WEBVTT - Uneasy Rider

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, there, everybody. In this episode of Amy and TJ.

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<v Speaker 1>What do Pope Francis and the kicker for the Kansas

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<v Speaker 1>City Chiefs have in comment? Well, they both made comment

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<v Speaker 1>that many found offensive. What do they not have in comment? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>only one of them has now apologized. Also, in this episode,

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<v Speaker 1>the most dangerous, treacherous, and possibly stupid highway ride of

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<v Speaker 1>my life happened over the Memorial Day weekend and Amy

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<v Speaker 1>Robach sat there and watched it happen. Also, what do

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<v Speaker 1>you do when your partner wants to plan your next

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<v Speaker 1>vacation to Jamaica but you want to take an Alaskan cruise?

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<v Speaker 1>How do you resolve that issue? And finally, folks, at

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<v Speaker 1>the end of this episode, we truly, truly hope you

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<v Speaker 1>will pick up your phone and message the person who

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<v Speaker 1>deserves a long overdue check in from you, and welcome

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<v Speaker 1>with all that, welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ.

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<v Speaker 2>Roobes. Wow, I feel like I'm in the morning rundown.

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<v Speaker 2>It's great.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we got it with a lot's happened since we

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<v Speaker 1>were on these mics last I guess.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, But I like how the podcast is just mapped out.

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<v Speaker 2>It's great, I know, where we're going. I know where

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<v Speaker 2>you're taking me.

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<v Speaker 1>I like it. How about this? Where do you want

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<v Speaker 1>to go first? I want to start and get it

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<v Speaker 1>over with. The ride we took over the holiday weekend.

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<v Speaker 1>Hope everybody had a good Memorial Day. It was some

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<v Speaker 1>nasty weather up here that ruined the actual day for

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<v Speaker 1>folks here in New York. But generally we were learning

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<v Speaker 1>here from our producers in the room there was good

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<v Speaker 1>weather or the weekend in New York, which is not

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<v Speaker 1>Memorial Day.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, so I think we had spectacular weather. I think

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<v Speaker 2>is fair to say Friday, Saturday, Sunday. The problem was

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<v Speaker 2>our travel days, which were Thursday and Monday, were not

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<v Speaker 2>just not spectacular, they were downright treacherous, severe thunderstorm warning. Treacherous.

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<v Speaker 1>Would you say I said dangerous? Would you say stupid?

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<v Speaker 1>As well? The ride? My ride was stupid. It was

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<v Speaker 1>a stupid thing to do.

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<v Speaker 2>Well given your level of experience. Yes, yes, we.

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<v Speaker 1>Have to explain that, to have to throw in an

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<v Speaker 1>insult as we were trying to tell this story. I'm trying, Andy,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to be open, right, I'm trying to be vulnerable.

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<v Speaker 1>And you hear that, and he heard it. He caught it.

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<v Speaker 1>I some no, it's stood out there or whatever. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>have a motorcycle that I'll ride around the city here.

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<v Speaker 1>I love it. But we were going to a lake

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<v Speaker 1>this weekend and took some time in Connecticut on the lake,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was so excited get to put the bike

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<v Speaker 1>on the road when this is my first actual road

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<v Speaker 1>trip and beautiful ride out of the city, out of Manhattan. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>going on in the FDR. Well there, it's beautiful. How

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<v Speaker 1>far did we get before things?

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<v Speaker 2>I think we just passed Yankee Stadium, okay, and all

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<v Speaker 2>of a sudden the skies turned black. So I was

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<v Speaker 2>in a car there it is in front of TJ.

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<v Speaker 2>You were in a motorcycle behind me.

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<v Speaker 1>How was your real view? How was that rear viewer?

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<v Speaker 2>I honestly was looking back at you as much as

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<v Speaker 2>I was looking forward, like I felt like I never

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<v Speaker 2>took my eyes off you and the road at the

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<v Speaker 2>same time, because I was worried about both for anyone

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<v Speaker 2>even driving in these conditions, I could barely see. It

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<v Speaker 2>was a flash flood. The skies opened up. It got

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<v Speaker 2>so dark that you know when you're in your car

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<v Speaker 2>when it turns to night and everything in the colors

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<v Speaker 2>in your car changed to dark, like that's how dark

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<v Speaker 2>it was. My car thought it was night time. And

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<v Speaker 2>there was lightning and thunder and rained so hard that

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<v Speaker 2>you couldn't like. I was slow down to twenty five

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<v Speaker 2>miles an hour.

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<v Speaker 1>And I am sitting on a motorcycle going down the highway.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, we best we could do. Still, people were

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<v Speaker 1>hauling tails, so you had to get out of the way.

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<v Speaker 1>Forty plus miles an hour. Cannot see a thing. I

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<v Speaker 1>do not have on proper riding gear or weather gear,

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<v Speaker 1>and I trucks were pat you saw it. Trucks were

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<v Speaker 1>passing by. I was getting completely drink It was crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>I was looking back and thinking, oh my god, Like

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<v Speaker 2>when a semi truck would come by you and push

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<v Speaker 2>an entire like tsunami of water on top of you.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought it might knock you over, just the sheer

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<v Speaker 2>force of the water like cascading over you. And I

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't know what to do. You had jeans, you

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<v Speaker 2>were like soaked to the eventually had to pull.

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<v Speaker 1>Over once we had a little clear but we had

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<v Speaker 1>we couldn't stop in the middle of the mess with

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<v Speaker 1>the lightning. It was just too bad. You couldn't go

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<v Speaker 1>in an overpass, it was even more dangerous. I had

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<v Speaker 1>to just keep going. It was an adventure. And to

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<v Speaker 1>your point, I've only been riding a motorcycle full time

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<v Speaker 1>for I mean, this summer will make a year, so

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<v Speaker 1>I don't do a lot of road trips, and so

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have a lot of experience with this kind

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<v Speaker 1>of weather and what you should do and all that.

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<v Speaker 1>So it was we got to where we were going,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was a wonderful time in Connecticut on the lake.

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<v Speaker 1>We didn't have the girls with us, no, no kids

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<v Speaker 1>with us, so it was just the two of us.

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<v Speaker 2>It was peaceful and wonderful. No. No, no, we love

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<v Speaker 2>our girls. We love when they're with us.

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<v Speaker 1>You're insulting everybody.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I was just teasing. But no, to your point,

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<v Speaker 2>you said, you got like five years worth of driving

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<v Speaker 2>experience in one trip, because it was just so much

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<v Speaker 2>and you were excited to actually take it out on

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<v Speaker 2>the road and not be at a stoplight, not you know,

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<v Speaker 2>being able to take it above twenty five miles an hour,

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<v Speaker 2>which is a speed limit here in the city. So

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<v Speaker 2>I was so excited for you. I was encourage you

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<v Speaker 2>to bring the motorcycle. I'm like, it'll be fun. And

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<v Speaker 2>then when we get up there, Yeah, you were the

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<v Speaker 2>one push. I really was, because I know how much

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<v Speaker 2>you loved the thing, and I knew it was like

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<v Speaker 2>an opportunity to actually really learn what it can do

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<v Speaker 2>and where it can take you and how much fun

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<v Speaker 2>it can be. And then yeah, mother Nature had other plans.

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<v Speaker 1>Other plans, But we had a good time. It was

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<v Speaker 1>a good trip. But part of this trip was discussing

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<v Speaker 1>another trip. Everybody's just guiding about vacation right now. A

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people are already decided, but we were trying

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<v Speaker 1>to figure out where we wanted to go. You and

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<v Speaker 1>I are not on the same page a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>times with the types of trips we want to take,

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<v Speaker 1>because we are not always on the same page with

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<v Speaker 1>the types of activities we like to do on vacation.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, basically I like to be very active during vacation,

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<v Speaker 2>and you like to be very inactive during vacation.

