 3: Man. He's doing great things now at University of Miami. 138 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:38,160 Speaker 4: Came to see me at my high school. So he's awesome. 139 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:38,320 Speaker 2: Man. 140 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 3: I love him, man, and everything he did for me 141 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:43,040 Speaker 3: there was was was amazing. 142 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, talk about coach christ of ball. Obviously, you know 143 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:48,240 Speaker 2: a lot of people ever. 144 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:50,800 Speaker 1: Probably listened to this or you know in Indiana and 145 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 1: saw you know, IU versus Miami in the National Championship 146 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 1: and you know, talk about, like you said, his leadership 147 00:06:57,800 --> 00:07:00,560 Speaker 1: and what he's kind of done in Miami if you 148 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:01,040 Speaker 1: don't mind. 149 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, no, man, he's great. 150 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:06,480 Speaker 3: Man. He's he's a players coach, but he's also he'll 151 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:06,919 Speaker 3: get on you. 152 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:08,839 Speaker 4: He'll get on you, and I think that's what a 153 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 4: lot of guys love. Man. 154 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:12,680 Speaker 3: You know, he's one minute, he'll be with the offense, 155 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 3: one many defense, one many special teams. He's just he's 156 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:18,960 Speaker 3: so hands on that you want to play for him 157 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 3: like he's he's just he's just an awesome and great guy. 158 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 3: And he leads, he leaves, and he's really a true leader. 159 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 3: And I think like kids in college, they need that, 160 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:31,080 Speaker 3: you know, whether they're looking for like a father figure 161 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:33,760 Speaker 3: or something like that. Uh, someone to apoint him in 162 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:36,680 Speaker 3: that direction, the right direction, And he's all of those 163 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 3: and I love him. I can't thank him enough. 164 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 2: Yeah. 165 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:44,120 Speaker 1: Okay, so this is probably to another tangent, but you know, 166 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:46,680 Speaker 1: I think I saw Darius Butler put this out first, 167 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 1: but comparing I can't think of the guy number ten 168 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:51,800 Speaker 1: for Miami. 169 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 2: Tony Guy. 170 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:56,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, reminded him of a young t y and it's like, 171 00:07:56,320 --> 00:07:58,680 Speaker 1: you look at the comparison. I mean, you guys are 172 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:02,120 Speaker 1: so similar. How many times have you heard that, uh comparison? 173 00:08:02,840 --> 00:08:03,600 Speaker 4: I heard a lot. 174 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 3: I mean he's kind of similar to me, if you 175 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:13,120 Speaker 3: if you really think about it, Chriseball recruited me and 176 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 3: now he has not a KI and it's kind of 177 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:18,360 Speaker 3: crazy that, you know, we kind of got the same 178 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 3: body tie. We kind of were saying we moved just 179 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 3: alike we electric at the ball in my hands. Uh. 180 00:08:24,760 --> 00:08:26,600 Speaker 3: And I met him a couple of times because I 181 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 3: coached his cousin in optimism this past year, so I 182 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:31,320 Speaker 3: met him, and then when I went to you in practice, 183 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 3: I talked to him a love it. 184 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:33,600 Speaker 2: Uh. 185 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:37,200 Speaker 3: He definitely has a little too ad him, but he's awesome. Man, 186 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:38,880 Speaker 3: He's he's he's one of the kind. 187 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:41,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, well he's got you know, in my opinion, he's 188 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:43,960 Speaker 1: got a long way to go to beat, but yeah 189 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:44,360 Speaker 1: he does. 190 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:44,559 Speaker 4: Man. 191 00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:46,880 Speaker 1: I something he reminds me of you in a way, 192 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:49,600 Speaker 1: just like you always expect him to catch the ball. 193 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:51,600 Speaker 1: It doesn't matter where it's thrown. I think you know, 194 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:55,240 Speaker 1: one of your most under talked about underrated skills was 195 00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:57,559 Speaker 1: how good. Your hands were man and and and Tony 196 00:08:57,640 --> 00:09:00,960 Speaker 1: kind of reminds me of you in that way. But yeah, 197 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:02,920 Speaker 1: here I wrote down some stats for E. T Y 198 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 1: about our time, our battles FIU versus Western Kentucky. Okay, 199 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:10,360 Speaker 1: so these are just games that both of us played in. 200 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:11,439 Speaker 2: Okay. 201 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:14,080 Speaker 1: So, like I said, you were playing as a true 202 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:16,240 Speaker 1: freshman because you're a baller. I had to red shirt 203 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 1: because I showed up weighing two hundred pounds and couldn't 204 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 1: block anybody. So two thousand and nine, FYU beats Western 205 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 1: Kentucky thirty seven twenty t Y has a catch for 206 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:30,480 Speaker 1: thirty one, Jack three for forty one. Twenty ten, FYU 207 00:09:30,520 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 1: wins again twenty eight, twenty one, t Y's got three 208 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:37,200 Speaker 1: catches for thirty six. He's got three rushes for eighteen 209 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 1: in a touch Jack three catches thirty seven in a touchdown. 