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Speaker 1: Hey everybody, It's Tuesday, December seventeenth, twenty twenty four. Welcome

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Speaker 1: to the NFL Fantasy Football Show. We're just trying to

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Speaker 1: survive in advance. It's me and your man, MG Marcus Grant,

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Speaker 1: joined by Michael f. Florio and Lakwan Jones Fellas. We

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Speaker 1: are into Week sixteen, which once upon a time would

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Speaker 1: have been Championship week.

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Speaker 2: I guess that those days are further and further in

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Speaker 2: the rearview.

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Speaker 1: Mirror though, right that this was championship week, that's just

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Speaker 1: a semi finals.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we're probably closer to getting another game added.

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Speaker 4: To the schedule than we ever are going back.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we're not going back now.

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Speaker 1: But that's a whole that's a whole other conversation, Like

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Speaker 1: what happens when they eventually go to like the eighteen

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Speaker 1: game regular season, like and then fantasy just goes that

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Speaker 1: much longer, Like I don't know, at some point there's

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Speaker 1: critical mass you just wonder about.

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Speaker 2: But I think this is the.

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Speaker 5: Max players getting hurt every single week. Who are you

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Speaker 5: going to have by week eighteen?

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Speaker 3: Like, come on, they'd have to add a second by

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Speaker 3: week I feel like the answer to all your questions

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Speaker 3: is money.

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Speaker 1: Yep, that's it. That's it, Like, that's that's the that

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Speaker 1: the answer to all your questions is money. And then

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Speaker 1: the official in the middle of the year.

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Speaker 3: And every team gets off that week, and then that's

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Speaker 3: like a natural breakpoint.

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Speaker 1: We can also probably just generally do away with all

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Speaker 1: star games across all sports. But again that's another conversation

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Speaker 1: for another show. That's another show. I mean, yeah, that's it.

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Speaker 1: Or just you know what, a name of name an

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Speaker 1: all Star team, give them a bonus, give them a

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Speaker 1: trip to Hawaii or something.

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Speaker 5: And athletes compete against other athletes, like let's get creative,

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Speaker 5: like Tyreek Hill versus Christian Ronaldo in a forty time

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Speaker 5: who who knows who wins?

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Speaker 2: That interesting? Tyreek would smoke Christiano Ronaldo.

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Speaker 1: Anyway, we got some big questions for week sixteen and beyond.

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Speaker 1: We'll have our waiver Wire deep dives as well, But

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Speaker 1: whyt to get started with the big questions because I

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Speaker 1: usually say for a week, you know, sixteen and beyond.

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Speaker 1: This time, I just decided to go beyond, right, I Mean,

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Speaker 1: for a lot of people, the fantasy playoffs were over.

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Speaker 2: Your fantasy season is over.

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Speaker 1: If that's the case for you, by the way, thank

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Speaker 1: you for still hanging out with us and listening to

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Speaker 1: the show. But I think we can start kind of

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Speaker 1: pivoting toward the long view, looking toward twenty twenty five

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Speaker 1: and that sort of thing. So start with you, Floria

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Speaker 1: on this one. Jamar Chase has obviously been phenomenal on

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Speaker 1: all year. Now. I know there are still some contract

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Speaker 1: issues that need to be worked out, but let's just

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Speaker 1: assume everything works out. He stays in Cincinnati, he and

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Speaker 1: Joe Burrow stay together. Is Jamar Chase the undisputed one

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Speaker 1: dot one next season?

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Speaker 3: I would say yes, but they'll they'll there's always gonna

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Speaker 3: be contrarian people out there who want to argue. And

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Speaker 3: I do get it because, like I get the thinking

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Speaker 3: of you don't want to draft the guy who was

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Speaker 3: last year's like video game cheat code player. You want

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Speaker 3: to try to find the like cause last year that

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Speaker 3: was Ceede, Lamb and Tyree killing. Now it's Jamar Chase.

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Speaker 3: It's it's very rarely the same player in back to

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Speaker 3: back years. But what Jamar Chase is doing right now

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Speaker 3: is historic fifth player ever with one hundred catches, fourteen

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Speaker 3: hundred yards fifteen or more receiving touchdowns. The other four

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Speaker 3: are Jerry Rice, Randy Moss, Marvin Harrison Senior, and Cooper

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Speaker 3: Cup And Chase has three games left to play, so like, yeah,

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Speaker 3: plus de Higgins might be gone next year. Their defense

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Speaker 3: is still probably going to be poor, but Joe Burrow

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Speaker 3: is still gonna be throwing it to him and just

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Speaker 3: having eyes locked in on Chase. So yeah, I am

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Speaker 3: probably going to take him one overall in any league that.

