1 00:00:03,240 --> 00:00:03,680 Speaker 1: The following. 2 00:00:03,800 --> 00:00:05,760 Speaker 2: He is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and 3 00:00:05,800 --> 00:00:07,600 Speaker 2: the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 4 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:12,520 Speaker 3: Cowboys. 5 00:00:12,600 --> 00:00:18,360 Speaker 2: This he's Talking Cowboys Training live from Dallas Cowboys Training 6 00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:22,560 Speaker 2: Camp in Oxnard, California. 7 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:26,599 Speaker 4: Six past second Poti Today. 8 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:32,720 Speaker 5: Touchdown and now your hosts Isaiah Standback, Patrick Walker, Josh 9 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:35,480 Speaker 5: Rodriguez and Kyle Yeomans. 10 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:41,200 Speaker 6: It's a Monday morning edition of Talking Cowboys presented by 11 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:45,479 Speaker 6: Black Rifle Coffee Company, live from Oxnard, California and the 12 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:49,880 Speaker 6: River Ridge Sports Complex site of training camp twenty twenty five. 13 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:52,360 Speaker 7: We've got the whole casting crew ready for you to 14 00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:57,000 Speaker 7: rock today with Isaiah Standback, Patrick Nocy Walker, Josh Rodriguez, 15 00:00:57,280 --> 00:00:59,160 Speaker 7: my man Chris Beam in the back. 16 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 3: We've got the the sound playing already. The music is here. 17 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:06,120 Speaker 2: The Cowboys are back on the practice field for what 18 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 2: is officially, gentlemen, a game week. 19 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:13,839 Speaker 3: It is a game week in Oxnard. 20 00:01:13,959 --> 00:01:16,600 Speaker 2: The Cowboys not only with the joint practice on Tuesday 21 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:19,280 Speaker 2: against the Rams, but on Saturday they take on the 22 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:23,840 Speaker 2: Rams at Sofi Stadium. Glad you're with us, and gentlemen, 23 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 2: it feels a little different around here. 24 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:26,720 Speaker 3: Maybe it's just the. 25 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 2: Song and the atmosphere set that's in the background, but 26 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:32,640 Speaker 2: for the most part, it's going to be Uh, it's 27 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:34,840 Speaker 2: a different feel this week for this Cowboys team. 28 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:36,400 Speaker 1: Why does it feel different than you, Kyle? We never 29 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:37,400 Speaker 1: get to ask you questions? 30 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:38,280 Speaker 3: Well, then ask me. 31 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 1: Let's know what. Why is it a different feel around here? 32 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:42,720 Speaker 3: Because we get to see. 33 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:45,160 Speaker 2: Our team hit somebody else, We get to see someone 34 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:48,640 Speaker 2: else get laid out by Malie Hooker, we. 35 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:51,360 Speaker 3: Get to see you. I'm tense, I'm ready to go. 36 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:52,440 Speaker 3: It's an intense week. 37 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 1: A safe place. You know that, right, It is a 38 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:54,559 Speaker 1: safe place. 39 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 3: It's always a safe place. 40 00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 1: Its big brock lesnar energy. 41 00:01:57,360 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 3: Right. Oh, okay that he was a Hall of Famer. 42 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:01,040 Speaker 1: No, this is. 43 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 4: Right, hot friend energy. 44 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:07,360 Speaker 1: It came back. 45 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 3: Summer changing jo. How was Summer Slam? Everybody? 46 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:18,720 Speaker 1: It was a good Uh. It ended spectacularly before this Country. 47 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:20,920 Speaker 3: No, I mean it was some hesitation, it was. 48 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:24,359 Speaker 8: It started off both nights started off great, dipped, had 49 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:27,720 Speaker 8: some filler that was quite mid, and then popped off with. 50 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:30,400 Speaker 4: I always checks in about our wrestling like a. 51 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 3: Strange did you guys have far? 52 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 4: Are you winning? 53 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 1: Son? 54 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:40,240 Speaker 5: Extremely contrub But to get back to your question, sorry, 55 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:43,359 Speaker 5: I'm looking forward to seeing the Rams. I love when 56 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:46,640 Speaker 5: the Rams and the Cowboys practice have their joint practice 57 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 5: because it is very competitive, very competitive. They have some 58 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 5: dudes on their team as a very well coached team, 59 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 5: we know they are talented. 60 00:02:56,120 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 1: They have some new additions that are going to test out. 61 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 5: Not only are are obviously our offensive line got tested 62 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:07,240 Speaker 5: last year here with their defensive young and young and verse, 63 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:10,160 Speaker 5: but now our cornerbacks, which we know that room is 64 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:14,080 Speaker 5: a little bit depth challenged at this point with all 65 00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:16,360 Speaker 5: the injuries that they have going on here in Dallas, 66 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 5: They're gonna get challenged by Pooka, Nakua Davonte Adams, and 67 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:21,360 Speaker 5: that's gonna be a sight to see. I'm looking forward 68 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 5: to seeing those one on one opportunities, not only in 69 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 5: the team sessions, but those one on ones because you 70 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 5: really get to see guys get exposed. 71 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 1: On both sides. 72 00:03:29,720 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 5: So I'm looking forward to all the competition revolving around 73 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 5: joint practice. 74 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:34,520 Speaker 8: But it's like Isaiah said that there's a lot of 75 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:36,680 Speaker 8: new additions for the Cowboys, and the question is can 76 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 8: they stand the ring. When you're talking about Jared Vers 77 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:42,720 Speaker 8: and you're talking about the addition of Dante Davante Adams, 78 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 8: along with Will and Nicola and I mean the we 79 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:49,920 Speaker 8: talked about the cornerbacks position with the Cowboys. We said 80 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 8: this coming into camp, and the situation hasn't improved her 81 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 8: kyer Elam. Notwithstanding, you're starting to see a little bit 82 00:03:56,600 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 8: of shine from some of these younger guys like a 83 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 8: Keimon Hall. Andrew Booth had a good practice a couple 84 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 8: practices ago, but he's nursing all that working back from 85 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 8: an injury. As far as getting back a hundred percent 86 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 8: s gonerbacks group is going to get tested real early. 87 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 8: And here we are, and we talk about these young guys, 88 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 8: they're going to see preseason reps. Now, granted, in the preseason, 89 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 8: they're not going to be going against Devonte Adams, they're 90 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 8: not going to be going against pookin the cool but 91 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:19,240 Speaker 8: they're going to be going against a talented wide receiver 92 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:21,719 Speaker 8: corp who's coached up by I guess who, Sean McVay, 93 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:24,359 Speaker 8: who can scheme some things open offensive line. 94 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:25,800 Speaker 1: We talked about Jerry Verse. 95 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:28,960 Speaker 8: It doesn't get any better from there, right, So we'll 96 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:31,720 Speaker 8: see what they do as early as tomorrow Tuesday, when 97 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 8: they go up against them in the scrimmage. 98 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 1: That's when the Cowboys. 99 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:36,960 Speaker 8: Will officially get to hit someone other than their own 100 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:38,599 Speaker 8: teammates for the first time. 101 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:40,800 Speaker 1: So I'm interested to see that too, love to see that. 102 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:43,599 Speaker 9: And the Rams are a team that's constantly sort of 103 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:45,400 Speaker 9: in the mix. I mean, they're coming off of a 104 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 9: divisional loss, but they did not start off the season 105 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:50,919 Speaker 9: very well. They didn't look great throughout the season. But 106 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:53,400 Speaker 9: a big thing at least that I remember from last 107 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:56,520 Speaker 9: year is when they came into our facility and they 108 00:04:56,560 --> 00:04:58,440 Speaker 9: practice against us, we they kind of. 109 00:04:58,360 --> 00:05:00,320 Speaker 4: Beat us up a little bit. It didn't look great. 110 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 9: We looked a little sloppy, and they were kind of 111 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:04,279 Speaker 9: big dog in us. And this is something that Nate 112 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:07,280 Speaker 9: Newton pointed out to me and felt like, you know, 113 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:09,120 Speaker 9: that was the writing on the wall of like this 114 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:10,560 Speaker 9: team is not ready. 115 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 4: To be a dog. 116 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 9: Now you have a chance to defend your honor here 117 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:19,680 Speaker 9: in Oxnard. This is our town, right So I think 118 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:22,839 Speaker 9: at least when you have that, you can compare it 119 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 9: to last year. You can say, if we're showing out 120 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:28,360 Speaker 9: in practice this time, it's going to be a lot 121 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:29,719 Speaker 9: different than it is for the season. 122 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:31,040 Speaker 4: Hopefully it's indicative of that. 123 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:34,359 Speaker 9: But like you said, pointing out Keemon Hall to a 124 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:36,000 Speaker 9: guy that you really want to see play well in 125 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:39,200 Speaker 9: the preseason and just in practice in general. Hopefully it 126 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:42,040 Speaker 9: doesn't take too many preseason snaps, but just in general. 127 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:45,680 Speaker 5: Yeah, And I want to kind of preface this conversation 128 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:47,840 Speaker 5: for the people that are listening at home. The reason 129 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:50,680 Speaker 5: why we put so much emphasis on these joint practices 130 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 5: is because this is really the first and only opportunity 131 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:56,839 Speaker 5: that you get throughout all of training camp to see 132 00:05:56,920 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 5: where your team that's going to be on the field 133 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:01,960 Speaker 5: their regular season, where they stand. 