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Speaker 2: Hey, we welcome you into the cross Country Mortgage Campus

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Speaker 2: in Berea. I'm Jason Gibbs Zigura. Not here yet. It's

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Speaker 2: all right. He's efforting. He's been in a million different places.

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Speaker 2: The Browns have terminated the contract of defensive end Obo

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Speaker 2: Okoronquo and signed kicker Andre Schmidt. I'm gonna go with that, Schmitt. Schmidt,

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Speaker 2: say it confidently, Schmidt. Yeah, there we go. Okoronquo joined

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Speaker 2: the Browns as an unrestricted free agent in twenty twenty three.

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Speaker 2: He played in thirty games the past two seasons. Recording

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Speaker 2: fifty two tackles, seven and a half sacks, one forced fumble,

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Speaker 2: one fumble recovery. He's probably one of the most fun

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Speaker 2: people that I've met on this beat and covering this

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Speaker 2: football team over the last three or four years. Just

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Speaker 2: a great spirit, happy, go lucky. He will definitely be missed,

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Speaker 2: especially in that defensive line room. But obo Okoronquo his

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Speaker 2: contract terminated by the Browns and kicker Andre Schmidt will

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Speaker 2: join the team here as we get ready for training camp.

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Speaker 2: Might read something into that as well. Nathan Siggar will

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Speaker 2: break it all down for you coming up in just

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Speaker 2: a few minutes. The nb A draft last night night

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Speaker 2: one brock your biggest takeaway, buddy, because you watched it.

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Speaker 2: I watched from like ten o'clock on.

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Speaker 3: I think the first two picks where you knew what

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Speaker 3: Your your boy from Duke. Maybe a little high for him,

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Speaker 2: I don't know, maybe the NBA draft didn't offer a

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Speaker 2: whole lot where am I looking. What do you doing?

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Speaker 2: Don't switch cameras, Geez Jordan, what are you doing? I

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Speaker 2: didn't think Canipple was the fourth best player in the

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but three Blue Devils in the top ten. You

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Speaker 3: got to be happy about that.

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Speaker 2: I'm happy about it. I wish one or two of

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Speaker 2: them would have come back, but it's his life in

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Speaker 2: the NBA. So, uh, it's now a two night event. Uh, Brock,

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Speaker 3: I'm just gonna watch the Cavs picks, see what we

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Speaker 2: We do have two picks, pick number forty nine and

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Speaker 2: pick number fifty eight. So best wishes to our friends

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Speaker 2: over at at the Cavaliers. We'll see what happens. Maybe

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Speaker 2: edition of the program, as it is every Thursday. We'll

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Speaker 2: get to your questions sometime after two thirty today. Coming

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Speaker 2: back coach Deuce Staley, Nathan and I also going to

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Speaker 2: end Oba Ocoronquo and sign kicker Andre Schmidt. Ocaronquo joins

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Speaker 2: Right now, time to hear from our running back coach,

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Speaker 2: always entertaining his room will be the must see room

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Speaker 4: So what are your impressions of Quinn Shawn here? Early?

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Speaker 4: Been doing good job?

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Speaker 5: Uh, been putting in the time, been asking all the

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Speaker 4: And like go over one day.

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Speaker 5: Well, we're out here in pajamas right now. When we

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Speaker 7: How about dealing old when his PRIs to val great?

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Speaker 6: Geting to see Scott.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, another young player who's been doing an awesome job.

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Speaker 5: Uh. It all starts in the building first, having good

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Speaker 4: He's been awesome, Dizah obviously.

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Speaker 9: Just uh, I mean, what are your thoughts on Nick

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Speaker 4: To spend a lot of time with him, having one year.

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Speaker 4: Why why do you think? Why do you think guys.

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Speaker 5: It's easy. He worked his ass off. For one, he

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Speaker 4: I'm very excited. I mean every day. Uh.

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Speaker 5: As a skill group, we work on quick feed, so

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Speaker 8: So just when you look at Q and Dylan at

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Speaker 4: Are they more similar than different? Now? They're different? Yeah,

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Speaker 5: I mean Dylan is able to go play in the

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Speaker 5: just looking at what we can do with Dylan as

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Speaker 4: So don't think about it.

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Speaker 11: Like that for you as what does it look like

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Speaker 4: That's a great problem to have, a great problem to have.

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Speaker 5: You know when you got guys like that, and let's

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Speaker 2: I said, you had you had obligations, big luminaries, the

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Speaker 6: Hopefully we'll see more.

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Speaker 2: Give so we're talking, we're talking running back room. You

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Speaker 6: back at the beginning when Kevin Stefanski came in, he

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Speaker 6: brought in and the Browns actually paid a pretty decent,

436
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Speaker 6: I think, a pretty decent contract for Andy Janovich who

437
00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:49,080
Speaker 6: came in for those two years and was you know,

438
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Speaker 6: in twenty and twenty one was the fullback for the

439
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Speaker 6: Cleveland Browns. From a stat standpoint, not a whole lot, right.

440
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Speaker 6: I think he had seven touches, four touches actually in

441
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Speaker 6: twenty twenty and five touches in twenty twenty one, so

442
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Speaker 6: it's not like they were giving him the ball. Though

443
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Speaker 6: he did score a touchdown in twenty one on a

444
00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:07,440
Speaker 6: receiving I'm pretty sure he was in the game against Denver.

445
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Speaker 6: May'd been from case Keenum if I'm not mistakeing.

446
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Speaker 2: I believe you have that.

447
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Speaker 6: But getting Troy Harston in here, that's a fullback, that

448
00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:18,320
Speaker 6: is a real full back, and that tells you again

449
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Speaker 6: a little bit about what we're gonna do. And so

450
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Speaker 6: I think you're gonna see more two running back sets

451
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Speaker 6: from the Cleveland Browns. And sometimes it's gonna be Harson,

452
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Speaker 6: who's five eleven, two forty five and just an absolute tank.

453
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Speaker 6: And sometimes it's gonna be you know, Judkins and Samson

454
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Speaker 6: or Ford. I think altogether, Yeah, I love it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean going back to Ford, here's a guy

456
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Speaker 2: that has rushed for close to fourteen hundred yards and

457
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Speaker 2: seven touchdowns in his career. You mentioned eighty one catchers,

458
00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:49,919
Speaker 2: five hundred and forty five yards five touchdowns in his career.

459
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Speaker 2: Also been a weapon on kickoffs. Yeah, I mean over

460
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Speaker 2: a thousand yards in a kickoff yard. I mean he

461
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Speaker 2: he's done a nice job.

462
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Speaker 6: He's a very solid player.

463
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Speaker 2: Yeahr Software, it's a perfect compliment to the two young guys.

464
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Speaker 6: I really think if if going into this draft, I

465
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Speaker 6: think the Browns probably thought they were gonna come out

466
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Speaker 6: of there with once they made the trade. You know,

467
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Speaker 6: Judkins or Travion will call it at that point, right,

468
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Speaker 6: I think you're gonna you thought you were gonna get them,

469
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Speaker 6: and maybe it was gonna be you know, perhaps Nick

470
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Speaker 6: would have been back in that scenario. But I think

471
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Speaker 6: once you drafted too, then you knew all of a sudden,

472
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Speaker 6: hey we're in a pretty good spot here. We're pretty

473
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Speaker 6: We've got now Dylan Samson and Judkins. I just don't

474
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Speaker 6: think they thought that Samson would be there, just like

475
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Speaker 6: they don't. I don't think they thought, you know, Shador

476
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Speaker 6: is gonna be there. And that's why Joe Flacco was

477
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Speaker 6: signed right before. Sure, I really like where, like I said,

478
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Speaker 6: where this team is at what I think that they

479
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Speaker 6: are certainly capable of doing running the football. I think

480
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Speaker 6: we're gonna run it. And I don't think you know

481
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Speaker 6: you're looking at the let's look, let me look at

482
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Speaker 6: what the Browns rushing totals have been the last few years.

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Speaker 6: I think this is a team that's gonna be close

484
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Speaker 6: to eighteen hundred, maybe even more yards rushing when it's

485
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Speaker 6: all said and done this season. I think it's I

486
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Speaker 6: think they're going to I think the only theme that

487
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Speaker 6: would limit this team from being, you know, way high

488
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Speaker 6: on the upside in terms of rushing. So last year,

489
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Speaker 6: the Browns rushed for sixteen hundred yards. In twenty twenty three,

490
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Speaker 6: they ran for two thousand and seventeen yards, and that

491
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Speaker 6: was without that was without Nick Chubb for the majority

492
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Speaker 6: of that season. Right twenty twenty two, they ran for

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Speaker 6: twenty four hundred and ninety yards. Twenty twenty one, the

494
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Speaker 6: Cleveland Browns ran for twenty four hundred and seventy one yards.

495
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Speaker 6: Now this is gonna be a two thousand yard rushing team.

496
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Speaker 6: I'm gonna even go back to two thousand, right, twenty three,

497
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Speaker 6: seventy four.

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Speaker 10: I don't think it is that.

499
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Speaker 6: I really, as long as we can be competitive in games,

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Speaker 6: I think that you're going to rush for Yeah, we

501
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Speaker 6: rushed for sixteen hundred last year. Our average when we

502
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Speaker 6: were going and good Understan Fancy is about twenty four hundred.

503
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Speaker 6: But that's with Nick Chubb. So I think, like I

504
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Speaker 6: think we're gonna be some more twenty to twenty two hundred.

505
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Speaker 2: Have an offensive line that loves loves it. Yes, most

506
00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:13,680
Speaker 2: offensive lines do, but this one excels when you're running.

507
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Speaker 6: I really think we're gonna be between twenty twenty two

508
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Speaker 6: hundred the yards rushing this year that we are gonna be.

509
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Speaker 2: All right, I'm in, I'm all on board.

510
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Speaker 6: Yeah, we're gonna be running that football. We're gonna be

511
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Speaker 6: We're gonna be ready to go.

512
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Speaker 2: Three big questions hard hitting media journalism here. I like

513
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Speaker 2: it regarding the Brons running back room. Number one, The

514
00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:31,640
Speaker 2: biggest question you have about this room just.

515
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Speaker 6: What it's gonna look like like, And not in terms

516
00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:35,199
Speaker 6: of the personnel, but what are the what are the

517
00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:38,440
Speaker 6: splits gonna look like? What is the splits gonna look like?

518
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Speaker 6: Is is it gonna be Judkins?

519
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Speaker 4: You know?

520
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Speaker 6: Is he sixty percent? Is Samson twenty percent? Then four

521
00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:50,359
Speaker 6: to twenty percent? Is it Judkins fifty and Ford thirty

522
00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:53,960
Speaker 6: and Samson twenty this year, what's that workload split gonna

523
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Speaker 6: look like?

524
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Speaker 2: Gotcha?

525
00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:55,800
Speaker 4: Uh?

526
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Speaker 2: You just answered question number two because that was about.

527
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Speaker 6: Beause I don't know the answer.

528
00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:02,800
Speaker 2: Yeah. Uh number three. Can Pierre Strong have a role

529
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Speaker 2: in this room.

530
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Speaker 6: If everybody's healthy? I think that would be very difficult.

531
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Speaker 6: I'd think it would be very difficult if everybody's healthy. Yeah,

532
00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:15,680
Speaker 6: we just don't have you. We're not carrying four tailbacks.

533
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Speaker 2: I don't think so.

534
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Speaker 6: No, There's just not enough room on the roster to

535
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Speaker 6: do it. So I think that'd be very difficult. I

536
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Speaker 6: think obviously with an injury. Sure, and I like Pier.

537
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Speaker 6: I like Pierre a lot. I've always liked them. But

538
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Speaker 6: I think it could be tough. So Pro Football focus

539
00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:31,560
Speaker 6: back to them. Top thirty two running backs ahead of

540
00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:35,439
Speaker 6: the twenty twenty five season. There's a Cleveland Brown that

541
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Speaker 6: makes the list. His name Quinn Sean Judkins.

542
00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:41,760
Speaker 2: Like Judkins just a rookie, which always makes it tricky

543
00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:44,439
Speaker 2: to place the player appropriately ahead of a season. He

544
00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:47,760
Speaker 2: will likely be RB one in Cleveland after earning PFF

545
00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:50,920
Speaker 2: rushing grades of eighty eight point two, eighty three point four,

546
00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:54,720
Speaker 2: and eighty eight point eight in his three seasons of

547
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Speaker 2: college football. All Right, I know you just sat down.

548
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Speaker 2: I got it.

549
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:00,200
Speaker 4: You know what?

550
00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:03,679
Speaker 2: Anything going on? How you feeling? Can we do the

551
00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:04,120
Speaker 2: top ten?

552
00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:07,560
Speaker 6: Yeah? Good, I'm already working on all right, all right.

553
00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:12,240
Speaker 6: Saquon Barkley comes in at number two. Number two, Okay,

554
00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:14,760
Speaker 6: number two.

555
00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:17,560
Speaker 2: Barkley a big reason why Philly are the reigning super

556
00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:20,960
Speaker 2: I don't really know the answer that most runs of

557
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:24,280
Speaker 2: ten yards or more fifty five also led the NFL

558
00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:28,280
Speaker 2: with twenty five hundred rushing yards. I don't know what

559
00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:30,600
Speaker 2: else you'd like him to do, but he's not number

560
00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:32,600
Speaker 2: one on their list.

561
00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:34,200
Speaker 6: B Jeon Robinson.

562
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Speaker 2: He is number three on the list from the Atlanta Falcons.

563
00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:40,720
Speaker 6: Jamiir Gibbs.

564
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Speaker 2: He's number four on the list from the Detroit Football Lions. Okay,

565
00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:51,960
Speaker 2: Christian McCaffrey number seven on the list, Number seven, Christian McCaffrey.

566
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Speaker 2: Derrick Henry, Ladies and Gentlemen, number number one running back. Wow,

567
00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:04,520
Speaker 2: even at thirty one years old. King Henry, deserving of

568
00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:08,240
Speaker 2: this list's number one spot, led the NFL in PFF

569
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Speaker 2: rushing grades in twenty twenty four. Ninety three point five

570
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:14,880
Speaker 2: also boasts the highest PFF rushing grade in a three

571
00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:18,280
Speaker 2: year sample size going back to twenty twenty two. Last season,

572
00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:21,480
Speaker 2: he forced the most mistackles and ripped the second most

573
00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:24,400
Speaker 2: runs of ten yards or more fifty three to say,

574
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Speaker 2: quant's fifty five. Okay, maybe this year will be the

575
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:30,240
Speaker 2: year that he finally slows down, because we've been saying

576
00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:32,600
Speaker 2: it for four years, five years something like that.

577
00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:36,919
Speaker 6: All right, if he's not on the list, it's a

578
00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:40,720
Speaker 6: mistake because he is that good. Chase Brown.

579
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Speaker 2: He's twenty five. What that's right, He's twenty five. Brown

580
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:56,200
Speaker 2: earned a seventy three point eight PFF rushing grade and

581
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Speaker 2: a seventy six point six PFF receiving grade last year

582
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:04,000
Speaker 2: to give him three down value for the Bengals, helped

583
00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:08,640
Speaker 2: him produce the sixteenth highest PFF war mark among running

584
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Speaker 2: backs in twenty twenty four.

585
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Speaker 6: Chase Brown last year English people nine hundred ninety yards rushing,

586
00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:17,760
Speaker 6: seven touchdowns, rushing, three hundred and sixty yards four touchdowns receiving,

587
00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:19,480
Speaker 6: and at the end of the year he was like

588
00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:21,920
Speaker 6: one hundred plus total yards every week. Okay, all right,

589
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:23,840
Speaker 6: so i'll cruss him off. First one you missed though,

590
00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:26,240
Speaker 6: Kyrone Williams.

591
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:32,160
Speaker 2: He is number ten only missed one so far?

592
00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:34,160
Speaker 6: Okay. Josh Jacobs.

593
00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:37,600
Speaker 2: Josh Jacobs is definitely on this list. Where is he

594
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Speaker 2: at number five on this list?

595
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Speaker 4: Okay?

596
00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:50,280
Speaker 2: Seven of your first eight? Correct? James Cook number twelve?

597
00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:56,560
Speaker 2: What outside? James Cook recorded twenty six runs of ten

598
00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:59,920
Speaker 2: ten yards or more, good for fourteenth most in the NFL.

599
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:02,800
Speaker 2: More than twelve hundred yards rushing on the season.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, did he have?

601
00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:03,920
Speaker 1: Like?

602
00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:06,640
Speaker 2: Pretty good? Pretty good?

603
00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:09,720
Speaker 6: He had a lot of touchdowns too, Yeah, James Cook

604
00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:12,880
Speaker 6: last year had one thousand yards and led the NFL

605
00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:15,280
Speaker 6: with sixteen rushing touchdowns, and he averaged five yards of carry.

606
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Speaker 6: What are we talking about?

607
00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:19,080
Speaker 2: Not in the top ten according to pff A, right,

608
00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:19,960
Speaker 2: number twelve.

609
00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:23,840
Speaker 6: Aaron Jones.

610
00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:33,400
Speaker 2: Let see nineteen nineteen. Not on the list. You're missing

611
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Speaker 2: number one, five, number six, number eight, number nine, You're

612
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Speaker 2: missing four? Wait now you're missing three.

613
00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:51,200
Speaker 6: Jonathan Taylor? Uh not not fourteen?

614
00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:53,240
Speaker 2: Wow?

615
00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:56,240
Speaker 6: Okay, so he's fourteenth. I must be I'm trying to

616
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Speaker 6: think I must be missing somebody. Pretty obvious. I would

617
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Speaker 6: bet they have Joe Mixon alfter did last year on there.

618
00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:10,720
Speaker 2: No, not, he's seventeen. You're missing three. I don't know

619
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Speaker 2: how to count number six, number eight, number nine, Devin

620
00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:21,520
Speaker 2: h Chan number nine on the list from the Miami Dolphins.

