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Speaker 5: Touchdown and now your hosts Isaiah Standback, Patrick Walker, Josh
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Speaker 7: rock today with Isaiah Standback, Patrick Nocy Walker, Josh Rodriguez,
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Speaker 3: We've got the the sound playing already. The music is here.
Speaker 2: The Cowboys are back on the practice field for what
Speaker 2: is officially, gentlemen, a game week.
Speaker 3: It is a game week in Oxnard.
Speaker 2: The Cowboys not only with the joint practice on Tuesday
Speaker 2: against the Rams, but on Saturday they take on the
Speaker 2: Rams at Sofi Stadium. Glad you're with us, and gentlemen,
Speaker 2: it feels a little different around here.
Speaker 3: Maybe it's just the.
Speaker 2: Song and the atmosphere set that's in the background, but
Speaker 2: for the most part, it's going to be Uh, it's
Speaker 2: a different feel this week for this Cowboys team.
Speaker 1: Why does it feel different than you, Kyle? We never
Speaker 1: get to ask you questions?
Speaker 3: Well, then ask me.
Speaker 1: Let's know what. Why is it a different feel around here?
Speaker 3: Because we get to see.
Speaker 2: Our team hit somebody else, We get to see someone
Speaker 2: else get laid out by Malie Hooker, we.
Speaker 3: Get to see you. I'm tense, I'm ready to go.
Speaker 3: It's an intense week.
Speaker 1: A safe place. You know that, right, It is a
Speaker 1: safe place.
Speaker 3: It's always a safe place.
Speaker 1: Its big brock lesnar energy.
Speaker 3: Right. Oh, okay that he was a Hall of Famer.
Speaker 1: No, this is.
Speaker 4: Right, hot friend energy.
Speaker 1: It came back.
Speaker 3: Summer changing jo. How was Summer Slam? Everybody?
Speaker 1: It was a good Uh. It ended spectacularly before this Country.
Speaker 3: No, I mean it was some hesitation, it was.
Speaker 8: It started off both nights started off great, dipped, had
Speaker 8: some filler that was quite mid, and then popped off with.
Speaker 4: I always checks in about our wrestling like a.
Speaker 3: Strange did you guys have far?
Speaker 4: Are you winning?
Speaker 1: Son?
Speaker 5: Extremely contrub But to get back to your question, sorry,
Speaker 5: I'm looking forward to seeing the Rams. I love when
Speaker 5: the Rams and the Cowboys practice have their joint practice
Speaker 5: because it is very competitive, very competitive. They have some
Speaker 5: dudes on their team as a very well coached team,
Speaker 5: we know they are talented.
Speaker 1: They have some new additions that are going to test out.
Speaker 5: Not only are are obviously our offensive line got tested
Speaker 5: last year here with their defensive young and young and verse,
Speaker 5: but now our cornerbacks, which we know that room is
Speaker 5: a little bit depth challenged at this point with all
Speaker 5: the injuries that they have going on here in Dallas,
Speaker 5: They're gonna get challenged by Pooka, Nakua Davonte Adams, and
Speaker 5: that's gonna be a sight to see. I'm looking forward
Speaker 5: to seeing those one on one opportunities, not only in
Speaker 5: the team sessions, but those one on ones because you
Speaker 5: really get to see guys get exposed.
Speaker 1: On both sides.
Speaker 5: So I'm looking forward to all the competition revolving around
Speaker 5: joint practice.
Speaker 8: But it's like Isaiah said that there's a lot of
Speaker 8: new additions for the Cowboys, and the question is can
Speaker 8: they stand the ring. When you're talking about Jared Vers
Speaker 8: and you're talking about the addition of Dante Davante Adams,
Speaker 8: along with Will and Nicola and I mean the we
Speaker 8: talked about the cornerbacks position with the Cowboys. We said
Speaker 8: this coming into camp, and the situation hasn't improved her
Speaker 8: kyer Elam. Notwithstanding, you're starting to see a little bit
Speaker 8: of shine from some of these younger guys like a
Speaker 8: Keimon Hall. Andrew Booth had a good practice a couple
Speaker 8: practices ago, but he's nursing all that working back from
Speaker 8: an injury. As far as getting back a hundred percent
Speaker 8: s gonerbacks group is going to get tested real early.
Speaker 8: And here we are, and we talk about these young guys,
Speaker 8: they're going to see preseason reps. Now, granted, in the preseason,
Speaker 8: they're not going to be going against Devonte Adams, they're
Speaker 8: not going to be going against pookin the cool but
Speaker 8: they're going to be going against a talented wide receiver
Speaker 8: corp who's coached up by I guess who, Sean McVay,
Speaker 8: who can scheme some things open offensive line.
Speaker 1: We talked about Jerry Verse.
Speaker 8: It doesn't get any better from there, right, So we'll
Speaker 8: see what they do as early as tomorrow Tuesday, when
Speaker 8: they go up against them in the scrimmage.
Speaker 1: That's when the Cowboys.
Speaker 8: Will officially get to hit someone other than their own
Speaker 8: teammates for the first time.
Speaker 1: So I'm interested to see that too, love to see that.
Speaker 9: And the Rams are a team that's constantly sort of
Speaker 9: in the mix. I mean, they're coming off of a
Speaker 9: divisional loss, but they did not start off the season
Speaker 9: very well. They didn't look great throughout the season. But
Speaker 9: a big thing at least that I remember from last
Speaker 9: year is when they came into our facility and they
Speaker 9: practice against us, we they kind of.
Speaker 4: Beat us up a little bit. It didn't look great.
Speaker 9: We looked a little sloppy, and they were kind of
Speaker 9: big dog in us. And this is something that Nate
Speaker 9: Newton pointed out to me and felt like, you know,
Speaker 9: that was the writing on the wall of like this
Speaker 9: team is not ready.
Speaker 4: To be a dog.
Speaker 9: Now you have a chance to defend your honor here
Speaker 9: in Oxnard. This is our town, right So I think
Speaker 9: at least when you have that, you can compare it
Speaker 9: to last year. You can say, if we're showing out
Speaker 9: in practice this time, it's going to be a lot
Speaker 9: different than it is for the season.
Speaker 4: Hopefully it's indicative of that.
Speaker 9: But like you said, pointing out Keemon Hall to a
Speaker 9: guy that you really want to see play well in
Speaker 9: the preseason and just in practice in general. Hopefully it
Speaker 9: doesn't take too many preseason snaps, but just in general.
Speaker 5: Yeah, And I want to kind of preface this conversation
Speaker 5: for the people that are listening at home. The reason
Speaker 5: why we put so much emphasis on these joint practices
Speaker 5: is because this is really the first and only opportunity
Speaker 5: that you get throughout all of training camp to see
Speaker 5: where your team that's going to be on the field
Speaker 5: their regular season, where they stand.
Speaker 3: Yep.