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Speaker 2: I have first pick.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Lakwan, is there anybody else at this point

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Speaker 1: that you feel like is in the conversation for that

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Speaker 4: Absolutely not.

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Speaker 5: The gap is wide right now as of today when

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Speaker 5: you look at it. I mean, Jamar Chase has been

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Speaker 5: doing historical things like Florio said, and honestly, I feel

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Speaker 5: much safer with him to begin with going into this

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Speaker 5: like I feel like Jamar Chase is on that tier.

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Speaker 5: Like I know we'd like to compare him with Justin Jefferson,

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Speaker 5: but no, he's really him, Like he's really outside of

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Speaker 5: the Justin Jefferson conversation because honestly, this season and then

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Speaker 5: the next season, this is probably the only time I'll

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Speaker 5: go back to back in the first round with Jamar

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Speaker 5: Chase because I love all my teams that I got

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Speaker 5: him on this year.

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Speaker 1: I mean, right now, you look at non quarterbacks, it's

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Speaker 1: Chase that's number one. He is about twenty five points

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Speaker 1: clear of Saquon Barkley, and those are the only two

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Speaker 1: non quarterbacks in the top eight of Fantasy point scoring

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Speaker 1: at this point. And he's just been so good. The

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Speaker 1: ceiling is so high, and the floor is still pretty

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Speaker 1: high too. Like you know, I think you to your point, Florio,

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Speaker 1: I think you will have some contrarians.

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Speaker 2: But I think that's.

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Speaker 1: Also a function of us talking about this in the offseason,

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Speaker 1: Like you know, we'll start having this conversation. I'm sure

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Speaker 1: after the Super Bowl, and then by the time we

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Speaker 1: get to August, everybody's gonna be tired of just saying

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Speaker 1: Jamar Chase. So somebody's gonna pop up in there with

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Speaker 1: an alternative idea, mostly because we get bored. We get

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Speaker 1: bored and we need other things to talk about. But

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Speaker 1: I think I think most people are gonna look at

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Speaker 1: this and it's probably gonna be chased heavily at the top.

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Speaker 4: Pooka could be.

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Speaker 3: In I think Nico Collins will be another one. People

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Speaker 3: start pushing up.

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Speaker 2: I just.

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Speaker 1: That's a whole, that's a different that's an interesting conversation too.

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Speaker 1: I like Nico Collins, but man a number one overall

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Speaker 1: for Nico Collins.

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Speaker 4: That I wouldn't rich. But he's gonna be a fantasy darling.

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Speaker 1: I think, yeah, No, I think that part is true

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Speaker 1: for sure. Lakwan is Josh Jacob's a first round pick

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Speaker 1: next year.

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Speaker 5: Oh no, no, no, no, no, I trust him. I

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Speaker 5: can't trust him personally. I mean he's burned fans, fantasy

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Speaker 5: fans before in the past. We all remember that Instagram

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Speaker 5: you know he said he was injured not playing, Like

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Speaker 5: I could never trust him again. And on see, I'm done,

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Speaker 5: like literally stamp this today. I'm done taking running backs

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Speaker 5: in the first round. Like I've learned my lesson this

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Speaker 5: year in many leagues that I took Bjeon, I took Bristol,

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Speaker 5: I even took CMC one on one in one league

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Speaker 5: and I completely just fell flate, flat on flat on

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Speaker 5: my face. So like, I'm done with the running backs

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Speaker 5: in the first round. So no, Josh Jacobs is not

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Speaker 5: the first round.

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Speaker 1: Even if you're sitting at like eight nine and Jamior

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Speaker 1: Gibbs is sitting there, or or Derrick Henry is sitting there.

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Speaker 2: You're not gonna do it?

