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Speaker 1: Hello, Texans, Welcome to the show Thursday night. You know

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Speaker 1: that normally means we have the General John McClain. He's

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Speaker 1: not in the house today, but we thought we'd invite

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Speaker 1: a special guest because there's been so much talk about

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Speaker 1: the offensive line. And we'll get to all the news

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Speaker 1: of the day later, but about the offensive line, Cam

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Speaker 1: Robinson reportedly inking the deal yesterday or agreeing to terms,

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Speaker 1: or however you want to put it, and we thought

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Speaker 1: we'd get Wade Smith's opinion.

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Speaker 2: On everything happening up front with the.

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Speaker 1: Men in the trenches because Pro Bowl guard, he's played

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Speaker 1: every position on the offensive line. Let's get to our

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Speaker 1: visit with Wade Smith. Part of the greatest offensive line

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Speaker 1: in franchise history and no offense.

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Speaker 2: Wade.

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Speaker 1: We're hoping that we don't always have to say that,

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Speaker 1: but it's kind of nice to say because you're part

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Speaker 1: of the greatest line in franchise history. Hoping to replace

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Speaker 1: it hasn't happened yet.

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Speaker 2: Welcome. How you doing, Wade?

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Speaker 3: I'm doing good.

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Speaker 4: And I tell you what, man, that's something that I've

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Speaker 4: been hoping and really wishing forward that you can stop

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Speaker 4: saying that about the twenty ten eleven twelve offensive line,

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Speaker 4: that that's the best group in the history of the franchise.

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Speaker 4: When you're part of a franchise, you want to leave

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Speaker 4: something behind and have somebody to build off of and

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Speaker 4: improve on.

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Speaker 3: And people look.

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Speaker 4: At the Houston Texans like they historically have good offensive lines,

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Speaker 4: like the Steelers historically have good linebackers, and we haven't

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Speaker 4: had that with the Texans. So yeah, I want the

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Speaker 4: same thing too. I want people to not look at

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Speaker 4: me and say, man, you were the best one to

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Speaker 4: play at that position in the franchise history, like and

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Speaker 4: I want somebody to come to be better than me,

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Speaker 4: you know what I mean. And I think a lot

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Speaker 4: of guys feel the same way. Because if the Texans

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Speaker 4: offensive line can be better than what we were, then

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Speaker 4: I think that the Texans is a franchise to take

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Speaker 4: that next step. We want to win it big and

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Speaker 4: want to win a Super Bowl, and I think that's

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Speaker 4: what it's going to take.

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Speaker 5: You're not the You're not Mercury Morris, the late Mercury Morris,

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Speaker 5: who always loved seeing a team lose, so as Dolphins

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Speaker 5: could be the ones that stayed undefeated for all that time. Wait,

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Speaker 5: let's just start with probably the biggest news item I

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Speaker 5: guess we've had probably in a while, and not being

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Speaker 5: Larimie Tunseell traded to the Washington Commanders. Texans get back

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Speaker 5: in essence once things can't allow to get back. Basically

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Speaker 5: a third this year or second next year. Pretty decent

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Speaker 5: return for Larmy Tunseell. But your thoughts about Laramie moving

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Speaker 5: on to Washington and what that that move then does

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Speaker 5: for this offensive line in your opinion.

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Speaker 4: First of all, say that you could tell that Washington

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Speaker 4: is going all in as far as them trying to

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Speaker 4: take that next step and be a Super Bowl contender.

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Speaker 4: Jeremie's top three left tackle in the in the NFL,

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Speaker 4: and so those guys don't come by easy, and so

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Speaker 4: I think he's going to do well out there in Washington.

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Speaker 4: I do think that there's a lot of external and

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Speaker 4: internal factors that it makes sense why the Texas would

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Speaker 4: make that move. You get the get you get assets back,

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Speaker 4: trying to get younger in that room. There's a lot

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Speaker 4: of people that are are getting paid. You see, you

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Speaker 4: got this thingly deal that just came down. You got

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Speaker 4: Strauders coming up that's gonna get paid. There's there's that

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Speaker 4: aspect of it, and I think there's also I think

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Speaker 4: there's there was things that went on in the room

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Speaker 4: last year, and not necessarily what happened in the room,

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Speaker 4: but what was put on film by the offensive line group.

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Speaker 4: That to me, there has to be some things that

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Speaker 4: get shaken up and changed in there, because there was

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Speaker 4: there was too many things that I watched, whether it's

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Speaker 4: it may be, where it's like, this stuff is unacceptable

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Speaker 4: and it's not reflective of what Demiko Ryans is as

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Speaker 4: a head coach. You look at that defense, and you

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Speaker 4: look at Demiko Ryans, his defense reflects him.

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Speaker 3: They talk about swarm mentality.

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Speaker 4: I didn't see that at the offensive line group, and

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Speaker 4: that's that's really disappointing to me because that's what we

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Speaker 4: were when when when we were there, when when when

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Speaker 4: the Miko was our captain of the team and he

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Speaker 4: was the leader of the of the of the franchise,

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Speaker 4: our offensive line was on that same wavelength of where

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Speaker 4: we played the game with an edge, We played the

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Speaker 4: game with that that that swarm mentality quote unquote, and

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Speaker 4: uh I didn't really see that last year I lost.

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Speaker 4: I saw a lot of stuff that was you know,

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Speaker 4: elementary stuff where you're getting beat on T T games

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Speaker 4: was the leader of that group. And if you're the

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Speaker 4: I don't know if it's necessarily such a great thing

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Speaker 4: that's nothing against Learning, that's nothing against those guys that

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Speaker 3: But there's certain things that.

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Speaker 4: Were putting that are put on a film that other

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Speaker 4: we're gonna take advantage of them there, We're gonna beat them,

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Speaker 4: or we got we gotta we got an easy win here.

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Speaker 4: And I just didn't see very much of opponents making

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Speaker 3: They were just free.

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Speaker 4: Willing, having a great time hunting and believing they were

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Speaker 4: gonna get home and too often they got home and c. J.

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Speaker 4: Stroud took way too many hits last year and stuff

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Speaker 4: that was very preventable stuff. And so just from that

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Speaker 4: mindset of I think a change had to be made

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Speaker 4: so the guys that they bring in and the guys

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Speaker 4: change in how they approach things in order for them

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Speaker 1: Former Texans Pro Bowl guard Wade Smith with us, who

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Speaker 1: has played every position on the offensive line in his

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Speaker 1: NFL career. Wade, let's talk about what they might do here.