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<v Speaker 1>None of this is an old, old look. In our careers,

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<v Speaker 1>we've gotten a chance. I mean, it's a blessing to

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<v Speaker 1>be able to travel as much as we do, but

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<v Speaker 1>travel has become so much work and just getting through

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<v Speaker 1>the airport and then for us getting somewhere and then

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<v Speaker 1>hoot and just having to hit it when it's time

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<v Speaker 1>for vacation, I don't want to do anything. I need

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<v Speaker 1>a direct flight to an airport that's only two or

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<v Speaker 1>three hours away. Short flight, hop off, small airport, get

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<v Speaker 1>me through, get me to my spot, and I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>sit out.

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<v Speaker 2>So nothing I'm used to. I like direct flights too,

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<v Speaker 2>but I don't mind changing to get to a off

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<v Speaker 2>the beaten path location. And then sometimes when it comes

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<v Speaker 2>to exploring, I like to hit at least two or

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<v Speaker 2>three different hotels, go from city to city, so I

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<v Speaker 2>can see as much as I possibly can in the

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<v Speaker 2>period of time. So now I've got parameters of direct

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<v Speaker 2>flight no more than eight hours, more than eight hours,

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<v Speaker 2>and we have to stay in the same hotel the

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<v Speaker 2>whole time.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, what since do Okay, we're just different on this.

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<v Speaker 1>I just unpacked these bags to get into this hotel,

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<v Speaker 1>so in three days, you don't need to pack up

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<v Speaker 1>again to travel to another hotel.

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<v Speaker 2>When you know you're doing that, you don't actually unpack

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<v Speaker 2>your bag. You just kind of.

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<v Speaker 1>Live out of a bagel.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you don't take the time to unpack it all

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<v Speaker 2>because there's the I agree, that makes no sense.

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<v Speaker 1>This is not relaxing, is my point. No, no, no, again,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a different type of vacation. But what you described

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<v Speaker 1>is when I say vacation, that's what it is.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, sometimes you take a trip, sometimes adventure. Okay, sometimes

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<v Speaker 2>what I like to do is you sometimes get the

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<v Speaker 2>adventure in the beginning or and then the last half

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<v Speaker 2>of it is the relax like I've done. Those those

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<v Speaker 2>are fun. That's a compromise.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, well maybe we'll get at that later. But we

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<v Speaker 1>went round and round and round trying to figure out

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<v Speaker 1>we have for weeks trying to figure out where we're

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<v Speaker 1>going on vacation and to make the point where Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>the types of places we were they were very few

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<v Speaker 1>that we were both excited about. Right, Okay, you have

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<v Speaker 1>your list. Okay, this is this is my list. We're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna go back and forth. I got six here and

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<v Speaker 1>no particular order online.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh you aren't in order?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, no particular order. But this this is the list now,

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<v Speaker 1>folks of the positive, these are the places we would go.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, he's gonna go back and forth. I'll say

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<v Speaker 1>mine first, Las.

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<v Speaker 2>Vegas, Italy, Cairo, Cairo, Cape Town, the Azores, I say

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<v Speaker 2>it as it's the Azores.

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<v Speaker 1>We're not going there. We can't even pronounce it. Uh, Majorca, Copenhagen.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's five right?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh? No, no, I still have another one. Okay, I

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<v Speaker 2>got port Oh, I said, Porto, Portugal.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Wow, different contents. Nothing in the States on your list, right? Okay?

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<v Speaker 1>And that's very hard to narrow down. What do folks

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<v Speaker 1>do we we have have narrowed it down. I woke up,

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<v Speaker 1>what was it? I got up on Monday? Was it Monday?

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<v Speaker 1>What day?

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<v Speaker 2>Was it? Monday?

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<v Speaker 1>Sunday? And you say, hey, I booked flights.

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<v Speaker 2>It's true. I just want ahead and booked them.

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<v Speaker 1>And I said, to where.

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<v Speaker 2>If we had gone back and forth so many times?

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<v Speaker 2>What we did? I don't know if anyone else has

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<v Speaker 2>done this, but we pulled up the Google flights and

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<v Speaker 2>it says anywhere. So give them like a two week

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<v Speaker 2>period of time, and the month you want to go,

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<v Speaker 2>and what airport you want to leave from, how many

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<v Speaker 2>stops you're willing to take, which for us was NonStop only,

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<v Speaker 2>which limits you significantly, And then and then you can

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<v Speaker 2>select what classic you know travel you want to go in,

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<v Speaker 2>and then it gives you the prices all on a map.

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<v Speaker 2>So that narrowed things down. Because some places I would

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<v Speaker 2>have loved to have gone, like Thailand or whatever, we're

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<v Speaker 2>just stupid expensive, so that immediately got ruled out. But

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<v Speaker 2>it really it's cool you can kind of see what

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<v Speaker 2>you get price wise for where you want to go.

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<v Speaker 2>So that helped us narrow it down. So where are

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<v Speaker 2>we going, baby.

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<v Speaker 1>Well we're will that's TVD. Wait, we had we have

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<v Speaker 1>some time to cancel.

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<v Speaker 2>No, that passed. I told you twenty four hours. It's

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<v Speaker 2>already fast going.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, we'll get back to y'all. We're just different in

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<v Speaker 1>that way, and we're different in activities. We just like

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<v Speaker 1>we learned this this well, we didn't learn this this weekend.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know who's a big hiker. Some people love hiking.

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<v Speaker 1>You are one of those people.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a big hiker, okay.

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<v Speaker 1>I am. I think I am firmly not just not

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<v Speaker 1>a hiker, like I am an anti hiking movement, like

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<v Speaker 1>I don't understand. Like, no, I don't want to go

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<v Speaker 1>walk up a hill, but.

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<v Speaker 2>If it takes you to beautiful destinations and locations that

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<v Speaker 2>you couldn't see in any other way or experience any

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<v Speaker 2>of these wonderful talks along the way. So you're like

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<v Speaker 2>working out without realizing you're working out, you're also achieving

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<v Speaker 2>an incredible view or especially if you're going up a mountain,

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<v Speaker 2>you can there's something that's kind of running a marathon.

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<v Speaker 2>It's something you can say, wow, I did that and

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<v Speaker 2>be proud of it because it wasn't easy.

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<v Speaker 1>Also, but that's not hiking. That's different type of like

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<v Speaker 1>mountain climbing versus hiking. What the hiking I'm referring to

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<v Speaker 1>and please correct me if I'm wrong. Folks, just go

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<v Speaker 1>out for a nature walk if you will. That's considered hiking.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, and I like that a lot. But I really

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<v Speaker 2>like having like destination, Like I would like to go

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<v Speaker 2>to Argentina to like, you know, the Patagonia area.

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<v Speaker 1>It's more climbing, is it not.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not climbing and hiking, it's both. Yeah, but yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and I like the idea of I don't mind backpacking

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<v Speaker 2>and not showering for seven days, I don't mind staying

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<v Speaker 2>on the mountain or what I was trying to convince

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<v Speaker 2>you was like there are some really cool, like village

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<v Speaker 2>to village to village, so you can hike into and

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<v Speaker 2>you end up at a hotel at the end, so

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<v Speaker 2>you don't have to do the tent. I get that.

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<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't I know, you wouldn't like it.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh no, oh no, Okay, now you're throwing in camping. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>wait a second, no, no, no, no, no, no no.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's go to the most rudimentary form of hiking, which

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<v Speaker 1>is not at extreme elevations, which not to a village,

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<v Speaker 1>which is not camping. I'm just talking about putting on

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<v Speaker 1>the boots and you go outside and you just walk

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<v Speaker 1>through the woods. Yeah. I am not necessarily a fan.

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<v Speaker 1>I've done it before, and I've enjoyed it when i've

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<v Speaker 1>done it, but it's not something that is really in

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<v Speaker 1>me that I enjoy doing.

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<v Speaker 2>Right kind of yes, and so sometimes this is where

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<v Speaker 2>I did appreciate you went on that kind of a

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<v Speaker 2>hike with me this weekend, and unfortunately it different times

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<v Speaker 2>of the year. It was a super buggy one, which

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<v Speaker 2>I was bummed about because of course, no one likes

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<v Speaker 2>to be like swarmed by nats and bugs and mosquitoes.