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Speaker 5: Huh No, No, because I have to stick to my guns. No, Nope,

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Speaker 5: I got to stick to my guns. I have to

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Speaker 5: go wide receiver. All my leagues that I've gone heavy

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Speaker 5: wide receiver in those first couple of rounds are thriving,

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Speaker 5: are thriving. In the running backs. I've just kind of

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Speaker 5: mid It's just mid tier. I mean, Bijon I think

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Speaker 5: was like one of my heaviest like pushes at the

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Speaker 5: end of the summer where I'm like, know what, I

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Speaker 5: could see him as the one on one and then

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Speaker 5: he's just been okay.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I think that's fair. And it's it's

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Speaker 1: weird because Bjon was the one that we had kind

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Speaker 1: of questions. We're like, well, Tyler Algiers there, he's gonna

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Speaker 1: get some opportunity. It was Breece Hall that were like, well, yeah,

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Speaker 1: that Breecee's he's full speed of handling. Nobody's gonna take

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Speaker 5: Was taking opportunities early.

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Speaker 2: It was just like, what's happening. Yeah, I don't know,

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Speaker 2: it's been it's been tough, but all right, I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: hold you too.

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to remember this and hold you to it,

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Speaker 1: like in case you start getting crazy, because.

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Speaker 3: My season has been the exact opposite of la Kwan's,

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Speaker 3: Like I went zero RB in almost all of my teams,

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Speaker 3: and I'm like, I hate this.

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Speaker 4: Year that I'm having right now.

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Speaker 3: So it's it's very funny how he went very differently

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Speaker 3: and we kind of had similar seasons. But yeah, no,

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Speaker 3: I'm I'm also out on I would not take this

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Speaker 3: stats and his usage and everything, you could make the

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Speaker 3: case for Josh Jacobs as the first round pick. But

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Speaker 3: I would never like Lakwan, I would never take come

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Speaker 3: in the first round.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, here's the thing with your RB, like

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Speaker 1: it is, you have to pick the right running backs,

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Speaker 1: which is not necessarily a guarantee, right, Like you can

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Speaker 1: have a bunch of targets, but if they don't perform,

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Speaker 1: then the whole thing just completely falls apart.

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Speaker 2: I guess that that applies to every strategy.

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Speaker 3: I guess it's I tweeted that it hasn't been a

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Speaker 3: great year for zero RB and someone was like, well

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Speaker 3: it was if you have Chase Brown or Rico Dowell,

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Speaker 3: where I'm like.

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Speaker 4: Okay, cool two.

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Speaker 3: There's been a couple others that have hit, but like,

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Speaker 3: it's not like it normally is.

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Speaker 1: Now and it has not exploded the way the way

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Speaker 1: it really does in the past. Florida is Baker Mayfield

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Speaker 1: the QB six in drafts. I was gonna say, originally,

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Speaker 1: it's he a top five quarterback. And I mean it

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Speaker 1: was like no, because I I rattled off like five

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Speaker 1: guys in my head, right, you mean Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson, uh,

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Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts, Jaden Daniels, probably Joe Burrow uh sly into

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Speaker 1: the top five there. So it just I couldn't make

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Speaker 1: a case for Baker Mayfield being top five, But can

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Speaker 1: you make a chase for him being the QB six

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Speaker 1: next year?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well he's in that group.

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Speaker 3: To me, they're they're like, I agree with your top five.

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Speaker 3: I think those are gonna be the set it and

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Speaker 3: forget it top five. But after I could see Jared

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Speaker 3: Goff because and Baker because it. Baker might lose his

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Speaker 3: OC this year, like Liam Cohen is becoming a very

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Speaker 3: popular name you're hear, but so could Jared Goff with

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Speaker 3: Ben Johnson.

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Speaker 4: Bo Nicks is one that I could see being in

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Speaker 4: that tier.

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Speaker 3: And then you got like Kyler Murray who runs and

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Speaker 3: everyone loves and uh so he's in the discussion. I

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Speaker 3: would say, I don't think he's like a set it

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Speaker 3: and forget it QB six, but he will be in

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Speaker 3: that tier after the top.

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Speaker 1: Five, all right, I think that that's fair. I mean,

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Speaker 1: have we underestimated Lakwan? We underestimated Baker because I think

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Speaker 1: I heard yesterday that since the start of last year

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Speaker 1: and I have to verify this, but I believe since

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Speaker 1: it started last year, no one has more touchdown passes

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Speaker 1: than Baker Mayfield.

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Speaker 5: Well, I think we are because we constantly bring up

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Speaker 5: Baker Mayfield and like I think we still have that

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Speaker 1: All right, one I caught you know, so you are

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Speaker 5: I think he gets it. I think he barely gets it.