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Speaker 1: Because cam Robinson enters the fold. They could have put

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Speaker 1: They have a lot of different things they can do.

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Speaker 1: We haven't lived through the draft yet, so what are

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Speaker 1: your thoughts on how they might put this thing together.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's not going to be completely an

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Speaker 4: open competition, but I think it's going to be very

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Speaker 4: close to that. I could see a scenario where Titus

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Speaker 4: Howard plays left tackle because he's done it in the past.

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Speaker 4: I could see a scenario where Cam Robinson plays left

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Speaker 4: see a scenario where Fisher plays left tackle. All of

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Speaker 4: those guys have experience of playing all over the offensive line,

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Speaker 4: So I think OTA's mini camp, all of that type

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Speaker 4: stuff is going to be important to figure out who's

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Speaker 4: going to actually be the starters at the tackle positions

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Speaker 4: and also at the center and guard positions. I think

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Speaker 4: there's open competition everywhere that you see on the offensive line.

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Speaker 4: I'm not seeing anybody where I'm saying for sure this

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Speaker 3: And we'll see what happens with the draft. They're going

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Speaker 4: Adding guys in, I'm sure from the from the at

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Speaker 4: just going to be a situation where you don't necessarily

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Speaker 4: can go into a saying that Titus Howard is going

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Speaker 3: I think time will tell.

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Speaker 2: With that way, do the best person to ask this question?

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Speaker 5: Because we go through and you know, I do a

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Speaker 5: ton of work on a draft, and we look at

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Speaker 5: guys and think, well, you know, I don't think this

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Speaker 5: guy could play tackle, but he could play guard. Or

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Speaker 5: he played tackle in college, but now he's going to

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Speaker 5: transition to guard, or uh, you know, he's left tackle,

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Speaker 5: but you know, I think you should play right tackle.

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Speaker 5: It always seems so easy to talk about, but in reality,

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Speaker 5: how tough is it to make a move from tackle

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Speaker 2: You've done that, you made that transition.

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Speaker 5: You could play all different positions, but making the transition

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Speaker 5: tackle to guard. How difficult is that in reality to do.

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Speaker 4: I think it's extremely difficult, and a lot of times

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Speaker 4: it's predicated out of necessity. Like I was able to

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Speaker 4: I played left tackle my first couple years in the NFL,

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Speaker 4: lot of that was out of necessity, Like if I

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Speaker 4: because I wanted to continue to be in the NFL.

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Speaker 4: And sometimes when guys have other options, you might not

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Speaker 4: see them buy into playing different spots. Sometimes you'll see

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Speaker 4: could play right guard even though he's a left tackle.

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Speaker 4: But maybe he doesn't want to play right guard because

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Speaker 4: the right guard money is not what you get at

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Speaker 4: then now at that point, you know you don't know

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Speaker 4: do not put to that to that test per se.

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Speaker 4: But it's very difficult to play multiple positions. It's very

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Speaker 4: difficult because just imagine feeding yourself left handed, like if

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Speaker 4: the rest of the rest of this month. It would

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Speaker 4: But a start off with it's very difficult. And now

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Speaker 4: imagine you start off doing that thing, but you're playing

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Speaker 3: That's what that's what you have to get to now.

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Speaker 4: Like sometimes we know that we're short here, I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: Wade Smith joining us on Texans Radio. Wade, when you

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Speaker 1: came in to the Texans, Alex Gibbs was gone, but

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Speaker 1: his influence was certainly there because the team started to

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Speaker 1: make some big strides moving the football while he was here,

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Speaker 1: and you had John Betten as an on line coach.

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Speaker 2: What about absorbing the system?

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Speaker 1: You were a veteran and obviously fit right in, and

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Speaker 1: the numbers were outstanding when you joined the flow in

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Speaker 1: that offensive line room. But what about picking up that

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Speaker 1: system and working together. What did it take to get

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Speaker 1: it coached right and executed properly on the field.

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Speaker 4: Well, the cool thing about the system is it's more

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Speaker 4: about repetition. It's less about trying to trick anybody. It's

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Speaker 4: trying to make everything look the same. It's trying to

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Speaker 4: it's it's you're you have the opportunity to dictate to

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Speaker 4: who you're to your opponent. And when I got here,

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Speaker 4: the guys around me all knew what they were doing.

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Speaker 4: I had some background in that scheme, but it wasn't

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Speaker 4: as emphasized as what it was when I got here,

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Speaker 4: and it fit right into what I did. But then

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Speaker 4: the cool thing I think that was brought along with

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Speaker 4: that that they hadn't been doing in the past when

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Speaker 4: I got here was when Rico came Dennison.

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Speaker 3: He liked to pull me a lot.

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Speaker 4: There was a lot of times where I'm pulling and

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Speaker 4: leading on the other side of line scrimmage, running power

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Speaker 4: and running pop out of the single back, and by

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Speaker 4: doing that a three technique, the defensive tackle does not

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Speaker 4: know what you're doing because it feels the same to

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Speaker 4: start off with. You can start off a double team

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Speaker 4: where the balls actually coming to him and it feels

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Speaker 4: exactly the same as when we're running outside zone away

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Speaker 4: from him, and if he tries to chase it on

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Speaker 4: one then he's going to lose.

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Speaker 3: To the other.