Speaker 5: This is the only time that you'll see Ceedee Lamb,
Speaker 5: George Pickens and everybody else as a starter going full tilt,
Speaker 5: not to the ground, not full tackling, but full tilt
Speaker 5: against the competition that they will face when the regular
Speaker 5: season approaches. Other than this practice, this one practice, they
Speaker 5: will not see that level of competition outside of their
Speaker 5: team again until games matter.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the big thing.
Speaker 2: So we've got a month between Tuesday, a month exactly
Speaker 2: from today until Game one against.
Speaker 3: The Philadelphia Eagles.
Speaker 2: But tomorrow it'll be thirty days out until then, and
Speaker 2: so you've got a long time to see it. But
Speaker 2: you'll get to see a really good snipe of it.
Speaker 2: Of it and to y'all's point, I mean, you look
Speaker 2: at the roster from the Rams and they probably say
Speaker 2: the same thing vice versa to a certain extent, but
Speaker 2: they're playmakers at every level, and so it's gonna challenge you.
Speaker 2: I'm excited to see what the run defense looks like,
Speaker 2: the interior of our defensive line, the Mazi Smiths, the
Speaker 2: Solomon thomas Is, the j joy Is who's had a.
Speaker 3: Good camp so far.
Speaker 2: All of those guys go up against the stable of
Speaker 2: running backs that I would love to have on our rosters.
Speaker 3: I would love to have.
Speaker 2: A Kyrin Williams or a Blake Cora Moor, a Jarquez
Speaker 2: Hunter who is a rookie draft pick out of Auburn
Speaker 2: this year in the fourth round.
Speaker 3: I would love all of those things to come to fruition.
Speaker 2: But now we get to see how we stop them
Speaker 2: and how you can stand up against them. So, along
Speaker 2: with the receivers that you guys mentioned, with Nikoua and
Speaker 2: Adams and Jordan Whittington who tore up Dallas in the
Speaker 2: preseason last year, I'm excited to see what the depth
Speaker 2: of our defense looks like. Because there have been some
Speaker 2: good things that we've seen, there have been some some
Speaker 2: not so good things that we've seen on the field,
Speaker 2: and we're going to get all of that tested going
Speaker 2: into Tuesday. One of the not so good things that
Speaker 2: we've seen throughout camp has been the Micah Parsons saga.
Speaker 2: Micah Parsons edge rusher All Pro. He wears number eleven
Speaker 2: when he wants to put on the jersey.
Speaker 1: I've seen it.
Speaker 3: Yep. He's out here, yep.
Speaker 1: Pretty good at football arguably.
Speaker 2: And since we were last on this show, of course,
Speaker 2: we were last on the show, breaking news, of course,
Speaker 2: to hit right around. He has requested a trade for
Speaker 2: Ellis Cowboys releasing a statement on X I'm sure if
Speaker 2: you're a Cowboys fan and you're listening to Talking Cowboys
Speaker 2: about now, you've probably seen the post.
Speaker 3: You've probably heard one hundred different opinions on it.
Speaker 2: But guess what, we haven't talked about it on our show,
Speaker 2: So I want to get your opinion on it.
Speaker 3: The We'll start just by the request.
Speaker 2: We'll get into the back and forth here in a
Speaker 2: moment and maybe the impact of it all, but just
Speaker 2: your thought on the request initially, and remember this is
Speaker 2: a show where we do what keep you one, we
Speaker 2: say that is what we do.
Speaker 3: So Isaiah, I'll let you start.
Speaker 5: Try to say that for Friday's Kyle, but being that
Speaker 5: as a Monday, I'll give him a sample of that.
Speaker 1: Okay, I think that I take that back. Let me
Speaker 1: start over.
Speaker 5: I believe I believe Jerry Madelon was on my shoulder.
Speaker 5: I believe I believe that this was if this is
Speaker 5: more to comeback, Michaeh. Parsons has been using all of
Speaker 5: his moves right hidden, mashing all the buttons, and then
Speaker 5: finally he sees the code and the and the sequence
Speaker 5: in which he has to enter in his final finish
Speaker 5: him move, and this was his finisher move. Yeah, for
Speaker 5: the Dallas exactly for the Dallas Cowboys. And the reason
Speaker 5: why I say that is because, as a player who
Speaker 5: is contractually bound to an organization and a team in
Speaker 5: his current state, there's only so.
Speaker 1: Much you can do.
Speaker 5: And you've communicated through the media, you've communicated directly with
Speaker 5: the individuals that are a part of the negotiations. You
Speaker 5: feel like you're trying to treading water, like you're running
Speaker 5: on a hamster wheel and nothing's really getting done. There's
Speaker 5: no progress. You want a deal done. They're very patient.
Speaker 5: They don't have a sense of urgency, but you do.
Speaker 5: You have to pull your card. And if you're playing Uno,
Speaker 5: this is your wild card. This is this is the
Speaker 5: one that you've been holding on to until you absolutely
Speaker 5: needed it, because bam, here we go. Oh this is
Speaker 5: all I have left, And the wild card is I'm
Speaker 5: going to put the Dallas Cowboys in a position in
Speaker 5: these negotiations where I can remove myself and I now
Speaker 5: can allow the fans and the media to negotiate on
Speaker 5: my behalf. There is nothing else that needs to be
Speaker 5: said for Micah Parsons. The organization feels the way they
Speaker 5: feel they have all the leverage they have him in
Speaker 5: a current contract. They don't feel the need to have
Speaker 5: a sense of urgency in this regard. And you're already
Speaker 5: heard Jerry say I don't mind him not being out
Speaker 5: there right now because I don't want him to get hurt.
Speaker 1: So the Joneses in the organization are perfectly fine. But
Speaker 1: in terms of Micah, this.
Speaker 5: Is smart from my stance as a former player, from
Speaker 5: his behalf, because now he literally has to say nothing else.
Speaker 5: But we will talk about it every other platform will
Speaker 5: talk about it. The fans will be yelling his name
Speaker 5: whenever Jerry walks out the practice Jerry Jones and he
Speaker 5: cans just sit back, sign sign you know, fake checks
Speaker 5: on the sideline, kiss babies, and just let everybody else
Speaker 5: do his bidding for him.
Speaker 8: So Isaiah makes a bunch of great points. I'll segue
Speaker 8: off of one of his points. This is Michael Parson's
Speaker 8: playing the proverbial wild card. Okay, problem is the Cowboys
Speaker 8: have to draw for Yeah, okay, you have upwards of
Speaker 8: three years of control between this fifth year option and
Speaker 8: you can franchise tag him twice before you know. Now,
Speaker 8: I don't believe it gets to that point. Let me
Speaker 8: be clear. I've said this before. I'm gonna say it again.
Speaker 8: I felt this way pre trade request. I feel this
Speaker 8: way right now. I believe this deal gets done. Yeah,
Speaker 8: I do believe the deal gets done. Everything you're seeing
Speaker 8: right now is the game within the game. And that's
Speaker 8: one thing that Jerry Jones said that was one hundred
Speaker 8: percent true. He said, this is the negotiation and no
Speaker 8: matter how you slice it, this is not the first
Speaker 8: time we've seen this dance with a high profile player
Speaker 8: who was arguably the best or one of the best
Speaker 8: players at his position when it comes to negotiating with
Speaker 8: the Cowboys.
