WEBVTT - In Squid Game, There's No Time to Die 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:02.360 All of you listen to this podcast are living on 0:00:02.400 --> 0:00:05.760 the edge with spoilers you just can't ignore. When we 0:00:05.800 --> 0:00:07.800 first made pods for you, none of you trusted us. 0:00:07.840 --> 0:00:09.680 But as you know, we made episodes and you listened 0:00:09.680 --> 0:00:12.399 to them, so everyone here trusted us to tell you. 0:00:12.440 --> 0:00:15.600 This episode contained spoilers for Squid Game, for the new 0:00:15.720 --> 0:00:20.040 James Bond Double O seven picture, No Time to Die, 0:00:21.800 --> 0:00:25.600 as well as a whole lot more, and so who knows, 0:00:25.720 --> 0:00:29.280 honestly what else we might talk about, so be warned. 0:00:39.800 --> 0:00:40.120 Hello. 0:00:40.560 --> 0:00:43.440 I am Jason Stepsione and welcome to episode seven of 0:00:43.880 --> 0:00:46.400 x ray Vision, the Crookeet Podcast, when we dive deep 0:00:46.400 --> 0:00:49.239 into your favorite shows, movies, comics, and pop culture. On 0:00:49.400 --> 0:00:52.920 today's Previously on we'll talk about the latest Bond film 0:00:52.960 --> 0:00:55.240 No Time to Die. In the airlock, we will dive 0:00:55.280 --> 0:00:58.800 deep into the Netflix sensation Squid Game, and in the endgame, 0:00:58.840 --> 0:01:01.200 we will choose our own dead the game to be 0:01:01.240 --> 0:01:03.400 a part of. You won't want to miss out. But first, 0:01:03.480 --> 0:01:07.160 let's say Loadered, today's co host, pop culture clairvoyant, the 0:01:07.200 --> 0:01:10.560 Great Rosie Night. Rosie, what was your favorite children's game? 0:01:13.360 --> 0:01:15.760 I was like thinking a lot about this. I wasn't 0:01:15.800 --> 0:01:17.920 really like an active kid. So I'm gonna say like 0:01:18.080 --> 0:01:20.000 dot count because I used to love going to my 0:01:20.000 --> 0:01:23.960 friend's hoss and playing dot coun but because of squid games, 0:01:24.040 --> 0:01:27.640 I will reveal the English or at least London regional 0:01:27.680 --> 0:01:31.160 title for red Light Green Light, which is what's the 0:01:31.200 --> 0:01:32.200 time missed the Wolf? 0:01:32.520 --> 0:01:33.080 So that's the. 0:01:34.640 --> 0:01:36.600 Exactly, it's like the most English to ever. What was 0:01:36.640 --> 0:01:37.880 your favorite chardhood game? 0:01:38.240 --> 0:01:41.000 Kick the Can? Do you ever play Kick the Can? No? 0:01:41.800 --> 0:01:42.760 So kick the Can? 0:01:43.000 --> 0:01:46.760 Uh it figures in If you want to see a 0:01:46.760 --> 0:01:48.880 good version of Kick the Can, it is in the 0:01:48.920 --> 0:01:54.600 Twilight Zone movie from the eighties. Uh directed by John 0:01:54.680 --> 0:02:00.240 landis famous for the deaths of Uh, an actor and 0:02:00.760 --> 0:02:05.400 two child actors on set during a particularly harrowing helicopter scene, 0:02:05.840 --> 0:02:08.320 but there is a brief snippet of Kick the Can 0:02:08.360 --> 0:02:10.000 in there. It's kind of like hide and go seek 0:02:10.000 --> 0:02:13.480 in that one person is it, or the person or 0:02:13.480 --> 0:02:15.800 the jailer sometimes and there is a can or a 0:02:15.840 --> 0:02:17.720 bottle we use, like a two liter bottle of like 0:02:17.760 --> 0:02:22.280 Hawaiian punch. Everyone would go hide, right and then the 0:02:22.280 --> 0:02:25.200 person who's it then has to go around and find 0:02:25.200 --> 0:02:27.520 people and they have to stay in this like circle 0:02:27.639 --> 0:02:31.400 around the can, and so they would say, like tap 0:02:31.400 --> 0:02:36.080 tap tap, I see Jason hiding behind a tree, and 0:02:36.160 --> 0:02:38.720 if he sees you, you then have to go stand 0:02:38.760 --> 0:02:42.720 with him