210 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 1: Twenty eleven, Western Kentucky finally gets gets to beat t 211 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:49,959 Speaker 1: Y Hilton ten to nine. In a defensive struggle. T 212 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:52,600 Speaker 1: Y two catches thirty two Jack with a goose egg. 213 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:57,160 Speaker 1: I must have got locked down by sip and you 214 00:09:57,160 --> 00:09:59,320 Speaker 1: guys had I remember you guys had a cornerback. Our 215 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:01,920 Speaker 1: cornerback we always called Cheeseburger, but I don't think that 216 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:02,600 Speaker 1: was his real name. 217 00:10:02,679 --> 00:10:03,079 Speaker 2: Cheesboro. 218 00:10:06,679 --> 00:10:09,040 Speaker 1: I buzz' got locked down by those guys, but we 219 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:11,400 Speaker 1: got the win. I think our teams fought after the 220 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:13,120 Speaker 1: game on the field, if I remember correctly. 221 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 2: After that game, do you remember that at all? 222 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:23,520 Speaker 4: I remember, No, I don't. What's the linebacker A J Andrew. 223 00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:27,800 Speaker 1: Jackson former for Oh I can't imagine the things that 224 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:32,120 Speaker 1: he said to you in the game. But we had 225 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:33,439 Speaker 1: a lot of fun. But here I got to bring 226 00:10:33,520 --> 00:10:35,280 Speaker 1: up one other college game because this is the game 227 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:38,840 Speaker 1: that kind of puts you on the map. Share you 228 00:10:38,880 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 1: know the story of you going down to Louisville, you 229 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:46,040 Speaker 1: and f IU going down to Louisville and the game 230 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:48,160 Speaker 1: you kind of had down there early in your senior year. 231 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I remember. 232 00:10:52,640 --> 00:10:56,920 Speaker 3: It's funny because I remember the bus ride to Louisville 233 00:10:56,920 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 3: Stadium and when I guys running back Darren Matty, he 234 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 3: knew one of the cornerbacks for Louisville. I can't remember 235 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:11,640 Speaker 3: his name, but and he called him while he was 236 00:11:11,679 --> 00:11:13,760 Speaker 3: on the bus and he was like, hey man, what 237 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:16,840 Speaker 3: do I have You know me? 238 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:18,360 Speaker 4: I just reminded my business. 239 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:20,880 Speaker 3: I have my headphones listening to my music getting ready 240 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:23,400 Speaker 3: for the game, and he was like, what do I 241 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:26,280 Speaker 3: and Matty came over with us, sat next to me. 242 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:29,559 Speaker 3: It was like, hey, uh, you guys want to talk 243 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:32,000 Speaker 3: to you. I'm like, what's up? He was like, you 244 00:11:32,040 --> 00:11:36,280 Speaker 3: ain't getting nothing to day. You ain't getting nothing. I said, 245 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:39,520 Speaker 3: all right, bro, and I moved back. I said, I'm 246 00:11:39,559 --> 00:11:42,760 Speaker 3: listening to I'm in my zhone right now. So, you know, 247 00:11:42,760 --> 00:11:45,400 Speaker 3: imally like when we get to the field, I kind 248 00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:46,800 Speaker 3: of just go in the locker room and just chill. 249 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:49,920 Speaker 3: But I went to the fifty yard line and I 250 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:52,880 Speaker 3: just kind of stood there and. 251 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:55,440 Speaker 4: You know, said my prayer, getting ready. 252 00:11:55,440 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 3: I'm locked in. And then I walked out, walked to 253 00:11:58,280 --> 00:12:00,880 Speaker 3: the locker room getting ready, and I'm crying because. 254 00:12:00,640 --> 00:12:03,679 Speaker 4: I'm like, I'm so locked in, Like yeah. 255 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:05,600 Speaker 3: I just started kind of like why am I crying 256 00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:05,960 Speaker 3: for you? 257 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:09,920 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. So got on the field 258 00:12:10,280 --> 00:12:14,640 Speaker 4: and he hold me up. So they got it. So 259 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:16,560 Speaker 4: they had to pay for everything that he just he 260 00:12:16,760 --> 00:12:19,760 Speaker 4: just said. So they was talking trash the whole game. 261 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:23,240 Speaker 4: Before the game, they was talking trash. Got met us at. 262 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:25,800 Speaker 1: Terns of the game and FIU won twenty four to seventeen. 263 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:29,679 Speaker 1: But yeah, I remember. I mean I was at Western 264 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:32,280 Speaker 1: Kentucky at the time, and you know, obviously we knew 265 00:12:32,320 --> 00:12:34,200 Speaker 1: you from playing against you, but watching you go off 266 00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:36,800 Speaker 1: against Louisville was so cool, you know, for you know 267 00:12:36,920 --> 00:12:39,240 Speaker 1: the smaller schools, and you know when when you see 268 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:42,320 Speaker 1: the smaller schools do great things against you know, you 269 00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:44,079 Speaker 1: know that back then it was the Power five. It 270 00:12:44,440 --> 00:12:47,760 Speaker 1: was always fun for all of us. But hey, we'll 271 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:51,079 Speaker 1: move on to your time with the Colts. Obviously, your 272 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:53,280 Speaker 1: career speaks for itself. I don't need to go through 273 00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:58,040 Speaker 1: all the things you did as a Colt, but there's 274 00:12:58,120 --> 00:13:00,760 Speaker 1: so many, so many great moments. I know it's got 275 00:13:00,760 --> 00:13:02,920 Speaker 1: to be hard for you to pick a favor one, 276 00:13:04,040 --> 00:13:05,760 Speaker 1: but if you don't mind, just highlight some of the 277 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:07,920 Speaker 1: some of the top moments you had in your you know, 278 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:11,120 Speaker 1: what was a ten year career here with the Colts. 279 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:14,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, it is so many. 280 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:21,319 Speaker 3: I remember the Browns game when we came back, uh 281 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:23,840 Speaker 3: and I caught the game winner. 