Speaker 1: I can drop the names.
Speaker 8: You already know the names, the Dak Prescott, that de
Speaker 8: Marcus Lawrences, the City Lambs, to Zach Martins.
Speaker 1: It goes on, It goes on.
Speaker 8: It goes on almost every years, but every year. That's
Speaker 8: why the trade request, while meteoric in its impact, didn't
Speaker 8: move my needle whatsoever. It immediately made me think of
Speaker 8: Myles Garrett. Hopefully this ends the same way. However, you
Speaker 8: saw what Myles Garrett did in formally demanding a trade
Speaker 8: from the Cleveland Browns, and just over thirty days later
Speaker 8: he signed to this massive, record setting deal. Miles and
Speaker 8: Michael Parsons are really good friends. Now, I'm gonna use
Speaker 8: that point to make my next point. One of the
Speaker 8: reasons this has gotten to a trade request and it's
Speaker 8: gotten so contentious is it's not just the shots that
Speaker 8: are being fired at Michael Parsons as he views it
Speaker 8: and as his agent views it. It's also the shots
Speaker 8: that are being fired at Trayvon Diggs. Yeah, who's Michael
Speaker 8: Parsons's best friend in this locker room?
Speaker 1: Trayvon Diggs.
Speaker 8: A little over a week ago, they stood on this
Speaker 8: field and did a combo pack interview for Solidarity.
Speaker 1: So I'm here to tell you.
Speaker 8: Parsons is taking all of this into context, and he
Speaker 8: simply feels a way about the organization at the moment,
Speaker 8: not simply because of his contract issue, but also because
Speaker 8: of the contingent between Trayvon Diggs.
Speaker 1: And the front office over the rehab stuff.
Speaker 8: All of that is to say, now that I've given
Speaker 8: you all that context and something to think about, I
Speaker 8: am unmoved by this trade request.
Speaker 1: I wish it didn't get to this point.
Speaker 8: I believe the Dallas Cowboys would be it would be
Speaker 8: nothing short of professional malepractice to trade away Michael Parsons
Speaker 8: at least for anything short of and I kind of
Speaker 8: joked about this before on inside training camp. If you're
Speaker 8: not giving up two or three planets in this solar system,
Speaker 8: it's not We're not even starting the converse.
Speaker 5: But you do understand how Dallas fans, not necessarily Dallas
Speaker 5: Cowboys fans, but Dallas sports fans have a little bit
Speaker 5: of PTSD.
Speaker 3: Because I get.
Speaker 8: A fresh woe unfortunately because of how the you know, Mavericks.
Speaker 3: We love us. He just signed a deal I don't
Speaker 3: want to hear.
Speaker 1: So is it impossible.
Speaker 8: No, it's not impossible, because nothing's impossible, But the odds
Speaker 8: of it occurring are so meniscw that in my mind
Speaker 8: it's not worth entertaining.
Speaker 1: Josh, are you losing sleep?
Speaker 9: I'm not losing sleep over this, And that was my point.
Speaker 9: I was about to make thank you Isaiah for the
Speaker 9: perfect segue, because Jerry talked about it after practice and
Speaker 9: he said, don't lose sleep over this. This is I've
Speaker 9: been here a while, I kind of done this a
Speaker 9: time or two. This is how the game is played.
Speaker 9: This is how Micah's Parsons is choosing to gain leverage.
Speaker 9: But matter of fact, and as you to have gracefully
Speaker 9: pointed out, the Cowboys hold all the leverage they have
Speaker 9: controlled this contract over the next three seasons between the
Speaker 9: fifth year option and then of course the two franchise tags.
Speaker 9: And not to mention, the Cowboys have used the franchise
Speaker 9: tag as recently as Dak Prescotte. Don't think for a
Speaker 9: second that they won't also use it on a Micah Parsons.
Speaker 9: It would be unfortunate, but they will do it if
Speaker 9: they need to. Michael Parsons will not be traded, in
Speaker 9: my opinion, to any other team. He will play for
Speaker 9: the Dallas Cowboys. If it comes to him wanting to
Speaker 9: set out games or what have you, that would be
Speaker 9: obviously a financial risk. But if he feels that way,
Speaker 9: I mean more power to him. That's based on what
Speaker 9: the player wants to do and between him and his agent. Now,
Speaker 9: if you consider the fact that here we stand, you know,
Speaker 9: just a few days after the trade request, within thirty days,
Speaker 9: it happened for Miles Garrett. Again, it's just a move,
Speaker 9: a part of the move, a part of the move.
Speaker 9: This is how the game is played. I'm not phased
Speaker 9: by it at anyway.
Speaker 2: I've had conversations with Micah too when hosting certain events
Speaker 2: and different things where it's about his money, and even
Speaker 2: before the contract talks were even a thing. This is
Speaker 2: going back multiple years now, but one of the things
Speaker 2: he talked about was being smart.
Speaker 3: With your money.
Speaker 2: And one of the things he's doing right now to
Speaker 2: show that he cares about being smart with his money
Speaker 2: is showing up to training camp, showing up and not
Speaker 2: taking that fifty thousand dollars fine and standing on the
Speaker 2: side at least being their first teammates and being around
Speaker 2: the camp and the facility and the staff and all
Speaker 2: of those different elements. So I find it hard to
Speaker 2: believe he will sit out games. Yeah, that's but that's
Speaker 2: the next leverage move, that's the next wild card that
Speaker 2: people aren't necessarily seeing as a possibility. That would be
Speaker 2: where I think the front office could lose a little
Speaker 2: bit of leverages if he were to sit out certain games,
Speaker 2: because they want him on the field, they want him
Speaker 2: as a.
Speaker 3: Part of this.
Speaker 2: But in order to give up that leverage, or to
Speaker 2: gain that leverage, if you're Michael Parsons, you're gonna have
Speaker 2: to give up some cash, and he's going to be
Speaker 2: less smart about his money.
Speaker 8: And I do agree with Kyle in the capacity of
Speaker 8: if Michael Parsons were so inclined if for whatever reason,
Speaker 8: the deal is not done by September fourth, and Michael Parsons,
Speaker 8: we're so inclined to miss the first couple of games.
Speaker 8: Those couple of games are against the divisional revels, right, yep.
Speaker 8: Where it's not just one loss equals mathematically one loss. Yeah,
Speaker 8: it's more like one and a half pretty much Okay.
Speaker 8: On top of that, let's just be completely clear. Let's
Speaker 8: be honest. We're saying with our chests, right, let's say
Speaker 8: with our chess. Jerry Jones said this time and again,
Speaker 8: and he knows what I'm about to say is true.
Speaker 1: He's mortal, okay, and he's not a spring chicken.
Speaker 8: So if you were to entertain trading Michael Parsons, yeah,
Speaker 8: you get all these draft picks that you hope hopefully
Speaker 8: panned out in the next two, three, four, five years.