621
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Speaker 6: Pacheco, No, no, this is a weird list there. I

622
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:30,560
Speaker 6: think they're they're going way down in my mind in

623
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Speaker 6: terms of guys that they're gonna give.

624
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:37,960
Speaker 2: Both number six and number eight are NFC running backs.

625
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:46,640
Speaker 6: Kamara no, Chuba Hubbard no. James Connor.

626
00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:49,680
Speaker 2: James Connor of the Arizona Cardinals is.

627
00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:51,760
Speaker 6: Number eight, and then Bucky Irving.

628
00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:53,520
Speaker 2: Number six from Tampa Bay.

629
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Speaker 6: That is crazy. This list is nuts.

630
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Speaker 2: Kenneth Walker is number eleven, Cook is twelve, Ashton Genty

631
00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:01,880
Speaker 2: is thirteen.

632
00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:06,400
Speaker 6: Ashton genty he hasn't even played yet. Hold on a second.

633
00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:09,560
Speaker 6: Kyn Williams is Kyraen Williams is the most I thought

634
00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:12,040
Speaker 6: they would love it. His most efficient like goal line

635
00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:13,040
Speaker 6: back in the league.

636
00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:16,760
Speaker 2: His rushing grade wasn't all that impressive, but he rushed

637
00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:18,320
Speaker 2: for more than fourteen hundred yards.

638
00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:23,400
Speaker 6: Kyon Williams went for thirteen hundred yards and fourteen touchdowns

639
00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:23,880
Speaker 6: last year.

640
00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:29,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he earned a PFF pass blocking rate above eighty.

641
00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:31,680
Speaker 6: He hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on one second.

642
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:34,800
Speaker 6: This is amazing. What remind me again, what rink was

643
00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:39,720
Speaker 6: Kyen Williams overall number ten. Okay, Kyron Williams finished last

644
00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:42,720
Speaker 6: year eleventh in the AP Offensive Player of the Year voting.

645
00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:47,920
Speaker 6: That's also quarterbacks, receivers, all of it. Yeah, every position.

646
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:54,200
Speaker 6: That's craziness. There you go so interesting. Yeah, I'm surprised.

647
00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:57,120
Speaker 6: I thought Aaron Jones had a pretty solid season last year.

648
00:32:57,240 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 2: Aaron Jones is nineteenth. He did have a good year.

649
00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:05,360
Speaker 6: Aaron Jones had eleven hundred and thirty eight yards, five

650
00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:07,920
Speaker 6: touchdowns and four hundred and eight yards. He had fifteen

651
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:10,080
Speaker 6: hundred and forty six yards from scrimmage in some touchdowns.

652
00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:11,120
Speaker 6: That's not that's pretty good.

653
00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:14,040
Speaker 2: Yeah. Camarrow was number twenty.

654
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Speaker 6: Kamar had had a he had it down here, but

655
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Speaker 6: Mixing didn't mixin have a good year. I was trying

656
00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:21,440
Speaker 6: to go through him my head. I figured they would

657
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:26,160
Speaker 6: love eighty seven point six rushing grade for mixing. Yeah, hey,

658
00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:29,120
Speaker 6: one thousand, sixteen yards, eleven touchdowns. Part of it had

659
00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:31,680
Speaker 6: gets skewed by fantasy I think we're like thinking, you know,

660
00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:34,880
Speaker 6: who were like the most productive fantasy backs. Bucky Irving

661
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:39,480
Speaker 6: obviously was an interesting case study because he had a

662
00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:41,960
Speaker 6: really productive year, but they also had Rashad White there.

663
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:43,880
Speaker 6: They had a few guys there. He ran for eleven

664
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Speaker 6: twenty two and eight touchdowns, So we had fifteen hundred

665
00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:49,120
Speaker 6: and fourteen yards and eight touchdowns and he's six. And

666
00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:50,640
Speaker 6: we had said Aaron Jones was like basically at the

667
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:53,160
Speaker 6: same level. James Cook one is the one that really

668
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:55,800
Speaker 6: surprises me. That one really surprises me.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 2: The final two in their top thirty two Brian Robinson

671
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Speaker 2: from the Common Yeah, and Travis at ten from Jacksonville.

672
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:03,040
Speaker 4: Yeah.

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00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:05,120
Speaker 6: At ten was it looked like he was on a

674
00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:08,920
Speaker 6: more of a trajectory before last year and then they

675
00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:14,279
Speaker 6: got Bigsby. It's interesting, gent I think I think by

676
00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:17,640
Speaker 6: this time next year, when we redo this next year,

677
00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:19,560
Speaker 6: Genti'll be in the top five for sure.

678
00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:21,920
Speaker 2: That's what part guy is as well. Yeah, quinch On,

679
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:24,279
Speaker 2: that'd be great, that'd be fantastic. That would be great.

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Speaker 2: That's a look at the running backroom for Cleveland Brown.

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696
00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:35,080
Speaker 6: this earlier, but the Browns made had a transaction today.

697
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:38,960
Speaker 6: It's the Cleveland Browns waived obo okoronquo, which was I

698
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:41,880
Speaker 6: think a little bit of a surprise, But at the

699
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:45,319
Speaker 6: same time, when you looked at some of the moves

700
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:48,440
Speaker 6: that were made this offseason and you knew the contract status,

701
00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:50,319
Speaker 6: probably not as much of a surprise. Signed a big

702
00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:52,920
Speaker 6: three year, nineteen million dollar deal headed into the twenty

703
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:56,120
Speaker 6: three season. Uh He started five games for the Browns

704
00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:58,360
Speaker 6: over the last two years, seven and a half sacks,

705
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:00,920
Speaker 6: seventeen tackles, for loss. He had career high twelve tackles

706
00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:04,719
Speaker 6: for US that first season twenty twenty three. Last year

707
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:08,960
Speaker 6: just three sacks, five tackles for US. If you look

708
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:11,680
Speaker 6: at the roster and you look at what the Browns

709
00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:16,480
Speaker 6: have done in that room this offseason and the way

710
00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:21,520
Speaker 6: that Isaiah McGuire performed last year, you could see that

711
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:27,480
Speaker 6: perhaps we said there were too many guys for that room.

712
00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:29,359
Speaker 6: You knew it was gonna be Miles Garrett, you knew

713
00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:31,440
Speaker 6: Alex Wright was going to be there. You knew that

714
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:32,960
Speaker 6: Isaiah McGuire was going to be there.

715
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:35,520
Speaker 2: Troy and Tchoyanne, you.

716
00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:39,239
Speaker 6: Bring in a former first rounder, and Joe Tryon, Tryenka,

717
00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:44,120
Speaker 6: Julian Aquara, they signed as well, they liked and then

718
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:46,600
Speaker 6: Cam Thomas number ninet nine, played really well for the

719
00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:49,680
Speaker 6: Cleveland Browns last year. So that's six guys and you

720
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:53,279
Speaker 6: had Obo and there there was seven. And I think

721
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Speaker 6: for Obo, who again great guy. Loved interviewing him, YE

722
00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:00,839
Speaker 6: liked being around him. I think he was very well

723
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:03,160
Speaker 6: liked and respecting locker room. And I'll go back to

724
00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:10,000
Speaker 6: the twenty twenty three season. He suffered a pretty significant

725
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:11,960
Speaker 6: peck injury at the end of the year and played

726
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:16,000
Speaker 6: through it and he will certainly have my respect for that.

727
00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:19,239
Speaker 6: And he was just always great talk to, very good guy,

728
00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:22,160
Speaker 6: and certainly he will be missed. And I think this

729
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:25,640
Speaker 6: just comes down to for the Cleveland Browns, it came

730
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:29,439
Speaker 6: down to dollars and cents and that it is. That's

731
00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:31,360
Speaker 6: kind of the lead at some league at some point.

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00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:31,680
Speaker 4: Right.

733
00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:33,920
Speaker 6: It's a little bit of a business, is that with

734
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:37,719
Speaker 6: Obo Kuranquo cutting him as the Browns did not with

735
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:41,480
Speaker 6: a post June first designation, but legitimately post June first,

736
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:45,000
Speaker 6: they're gonna save, you know, a bunch of money against

737
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:47,880
Speaker 6: the salary cap. And so that's why I think that

738
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:50,799
Speaker 6: they that's why they did it. Obo at this point

739
00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:53,680
Speaker 6: didn't have guaranteed money left and so they were able

740
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:56,000
Speaker 6: to cut him as a late cut candidate who's had

741
00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:57,560
Speaker 6: a bonus that was going to be due i think

742
00:37:57,600 --> 00:37:59,319
Speaker 6: at the end of August. So they're going to save

743
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:03,520
Speaker 6: three point three more million dollars against the cap. And unfortunately,

744
00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:07,840
Speaker 6: I think it's literally just that it was that simple

745
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:08,759
Speaker 6: with him.

746
00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:13,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, it sucks, great guy, great locker room guy. Yeah,

747
00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:17,320
Speaker 2: and I think you need well liked, As you mentioned,

748
00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:21,359
Speaker 2: dollars and cents. You're paying a lot, You're paying a

749
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:23,680
Speaker 2: certain percentage of the guys on this football team a

750
00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:26,239
Speaker 2: lot of money. Yeah, and so you've got to make

751
00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:28,400
Speaker 2: some tough decisions with the rest of the roster to

752
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:31,799
Speaker 2: make sure that you're you know that you have set

753
00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:35,279
Speaker 2: yourself up to make sure that you have salary cap

754
00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:36,760
Speaker 2: space for the entire season.

755
00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:39,040
Speaker 6: So the way that his contract was structured, it's actually

756
00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:41,080
Speaker 6: gonna save the Browns three point three million on the

757
00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:44,440
Speaker 6: salary cap this year and five point four million on

758
00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:48,000
Speaker 6: the salary cap next year. So because they have those

759
00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:50,040
Speaker 6: void years at the end of their contract to space

760
00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:52,680
Speaker 6: things out. So it's actually going to save the Browns

761
00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:56,440
Speaker 6: ultimately over the course of the next two seasons about

762
00:38:56,480 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 6: eight point eight million dollars. So that's that's why it happened.

763
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:02,000
Speaker 6: That's it. That's why. That's why.

764
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Speaker 2: What do you make of Andre Schmidt coming back?

765
00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:10,200
Speaker 6: Uh, I'm a little surprised, to be honest, when the

766
00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:14,680
Speaker 6: Browns let him go the first time, because he was

767
00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:18,760
Speaker 6: let go I want to say, not that long ago.

768
00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:21,000
Speaker 2: Right at the beginning of Mini camp.

769
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Speaker 6: I think, so he was one of the two they

770
00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:28,359
Speaker 6: the Browns waived him on June fourth right before Mini

771
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:34,200
Speaker 6: camp and then re signed him back. So that surprises me.

772
00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:38,640
Speaker 6: I think it would be natural. There are two ways

773
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:40,279
Speaker 6: to look at it. Number One, they just wanted to

774
00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:44,760
Speaker 6: have another camp leg for you know, so the Dustin

775
00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:47,239
Speaker 6: Hopkins hasn't taken every single rep and I think that's

776
00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:49,160
Speaker 6: why he was here. And then the other way you

777
00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:50,600
Speaker 6: could look at it is coming off of, you know,

778
00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:52,960
Speaker 6: last year in which Dustin Hopkins struggled for the first

779
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:56,040
Speaker 6: time in a long time. I mean, he was ninety

780
00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:58,200
Speaker 6: one point seven percent the year before that, ninety percent

781
00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:00,400
Speaker 6: the year before that, eighty eight point two. You know,

782
00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:01,799
Speaker 6: he had a three year run where he was a

783
00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:03,799
Speaker 6: ninety percent kicker in this league. Last year he was

784
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:06,000
Speaker 6: just sixty six point seven, the lowest figure of his career,

785
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:09,080
Speaker 6: never been below seventy nine point four percent and had

786
00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:11,160
Speaker 6: been in the eighties for the majority of his career.

787
00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:14,040
Speaker 6: He had a rough season last year, and so I

788
00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:16,440
Speaker 6: think that, you know, you could look at it as

789
00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:19,319
Speaker 6: is this insurance did something happened in Mini camp Again,

790
00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:22,080
Speaker 6: I wasn't here. I don't know how much kicking there

791
00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:24,760
Speaker 6: would be, But my guess is it's more the former.

792
00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:26,880
Speaker 6: You're just getting a camp lag in here having somebody

793
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:29,320
Speaker 6: that can share some of those duties with the hop.

794
00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:35,239
Speaker 6: But still it's one that at least makes you go hmmm.

795
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:38,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, because you I mean, you've got ninety spots right,

796
00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:40,480
Speaker 2: and this is the time of year where you're kind

797
00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:42,680
Speaker 2: of going through everything with a fine tooth comb post

798
00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:46,319
Speaker 2: mini camp, yep, is there what other positions might I

799
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:49,840
Speaker 2: need to address? Where else can I improve this team

800
00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:51,879
Speaker 2: prior to training camp starting in.

801
00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:53,239
Speaker 4: A few weeks.

802
00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:56,160
Speaker 6: Yeah, and then you bring a kicker in so I

803
00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:59,160
Speaker 6: don't know, just a little bit a little interesting there.

804
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:03,319
Speaker 6: We are doing mailbag Thursday. I'm excited about this, So

805
00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:06,279
Speaker 6: get your questions in to Brown's Daily on Accent on

806
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:08,520
Speaker 6: the YouTube stream. We'll pull questions from there as well.

807
00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:12,040
Speaker 2: Absolutely from Adam Schefter and I had this in our

808
00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:16,640
Speaker 2: around the sports world. There was a vote today down

809
00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:20,399
Speaker 2: in Hamilton County. I call it Northern Kentucky, they call

810
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:24,279
Speaker 2: it Cincinnati. They've agreed to a new deal to modernize

811
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:27,799
Speaker 2: pay Corpse Stadium and keep the Bengals in downtown Cincinnati

812
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:30,880
Speaker 2: through June of twenty thirty six.

813
00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:32,120
Speaker 4: Wow.

814
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:34,520
Speaker 6: So, and that my guess is at that point they

815
00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:36,680
Speaker 6: will be looking for a new stadium. And speaking of

816
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:43,520
Speaker 6: everything approved modell language changed by the state government and

817
00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:46,760
Speaker 6: the Browns, it looks like we are full speed ahead

818
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:49,000
Speaker 6: to brook Park, which is fantastic.

819
00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:52,480
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think we're just waiting on the governor to

820
00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:55,400
Speaker 2: sign off on the budget YEF. I'm correct, Yeah, so

821
00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:58,560
Speaker 2: you know, and he's got to do that by midnight

822
00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:02,960
Speaker 2: on Monday the thirtieth, so you know, at some point

823
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:06,080
Speaker 2: that will hopefully get done and sooner rather than later

824
00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:08,280
Speaker 2: and we can move on with our summer vacation.

825
00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:12,640
Speaker 6: Yeah, and we can, you know, hopefully get if you

826
00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:15,680
Speaker 6: think about the timeline, like you're probably gonna break ground

827
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:20,400
Speaker 6: this year rather than later later this year and really

828
00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:22,640
Speaker 6: start really rolling early twenty.

829
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Speaker 2: Six because when did they break ground in Buffalo? I

830
00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:27,439
Speaker 2: drove by it, by the way. How's it look? It's

831
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:28,880
Speaker 2: pretty impressive.

832
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:33,879
Speaker 6: How long did it takes start to finish? And they're

833
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:35,759
Speaker 6: not no camera, no, they and they have that cool

834
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:42,879
Speaker 6: camera and they're building a stadium in Tennessee I think so. Yeah,

835
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:44,880
Speaker 6: when I was in Nashville, they were building it.

836
00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:49,799
Speaker 2: So they broke round in June fifth of twenty twenty three.

837
00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:55,359
Speaker 2: So it's been two years and a month or give

838
00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:58,600
Speaker 2: or take two and a half two years and half

839
00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:01,799
Speaker 2: a month, and it's not slided open until next year.

840
00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:04,799
Speaker 2: So so I mean that's that's three years.

841
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:06,919
Speaker 6: No, that's about three year. So the Tennessee Titans broke

842
00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:10,560
Speaker 6: ground on their new Nissan Stadium February twenty ninth, twenty

843
00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:14,880
Speaker 6: twenty four. Next it's right next to the existing stadium.

844
00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:17,360
Speaker 6: It's actually pretty cool, and that is expected to be

845
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:20,560
Speaker 6: a go for the twenty twenty seven season. So that's

846
00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:22,520
Speaker 6: that's kind.

847
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:24,680
Speaker 2: Of the Uh yeah, you you need three and a

848
00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:28,760
Speaker 2: half years. Yeah, so if the Brown's in twenty twenty nine.

849
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Speaker 6: The twenty twenty six.

850
00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:36,280
Speaker 2: You'll be right now then, yeah, exactly. So, uh, something

851
00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:38,560
Speaker 2: that obviously bears watching. By the way, I never had

852
00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:41,360
Speaker 2: a problem with Nashville Stadium. I always thought it was

853
00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:43,279
Speaker 2: a good stadium.

854
00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:45,040
Speaker 6: I think it was fine. Not My guess is it

855
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:50,160
Speaker 6: was missing a lot of the amenities that they need

856
00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:54,239
Speaker 6: for you know, modern stadiums in terms of all the

857
00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:56,080
Speaker 6: different suites and.

858
00:43:56,640 --> 00:44:03,520
Speaker 2: Well Inshville's become like Vegas. Yeah, so from attracting conventions

859
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:08,799
Speaker 2: and you know, those kind of major events and not

860
00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:12,600
Speaker 2: having a dome, I mean, giving having a dome now

861
00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:15,799
Speaker 2: helps that.

862
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:17,400
Speaker 6: It helps everything. It helps everything, and I think that

863
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:24,080
Speaker 6: I'm really excited about where this is going to go.