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<v Speaker 2>And that was pretty much the entire time we were

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<v Speaker 2>walking and I was like, I'm really sorry.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't fault you for that, but this is one

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<v Speaker 1>of those things. Everybody's been here before at some point

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<v Speaker 1>in the relationship where you are doing a solid for

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<v Speaker 1>your mates. Now you are actually, I'm going to an

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<v Speaker 1>event I don't want to go to. I'm watching something

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<v Speaker 1>I don't really want to watch. I gotta go be

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<v Speaker 1>around your family and whatever some of those things may be.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't, sweetheart. You have watched eighty seven basketball games

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<v Speaker 1>with me since March Madness and that in the NBA playoffs,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna get mad you want me to walk. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna complain about it, but it's just not something

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how. I guess we've done well affair,

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<v Speaker 1>it's up to this point, but it does. It can

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<v Speaker 1>cause issues in a relationship when you are that far

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<v Speaker 1>apart on where you want to go and the things

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<v Speaker 1>you want to do.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because you also have said that you don't like

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<v Speaker 2>packing a winter coat. That's not vacation. And see, I

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<v Speaker 2>love going to places like Iceland, and I really want

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<v Speaker 2>to go to Greenland, and you know, I love seeing

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<v Speaker 2>different landscapes and different climate zones and you're not a

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<v Speaker 2>fan of.

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<v Speaker 1>No, okay, but I like, I'm not a fan of

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<v Speaker 1>being cold, right right. I like landscapes. They have beautiful

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<v Speaker 1>ones all over the Caribbean, beautiful lands apes. But if

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<v Speaker 1>you telling me I need a Canada goose coat for

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<v Speaker 1>a trip I'm taking, that's not a vacation.

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<v Speaker 2>That's so funny.

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<v Speaker 1>That's an adventure.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, that's fine. We could call it an adventure. So

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<v Speaker 2>maybe we just every now and then go on an

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<v Speaker 2>adventure trip and not call it vacation. And it doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>have to be like I'm telling you, most every trip

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<v Speaker 2>I'd ever been on had been some sort of adventure,

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<v Speaker 2>like some sort of work or some sort of goal

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<v Speaker 2>oriented trip.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't ever just go on a trip to sit down

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<v Speaker 1>and get away and disconnect and relax.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't do it very often, but I am learning

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<v Speaker 2>to like that more. I get antsy, but I you know,

0:14:43.480 --> 0:14:46.040
<v Speaker 2>we're both learning each other's I mean, we knew it,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's a little bit of a challenge trying to

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<v Speaker 2>pick a place, just wanting everyone everyone, We all want

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<v Speaker 2>to have a good time. But yes, we have very

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<v Speaker 2>different ideas of what vacation looks like.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, is that. Okay, is vacation not really our problem

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<v Speaker 1>we're fighting about.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I oh oh, I thought about that. No, I

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<v Speaker 2>just I just think.

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<v Speaker 3>No.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what, though we are navigating I think pretty

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<v Speaker 2>well each other's differences, Like we just like I can't

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<v Speaker 2>make you like hiking. You can't make me enjoy watching

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<v Speaker 2>eighty seven basketball games through March through June, but you.

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<v Speaker 1>Found a way. I mean, I have asked other things

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<v Speaker 1>about the game you like. Yes, to your point.

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<v Speaker 2>You are on dred percent right, But it's like, isn't

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<v Speaker 2>it all about compromise? Like I wouldn't want to just

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<v Speaker 2>it would be boring if you liked everything I liked

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<v Speaker 2>and I liked everything you liked. So we can challenge

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<v Speaker 2>each other.

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<v Speaker 1>And isn't that what they say?

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<v Speaker 3>Though?

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<v Speaker 1>The thing is that you need to be You don't

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<v Speaker 1>need to be different in the ways that are deal breakers, right.

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<v Speaker 1>It's okay to have differences, but you need to be

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<v Speaker 1>alike in those main those specific ways that are more

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<v Speaker 1>at your core of who you are, who you both are. Ye,

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, the little stuff this is. But the hike

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<v Speaker 1>was hilarious because I know you felt bad and I

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<v Speaker 1>was behaving the whole time.

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<v Speaker 2>You never complain complaining one time. I agree. I have

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<v Speaker 2>to give you full credit for Oh it was and.

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<v Speaker 1>Again I like, I was there with you, I was

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<v Speaker 1>outside with you, I was talking with you. I think

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<v Speaker 1>we were in discussing vacation. But it was tough because yes,

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<v Speaker 1>it was bug, it was net and all this, and

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<v Speaker 1>we ended up Does anybody know what you call it

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<v Speaker 1>a meadow?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Can you easily quickly define what a meadow is? Does

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<v Speaker 1>anybody like, off the top of your head, can you

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<v Speaker 1>just say it? I've heard it. I get an idea

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<v Speaker 1>of something, but we ended up in a meadow, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, what the what does a meadow?

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<v Speaker 2>Lots of ticks? Unfortunately, I think that's what that meadow was.

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<v Speaker 2>It wasn't like that gorgeous rolling hill of a meadow.

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<v Speaker 2>I think meadows like grassland on a noll, like just.

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<v Speaker 1>We talk about it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a hill but a little bit bigger than a hill,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's not a mountain. Okay, it spelled knoll? Oh

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<v Speaker 2>my god?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, No, you know what, if I hiked more, I

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<v Speaker 1>would know what a metal and a nole was.

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<v Speaker 2>Probably. Well, don't worry, you got plenty of years with

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<v Speaker 2>me to figure it all.

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<v Speaker 1>Out, all you know, and she just she comes right

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<v Speaker 1>back and she brings it home, doesn't she. But though

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<v Speaker 1>we will keep you all updated, we'll let you know

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<v Speaker 1>where we end up for vacation, and if anybody has

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<v Speaker 1>any weight, we could tip the scale her way or

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<v Speaker 1>my way. We would love to hear how anybody else

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<v Speaker 1>resolves any of their issues when it comes to vacations,

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<v Speaker 1>because it is a big deal and you can't have

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<v Speaker 1>one person pissed off on vacation the whole time.

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<v Speaker 2>That would not be fun. Although we see it all

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<v Speaker 2>the time.

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<v Speaker 3>Actually it's one of the highlights of vacation looking at

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<v Speaker 3>how annoying it is to everyone else when they're trying

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<v Speaker 3>to deal with their spouse or their children while on

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<v Speaker 3>vacation where you're supposed to I'll.

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<v Speaker 2>Be having a lot of fun, Like there's so much pressure.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I have done that? No, okay, you

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<v Speaker 1>know we talked about we'll get into this in another episode.

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<v Speaker 1>But when it comes to sometimes being in the public eye,

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<v Speaker 1>and this is not having anything to do with us

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<v Speaker 1>being out there public couple, but just when I see

0:18:11.800 --> 0:18:15.639
<v Speaker 1>so many couples that look so miserable, and I go man,

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<v Speaker 1>I never want to look like that, never want to

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<v Speaker 1>look like that. And I've said this to you at

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<v Speaker 1>dinner or sitting out somewhere. You're on your phone looking

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<v Speaker 1>down and I'm sitting there just looking like an idiot

0:18:23.800 --> 0:18:26.399
<v Speaker 1>because you're doing something on your phone. Like baby, we

0:18:26.440 --> 0:18:27.160
<v Speaker 1>look like them.

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<v Speaker 2>We look to get off your phone.

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<v Speaker 3>I know.

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<v Speaker 2>We do make a point. And I have been worse

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<v Speaker 2>about it than you and you have. I've been on

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<v Speaker 2>my phone more than you. You are really, really, really

0:18:37.280 --> 0:18:38.920
<v Speaker 2>good about not being on your phone.

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<v Speaker 1>Know why, Because I'm right where I want to be

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<v Speaker 1>with the person I want to be with. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>need my device.