Speaker 1: However, again, you're not a.
Speaker 8: Twenty year old, a thirty year old to forty year old,
Speaker 8: not even a fifty year's trying to win now. If
Speaker 8: you're trying to win right now, you just put the
Speaker 8: keys to the throne in the hands of Brian Schottenheimer,
Speaker 8: who was the first time NFL head coach, and he's
Speaker 8: saying all the right things, and through this point in training,
Speaker 8: cap Brian Schotenheimer's also doing.
Speaker 1: All the right things.
Speaker 8: Do you want to take a blade and cut at
Speaker 8: one of his proverbial achilles going into his inaugural season
Speaker 8: right as far as taking one of the if not
Speaker 8: arguably the best pass rusher off of the field, maybe
Speaker 8: for one game, two games, multiple games. So yes, to
Speaker 8: your point, Kyle, if Michael Parsons pushes that envelope, yeah,
Speaker 8: Jerry could call us bluff. He has three years of
Speaker 8: rights to call his bluff for And so yeah, Michael
Speaker 8: Parson is not going to sit out one entire season,
Speaker 8: two entire seasons. This will get resolved. But if Michael
Speaker 8: Parson sits out one or two games and they happen
Speaker 8: to be against the Eagles and the Giants and you
Speaker 8: lose those two games, yes.
Speaker 9: Let me ask a question real quick, and you just
Speaker 9: alluded to it. The fact that this is happening in
Speaker 9: coach Schottenheimer's inaugural season with the Dallas cow as head coach,
Speaker 9: does this affect the new culture that he's been trying
Speaker 9: to build, Like, you know, I think we're all sort
Speaker 9: of kumbaya coming into this training camp and you've seen
Speaker 9: it out here. Discipline, yelling at players whenever they're getting fights,
Speaker 9: all of that. Does this affect this sort of outside
Speaker 9: noise effect what's happening within that locker room?
Speaker 1: No? No, no.
Speaker 5: As a former player, now you understand business is business,
Speaker 5: but the coach is preaching is something completely different.
Speaker 1: This has no impact on the guy's.
Speaker 5: Continuity or you know, culture or any of those none
Speaker 5: of that stuff. Let me let me put this out there,
Speaker 5: and a lot of people might disagree with me, but
Speaker 5: it is what it is.
Speaker 1: Fine. This is a game of chess. But don't know
Speaker 1: to chest.
Speaker 4: Say it with your face some people.
Speaker 1: Some people plays.
Speaker 5: And for those that don't know how to play chess, learn,
Speaker 5: I don't play it out. Learn you play checkers right,
Speaker 5: and you can get kings, and you get double double
Speaker 5: when you go across, you trouble jump and do all
Speaker 5: the things.
Speaker 1: Listen.
Speaker 5: Last year, around this time, there was a gentleman by
Speaker 5: the name of who that was sitting out Zach Martin.
Speaker 1: Okay in a couple of years back. Yeah, okay, a
Speaker 1: couple years bout last.
Speaker 3: Together.
Speaker 8: This is how many people, how many comedies Zach Martin
Speaker 8: sat out?
Speaker 5: If I remember correctly past the joint practice, Yes, yes,
Speaker 5: at the joint practice, the office.
Speaker 1: Line got worked, destroyed, destroyed. There's another joint practice tomorrow, Yeah,
Speaker 1: there is.
Speaker 5: I already mentioned on the show that you have an
Speaker 5: idea of where you stand compared to real NFL competition
Speaker 5: outside of your team tomorrow.
Speaker 2: I feel more confident in the stable of edge rushers
Speaker 2: this year than I did in that offensive line there.
Speaker 1: So let's talk about that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, if we want to bring it up,
Speaker 3: we can.
Speaker 5: I mean, that's what I was alluding to. I was,
Speaker 5: I was heading that way. Thank you very much for
Speaker 5: it for taking over to steerwell there. Sorry, No, that's fine.
Speaker 5: If this is a game that's being played, right, we
Speaker 5: keep talking about triple Ah, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: If this is a game that's being played, are you ready,
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys?
Speaker 5: If they have a good showing from a defensive in
Speaker 5: room against the Rams, you have more even more leverage,
Speaker 5: right And if you'r Micah Parsons, no disrespect, not wishing
Speaker 5: this upon him, not saying what he would say, but
Speaker 5: I would think that you're kind of hoping that they
Speaker 5: don't have a great showing because this shows how much.
Speaker 1: That you're needed.
Speaker 3: He's still needed.
Speaker 5: No, No, listen, Micah is Micha and I'm not saying that. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 5: for sure, But I believe that this is a productive
Speaker 5: room without Micah. It's not a dominant room without Micah,
Speaker 5: it's a productive room. You have guys who can rush
Speaker 5: the passer, you're gonna have a great idea of where
Speaker 5: you stand without my tomorrow when they face the Rams.
Speaker 3: Yep.
Speaker 5: And I think that whatever is happening in these negotiations,
Speaker 5: I think.
Speaker 1: Tomorrow might have a little bit of.
Speaker 5: An impact on those negotiations based upon the results of
Speaker 5: tomorrow in that room, I will.
Speaker 4: I would tend to agree.
Speaker 9: But I think what the big difference between Zach Martin's
Speaker 9: ear and Micah's here is that the offensive line depth
Speaker 9: was not the defensive depth is. Right now, you're surprised
Speaker 9: on how good the depth is here at edge without
Speaker 9: Micah that it's it's almost like, you know, Jerry's holding
Speaker 9: the cards at this point to say, like, I think
Speaker 9: we're all right.
Speaker 1: That's exactly what we can be.
Speaker 4: All right, you obviously do want the best player that's
Speaker 4: on the field on the.
Speaker 1: Field, but but I'm not right.
Speaker 3: You're gonna be fine.
Speaker 4: You're not in a panic.
Speaker 8: You know my problem with it, And you're both right,
Speaker 8: you're both rights. And because I'm also can.
Speaker 2: We go to break and yeah kiss on the other side, Yeah,
Speaker 2: we got it. I want to keep this conversation going
Speaker 2: when we come back. Let's talk about is this what
Speaker 2: you would consider a hollow trade request?
Speaker 3: Or is there a legitimate frustration there and it's it's
Speaker 3: something that.
Speaker 2: Can spill over into the season if it doesn't get
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Speaker 9: Kyle Yeomans just had to step out for whatever reason.
Speaker 1: The Coyle just submit a trade request. He did, he did.
Speaker 4: He's he's trying to hold some level. He's refusing to play.
Speaker 4: That's unprofessional.
Speaker 1: He's sitting out, rips. It's a hold in for Calm
Speaker 1: Dereck Eagleton. He needs to off the bench.
Speaker 5: Cole sitting out, that's a hold in. We need you
Speaker 5: to fill in, like Jamal Crawford.
Speaker 1: Let's go.
Speaker 5: Let's go, tommyboy cup it for Tommy.
Speaker 4: In the meantime.