134 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:02,320 Speaker 3: Yep. 135 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:05,360 Speaker 5: This is the only time that you'll see Ceedee Lamb, 136 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 5: George Pickens and everybody else as a starter going full tilt, 137 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:12,880 Speaker 5: not to the ground, not full tackling, but full tilt 138 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:15,119 Speaker 5: against the competition that they will face when the regular 139 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:18,800 Speaker 5: season approaches. Other than this practice, this one practice, they 140 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:21,880 Speaker 5: will not see that level of competition outside of their 141 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:23,680 Speaker 5: team again until games matter. 142 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the big thing. 143 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:28,680 Speaker 2: So we've got a month between Tuesday, a month exactly 144 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:31,920 Speaker 2: from today until Game one against. 145 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:33,120 Speaker 3: The Philadelphia Eagles. 146 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:36,440 Speaker 2: But tomorrow it'll be thirty days out until then, and 147 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 2: so you've got a long time to see it. But 148 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 2: you'll get to see a really good snipe of it. 149 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 2: Of it and to y'all's point, I mean, you look 150 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 2: at the roster from the Rams and they probably say 151 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:48,440 Speaker 2: the same thing vice versa to a certain extent, but 152 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:51,120 Speaker 2: they're playmakers at every level, and so it's gonna challenge you. 153 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 2: I'm excited to see what the run defense looks like, 154 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 2: the interior of our defensive line, the Mazi Smiths, the 155 00:06:57,120 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 2: Solomon thomas Is, the j joy Is who's had a. 156 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:01,680 Speaker 3: Good camp so far. 157 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:03,800 Speaker 2: All of those guys go up against the stable of 158 00:07:03,839 --> 00:07:05,919 Speaker 2: running backs that I would love to have on our rosters. 159 00:07:06,080 --> 00:07:06,880 Speaker 3: I would love to have. 160 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:09,279 Speaker 2: A Kyrin Williams or a Blake Cora Moor, a Jarquez 161 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:11,280 Speaker 2: Hunter who is a rookie draft pick out of Auburn 162 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 2: this year in the fourth round. 163 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:15,200 Speaker 3: I would love all of those things to come to fruition. 164 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:16,880 Speaker 2: But now we get to see how we stop them 165 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 2: and how you can stand up against them. So, along 166 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:21,720 Speaker 2: with the receivers that you guys mentioned, with Nikoua and 167 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:24,080 Speaker 2: Adams and Jordan Whittington who tore up Dallas in the 168 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:28,960 Speaker 2: preseason last year, I'm excited to see what the depth 169 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 2: of our defense looks like. Because there have been some 170 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:33,080 Speaker 2: good things that we've seen, there have been some some 171 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:34,960 Speaker 2: not so good things that we've seen on the field, 172 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 2: and we're going to get all of that tested going 173 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:39,000 Speaker 2: into Tuesday. One of the not so good things that 174 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:42,840 Speaker 2: we've seen throughout camp has been the Micah Parsons saga. 175 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 2: Micah Parsons edge rusher All Pro. He wears number eleven 176 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:50,320 Speaker 2: when he wants to put on the jersey. 177 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:50,680 Speaker 1: I've seen it. 178 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 3: Yep. He's out here, yep. 179 00:07:54,160 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 1: Pretty good at football arguably. 180 00:07:56,120 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 2: And since we were last on this show, of course, 181 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:02,320 Speaker 2: we were last on the show, breaking news, of course, 182 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:05,960 Speaker 2: to hit right around. He has requested a trade for 183 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:10,320 Speaker 2: Ellis Cowboys releasing a statement on X I'm sure if 184 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 2: you're a Cowboys fan and you're listening to Talking Cowboys 185 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 2: about now, you've probably seen the post. 186 00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 3: You've probably heard one hundred different opinions on it. 187 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:19,920 Speaker 2: But guess what, we haven't talked about it on our show, 188 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:22,160 Speaker 2: So I want to get your opinion on it. 189 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 3: The We'll start just by the request. 190 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 2: We'll get into the back and forth here in a 191 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 2: moment and maybe the impact of it all, but just 192 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:32,320 Speaker 2: your thought on the request initially, and remember this is 193 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 2: a show where we do what keep you one, we 194 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:37,480 Speaker 2: say that is what we do. 195 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:39,320 Speaker 3: So Isaiah, I'll let you start. 196 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:41,079 Speaker 5: Try to say that for Friday's Kyle, but being that 197 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:42,680 Speaker 5: as a Monday, I'll give him a sample of that. 198 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:47,400 Speaker 1: Okay, I think that I take that back. Let me 199 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 1: start over. 200 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:51,400 Speaker 5: I believe I believe Jerry Madelon was on my shoulder. 201 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:56,640 Speaker 5: I believe I believe that this was if this is 202 00:08:56,679 --> 00:09:00,600 Speaker 5: more to comeback, Michaeh. Parsons has been using all of 203 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:04,520 Speaker 5: his moves right hidden, mashing all the buttons, and then 204 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:07,319 Speaker 5: finally he sees the code and the and the sequence 205 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:09,600 Speaker 5: in which he has to enter in his final finish 206 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:15,080 Speaker 5: him move, and this was his finisher move. Yeah, for 207 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:19,600 Speaker 5: the Dallas exactly for the Dallas Cowboys. And the reason 208 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:23,000 Speaker 5: why I say that is because, as a player who 209 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:28,880 Speaker 5: is contractually bound to an organization and a team in 210 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:30,839 Speaker 5: his current state, there's only so. 211 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 1: Much you can do. 212 00:09:32,760 --> 00:09:36,800 Speaker 5: And you've communicated through the media, you've communicated directly with 213 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:40,880 Speaker 5: the individuals that are a part of the negotiations. You 214 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:43,120 Speaker 5: feel like you're trying to treading water, like you're running 215 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:45,440 Speaker 5: on a hamster wheel and nothing's really getting done. There's 216 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:48,319 Speaker 5: no progress. You want a deal done. They're very patient. 217 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:50,400 Speaker 5: They don't have a sense of urgency, but you do. 218 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:54,000 Speaker 5: You have to pull your card. And if you're playing Uno, 219 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:56,199 Speaker 5: this is your wild card. This is this is the 220 00:09:56,240 --> 00:09:58,520 Speaker 5: one that you've been holding on to until you absolutely 221 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 5: needed it, because bam, here we go. Oh this is 222 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:03,320 Speaker 5: all I have left, And the wild card is I'm 223 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:06,760 Speaker 5: going to put the Dallas Cowboys in a position in 224 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:11,200 Speaker 5: these negotiations where I can remove myself and I now 225 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:14,720 Speaker 5: can allow the fans and the media to negotiate on 226 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:17,840 Speaker 5: my behalf. There is nothing else that needs to be 227 00:10:17,880 --> 00:10:21,400 Speaker 5: said for Micah Parsons. The organization feels the way they 228 00:10:21,400 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 5: feel they have all the leverage they have him in 229 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:27,320 Speaker 5: a current contract. They don't feel the need to have 230 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:30,680 Speaker 5: a sense of urgency in this regard. And you're already 231 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:33,000 Speaker 5: heard Jerry say I don't mind him not being out 232 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:34,440 Speaker 5: there right now because I don't want him to get hurt. 233 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:37,800 Speaker 1: So the Joneses in the organization are perfectly fine. But 234 00:10:37,800 --> 00:10:39,559 Speaker 1: in terms of Micah, this. 235 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 5: Is smart from my stance as a former player, from 236 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:44,600 Speaker 5: his behalf, because now he literally has to say nothing else. 237 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:47,679 Speaker 5: But we will talk about it every other platform will 238 00:10:47,679 --> 00:10:50,319 Speaker 5: talk about it. The fans will be yelling his name 239 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:53,559 Speaker 5: whenever Jerry walks out the practice Jerry Jones and he 240 00:10:53,559 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 5: cans just sit back, sign sign you know, fake checks 241 00:10:57,160 --> 00:10:59,960 Speaker 5: on the sideline, kiss babies, and just let everybody else 242 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:01,440 Speaker 5: do his bidding for him. 243 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:05,520 Speaker 8: So Isaiah makes a bunch of great points. I'll segue 244 00:11:05,640 --> 00:11:08,320 Speaker 8: off of one of his points. This is Michael Parson's 245 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:12,520 Speaker 8: playing the proverbial wild card. Okay, problem is the Cowboys 246 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:15,600 Speaker 8: have to draw for Yeah, okay, you have upwards of 247 00:11:15,760 --> 00:11:18,079 Speaker 8: three years of control between this fifth year option and 248 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:20,880 Speaker 8: you can franchise tag him twice before you know. Now, 249 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:22,680 Speaker 8: I don't believe it gets to that point. Let me 250 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:24,720 Speaker 8: be clear. I've said this before. I'm gonna say it again. 251 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:26,760 Speaker 8: I felt this way pre trade request. I feel this 252 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:28,960 Speaker 8: way right now. I believe this deal gets done. Yeah, 253 00:11:29,040 --> 00:11:31,319 Speaker 8: I do believe the deal gets done. Everything you're seeing 254 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:35,240 Speaker 8: right now is the game within the game. And that's 255 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:38,000 Speaker 8: one thing that Jerry Jones said that was one hundred 256 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:41,200 Speaker 8: percent true. He said, this is the negotiation and no 257 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:43,280 Speaker 8: matter how you slice it, this is not the first 258 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:46,560 Speaker 8: time we've seen this dance with a high profile player 259 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:48,720 Speaker 8: who was arguably the best or one of the best 260 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:51,360 Speaker 8: players at his position when it comes to negotiating with 261 00:11:51,400 --> 00:11:51,960 Speaker 8: the Cowboys. 