282 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:30,760 Speaker 1: I almost had to play guard that game because we 283 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:35,560 Speaker 1: were at we were at an offensive linement and you're 284 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:37,880 Speaker 1: going in at guard because we can't trust you at 285 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:40,680 Speaker 1: tackle because we're going to because we were, like you said, 286 00:13:40,679 --> 00:13:43,720 Speaker 1: we were down, we're going two minute drill. So thank 287 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:45,640 Speaker 1: goodness that didn't happen and you were able to catch 288 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:46,520 Speaker 1: the game winner. 289 00:13:48,559 --> 00:13:52,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's crazy. Uh that one. 290 00:13:54,040 --> 00:13:56,560 Speaker 4: All of Houston, every everyone in Houston. But I remember 291 00:13:56,600 --> 00:13:58,280 Speaker 4: the one. I remember the one. 292 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:03,920 Speaker 3: Uh uh when I jumped over a dude, I fell out, 293 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:05,760 Speaker 3: I didn't get touched, and I see you running by, 294 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:06,760 Speaker 3: like come on. 295 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:07,719 Speaker 2: Come on. 296 00:14:08,840 --> 00:14:10,800 Speaker 1: That was a great one. I'll never forget that. I 297 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:13,960 Speaker 1: can still picture you, like you jump over guy, you 298 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:16,600 Speaker 1: don't get touched, You're laying on the ground and you 299 00:14:16,679 --> 00:14:18,839 Speaker 1: kind of just give like one of these like b 300 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:21,000 Speaker 1: I'll like look left or right like this I touched. 301 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:25,880 Speaker 2: I'm like, go go running out. They running down the sideline. 302 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:32,600 Speaker 3: That was That was awesome. That was awesome. The Kansas 303 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:37,800 Speaker 3: City playoff game to come back so unreal that. I mean, 304 00:14:37,880 --> 00:14:40,880 Speaker 3: they still talking about that till today, and it's just 305 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:45,200 Speaker 3: it's just crazy that we never gave up. We kept fighting. Uh, 306 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:49,160 Speaker 3: Clawn just kept clawing back, clawing back, and next thing 307 00:14:49,200 --> 00:14:51,360 Speaker 3: you know, we're in a ball game. We're down six, 308 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:57,080 Speaker 3: going in to win the game, and so I split 309 00:14:57,120 --> 00:14:58,760 Speaker 3: the safties on the post and. 310 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:05,160 Speaker 4: Look, let it go. I remember before that play was 311 00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:07,280 Speaker 4: like run run. 312 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:11,640 Speaker 1: It's like, oh, Grad, this one's coming. If Andrew's saying 313 00:15:11,640 --> 00:15:14,040 Speaker 1: that to you, he's like he says like I need 314 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:17,560 Speaker 1: you or like this is it? Like you know, and 315 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:19,360 Speaker 1: it just gives you that extra jol Man. He was 316 00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:22,280 Speaker 1: a great leader. That was That was the loudest. I mean, 317 00:15:22,760 --> 00:15:28,360 Speaker 1: there's two moments when Robert mathis stripped. Yeah in the 318 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:31,040 Speaker 1: game when the Broncos were here and what have I 319 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:34,520 Speaker 1: been thirteen? And then that Kansas City playoff game when 320 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:38,280 Speaker 1: you caught the post. I mean, that's the loudest still 321 00:15:38,280 --> 00:15:39,960 Speaker 1: to this day that I think Lucas Oil has ever 322 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:41,240 Speaker 1: been ever. 323 00:15:41,640 --> 00:15:42,920 Speaker 4: It was rocking. 324 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:46,880 Speaker 1: Oh, it was incredible and just I mean classic t 325 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:51,440 Speaker 1: y t y. Another one that comes to mind the touchdown. 326 00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:54,480 Speaker 1: I believe it is the day your daughter was born. 327 00:15:55,960 --> 00:15:56,920 Speaker 1: I'll never forget. 328 00:15:57,360 --> 00:15:57,720 Speaker 2: Uh. 329 00:15:57,880 --> 00:15:59,600 Speaker 1: You know, we're in the locker room before the game, 330 00:15:59,640 --> 00:16:01,440 Speaker 1: and you know everyone kind of knows, you know, two 331 00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:04,480 Speaker 1: ways at the hospital. You know, like it's ty coming. 332 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 1: You know, Chuck's pacing. You can picture Chuck Bagano pace 333 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 1: in the locker room like, is he coming? 334 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:14,280 Speaker 2: Is he coming? And then you show up. Just go 335 00:16:14,360 --> 00:16:17,520 Speaker 2: out there and ball out. Man. That was a great moment, man. 336 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:21,440 Speaker 3: That that that whole day just was was crazy. 337 00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:24,520 Speaker 4: Man, just being up one in the morning U. 338 00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:29,840 Speaker 3: And couldn't get no sleep, had to leave the hotel 339 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:35,760 Speaker 3: to go to the hospital. Then my wife had my daughter, 340 00:16:35,800 --> 00:16:38,800 Speaker 3: and I'm just you know, hanging with him. 341 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:42,320 Speaker 4: Do I go play? Should I stay? She's like, you 342 00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:46,320 Speaker 4: gotter go play? So so I left. I remember. 343 00:16:46,920 --> 00:16:50,400 Speaker 3: I remember getting to the stadium and Brownie comes with 344 00:16:50,480 --> 00:16:53,000 Speaker 3: my breakfast, meets me at the car, brings my breakfast. 345 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:55,920 Speaker 3: I'm walking in, but I was on the field warming 346 00:16:56,040 --> 00:16:58,880 Speaker 3: up by then going through going through it, and I'm 347 00:16:58,880 --> 00:17:02,280 Speaker 3: in the locker room eating, getting dressed, getting ready, and 348 00:17:02,280 --> 00:17:08,920 Speaker 3: then y'all come back and and then being introduced, and 349 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:11,640 Speaker 3: the whole the whole crowd goes crazy because they didn't 350 00:17:11,680 --> 00:17:13,600 Speaker 3: know if I was there or not, because nobody seen me, 351 00:17:13,720 --> 00:17:17,680 Speaker 3: so going crazy, And uh, this is crazy because I 352 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:19,520 Speaker 3: couldn't go through, you know, such a routine. Guy, I 353 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:23,720 Speaker 3: couldn't go through my routine because it was time to play. 354 00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:28,439 Speaker 3: It's time to play. I remember just having no legs, 355 00:17:28,480 --> 00:17:32,760 Speaker 3: like I can feel my legs just I was tired. 