Speaker 1: That's the fastest Timmy will run in camp.
Speaker 4: Patrick had a point to break.
Speaker 5: That's the fastest Tommy will run. You don't know what
Speaker 5: these two are talking about. Back months ago, maybe six
Speaker 5: months ago. I don't know when it was.
Speaker 1: These two challenge each other. No, no, that's incorrect, Tommy.
Speaker 1: Tommy challenged me, You challenged.
Speaker 3: Him, challenge him?
Speaker 5: Do you Tommy challenge forty yard dad?
Speaker 1: In heart breaks? He said, he'd beat me. Are you
Speaker 1: going to stand on business? And Carrie with that?
Speaker 3: Absolutely?
Speaker 1: When is this happening? Whenever you want?
Speaker 4: He said, whatever is it happening? He's standing on business.
Speaker 1: You guys are not clock could have done it for
Speaker 1: last episode.
Speaker 8: Tommy was up here copping please, so now it's chest
Speaker 8: is poked out again.
Speaker 3: Let the error please. Honestly, I don't even remember what
Speaker 3: we said the other day.
Speaker 5: Today after practice, after you guys finish your interviews, well,
Speaker 5: we got to write, so after work, you say, after
Speaker 5: cool down? By then, I don't I feel like you
Speaker 5: guys gonna.
Speaker 1: You realize working holding Thanks guys, appreciate it.
Speaker 3: Tommy, you realize work is work? Right?
Speaker 8: Let me get so we can do this after the show,
Speaker 8: not after the show, because we got the officials.
Speaker 4: Of lots of excuses.
Speaker 1: I'm that's all I'm We're hearing a lot of punning
Speaker 1: going over.
Speaker 8: Now you're hearing me getting my bag bag, first ass
Speaker 8: kickings we got.
Speaker 1: We got forty five minutes between you and that meeting.
Speaker 1: No you don't your math and math we.
Speaker 5: Get off the air of forty five? Should your meeting's
Speaker 5: at thirty?
Speaker 3: We should?
Speaker 5: It only takes five seconds around your forty maybe sixteen
Speaker 5: for some of y'all.
Speaker 3: Okay, so are we talking about this scenario?
Speaker 5: Is that why happened Whenever he said it, coul happened today?
Speaker 5: I said why not right after this?
Speaker 8: And I said, because we have this and then that
Speaker 8: I said today after player interviews and we finished off.
Speaker 1: Right and whatever. I don't see what what makes it
Speaker 1: sounds like Brian Inger?
Speaker 3: What's that he's punting?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 8: I love it because I have on record as saying
Speaker 8: we could do it this afternoon.
Speaker 1: Okay, so we're doing it. I just need a time,
Speaker 1: and you can't.
Speaker 8: Do it this afternoon. I don't care. Get the smoke
Speaker 8: whenever you want the smoke. Four o'clock on the grill.
Speaker 1: Okay, cool, four thirty, four fifteen, four o'clock.
Speaker 3: I'm trying to set a time. I'm trying to set
Speaker 3: a time.
Speaker 1: Four o'clock out, come, come see me, four o'clock.
Speaker 2: This afternoon, it'll be Patrick No s Walker versus Tommy.
Speaker 3: Just remember I was who's gonna win, Who's gonna win? Yeah,
Speaker 3: I put it on there.
Speaker 5: I was gonna put a pole on excell who's gonna
Speaker 5: win that race? Just remember I was my own business.
Speaker 3: Four o'clock Pacific, six o'clock Central.
Speaker 8: Now, as I was saying about Michael, Okay, yeah, the
Speaker 8: cliffhanger from the previous spillover. Yeah, the spill over excellent
Speaker 8: points on the cowboys. Will will love to see what
Speaker 8: this group of past Russians can do absent Michael, the
Speaker 8: Los Angeles Rams and the scrimmage. And I, for one,
Speaker 8: I'm interested to see if a guy like Donovanezrock who
Speaker 8: can continue his strong camp. I'm curious to see if
Speaker 8: Sam Williams can, if Dante Foller can continue going. And
Speaker 8: we know Dante camp because he's done it and a
Speaker 8: half of the money. But my counterpoint is you said
Speaker 8: something about them being good enough without Mike. He wants
Speaker 8: to see if they're at least good enough. Yeah, Okay,
Speaker 8: I'm kind of tired of good enough around here.
Speaker 1: I hear that. I'm real, real tired enough. Like what
Speaker 1: is good enough?
Speaker 8: It's gotten you eight and eight has gotten you nine
Speaker 8: to seven and twelve and fours. And then you get
Speaker 8: to the playoffs, and yeah, you were good enough to
Speaker 8: get to the playoffs, or you're good enough to win
Speaker 8: this game against this opponent, but then when it comes
Speaker 8: to playing an elite contender, then you're not good. I
Speaker 8: don't want to love, you say, and you're making a
Speaker 8: valid point. My counterpoint is I am no longer accepting
Speaker 8: good enough, and I don't want to hear about good
Speaker 8: I love dominance, and dominance involves Michael Parks.
Speaker 5: I completely agree, and I only say that this let
Speaker 5: me preference all this. The deal's going to get done. Okay,
Speaker 5: people listening, I wonder what cameraon the deal's going to
Speaker 5: get done. I say that deal has to get Might
Speaker 5: it be the team that you foresee yourself being? So
Speaker 5: I'm saying all that, But in this game of cat
Speaker 5: and mouse, in battleship and back and forth, whatever the
Speaker 5: game you want to say, leverage, leverage exactly. Leverage matters, right,
Speaker 5: And it's it's a ping pong game, back and forth, right,
Speaker 5: it's Forrest Gump sometimes back and forth. And if these
Speaker 5: guys have a bad showing a little bit of the
Speaker 5: leverage goes to Micah if they have a if they
Speaker 5: have I mean, if they if they have a bad showing,
Speaker 5: the leverage goes to Mica if it if they have
Speaker 5: a great showing, that slides back over to ownership because
Speaker 5: they're like, yep, see, we can still get things done.
Speaker 1: It's just it's all position by smith.
Speaker 3: But it's all.
Speaker 4: Positioning, right, And if we all just get along negotiating.
Speaker 3: How many people out there bought a house?
Speaker 1: Like it's back and forth, gentlemen over here, he bought
Speaker 1: a car recently? Right, bought a car?
Speaker 5: Like there's a little bit of negotiating and it goes
Speaker 5: back and forth like I can't do this, Okay, let
Speaker 5: me go talk to my manager and then they come
Speaker 5: back with some other Oh here's my offer. I don't
Speaker 5: really know, but it's literally that just on a much
Speaker 5: higher to go.
Speaker 8: We've seen these deals get done, especially in the couples
Speaker 8: organization like that. All it takes is one phone call,
Speaker 8: the right phone call between the right two or three
Speaker 8: people and in this instance, the right it two or
Speaker 8: three people involved.
Speaker 1: Jerry Jones, Stephen Jones.
