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Speaker 2: few other pods for you to check out. Yesterday, No

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Speaker 2: Breaks tk Graydon jd reviewing the nineteen ninety film Days

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Speaker 2: of Thunder Tom Cruise. Yeah, Nicole Kidman, I listened to

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I got to rewatch Days of Thunder now after

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Speaker 2: That's sometimes that's all you want on a lazy Sunday,

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Speaker 2: right throwing Days of Thunder and then coming up later today.

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Speaker 2: Another podcast, It has its own podcast feed as well.

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Speaker 2: Because this is a restaurant edition. J D. Could you

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Speaker 2: So I'll probably use this going forward. I only push

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Speaker 4: That's definitely not his ideal. But when you got to

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Speaker 2: Go ahead.

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Speaker 4: Numbers, incredible numbers, incredible that he has his highest scoring

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Speaker 2: Yeah, tell me about it.

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Speaker 2: That's in the bubble.

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Speaker 1: That's in the bubble. He signed the Magic. We're in

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Speaker 1: I remember him for off court stuff, yeah, and I

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I could see him ending games, you know, if

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Speaker 2: This really put into perspective how quickly a team can

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Speaker 2: I think there's only two guys if you were to return,

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Speaker 1: This is an ultimate Remember this guy team. Remember markl Foltz,

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Speaker 1: also still there. Remember Terrence Ross, He's been in trade

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Speaker 1: I know he's gonna get traded this year. This is

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Speaker 1: a first off pick for Terrence Ross. Obviously, Okay, who

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Speaker 2: Eric Gordon or Terrence Ross?

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Speaker 1: I saw. I was watching him on the Miday Night

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Speaker 1: Eric Gordon, he's been in trade rumors since James Harden

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the Magic are full of players that are you know,

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Speaker 2: I know, the record is horrible, and there was some

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Speaker 2: Could you be in a play in race? Stuff like that.

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Speaker 2: You know, it was always weird debating was it gonna

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Speaker 2: for the Sickos out there and this guy like coming through.

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Speaker 2: We would always see those flashes when he was with

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Speaker 2: So you know, I guess, like, who cares. If they

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Speaker 2: That's fine. I think you're totally happy with as long

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Speaker 4: seventy five. Actually that's an overestimation by traditional Row two

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Speaker 4: But Yeah, they're cherry picked. It's like Vince Carter played

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Speaker 1: You know it always catch yourself.

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Speaker 4: you mentioned teams that haven't started, well, they're skis.

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Speaker 4: The Los Angeles Lakers are one of them, and apparently

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Speaker 4: they're there's some buzz about Anthony Davis being dealt efficient

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Speaker 1: So are you buying the buzz.

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Speaker 2: From noted Celtics fan Bill Simmons regarding the Lakers. I mean,

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Speaker 2: there's no he doesn't reference any sort of source on this.

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Speaker 2: This is what does buzz mean. I mean he knows people.

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Speaker 2: Don't get me wrong. I'm sure it's been talked about

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Speaker 2: he goes to the bench, he's playing, all right, you're

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Speaker 2: I don't think in Darvin Ham. So then who's next.

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Speaker 2: naturally falls to then Anthony Davis. I think that's why

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Speaker 2: we're at the buzz, right.

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Speaker 4: Are you buying the buzz? I suppose, But that means

435
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Speaker 4: the Lakers are going in a very different direction because

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Speaker 4: they're not going to get.

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Speaker 1: Exactly they can't trade Anthony Davis until Lebron is done

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Speaker 1: for the season, basically, right, like, because that's up on

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Speaker 1: the season, is trading Anthony Davis feels like it. So

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Speaker 1: Lebron's not shutting it down for the season till after

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Speaker 1: he passes Kareem, right, And that's not gonna be probably

442
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Speaker 1: till the second half of the season, which means you

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Speaker 1: might be running up to the trade deadline. So I mean,

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Speaker 1: certainly it makes sense. He's the probably has the most

445
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Speaker 1: trade value of anybody you could trade on this team,

446
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Speaker 1: and if they'd go for a hard reset, it definitely

447
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Speaker 1: makes sense. But it wouldn't be until after Lebron says

448
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Speaker 1: this season is.

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Speaker 4: Over, agreed, and it would be the second half of

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Speaker 4: the season, because Lebron's still got to get there. He's

451
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Speaker 4: still got to pass Kareem's still going to take some games.

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Speaker 4: So that brings up the question from usual adhesiveness ninety

453
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Speaker 4: two here on Reddit. Who gonna trade for him?

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Speaker 1: Though?

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Speaker 4: I mean that's a fair question because Anthony Davis, even

456
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Speaker 4: if you call him the best player on the team,

457
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Speaker 4: we're seeing a guy not performed to his capabilities, a guy, well,

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Speaker 4: he's playing, he's.

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Speaker 2: Part okay, he's embraced playing center. He's playing through injuries.

460
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Speaker 2: He still averages twenty three to ten point six stocks.

461
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Speaker 2: You know, Steel's plus block, So he's still one of

462
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Speaker 2: the elite defenders when he's out there. Like is Anthony

463
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Speaker 2: Davis even in a I guess a somewhat down year

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Speaker 2: here for him, even though it's not that bad. Is

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Speaker 2: he a top fifteen player? Like with a bang still

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Speaker 2: to you with a bang, I don't know. I know

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Speaker 2: he's I don't I'm not making a cases top five,

468
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Speaker 2: he's not in an MVP conversation. I probably wouldn't even

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Speaker 2: make the cases top ten. I think he's somewhere between

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Speaker 2: ten and twenty.

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Speaker 1: I would say top fifteen without a bang tho, because

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Speaker 1: he's shooting twenty nine percent from three, which is the problem.

473
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Speaker 1: Like Anthony Davis at his best has a money jump shot.

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Speaker 1: We saw it in the bubble after he had four

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Speaker 1: months off basically to rest up and get his body

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Speaker 1: completely right for that championship run. But you know, Anthony

477
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Speaker 1: Davis needs to have a little bit of stretch in

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Speaker 1: his game. He does not have it right now, and

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Speaker 1: that makes it tough for him and for the Lakers

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Speaker 1: because every basket has to come inside, which is where

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Speaker 1: all of the defenders are.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and that is a part of why the buzz

483
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Speaker 2: is buzzing in Bill Simmons ear here. It's because he

484
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Speaker 2: does not look really worthy of receiving the toy that

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Speaker 2: Lebron will eventually pass to him to like, hey, take

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Speaker 2: over the franchise, Like that was a whole part of

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Speaker 2: the plan, right, I was planning this season. They keep

488
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Speaker 2: telling us eight he's the most important guy, He's the

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Speaker 2: number one guy. Hell, Lebron says this, and it's like,

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Speaker 2: as great as the numbers are, it hasn't appeared that way.

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Speaker 2: I think to most people on the outside. Maybe Lakers

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Speaker 2: fans disagree with me, I'm not sure.

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Speaker 4: And it's also hard to envision all these packages that

494
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Speaker 4: are being dealt for Donovan Mitchell and Rudy Gobert, Jante

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Speaker 4: Murray that Anthony Davis at this point, even if he

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Speaker 4: is good even if he is top fifteen, that he

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Speaker 4: would garner a package like that.

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Speaker 2: Oh you think so?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think that there, it's anywhere close to

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Speaker 4: those packages.

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Speaker 2: Why do you say that because of his injury history?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, because where he is in his career. I mean

503
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Speaker 4: we're talking second half of his career here.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I think we all sort of overestimate because he won

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Speaker 4: a championship with Lebron that his first part of his

507
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Speaker 4: career with the Pelicans just wasn't all that all that jazzy,

508
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Speaker 4: other than the numbers that he's continuing to put up now.

509
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Speaker 4: He won one playoff series, just one. The numbers were great,

510
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Speaker 4: all Star appears after All Star appearance. But if you're

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Speaker 4: giving up all that stuff, m you probably think of

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Speaker 4: him as your number one. Now, I guess you wouldn't

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Speaker 4: say that about Rudy Goberry's not your number one. Yeah,

514
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Speaker 4: it's same with the Jenttey Murray. But I guess I guess.

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Speaker 2: That's why I like a Mavericks potential trade. The idea of, like,

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Speaker 2: you don't have to be our number one, You're gonna

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Speaker 2: be playing with h Lebron number two in this league

518
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Speaker 2: and Luca do you know what I mean?

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Speaker 4: Do they have the goods? I know you have some potential.

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Speaker 2: Saw my guy went through the internet last night. I

521
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Speaker 2: looked at everything on the internet last night. You know

522
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Speaker 2: there's no basketball on. Yeah, and then you know it's

523
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Speaker 2: like you can only watch so much of the election

524
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Speaker 2: results right started going blind. So I was like, Okay,

525
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Speaker 2: let me go find some how's the internet potential and

526
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Speaker 2: the other It was all right last night I got

527
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Speaker 2: some here. I want to give him some shout outs

528
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Speaker 2: to Grant Hughes at Bleacher Report had a great article

529
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Speaker 2: on landing spots. Sean Devinie at Heavy Sports NBA read

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Speaker 2: it coming through the Trade Machine because I always find

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Speaker 2: these trades that people throw out, and I was like,

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Speaker 2: I got I gotta test these, I gotta tweak them

533
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Speaker 2: a little bit.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know I did that.

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Speaker 4: I want to see so these are all executed, These

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Speaker 4: are all.

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Speaker 2: In theory it would work. And I will say, before

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Speaker 2: I get into the trades for Anthony Davis, uh, I

539
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Speaker 2: think Silver Screen roll a great Lakers blog, is right.

540
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Speaker 2: We got to this like, oh man, we got to

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Speaker 2: trade Anthony Davis real quick here in the season. It's

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Speaker 2: probably not happening because they're not going to get back

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Speaker 2: value for them and they are still, despite their record

544
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Speaker 2: in theory, trying to win games and to get into

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Speaker 2: the postseason and to win a title with Lebron near

546
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Speaker 2: the end of his career. So with all that said, though,

547
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Speaker 2: let's get into some trades, some hypothetical trades. Do you

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Speaker 2: want to start with the Mavericks go at that one?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Because, Okay, it's always intriguing, and I think the MAVs,

551
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Speaker 4: I don't know if they're regretting the Jalen Bruns and thing,

552
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Speaker 4: but they want they definitely want another one, another star.

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Speaker 2: Okay, well you said that you don't think Anthony Davis

554
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Speaker 2: would get the amount of picks and swaps that we

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Speaker 2: have seen obviously de Jontay Murray three first and a swap,

556
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Speaker 2: Donovan Mitchell three first, who swaps? So the Mavericks could

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Speaker 2: be one of those teams in a hypothetical for eighty

558
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Speaker 2: where they could give up similar like things.

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Speaker 1: Right they got the good three and two.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they could do this.

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Speaker 1: Okay.

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Speaker 2: It would take Christian Wood, Spencer, Dinwittie, Reggie Bullock, and

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Speaker 2: then a bunch of draft capital, a lot of unprotected

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Speaker 2: first round picks you know in future, probably twenty five,

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Speaker 2: twenty seven, twenty ninth type of thing, and then you're

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Speaker 2: swaps in the uh. I guess that would be even

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Speaker 2: numbered years for an Anthony Davis would dinwitty Bullock for

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Speaker 2: ad with all the picks.

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Speaker 1: What says you, I've never heard it phrased that way.

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Speaker 1: You usually hear who says, no, I get I don't.

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Speaker 1: I don't hate it.

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Speaker 2: It's not atrocious.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't hate it. From like they're obviously giving

574
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Speaker 4: up at that point. It's it is about the picks.

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Speaker 4: I do want to see Spencer Dinwiddie get a little

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Speaker 4: bit more pub on the microphone and LA would help that,

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Speaker 4: I think, because as we've seen this week, the guy

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Speaker 4: is good on the mic. Get him on the mic

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Speaker 4: more so. I think that would help. I think it

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Speaker 4: would help us NBA redditors for content. But it's it's

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Speaker 4: I'm finding it hard to imagine because it would be

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Speaker 4: the Lakers giving up this week.

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Speaker 2: Well okay, okay, no, no, no, hold on, because what

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Speaker 2: do we say about the Lakers. They have two great

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Speaker 2: guys and then the rest of the team sort of sucks,

586
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Speaker 2: like the roster's pretty rough. We keep saying that all

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Speaker 2: season long. Yeah, so what's fascinating about these trade ideas?

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Speaker 2: If you are moving off AD is like you're usually like, oh,

589
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Speaker 2: of course we want another starback to pair with Lebron.

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Speaker 2: But maybe that's not what the Lakers should be looking for.

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Speaker 2: Maybe it's actually trading one, four, three or four for

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Speaker 2: an actual team.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but they're not gonna be better this year.

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Speaker 4: I get the idea. I get the idea they lack depth,

595
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Speaker 4: but then they don't have star power.

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Speaker 2: Well, hey, star power is not working.

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Speaker 1: So wait, you're telling me you want the Lakers to

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Speaker 1: become the Dallas Mavericks, And every time we talk about

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Speaker 1: the Mavericks you say they need a second start. Yes,

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Speaker 1: they don't have enough. Guys.

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Speaker 2: No, I'm just trying to play Devil's advocate here, because

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Speaker 2: you know you are. We're throwing out hypothetical that's top

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Speaker 2: fifteen or top twenty, wherever the hell you're putting AD.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the difference between the Lakers is they don't have Luca.

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Speaker 4: I mean, that's that's the biggest difference. And then and

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Speaker 4: then the future. This is about the future. It's about

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Speaker 4: the picks. That's what it's about. Okay, what do you

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Speaker 4: think when you're comparing these next ones, it's gonna be

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Speaker 4: about the picks?

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Speaker 1: Really? I think, Okay, what says you, what says me?

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Speaker 1: I think the Mavericks say, no, they're not missing Jalen

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Speaker 1: Brunson one bit. Their offense is a lot better than

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Speaker 1: it was last year. I think the Mavericks might be

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Speaker 1: a little hesitant to put another injury problem next to

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Speaker 1: Luka Doncic chapter that Kristaps guess it, spear men. The

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Speaker 1: more I think about what's going on with Luca and

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Speaker 1: the Mavericks this year, it's so similar to me to

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Speaker 1: what happened with the Grizzlies and John Morant last year.

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Speaker 1: Because three seasons ago Valentunis was a monster for the Grizzlies,

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Speaker 1: they traded him. More like, what are they doing? Why

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Speaker 1: are they giving up a guy who can carry the

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Speaker 1: offense When John Morant sits, it's because Valentunis and Brunson

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Speaker 1: just the same way, they require possessions. Nobody else on

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Speaker 1: the Mavericks right now requires possessions, So Luca gets all

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Speaker 1: of them. It's better to have Luca have the ball

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Speaker 1: than Anthony Davis, than Jalen Brunson. It's better to have

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Speaker 1: job to have the ball than yonas valentiunis give the

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Speaker 1: ball to your best guy all the time. So I

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Speaker 1: don't know. I think this makes the Mavericks even even shallower.