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<v Speaker 2>That's very sweet, but it felt like a result. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it was our direct it was Yeah, I wasn't supposed

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<v Speaker 2>to be subtle. I actually am into you versus no.

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<v Speaker 2>So I I am always wanting to do better. But

0:18:54.560 --> 0:18:56.439
<v Speaker 2>it's true, like you do. Look around and it's just

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<v Speaker 2>a default. Everyone goes to their phone. You could be

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<v Speaker 2>in the most magnificent place. I think we were, like

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<v Speaker 2>literally one of the most magnificent places in the world

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<v Speaker 2>in the French riviera, and we saw this family and

0:19:06.000 --> 0:19:09.760
<v Speaker 2>they were all no one was even looking. Oh like

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<v Speaker 2>they all had their phones up and like the little

0:19:11.680 --> 0:19:14.720
<v Speaker 2>ones had like you know, the big iPads, and like

0:19:14.800 --> 0:19:17.760
<v Speaker 2>there just had blinders on to what was all around them.

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<v Speaker 2>And I just it's easy again, one of those things

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<v Speaker 2>it's easy to see in other people and other famili

0:19:22.320 --> 0:19:25.960
<v Speaker 2>it's harder to recognize when you're doing it. But when

0:19:25.960 --> 0:19:27.679
<v Speaker 2>you do see that, it's always a wake up call,

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<v Speaker 2>like what am I doing on this stupid device when

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<v Speaker 2>I have all of this around me and the most

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<v Speaker 2>amazing person right across from me.

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<v Speaker 1>I give you, I'm talking a little trash here, but

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<v Speaker 1>no you're not. This has not been an issue for us.

0:19:38.840 --> 0:19:41.399
<v Speaker 1>I poke you a little bit about it, but it

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<v Speaker 1>is not an issue for us.

0:19:42.440 --> 0:19:44.359
<v Speaker 2>It's just that I think it's a habit more than anything.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like, oh, you know, I need to be constantly

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<v Speaker 2>stimulated at all times, so let me just you know,

0:19:50.040 --> 0:19:55.320
<v Speaker 2>instead of just to your point, relaxing, unwinding, just being

0:19:55.520 --> 0:19:56.080
<v Speaker 2>being still.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you don't have to have an adventure on every vacation.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't, and I am. And honestly, my mom probably

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<v Speaker 2>if she could be here right now, would just give

0:20:04.520 --> 0:20:08.000
<v Speaker 2>you a huge thank you. She has always my whole life.

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<v Speaker 2>Asked me to slow down. Why can't you just slow down?

0:20:11.000 --> 0:20:13.240
<v Speaker 2>Why can't you just relax? Why can't you just be?

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<v Speaker 2>And every time I was going off on these adventures,

0:20:16.480 --> 0:20:21.200
<v Speaker 2>she was worried about me because adventures do usually involve

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<v Speaker 2>some level of risk, and so she was frustrated by

0:20:25.480 --> 0:20:27.720
<v Speaker 2>my idea of fun and my idea of adventure and travel.

0:20:27.760 --> 0:20:31.359
<v Speaker 2>So she's very happy to see me sitting peacefully somewhere

0:20:31.440 --> 0:20:33.520
<v Speaker 2>and not dangling off the side of something.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you stick with me. Your mom's gonna love your

0:20:37.600 --> 0:20:48.679
<v Speaker 1>safe travel. The other thing we mentioned here at the

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<v Speaker 1>top that we actually did a previous episode here about

0:20:52.920 --> 0:20:58.000
<v Speaker 1>was Harrison Butker from the Kansas City Chiefs, the kicker there.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a few weeks ago he made at this point,

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<v Speaker 1>can remember the name of the college, but he made

0:21:01.520 --> 0:21:04.720
<v Speaker 1>a to a Catholic school in Kansas. In Kansas, he

0:21:04.920 --> 0:21:09.600
<v Speaker 1>made a commencement address that many people found offensive for

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<v Speaker 1>various reasons. They thought he was telling women to yes,

0:21:12.920 --> 0:21:16.919
<v Speaker 1>you get your degrees, but your most valuable thing you

0:21:16.920 --> 0:21:19.359
<v Speaker 1>could be doing is being a mother and being a

0:21:19.400 --> 0:21:26.440
<v Speaker 1>white a homemaker. Yeah, so he hasn't apologized and by

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<v Speaker 1>all he said, since it doesn't seem like he's gonna apologize,

0:21:28.840 --> 0:21:32.239
<v Speaker 1>almost doubled down. He made another speech recently in which he,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, he acknowledged the controversy, but stuck to what

0:21:36.720 --> 0:21:40.120
<v Speaker 1>his beliefs were about Catholicism and what he believed about

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<v Speaker 1>the vocation of marriage.

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<v Speaker 2>That's fine, and he also, we should point out because

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<v Speaker 2>we did at the time as well. He also talked

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<v Speaker 2>about Pride Month in a in a very offensive way,

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<v Speaker 2>and that angered a lot of folks, as you might imagine.

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<v Speaker 2>In the LGBTQ.

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<v Speaker 1>No, and that one that was the one again we

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<v Speaker 1>talked about it here to what, Hey, this guy has

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<v Speaker 1>his right to his beliefs and a lot of these

0:22:00.960 --> 0:22:05.200
<v Speaker 1>beliefs come from Catholicism, and that's fine. You can take issue.

0:22:05.640 --> 0:22:08.880
<v Speaker 1>The LGBTQ plus comment was a kind of a throwaway,

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<v Speaker 1>a one line. He didn't delve into anything, and that

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<v Speaker 1>was the only thing that came across as unnecessarily unnecessary

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<v Speaker 1>and even mean, I think is what I said at

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<v Speaker 1>the time, just one line in which he was saying

0:22:19.680 --> 0:22:22.760
<v Speaker 1>he used the word pride about something else unrelated, and

0:22:22.800 --> 0:22:24.600
<v Speaker 1>he said, no, I'm not talking about the kind of

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<v Speaker 1>pride that has a whole month dedicated to it. It

0:22:27.920 --> 0:22:30.960
<v Speaker 1>was just a throwaway line and he believes it. That's fine.

0:22:31.119 --> 0:22:34.960
<v Speaker 1>But you as you talked about here, I mean Catholics,

0:22:34.960 --> 0:22:38.440
<v Speaker 1>Catholicism is very it's lots of people say, pretty clear

0:22:38.480 --> 0:22:40.960
<v Speaker 1>when it comes to its views on homosexuality.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean the Pope has the current Pope, Pope Francis

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<v Speaker 2>has given some folks hope that he was going to

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<v Speaker 2>be more inclusive, and he's tried to be inclusive individually,

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<v Speaker 2>but he reiterated that he does not the Church does not.

0:22:55.680 --> 0:23:00.720
<v Speaker 2>The Bible does not condone homosexual activities. So yes, they

0:23:00.720 --> 0:23:01.800
<v Speaker 2>are very clear on that.

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<v Speaker 1>So here we go now with Pope Folks Sai at

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<v Speaker 1>the top. Pope Francis and Harrison Bucker have something in common,

0:23:07.040 --> 0:23:08.760
<v Speaker 1>but the thing they don't have in common is that

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<v Speaker 1>now one of them has apologized for comments that they

0:23:12.200 --> 0:23:15.840
<v Speaker 1>made that came across as that were offensive to many people.

0:23:15.880 --> 0:23:17.760
<v Speaker 1>And the person we're talking about now is Pope Francis,

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<v Speaker 1>who was at I believe it was last week, a

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<v Speaker 1>conference of bishops.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a private conference.

0:23:23.760 --> 0:23:26.480
<v Speaker 1>It was private, so yes, he will nobody, no recording

0:23:26.480 --> 0:23:29.679
<v Speaker 1>devices in there. This wasn't for public consumption, but it

0:23:29.720 --> 0:23:33.680
<v Speaker 1>came out of that, and initially tabloids, but then reporting

0:23:33.720 --> 0:23:37.760
<v Speaker 1>by Italian newspapers that he made a comment, used a

0:23:37.880 --> 0:23:46.320
<v Speaker 1>word that is absolutely a slur, a gay slur, in

0:23:46.400 --> 0:23:50.680
<v Speaker 1>front of these bishops, and that has now gotten out right.