356 00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:38,040 Speaker 4: I was tired, and we called we called double gold 357 00:17:38,040 --> 00:17:38,880 Speaker 4: and it was in cover. 358 00:17:38,800 --> 00:17:43,359 Speaker 3: Too, and I slipped inside and slip took Flinger on 359 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:45,080 Speaker 3: on his. 360 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:46,160 Speaker 4: Goal by the bender. 361 00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:49,120 Speaker 3: And I got back out to the teas and looked back. 362 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:51,919 Speaker 3: I seen that cover too, whole shot, caught it and 363 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:54,879 Speaker 3: referens history taken to the house, got to the end 364 00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:57,960 Speaker 3: zone and rocked the baby the. 365 00:17:59,840 --> 00:18:02,960 Speaker 1: Time moment, man, so cool. Yeah, that probably has to 366 00:18:03,040 --> 00:18:07,000 Speaker 1: be your top obviously personally top moment. And it was 367 00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:09,840 Speaker 1: so cool for me to witness, like I said it 368 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:13,119 Speaker 1: was it was. It was just another reminder and example 369 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:15,800 Speaker 1: of you know, you were my teammate, but you were 370 00:18:15,840 --> 00:18:17,640 Speaker 1: my favorite player, man, so I gotta be a fan 371 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:21,159 Speaker 1: just just watching you play. So yeah, we kind of 372 00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:24,520 Speaker 1: talked about, you know, favorite moments on the field, but 373 00:18:24,600 --> 00:18:28,160 Speaker 1: now officially retiring, what are some of the things you miss, 374 00:18:28,359 --> 00:18:30,080 Speaker 1: you know that people don't see, you know, the things 375 00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:32,720 Speaker 1: kind of behind the scenes. It's like, you know, maybe 376 00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:35,000 Speaker 1: this isn't behind the scene thing, but like I miss 377 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:36,800 Speaker 1: getting in a huddle, like you know, just getting in 378 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:38,840 Speaker 1: a huddle and like looking at the guys and eye 379 00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:41,879 Speaker 1: and like you said, Andrew saying like run run, like 380 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:44,160 Speaker 1: little moments like that or things I miss? 381 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:45,680 Speaker 2: What are what are the some some of the things 382 00:18:45,680 --> 00:18:46,080 Speaker 2: you miss? 383 00:18:47,160 --> 00:18:47,680 Speaker 4: I missed you. 384 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:51,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I miss your buddy. Thank you. 385 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:55,640 Speaker 4: Just uh, you missed the locker room. 386 00:18:56,119 --> 00:19:01,200 Speaker 3: That's one thing I think every retires said that they 387 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:02,800 Speaker 3: missed the locker room. 388 00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:03,880 Speaker 4: Miss the locker room. 389 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:06,679 Speaker 3: I miss walking in the training room seeing you and 390 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:09,840 Speaker 3: then you see me, all right, kind of why go? 391 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:13,600 Speaker 4: So it's kind of you know, it was kind of 392 00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:16,520 Speaker 4: like right after each other. Man, you just miss those moments. 393 00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:19,640 Speaker 3: Man, it's just fun. And then just going out to practice, 394 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:22,960 Speaker 3: talking trash, you know, just having fun ross versus air. 395 00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:28,000 Speaker 4: You just miss it all, man. And you know once 396 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:29,120 Speaker 4: you're done playing, you're done. 397 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:32,800 Speaker 3: So but you missed those moments with with with with 398 00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:35,480 Speaker 3: the guys, man, because you know, you spend you spend 399 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:39,679 Speaker 3: a numerous amount of hours with each other just talking, 400 00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:40,680 Speaker 3: hanging out, having fun. 401 00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:43,600 Speaker 4: But this eating breakfast, eating lunch in the training. 402 00:19:43,359 --> 00:19:48,879 Speaker 3: Room, in meetings, you know, office and meetings, going over 403 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:49,640 Speaker 3: game plans. 404 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:52,320 Speaker 4: You miss all those, man, And you know it don't 405 00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:54,360 Speaker 4: really hit you because you're in it. But then once 406 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:56,159 Speaker 4: you once you leave it and kind of be like. 407 00:19:56,960 --> 00:19:59,720 Speaker 4: One thing I don't miss though, is that training camp. 408 00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:03,399 Speaker 2: Oh it's easy. 409 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:07,399 Speaker 1: Now we can talk like the old guys now like 410 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:09,320 Speaker 1: oh they didn't do they didn't go to Anderson and 411 00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:14,640 Speaker 1: where we were practicing at one o'clock and as hot 412 00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:17,600 Speaker 1: as can be for three hours. But but like you said, man, 413 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:20,040 Speaker 1: there's just like you. There's so it's it's just so 414 00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:23,040 Speaker 1: weird when it stops right, and there's so many things 415 00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:25,440 Speaker 1: you miss, and you spend so much time with with 416 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:27,800 Speaker 1: the guys, and then you know it's it's all over. 417 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:30,080 Speaker 1: And uh so now we get to do stuff like 418 00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:32,520 Speaker 1: this and and reminisce on the days and and and 419 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:34,320 Speaker 1: get a catch up. So that's a lot of fun, 420 00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:36,879 Speaker 1: all right. So I probably I probably know the answer 421 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:38,800 Speaker 1: to this. But you're the best deep ball catcher I've 422 00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:42,600 Speaker 1: ever seen. I tell people that all the time. There's 423 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:45,840 Speaker 1: not a prettier play in sports than watching t Y 424 00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:49,000 Speaker 1: track a deep ball as DB's are falling down trying 425 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:52,240 Speaker 1: to do the same thing and stumbling over, stumbling over themselves, 426 00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:55,520 Speaker 1: and t I just zooms on by and catches a 427 00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:58,719 Speaker 1: deep ball. But what is your favorite route or are 428 00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:02,200 Speaker 1: your favorite concept? You know from back in your playing days. 429 00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:04,240 Speaker 4: My favorite route. 