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Speaker 1: If it's just basically Luca an ad out there, they

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Speaker 1: become the Lakers. Ain't going well for the Lakers, so

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Speaker 1: I think the MAVs say no here.

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Speaker 4: I think the MAVs situation, though, is great right now,

634
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Speaker 4: but it sort of reminds me of what happened with

635
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Speaker 4: Tree Young and the Hawks last year. An incredible offense

636
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Speaker 4: in the regular season and similar literally you know what

637
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Speaker 4: happened to James Harden. Both situations never won it. So

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Speaker 4: I know Luca is an extremely special talent, but I

639
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Speaker 4: think they do want somebody to take some possessions. Harden

640
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Speaker 4: got the closest when he had Chris Paul beside him.

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Speaker 4: Trey Young obviously did not work out last year when

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Speaker 4: he got pushed around by the heat. Now Luca ain't

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Speaker 4: gonna get pushed around, but they're playing the slowest pace

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Speaker 4: in the league to get him as much rest on

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Speaker 4: the defensive end as possible. I think they would like

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Speaker 4: somebody to suck up some possessions because that type of offense,

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Speaker 4: the old helio centric offense, it just doesn't win. And

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Speaker 4: so he may be able to prove it wrong. He

649
00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:42,120
Speaker 4: may be able to do what Harden couldn't do in

650
00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:44,760
Speaker 4: the playoffs because he's a different type.

651
00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:46,480
Speaker 1: Of guy and he's done what Harden can't do in

652
00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:49,000
Speaker 1: the playoffs. He's had game winners in the playoffs. He's

653
00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:51,120
Speaker 1: taking his team to the conference finals in year three.

654
00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:53,680
Speaker 4: But nobody is wanted. There's no good example of a

655
00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:55,200
Speaker 4: guy who's won the championship.

656
00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:59,080
Speaker 1: Steph Carry. Steph Carry plays a different type of guess.

657
00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:04,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know it's compared Apple think. Okay, well let's

658
00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:06,800
Speaker 2: move off that one. Let's go to the Knicks because

659
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:08,840
Speaker 2: they are you know, they didn't make the Mitchell move,

660
00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:11,320
Speaker 2: so they have the players and still the draft pick

661
00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:14,480
Speaker 2: capital to do it. So there's a couple of ways

662
00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:19,240
Speaker 2: you go about this. Lakers receive let's say RJ. Barrett,

663
00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:23,320
Speaker 2: Evan Fournier, Obi Toppin, and then some pick capital, probably

664
00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:25,600
Speaker 2: two twenty three first round picks, and then a twenty

665
00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:27,160
Speaker 2: five first round pick by way of the Bucks, I

666
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:30,840
Speaker 2: believe for Anthony Davis, I'll start with that. You could

667
00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:34,160
Speaker 2: swap in Mitchell Robinson instead of Evan Fournier, you wouldn't

668
00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:36,000
Speaker 2: have to you'd have to wait until mid December to

669
00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:38,800
Speaker 2: do that. And you could also throw in, you know,

670
00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:41,240
Speaker 2: if the Lakers like, we want Quentin Grimes, Okay, well

671
00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:42,800
Speaker 2: then you got to throw in like a Kendrick Nunn

672
00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:45,400
Speaker 2: to make the books work here. But at the core, Barrett,

673
00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:48,080
Speaker 2: let's call it Fournier right now, Obi toppin and then

674
00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:54,160
Speaker 2: picks for Anthony Davis. The Knicks obviously get there, you know,

675
00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:56,840
Speaker 2: a top fifteen, top twenty guy that they've been searching

676
00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:57,360
Speaker 2: for for.

677
00:31:57,480 --> 00:31:58,760
Speaker 1: What do you think?

678
00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:00,800
Speaker 2: You go ahead, Who's what? Says you?

679
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:05,960
Speaker 1: I'm kind of interested in this. The Knicks do need

680
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:07,600
Speaker 1: a star. I think I would. I mean, if they

681
00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:09,160
Speaker 1: could figure out a way to do it for Randall,

682
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:12,800
Speaker 1: I think it's a done deal, absolutely for sure, contract wise,

683
00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:14,960
Speaker 1: and you know, kind of swap in and out wise

684
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:18,160
Speaker 1: would be pretty smooth. But I think this sounds like

685
00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:21,600
Speaker 1: a Knicks move to me, trading some some young pieces

686
00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:25,040
Speaker 1: and some picks for a star where there are some concerns,

687
00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:27,440
Speaker 1: but I think it's a good move. I think Davis

688
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:30,040
Speaker 1: would be an upgrade basically everywhere for the Knicks here, right,

689
00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:32,640
Speaker 1: and your thoughts.

690
00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:38,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, they're giving up the future.

691
00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:39,840
Speaker 1: It's the pick. It's all about the picks. Really.

692
00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:44,280
Speaker 4: I'm an Rgie Barrett Man as well. But yes, as

693
00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:47,240
Speaker 4: far as this one goes, it's decent. It's a decent trade.

694
00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:50,080
Speaker 4: It's looking a little bit more even. But I if

695
00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:52,880
Speaker 4: I'm the Knicks, they didn't do it for Donovan Mitchell.

696
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:55,040
Speaker 4: I don't think they're doing it for Anthony Davis.

697
00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:59,520
Speaker 2: Okay, let's go to the Bulls. Then a couple options

698
00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:02,040
Speaker 2: with the Bulls. There's one with Vouch in the deal,

699
00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:03,880
Speaker 2: there's one with Vooch not in the deal, and instead

700
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:06,240
Speaker 2: Zach Lavine. Let's go with the Vouch one. First Lakers

701
00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:10,720
Speaker 2: get Vucevic, Patrick Williams, Kobe White, and then a twenty

702
00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:13,880
Speaker 2: three first round pick. By the way, the Blazers for

703
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:16,480
Speaker 2: Anthony Davis. Ship it, ship it. That one's a no

704
00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:17,520
Speaker 2: brainer for Chicago.

705
00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:21,160
Speaker 1: No brainer. Yeah, that's absolutely no brainer. Vooch is at

706
00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:23,880
Speaker 1: the end of his contract. Patrick Williams has had a

707
00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:27,560
Speaker 1: couple of good games here, but year three, I think, uh,

708
00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:29,280
Speaker 1: even if he becomes a player, I think it's fine

709
00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:31,200
Speaker 1: to move on from him. Kobe White not a part

710
00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:33,040
Speaker 1: of the future there at all, so everything else is

711
00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:35,360
Speaker 1: just contract wise. I just don't think the Lakers would

712
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:37,200
Speaker 1: probably do it because they're not getting a really good pick.

713
00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:40,360
Speaker 2: Okay, then what about replacing Zach Lavine instead of Vucovic?

714
00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:43,520
Speaker 2: There Zach Lavine, Patrick Williams, Kobe White, the picks that

715
00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:46,360
Speaker 2: I said for Anthony Davis and that one couldn't be

716
00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:47,680
Speaker 2: done until mid January.

717
00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:50,040
Speaker 1: But that's a no for me. That's a dog, that's

718
00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:53,000
Speaker 1: a no. Yeah. I don't know. I don't like Traydon Levine.

719
00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:55,520
Speaker 2: The Lakers, of course, way more likely to be like, yeah, okay,

720
00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:55,840
Speaker 2: we'll do that.

721
00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:59,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly right. I just thought a DeRozan Anthony Davis

722
00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:02,320
Speaker 1: Vouch team doesn't sound like it's better to me than

723
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:03,960
Speaker 1: a Drouze Levine Booch team.

724
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:07,720
Speaker 4: Right, Okay, these uh hits again into the nitty gritty.

725
00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:09,040
Speaker 4: But these bulls picks are.

726
00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:11,960
Speaker 2: I mean, I literally just threw one in their twenty

727
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:13,040
Speaker 2: three first round pick.

728
00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:15,480
Speaker 1: I I this is a problem because they've traded. They've traded.

729
00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:17,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. That one's like I said, it's by the

730
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:18,920
Speaker 2: way of the Blazer. So it's like it may not

731
00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:19,719
Speaker 2: even be that good this year.

732
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:22,279
Speaker 4: Yeah, not a lot in the pick department would have

733
00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:25,400
Speaker 4: to include. It would have to include Zach Lavine, absolutely.

734
00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:26,960
Speaker 2: Right, because then you're still we're just like, Okay, we

735
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:28,520
Speaker 2: still want to win. We're just gonna go about it

736
00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:29,160
Speaker 2: a different way.

737
00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:29,719
Speaker 1: Yeah.

738
00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:31,879
Speaker 4: Yeah, and they're not getting but there's it's not much.

739
00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:34,880
Speaker 4: That first package is not much for the present and

740
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:37,040
Speaker 4: not much for the future either. Really with just the

741
00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:37,800
Speaker 4: one pick.

742
00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:40,839
Speaker 2: Right, what about Uh, let's tweak it one more time here,

743
00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:43,120
Speaker 2: you wanted to get Randall back to the Lakers. What

744
00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:46,080
Speaker 2: about getting Lonzo Ball back to the Lakers ship it? Okay,

745
00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:49,520
Speaker 2: so so either but not zachly because you could replace

746
00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:52,759
Speaker 2: Lonzo for h for Williams and White here, and you

747
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:54,480
Speaker 2: could go that way. So it could be a Vouch

748
00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:56,720
Speaker 2: and Lonzo, it could be a Zach Lavine and Lonzo

749
00:34:57,080 --> 00:35:01,120
Speaker 2: and that pick for for a d injured guys for injured.

750
00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:04,720
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's a that's a part of the reason

751
00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:06,880
Speaker 1: I would do it. I know Lonzo's knee concerns have

752
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:09,760
Speaker 1: to be in the mind of the Bulls front office

753
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:12,000
Speaker 1: for sure. Uh so, yeah, do this one and throw

754
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:13,839
Speaker 1: in the twenty twenty seven first round er as well.

755
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:17,439
Speaker 2: Okay, let's go to the Miami Heat. This is one

756
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:20,560
Speaker 2: that I was just like, you know, racking and racking

757
00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:22,160
Speaker 2: around my brain. That's not a saying is.

758
00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:24,359
Speaker 4: That it was rolling around your brain, but you're also

759
00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:26,120
Speaker 4: racking your brain. You did a combination that.

760
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:31,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, the Lakers need some shooting. They could they

761
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:33,640
Speaker 2: would probably be helped out with like a point guard

762
00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:36,719
Speaker 2: that can maybe play a little defense and uh, you

763
00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:39,680
Speaker 2: know obviously hit a three, hopefully in like postseason or

764
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:43,120
Speaker 2: obviously trying to make into the postseason. So what about

765
00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:46,600
Speaker 2: Kyle Lowry and Duncan Robinson and multiple first round picks

766
00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:51,719
Speaker 2: and swaps that they have for Anthony Davis, Just like

767
00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:55,920
Speaker 2: the Heat, Say, Butler, you're a point guard. Okay, this

768
00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:57,680
Speaker 2: is Kyle's not playing all that well.

769
00:35:57,520 --> 00:36:02,160
Speaker 4: Whatever, even Gabe is fine, gave Vincent is played gain.

770
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:05,080
Speaker 4: See if I'm the Heat them, Yeah, you're doing it very.

771
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:07,840
Speaker 2: Much doing that you're buying? Is that a you know,

772
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:10,560
Speaker 2: Lowry was rumored to go to the Lakers a couple

773
00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:12,440
Speaker 2: of years ago, right, and it was like no, they

774
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:15,000
Speaker 2: didn't want to make it happen. So Lowry, Duncan Rominson,

775
00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:17,279
Speaker 2: multiple first round picks and swaps would have to be here.

776
00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:21,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, this package is better than even the Bulls because

777
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:23,400
Speaker 4: of the amount of picks going the other way. They

778
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:26,520
Speaker 4: are like the Bulls though in that they're getting older

779
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:28,440
Speaker 4: and they want to go all in like they've the

780
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:31,640
Speaker 4: Bulls have already sort of said with how many picks

781
00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:33,759
Speaker 4: that they've traded, they're ready to go in the heat.

782
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:35,520
Speaker 4: To me, are the same, and that's why they were

783
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:39,040
Speaker 4: in the rumors for Kevin Duran even and for others

784
00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:42,279
Speaker 4: in the offseason. They want to push forward, so I

785
00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:44,200
Speaker 4: think they would, they would try it out, and Anthony

786
00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:45,840
Speaker 4: Davis does not have to be the number one on

787
00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:50,239
Speaker 4: that team whatsoever. So again, as much as you know,

788
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:53,680
Speaker 4: going back, as much as I you know, like Christian Spencer,

789
00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:56,680
Speaker 4: Dinwiddie or those guys, it's all about damn picks. I

790
00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:59,200
Speaker 4: think if you're the Lakers, I think you're you're Rob

791
00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:04,279
Speaker 4: Polinka and you're I want this gig for life, and

792
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:05,359
Speaker 4: I think that's what it's about.

793
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:06,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, he probably he's good.

794
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:09,560
Speaker 1: He probably does. But he got an extension for breaking

795
00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:12,120
Speaker 1: up a championship. Yeah, but he could screw up.

796
00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:14,399
Speaker 4: He could screw up, and you never know, but it's

797
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:16,960
Speaker 4: it's possible yeah, that he's got If if he trades

798
00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:19,160
Speaker 4: for picks, then he's got that gig for another decade

799
00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:19,680
Speaker 4: for sure.

800
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:21,600
Speaker 2: And then Heat own a lot of their picks. I know,

801
00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:24,520
Speaker 2: the twenty five pick is uh, it's their own if

802
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:27,400
Speaker 2: it's like one to fourteen, but then it gets moved,

803
00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:30,319
Speaker 2: it's either okay, see by way the Clippers, you know,

804
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:32,319
Speaker 2: it gets a little dicey there, but they have their

805
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:34,120
Speaker 2: twenty three, twenty four, They've got their future ones in

806
00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:36,279
Speaker 2: twenty seven, twenty eight, twenty nine, stuff like that. The

807
00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:38,279
Speaker 2: thoughts on a Heat trying to get in there. You know,

808
00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:40,160
Speaker 2: pat Riley's always going to be like, hey, what there's

809
00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:41,080
Speaker 2: a star player available.

810
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:43,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, he would do that in a heartbeat.

811
00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:43,319
Speaker 2: Yeah.

812
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:45,680
Speaker 1: I mean they're giving up basically nothing. Lowry is at

813
00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:47,920
Speaker 1: the end of his career, even if he can get

814
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:50,799
Speaker 1: on track a little bit here. Duncan Robinson has been

815
00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:53,640
Speaker 1: a disappointment outside of the bubble, and I'm sure they

816
00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:56,719
Speaker 1: would be happy to get off his contract. Plus, i mean,

817
00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:59,319
Speaker 1: how valuable are Heat picks ever, Like they pick in

818
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:02,879
Speaker 1: the top ten like once every decade. What about hero throwing,

819
00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:05,440
Speaker 1: even a hero in Well, you would have to ask

820
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:07,560
Speaker 1: for here if this is a low.