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<v Speaker 2>And I thought it was interesting. I guess you can't

0:23:54.240 --> 0:23:56.919
<v Speaker 2>even keep a circle of bishops tight lipped. You know,

0:23:57.000 --> 0:23:59.360
<v Speaker 2>it's a gossip is everywhere? Is that kind of amazing

0:23:59.400 --> 0:24:04.760
<v Speaker 2>that in this private, you know, bishop, you know, private

0:24:04.800 --> 0:24:07.160
<v Speaker 2>meeting there at the Vatican, that somehow it would get out,

0:24:07.160 --> 0:24:10.359
<v Speaker 2>and all of the newspapers, the Italian newspapers who cided

0:24:10.400 --> 0:24:14.200
<v Speaker 2>what the Pope said, said sources, so more than one

0:24:14.359 --> 0:24:17.640
<v Speaker 2>bishop apparently, or it got out told someone who told

0:24:17.640 --> 0:24:21.720
<v Speaker 2>someone that the Pope made this slur when referring to

0:24:23.840 --> 0:24:27.359
<v Speaker 2>not wanting gay priests or priests who identify as gay,

0:24:28.119 --> 0:24:31.240
<v Speaker 2>who have an active gay lifestyle, or who even say

0:24:31.280 --> 0:24:35.080
<v Speaker 2>that they have deep seated feelings of homosexuality should not

0:24:35.160 --> 0:24:37.560
<v Speaker 2>be allowed into the priesthood.

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<v Speaker 1>Now you got that word, because I was always fascinated

0:24:41.240 --> 0:24:44.919
<v Speaker 1>by that line, deep seated homosexual tendency. So that's what

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<v Speaker 1>it was. So we were discussing this earlier and discuss

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<v Speaker 1>whether or not we wanted to do this at the

0:24:49.680 --> 0:24:52.119
<v Speaker 1>topic on the podcast at all, and we decided no,

0:24:52.320 --> 0:24:57.720
<v Speaker 1>we didn't because sources say. We always our little warnings

0:24:57.800 --> 0:25:00.440
<v Speaker 1>go up. What sources yes, So we did and feel

0:25:00.440 --> 0:25:02.560
<v Speaker 1>comfortable talking about it when it was sources say, and

0:25:02.560 --> 0:25:05.600
<v Speaker 1>this sword da da uh. Well, the Pope has now

0:25:07.200 --> 0:25:11.360
<v Speaker 1>in just the past few hours since we came into

0:25:11.359 --> 0:25:14.840
<v Speaker 1>the studio, has put out an official apology, an apology

0:25:14.880 --> 0:25:18.640
<v Speaker 1>from the Vatican about the statement and the word that

0:25:18.680 --> 0:25:22.800
<v Speaker 1>the Pope used, however.

0:25:22.600 --> 0:25:25.600
<v Speaker 2>Robes it's oddly phrased, it's.

0:25:25.520 --> 0:25:28.959
<v Speaker 1>Odd phrased, and I quote the Pope never intended to

0:25:29.040 --> 0:25:34.680
<v Speaker 1>offend or express himself in homophobic terms, and he extends

0:25:34.720 --> 0:25:38.960
<v Speaker 1>his apologies to those who felt offended by the use

0:25:39.520 --> 0:25:45.320
<v Speaker 1>of a term as reported by others end quote.

0:25:45.560 --> 0:25:48.720
<v Speaker 2>It's not acknowledging that he said it, so it's acknowledging

0:25:48.760 --> 0:25:52.120
<v Speaker 2>that other people said he said it. And if what

0:25:52.359 --> 0:25:56.320
<v Speaker 2>people said he said offended you, he apologizes. That's I

0:25:56.359 --> 0:25:58.920
<v Speaker 2>don't know. I just think that's unnecessary. If you're gonna apologize,

0:25:59.040 --> 0:26:03.000
<v Speaker 2>just apologies. It's interesting he didn't own, he didn't deny

0:26:03.040 --> 0:26:06.840
<v Speaker 2>saying it. Obviously he wouldn't have apologized, but he's not

0:26:07.119 --> 0:26:09.240
<v Speaker 2>fully admitting that he said it, so it's I don't know,

0:26:09.320 --> 0:26:14.800
<v Speaker 2>it's a little strange. I was at first, really I

0:26:16.600 --> 0:26:20.040
<v Speaker 2>was happy to hear because this is extremely rare for

0:26:20.119 --> 0:26:23.760
<v Speaker 2>a pope to apologize for, you know, the Vatican, to

0:26:23.840 --> 0:26:26.359
<v Speaker 2>release a statement like this of apology. And I also

0:26:26.440 --> 0:26:28.480
<v Speaker 2>was hopeful because I thought, isn't that what it's all about.

0:26:28.520 --> 0:26:31.240
<v Speaker 2>We all make mistakes. The pope is said, I'm a sinner.

0:26:31.240 --> 0:26:34.720
<v Speaker 2>We're all sinners, So to hear someone apologize is so

0:26:35.200 --> 0:26:38.720
<v Speaker 2>refreshing and wonderful, coming from the position he's in to

0:26:38.800 --> 0:26:41.000
<v Speaker 2>encourage other people to do the same, to acknowledge, hey,

0:26:41.440 --> 0:26:44.159
<v Speaker 2>I shouldn't have said that. I guess I just was

0:26:44.160 --> 0:26:46.480
<v Speaker 2>a little I was disappointed that it fell short of

0:26:46.560 --> 0:26:50.960
<v Speaker 2>acknowledging that he said it, but I guess at least

0:26:50.960 --> 0:26:53.120
<v Speaker 2>something's better than nothing. I don't know how far it goes,

0:26:53.119 --> 0:26:54.760
<v Speaker 2>if it went far enough for people, I don't know

0:26:54.800 --> 0:26:57.880
<v Speaker 2>what the reaction is. But obviously this has always been

0:26:58.000 --> 0:27:02.000
<v Speaker 2>a tough topic for Catholics because I know, I personally

0:27:02.160 --> 0:27:08.119
<v Speaker 2>know and love many gay Catholics. A lot of homosexual

0:27:08.720 --> 0:27:11.080
<v Speaker 2>folks who still want to be a part of the church,

0:27:11.119 --> 0:27:14.520
<v Speaker 2>still want to be a part of a faith that

0:27:14.560 --> 0:27:17.800
<v Speaker 2>they believe in and yet somehow feel ostracized by So

0:27:17.920 --> 0:27:19.639
<v Speaker 2>I know the pope in recent years had tried to

0:27:19.880 --> 0:27:24.600
<v Speaker 2>bridge the gap, saying he would bless people who were

0:27:24.760 --> 0:27:28.520
<v Speaker 2>getting married, but not blessed the union. It was very specific.

0:27:28.520 --> 0:27:30.399
<v Speaker 2>It's everything's threading a needle.

0:27:30.720 --> 0:27:32.720
<v Speaker 1>There you go, and it's just it's.

0:27:32.600 --> 0:27:35.000
<v Speaker 2>Frustrating because it it doesn't go into full acceptance.

0:27:35.200 --> 0:27:37.679
<v Speaker 1>There we go, and therein lies the problem. A lot

0:27:37.680 --> 0:27:40.040
<v Speaker 1>of people gave Pope France has a lot of credit. Actually,

0:27:40.040 --> 0:27:43.640
<v Speaker 1>even if you don't change the church's stance on homosexuality,

0:27:43.920 --> 0:27:46.399
<v Speaker 1>you can still change the approach, you can change the

0:27:46.440 --> 0:27:48.239
<v Speaker 1>tone and how you talk about and I think he

0:27:48.320 --> 0:27:50.520
<v Speaker 1>has gotten credit a lot of credit for that. And

0:27:50.560 --> 0:27:53.439
<v Speaker 1>so here we go with something to what you were

0:27:53.480 --> 0:27:57.760
<v Speaker 1>just saying about homosexuality and gay marriage. He comes out,

0:27:57.800 --> 0:27:59.080
<v Speaker 1>he says one thing, and then the next day he

0:27:59.119 --> 0:28:01.720
<v Speaker 1>has to come back and clarify. And that is what

0:28:01.920 --> 0:28:05.960
<v Speaker 1>keeps people now like, h what is feeling better about it?