in this circle around the can. Now, if 0:02:43.400 --> 0:02:48.679 someone manages to like run up before the person who 0:02:48.760 --> 0:02:51.040 is it can say tap tap tap, I see so 0:02:51.120 --> 0:02:53.959 and so I see Rosie running toward me, and they 0:02:54.080 --> 0:02:58.720 kick the can before that full statement is uttered. Everyone 0:02:58.840 --> 0:03:01.440 is free, and then the person has to then go 0:03:01.960 --> 0:03:04.280 retrieve the can, return it to the place, and everybody 0:03:04.400 --> 0:03:05.440 is run away and his hid. 0:03:05.840 --> 0:03:07.359 It would go on for a long time. 0:03:07.160 --> 0:03:10.480 But it was very suspenseful, and there was nothing like 0:03:11.320 --> 0:03:14.680 kicking the can at the last possible moment for free. 0:03:15.680 --> 0:03:17.440 It sounds actually like it would be a very good 0:03:17.480 --> 0:03:20.800 squid game game because it's like suspiciously simple but actually 0:03:20.840 --> 0:03:22.079 secretly really intricate. 0:03:23.440 --> 0:03:24.400 Yes, like we were. 0:03:24.639 --> 0:03:27.959 The fun move would be someone would say tap tap tap, 0:03:28.000 --> 0:03:30.280 I see so and so and so and so hiding 0:03:30.280 --> 0:03:33.840 over here, and then a third person would like walk 0:03:33.919 --> 0:03:37.640 up with them very chill, like, oh you also got 0:03:37.680 --> 0:03:40.360 me you forgot about it, and then they would get 0:03:40.400 --> 0:03:41.680 to the can and kick it and. 0:03:41.680 --> 0:03:43.360 Everybody would just go crazy and run. 0:03:44.960 --> 0:03:48.160 Okay, let's get to the news and recapsin today's Previously on. 0:03:51.080 --> 0:03:53.800 First up, DC's new Superman, John Kent. 0:03:53.960 --> 0:03:58.440 This is the child of Clark Kent and Lois Lane 0:03:58.680 --> 0:04:02.840 has been announced as as bisexual in a DC and 0:04:02.880 --> 0:04:06.360 this made quite a splash. They announced this on National 0:04:06.360 --> 0:04:10.960 Coming Out Day, which is great pr and while this 0:04:11.280 --> 0:04:18.640 is certainly the buzziest of recent diverse representational announcements, this 0:04:18.680 --> 0:04:20.800 has been going on for a while. Tim Drake, the 0:04:20.880 --> 0:04:25.920 current Robin, has been out as bisexual since August. Tom Taylor, 0:04:26.080 --> 0:04:29.640 Dark Knights of Steel, Harlequinn and of course you know 0:04:29.760 --> 0:04:34.400 Young Avengers from eight or ten years ago has had 0:04:35.240 --> 0:04:39.480 characters that were gay and out as gay, even like. 0:04:39.600 --> 0:04:41.880 Going back to like some of our favorite comics like 0:04:41.960 --> 0:04:44.880 the clamon X Men stuff. Even though there was allegedly 0:04:45.080 --> 0:04:46.800 an edict at the time where they could have change 0:04:47.640 --> 0:04:52.760 Jim Shooters Joe Victorious edict, but like you know, Mistek 0:04:52.800 --> 0:04:55.760 and Destiny, like these are things that these stories have 0:04:55.880 --> 0:04:58.120 been there for like a really long time. 0:04:58.560 --> 0:05:00.599 They have been there, you know. 0:05:00.760 --> 0:05:04.279 I think there were some notable stories from that era 0:05:04.760 --> 0:05:09.479 and ways that creators got around the supposed edict, which 0:05:09.480 --> 0:05:11.920 I believe is true. I believe that Jim Shooter had 0:05:11.960 --> 0:05:14.279 is true, Jim. I believe that Jim Shooter had an edict. 