864
00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:25,880
Speaker 6: I think it's great that the state came together, they

865
00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:28,560
Speaker 6: were able to do it, and that now you have

866
00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:33,400
Speaker 6: an opportunity to really, you know, turn this into a

867
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Speaker 6: world class facility for world class fans. And I think

868
00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:39,279
Speaker 6: that's really the bottom line. That's what it's to me,

869
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:41,080
Speaker 6: that's what it's all about. And this is going to

870
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Speaker 6: be a transformative thing for this region. It's going to

871
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Speaker 6: be transformative for Cuyahoga County, which Brook Park happens to

872
00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:51,480
Speaker 6: be still. Last I looked, Yeah, so it's going to

873
00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:53,920
Speaker 6: be I think it's it's very exciting. This is a

874
00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:55,960
Speaker 6: very exciting if you are a Cleveland Browns fan, if

875
00:44:55,960 --> 00:44:58,759
Speaker 6: you're a fan of northeast Ohio, if you want to

876
00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:01,960
Speaker 6: see this region you know have something special.

877
00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:02,719
Speaker 4: You know.

878
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:04,360
Speaker 6: One thing I was thinking about the other day is,

879
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:06,480
Speaker 6: you know, I don't know how you are when you're

880
00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:08,480
Speaker 6: on planes, but I'm always looking for two things when

881
00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:10,000
Speaker 6: I come into a city when I'm on a plane.

882
00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:13,719
Speaker 6: Golf courses, especially if I kind of like know the

883
00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:16,320
Speaker 6: area and I know like which courses are where? Sure,

884
00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:19,000
Speaker 6: and then stadiums, and I think it's very cool. When

885
00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:21,239
Speaker 6: you find to Dallas, you typically go right over.

886
00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:25,200
Speaker 2: At and T. It's the it's the one city. My

887
00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:27,920
Speaker 2: buddies were asking me last night, they go, where haven't

888
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:31,240
Speaker 2: you been? I said, Dallas, we've met. We were supposed

889
00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:33,680
Speaker 2: to go during COVID. COVID, Yeah, and I think there.

890
00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:36,440
Speaker 6: Was one twenty twelve the year before you than twenty twenty,

891
00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:37,719
Speaker 6: and it'll be twenty twenty eight.

892
00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:41,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, see, only one. I mean I've been to cities

893
00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:46,040
Speaker 2: that no longer even have teams. Yeah, Oakland, Saint Louis, Yeah,

894
00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:50,120
Speaker 2: the old Atlanta. Uh what was that dome that was

895
00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:54,480
Speaker 2: a dump, the Georgia Dome, Yeah dump. I was just

896
00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:56,880
Speaker 2: alls old, the Georgia dumb dump.

897
00:45:57,000 --> 00:46:00,960
Speaker 6: Okay, all right, yeah you got one. Well, well the

898
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:02,040
Speaker 6: new ones very nice.

899
00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:02,359
Speaker 1: Yeah.

900
00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:04,960
Speaker 6: But like when you fly into Vegas now you fly right,

901
00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:08,040
Speaker 6: or when you fly into la you go right. You

902
00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:10,040
Speaker 6: see so FI and I think that'll be very cool.

903
00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:14,040
Speaker 6: It'll be with with Huntingdon bank Field, the domed Huntingdon Bankfield.

904
00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:15,960
Speaker 6: You're going to see it every time you fly into Cleveland,

905
00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:17,240
Speaker 6: which will be awesome.

906
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:19,680
Speaker 2: It's it's just really.

907
00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:22,880
Speaker 6: It's exciting, and I know that there's a lot of

908
00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:24,800
Speaker 6: people have feelings one way or the other. But I

909
00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:27,480
Speaker 6: think that once this thing gets moving and everybody kind

910
00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:29,839
Speaker 6: of gets pinded, it's going to be Yeah, it's going

911
00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:32,560
Speaker 6: to be awesome, exactly. I can't wait. I can't wait.

912
00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:34,520
Speaker 6: By the way, NBA draft happened last night.

913
00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:37,759
Speaker 2: I asked Brock what happened because I joined it at

914
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:40,000
Speaker 2: about ten o'clock last night, and I was like, I

915
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:41,080
Speaker 2: don't know any of these people.

916
00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:43,080
Speaker 6: Oh, okay, so I know very little. I think that

917
00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:46,480
Speaker 6: Ace Bailey trying to determine where he got to go

918
00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:49,840
Speaker 6: and wanted to do whatever he was going to do.

919
00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:55,560
Speaker 6: Decline teams, thought he was going to be superstar, wanted

920
00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:57,839
Speaker 6: to go to the Wizards, Pelicans or Nets. I guess

921
00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:02,080
Speaker 6: went to the Jazz and was clearly upset, and there

922
00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:06,439
Speaker 6: was also other people good that were upset. I heard

923
00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:10,680
Speaker 6: the coverage was ridiculously bad. They announced one pick, the

924
00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:14,239
Speaker 6: guy that got drafted. They called him Colin Coward. They

925
00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:17,440
Speaker 6: had wrong names. I did wrong teams.

926
00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:23,960
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say this. I'm gonna say this. Then you

927
00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:27,400
Speaker 2: know you've already been traded. Your rights have been traded.

928
00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:30,920
Speaker 2: Why am I taking a picture with the hat on

929
00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:32,480
Speaker 2: of the team that just traded me.

930
00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:33,839
Speaker 6: Well, they did a lot of that wrong.

931
00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:37,440
Speaker 2: Pelt went off last night on ESPN, and rightfully so.

932
00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:42,000
Speaker 2: It was stupidity at its finest. I'm like, what are

933
00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:42,600
Speaker 2: we doing?

934
00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:45,359
Speaker 6: I don't know, there is some just.

935
00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:48,480
Speaker 2: Take a picture with the new hat. Nope, we can't.

936
00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:52,799
Speaker 2: It's not in effect till July first. Okay, then move

937
00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:54,680
Speaker 2: the draft to after July first.

938
00:47:55,800 --> 00:47:58,320
Speaker 6: Cedric Coward. Yeah, they call that guy Colin Coward.

939
00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:00,920
Speaker 2: Perfect.

940
00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:05,239
Speaker 6: By the way, I like the U. The Magic got

941
00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:09,239
Speaker 6: another three point shooter from Michigan State Jace Richardson. Who

942
00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:15,319
Speaker 6: can shoot the ball. Let's go, Paulo your boy. He's

943
00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:15,799
Speaker 6: a Duke guy.

944
00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:18,040
Speaker 2: He is a due.

945
00:48:18,680 --> 00:48:19,480
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna.

946
00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:22,040
Speaker 2: I don't know if I say this or not. The

947
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:26,160
Speaker 2: big from Duke. They came out early after his freshman

948
00:48:26,239 --> 00:48:30,560
Speaker 2: year here this year. Yeah, Flag, not Knipple, the other

949
00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:36,520
Speaker 2: the other big. For whatever reason, I'm sitting extra Brock

950
00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:39,640
Speaker 2: and I'm going I'm reading the name out loud. I

951
00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:42,440
Speaker 2: totally butchered the name. Okay. And he looks at me,

952
00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:45,560
Speaker 2: he goes, and you call yourself a Duke fan. Wow?

953
00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:49,720
Speaker 2: And I go, I'll be honest with fair enough reading

954
00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:53,960
Speaker 2: reading the spelling, I don't know what. I watch him,

955
00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:56,880
Speaker 2: I watch him play. He's got the upside.

956
00:48:57,280 --> 00:49:00,839
Speaker 6: Just give me the spelling common malu wak k h oh,

957
00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:02,440
Speaker 6: you give me the pronunciation. I let's see what I

958
00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:07,799
Speaker 6: would say, k h A m A n common. Yeah,

959
00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:10,480
Speaker 6: I could see that. Looks like shaman common m A

960
00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:14,680
Speaker 6: l u a c h. I had the common right

961
00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:19,600
Speaker 6: malawak malawak. Yet I might have been closer with any.

962
00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:22,120
Speaker 2: What did you have? Not any?

963
00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:23,360
Speaker 4: And he was not.

964
00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:26,719
Speaker 2: He goes, you're a Duke fan, and I'm like, yeah,

965
00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:28,120
Speaker 2: I just I watch him.

966
00:49:28,239 --> 00:49:28,680
Speaker 10: I know.

967
00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:32,319
Speaker 2: It's a it's a long name. That's it's not even

968
00:49:32,360 --> 00:49:34,600
Speaker 2: a long name. I can't even make that excuse that.

969
00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:36,160
Speaker 2: Don't worry about it. Give it. Don't be hard on yourself.

970
00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:38,640
Speaker 2: I think I think he's I think he's super talented.

971
00:49:38,719 --> 00:49:40,359
Speaker 2: He should have come back to do for another year,

972
00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:45,120
Speaker 2: but he went number seven, so what the hell? Pretty well, yeah,

973
00:49:45,120 --> 00:49:46,640
Speaker 2: all right, he went ten. Sorry.

974
00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:49,160
Speaker 6: When we come back, we were going to talk with

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00:49:49,239 --> 00:49:52,879
Speaker 6: Lance Riesland brownsfilm analysts for Cleveland dot Com and current

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00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:55,040
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993
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Speaker 6: for Cleveland dot Com and caoball current football analysts. First

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995
00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:07,160
Speaker 6: Keep it twisted, Cleveland, Lance, How are you today?

996
00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:09,560
Speaker 10: Nathan I'm doing well. How are you, my friend?

997
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:11,840
Speaker 6: Good? Thanks for being with us here day. I know

998
00:51:11,840 --> 00:51:13,560
Speaker 6: you've done a lot of great video breakdowns of our

999
00:51:13,600 --> 00:51:15,920
Speaker 6: rookie class Browns Mini camp all of that, let's talk

1000
00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:17,960
Speaker 6: about Let's just start with the news of the day.

1001
00:51:18,719 --> 00:51:21,919
Speaker 6: Obo Okoronquo released going into his third year. Obviously gonna

1002
00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:24,360
Speaker 6: say the Brown's about eight eight and a half million

1003
00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:28,200
Speaker 6: over the next two seasons in cap money. Were you

1004
00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:29,480
Speaker 6: surprised by that?

1005
00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:32,040
Speaker 10: I was not, And here's why.

1006
00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:33,880
Speaker 7: You know, it kind of tells me what the Browns

1007
00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:37,239
Speaker 7: are trying to move to completely on the defensive line.

1008
00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:38,799
Speaker 7: If you look at Obo, for me, I thought he

1009
00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:41,120
Speaker 7: was great. I thought he practices really hard. I thought

1010
00:51:41,120 --> 00:51:42,400
Speaker 7: he did a lot of things really well. But he

1011
00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:44,480
Speaker 7: is kind of a one trick pony, right. He's not

1012
00:51:44,520 --> 00:51:47,160
Speaker 7: a real heavy guy. He struggles against the ron, he struggles.

1013
00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:47,480
Speaker 10: Set in the edge.

1014
00:51:47,520 --> 00:51:49,040
Speaker 7: And if you look at you know, the addition of

1015
00:51:49,160 --> 00:51:51,200
Speaker 7: Troy and Shanko, who I think is going to be outstanding.

1016
00:51:51,239 --> 00:51:53,520
Speaker 7: He just did too much with Tampa. He was all

1017
00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:55,880
Speaker 7: over the place. He played up, he played down. But

1018
00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:58,160
Speaker 7: more importantly, I think they're really high on both Alex

1019
00:51:58,280 --> 00:52:02,280
Speaker 7: right and right two guys who kind of fit that mold,

1020
00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:04,680
Speaker 7: long arms, long body, can move down to that three

1021
00:52:04,719 --> 00:52:07,200
Speaker 7: technique if they need them to. Guys who can set

1022
00:52:07,239 --> 00:52:09,520
Speaker 7: the edge and kind of fits that, you know, that

1023
00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:12,879
Speaker 7: mentality that Jim Schwartz wants with that defense, right, Guys

1024
00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:15,319
Speaker 7: who are positioning, flexible, guys who can play both run

1025
00:52:15,320 --> 00:52:17,080
Speaker 7: and pass. Guys who can get on the edge and

1026
00:52:17,120 --> 00:52:20,000
Speaker 7: go get in the b gaps gap. So it wasn't

1027
00:52:20,040 --> 00:52:22,200
Speaker 7: surprising to me just because he's light and he doesn't

1028
00:52:22,239 --> 00:52:24,000
Speaker 7: kind of fit that body mold that they want, not

1029
00:52:24,080 --> 00:52:25,480
Speaker 7: right now with that defensive line.

1030
00:52:26,320 --> 00:52:28,160
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's a room that still I think has some

1031
00:52:28,200 --> 00:52:30,160
Speaker 6: good competition on the back ends. I know they like

1032
00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:32,399
Speaker 6: Aquara and then cam Thomas I thought played very well

1033
00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:34,359
Speaker 6: for the Browns last year as well. As you're trying

1034
00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:38,120
Speaker 6: to whittle that down maybe to five guys behind Garrett

1035
00:52:38,160 --> 00:52:41,840
Speaker 6: you know McGuire, Alex right and then Joe Tryon Shoyinka.

1036
00:52:43,120 --> 00:52:45,000
Speaker 7: Yeah, you know, all those guys fit the mold. Watch

1037
00:52:45,040 --> 00:52:46,560
Speaker 7: him out of the practice. The thing that sticks out

1038
00:52:46,560 --> 00:52:48,800
Speaker 7: to me is, first of all, the attention to detail

1039
00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:51,440
Speaker 7: with Jacques here in terms of getting.

1040
00:52:51,160 --> 00:52:51,760
Speaker 10: Off the football.

1041
00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:54,160
Speaker 7: They every day they're working on getting off the football.

1042
00:52:54,160 --> 00:52:56,600
Speaker 7: Those guys are coached really hard. I think they really

1043
00:52:56,640 --> 00:53:00,120
Speaker 7: have good feet, they have great balance, and some of

1044
00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:01,839
Speaker 7: the guys they have on the interior, guys that are

1045
00:53:01,840 --> 00:53:04,000
Speaker 7: gonna get better because they're gonna get better with the

1046
00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:05,799
Speaker 7: pads on. Some guys go up, you know that some

1047
00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:08,480
Speaker 7: guys go down. Those guys play with great balance inside.

1048
00:53:08,520 --> 00:53:11,440
Speaker 7: You got Shelby Harris, you got Graham. I think Malie

1049
00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:14,480
Speaker 7: Collins is a super underrated kind of pick up for them,

1050
00:53:14,480 --> 00:53:16,560
Speaker 7: but that kind of again the guys who matched that

1051
00:53:16,680 --> 00:53:18,680
Speaker 7: kind of mold they have for that defensive line, guys

1052
00:53:18,719 --> 00:53:21,680
Speaker 7: who are one gap, guys who get upfield, and if

1053
00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:24,000
Speaker 7: they can do that, that kind of protects those linebackers

1054
00:53:24,040 --> 00:53:25,759
Speaker 7: a little bit, especially with the loss of Joka, and

1055
00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:27,520
Speaker 7: they and then those guys can clean up. And those

1056
00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:29,959
Speaker 7: guys were very impressive me in terms of their lengths

1057
00:53:30,200 --> 00:53:32,160
Speaker 7: and their ability to cover ground this camp as well.

1058
00:53:33,880 --> 00:53:36,759
Speaker 6: You mentioned the interior, and I think obviously that was

1059
00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:40,800
Speaker 6: something that the Browns attacked pretty hard this offseason. Dalvin Thompson,

1060
00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:43,719
Speaker 6: so I thought, played well for the Browns, but they

1061
00:53:43,719 --> 00:53:45,439
Speaker 6: want to get more upfield, so they bring him MALIEK.

1062
00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:48,080
Speaker 6: Collins as a professional, you know, quarter pass rusher from

1063
00:53:48,120 --> 00:53:52,160
Speaker 6: the interior. You draft Mason Graham fifth overall in this draft,

1064
00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:54,080
Speaker 6: and then on the guy who I thought was very

1065
00:53:54,080 --> 00:53:55,759
Speaker 6: good once you had him on the field last year,

1066
00:53:55,760 --> 00:53:57,319
Speaker 6: and we'll be excited to get a back drink camp

1067
00:53:57,640 --> 00:53:59,759
Speaker 6: Mike Hall Junior that this has the makings I think

1068
00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:01,719
Speaker 6: of a of a very good room. Not to mention

1069
00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:05,000
Speaker 6: Briggs and Shelby Harris there. What have you seen from

1070
00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:09,279
Speaker 6: Mason Graham that gets you excited about what he can

1071
00:54:09,320 --> 00:54:10,320
Speaker 6: do in this defense?

1072
00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:13,080
Speaker 7: Well, you know, I had him number one on my

1073
00:54:13,160 --> 00:54:15,919
Speaker 7: board going into the draft just because I think he's

1074
00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:17,520
Speaker 7: the safest guy. And people are like, well, we don't

1075
00:54:17,520 --> 00:54:19,840
Speaker 7: need safe. Well, safe is important to me because what

1076
00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:22,360
Speaker 7: Theron I thought, Dalvin Thomason. I'm with you on that, Nathan.

1077
00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:24,279
Speaker 7: I think Dalvin Thomains is a really good pro.

1078
00:54:24,719 --> 00:54:26,200
Speaker 10: He's more of a scheme fit right.

1079
00:54:26,239 --> 00:54:28,680
Speaker 7: He doesn't fit what you know, Coach Schwartz like to

1080
00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:31,120
Speaker 7: do in terms of getting up field in that one gap.

1081
00:54:31,160 --> 00:54:32,920
Speaker 10: He's a great two gapper. He's a thick body.