430 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:08,639 Speaker 3: I love, I love, I love wind Decks, which is 431 00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:13,359 Speaker 3: a re route, seem inside like it's cover four, like 432 00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:15,280 Speaker 3: you're going to block the faithy and you just read him. 433 00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:18,000 Speaker 3: If it's cover four, I take the top off and 434 00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:20,600 Speaker 3: if he's cover three of these back deep, I sit 435 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:22,680 Speaker 3: it down at eighteen to twenty and the ball beat 436 00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:26,679 Speaker 3: love dumby coming off the play action. I love the 437 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:31,800 Speaker 3: bench route, the seam seven seem inside, burst up like 438 00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:34,040 Speaker 3: I'm froming a round and go and then with across 439 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:40,520 Speaker 3: the corner's face, and I love I love. We call 440 00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:44,159 Speaker 3: it Jonah, but it's a hinge rop the nine stop 441 00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:47,959 Speaker 3: at nine or ten yards, give him a give him 442 00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:50,560 Speaker 3: a kind of ladies released, like oh yeah, the corner one. 443 00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:52,520 Speaker 3: Then you kind of burst hit it and then he 444 00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:54,040 Speaker 3: kind of takes it off and then you club him 445 00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:56,480 Speaker 3: by and catch easy money. 446 00:21:56,520 --> 00:21:58,679 Speaker 4: So I love those routes. 447 00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:02,560 Speaker 3: Man was three was was my baby man and I 448 00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:07,400 Speaker 3: love it. And my last one was the option route. 449 00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:12,040 Speaker 3: My option can stop. If I'm wrong, then I messed up. 450 00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:14,480 Speaker 3: So if he guards me, then this on me. 451 00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:16,720 Speaker 4: So if he's outside, I'll break you in. If he 452 00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:17,880 Speaker 4: did in side, I break out of. 453 00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:21,520 Speaker 3: His cover two zone kind of wide apart and sit 454 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:22,000 Speaker 3: it down. 455 00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:24,840 Speaker 4: So yeah, easy pitching catches man. 456 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:27,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean Jonah. 457 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:32,840 Speaker 1: It was like third and four, we're calling Jonah, so 458 00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:35,440 Speaker 1: we don't no one knows what to do. Okay, it's 459 00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:37,400 Speaker 1: going to t y. All right, We're good, first down, 460 00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:40,679 Speaker 1: next play. But you brought up the option route. We 461 00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:43,359 Speaker 1: forgot a moment. Remember the game winner you had against 462 00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:47,600 Speaker 1: the Chargers four fourth and three, Well that been sixteen 463 00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:52,840 Speaker 1: sixteen maybe where you ran an option route and took 464 00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:55,800 Speaker 1: it to the house for about seventy to give us 465 00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:56,080 Speaker 1: the win. 466 00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:58,160 Speaker 2: I mean, like I said, it's we could go through 467 00:22:58,280 --> 00:23:00,960 Speaker 2: with you, man, it's endless. 468 00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:02,720 Speaker 1: But let's talk a little bit more about your time 469 00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:04,080 Speaker 1: with the Colts. 470 00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:05,760 Speaker 2: Just talk about what it meant to you. 471 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:08,399 Speaker 1: So you come in, you get you get mentored by 472 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:12,480 Speaker 1: a guy like Reggie Wayne, future Hall of Famer. And 473 00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:14,159 Speaker 1: then when I got a witness, obviously I got to 474 00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:16,399 Speaker 1: see that a little bit. But then to watch you 475 00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:19,960 Speaker 1: mentor guys you know coming through. You know, Dante Moncreef 476 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:22,600 Speaker 1: had a good run with US Chester Rogers, you know, 477 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:26,080 Speaker 1: was I think underappreciated. Chester was a great slot receiver 478 00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:28,399 Speaker 1: for us and a great returner for a long time, 479 00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:32,520 Speaker 1: and then obviously Pitt still being with the team. Just 480 00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:34,000 Speaker 1: talk about what that meant to you, you know, being 481 00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:36,720 Speaker 1: you know, mentored by Reggie and then and then getting 482 00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:38,560 Speaker 1: to pass it down to the younger guys. 483 00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:40,440 Speaker 4: Oh man, it mean everything. 484 00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:45,480 Speaker 3: Uh. I remember him calling me at the draft night, 485 00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:48,800 Speaker 3: you know, welcome to the team. Uh, because you know, 486 00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:53,040 Speaker 3: Vince don't really do that, you know, because they feel 487 00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:55,080 Speaker 3: like that's the guy that's going to replace him. 488 00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:55,840 Speaker 4: You get what I'm saying. 