821
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:09,840
Speaker 2: Ball offer to the Lakers. I agree with that.

822
00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:12,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I think yeah, the Lakers would think about it.

823
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:15,279
Speaker 4: I'm sorry the Heat would even think about it if

824
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:16,120
Speaker 4: they had to trade Hero.

825
00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:18,719
Speaker 2: Okay, one more. You keep saying how this is all

826
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:21,000
Speaker 2: about the picks for the Lakers. You know, this is

827
00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:23,160
Speaker 2: them saying, Okay, we're moving off a D. You know,

828
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:26,120
Speaker 2: Lebron in twilight of his career. We're almost like getting ready,

829
00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:28,040
Speaker 2: getting the war chest ready for whatever we're gonna do.

830
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:31,160
Speaker 2: But here's one that's not that, because here's one where

831
00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:34,520
Speaker 2: the Lakers are giving up a pick. Yes, we go.

832
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:39,560
Speaker 2: The Lakers receive Kevin Durant from the Brooklyn Nets for

833
00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:43,480
Speaker 2: a D and one of those future unprotected picks that

834
00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:45,399
Speaker 2: you know keep getting lumped in with Westbrook.

835
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:47,839
Speaker 4: Are going because I need to recalibrate my brain before

836
00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:48,239
Speaker 4: we go through.

837
00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:50,719
Speaker 2: Now, I got a basketball forever three team trade free

838
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:53,239
Speaker 2: in a second, this is just the Nets and Lakers. Hey,

839
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:55,680
Speaker 2: Katie said he already wanted to be traded. Let's get

840
00:38:55,760 --> 00:39:00,120
Speaker 2: him paired up with Lebron James the City of Angels.

841
00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:00,799
Speaker 1: So let's start.

842
00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:02,200
Speaker 2: This is where they get better. They get better.

843
00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:02,880
Speaker 1: Vin Durant.

844
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:07,359
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, that's it, Kevin Durant. Man with the whole time,

845
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:10,080
Speaker 4: Kevin ran for Anthony Davis basically, Wow.

846
00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:13,120
Speaker 1: I thought I thought there's other stuff. No simple as

847
00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:17,840
Speaker 1: that and one pick. Okay, well come on, okay, at

848
00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:23,359
Speaker 1: least they possible. Yeah, do it, do it. I don't

849
00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:25,239
Speaker 1: even care if the twenty tens are over. Man, I'll

850
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:27,919
Speaker 1: take Lebron and Kevin Durant. I'm trying to figure it out.

851
00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:31,839
Speaker 2: All right, Kevin Durant, is this ain't gonna be some

852
00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:34,960
Speaker 2: weird Barkley kim Olaija wanting You're.

853
00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:39,400
Speaker 1: I mean, is it already?

854
00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:43,360
Speaker 2: Okay you're Durant, Yes, so you're doing that.

855
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:45,359
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm doing it all right, Yeah, I'm doing it.

856
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:48,279
Speaker 2: What about from the nut side of things, guy wanted

857
00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:51,960
Speaker 2: to be traded get Anthony Davis is not bad. You're

858
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:53,600
Speaker 2: not gonna do much better in trading Kevin Duran. I

859
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:56,319
Speaker 2: don't think unless you believe that a son's deal in

860
00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:59,200
Speaker 2: the future of Eaton and whoever else they're gonna throw

861
00:39:59,200 --> 00:39:59,400
Speaker 2: in there.

862
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:01,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is the two picks.

863
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:03,319
Speaker 4: You gotta have the two picks in there, and then

864
00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:06,480
Speaker 4: the nets are starting to think, okay, this is what

865
00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:10,640
Speaker 4: happened to Lebron and the Cats when they emptied it

866
00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:13,920
Speaker 4: out and then just got real bad when Lebron left.

867
00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:17,400
Speaker 4: So those picks will be worthwhile because they're gonna be

868
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:21,160
Speaker 4: bad in a few years because Kevin is thirty four

869
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:24,279
Speaker 4: and so in twenty seven, twenty nine you could have

870
00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:24,919
Speaker 4: a great pick.

871
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:29,080
Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, let's get to the Basketball Forever three team trade.

872
00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:31,040
Speaker 2: I did see this going around and it made me

873
00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:34,400
Speaker 2: laugh because it's crazy and I love it. Okay, we

874
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:36,520
Speaker 2: got the graphic here for everybody on YouTube. I'm gonna

875
00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:38,320
Speaker 2: spell it out to all the podcast listeners. This is

876
00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:40,680
Speaker 2: a three team deal with the Lakers, the Warriors, and

877
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:43,880
Speaker 2: the Nets. The Lakers receive in the end, the Lakers

878
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:47,919
Speaker 2: come away with Kevin Durant, Ben Simmons, and Draymond Green.

879
00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:49,840
Speaker 1: What a haul.

880
00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:56,480
Speaker 2: The Warriors they get Anthony Davis and one first round

881
00:40:56,520 --> 00:40:59,520
Speaker 2: pick there by way of Brooklyn. And then the Nets

882
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:02,560
Speaker 2: get Russell Westbrook and a lot of the young guys

883
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:05,719
Speaker 2: James Wiseman, Jordan Poole and maybe the little puppy that

884
00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:08,800
Speaker 2: he brought in the other night, and see that Jonathan

885
00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:12,600
Speaker 2: Kaminga and then those two future future first round picks

886
00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:13,680
Speaker 2: by way of the Lakers.

887
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:16,840
Speaker 1: Hey, if Jordan Poole has to move from LA to

888
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:18,759
Speaker 1: Brooklyn or from Golden State to Brooklyn, I hope he

889
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:19,560
Speaker 1: takes a dog with him.

890
00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:23,719
Speaker 2: I hope I was that his dog or was it

891
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:27,400
Speaker 2: like a thing for like adopt dogs and he was

892
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:28,720
Speaker 2: like holding it little puppy.

893
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:31,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, or maybe it was from a stylist, even a

894
00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:32,680
Speaker 4: stylist dog.

895
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:34,480
Speaker 2: For an I mean, if it was a stylish dog,

896
00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:37,840
Speaker 2: then I called that. Yeah, you call in our preseason shows,

897
00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:40,200
Speaker 2: what's gonna be the biggest fashion trend this year? I said,

898
00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:44,640
Speaker 2: dogs guys showing up with dogs on the catwalk slash

899
00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:47,000
Speaker 2: dog Walk. So I don't think. I don't think it

900
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:48,880
Speaker 2: was his dog, though, I think it was a Warrior's

901
00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:50,320
Speaker 2: program for adopting dogs.

902
00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:52,880
Speaker 4: But I just had a flashback as I said that

903
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:55,080
Speaker 4: we had a photo shoot at NBA TV.

904
00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:55,919
Speaker 2: Of Julia dogs.

905
00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:57,880
Speaker 4: I had a dog in my and it was the

906
00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:01,600
Speaker 4: stylist dog. Maybe that's why I yeah, because there was

907
00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:04,040
Speaker 4: a reason, because I looked cool and I looked like

908
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:06,840
Speaker 4: I cared for dogs. I don't care for dogs.

909
00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:07,400
Speaker 1: No, I'm kidding.

910
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:11,200
Speaker 4: I love dogs, but I don't love you dog. After

911
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:12,399
Speaker 4: that what you just did.

912
00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:13,279
Speaker 2: Well, you don't like that.

913
00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:16,960
Speaker 4: Somebody's got to take your computer away.

914
00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:21,640
Speaker 1: Crazy Internet. I saw everything on the internet well forever

915
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:23,200
Speaker 1: last night. Yeah, shut them down?

916
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:26,120
Speaker 2: Wow that was wild? Eh what the Lakers?

917
00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:28,799
Speaker 1: Yeah? Good hell, good hell?

918
00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:31,640
Speaker 4: The okay and the Nets good haul, bad hole.

919
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:34,040
Speaker 1: I don't know. That's weird haul for the Nets.

920
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:34,759
Speaker 2: I do think.

921
00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:38,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, they get off the Ben Simmons contract, which is awesome,

922
00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:40,760
Speaker 1: but they're getting a new Simmons back in James Wiseman,

923
00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:43,680
Speaker 1: So I don't know about that. Also, I don't know.

924
00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:46,120
Speaker 1: That's just that's just too weird. The only thing that's

925
00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:48,600
Speaker 1: interesting about it to me is that the Lakers would

926
00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:50,360
Speaker 1: be getting Draymond Green, because I wonder if that's what

927
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:52,600
Speaker 1: they're waiting for. Yeah, I wonder if that is kind

928
00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:56,520
Speaker 1: of the thought like are they touching their fingers?

929
00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:58,920
Speaker 2: What do you call that? I call it the burns?

930
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:04,399
Speaker 1: But seeing the Warriors struggle here right, like did they

931
00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:07,279
Speaker 1: love seeing Draymond punch Jordan Pool in the face? And

932
00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:08,880
Speaker 1: then the Warriors come out and kind of stink it

933
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:11,840
Speaker 1: up to start the season, probably because they're thinking Draymond

934
00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:15,279
Speaker 1: would love the lights of La. The deal could work here.

935
00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:18,120
Speaker 1: The Warriors might be interested since they're actually able to

936
00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:20,200
Speaker 1: get somebody back who helps with the title chase. Here,

937
00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:23,359
Speaker 1: so something to be interested in. If stem the.

938
00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:26,600
Speaker 2: Lakers pulled off that Basketball Forever three team trade, you

939
00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:28,960
Speaker 2: can sign Polenka for the rest of his life, because

940
00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:31,919
Speaker 2: that's a hell of a return on a team that's

941
00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:35,279
Speaker 2: two and eight. They're getting Kevin duran Ben Simmons, and

942
00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:38,160
Speaker 2: Draymond Green to still pair with Lebron James. That's pretty

943
00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:38,600
Speaker 2: damn good.

944
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:43,960
Speaker 4: That was too much analyiso. Yeah, so the evil I

945
00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:48,120
Speaker 4: like the evil fingers that. That's definitely what the composer

946
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:50,720
Speaker 4: of that for fake.

947
00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:51,359
Speaker 1: Trade was doing.

948
00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:54,080
Speaker 4: Draymond Green to Los Angeles. People will eat this up.

949
00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:57,239
Speaker 4: People will look at that first graphic there, that first

950
00:43:57,239 --> 00:43:59,520
Speaker 4: part of it, see Draymond Green the Lakers' uniform, and

951
00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:01,879
Speaker 4: won't really care about the rest. I think that's what

952
00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:05,560
Speaker 4: that person was thinking over Kevin Durant. Well, it's just

953
00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:07,759
Speaker 4: like that part of it is all you got to

954
00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:08,880
Speaker 4: do to suck people in.

955
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:09,840
Speaker 1: We're talking.

956
00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:13,359
Speaker 2: You put a photoshop jersey on another guy. Yeah, it works,

957
00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:15,120
Speaker 2: especially you do it that well.

958
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:16,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, but that's real.

959
00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:19,239
Speaker 4: Rome did it for a no dunkscount with a young

960
00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:21,120
Speaker 4: Kevin Durant or in a Raptor's uniform.

961
00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:21,640
Speaker 1: I like that.

962
00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:25,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't have a Raptors Anthony Dave his trade

963
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:25,839
Speaker 2: for you. Unfortunately.

964
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:27,919
Speaker 1: That's fine. Yeah, that's totally fine.

965
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:29,920
Speaker 2: In fact, I gave you a way too many trades there.

966
00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:33,440
Speaker 2: Let's let's take a break, let's regroup, and when we

967
00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:36,279
Speaker 2: come back, some follow up questions to our Ama from

968
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:39,759
Speaker 2: Monday over at NBA Redit. Don't go anywhere all right

969
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:41,719
Speaker 2: back in the Classic Factory. If you're enjoying the show,

970
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:44,239
Speaker 2: hit the like button there, subscribe to No Dunks on

971
00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:46,200
Speaker 2: YouTube if you haven't done that as well. Before we

972
00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:48,640
Speaker 2: get to the follow up questions from our Ama from

973
00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:51,239
Speaker 2: earlier this week over at NBA Reddit, I did see

974
00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:53,040
Speaker 2: this thread this morning that I wanted to slip into

975
00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:55,160
Speaker 2: the show because I think it's a fun one. It's

976
00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:59,719
Speaker 2: from user the Nicks Hate Me, and they pointed out

977
00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:02,560
Speaker 2: that the the NBA started recording steals in the seventy

978
00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:05,480
Speaker 2: three seventy four season, the first player to lead the

979
00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:11,120
Speaker 2: league in steels was named Larry Steel fantastic, and then

980
00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:14,320
Speaker 2: the Knicks Hate Me went through some other like great

981
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:17,040
Speaker 2: basketball names and like gave some sort of like stat

982
00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:19,000
Speaker 2: update on their name. It'll make sense in a second.

983
00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:24,000
Speaker 2: John Block was a one time All Star. He played

984
00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:27,680
Speaker 2: three seasons after the block was officially accounted as a stat.

985
00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:32,120
Speaker 2: He averaged half a block that time. So yeah, didn't

986
00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:37,399
Speaker 2: live up to the name Bob Hooper. He averaged only

987
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:40,760
Speaker 2: five points per game in his one season with the Pacers.

988
00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:41,520
Speaker 1: What year is that?

989
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:43,120
Speaker 2: I don't have the year in front of me.

990
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:44,680
Speaker 1: Probably oldie.

991
00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:48,239
Speaker 4: You think that's an old time before we were called

992
00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:49,160
Speaker 4: Bob Hooper.

993
00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:51,919
Speaker 2: Yeah. And then it's like, so like five points per game,

994
00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:54,240
Speaker 2: You're like, is that okay? That's he's not really a hooper?

995
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:56,120
Speaker 2: And then again he's in the NBA, so of course

996
00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:58,960
Speaker 2: he's so he's a hooper. Yeah. Uh.

997
00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:01,640
Speaker 1: And then more here loves the hula.

998
00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:07,640
Speaker 2: This is a great threat. Spencer Dunkley was drafted by

999
00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:09,920
Speaker 2: the Pacers in ninety three. I don't remember this name

1000
00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:13,200
Speaker 2: at all, but you know, according to the stats, never

1001
00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:17,560
Speaker 2: dunked in an NBA game, So Dunkly never had a dunk.

1002
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:22,560
Speaker 2: Oh thank you to uh user the next there for

1003
00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:22,879
Speaker 2: that one.

1004
00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:25,719
Speaker 1: Still laugh. You got a guy named John Blog. That's

1005
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:27,480
Speaker 1: too good, too good.

1006
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:29,160
Speaker 2: Very good. All right, what do we got here some

1007
00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:29,600
Speaker 2: follow up?

1008
00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:29,839
Speaker 1: Yes?