1082
00:54:33,200 --> 00:54:35,080
Speaker 7: Mason Graham's a guy when you watch on film, he

1083
00:54:35,160 --> 00:54:36,799
Speaker 7: is a guy who anchors in there. But he can

1084
00:54:36,840 --> 00:54:38,600
Speaker 7: also jump and be a one gapper, and I think

1085
00:54:38,600 --> 00:54:41,160
Speaker 7: that's important, especially on those early downs. You know, even

1086
00:54:41,200 --> 00:54:43,200
Speaker 7: if it's him and Shelby Harris on early downs, if

1087
00:54:43,200 --> 00:54:45,040
Speaker 7: they're struggling with teams trying to gap them a little

1088
00:54:45,040 --> 00:54:47,040
Speaker 7: bit or get those big double teams. But I think

1089
00:54:47,080 --> 00:54:49,160
Speaker 7: Mason Graham he's a guy who's going to excel once

1090
00:54:49,200 --> 00:54:51,560
Speaker 7: the pads go on. He plays with great balance and

1091
00:54:51,719 --> 00:54:54,960
Speaker 7: violent hands, and when you do those two things, it

1092
00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:57,040
Speaker 7: really doesn't show up until you start hitting right. It

1093
00:54:57,040 --> 00:54:59,440
Speaker 7: doesn't show up until you start taking on those double.

1094
00:54:59,239 --> 00:54:59,960
Speaker 10: Teams and things like that.

1095
00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:02,400
Speaker 7: So when the pads go on, Browns are going to

1096
00:55:02,440 --> 00:55:04,120
Speaker 7: see why, you know, Browns fans, I think we'll.

1097
00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:05,759
Speaker 10: See why they took him so high. He's a guy

1098
00:55:05,800 --> 00:55:06,399
Speaker 10: who just.

1099
00:55:06,560 --> 00:55:08,520
Speaker 7: When you watch him on film over and over in

1100
00:55:08,520 --> 00:55:10,680
Speaker 7: the Big ten and the teams they played, he's an

1101
00:55:10,680 --> 00:55:12,560
Speaker 7: immovable object. And then he gets in that you know,

1102
00:55:12,600 --> 00:55:14,280
Speaker 7: you get the third down, it's almost like a switch

1103
00:55:14,320 --> 00:55:16,719
Speaker 7: for him. He turns you know, he turns up. He's

1104
00:55:16,760 --> 00:55:18,520
Speaker 7: able to turn that gap, you know, turn that edge

1105
00:55:18,520 --> 00:55:19,240
Speaker 7: in that B gap.

1106
00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:20,200
Speaker 10: And he's also going to.

1107
00:55:20,200 --> 00:55:22,319
Speaker 7: Be he's a little better athlete than people think. You

1108
00:55:22,320 --> 00:55:24,120
Speaker 7: know in Michigan he had the two gap all the

1109
00:55:24,160 --> 00:55:26,080
Speaker 7: time and he had to use his hands and kind

1110
00:55:26,080 --> 00:55:27,680
Speaker 7: of stay on the los. He's not going to do

1111
00:55:27,719 --> 00:55:29,759
Speaker 7: that here with Cleveland. So I think he's only I

1112
00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:31,839
Speaker 7: think he's just kind of reached, you know, the tip

1113
00:55:31,840 --> 00:55:34,600
Speaker 7: of the iceberg of how good he's going to be,

1114
00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:36,439
Speaker 7: because this game I think even fits him more.

1115
00:55:37,960 --> 00:55:40,279
Speaker 6: So you are of the belief like the Cleveland Browns are,

1116
00:55:40,280 --> 00:55:43,600
Speaker 6: because to me, when you take a defensive tackle fifth overall,

1117
00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:49,040
Speaker 6: you're expecting him not just to be a decent pass rusher.

1118
00:55:49,040 --> 00:55:50,760
Speaker 6: I think you're expecting to be a plus pass rusher

1119
00:55:50,800 --> 00:55:52,239
Speaker 6: because that's the name of the game, right. Yes, of

1120
00:55:52,239 --> 00:55:54,200
Speaker 6: course you've got to stop the run, but when you're

1121
00:55:54,239 --> 00:55:57,080
Speaker 6: taking somebody at that position that early, you think that

1122
00:55:57,120 --> 00:56:00,080
Speaker 6: they are going to be in the backfield disruptor. And

1123
00:56:00,120 --> 00:56:02,160
Speaker 6: the Browns felt like, as you pointed out there, what

1124
00:56:02,200 --> 00:56:04,560
Speaker 6: he was asked to do at Michigan limited, maybe some

1125
00:56:04,640 --> 00:56:06,520
Speaker 6: of those opportunities. You think this is the case of

1126
00:56:06,560 --> 00:56:09,600
Speaker 6: somebody who's going to be, from a statistical standpoint or

1127
00:56:09,640 --> 00:56:12,799
Speaker 6: an impact standpoint, more of a dominant pass rusher, more

1128
00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:15,080
Speaker 6: of a forces pass rusher. At the NFL level than

1129
00:56:15,120 --> 00:56:18,240
Speaker 6: he was at, you know, in college.

1130
00:56:19,160 --> 00:56:21,080
Speaker 7: Well, you know, I think the big thing that won't

1131
00:56:21,080 --> 00:56:23,759
Speaker 7: always show up on stats, say, is the fact that

1132
00:56:23,800 --> 00:56:25,520
Speaker 7: he's going to be in the backfield so much, right,

1133
00:56:25,520 --> 00:56:27,000
Speaker 7: so you're going to have to account for him in

1134
00:56:27,040 --> 00:56:29,359
Speaker 7: a game plan, and anytime you're accounting for anybody else

1135
00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:31,640
Speaker 7: besides Miles Garrett on the defensive line, that's going to

1136
00:56:31,680 --> 00:56:33,840
Speaker 7: help Garrett in terms of getting more one on ones.

1137
00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:37,239
Speaker 7: Graham is a guy who's gonna be He plays with

1138
00:56:37,360 --> 00:56:38,040
Speaker 7: great balance.

1139
00:56:38,080 --> 00:56:40,360
Speaker 10: You can tell that. I'm a big believer in offense

1140
00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:41,280
Speaker 10: and defensive lineman.

1141
00:56:41,280 --> 00:56:43,040
Speaker 7: When they wrestle, even at the high school level, it

1142
00:56:43,120 --> 00:56:45,719
Speaker 7: just gives them such an advantage with their hands and

1143
00:56:45,760 --> 00:56:47,840
Speaker 7: with their hand fighting and their balance. Right, So he

1144
00:56:47,920 --> 00:56:51,360
Speaker 7: plays with great balance. And yes, at Michigan now it's easier.

1145
00:56:51,360 --> 00:56:53,799
Speaker 7: I don't think it's easier, But it's the transition from

1146
00:56:53,840 --> 00:56:55,799
Speaker 7: going from what he had to do at Michigan to

1147
00:56:55,840 --> 00:56:57,480
Speaker 7: what he's going to do with the Browns. It's going

1148
00:56:57,560 --> 00:56:59,160
Speaker 7: to kind of unleash him. It's hard to be a

1149
00:56:59,160 --> 00:57:01,239
Speaker 7: two gapper, hard to get your hands on and read

1150
00:57:01,239 --> 00:57:03,320
Speaker 7: those blocks and where the doubles are coming from.

1151
00:57:03,600 --> 00:57:05,200
Speaker 10: When you get to turn it loose a little bit.

1152
00:57:05,400 --> 00:57:06,880
Speaker 7: But I think the reason you take a guy like

1153
00:57:06,960 --> 00:57:09,799
Speaker 7: him so so high is because he can he can

1154
00:57:09,880 --> 00:57:12,560
Speaker 7: win on first down. And what that means is the

1155
00:57:12,600 --> 00:57:15,000
Speaker 7: Browns to be successful, they have to win on first down.

1156
00:57:15,040 --> 00:57:17,720
Speaker 7: For me, because of the fact, once you get if

1157
00:57:17,720 --> 00:57:19,400
Speaker 7: you can get the second third long, now you can

1158
00:57:19,400 --> 00:57:20,400
Speaker 7: turn it loose a little bit.

1159
00:57:20,400 --> 00:57:21,880
Speaker 10: You can do the things you want to do if

1160
00:57:21,920 --> 00:57:24,040
Speaker 10: you get. If you if you lose.

1161
00:57:23,800 --> 00:57:26,040
Speaker 7: On it, if it's second five for an offense, the

1162
00:57:26,080 --> 00:57:28,479
Speaker 7: offense now dictates, right, you have to play more base

1163
00:57:28,520 --> 00:57:30,840
Speaker 7: defense because they can run and pass. So I think

1164
00:57:30,880 --> 00:57:33,200
Speaker 7: what he does is that he allows them to win

1165
00:57:33,240 --> 00:57:35,720
Speaker 7: on first down because he's so big, he can anchor

1166
00:57:35,760 --> 00:57:38,360
Speaker 7: in there on those doubles, let those linebackers run around.

1167
00:57:38,480 --> 00:57:40,680
Speaker 7: But then he's able to you know, win on third

1168
00:57:40,720 --> 00:57:42,840
Speaker 7: down or second long too. So I think he's a

1169
00:57:42,840 --> 00:57:44,919
Speaker 7: guy again he doesn't you know, he you know, people

1170
00:57:44,960 --> 00:57:47,360
Speaker 7: are disappointed at times because he doesn't fit that mold.

1171
00:57:47,360 --> 00:57:49,400
Speaker 7: He's not Miles Garrett in terms of muscle build and

1172
00:57:49,400 --> 00:57:51,760
Speaker 7: things like that. But once those pads go on, he's

1173
00:57:51,800 --> 00:57:53,960
Speaker 7: a guy that you watch, you know, he's he just

1174
00:57:54,040 --> 00:57:56,920
Speaker 7: is immovable object. And then his athletic ability and his

1175
00:57:56,960 --> 00:57:59,560
Speaker 7: ability to move. Now, obviously there's no pads on, but

1176
00:57:59,600 --> 00:58:01,720
Speaker 7: I thought it movement skills are really good during you know,

1177
00:58:01,800 --> 00:58:02,919
Speaker 7: the entire summer.

1178
00:58:02,600 --> 00:58:06,240
Speaker 6: Process, which is good because I think that you talk

1179
00:58:06,280 --> 00:58:08,240
Speaker 6: about him and Mike Hall and Malie Collins on a

1180
00:58:08,320 --> 00:58:10,600
Speaker 6: kind of a rotation. I thought Briggs played very well.

1181
00:58:10,640 --> 00:58:12,560
Speaker 6: Certainly is kind of more of a run stopper last year,

1182
00:58:12,560 --> 00:58:14,000
Speaker 6: and he still have veteran Shelby Erris. That could be

1183
00:58:14,040 --> 00:58:15,640
Speaker 6: a fun room. The defensive line is gonna have to

1184
00:58:15,680 --> 00:58:18,240
Speaker 6: be a strength of this football team. Let's take a

1185
00:58:18,240 --> 00:58:20,320
Speaker 6: step back from that and just go kind of big picture.

1186
00:58:20,360 --> 00:58:24,080
Speaker 6: What were what was your big takeaway about this football team?

1187
00:58:24,120 --> 00:58:26,800
Speaker 6: Maybe the direction is going to be going offensively the quarterbacks.

1188
00:58:26,840 --> 00:58:28,560
Speaker 6: Obviously there's a lot to get to in there. But

1189
00:58:28,640 --> 00:58:30,919
Speaker 6: what was kind of your takeaway about this football team

1190
00:58:31,000 --> 00:58:33,520
Speaker 6: overall after kind of the OTAs in mini camp.

1191
00:58:34,520 --> 00:58:35,960
Speaker 7: Well, you know, going out we just talked about, I

1192
00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:39,280
Speaker 7: think the defensive line is, without question their deepest position group, right,

1193
00:58:39,320 --> 00:58:41,080
Speaker 7: lots of guys, lots of guys. You know, I didn't

1194
00:58:41,080 --> 00:58:42,800
Speaker 7: even think about some of those guys you're talking about.

1195
00:58:42,840 --> 00:58:44,000
Speaker 7: There's lots of depth there.

1196
00:58:44,080 --> 00:58:44,240
Speaker 4: Right.

1197
00:58:44,760 --> 00:58:48,360
Speaker 7: I thought, led by Dwan Jones, I thought the offensive

1198
00:58:48,400 --> 00:58:50,320
Speaker 7: line booked physically fit right.

1199
00:58:50,400 --> 00:58:52,640
Speaker 10: And I think going back to what Bloomeringham wants to do.

1200
00:58:52,680 --> 00:58:56,360
Speaker 7: Obviously Bloomgrin being a Callahan kind of disciple, it kind

1201
00:58:56,360 --> 00:58:57,960
Speaker 7: of showed me. And then you look at what they

1202
00:58:58,000 --> 00:58:59,720
Speaker 7: did in the draft, right, they went and got Junkins,

1203
00:58:59,760 --> 00:59:01,640
Speaker 7: and they got Sampson and they got fan In, which

1204
00:59:01,680 --> 00:59:04,360
Speaker 7: tells me Kevin uh Sefanski is gonna get the keys

1205
00:59:04,400 --> 00:59:06,240
Speaker 7: back to the car, right, because so they're gonna you know,

1206
00:59:06,280 --> 00:59:08,960
Speaker 7: I love twelve personnel if you have athletic tight ends

1207
00:59:08,960 --> 00:59:10,880
Speaker 7: because it puts such a strain on that defense.

1208
00:59:10,920 --> 00:59:12,840
Speaker 10: Are you gonna play Nickel? Are you gonna play bass?

1209
00:59:13,240 --> 00:59:13,400
Speaker 2: Uh?

1210
00:59:13,440 --> 00:59:15,800
Speaker 7: Then you can find those matchups you want. The backs

1211
00:59:15,840 --> 00:59:18,600
Speaker 7: catch the ball while the backfield. I was very impressed

1212
00:59:18,640 --> 00:59:21,080
Speaker 7: with Junkins and Sampson and those guys catching the ball,

1213
00:59:21,120 --> 00:59:22,680
Speaker 7: which allows you to get into empty and do some

1214
00:59:22,760 --> 00:59:24,439
Speaker 7: of the things he likes to do in.

1215
00:59:24,400 --> 00:59:25,680
Speaker 10: Finding those matchups.

1216
00:59:25,880 --> 00:59:27,640
Speaker 7: But going back to you know, going back to what

1217
00:59:27,760 --> 00:59:30,120
Speaker 7: Stefanski and the reason you know he was hired by

1218
00:59:30,120 --> 00:59:32,160
Speaker 7: the Browns. They're gonna run that weak side zone. They're

1219
00:59:32,160 --> 00:59:34,360
Speaker 7: gonna run they're gonna run counter, they're gonna run power.

1220
00:59:34,600 --> 00:59:36,160
Speaker 10: They're gonna kind of create an identity.

1221
00:59:36,160 --> 00:59:38,800
Speaker 7: And it doesn't mean the identity is automatically gonna create

1222
00:59:38,920 --> 00:59:41,760
Speaker 7: wins for you. But you can fix your identity. You

1223
00:59:41,800 --> 00:59:43,440
Speaker 7: can't fix something you don't do. And it kind of

1224
00:59:43,440 --> 00:59:45,840
Speaker 7: feels like they went away from what made him successful.

1225
00:59:46,240 --> 00:59:47,800
Speaker 7: It kind of feels like they're going back to that

1226
00:59:47,840 --> 00:59:50,120
Speaker 7: weak side zone. They're gonna go back to pulling those guards,

1227
00:59:50,160 --> 00:59:52,360
Speaker 7: getting those guards out in front. And it's I always

1228
00:59:52,400 --> 00:59:54,040
Speaker 7: said this, it's not really what you put in, it's

1229
00:59:54,040 --> 00:59:54,680
Speaker 7: what you can fix.

1230
00:59:54,720 --> 00:59:55,960
Speaker 10: And these are things he can fix.

1231
00:59:56,000 --> 00:59:58,000
Speaker 7: He's brought in guys that I think kind of fit

1232
00:59:58,040 --> 00:59:59,680
Speaker 7: that mold if you think at Tommy Reese was a

1233
00:59:59,720 --> 01:00:02,600
Speaker 7: Brian Kelly kind of disciple, notre Dame, multiple tight ends.

1234
01:00:02,640 --> 01:00:05,720
Speaker 7: So I think they're kind of going back to what

1235
01:00:05,760 --> 01:00:08,160
Speaker 7: they do well in creating that identity. And I think

1236
01:00:08,160 --> 01:00:10,400
Speaker 7: an identity, whether it's good or bad, it's something you

1237
01:00:10,440 --> 01:00:12,160
Speaker 7: can fix and it's what you can hang your hat on.

1238
01:00:13,320 --> 01:00:15,120
Speaker 6: Yeah, and I think that identity is going to be

1239
01:00:15,200 --> 01:00:17,720
Speaker 6: all about running the ball. And you mentioned the twelve personnel,

1240
01:00:17,800 --> 01:00:19,600
Speaker 6: so that'll kind of help me jump in over to

1241
01:00:20,040 --> 01:00:22,520
Speaker 6: Harold Fannin. I like what I saw from him. I

1242
01:00:22,600 --> 01:00:24,680
Speaker 6: thought he was very impressive. I think he's somebody that they

1243
01:00:24,640 --> 01:00:26,200
Speaker 6: can bring out. He can almost play like a big

1244
01:00:26,240 --> 01:00:28,200
Speaker 6: slot wide receiver for you, depending on the way a

1245
01:00:28,280 --> 01:00:30,920
Speaker 6: defense matches that twelve personnel. What do you see from

1246
01:00:30,960 --> 01:00:32,320
Speaker 6: fan and do you think that he is going to

1247
01:00:32,320 --> 01:00:34,160
Speaker 6: be a big part of what we do from a

1248
01:00:34,160 --> 01:00:36,600
Speaker 6: package standpoint being on the field with David Njoku.