0:05:14.320 --> 0:05:16.599 He seemed like that kind of guy. There's I forget 0:05:16.640 --> 0:05:20.080 what what issue of Captain America is, but there's like 0:05:20.120 --> 0:05:25.040 an issue of Captain America where he uh, I might 0:05:25.080 --> 0:05:27.320 get some of the details wrong, but that he meets 0:05:27.400 --> 0:05:32.000 up again with like an old army buddy who has 0:05:32.080 --> 0:05:37.520 like a best friend, that they live together, and like 0:05:37.600 --> 0:05:43.200 something like they aren't allowed to like split their assets 0:05:43.240 --> 0:05:45.760 in some particular way or one of them get sick, 0:05:45.800 --> 0:05:47.840 and Captain America is like, well, it's wrong that like 0:05:48.560 --> 0:05:51.560 these characters can't just hang out together. And but it's 0:05:51.760 --> 0:05:54.640 quite clearly coded like as a as a gay relationship. 0:05:54.920 --> 0:05:56.080 So this is great. 0:05:57.160 --> 0:06:00.880 And for everybody who is mad and Slash upset about this, 0:06:01.400 --> 0:06:01.880 you're late. 0:06:01.920 --> 0:06:03.919 You clearly don't read comics because it has been going on. 0:06:04.040 --> 0:06:07.040 Yeah, and also it's really funny because like Conic Kent, 0:06:07.279 --> 0:06:09.560 like everyone always thought he was gay, so I'm sure 0:06:09.560 --> 0:06:11.400 that they're both going to be gay soon, Like Conic 0:06:11.440 --> 0:06:14.400 Can's like the number one shipping like gay icons. So 0:06:14.680 --> 0:06:17.080 I thought this was really cool. The art was really nice. 0:06:17.240 --> 0:06:18.960 The art was beautifums. Yeah. 0:06:19.080 --> 0:06:21.599 Yeah, and Tom Taylor, I think's doing something really cool. 0:06:22.040 --> 0:06:24.520 I like seeing John as Superman. I think that's really 0:06:24.520 --> 0:06:26.360 interesting choice and good for them. 0:06:27.080 --> 0:06:30.679 The Tom Taylor statement quote. Superman's symbol has always stood 0:06:30.720 --> 0:06:32.840 for hope, for truth, and for justice. Today the symbol 0:06:32.960 --> 0:06:36.040 represents something more. Today, more people can see themselves in 0:06:36.120 --> 0:06:38.839 the most powerful superhero in comics. 0:06:39.080 --> 0:06:39.560 It's great. 0:06:40.520 --> 0:06:46.160 Also big news for image heads for Brian K. 0:06:46.320 --> 0:06:48.560 Vaughan, heads for fans of Fiuna Staples. 0:06:49.120 --> 0:06:52.880 Saga, the acclaimed award winning series which I love very dearly, 0:06:53.080 --> 0:06:57.120 will return end of January with issue fifty five. It's 0:06:57.160 --> 0:06:58.880 been on hiatus for I want to say almost two 0:06:58.920 --> 0:07:03.960 and a half three years now that it left us with. 0:07:04.960 --> 0:07:07.520 This is a spoiler of podcast, but one of the 0:07:07.560 --> 0:07:12.520 more brutal cliffhangers in comics that I can remember, and 0:07:12.560 --> 0:07:13.559 it's coming back. 0:07:13.760 --> 0:07:16.600 I can't wait. I love it. I love this comic. 0:07:17.360 --> 0:07:20.920 If you love family, if you love falling in love, 0:07:21.440 --> 0:07:24.520 if you want to see one of the most heartrending 0:07:24.920 --> 0:07:29.920 depictions of a breakup of two people who go their 0:07:29.960 --> 0:07:32.960 separate ways and maintain their love for each other, check 0:07:32.960 --> 0:07:35.440 out Saga. It all Happens in space. There's a cat 0:07:35.520 --> 0:07:36.440 that knows if you're lying. 0:07:36.440 --> 0:07:36.880 It's great. 0:07:37.720 --> 0:07:39.760 Well, it's like your one If somebody was like, what 0:07:39.920 --> 0:07:41.360 saga about? What's like your one? 0:07:41.480 --> 0:07:41.720 Nine? 0:07:41.800 --> 0:07:44.120 Like pitch line man. 0:07:44.280 --> 0:07:47.400 It's about love and space, I guess, you know, and 0:07:47.440 --> 0:07:53.720 the ability of love to transcend really violent disagreements and differences. 0:07:53.840 --> 0:07:56.840 It's about a planet that is at war with its moon, 0:07:57.720 --> 0:08:03.360 you know, a highly technological people versus people entrenched in magic, 0:08:03.720 --> 0:08:08.640 and they disagree on everything. But then two different people 0:08:08.680 --> 0:08:11.680 from those two species fall. 0:08:11.480 --> 0:08:12.800 In love and they have a child. 