262 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:52,800 Speaker 1: I can drop the names. 263 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:54,720 Speaker 8: You already know the names, the Dak Prescott, that de 264 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 8: Marcus Lawrences, the City Lambs, to Zach Martins. 265 00:11:57,200 --> 00:11:58,400 Speaker 1: It goes on, It goes on. 266 00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:00,800 Speaker 8: It goes on almost every years, but every year. That's 267 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:07,440 Speaker 8: why the trade request, while meteoric in its impact, didn't 268 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:11,640 Speaker 8: move my needle whatsoever. It immediately made me think of 269 00:12:11,679 --> 00:12:15,280 Speaker 8: Myles Garrett. Hopefully this ends the same way. However, you 270 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:18,840 Speaker 8: saw what Myles Garrett did in formally demanding a trade 271 00:12:18,880 --> 00:12:21,640 Speaker 8: from the Cleveland Browns, and just over thirty days later 272 00:12:22,080 --> 00:12:25,320 Speaker 8: he signed to this massive, record setting deal. Miles and 273 00:12:25,360 --> 00:12:28,880 Speaker 8: Michael Parsons are really good friends. Now, I'm gonna use 274 00:12:28,880 --> 00:12:31,080 Speaker 8: that point to make my next point. One of the 275 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:33,360 Speaker 8: reasons this has gotten to a trade request and it's 276 00:12:33,400 --> 00:12:37,040 Speaker 8: gotten so contentious is it's not just the shots that 277 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:40,040 Speaker 8: are being fired at Michael Parsons as he views it 278 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:42,920 Speaker 8: and as his agent views it. It's also the shots 279 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:45,800 Speaker 8: that are being fired at Trayvon Diggs. Yeah, who's Michael 280 00:12:45,840 --> 00:12:47,520 Speaker 8: Parsons's best friend in this locker room? 281 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:49,440 Speaker 1: Trayvon Diggs. 282 00:12:50,280 --> 00:12:52,840 Speaker 8: A little over a week ago, they stood on this 283 00:12:52,880 --> 00:12:56,760 Speaker 8: field and did a combo pack interview for Solidarity. 284 00:12:57,200 --> 00:12:58,560 Speaker 1: So I'm here to tell you. 285 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:03,800 Speaker 8: Parsons is taking all of this into context, and he 286 00:13:03,880 --> 00:13:07,000 Speaker 8: simply feels a way about the organization at the moment, 287 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:09,680 Speaker 8: not simply because of his contract issue, but also because 288 00:13:09,679 --> 00:13:12,040 Speaker 8: of the contingent between Trayvon Diggs. 289 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:13,480 Speaker 1: And the front office over the rehab stuff. 290 00:13:14,080 --> 00:13:15,840 Speaker 8: All of that is to say, now that I've given 291 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:18,240 Speaker 8: you all that context and something to think about, I 292 00:13:18,280 --> 00:13:20,200 Speaker 8: am unmoved by this trade request. 293 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:22,000 Speaker 1: I wish it didn't get to this point. 294 00:13:22,800 --> 00:13:26,280 Speaker 8: I believe the Dallas Cowboys would be it would be 295 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:29,960 Speaker 8: nothing short of professional malepractice to trade away Michael Parsons 296 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:31,679 Speaker 8: at least for anything short of and I kind of 297 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:34,400 Speaker 8: joked about this before on inside training camp. If you're 298 00:13:34,440 --> 00:13:38,000 Speaker 8: not giving up two or three planets in this solar system, 299 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:40,080 Speaker 8: it's not We're not even starting the converse. 300 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:42,800 Speaker 5: But you do understand how Dallas fans, not necessarily Dallas 301 00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:45,160 Speaker 5: Cowboys fans, but Dallas sports fans have a little bit 302 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:46,880 Speaker 5: of PTSD. 303 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:49,240 Speaker 3: Because I get. 304 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:57,679 Speaker 8: A fresh woe unfortunately because of how the you know, Mavericks. 305 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:02,320 Speaker 3: We love us. He just signed a deal I don't 306 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:02,640 Speaker 3: want to hear. 307 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:05,760 Speaker 1: So is it impossible. 308 00:14:05,960 --> 00:14:09,520 Speaker 8: No, it's not impossible, because nothing's impossible, But the odds 309 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:13,760 Speaker 8: of it occurring are so meniscw that in my mind 310 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:14,840 Speaker 8: it's not worth entertaining. 311 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:15,920 Speaker 1: Josh, are you losing sleep? 312 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:18,240 Speaker 9: I'm not losing sleep over this, And that was my point. 313 00:14:18,280 --> 00:14:19,880 Speaker 9: I was about to make thank you Isaiah for the 314 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:22,840 Speaker 9: perfect segue, because Jerry talked about it after practice and 315 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:25,480 Speaker 9: he said, don't lose sleep over this. This is I've 316 00:14:25,480 --> 00:14:27,640 Speaker 9: been here a while, I kind of done this a 317 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:29,640 Speaker 9: time or two. This is how the game is played. 318 00:14:29,800 --> 00:14:33,360 Speaker 9: This is how Micah's Parsons is choosing to gain leverage. 319 00:14:33,400 --> 00:14:36,479 Speaker 9: But matter of fact, and as you to have gracefully 320 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:38,840 Speaker 9: pointed out, the Cowboys hold all the leverage they have 321 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:41,360 Speaker 9: controlled this contract over the next three seasons between the 322 00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:43,800 Speaker 9: fifth year option and then of course the two franchise tags. 323 00:14:43,920 --> 00:14:47,000 Speaker 9: And not to mention, the Cowboys have used the franchise 324 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:50,440 Speaker 9: tag as recently as Dak Prescotte. Don't think for a 325 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:53,560 Speaker 9: second that they won't also use it on a Micah Parsons. 326 00:14:54,400 --> 00:14:57,000 Speaker 9: It would be unfortunate, but they will do it if 327 00:14:57,000 --> 00:15:00,800 Speaker 9: they need to. Michael Parsons will not be traded, in 328 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:02,960 Speaker 9: my opinion, to any other team. He will play for 329 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:06,840 Speaker 9: the Dallas Cowboys. If it comes to him wanting to 330 00:15:06,880 --> 00:15:09,240 Speaker 9: set out games or what have you, that would be 331 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:13,560 Speaker 9: obviously a financial risk. But if he feels that way, 332 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:15,520 Speaker 9: I mean more power to him. That's based on what 333 00:15:15,560 --> 00:15:18,680 Speaker 9: the player wants to do and between him and his agent. Now, 334 00:15:18,680 --> 00:15:22,880 Speaker 9: if you consider the fact that here we stand, you know, 335 00:15:23,560 --> 00:15:26,760 Speaker 9: just a few days after the trade request, within thirty days, 336 00:15:26,760 --> 00:15:29,960 Speaker 9: it happened for Miles Garrett. Again, it's just a move, 337 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:31,560 Speaker 9: a part of the move, a part of the move. 338 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:34,000 Speaker 9: This is how the game is played. I'm not phased 339 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:34,800 Speaker 9: by it at anyway. 340 00:15:35,280 --> 00:15:39,040 Speaker 2: I've had conversations with Micah too when hosting certain events 341 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:42,440 Speaker 2: and different things where it's about his money, and even 342 00:15:42,560 --> 00:15:44,840 Speaker 2: before the contract talks were even a thing. This is 343 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:48,160 Speaker 2: going back multiple years now, but one of the things 344 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 2: he talked about was being smart. 345 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:49,920 Speaker 3: With your money. 346 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:51,760 Speaker 2: And one of the things he's doing right now to 347 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:54,040 Speaker 2: show that he cares about being smart with his money 348 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:56,680 Speaker 2: is showing up to training camp, showing up and not 349 00:15:56,720 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 2: taking that fifty thousand dollars fine and standing on the 350 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:02,480 Speaker 2: side at least being their first teammates and being around 351 00:16:02,480 --> 00:16:04,680 Speaker 2: the camp and the facility and the staff and all 352 00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:08,080 Speaker 2: of those different elements. So I find it hard to 353 00:16:08,080 --> 00:16:10,880 Speaker 2: believe he will sit out games. Yeah, that's but that's 354 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:13,440 Speaker 2: the next leverage move, that's the next wild card that 355 00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:17,480 Speaker 2: people aren't necessarily seeing as a possibility. That would be 356 00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:20,720 Speaker 2: where I think the front office could lose a little 357 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:23,240 Speaker 2: bit of leverages if he were to sit out certain games, 358 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:25,360 Speaker 2: because they want him on the field, they want him 359 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:25,600 Speaker 2: as a. 360 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:25,960 Speaker 3: Part of this. 361 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:29,680 Speaker 2: But in order to give up that leverage, or to 362 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:31,760 Speaker 2: gain that leverage, if you're Michael Parsons, you're gonna have 363 00:16:31,760 --> 00:16:34,000 Speaker 2: to give up some cash, and he's going to be 364 00:16:34,080 --> 00:16:35,200 Speaker 2: less smart about his money. 365 00:16:35,240 --> 00:16:37,760 Speaker 8: And I do agree with Kyle in the capacity of 366 00:16:37,880 --> 00:16:40,800 Speaker 8: if Michael Parsons were so inclined if for whatever reason, 367 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:43,200 Speaker 8: the deal is not done by September fourth, and Michael Parsons, 368 00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:45,400 Speaker 8: we're so inclined to miss the first couple of games. 369 00:16:45,400 --> 00:16:48,120 Speaker 8: Those couple of games are against the divisional revels, right, yep. 370 00:16:48,280 --> 00:16:51,640 Speaker 8: Where it's not just one loss equals mathematically one loss. Yeah, 371 00:16:51,640 --> 00:16:53,640 Speaker 8: it's more like one and a half pretty much Okay. 372 00:16:54,440 --> 00:16:57,160 Speaker 8: On top of that, let's just be completely clear. Let's 373 00:16:57,160 --> 00:16:58,800 Speaker 8: be honest. We're saying with our chests, right, let's say 374 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:00,720 Speaker 8: with our chess. Jerry Jones said this time and again, 375 00:17:00,760 --> 00:17:03,200 Speaker 8: and he knows what I'm about to say is true. 376 00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:07,840 Speaker 1: He's mortal, okay, and he's not a spring chicken. 377 00:17:08,200 --> 00:17:11,800 Speaker 8: So if you were to entertain trading Michael Parsons, yeah, 378 00:17:11,840 --> 00:17:14,440 Speaker 8: you get all these draft picks that you hope hopefully 379 00:17:14,480 --> 00:17:16,800 Speaker 8: panned out in the next two, three, four, five years. 380 00:17:17,160 --> 00:17:19,280 Speaker 1: However, again, you're not a. 381 00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:20,959 Speaker 8: Twenty year old, a thirty year old to forty year old, 382 00:17:21,040 --> 00:17:22,399 Speaker 8: not even a fifty year's trying to win now. If 383 00:17:22,440 --> 00:17:27,080 Speaker 8: you're trying to win right now, you just put the 384 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:30,040 Speaker 8: keys to the throne in the hands of Brian Schottenheimer, 385 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:32,360 Speaker 8: who was the first time NFL head coach, and he's 386 00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:34,480 Speaker 8: saying all the right things, and through this point in training, 387 00:17:34,520 --> 00:17:36,080 Speaker 8: cap Brian Schotenheimer's also doing. 388 00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:36,639 Speaker 1: All the right things. 