1009
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:31,799
Speaker 4: And follow up that we didn't get to. Uh, we

1010
00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:34,000
Speaker 4: got a we got a bunch of them. First one,

1011
00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:37,040
Speaker 4: if you could time travel your pod to cover any

1012
00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:43,000
Speaker 4: NBA season, what would it be? That's from yep, Yes, no,

1013
00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:46,759
Speaker 4: any NBA season. Let's pot it out. We're here.

1014
00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:51,320
Speaker 2: I feel like we've done every NBA season so long.

1015
00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:54,680
Speaker 4: We've done a lot. This is season eighteen. But yeah,

1016
00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:58,640
Speaker 4: I I automatically thought prior to the five season where

1017
00:46:58,680 --> 00:46:59,879
Speaker 4: we started, I think I.

1018
00:46:59,880 --> 00:47:05,840
Speaker 2: Go immediately to the Bulls dynasty or some somewhere around there.

1019
00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:09,359
Speaker 2: So mid nineties, you know, you know what I guess

1020
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:12,600
Speaker 2: I go to probably ninety five ninety six Raptors come

1021
00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:17,920
Speaker 2: into existence. Obviously the Bulls winning seventy two games in

1022
00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:19,920
Speaker 2: that season. If I have that correct, Yeah, I have

1023
00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:23,160
Speaker 2: Raptors beatn Raptors game now. Yeah, So I'll go ninety

1024
00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:25,760
Speaker 2: five ninety six. I think I'll be an entertaining season

1025
00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:29,560
Speaker 2: to pot about some great especially Bulls alone going for

1026
00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:32,799
Speaker 2: seventy two is that's that'd be juicy? Right?

1027
00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:37,520
Speaker 1: Yes? Are you bowling it on ninety seven ninety eight season? Well,

1028
00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:39,319
Speaker 1: for me, the last dance season, I guess we kind

1029
00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:41,200
Speaker 1: of did it a little bit so later on during

1030
00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:43,560
Speaker 1: the pandemic, but you had their great Game seven against

1031
00:47:43,560 --> 00:47:46,040
Speaker 1: the Pacers. You got Jordan hitting the last shot of

1032
00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:49,400
Speaker 1: his career, a walkoff championship winner, never to be seen again.

1033
00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:51,960
Speaker 1: Also year two of the ninety six draft class, which

1034
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:54,040
Speaker 1: is one of the most famous draft classes out there.

1035
00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:57,480
Speaker 1: Tim Duncan's rookie season, First Team All NBA. You've got

1036
00:47:57,480 --> 00:48:00,680
Speaker 1: Grant Hill at his peak. Yeah, Penny hart Away at

1037
00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:03,120
Speaker 1: his peak. He got Dennis Rodman leaving the finals to

1038
00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:06,120
Speaker 1: go to WCW. Denver Nuggets had a twenty three game

1039
00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:09,839
Speaker 1: losing streak. They won. They lost seventy plus games that year.

1040
00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:11,520
Speaker 1: There would be so much stuff to talk about from

1041
00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:13,399
Speaker 1: the ninety seven ninety eight season. Not to mention there's

1042
00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:16,359
Speaker 1: like twenty five Hall of Famers that are active at

1043
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:17,399
Speaker 1: the time or something like that.

1044
00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:18,040
Speaker 2: Good one.

1045
00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:18,399
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1046
00:48:18,680 --> 00:48:21,520
Speaker 4: I also would jump in on the Bulls a little

1047
00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:25,080
Speaker 4: bit earlier though, because I'm getting greedy. We definitely pot

1048
00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:28,760
Speaker 4: in the offseason as well. So ninety one, ninety two, Magic,

1049
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:33,799
Speaker 4: the HIV situation retiring, coming back, then the Dream Team

1050
00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:36,399
Speaker 4: plus the Bulls, we got some good stuff in there,

1051
00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:39,759
Speaker 4: and yeah, a bunch of those Hall of famers, you know,

1052
00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:42,520
Speaker 4: as they as they were getting a little older, some

1053
00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:46,240
Speaker 4: of them, but still getting those guys in as well.

1054
00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:49,360
Speaker 2: For a lot of the storylines, obviously, the nineties makes sense.

1055
00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:52,160
Speaker 2: But then I do remember we watched so many games.

1056
00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:55,440
Speaker 2: That means we're watching a lot of like nineties basketball games,

1057
00:48:55,520 --> 00:49:00,360
Speaker 2: which was not the most entertaining games in the world, frank,

1058
00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:02,520
Speaker 2: So you know, there is that part. But yeah, I

1059
00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:05,920
Speaker 2: think we gotta go. You gotta go some some Jordan

1060
00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:07,560
Speaker 2: Bulls nineties stuff.

1061
00:49:07,719 --> 00:49:10,399
Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree, all right, keep it rolling here. Next

1062
00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:13,480
Speaker 4: one from our Ama. What was the single worst game

1063
00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:17,120
Speaker 4: of basketball you've ever had to sit through? And that's

1064
00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:24,400
Speaker 4: from Hurdle Nut. I believe Hurdle canut the single worst gametruggled,

1065
00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:29,319
Speaker 4: I answered pretty quickly because it's still still burnt into

1066
00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:32,080
Speaker 4: my brain watching the Suns get destroyed by.

1067
00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:35,480
Speaker 1: The one that is it.

1068
00:49:35,760 --> 00:49:37,120
Speaker 4: I know, we talked about it a lot over the

1069
00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:38,840
Speaker 4: last you know, four or five months since it happened.

1070
00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:43,440
Speaker 4: But that's unprecedented stuff. Game seven to finish a series,

1071
00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:46,239
Speaker 4: to lose by fifty points, you know, fifty ish points,

1072
00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:49,399
Speaker 4: that's it really is unprecedent. It just it was the

1073
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:52,759
Speaker 4: worst Game seven in the history of mankind. I don't

1074
00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:55,080
Speaker 4: care what sport that well, that was the worst. It

1075
00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:56,520
Speaker 4: was the worst we saw.

1076
00:49:56,600 --> 00:49:58,799
Speaker 2: It was over in a hurry too, like it was like,

1077
00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:01,719
Speaker 2: yeah it was. It was done like eight minutes in.

1078
00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:02,520
Speaker 2: You're like okay.

1079
00:50:02,719 --> 00:50:05,160
Speaker 4: It made me think of our man Mattio falling asleep

1080
00:50:05,160 --> 00:50:07,360
Speaker 4: while watching an NBA Finals game with his hand in

1081
00:50:07,400 --> 00:50:07,960
Speaker 4: his pocket.

1082
00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:09,759
Speaker 1: I think that was I think that was.

1083
00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:11,000
Speaker 2: That was a bad game that.

1084
00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:12,840
Speaker 1: I was.

1085
00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:15,799
Speaker 4: Game six of the eight Finals, right, was a Game six?

1086
00:50:16,040 --> 00:50:17,480
Speaker 1: That's that's a huge blow, do isn't it?

1087
00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:17,719
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1088
00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:18,320
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1089
00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:20,719
Speaker 4: Or or I think it was? Was it the game seven?

1090
00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:20,960
Speaker 1: Again?

1091
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:23,640
Speaker 2: Thought it was Game seven? Yeah, but I'm not.

1092
00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:26,879
Speaker 4: Twenty so it was twenty ten Game seven. It could

1093
00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:28,600
Speaker 4: have been. But that one wasn't a blow. It was

1094
00:50:28,640 --> 00:50:29,279
Speaker 4: an ugly game.

1095
00:50:29,320 --> 00:50:31,959
Speaker 1: It was. Yeah, it must have been blanks for twenty four.

1096
00:50:32,200 --> 00:50:34,919
Speaker 4: It was six for twenty four. It was meta hitt

1097
00:50:34,920 --> 00:50:38,719
Speaker 4: in the yeah, right right, right right. I wasn't I

1098
00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:40,920
Speaker 4: wasn't a fall asleep type game. Game six of the

1099
00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:43,960
Speaker 4: eight Finals kind of was a thirty nine point dub

1100
00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:44,640
Speaker 4: for the Celtics.

1101
00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:47,400
Speaker 1: That one, Yeah, that's kinda that's gotta be that's a

1102
00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:48,759
Speaker 1: good time to fall asleep.

1103
00:50:50,320 --> 00:50:53,240
Speaker 2: All asleep with your hand in a tight jean pocket.

1104
00:50:53,719 --> 00:50:56,279
Speaker 2: I think that's an important part to the story. It's

1105
00:50:56,320 --> 00:50:58,279
Speaker 2: like the little hand in you know, because you can

1106
00:50:58,280 --> 00:51:01,360
Speaker 2: barely put your hand in a tight jeans pocket, so

1107
00:51:01,600 --> 00:51:03,759
Speaker 2: you're lying down like there, you're creased up a bit.

1108
00:51:05,080 --> 00:51:08,719
Speaker 2: This wasn't the mid nineties when I was wearing giant jeans, right, No,

1109
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:10,920
Speaker 2: and you could easily like put your hands in.

1110
00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:12,759
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you can tell it that. You can do

1111
00:51:12,840 --> 00:51:15,440
Speaker 1: it like a hoodie, no problem.

1112
00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:16,920
Speaker 2: But it was just that little like a couple of

1113
00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:18,080
Speaker 2: fingers that had.

1114
00:51:18,360 --> 00:51:21,239
Speaker 1: Just a couple of figures. Yeah, he was Did we

1115
00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:23,600
Speaker 1: ever get a photo of that? We dropped a ball

1116
00:51:23,640 --> 00:51:25,160
Speaker 1: and that we were watching basketball?

1117
00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:27,560
Speaker 4: No time to take a par I think he was

1118
00:51:27,600 --> 00:51:29,440
Speaker 4: sort of on his side, and yeah, you know, when

1119
00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:30,759
Speaker 4: you're on your side, you kind of need to put

1120
00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:34,400
Speaker 4: your hands somewhere. Found his pocket and you're at a

1121
00:51:34,840 --> 00:51:35,759
Speaker 4: you're at a friend's house.

1122
00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:37,680
Speaker 2: You can't put your hand down your pants really like

1123
00:51:37,719 --> 00:51:39,520
Speaker 2: you shouldn't, you know, if he was at home, his

1124
00:51:39,560 --> 00:51:40,920
Speaker 2: hand would be down his pants.

1125
00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:42,959
Speaker 1: It was on his side, so it was kind of tough.

1126
00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:44,120
Speaker 1: I think that could be.

1127
00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:47,680
Speaker 4: That would be that would be Simmons on the floor

1128
00:51:47,680 --> 00:51:51,720
Speaker 4: the other day that would be some serious contortion. But yeah,

1129
00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:53,920
Speaker 4: I like, as we were getting into the nineties and

1130
00:51:53,960 --> 00:51:55,640
Speaker 4: the two thousands. You said it the other day that

1131
00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:58,719
Speaker 4: a professor's was a professor of some gen z was

1132
00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:02,960
Speaker 4: calling the twenty century like the late nineteen hundreds. Oh yeah, yeah,

1133
00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:05,839
Speaker 4: I talk about the nineteen nineties, the late nineteen I

1134
00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:06,239
Speaker 4: love that.

1135
00:52:07,719 --> 00:52:10,120
Speaker 1: Man. I went to a concert recently and they were checking,

1136
00:52:10,520 --> 00:52:12,439
Speaker 1: like Id's at the door, you know. I had him minded,

1137
00:52:12,440 --> 00:52:13,600
Speaker 1: the guy and he's like, I don't need to check.

1138
00:52:13,600 --> 00:52:15,440
Speaker 1: I can tell you were born in the nineteen hundreds.

1139
00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:19,000
Speaker 1: So that's what they say. Yeah, but it took me

1140
00:52:19,160 --> 00:52:22,879
Speaker 1: like days later to realize he met like the entire

1141
00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:25,160
Speaker 1: nineteen hundreds. Not that I looked like I was one

1142
00:52:25,239 --> 00:52:28,400
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty years old, but I was like, people

1143
00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:32,120
Speaker 1: do say, I look like the guy from Fayer's Witch Hazel. Unfortunately,

1144
00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:35,480
Speaker 1: maybe he, uh did?

1145
00:52:35,800 --> 00:52:38,240
Speaker 2: He had just seen you, like check your pocket watch

1146
00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:41,879
Speaker 2: to see what time the concert was starting something like that.

1147
00:52:42,080 --> 00:52:43,759
Speaker 1: I was wearing a bowler hat. Yeah.

1148
00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:46,120
Speaker 4: Maybe that was a first guy in Congress from the

1149
00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:48,279
Speaker 4: late nineteen hundreds elected yesterday.

1150
00:52:48,560 --> 00:52:49,720
Speaker 2: Right, that's pretty cool.

1151
00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:53,359
Speaker 4: Oh already next one here, shout up to Max.

1152
00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:55,839
Speaker 2: Oh, can I give you a This is big time

1153
00:52:55,920 --> 00:52:58,960
Speaker 2: recency bias to it. But a bad game was when

1154
00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:02,000
Speaker 2: we went down with our guy, winner of Survivor thirty

1155
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:04,440
Speaker 2: six and some of his buddies here in Atlanta to

1156
00:53:04,480 --> 00:53:07,200
Speaker 2: see the Hawks play the Hornets, and it was just

1157
00:53:07,239 --> 00:53:10,600
Speaker 2: a stinker of a game. It was brutal, but it

1158
00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:12,279
Speaker 2: was weird because it looked like the Hawks were gonna

1159
00:53:12,280 --> 00:53:13,880
Speaker 2: blow out the Hornets in the first six minutes of

1160
00:53:13,880 --> 00:53:14,960
Speaker 2: the game and we were gonna be like, oh, this

1161
00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:16,319
Speaker 2: will be a boring one, but at least the home

1162
00:53:16,320 --> 00:53:18,240
Speaker 2: team will win. And then it flipped in a hurry

1163
00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:20,400
Speaker 2: and then it was like for three quarters it was

1164
00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:23,759
Speaker 2: the Hornets just destroying the Hawks and Nick Richard's having

1165
00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:27,120
Speaker 2: his way, and I say, it was like, again, hilariously

1166
00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:30,520
Speaker 2: recency bias here. But you know, you know, when you

1167
00:53:30,640 --> 00:53:32,680
Speaker 2: like get with people you haven't seen in a while

1168
00:53:32,760 --> 00:53:34,359
Speaker 2: and you get the tickets, you're like, oh, it's gonna

1169
00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:36,160
Speaker 2: be a fun time out, and the game sort of

1170
00:53:36,239 --> 00:53:39,839
Speaker 2: is a dud. It's just like everybody's energy.

1171
00:53:40,040 --> 00:53:42,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's also tough because you're there with friends and

1172
00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:45,080
Speaker 1: you're like, you don't want to be the one to

1173
00:53:45,120 --> 00:53:46,200
Speaker 1: suggests leaving early.

1174
00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:49,279
Speaker 2: No, you're like everybody's thinking it out too long here,

1175
00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:52,200
Speaker 2: everybody's thinking, yeah, to just go which we what did

1176
00:53:52,200 --> 00:53:53,400
Speaker 2: we leave with three or four minutes left?