Speaker 5: And David Mulligan that there you go and the number
Speaker 5: am I would imagine that the number is set right,
Speaker 5: the annual you know, saying revenue that he's gonna be
Speaker 5: bringing in, the annual cap number whatever that is, is set.
Speaker 5: I would imagine forty one, right imagine. I would imagine
Speaker 5: that's it, right like, so there's not a lot that
Speaker 5: has to go into it. So this deal can get
Speaker 5: done literally in minutes, I would imagine, yr, it just
Speaker 5: comes down to years at that point, years and guaranteed guaranteed.
Speaker 5: Y'all want to do a four year, don't want to
Speaker 5: do a five year. I'm sure he wants to do
Speaker 5: a four year. I'm sure the organization wants to do
Speaker 5: a five year, right, So you'll are you back and
Speaker 5: forth on that, and then it comes down to, okay,
Speaker 5: how much guaranteed money? Well, let's look at our roster
Speaker 5: when after we face the rams and see where what
Speaker 5: holes do we still need to feel?
Speaker 1: Are there guys that we need to go get and
Speaker 1: if so, we need a position.
Speaker 5: This this deal to allow for us to have space
Speaker 5: to go acquire and fill those holes. So that's literally
Speaker 5: logistically all that's really out there. People saw is as
Speaker 5: scared as people are, right, now is going to get done.
Speaker 5: It's not going to take much for it to get done.
Speaker 5: But what you're going to hear is a lot of posturing,
Speaker 5: a lot of positioning, and.
Speaker 1: You just have the weather to storm.
Speaker 3: So would you call that a hollow request?
Speaker 1: Hollow?
Speaker 3: Would you call it hollow across the board?
Speaker 1: Yes?
Speaker 2: On MICA's side, Yeah, just because it just impressed, I
Speaker 2: don't think I don't think it's because I think there's
Speaker 2: legitimate frustration.
Speaker 1: In regards to the frustration that thanks right now, all
Speaker 1: of that is valid.
Speaker 8: The actually is last sit and Michael Parsons is fit
Speaker 8: up with how the process has gone or not going to.
Speaker 2: And that if there's any frustration on fans side, that's
Speaker 2: how it should be frustrated. The way that the process
Speaker 2: has drug out again, that's where there should be a problem,
Speaker 2: because the money has done nothing but go up from
Speaker 2: the point where they were talking in March and that
Speaker 2: deal was on the table from from Jerry Jones's account,
Speaker 2: in the way that Micah has taken it off of
Speaker 2: the table, whether that's true or not, from that point
Speaker 2: until here as we sit in August, the money has
Speaker 2: done nothing but go up. So if you're the team.
Speaker 2: I don't know what the deal was in March. I
Speaker 2: can't tell you what the numbers were in March. But
Speaker 2: they're gonna sit there and I'm guaranteeing or not guaranteeing.
Speaker 2: But I would be inclined to think that number is
Speaker 2: not as high as it is now. But why not
Speaker 2: try and get it done then, as opposed to wait
Speaker 2: till this point.
Speaker 9: The riady has been on the wall since before Zach Martin,
Speaker 9: long before this. But look look at just last year
Speaker 9: with CD Lambs. Yeah, when they got the deal done.
Speaker 9: Before they were getting the deal done, they said, they're
Speaker 9: not on our timetable, We're on theirs. That's just how
Speaker 9: it works, man. I wish it was done back in
Speaker 9: the off season when we were talking about this. They've
Speaker 9: drug it out this long and arguablyieve at this point.
Speaker 9: Is it a strategy that they want to see where
Speaker 9: the other top edge rushers get paid?
Speaker 3: That be a bad strategy, I mean, but is it?
Speaker 1: Does it?
Speaker 9: I guess give them the sit back to recalibrate the
Speaker 9: value of the edge at that and giving that the
Speaker 9: edge that piece of the pie.
Speaker 4: I have no idea. It seems like it's just going up.
Speaker 9: If they wanted to wait till next year or the
Speaker 9: year after to get a deal done. Not that I
Speaker 9: want that to happen, but they're not on our timetable.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 4: As much as I wish they were, they are not.
Speaker 8: And for those that are, for those that are pretending
Speaker 8: that just because a player is a first round draft
Speaker 8: pick that that instantly replaces the talent that's already proven,
Speaker 8: I will remind.
Speaker 1: You of Taco Charlton. Now let's move on.
Speaker 3: What what what does talk Taco Charlton have to do
Speaker 3: with that first round pick?
Speaker 8: So they're saying like, because he's maybe Work's first round pick,
Speaker 8: can immediately come in.
Speaker 3: I was thinking contract talks.
Speaker 8: And you went to the draft and because if you
Speaker 8: were to, I saw someone in the comments say, oh,
Speaker 8: just treat them and get a first round pick, and.
Speaker 1: Doesn't.
Speaker 2: As much as I love the Draft show and I
Speaker 2: love having draft picks, we didn't even think Mica would
Speaker 2: turn into this.
Speaker 3: We really didn't. I mean, okay, Isaiah thought and knew
Speaker 3: and always does.
Speaker 2: Sorry, But from a general consensus, people were not happy
Speaker 2: with the Parsons pick because they were thinking, oh, another
Speaker 2: ed rusher in the first round, Let's see what happens.
Speaker 3: That went away real quick.
Speaker 2: Yes, And of course he ended up having an incredible
Speaker 2: camp in twenty one and then he's turned into and all.
Speaker 8: Doesn't want to what is the relationship is in a
Speaker 8: bad spot, but it's still a long term relationship. You know,
Speaker 8: the same thing happens in every mix, the boyfriend or
Speaker 8: girl marriage.
Speaker 1: I'm not taking this anymore.
Speaker 8: The episode before I walk out episode when he told
Speaker 8: you the step and she went to, I'm sorry.
Speaker 2: All right, I want to take our second break because
Speaker 2: I'm gonna leave plenty of time here in this, uh,
Speaker 2: this final segment.
Speaker 3: Would you guys, I'm gonna give you guys a choice.
Speaker 3: What about this?
Speaker 2: Would you rather do a rookie progress report? Or would
Speaker 2: you rather have three players to watch going into a
Speaker 2: big week?
Speaker 3: Here players rookie Okay, so.
Speaker 2: One, let's save that one for before they get big
Speaker 2: before the game on Thursday.
Speaker 3: We'll do that, all right. When we come back on Talking.
Speaker 2: Cowboys, we are going to talk through a rookie progress report,
Speaker 2: a through f some of the guys that have stood
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Speaker 7: expecting a good crowd today.
Speaker 2: When we were driving up there were there were cars
Speaker 2: already lined up on Ventura B. There were a lot
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Speaker 2: good crowd today. Tomorrow is going to be a madhouse.
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Speaker 3: On Wednesday, so we get to break it down for it.
Speaker 2: Wednesday is gonna be a big show of of what
Speaker 2: happened in the joint practice. Who is great, what looked
Speaker 2: looked bad, what looked good, what kind of yeah?
Speaker 3: Who got in a fight?