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Speaker 1: And to my earlier point, Baker Mayfield is actually tied

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Speaker 1: Thousand if healthy, Yeah, yeah, Mike Evans. Mike Evans is

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Speaker 3: And I don't think he gets credit for he's running

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Speaker 1: So yeah, you're getting those those cheat code yards out

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Speaker 5: Tony Pollard of just having that constant back and forth

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Speaker 5: But Tony Pollard definitely killed a lot of my fantasy rosters.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I you know, it definitely stunk that he got hurt,

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Speaker 2: Say, look, can you give this guy a good workload?

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Speaker 1: Like I mean, like I really thought the season was

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Speaker 1: And look, to Pollard's credit, he's actually played really, really well.

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Speaker 1: Taj Spears could do.

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Speaker 2: That's all Florida. Who was your big fantasy faux pas

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Speaker 1: Uh?

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Speaker 4: Coopered?

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Speaker 3: You got coopered right because you had Cooper Cup on

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Speaker 3: Thursday giving you zero points.

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Speaker 4: And then the handshake meme.

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Speaker 3: Amari was like, I'm not going to leave you out there.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna join you as zero fantasy points for a

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Speaker 3: I think the big takeaway from this though, is this

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Speaker 3: to me, it is very I'm much more concerned about

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Speaker 2: That'll do it. That will for sure do it. Uh.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's been a weird year for veteran wide

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Speaker 4: He lives with Rogers.

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Speaker 1: When you get traded, then you gotta, you know, be

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Speaker 2: Apparently we just.

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Speaker 4: Eat breakfast little lived with them.

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Speaker 5: Yes, Cooper got his breakout, you know, staying with Jared

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Speaker 1: Like I get if, you probably weren't starting him outside

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Speaker 1: Houston regardless of what the matchup says on paper. I mean,

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Speaker 5: Which she didn't have touchdown.

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Speaker 2: Touchdown with John Smith three points, but you know you.

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Speaker 5: Made sure you got that touchdown then, you know, you.

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Speaker 1: Know, I wonder if Johnny has passed that on to

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Speaker 2: And Ally's gonna have to dye his hair blonde, Like

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Speaker 2: I wonder.

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Speaker 3: If they have a picture of Lakwan up in their

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Speaker 2: Because I'm not gonna lie.

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Speaker 1: Mike McDaniel seems petty enough to like just make this

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Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure, what you just said is insane.

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Speaker 3: Though Tua head less than four points a touchdown is

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Speaker 2: That's how bad the day was. That's how bad. He

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Speaker 1: All right, I guess like a good break, we're gonna

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Speaker 1: I know it is near the end of the year,

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Speaker 1: Obviously a lot of key injuries. We talked on Monday

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Speaker 2: Damage a little bit. So Lakwad, who should folks be

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Speaker 5: In deeper leagues, you got to look for the Boomer

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Speaker 1: The guy that we liked obviously had that one year

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Speaker 1: where he missed the whole year with an injury. For

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Speaker 1: whatever reason, the Broncos felt like they didn't need him.

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Speaker 2: But sure, there you go. Who's your deep diveway for

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Speaker 2: wire guy?

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Speaker 3: I Florio Kendre Miller just because he's looked pretty good

446
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Speaker 3: under this new coaching staff. And then Alvin Kamara. I

447
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Speaker 3: know they're saying he's day to day with the groin

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Speaker 3: right now. But like, the Saints have nothing to play

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Speaker 3: for right now, and they have an investment beyond this

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Speaker 3: year in Camara, So part of me wonders if like

451
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Speaker 3: they're gonna tell him just hey, don't push it or

452
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Speaker 3: something like that, and next week think at the Packers,

453
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Speaker 3: which isn't great, But like, let's say Kamara sits in

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Speaker 3: championship week against the Raiders. That is a week you

455
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Speaker 3: could one hundred percent plug in Kendre Miller in. So

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Speaker 3: just someone like I want on my roster, and that

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Speaker 3: championship game of Miller versus since Her McCormick would be

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Speaker 3: hilarious because it would.

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Speaker 4: Determine it would partially determine.

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Speaker 3: Who wins fantasy leagues, And it's like, yeah, no one

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Speaker 3: in a million years thought these would be the running.

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Speaker 1: Backs Kendre Miller versus Sincere McCormick for a fantasy title.

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Speaker 2: That that'd be a hell of a story to tell,

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Speaker 2: for sure. I guess you could throw ty J. Spears

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Speaker 2: sort of into that mix too.