0:08:12.920 --> 0:08:15.280 And though it doesn't all work out the way you 0:08:15.280 --> 0:08:19.320 would want it to, it's just an incredibly engaging story. 0:08:19.560 --> 0:08:20.800 It's how would you pitch it? 0:08:20.960 --> 0:08:21.160 Yeah? 0:08:21.200 --> 0:08:23.640 No, I think that's perfect. I think like it's one 0:08:23.640 --> 0:08:25.360 of those comics where I used to work in a 0:08:25.360 --> 0:08:27.160 comic shop in London and I had a lot of 0:08:27.160 --> 0:08:31.240 friends who were that image era of like twenty twelve 0:08:31.400 --> 0:08:34.200 to twenty fifteen, where it's just like the biggest you had, 0:08:34.400 --> 0:08:37.440 you know, Wicked in the Divine Sara. Obviously Walking Dead 0:08:37.559 --> 0:08:39.520 was still like its peak. This was one of those 0:08:39.520 --> 0:08:42.320 books that you gave to people who don't read comic books. 0:08:42.640 --> 0:08:44.640 So that's always my thing is like, this is that 0:08:44.720 --> 0:08:47.280 first book one because Fiona's art is like so incredible 0:08:47.280 --> 0:08:49.360 and I love BKV. But the art is what sells 0:08:49.400 --> 0:08:52.400 someone who's never read a comic book. But it's political, 0:08:53.040 --> 0:08:56.760 it's nuanced, it's sweet, it's loving, it's violent, it's scary, 0:08:56.800 --> 0:09:01.280 it's inventive, sexy, it's like it's sexy. Yeah, and it's 0:09:01.640 --> 0:09:04.560 it's honestly like one of the biggest kind of cultural 0:09:04.559 --> 0:09:07.280 phenomenon comics of our time. Like it's the one comic 0:09:07.320 --> 0:09:09.079 that I feel like everyone says you have to read. 0:09:09.120 --> 0:09:11.720 It's one Eyes's, It's one Harvey's. I think Fiona might 0:09:11.760 --> 0:09:13.800 have become the first woman to ever win an Eisner 0:09:14.280 --> 0:09:16.640 on this book, as like as the first woman to 0:09:16.679 --> 0:09:20.840 ever win Best Artists in Eisner for this book. And yeah, 0:09:20.840 --> 0:09:24.800 it's it's kind of also the last ongoing book of 0:09:24.800 --> 0:09:27.840 that era as well, because Walking Dead is done, WIKTIV 0:09:27.960 --> 0:09:29.839 is done, a lot of the other stuff that was 0:09:29.880 --> 0:09:32.960 really popular there was just kind of minis so. And also, 0:09:33.000 --> 0:09:35.559 I think it's going to be basically double the same 0:09:35.600 --> 0:09:38.880 amount of issues, right, so it's like it's going to 0:09:38.960 --> 0:09:40.400 be fifty four more issues. 0:09:42.440 --> 0:09:46.760 I'm so excited, and then you know Fiona. She's probably 0:09:46.800 --> 0:09:51.319 my favorite artist working for various reasons, but mainly because 0:09:51.320 --> 0:09:55.960 I don't think anybody does clothes and fashion as well 0:09:56.000 --> 0:10:00.600 as she does. Like everything that the characters in Saga 0:10:00.720 --> 0:10:06.080 Ware has, it feels lived in, but it's also super cool. 0:10:06.280 --> 0:10:08.199 It's like, it's very rare. 0:10:08.040 --> 0:10:11.000 That I open a comic and I'm like, I would 0:10:11.080 --> 0:10:14.840 wear that jacket that this character is wearing in this 0:10:14.960 --> 0:10:15.559 comic book. 0:10:15.720 --> 0:10:18.600 Even the issue fifty five cover they released, I was like, Wow, 0:10:18.920 --> 0:10:22.280 just pure style, just easy as fuck on the front 0:10:22.320 --> 0:10:24.880 of that cover already, and I was like, Okay, you're 0:10:24.880 --> 0:10:27.079 still going with it. Yeah, I'll be really interested to 0:10:27.080 --> 0:10:28.920 see the release schedule because this is a book that 0:10:28.960 --> 0:10:31.280 has it defies release schedules. 