Speaker 2: As Chris Beam alludes to the camera, We'll get into
Speaker 2: all of that at some point in time.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be.
Speaker 9: It's gonna be our media team versus their media team.
Speaker 9: Beam is gonna start throwing punches, Dude.
Speaker 3: They don't want the smoke, they don't want the beams.
Speaker 3: We get the numbers and we'll land more punches.
Speaker 2: It just looks like, yeah, flutters down here, Yeah, all right, Josh,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna let you start rookie progress report.
Speaker 3: All right, I'm gonna go in order.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna I wanna a grade A through F, and
Speaker 2: I want a quick synopsis of why you give them
Speaker 2: that grade. Let's start and go in order. First round
Speaker 2: pick Tyler Booker at offensive guard.
Speaker 9: I'm giving him a solid B, solid B, similar to
Speaker 9: B B last. I think he didn't wow to start
Speaker 9: the training camp. I don't think he's wowed necessarily here.
Speaker 9: He's been solid. He's had some really great reps and
Speaker 9: some really like not questionable. He's had some if he days,
Speaker 9: you know, good days, bad days, but I imagine it
Speaker 9: comes together throughout the season. I think you can rely
Speaker 9: on a guy like this with that much confidence. At
Speaker 9: this point, Patrick, I'm given Taylor Booker B plus.
Speaker 8: Not only has he been solid, but there are certain
Speaker 8: things about his game that impresses me even more over
Speaker 8: what I've saw, what I've seen from his Alabama tape.
Speaker 8: He is, in fact, or has the potential to be
Speaker 8: a road grader at the NFL level. When it comes
Speaker 8: to those screenplays, I know one of the knocks, would
Speaker 8: you know to those who didn't scout him, correctly said, oh, well,
Speaker 8: he can't really move. H He's got motion on those
Speaker 8: screenplays and he's he's often.
Speaker 2: At six throwout draft scouts out there like that, because
Speaker 2: that was one of my knocks too, is he didn't
Speaker 2: move very well.
Speaker 3: That's in college, but they didn't let him move very well.
Speaker 3: That they didn't put it on tape.
Speaker 1: That's good.
Speaker 3: Context's keep that in mind.
Speaker 8: But to be fair, I was more so aimin at
Speaker 8: the X scouts, not those who actually put the work in.
Speaker 3: Thank you.
Speaker 8: Okay, let me differentiate, but I'm going to give him
Speaker 8: a B plus. In the run game, he looks like
Speaker 8: he has the potential to be exceptional. In past pro
Speaker 8: He's lost some reps, as every player has across that
Speaker 8: offensive line at some point, including Tyler Smith. Okay, but
Speaker 8: what I've seen more often than not is I've seen
Speaker 8: him win against guys like Osa. I've seen him win
Speaker 8: against Solomon Thomas. So I'm giving him a B plus.
Speaker 8: I think there's room to grow. But man, he's off
Speaker 8: to a really good start.
Speaker 5: Let's start from what I've seen, yep, because I'm just
Speaker 5: now getting to the point where I'm really starting to
Speaker 5: hone in on the guys in the line. I'm I'm
Speaker 5: torn between the B minus and a C plus, and
Speaker 5: the reason being, I have very high standards when it
Speaker 5: comes to first round offensive lineman, and from what I've
Speaker 5: seen from him, I haven't seen that.
Speaker 1: What he was saying on the podcast or whoever's podcast he.
Speaker 3: Was on the death.
Speaker 5: Maybe if I hadn't heard about all that, maybe I
Speaker 5: would have a little bit higher grade.
Speaker 1: But when you say all that, yeah, we will. I
Speaker 1: want to see you.
Speaker 5: Driving dudes through the ground, right Like I just saw
Speaker 5: a Superman every time he hit the ground, concrete busted.
Speaker 5: I want to see guys going through the ground. I
Speaker 5: want to see him using his arms. I've seen him
Speaker 5: use a lot of his pads to block really, so
Speaker 5: he's letting guys into his chest. That's not going to
Speaker 5: work in this league. And I know we're kind of
Speaker 5: eighty seventy five eighty percent of it in practice in
Speaker 5: terms of how hard the lineman can actually go at
Speaker 5: each other, because nobody wants to hit the ground and.
Speaker 2: It's not necessarily pad level. That's his problem. He's still no, no,
Speaker 2: it's just not high. But it's the way that he's
Speaker 2: blocking us. He's like from what I've seen. Again, I'm
Speaker 2: not watching all his reps. It's alligator.
Speaker 5: I've seen a lot of alligator, and you can't have
Speaker 5: that at that position.
Speaker 1: You would get thrown out the club no white tea's.
Speaker 5: So you know, we will get a better sense of
Speaker 5: it tomorrow because it won't be eighty percent. Sorry, I mean,
Speaker 5: even though you don't want to hit the ground, it's
Speaker 5: gonna be a hundred. So you'll know exactly where you
Speaker 5: stand with him tomorrow.
Speaker 2: I'll give him a bee there too, do the same thing.
Speaker 2: He's been solid, hasn't done anything that's concerned me across
Speaker 2: the board, but he also hasn't done anything the wow
Speaker 2: me yet. We haven't seen that wow rep where he's
Speaker 2: throwing people out of the club, no white teas, and
Speaker 2: he's out of throwing around different defensive linemens.
Speaker 3: So we'll kind of stick there with that B grade.
Speaker 3: Moving in the Donovan Azeraki, this should.
Speaker 5: Be a pretty easy one going in Isaiah. I'm going
Speaker 5: with the A yeah. I just think that he has won.
Speaker 5: Only reason why he's not an A plus is because
Speaker 5: I haven't seen the plethora of moves yet. I've seen
Speaker 5: him win with a yeah. I've seen him move with
Speaker 5: a win with a couple of different variations, but not
Speaker 5: I don't think that he has a whole bag of
Speaker 5: moves yet, and that'll come right.
Speaker 1: He's a young gun.
Speaker 5: But what he does have in his bag he's been
Speaker 5: winning with, and that a speed as quickness as his
Speaker 5: acceleration off the boss, timing the first step, his ability
Speaker 5: to dip, he's a problem. I'm looking forward to him
Speaker 5: being in that that wave of defensive lineman that can
Speaker 5: really get out through the quarterback.
Speaker 1: Yeah, everything Isaiah said, it's an A for me. With Zraku,
Speaker 1: it's an A.
Speaker 8: Yes, he still has some work to do, but again,
Speaker 8: coming out of entering his first NFL training camp, having
Speaker 8: the arsenal that he has, being the technician that he is,
Speaker 8: it is not often that you see that with a guy,
Speaker 8: also a guy who's not.
Speaker 1: Coming from a power program. Right.
Speaker 8: So, yeah, he led the nation in sex, but that
Speaker 8: was one of the knocks that some people had to
Speaker 8: him as oh, well he's coming out of a Boston college.
Speaker 1: It's translating against NFL players.
Speaker 8: So I'm giving Donovan Ezrakud a can't wait to see
Speaker 8: what this young man can do going forward.