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Speaker 4: Or if he tries to slow play it on one,

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Speaker 4: then he's going to lose to the other. And you

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Speaker 4: have the ability to dictate what's going to happen each

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Speaker 4: and every play. And so, like I said, like you said,

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Speaker 4: I was a veteran guy when I got here. There

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Speaker 4: was the cool thing about I think about what's going

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Speaker 4: on with the Texans right now is there's a lot

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Speaker 4: of people doubting what they can do and who they

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Speaker 4: can be in the future. I will say this our

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Speaker 4: thousand percent believe that when I signed my contract here,

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Speaker 4: nobody thought that the Texans were going to lead the

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Speaker 4: league in rushing in twenty ten. Nobody thought that we're

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Speaker 4: gonna almost have two thousand yard rushers the following year

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Speaker 4: in twenty eleven. Nobody thought we were going to go

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Speaker 4: twelve and four in twenty twelve and have one of

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Speaker 4: the best offensive lines in the league over that three

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Speaker 4: year period. But these guys in the building now have

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Speaker 4: the ability to make things like that happen. They have

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Speaker 4: the pieces around them, and it's up to them to say, hey,

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Speaker 4: people are doubting us. Cool, let me go run through

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Speaker 4: somebody's face for sixty minutes and in the process will

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Speaker 4: win a bunch of games will run for a bunch

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Speaker 4: of yards. CJ Will be in the MVP conversation, and

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Speaker 4: we'll go win the Super Bowl. They have that opportunity

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Speaker 4: to make that happen. Each and every day in practice

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Speaker 4: has got to be a sense of urgency of how

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Speaker 4: you going to approach things, how physical you're going to

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Speaker 4: play the game. Your defensive lineman shouldn't like you. Your

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Speaker 4: teammates they shouldn't like you. Your opponents should not look

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Speaker 4: forward to playing against you. One of my favorite things

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Speaker 4: was when we played against I think it was Jacksonville, No,

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Speaker 4: it was Tennessee, Tennessee back in the day. They came

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Speaker 4: out of the paper said they didn't like playing against

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Speaker 4: us because we're dirty players. And we did this and

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Speaker 4: did that, Thank you very much. That's the most respectful

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Speaker 4: thing that you can say to offensive lineman that you

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Speaker 4: you don't like us, we're dirty and all that type

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Speaker 4: of stuff.

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Speaker 3: That's the mentality.

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Speaker 4: You think about what happened last year with the Texans defense.

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Speaker 4: How many personal foul penalties did they get? Some of

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Speaker 4: them that were warranted, some of them that were not warranted.

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Speaker 4: But how many receivers do you think think about when

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Speaker 4: they're crossing over the middle.

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Speaker 3: Should I catch this ball? How many guys because they know.

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Speaker 4: That those guys on the defensive side of the ball

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Speaker 4: are gonna hunt the p trits, they gonna hunt. You

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Speaker 4: got guys like Stingley, the getting paid out, the the wazudes.

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Speaker 4: He gonna come downhill and hit you. You got linebackers disease.

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Speaker 4: These guys are gonna run through your face. That's what

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Speaker 4: we brought to the table as an offensive line as

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Speaker 4: a group, and say we're gonna run through your face.

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Speaker 4: These guys now can have that same mentality. Hey, we're

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Speaker 4: gonna run through your face. We're gonna make you think

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Speaker 4: about what we're going to do, Like I should. I know,

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Speaker 4: Coach says, I'm supposed to I supposed to get to

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Speaker 4: this guy's hip or get to his ear hole, whatever.

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Speaker 4: But last time I did that, I had to take

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Speaker 4: a couple of plays off because this.

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Speaker 3: Dude just ran through my face.

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Speaker 4: That's that's that's the type of stuff that we need

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Speaker 4: on the offensive side of the ball, especially in the

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Speaker 4: offensive line group. And that that was the most disappointing

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Speaker 4: thing about last season because it was very rarely I

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Speaker 4: could look at the tape and look at it and

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Speaker 4: say like, yeah, those guys are playing the game the

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Speaker 4: right way, but they have every opportunity to to to

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Speaker 4: do that going forward. And I think the type of

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Speaker 4: guys that they're bringing and that it's along that mentality like, hey,

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Speaker 4: we gotta play this game a different way.

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Speaker 3: We got to approach you a different way.

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Speaker 4: And it's like, if you don't want to play the

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Speaker 4: game that way, that's fine, that's okay, but this is

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Speaker 4: not the place for you because you have to reflect

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Speaker 4: what the head coach wants to do.

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Speaker 3: You know what I mean.

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Speaker 4: If you're playing for Bill Belichick, you cannot be a

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Speaker 4: stupid football player. You have to be a very high

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Speaker 4: football IQ guy that understands the game of football and

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Speaker 4: doesn't make mental errors because he can't. He's not gonna

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Speaker 4: play you just like you know, Tom Brady. He's not

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Speaker 4: gonna throw you the ball if you're not running.

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Speaker 3: The right route.

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Speaker 4: Well, the head coach for the Houston Texans, as a mentality,

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna run through your face. I want guys that

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Speaker 4: are going to play the game physical, that are are

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Speaker 4: not going to take anything from anyone, and they're gonna

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Speaker 4: play that game that way with an edge.

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Speaker 3: Well, that was not that.

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Speaker 4: That's not what we got last year at the offensive line,

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Speaker 4: and so that's got to change, and I.

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Speaker 3: Think that has every opportunity to change.

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Speaker 4: So hopefully that that is what takes place next year.

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Speaker 4: And if that does happen, then you'll see how it

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Speaker 4: translates with how many yards Joe Mixon gets in, how

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Speaker 4: many yards uh CJ is able to throw for, and

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Speaker 4: just all the receivers that are gonna be able to

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Speaker 4: make plays like that that it all starts from what

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Speaker 4: you're doing upfront.

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Speaker 5: Wait, one, you mentioned when Rico came in, you guys

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Speaker 5: ran a little bit more power pop rant, some more

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Speaker 5: gap scheme type stuff, and it feels like the across

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Speaker 5: the league they've gotten away from in a sense like

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Speaker 5: you're one hundred percent zone run game, Like it's a

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Speaker 5: little bit more blended. But we don't really know what

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Speaker 5: Nick Kelly is going to bring offensively up front, but

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Speaker 5: I would imagine it's gonna be a little bit of

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Speaker 5: mix of zone and a little bit of mix of

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Speaker 5: gap scheme stuff from an offensive lineman perspective.

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Speaker 2: The you know, you can rip some Somebodi's.

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Speaker 5: Face off in both schemes, but how important does it

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Speaker 5: become to be able to have the right mentality to

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Speaker 5: be able to flip back and forth while we're gonna

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Speaker 5: run zone here because they're in this type of front,

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Speaker 5: we can we think we can gash them here, Well,

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Speaker 5: you know what, we kind of like to run down

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Speaker 5: their throat with some gap scheme runs. How now as

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Speaker 5: offensive linemen, and how did you kind of adapt to Okay,

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Speaker 5: I gotta be able to kind of handle both as

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Speaker 5: opposed to just be locked into one way of doing things.