389 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:39,399 Speaker 8: Do you want to take a blade and cut at 390 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:42,679 Speaker 8: one of his proverbial achilles going into his inaugural season 391 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:44,760 Speaker 8: right as far as taking one of the if not 392 00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:47,879 Speaker 8: arguably the best pass rusher off of the field, maybe 393 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:50,639 Speaker 8: for one game, two games, multiple games. So yes, to 394 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:54,400 Speaker 8: your point, Kyle, if Michael Parsons pushes that envelope, yeah, 395 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:56,679 Speaker 8: Jerry could call us bluff. He has three years of 396 00:17:56,760 --> 00:17:58,760 Speaker 8: rights to call his bluff for And so yeah, Michael 397 00:17:58,760 --> 00:18:01,240 Speaker 8: Parson is not going to sit out one entire season, 398 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:04,040 Speaker 8: two entire seasons. This will get resolved. But if Michael 399 00:18:04,080 --> 00:18:06,359 Speaker 8: Parson sits out one or two games and they happen 400 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:09,000 Speaker 8: to be against the Eagles and the Giants and you 401 00:18:09,119 --> 00:18:11,240 Speaker 8: lose those two games, yes. 402 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:13,199 Speaker 9: Let me ask a question real quick, and you just 403 00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:15,760 Speaker 9: alluded to it. The fact that this is happening in 404 00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:18,879 Speaker 9: coach Schottenheimer's inaugural season with the Dallas cow as head coach, 405 00:18:19,280 --> 00:18:21,800 Speaker 9: does this affect the new culture that he's been trying 406 00:18:21,840 --> 00:18:23,840 Speaker 9: to build, Like, you know, I think we're all sort 407 00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:26,480 Speaker 9: of kumbaya coming into this training camp and you've seen 408 00:18:26,520 --> 00:18:30,119 Speaker 9: it out here. Discipline, yelling at players whenever they're getting fights, 409 00:18:30,119 --> 00:18:32,640 Speaker 9: all of that. Does this affect this sort of outside 410 00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:35,200 Speaker 9: noise effect what's happening within that locker room? 411 00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:35,760 Speaker 1: No? No, no. 412 00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:38,520 Speaker 5: As a former player, now you understand business is business, 413 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:41,439 Speaker 5: but the coach is preaching is something completely different. 414 00:18:41,960 --> 00:18:45,680 Speaker 1: This has no impact on the guy's. 415 00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:49,000 Speaker 5: Continuity or you know, culture or any of those none 416 00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:51,640 Speaker 5: of that stuff. Let me let me put this out there, 417 00:18:52,040 --> 00:18:53,720 Speaker 5: and a lot of people might disagree with me, but 418 00:18:53,880 --> 00:18:54,520 Speaker 5: it is what it is. 419 00:18:55,160 --> 00:19:00,320 Speaker 1: Fine. This is a game of chess. But don't know 420 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:01,160 Speaker 1: to chest. 421 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:02,520 Speaker 4: Say it with your face some people. 422 00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:06,040 Speaker 1: Some people plays. 423 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:10,240 Speaker 5: And for those that don't know how to play chess, learn, 424 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:14,120 Speaker 5: I don't play it out. Learn you play checkers right, 425 00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:16,520 Speaker 5: and you can get kings, and you get double double 426 00:19:16,680 --> 00:19:18,320 Speaker 5: when you go across, you trouble jump and do all 427 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:18,680 Speaker 5: the things. 428 00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:19,200 Speaker 1: Listen. 429 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:22,159 Speaker 5: Last year, around this time, there was a gentleman by 430 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:24,960 Speaker 5: the name of who that was sitting out Zach Martin. 431 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:27,680 Speaker 1: Okay in a couple of years back. Yeah, okay, a 432 00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:29,640 Speaker 1: couple years bout last. 433 00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:31,200 Speaker 3: Together. 434 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:35,359 Speaker 8: This is how many people, how many comedies Zach Martin 435 00:19:35,400 --> 00:19:35,719 Speaker 8: sat out? 436 00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:38,440 Speaker 5: If I remember correctly past the joint practice, Yes, yes, 437 00:19:39,040 --> 00:19:40,520 Speaker 5: at the joint practice, the office. 438 00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:46,120 Speaker 1: Line got worked, destroyed, destroyed. There's another joint practice tomorrow, Yeah, 439 00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:46,359 Speaker 1: there is. 440 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:50,639 Speaker 5: I already mentioned on the show that you have an 441 00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:54,640 Speaker 5: idea of where you stand compared to real NFL competition 442 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:56,480 Speaker 5: outside of your team tomorrow. 443 00:19:56,600 --> 00:19:59,360 Speaker 2: I feel more confident in the stable of edge rushers 444 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:01,320 Speaker 2: this year than I did in that offensive line there. 445 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:02,960 Speaker 1: So let's talk about that. 446 00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:04,919 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, if we want to bring it up, 447 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:05,119 Speaker 3: we can. 448 00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:07,040 Speaker 5: I mean, that's what I was alluding to. I was, 449 00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:08,600 Speaker 5: I was heading that way. Thank you very much for 450 00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:11,600 Speaker 5: it for taking over to steerwell there. Sorry, No, that's fine. 451 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:14,920 Speaker 5: If this is a game that's being played, right, we 452 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:16,439 Speaker 5: keep talking about triple Ah, I'm sorry. 453 00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:19,800 Speaker 1: If this is a game that's being played, are you ready, 454 00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:21,200 Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys? 455 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:23,240 Speaker 5: If they have a good showing from a defensive in 456 00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:29,440 Speaker 5: room against the Rams, you have more even more leverage, 457 00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:32,680 Speaker 5: right And if you'r Micah Parsons, no disrespect, not wishing 458 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:34,399 Speaker 5: this upon him, not saying what he would say, but 459 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:36,560 Speaker 5: I would think that you're kind of hoping that they 460 00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:39,600 Speaker 5: don't have a great showing because this shows how much. 461 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:40,320 Speaker 1: That you're needed. 462 00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:41,960 Speaker 3: He's still needed. 463 00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:45,760 Speaker 5: No, No, listen, Micah is Micha and I'm not saying that. Yeah, yeah, 464 00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:48,680 Speaker 5: for sure, But I believe that this is a productive 465 00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:53,320 Speaker 5: room without Micah. It's not a dominant room without Micah, 466 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:55,720 Speaker 5: it's a productive room. You have guys who can rush 467 00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:58,320 Speaker 5: the passer, you're gonna have a great idea of where 468 00:20:58,359 --> 00:21:02,639 Speaker 5: you stand without my tomorrow when they face the Rams. 469 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:03,080 Speaker 3: Yep. 470 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:07,080 Speaker 5: And I think that whatever is happening in these negotiations, 471 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:07,600 Speaker 5: I think. 472 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:10,400 Speaker 1: Tomorrow might have a little bit of. 473 00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:13,199 Speaker 5: An impact on those negotiations based upon the results of 474 00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:15,399 Speaker 5: tomorrow in that room, I will. 475 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:17,200 Speaker 4: I would tend to agree. 476 00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:20,760 Speaker 9: But I think what the big difference between Zach Martin's 477 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:23,160 Speaker 9: ear and Micah's here is that the offensive line depth 478 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:27,800 Speaker 9: was not the defensive depth is. Right now, you're surprised 479 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:30,840 Speaker 9: on how good the depth is here at edge without 480 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:34,600 Speaker 9: Micah that it's it's almost like, you know, Jerry's holding 481 00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:36,880 Speaker 9: the cards at this point to say, like, I think 482 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:37,360 Speaker 9: we're all right. 483 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:38,800 Speaker 1: That's exactly what we can be. 484 00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:40,920 Speaker 4: All right, you obviously do want the best player that's 485 00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:42,040 Speaker 4: on the field on the. 486 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:43,800 Speaker 1: Field, but but I'm not right. 487 00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:45,160 Speaker 3: You're gonna be fine. 488 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:45,760 Speaker 4: You're not in a panic. 489 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:48,080 Speaker 8: You know my problem with it, And you're both right, 490 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:50,960 Speaker 8: you're both rights. And because I'm also can. 491 00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:52,880 Speaker 2: We go to break and yeah kiss on the other side, Yeah, 492 00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:55,720 Speaker 2: we got it. I want to keep this conversation going 493 00:21:55,920 --> 00:22:00,159 Speaker 2: when we come back. Let's talk about is this what 494 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:03,040 Speaker 2: you would consider a hollow trade request? 495 00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:05,560 Speaker 3: Or is there a legitimate frustration there and it's it's 496 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:06,120 Speaker 3: something that. 497 00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:08,960 Speaker 2: Can spill over into the season if it doesn't get 498 00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:11,399 Speaker 2: resolved by midway through training camp. There's a lot of 499 00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:14,399 Speaker 2: questions at hand. 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This segment is brought to you 546 00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:31,919 Speaker 9: by Invisi Line, the official smile of the Dallas Cowboys. 547 00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:35,119 Speaker 9: Kyle Yeomans just had to step out for whatever reason. 548 00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:38,440 Speaker 1: The Coyle just submit a trade request. He did, he did. 549 00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:43,000 Speaker 4: He's he's trying to hold some level. He's refusing to play. 550 00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:44,680 Speaker 4: That's unprofessional. 551 00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:47,600 Speaker 1: He's sitting out, rips. It's a hold in for Calm 552 00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:52,880 Speaker 1: Dereck Eagleton. He needs to off the bench. 553 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:55,439 Speaker 5: Cole sitting out, that's a hold in. We need you 554 00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:56,560 Speaker 5: to fill in, like Jamal Crawford. 555 00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:56,959 Speaker 1: Let's go. 556 00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:01,520 Speaker 5: Let's go, tommyboy cup it for Tommy. 557 00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:02,159 Speaker 4: In the meantime. 558 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:04,600 Speaker 1: That's the fastest Timmy will run in camp. 559 00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:07,120 Speaker 4: Patrick had a point to break. 560 00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:10,520 Speaker 5: That's the fastest Tommy will run. You don't know what 561 00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:13,440 Speaker 5: these two are talking about. Back months ago, maybe six 562 00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:14,560 Speaker 5: months ago. I don't know when it was. 563 00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:18,320 Speaker 1: These two challenge each other. No, no, that's incorrect, Tommy. 564 00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:20,880 Speaker 1: Tommy challenged me, You challenged. 565 00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:21,520 Speaker 3: Him, challenge him? 566 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:26,760 Speaker 5: Do you Tommy challenge forty yard dad? 567 00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:28,800 Speaker 1: In heart breaks? He said, he'd beat me. Are you 568 00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:31,159 Speaker 1: going to stand on business? And Carrie with that? 569 00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:31,680 Speaker 3: Absolutely? 570 00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:33,680 Speaker 1: When is this happening? Whenever you want? 571 00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:38,240 Speaker 4: He said, whatever is it happening? He's standing on business. 