0:28:05.960 --> 0:28:08.240
<v Speaker 1>Because now he said something that a lot of people

0:28:08.480 --> 0:28:12.360
<v Speaker 1>say are absolutely wrong. He comes out and makes a statement,

0:28:12.520 --> 0:28:15.439
<v Speaker 1>but still it seems to fall short. It seems to

0:28:15.880 --> 0:28:18.119
<v Speaker 1>and I don't know any of this is lost in translation.

0:28:18.280 --> 0:28:20.800
<v Speaker 1>Some are arguing that what he said was lost in

0:28:20.840 --> 0:28:23.720
<v Speaker 1>translation because he was speaking in Italian, even though I

0:28:23.760 --> 0:28:26.480
<v Speaker 1>believe didn't he grow up in an Italian speaking household,

0:28:26.800 --> 0:28:29.320
<v Speaker 1>So they say it was a colloquialism that kind of

0:28:29.320 --> 0:28:31.879
<v Speaker 1>got lost. He didn't realize he was saying something that

0:28:31.960 --> 0:28:34.600
<v Speaker 1>was that offensive. Maybe that's the truth, But at the

0:28:34.680 --> 0:28:37.240
<v Speaker 1>end of the day, can't we give thee the benefit

0:28:37.240 --> 0:28:37.560
<v Speaker 1>of the doubt?

0:28:37.640 --> 0:28:38.040
<v Speaker 2>Or should we?

0:28:39.080 --> 0:28:39.440
<v Speaker 1>Can we?

0:28:40.000 --> 0:28:42.520
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I feel like we should hopefully give everyone

0:28:42.680 --> 0:28:44.680
<v Speaker 2>the benefit of the doubt. I mean, isn't that the

0:28:44.760 --> 0:28:47.240
<v Speaker 2>spirit of what he's trying to say? And he's been

0:28:47.400 --> 0:28:50.880
<v Speaker 2>trying to create a real feeling of unity and inclusion.

0:28:51.040 --> 0:28:55.040
<v Speaker 2>It's just tough with any religion, but especially Catholicism. It's

0:28:55.040 --> 0:28:58.360
<v Speaker 2>so storied in its history and dealing with so many,

0:28:59.520 --> 0:29:02.120
<v Speaker 2>so many issues that we don't even have to get

0:29:02.160 --> 0:29:05.880
<v Speaker 2>into here. But obviously, you know, power corrupts, and you

0:29:05.920 --> 0:29:07.400
<v Speaker 2>know there's a lot of cleaning up to do and

0:29:07.440 --> 0:29:09.600
<v Speaker 2>a lot of making amends I think to a lot

0:29:09.600 --> 0:29:12.160
<v Speaker 2>of folks who have felt offended along the way from

0:29:12.320 --> 0:29:15.920
<v Speaker 2>the LGBTQ plus community. Two women as I've talked about earlier.

0:29:15.960 --> 0:29:17.920
<v Speaker 2>So there's a lot of folks who do feel ostracized,

0:29:17.960 --> 0:29:19.480
<v Speaker 2>and I know the church knows they have to do

0:29:19.560 --> 0:29:22.600
<v Speaker 2>work to try and bring people back or at least

0:29:22.600 --> 0:29:25.440
<v Speaker 2>include people into these conversations so that they don't feel

0:29:25.480 --> 0:29:28.920
<v Speaker 2>like they're ostracized. That's been a huge problem. So anyway,

0:29:28.960 --> 0:29:32.600
<v Speaker 2>it's it's I just I was happy to see that

0:29:32.640 --> 0:29:35.320
<v Speaker 2>he apologized, but a little frustrated it the fact that

0:29:35.320 --> 0:29:35.920
<v Speaker 2>it fell short.

0:29:36.600 --> 0:29:38.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I did it feel short. But again, here's this,

0:29:39.080 --> 0:29:40.480
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. This is just one of those things

0:29:40.480 --> 0:29:42.920
<v Speaker 1>and one of these stories that you keep trying to

0:29:42.920 --> 0:29:44.440
<v Speaker 1>give somebody to have been with the doubt, but to

0:29:44.520 --> 0:29:47.520
<v Speaker 1>somebody from the LGBTQ plus community that heard it first

0:29:47.560 --> 0:29:50.160
<v Speaker 1>of all and was heard by it, and then you

0:29:50.240 --> 0:29:52.720
<v Speaker 1>have to hear the apology. But there are some who've

0:29:52.760 --> 0:29:55.720
<v Speaker 1>come out and are defending him in what he said,

0:29:55.760 --> 0:29:58.840
<v Speaker 1>and we get, but this was the guy, right Who

0:29:58.880 --> 0:29:59.560
<v Speaker 1>am I to judge?

0:30:00.000 --> 0:30:01.959
<v Speaker 2>We might to judge that was him. Yeah, and that

0:30:02.080 --> 0:30:04.560
<v Speaker 2>went a huge way, A long way, you know, I mean,

0:30:04.680 --> 0:30:08.720
<v Speaker 2>and that that has that that sentiment hopefully is something

0:30:08.760 --> 0:30:10.600
<v Speaker 2>we can build on, I guess is the best way

0:30:10.640 --> 0:30:12.480
<v Speaker 2>to put it, but.

0:30:13.720 --> 0:30:19.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well finally here, folks, we hope if you've been

0:30:19.600 --> 0:30:22.120
<v Speaker 1>listening to us here that when you finished listening to us,

0:30:22.120 --> 0:30:24.200
<v Speaker 1>you'll pick up the phone and you will really give

0:30:24.280 --> 0:30:28.240
<v Speaker 1>serious consideration to messaging someone that you have been putting

0:30:28.280 --> 0:30:31.760
<v Speaker 1>off messaging for quite some time. Robot and I've been

0:30:31.760 --> 0:30:33.800
<v Speaker 1>talking about this. I can't remember which day it was,

0:30:33.840 --> 0:30:37.000
<v Speaker 1>but you saw my mood and my tone could totally change.

0:30:37.040 --> 0:30:40.360
<v Speaker 1>I got a message last week. Wasn't last week. I

0:30:40.360 --> 0:30:42.920
<v Speaker 1>could probably look it up here, but from an old

0:30:42.960 --> 0:30:45.280
<v Speaker 1>friend in Arkansas that was telling me that one of

0:30:45.280 --> 0:30:48.680
<v Speaker 1>our colleagues had passed. And that colleague is someone that

0:30:48.720 --> 0:30:50.760
<v Speaker 1>a lot of people are familiar with from television over

0:30:50.800 --> 0:30:54.680
<v Speaker 1>the years, Alice Stewart, who was a CNN contributor, a

0:30:54.840 --> 0:30:57.880
<v Speaker 1>political commentator, and she's been doing that for many, many years,

0:30:58.040 --> 0:31:02.400
<v Speaker 1>but she also worked for Shoe Bachman's campaign, going to

0:31:02.440 --> 0:31:07.240
<v Speaker 1>Huckabees campaign, Tech Cruise's campaign. She is she has been

0:31:07.520 --> 0:31:14.880
<v Speaker 1>an absolute force in Republican politics and circles for a

0:31:14.920 --> 0:31:17.840
<v Speaker 1>long time. And I'm not sure if all of us

0:31:17.880 --> 0:31:20.280
<v Speaker 1>as have been around enough you've got a chance to

0:31:20.520 --> 0:31:22.680
<v Speaker 1>be around her, know her, or see her in some

0:31:22.720 --> 0:31:23.640
<v Speaker 1>way form of fashion.