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Speaker 4: You know, I'm trying to think back, but I don't

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Speaker 4: really know that many teams. It's like back in the

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Speaker 4: day with like the Denver Broncos back in the day,

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Speaker 4: back in the day when you're talking about the nineties

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Speaker 4: where they're winning Super Bowls where they just exclusively ran

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Speaker 4: outside zone, Like you're gonna run a combination of things.

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Speaker 4: I do think that there are there are multiple schemes

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Speaker 4: that can work together in conjunction. You can run duo,

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Speaker 4: you can run inside zone, you can run outside zone,

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Speaker 4: you can run wide zone, you can run hardpos, you

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Speaker 4: can run a gap, you can run trap. There's all

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Speaker 4: these different schemes that you can run. If you can

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Speaker 4: make them look alike from the first three steps of

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Speaker 4: a play the defensive shot. They can't. They're going to miss.

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Speaker 4: The great thing about being a good running game is

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Speaker 4: if you get two, and you get two, and you

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Speaker 4: get twelve, and you can consistently do that, you can

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Speaker 4: get one, you can get three, you can get twenty four.

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Speaker 3: They can only guess right so many times.

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Speaker 4: But if you can make everything look the same, if

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Speaker 4: you can come off the ball with a sense of

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Speaker 4: urgency and dictate to who you're going against, you're going

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Speaker 4: to have success running running the football. And if you

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Speaker 4: can learn how to as a player marry these things

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Speaker 4: up and see where you put the defense in the

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Speaker 4: buying with these various schemes, then you.

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Speaker 3: Can take advantage of that.

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Speaker 4: Now, the most important thing is making sure that you

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Speaker 4: have an offensive coordinator you mentioned Kaylee, is having an

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Speaker 4: offensive coordinator that understands how these things work together and

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Speaker 4: that will call them in a manner to where you

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Speaker 4: can play that game within the game against your opponent.

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Speaker 4: Like I said, if you're playing against a three technique

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Speaker 4: and you have a team that runs outside zone and

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Speaker 4: you run inside zone and you run gap trap, he

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Speaker 4: can't be right if you're consistently running the football and

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Speaker 4: you're coming off the ball, and it feels the same

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Speaker 4: for the first couple of steps between the different play calls.

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Speaker 3: He can't be right, and he's.

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Speaker 4: Gonna be wrong enough times to where you're gonna gash him.

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Speaker 4: They're gonna start hesitating, and then everything becomes easier once

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Speaker 4: you get a team to having to read and react.

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Speaker 4: Now things become easier for you to dictate to your opponent.

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Speaker 4: So I think that's part of being a pro is hey,

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Speaker 4: studying your craft, watching film, evaluating your opponents, all these

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Speaker 4: type of things of what you are, what you have

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Speaker 4: to do, your task to do to be successful at

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Speaker 4: your position, especially if you're not six eight, three hundred

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Speaker 4: and forty pounds that could just walk off the ball

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Speaker 4: and move guys, And that's what That's not what the

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Speaker 4: Texans had when I was there, and that's not what

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Speaker 4: they have now where they just got guys. You're just

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Speaker 4: gonna walk off the ball and mall guys. You're gonna

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Speaker 4: have to figure out ways to dictate to your opponent

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Speaker 4: and put the advantage back in your favor. And so

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Speaker 4: I think that's part of it. You're gonna have to

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Speaker 4: have guys in the room that are willing to put

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Speaker 4: in that work on the field in the meeting room

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Speaker 4: and making sure they're making great decisions off the field

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Speaker 4: and playing the game with that mentality in order to

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Speaker 4: have a tremendous amount of success.

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Speaker 1: Such outstanding stuff. Wade, Hey, tell us about what's going

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Speaker 1: on with your efforts with literacy. I know it's very

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Speaker 1: important to you and you've done a lot of work

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Speaker 1: with the Texans and on your own as well. What's

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Speaker 1: the latest what you share with us?

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Speaker 3: And great question.

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Speaker 4: So, actually, right now we're in the middle of a

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Speaker 4: partnership between the Wastin Foundation, the Houston Texans, and Kroger.

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Speaker 4: We're doing our reading with the pros Chilter Literacy Program

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Speaker 4: at four elementary schools.

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Speaker 3: Here in hisd. So we started that.

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Speaker 4: In September and so we did two schools in Sunnyside

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Speaker 4: area of Houston for that semester, and then now this

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Speaker 4: semester we're in Magnolia Park at two elementary schools. We

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Speaker 4: were at Law and Mating Elementary School and in Sunnyside,

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Speaker 4: and now this spring we're in Tierina and Henderson Elementary.

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Speaker 3: Schools and we're going back.

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Speaker 4: We're going to each school every Tuesday and reading to

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Speaker 4: the second graders there.

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Speaker 3: You know, we have our kickoff celebration that we just

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Speaker 3: actually did yesterday.

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Speaker 4: Where we we're doing a literacy contest, reading contests really

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Speaker 4: challenged between the schools and donating reading corners, just getting

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Speaker 4: kids excited about reading. The Reading program been doing it

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Speaker 4: since twenty twelve when I was still playing with the Texans,

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Speaker 4: and we've had pretty much you name it, any notable

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Speaker 4: Houston Texans player that are former Now we've had current

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Speaker 4: color guys that come now participate in the program, and

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Speaker 4: so we're excited to be able to officially partner with

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Speaker 4: the Texans to do that. And I'm just excited to

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Speaker 4: continue to give back to the city of Houston. It's

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Speaker 4: the place where I've made my home, a lot of

685
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Speaker 4: former guys made their home, and so it's just our

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Speaker 4: way of giving back in my way of giving back

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Speaker 4: to the city that's shown my family and showing us

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Speaker 4: so much love over the years.

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Speaker 1: Wade Outstanding, Thanks so so much for everything you do

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Speaker 1: in the community and for the Houston Texans Foundation and

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Speaker 1: the Wade Smith Foundation. Great and great football stuff. Thanks

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Speaker 1: so much for joining us today.

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Speaker 3: It's always real fell us.

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Speaker 1: All right, there's Wade Smith long segment, great segment, another

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Speaker 1: one coming your way as we talk about the news

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Speaker 1: of the day, and then some it's Texans Radio.

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Speaker 2: All right.

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Speaker 1: Great to have you listening tonight to Texans Radio. Mark

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Speaker 1: Vandermer and John Harris with you in thest of March Madness.

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Speaker 1: And not that Johnny and I were semi binge watching

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Speaker 1: some of it today, but we were because you know,

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Speaker 1: it's March madness.