572 00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:41,800 Speaker 1: You guys are not clock could have done it for 573 00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:43,160 Speaker 1: last episode. 574 00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:45,440 Speaker 8: Tommy was up here copping please, so now it's chest 575 00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:46,240 Speaker 8: is poked out again. 576 00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:50,000 Speaker 3: Let the error please. Honestly, I don't even remember what 577 00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:51,160 Speaker 3: we said the other day. 578 00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:54,240 Speaker 5: Today after practice, after you guys finish your interviews, well, 579 00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:56,600 Speaker 5: we got to write, so after work, you say, after 580 00:25:57,119 --> 00:25:58,480 Speaker 5: cool down? By then, I don't I feel like you 581 00:25:58,480 --> 00:25:59,080 Speaker 5: guys gonna. 582 00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:03,119 Speaker 1: You realize working holding Thanks guys, appreciate it. 583 00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:05,359 Speaker 3: Tommy, you realize work is work? Right? 584 00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:08,440 Speaker 8: Let me get so we can do this after the show, 585 00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:13,680 Speaker 8: not after the show, because we got the officials. 586 00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:13,400 Speaker 4: Of lots of excuses. 587 00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:16,080 Speaker 1: I'm that's all I'm We're hearing a lot of punning 588 00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:16,560 Speaker 1: going over. 589 00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:19,080 Speaker 8: Now you're hearing me getting my bag bag, first ass 590 00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:19,960 Speaker 8: kickings we got. 591 00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:21,639 Speaker 1: We got forty five minutes between you and that meeting. 592 00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:24,920 Speaker 1: No you don't your math and math we. 593 00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:27,720 Speaker 5: Get off the air of forty five? Should your meeting's 594 00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:28,200 Speaker 5: at thirty? 595 00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:28,840 Speaker 3: We should? 596 00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:32,879 Speaker 5: It only takes five seconds around your forty maybe sixteen 597 00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:33,400 Speaker 5: for some of y'all. 598 00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:35,760 Speaker 3: Okay, so are we talking about this scenario? 599 00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:38,480 Speaker 5: Is that why happened Whenever he said it, coul happened today? 600 00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:39,800 Speaker 5: I said why not right after this? 601 00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:43,240 Speaker 8: And I said, because we have this and then that 602 00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:47,080 Speaker 8: I said today after player interviews and we finished off. 603 00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:49,280 Speaker 1: Right and whatever. I don't see what what makes it 604 00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:50,560 Speaker 1: sounds like Brian Inger? 605 00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:52,480 Speaker 3: What's that he's punting? 606 00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:53,240 Speaker 1: You know? 607 00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:56,200 Speaker 8: I love it because I have on record as saying 608 00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:57,919 Speaker 8: we could do it this afternoon. 609 00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:00,680 Speaker 1: Okay, so we're doing it. I just need a time, 610 00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:01,280 Speaker 1: and you can't. 611 00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:03,840 Speaker 8: Do it this afternoon. I don't care. Get the smoke 612 00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:07,000 Speaker 8: whenever you want the smoke. Four o'clock on the grill. 613 00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:10,080 Speaker 1: Okay, cool, four thirty, four fifteen, four o'clock. 614 00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:12,280 Speaker 3: I'm trying to set a time. I'm trying to set 615 00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:12,560 Speaker 3: a time. 616 00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:15,639 Speaker 1: Four o'clock out, come, come see me, four o'clock. 617 00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:19,359 Speaker 2: This afternoon, it'll be Patrick No s Walker versus Tommy. 618 00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:22,960 Speaker 3: Just remember I was who's gonna win, Who's gonna win? Yeah, 619 00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:23,880 Speaker 3: I put it on there. 620 00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:25,520 Speaker 5: I was gonna put a pole on excell who's gonna 621 00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:29,600 Speaker 5: win that race? Just remember I was my own business. 622 00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:31,080 Speaker 3: Four o'clock Pacific, six o'clock Central. 623 00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:35,040 Speaker 8: Now, as I was saying about Michael, Okay, yeah, the 624 00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:39,360 Speaker 8: cliffhanger from the previous spillover. Yeah, the spill over excellent 625 00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:43,280 Speaker 8: points on the cowboys. Will will love to see what 626 00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:47,359 Speaker 8: this group of past Russians can do absent Michael, the 627 00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:49,639 Speaker 8: Los Angeles Rams and the scrimmage. And I, for one, 628 00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:52,000 Speaker 8: I'm interested to see if a guy like Donovanezrock who 629 00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:54,320 Speaker 8: can continue his strong camp. I'm curious to see if 630 00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:57,359 Speaker 8: Sam Williams can, if Dante Foller can continue going. And 631 00:27:57,400 --> 00:28:00,119 Speaker 8: we know Dante camp because he's done it and a 632 00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:04,160 Speaker 8: half of the money. But my counterpoint is you said 633 00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:08,400 Speaker 8: something about them being good enough without Mike. He wants 634 00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:11,600 Speaker 8: to see if they're at least good enough. Yeah, Okay, 635 00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:13,840 Speaker 8: I'm kind of tired of good enough around here. 636 00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:17,399 Speaker 1: I hear that. I'm real, real tired enough. Like what 637 00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:17,960 Speaker 1: is good enough? 638 00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:20,200 Speaker 8: It's gotten you eight and eight has gotten you nine 639 00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:23,119 Speaker 8: to seven and twelve and fours. And then you get 640 00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:24,840 Speaker 8: to the playoffs, and yeah, you were good enough to 641 00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:26,880 Speaker 8: get to the playoffs, or you're good enough to win 642 00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:29,440 Speaker 8: this game against this opponent, but then when it comes 643 00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:32,040 Speaker 8: to playing an elite contender, then you're not good. I 644 00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:34,600 Speaker 8: don't want to love, you say, and you're making a 645 00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:39,360 Speaker 8: valid point. My counterpoint is I am no longer accepting 646 00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:42,600 Speaker 8: good enough, and I don't want to hear about good 647 00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:46,240 Speaker 8: I love dominance, and dominance involves Michael Parks. 648 00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:49,120 Speaker 5: I completely agree, and I only say that this let 649 00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:52,520 Speaker 5: me preference all this. The deal's going to get done. Okay, 650 00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:55,800 Speaker 5: people listening, I wonder what cameraon the deal's going to 651 00:28:55,840 --> 00:29:00,480 Speaker 5: get done. I say that deal has to get Might 652 00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:02,960 Speaker 5: it be the team that you foresee yourself being? So 653 00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:05,760 Speaker 5: I'm saying all that, But in this game of cat 654 00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:09,200 Speaker 5: and mouse, in battleship and back and forth, whatever the 655 00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:15,840 Speaker 5: game you want to say, leverage, leverage exactly. Leverage matters, right, 656 00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:18,800 Speaker 5: And it's it's a ping pong game, back and forth, right, 657 00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:22,640 Speaker 5: it's Forrest Gump sometimes back and forth. And if these 658 00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:24,680 Speaker 5: guys have a bad showing a little bit of the 659 00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:26,719 Speaker 5: leverage goes to Micah if they have a if they 660 00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:28,320 Speaker 5: have I mean, if they if they have a bad showing, 661 00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:30,560 Speaker 5: the leverage goes to Mica if it if they have 662 00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:33,720 Speaker 5: a great showing, that slides back over to ownership because 663 00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:35,480 Speaker 5: they're like, yep, see, we can still get things done. 664 00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:38,400 Speaker 1: It's just it's all position by smith. 665 00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:39,320 Speaker 3: But it's all. 666 00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:42,040 Speaker 4: Positioning, right, And if we all just get along negotiating. 667 00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:43,320 Speaker 3: How many people out there bought a house? 668 00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:46,680 Speaker 1: Like it's back and forth, gentlemen over here, he bought 669 00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:48,360 Speaker 1: a car recently? Right, bought a car? 670 00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:49,960 Speaker 5: Like there's a little bit of negotiating and it goes 671 00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:51,960 Speaker 5: back and forth like I can't do this, Okay, let 672 00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:53,560 Speaker 5: me go talk to my manager and then they come 673 00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:56,440 Speaker 5: back with some other Oh here's my offer. I don't 674 00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:59,600 Speaker 5: really know, but it's literally that just on a much 675 00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:00,320 Speaker 5: higher to go. 676 00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:04,479 Speaker 8: We've seen these deals get done, especially in the couples 677 00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:08,160 Speaker 8: organization like that. All it takes is one phone call, 678 00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:10,200 Speaker 8: the right phone call between the right two or three 679 00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:12,960 Speaker 8: people and in this instance, the right it two or 680 00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:14,000 Speaker 8: three people involved. 681 00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:16,240 Speaker 1: Jerry Jones, Stephen Jones. 682 00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:18,480 Speaker 5: And David Mulligan that there you go and the number 683 00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:21,600 Speaker 5: am I would imagine that the number is set right, 684 00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:25,280 Speaker 5: the annual you know, saying revenue that he's gonna be 685 00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:28,560 Speaker 5: bringing in, the annual cap number whatever that is, is set. 686 00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:31,640 Speaker 5: I would imagine forty one, right imagine. I would imagine 687 00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:34,040 Speaker 5: that's it, right like, so there's not a lot that 688 00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:35,760 Speaker 5: has to go into it. So this deal can get 689 00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:38,680 Speaker 5: done literally in minutes, I would imagine, yr, it just 690 00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:41,960 Speaker 5: comes down to years at that point, years and guaranteed guaranteed. 