1249
01:00:37,760 --> 01:00:39,480
Speaker 7: Yeah, you know, if you think about first down, right,

1250
01:00:39,480 --> 01:00:41,680
Speaker 7: you get it first down and you go twelve personnel.

1251
01:00:41,760 --> 01:00:44,000
Speaker 7: If that defense goes regular, now you're going to find

1252
01:00:44,000 --> 01:00:46,120
Speaker 7: those matchups. You put them on the outside. Now if

1253
01:00:46,400 --> 01:00:47,720
Speaker 7: you know they want to put a corner on him,

1254
01:00:47,720 --> 01:00:49,600
Speaker 7: because I think he kind of creates a real matchup

1255
01:00:49,640 --> 01:00:51,960
Speaker 7: problem for a linebacker to safety, then you can kind

1256
01:00:51,960 --> 01:00:54,080
Speaker 7: of open up those receivers, even if it's not Judy,

1257
01:00:54,120 --> 01:00:56,360
Speaker 7: because now you can kind of get them on some safeties, right,

1258
01:00:56,360 --> 01:00:59,000
Speaker 7: so you can improve your He can help improve those

1259
01:00:59,240 --> 01:01:01,640
Speaker 7: matchups for those receivers who might not have the skill

1260
01:01:01,680 --> 01:01:05,240
Speaker 7: set to beat an NFL corner all the time. Then

1261
01:01:05,280 --> 01:01:06,760
Speaker 7: if they want to go Nickel, you know, you got

1262
01:01:06,760 --> 01:01:07,880
Speaker 7: to be able to run the ball a little bit

1263
01:01:07,920 --> 01:01:09,640
Speaker 7: in there, and that kind of plays into what Savans

1264
01:01:09,680 --> 01:01:10,760
Speaker 7: he wants to do with.

1265
01:01:10,800 --> 01:01:11,760
Speaker 10: That power run game.

1266
01:01:12,080 --> 01:01:14,000
Speaker 7: Like you said, it's one of the you know, you've

1267
01:01:14,040 --> 01:01:15,800
Speaker 7: been doing this a long time as well. Some guys

1268
01:01:15,840 --> 01:01:17,960
Speaker 7: just they just get open, and he's a guy that

1269
01:01:18,080 --> 01:01:21,240
Speaker 7: just really gets open. He understands leverage, he understands he

1270
01:01:21,280 --> 01:01:23,880
Speaker 7: does a really good job when he's facing a smaller

1271
01:01:23,880 --> 01:01:25,920
Speaker 7: guy of using kind of creating that box out.

1272
01:01:26,040 --> 01:01:28,600
Speaker 10: He does a really good job of using angles.

1273
01:01:28,640 --> 01:01:31,560
Speaker 7: I love the fact that he hit texts blind spots

1274
01:01:31,560 --> 01:01:32,120
Speaker 7: of corners.

1275
01:01:32,120 --> 01:01:34,360
Speaker 10: He does. He has a pretty high IQ.

1276
01:01:34,240 --> 01:01:35,760
Speaker 7: In terms of how to get off the ball with

1277
01:01:35,800 --> 01:01:38,880
Speaker 7: his releases against Press. Those things will only get better.

1278
01:01:38,920 --> 01:01:40,720
Speaker 7: But you can tell he kind of has a former

1279
01:01:40,800 --> 01:01:42,920
Speaker 7: receiver background. And when you go back and look at

1280
01:01:42,920 --> 01:01:45,000
Speaker 7: his best games, his best games were against Texas A

1281
01:01:45,040 --> 01:01:47,960
Speaker 7: and M and Penn State, he shows great He shows

1282
01:01:48,000 --> 01:01:51,240
Speaker 7: great ability to get open. And once again, I think

1283
01:01:51,280 --> 01:01:53,960
Speaker 7: he's going to be huge because he's the guy that's

1284
01:01:53,960 --> 01:01:55,960
Speaker 7: going to create matchups not only for himself but for

1285
01:01:56,040 --> 01:01:58,120
Speaker 7: his teammates because of his skill set. He's kind of

1286
01:01:58,160 --> 01:01:59,840
Speaker 7: you know, he's only two thirty to forty, right, so

1287
01:02:00,240 --> 01:02:00,600
Speaker 7: who do.

1288
01:02:00,560 --> 01:02:01,320
Speaker 10: You put on them right?

1289
01:02:01,360 --> 01:02:02,520
Speaker 7: And that's going to be a that's going to be

1290
01:02:02,560 --> 01:02:04,360
Speaker 7: a difficult thing for a defensive coordinator to try to

1291
01:02:04,360 --> 01:02:04,960
Speaker 7: figure that out.

1292
01:02:05,000 --> 01:02:06,000
Speaker 10: So I'm with you.

1293
01:02:06,040 --> 01:02:07,560
Speaker 7: I think he's going to be a really important part

1294
01:02:07,600 --> 01:02:09,840
Speaker 7: of what the Browns try to do, especially on early downs.

1295
01:02:12,000 --> 01:02:15,120
Speaker 6: The big question with this football team is who's going

1296
01:02:15,200 --> 01:02:17,480
Speaker 6: to be throwing the football. You've got a chance, obviously

1297
01:02:17,480 --> 01:02:19,640
Speaker 6: to see all four quarterbacks. We've seen Joe Flacco play

1298
01:02:19,680 --> 01:02:21,720
Speaker 6: quarterback for the Cleveland Browns. We have not obviously seen

1299
01:02:21,760 --> 01:02:24,400
Speaker 6: the rookies Dylan Gabriel or Shore Sanders, and then Kenny

1300
01:02:24,440 --> 01:02:27,640
Speaker 6: Pickett we've seen with Pittsburgh and then most recently Philadelphia.

1301
01:02:27,840 --> 01:02:29,600
Speaker 6: What did you kind of make of the way reps

1302
01:02:29,600 --> 01:02:31,880
Speaker 6: were distributed? What did you see and what kind of

1303
01:02:31,880 --> 01:02:33,520
Speaker 6: direction do you think things may be going for the

1304
01:02:33,520 --> 01:02:34,360
Speaker 6: Browns of that position?

1305
01:02:35,760 --> 01:02:37,960
Speaker 7: Well, it was interesting. You're obviously you're out there all

1306
01:02:37,960 --> 01:02:39,520
Speaker 7: the time too. They had the you know, both of

1307
01:02:39,520 --> 01:02:41,880
Speaker 7: those fields going right, and for me, that tells and

1308
01:02:42,040 --> 01:02:44,200
Speaker 7: my dad always taught me this to give if you

1309
01:02:44,240 --> 01:02:46,000
Speaker 7: have a bunch of guys at a certain position that

1310
01:02:46,040 --> 01:02:48,520
Speaker 7: are kind of equal or kind of trying to prove themselves.

1311
01:02:48,760 --> 01:02:50,560
Speaker 7: You've got to get them off the speed first before

1312
01:02:50,560 --> 01:02:52,520
Speaker 7: they have any chance to compete. So I think they're

1313
01:02:52,560 --> 01:02:55,240
Speaker 7: doing a really good job of let's get you knowing

1314
01:02:55,320 --> 01:02:57,760
Speaker 7: the offense, Let's get you understanding the speed of the game,

1315
01:02:58,080 --> 01:03:00,720
Speaker 7: understanding where landmarks are, where people are supposed to be,

1316
01:03:01,120 --> 01:03:03,840
Speaker 7: you know, getting underneath center, things like that. So I

1317
01:03:03,880 --> 01:03:05,600
Speaker 7: think they're doing a good job of that. Trying to

1318
01:03:05,600 --> 01:03:08,120
Speaker 7: get everybody work, I think that's it. You know, everybody

1319
01:03:08,120 --> 01:03:10,600
Speaker 7: has their different opinions. But I think that's why Flacco wasn't,

1320
01:03:10,720 --> 01:03:13,520
Speaker 7: you know, used a ton because he kind of understands that,

1321
01:03:13,920 --> 01:03:16,240
Speaker 7: and he's been around a long time. He's been with

1322
01:03:16,240 --> 01:03:17,920
Speaker 7: the Browns, so he doesn't necessarily have to get up

1323
01:03:17,920 --> 01:03:19,840
Speaker 7: the speed. With the verbiage and the footwork and things

1324
01:03:19,880 --> 01:03:22,080
Speaker 7: like that. I think Joe Flacco will be the start

1325
01:03:22,360 --> 01:03:24,120
Speaker 7: week one if I was, if somebody was to ask

1326
01:03:24,160 --> 01:03:27,160
Speaker 7: me why, because not only is he a veteran, but

1327
01:03:27,240 --> 01:03:30,360
Speaker 7: he allows those guys around him to play at full speed.

1328
01:03:30,400 --> 01:03:31,880
Speaker 7: And if you look at the Browns, sometimes they get

1329
01:03:31,920 --> 01:03:34,720
Speaker 7: off the slow starts and they're not a super physical

1330
01:03:34,760 --> 01:03:36,760
Speaker 7: team at practice. And when you're not a few a

1331
01:03:36,800 --> 01:03:40,040
Speaker 7: super physical team, that's that acclamation that can cause you

1332
01:03:40,080 --> 01:03:42,120
Speaker 7: to you know, everybody says the Browns are unisciplined with

1333
01:03:42,160 --> 01:03:45,280
Speaker 7: all the penalties. I don't think it's necessarily undisciplined because

1334
01:03:45,680 --> 01:03:47,640
Speaker 7: you know it's undisciplined. I think it's because they're just

1335
01:03:47,720 --> 01:03:49,960
Speaker 7: not used to playing at that you know, thouthand mile

1336
01:03:50,080 --> 01:03:52,480
Speaker 7: proor speed with all those big bodies running around, and

1337
01:03:52,520 --> 01:03:55,200
Speaker 7: I think so I think Flacco gives them that opportunity. Now,

1338
01:03:55,240 --> 01:03:57,440
Speaker 7: if you ask me, with the rookies, I think Sanders

1339
01:03:57,440 --> 01:03:59,640
Speaker 7: has done some really really good things. I think Dylan

1340
01:03:59,680 --> 01:04:01,919
Speaker 7: Gaber ahead of him just because he played a long

1341
01:04:01,920 --> 01:04:04,400
Speaker 7: time in college. He's one hundred and fifty five touchdown

1342
01:04:04,400 --> 01:04:06,800
Speaker 7: pass he had sixty four starts. He played three big

1343
01:04:06,840 --> 01:04:09,640
Speaker 7: time programs, so you know that too. So he's seen

1344
01:04:09,720 --> 01:04:12,720
Speaker 7: different coverages, He's been coached differently. He understands fronts and

1345
01:04:12,760 --> 01:04:16,160
Speaker 7: coverages and roles and you know where hot receivers are.

1346
01:04:16,200 --> 01:04:19,200
Speaker 7: He's been underneath center, so that footwork's a little bit different.

1347
01:04:19,400 --> 01:04:22,480
Speaker 7: You know, Sanders, I think for me has the Sanders.

1348
01:04:22,600 --> 01:04:24,880
Speaker 7: What he'll need to work on is that I think

1349
01:04:24,920 --> 01:04:27,320
Speaker 7: he got so much pressure at Colorado. He got in

1350
01:04:27,400 --> 01:04:29,680
Speaker 7: a bad habit of drifting and when you get that

1351
01:04:29,760 --> 01:04:32,440
Speaker 7: A and B gap pressure, it kind of causes you

1352
01:04:32,520 --> 01:04:34,840
Speaker 7: to go backwards and if you don't even know you're

1353
01:04:34,840 --> 01:04:37,520
Speaker 7: doing it sometimes, and he doesn't have it like a

1354
01:04:37,600 --> 01:04:39,880
Speaker 7: rocket arm. He's got a plenty of arm strength. But

1355
01:04:40,000 --> 01:04:42,480
Speaker 7: and when you don't transfer your weight, that hurts you.

1356
01:04:42,520 --> 01:04:44,920
Speaker 7: And you saw that sometimes during camp where he's just

1357
01:04:44,920 --> 01:04:46,520
Speaker 7: gonna learn, and those are all things that are gonna

1358
01:04:46,520 --> 01:04:48,760
Speaker 7: happen with reps, right. But I think he was the

1359
01:04:48,800 --> 01:04:51,760
Speaker 7: offense at Colorado. He didn't go, they didn't go. And

1360
01:04:51,800 --> 01:04:54,080
Speaker 7: that also, you know, that means he's seeing different.

1361
01:04:53,800 --> 01:04:55,280
Speaker 10: Blitzes and different coverages.

1362
01:04:55,480 --> 01:04:57,439
Speaker 7: He doesn't He never saw a lot of base base

1363
01:04:57,520 --> 01:04:59,840
Speaker 7: things at Colorado because teams had to really prepare for

1364
01:04:59,840 --> 01:05:01,240
Speaker 7: the They had four really.

1365
01:05:01,040 --> 01:05:04,240
Speaker 10: Good receivers, yeah, and then zero run game.

1366
01:05:04,320 --> 01:05:04,480
Speaker 2: Right.

1367
01:05:04,520 --> 01:05:06,680
Speaker 7: So I just think some of his habits that he's

1368
01:05:06,720 --> 01:05:08,960
Speaker 7: learned now. And I also think with a guy like

1369
01:05:09,000 --> 01:05:10,880
Speaker 7: that when you watch them, he's a gamer, right, so

1370
01:05:10,920 --> 01:05:13,280
Speaker 7: he's gonna he looked good in even like seven on

1371
01:05:13,400 --> 01:05:16,760
Speaker 7: sevens and team and stuff because he's a gamer. But

1372
01:05:16,920 --> 01:05:18,920
Speaker 7: Gabriel I think is ahead just because he's polished. He's

1373
01:05:18,920 --> 01:05:21,040
Speaker 7: a little bit older. Yeah, he's got a really compact

1374
01:05:21,120 --> 01:05:24,040
Speaker 7: throwing motion. He delivers the ball, he's got really good

1375
01:05:24,160 --> 01:05:25,640
Speaker 7: he can spin it now he can. He's got a

1376
01:05:25,680 --> 01:05:28,080
Speaker 7: lot more arm strength than I thought he did, but

1377
01:05:28,120 --> 01:05:28,640
Speaker 7: that would.

1378
01:05:28,480 --> 01:05:28,880
Speaker 10: Be the case.

1379
01:05:28,920 --> 01:05:30,680
Speaker 7: But I think both of those guys will get a look.

1380
01:05:31,200 --> 01:05:33,560
Speaker 7: But as a as a coach, I just hope that

1381
01:05:33,600 --> 01:05:36,560
Speaker 7: the number one thing is always to win and wherever

1382
01:05:36,640 --> 01:05:39,000
Speaker 7: that is, however they develop those guys, you still got

1383
01:05:39,040 --> 01:05:41,160
Speaker 7: to win football games, and I think Joe Flacco gives

1384
01:05:41,200 --> 01:05:43,400
Speaker 7: him the best opportunity to do that going into Week one.

1385
01:05:44,480 --> 01:05:46,320
Speaker 6: What do you think about PICKT? I mean, fifteen and

1386
01:05:46,400 --> 01:05:48,600
Speaker 6: ten is a starter, right, which, believe it or not,

1387
01:05:48,680 --> 01:05:50,960
Speaker 6: in my time here with this organization, which is now

1388
01:05:51,000 --> 01:05:53,520
Speaker 6: going on season thirteen, is that's the best record winning

1389
01:05:53,520 --> 01:05:55,920
Speaker 6: percentage of any quarterback we've had. Seven gave winning drives.

1390
01:05:56,200 --> 01:05:59,480
Speaker 6: And he's young enough that if he does put it together,

1391
01:05:59,520 --> 01:06:01,160
Speaker 6: and I think a lot of people would say, you know,

1392
01:06:01,400 --> 01:06:02,840
Speaker 6: be giving him bene of the doubt. That was probably

1393
01:06:02,880 --> 01:06:05,160
Speaker 6: the worst coordinated offense in the NFL that he played

1394
01:06:05,160 --> 01:06:08,800
Speaker 6: in there in Pittsburgh, and it's ironic that he probably

1395
01:06:08,880 --> 01:06:10,760
Speaker 6: is a better fit for what Arthur Smith wanted to do,

1396
01:06:10,760 --> 01:06:12,800
Speaker 6: which is somewhat similar to what Kevin Stefanski will do

1397
01:06:12,840 --> 01:06:16,919
Speaker 6: here and never play there in Pittsburgh with him, What

1398
01:06:17,360 --> 01:06:19,880
Speaker 6: do you think the fact that he is still a

1399
01:06:19,920 --> 01:06:23,200
Speaker 6: former first round pick, still young like Joe Flacco, and

1400
01:06:23,240 --> 01:06:25,160
Speaker 6: I love Joe Flack. I see him kind of more

1401
01:06:25,200 --> 01:06:27,000
Speaker 6: as and I could be totally wrong about this. These

1402
01:06:27,040 --> 01:06:29,040
Speaker 6: are not scores, you know, it's kind of the break

1403
01:06:29,080 --> 01:06:32,120
Speaker 6: glass in case of emergency type guy that the ideally

1404
01:06:32,320 --> 01:06:34,120
Speaker 6: you want Pickett to start, and then you want to

1405
01:06:34,120 --> 01:06:36,040
Speaker 6: see these rookies at some point. If Picket, you know,

1406
01:06:36,080 --> 01:06:37,760
Speaker 6: doesn't do well, or I Pickett does do well, then

1407
01:06:37,760 --> 01:06:39,280
Speaker 6: that's even a bonus for you because you may have

1408
01:06:39,320 --> 01:06:41,960
Speaker 6: you found somebody or the very worst, that's somebody that

1409
01:06:42,000 --> 01:06:44,280
Speaker 6: can turn into a third round compick for you next

1410
01:06:44,360 --> 01:06:46,880
Speaker 6: year if he were to sign somewhere else. So I

1411
01:06:47,080 --> 01:06:51,600
Speaker 6: just I think it would be Flacco was great with us,

1412
01:06:52,040 --> 01:06:55,640
Speaker 6: but really hasn't been a winning quarterback other anywhere else

1413
01:06:55,640 --> 01:06:59,600
Speaker 6: since twenty seventeen other than that season with us we

1414
01:06:59,680 --> 01:07:00,600
Speaker 6: got picking.

