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Speaker 1: since this is where car owners the world overturned to

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Speaker 1: on here. Renee, Welcome to the car Doctor. How can

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Speaker 1: Elon Musk, let's go right to the big fish. Would

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Speaker 1: I don't have a way of controlling that on or

424
00:23:56,200 --> 00:24:00,760
Speaker 1: and but and I've been out of the this long

425
00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:06,440
Speaker 1: enough that I don't have the controls or I can

426
00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:13,159
Speaker 1: actually exercise these switching on that canister. So hang on

427
00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:16,760
Speaker 1: a second, wondering if there was a short cut way

428
00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:22,280
Speaker 1: of testing that canister. So hang on a second here, Bob.

429
00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:26,119
Speaker 1: So if and listen to what I say, if you

430
00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:31,480
Speaker 1: put smoke through that system, all right, and you have

431
00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:36,800
Speaker 1: no leaks and you're not manually closing the vent valve

432
00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:41,119
Speaker 1: either by scan tool or applying a power and and

433
00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:45,080
Speaker 1: and grounding the solenoid to electrically close it, if you

434
00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:50,760
Speaker 1: have no leaks. When you smoke the system, you're either

435
00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:53,800
Speaker 1: not allowing smoke to reach the back of the vehicle

436
00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:56,640
Speaker 1: to the vent valve or the vent valve is bad.

437
00:24:57,040 --> 00:25:00,840
Speaker 1: A vent valve is normally open when the vehicle is off.

438
00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:04,240
Speaker 1: If the vent valve wasn't open when the vehicle is off,

439
00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:07,159
Speaker 1: it wouldn't release pressure in the system. It has to

440
00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:11,560
Speaker 1: be it's it's it's filtered through the charcoal canister, but

441
00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:14,000
Speaker 1: it wouldn't allow pressure to release through the system, and

442
00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:17,040
Speaker 1: the gas tank would will not explode, but it would

443
00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:19,560
Speaker 1: just build up excess pressure and somewhere along the way

444
00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:22,800
Speaker 1: something's gonna pop. So if your question is how do

445
00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:25,680
Speaker 1: you test the vent valve, my first question to you

446
00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:28,359
Speaker 1: is you need a scan tool or you know, powering

447
00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:31,320
Speaker 1: ground and that stuff. My question to you is how

448
00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:36,560
Speaker 1: do you verify I'm sorry, how will you um control

449
00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:39,800
Speaker 1: it to be able to test it? Um? I want

450
00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:42,080
Speaker 1: to make sure you're doing the smoke test right? Does

451
00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:48,640
Speaker 1: Does that makes sense to you? Yes? And that I'm

452
00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:53,280
Speaker 1: just saying that, you know, I retired from you know,

453
00:25:53,840 --> 00:26:00,560
Speaker 1: uh repair shop business for you know, so you know,

454
00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:05,680
Speaker 1: so that's past my scan tools that I am don't

455
00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:10,800
Speaker 1: get me to the level where I can actually observe

456
00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:14,160
Speaker 1: it on the scope and switch it on and off.

457
00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:18,520
Speaker 1: Do this, then do this? Then all right, um, now

458
00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:22,600
Speaker 1: you'll need a lift. Do you have access to a lift? No,

459
00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:26,280
Speaker 1: I'm totally out. I might have to do a you know,

460
00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:33,119
Speaker 1: uh grudge, you know, shade tree me cadding. Okay, so

461
00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:38,000
Speaker 1: you're tapping smoke in where at the test part up front? Yes?

462
00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:45,760
Speaker 1: All right, the green cap or the blue cap? Oh jeez,

463
00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:48,280
Speaker 1: well what colors the cap of the test part that

464
00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:53,320
Speaker 1: you're taking apart? Um? Are you coming in through the

465
00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:59,760
Speaker 1: purge valve? I was coming in through up front under

466
00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:04,000
Speaker 1: the engine, you know, in compartment and putting that into

467
00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:07,760
Speaker 1: the port. Okay, you've got to know. First of all,

468
00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:10,760
Speaker 1: you've got to know which port you're going into. Not

469
00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:13,359
Speaker 1: every line up there leads back to the gas tank.