Speaker 9: Like an Emma Stone movie. It's an easy a. I
Speaker 9: did a Patrick Walker just then. No, Absolutely, he's a guy.
Speaker 9: He's that first step is exactly what you think it is.
Speaker 9: It's exactly what you're hearing about. If you're watching on Twitter,
Speaker 9: if you're looking at camp captures on Dallas Cowboys dot com,
Speaker 9: it is an article. It is just impressive, simply, and
Speaker 9: he looks like a first round pick. He doesn't look
Speaker 9: like a second round pick. It's insane to see. How
Speaker 9: just is that what I'm looking for?
Speaker 3: He is just already there. He's already arrived.
Speaker 9: He's arrived a verified star at this point in camp.
Speaker 4: Would love to see a translate on the field.
Speaker 2: We'll skip over Savonne Rebel since he's heard and inactive.
Speaker 3: Let's go. Let's go straight to Jaden Blue Texas.
Speaker 4: Josh, I'll let you start, all right, I think so
Speaker 4: far you got to say B plus.
Speaker 9: I mean, he's getting reps with the ones. You know,
Speaker 9: you'll love to see that. You love to see a
Speaker 9: guy that's able to dual threat.
Speaker 4: At running back.
Speaker 9: He's catching passes one handed at that He's going to
Speaker 9: be a threat in many ways. And when we talked
Speaker 9: about like a you know, potential running back lineup. He
Speaker 9: was like my third down guy. I think you're gonna
Speaker 9: see him a lot this season.
Speaker 4: I really do. But I don't want to see him
Speaker 4: come off the field in the preseason. I really don't.
Speaker 8: I think it's for me right now. It's a see
Speaker 8: with a lot of potential. A c first several practices,
Speaker 8: which include unpadded pre This is and to be fair
Speaker 8: to Jay and Blue, you can't really tell a lot
Speaker 8: in unpadded practices from the running back position. But even
Speaker 8: when paddit practice is fired up, it was a It
Speaker 8: was a lot of Javonte Williams and Miles Sanders getting
Speaker 8: those first team reps, and then Cavante Turpin would step
Speaker 8: in get those handoffs, and then they kind of mixed
Speaker 8: in Jay and Blue with Phil Malfa and Hunter Lifkey
Speaker 8: from there. So to Josh's point, yes, we are now
Speaker 8: seeing Jayden Blue in the first team and it's exciting
Speaker 8: to see. But it's also because two of your running
Speaker 8: backs are injured. So that makes me wonder, if Deuce
Speaker 8: Vaughan and Miles Sanders are not both injured, is Jay
Speaker 8: and Blue still getting those first team reps? I don't know,
Speaker 8: maybe maybe not, but the flashes he's he's delivering in
Speaker 8: the opportunities that he's being given. More so as these
Speaker 8: days progress, that's what has him on the upward trajectory.
Speaker 8: So I believe he can finish this camp on an
Speaker 8: A for me. But right now he's split in the difference.
Speaker 8: He's he's definitely on the upswing right.
Speaker 1: Now though, B plus for me.
Speaker 5: Man, I think he's he's shown the best vision out
Speaker 5: of all the running backs to date.
Speaker 1: For me, I know everybody want to talk about his speed.
Speaker 5: I don't even want to get to a speed yet
Speaker 5: when he gets out, you know, for those first two levels,
Speaker 5: he's a he's a problem obviously, but his vision has
Speaker 5: been what has impressed me, and as any running back,
Speaker 5: whether you're a power back or your scat back or
Speaker 5: your speed whatever kind of back you want to be,
Speaker 5: vision is essential.
Speaker 1: His patients and vision have been the best to me
Speaker 1: out of that at that room, I.
Speaker 3: Blue you're trying to start that, aren't you?
Speaker 6: No?
Speaker 2: The uh I put an article on Dallas Cowboys dot
Speaker 2: Com yesterday High five and it was five players with
Speaker 2: the biggest opportunity going into a big week, and he
Speaker 2: was on the list because he has a chance if
Speaker 2: he breaks a run. Yep, either at tomorrow or going
Speaker 2: into Saturday's game. You break a big run, you have
Speaker 2: that speed, you have that vision, you put up good numbers.
Speaker 3: All of a sudden, this wider's early.
Speaker 2: Excuse me, this running back competition turns from the veterans
Speaker 2: to oh, look at this rookie who's got.
Speaker 1: Some fifty three. He's getting closer preseason start.
Speaker 5: The thing is, people, whenever you have speed, I know
Speaker 5: we have blow three whenever we else, people kind of
Speaker 5: rely on that, and right they trying to get outside
Speaker 5: a lot of.
Speaker 3: Times he's not doing No, he's in between the tackles
Speaker 3: very like so is.
Speaker 5: He's showing a lot of maturity in terms of his
Speaker 5: ability and his responsibilities.
Speaker 2: That's a running back, all right, rapid fire, no description.
Speaker 2: Just give me a grade here, Shamar James Patrick.
Speaker 1: Uh C.
Speaker 8: I'm seeing him hold on, I'm seeing him start to
Speaker 8: come on. I'm seeing him start to come on now
Speaker 8: toward the it's not entirely said.
Speaker 3: I said, no description. We got a rapid fire through this.
Speaker 3: But but finish your thought first.
Speaker 1: He's on the upswing, on the swing.
Speaker 3: I get it.
Speaker 4: B minus. I think mainly because the pads have just
Speaker 4: come on.
Speaker 3: Okay, B plus, B plus I'm there, B plus. I
Speaker 3: think he's looked good.
Speaker 4: He doesn't need to come off the field though.
Speaker 2: Johnny Cornelius offensive line out of Oregon Johnny Cornelius B.
Speaker 1: I'm pushing him.
Speaker 4: I haven't watched so much B minus C minus.
Speaker 3: Okay, C minus is where I was thinking. J Toya
Speaker 3: U C l A.
Speaker 1: Patrick B plus. I need to see him on the
Speaker 1: first team more often. Okay, but god, I like what
Speaker 1: I'm saying.
Speaker 4: See I'm gonna be B minus for me.
Speaker 3: Okay, uh, film offa Clemson.
Speaker 1: C plus plus.
Speaker 8: Minus and not necessarily because of him. That's just he's
Speaker 8: not getting as many opportunities.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Tommy A. King Bisote, Maryland C.
Speaker 9: Minus C plus, I just haven't seen very much of them,
Speaker 9: to be honest with you, minus, I.
Speaker 3: Want to see more. I've seen more Ja Toya than
Speaker 3: I have. Agreed, Tommy A.
Speaker 2: King Bisote, I still want to see more from both
Speaker 2: guys across the board. Sorry, we had to blow through
Speaker 2: those last couple of ones to get through here.
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Speaker 2: Well, that's why they're listening, you know, That's why they're
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Speaker 2: back on Wins, bringing him down the entire joint practice
Speaker 2: that does happen tomorrow. We'll have some extra training camp
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