1415
01:07:00,600 --> 01:07:02,400
Speaker 7: You said, you kind of took the words right out

1416
01:07:02,400 --> 01:07:03,960
Speaker 7: of my mouth, right. You don't really know what he

1417
01:07:04,000 --> 01:07:05,880
Speaker 7: had at Pittsburgh because that was they didn't do a

1418
01:07:05,920 --> 01:07:08,160
Speaker 7: lot of He didn't do a lot of things that

1419
01:07:08,200 --> 01:07:10,440
Speaker 7: he would be successful at right, and it shows it.

1420
01:07:10,520 --> 01:07:12,480
Speaker 7: One thing that I think he struggles with is he struggled.

1421
01:07:12,480 --> 01:07:13,720
Speaker 7: He's got great feet and he could do the things

1422
01:07:13,760 --> 01:07:15,800
Speaker 7: he can throw from different launch points when I watch

1423
01:07:15,840 --> 01:07:17,320
Speaker 7: him on someone, because I was doing the same thing

1424
01:07:17,360 --> 01:07:19,440
Speaker 7: you're doing, right, trying to figure out what this guy is.

1425
01:07:19,480 --> 01:07:22,000
Speaker 7: He's a first rounder. I think he struggles within the

1426
01:07:22,040 --> 01:07:24,520
Speaker 7: pocket with footwork within the pocket right that I always

1427
01:07:24,520 --> 01:07:27,439
Speaker 7: say the old Dan Marino uh moving left or right

1428
01:07:27,520 --> 01:07:29,240
Speaker 7: or up, up and down one to three yards to

1429
01:07:29,280 --> 01:07:31,160
Speaker 7: kind of create those windows. You see some miss that

1430
01:07:31,200 --> 01:07:33,440
Speaker 7: he has because he doesn't move very well.

1431
01:07:33,320 --> 01:07:34,400
Speaker 10: In the pocket for some reason.

1432
01:07:34,560 --> 01:07:36,800
Speaker 7: Once again, I think a guy like Kevin's fancy says

1433
01:07:36,840 --> 01:07:39,280
Speaker 7: I can fix that, right, you know, you know, going

1434
01:07:39,280 --> 01:07:40,920
Speaker 7: back to Flackle, I think you're exactly right.

1435
01:07:40,960 --> 01:07:43,600
Speaker 10: I don't know, you know what the answer is.

1436
01:07:43,640 --> 01:07:45,040
Speaker 7: I will say this, you want. One of the most

1437
01:07:45,040 --> 01:07:47,360
Speaker 7: overused words in football for me is the word culture.

1438
01:07:47,400 --> 01:07:49,280
Speaker 7: Culture is not what you say, it's what you do.

1439
01:07:49,680 --> 01:07:52,480
Speaker 7: And the Browns are in an interesting thing. They're they're

1440
01:07:52,480 --> 01:07:54,560
Speaker 7: in a they're in a place now where they have

1441
01:07:54,640 --> 01:07:57,240
Speaker 7: these veterans, right, and the rosters. The roster's got some

1442
01:07:57,360 --> 01:08:00,040
Speaker 7: high end guys that can really play. And if you

1443
01:08:00,160 --> 01:08:02,080
Speaker 7: say that, you know we're going to develop these guys

1444
01:08:02,120 --> 01:08:04,720
Speaker 7: in winnings not most important thing. I think you can

1445
01:08:04,760 --> 01:08:06,640
Speaker 7: lose these I think you can lose the locker room quickly.

1446
01:08:06,640 --> 01:08:08,960
Speaker 7: I don't care what level of football you're at. Winning's

1447
01:08:09,000 --> 01:08:11,840
Speaker 7: got to be the primary thing that you're telling everybody.

1448
01:08:11,880 --> 01:08:13,840
Speaker 7: We're gonna do whatever we got to do to win.

1449
01:08:13,920 --> 01:08:16,519
Speaker 7: And if you think it's Picket, if you think it's Flaco,

1450
01:08:16,800 --> 01:08:19,080
Speaker 7: if you think it's one of the younger guys, you know.

1451
01:08:19,040 --> 01:08:20,439
Speaker 10: It's got to be the older guys.

1452
01:08:20,760 --> 01:08:22,760
Speaker 7: Got to know that that guy is the best guy.

1453
01:08:22,880 --> 01:08:25,639
Speaker 7: Whoever that is, that guy gives us the best chance

1454
01:08:25,680 --> 01:08:28,680
Speaker 7: to win, because winning should be you know, obviously, we're

1455
01:08:28,720 --> 01:08:30,960
Speaker 7: all in positions. If if our bosses tell us that

1456
01:08:30,960 --> 01:08:33,320
Speaker 7: they want to see something, then absolutely, But as a

1457
01:08:33,320 --> 01:08:35,439
Speaker 7: football coach, I'm putting the guys out there that are

1458
01:08:35,479 --> 01:08:37,599
Speaker 7: ready to play and help me win, and the Browns

1459
01:08:37,600 --> 01:08:40,160
Speaker 7: should think they're gonna win every game. Obviously it'll be

1460
01:08:40,160 --> 01:08:43,479
Speaker 7: really tough to do that, but that's your mentality. That's culture, right,

1461
01:08:43,520 --> 01:08:46,080
Speaker 7: that's we're practicing. You got to prove yourself.

1462
01:08:46,120 --> 01:08:47,280
Speaker 10: So I'm with you.

1463
01:08:47,400 --> 01:08:49,479
Speaker 7: If I was to say, you know, oh, it can't

1464
01:08:49,520 --> 01:08:50,439
Speaker 7: be Picket or it can't be.

1465
01:08:50,360 --> 01:08:51,800
Speaker 10: Flacco, you know, I really don't know.

1466
01:08:52,000 --> 01:08:53,680
Speaker 7: I'm like you, I'm looking forward to seeing this in

1467
01:08:53,720 --> 01:08:56,200
Speaker 7: camp and how they divvy up the reps and how

1468
01:08:56,200 --> 01:08:57,720
Speaker 7: they you know, are they going to go live a

1469
01:08:57,720 --> 01:08:59,600
Speaker 7: little bit more so these guys can actually see some

1470
01:08:59,680 --> 01:09:02,640
Speaker 7: live and things like that. It'll be very interesting, you know,

1471
01:09:02,720 --> 01:09:03,400
Speaker 7: come then in July.

1472
01:09:04,400 --> 01:09:05,720
Speaker 6: I agree with you, and I think that's gonna be

1473
01:09:05,760 --> 01:09:07,800
Speaker 6: fascinating because we saw, you know, Flaco. You know what

1474
01:09:07,800 --> 01:09:10,559
Speaker 6: you've got in Joe Flacco in many ways, right, so

1475
01:09:10,640 --> 01:09:13,519
Speaker 6: he got the least amount of reps. I think what's

1476
01:09:13,520 --> 01:09:15,120
Speaker 6: gonna be fascinating is what do these look like when

1477
01:09:15,160 --> 01:09:16,479
Speaker 6: we get into training camp? What do these look like

1478
01:09:16,479 --> 01:09:18,240
Speaker 6: when we get into joint practices, which I think are

1479
01:09:18,240 --> 01:09:19,680
Speaker 6: going to tell you a lot more about who they

1480
01:09:19,680 --> 01:09:21,640
Speaker 6: think is going to be playing, you know, early in

1481
01:09:21,640 --> 01:09:24,719
Speaker 6: the season, and that's you know, that's six weeks away.

1482
01:09:24,760 --> 01:09:26,599
Speaker 6: We're gonna be in Carolina, I think in six weeks,

1483
01:09:26,640 --> 01:09:28,799
Speaker 6: so you're gonna, I think, have a lot more information

1484
01:09:28,880 --> 01:09:31,120
Speaker 6: about that. There one other question. I wanted to get

1485
01:09:31,120 --> 01:09:32,519
Speaker 6: to you, and we appreciate time. We'll let you run

1486
01:09:32,520 --> 01:09:35,479
Speaker 6: after this one. But do you think that the Browns

1487
01:09:35,479 --> 01:09:38,320
Speaker 6: have enough in the wide receiver room or is that

1488
01:09:38,439 --> 01:09:40,639
Speaker 6: a room that you still would be looking at maybe

1489
01:09:40,680 --> 01:09:42,120
Speaker 6: to see more additions.

1490
01:09:43,600 --> 01:09:45,840
Speaker 7: Well, you know, I here's the thing. I you know

1491
01:09:45,960 --> 01:09:47,840
Speaker 7: him better than not. I was pretty impressed with Seth

1492
01:09:47,880 --> 01:09:49,920
Speaker 7: Tillman last year before he got hurt, and I said.

1493
01:09:49,760 --> 01:09:50,640
Speaker 10: Him physically, he's more.

1494
01:09:51,080 --> 01:09:52,560
Speaker 7: He's more of those guys before he got You know,

1495
01:09:52,600 --> 01:09:54,600
Speaker 7: when you go watching my practice, there's certain guys that go.

1496
01:09:54,680 --> 01:09:56,960
Speaker 10: Man. That guy is a good looking athlete. Sat Tillman

1497
01:09:57,080 --> 01:09:57,920
Speaker 10: is just a really good.

1498
01:09:57,840 --> 01:09:59,679
Speaker 7: Looking athlete and he does a lot of really good things.

1499
01:09:59,760 --> 01:10:02,040
Speaker 7: So for me, I think it, you know, my thought

1500
01:10:02,120 --> 01:10:03,960
Speaker 7: is all right, they're going twelve personnel fans.

1501
01:10:04,160 --> 01:10:06,160
Speaker 10: I think they think a fan in as.

1502
01:10:05,720 --> 01:10:07,599
Speaker 7: A receiver as well, even though he's a tight end.

1503
01:10:07,840 --> 01:10:09,360
Speaker 7: I think they know what they got in a joke,

1504
01:10:09,600 --> 01:10:10,760
Speaker 7: especially run after catch.

1505
01:10:10,800 --> 01:10:12,240
Speaker 10: You know his ability to get the ball and go

1506
01:10:12,320 --> 01:10:12,599
Speaker 10: with it.

1507
01:10:13,000 --> 01:10:15,240
Speaker 7: So I do think they need you know, I you know,

1508
01:10:15,280 --> 01:10:18,040
Speaker 7: who is going to be that second guy. If it's Tillman, great,

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01:10:18,040 --> 01:10:19,720
Speaker 7: then who's gonna be the third guy. And if it's

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01:10:19,720 --> 01:10:21,759
Speaker 7: not gonna be the third guy, do you expect Fannin

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01:10:21,840 --> 01:10:24,559
Speaker 7: to be that guy? Obviously, it's a room that has

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01:10:24,560 --> 01:10:27,680
Speaker 7: some question marks with Thrash and Woods and some you

1513
01:10:27,680 --> 01:10:29,920
Speaker 7: know Bell, some guys that you know haven't really produced.

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01:10:30,120 --> 01:10:32,120
Speaker 7: You know, I've I've seen Thrash through some things that

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01:10:32,200 --> 01:10:33,599
Speaker 7: practice that kind of gets you excited.

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01:10:33,640 --> 01:10:35,320
Speaker 10: His ability to get open, his ability to get.

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01:10:35,240 --> 01:10:37,840
Speaker 7: Off press, catch it at the catch point, run after catch.

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01:10:37,920 --> 01:10:39,880
Speaker 7: So you know, do these guys just need more work

1519
01:10:39,920 --> 01:10:41,320
Speaker 7: or do they need to go out and get a guy.

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01:10:42,040 --> 01:10:43,840
Speaker 7: I think it'll tell you a lot in terms of

1521
01:10:44,080 --> 01:10:46,120
Speaker 7: what personnel are they coming out with, So you know,

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01:10:46,160 --> 01:10:48,000
Speaker 7: after week one or two, what's the person that are

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01:10:48,040 --> 01:10:48,840
Speaker 7: they coming out in twelve.

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01:10:48,840 --> 01:10:50,280
Speaker 10: If they're coming out in twelve.

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01:10:49,960 --> 01:10:52,960
Speaker 7: Then they're they're pretty comfortable with, said Tillman, and they

1526
01:10:53,040 --> 01:10:54,920
Speaker 7: believe Fannin can be a guy that can really be

1527
01:10:54,960 --> 01:10:57,439
Speaker 7: a difference maker in their past game because if they're

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01:10:57,479 --> 01:10:59,519
Speaker 7: going twelve, it'll be a lot more play action, right,

1529
01:10:59,560 --> 01:11:01,080
Speaker 7: it will be a lot more of that boot where

1530
01:11:01,080 --> 01:11:03,760
Speaker 7: they're going levels concept and then they're gonna get you know,

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01:11:03,840 --> 01:11:06,000
Speaker 7: third down and medium because you can win our first down,

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01:11:06,040 --> 01:11:07,920
Speaker 7: then you can split those guys out and maybe find

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01:11:07,920 --> 01:11:10,120
Speaker 7: a match up for Tilman and Judy if you've moved

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01:11:10,120 --> 01:11:11,479
Speaker 7: the tight ends outside at one.

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01:11:11,640 --> 01:11:14,120
Speaker 10: So it'll be interesting. I'm with you, you know.

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01:11:14,160 --> 01:11:16,799
Speaker 7: I think talent wise, they probably do need to improve

1537
01:11:16,800 --> 01:11:18,519
Speaker 7: a little bit there, but I think it has to

1538
01:11:18,560 --> 01:11:20,240
Speaker 7: do with what scheme and what are they Are they

1539
01:11:20,280 --> 01:11:23,720
Speaker 7: going back to what they do well or what Stefanski.

1540
01:11:23,160 --> 01:11:24,080
Speaker 10: Did well when he got here.

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01:11:24,120 --> 01:11:26,679
Speaker 7: That'll be I'll be watching just like you for sure.

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01:11:27,160 --> 01:11:28,760
Speaker 6: Yeah, we got a fullback in the mix too, so

1543
01:11:28,760 --> 01:11:30,160
Speaker 6: there could be a lot of times where we have

1544
01:11:30,200 --> 01:11:32,160
Speaker 6: two running backs on the field that maybe, you know,

1545
01:11:32,160 --> 01:11:34,640
Speaker 6: we can get away with five receivers this year and

1546
01:11:34,640 --> 01:11:37,599
Speaker 6: not necessarily go into six like in years past. It's

1547
01:11:37,600 --> 01:11:40,000
Speaker 6: gonna be certainly fun. It is going to be fascinating.

1548
01:11:40,439 --> 01:11:43,040
Speaker 6: Lance does a great job at Cleveland dot Com and

1549
01:11:43,120 --> 01:11:45,320
Speaker 6: on Spectrum as well. But I like the way you

1550
01:11:45,320 --> 01:11:47,240
Speaker 6: break down the film all of that. I think it's

1551
01:11:47,280 --> 01:11:49,320
Speaker 6: it's awesome and I think people get smarter when they

1552
01:11:49,400 --> 01:11:51,400
Speaker 6: check it out. So Lance, thanks so much for the time,

1553
01:11:51,439 --> 01:11:52,960
Speaker 6: and we'll look forward to see what this thing looks

1554
01:11:52,960 --> 01:11:54,519
Speaker 6: like when everybody gets back in the mix here and

1555
01:11:54,560 --> 01:11:56,360
Speaker 6: gets rolling for training camp.

1556
01:11:57,240 --> 01:11:57,719
Speaker 10: Absolutely.

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01:11:57,800 --> 01:11:58,639
Speaker 7: I think for having me, Nath.

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01:11:58,680 --> 01:12:00,360
Speaker 10: I'll talk to you soon, buddy, you got it.

1559
01:12:00,479 --> 01:12:03,639
Speaker 6: Lance Riseland brownsfilm analyst for Cleveland dot Com, current football

1560
01:12:03,640 --> 01:12:05,679
Speaker 6: analysts for Spectrum. He joined the show via the Twisted

1561
01:12:05,720 --> 01:12:07,559
Speaker 6: Tea Hotline, brought to you by Twisted t Heard I see,

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Speaker 6: official sponsor of the Cleveland Browns. Keep it twisted Cleveland.

1563
01:12:11,479 --> 01:12:13,000
Speaker 6: All right, when we come back, get back, I have

1564
01:12:13,040 --> 01:12:15,599
Speaker 6: some news. When we come back, we got some news. Yeah,

1565
01:12:15,680 --> 01:12:18,320
Speaker 6: training camp, speaking of, we got news for you. We'll

1566
01:12:18,360 --> 01:12:20,160
Speaker 6: have it when we return here on Clevean Browns Daily.

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01:12:27,360 --> 01:12:31,040
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Speaker 6: Well, welcome back to Cleveland Brown's Daily. Nathan Zegura, Jason

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01:12:50,680 --> 01:12:53,040
Speaker 6: Gibbs with you here, final half hour ago. Want to

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01:12:53,040 --> 01:12:55,120
Speaker 6: get to your mailbag question So get them in using

1573
01:12:55,120 --> 01:12:57,760
Speaker 6: the hashtag ask CBD. You can post them on the

1574
01:12:57,760 --> 01:12:59,400
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1575
01:12:59,400 --> 01:13:01,479
Speaker 6: tweet them to me and tweet them to Gibbe. Tune

1576
01:13:01,479 --> 01:13:05,519
Speaker 6: to at Browns Underscore Daily. All of it. Let's go

1577
01:13:05,800 --> 01:13:09,360
Speaker 6: get us some questions, let's do it. In the meantime,

1578
01:13:09,439 --> 01:13:11,439
Speaker 6: we do have some news for you, as Gibbe point

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01:13:11,439 --> 01:13:15,640
Speaker 6: it out, that's right, breaking news, breaking news. The Browns

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01:13:16,360 --> 01:13:19,720
Speaker 6: Training Camp twenty twenty five, persented by Gregory Industries, will

1581
01:13:19,760 --> 01:13:23,839
Speaker 6: have eight open dates to the public, and they're quick.