470
00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:15,560
Speaker 1: You know, you want to look for the purge valve.

471
00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:18,600
Speaker 1: It's usually signified by a green test port with a

472
00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:20,600
Speaker 1: straighter in it. You would take the straighter out. It

473
00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:23,440
Speaker 1: has reverse threads on it. And you want to apply

474
00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:28,200
Speaker 1: smoke using an adapter. If you're doing that and the

475
00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:32,000
Speaker 1: vehicle doesn't admit smoke from the rear. That means the

476
00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:34,800
Speaker 1: line is restricted somehow all the way back, which I've

477
00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:38,600
Speaker 1: never really seen, or the canister is saturated, which is

478
00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:41,800
Speaker 1: possible and it's blocking smoke, or the vent valve has

479
00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:46,600
Speaker 1: mechanically failed. Make sure you're doing the smoke test correct first.

480
00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:49,720
Speaker 1: Make sure you're going into the right test port. And

481
00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:52,240
Speaker 1: it may be beyond your means. You do need a lift.

482
00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:53,560
Speaker 1: It's nice to have a lift to get it up

483
00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:55,920
Speaker 1: in the air and take a look, and then you

484
00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:59,480
Speaker 1: can kind of run that test accurately. Do that and

485
00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:01,520
Speaker 1: then give me a shout back. I'm runing any in

486
00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:17,080
Speaker 1: the car Doctor will return right after this run named

487
00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:21,640
Speaker 1: car doctor at zero zero, you know, just real quick

488
00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:24,480
Speaker 1: and esoteric thought big word there, right, Tom, esoteric. I'm

489
00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:26,000
Speaker 1: not sure what it means, but it sounds good for

490
00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:28,520
Speaker 1: the moment um when you learn the big word. Well,

491
00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:31,960
Speaker 1: I read it sometimes, you know, really read. I've been

492
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:34,320
Speaker 1: known to read. I have to read. So if I

493
00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:36,920
Speaker 1: can't read, then I can't fix cars because I can't

494
00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:38,400
Speaker 1: find the shop. I have to look for the fifty

495
00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:40,600
Speaker 1: nine on the side of the building, so I can't

496
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:42,040
Speaker 1: find the shop. When you get in the car and

497
00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:44,920
Speaker 1: drive there, Well, that's you know, sometimes finding the shop

498
00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:47,960
Speaker 1: is half the challenge. Um, I'm on autopilot. Listen, I

499
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:49,240
Speaker 1: got news for you. I got at the end of

500
00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:51,040
Speaker 1: the street. I make a right, a left, two rights

501
00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:52,560
Speaker 1: and a left, and I'm there. Sometimes I do it.

502
00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:54,480
Speaker 1: I go for milk, and I end up and i

503
00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:56,160
Speaker 1: end up in Waltock and I'm not supposed to be

504
00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:59,480
Speaker 1: there because it's just the autopilot, you know, It's just. Um.

505
00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:03,040
Speaker 1: I was thinking the other day with technology and the

506
00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:06,479
Speaker 1: advent of everything that's going on, and how cars are changing.

507
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:09,640
Speaker 1: You know, you think about the things that everybody says

508
00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:11,720
Speaker 1: to you. You know, my dad taught me this, or

509
00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:14,840
Speaker 1: my mom taught me this about cars. You don't hear

510
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:17,840
Speaker 1: that as much anymore, do you, because it doesn't really apply.

511
00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:20,400
Speaker 1: Does that mean the next generation of people that operate

512
00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:22,760
Speaker 1: a transportation device, which is what they're gonna be, not

513
00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:25,400
Speaker 1: just cars, they won't be able to say, well, Mom

514
00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:28,080
Speaker 1: told me, when the electric car does this, this is

515
00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:30,080
Speaker 1: what I need to do. Right, We're gonna lose all that,

516
00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:32,640
Speaker 1: all that, all those memories of mom and dad just

517
00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:35,680
Speaker 1: won't exist. Um. Just I don't know, I'm rambling. I

518
00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:38,880
Speaker 1: just thinking of how it's gonna change society. It's going

519
00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:42,720
Speaker 1: to be such a societal impact. Societal there's another big word.