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Speaker 2: I mean, what are you gonna do. We're here in studio,

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Speaker 2: We've got a lot of things going on.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, this is what you everybody wherever you are, you

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Speaker 5: work at a Forbes five hundred company or Fortune five

707
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Speaker 5: hundred company, like, you're gonna watch March Madness.

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Speaker 2: And here's the thing. You can watch it in so

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Speaker 2: many different ways.

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Speaker 5: Now, Oh yeah, you well you watch your computer with

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Speaker 5: you know, streaming service like I like, that's what you

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Speaker 5: do all the time.

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Speaker 1: That's with a huge flat screen in front of you.

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Speaker 1: I come in here sometimes from upstairs and I hear

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Speaker 1: you're watching a game or whatever you're watching. Usually it's

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Speaker 1: football talking to the game, but yeah, you're watching and

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Speaker 1: then I'm like, well, we do have a TV in

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Speaker 1: here too. We got a monitor that gets all sorts

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Speaker 1: of stuff.

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Speaker 5: When I remember back when you were at Miami, so

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Speaker 5: this is the late nineteen nineteen nineties.

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Speaker 2: Early two thousands.

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Speaker 5: I remember, I believe it was called I want to

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Speaker 5: say broadcast dot Com, but it was Mark Cubans and

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Speaker 5: Radio Service, right. So at that time, you could only

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Speaker 5: get one game on CBS. That's all you could get.

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00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:13,880
Speaker 5: Was one game on CBS. That was all you could get.

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Speaker 5: But on this new thing called the Internet, you could

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Speaker 5: end up getting no, you could get the radio broadcast

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Speaker 5: of various games. Cool, and it was cool as hell.

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Speaker 5: And then a few years later I ended up getting

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Speaker 5: I ended up getting I can't remember what it was called,

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Speaker 5: but I got this device where I could get all

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Speaker 5: the satellite stations, and I forgot what it was called,

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Speaker 5: but I'll never forget. I was listening and I was

736
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Speaker 5: I was flipping through different games on the radio because

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Speaker 5: I was driving, and all of a sudden, it came

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Speaker 5: across this game and.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, God, the voice sounds familiar.

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Speaker 5: I pulled into a Blockbuster and I sat there for

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Speaker 5: like five to never forget it, Like five to seven

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Speaker 5: minutes and then I hear smart vandam Mar you listen

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Speaker 5: to wes Wood. I was like, I thought that was

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Speaker 5: your voice.

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Speaker 2: What was the game? I can't remember the game, but.

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Speaker 1: It really it was like, yeah, it was like four

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Speaker 1: h five maybe yeah, because I'm when I did it

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Speaker 1: for a few years back then and I.

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Speaker 2: And I remember hearing the void.

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Speaker 5: I was like, and so I continue to sit but

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Speaker 5: I had I can't remember with that little devicess called

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Speaker 5: like it was like XM radio or something. I can't

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Speaker 5: remember what that was, but it gave me all the

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Speaker 5: different sale stations, so I could just kind of go back,

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Speaker 5: you'll go back through and so I was listening to

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Speaker 5: different games, and so I got on that one and

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Speaker 5: I heard your voice, Colin a Westwood one n C

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Speaker 5: double A game.

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Speaker 2: So that's how we used to do it back in

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Speaker 2: the day.

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Speaker 5: Now you have it on your phone and you can

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Speaker 5: on my phone on YouTube TV.

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Speaker 2: I can watch four games at one time.

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Speaker 1: I can do the multiview, you know, at this time

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Speaker 1: phone it's amazing. But you know what this time of

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Speaker 1: year is for the average sports fan who follows the tournament.

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Speaker 1: It's time to find out where True TV is again

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Speaker 1: on your system. That's exactly right. I don't watch it

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Speaker 1: any other time other than this time of here. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I know where TBS is, I know where TNT, yes, obviously,

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Speaker 1: but True TV is always a bit of a mystery,

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Speaker 1: and they might move it around. I don't even know.

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Speaker 1: I have Exfinity, so I don't know if they move

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Speaker 1: it around. But you're gonna go to True TV. The

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Speaker 1: Longhorns were on True TV last night.

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Speaker 2: I believe, I know.

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Speaker 5: The Longhorns gaged that one, but I was watching I

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Speaker 5: was watching that on my phone with the sound down

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Speaker 5: so I could be involved in the family unit watching

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Speaker 5: TV with my wife.

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Speaker 2: We were watching Survivor, and so I had it on

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Speaker 2: my phone.

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Speaker 5: I'm like, there's no sound at all, and I was

784
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Speaker 5: like completely enthralled by that game. It was such a

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Speaker 5: comeback by Xavier. There was a lot of juice in

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Speaker 5: that building in Dayton. It was I was, it was.

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Speaker 5: It was a fun watch, that's for sure.

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Speaker 1: I'm a Longhorn parent now, so I have to do

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Speaker 1: it for them, I guess before. I do like those

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Speaker 1: Xavier Musketeers because they're a former Atlantic ten team. And yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know, I did games at UMass against them when

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Speaker 1: James Posey was playing for the Musketeer.

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Speaker 2: Oh that's backways.

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Speaker 5: Okay, I'm gonna ask you this because you and I

795
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Speaker 5: we've been around, We've seen some things. This has become

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Speaker 5: more common now than than ever before.

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Speaker 2: And I watch your thoughts.

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Speaker 5: The first thing that stood out when I hearn the

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Speaker 5: game on was, oh, I kind of like this.

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Speaker 2: Both teams were wearing their dark uniforms. Oh yeah, you're right.

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Speaker 2: The Savior were they're blue, and then Texas War it's orange. Yeah.

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Speaker 5: As a guy that's called games for so many years,

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Speaker 5: to not have a jersey that's white in the game,

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Speaker 5: are you okay with that?

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Speaker 1: Con fine with that because there's enough of a contrast.

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Speaker 1: There's got to be a contrast. Uh. And you know

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Speaker 1: it's all about the uniform numbers too, especially in football,

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Speaker 1: where our own uniforms h town a little difficult sometimes. Sorry, Doug,

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Speaker 1: it's a little a little tough. Yeah, they did not

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Speaker 1: consult with me. Not number was like here's what it's

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Speaker 1: gonna be. I'm like, thank you, thank you. I'll take

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Speaker 1: it and like it. So I'm not going to complain.