489 00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:59,240 Speaker 3: And for him to reach out talk to me, even 490 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:02,840 Speaker 3: when I got to Indy took me under his wing man. 491 00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:04,120 Speaker 4: He helped me. 492 00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:06,639 Speaker 3: Understand how to watch film, how to break down film, 493 00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:08,760 Speaker 3: how to break down corners, you know what to look 494 00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:11,160 Speaker 3: for when I'm watching film. You get what I'm saying. 495 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:14,440 Speaker 3: So you know these other coverages day run, you know 496 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:15,600 Speaker 3: how to break down coverages. 497 00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:19,040 Speaker 4: You know, he taught me the game man, and. 498 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:20,960 Speaker 3: It was only right that you know, I paid it 499 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:24,560 Speaker 3: for it for the ones that came after me. So 500 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:26,240 Speaker 3: you know, for him to do that, it meant a 501 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:31,760 Speaker 3: lot to me. And he didn't he didn't care about 502 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:34,480 Speaker 3: me coming in there as a rookie trying to take 503 00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:37,960 Speaker 3: as know, it wasn't that. You know, he knew that 504 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:40,240 Speaker 3: I can help him, you know, get open, you know, 505 00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:43,280 Speaker 3: with my speed, you know. And he just helped me understand, 506 00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:46,000 Speaker 3: you know, the little things and rock running how to 507 00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:48,800 Speaker 3: get better at it. So when it was my time 508 00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:53,320 Speaker 3: to pass it down, because I was ready, so and 509 00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:56,600 Speaker 3: he had me ready, and I taught Monkrey, I taught. 510 00:24:56,920 --> 00:24:59,520 Speaker 3: I taught everybody in my receiving room because I knew 511 00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:01,200 Speaker 3: that they could help me get open, just as much 512 00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:03,400 Speaker 3: as I helped Reggie get over. So I just paid 513 00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:05,359 Speaker 3: it forward. And then when Pitt came, I did the 514 00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:07,960 Speaker 3: same with him and all all those guys that I 515 00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:11,679 Speaker 3: had many they hit the ground running, man, and it 516 00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:13,600 Speaker 3: made my job easy just to build a coach gym, 517 00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:15,480 Speaker 3: helping him with the little things, helping him break down 518 00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:19,600 Speaker 3: philm uh you know, and then the key moments, uh, 519 00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:22,280 Speaker 3: it was ready for us. So it was fun, man, 520 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:22,960 Speaker 3: It was fun. 521 00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:24,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, how cool. 522 00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:27,600 Speaker 1: And it just speaks volume to the character of you, 523 00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:29,800 Speaker 1: the character of Reggie. And then he's now you see 524 00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:32,280 Speaker 1: Pitt doing the same thing. You know, Pet, Now Pitt's 525 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:34,800 Speaker 1: the veteran. It let you know, in that receiver room, 526 00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:37,359 Speaker 1: and you know he's doing that because of what you 527 00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:39,200 Speaker 1: did for him. And I just think that's so cool 528 00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:44,560 Speaker 1: and cool for people to hear. So, you know, t Y, 529 00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:47,040 Speaker 1: you're you're a future you know, Ring of Honor member. 530 00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:49,960 Speaker 1: You know, I know you just went into the f 531 00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:52,800 Speaker 1: I U Hall of Fame. Surprised they didn't do it 532 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:56,560 Speaker 1: on your senior night and they waited long. But but 533 00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:59,800 Speaker 1: what would it mean to be, you know, to go 534 00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:02,760 Speaker 1: and Ring of Honor? And and can I get an 535 00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:05,119 Speaker 1: invite when that happens? 536 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:09,520 Speaker 3: Uh, you absolutely can get it. 537 00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:10,320 Speaker 1: Uh. 538 00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:11,480 Speaker 4: It would mean a lot. 539 00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:14,840 Speaker 3: Man. I mean the world, man, just ten years strong, 540 00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:19,840 Speaker 3: giving everything I got. I love the city, man, I 541 00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:24,040 Speaker 3: love everything about it. Man. Mister gave me a chance. 542 00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:29,480 Speaker 3: R I p h his daughters. Man, I love him man, 543 00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:32,560 Speaker 3: And just everything that I was able to do, Man, 544 00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:33,680 Speaker 3: I just wanted to give them all. 545 00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:34,080 Speaker 4: Man. 546 00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:37,000 Speaker 3: And that's that's one thing that I always did each 547 00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:39,120 Speaker 3: and every day was given my all get better each 548 00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:43,120 Speaker 3: and every day, help my teammates. And when it's all 549 00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:46,080 Speaker 3: said and done, man, I just hope that you know 550 00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:49,000 Speaker 3: you appreciate what I did and how I did it. 551 00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:52,600 Speaker 3: I went about it and I just wanted to make 552 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:59,560 Speaker 3: everybody better, everybody proud of me from Miami, Indy and 553 00:26:59,600 --> 00:26:59,960 Speaker 3: that's all. 554 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:00,159 Speaker 4: Man. 555 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:01,639 Speaker 3: I just hope that I made everybody proud. 556 00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:04,640 Speaker 4: But if I'm able to get in there, I love it. 557 00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:09,520 Speaker 3: If not, it is what it is. But we'll see, man, 558 00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:14,840 Speaker 3: we'll see. I'm very appreciated no matter what. But I 559 00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:16,920 Speaker 3: just want them to know that I gave everything I had, 560 00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:20,200 Speaker 3: good or bad, I gave it. 561 00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:21,400 Speaker 4: So hopefully. 