691 00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:43,600 Speaker 5: Y'all want to do a four year, don't want to 692 00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:44,920 Speaker 5: do a five year. I'm sure he wants to do 693 00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:46,520 Speaker 5: a four year. I'm sure the organization wants to do 694 00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:48,320 Speaker 5: a five year, right, So you'll are you back and 695 00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:50,080 Speaker 5: forth on that, and then it comes down to, okay, 696 00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:52,680 Speaker 5: how much guaranteed money? Well, let's look at our roster 697 00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:55,080 Speaker 5: when after we face the rams and see where what 698 00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:56,400 Speaker 5: holes do we still need to feel? 699 00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:58,280 Speaker 1: Are there guys that we need to go get and 700 00:30:58,320 --> 00:30:59,800 Speaker 1: if so, we need a position. 701 00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:03,040 Speaker 5: This this deal to allow for us to have space 702 00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:06,400 Speaker 5: to go acquire and fill those holes. So that's literally 703 00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:08,920 Speaker 5: logistically all that's really out there. People saw is as 704 00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:11,400 Speaker 5: scared as people are, right, now is going to get done. 705 00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:13,280 Speaker 5: It's not going to take much for it to get done. 706 00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:15,400 Speaker 5: But what you're going to hear is a lot of posturing, 707 00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:16,720 Speaker 5: a lot of positioning, and. 708 00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:17,920 Speaker 1: You just have the weather to storm. 709 00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:19,840 Speaker 3: So would you call that a hollow request? 710 00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:20,400 Speaker 1: Hollow? 711 00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:22,440 Speaker 3: Would you call it hollow across the board? 712 00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:22,800 Speaker 1: Yes? 713 00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:28,000 Speaker 2: On MICA's side, Yeah, just because it just impressed, I 714 00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:30,080 Speaker 2: don't think I don't think it's because I think there's 715 00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:31,480 Speaker 2: legitimate frustration. 716 00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:35,680 Speaker 1: In regards to the frustration that thanks right now, all 717 00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:36,440 Speaker 1: of that is valid. 718 00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:39,160 Speaker 8: The actually is last sit and Michael Parsons is fit 719 00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:42,280 Speaker 8: up with how the process has gone or not going to. 720 00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:45,080 Speaker 2: And that if there's any frustration on fans side, that's 721 00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:47,760 Speaker 2: how it should be frustrated. The way that the process 722 00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:50,840 Speaker 2: has drug out again, that's where there should be a problem, 723 00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:53,520 Speaker 2: because the money has done nothing but go up from 724 00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:55,640 Speaker 2: the point where they were talking in March and that 725 00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:59,680 Speaker 2: deal was on the table from from Jerry Jones's account, 726 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:02,000 Speaker 2: in the way that Micah has taken it off of 727 00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:04,760 Speaker 2: the table, whether that's true or not, from that point 728 00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:07,840 Speaker 2: until here as we sit in August, the money has 729 00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:10,360 Speaker 2: done nothing but go up. So if you're the team. 730 00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:12,240 Speaker 2: I don't know what the deal was in March. I 731 00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:14,160 Speaker 2: can't tell you what the numbers were in March. But 732 00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:17,000 Speaker 2: they're gonna sit there and I'm guaranteeing or not guaranteeing. 733 00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:19,800 Speaker 2: But I would be inclined to think that number is 734 00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:22,000 Speaker 2: not as high as it is now. But why not 735 00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:24,040 Speaker 2: try and get it done then, as opposed to wait 736 00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:24,560 Speaker 2: till this point. 737 00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:27,640 Speaker 9: The riady has been on the wall since before Zach Martin, 738 00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:30,240 Speaker 9: long before this. But look look at just last year 739 00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:32,320 Speaker 9: with CD Lambs. Yeah, when they got the deal done. 740 00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:35,760 Speaker 9: Before they were getting the deal done, they said, they're 741 00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:38,840 Speaker 9: not on our timetable, We're on theirs. That's just how 742 00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:41,200 Speaker 9: it works, man. I wish it was done back in 743 00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:43,280 Speaker 9: the off season when we were talking about this. They've 744 00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:46,240 Speaker 9: drug it out this long and arguablyieve at this point. 745 00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:48,880 Speaker 9: Is it a strategy that they want to see where 746 00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:50,400 Speaker 9: the other top edge rushers get paid? 747 00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:53,440 Speaker 3: That be a bad strategy, I mean, but is it? 748 00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:53,760 Speaker 1: Does it? 749 00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:58,160 Speaker 9: I guess give them the sit back to recalibrate the 750 00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:01,600 Speaker 9: value of the edge at that and giving that the 751 00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:02,680 Speaker 9: edge that piece of the pie. 752 00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:05,080 Speaker 4: I have no idea. It seems like it's just going up. 753 00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:07,640 Speaker 9: If they wanted to wait till next year or the 754 00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:09,560 Speaker 9: year after to get a deal done. Not that I 755 00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:12,040 Speaker 9: want that to happen, but they're not on our timetable. 756 00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:12,240 Speaker 1: Man. 757 00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:13,880 Speaker 4: As much as I wish they were, they are not. 758 00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:17,160 Speaker 8: And for those that are, for those that are pretending 759 00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:19,760 Speaker 8: that just because a player is a first round draft 760 00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:23,040 Speaker 8: pick that that instantly replaces the talent that's already proven, 761 00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:25,120 Speaker 8: I will remind. 762 00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:26,560 Speaker 1: You of Taco Charlton. Now let's move on. 763 00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:31,320 Speaker 3: What what what does talk Taco Charlton have to do 764 00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:33,040 Speaker 3: with that first round pick? 765 00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:37,400 Speaker 8: So they're saying like, because he's maybe Work's first round pick, 766 00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:38,160 Speaker 8: can immediately come in. 767 00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:39,560 Speaker 3: I was thinking contract talks. 768 00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:42,320 Speaker 8: And you went to the draft and because if you 769 00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:44,360 Speaker 8: were to, I saw someone in the comments say, oh, 770 00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:47,000 Speaker 8: just treat them and get a first round pick, and. 771 00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:50,000 Speaker 1: Doesn't. 772 00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:52,360 Speaker 2: As much as I love the Draft show and I 773 00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:54,960 Speaker 2: love having draft picks, we didn't even think Mica would 774 00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:55,560 Speaker 2: turn into this. 775 00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:58,760 Speaker 3: We really didn't. I mean, okay, Isaiah thought and knew 776 00:33:58,840 --> 00:33:59,600 Speaker 3: and always does. 777 00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:07,680 Speaker 2: Sorry, But from a general consensus, people were not happy 778 00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:10,799 Speaker 2: with the Parsons pick because they were thinking, oh, another 779 00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:13,120 Speaker 2: ed rusher in the first round, Let's see what happens. 780 00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:14,240 Speaker 3: That went away real quick. 781 00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:16,520 Speaker 2: Yes, And of course he ended up having an incredible 782 00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:19,040 Speaker 2: camp in twenty one and then he's turned into and all. 783 00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:24,319 Speaker 8: Doesn't want to what is the relationship is in a 784 00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:27,040 Speaker 8: bad spot, but it's still a long term relationship. You know, 785 00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:29,279 Speaker 8: the same thing happens in every mix, the boyfriend or 786 00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:30,760 Speaker 8: girl marriage. 787 00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:32,320 Speaker 1: I'm not taking this anymore. 788 00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:36,359 Speaker 8: The episode before I walk out episode when he told 789 00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:41,239 Speaker 8: you the step and she went to, I'm sorry. 790 00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:42,439 Speaker 2: All right, I want to take our second break because 791 00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:44,360 Speaker 2: I'm gonna leave plenty of time here in this, uh, 792 00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:45,400 Speaker 2: this final segment. 793 00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:47,120 Speaker 3: Would you guys, I'm gonna give you guys a choice. 794 00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:47,759 Speaker 3: What about this? 795 00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:51,560 Speaker 2: Would you rather do a rookie progress report? Or would 796 00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:53,640 Speaker 2: you rather have three players to watch going into a 797 00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:54,080 Speaker 2: big week? 798 00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:57,120 Speaker 3: Here players rookie Okay, so. 799 00:34:57,440 --> 00:35:00,000 Speaker 2: One, let's save that one for before they get big 800 00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:02,080 Speaker 2: before the game on Thursday. 801 00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:04,879 Speaker 3: We'll do that, all right. 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I'm 849 00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:38,800 Speaker 7: expecting a good crowd today. 850 00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:40,840 Speaker 2: When we were driving up there were there were cars 851 00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:45,400 Speaker 2: already lined up on Ventura B. There were a lot 852 00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:46,640 Speaker 2: of them today, So I think it will be a 853 00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:48,960 Speaker 2: good crowd today. Tomorrow is going to be a madhouse. 854 00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:52,120 Speaker 2: Tomorrow is going to be awesome. I cannot wait for 855 00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:55,960 Speaker 2: tomorrow's practice. It's always simply electric. And here's a good 856 00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:58,239 Speaker 2: thing for us on Talking Cowboys is we get to 857 00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:00,359 Speaker 2: go today and then we get to go right after that. 858 00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:02,839 Speaker 3: On Wednesday, so we get to break it down for it. 859 00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:05,560 Speaker 2: Wednesday is gonna be a big show of of what 860 00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:08,160 Speaker 2: happened in the joint practice. Who is great, what looked 861 00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:11,040 Speaker 2: looked bad, what looked good, what kind of yeah? 862 00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:11,799 Speaker 3: Who got in a fight? 863 00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:14,680 Speaker 2: As Chris Beam alludes to the camera, We'll get into 864 00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:16,279 Speaker 2: all of that at some point in time. 865 00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:18,640 Speaker 1: It's gonna be. 866 00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:21,000 Speaker 9: It's gonna be our media team versus their media team. 867 00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:22,919 Speaker 9: Beam is gonna start throwing punches, Dude. 868 00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:25,000 Speaker 3: They don't want the smoke, they don't want the beams. 