813
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Speaker 1: But yeah, you want nice bold numbers you know what

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Speaker 1: the best numbers were color Rush Blue, the Texans. Those

815
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Speaker 1: really popped because they had the white outline on them.

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Speaker 2: Those very nice.

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Speaker 1: The battle reds, the new ones those are kind of

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Speaker 1: tough too, but you know what, I'll take it.

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Speaker 2: Didn't like those, and they love the h Town ones.

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Speaker 1: I know it is one in one the record this

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Speaker 1: year in those, but we'll see, oh one other thing

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Speaker 1: on the tournament. And the difference is as a sports fan,

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Speaker 1: just viewing sports, doing sports as a broadcaster, when you

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Speaker 1: heard that game on Westwood one, whatever it was with

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Speaker 1: me doing it, my first year couldn't have been the

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Speaker 1: first year because the first year doing these games, we

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Speaker 1: were all at the sites at the first round sites,

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Speaker 1: first and second round, and you would just sit there

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Speaker 1: and wait for them to say, all right, we're coming

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Speaker 1: to you go like you were not doing play by play.

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Speaker 2: Because it wasn't going anywhere. Oh wow.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't until my second year doing it that was

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Speaker 1: an three or four four where all right, we're gonna

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Speaker 1: do the whole game on x SAM and on the

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Speaker 1: big channel like Sports Radio six ten carries Westwood one.

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Speaker 2: They would just go.

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Speaker 1: Into your game if it was hot, you know, they

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00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:53,920
Speaker 1: were still doing the switcher route, so but back in

839
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Speaker 1: the first year, Yeah, it was just you're sitting there

840
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Speaker 1: court side. They're like, you want to just do play

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Speaker 1: by play to warm up. I'm like, yeah, I'll do it,

842
00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:01,120
Speaker 1: but it's all dressed up, no place to go, so

843
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Speaker 1: we weren't really doing it. I was with Glenn Consor,

844
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Speaker 1: who played for Patino at BU and does the Wizards now,

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Speaker 1: but we were just okay, one, two, three, go.

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Speaker 2: So it's just weird. Would you call all four games?

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Speaker 5: Like if you're doing first and second round, Like, the

848
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Speaker 5: first day is four games, and I've always thought about

849
00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:19,360
Speaker 5: these guys eight. I was gonna say, that's four games.

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Speaker 5: That's eight teams you got to prepare for now. No,

851
00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:23,080
Speaker 5: it's basketball, those small, smaller roster.

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Speaker 2: That's four games.

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Speaker 1: The long day is the day before because they have

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Speaker 1: all the shooters. They have eight shoot rounds. So you

855
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Speaker 1: have eight teams that you're in. It's an hour each

856
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Speaker 1: and you're watching it and you're so you're there for

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Speaker 1: eight hours and it's not like, oh, this hour, I'll

858
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Speaker 1: just kind of slack off. No, you have eight teams

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Speaker 1: that you probably don't know very much about, and it's

860
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Speaker 1: every hour is just like cramming, jamming, getting as much

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Speaker 1: information and knowledge and writing it all down, and you know,

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Speaker 1: by the time you get to team six, what was

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Speaker 1: team three again, I'm going to know that those better

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Speaker 1: be good notes, right, because then you do the games

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Speaker 1: and it's just okay, what's this one? But I did

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Speaker 1: a couple of good ones. I did fourteen beating a

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Speaker 1: three in the Northwestern State knocking off Iowa.

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Speaker 2: Oh you called that game? Read that game? Yeah one?

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Speaker 2: Yeahles hit the big three.

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Speaker 1: I did Tulsa knocking off or no, Wisconsin knocked off

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Speaker 1: Tulsa in Spokane in three in the second round. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: three pointer late at the buzzer to win the game.

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00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:20,880
Speaker 1: You know. I did a couple of good ones. I

874
00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:23,839
Speaker 1: did Kentucky, number one overall seed in the tournament, going

875
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:27,520
Speaker 1: down in four. I want to say to uh cheese,

876
00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:29,840
Speaker 1: was a UA B? I think the Blazers got them?

877
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:33,520
Speaker 2: That's right? Was the Twins? It was had.

878
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:35,600
Speaker 5: U A B has had a great basketball program for

879
00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:37,080
Speaker 5: a long time. It's I don't think it's been as good.

880
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:39,759
Speaker 5: But Jean Bartow, who it used to be with John

881
00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:42,279
Speaker 5: Wooden out UCLA went to U A B. Yeah, and

882
00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:44,560
Speaker 5: in the in the eighties, and so they had a

883
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:46,879
Speaker 5: really good they were sneaky hot team.

884
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:48,719
Speaker 2: You had to you definitely had to look out for

885
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:51,320
Speaker 2: some basketball tradition, no doubt. I'll tell you this. The

886
00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:52,240
Speaker 2: shoot round.

887
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:55,359
Speaker 5: I've been to every I've been in first, second round,

888
00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:57,719
Speaker 5: I've been to sweet sixteen, lead eight, I've been in

889
00:41:57,719 --> 00:41:58,359
Speaker 5: the Final four.

890
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:00,359
Speaker 2: One of my favorite.

891
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:02,000
Speaker 5: Things ever was going to the shoot round for the

892
00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:04,520
Speaker 5: Final four and ninety three. That was the year that

893
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:08,320
Speaker 5: Weber called the time out he didn't have. It was Kansas, Kentucky, Michigan,

894
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:10,520
Speaker 5: North Carolina. I mean, you don't get more blue blood

895
00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:13,279
Speaker 5: than that. Plus you had the Fab five there. So

896
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:15,319
Speaker 5: we decided to go on Friday. We're gonna like make

897
00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:17,240
Speaker 5: a whole experience of this. We go to the shooting

898
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:21,279
Speaker 5: round on Friday, and it was unbelievable to watch the

899
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:23,880
Speaker 5: four teams and how they went about that hour on

900
00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:24,600
Speaker 5: the court.

901
00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:25,640
Speaker 2: It was amazing.

902
00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:28,919
Speaker 5: Like North Carolina, it was like a mini practice, and

903
00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:31,440
Speaker 5: and Dean Smith running that practice. I mean it was

904
00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:34,160
Speaker 5: at one point we saw like Montrosse running and then

905
00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:35,200
Speaker 5: a couple other guys were like.