562 00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:24,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, well there's no if. In my opinion, you're in, 563 00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:28,640 Speaker 1: So it's just a matter of when when that happens. 564 00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:31,840 Speaker 1: But but well said by U. T. I mean, like 565 00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:34,080 Speaker 1: you said, you did such a great job of getting 566 00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:36,159 Speaker 1: people better around you. You know that was That's what 567 00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:39,280 Speaker 1: I always appreciated about you. You always, you know, just 568 00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:41,280 Speaker 1: a little something here or there. You'd say something to 569 00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:43,800 Speaker 1: me to give me a little confidence. And you know, 570 00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:46,879 Speaker 1: just the attention you took from a defense. That's the 571 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:49,000 Speaker 1: only reason I got opened half the time. I know 572 00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:51,120 Speaker 1: when you know, when you were at the Z position 573 00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:52,879 Speaker 1: and I was playing you know tight end, you know 574 00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:55,080 Speaker 1: that means we're usually on the same side for people 575 00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:55,520 Speaker 1: don't know. 576 00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:58,000 Speaker 2: But I was like, all right, I got a chance 577 00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:00,119 Speaker 2: here because they're gonna be looking at t Y be 578 00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:03,360 Speaker 2: ready for the ball. But man, you're an unbelievable teammate. 579 00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:05,919 Speaker 1: And uh, like I said, it's it's a matter of 580 00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:08,560 Speaker 1: when you're in that ring of honor not I. But 581 00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:10,159 Speaker 1: let's talk about what's next for you, t I. I know, 582 00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:13,560 Speaker 1: I know you're super excited about this. You know you 583 00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:17,159 Speaker 1: you accept the head coaching job at Miami Springs, the 584 00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:19,240 Speaker 1: high school you went to. If I'm not mistake, I'm 585 00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:23,120 Speaker 1: not mistaken. So talk about your excitement level and uh 586 00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:25,320 Speaker 1: and being like I said, coach t. 587 00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:27,960 Speaker 4: Y, I'm very excited. 588 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:31,120 Speaker 3: Man. I've been coaching for about four or five years now. 589 00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:35,879 Speaker 3: I coach two years with my oldest in Zionsville. I 590 00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:40,479 Speaker 3: coached the receivers, and then I also coached my my 591 00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:45,280 Speaker 3: middle son Tie. I coached his Optimus team seventh eighth grade, 592 00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:48,680 Speaker 3: and then I coached him again uh in six So 593 00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:51,080 Speaker 3: I mean I'm ready. 594 00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:51,920 Speaker 4: I'm excited. 595 00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:54,720 Speaker 3: Now I got a head coaching job at Miami Springs, 596 00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:55,760 Speaker 3: my alma model. 597 00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:59,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm excited. It's gonna be fun. 598 00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:02,920 Speaker 3: I learned a lot from a lot of coaches, so 599 00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:06,480 Speaker 3: now it was time for me, uh to start coaching. 600 00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:09,320 Speaker 3: Get back to these these kids before they you know, 601 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:12,280 Speaker 3: some may go off to college, some may not. Some 602 00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:15,920 Speaker 3: and I just want to give them, you know, everything 603 00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:19,160 Speaker 3: that I learned and what helped me and just give 604 00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:22,240 Speaker 3: it back to them. And you know, srun with some 605 00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:26,160 Speaker 3: a lot of a lot of great coaches. But yeah, 606 00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:27,920 Speaker 3: not in the many years I ever thought I would 607 00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:30,000 Speaker 3: be coaching, because you know, I. 608 00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:32,640 Speaker 4: Don't really talk much. You know, I'm more of a 609 00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:36,400 Speaker 4: lead by example type of guy. But I also learned 610 00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:39,200 Speaker 4: with my days that the coach that because. 611 00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:42,560 Speaker 3: Everybody always wanted me to talk the night before or 612 00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:45,440 Speaker 3: you know, I have to walkthrough and I learned that, 613 00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:48,200 Speaker 3: you know, when when I talk, a lot of guys 614 00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:53,280 Speaker 3: listen and they really pay attention. So now it's easy 615 00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:55,240 Speaker 3: for me to come out, go out there. 616 00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:58,880 Speaker 4: And talk to the kids and you know, coach the 617 00:29:58,880 --> 00:29:59,680 Speaker 4: game of football. Man. 618 00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:04,200 Speaker 3: I've been on it my whole life. And I'm excited. Man, 619 00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:07,840 Speaker 3: I've just started coaching these kids ninth grade is tenth, eleven, 620 00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:11,000 Speaker 3: twelve guys us in high school and just help them 621 00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:13,160 Speaker 3: to understand the ins and out of the game, how 622 00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:15,880 Speaker 3: to get better, what to look for in film, how 623 00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:19,680 Speaker 3: to break down film and and this is the moment 624 00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:22,840 Speaker 3: where you really find out, you know, if this is 625 00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:25,040 Speaker 3: something you want to do. So I'm kind of getting 626 00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:28,480 Speaker 3: them in that stage now where you know it's something. 