520
00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:44,640
Speaker 1: Let's get over to Dan in Wisconsin, see what kind

521
00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:46,680
Speaker 1: of big words we can use on him. Dan, you're ready,

522
00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:49,920
Speaker 1: I've got my vocabulary all set up. Rondaninian at your service, sir.

523
00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:55,440
Speaker 1: I have a two four Chevy and palace to dance.

524
00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:58,920
Speaker 1: We played four leader engine had it parked over the winter.

525
00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:01,520
Speaker 1: It appears to Earl's gunner in the hood and chewed

526
00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:05,320
Speaker 1: off about a three intersection of a wire harness located

527
00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:11,600
Speaker 1: by the driver's side. Real well, but twelve wires in

528
00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:17,520
Speaker 1: that bundle, and they're similar colors, like there's four greens

529
00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:21,200
Speaker 1: and four purples from white and thinks. Yeah, so I

530
00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:23,000
Speaker 1: don't know which one is going to which. If I

531
00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:26,560
Speaker 1: tried take and patch them together, that bundle goes into

532
00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:29,400
Speaker 1: you know, it's in a plastic time to it. That

533
00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:33,680
Speaker 1: goes into some other down towards the lower part of

534
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:36,640
Speaker 1: the motor, goes into some other bundles, and then I

535
00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:39,560
Speaker 1: don't know where it all goes from there. Just trying

536
00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:43,600
Speaker 1: to and I'll figure out any options. Uh, you know,

537
00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:46,800
Speaker 1: I imagine they just have to take the whole thing apart,

538
00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:49,840
Speaker 1: and there's I don't know, it's all one bundle. It

539
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:52,840
Speaker 1: had a label on it about zero three four four

540
00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:58,040
Speaker 1: that bundle did but most of the label too, right, yes,

541
00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:00,640
Speaker 1: part of it. And then down below there was one

542
00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:04,600
Speaker 1: that has a zero one three four four and then

543
00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:07,480
Speaker 1: zero three four four. What kind of goes into But

544
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:11,280
Speaker 1: and all that stuff is engineering numbers DAN and assembly

545
00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:13,680
Speaker 1: line numbers. They won't mean anything to us or to

546
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:16,520
Speaker 1: the shop. You know. A couple of thoughts. Number one,

547
00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:21,080
Speaker 1: if you talked to your insurance company, Um, no, I

548
00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:23,960
Speaker 1: have not. I talked to him about toying in case

549
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:25,960
Speaker 1: I had a toy to a shop, but not talked

550
00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:32,520
Speaker 1: to him about did you tell them why I did?

551
00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:35,880
Speaker 1: But uh, I guess I never asked them, you know,

552
00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:38,400
Speaker 1: with a cover or whatever? You know, because I've seen

553
00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:41,000
Speaker 1: I don't listen. I don't claim to know auto insurance

554
00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:43,160
Speaker 1: or homeowners insurance, and I surely don't know it for

555
00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:46,400
Speaker 1: every state in the Union. But you know, I have

556
00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:51,080
Speaker 1: heard cases were either under homeowners or automobile coverage, one

557
00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:54,920
Speaker 1: or the other. Sometimes damage like that where animals come

558
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:58,000
Speaker 1: in and chew up the wiring harness is covered, so

559
00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:01,280
Speaker 1: it might pay to usk. Uh you know, there might

560
00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:03,640
Speaker 1: be there might be a deductible. But listen, all they

561
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:06,960
Speaker 1: can do is say no, uh, you know that's number one.

562
00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:09,080
Speaker 1: Number two. It's got to get to a shop to

563
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:11,600
Speaker 1: allow them to sort it out. It maybe that they

564
00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:14,640
Speaker 1: can buy a short bundle. Maybe it's a short harness

565
00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:17,480
Speaker 1: leading up to the convenience center. There's a convenience fuse

566
00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:20,480
Speaker 1: block I think on the left side of the engine compartment,

567
00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:24,000
Speaker 1: and they might be able to buy just that short

568
00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:27,520
Speaker 1: fuse assembly just that, I'm sorry, just that short harness

569
00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:30,240
Speaker 1: assembly and um they can take it from there. But

570
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:32,080
Speaker 1: I would tell you to have a professional look at it.