906
00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:37,319
Speaker 2: Who are those guys? We found out later those were

907
00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:40,799
Speaker 2: two managers that were running. Yeah, because yeah, they ran with.

908
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:46,640
Speaker 5: Montrosse something like what it was incredibly pristine, just perfect,

909
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:49,600
Speaker 5: I mean, like an OCD type thing. Then Patino comes

910
00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:52,280
Speaker 5: out there and they shot threes the whole time.

911
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:57,280
Speaker 1: They shot from every They shot from every angle.

912
00:42:57,480 --> 00:42:59,399
Speaker 2: Michigan went out there and put on a dunk show

913
00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:00,439
Speaker 2: with the foul five.

914
00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:00,839
Speaker 3: Right.

915
00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:02,040
Speaker 2: It was amazing to watch.

916
00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:04,400
Speaker 1: You know, well, we had the final four what was

917
00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:07,000
Speaker 1: it a couple of years ago with Miami and those teams? Yeh, yeah,

918
00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:12,920
Speaker 1: remember Miami and FAU. They practice in addition to that,

919
00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:15,400
Speaker 1: that shoot around is like, okay, we have to do

920
00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:16,360
Speaker 1: the shoot around here and.

921
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:18,759
Speaker 2: You're playing in this arena which is much bigger. That's

922
00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:20,640
Speaker 2: what it was in the Supernoma House. Get used to

923
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:21,080
Speaker 2: the building.

924
00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:24,160
Speaker 1: But they go to an undisclosed location of practice football

925
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:27,279
Speaker 1: related NFL teams and I get this question sometimes. I'm

926
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:29,040
Speaker 1: sure you do too. Do you guys do a walk

927
00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:31,840
Speaker 1: through at the stadium the day before? No college teams do.

928
00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:34,680
Speaker 1: They Most of them they'll go to the stadium the

929
00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:36,719
Speaker 1: day before they you're playing a game on the road, yea,

930
00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:39,560
Speaker 1: right Friday, they'll go to the stadium.

931
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:41,799
Speaker 2: They'll at least get a feel for it.

932
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:44,520
Speaker 1: If it's not a full walkthrough, it's a you know,

933
00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:47,839
Speaker 1: just a stroll through, so they can just get used

934
00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:50,160
Speaker 1: to the feel of it be in the building, you know.

935
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:53,080
Speaker 1: De Dimiko talks about Friday practice here for a home game.

936
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:55,120
Speaker 1: What does he want to see and he literally says

937
00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:58,080
Speaker 1: it publicly. I want to see my guys scoring touchdowns

938
00:43:58,080 --> 00:44:00,480
Speaker 1: in the home stadium on Friday. I want to see that.

939
00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:02,759
Speaker 1: I want them to feel that. And I think it's

940
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:05,719
Speaker 1: sort of a psychological thing. So I meant to talk

941
00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:07,840
Speaker 1: about something else, and we'll do it next. Because it

942
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:12,040
Speaker 1: was breaking news late yesterday regarding the Texans and there's

943
00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:15,160
Speaker 1: sports business news that is definitely eye opening. It's all

944
00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:18,680
Speaker 1: coming up next Texans Radio. All right, final segment. Let's

945
00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:21,680
Speaker 1: wrap it up here tonight with this. We never really

946
00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:26,000
Speaker 1: fully reacted to the danil Hunter extension Johnny, which broke

947
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:28,480
Speaker 1: late yesterday I think at the end of our show,

948
00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:29,759
Speaker 1: right as we were going off the air.

949
00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:31,080
Speaker 2: But that's nice.

950
00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:34,080
Speaker 1: It's very nice to have the hometown guy knowing that

951
00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:36,080
Speaker 1: he's here this year and next year because it was

952
00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:37,799
Speaker 1: a two year deal going into last year.

953
00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:39,520
Speaker 2: One thing jumps out to me.

954
00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:42,440
Speaker 1: I mean it's great to have Daniil no question, defensive

955
00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:45,799
Speaker 1: Player of the Year candidate for a long stretch last year.

956
00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:49,279
Speaker 1: Didn't get the finish he wanted. I mean, he didn't

957
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:51,200
Speaker 1: get the finish he wanted for the team. But yeah,

958
00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:53,440
Speaker 1: I got to say that he was right in the

959
00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:55,160
Speaker 1: thick of it. Had he had a couple of more

960
00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:58,520
Speaker 1: sacks here or there, he would have been a major

961
00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:01,560
Speaker 1: part of that conversation. In any case, he and Will.

962
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:04,719
Speaker 1: You've got these guys, and it's wonderful to have them

963
00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:07,040
Speaker 1: on the edges. You're paying a lot of guys now,

964
00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:09,000
Speaker 1: I mean, you got to pay Will and CJ next

965
00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:11,880
Speaker 1: year and who knows who else. So we've got some

966
00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:16,000
Speaker 1: bills to pay here in Houston with this franchise, and

967
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:18,760
Speaker 1: they're gonna want the results. They're gonna want those results.

968
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:22,839
Speaker 1: But I think that the guys they're paying the attitude.

969
00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:25,440
Speaker 1: Wade Smith talked about it in segment one. If if

970
00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:28,200
Speaker 1: you've missed any of that, you've got to catch it

971
00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:31,200
Speaker 1: on the podcast, because if you listen to Way, you

972
00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:34,120
Speaker 1: will fully understand why they are doing what they're doing

973
00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:36,640
Speaker 1: on the offensive line. Now, whether it works, we're gonna

974
00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:39,920
Speaker 1: all wait and see and watch together. But Wade explains

975
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:43,280
Speaker 1: it so well as a veteran who's played every position

976
00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:46,560
Speaker 1: on the line pro bowler. Great to hear his explanation.

977
00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:50,440
Speaker 1: But Johnny, you'll agree they've got people in the building

978
00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:53,360
Speaker 1: that they feel like these are the people we need.

979
00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:54,480
Speaker 2: And want to build around.

980
00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:56,719
Speaker 1: We talked about how many guys are here this offseason

981
00:45:56,719 --> 00:45:58,880
Speaker 1: working out. It's probably a record number. I don't know

982
00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:01,359
Speaker 1: that officially, but I've ever seen this many guys working

983
00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:04,359
Speaker 1: out on a daily basis. And guys who have big contracts,

984
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:06,839
Speaker 1: they're not just in search of them, they've got them.