1177
00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:54,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, we could have left with six minutes.

1178
00:53:55,239 --> 00:53:56,920
Speaker 2: It was a brutal game for the Hawks.

1179
00:53:56,920 --> 00:53:58,560
Speaker 1: Out man, that was a nice ride home on Marda.

1180
00:53:58,640 --> 00:54:00,719
Speaker 1: We hopped right and we were there. It ain't like

1181
00:54:00,760 --> 00:54:01,880
Speaker 1: the battery.

1182
00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:03,279
Speaker 2: You can get out of there.

1183
00:54:03,880 --> 00:54:06,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, I gotta start making a new rule for myself

1184
00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:07,960
Speaker 4: because I used to stick to the end of a

1185
00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:09,920
Speaker 4: game every single time. But now I'm doing that.

1186
00:54:09,920 --> 00:54:13,239
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get out. What am I even going down

1187
00:54:13,239 --> 00:54:14,680
Speaker 1: there for? I'm just gonna leave the move.

1188
00:54:14,760 --> 00:54:17,600
Speaker 2: The move is the opposite not to like try and

1189
00:54:17,800 --> 00:54:21,279
Speaker 2: like see the game end as you should. If you've

1190
00:54:21,280 --> 00:54:24,280
Speaker 2: paid for a ticket and crazy comes back, comebacks happened.

1191
00:54:24,280 --> 00:54:26,239
Speaker 2: Look what happened with the Clippers and Calves the other night.

1192
00:54:26,280 --> 00:54:28,439
Speaker 2: Like in today's NBA. You can erase a ten point

1193
00:54:28,520 --> 00:54:31,520
Speaker 2: lead like that, but you just stick around. You got

1194
00:54:31,560 --> 00:54:33,640
Speaker 2: to like bake in, let's go have a beer after

1195
00:54:33,680 --> 00:54:37,080
Speaker 2: the game. Let the let the traffic, you know, clear

1196
00:54:37,120 --> 00:54:39,000
Speaker 2: out and then go. I know it's a bit of

1197
00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:40,200
Speaker 2: a time commitment.

1198
00:54:39,960 --> 00:54:42,319
Speaker 1: Stay late totally, that's the move.

1199
00:54:42,360 --> 00:54:43,719
Speaker 2: Now you've got a bit of a longer drive than

1200
00:54:43,719 --> 00:54:45,399
Speaker 2: some of us, but like that's the that's the way.

1201
00:54:45,480 --> 00:54:49,359
Speaker 4: That far mine is not that far because I want

1202
00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:52,600
Speaker 4: to beat the traffic. But why listen, we have jobs.

1203
00:54:52,920 --> 00:54:57,480
Speaker 4: You wanted to get home and get game. You also

1204
00:54:57,560 --> 00:55:00,120
Speaker 4: included the quick line in there that you said, if

1205
00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:01,719
Speaker 4: you paid for a ticket, you should say to the end,

1206
00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:02,560
Speaker 4: what if you get it for free?

1207
00:55:02,600 --> 00:55:04,319
Speaker 1: Does that factor in? I can leave.

1208
00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:06,520
Speaker 2: I mean, that's when you really should be staying till

1209
00:55:06,520 --> 00:55:08,680
Speaker 2: the end as a thank you to the organization.

1210
00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:12,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's interesting.

1211
00:55:12,600 --> 00:55:16,239
Speaker 4: I absolutely did the exact opposite, very disrespectful to my

1212
00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:19,239
Speaker 4: complimentary ticket giver. I left at the end of the

1213
00:55:19,239 --> 00:55:21,960
Speaker 4: third quarter of a Falcons game, but then I cut

1214
00:55:21,960 --> 00:55:22,600
Speaker 4: the rest at home.

1215
00:55:22,640 --> 00:55:24,960
Speaker 1: So sorry, but yeah, left.

1216
00:55:24,840 --> 00:55:27,719
Speaker 4: Free ticket for the Falcons gone at the end of

1217
00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:30,239
Speaker 4: the third quarter, walked on to Marda cruising.

1218
00:55:32,080 --> 00:55:35,960
Speaker 1: So many seats for me. Every major sporting event here

1219
00:55:35,960 --> 00:55:38,840
Speaker 1: in Atlanta, we're talking about going to the Hawks, the Braves,

1220
00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:42,600
Speaker 1: and the Falcons. MLS. How they're looking right, it's done,

1221
00:55:42,600 --> 00:55:42,960
Speaker 1: it's done.

1222
00:55:44,360 --> 00:55:46,760
Speaker 2: I go to a handful of those. Yeah, that's right there,

1223
00:55:46,880 --> 00:55:49,320
Speaker 2: but they did not have a good year. No, okay,

1224
00:55:49,520 --> 00:55:50,080
Speaker 2: next one.

1225
00:55:50,400 --> 00:55:51,000
Speaker 1: Who beat them?

1226
00:55:51,160 --> 00:55:59,480
Speaker 4: Who beat Philadelphia? Philadelphia win? No l A one Philadelphia. Yeah, anyway, cool, Okay,

1227
00:55:59,520 --> 00:56:02,400
Speaker 4: I'm more of a basketball question here. Do you guys

1228
00:56:02,440 --> 00:56:05,560
Speaker 4: think that the Timberwolves should start to worry? That's from

1229
00:56:05,640 --> 00:56:08,520
Speaker 4: Wavy Dude eight oh eight. I know when he wrote

1230
00:56:08,560 --> 00:56:13,200
Speaker 4: this on Monday, or coming off a win for the

1231
00:56:13,239 --> 00:56:16,600
Speaker 4: Wolves where it didn't seem as bad, right that that

1232
00:56:16,719 --> 00:56:19,160
Speaker 4: night was the terrible loss to the New York Knicks.

1233
00:56:19,640 --> 00:56:21,440
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you're right, right right.

1234
00:56:21,440 --> 00:56:23,879
Speaker 4: So I know Trey and I commented to Wavy Dude

1235
00:56:23,920 --> 00:56:26,439
Speaker 4: eight oh eight, I may be getting the games wrong,

1236
00:56:26,480 --> 00:56:29,040
Speaker 4: but they had it was five. They're five and five,

1237
00:56:29,080 --> 00:56:33,560
Speaker 4: and things were seemingly not horrible, and both of Trey

1238
00:56:33,560 --> 00:56:37,120
Speaker 4: and I said, it's a little too early to go nuts.

1239
00:56:38,120 --> 00:56:40,399
Speaker 4: But yeah, they were five and five at the time. Trey,

1240
00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:44,080
Speaker 4: you thought at that point maybe not the panic button.

1241
00:56:44,080 --> 00:56:45,400
Speaker 4: But then they lost to the Knicks.

1242
00:56:46,520 --> 00:56:49,520
Speaker 1: They got embarrassed by the Knicks, and even John Krasinski

1243
00:56:49,600 --> 00:56:51,880
Speaker 1: at the Athletic Subscribe at the Athletic dot com slash

1244
00:56:51,920 --> 00:56:54,439
Speaker 1: no dunks was like, we got to sound the alarm here.

1245
00:56:54,480 --> 00:56:54,680
Speaker 2: It was.

1246
00:56:54,800 --> 00:56:56,200
Speaker 1: I think it was the same night that you ended

1247
00:56:56,280 --> 00:56:58,839
Speaker 1: up posting the Mike and Norri clip right. We had

1248
00:56:58,880 --> 00:57:02,960
Speaker 1: the kind of postgame press conference where basically everybody from

1249
00:57:03,000 --> 00:57:05,239
Speaker 1: coaches to players agree that they're not playing hard enough,

1250
00:57:05,280 --> 00:57:07,719
Speaker 1: playing too soft, and have no energy out there. Chris

1251
00:57:07,760 --> 00:57:10,120
Speaker 1: Finch said, we need somebody who's gonna be a bit

1252
00:57:10,160 --> 00:57:13,000
Speaker 1: of a tone setter, kind of referencing the fact that

1253
00:57:13,040 --> 00:57:16,080
Speaker 1: they're missing Patrick Beverley this year. They're missing him from

1254
00:57:16,160 --> 00:57:19,760
Speaker 1: an emotional standpoint more than anything. I think nas Reid

1255
00:57:19,880 --> 00:57:23,720
Speaker 1: is maybe like their hardest player out there and maybe

1256
00:57:23,760 --> 00:57:26,440
Speaker 1: the guy who could be the tone center, which is

1257
00:57:26,520 --> 00:57:30,240
Speaker 1: tough because they do have to all NBA centers ahead

1258
00:57:30,280 --> 00:57:31,920
Speaker 1: of him on the depth chart. So what are you

1259
00:57:31,920 --> 00:57:34,560
Speaker 1: gonna do, bench, You're all NBA centers for your third

1260
00:57:34,600 --> 00:57:36,680
Speaker 1: string center. That's a tough call for Chris Finch to make.

1261
00:57:36,760 --> 00:57:39,680
Speaker 1: But the Wolves look pretty good when nas red is

1262
00:57:39,720 --> 00:57:42,240
Speaker 1: on the floor. The bench just seems to have a

1263
00:57:42,240 --> 00:57:44,880
Speaker 1: little bit more chemistry, a little bit more continuity, and

1264
00:57:44,880 --> 00:57:47,440
Speaker 1: a little bit more oomph to him. So whenever they

1265
00:57:47,440 --> 00:57:50,160
Speaker 1: flip the switch to playing hard enough, the Timberwolves will

1266
00:57:50,160 --> 00:57:53,080
Speaker 1: turn it around. But they gotta find somebody who's gonna

1267
00:57:53,080 --> 00:57:54,080
Speaker 1: get him fired up to play hard.

1268
00:57:54,120 --> 00:57:58,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, it can't be nos Red. He's a backup player.

1269
00:57:58,280 --> 00:57:59,480
Speaker 1: I agree. I agree.

1270
00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:02,640
Speaker 4: Destroys it against backup guys. He is their emotional sort

1271
00:58:02,640 --> 00:58:05,800
Speaker 4: of center. You're right, but he's not going to be

1272
00:58:05,800 --> 00:58:07,960
Speaker 4: playing over Rudy and Cat when it comes down to it.

1273
00:58:08,040 --> 00:58:12,000
Speaker 4: And it's the perimeter. Yeah, and the chemistry that grew

1274
00:58:12,080 --> 00:58:15,640
Speaker 4: over the course of last season. So maybe if you

1275
00:58:15,680 --> 00:58:17,479
Speaker 4: want to be positive about it, that's what's going to happen.

1276
00:58:17,480 --> 00:58:18,480
Speaker 1: But they're just not playing hard enough.

1277
00:58:18,480 --> 00:58:22,240
Speaker 4: As you said, it's less about fit piece, it's more about, hey,

1278
00:58:22,320 --> 00:58:24,320
Speaker 4: let's uh, you know, get in front of a guy

1279
00:58:25,560 --> 00:58:27,880
Speaker 4: a little bit more often and get back on defense.

1280
00:58:27,920 --> 00:58:30,680
Speaker 4: Because the embarrassment of that first and second quarter against

1281
00:58:30,680 --> 00:58:34,080
Speaker 4: the Knicks, it didn't it wasn't it wasn't something they corrected.

1282
00:58:34,160 --> 00:58:36,240
Speaker 4: That was the scary part. It was just open shot

1283
00:58:36,240 --> 00:58:40,240
Speaker 4: after open shot and Julius Randall going bonkers. They were

1284
00:58:40,320 --> 00:58:44,000
Speaker 4: jumping around in the Timberwolves arena and Target arena, Target

1285
00:58:44,040 --> 00:58:50,160
Speaker 4: Center like it was like they were really feeling themselves

1286
00:58:50,240 --> 00:58:52,680
Speaker 4: and nothing was done about it in that game.

1287
00:58:53,360 --> 00:58:56,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, we talked about it on the podcast. Was that yesterday? Yeah,

1288
00:58:56,240 --> 00:58:58,360
Speaker 2: it was yesterday after the loss, like you said, and

1289
00:58:58,480 --> 00:59:00,680
Speaker 2: the vibes being bad and like the leader of that

1290
00:59:00,760 --> 00:59:04,160
Speaker 2: team and can cat really truly you know, galvanize a

1291
00:59:04,200 --> 00:59:06,800
Speaker 2: locker room and like you know, he puts up the numbers,

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Speaker 2: but is it ever gonna work as him as sort

1293
00:59:09,480 --> 00:59:11,240
Speaker 2: of like your lead dog. Does he have the dog

1294
00:59:11,280 --> 00:59:14,920
Speaker 2: in him? You know? And then I was like jokingly

1295
00:59:14,960 --> 00:59:17,720
Speaker 2: throwing around, I'm hearing buzz about him being moved, which

1296
00:59:17,720 --> 00:59:19,360
Speaker 2: I don't even think he can be moved if at

1297
00:59:19,440 --> 00:59:21,160
Speaker 2: least for years. I'm like that with his contract, but

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00:59:21,760 --> 00:59:26,240
Speaker 2: h can you train Anthony Davis for going? Technically can

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00:59:26,400 --> 00:59:28,760
Speaker 2: right now again because the towns can't be moved. But yeah,

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00:59:28,800 --> 00:59:31,320
Speaker 2: it's not a great it's not a great start, and

1301
00:59:31,360 --> 00:59:35,800
Speaker 2: it's it's still so early though, yea, and their record

1302
00:59:35,880 --> 00:59:39,720
Speaker 2: is at least at least they won basically their teams. Yeah,

1303
00:59:39,800 --> 00:59:42,400
Speaker 2: maybe we're just like freaking out, but if you watch them,

1304
00:59:42,440 --> 00:59:46,160
Speaker 2: you know there's something missing or wrong or off, and

1305
00:59:46,240 --> 00:59:49,400
Speaker 2: like when do you make the decision to try and

1306
00:59:49,200 --> 00:59:51,040
Speaker 2: and and mix it up? And maybe that's like bringing

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00:59:51,120 --> 00:59:53,680
Speaker 2: in a crowder like guy or something like just bringing

1308
00:59:53,720 --> 00:59:55,920
Speaker 2: in like these spark plug guys like you had in

1309
00:59:56,000 --> 00:59:58,600
Speaker 2: Beverly and does that get the team going in the

1310
00:59:58,680 --> 01:00:01,560
Speaker 2: right direction. We'll see. Don't do something here if they

1311
01:00:01,600 --> 01:00:04,200
Speaker 2: continue to play five hundred because you traded away your

1312
01:00:04,200 --> 01:00:06,800
Speaker 2: future for to be better than mediocre. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Next one is directed at JD.

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01:00:11,640 --> 01:00:11,920
Speaker 1: JD.

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Speaker 4: Who are your top five filmmakers of all time?

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01:00:15,720 --> 01:00:16,040
Speaker 1: Wow?

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01:00:16,160 --> 01:00:20,680
Speaker 4: Saint Christian going big? Top five filmmakers?