1582
01:13:25,040 --> 01:13:30,320
Speaker 6: It's over by August fourth, that's right. Friday July twenty fifth,

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01:13:30,360 --> 01:13:34,320
Speaker 6: Saturday July twenty sixth, Monday July twenty eighth, Tuesday July

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01:13:34,400 --> 01:13:39,120
Speaker 6: twenty ninth, Wednesday July thirtieth, Friday August the first, Saturday

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01:13:39,160 --> 01:13:42,080
Speaker 6: August the second, and Monday August The first times for

1586
01:13:42,160 --> 01:13:47,200
Speaker 6: those are on Friday July twenty fifth, two pm, Saturday

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01:13:47,240 --> 01:13:49,520
Speaker 6: July twenty sixth nine thirty am.

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01:13:49,600 --> 01:13:52,120
Speaker 2: That's right, nine to thirty in the morning, a couple

1589
01:13:52,280 --> 01:13:54,040
Speaker 2: morning practices.

1590
01:13:53,720 --> 01:13:57,559
Speaker 6: Monday July twenty eighth two pm, Tuesday July twenty ninth

1591
01:13:57,600 --> 01:14:02,639
Speaker 6: two pm, Wednesday July thirtieth, nine am, Friday August first,

1592
01:14:02,680 --> 01:14:07,439
Speaker 6: two pm, Saturday August second, nine thirty pm, Monday August nine,

1593
01:14:07,800 --> 01:14:10,559
Speaker 6: a thank you, and Monday, August fourth, two pm, and

1594
01:14:10,560 --> 01:14:12,080
Speaker 6: then we hit the road to Carolina.

1595
01:14:12,640 --> 01:14:16,479
Speaker 2: That's right. Yeah, Tuesday the fifth will be a travel

1596
01:14:16,520 --> 01:14:20,559
Speaker 2: day to Carolina joint practice on Wednesday Thursday, kind of

1597
01:14:20,560 --> 01:14:23,920
Speaker 2: that day in between walk through day and we'll be

1598
01:14:24,200 --> 01:14:27,200
Speaker 2: live from Carolina somewhere, probably my hotel room. And then

1599
01:14:27,560 --> 01:14:28,479
Speaker 2: Friday's game day.

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01:14:28,560 --> 01:14:29,840
Speaker 6: Ye's gonna call it vacation.

1601
01:14:32,080 --> 01:14:33,320
Speaker 2: Hey, he is going to call it vacation.

1602
01:14:33,360 --> 01:14:36,920
Speaker 6: Yeah, he's there. So those are true. Those are the dates.

1603
01:14:37,120 --> 01:14:40,080
Speaker 6: That's when you got to get it in for Brown's

1604
01:14:40,120 --> 01:14:42,000
Speaker 6: training camp. It's going to be kind of right out

1605
01:14:42,000 --> 01:14:43,280
Speaker 6: of the gate and you'll really, I think, get to

1606
01:14:43,320 --> 01:14:47,040
Speaker 6: see this team, you know, take shape twenty fifth, twenty six,

1607
01:14:47,160 --> 01:14:50,320
Speaker 6: twenty eighth, twenty ninth, thirtieth, first, second, and fourth.

1608
01:14:50,400 --> 01:14:52,760
Speaker 2: So here's the deal. Tickets will be available to the

1609
01:14:52,760 --> 01:14:57,920
Speaker 2: public Thursday, July third, one week from today, at ten

1610
01:14:58,240 --> 01:15:03,240
Speaker 2: am Eastern Time. Brown's season ticket members will have an

1611
01:15:03,280 --> 01:15:06,599
Speaker 2: advanced twenty four window to reserve their tickets on Wednesday,

1612
01:15:06,680 --> 01:15:11,080
Speaker 2: July second. Each account is limited to four tickets to

1613
01:15:11,160 --> 01:15:16,879
Speaker 2: one individual session and cannot claim for multiple sessions. Similar

1614
01:15:16,880 --> 01:15:20,120
Speaker 2: to home games at Huntington bank Field, printed tickets will

1615
01:15:20,120 --> 01:15:24,040
Speaker 2: not be available. There are multiple theme days for all

1616
01:15:24,120 --> 01:15:29,240
Speaker 2: these practices, highlighting local groups, organizations, and providing fans fun

1617
01:15:29,320 --> 01:15:34,639
Speaker 2: and specialized activities. Dog Pound Excel on Friday, July twenty fifth.

1618
01:15:35,120 --> 01:15:38,400
Speaker 2: Back together weekends Saturday, July twenty sixth. That's where every

1619
01:15:38,400 --> 01:15:42,320
Speaker 2: team's got practice at the same time for the most part,

1620
01:15:42,400 --> 01:15:46,559
Speaker 2: and everybody NFL networks all over the place. Lavelle great,

1621
01:15:46,880 --> 01:15:48,760
Speaker 2: it's on vacation. Good for ends. When I was the

1622
01:15:48,800 --> 01:15:52,320
Speaker 2: last day for the cafe, I know, be tough next week.

1623
01:15:52,360 --> 01:15:55,320
Speaker 6: By the way, the Browns open the season on September seventh,

1624
01:15:55,360 --> 01:15:57,000
Speaker 6: so that means they will not be in front of

1625
01:15:57,040 --> 01:16:01,320
Speaker 6: the fans other than the home preseason on the twenty third,

1626
01:16:01,479 --> 01:16:04,040
Speaker 6: on the twenty third of August. From August fourth until

1627
01:16:04,080 --> 01:16:09,280
Speaker 6: that opener against Ceciliano's Rams. Yeah, that's right.

1628
01:16:09,840 --> 01:16:13,280
Speaker 2: University Hospitals Rainbow Day is Monday, the twenty eight. Tuesday

1629
01:16:13,280 --> 01:16:16,879
Speaker 2: of the twenty ninth is Military Appreciation. Wednesday the thirtieth

1630
01:16:16,880 --> 01:16:20,799
Speaker 2: is Stay in the Game Attendance Network Youth Football Day Friday,

1631
01:16:20,840 --> 01:16:22,760
Speaker 2: August first. That'll be a big day. There'll be a

1632
01:16:22,760 --> 01:16:27,120
Speaker 2: lot of kids here. Saturday, August second, brownsbackers and Monday,

1633
01:16:27,160 --> 01:16:32,439
Speaker 2: August fourth, Orange and Brown some of the other big

1634
01:16:32,920 --> 01:16:36,400
Speaker 2: big things going on. Let's see. By the way, I

1635
01:16:36,400 --> 01:16:39,320
Speaker 2: don't mind that. I don't mind that that dog logo.

1636
01:16:40,280 --> 01:16:42,240
Speaker 6: I liked it. That's a dog Pound XCEL logo.

1637
01:16:42,479 --> 01:16:43,320
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1638
01:16:43,680 --> 01:16:45,559
Speaker 6: For the fortieth anniversary of the dog Pound.

1639
01:16:45,760 --> 01:16:50,120
Speaker 2: That's right, Complimenting fan favorite engagements from past years, The

1640
01:16:50,160 --> 01:16:53,720
Speaker 2: Puppy Pound presented by Sugardale the forty yard Dash, Brown's

1641
01:16:53,760 --> 01:16:57,280
Speaker 2: Pro Shop with exclusive dog Pound x EL gear in

1642
01:16:57,400 --> 01:17:01,200
Speaker 2: celebration of the fortieth anniversary of the dog Ara Mark

1643
01:17:01,280 --> 01:17:04,759
Speaker 2: Food and beverage, snack shacks as well as food trucks

1644
01:17:04,840 --> 01:17:09,320
Speaker 2: encompassing the area showcase and supporting Northeast Ohio businesses. I

1645
01:17:09,360 --> 01:17:12,400
Speaker 2: know people want more practices out here. Here's the problem.

1646
01:17:12,600 --> 01:17:16,280
Speaker 2: We're on the road for basically two weeks and there's

1647
01:17:16,320 --> 01:17:18,320
Speaker 2: a lot of construction that's going to be kicking off.

1648
01:17:18,360 --> 01:17:21,200
Speaker 2: I've noticed they are moving a lot of things into

1649
01:17:21,240 --> 01:17:24,000
Speaker 2: position here to start, and I'm assuming they will start

1650
01:17:24,520 --> 01:17:27,960
Speaker 2: next week when things really thin out in this building,

1651
01:17:28,240 --> 01:17:31,320
Speaker 2: and then we're off completely. As I was telling the

1652
01:17:31,360 --> 01:17:36,800
Speaker 2: audience earlier, the week after the fifth, so I would

1653
01:17:36,840 --> 01:17:39,519
Speaker 2: think there'll be a lot of construction. The one side

1654
01:17:39,520 --> 01:17:42,320
Speaker 2: of the one side of the practice field will not

1655
01:17:42,439 --> 01:17:45,679
Speaker 2: be usable at all. We're moving radio row, no pressure,

1656
01:17:46,560 --> 01:17:49,720
Speaker 2: and where are we going to be. We're working through that.

1657
01:17:50,680 --> 01:17:53,040
Speaker 2: If anybody can figure it out, it is the fabulous

1658
01:17:53,120 --> 01:17:56,720
Speaker 2: Mackenzie Fairfield. Thank god she's on our side. Yeah, well

1659
01:17:56,760 --> 01:17:58,400
Speaker 2: we got listen. I mean, we have a lot of

1660
01:17:58,400 --> 01:18:00,759
Speaker 2: those practices at two pm.

1661
01:18:01,240 --> 01:18:04,040
Speaker 6: I'm aware while we're there, right during the show, right

1662
01:18:04,160 --> 01:18:06,240
Speaker 6: during the show. So we'll be We'll give you coverage.

1663
01:18:06,040 --> 01:18:08,760
Speaker 2: That I like. I like a couple of mornings. I

1664
01:18:08,880 --> 01:18:11,000
Speaker 2: like a couple of mornings. Might even be able to

1665
01:18:11,040 --> 01:18:12,519
Speaker 2: make a golf league. Then still, I.

1666
01:18:12,520 --> 01:18:14,599
Speaker 6: Ain't thirty am on a Saturday a bit early.

1667
01:18:15,520 --> 01:18:16,280
Speaker 4: That's a bit early.

1668
01:18:16,320 --> 01:18:20,439
Speaker 2: Gibe with all. I've got a new boy. One o'clock

1669
01:18:20,520 --> 01:18:24,080
Speaker 2: practice on Saturday for him was early.

1670
01:18:24,280 --> 01:18:25,240
Speaker 6: I'm a totally different guy.

1671
01:18:25,320 --> 01:18:26,559
Speaker 2: What are you talking about, jod.

1672
01:18:27,160 --> 01:18:30,040
Speaker 6: I'll play golf at nine in the morning. Now, I'm

1673
01:18:30,080 --> 01:18:30,920
Speaker 6: not afraid.

1674
01:18:31,680 --> 01:18:34,400
Speaker 2: I know, I'm kind of torn because I do love

1675
01:18:34,479 --> 01:18:35,559
Speaker 2: the golf late day.

1676
01:18:35,760 --> 01:18:37,120
Speaker 6: Oh it's the best one o'clock.

1677
01:18:37,280 --> 01:18:41,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, but then it takes Yeah, I become the golf guy,

1678
01:18:41,840 --> 01:18:43,080
Speaker 2: and I am no big fan.

1679
01:18:43,880 --> 01:18:47,479
Speaker 6: My scores are better if I t off between like

1680
01:18:47,600 --> 01:18:48,880
Speaker 6: eleven and two.

1681
01:18:49,320 --> 01:18:54,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right. Novel concept, Yeah, yeah, I don't know.

1682
01:18:54,200 --> 01:18:56,960
Speaker 6: That's my best. That's definitely my best time toff. All right,

1683
01:18:57,040 --> 01:19:00,000
Speaker 6: when we come back, let's get in the mail bag.

1684
01:19:00,000 --> 01:19:02,240
Speaker 6: Get some questions out there again. You can tweet me,

1685
01:19:02,360 --> 01:19:05,920
Speaker 6: you can tweet gibbe, hashtag as CBD, get them out

1686
01:19:05,960 --> 01:19:08,080
Speaker 6: there on the YouTube chat all of it. We'll go through.

1687
01:19:08,120 --> 01:19:09,519
Speaker 6: We'll have a little fun here as we wrap it

1688
01:19:09,600 --> 01:19:12,040
Speaker 6: up on a Thursday. With the training camp schedule behind us,

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01:19:12,080 --> 01:19:14,719
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Speaker 2: Yeah, because we had the five oh couple.

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Speaker 3: Again.

1705
01:20:11,160 --> 01:20:14,120
Speaker 6: We got questions on YouTube, questions on X at Browns

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Speaker 6: Underscore Daily. I got one right here that I think

1707
01:20:17,280 --> 01:20:18,640
Speaker 6: I'll start with this one cause I think this is

1708
01:20:18,640 --> 01:20:21,040
Speaker 6: actually an interesting one and an interesting topic. And I

1709
01:20:21,040 --> 01:20:23,880
Speaker 6: talked about from Jared Lougan Bill. He says, how cool

1710
01:20:23,920 --> 01:20:26,000
Speaker 6: can you see AI playing in the Browns operation both

1711
01:20:26,000 --> 01:20:29,920
Speaker 6: on and off the field or is it already? So

1712
01:20:30,240 --> 01:20:32,280
Speaker 6: my guess this is a guest and this is a

1713
01:20:32,360 --> 01:20:35,439
Speaker 6: question that I will ask when we get everybody back here,

1714
01:20:35,479 --> 01:20:37,559
Speaker 6: that I'll ask the people at the top of the organization.

1715
01:20:37,640 --> 01:20:39,800
Speaker 6: But my guess is Browns have always been kind of

1716
01:20:40,320 --> 01:20:44,760
Speaker 6: analytically driven and at least analytically minded, and I think

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01:20:44,840 --> 01:20:48,880
Speaker 6: that there will be a lot of ways that it

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01:20:48,920 --> 01:20:51,960
Speaker 6: will be integrated in terms of I think it's probably

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01:20:51,960 --> 01:20:54,120
Speaker 6: a quick way to find tendencies. It's a quick way

1720
01:20:54,120 --> 01:20:56,679
Speaker 6: to do some scouting. We saw, you know, our our

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01:20:56,800 --> 01:21:00,599
Speaker 6: Man of the People content Browns do AI scouting reports

1722
01:21:00,640 --> 01:21:03,760
Speaker 6: of all the quarterbacks, and it was really impressive how

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01:21:03,800 --> 01:21:05,160
Speaker 6: quickly is able to do it. And I think that

1724
01:21:05,240 --> 01:21:07,760
Speaker 6: you will have I think every team will have some

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01:21:07,920 --> 01:21:08,360
Speaker 6: fort of it.

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01:21:08,840 --> 01:21:09,080
Speaker 4: Now.

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01:21:09,120 --> 01:21:12,479
Speaker 6: I think what people are forgetting is that these are

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01:21:12,520 --> 01:21:15,400
Speaker 6: not games played in simulations, and that it still comes

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01:21:15,400 --> 01:21:18,600
Speaker 6: down to human execution. You can have all the right information,

1730
01:21:19,000 --> 01:21:22,080
Speaker 6: but if you do not execute it properly, it doesn't matter.

1731
01:21:22,200 --> 01:21:24,720
Speaker 6: That's not say that it's not important. I think what

1732
01:21:24,800 --> 01:21:29,040
Speaker 6: it can do is significantly trim some areas of staffs

1733
01:21:29,080 --> 01:21:33,160
Speaker 6: and create efficiencies where perhaps because of it, just the

1734
01:21:33,200 --> 01:21:35,400
Speaker 6: fact that AI is able to do things so quickly

1735
01:21:35,600 --> 01:21:39,120
Speaker 6: and so wide and rapidly and drill down that you know,

1736
01:21:39,200 --> 01:21:44,400
Speaker 6: maybe you'll see scouting if they can train AI, for example,

1737
01:21:44,439 --> 01:21:49,800
Speaker 6: to shove hours of film in and spit out actionable things. Now,

1738
01:21:49,840 --> 01:21:52,240
Speaker 6: it'll take a while for there to be verification that

1739
01:21:52,280 --> 01:21:55,400
Speaker 6: what it's saying to you is correct, that it's directionally

1740
01:21:55,439 --> 01:21:57,559
Speaker 6: correct at least, but I think you could see it

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01:21:57,600 --> 01:22:01,960
Speaker 6: replace some of maybe the monstrous you know, scouting departments

1742
01:22:02,000 --> 01:22:04,920
Speaker 6: and film watching departments in NFL operations. You still need

1743
01:22:04,920 --> 01:22:06,320
Speaker 6: area of scouts. You're still going to need to go

1744
01:22:06,360 --> 01:22:08,320
Speaker 6: and talk to people and get that human reaction. But

1745
01:22:08,800 --> 01:22:11,080
Speaker 6: I think from that, and then from game plan standpoints.