985
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:10,000
Speaker 1: And it's the Wats syndrome of I've got the contract,

986
00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:12,400
Speaker 1: now I'm gonna show you I'm doing extra work because

987
00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:12,920
Speaker 1: I've got it.

988
00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:17,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, and going almost overboard to show that that he's

989
00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:20,399
Speaker 5: worth the deal. Nico did that last year, Stings doing it.

990
00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:22,640
Speaker 5: I had a great time talking with Sting. I wish

991
00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:24,200
Speaker 5: you'd have been in here. I mean, he had his

992
00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:27,960
Speaker 5: family in here, and it was just beaming with pride.

993
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:29,879
Speaker 5: I mean it was just it was awesome to see

994
00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:32,120
Speaker 5: and I love that, and you know, great to see

995
00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:35,480
Speaker 5: Danil You'll get that extension. And it happened like literally

996
00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:38,959
Speaker 5: you know, as always go Texans, how I finish every

997
00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:41,800
Speaker 5: show and all right, go to Twitter and like, boom,

998
00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:42,399
Speaker 5: there it is.

999
00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:44,080
Speaker 2: I love Daniel.

1000
00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:46,080
Speaker 5: We had Daniel in here last year and we were

1001
00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:49,200
Speaker 5: off the air and I had I had my draft

1002
00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:51,400
Speaker 5: stuff up, and I was were you were chatting with

1003
00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:52,879
Speaker 5: him and we're getting to know him a little bit,

1004
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:55,840
Speaker 5: and and uh, I had mentioned something about his draft

1005
00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:58,560
Speaker 5: report and I was like, take a listen to what

1006
00:46:58,560 --> 00:46:59,799
Speaker 5: I said about you. And I was like, oh god,

1007
00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:02,320
Speaker 5: that was dumb, because I'm not I don't remember exactly

1008
00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:02,719
Speaker 5: what I said.

1009
00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:04,040
Speaker 2: Then I went and looked at I was like, oh god.

1010
00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:07,600
Speaker 5: And I read it to him and he stopped because

1011
00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:09,760
Speaker 5: at the very end I made a comment about how

1012
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:12,600
Speaker 5: he really had not become a polished pass rusher basically,

1013
00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:14,960
Speaker 5: and that that really kind of bothered me. So he's

1014
00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:16,800
Speaker 5: probably not gonna be a first second round pick because

1015
00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:18,720
Speaker 5: of that. Well, he ended up going into third round.

1016
00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:20,680
Speaker 5: And so I read that to him, and you know, Daniel,

1017
00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:23,440
Speaker 5: he's got very serious. He looked at me and he.

1018
00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:25,319
Speaker 2: Was like and I was like, oh god, he's about

1019
00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:25,880
Speaker 2: to kill me right here.

1020
00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:29,360
Speaker 5: And he goes, You're dead on he goes, I understood

1021
00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:31,719
Speaker 5: that when I got to Minnesota, like that was the

1022
00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:33,839
Speaker 5: switch that flipped from me, like I had to put

1023
00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:36,880
Speaker 5: it all together, and that's when I really started kind

1024
00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:39,520
Speaker 5: of honing my craft. And this goes back to one

1025
00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:42,440
Speaker 5: of the things too. Daniel was Youngdan he was twenty ish,

1026
00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:45,080
Speaker 5: I think it was twenty when he was going through

1027
00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:47,560
Speaker 5: the draft process back at twenty fifteen, and it's like,

1028
00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:51,359
Speaker 5: you see what he's become, but you go back and

1029
00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:54,239
Speaker 5: you look at what he was going in and I

1030
00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:56,160
Speaker 5: think a lot of people forget about that because it

1031
00:47:56,680 --> 00:47:58,879
Speaker 5: leads kind of to the offensive line conversation mark because

1032
00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:01,240
Speaker 5: I think a lot of people are like, fix it now,

1033
00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:04,439
Speaker 5: fix it with NFL veterans, now, fix it now, fix

1034
00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:04,680
Speaker 5: it now.

1035
00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:07,279
Speaker 2: I wanted March nineteenth, March twentieth, I want to fix now.

1036
00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:08,600
Speaker 2: And it's like, hold on now.

1037
00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:11,680
Speaker 5: You might have to take guys in the draft that

1038
00:48:11,719 --> 00:48:16,399
Speaker 5: aren't completely polished ready to go and rely on them

1039
00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:20,680
Speaker 5: to build themselves up like Daniel did to become the player.

1040
00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:23,360
Speaker 5: They can be like Daniel did. And if you have

1041
00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:26,600
Speaker 5: the right environment, which I think you definitely are building,

1042
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:29,560
Speaker 5: those guys are gonna walk in here. As you know,

1043
00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:32,160
Speaker 5: rookie offensive lineman and see how it's done and go,

1044
00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:35,400
Speaker 5: oh okay, all right, I got to match that standard. Yeah,

1045
00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:37,360
Speaker 5: because that's what Derek said. Derek's like, I got to

1046
00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:38,440
Speaker 5: match Nico's standard.

1047
00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:41,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean go set that. They've set that standard.

1048
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:42,800
Speaker 1: You got to match that.

1049
00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:46,200
Speaker 2: Nico is drafted in what round? Third round? Third round?

1050
00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:47,000
Speaker 2: Third round?

1051
00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:51,920
Speaker 1: So look forward to the draft two as an acquisition vehicle, folks,

1052
00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:53,720
Speaker 1: the Texans draft.

1053
00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:56,080
Speaker 2: Well, let's go. All right, that's gonna do it for

1054
00:48:56,160 --> 00:48:56,520
Speaker 2: the show.

1055
00:48:56,760 --> 00:48:59,319
Speaker 1: Didn't get to the Sports Business News, which is the

1056
00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:02,960
Speaker 1: Celtics soul for over six billion dollars. We'll talk to

1057
00:49:03,120 --> 00:49:05,520
Speaker 1: We'll talk about that tomorrow because it is definitely worth

1058
00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:08,440
Speaker 1: talking about as it relates to the NFL. All right,

1059
00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:11,719
Speaker 1: that's it. More March Madness coming away on Sports Radio

1060
00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:14,399
Speaker 1: six ten. This show up in podcast forms soon enough.

1061
00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:16,080
Speaker 1: Have a great night, Go tech Sins