0:31:23.760 --> 0:31:27.680
<v Speaker 2>Yes, yes, she And I hate to say this because

0:31:27.680 --> 0:31:33.000
<v Speaker 2>in this but we've called certain like she's a reasonable

0:31:33.640 --> 0:31:35.880
<v Speaker 2>like I had to say reasonable Republican. I'm not trying

0:31:35.920 --> 0:31:37.840
<v Speaker 2>to say that in any in any negative way for

0:31:37.880 --> 0:31:40.760
<v Speaker 2>other Republicans. It's just you often find people who go

0:31:40.800 --> 0:31:42.840
<v Speaker 2>on television who are on the left or the right,

0:31:42.920 --> 0:31:46.160
<v Speaker 2>and they're there to stir the pot into make incendiary

0:31:46.360 --> 0:31:49.160
<v Speaker 2>comments that a people are listening to them and react

0:31:49.160 --> 0:31:52.600
<v Speaker 2>to them, and they can build whatever social media presence

0:31:52.600 --> 0:31:54.240
<v Speaker 2>are trying to do. But it's all for show. Very

0:31:54.240 --> 0:31:55.920
<v Speaker 2>often it's not what they really feel or think. They're

0:31:55.960 --> 0:31:59.120
<v Speaker 2>not there to be reasonable. They're not there to actually compromise.

0:31:59.160 --> 0:32:01.680
<v Speaker 2>They're not there to actually to find a common ground.

0:32:01.760 --> 0:32:04.000
<v Speaker 1>They're there to be asked to come back correct right.

0:32:04.000 --> 0:32:05.720
<v Speaker 2>So that they can be you know, they can they

0:32:05.720 --> 0:32:08.280
<v Speaker 2>can bring the fire, they can they can rally the base,

0:32:08.320 --> 0:32:10.479
<v Speaker 2>they can say those things that pissed people off. And

0:32:10.560 --> 0:32:13.200
<v Speaker 2>we've seen that obviously throughout our entire career. So it

0:32:13.200 --> 0:32:15.760
<v Speaker 2>goes for both sides of the aisle. But she was

0:32:15.840 --> 0:32:20.240
<v Speaker 2>one of the really reasonable, smart, amazing ones, you know,

0:32:20.440 --> 0:32:22.479
<v Speaker 2>and she wasn't like the others, And maybe that's why

0:32:22.560 --> 0:32:24.240
<v Speaker 2>maybe some of you don't know her name because she

0:32:24.360 --> 0:32:26.120
<v Speaker 2>wasn't there to make a name for herself.

0:32:26.200 --> 0:32:29.520
<v Speaker 1>But she's been around for quite a while in Republican

0:32:29.640 --> 0:32:32.719
<v Speaker 1>circles as just being known as a great communications director

0:32:32.760 --> 0:32:35.440
<v Speaker 1>and strategist. But I loved her on television. A lot

0:32:35.440 --> 0:32:37.520
<v Speaker 1>of people did, because she was never She was always

0:32:37.560 --> 0:32:41.560
<v Speaker 1>respectful of the person sitting across the table. We can

0:32:41.600 --> 0:32:43.880
<v Speaker 1>fight all day long and disagree about some issue, but

0:32:43.920 --> 0:32:50.320
<v Speaker 1>it was never nasty. But alice for me. My second

0:32:50.400 --> 0:32:54.240
<v Speaker 1>job out of college was in Little Rock, Arkansas, at

0:32:54.280 --> 0:32:57.960
<v Speaker 1>the CBS station, but my first interview in that market

0:32:58.040 --> 0:33:00.160
<v Speaker 1>was at the NBC station. Now, have you ever heard

0:33:00.200 --> 0:33:02.640
<v Speaker 1>of anybody doing this? My interview at the NBC station.

0:33:02.720 --> 0:33:05.920
<v Speaker 1>They flew me down and I walked in. I had

0:33:05.960 --> 0:33:08.800
<v Speaker 1>the morning I went to their morning meeting. They gave

0:33:08.840 --> 0:33:12.680
<v Speaker 1>me an assignment. I had to go, handed me a

0:33:12.720 --> 0:33:15.680
<v Speaker 1>phone book and a phone, gave me an assignment, and

0:33:15.760 --> 0:33:18.000
<v Speaker 1>I was reporting for them that day. That was my interview.

0:33:18.040 --> 0:33:20.640
<v Speaker 1>Have you ever heard of that? Okay me, neither. I've

0:33:20.680 --> 0:33:21.640
<v Speaker 1>never heard that anywhere else.

0:33:21.680 --> 0:33:23.120
<v Speaker 2>And you were actually on television.

0:33:23.200 --> 0:33:26.560
<v Speaker 1>I was live on the air that day and you

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<v Speaker 1>did it from the Little Rock post office standing next

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<v Speaker 1>to a bunch of post office boy and you didn't

0:33:32.280 --> 0:33:34.320
<v Speaker 1>even have the job yet, didn't have job. I worked

0:33:34.320 --> 0:33:38.800
<v Speaker 1>that day for free. I didn't know. So this is

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<v Speaker 1>not okay.

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<v Speaker 2>That's never happened in any of the job interviews.

0:33:42.200 --> 0:33:44.480
<v Speaker 1>That was my interview. But I went into that interview

0:33:44.560 --> 0:33:47.520
<v Speaker 1>that day sitting in that newsroom. I remember where I

0:33:47.560 --> 0:33:51.720
<v Speaker 1>was sitting, phone book and a rotary phone, whatever it was.

0:33:53.040 --> 0:33:55.840
<v Speaker 1>And sister, that first one that came over and was

0:33:55.920 --> 0:33:59.920
<v Speaker 1>kind to me was Alice Stewart, who was a reporter

0:34:00.360 --> 0:34:03.600
<v Speaker 1>at ka r K at the time, the NBC station.

0:34:04.160 --> 0:34:06.280
<v Speaker 1>So I did my reporting that day. She was cool

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<v Speaker 1>as all get out. I was on the air because

0:34:08.800 --> 0:34:12.600
<v Speaker 1>the reporter, the news director from the CBS station said,

0:34:12.640 --> 0:34:15.880
<v Speaker 1>hey man, he called me, let me a message. I

0:34:15.920 --> 0:34:18.200
<v Speaker 1>got your tape here. I just looked up and saw

0:34:18.239 --> 0:34:19.400
<v Speaker 1>you on TV at KRK.

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<v Speaker 2>Please don't do.

0:34:20.719 --> 0:34:24.200
<v Speaker 1>Anything before you come talk to me. That's a true story.

0:34:24.320 --> 0:34:27.600
<v Speaker 2>So their experiment blew up in their face and got

0:34:27.640 --> 0:34:28.880
<v Speaker 2>me another job at the competitor.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, but that put me in a position to where

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<v Speaker 1>now I'm not working with Alice Stewart. She's my competitor

0:34:37.480 --> 0:34:40.880
<v Speaker 1>for my years there, and she and I got close,

0:34:41.480 --> 0:34:46.040
<v Speaker 1>and that was back in two thousand, two thousand, Yeah,

0:34:46.080 --> 0:34:50.160
<v Speaker 1>and we remained friends to the day she passed, which

0:34:50.200 --> 0:34:52.160
<v Speaker 1>was very recently. If you haven't hear, she was just

0:34:52.239 --> 0:34:56.360
<v Speaker 1>out on a walk and had some type of medical emergency.

0:34:56.400 --> 0:35:01.160
<v Speaker 1>No foul play or anything like that, so expected, but

0:35:01.400 --> 0:35:04.840
<v Speaker 1>she was one that I am. I'm glad. There are

0:35:04.840 --> 0:35:07.040
<v Speaker 1>a bunch of friends of mine robes right now who,

0:35:07.640 --> 0:35:09.360
<v Speaker 1>after all that you and I have gone through the

0:35:09.400 --> 0:35:12.239
<v Speaker 1>past year and a half, they have gotten messages from

0:35:12.280 --> 0:35:17.040
<v Speaker 1>me saying, hey, don't want anything. But I've learned over

0:35:17.040 --> 0:35:20.000
<v Speaker 1>the past year or so that when somebody's on my mind,

0:35:20.200 --> 0:35:23.560
<v Speaker 1>I do not hesitate to reach out and say hello.