1318
01:00:20,760 --> 01:00:21,000
Speaker 2: JD.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not answering that. Wow. I mean listen, I

1320
01:00:26,320 --> 01:00:28,760
Speaker 3: was like, okay, let me try to parse this out.

1321
01:00:28,440 --> 01:00:31,520
Speaker 3: I'm known as a curmudgeon, a com dragon, if you will.

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01:00:32,000 --> 01:00:32,520
Speaker 4: I don't.

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01:00:33,960 --> 01:00:39,360
Speaker 3: Say yeah. Everybody says I don't like anything, but I'm

1324
01:00:39,360 --> 01:00:42,520
Speaker 3: like going through like my favorite filmmakers, and it's just

1325
01:00:42,720 --> 01:00:46,200
Speaker 3: it's such a pedestrian list as well. Well, I'm not

1326
01:00:46,200 --> 01:00:48,320
Speaker 3: gonna I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna do what I do.

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01:00:48,400 --> 01:00:50,200
Speaker 3: When people are like, what's who's your favorite band, I'm like,

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01:00:50,240 --> 01:00:51,880
Speaker 3: I don't really have a favorite band. I've got a

1329
01:00:51,880 --> 01:00:55,800
Speaker 3: favorite albums, right, So then I started listening, you know, okay,

1330
01:00:55,840 --> 01:00:59,960
Speaker 3: well what are some perfect movies? Right? Okay? Also very Pedestrian.

1331
01:01:00,200 --> 01:01:03,480
Speaker 3: It's like, you know, Eternal Sunshine and the Spotlet, spots Man,

1332
01:01:03,560 --> 01:01:07,800
Speaker 3: that's not everybody's list, Raiders, Good Fellas, Black Clansmen, Get Out,

1333
01:01:07,880 --> 01:01:10,000
Speaker 3: Oh that. You know, we've heard all those. So I'm

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01:01:10,000 --> 01:01:15,160
Speaker 3: gonna give you five or seven sort of perfect movies

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01:01:15,160 --> 01:01:18,400
Speaker 3: that I love. I love these movies, but I never

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Speaker 3: hear people talking about them. Okay, First one, Bad Santa.

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01:01:23,800 --> 01:01:29,120
Speaker 3: It's good exactly. Nobody talks about how good Bad Santa is.

1338
01:01:29,640 --> 01:01:33,440
Speaker 3: It's like, what it's up there, Top three holiday movies

1339
01:01:33,480 --> 01:01:35,840
Speaker 3: of all time? I watch it every year and I

1340
01:01:36,000 --> 01:01:40,200
Speaker 3: love it. It's hilarious. You got Bernie Mac, John Ritter,

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01:01:40,840 --> 01:01:43,440
Speaker 3: rest in peace to both of you. And one of

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01:01:43,480 --> 01:01:46,960
Speaker 3: the funniest scenes ever committed to film, and that's Bernie

1343
01:01:46,960 --> 01:01:49,080
Speaker 3: Mac is eating an orange and it's great and it's

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01:01:49,080 --> 01:01:52,200
Speaker 3: about ale sex and it's awesome. Okay, So Bad Santa

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01:01:52,240 --> 01:01:59,040
Speaker 3: directed by terry's Wigoff. Second one, School of Rock directed

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Speaker 3: by Richard Later. It's a perfect movie. It's absolutely perfect.

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01:02:03,920 --> 01:02:06,600
Speaker 3: And link Later is a great filmmaker, so he would

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01:02:06,600 --> 01:02:08,960
Speaker 3: be up there as a you know, top like the

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01:02:09,000 --> 01:02:16,440
Speaker 3: Before Trilogy, dayson Confused. I mean he's awesome. Boyhood amazing filmmaker.

1350
01:02:16,640 --> 01:02:16,960
Speaker 2: All right.

1351
01:02:17,000 --> 01:02:19,520
Speaker 3: Next one, this is one of I just rewatched this

1352
01:02:19,640 --> 01:02:23,280
Speaker 3: movie and it is incredible and I never hear anyone

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01:02:23,280 --> 01:02:25,160
Speaker 3: talk about It's called It's Dirty Pretty Things. Have you

1354
01:02:25,160 --> 01:02:25,640
Speaker 3: guys seen this?

1355
01:02:25,960 --> 01:02:27,800
Speaker 2: Oh no, I haven't.

1356
01:02:27,800 --> 01:02:30,400
Speaker 3: Directed, but I haven't watched it. You should have watched

1357
01:02:30,400 --> 01:02:33,120
Speaker 3: it last night when there was no basketball. It's amazing.

1358
01:02:33,880 --> 01:02:37,400
Speaker 3: Stephen Frere is incredible. It's a it's a goddamn masterpiece.

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Speaker 3: Dirty Pretty Things, all right. The next one, I don't.

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01:02:41,160 --> 01:02:42,840
Speaker 3: I never hear people talk about this. It's a great

1361
01:02:42,880 --> 01:02:47,680
Speaker 3: sci fi movie, Children of Men, awesome movie, amazing movie, right,

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01:02:48,000 --> 01:02:48,920
Speaker 3: Alfonso Kuran.

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Speaker 2: It's a good list right now?

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01:02:50,320 --> 01:02:52,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you, Okay, thanks.

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01:02:53,400 --> 01:02:56,000
Speaker 3: Here's another one that I think is amazing, and it

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01:02:56,080 --> 01:02:58,000
Speaker 3: came out of nowhere for me. I thought i'd hate it,

1367
01:02:58,080 --> 01:03:01,919
Speaker 3: and I loved it. Scott Pilgrims, The World, Oh Becker, Right,

1368
01:03:02,520 --> 01:03:07,520
Speaker 3: amazing movie. It's goddamn perfect. Takes place in Toronto. I mean,

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01:03:08,600 --> 01:03:11,120
Speaker 3: I love it, and I didn't know anything about it,

1370
01:03:11,160 --> 01:03:13,400
Speaker 3: went and completely blind and all of a sudden, the

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01:03:13,440 --> 01:03:16,960
Speaker 3: video games stuff starts and I was blown away, absolutely

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01:03:16,960 --> 01:03:17,480
Speaker 3: blown away.

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01:03:17,600 --> 01:03:19,720
Speaker 1: When he goes to p and it's got the p bar.

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01:03:20,360 --> 01:03:23,400
Speaker 1: I was like, this movie is good. They got a

1375
01:03:23,400 --> 01:03:23,760
Speaker 1: p bar.

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01:03:23,960 --> 01:03:26,960
Speaker 2: I also went into that movie knowing nothing about it.

1377
01:03:27,000 --> 01:03:30,560
Speaker 2: And then yeah, I think you're like pleasantly surprised. Maybe

1378
01:03:30,560 --> 01:03:31,200
Speaker 2: what I expected.

1379
01:03:31,240 --> 01:03:34,680
Speaker 3: It's not pleasantly surprised, fucking blown away by that movie.

1380
01:03:34,760 --> 01:03:35,600
Speaker 3: I loved it.

1381
01:03:35,840 --> 01:03:36,560
Speaker 2: Have you watched it?

1382
01:03:36,600 --> 01:03:41,040
Speaker 3: Since I've seen it probably ten times my kids were born,

1383
01:03:41,120 --> 01:03:41,720
Speaker 3: and they love it.

1384
01:03:41,720 --> 01:03:42,120
Speaker 2: They love that.

1385
01:03:42,280 --> 01:03:43,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's great.

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01:03:44,480 --> 01:03:44,600
Speaker 1: Uh.

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01:03:45,120 --> 01:03:47,960
Speaker 3: Okay, so that's five. Here, here are two more of it.

1388
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Speaker 3: This is in no particular order, so I'm not even

1389
01:03:49,840 --> 01:03:54,080
Speaker 3: gonna call them honorable mentions. Now this surprises me because

1390
01:03:54,160 --> 01:03:57,000
Speaker 3: people I say this, there's a TV show of this,

1391
01:03:57,240 --> 01:03:59,960
Speaker 3: but the original movie What We Do in the Shadow,

1392
01:04:00,520 --> 01:04:04,720
Speaker 3: nobody has seen. And it's a goddamn crime. It's one

1393
01:04:04,760 --> 01:04:06,120
Speaker 3: of the best comedies ever made.

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01:04:06,040 --> 01:04:08,080
Speaker 2: Ye, I've seen the movie. I haven't seen a lot

1395
01:04:08,120 --> 01:04:08,520
Speaker 2: of the show.

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01:04:08,720 --> 01:04:09,640
Speaker 3: This show is excellent.

1397
01:04:09,760 --> 01:04:11,480
Speaker 2: I will say it is hilarious.

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01:04:11,600 --> 01:04:15,160
Speaker 3: It's it is also a masterpiece. It's a perfect film.

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01:04:15,400 --> 01:04:17,320
Speaker 1: You're told me. We got two Flight of the Concords

1400
01:04:17,320 --> 01:04:17,600
Speaker 1: in here.

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01:04:18,280 --> 01:04:21,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, and directed by Clement and with t Co directed.

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01:04:21,520 --> 01:04:28,320
Speaker 2: It's uh And Murray Murray is incredible and he steals

1403
01:04:28,320 --> 01:04:31,040
Speaker 2: every CD in all the time. But God is so good. Yeah.

1404
01:04:31,080 --> 01:04:32,360
Speaker 1: Oh, this is a Jamaine joint.

1405
01:04:32,400 --> 01:04:34,720
Speaker 3: This is oh yeah, okay, yeah, yeah, you haven't seen it.

1406
01:04:34,800 --> 01:04:36,120
Speaker 1: Try this is what I'm talking about.

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01:04:36,120 --> 01:04:39,120
Speaker 3: This is I can't believe you come to this fact

1408
01:04:39,120 --> 01:04:41,360
Speaker 3: class fact every day and you haven't seen it.

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01:04:41,720 --> 01:04:43,680
Speaker 1: This is your house. Yeah, you're the one who's not

1410
01:04:43,720 --> 01:04:47,480
Speaker 1: talking about it in me to watch it until now,

1411
01:04:47,560 --> 01:04:48,320
Speaker 1: So I will.

1412
01:04:48,240 --> 01:04:52,400
Speaker 3: You guys do all the talking. Final line and yeah,

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01:04:52,400 --> 01:04:54,560
Speaker 3: I've mentioned it before, but the devilwar Is Proud is

1414
01:04:54,600 --> 01:04:57,480
Speaker 3: a perfect I'll just leave it. Okay.

1415
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:03,439
Speaker 2: We got Bad Santa, School of Rock, Dirty Pretty Things,

1416
01:05:03,480 --> 01:05:05,080
Speaker 2: the only one on this list I haven't seen. So

1417
01:05:05,160 --> 01:05:07,800
Speaker 2: excited to dig into that. Children of Men, Scott Pilgrim

1418
01:05:07,840 --> 01:05:09,400
Speaker 2: versus the World, what we do in the Shadows, and

1419
01:05:09,560 --> 01:05:10,560
Speaker 2: the Devilwaar's product.

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01:05:11,080 --> 01:05:11,680
Speaker 1: What a list.

1421
01:05:12,400 --> 01:05:13,760
Speaker 2: You will not taste on this guy.

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01:05:13,760 --> 01:05:17,040
Speaker 4: That's great, all right, well done, all right, Jadi, We're

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01:05:17,040 --> 01:05:18,439
Speaker 4: gonna well, let's skip the next one.

1424
01:05:19,040 --> 01:05:25,800
Speaker 1: Let's get to uh ski Just since it popped up

1425
01:05:25,840 --> 01:05:28,040
Speaker 1: on the screen, should we bring back the pun gun

1426
01:05:28,080 --> 01:05:32,440
Speaker 1: as a YouTube short as a YouTube shorts.

1427
01:05:31,240 --> 01:05:31,840
Speaker 2: A YouTube short?

1428
01:05:31,920 --> 01:05:34,600
Speaker 1: Yes, okay, moving on Okay, good one.

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01:05:35,040 --> 01:05:37,160
Speaker 4: Okay, just a couple left before we get to break

1430
01:05:37,200 --> 01:05:40,560
Speaker 4: here winter we getting the anime film session. I need

1431
01:05:40,600 --> 01:05:46,120
Speaker 4: Trey's thoughts on Attack on Titan via Beats by Canna.

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01:05:46,680 --> 01:05:49,840
Speaker 1: People went crazy for the Attack on Titan little short

1433
01:05:49,840 --> 01:05:53,160
Speaker 1: that Drome made for us. I am completely ignorant to

1434
01:05:53,200 --> 01:05:56,040
Speaker 1: what this thing is, but I was deep in the

1435
01:05:56,080 --> 01:05:58,240
Speaker 1: Wikipedia and it said in twenty twenty one, during the

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01:05:58,280 --> 01:06:00,800
Speaker 1: first part of the final season, Attack on Titan was

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01:06:00,840 --> 01:06:06,400
Speaker 1: the most viewed television program in the United States. That's crazy. Yeah,

1438
01:06:06,400 --> 01:06:08,640
Speaker 1: and all of this stuff with like the Titan coming

1439
01:06:08,680 --> 01:06:13,200
Speaker 1: on and apparently they're attacking on him. I guess this

1440
01:06:13,320 --> 01:06:16,200
Speaker 1: comes from the very first episode of the first season.

1441
01:06:16,560 --> 01:06:18,720
Speaker 1: Uh huh. That to me is something we could watch

1442
01:06:18,760 --> 01:06:20,840
Speaker 1: and do like a little reaction to. I was watching

1443
01:06:20,840 --> 01:06:24,040
Speaker 1: a great one of some guys watching a Black Betty

1444
01:06:24,080 --> 01:06:26,480
Speaker 1: by Ram Jam you know that kind of style of Oh,

1445
01:06:26,520 --> 01:06:29,120
Speaker 1: look these people haven't seen this. Yeah, yeah, so they're

1446
01:06:29,160 --> 01:06:33,320
Speaker 1: watching Attack on Titan. Maybe it's interesting. I don't know.

1447
01:06:33,360 --> 01:06:36,400
Speaker 1: People there was a huge response though to the Attack

1448
01:06:36,440 --> 01:06:38,800
Speaker 1: on Titan stuff, and I feel like we should probably

1449
01:06:38,800 --> 01:06:40,440
Speaker 1: be a little bit cognizant of what that is.

1450
01:06:40,560 --> 01:06:43,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I've seen it. I've seen I've seen

1451
01:06:43,560 --> 01:06:47,720
Speaker 3: like three or four episodes. It's good, but it it's weird.

1452
01:06:47,840 --> 01:06:50,760
Speaker 1: Is it scary? It seems like you wouldn't.

1453
01:06:50,400 --> 01:06:52,480
Speaker 3: Want to watch it with your girls. Okay, yeah, it's

1454
01:06:52,880 --> 01:06:56,760
Speaker 3: it's scary. It's it's an anime. Yeah, so it's graphic.