0:10:31.320 --> 0:10:32.959 People are still so excited. 0:10:32.600 --> 0:10:34.679 About it, even though it's been this like two year gap, 0:10:34.720 --> 0:10:36.760 and they've had a lot of gaps before, so I'm 0:10:36.800 --> 0:10:40.440 really excited. Image needs another big it needs a return 0:10:40.480 --> 0:10:41.280 of like a big book. 0:10:42.000 --> 0:10:45.240 I agree with you, these things are cyclical, but you 0:10:45.240 --> 0:10:47.880 know this will be This is huge for that company. 0:10:48.320 --> 0:10:52.520 Next our mini segment, which we are dubbing the Editor's Note, 0:10:52.760 --> 0:10:57.640 X Ray Vision's producer and James Bond super nerd Chris 0:10:57.679 --> 0:11:00.680 Lord will now join us to discuss the current state 0:11:00.679 --> 0:11:04.360 of Bond as a celebration of the release of the 0:11:04.400 --> 0:11:11.640 final Daniel Craig Bond film, No Time to Due, directed 0:11:11.720 --> 0:11:19.160 by directorial super hunk lover of Log Cabins, Carrie. 0:11:19.280 --> 0:11:20.320 Chris take it away. 0:11:21.559 --> 0:11:22.360 Thanks for having me on. 0:11:22.559 --> 0:11:22.599 No. 0:11:22.760 --> 0:11:25.120 I was super excited to jump in here because, yeah, 0:11:25.160 --> 0:11:28.720 I am like the biggest James Bond fan possible, and 0:11:28.760 --> 0:11:33.800 I really love this movie actually, but it's very different 0:11:34.000 --> 0:11:35.880 than anything else we've gotten out of Bond so far. 0:11:35.960 --> 0:11:37.520 But like, I'm just kind of curious, what'd you guys 0:11:37.520 --> 0:11:38.080 think about it? 0:11:38.360 --> 0:11:38.880 That was great? 0:11:39.280 --> 0:11:42.079 Yeah, I quite enjoyed it. I think it's arguably the 0:11:42.120 --> 0:11:43.600 best Daniel Craig Bond. 0:11:44.240 --> 0:11:45.520 Okay, I think the. 0:11:45.520 --> 0:11:48.120 Same, like I think, especially if you're not as into 0:11:48.160 --> 0:11:49.280 the Lord Bond. 0:11:49.760 --> 0:11:50.439 Yeah, that's fair. 0:11:50.720 --> 0:11:52.720 For a two hour, forty five minute movie, this is 0:11:52.720 --> 0:11:57.360 an accessible, interesting, funny It's it's so much funnier and 0:11:57.400 --> 0:11:59.679 campier than the other ones, but it still has steaks 0:11:59.800 --> 0:12:03.280 like Craig wise, and that's why I love about Bond. Yeah, 0:12:03.400 --> 0:12:04.760 I just I thought it was I thought it was 0:12:04.800 --> 0:12:05.240 really great. 0:12:05.320 --> 0:12:05.679 I didn't. 0:12:05.760 --> 0:12:07.760 I was like, this is gonna drag, but it did 0:12:07.800 --> 0:12:09.720 not drag. I'm actually stoked to see it again. 0:12:09.760 --> 0:12:14.200 Yeah, set the set pieces are wonderful, Craig is great, 0:12:14.679 --> 0:12:17.480 and it's and it's one of you know, they've been 0:12:17.480 --> 0:12:20.160 doing the kind of like Bond, have you lost a 0:12:20.200 --> 0:12:22.559 step James Bond for for a little while with the 0:12:22.640 --> 0:12:26.520 Daniel Craig run, but this is the most effective, uh 0:12:26.559 --> 0:12:28.160 depiction of that, and it's super fun. 0:12:28.160 --> 0:12:29.480 The character is great. I liked it. 0:12:29.640 --> 0:12:31.720 Yeah, I'm glad they finally let him be funny because 0:12:31.800 --> 0:12:34.360 Jenna Craig has actually really great comedic timing, but he's 0:12:34.400 --> 0:12:35.920 just been so serious in all these movies. 