571
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:35,320
Speaker 1: Don't try doing it yourself. Wiring has to be precise

572
00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:39,400
Speaker 1: and for the future. Honda makes something called rodent tape.

573
00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:41,880
Speaker 1: It's laced with pepper. You can lace some of the

574
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:44,840
Speaker 1: wiring harness with that available on Amazon, available at your

575
00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:48,120
Speaker 1: local Honda dealer, Rodent tape, and it will prevent it

576
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:51,000
Speaker 1: from happening again. It puts black pepper right on the tape.

577
00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:53,440
Speaker 1: Good luck to you, Dan. I appreciate, I appreciate what

578
00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:54,960
Speaker 1: you're trying to do, and I'm sorry to hear it.

579
00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:56,800
Speaker 1: I'm on a any in the car doctor. I'm back

580
00:32:56,920 --> 00:33:12,240
Speaker 1: right after this. I think one of the things you

581
00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:15,480
Speaker 1: have to accept in order to repair is that change

582
00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:19,400
Speaker 1: is always ongoing, and it's a constant. It's always there.

583
00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:25,400
Speaker 1: We had a GMC pickup truck with a six six

584
00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:28,240
Speaker 1: diesel in the shop this week and the check engine

585
00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:31,800
Speaker 1: light had come on and scanned it and it was

586
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:35,440
Speaker 1: setting a P zero, which maybe you've had this fault,

587
00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:39,480
Speaker 1: it's pretty common. It talks about a P zero, talks

588
00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:43,760
Speaker 1: about range performance, how that vehicle responds from the moment

589
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:47,120
Speaker 1: it starts until it hits operating temperature, how fast the

590
00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:49,800
Speaker 1: rate of rise? I always I always a can it

591
00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:53,000
Speaker 1: and compare it to when the heating guy comes out

592
00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:54,960
Speaker 1: to the house and they talk about rate of rise.

593
00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:57,320
Speaker 1: You know, how effective is the heating system, is the

594
00:33:57,360 --> 00:34:00,160
Speaker 1: baseboard laid out right? Is it working properly as the

595
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:02,000
Speaker 1: hot air ducks doing what they're supposed to do, and

596
00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:05,840
Speaker 1: so on, rate of rise and overall performance. Well, the

597
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:10,640
Speaker 1: kicker on this GMC is it's not one thermis stat

598
00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:12,960
Speaker 1: because I verified it never went over a D sixty

599
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:16,320
Speaker 1: one degrees and spec according to the motorad dot com website,

600
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:19,399
Speaker 1: is one eight one five is where the stats start

601
00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:22,000
Speaker 1: to open. Yeah, and that's why I wanted to mention

602
00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:24,760
Speaker 1: this right. We talked about how things evolve and change

603
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:27,400
Speaker 1: because we don't realize that. You know, there's always one

604
00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:31,480
Speaker 1: thermostat uh GMC like a lot of the six six

605
00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:35,320
Speaker 1: deesels has two thermostats. And the customer didn't believe me

606
00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:37,239
Speaker 1: at first. I took him out to motorad dot com.

607
00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:40,040
Speaker 1: I showed him the kit. Here's the two thermostats. The

608
00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:42,680
Speaker 1: nice thing about the motor Rad website is they show

609
00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:46,200
Speaker 1: you the thermostat specifications. They show you a picture of

610
00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:48,560
Speaker 1: the stat you know what it looks like. Sold, the

611
00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:51,239
Speaker 1: job went well, motorad dot com. I'm ronan Ady in

612
00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:53,359
Speaker 1: the car doctor, reminding you this time until the next time,

613
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:56,960
Speaker 1: like every time, the mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless. Let's

614
00:34:56,960 --> 00:35:07,000
Speaker 1: see you. She was star