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Speaker 1: You know, know that Tony Pollard, dealing with an ankle injury,

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Speaker 1: had to leave the game early on Sunday, and we

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Speaker 1: ended up seeing Spears play about fifty five percent of

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Speaker 1: the snaps ended up with a good day over ninety

470
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Speaker 1: scrimmag Yards found his way into the end zone, gave

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Speaker 1: you a solid fantasy day, and you sort of wonder

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Speaker 1: whether or not this means the Titans. We'll start to

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Speaker 1: look at Spears, see I then get a longer look

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Speaker 1: at him, see if he deserves some more opportunity. Look,

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Speaker 1: if it turns out that Pollard's ankle injury maybe is

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Speaker 1: worse than we originally believed, and certainly that means Spears

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Speaker 1: gets a big chance here, but it's worth adding him

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Speaker 1: off the waiver wire just to kind of see how

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Speaker 1: things go out change potentially coming at quarterback. You know,

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Speaker 1: on Monday, the Titans we're not ready to commit to

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Speaker 1: Will Levis getting his starting job back after he was

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Speaker 1: benched in that lost to the Cincinnati Bengals. So look,

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Speaker 1: the next couple of weeks, they're at Indianapolis, they're at Jacksonville.

484
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Speaker 1: So the last couple of weeks of the fantasy playoffs

485
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Speaker 1: are very good matchups for the Titans running backs.

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Speaker 2: So it could be that if ty J.

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Speaker 1: Spears can get a decent workload, he is worth throwing

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Speaker 1: into some lineups and certainly maybe a DFS play if

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Speaker 1: nothing else, if you're not going to start him in

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Speaker 1: your your regular managed leagues for sure. So as always,

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Speaker 1: if we are adding guys, we are dropping guys. And

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Speaker 1: I think I sort of alluded to the guy that

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Speaker 1: Lakwan you're talking about dropping right now.

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Speaker 5: He's like a toxic X man, Like I've had him

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Speaker 5: on the drop list before, so you know, he's had

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Speaker 5: this little little spur where he showed some upside and

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Speaker 5: then you pick him back up and then he goes

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Speaker 5: out there and Brian Cannell at Callahan, he embarrassed him

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Speaker 5: in front of his old team, like you like, what

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Speaker 5: are you doing? So he had to hit the bench again.

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Speaker 5: But like, I'm completely done with him, man. I think

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Speaker 5: that the Titans are going to be done with him

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Speaker 5: as well.

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Speaker 2: Like that.

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Speaker 5: It was just a god awful game, especially that last

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Speaker 5: interception to Chiggs, like it was just like what were

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Speaker 5: you looking at? And like, I think the Will Levis

508
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Speaker 5: experience is over, especially for Fantasy going into next year.

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Speaker 5: So this will be the final drop for me.

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Speaker 2: All right, So Will Levis is done.

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Speaker 1: I did get I saw someone tweet yesterday or Sunday

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Speaker 1: rather that, you know, they can't wait for Will Levis

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Speaker 1: to end up going to like Andy Reid or Kyle

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Speaker 1: Shanahan finishing school and somehow having some resurgence late in

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Speaker 1: his career, right, like, like the right coach will get

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Speaker 1: their hands on Will Levis and figure out how to

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Speaker 1: put him in a system. Look, man, Sam Darnold's for

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Speaker 1: the year in San Francisco as the backup to brock Purty.

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Speaker 1: You know. Then he gets over to Minnesota with Kevin

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Speaker 1: O'Connell and like, is the new hotness again?

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Speaker 2: Like why couldn't it happen for Will Levis? Maybe? Who knows? Florida?

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Speaker 2: Who are we saying goodbye to? Wait? Wait? Oh wait?

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Speaker 5: Because why E's Mayonnates was coffee and like he bites

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Speaker 5: banana skills Like he's a weirdo man, we don't want

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Speaker 5: him in la uh.

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Speaker 4: I mean he'd be the youngest guy in that QB

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Speaker 4: room by a.

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Speaker 2: Decade, That's true, he would be.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know, Stetson Bennett is like on aarp

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Speaker 1: at this.

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Speaker 2: Point, right, nah? It is? Are you who are you dropping? Now?

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Speaker 3: Hey, guys, what do Chris brooks Audric estimate Trey Sermon,

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Speaker 3: Rashen Ali, Dario Gumbawalle and Kamani Vedel all have in common.

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Speaker 2: Points.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's it's bad for Gus Edwards right now.