0:12:36.160 --> 0:12:39.640 So sell us on Bond. Sell for those who are 0:12:39.679 --> 0:12:43.520 not Bond heads, sell us on give it. How how 0:12:43.520 --> 0:12:46.520 would you pitch someone on Bond? 0:12:46.640 --> 0:12:50.400 So I always think of Bond as like this really 0:12:50.480 --> 0:12:54.280 unique touch point through culture, Like it's the only major 0:12:54.320 --> 0:12:56.480 film series has been going on for sixty years that's 0:12:56.480 --> 0:12:59.959 maintained that kind of status, so you can jump into 0:13:00.040 --> 0:13:01.440 any movie and kind of get a sense of what 0:13:01.480 --> 0:13:03.560 the world was like at the time the movie came out. 0:13:04.440 --> 0:13:10.000 But I also think he's this ongoing commentary on modern masculinity. 0:13:10.000 --> 0:13:10.680 In a lot of ways. 0:13:10.760 --> 0:13:12.600 I mean, I think there's all this conversation now like oh, 0:13:12.600 --> 0:13:14.600 should Bond be a woman, And I actually think that's 0:13:14.679 --> 0:13:16.559 kind of reductives. I think you can say much more 0:13:16.559 --> 0:13:19.520 interesting things about how a male character can and should 0:13:19.520 --> 0:13:22.560 behave now than by changing up the gender. And so 0:13:22.960 --> 0:13:24.880 I always say that, like, if you've never seen Bond, 0:13:25.080 --> 0:13:28.199 start with Casino Royale because it's like, arguably be the 0:13:28.240 --> 0:13:31.200 best film that they've made. It's the most accessible. Then 0:13:31.320 --> 0:13:35.640 go watch Goldfinger, which it's like deeply, deeply problematic, but 0:13:35.640 --> 0:13:36.160 it's like the. 0:13:36.120 --> 0:13:37.120 Most Bond. 0:13:38.280 --> 0:13:40.959 But it's so campy and it's. 0:13:40.880 --> 0:13:44.320 So Campyre's there's so many problems I'm not gonna start 0:13:44.320 --> 0:13:46.400 to get into here. If you watch the movie, you 0:13:46.520 --> 0:13:49.160 know exactly what I'm talking about. But it's like the 0:13:49.200 --> 0:13:51.320 most Bond Bond movie ever made. It's like where they 0:13:51.400 --> 0:13:53.200 set the formula. And then after that, I say, go 0:13:53.280 --> 0:13:55.720 watch like Die Another Day or Diamonds Are Forever. 0:13:55.840 --> 0:13:56.439 Just see how like. 0:13:56.559 --> 0:13:59.040 Fucking ridiculously stupid some of them can be. You'll get 0:13:59.040 --> 0:14:01.320 a whole swath of it. But I think for like 0:14:01.520 --> 0:14:03.760 No Time to Die, you do kind of have to 0:14:03.760 --> 0:14:06.640 have seen the entire Craig run, which is different. Like 0:14:07.440 --> 0:14:09.439 that's the thing that has kind of defined the Dan 0:14:09.480 --> 0:14:11.640 of Craig era is that it's been a huge departure 0:14:11.679 --> 0:14:14.319 from the traditional formula up to this point, Like every 0:14:14.360 --> 0:14:16.640 other Bond film was always like a one and done thing, 0:14:16.679 --> 0:14:18.120 like you kind of watch it and it didn't matter 0:14:18.160 --> 0:14:20.200 what came before, what came after, And this is the 0:14:20.200 --> 0:14:22.120 first time they're like, oh no, you have to know 0:14:22.120 --> 0:14:24.800 what's going on in continuity is really really important to 0:14:24.840 --> 0:14:25.680 this era, which is. 0:14:27.480 --> 0:14:28.120 Very different. 0:14:28.160 --> 0:14:29.600 I think it's kind of put them in a unique 0:14:29.600 --> 0:14:34.040 position going forward, like I don't really know what they 0:14:34.160 --> 0:14:36.200 do now. I mean to get into like full on, 0:14:36.280 --> 0:14:38.240 full on spoilers here for No Time to Die if 0:14:38.280 --> 0:14:41.280 you haven't seen it. Pause, but like they kill Bond 0:14:41.800 --> 0:14:43.280 and that's never been done before. 