1746
01:22:11,280 --> 01:22:13,759
Speaker 6: You know, there's AI models in that article I was reading,

1747
01:22:13,760 --> 01:22:16,200
Speaker 6: and we can talk about that maybe tomorrow. You know,

1748
01:22:16,240 --> 01:22:19,599
Speaker 6: where it can it'll not only it'll analyze everything about

1749
01:22:19,600 --> 01:22:22,600
Speaker 6: an opponent's defense and their tendencies and personnel groupings and

1750
01:22:22,640 --> 01:22:25,000
Speaker 6: blah blah blah what they do in certain situations and

1751
01:22:25,040 --> 01:22:27,600
Speaker 6: not only prevent produce a game plan, but produce a

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01:22:27,600 --> 01:22:30,320
Speaker 6: call sheet for the for the coach. So it's like,

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01:22:30,320 --> 01:22:32,559
Speaker 6: all right, in these situations, here are the plays you

1754
01:22:32,600 --> 01:22:34,280
Speaker 6: still have to execute. But I do think it's a

1755
01:22:34,320 --> 01:22:38,200
Speaker 6: pretty fascinating things. I think that you still have to

1756
01:22:38,200 --> 01:22:41,000
Speaker 6: be able to execute. The game is so fast, but

1757
01:22:41,040 --> 01:22:43,040
Speaker 6: I think in terms of preparation, I think really in

1758
01:22:43,200 --> 01:22:47,360
Speaker 6: scouting and even for coaches, I think you could get

1759
01:22:47,400 --> 01:22:50,840
Speaker 6: like AI could maybe give you here's what they've done

1760
01:22:50,880 --> 01:22:53,519
Speaker 6: in every situation so far this game. You know, and

1761
01:22:53,560 --> 01:22:55,040
Speaker 6: have that at your head. Okay, so what what have

1762
01:22:55,040 --> 01:22:56,639
Speaker 6: they done when we're in third and seven or more

1763
01:22:56,680 --> 01:22:58,000
Speaker 6: so far this game? If you're in like the third

1764
01:22:58,040 --> 01:22:59,800
Speaker 6: quarter and it's been like, all right, they've done from

1765
01:22:59,840 --> 01:23:03,280
Speaker 6: this down a distance on this hash, They've done this

1766
01:23:03,439 --> 01:23:05,160
Speaker 6: four times, So then you have that in your mind.

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01:23:05,200 --> 01:23:05,439
Speaker 2: Now.

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01:23:05,600 --> 01:23:07,800
Speaker 6: The thing is if everybody has it, then it becomes

1769
01:23:07,880 --> 01:23:10,160
Speaker 6: back to sure the cat and mouse game of you

1770
01:23:10,240 --> 01:23:11,800
Speaker 6: know that I know that, you know that, I know

1771
01:23:11,920 --> 01:23:13,280
Speaker 6: so I know that you know that I know that

1772
01:23:13,320 --> 01:23:15,160
Speaker 6: you know that I know. So I have to act

1773
01:23:15,160 --> 01:23:17,280
Speaker 6: a different way or maybe act the same way because

1774
01:23:17,320 --> 01:23:18,439
Speaker 6: you know that I know that. You know that I know,

1775
01:23:19,040 --> 01:23:20,680
Speaker 6: and I know that you know. So I don't know,

1776
01:23:20,880 --> 01:23:23,080
Speaker 6: but I do think it is I definitely think it

1777
01:23:23,120 --> 01:23:25,000
Speaker 6: will be something that will be looked at. And as

1778
01:23:25,040 --> 01:23:27,880
Speaker 6: I said, you know, Content browns to me right now,

1779
01:23:28,120 --> 01:23:30,639
Speaker 6: he's somebody honestly like I would even I would talk

1780
01:23:30,680 --> 01:23:34,280
Speaker 6: to I would say, hey, you did this, Zigura thought

1781
01:23:34,280 --> 01:23:36,280
Speaker 6: it was cool and I did. What else? Do you

1782
01:23:36,280 --> 01:23:37,800
Speaker 6: think this is all right? We'll find out.

1783
01:23:38,200 --> 01:23:44,120
Speaker 2: Travis Vanderhurst tweets at the show. Okay, congratulations on your

1784
01:23:44,120 --> 01:23:47,080
Speaker 2: new baby boy. Thank you. My question is what, in

1785
01:23:47,120 --> 01:23:50,479
Speaker 2: your opinion is the two first round picks next year

1786
01:23:50,600 --> 01:23:52,160
Speaker 2: used on go Brown's baby?

1787
01:23:54,160 --> 01:23:56,760
Speaker 6: What will what positions will the two first round picks

1788
01:23:56,800 --> 01:23:57,920
Speaker 6: be used on next year?

1789
01:23:58,640 --> 01:23:58,840
Speaker 2: Right?

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01:23:59,080 --> 01:24:06,640
Speaker 6: Yes, I'm just going to give you, like some groups

1791
01:24:07,360 --> 01:24:13,360
Speaker 6: like receiver, look quarterback obviously has to be in the discussion.

1792
01:24:13,400 --> 01:24:15,000
Speaker 6: But let's hope that it isn't right. Let's hope that

1793
01:24:15,000 --> 01:24:16,800
Speaker 6: that's not what it has to be on. I would

1794
01:24:16,800 --> 01:24:21,080
Speaker 6: love Caleb Downs and then either a receiver, a defensive

1795
01:24:21,200 --> 01:24:25,360
Speaker 6: end or an offensive tackle. I feel like that's probably

1796
01:24:25,360 --> 01:24:28,080
Speaker 6: where you could be looking right there now. A corner

1797
01:24:28,200 --> 01:24:30,360
Speaker 6: is a possibility if because's got Denzel, you got MJ.

1798
01:24:30,680 --> 01:24:32,240
Speaker 6: And that's what we talked about yesterday, that you want

1799
01:24:32,280 --> 01:24:33,840
Speaker 6: to see when these young guys step up and show

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01:24:33,880 --> 01:24:36,400
Speaker 6: that you know they can be the guys to carry

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01:24:36,400 --> 01:24:38,599
Speaker 6: that position forward when it's unlikely that you'll be able

1802
01:24:38,600 --> 01:24:41,400
Speaker 6: to bring all three back of your starters again next year.

1803
01:24:42,760 --> 01:24:44,200
Speaker 6: So that could be in the mix as well. But

1804
01:24:44,240 --> 01:24:46,200
Speaker 6: that's kind of that's that's where I would be looking

1805
01:24:46,240 --> 01:24:48,879
Speaker 6: at it if I was the Cleveland Browns right now.

1806
01:24:48,880 --> 01:24:51,720
Speaker 2: Dog Pound Cleveland brown Do you guys know if there

1807
01:24:51,840 --> 01:24:55,280
Speaker 2: is anywhere downtown that sells Joe Thomas's seventy three Cole

1808
01:24:55,360 --> 01:24:58,880
Speaker 2: Spear Great Lakes Brewing Company, yep, is this place.

1809
01:24:58,680 --> 01:25:00,720
Speaker 6: That's the place they make it. I'm sure he'll be

1810
01:25:00,760 --> 01:25:03,400
Speaker 6: here at some point for an event.

1811
01:25:03,880 --> 01:25:06,360
Speaker 2: He was here like last year, yeah for like some

1812
01:25:06,880 --> 01:25:10,599
Speaker 2: yeah with mister Alrich shout out na yeah an.

1813
01:25:10,439 --> 01:25:12,520
Speaker 6: Akron for like the Akron High School.

1814
01:25:12,960 --> 01:25:18,479
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, okay, yeah, fine, repairing fences, going

1815
01:25:18,479 --> 01:25:21,840
Speaker 2: to Akron to do high school, but not coming here

1816
01:25:21,840 --> 01:25:24,360
Speaker 2: to say Hi. Well, I'm that's right angry.

1817
01:25:24,520 --> 01:25:27,720
Speaker 6: I'm locked in, locked in on turkeys, just totally locked.

1818
01:25:27,640 --> 01:25:29,200
Speaker 2: Okay, Victor, run what up?

1819
01:25:29,200 --> 01:25:29,439
Speaker 6: Boys?

1820
01:25:29,479 --> 01:25:31,000
Speaker 2: If you were giving a free day to do anything,

1821
01:25:31,040 --> 01:25:32,040
Speaker 2: what are you spending your day on?

1822
01:25:35,400 --> 01:25:44,599
Speaker 6: A combination of the family, friends, golf, food that is good, wine,

1823
01:25:45,520 --> 01:25:51,680
Speaker 6: maybe at margarita, maybe just playing tequila. Maybe some Mitchell's

1824
01:25:51,720 --> 01:25:54,519
Speaker 6: since I've had to go away. Mitchell's banana cream pieh

1825
01:25:54,520 --> 01:25:56,040
Speaker 6: ice cream is actually very good.

1826
01:25:57,080 --> 01:25:59,880
Speaker 2: There you go, little golf in the morning, little pool

1827
01:26:00,120 --> 01:26:03,000
Speaker 2: afternoon with the fan, nice dinner at night. There you go,

1828
01:26:03,520 --> 01:26:08,040
Speaker 2: usually my Florida trips. H that's great. Yeah. On the

1829
01:26:08,120 --> 01:26:13,200
Speaker 2: YouTube channel Cleveland Browns dot com slash msryutube dot com,

1830
01:26:13,200 --> 01:26:17,479
Speaker 2: slash Browns Yep, it's where we're streaming this and every day. Yes,

1831
01:26:17,600 --> 01:26:22,759
Speaker 2: Chris h Nate has twelve had any first team reps.

1832
01:26:22,880 --> 01:26:25,280
Speaker 2: I know you're tracking all the practices. We aren't privy to.

1833
01:26:27,240 --> 01:26:29,080
Speaker 2: Uh actually, I don't think we are.

1834
01:26:29,880 --> 01:26:32,920
Speaker 6: Well, I am, but right now for what's open to

1835
01:26:32,960 --> 01:26:35,120
Speaker 6: the media. But I think that those will be coming.

1836
01:26:35,840 --> 01:26:37,320
Speaker 6: I think those will be coming. If he's gonna have

1837
01:26:37,360 --> 01:26:39,200
Speaker 6: first team reps, I think they are in the future.

1838
01:26:39,960 --> 01:26:43,800
Speaker 2: All right, Another person reaches out, if you were to

1839
01:26:43,840 --> 01:26:46,200
Speaker 2: make a movie out of a video game, what would

1840
01:26:46,240 --> 01:26:47,679
Speaker 2: it be and who is the star?

1841
01:26:51,320 --> 01:26:55,880
Speaker 6: So well, boy, this is a good one. I would

1842
01:26:55,920 --> 01:26:59,479
Speaker 6: love to make a movie out of Fortnite, which in

1843
01:26:59,520 --> 01:27:02,760
Speaker 6: some ways is kind of like it would really be

1844
01:27:02,800 --> 01:27:05,040
Speaker 6: a movie that's very similar to why my blanking on

1845
01:27:05,080 --> 01:27:10,559
Speaker 6: those ones with Jennifer Lawrence is the star to kill

1846
01:27:10,560 --> 01:27:14,120
Speaker 6: a mockingbird? Hunger Games. It's kind of Hunger Games in essence.

1847
01:27:14,360 --> 01:27:18,400
Speaker 6: One hundred people get dropped onto an island and only

1848
01:27:18,439 --> 01:27:21,280
Speaker 6: one gets to survive, and there's a poisonous storm or whatever.

1849
01:27:21,360 --> 01:27:22,760
Speaker 6: I just think I think that could That would be

1850
01:27:22,760 --> 01:27:26,599
Speaker 6: an easy, fun movie to try to figure out who won, how, what, why?

1851
01:27:26,640 --> 01:27:28,000
Speaker 6: All of it? I think it would be. I think

1852
01:27:28,000 --> 01:27:30,479
Speaker 6: four I would be a it be just a banger

1853
01:27:30,520 --> 01:27:31,599
Speaker 6: action movie.

1854
01:27:32,960 --> 01:27:37,680
Speaker 2: The complainer asked, what is the worst uniform we've ever had?

1855
01:27:40,640 --> 01:27:42,400
Speaker 6: I mean, come on, it's the uniforms that we had

1856
01:27:42,439 --> 01:27:43,400
Speaker 6: and we don't have anymore.

1857
01:27:45,040 --> 01:27:51,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right, that's it. Yeah, those are tough. Yeah

1858
01:27:51,520 --> 01:27:55,120
Speaker 2: that you couldn't read the numbers. Tough, tough, oh man.

1859
01:27:55,160 --> 01:27:57,639
Speaker 6: And when we had for a while, I want to say,

1860
01:27:57,640 --> 01:28:02,320
Speaker 6: at some point during that we had Andrew Hawkins in sixteen,

1861
01:28:03,479 --> 01:28:05,480
Speaker 6: and Taylor Gabriel in eighteen.

1862
01:28:05,360 --> 01:28:10,000
Speaker 2: Corey Coleman in nineteen and Jim it was a drive

1863
01:28:10,120 --> 01:28:14,880
Speaker 2: gym nuts. Yeah, that's an understate nuts. Yeah. And we've

1864
01:28:14,920 --> 01:28:17,960
Speaker 2: cleaned that up quite nicely. Yes, it's done. Well, that's it.

1865
01:28:17,960 --> 01:28:19,000
Speaker 2: That's today's mailbag.

1866
01:28:19,240 --> 01:28:19,519
Speaker 10: All right.

1867
01:28:19,560 --> 01:28:20,559
Speaker 2: We'll get to more tomorrow.

1868
01:28:20,640 --> 01:28:23,719
Speaker 6: All right, so much more to come as we wrap

1869
01:28:23,760 --> 01:28:25,920
Speaker 6: it up here on a Thursday, get ready to join

1870
01:28:25,960 --> 01:28:31,679
Speaker 6: the Kyid for a little golfing glory. Let's go. All right,

1871
01:28:31,840 --> 01:28:33,559
Speaker 6: thank you guys, we'll be back more. Wrapping it up here.

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01:28:33,640 --> 01:28:35,400
Speaker 6: Cleve Browns Daily brought to you by Bally Bet on

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Speaker 6: All Right, everybody, have a glorious Thursday.

1878
01:29:00,640 --> 01:29:00,920
Speaker 4: Will be?

1879
01:29:01,080 --> 01:29:03,880
Speaker 6: We hold out for you, I hope. So don't even speak.

1880
01:29:04,400 --> 01:29:07,160
Speaker 6: It's rained every single Thursday, so don't even speak that.

1881
01:29:07,280 --> 01:29:10,560
Speaker 6: I want no rain today. I want to have good times,

1882
01:29:10,760 --> 01:29:12,400
Speaker 6: glorious times out there.

1883
01:29:12,479 --> 01:29:14,160
Speaker 2: There's a lot happening all of a sudden.

1884
01:29:15,240 --> 01:29:15,800
Speaker 4: Wait, what.

1885
01:29:17,280 --> 01:29:20,720
Speaker 6: Don't be a thief of joy. Nobody wants this. Hold on,

1886
01:29:20,800 --> 01:29:22,000
Speaker 6: let me go. I gotta go to my I gotta

1887
01:29:22,040 --> 01:29:23,360
Speaker 6: go ask you whether pop up?

1888
01:29:23,400 --> 01:29:25,800
Speaker 2: It's a pop up here there, dude, it could be

1889
01:29:25,920 --> 01:29:26,599
Speaker 2: there and gone.

1890
01:29:27,000 --> 01:29:27,960
Speaker 6: Let's see what says here.

1891
01:29:28,200 --> 01:29:31,639
Speaker 2: We've got we should be good, dude.

1892
01:29:32,080 --> 01:29:35,679
Speaker 6: Thirty eight twenty eight percent, at five twenty eight percent,

1893
01:29:35,720 --> 01:29:38,160
Speaker 6: at six thirty four percent, seven, it doesn't get even

1894
01:29:38,200 --> 01:29:43,000
Speaker 6: to fifty percent until like eight pm. So I feel

1895
01:29:43,000 --> 01:29:46,880
Speaker 6: pretty darn good about that. I feel good about that. Yeah,

1896
01:29:46,920 --> 01:29:50,000
Speaker 6: we'll wrap up the week tomorrow. Linebacker room, coach tarbor.

1897
01:29:50,240 --> 01:29:52,800
Speaker 2: Oh, we've got what. We've got a few other things too.

1898
01:29:52,840 --> 01:29:53,960
Speaker 6: Yeah, Brack's gotta loaded up.

1899
01:29:54,000 --> 01:29:56,479
Speaker 2: You have Brock. We loaded Yeah, we're good.

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01:29:56,800 --> 01:29:57,599
Speaker 6: Yeah, we got a lot.

1901
01:29:57,840 --> 01:30:00,720
Speaker 2: We got a lot. Yeah, we got interview, We've got

1902
01:30:01,360 --> 01:30:03,120
Speaker 2: we have things that didn't make the cut for the

1903
01:30:03,160 --> 01:30:07,040
Speaker 2: best best of week. Maybe you're welcome.

1904
01:30:07,080 --> 01:30:08,639
Speaker 6: Maybe we just put one and put them all together.

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01:30:08,680 --> 01:30:12,439
Speaker 6: Tomorrow we'll see on down the road. I don't think

1906
01:30:12,479 --> 01:30:14,800
Speaker 6: trying to tend to my young son, give it's only

1907
01:30:14,840 --> 01:30:16,080
Speaker 6: seventeen days old, Luca.

1908
01:30:17,040 --> 01:30:18,840
Speaker 2: I think there's a whole army of people, there's a

1909
01:30:18,920 --> 01:30:20,120
Speaker 2: village to help raise.

1910
01:30:20,000 --> 01:30:25,360
Speaker 6: Him, no doubt. Nana there, Nana has been off the charts. Nanna,

1911
01:30:26,000 --> 01:30:27,360
Speaker 6: there'll be a statue of you someday.

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01:30:27,400 --> 01:30:27,639
Speaker 4: Dana.

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01:30:27,840 --> 01:30:28,280
Speaker 2: There you go.

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Speaker 6: It is true, all right, Next levels next. Thanks to

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01:30:31,320 --> 01:30:34,960
Speaker 6: Lance Riseland for joining us here today. Enjoy that forgib

1916
01:30:35,000 --> 01:30:36,479
Speaker 6: Mee Nathan san Griss, and thanks for listening to Clean

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