869 00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:28,480 Speaker 3: We get the numbers and we'll land more punches. 870 00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:39,640 Speaker 2: It just looks like, yeah, flutters down here, Yeah, all right, Josh, 871 00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:43,000 Speaker 2: I'm gonna let you start rookie progress report. 872 00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:44,759 Speaker 3: All right, I'm gonna go in order. 873 00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:48,319 Speaker 2: I'm gonna I wanna a grade A through F, and 874 00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:50,520 Speaker 2: I want a quick synopsis of why you give them 875 00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:52,799 Speaker 2: that grade. Let's start and go in order. First round 876 00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:54,719 Speaker 2: pick Tyler Booker at offensive guard. 877 00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:59,000 Speaker 9: I'm giving him a solid B, solid B, similar to 878 00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:02,480 Speaker 9: B B last. I think he didn't wow to start 879 00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:05,759 Speaker 9: the training camp. I don't think he's wowed necessarily here. 880 00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:09,040 Speaker 9: He's been solid. He's had some really great reps and 881 00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:13,040 Speaker 9: some really like not questionable. He's had some if he days, 882 00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:15,440 Speaker 9: you know, good days, bad days, but I imagine it 883 00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:17,319 Speaker 9: comes together throughout the season. I think you can rely 884 00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:19,399 Speaker 9: on a guy like this with that much confidence. At 885 00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:22,160 Speaker 9: this point, Patrick, I'm given Taylor Booker B plus. 886 00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:25,440 Speaker 8: Not only has he been solid, but there are certain 887 00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:28,160 Speaker 8: things about his game that impresses me even more over 888 00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:30,880 Speaker 8: what I've saw, what I've seen from his Alabama tape. 889 00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:33,640 Speaker 8: He is, in fact, or has the potential to be 890 00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:36,280 Speaker 8: a road grader at the NFL level. When it comes 891 00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:38,719 Speaker 8: to those screenplays, I know one of the knocks, would 892 00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:41,399 Speaker 8: you know to those who didn't scout him, correctly said, oh, well, 893 00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:43,719 Speaker 8: he can't really move. H He's got motion on those 894 00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:46,040 Speaker 8: screenplays and he's he's often. 895 00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:49,280 Speaker 2: At six throwout draft scouts out there like that, because 896 00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:51,320 Speaker 2: that was one of my knocks too, is he didn't 897 00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:52,280 Speaker 2: move very well. 898 00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:55,399 Speaker 3: That's in college, but they didn't let him move very well. 899 00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:56,879 Speaker 3: That they didn't put it on tape. 900 00:39:57,040 --> 00:39:57,359 Speaker 1: That's good. 901 00:39:57,440 --> 00:40:00,000 Speaker 3: Context's keep that in mind. 902 00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:02,200 Speaker 8: But to be fair, I was more so aimin at 903 00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:05,680 Speaker 8: the X scouts, not those who actually put the work in. 904 00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:06,080 Speaker 3: Thank you. 905 00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:08,440 Speaker 8: Okay, let me differentiate, but I'm going to give him 906 00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:10,480 Speaker 8: a B plus. In the run game, he looks like 907 00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:13,239 Speaker 8: he has the potential to be exceptional. In past pro 908 00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:16,840 Speaker 8: He's lost some reps, as every player has across that 909 00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:20,520 Speaker 8: offensive line at some point, including Tyler Smith. Okay, but 910 00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:23,359 Speaker 8: what I've seen more often than not is I've seen 911 00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:25,680 Speaker 8: him win against guys like Osa. I've seen him win 912 00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:29,240 Speaker 8: against Solomon Thomas. So I'm giving him a B plus. 913 00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:31,160 Speaker 8: I think there's room to grow. But man, he's off 914 00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:32,160 Speaker 8: to a really good start. 915 00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:35,640 Speaker 5: Let's start from what I've seen, yep, because I'm just 916 00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:37,200 Speaker 5: now getting to the point where I'm really starting to 917 00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:40,680 Speaker 5: hone in on the guys in the line. I'm I'm 918 00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:43,520 Speaker 5: torn between the B minus and a C plus, and 919 00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:46,759 Speaker 5: the reason being, I have very high standards when it 920 00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:50,319 Speaker 5: comes to first round offensive lineman, and from what I've 921 00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:52,680 Speaker 5: seen from him, I haven't seen that. 922 00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:57,200 Speaker 1: What he was saying on the podcast or whoever's podcast he. 923 00:40:57,200 --> 00:40:59,560 Speaker 3: Was on the death. 924 00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:05,520 Speaker 5: Maybe if I hadn't heard about all that, maybe I 925 00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:06,840 Speaker 5: would have a little bit higher grade. 926 00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:10,440 Speaker 1: But when you say all that, yeah, we will. I 927 00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:11,680 Speaker 1: want to see you. 928 00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:14,239 Speaker 5: Driving dudes through the ground, right Like I just saw 929 00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:16,760 Speaker 5: a Superman every time he hit the ground, concrete busted. 930 00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:19,160 Speaker 5: I want to see guys going through the ground. I 931 00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:22,279 Speaker 5: want to see him using his arms. I've seen him 932 00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:24,839 Speaker 5: use a lot of his pads to block really, so 933 00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:27,520 Speaker 5: he's letting guys into his chest. That's not going to 934 00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:30,279 Speaker 5: work in this league. And I know we're kind of 935 00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:33,160 Speaker 5: eighty seventy five eighty percent of it in practice in 936 00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:35,239 Speaker 5: terms of how hard the lineman can actually go at 937 00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:37,000 Speaker 5: each other, because nobody wants to hit the ground and. 938 00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:39,799 Speaker 2: It's not necessarily pad level. That's his problem. He's still no, no, 939 00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:42,720 Speaker 2: it's just not high. But it's the way that he's 940 00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:46,160 Speaker 2: blocking us. He's like from what I've seen. Again, I'm 941 00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:48,400 Speaker 2: not watching all his reps. It's alligator. 942 00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:50,279 Speaker 5: I've seen a lot of alligator, and you can't have 943 00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:51,560 Speaker 5: that at that position. 944 00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:53,479 Speaker 1: You would get thrown out the club no white tea's. 945 00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:55,880 Speaker 5: So you know, we will get a better sense of 946 00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:58,040 Speaker 5: it tomorrow because it won't be eighty percent. Sorry, I mean, 947 00:41:58,080 --> 00:41:59,279 Speaker 5: even though you don't want to hit the ground, it's 948 00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:01,080 Speaker 5: gonna be a hundred. So you'll know exactly where you 949 00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:01,880 Speaker 5: stand with him tomorrow. 950 00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:04,399 Speaker 2: I'll give him a bee there too, do the same thing. 951 00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:08,200 Speaker 2: He's been solid, hasn't done anything that's concerned me across 952 00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:09,960 Speaker 2: the board, but he also hasn't done anything the wow 953 00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:12,400 Speaker 2: me yet. We haven't seen that wow rep where he's 954 00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:14,480 Speaker 2: throwing people out of the club, no white teas, and 955 00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:17,160 Speaker 2: he's out of throwing around different defensive linemens. 956 00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:20,880 Speaker 3: So we'll kind of stick there with that B grade. 957 00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:23,560 Speaker 3: Moving in the Donovan Azeraki, this should. 958 00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:25,399 Speaker 5: Be a pretty easy one going in Isaiah. I'm going 959 00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:28,799 Speaker 5: with the A yeah. I just think that he has won. 960 00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:31,520 Speaker 5: Only reason why he's not an A plus is because 961 00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:34,879 Speaker 5: I haven't seen the plethora of moves yet. I've seen 962 00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:36,880 Speaker 5: him win with a yeah. I've seen him move with 963 00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:39,319 Speaker 5: a win with a couple of different variations, but not 964 00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:41,680 Speaker 5: I don't think that he has a whole bag of 965 00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:43,000 Speaker 5: moves yet, and that'll come right. 966 00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:43,959 Speaker 1: He's a young gun. 967 00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:46,560 Speaker 5: But what he does have in his bag he's been 968 00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:48,759 Speaker 5: winning with, and that a speed as quickness as his 969 00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:52,280 Speaker 5: acceleration off the boss, timing the first step, his ability 970 00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:55,279 Speaker 5: to dip, he's a problem. I'm looking forward to him 971 00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:58,799 Speaker 5: being in that that wave of defensive lineman that can 972 00:42:58,800 --> 00:42:59,880 Speaker 5: really get out through the quarterback. 973 00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:04,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, everything Isaiah said, it's an A for me. With Zraku, 974 00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:05,319 Speaker 1: it's an A. 975 00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:08,239 Speaker 8: Yes, he still has some work to do, but again, 976 00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:11,960 Speaker 8: coming out of entering his first NFL training camp, having 977 00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:15,319 Speaker 8: the arsenal that he has, being the technician that he is, 978 00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:19,439 Speaker 8: it is not often that you see that with a guy, 979 00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:20,560 Speaker 8: also a guy who's not. 980 00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:22,120 Speaker 1: Coming from a power program. Right. 981 00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:24,160 Speaker 8: So, yeah, he led the nation in sex, but that 982 00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:25,920 Speaker 8: was one of the knocks that some people had to 983 00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:28,400 Speaker 8: him as oh, well he's coming out of a Boston college. 984 00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:31,040 Speaker 1: It's translating against NFL players. 985 00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:33,440 Speaker 8: So I'm giving Donovan Ezrakud a can't wait to see 986 00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:34,920 Speaker 8: what this young man can do going forward. 