0:14:44.080 --> 0:14:45.200 Dead. 0:14:45.440 --> 0:14:46.960 He's like one hundred percent dead. 0:14:47.160 --> 0:14:50.480 And you know, it's interesting because this movie is almost 0:14:50.560 --> 0:14:53.160 like kind of a pseudo remake in some ways of 0:14:53.160 --> 0:14:55.400 on her majesty of service, Like people were gonna be 0:14:55.440 --> 0:14:56.960 talking about that a lot, so I want to address that. 0:14:57.080 --> 0:14:59.560 Like not only does Bond say the phrase we have 0:14:59.600 --> 0:15:01.320 all the time the world, which is like the catch 0:15:01.320 --> 0:15:03.520 phrase from that film and also the title of the 0:15:03.520 --> 0:15:06.920 Louis Armstrong song. But like in that movie, he has 0:15:06.960 --> 0:15:09.120 a chance at happiness to like go and get married 0:15:09.160 --> 0:15:10.400 and be with the love of his life, and then 0:15:10.400 --> 0:15:12.880 that's cut short by an assassination attempt from Blofeld, and 0:15:12.880 --> 0:15:15.960 the exact same thing happens here, but in the prologue 0:15:15.960 --> 0:15:18.440 of the film, but instead of anyone dying, like he 0:15:18.560 --> 0:15:20.880 basically decides he can never trust mallance one again and 0:15:20.920 --> 0:15:22.480 so like, Okay, if you go, I'm never gonna talk 0:15:22.520 --> 0:15:24.600 to you again, which, of course, of course they come 0:15:24.600 --> 0:15:27.480 back together, but like, yeah, he he's now dead, and 0:15:27.480 --> 0:15:28.480 so it's like, what do you. 0:15:28.840 --> 0:15:29.400 Do they do? 0:15:29.680 --> 0:15:30.320 What do they do? 0:15:30.560 --> 0:15:34.600 Like how do they like assuming that they don't have 0:15:34.760 --> 0:15:38.680 a moment in which like em is in their. 0:15:39.640 --> 0:15:41.120 Yeah, like in their apartment. 0:15:41.640 --> 0:15:43.320 They're in their apartment, and then all of a sudden 0:15:43.320 --> 0:15:45.240 it's like, oh my god, boond, that's right. 0:15:45.480 --> 0:15:48.520 You thought I was deceased but I'm live or something 0:15:48.760 --> 0:15:50.280 like yeah. 0:15:50.360 --> 0:15:52.480 I mean it's weird because this movie almost kind of 0:15:52.520 --> 0:15:55.360 sets up some potential spin offs, like so we get 0:15:55.440 --> 0:15:58.240 Lashawna lynch'es know me, who's the new double o? Seven, 0:15:58.720 --> 0:16:01.800 who I really hoping she was gonna be a scene stealer, 0:16:01.840 --> 0:16:02.880 Like I kind of want to come out of this 0:16:02.920 --> 0:16:04.480 movie being like, Hey, if they make a movie just 0:16:04.520 --> 0:16:05.920 around her, I would love to watch it. 0:16:06.240 --> 0:16:07.920 I thought she was a little bit underutilized. 0:16:08.360 --> 0:16:11.160 There was there was a lot of we're gonna play 0:16:11.240 --> 0:16:14.440 with the idea that someone or anyone would steal anything 0:16:14.600 --> 0:16:18.760 from James Bond, his title, the scenes. You know, his 0:16:19.640 --> 0:16:21.640 status is like the protagonist, and. 0:16:22.760 --> 0:16:24.160 It never happens for sure. 0:16:24.640 --> 0:16:27.920 Yeah, I thought Lashaana was great, but she was also 0:16:28.000 --> 0:16:32.440 playing like a more classic contemporary spy against like a 0:16:32.520 --> 0:16:35.400 character whose entire point is to contradict that and be 0:16:35.480 --> 0:16:38.160 more interesting or different. But there was like, I think 0:16:38.160 --> 0:16:40.600 you're right about the spinoffs, because I mean, the side 0:16:40.680 --> 0:16:44.080 characters are always great in these Craig movies. They introduced 0:16:44.080 --> 0:16:47.120 that Ana Dahma's Craig scene is like ten out of ten, 0:16:47.160 --> 0:16:48.440 one of the best scenes from any. 0:16:48.360 --> 0:16:50.880 James She's the real scene stealer. 0:16:50.920 --> 0:16:54.200 Ana d Armes's Paloma, like she's so weird and funny 0:16:54.200 --> 0:16:55.880 and like she seems like she doesn't know what she's doing, 0:16:55.960 --> 0:16:57.760 and then she's like crazy confident, but also like a 0:16:57.760 --> 0:16:58.920 hard drinker, just like Bond. 0:16:58.960 --> 0:17:00.240 It's so weird and fun. 0:17:00.120 --> 0:17:02.840 And they don't sleep together, like they just have a 0:17:02.960 --> 0:17:06.199 great just have a cool super like mass killing and 0:17:06.240 --> 0:17:10.400 then they're like, hey, you agree, let's. 0:17:10.160 --> 0:17:12.160 Like grab a drink and shoot some people against So yeah, 0:17:12.160 --> 0:17:13.440 it'll be fun to be really great. 