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Speaker 3: Like you look at since he's taken over five point five,

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Speaker 3: two point seven, seven point one, four point three, nine

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Speaker 3: point six, two point three, like those are his last

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Speaker 3: six games. At some point he took over for JK.

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Speaker 3: Dobbins in that stretch, you wouldn't know it. If you

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Speaker 3: looked at his game Loge, you'd still think he's backing

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Speaker 3: him up because I mean he doesn't have he has

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Speaker 3: one game in that stretch with over forty rushing yards.

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Speaker 4: Like, it is over for Gus Edwards.

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Speaker 3: You could pay me to play this guy in the

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Speaker 3: fantasy playoffs. So yeah, it's it's done. There's no burst

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Speaker 3: left for him. He doesn't catch passes. He is purely

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Speaker 3: touchdown dependent, and in that stretch he has two games

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Speaker 3: where he scored a touchdown, still couldn't get to double

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Speaker 3: digit fantasy points. So yeah, I'm long done with Gus Edwards.

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Speaker 3: It was a fun ride. There was a stretch where

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Speaker 3: like you were extremely underrated as the Ravens running back.

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Speaker 3: But we've come full circle and yeah, I like he

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Speaker 3: might not be in the league next year.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I had to look up who Rasheen Ali plays for

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Speaker 1: when you were saying that. I was like, wait, Rasheen

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Speaker 1: a lay and like where is he nowadays? All right,

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Speaker 1: He's in Baltimore, all right, So there you go. I

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Speaker 1: also saw somebody made the point that I guess since JK.

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Speaker 1: Dobbins went down with his injury, that Chargers running backs

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Speaker 1: have scored a grand total of twenty five Fantasy points

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Speaker 1: total since since JK. Dobbins got hurt.

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Speaker 3: Let's give Videl the workload for a game and see

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Speaker 3: what he.

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Speaker 4: Could do with it.

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Speaker 2: Just see, let's just check it out.

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Speaker 5: You know who else has more Fantasy points? Ezekiel Elliott.

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Speaker 5: That is disgusting, I mean, is foul.

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Speaker 1: What's about a time that was expected like nowadays not

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Speaker 1: so much?

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Speaker 2: That's that is kind of gross.

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Speaker 1: Mine has not been as bad as either of the

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Speaker 1: guys that you, uh the Q two mentioned, but Travis etn.

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Speaker 1: I think it's just it's just time because it's it's

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Speaker 1: not it's not good enough that you feel great about

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Speaker 1: having him in your lineup, right, And he had twelve

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Speaker 1: and a half points on Sunday, which was really his

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Speaker 1: best game since Week three.

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Speaker 2: He hadn't hit that mark since Week three.

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Speaker 1: But you just don't feel confident enough that he's going

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Speaker 1: to be able to do this consistently. The Jaguars offense

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Speaker 1: is bad. Tank Bigsby, who was also has not been great.

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Speaker 1: I mean, let's not get it twisted. It's not like

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Speaker 1: Tank Bigsby is going out there and just snatching up opportunities.

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Speaker 2: But he's been better than Travis Etn.

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Speaker 4: There's just no.

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Speaker 2: Real upside there at this point.

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Speaker 1: He's not getting enough touches, he's not doing enough with

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Speaker 1: the touches he gets, he's not scoring touchdowns. It's hard

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Speaker 1: to make a real strong case to have Travis et

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Speaker 1: In certainly in your lineup. And I guess, look, unless

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Speaker 1: you are really shorthanded and dealing with a lot of injuries,

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Speaker 1: then maybe you can sort of make the argument for it.

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Speaker 1: But otherwise, I mean, I think it's just you know,

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Speaker 1: hey man, thank you for your service, and it's just

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Speaker 1: time to kind of move on from Travis Etn.

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Speaker 3: At this point, I have him on a team and

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Speaker 3: I'm too afraid to drop him, but I'll never start him.

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Speaker 4: The worst kind of player.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's kind that's kind of where it

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00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:39,480
Speaker 2: is with him at this point.

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Speaker 1: So probably time to say good bye to Travis etn Also,

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Speaker 1: it's time to say bye bye to this edition of

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Speaker 1: the podcast. I'll do it for the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast.

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Speaker 1: Stay happy, safe and healthy, do good and live well,

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Speaker 1: and we will talk to all again tomorrow.

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Speaker 3: Think to want to Pop