0:35:24.280 --> 0:35:27.680
<v Speaker 1>A bunch of people have gotten that message. And you

0:35:27.719 --> 0:35:31.080
<v Speaker 1>know what, Alice got that message from me. She got

0:35:31.120 --> 0:35:34.120
<v Speaker 1>it in March and we went back and forth a

0:35:34.160 --> 0:35:35.880
<v Speaker 1>little bit and she was having a busy day with

0:35:35.920 --> 0:35:37.840
<v Speaker 1>something Trump related. But I saw her on and just

0:35:37.880 --> 0:35:42.600
<v Speaker 1>reached out to say hello, And it's happened. It seems

0:35:42.600 --> 0:35:48.520
<v Speaker 1>like a lot lately, but we just lose people on

0:35:48.600 --> 0:35:49.600
<v Speaker 1>the spot on a dime.

0:35:50.640 --> 0:35:52.480
<v Speaker 2>Their dog is walking a dog.

0:35:52.320 --> 0:35:56.799
<v Speaker 1>Fifty eight years old, healthy marathon, her and she is

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<v Speaker 1>actually one robes. Don't be offended. She was the first

0:36:00.200 --> 0:36:03.360
<v Speaker 1>friend I had who was actually a marathon hew. And

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<v Speaker 1>to this day, if you showed me a lineup of feet,

0:36:07.320 --> 0:36:10.360
<v Speaker 1>I could pick out Alice's feet. I say that because

0:36:10.400 --> 0:36:12.680
<v Speaker 1>I had a party at her place once over at

0:36:12.680 --> 0:36:14.480
<v Speaker 1>her a place, she was talking to me about running,

0:36:15.080 --> 0:36:16.879
<v Speaker 1>and she showed me her feet.

0:36:17.120 --> 0:36:19.759
<v Speaker 2>And anyone who is a marathoner knows exactly what you're

0:36:19.840 --> 0:36:20.440
<v Speaker 2>talking about.

0:36:20.520 --> 0:36:22.760
<v Speaker 1>And I said, holy hell, I will never be a runner.

0:36:23.920 --> 0:36:26.040
<v Speaker 1>But you know what I sit here now with what

0:36:26.160 --> 0:36:32.600
<v Speaker 1>two miss now yep, And if I could do anything

0:36:32.680 --> 0:36:37.400
<v Speaker 1>right now, I would show Alice Stewart my feet. If

0:36:37.440 --> 0:36:40.160
<v Speaker 1>I could do anything, I would just do anything to

0:36:40.160 --> 0:36:42.960
<v Speaker 1>be able to do that. So she was a gem.

0:36:43.320 --> 0:36:46.440
<v Speaker 1>And man, it sucks to lose somebody, but something like that.

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<v Speaker 1>So we hope folks do not hesit day for a second.

0:36:50.440 --> 0:36:54.160
<v Speaker 1>There is somebody at the bottom of your messages that

0:36:54.239 --> 0:36:57.719
<v Speaker 1>has a just sitting there you never responded. Scroll down.

0:36:58.200 --> 0:37:01.000
<v Speaker 1>They just make today the day. Don't don't hesitate to

0:37:02.040 --> 0:37:04.400
<v Speaker 1>reach out and just say hello to somebody you do

0:37:04.480 --> 0:37:04.839
<v Speaker 1>not know.

0:37:05.280 --> 0:37:06.839
<v Speaker 2>And I didn't know that you had just reached out

0:37:06.920 --> 0:37:09.960
<v Speaker 2>to her and that's such an amazing feeling to know

0:37:10.040 --> 0:37:12.279
<v Speaker 2>that she knew that you were thinking of her and

0:37:12.320 --> 0:37:14.919
<v Speaker 2>that you were on her mind. She was on your mind,

0:37:14.960 --> 0:37:17.000
<v Speaker 2>and you would never have known that that would be

0:37:17.040 --> 0:37:19.279
<v Speaker 2>the last How many times in this past year have

0:37:19.360 --> 0:37:22.239
<v Speaker 2>I looked back at the last message, never knowing it

0:37:22.280 --> 0:37:24.480
<v Speaker 2>was going to be the last message? And it's just

0:37:24.960 --> 0:37:27.719
<v Speaker 2>every time you see the headlines. We had a lot

0:37:27.719 --> 0:37:31.600
<v Speaker 2>of celebrities this past few days that just met untimely

0:37:31.640 --> 0:37:33.719
<v Speaker 2>deaths at way too young of an age. And it's

0:37:33.760 --> 0:37:37.080
<v Speaker 2>just a constant reminder to me in my circle, and

0:37:37.440 --> 0:37:40.759
<v Speaker 2>I love the impetus to other people to think about

0:37:40.800 --> 0:37:42.720
<v Speaker 2>it in that way, like you just can't take people

0:37:42.760 --> 0:37:46.520
<v Speaker 2>for granted and assume that we've got tomorrow. So yeah,

0:37:46.560 --> 0:37:47.840
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to do that when we get off the

0:37:47.840 --> 0:37:49.160
<v Speaker 2>air and just check in.

0:37:49.360 --> 0:37:51.239
<v Speaker 1>Do you know who already? You're going to check in.

0:37:51.160 --> 0:37:54.040
<v Speaker 2>With my mom? It's been a while, No, you know what?

0:37:54.080 --> 0:37:56.160
<v Speaker 2>I feel bad. I start to realize when it goes

0:37:56.160 --> 0:37:59.200
<v Speaker 2>more than a week and I haven't called her, it's

0:37:59.239 --> 0:38:01.360
<v Speaker 2>on my mind, And so I'm going to do that today.

0:38:01.480 --> 0:38:06.359
<v Speaker 1>Andy, who's on your mind? My No, No, Sydney, who's

0:38:06.400 --> 0:38:09.759
<v Speaker 1>on your mind and Grandpa are all right, our two

0:38:09.760 --> 0:38:11.640
<v Speaker 1>producers in the room telling us they're going to reach

0:38:11.680 --> 0:38:12.480
<v Speaker 1>out to you.

0:38:15.320 --> 0:38:15.600
<v Speaker 3>Know what.

0:38:16.280 --> 0:38:21.439
<v Speaker 1>Lenny's on my mind, Byron's on my mind. Now talk

0:38:21.480 --> 0:38:24.520
<v Speaker 1>to Montel this morning. There's several folks that, oh, I

0:38:24.520 --> 0:38:26.360
<v Speaker 1>need to, I need to, I need to I need to.

0:38:26.400 --> 0:38:29.440
<v Speaker 1>Oh I meanto, Uh that's no good, do it now,

0:38:29.640 --> 0:38:33.160
<v Speaker 1>got to do it now. So, folks, we appreciate you

0:38:33.160 --> 0:38:35.719
<v Speaker 1>always for spending some time here with us. By all

0:38:35.800 --> 0:38:38.960
<v Speaker 1>means right into us on our Instagram, at Amy and

0:38:39.040 --> 0:38:41.319
<v Speaker 1>TJ Podcast to let us know where we should go

0:38:41.360 --> 0:38:49.120
<v Speaker 1>on vacation. You folks who prefer warm, quiet destinations. I

0:38:49.200 --> 0:38:52.600
<v Speaker 1>really would appreciate you chiming in. We should let people

0:38:52.600 --> 0:38:53.640
<v Speaker 1>just vote on where we're going.

0:38:54.360 --> 0:38:57.319
<v Speaker 2>Maybe, yeah, we already bought the plane tickets, but maybe

0:38:57.320 --> 0:38:58.239
<v Speaker 2>next time we did.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, all right, folks, let's talk the also sh