1455
01:06:57,360 --> 01:07:00,320
Speaker 2: And I like every once in a while, like anime

1456
01:07:00,560 --> 01:07:02,720
Speaker 2: or even like comic books, I like have like this,

1457
01:07:02,960 --> 01:07:05,400
Speaker 2: like all right, I'm gonna try and get into this,

1458
01:07:05,520 --> 01:07:08,120
Speaker 2: and it's daunting. It's like, where do I start. I

1459
01:07:08,120 --> 01:07:09,960
Speaker 2: remember Network had a great podcast I think it was

1460
01:07:10,040 --> 01:07:11,960
Speaker 2: with comic books like ones you should maybe start with,

1461
01:07:12,280 --> 01:07:14,280
Speaker 2: and even that, it's like, oh my god, I don't.

1462
01:07:14,320 --> 01:07:16,160
Speaker 2: I don't know, and it's a hell of a commitment

1463
01:07:16,200 --> 01:07:17,920
Speaker 2: and obviously you just don't know which ones to go

1464
01:07:18,000 --> 01:07:19,880
Speaker 2: with first. But that's where that's how I sort of

1465
01:07:19,880 --> 01:07:22,360
Speaker 2: feel about anime. I'm not against it at all. I'm

1466
01:07:22,360 --> 01:07:23,840
Speaker 2: just like, I don't know where to start, where I

1467
01:07:23,880 --> 01:07:27,120
Speaker 2: should go, And I think once you start, you're probably

1468
01:07:27,120 --> 01:07:29,440
Speaker 2: gonna be absolutely hooked. And then I wonder half the

1469
01:07:29,480 --> 01:07:31,919
Speaker 2: time I'm on the internet.

1470
01:07:32,280 --> 01:07:34,280
Speaker 4: On the internet, Yeah, you start thinking about it and

1471
01:07:34,280 --> 01:07:36,520
Speaker 4: it gets a little done it does, and you don't

1472
01:07:36,520 --> 01:07:39,600
Speaker 4: know where to start for sure, but it's extremely popular,

1473
01:07:39,680 --> 01:07:41,920
Speaker 4: so you want to get in, I know. But then

1474
01:07:41,960 --> 01:07:43,960
Speaker 4: you're like, I'll just watch School of Rock again.

1475
01:07:45,240 --> 01:07:47,479
Speaker 2: Be happy season soon.

1476
01:07:47,600 --> 01:07:50,600
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, that's a tough one.

1477
01:07:50,640 --> 01:07:53,560
Speaker 4: But billions and billions the most and the most watched

1478
01:07:53,600 --> 01:07:55,920
Speaker 4: program in the United States in twenty twenty one. That

1479
01:07:56,080 --> 01:08:01,200
Speaker 4: is that's that's It's also not surprised though, when when

1480
01:08:01,240 --> 01:08:05,560
Speaker 4: I was interneting attack on Titan after Drome that for

1481
01:08:05,640 --> 01:08:09,000
Speaker 4: us just seeing the the amount of hashtags just just

1482
01:08:10,360 --> 01:08:13,040
Speaker 4: this is a real technical but like five point six

1483
01:08:13,240 --> 01:08:18,920
Speaker 4: billion people had hashtag attack on Titan on TikTok. Wow,

1484
01:08:19,800 --> 01:08:22,840
Speaker 4: So what up with that? I guess people watch it

1485
01:08:22,880 --> 01:08:23,200
Speaker 4: all right?

1486
01:08:23,360 --> 01:08:25,760
Speaker 2: Why don't we just hashtag everything we put up attack on?

1487
01:08:27,120 --> 01:08:29,080
Speaker 1: Hey, if you guys want me to wear the muscle

1488
01:08:29,120 --> 01:08:30,800
Speaker 1: suit every day, I'll do it.

1489
01:08:31,080 --> 01:08:32,960
Speaker 2: I'll do it for them.

1490
01:08:34,120 --> 01:08:38,479
Speaker 4: Well, speaking about muscle suits playing basketball, last question, do

1491
01:08:38,520 --> 01:08:41,400
Speaker 4: you have any go to moves when playing basketball? If any?

1492
01:08:41,439 --> 01:08:46,120
Speaker 4: And that's from normal estimate one on Reddit. Anybody got their.

1493
01:08:46,000 --> 01:08:46,599
Speaker 2: Go train.

1494
01:08:48,200 --> 01:08:52,000
Speaker 1: Hands in points. My best friend, his last name is Hanson,

1495
01:08:52,000 --> 01:08:54,040
Speaker 1: and all he does is run from rim to rim,

1496
01:08:54,200 --> 01:08:57,280
Speaker 1: grabbing rebounds and putting them up on the basket. So

1497
01:08:57,400 --> 01:09:00,200
Speaker 1: after you know, the pandemic layoff a long time, not play.

1498
01:09:00,240 --> 01:09:01,960
Speaker 1: I'm like, I have zero skills. The only thing I'm

1499
01:09:01,960 --> 01:09:03,519
Speaker 1: gonna be able to do is run back and forth.

1500
01:09:03,960 --> 01:09:06,639
Speaker 1: So I just run back and forth, get us close

1501
01:09:06,680 --> 01:09:08,720
Speaker 1: to the rim and make a layup. Turns out it

1502
01:09:08,720 --> 01:09:12,080
Speaker 1: actually works, you know, being very close to the basket

1503
01:09:12,080 --> 01:09:15,960
Speaker 1: and being the tallest guy. Pretty sweet. I wish it

1504
01:09:15,960 --> 01:09:18,880
Speaker 1: wouldn't have taken me until age thirty eight to lock

1505
01:09:18,960 --> 01:09:19,559
Speaker 1: that down.

1506
01:09:20,160 --> 01:09:22,880
Speaker 2: But yeah, your go to move is like post play.

1507
01:09:22,920 --> 01:09:25,040
Speaker 2: But then you'll do it like a little like a

1508
01:09:25,040 --> 01:09:27,200
Speaker 2: little fade away around the free throw line. That is

1509
01:09:27,240 --> 01:09:28,840
Speaker 2: like your that's your go to shot.

1510
01:09:29,160 --> 01:09:33,439
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, I would agree, a lazy man's.

1511
01:09:33,240 --> 01:09:35,440
Speaker 2: Dirt, noess Yeah yeah, like a little closer.

1512
01:09:35,439 --> 01:09:37,840
Speaker 1: Softy, big soft guy. Yeah yeah, you know I could

1513
01:09:37,880 --> 01:09:39,240
Speaker 1: be tough. That was the thing. I'm trying to get

1514
01:09:39,280 --> 01:09:41,680
Speaker 1: my hands and points out, trying to be tougher. And

1515
01:09:41,760 --> 01:09:43,600
Speaker 1: I'd said when I came back to playing skates, I

1516
01:09:43,600 --> 01:09:45,920
Speaker 1: was like, I can't shoot fadaways right now. I don't.

1517
01:09:46,000 --> 01:09:46,760
Speaker 1: I haven't earned it.

1518
01:09:46,880 --> 01:09:49,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, the jumper is not back like.

1519
01:09:49,120 --> 01:09:51,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just wasn't feeling smooth out there, but we'll see.

1520
01:09:51,920 --> 01:09:53,719
Speaker 1: Think we're back on the court tonight.

1521
01:09:54,800 --> 01:09:56,479
Speaker 2: That's what the word on the street is that the

1522
01:09:56,560 --> 01:09:58,679
Speaker 2: gym is back. Baby. They fixed the roof.

1523
01:09:59,360 --> 01:10:02,920
Speaker 1: You retired three weeks. I mean three weeks. I got

1524
01:10:03,040 --> 01:10:05,680
Speaker 1: to run in two weeks. I can't.

1525
01:10:07,479 --> 01:10:08,759
Speaker 2: I don't want to tweak anything.

1526
01:10:08,800 --> 01:10:11,400
Speaker 4: But the person that's uh going rim to rim is

1527
01:10:11,439 --> 01:10:14,519
Speaker 4: the person you want to play with. And it's the

1528
01:10:14,600 --> 01:10:16,800
Speaker 4: smart person too. And if you haven't played in a

1529
01:10:16,800 --> 01:10:18,200
Speaker 4: long time, that's what.

1530
01:10:18,160 --> 01:10:18,680
Speaker 1: You gotta do.

1531
01:10:19,080 --> 01:10:21,240
Speaker 4: You just got to go at it. Because I remember

1532
01:10:21,280 --> 01:10:23,639
Speaker 4: even playing with her man Brad Kouchikowski, who hadn't played

1533
01:10:23,640 --> 01:10:26,599
Speaker 4: basketball for a long time. He just ran rim to rim,

1534
01:10:26,920 --> 01:10:30,080
Speaker 4: put his butt out, grabbed a rebound and put it

1535
01:10:30,120 --> 01:10:31,280
Speaker 4: back out And.

1536
01:10:31,400 --> 01:10:35,880
Speaker 2: Turns out you could scoil close. Yeah, everyone wants to

1537
01:10:35,880 --> 01:10:39,080
Speaker 2: just pull up from thirty feet that's cooler. What's my

1538
01:10:39,160 --> 01:10:39,680
Speaker 2: go to move?

1539
01:10:39,720 --> 01:10:42,320
Speaker 1: Your go to move is on a fast break. You're

1540
01:10:42,360 --> 01:10:44,439
Speaker 1: the fastest guy out there. But if there's a defender back,

1541
01:10:44,439 --> 01:10:46,280
Speaker 1: you come at him. You cross over to the left

1542
01:10:46,320 --> 01:10:48,240
Speaker 1: hand and spin back to the right hand. It's a

1543
01:10:48,280 --> 01:10:50,760
Speaker 1: Tony Parker spin is what I would call it, it's

1544
01:10:50,800 --> 01:10:53,320
Speaker 1: tough to stop. That's your go to move.

1545
01:10:53,880 --> 01:10:55,519
Speaker 2: I thought it would be something like that in a

1546
01:10:55,560 --> 01:10:58,439
Speaker 2: fast break because I'm struggling with this, I like the

1547
01:10:58,439 --> 01:10:59,960
Speaker 2: best I could come up with my go to moving.

1548
01:11:00,000 --> 01:11:02,120
Speaker 2: It'sn't really a move. It's like I take off really

1549
01:11:02,200 --> 01:11:05,120
Speaker 2: far on a layup. I'm a bit of a glider

1550
01:11:05,120 --> 01:11:07,280
Speaker 2: in the air. I'm not obviously getting above the rim,

1551
01:11:07,400 --> 01:11:09,840
Speaker 2: but I can jump quite far in the air. And

1552
01:11:09,880 --> 01:11:12,519
Speaker 2: when I play, people are always like, I didn't think

1553
01:11:12,520 --> 01:11:14,200
Speaker 2: you were gonna take off from there and then do

1554
01:11:14,240 --> 01:11:16,120
Speaker 2: a layup, you know what I mean. So it gets

1555
01:11:16,120 --> 01:11:19,559
Speaker 2: people by surprise where I'm launching. But okay, I'll take that.

1556
01:11:19,800 --> 01:11:22,599
Speaker 2: I'll take the TP spin there on the fast bring.

1557
01:11:22,840 --> 01:11:24,719
Speaker 2: Let's just hope we make it through tonight without getting

1558
01:11:24,720 --> 01:11:27,599
Speaker 2: injured because it's been a while since a competitive best.

1559
01:11:27,720 --> 01:11:27,880
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1560
01:11:28,400 --> 01:11:30,400
Speaker 2: I can't wait though. Oh yeah, we'll be talking about

1561
01:11:30,400 --> 01:11:31,880
Speaker 2: it tomorrow's podcast.

1562
01:11:33,520 --> 01:11:36,800
Speaker 1: Sure, we're breaking down all eight pickup games from Wednesday night.

1563
01:11:37,040 --> 01:11:38,800
Speaker 2: Busy night. You got a lot of games on in

1564
01:11:38,840 --> 01:11:40,800
Speaker 2: the NBA. We got Survivor and then we got our

1565
01:11:40,800 --> 01:11:43,479
Speaker 2: own pickup run to at least commit thirty minutes too.

1566
01:11:43,520 --> 01:11:46,360
Speaker 2: On tomorrow's podcast. Okay, great stuff there, so we'll follow

1567
01:11:46,439 --> 01:11:48,559
Speaker 2: up to our ama. Thanks to everybody that jumped in

1568
01:11:48,600 --> 01:11:51,000
Speaker 2: on that and asked us questions. We tried to respond

1569
01:11:51,040 --> 01:11:51,639
Speaker 2: to as many.

1570
01:11:51,439 --> 01:11:53,719
Speaker 1: As We've got another one coming up after the break.

1571
01:11:54,040 --> 01:11:55,920
Speaker 2: Ooh good, good, good good. And when we come back,

1572
01:11:55,920 --> 01:11:58,400
Speaker 2: we'll make our pick picks for tonight. Don't go anywhere,

1573
01:11:59,600 --> 01:12:01,519
Speaker 2: all right, back with no dunks here, let's start wrapping

1574
01:12:01,600 --> 01:12:05,479
Speaker 2: up this podcast. A lot of games on tonight, including

1575
01:12:05,479 --> 01:12:09,240
Speaker 2: our pickup run which starts at seven pm. Just in

1576
01:12:09,280 --> 01:12:11,880
Speaker 2: case you're interested, they should add it to the NBA

1577
01:12:11,880 --> 01:12:14,320
Speaker 2: dot com schedule. But where are we going for our

1578
01:12:14,360 --> 01:12:15,200
Speaker 2: pickum game tonight?

1579
01:12:15,320 --> 01:12:15,479
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1580
01:12:15,479 --> 01:12:18,800
Speaker 4: The NBA is back at night off. How'd you search

1581
01:12:18,840 --> 01:12:19,439
Speaker 4: on the internet?

1582
01:12:19,439 --> 01:12:19,639
Speaker 1: There?

1583
01:12:19,720 --> 01:12:23,960
Speaker 4: Scot and a game that I'm sure ESPN thought would

1584
01:12:23,960 --> 01:12:26,360
Speaker 4: have been more of a doozy to start the season.

1585
01:12:26,439 --> 01:12:29,680
Speaker 4: It's a slightly lackluster now the way the Lakers are

1586
01:12:29,720 --> 01:12:33,599
Speaker 4: playing and the Clippers don't have Kawhi, they're meeting up.

1587
01:12:33,600 --> 01:12:36,200
Speaker 4: The Clippers are the home team in Staples Center and

1588
01:12:36,240 --> 01:12:39,840
Speaker 4: they are four and a half point.

1589
01:12:41,040 --> 01:12:42,559
Speaker 1: Dogs. I must have made a mistake.

1590
01:12:42,560 --> 01:12:44,599
Speaker 2: I was going to say, is that right? I can't

1591
01:12:46,360 --> 01:12:49,080
Speaker 2: Clippers are favored by that we now, I mean that

1592
01:12:49,200 --> 01:12:50,040
Speaker 2: has to be wrong.