987 00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:37,880 Speaker 9: Like an Emma Stone movie. It's an easy a. I 988 00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:41,759 Speaker 9: did a Patrick Walker just then. No, Absolutely, he's a guy. 989 00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:45,319 Speaker 9: He's that first step is exactly what you think it is. 990 00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:49,160 Speaker 9: It's exactly what you're hearing about. If you're watching on Twitter, 991 00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:51,920 Speaker 9: if you're looking at camp captures on Dallas Cowboys dot com, 992 00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:55,879 Speaker 9: it is an article. It is just impressive, simply, and 993 00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:57,879 Speaker 9: he looks like a first round pick. He doesn't look 994 00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:00,680 Speaker 9: like a second round pick. It's insane to see. How 995 00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:04,000 Speaker 9: just is that what I'm looking for? 996 00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:07,120 Speaker 3: He is just already there. He's already arrived. 997 00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:12,280 Speaker 9: He's arrived a verified star at this point in camp. 998 00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:14,040 Speaker 4: Would love to see a translate on the field. 999 00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:18,759 Speaker 2: We'll skip over Savonne Rebel since he's heard and inactive. 1000 00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:22,640 Speaker 3: Let's go. Let's go straight to Jaden Blue Texas. 1001 00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:25,520 Speaker 4: Josh, I'll let you start, all right, I think so 1002 00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:27,000 Speaker 4: far you got to say B plus. 1003 00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:28,960 Speaker 9: I mean, he's getting reps with the ones. You know, 1004 00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:30,680 Speaker 9: you'll love to see that. You love to see a 1005 00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:33,279 Speaker 9: guy that's able to dual threat. 1006 00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:33,680 Speaker 4: At running back. 1007 00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:37,400 Speaker 9: He's catching passes one handed at that He's going to 1008 00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:39,560 Speaker 9: be a threat in many ways. And when we talked 1009 00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:42,239 Speaker 9: about like a you know, potential running back lineup. He 1010 00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:45,080 Speaker 9: was like my third down guy. I think you're gonna 1011 00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:46,440 Speaker 9: see him a lot this season. 1012 00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:48,560 Speaker 4: I really do. But I don't want to see him 1013 00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:50,719 Speaker 4: come off the field in the preseason. I really don't. 1014 00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:53,239 Speaker 8: I think it's for me right now. It's a see 1015 00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:58,759 Speaker 8: with a lot of potential. A c first several practices, 1016 00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:01,000 Speaker 8: which include unpadded pre This is and to be fair 1017 00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:03,600 Speaker 8: to Jay and Blue, you can't really tell a lot 1018 00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:06,120 Speaker 8: in unpadded practices from the running back position. But even 1019 00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:08,360 Speaker 8: when paddit practice is fired up, it was a It 1020 00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:10,839 Speaker 8: was a lot of Javonte Williams and Miles Sanders getting 1021 00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:13,360 Speaker 8: those first team reps, and then Cavante Turpin would step 1022 00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:15,239 Speaker 8: in get those handoffs, and then they kind of mixed 1023 00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:17,720 Speaker 8: in Jay and Blue with Phil Malfa and Hunter Lifkey 1024 00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:20,719 Speaker 8: from there. So to Josh's point, yes, we are now 1025 00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:23,520 Speaker 8: seeing Jayden Blue in the first team and it's exciting 1026 00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:26,600 Speaker 8: to see. But it's also because two of your running 1027 00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:28,719 Speaker 8: backs are injured. So that makes me wonder, if Deuce 1028 00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:32,040 Speaker 8: Vaughan and Miles Sanders are not both injured, is Jay 1029 00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:34,279 Speaker 8: and Blue still getting those first team reps? I don't know, 1030 00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:39,080 Speaker 8: maybe maybe not, but the flashes he's he's delivering in 1031 00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:42,600 Speaker 8: the opportunities that he's being given. More so as these 1032 00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:46,120 Speaker 8: days progress, that's what has him on the upward trajectory. 1033 00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:48,000 Speaker 8: So I believe he can finish this camp on an 1034 00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:51,000 Speaker 8: A for me. But right now he's split in the difference. 1035 00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:52,879 Speaker 8: He's he's definitely on the upswing right. 1036 00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:54,160 Speaker 1: Now though, B plus for me. 1037 00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:56,600 Speaker 5: Man, I think he's he's shown the best vision out 1038 00:45:56,600 --> 00:45:58,000 Speaker 5: of all the running backs to date. 1039 00:45:58,120 --> 00:46:00,960 Speaker 1: For me, I know everybody want to talk about his speed. 1040 00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:03,040 Speaker 5: I don't even want to get to a speed yet 1041 00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:05,640 Speaker 5: when he gets out, you know, for those first two levels, 1042 00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:08,960 Speaker 5: he's a he's a problem obviously, but his vision has 1043 00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:11,359 Speaker 5: been what has impressed me, and as any running back, 1044 00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:13,880 Speaker 5: whether you're a power back or your scat back or 1045 00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:15,520 Speaker 5: your speed whatever kind of back you want to be, 1046 00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:16,800 Speaker 5: vision is essential. 1047 00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:19,640 Speaker 1: His patients and vision have been the best to me 1048 00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:21,000 Speaker 1: out of that at that room, I. 1049 00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:24,840 Speaker 3: Blue you're trying to start that, aren't you? 1050 00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:24,880 Speaker 6: No? 1051 00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:29,400 Speaker 2: The uh I put an article on Dallas Cowboys dot 1052 00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:31,799 Speaker 2: Com yesterday High five and it was five players with 1053 00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:34,880 Speaker 2: the biggest opportunity going into a big week, and he 1054 00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:36,560 Speaker 2: was on the list because he has a chance if 1055 00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:39,759 Speaker 2: he breaks a run. Yep, either at tomorrow or going 1056 00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:42,560 Speaker 2: into Saturday's game. You break a big run, you have 1057 00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:44,960 Speaker 2: that speed, you have that vision, you put up good numbers. 1058 00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:46,680 Speaker 3: All of a sudden, this wider's early. 1059 00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:49,680 Speaker 2: Excuse me, this running back competition turns from the veterans 1060 00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:52,160 Speaker 2: to oh, look at this rookie who's got. 1061 00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:57,319 Speaker 1: Some fifty three. He's getting closer preseason start. 1062 00:46:57,400 --> 00:46:59,400 Speaker 5: The thing is, people, whenever you have speed, I know 1063 00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:02,000 Speaker 5: we have blow three whenever we else, people kind of 1064 00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:03,640 Speaker 5: rely on that, and right they trying to get outside 1065 00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:04,040 Speaker 5: a lot of. 1066 00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:06,120 Speaker 3: Times he's not doing No, he's in between the tackles 1067 00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:06,800 Speaker 3: very like so is. 1068 00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:08,560 Speaker 5: He's showing a lot of maturity in terms of his 1069 00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:09,920 Speaker 5: ability and his responsibilities. 1070 00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:12,920 Speaker 2: That's a running back, all right, rapid fire, no description. 1071 00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:16,720 Speaker 2: Just give me a grade here, Shamar James Patrick. 1072 00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:17,520 Speaker 1: Uh C. 1073 00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:21,200 Speaker 8: I'm seeing him hold on, I'm seeing him start to 1074 00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:23,640 Speaker 8: come on. I'm seeing him start to come on now 1075 00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:27,520 Speaker 8: toward the it's not entirely said. 1076 00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:31,840 Speaker 3: I said, no description. We got a rapid fire through this. 1077 00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:34,120 Speaker 3: But but finish your thought first. 1078 00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:35,919 Speaker 1: He's on the upswing, on the swing. 1079 00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:36,400 Speaker 3: I get it. 1080 00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:39,239 Speaker 4: B minus. I think mainly because the pads have just 1081 00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:39,560 Speaker 4: come on. 1082 00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:42,960 Speaker 3: Okay, B plus, B plus I'm there, B plus. I 1083 00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:43,719 Speaker 3: think he's looked good. 1084 00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:45,120 Speaker 4: He doesn't need to come off the field though. 1085 00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:50,560 Speaker 2: Johnny Cornelius offensive line out of Oregon Johnny Cornelius B. 1086 00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:51,719 Speaker 1: I'm pushing him. 1087 00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:54,800 Speaker 4: I haven't watched so much B minus C minus. 1088 00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:57,840 Speaker 3: Okay, C minus is where I was thinking. J Toya 1089 00:47:58,280 --> 00:47:58,920 Speaker 3: U C l A. 1090 00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:01,120 Speaker 1: Patrick B plus. I need to see him on the 1091 00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:03,640 Speaker 1: first team more often. Okay, but god, I like what 1092 00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:04,080 Speaker 1: I'm saying. 1093 00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:08,680 Speaker 4: See I'm gonna be B minus for me. 1094 00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:12,600 Speaker 3: Okay, uh, film offa Clemson. 1095 00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:15,480 Speaker 1: C plus plus. 1096 00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:19,480 Speaker 8: Minus and not necessarily because of him. That's just he's 1097 00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:20,799 Speaker 8: not getting as many opportunities. 1098 00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:23,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, Tommy A. King Bisote, Maryland C. 1099 00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:27,160 Speaker 9: Minus C plus, I just haven't seen very much of them, 1100 00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:28,480 Speaker 9: to be honest with you, minus, I. 1101 00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:30,640 Speaker 3: Want to see more. I've seen more Ja Toya than 1102 00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:31,880 Speaker 3: I have. Agreed, Tommy A. 1103 00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:33,799 Speaker 2: King Bisote, I still want to see more from both 1104 00:48:33,800 --> 00:48:36,399 Speaker 2: guys across the board. Sorry, we had to blow through 1105 00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:38,319 Speaker 2: those last couple of ones to get through here. 1106 00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:40,799 Speaker 8: But Eagles fans in the check don't have a question. 1107 00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:42,160 Speaker 8: Who's the number one podcast. 1108 00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:44,560 Speaker 2: Well, that's why they're listening, you know, That's why they're 1109 00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:46,440 Speaker 2: That's why they're in the chat. All right, we'll be 1110 00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:49,960 Speaker 2: back on Wins, bringing him down the entire joint practice 1111 00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:52,759 Speaker 2: that does happen tomorrow. We'll have some extra training camp 1112 00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:55,120 Speaker 2: lives for you as well. 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