0:17:13.800 --> 0:17:17.080 Yeah that I really You know, when studios like release 0:17:17.160 --> 0:17:20.520 scenes from movies to sell the movie, I'm like, they 0:17:20.560 --> 0:17:22.600 need to just put that on YouTube because people would 0:17:22.600 --> 0:17:25.080 be using their mind. Like it's such a it's just 0:17:25.240 --> 0:17:28.960 such a solid space. But so something I wonder is, 0:17:29.000 --> 0:17:31.840 like you talked the old James Bond movies before, Craig, 0:17:31.880 --> 0:17:33.680 It's like, it doesn't matter what happens in the first one, 0:17:33.840 --> 0:17:35.600 just continue on. It doesn't matter it's a different act. 0:17:35.680 --> 0:17:37.639 Blah blah blah. So do you think they're essentially going 0:17:37.680 --> 0:17:41.120 to use that formula to just keep doing James Bond 0:17:41.200 --> 0:17:43.000 but with a different person or do you think because 0:17:43.040 --> 0:17:45.280 they did these movies that are like such a capsule 0:17:45.359 --> 0:17:47.399 with like an ongoing storyline, that they've kind of trapped 0:17:47.400 --> 0:17:48.520 themselves into a corner. 0:17:49.119 --> 0:17:51.760 I think they have kind of backed themselves into a corner, 0:17:51.800 --> 0:17:53.240 like you can't just kind of pick up and run 0:17:53.280 --> 0:17:55.480 with it now because they've made condity such a big 0:17:55.480 --> 0:17:57.040 deal and that made Craig such a big deal. I mean, 0:17:57.080 --> 0:17:58.919 I understand why they killed him because I think one 0:17:58.920 --> 0:18:00.480 they wanted to give him a proper and off, and 0:18:00.520 --> 0:18:02.399 too they had to find a reason to not have 0:18:02.440 --> 0:18:04.639 him come back because he's been the most popular Bond 0:18:04.680 --> 0:18:07.760 since Connery, like hands down, everyone loves him so much. 0:18:08.440 --> 0:18:11.000 But I think I think it's hard to do a 0:18:11.119 --> 0:18:13.640 spinoff because you could have a new character b double 0:18:13.640 --> 0:18:15.639 O seven the way they did here, but like the 0:18:15.800 --> 0:18:17.960 end credits even say James Bond will return, right, So 0:18:18.040 --> 0:18:20.560 James Bond will come back. So I don't think they 0:18:20.560 --> 0:18:23.280 can do that. I think you have to try to 0:18:23.359 --> 0:18:25.960 just keep going. And maybe because Craig has been such 0:18:25.960 --> 0:18:28.199 a departure that whole era, you could go back and 0:18:28.240 --> 0:18:29.880 just have it be all right, we bring in someone new, 0:18:30.320 --> 0:18:32.680 we go back to the traditional like you know, give 0:18:32.760 --> 0:18:34.720 him a doste, set him on a mission, keep going. 0:18:34.800 --> 0:18:37.320 And I think they have to pull back on making 0:18:37.320 --> 0:18:39.080 continuity is such a big deal and just kind of 0:18:39.240 --> 0:18:41.080 go back that thing, like and we just keep going on. 0:18:41.119 --> 0:18:41.960 It's a new actor. 0:18:41.720 --> 0:18:44.920 Because there's been this idea that Bond's a code name, 0:18:44.960 --> 0:18:48.840 and it's actually been proven true number of times. Yeah, 0:18:48.880 --> 0:18:51.400 Like even Roger Moore films make reference to Sean Connor 0:18:51.400 --> 0:18:54.040 of films and so on, so that's not the thing. 0:18:54.080 --> 0:18:56.720 I don't want them to do that either. Like, I'm 0:18:56.760 --> 0:18:58.119 kind of sad because I feel like we're gonna have 0:18:58.160 --> 0:19:01.639