1593
01:12:49,840 --> 01:12:51,680
Speaker 4: That has to be that has to have been a

1594
01:12:51,880 --> 01:12:55,960
Speaker 4: foreign at what a mistake by me? Yeah, I was

1595
01:12:56,040 --> 01:13:00,960
Speaker 4: doing this early, probably a six am phone submission.

1596
01:13:01,040 --> 01:13:02,560
Speaker 2: That'll get you.

1597
01:13:02,560 --> 01:13:03,320
Speaker 1: You had a dummy.

1598
01:13:03,360 --> 01:13:06,200
Speaker 4: Of course, the Clippers are favorite.

1599
01:13:05,280 --> 01:13:07,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's why I took that. That's why I took

1600
01:13:07,680 --> 01:13:11,920
Speaker 2: the Clippers. I was like, who's not playing the Clippers?

1601
01:13:11,960 --> 01:13:12,920
Speaker 2: I don't care taking them?

1602
01:13:13,360 --> 01:13:14,280
Speaker 1: Okay, so what do we do?

1603
01:13:14,439 --> 01:13:16,600
Speaker 4: So No, we're putting the Clippers up as four and

1604
01:13:16,680 --> 01:13:19,960
Speaker 4: a half point favorites. My mistake, that's my mistake. Also,

1605
01:13:20,760 --> 01:13:23,600
Speaker 4: I made my pick to pick the Lakers because the

1606
01:13:23,600 --> 01:13:27,320
Speaker 4: Clippers don't my mind blow teams out, doesn't feel like it. Anyways,

1607
01:13:27,400 --> 01:13:29,280
Speaker 4: I did. I did the math. You want to hear

1608
01:13:29,320 --> 01:13:33,800
Speaker 4: more numbers. They've had six wins this season by an

1609
01:13:33,800 --> 01:13:35,759
Speaker 4: average of four and a half points.

1610
01:13:36,000 --> 01:13:37,479
Speaker 2: So that's why we're gonna be a push.

1611
01:13:37,680 --> 01:13:39,439
Speaker 1: That's gonna go. We're gonna win by four and a

1612
01:13:39,439 --> 01:13:39,880
Speaker 1: half point.

1613
01:13:40,400 --> 01:13:42,679
Speaker 2: We're going four and a half that the Clippers are favored.

1614
01:13:42,720 --> 01:13:44,439
Speaker 1: But yeah, so you guys got you guys?

1615
01:13:44,800 --> 01:13:46,559
Speaker 2: Can we bump it down to three? Which ut the line?

1616
01:13:46,560 --> 01:13:49,200
Speaker 1: No, no, not now, Okay, okay, you guys thought.

1617
01:13:49,120 --> 01:13:50,519
Speaker 2: All right, you want to switch yours if you want,

1618
01:13:50,560 --> 01:13:50,840
Speaker 2: go ahead.

1619
01:13:50,840 --> 01:13:53,600
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, you're right, I still want Okay, me too, Okay, No,

1620
01:13:53,640 --> 01:13:54,080
Speaker 4: you can make it.

1621
01:13:54,160 --> 01:13:54,519
Speaker 1: Let's meet.

1622
01:13:54,600 --> 01:13:56,960
Speaker 4: No, you're right, I don't know what I'm doing here.

1623
01:13:58,520 --> 01:14:00,280
Speaker 4: The numbers don't make sense. We'll make it three and

1624
01:14:00,320 --> 01:14:00,559
Speaker 4: a half.

1625
01:14:00,840 --> 01:14:03,439
Speaker 2: Three and a half. I like that compromise. Okay, that's good. Okay,

1626
01:14:03,439 --> 01:14:04,040
Speaker 2: we're both staking.

1627
01:14:04,040 --> 01:14:10,240
Speaker 4: You guys have to four mistake podcast. You know what

1628
01:14:10,439 --> 01:14:12,320
Speaker 4: I would say. I would say that was the most

1629
01:14:12,439 --> 01:14:15,439
Speaker 4: entertaining pick. And we've had all seasons because we're talking

1630
01:14:15,439 --> 01:14:18,200
Speaker 4: about mistakes rather than just oh there's a line.

1631
01:14:18,280 --> 01:14:20,240
Speaker 2: Oh, you know what's gonna be really interesting? When the

1632
01:14:20,280 --> 01:14:24,200
Speaker 2: Clippers win by just four points exactly, then you're gonna

1633
01:14:24,200 --> 01:14:27,280
Speaker 2: come in all fired up because you're gonna say, oh,

1634
01:14:27,320 --> 01:14:28,599
Speaker 2: it should have been four and a half.

1635
01:14:28,800 --> 01:14:32,479
Speaker 4: I've never made this mistake before. I'm really upset with myself. No,

1636
01:14:32,560 --> 01:14:33,200
Speaker 4: I'm okay with it.

1637
01:14:33,240 --> 01:14:36,960
Speaker 1: I've made that mistake many times, many many times. I've

1638
01:14:36,960 --> 01:14:41,720
Speaker 1: made that mistake exactly. Okay, not you me. I'm not

1639
01:14:41,760 --> 01:14:45,639
Speaker 1: calling you dummy, not this time, not this time. Okay.

1640
01:14:46,840 --> 01:14:50,479
Speaker 4: One more submission from our Ama, RETI we didn't get

1641
01:14:50,520 --> 01:14:52,160
Speaker 4: to that. We wanted to get to. Trey promised to

1642
01:14:52,200 --> 01:14:55,920
Speaker 4: try and get quote, the most tubular photo of Yams,

1643
01:14:55,960 --> 01:14:59,640
Speaker 4: his dog. He has yet to deliver. So have you

1644
01:14:59,680 --> 01:15:04,240
Speaker 4: delivered for now, Trey, because the petch bobcat on Reddit

1645
01:15:04,640 --> 01:15:05,320
Speaker 4: wants to know.

1646
01:15:06,120 --> 01:15:08,160
Speaker 1: Tell me if this is a tubular photo of Yams,

1647
01:15:08,160 --> 01:15:11,879
Speaker 1: we'll put it up afterwards. That's tubular. That's pretty tubular.

1648
01:15:12,479 --> 01:15:15,519
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, it's not as tubular as I

1649
01:15:15,520 --> 01:15:18,640
Speaker 2: thought it would be. Wow, yeah, my dog is more tubular.

1650
01:15:18,760 --> 01:15:25,400
Speaker 1: I mean we're saying tubular from like a tube shaped standpoint. Okay, agreement, okay, okay,

1651
01:15:25,439 --> 01:15:27,120
Speaker 1: that does I thought that was the most tubular.

1652
01:15:27,200 --> 01:15:28,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, that illustrates it a lot better.

1653
01:15:28,720 --> 01:15:29,280
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1654
01:15:29,640 --> 01:15:31,519
Speaker 4: Yeah, it doesn't get much more tubular than that.

1655
01:15:31,640 --> 01:15:32,360
Speaker 2: No, it's pretty good.

1656
01:15:32,439 --> 01:15:34,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that. I feel like this comment came

1657
01:15:34,479 --> 01:15:36,639
Speaker 1: like there was a some sort of viral photo going

1658
01:15:36,680 --> 01:15:38,720
Speaker 1: around of like a dog jumping or something like that,

1659
01:15:38,720 --> 01:15:41,200
Speaker 1: but it tucked its legs in, so just like a

1660
01:15:41,320 --> 01:15:45,000
Speaker 1: like a tube dog. So you know, I got a

1661
01:15:45,040 --> 01:15:45,840
Speaker 1: sort of tube dog.

1662
01:15:45,920 --> 01:15:46,200
Speaker 4: Yeah you do.

1663
01:15:46,320 --> 01:15:48,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, I got pretty dog. Yeah, But I agree with

1664
01:15:48,520 --> 01:15:51,080
Speaker 1: these skeets. A picture from the front where you can

1665
01:15:51,240 --> 01:15:54,360
Speaker 1: kind of like see it. Going into the background would

1666
01:15:54,400 --> 01:15:56,879
Speaker 1: be more tubular. Yeah, that would be the most tubular.

1667
01:15:56,880 --> 01:15:58,519
Speaker 1: But as soon as I went to take a picture

1668
01:15:58,520 --> 01:15:59,880
Speaker 1: of Yams's face, he was just looking at me.

1669
01:16:00,600 --> 01:16:01,920
Speaker 2: It's too cute, too cute.

1670
01:16:01,920 --> 01:16:04,639
Speaker 1: I'll see another picture in ten years. Well, that dog

1671
01:16:04,720 --> 01:16:07,240
Speaker 1: is gonna live forever. She's telling me.

1672
01:16:07,600 --> 01:16:11,840
Speaker 2: You're telling me, yeahm s, don't go bad. I don't

1673
01:16:11,880 --> 01:16:12,479
Speaker 2: think that's true.

1674
01:16:12,479 --> 01:16:16,160
Speaker 1: Actually, I start growing weird little green things off the side,

1675
01:16:16,240 --> 01:16:17,120
Speaker 1: throw in your garden.

1676
01:16:18,280 --> 01:16:19,920
Speaker 4: What could be more to you think Luna is more

1677
01:16:20,000 --> 01:16:21,559
Speaker 4: tubular my head?

1678
01:16:21,720 --> 01:16:23,880
Speaker 2: I think in my head, I always think Yams is

1679
01:16:23,920 --> 01:16:27,519
Speaker 2: bigger than she is and longer than she is. And

1680
01:16:27,560 --> 01:16:29,639
Speaker 2: I now have a dog, And then when when Luna

1681
01:16:29,680 --> 01:16:32,320
Speaker 2: comes over, when we see them together, it's like, oh no,

1682
01:16:32,439 --> 01:16:35,479
Speaker 2: my dog's my dog is oddly bigger than your dog

1683
01:16:35,600 --> 01:16:37,600
Speaker 2: and longer. I just think, I don't know, it's a

1684
01:16:37,640 --> 01:16:41,040
Speaker 2: weird thing. Yeah, it's not a break, but it's not.

1685
01:16:41,160 --> 01:16:46,519
Speaker 1: No, but your dog, your dog has athletic conscious. Use

1686
01:16:46,600 --> 01:16:51,320
Speaker 1: promo code no dunks of athleticconscious dot your first order.

1687
01:16:52,240 --> 01:16:54,280
Speaker 2: If our dogs could play pick up ball, Yams would

1688
01:16:54,320 --> 01:16:57,519
Speaker 2: play like you rim to rim And and Luna would

1689
01:16:57,520 --> 01:17:00,160
Speaker 2: be taken off from way too far to try and

1690
01:17:00,760 --> 01:17:03,639
Speaker 2: finish the layups on the fast break. And it's speedy, yeah.

1691
01:17:03,600 --> 01:17:04,240
Speaker 1: Way faster.

1692
01:17:04,880 --> 01:17:06,960
Speaker 4: It's got more tubular as the years have gone on.

1693
01:17:07,000 --> 01:17:10,800
Speaker 1: It yeah, yeah. Once the girls started eating solid food,

1694
01:17:10,800 --> 01:17:13,559
Speaker 1: it was tube time, tubed time.

1695
01:17:14,080 --> 01:17:16,960
Speaker 2: All right, there you go, there you go, bobcat, here

1696
01:17:16,960 --> 01:17:21,599
Speaker 2: you go, bobcast photo. I guess tubular, like that's cool

1697
01:17:21,720 --> 01:17:24,960
Speaker 2: dog not anymore.

1698
01:17:25,000 --> 01:17:30,479
Speaker 4: Maybe in the late nineteen hundreds.

1699
01:17:28,560 --> 01:17:34,240
Speaker 2: Turtles, you're big tubular, very tubular dogs were tubular turtles.

1700
01:17:34,920 --> 01:17:38,160
Speaker 4: Anyways, hopefully we intend to make this ridit show more

1701
01:17:38,200 --> 01:17:42,360
Speaker 4: tubular as the shows go on. Let us know, probably monthly,

1702
01:17:42,800 --> 01:17:45,040
Speaker 4: as as we progress here. Who knows where the show

1703
01:17:45,080 --> 01:17:48,519
Speaker 4: goes though, Send in your suggestions. We'll be monitoring Reddit

1704
01:17:48,720 --> 01:17:51,000
Speaker 4: as we always do. Bring in the best threads to

1705
01:17:51,080 --> 01:17:53,040
Speaker 4: talk about and discuss here.

1706
01:17:53,200 --> 01:17:54,360
Speaker 1: The original content.

1707
01:17:54,680 --> 01:17:57,639
Speaker 4: Maybe in oh seer out there that's doing their thing

1708
01:17:58,000 --> 01:18:00,120
Speaker 4: will come on. I see a lot of people on

1709
01:18:00,120 --> 01:18:02,960
Speaker 4: rereddit saying you're gonna bring on with a camera. You're

1710
01:18:02,960 --> 01:18:04,960
Speaker 4: gonna bring on rereditor on camera?

1711
01:18:05,000 --> 01:18:05,920
Speaker 1: Who knows game?

1712
01:18:06,280 --> 01:18:06,360
Speaker 2: Ye?

1713
01:18:06,479 --> 01:18:06,880
Speaker 1: Why not?

1714
01:18:07,040 --> 01:18:07,320
Speaker 3: Sure?

1715
01:18:07,479 --> 01:18:10,160
Speaker 2: People got takes, let's fire them off. I did enjoy this,

1716
01:18:10,240 --> 01:18:12,000
Speaker 2: not part of it, of course being no basketball last night,

1717
01:18:12,040 --> 01:18:15,240
Speaker 2: but I liked like it's not like heavy like game recap,

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01:18:15,320 --> 01:18:17,680
Speaker 2: you know, absolutely. I love like the big picture of

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Speaker 2: the big trade topics, the Curry MVP talk all that

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Speaker 2: good stuff and beach step and vibe to me, oh,

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Speaker 2: big time, big time. All right, Well, if you're new

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Speaker 2: please like the video. If you listen to the podcast,

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Speaker 2: leave your boys five star rating and interview later today.

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Speaker 2: Is this good? Maddio and Max Shapiro and JD going

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Speaker 2: through restaurant? Is this good topic? So that's gonna be

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Speaker 2: a lot of fun. They'll get that up a little

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Speaker 2: bit later. But subscribe it is this good? And check

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Speaker 2: out No Breaks Days of Thunder film session. That wasn't

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Speaker 2: making your list day, JD. Days of Thunder You didn't mind?

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Speaker 3: I didn't mind it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, listen to the pod.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, listen to the pod. Go check it out Days

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Speaker 2: of Thunder No Breaks podcast feed and YouTube feed. All right,

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Speaker 2: we'll see you guys tomorrow to break down all the

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Speaker 2: games and most importantly our pickup run tonight till then,

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Speaker 2: Clipper Bros.

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Speaker 1: You heard it here first, have a great time, turn up,

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Speaker 1: love you guys awesome, thanks.

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Speaker 4: For joining us, and remember The Devil Wears Prada was

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Speaker 4: a good movie, a great movie, a perfect movie.

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Speaker 2: In fact, embrace the day, people,