627 00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:29,960 Speaker 4: Am I gonna take this years? 628 00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:32,160 Speaker 3: Because this can change like this can change your life, 629 00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:35,560 Speaker 3: like football can change your life. And also my main 630 00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:38,360 Speaker 3: thing with them is my main thing because I tell 631 00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:42,600 Speaker 3: them right away, hey, school is first, you know, because 632 00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:45,360 Speaker 3: if you look at it, say student athlete, and it's 633 00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:46,000 Speaker 3: what's first? 634 00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:47,320 Speaker 4: Student? It's first. 635 00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:50,000 Speaker 3: So for you to be a play athlete, you got 636 00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:51,240 Speaker 3: to be you got to be a student first. So 637 00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:53,600 Speaker 3: you got to do good in school. And that's my 638 00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:55,960 Speaker 3: main thing with them now. So you know, we got 639 00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:58,480 Speaker 3: to study Hall going and I just study Hall. We 640 00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:01,720 Speaker 3: go to practice. So it's fun. Man, it's fun. I'm 641 00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:04,520 Speaker 3: excited and I can't wait. I can't wait. So right 642 00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:06,440 Speaker 3: now we had a kind of like a dead period 643 00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:09,560 Speaker 3: with no football, so just kind of going through the 644 00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:13,120 Speaker 3: kind of little walkthroughs and stuff Colin Drill, you know, 645 00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:15,880 Speaker 3: the summer workout type stuff, so station. 646 00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:18,920 Speaker 4: So that's fun, man, just bring back the memories. 647 00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:19,160 Speaker 2: You know. 648 00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:21,880 Speaker 4: I'm always out there running around with them, So that's exciting. 649 00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:25,520 Speaker 2: You know, we'll kind of close the podcast with this. Again. 650 00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:28,120 Speaker 1: I appreciate you you doing this and this has been 651 00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:30,680 Speaker 1: so much fun catching up with you. But this is 652 00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:33,280 Speaker 1: you know, Mo was my first guest on the podcast, 653 00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:36,160 Speaker 1: so I always close with this question. I'm very interested 654 00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:39,160 Speaker 1: to hear your answer on it. But how you beating 655 00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:41,560 Speaker 1: Mo one on one in basketball? I know you're a 656 00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:44,240 Speaker 1: great shooter, and I know you would not back down. 657 00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:46,360 Speaker 1: I know you have a strategy of how you're gonna 658 00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:48,520 Speaker 1: do it, So give us your thoughts. 659 00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:54,000 Speaker 3: Okay, it's kind of like this, so so it's kind 660 00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:58,480 Speaker 3: of like Okay, so normally a guard six of guard 661 00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:01,560 Speaker 3: big six of big right, five on five right, So 662 00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:04,800 Speaker 3: what you do? You call it one in five, pick 663 00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:08,360 Speaker 3: and roll right. So I come off the screen, I 664 00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:10,400 Speaker 3: back it back. Now I got one on one with 665 00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:13,120 Speaker 3: me and Moley Cox. Now I have the mismatch, right, 666 00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:15,680 Speaker 3: So now you know I got the mismatch one on one. 667 00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:20,120 Speaker 3: So now Mo, I'm gonna take more. I'm gonna attack 668 00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:23,840 Speaker 3: him one on one, use my speed, use my quickness, 669 00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:26,360 Speaker 3: that's my advantage. And then when I get to the cup, 670 00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:28,920 Speaker 3: I got to use my body. So either Mo is 671 00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:30,640 Speaker 3: gonna go through me to get the I'm gonna get 672 00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:31,520 Speaker 3: a N one. 673 00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:35,120 Speaker 4: Or I'm gonna let up how a more get it 674 00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:37,520 Speaker 4: and block it, or I could just say, you know, 675 00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:41,480 Speaker 4: forget it. You know, I so also a step back. 676 00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:45,800 Speaker 3: Hitting the three because everybody knows I can shoot, so 677 00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:46,240 Speaker 3: so hit it. 678 00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:48,720 Speaker 4: I got many ways to beat him. He only has one, 679 00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:50,880 Speaker 4: so he can only back me down. But if I 680 00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:53,920 Speaker 4: don't miss, he can't get the ball. So let us 681 00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:55,840 Speaker 4: hear t y games over more. 682 00:32:56,040 --> 00:33:01,040 Speaker 1: Sorry, good try, mo, Thanks for trying. It's over. I 683 00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:03,520 Speaker 1: believe every word of that, Tea. That's that's that's a 684 00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:06,080 Speaker 1: great thing about you, and that's why you're gonna be 685 00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:08,720 Speaker 1: such a great leader for those, uh, for those kids 686 00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:10,960 Speaker 1: down in Miami Springs, because man, you talk with so 687 00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:14,440 Speaker 1: much conviction and so much confidence and and and the 688 00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:17,080 Speaker 1: kids are gonna feel that. Man again, te I appreciate 689 00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:20,360 Speaker 1: you doing this. Man, this is so much fun catching up. 690 00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:21,840 Speaker 1: Thanks to everybody out there for listening.